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Jon Atack: How Scientology’s methods of manipulation stay with you after you leave

Jon_AtackJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and for more than a year on Saturdays he helped us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet. He was kind enough to send us a new post.

We’re fortunate to have two pieces this week from you, Jon. On Thursday, you told us about L. Ron Hubbard’s theory that life was a game, with him controlling the pieces. Today, you’re talking again about leaving Scientology and recovering from it. Help us understand why it is ex-Scientologists have a hard time leaving the church behind.

JON: To keep the follower trapped in the mindset of the group, it is necessary to erect fences, so that they will not stray. In most groups these fences melt away once the rituals of the group are abandoned. The Krishna stops chanting all day long. The TMer stops repeating the “secret” demonic name, ceaselessly. Away from the rallies and the group euphoria, people come down from the high and integrate back into reality and the mundane. Not so with Scientologists. Scientology is self-reinforcing. We keep on “confronting” with our TRs “in,” and we try to inflict the petty, endless rules of L. Ron Hubbard on all who are around. Until we don’t, which usually takes some intervention on the part of reality (or from me and others of my independently-minded ilk).

Hubbard devised a set of tricks that reinforce the beliefs he so carefully implanted into us. Krishnas are made phobic of the world with talk of “deadly demons.” Moonies are taught that lapsed members are devils, and that your family is destined to destruction if you abandon belief in the True Messiah. Hubbard replaced these traditional views by borrowing from psychiatry. He grabbed hold of Hervey Cleckley’s work — including the psychiatric designation “anti-social personality disorder” — and induced phobia about “Suppressive People.” These people are so toxic that your life will collapse in ruins if you even talk to them. And none of the tools of the Tech will save you. You will never be OT enough to overcome the SP. They will always leave you quivering.

My own response to sociopaths is skepticism and derision. I don’t feel in the least harmed by rudeness. I feel sorry for people who do not know how to communicate in a friendly and encouraging way. Their criticism does not reduce me to tears or self-doubt. But, then, I am now a grown up. Hubbard, on the other hand taught that evil lurks around every corner, and will consume you at a moment’s notice and in a single bite. The world outside the cult must be perceived as hopelessly dangerous, and the member reduced to childlike dependence. Such is the power of phobia induction.

As with all other mechanisms of control, this technique is found throughout society. Identification with nation — that bane of 19th century thinking — leads people to believe that communists or capitalists — or ‘ists’ of whatever variety — are intent on destroying their world. This is convenient for the masters of war who rule us, but, actually, most of us are only intent on putting food on the table, spending time at the game, watching TV, catching a movie or playing with our kids. Hubbard focused this phobic induction and ringed it round with danger signs. That little fish in the brackish water, which he told us about in Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, has become thee and me — terrified that a predator lurks in the shadows.

Disgust is a significant element of manipulation. The Nazis taught Germany that Jews and Romanies were “fleas” or “rats” — vermin to be casually exterminated. It is almost beyond belief that German doctors joined in the T4 Program and murdered 270,000 of their own patients, at the behest of the Party. But they did. Indeed, among the professions, medical doctors were the most ardent Nazis, with 45 percent of them joining the Party.

Hubbard’s vermin were squirrels. Hubbard also compared “squirrels” to lice: “There’s nothing personal in having squirrels. Even heroes can have lice.” (HCOB Signs of Success). Squirrels are to be “ruined utterly,” according to his 1955 dictum, in The Scientologist. By the 60s, he was demanding that defectors be murdered — using R2-45 — on the front page of The Auditor. The Fair Game law has been an essential (if no longer spoken) part of the “scripture” since 1965. In-house jokes about the “psychs” abound in his lectures.

This last is a fascinating piece of phobia induction. “Psychs” are not only psychiatrists — whose practice is with the mentally unwell — but also psychologists, who study all areas of the mind, and psychotherapists, who try to help those who are struggling. In Hubbard’s “reality,” all “psychs” are in conspiracy to dominate the universe, using scent to “restimulate” us all. If you can ever find any two practitioners in these fields who agree about anything, let me know. So much for the grand “conspiracy.”

While most Scientologists, thankfully, do not need psychiatric intervention — even though a summary of their beliefs will generally lead to a diagnosis of “paranoid delusion” — they are also immunized against the sensible and experimentally demonstrated theories of psychology and against any therapeutic assistance, after cult involvement. This cuts us off from any help, out in the real world. Sadly, most therapists have no idea where to begin in undoing this tangle.

A chap once told me that you know someone has left the cult if they’ll smoke a joint with you. But, you’ll have to forgive me, I don’t smoke. You actually know that you are on the road to recovery when you dare to read a book about the brain. I had the good fortune to share my recovery with a very clever chap named Mitch Beedie, who revelled in breaking the taboos. I started it, by deciding to talk to the SPs. I found that Ron Hopkins, Jay Hurwitz, and Cyril Vosper, far from being slavering monsters from the pit of Hell, were actually considerate and compassionate people (Captain Bill was a little odd, however, but very well meaning).

Mitch grabbed a copy of Oliver Sacks’ marvelous The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and passed it on to me. I realized that I was self-determined enough to read any book and make my own mind up. And there was no doubt that the afflictions described in Sacks’ book were linked to the destruction of specific areas of the brain, because the same damage causes the same affliction.

I learned about people who can only perceive the left side of their world (I had the pleasure of meeting a lady who recovered from this condition, only last week), or believe that their friends and relatives have been replaced by clones. In Korsakov’s syndrome, induced by vitamin B deficiency brought on by chronic alcoholism, sufferers can make no new memories, and spend a lifetime where everything before a certain day is lost to them. If you leave them for five minutes and re-enter the room, they won’t recognise you. They do recognise people from their former life, but cannot understand the years that have been added on since their memory failed. They are still 25, but their brother is now 60. This puzzles them, every time they see the brother.

Hubbard would have us believe that the brain is just a switching exchange between the “thetan” (satan, but with a lisp, as I insistently point out) and the body. Thetans carry a couple of ounces of “mental image pictures” around with them, from life to life. And that, along with a big helping of body satans, is all there is. He had no cures for the many brain afflictions and aphasias, other than sending the sufferer to Coventry until they snapped out of it, but he had only scorn for anyone who thought the brain a wonderful and vital organ, and the most marvelous development in all of evolution. Hubbard was kind of like the flatworlders, who refuse to believe that anyone could ever sail around the world.

These are all fear inductions. Ways of fencing you in, so that you won’t deign to think, because, after all, thought is a low tone activity. Much lower than following Ron’s commands. You don’t have to smoke dope to leave Scientology, or take up any of the other behaviors generally associated with college, but there is a tremendous liberation in making up your own mind. I recommend it, heartily. I also highly recommend V.S. Ramachandran’s wonderful Phantoms in the Brain, for any who suddenly feel brave enough to confront the reality of the brain.


Scientology is going to save Flint!

The UAW couldn’t do it. Michael Moore couldn’t do it. But L. Ron Hubbard and his little booklet of great original thought, with gems such as “Try Not to Do Things To Others That You Would Not Like Them To Do To You,” could be the answer to Flint, Michigan’s troubles!

Just the other day we told you about the background to Hubbard’s pamphlet, The Way to Happiness, born during a time when Scientology needed some decent PR after years of FBI raids and prosecutions, and how ever since the church has handed them out by the truckload as if they were the solution to mankind’s ills.

Well, Flint, good luck with that.


Posted by Tony Ortega on August 23, 2014 at 08:30

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  • DodoTheLaser
  • Baby

    Oh Fabulous..Thank you Jon! I love Jon days..( Thanks Tony)

    My mama told me one day when I was sent home from school with ” Bugs.” ( 1950s)

    ” It is Not a disgrace to get Lice..It’s only a disgrace to Keep them!” hahaha ..

    • joan nieman

      Well, Baby, your mother was very wise.

  • Sid

    It’s amazing to see Scientologists scatter in fear when an SP shows up. They scramble like rats in a suddenly lit barn. Most are unable to even look the SP in the eye. Some of this fear is of the SP but a lot of the fear in Scientology is of the church itself. In the back of their mind is the fear that if it is even perceived there is a connection with the SP (by looking at or coming within 3 feet of them) they will face the dreaded ethics handlings, sec checks, or even disconnection from their friends and family. In some ways I think the fear of what the church will do to them is almost greater than the fear of the SP.

    • Missionary Kid

      Exactly. The question to ask them is, “If the tech is so powerful, why am I still here? Can’t I just be postulated away?”

      • Sid

        MK, that’s an ‘Enemy Line’. I’m writing a KR.

        • Missionary Kid

          I’m still laughing. Good one.

          When I did my one stint demonstrating with Tory, it was amazing to see the sea org members scurrying away. It was as if I had some power to repel them. In their minds, they had granted me extraordinary powers. Theta Bara had a Guy Fawkes mask on, and they gave her a VERY wide berth.

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            SP Powers, activate!

            • Missionary Kid

              If I ever get back to Hollywood and demonstrate, I’m gonna use that one. With all the superstition, mythology, and power that $cientologists have granted SPs, it’d be worth it to see the expression on their faces.

              “SP Powers, activate!” Indeed.

            • Juicer77

              Have you started a “suggested signs at CO$ protests” list?

            • Missionary Kid

              Yeah, but it needs a lot of work.

            • Sid

              How about “Why are You Afraid of Us?”

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s an excellent one.

            • rom661

              How about “If You Can Clear the World Why Fear the World?

          • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

            When any protester says any “confidential” words, the two hottest “confidential” Scientology words are: 1) Xenu and 2) “body thetans” (you have to say the two word phrase to have maximum impact, and it’s good to understand what “body thetans” are, so when you say it, you sincerely know the impact of that two word phrase); you ARE impacting their belief system and it does cause them mental stress.

            Words Hubbard made part of their confidential “upper levels” materials, have impact back on them!


            Body Thetans

            these are like garlic to Vampires!

            • dchoiceisalwaysrs

              And one to carry back into the org and daily life with them. If remembered, would related to the 10s if not 100s of times it is done each day. “how is that thought stopping going?”

            • Kim O’Brien

              what kind of impact ?

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              It’s an excommunicatable offense to discuss or define “Xenu” in public, by an official Scientologist. Ex official Scientologists can do so, but not official Scientologists.

              Hubbard’s confidentiality rules make it out of bounds to say, simply: “Xenu is an ancient bad guy space leader who caused the famous Wall of Fire, also known as the 4th Dynamic Engram. Xenu caused the 4th Dynamic Engram. Xenu caused the intensive implanting that zillions of thetans got during the 4th Dynamic Engram. Those confused and traumatized and implanted thetans clustered, and today there are zillions of these thetans floating around earth, affixing themselves to every new human baby born today. In Scientology we deal with the negative effects of these hitchhiking clusters of thetans (we have a name, we call them “body thetans”, they affix to human bodies and leak mental bad ideas to a person). In Scientology we have OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 to deal with the body thetans, to get these all off of a person. Xenu is just the bad person who caused the big 4th Dynamic Engram that caused the body thetan problem that humans on earth suffer today. Some call it exorcism, in a sense it is, we are getting rid of unnecessary additional thetans that cling and cohabit people’s bodies! That’s our religion! We give spiritual therapy to people, and we let them deal with trauma in their past lives, and we help people get rid of their body thetans!”

              But the above would be an excommunicatable offense for a Scientologist in good standing to tell anyone. Hubbard’s rules make his words, “Xenu” and “body thetans” taboo, and excommunicatable, instead, to even say!

              That is the impact of saying “Xenu” and “body thetans” to any official Scientologist. The impact is their ingrained inability to explain publicly these words, like I did above.

              Were they to get over this Hubbard rule penalty, that’d be something.

              More so in the independent Scientology ex official Scientologist community, will you find some ex official Scientologists who will be somewhat candid about Xenu and body thetans, and explaining them simply.

            • Kim O’Brien

              so when reporters ask about Xenu to scientologists …and they all dismiss it ..that is why ? I wondered about that . Ann Archer’s response always pisses me off for some reason.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              Exactly correct. As a fun test, a reporter ought to ask this question to a Scientologist celebrity:

              “Is it true that Scientologists in good standing are not even allowed to say out loud and in public places where anyone can hear the word “Xenu?” ”


              “Why aren’t Scientologists even allowed to say the word Xenu in public? Is the word dangerous in some way to broad Scentology?”

              And more locally, any protester can ask any Scientologist a funnier version:

              “I bet you can’t say the word Xenu out loud!”

              and if they say it, watch they will ensure you are NOT recording them on video!

              Then ask them:

              “Is it true that all that Xenu did was cause the Wall of Fire? Did Xenu cause the 4th Dynamic Engram, is that what he did?”

              That last will freeze them up, and they will be obligated to change the subject!

              You can also insert “body thetans” in the question:

              “Is it true you are not allowed to publicly say or define the two word phrase “body thetans”? ”

              “Do OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 all deal with the 4th Dynamic Engram’s effects? Why can’t you simply explain “body thetans” and “Xenu” in the context of that tremendous engram?”

              This kind of informed questioning will cause the Scientologist some internal mental questioning!

            • joan nieman

              But, they will not question it. They just accept it in all it’s imaginary glory.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              The point of the questions is not to challenge the theory content. But just asking such questions points out that they are not allowed to talk about theory of what is behind the biggest engram in recent history in the universe, per Hubbard.

              The point is they will understand you are just pointing up their Hubbard created predicament of not being allowed to even say those two words!

            • “HOW DARE YOU !”

            • joan nieman

              Ann Archer clearly made herself look the fool when she said ” Do I look brain-washed to you”? Because, without a doubt, she did.

            • rom661

              Ann Archer evokes the same response in me. I have no real personal knowledge of her, but I’ve always assumed it was because I thought she was a total bitch. I was use an equally offensive male term if she was…. male.

            • rom661

              OK, slightly off topic question: When I was in there was OTIII and OTIIIX the latter of which I thought was the infamous wall of fire. Whatever happened to “X”?

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              I take “X” to mean the “X” at the end of OT IIIX, correct?

              OT 3, and OT 3X (defunct now) are both about body thetan removal.

              Bruce Hines explained the old OT IIIX in this answer in an earlier Bunker series Tony has done:

              “The other strange thing about Old OT 7 was the point at which one did it. It was not done after Old OT 6. It was done after OT 3. Go figure. Well there was some logic to it. The sequence went OT 3, Old OT 7, OT 3 Expanded, Old OT 4, Old OT 5, Old OT 6. The terminology was that if one had done Old OT 7, but not the higher OT levels, one was “OT 7 EP.” EP is the abbreviation for End Phenomena. If one then progressed up the levels and completed Old OT 6, one was deemed to be “Full OT 7.” It was at that point that many people had dead-ended before the release of NOTs. Hubbard’s idea was that after OT 3, the pre-OT would then be in shape to do Old OT 7, and then, with improved ability to project intention, on OT 3 Expanded (simply redoing the steps of OT 3) more body thetans could be located and blown. This was the first time the pre-OT had to go find more BTs after having attested to the fact that there were no more BTs. By the way, an attest in Scientology is a big deal. A “false attest” results in the automatic assignment of the ethics condition of Doubt (see Jeff Hawkins’ excellent account of these conditions).” – Bruce Hines

              from Underground Bunker,


            • rom661

              Yes re: the X. Thanks for the explanation.

            • Watch out Chuck, I don’t want you to catch Lumbosis or something worse.


            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              I’ve already caught Hubbard’s overitsa.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s gotta be worse than the clap, since it infects the mind.

            • rom661

              But does it leave fingernail marks on the wall in the bathroom? Just sayin’

            • Missionary Kid

              Once the clap is cured, it’s cured. Once one leaves $cientology, the effects are often long lasting and debilitating.

            • rom661

              Except for the engram, of course.

            • grundoon

              Scientologists inside the Chruch are never allowed to hear the words “Xenu” and “body thetans” until they get on to the OT3 level. Lower level Scientologists may just say truthfully that the words aren’t part of Scientology so far as they know. The words will alarm upper level Scientologists – OT3 and higher – only because saying them publicly is “out-security” and might screw up the progress of any lower level Scientologists who might chance to hear them before the prescribed time.

              That’s one reason the Chruch always tries to assign high-level OT’s to go out and handle picketers and “enemies,” while keeping lower-level Scientologists shut in behind closed curtains. The handlers have already purchased the secrets of the OT levels, and won’t be harmed if someone jokes about body thetans or plays the audio of Hubbard telling the OT3 story.

            • Very occasionally, when a few OT-Whaevers are grouped around a protester, furiously trying to postulate a hole in the ground to swallow up the protest, it’s fun to take out a coin and put it in an open upturned palm and invite them to float the coin (without physical agent – slapping the hand does not count…).

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              So true!

              It’s easy to have just have a dozen or more people individually protesting all talking Xenu story to everyone every which way. This overwhelms their crowd control OT volunteers who come try to contain the Xenu story telling protesters.

        • richelieu jr

          “Confront and Shatter’ has become “Runaway and Scatter (fr fearof being shattered)”

    • John P.

      An excellent point. This is another example of my point in my longer comment here that the coercive thought stopping mechanisms of the cult are an integral part of keeping people stuck. At some point, people who are out in the real world will eventually wake up as the gulf between what they observe in reality and the model of how the world works that they learn in the cult continues to widen.

      And it’s got to be funny as hell to watch Scientologists who are taught that they are the most powerful beings on Earth panic and run away when some suppressive person is unleashed in their midst.

      • Sid

        A great example of this was the video of Mike and Marty going to the FH to see Mike’s son.

        • richelieu jr

          Got a link, Sid?

          • Sid

            There are other examples. Some may be better than this one, but it’s the first that came to mind.

            • Dylan

              I prefered the black guy that used to hangout in front of the Fort Harrison main entrance reading scripture out of the bible, to this circus.

            • Sunny Sands

              Not sure when this happened, but it was uploaded in 2010.

              You can see the mess of the Sooper Powerz construction across the street, with the fabric fence trying to keep the debris off the poor people trying to walk on the sidewalk. Sooper Powerz building was started in 1998, so by this time it was 12 years of the mess. They deserved every penny of the $400,000+ fine.

            • MaxSpaceman

              should’ve been a 4 million dollar fine, Sunny S.

            • Sunny Sands


            • aquaclara

              Hey, Flint, Michigan-watch this. Is this what you want for your city?

              Because this is what happens when parents try to see their kids who are in the cult.

            • MaxSpaceman

              like Mussolini’s fascist militants scilon staff are.

            • Juicer77

              So much “confront.” Hide behind the door, whispering. “Winning!”

            • richelieu jr

              Thanks, plus ça change, eh?

            • Sid

              ,,,c’est la même chose.

            • richelieu jr

              Why does that fat thug keep wiping his mouth? Is he drooling uncontrollably?

            • beauty for ashes

              he’s spitting all over himself with his forceful speech!

            • richelieu jr

              Where does uncontrollable spittle and drooling fall on the Tone Scale?

            • beauty for ashes

              i’m a never-in so not great with the specifics but maybe something happened to him in a past life to cause the overflow of saliva…like he died of dehydration.?. he should check that out.

            • richelieu jr

              Thanks, Sid!

            • aquaclara

              I do love the confident attitude, er, shall we call that the insouciance of Marty and Mike in walking right up and standing there.
              In a building they both knew well.
              No fear.

              Love it, love it, love it.

              What I hate, though, is that Mike can’t see his son. Damn cult.
              Thanks for posting this vid.

      • Annabelle

        It’s how they “shatter suppression.”

      • joeapple212

        “thought stopping mechanisms of the cult are an integral part of keeping people stuck” – JohnP

        Thought stopping mechanisms are most certainty deployed in scientology’s war on the human soul. But what really co-opts your mind is believing you got something good from scientology.

        “These people are spiritual seekers who have tried to find answers in other religions and have not been satisfied . . . A lot of people have actually subjectively been helped by these courses.” – Pulitzer Prize-winning author Lawrence Wright

        That’s what keeps them in. They remember what they got out of it, even if it was mostly in the beginning. People who continue to ‘get something out of it’ become indies. The philosophy is pseudo-science, but for some people, auditing changes the way they feel . . . and that’s not a placebo effect, either . . . they use auditing to manage their mood, attention and state of mind.

        “Many intelligent, skeptical people become members of Scientology, like Hollywood screenwriter Paul Haggis. I wanted the reader to feel a little scared about the capacity of the human mind and the human personality to be changed by outside forces, because it is possible to direct a person’s thinking and behavior.”

        We all have they same brains.

        “The mind it takes to have religion is the standard architecture that we all have by virtue of being members of the species . . . We need no special mentality or mind.” – “Religion Explained: The Evolutionary Origins of Religious Thought” 2001 Pascal Boyer

        Finding a drug-free way of changing your state of mind is so appealing to some people that they are willing to believe in things that aren’t real.

        “The story of the emperor’s new clothes ends as follows: ‘And the chamberlains went on carrying the train that wasn’t there.'”

        – Fashionable Nonsense – by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont

        • Sid

          Except that it IS a placebo effect, and those brief moments of hypnotic euphoria are mistaken for long term gain.

          • joeapple212

            Maybe for you, it was a placebo effect. But for me, (and many others), it clearly wasn’t. There’s no denying that.

            And I have experienced that euphoria first hand.

        • Once_Born

          The story of the Emperor’s new clothes explains a lot about Scientology – and why many people who have not experienced the benefits that they were promised pretend that they have, in the hope everything will (eventually) come right.

          Hans Christian Anderson’s story probably inspired the psychological concept of ‘pluralistic ignorance’ which explains even more

          • joeapple212

            Excellent. All it takes is a couple happy faces. Others will pretend they’re getting something out of it.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Which brings the question – who is the real “SP”?

      • “A suppressing person isn’t critical. A suppressing person is a person who denies the rights of others.”

        L. Ron Hubbard

        • Missionary Kid

          Well, then LRH and DM have been trying to be some of the biggest suppressive persons in the world, haven’t they?

    • In Toronto, the Org once complained to the police about our pickets, saying that our mere presence was terrifying their parishioners.

      • Sid

        Scientology: Victimized hypocritical drama queens.

        • Yes, then the “victims” would try picket chicken tactics going from intimidation up to shoving and punching.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      They run away from explanations of their own “religion”.

      Just tell them that Xenu caused the Wall of Fire!

      Challenge any of them to say the word “Xenu” out loud! They can’t do it without wondering the self damage or damage they would be doing to others’ “cases” by just uttering the word “Xenu” publicly themselves.

      They cannot publicly even define “Xenu”.

      • Sid

        Chuck, That is so true. In fact anything that challenges their beliefs (wasn’t it supposed to be based on science and not beliefs?) will send them scurrying. I once said to a Scientologist that if an OT can lose his gains when connected to an SP doesn’t that mean the SP is more powerful than the OT? They bolted from the conversation.

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          Imagine if you said that to Hubbard, he’d have been upset for hours afterwards! LOL

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          Can you imagine what Hubbard’s dad thought of L. Ron?

          I think it would have been interesting to hear some of his dad’s skepticism that the dad might have said to L. Ron!

          Imagine the reality of those moments when his dad commented about Scientology and about L. Ron’s “success” !

          Too bad his dad wasn’t interviewed!

          • dchoiceisalwaysrs

            Interviewed perhaps not, but if I recall correctly “Afaceinthecrowd” of ESMB met with elron’s pop on the Apollo?

          • Peter Moon

            As I recall, when Harry Ross Hubbard visited the Apollo in the Summer of ’75 – I think we were on the island of Trinidad – he made a comment that he was glad to hear all those things they were saying about Ronnie were not true. This was LRH’s last chance to see his father, who would die within a year’s time or so, and it meant a lot to LRH. This is in contrast to the portrayal that he did not care about family at all. It would have been easy to blow off his father. HRH as he was referred to was accompanied by a relative (not sure the exact relation) named Leona Stats or Staats (no joke). HRH wore his navel uniform, that of a commander in the US Navy.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              would have been nice to hear his voice on tape or film, ah well!

              Thanks for relating!

              Are you in touch with Leon Steinberg, and how to reach Leon?


            • I just saw this comment. Funny how chat boards work. Leon is a chiropractor who might be retired. He was in or around San Diego and drove to a “reunion” or Terry Gamboa’s birthday party last year with Amos Jessup. Don’t know how to get hold of him.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              Oh my goodness, I couldn’t attend, and I’d have liked to chat with him, he was a pretty stellar person, I thought, I only knew him as a much younger wannabe (then, not now) of the top auditor ranks which I held Leon as about the best of them all, in my view.

              I don’t think the practice of auditing is a wise career choice, it’s a never accepted form of counseling.

              Leon, as one of the Class 12s that I saw daily going to and from the Ls HGC when I was on the TTC as a total newbie tech trainee with my TIP that would have led me to reach a Class 12 status had I even been remotely capable of becoming an auditor, I didn’t have it, I’m not the counselor type, more the studier type, but Leon looked to me like one of the best practitioners of the Flag auditors at that window I saw them this was 1976-1979 when they all quit and routed out or blew.

              thanks for the info that he’d come to that party and Amos would know of course how to contact him, if I knew what even to say. I’ve so lost interest in the whole subject.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              “…he made a comment that he was glad to hear all those things they were saying about Ronnie were not true…”

              Harry Ross Hubbard would have been in a quandary about the pallets of money in the Liechtenstein bank vault though! (Harry ought to have asked to go along with Kima Douglas or whoever was doing those once a year observation missions to see the money stash of his son’s, might have opened up that big question about what Ron was doing with his pile of money!)

              Do you know if Vicki (Polimeni) Liviningston, who held LRH Accounts at one point, got to meet Harry Ross Hubbard and chit chat? (Makes me think what happend to Vicki, and she’d be a bundle of fun stories about LRH’s accounts!) Just telling Harry Ross Hubbard of the people in the LRH Personal Office, title by title, and what they did, the position of “LRH Accounts” ought to have triggered a few questions from dad!

              Who all got to chit chat with Harry Ross?

            • HRH was ushered around – not sure by who – with a Leona Stats, a relative. I think that was her first name. He was alone releasing in the aft lounge when I was up close to him and anyone could have come up and said hello. It was very hot and he was getting a drink or something. There is no way he would have been introduced to every member of LRH’s staff or anything of the kind. It would have been totally “OUT-R” !!!! to say the least. This was all a few weeks before Kima’s mission with the money. Although the mission was secret to some extent, I remember Mike talking to me about it…at least what he could say…as we looked over the rail into the harbor. No way would Vicky have talked to him or gone out of her way in my opinion. Jon Horwich would probably be the best source to find who talked to HRH as he probably would have at least a family meal with him.

      • Well Chuck about 75 million years ago and son and so forth.

      • pronoia

        When I used to occasionally run into scientology recruitment tables in Times Square, I used to walk up to them and tell them that I had never been in a scientology org, but that OT 3 was available to read in Hubbard’s handwriting on the internet and that I had read it many times and that I have never ever had pneumonia in my life. As fast as I could! And then I would basically begin to paraphrase the story beginning with “once upon a time there was an evil overlord called Xenu.” And then Xenu did this and then Xenu did that and so on. They would look shocked and basically scurry away from their table out of earshot, which isn’t hard in a noisy NYC subway station. My hope was that my preamble about not getting pneumonia would create cognitive dissonance.

        Haven’t seen one of those tables in quite a while. I am sure that quite a number of others were giving them a hard time as well!

        • Missionary Kid

          EXCELLENT! Maybe a sign to that effect, carried right in front of the tables in Hollywood would get them to scurry away.

          • pronoia

            Well, I didn’t want them to scurry off! i wanted them to hear as much as possible about OT 3. And the inherent contradictions, that I was not a clear and that I was fine etc. A sign would probably run them off too fast before you could say anything, and they they would end up thinking that they are wonderful success at avoiding entreat. Rather than being exposed to the the ridiculousness of their thought processes & beliefs.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’d have a quote from LRH on the sign, plus attribution, so they could look it up.

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          It’s so good to what you did. You are doing them a favor. They witness firsthand no bad consequences, and that will change them.

          Xenu just caused the 4th dynamic engram. The 4th dynamic engram explains where “body thetans” came from.

          OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are Scientology’s exorcism steps/levels to rid themselves of these imagined “body thetans.” .

          The Hubbard story about Xenu and body thetans is anti climatic, you won’t harm them.

    • Annabelle

      This is it exactly.

  • John P.

    There is much to appreciate in Jon’s column this morning. As always, I learned a lot.

    There are indeed control mechanisms that are seeded in one’s mind after being in the cult for a long time. However, I think he’s underestimating the effect that external control mechanisms of the organization have in keeping people stuck in the Scientology mindset. I have argued before that mechanisms like living in fear of getting called down to “ethics,” like having to write a “success story” about all your “wins” after each auditing session, and all the other actions of the cult to enforce thought stopping on members that might be wavering, are extremely important in keeping people stuck.

    Incidentally, that’s why I argue that Independent Scientology is unlikely to be a viable movement; most people who become independent Scientologists seem to use it as a way station on their journey back into the real world. The indies (correctly) want to avoid the evil of the corporate cult but that inadvertently means doing away with the control mechanisms that keep people attached. If you read Marty Rathbun’s blog, he has moved far away from being a hard-core “independent Scientologist” in the last two years. Even someone who spent the majority of his life in the Sea Org can bounce back.

    Jon makes it sound like there’s little hope for anyone leaving the cult to regain any measure of sanity. I think there’s a wide range of levels of indoctrination. I’ve talked to plenty of longtime members who left relatively easily without a lengthy decompression period, but these are almost always people with significant careers outside the cult. I’d agree that Sea Org members who were raised by Scientologist parents and were vacuumed up into the organization at an early age are a different thing entirely.

    • richelieu jr

      Right on target with your remark about those who have independent careers seem to convert more easily, JP. I would add strong family ties and continuing relationships/friendships outside the cult (which is why the cult works so hard to sever these contacts), as well as knowledge or contact wiht exes who have gone on to success.`Ì am much ess sanguine in my perception of the Indies, however. I see it asmethadone to the cult’s heroin, whereas cod turkey is much better. Also, they actively work to indoctringate others into Hubbard’s sect as well as endless, desperate efforts to rehabilitate the image of Hubbard. Marty may ahve begun to wise up, but his books are still out ther eon Amazon, injecting poison into the populace (or trying to)

      As long as Hubbardism exists, the DNA of the Stalinist enterprise he created remains intact. Once we take the boot off the neck of Scientology, it will right itself. They did it after Operation Snow White and Lisa Peterson. They did it after Hubbard’s death (and whatever Miscavige’s faults- and they are indeed legion), Scientology still exists, whereas most cults don’t survive the years immediate following their charismatic leader’s death. And it still has hundreds of millions of dollars to survive on. Money that might just be for the taking should the criminal enterprise be decapitated.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’d like to point out that in the years following Hubbard’s death that the cult has only shrunk in size. It’s because of its control methods that it’s managed to keep functioning, but because of the draconian measures set forth by DM, it’s shrunk even more rapidly in the face of the internet and public information.

        Scientology will never right itself completely. It’s in its DNA to be anti-scientific and hostile to anything contradicting their dogma. At this point, it’s only operating on inertia.

        • HappypantsDance

          I hadn’t thought of it in quite this way, but I agree. The DNA from “Source” is already corrupt. The indies claim that DM’s GAT I & II are “out-tech,” indeed that ALL DM’s actions are out-tech. Maybe so if one wants to be incredibly literal, but that’s not so on a figurative level: DM further twists the already twisted thinking inherent in Source, further pathologizes the already pathological.

          • Missionary Kid

            The DNA from “Source” is not only corrupt, but it’s contradictory, so one can pick and choose which one to emphasize.

            As someone put it, for every statement that LRH made, can be found a contradictory statement.

            In his later years, he had a group that took his words down and tried to make sense of them and fit them into a narrative that made sense. Some of those people were more competent than others in their job. What was published as his words really wasn’t.

            • HappypantsDance

              I knew about all the contradictions, but I had no idea that some of his words actually weren’t his. That makes things even worse! I guess drwarfenfuhrer can use that to his advantage for as long he’s allowed to reign supreme.

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          “Fads and Fallacies” by Martin Gardner’s point.

          “Bare Faced Messiah” by Russell Miller’s point

          And Hubbard borrowed and made zillions of in house membership rules for staffs and followers, Hubbard’s Navy-like military style “hard core” bureaucracy, adding his own “fences” limiting mobility of roped in gullible hopeful members. The OSA intel and dirty tricks PI hiring and legal flaps handling branch, to boot!

          It’s an extensive package deal you get with you join official Scientology!

          That whole Hubbard created package deal is still lumbering along, badly, as Mike Rinder points out daily on his blog!

          • Missionary Kid

            Right now, it’s institutional inertia.

          • A whole new market of “targets” has opened up for Scientology:


            • Missionary Kid

              That’s an aged Alfred E. Neuman!

            • joan nieman

              OMG! Yes. Alfred E. Neuman it is!

            • Missionary Kid

              Alfred’s much better looking, and he hasn’t fucked anybody over. Even though he’s a smiling idiot, he still looks better than LRH.

      • John P.

        To be clear, I am not for a second advocating that critics let up in activism against this organization. You are absolutely right that Scientology is like a cockroach among religions: step on it and you get more. And you’re absolutely right that the money will allow it to persist far longer than many other organizations of its type.

        I’m simply saying that gravity is on our side… once a crack forms in belief, you will eventually get an ex-Scientologist… it may take a very long time indeed, but it will happen in most cases. The die-hard Indies are the exception that proves the rule; I bet that the retention rate of indies is quite low (though I suspect Terrill and a few others may take umbrage with that assertion).

        • aquaclara

          Watching the Indies, I see a couple of problems. Once one decides to pick and choose from the Hubbard mishmash, it all becomes open to interpretation. So there’s no longer a consensus for what works. This makes it hard to form a collective group, since the ideas of what to keep and what to toss require communication and thinking skills that aren’t used in Scientology.

          Next, most Indies are in various stages of having developed (or regained) their critical thinking skills. And the collective works of Hubbard do not survive critical thinking, as we well know.

          I hear “the tech works” – but what tech? “Auditing works” – well, only as long as one wants to answer a bunch of personal questions. Leave out the awkward questions, and is it still tech? “Oh, it improves communication skills!” Um. No.

          I think it’s more like the Easter Bunny. Once you know it’s fake, you begin to see it for what it really is. You might enjoy a few more years of jelly beans and chocolate rabbits, but you no longer believe in the woo.

          • i-Betty

            This is such a great comment (apart from the last paragraph, more of which later) because it puts into words clearly and concisely what I sometimes struggle to explain to people about the difficulty of unanimity within a well-meaning group who wish to selectively pick the ideas they deem beneficial whilst discarding what they know to be horrible and wrong.

            PS: Pardon me? What is this propaganda you’re spreading about the Easter Bunny, Clara? Nobody tells me a chocolate-centric holiday is a fantasy and expects to go unchallenged!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              She’s lyin’ like a rug, iB and I have proof! She is in fact harboring said Bunny in her own backyard. I have pics And docs! I will now jump to the conclusion that she is spreading this entheta so she can horde all the candy for herself. She’s so busted.

            • i-Betty

              There’s every chance I may call the police, Thid.

            • joan nieman

              She had better release that rabbit before we send in the Private Eyes and Bunny Busters over there.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              well, did I forget to mention it just showed up and eating her garden? Naturally, the bunny wanted to leave a little something.

            • aquaclara

              aha, that is so funny.
              I promise, though, I have released the Bunny.

            • Jenny Daniels

              I don’t know you, BUT I LOVE YOU!!

            • i-Betty

              I’m very chilled out, not much gets me riled up. But, chocolate, you know? 😛

            • joan nieman

              For some unknown reason, Easter chocolate has a taste and smell that is one of a kind. I am now craving the solid chocolate ears of an Easter bunny.

            • i-Betty

              I’m not in the least proud of this, but 2 years ago I carefully broke open the children’s eggs, stole the mini chocolate buttons from inside, pressed the two sides back together (I ought to say four sides, because I did it with both their eggs) and wrapped them back up in the gold foil. I would do it again. It’s an Easter-based shame spiral.

            • aquaclara

              Ok, ok, I called the Easter Bunny, and got him to make an off-schedule stop here at the Bunker. It took a bit, but we have some success here. Just for you, I-Betty! (refresh)

              Well,it looks like you’re going to have to share with Joan and Jenny and TheHoleDoesNotExist….we have some chocolate fans here today!

            • i-Betty

              As long as I get the ears I’m a happy bu…person, thank you! Aaaaand breathe 😀

        • richelieu jr

          No, I take your point completely (and it speaks to the more hopeful, optimistic side of my nature– Yes, it does exist!), and it is defintitelya game of diminishing returns. ON theother ahnd I never forget that Scientology was reduced to a handful of people after it crashed and burned in the early 50s. And Hubbard was able to flip it, sell it, revamp it and make it ever more powerful and insidious.

          Today we have the benefit of the Internet and free flowing knowledge, but themyth is that back then it was some great secret that Scientology was a scam. It was big news when they got raided and Dianetics was a huge, if short-lived fad. When Hubbard went donw, it was known. And the country was far more judeo-christian than it is today. Cults were far less acceptable and the pressure not to join must have been incredible, That is why there were so man ‘free thinkers’ and ‘rebels’ in at the beginning; “I won’t conform, I’ll join Scientology! That’ll show them! (in the words of Frank Black ‘I don’t conform/ I wear a different uniform’)

          Miscavige is terribly uncharismatic, but he’s getting older and feeling the heat. There is an interview at the end of the Reitman book with a teenage girl who has heard all the “rumours” about Miscavige hitting people and figure there’s probably some truth to them, but then why does no one speak up? That’s what Scientology is all about! So they are part of the problem! And her role as young Scientologist is to bring life and vigour to the Church. She doesn’t believe nay of the info on Hubbard though, because it doesn’t match the Great Man she knows through his writing.

          She’s seen the South Park ep, too.

          Remove DM, put some equally ambitious, but charismatic and young guy intot he mix and you’ve got the Red Cyst)head of Hubbard rising from the ashes like a phoenix, with all the research and info against him just more proof of the conspiracy…

          We know ore about the scam today than ever before; But there are naive, well-meaning suckers born every minute, and also rebels against common sense and ambitious, power-mad climbers as well.

          (and this is, of course, my less optimistic, more paranoid side, to be sure..)

    • Ms. B. Haven

      “There are indeed control mechanisms that are seeded in one’s mind after being in the cult for a long time. “
      This is so true. Some of these mechanisms are obvious and stand out like a sore thumb, but many are subtle and insidious. After being out for decades, I still find myself behaving in ways that are reminiscent of my time in the cult. I think that this is because of my ‘natural’ quirks and inclinations. For example, I was raised with a strong work ethic so I have little tolerance for people who I perceive as lazy. From a scientology viewpoint, they are ‘downstat’ and slothful. I still find myself falling into that mindset from time to time. It may or may not be true that such a person is lazy, but the reality of the situation is that they just might be a more well rounded person than I am and are having a whole lot more fun and getting a whole lot more enjoyment out of life than I am. Maybe, maybe not. The reality of the situation is that I am not the center of the universe as scientology preaches. People have wide ranges of inclinations and interests and just maybe it is a good thing to see things for what they are rather than try to be ’cause over matter, energy, space and time’ or some other ridiculous aspiration that is so widely promoted by the cult.
      It’s hard to separate wisdom from Hubbard-speak sometimes because he was such a plagiarizer with little original thought. When threads of truth run through a bag of lies, sometimes it take a bit of work to untangle the mess. I have come to find out that even if the ol’ coot did utter something that sounds helpful, it wasn’t coming from a place of genuine help, it was almost always just for his self-serving purposes.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      I know that there is a ton of information printed on the evils of alcohol. But my I believe that besides any residual health issues. My enjoyment of a six pack and a sense of humor kept me from some of the insanity. While I was in the cult I remember one day of hitchhiking about 40 miles out, and sitting down on the grassy side of the interstate and wolfing 5 of them down in about 20 minutes before walking the rest of the way on a sunny afternoon to my parents house. Reality was quickly adjusted. Same with a blues bar. I think the main reason to keep going back to the cult was the friendships. But I think I always knew something was wrong. People who are public Scientologists in areas where the Orgs are small could theoretically always remain public, while the staff come and go because of the insanity. Those people will defend their church, donate to the ideal org programs and look down on the restt of us as fools, SP’s, or just unenlightened . These people are also the ones that bring in new public. Staff members have little time for recruitment. A big wake up for me also was having children. Even when I kind of believed what I was doing Ther was no way that I would expose my children to the insanity that is the C of S…Oh and on topic. I remember the introduction of TWTH and it was quite funny back then. I started work on my own parody with advise like ‘Let sleeping dogs lie”

      • Have you ever read the satire on Desiderata that ran in the National Lampoon and was made into an audio piece?

        “Deteriorata” – National Lampoon

        You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here.

        Deteriorata. Deteriorata.

        Go placidly amid the noise and waste,

        And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.

        Avoid quiet and passive persons, unless you are in need of sleep.

        Rotate your tires.

        Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself,

        And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys.

        Know what to kiss, and when.

        Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.

        Wherever possible, put people on hold.

        Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment,

        and despite the changing fortunes of time,

        There is always a big future in computer maintenance.

        Remember The Pueblo.

        Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate.

        Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI.

        Exercise caution in your daily affairs,

        Especially with those persons closest to you –

        That lemon on your left, for instance.

        Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls

        Would scarcely get your feet wet.

        Fall not in love therefore. It will stick to your face.

        Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.

        And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

        Hire people with hooks.

        For a good time, call 606-4311. Ask for Ken.

        Take heart in the bedeepening gloom

        That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.

        And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,

        It could only be worse in Milwaukee.

        You are a fluke of the universe.

        You have no right to be here.

        And whether you can hear it or not,

        The universe is laughing behind your back.

        Therefore, make peace with your god,

        Whatever you perceive him to be – hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.

        With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,

        The world continues to deteriorate.

        Give up!

    • I agree with the point about the group reinforcement. Try reading Jenna Miscavige’s memories of a childhood spent dreading what another child could come up with in a KR.

  • richelieu jr

    A bit OT, but @aegerprimo and @and I’m cute too, were speaking yesterday about Maura Prepon’s interview where she insisted there is no homophobia in Scientology… They left some great comments, and I followed up with one of my own; I suggest you do the same, shoudl you fee so inclined. People are still reading that mendacious crap.

    Here’s what I wrote, FWIW (I am sure many here could do much better):

    It is also worth noting that, according to Hubbard (whose words and
    policy can NEVER be changed or questioned), those in a state of covert
    hostility have no reason to live and should be ‘destroyed’. There is
    some question a bout what he meant by this, but even if he didn’t mean
    killed, it sure doesn’t sound very nice, does it.
    Add to that the
    endless line of LGBT people who have been abused by the cult (start with
    Paul haggis’ daughters) and what you have is Scientologists lying (they
    call it ‘acceptable truths, or ‘shore stories’, Google them, they are
    the first definition) to ‘wogs’ (british slang for the ‘n’ word,
    basically, meaning non-scientologists, ‘muggles’ perhaps, or us. Theya r
    allowed to lie to us because we are ‘mud people’, ‘raw meat’, etc.

    are all in published works by Hubbard and easily d-findable on the net.
    Then again, Scientologists are not allowed free access to the net
    (though more and more look, which is why there are less and less

    Many Scientologists are not aware of all the
    sci-fi silliness that South Park ridiculized, because they have not gone
    far enough on Scientology’s pay-as-you-go ‘Bridge’ (OTIII, the so
    called ‘wall of fire’ costs at a minimum 300k and years of work to get
    to), and therefore are telling the truth when they say they have never
    head of it. They are told they risk death and pneumonia if they hear
    about this before,, so they avoid any information that might disturb

    However, no Scientologist can say they are unaware of the
    homophobic nature of their ‘cult’. That starts almost from day one (pick
    up the very first book Dianetics, if you don’t believe me). Homosexuals
    are told they can be ‘fixed’

    Laura Prepon is lovely and a gifted actress.

    She is also a shameless liar for the ‘Church’ of Scientology.

    Think for yourself. Look it up, folks.

    • Juicer77

      With all due respect, Ms. Prepon needs to go back to modeling and looking purty and shut the he!! up.

      • richelieu jr

        I quite agree, but she was just doing her job. Miscavige probably ordered all the actors out to lie for him, and Vonni Ribisi and Prepon were the only ones who stepped up.

  • Espiando

    Ah, lice…thank you, Jon, for bringing up one of my favorite parasites. Humans are the only species of animal that have three distinct types of lice living on them. They’re wonderfully adaptive creatures. We’ve had head lice for millions of years, and they vary in color and size depending on who they’re living on (the modern US head louse, for instance, is a hybrid of distinctly different European, African, and native American lice). When we started wearing clothing, some of them migrated downward and adapted themselves to the new environment, hence body lice. Others continued migrating downward and adapted themselves to the unique conditions of the pubic area. And humans tolerated them for the longest time. It was only with the discovery that the body louse spreads epidemic typhus that cleanliness became critical.

    So what does this have to do with Scientology? Well, there are certain reservoirs where typhus is endemic. One of them covers much of Eastern Europe. In the 1920s, after the discovery of the louse vector of typhus, the government of Poland decided to do an eradication campaign based on public education. You know, take more frequent baths, clean your clothing, etc. Simple stuff, really. And then…problem. The public health mavens brought their campaign to rural villages in southern Poland, and the peasants didn’t believe them. They’d lived with lice their entire lives, and they didn’t get sick (well, not many of them). They had no conception of what it would be like to live without their body lice. There was an undercurrent of suspicion, in fact, that the government was trying to kill them by having them get rid of their lice (unlike the Taliban and polio vaccine, though, the Polish peasants didn’t resort to outright murder).

    Now extend this to Scientology. Can a Scientologist live without squirrels, real or imagined? Who would they define themselves against if there weren’t squirrels? Is it too scary for your average Scientologist to imagine? What would a world without squirrels be like? That’s one of their goals, but like Planetary Clearing, it’s never going to happen.

    So, Scientologists may not like the itching, but they don’t know what life is like without it. So they continue to scratch, preferring stability over change. That’s what condemns them to Epic Fail.

    • Missionary Kid

      They have to have someone or something to strive against. It is similar to the fire and brimstone preachers I’m familiar with. They need a powerful Devil to overcome with their Jesus power. The Devil is more powerful than humans, but Jesus has more power.

      Without a powerful Devil, with the fire pits of hell, they can’t demonstrate how powerful and merciful Jesus is.

        • Missionary Kid

          You guys are giving me a bunch of laughs this morning. Thanks.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          There will always be Scientopoly

          • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03


            This ought to be seriously put together, a “game” to decompress oneself, I’m serious!

            Great comment, ought to be become a real sub site, like in Russia, so copyright infringement is all avoided!


            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Made these last year, Chuck. If I had the dough, I’d seriously have a whole series of them manufactured, sell them to psychiatrists and therapists who specialize in cult victims. Leah Remini inspired me to design her very own Brooklyn Edition:


          • jeff

            I certainly hope not.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              the game, the game!

            • joan nieman

              Oh that is so clever THDNE! Scientology is a game. The so-called winner actually is the loser. Brilliant!

          • For the Cadet version, you could use a Snakes’n’Ladders board, only without the ladders.

      • Ah, “The Devil”. I can’t believe I used to try and believe in that gobbledygook to please my family. I like cartoon devils because knowing the people that drew him in a silly fashion weren’t scared of the idea of “The Devil” was subtle support to my growing disbelief and sanity. That’s why I try to make goofy shoops of the stuff Tony reports 🙂

    • For you, although it’s possible you’ve read the book:
      Feeling itchy? A new book explores the hidden world of parasites (17:49)

      (Caution: Do not listen unless you plan to have a good scrub in the shower.)

    • Once_Born

      I read somewhere that body lice and pubic lice can be induced to interbreed in unnatural (laboratory) conditions. This creates a very confused and sterile hybrid, who has no idea what it’s doing.

      This reminds me of a louse called David Miscavige (a charismatic leader with no charisma) whom independent Scientologists seem to need to blame in order to sustain their commitment.

  • joeapple212

    Thank you Mr Atack for another thoughtful essay.

    “You actually know that you are on the road to recovery when you dare to read a book about the brain”

    It contradicts Scientology very nicely.

    “there was no doubt that the afflictions described in Sacks’ book were linked to the destruction of specific areas of the brain, because the same damage causes the same affliction.”

    It’s obvious our brains have something to do with what we experience as ‘consciousness.’ But it’s not completely understood. The subject has lost none of it’s magic. And although we may never completely understand consciousness, it’s very interesting to read about the research and new insights into human nature.

    “[Hubbard] had only scorn for anyone who thought the brain a wonderful and vital organ, and the most marvelous development in all of evolution”

    As an ex-scientologist, I used to be disgusted at the idea that I was “just a brain.” I wanted to be a spiritual being, above it all. Now that I’ve done some studying, the science makes me feel alive and connected – not only to other life forms – but to the universe itself. Because consciousness is a reality, not a religion.

    • kemist

      I don’t understand this disgust of people of being described as animals, or as their brains.

      When you’ve observed animals and studied brains, you have no choice but to see how wonderful, beautiful and complex they are. I really don’t understand this desire to deny our relatedness and to accentuate our differences with other animals, or to separate ourselves from the rest of nature via some external magical essence such as a soul or thetan.

      Categorically separating myself from close cousins like gorillas by stating something like “I have something called a soul and they don’t” is the height of ridiculousness to me, when I can see something of myself the primate in them.

      That this distinction was once used on certain humans because of the color of their skin disgusts me. That is why I have never liked this concept of “souls”. It’s always been a mechanism to justify exploitation.

      • grundoon

        “That is why I have never liked this concept of “souls”. It’s always been a mechanism to justify exploitation.”

        Bang on.

        Your “self,” body and mind and spirit — all unified, a physical and spiritual unity — altogether yours.

        But fragment yourself into an earthbound, shameful, profane part (everything physical) and a lofty, spiritual, valuable part (with no physical existence). The first part is yours… your burden, your impediment. The second part, you’ll hand over into the care of a spiritual authority figure, a savior, a guru, a priesthood. You’re taught to hate the part that’s yours and give blood, sweat and tears for the betterment of the part that’s theirs. To show your scorn for your earthly baggage, you abuse it or make of it an offering to the custodians of your spirit.

        It’s a swindle.

        P. T. Barnum was right.

  • aquaclara

    There are some good comments written in response to the Flint, Michigan article. What the hell are they thinking?

    Chime in if you like. And I will send a letter to the chief of. Police, who needs to get a clue about Scientology.

  • Dylan

    thanks Jon. this all rings very true. I know quite a few “ex” scientologists that would benefit from this chain of thought. sadly most of them are not to a point where they can experience this level of info.

    • aquaclara

      How sad to hear this. Your comment made me think about another one I read last night, from California. This goes a long way toward explaining why some exes were helpful in sharing information about how Narconon works, while sadly, some were not, even to the point of continuing to lie. Some still couldn’t get past the fences….

      Another profound article by Jon. I learn so much.

  • MaxSpaceman

    “…a summary of their beliefs [scientologists] will generally lead to a diagnosis of “paranoid delusion”

    Jon, that is so true: paranoid of any declared/un-declared suppressive person and deluded that all health problems are inextricably linked to ‘entities’ within one’s body, those entities being the spirits/thetans of dead individuals from the 75 other planets in the Marcab Confederation.

    • Dylan

      the dude abides.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      That and they are going to come find me. Try to ruin me. etc….Who’s in that car?

  • N. Graham

    To paraphrase: “Just when you think things can’t get any worse…” So Flint and Scientology might have an unholy alliance? That could be interesting. Maybe they could turn the shell of AutoWorld into an Ideal Morgue! I am certain that the gang violence will go away once “the book” is distributed in the hood. Oh yea, this could be exciting!
    As Jon Atack demonstrates, Scientology has the power to keep you brainwashed long after the Moonie effect or the Krishna chanting have worn off.

    • It sounds like one of those dish washing liquid commercials:

      “Moonies washed this many brains, and Krisha washed this many, but look at how many brains improved Scientology with GAT-II can wash!–now with longer lasting cult bubbles!”

      • kemist

        With our new Thought Stopping (TM) technology, brains washed with Scientology (TM) brand indoctrination stay clean longer than with any other cult, or your money back (not really).

      • grundoon

        I feel the urge to communicate to you the best news since 1950…. We can make homo novis. (AND give a grin to those who kept standing around bleating, “Where are the clears?”) …

        We now know more about psychiatry than psychiatrists. We can brainwash faster than the Russians (20 secs to total amnesia against three years to slightly confused loyalty).

        We can undo whatever psychiatrists do, even the tougher grade from away back. We can therefore undo a brainwash in 25 to 75 hours….

        This data in the wrong hands before we are fully prepared could raise the Devil literally…. I will be giving this data in full at the Games Congress, Shoreham Hotel, WASHINGTON, D.C., August 31st, to September 3rd, 1956….


  • Racnad

    It’s easy for Scientology to stick with a person because much of it is convenient labels and logical explanations for things we see. Emotions can be observed in others so it’s easy to use labels, or even numbers, from the Tone Level scale. If we or someone around us is frazzled or unfocused, it is easy to think PTS! There does exist negative people who seem to suck our energy and some that actively try to harm us. How easy is it to call the SPs and try to stay away from them.
    I don’t think smoking a joint proves that someone is entirely out of it, as it can be a way to say “FU” to the Church, or maybe an attempt to get out. I think when one stops thinking like I’ve described above, as well as what Jon said – reading a book by a psychiatrist or about the brain with an open mind – then one might have finally escaped the mental bonds of the cult.

  • 448Beacon

    Scientology scholarship: Always Atack. Never defend.

    • Missionary Kid

      AMEN! ^^^^^^

  • BosonStark

    This demonization of outsiders is found in nationalism and other groups, but growing up as a Christian, where a goal is to be Christ-like, the whole thing of not looking at Hubbard and his well-documented life is what I find most puzzling, especially now with the Internet. I mean what I always wanted to know was a detailed life of Christ, especially the younger years.

    To find the nature of Christ, Christians have to rely on tradition, and superstition mostly, and the loose collection of whatever called the Bible. None of it is substantial documentation, historically, due to the number of years and the way the Bible got copied, and the way stories and traditions were passed along.

    One of the goals of Scientology is to find yourself, get all kinds of new abilities, but you have to do it by running Hubbard’s case in his prescribed manner. You can’t draw the curtain back and look at what Hubbard was doing, or even what his life was like, or the lives of those people around him. Instead, you’re supposed to imagine a wonderful future for yourself, and simultaneously accept Hubbard’s glorious past. It’s like they don’t allow you to think of unlimited possibilities for yourself, unless you can imagine and accept that Hubbard was this astounding genius with all the answers.

    If you think otherwise, a trillion years of shivering in darkness for you, and no soup either.

  • Eileen

    Jon Atack’s very interesting piece has a couple of misunderstandings about psychotherapy. The most important is the idea that most therapists wouldn’t know where to begin. As a psychotherapist (the real licensed and certified as opposed to scio kind), the place to begin would be to help the person relearn language. The sciospeak terms (entheta, enturbulate, tone scale…) create a wall of sound around the individual , a reality that is unique and isolated. Most therapists would know to use human development theories to assess where the individual is snagged. Language aquisition begins within weeks of birth, so the damage done by sciospeak is profoundly isolating.

    • Dylan

      so after they lose the talk. there are many layers to the onion, tomato?

      I know the language but I no longer use it in daily life. unless it is fitting to the topic or people.

      I have been to quite a few therapists. Quite a few of them did not know where to begin. after hearing my story one said I’m surprised your alive. With this topic I have found that you have to educate most therapists into how scientology works and thinks. thus reinforcing your knowledge of the subject, giving them a lesson in cults and religion. I have had positive interactions and highly recommend going to a professional when you find there are no answers easily at hand.

      thanks for your input.

      • Eileen

        Are you certain that you were educating them, as opposed to the idea that by listening to your story they were educating you in having a human interaction post cult? Telling someone that you are surprised they survived would be very reasonable, if true.
        The relearning of communication takes place not only in therapy, but often on blogs when people tell their stories, interact, and learn how to engage in kind give and take.

        • Dylan

          I’m pretty certain. they would say I know nothing about scientology and how it works. I would love to work with you. you get the idea.

          I did not think it was bad re being alive. ( I guess it was true.) it was just more of their shock as to the inner workings of a religion.

          thanks for helping people and making this a priority in your life.

        • GSioux

          Does it need to be one or the other? I find many ex-cult members are not easily open to being “educated”. In fact, they often avoid therapy and finding a church community because they are not at a point where they can trust others? And can’t yet trust themselves to make a wise choice. However they are relieved when there is an openness to mutual learning.

        • aquaclara

          One learning moment I’ve seen on some of the blogs – namely, ESMB and WWP – is the comment about getting back to using non-cult speak in the real life, and also online. As one could imagine, the approach by WWP is a bit more dramatic than the hugs and flowers given by many ESMB’ers, but it has the same effect – get away from the “inside language” unless you’re just defining a term.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      “… the place to begin would be to help the person relearn language…”

      Yes, throw out the Hubbard crap self limiting “fence” language and boundaries one’s looking at the world through!

      Reading good current writing, reading good current magazines, I enjoyed the NY Times, New Yorker, Atlantic Monthly, New York Review of Books, the Nation, just read good modern thinking and see how limiting Hubbard’s whole language and ideas are!

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    “JON: To keep the follower trapped in the mindset of the group, it is necessary to erect fences, so that they will not stray. In most groups these fences melt away once the rituals of the group are abandoned. ”

    I fell into the “seeker” type of follower, already had heard of the monks and young people of my generation running off to India to join a guru for 20 plus years, so I put Scientology in that light, in 1975 when I decided to throw my life away and make the staff route trek up the “Bridge” to out of the body spiritual enlightenment (which no one gets, only some delusionally fantasize and share testimonials of that out of the body hallucination experience that they sparingly had).

    No fence needed if you are a gullible seeker who overly hopes Hubbard’s hype and lies are true.

    Your own hope pulls the fantasy noose around your own neck!

    Hubbard was a spinner or tales.

    “One Was Stubborn” is a good read for anyone else hooked like I was, into the hope that the out of the body spiritual enlightenment soul astronaut “abilities” would result from doing Hubbard’s “Bridge to Total Freedom” fantasy trek.

    “One Was Stubborn” is a 1940 short story/novelette Hubbard wrote, and it needs an in depth review and comparison to Hubbard’s own life.

    Hubbard dying months he told Sarge Steven Pfauth the dedicated handy man security Sea Org member there at Creston Ranch in Hubbard’s final months and day, he said he was going to go circle a star once he’d died.

    More of Hubbard’s own fantasy about spiritual abilities he said that OTs (operating thetans, the big being souls that didn’t need bodies to operate in universe, think of Caspar the Ghost type of super souls out there who intervene and interact in planets’ civilizations, the big being souls also need some spiritual “therapy” rejuvenation at times, and Hubbard in the 1979ish “running program” despatch traffic talked of how these ancient long ago super souls (“OTs”) would fly around in large ovals or circles, in space, to do this souls rejuvenation on themselves).

    Hubbard’s final thoughts, go do the same himself! He considered himself this “big being” planet helping, planet changing, individual, hopping from planet to planet, like Hubbard’s other science fiction character in the Hubbard “Old Doc Methuselah” stories Hubbard wrote in the late 1940s.

    Crank, deluded spiritual spinning of hoped for but never proven, not ever proven, soul abilities. How to convince people who totally believe in past lives, that their past lives are not “real”, is huge to one’s continuing belief that Hubbard’s setup is worth their continued support, and I think the past lives belief gets underappreciated. Hubbard piggy backed his Scientology onto human spiritual hopes for spiritual transcendence and into long range spiritual beliefs like past and future lives.

    Hubbard’s item to sell to the public, is this Bridge to Total Freedom layout of crank therapy and crank exorcism, using the gizmo “Emeter” to prove to oneself that one’s answers and “charged” areas of one’s past lives “timetrack” are real and need discharging by doing the Hubbard crank therapy and exorcism steps to discharge these supposedly negative areas of one’s soul’s past!

    It’s a crank spiritual operation, that’s hoodwinked and beaten down the IRS in the USA.

    Hubbard’s writer skills keep the undereducated hopeful members within their own fences they put up because they hope what Hubbard is selling is real!

    • “One Was Stubborn” is a good read for anyone else hooked like I was,
      into the hope that the out of the body spiritual enlightenment soul
      astronaut “abilities” would result from doing Hubbard’s “Bridge to Total

      Thank you Chuck

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Well said.

  • villagedianne

    “As with all other mechanisms of control, this technique is found throughout society. Identification with nation — that bane of 19th century thinking — leads people to believe that communists or capitalists — or ‘ists’ of whatever variety — are intent on destroying their world. This is convenient for the masters of war who rule us. . .”

    I’m so glad you said that Jon. Unquestioning groupthink is everywhere, and we’ve all been bamboozled sometime or other. That’s why Scientology has so much to teach us. Mark Twain said:

    “In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.”

    • ze moo

      Farthing or farting?

      • villagedianne

        heh heh good one!

        • ze moo

          Dyslexia is my friend…and her sister Dianelexia too…

    • Kim O’Brien

      he also said that the Book of Mormon was ” chloraphorme in print” LOL

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Maybe I have missed it this week due to not checking in here at the Bunker, but is comedian Rob Schneider a closet Scilon? Take a look at his comments about Robin Williams suicide and Big Pharma.

    • kemist

      Blaming “Big Pharma” isn’t unique to scientologists.

      His comments are not very different from those of run-of-the-mill alt med cranks I see on anti-quackery blogs.

      • OrangySky

        Big Pharma is pretty evil. But Scientology is worse, in my book. Because it pretends to be a religion. Big Pharma doesn’t even pretend to be anything but greedy.

        • kemist

          It just as evil as other corporations.

          It is driven by the same limitless greed as them, and the way organizations driven by greed treat human life should not come as a surprise to anyone.

          That greed has destroyed whatever valuable contribution they were making back when they were actually investing in health research rather than marketing. Now they are just getting fat off the profits of their existing products and have done nothing remotely interesting in the last 10 years. I was so disgusted by it and by the way they terminated the very people who made them rich that I just quit to do something else.

          That is why I become very cynical whenever someone starts to go on and on about greed and competition being good things for innovation.

    • Artoo45

      He’s an antivaxx, conspiracy loon as well as a failed actor.

  • endoftheQ

    “The TMer stops repeating the “secret” demonic name, ceaselessly.”. Umm. I did TM. I don’t think 20 minutes, twice a day, 40 minutes if you’re doing TM-Sidhi, qualifies as ceaselessly. OK, Maharishi may have given Hinduism a glossy coat of paint for Western palettes, but let’s leave the demons to Ol’Mother Hubbard’s inept plagiarism of Crowley’s A.A. materials, as Marion Zimmer Bradley pointed out in her unpublished roman a clef. I still think her quote, “I knew L. Ron when he was a small time crook” is truly priceless. 🙂

    • Missionary Kid

      There are two items for my lists. Ol’ Mother Hubbard is now on the list of L. RON HUBBARD NICKNAMES

      “I knew L. Ron when he was a small time crook” is now on the list of THINGS SAID ABOUT LRH

    • Artoo45

      I was suckered into TM back in the 80s (when it was only $1200 to get my Sooper Seekrit Mantra “shiring”). MMH was just as bad as Hubbard in the megalomania department. He wasn’t too bad in the slave department either, bringing hundreds of Pandits over from India to create an “invincible shield” of meditation over the US only to hold their passports so they couldn’t leave the compound. As for the demon comment, not sure what Jon was talking about, the mantras are all pseudo Sanskrit and based on when you were born. At least when you’re the equivalent of an OT, you get to hop around on your ass and pretend you’re flying . . .

      • endoftheQ

        Thanks for the link, appreciate it. I never knew they were importing pandits, although I don’t keep up with the goings on in TM. It totally sucked as a cult, everyone popped in and out as they pleased, no demands for money and there wasn’t much to buy anyway, TM, TM-Sidhi, SCI, a horoscope, the odd massage maybe, a few vits here and there? I will confess, I thoroughly enjoyed the retreats, they had such fantastic places in the UK, Mentmore Towers, Roydon Hall, etc. 🙂

  • villagedianne

    Great, Scientology is going to save Flint. Maybe they will turn one of the assembly-line factories into an Ideal Org. You go in as Raw Meat, and come out 2 hours later an OT8.

    • MissCandle

      You will have to make it longer than 2 hours because otherwise it won’t be worth the $250,000 that it costs.

      • Juicer77

        They WISH it was only $250K!

      • villagedianne

        Yeah, maybe it should be 65 billion years later.

  • ze moo

    Some clam clown got a Flint Michigan idiot {spelled politician} to get an ‘endorsement’ of the WTH. The comments on the story were very good. I loved the comment from ‘wwwxenudotnet’.

    Jon understands the ‘guru-student’ relationship and how Lroon and most other hierarchical religions work. The ‘childlike dependence’ is exactly what every preacher, guru, savant wants out of their flock. Once that mental hooks are set, they can be very difficult to escape. That almost every clam does escape is just an indication of hard it is to permanently take away someones morality while violating every published precept and promise the clampire puts out. Eventually most see the dichotomy and have their WTF moment.

    RE the Oklahoma grand jury: After meeting for 18 months, that grand jury ran out of its empaneled time limit and the poor jurors got to go back to their lives. This doesn’t mean that action won’t be taken later, though given the Georgia example, I am not hopeful The interest of federal officials bodes very well. If one NarCONon location got money thru insurance fraud, you know that the standard operating procedure manual had all NarCONon locations doing the same thing. It will be very fun to finally see ABC News do a $cientology story, especially this one.

    Thanks Jon, I ordered my new copy of Blue Sky and it is supposed to be in this week. I will enjoy reading your prose again.

  • Sid

    Flint Michigan will be borrowing money from Detroit to buy all of the Way to Happiness booklets.

    • kemist

      Money ?

      From Detroit ?

      • Sid

        Okay, that might have been sarcasm. They will probably get Darrel to take out a loan to pay for the booklets.

  • Kim O’Brien

    “While most Scientologists, thankfully, do not need psychiatric intervention”


  • kemist

    Why do people think that the crimes caused by inequality and poverty can be solved by moral codes ?

    Who the fuck cares about moral codes when they don’t have anything or any way to get anything except stealing ?

    How clueless and disconnected do you have to be to think that a few words about morals and public announcements are just what it takes to solve the severe societal problems which only ressources in the hands of those who have none can adress ?

    • Techie

      The Scilons who distribute the “Way to Happiness” think it will work because Ron said it would. I can’t speak for those who believe that Bibles or sermons are the answer. As a scilon I always found it kind of hard to imagine how it would work out in a practical setting. Example – hand an Arabic “Way to Happiness” to the guy who is setting off rockets in the Gaza Strip. Even if he does not immediately torch it as an affront to his religion, which already has a well-developed moral code, what will he do with it? Let’s say he reads it and comes to the part that says “Do not murder.” He doesn’t think of himself as a murderer even when his rockets kill a four year old girl in the school yard. The Israelis killed a relative of his so he wants to kill as many of them as he can. Besides he gets paid well to do it, so he is not going to stop. From a practical viewpoint it is hard to see how a book full of the same bland moral platitudes someone has heard hundreds of times from other sources is going to change the heart of a looter or a rioter. The only way it makes sense is as a way to make more royalty $$$ for the Church.

      • Once_Born

        And, of course, they raise a lot of money for the printing and distribution of material that they actually only pretend to do – for long enough to get some propaganda pictures.

    • Alpha Bates

      Call me naive, but I think at least some of those crimes can be stopped by a sense of moral right and wrong. Not just for the person committing a crime (and not all crimes are “survival crimes”- some crimes are committed by the frustration of being poor, not because you’ll die if you don’t steal a car) but for the people in a position to help. I came from a place where there were a lot of poor people, some that quite literally didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to toss it from.

      My grandfather believed it was morally right to help people in those situations by providing food or other supplies to them, especially during the winter. It was a rural area and many people grew fruits and vegetables and a large majority of men were hunters. There was always a ton of game meat every season. One good sized deer could fill a freezer and have plenty to spare. The older people in that county were adamant about giving away that which was in excess of our need. Riding around the backwoods helping my grandfather distribute food to poor people also let me know how good I had it and shamed me a bit for certain times I was an ungrateful brat.

      Yes, most of them were religious (as were the recipients) and although I’m not a believer in just about anything, I feel this was a great example for me as a kid. It gave me a sense of charity and compassion. The right person with a compassionate moral code can make quite a bit of difference for a lot of people.

      The VMs don’t even practice what Ron preaches. It’s hollow concern rooted in greed and the desire to grind more raw meat through the local Org.

    • grundoon

      Like everything L. Ron Hubbard produced, The Way to Happiness was meant to solve his problems, not yours or society’s.

      The purpose of The Way to Happiness is “PR area control.” It’s meant to confer a kind of camouflage upon those who distribute it — an apparency of being harmless but well-intentioned. It’s meant to position L. Ron Hubbard as a leader of harmless and well-intentioned folk. It’s meant to rope in politicians and public officials who can be positioned as aligned with Scientology because they expressed approval of this bland pamphlet. It serves as a non-religious pretext by which Scientology can worm into places and organizations that disfavor openly religious proselytization.

      Solving societal problems would deprive Scientology of customers. The only poverty L. Ron Hubbard cared about was his own.

      Inequality? Scientology seeks to heighten inequality by making the able more able; by creating a new race, homo novis, superior to homo sapiens; by ranking its members by the Grade Chart, Tone Scale, Ethics Conditions, organizational hierarchy, Sea Org rank, donation status, etc etc etc; and by exalting Hubbard above all.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    “My own response to sociopaths is skepticism and derision. I don’t feel in the least harmed by rudeness. I feel sorry for people who do not know how to communicate in a friendly and encouraging way. Their criticism does not reduce me to tears or self-doubt. But, then, I am now a grown up. Hubbard, on the other hand taught that evil lurks around every corner, and will consume you at a moment’s notice and in a single bite. The world outside the cult must be perceived as hopelessly dangerous, and the member reduced to childlike dependence. Such is the power of phobia induction.”

    Great comments.

    Cranks deserve skepticism and derision.

    Two favorite discussions of Hubbard of mine, are:

    New York Review of Books
    Volume 26, Number 8 ? May 17, 1979
    Quantum Theory and Quack Theory

    By John Archibald Wheeler, Martin Gardner

    “Earlier this year, at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Dr. J.A. Wheeler startled his audience by asking the AAAS to reconsider its decision (made ten years ago at the insistence of Margaret Mead) to dignify parapsychology by giving its researchers an affiliate status in the association. Here is the background to Wheeler’s explosive remarks.”

    snip, jump to Wheeler’s mention of LRH:

    “For every phenomenon that is proven to be the result of self-delusion or fraud or misunderstanding of perfectly natural everyday physics and biology, three new phenomena of “pathological science” spring up in its place. The confidence man is able to trick person after person because so often the victim is too ashamed of his gullibility or too mouse-like in his “stop, thief” to warn others. Happily a journal now exists called the Skeptical Inquirer[4] which provides a list of some of the items of pathological science currently in vogue. Some other references which the reader may want to consult are Gardner’s Fads and Fallacies[5] (“the curious theories of modern pseudoscientists and the strange, amusing, and alarming cults that surround them; a study in human gullibility with topics including flying saucers, Atlantis, Bridey Murphy, Alfred Korzybski, eccentric sexual theories, Dr. W.H. Bates, Wilhelm Reich, L. Ron Hubbard, psionics machines”), Condon’s Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects,[6] and Jastrow’s Error and Eccentricity in Human Belief[7] ”

    – Archibald Wheeler & Martin Gardner 1979 New York Review of Books

    • Well Chuck you got me there:

      “There is only one security, and when you’ve lost that security, you’ve lost everything you’ve got. And that is the security of confidence in yourself; to be, to create, to make any position you want to make for
      yourself. And when you lose that confidence, you’ve lost the only security you can have. … Self-confidence is self-determinism. One’s belief in one’s ability to determine his own course. As long as one has that, he’s got the universe in his pocket. And when he hasn’t got that, not all the pearls in China nor all the grain and corn in Iowa can give him security, because that’s the only security there is.”

      L. Ron Hubbard

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        You’re always saying something is only such and such a way. And you are always wrong! Always!

        All the years I read Hubbard’s bold pronouncements, I’d always have to hold to myself all the exceptions to every one of his rules that raced through my mind!

        So, the only security for me now, is Hubbard is always wrong about his statements that everything is only such and such a way!

        Then another of his “fences”, staying on Jon Atack’s thread here, Hubbard had all manner of study methods, false data stripping, ethics, to deal with people who didn’t stick to Hubbard’s ideas!

        He was so wrong, he built walls around his ideas for his followers to keep themselves stuck in his “islands of sanity!” Another phrase of Hubbard’s, Islands of sanity are what his orgs are supposed to be! Sheesh! .

        • “Certainty, not data, is knowledge.”

          ―L. Ron Hubbard

          • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

            what a massively bad idea!

            • It’s the essence of Scientology, that’s why those pesky Internet kids got mad in the first place. Those little Data huggers.


  • nottrue

    No scientologists on the Flint Michigan city council . Just this……11/2013…….

  • Kim O’Brien

    So..SP’s are way more powerful than OT’s and you can’t BE an OT if there are SP’s around. SO, no matter what you do , say , or how much $$ you spend …SP’s will always be more powerful . Hell …even Jason Beghe’s car accident he had ..when he was like OT bajillion or whatever …was caused by SP’s. Even Tom Cruise can’t battle SP’s …

    Scientologists ….srsly ….what.the.fuck. Call your families

  • Annabelle

    I was in for over twenty years. I’ve been out for two. I smoked a joint two weeks ago.

    • Steph

      Nice! I did the same thing after being out two years. I remember saying to myself….wow, I am REALLY out !

      • richelieu jr

        Apparently joints are like Birthday candles!

        Light one for every year you’re out!

      • Annabelle

        Yea, I was really out! Geez! Ain’t like the 70’s. One toke … whoa Billy! Don’t think I’ll do that again. LOL

        • Qbird

          Funny this. laughing with you two – playin’ in the grass, free, free at last…

    • Techie

      Hope that’s not some kind of required rite of passage, because I will never do it. I still need some brain cells to figure out what’s up with all my extremely techie Techie stuff.

      • doug

        Pot helps recovering cult members open up their rigid mind, making thoughts and access to their subconscious more fluid. I never would have recovered fully from Scientology myself unless I started smoking pot – in fact, it was a phobia of weed and how ‘bad’ it was supposed to be that got me in Scientology in the first place ( I was a ‘stoner’, my mind was all messed up and I am OUT-ETHICS and am destroying my brain and needed HELP!!) – and it was the key to getting me, and many others, OUT of that cultic/phobic mindset.

        Don’t knock pot-therapy until you try it, and don’t buy into the brainwashing propaganda that pot is in any way bad for you – that is a successful mind control operation on your mind if you ‘believe’ that. You don’t HAVE to smoke to recover, but it will sure as hell speed up your recovery process, that’s for goddamn sure.

        • Dibythesea

          Marijuana has many medicinal purposes. When my Father was dying from prostate cancer I asked his doctor if he could tell my Father that marijuana would help his nausea, appetite and his excruciating pain. The doctor said that legally he could not tell my Father to smoke marijuana but ” your daughter is right, it would help you”. This was back in 1997!

          • Peter Robinson

            As a previous regular, and now occasional pot smoker, and someone who believes that it should be legalised, I want to add a few comments to the suggestion that smoking pot is a good way to free the mind of scifiology nonsense.

            That assertion may well be true for some people, but…

            1. Pot can cause harm. Some studies have shown that regular use of high THC strains can bring on or excacerbate psychotic tendencies. his may be expecially true of users who start young i.e. in their teens, when their brains are still developing.

            2. Suggest a read of the following from Science Based Medicine, an excellent blog by skeptical medical professionals, which might disabuse some of the less evidence based memes that have developed regarding marijuana as medicine.


            Personally I believe that moderate pot smoking, for some people, can be a liberating and pleasurable experience, but beware promoting it as a cure all for all.

    • Kim O’Brien

      Come on over to my house ..i was never in and it’s legal in CO 😉 Everyone here has a standing invitation .

  • Anonymous

    Another good post by Jon Atack.

    It can be amusing to think about Scientologists scampering away in fear when they see an SP and there are many videos available where just that, or something similar, is happening.

    It is valuable however to consider Jon’s earlier post here ( ) on the various pieces of The Game as laid out by Hubbard. This view described by Hubbard is not particularly unusual when one looks at the world through the lens of a mass propaganda effort, operated by an intelligence agency. In fact, it is nearly identical to the thought process used by various agencies around the globe (on this planet, heh) who are charged with molding the opinion of various publics about important topics. They use ALL of the same tools employed by the old Guardian’s Office, and now OSA. They are cut from the same cloth. But those agencies are not copying Scientology of course; it is Scientology that is modeled after the mass-scale propaganda and covert op’s machines employed by governments.

    It is also important to realize that the different Scientology “pieces” that Hubbard described, respond differently to various events, based on their actual knowledge of The Game in which they are involved.

    Generally, the people you see scurrying away from SP’s (particularly the ones who seem genuinely afraid, versus the ones who are simply annoyed) are the lower level “broken pieces” in Hubbard’s parlance, down at the bottom of the information ladder, in the thrall of those up above. They believe Hubbard’s nonsense about SP’s on a literal level and fear not only the effect on their “case” but also the “solutions” that may be enforced upon them by the “Players” above them to undo their “PTS” condition.

    Higher up the information ladder in Hubbard’s “Game” are the Players and Game Maker(s). Some of those that are extremely close to the current Game Maker (wee Davey) cross the line between Player and Game maker themselves because of their access to the information only accessible at the highest level, that those below almost never see.

    Wee Davey knows that Ron died in a drug addled, near comatose state, in a Bluebird bus, hiding out in Creston, CA from the Feds, while his supposed Loyal Officers (including his personal physician) were gambling in Lake Tahoe. Curiously, many of the few eye-witnesses that know the first hand details about how Hubbard died have themselves died. Those that are not dead are in hiding or have been disappeared. It is a near certainty that those eye-witnesses still alive are frightened about what only they used know, which is part of why that very information has recently been making its way into top tier publishing efforts such as Lawrence Wright’s book.

    At the Game Maker / senior Player level, (above OSA) folks do not shrink from SP’s (the designation of which is almost ALWAYS political.) Instead, they plot cynical, determined strategies and tactics to render the SP’s
    less dangerous, or worse. When I see an important SP who has intimate knowledge of critical corporate structure planning die of a “heart attack” the first thing I think of is…hmmm…slow, long term, arsenic poisoning? When I see an important SP actor return to drugs and “suddenly “ die of an overdose the first thing I think of is….who “helped” get him back to using drugs? When I see 20+ highly-paid lawyers show up at a courtroom hearing over what really is fairly trivial lawsuit, I think….hmmm…what’s really at stake?

    The point of this post is that while it is fun to laugh at videos showing “broken pieces” [Hubbard’s term] scurrying away from protesting SP’s etc., there are Scientology Players above who are not running away and who are determined to not lose The Game. They are dangerous, determined and evil. They are enabled by a giant pile of money and the defense and support that such can purchase. They know that the real Game is not about “clearing the planet.” That’s just the shore story.

    They should not be underestimated…ESPECIALLY…if that is exactly what they want others to do.

    Because the unpleasant truth is…not only do folks in Scientology argue for their own chains of psychological servitude, people (wogs) in the world at large frequently argue (unknowingly) for information constraints
    thrust upon themselves, by Machiavellian Players and Game Makers higher on the information ladder.

    Hubbard did not invent the world view (Pieces, Players, Game Makers etc.) well described in the earlier
    Atack interview. That manipulative crap has been going on for centuries. Scientology is really just a microcosm and codification of some of the worst of human behavior, courtesy of Hubbard, who was evil and determined enough to make one of the most recent large scale, privately-funded efforts to dominate others.

    • Techie

      Interesting points, Anon. Once at a briefing Dave M. asked himself the rhetorical question “Which is harder to deal with? The external SPs or the Int Base Crew?” He really seemed to be struggling to figure it out, while we were all squirming in our seats hoping desperately he would say the real SPs are worse. Of course it was all a show put on to make us feel bad, the “real SPs” he was talking about were people like Jon Atack! This was before he had the “brilliant” idea of declaring some of us to be SPs and putting them on special assignments or in the “Hole”, somewhere around 2003. I doubt that Dave M. feels even slightly uncomfortable around SPs in reality.

      • Anonymous

        If one stops to think about who the real SP’s “on this planet” might be, there are all sorts of folks who come to mind: mass scale heroin cartel operators, giant arms dealers, organized crime figures etc. Does Scientology ever target them? Of course not…their phoney “tech” would wither in the face of folks like those.

        99% of the people labeled as “SP’s” by Scientology, are ex-Sceintologists who have fled the organization after realizing it was a scam, or never-ins that recognize the pattern of the scam from other similar scams and sought to warn the world.

        Jefferson Hawkins was absolutely correct when he wrote that the SP designation was almost ALWAYS political…it is someone who caught on to the abusive nature of Scientology and sought to warn others.

        SP’s are almost NEVER folks who are truly evil.

        • “You should upgrade your idea of what an SP is. Man, meet one sometime! A
          real one! A real monster….Well, in all the time we’ve been around
          here we only had one SP that I know of. One real SP that was on
          staff…. And I don’t know of another single SP that we’ve ever had on
          staff. Isn’t that interesting. You see all these SP orders and so
          on…Don’t throw it around carelessly, because this is an–a very
          exaggerated condition, SP”

          L Ron

          • Anonymous

            I try not to be rude online, but my answer today Ron is…FUCK YOU!

            • Techie

              That is an actual quote, I think maybe from the “Welcome to the Sea Org” lectures or some Flag Order. But he started finding SPs under every mattress and around every corner later in life.

            • Anonymous

              I well remember the quote….which is completely contradicted by dozens of other quotes from Ron about SP’s…all of which are to be word-cleared and taken as literal truth.

              Scientology is giant, well-indexed pile of bollocks.

            • I do not recognize myself in the utterings you or any on the Internet make.



            • Anonymous

              Irony noted.

            • Missionary Kid
            • OrangySky

              There is a certain brand of sociopath (tragically, I learned this from experience) who lies incessantly, flawlessly, pathologically, without having to stop and think; without taking a breath; without breaking eye contact. LRH was this type of brilliant, instantaneous liar. Just listen to him go on and on. Just read the reports of the people who witnessed his instant answer to any possible question posed of him, no matter how nonsensical that response. The only problem with liars of this ilk is that they are so “in the moment” with their tall tales that they never even slow down to cross-reference today’s lie with yesterday’s lie with last month’s lie on the same topic. Therefore, those who are con artists are best suited to shorter cons, where they can’t get tripped up by this Achilles heel. Its’ quite amazing that the self-limiting aspects of Scientology prevented so many from comparing what LRH said in 1955 to what he said in 1975 and saying “WTF?” Of course, these sociopaths are so talented at lying that they instantly make up lies to explain away their previous lies. It’s really quite astounding – but in the video and internet age, it doesn’t work so well, as there is generally a record of previous lies that don’t match today’s lies that can be dug up at the drop of a hat.

            • “Certainty, not data, is knowledge.”

              ―L. Ron Hubbard

            • Missionary Kid

              “Certainty, not data, is knowledge.” Said the fool.

            • The esscence of being OT

            • Anonymous

              Great post…agree with you on virtually every point!

            • I dispersed these words of wisdom in a lecture on19 July 1966.


  • Mark

    Excellently put, Jon; I always find your psychological insights into Hubbard’s perverted little Weltanschauung penetrating and cogent. You have now confirmed, for me at least, his resemblance to certain members of the order Phthiraptera (refresh):

  • Juicer77

    O/T but this article is an interesting read about police shooting statistics… what lessons can be learned here, and what improvements made?

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    What are they smoking? A religious pamphlet written by a fanatical rascist, sexist, homophobe is going to cure Flint’s woes? St. Louis is being held as an example of how well this pamphlet stops crime? Perhaps there should be a pamphlet given to these politicians entitled “Hubbard’s real way to happiness,” with his quotes on race, gender, sex, fair gaming, and so on.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    A twofer Jon Atack week. Okay, if OSA doesn’t show up this time, Dave might want to check the accounts and take a peek in the hangars.

  • FOTF2012

    Another great Atack post. I’m a fan. As to the “satan/thetan” similarity, I would at that “s/th” is an alternation that occurs between some dialects of Spanish — so it is not far-fetched. (Example, “cazar” — to hunt — and “casar” — to marry — are pronounced the same in “New World” Spanish. But in Castilian the “z” is pronounced as “th” — so you would get /cathar/ vs. /casar/ for the two words.)

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Hubbard, who said he was the anti-Christ I believe, was trying to get enough followers (thetans) to gain his own immortality in the “afterlife.”

    That was interesting on psychs supposedly restimulating us via scent — was that why Hubbard had to have his clothes rinsed in fresh water repeatedly until he could smell nothing on them?

    I imagine Hubbard didn’t like psychs for personal reasons. He seemed to fit the criteria for (damaged) narcissist, paranoia, sociopathy, OCD, various phobias, and other mental problems. Granted, that does not mean he didn’t have some good ideas in the mix, but the best ones I can see were ones he plagiarized from greater minds.

    • FOTF2012

      PS and he also plagiarized some of the worst ideas. His stereotypes of American and South African blacks, for example, not to mention the Chinese and non-Scientologists in general. His use of the word “wog,” which is always used with a negative connotation, most likely comes from “golliwog.”

      If derived from “golliwog,” “wog” would be yet another example of racial stereotyping and insensitivity. See the following link. Hubbard was very much a product of his times — with both good and bad components of Scientology very much reflecting that fact.

      Here’s a picture of a “golliwog” doll which were very popular at one time:

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        I always thought it was Worthy Oriental Gentleman. A sarcastic reference to the Chinese. Forgot where I got that from. Anyone else here researched this ? And where did I get this from?

        • Well dear folks,I use the term WOG sometimes in good fun. I must have picked the word up during my vast and extensive Naval-career



          Maritime usage

          Wog is a shortened
          version of the word pollywog, frequently modified with the word slimy,
          used for sailors during the Line-crossing ceremony on the first time
          they cross the equator. Pollywog or polliwog is an increasingly obsolete
          synonym for tadpole which has been traced back to Middle English.

          This use of
          pollywog goes back to at least the 19th century and thus may be the
          oldest source of wog, although Eric Partridge missed it in his
          Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English (1937).

          Maritime wog is a
          possible alternative ancestor of the racial wog, particularly since
          Partridge does record a usage for presumably annoying Bengali

          “A lower-class
          babu shipping-clerk: nautical: late C.19-20” – Concise Dictionary of
          Slang, Eric Partridge, 1989

          As a term in

          Scientologists, wog is used as a disparaging word for
          non-scientologists.[4] Scientology’s founder L. Ron Hubbard defined wog
          as a “common, everyday garden-variety humanoid … He ‘is’ a body. [He]
          doesn’t know he’s there, etc. He isn’t there as a spirit at all. He is
          not operating as a thetan. The term comes from ‘Worthy Oriental
          Gentleman’, from the days of the British in Egypt. [sic]”[5]

          L. Ron Hubbard
          employed the term frequently in his lectures and writings.[6]

          Since wog is not
          in general use in American English, it is most likely that Hubbard
          picked it up during his period of service as a US naval officer during
          World War II (1941-1945). An alternative source would be England, where
          he resided 1953-1966.

          In Scientology,
          wog lacks racist overtones, even in the UK where that meaning is
          prevalent. From a 2004 Church of Scientology magazine: “I arrived at
          Saint Hill shy, introverted and somewhat out of valence. I had been
          working at a wog job, and I knew my priorities had to change …”[7]

          • OrangySky

            Absolutely disagree. The term certainly has racist overtones even in Scientology. Remember, LRH considered non-Scientologists to be mere homo sapiens, not homo novis. A whole different ‘species’, let alone race. His whole intention was to denigrate the non-Scientologist as the ultimate “other” in the deepest subconscious of his followers. This is what Jon Atack explains so well, above.

            • Captain Howdy

              From the Scientology & Dianetics Technical Dictionary.:
              WOG. 1. worthy Oriental gentleman. This means a commonordinary run-of-the-mill garden-variety humanoid. (SH Spec 82,6611C29) 2. a wog is somebody who isn’t even trying. (SH Spec73,6608C02)

              From Wikipedia:
              Many dictionaries say “wog” derives from the golliwogg, a blackface minstrel doll
              character from a children’s book published in 1895, or from pollywog, a maritime term for someone who has not crossed the equator.

              From The Stranglers:

            • OrangySky

              You always have the right music reference at your fingertips, dear Capt!

            • Captain Howdy

              Thanks and good to see you as always.

            • “Garden-variety humanoids”, which is pretty pretentious from a mundane like him.

        • I’ve always thought that Worthy Oriental Gentleman was invented after the fact by people who wanted to double-down with sarcasm on top of racism.

          • OrangySky

            You’re right RMycroft. It was a made-up reverse of acronym. The Golliwog doll (blackface child’s toy) came from a children’s book and became very popular during the peak years of the British Empire in the 19th Century. The term “Wog” became a British (and thereafter, universal) pejorative term for dark-skinned races (any non-white race, really.) In the film “Lawrence of Arabia,” you can hear the colonial Brits referring to all the Arabs as ‘wogs’; they did the same in India & Hong Kong. LHR would’ve picked up the term as a kid from traveling with his empire-era parents and other adults in the orient.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Nice stats OS.

              ‘And it isn’t even Thursday’ 😉

            • OrangySky

              Hey Bury, miss your face! (And in my world lately, tragically every day seems to be Thursday!) xo

          • Missionary Kid

            Yup. I agree.

        • FOTF2012

          I think that may have come from Hubbard himself — wise old gentlemen, worthy oriental gentlemen, etc. Hubbard redefined English at will, even while tethering the true believers to dictionaries.

      • Missionary Kid

        That looks like a person after regging.

    • ze moo

      Hubbtard was almost certainly seen by psychs while at the navel hospital. His ‘actinic’ eye ‘damage’ and stomach ulcers were indeed ‘psychosomatic’ diseases. Diseases which only Dianetics and $cientology could cure. The psychs probably took one look at him and spotted him for what he was, a malingerer and coward. He didn’t like being caught, sociopaths never do. Though ulcers are now known to be caused by a bacterium, psychological problems can make it much worse.

  • Snippy_X

    Likening Hubbard to the Flatlanders – perfect! It seems people cannot toss out wrong models of our world and instantly adopt a correct model. They have to UN-learn the old model. This seems to be an arduous task for someone steeped in Hubbard’s deliberately confusing model of existence. A while back, some high school educators surveyed physics professors on what concepts they thought should be taught schools. One professor said something along the lines of “Just don’t teach them anything, because you teach them wrong ideas and we have to spend too much time un-teaching them.” I would love to see ex-Scientologists throw out the whole Hubbard package and start fresh from original sources, but I think they have to hunt down those wrong beliefs and destroy them, one by one, before they can move on.

    • Techie

      Very true, as Mark Twain said “It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”. We hold on to our comfortable old beliefs long after they have been proved wrong, partly because it is hard work to self-examine, to test for yourself, to seek out alternate points of view. Far easier to ask yourself “What would Ron do?” than to actually look up current research. Some say that a bad idea lives as long as the people who invented it, even it it is provably false. Remember the Rutherford model of the atom, with the electrons spinning in orbits looking like little planets? It was proven incomplete within a few months after it was proposed, but we still have it as the symbol of the Atomic Energy Commission. And I’ll bet if you asked 100 adults how an atom “looks” you would get a similar description from 80 of them. Science fiction books were written about little men living on the little planets spinning around the nucleus of the atom as though it were a sun. All based on an oversimplification, but it feels true and it is easy to understand, far easier than the probabilistic shells of the Bohr model. It is a long slog to break free of the Hubbard mold, but worth it. There is a whole new world out there! Not to mention compassion, freedom and human dignity. May the sheep look up!

      • Snippy_X

        I think, too, we loose track of where our beliefs originated and unless there is a reason to challenge them, the false ones can lurk in our psyches for decades. Horrifying thought if they originated from an evil source.

    • DeElizabethan

      So true Snippy. I had my head in the sand regarding the organization for over 30 years. For 25 of them I was married and really enjoyed life in the real world. I went back for a year to confront the errors of ways from the past and of course it was worse than ever. Then and only then did I start to look and hunt down the wrong beliefs, the lies and my embarrssment of belonging to a cult. It took full time research on the internet and I slowly had all my questions answered and confidence in myself of doing the right thing. Working against the organization and supporting others, is the right thing to do, since I take responsibility for helping it survive in the past. I know many others have or are doing the same.

      • Missionary Kid

        And now, you’re a reverend. Look at all the wonderful things that have happened to you since you woke up, and you aren’t manipulated into believing something.

        • DeElizabethan

          Ya, sort of a Rev. I now have a certificate made up by Burythenuts saying I am, by the “Cherch of Slimentology”, I did the ministers course in the 70’s but never was ordained. So at a party at THDNE’s I was. How about that!
          Yes, wonderful friends and a free life is such a pleasure. Thanks MK

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            But I spelled your name wrong on the Cert…………
            So I think Davey still owes you a REAL Cert!!!

            And I owe Davey a big FUCK YOU DAVE.

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re too kind. He deserves a long, painful death while in prison.

      • MaxSpaceman

        a stunning amount of time, De Elizbeth, more than 30 years. A lifetime ago.
        you’re recovery out of the Hubbardworld belief system is wonderful to see.

        • DeElizabethan

          Yes and once I connected up through the internet to find the truth, I realize how many I knew before who left and who still have their head in the sand, just living their life, which I do understand now.
          My hopes are for the day they too will feel responsible for what they supported and will come to view and possible speak out. I realize some are very embarrassed as I was to admit it. I have hope that when they finally look and see the people who are speaking out, and with the truth on the news, will not be afraid of OSA, and open up to be free from the sh*t. Because until they do, it will always be there hidden and affecting them in some way, imo and experience.

      • Snippy_X

        Dee, I think you just eloquently described the real bridge to total freedom.

  • Mark

    +++GUMTREE UK ALERT+++ Aaargh! The clams in Sunderland have been posting on Gumtree:

    Eight ads so far: they started posting them late on Friday night so Gumtree staff won’t know about it until the weekend’s over—in this case on Tuesday—Monday’s a public holiday in the UK.

    Flagging Gumtree’s a bit different to CL: you need to click on the little grey ‘Report Ad’ triangle in the top right-hand corner of each one, to call up a window where you can choose to report the ad in several ways. Note that it’s mandatory to put in a reason for reporting it as “Illlegal/Fraudulent”, but with the other categories like “Spam” additional comments are optional—people have had fun writing barbed little critiques of the cult before. The good news is that Gumtree have responded quickly to complaints before, when the Poole mission was being such a pest in the spring—just a bummer having to wait until next week to find out if it’s worked…

    • Mark

      Tee hee! Someone posted some piccies of the Sunderland ‘Fail Org’ at it looks awfully like the Edinburgh lot’s poky premises. And there was a sceptical report at about their rotting Idle Morgue building just a few days ago.

      • aquaclara

        These are the best set of lines:
        Scientology spokesperson: “The buildings we are opening are of high quality and perfectly renovated,” said Mr Wilson. “To achieve this standard requires a lot of planning, time and
        funds. But we are making excellent progress.”

        The people: “Not everyone is convinced. The building – on the edge of a park in central
        Gateshead – is regarded by many as a prominent eyesore.”

        • Mark

          “Making excellent progress” my eye! Of the 62 clams in the North East region recorded in the 2011 census, how many are left now? Even scalping people on Gumtree and CL for copies of The Scientology Handbook at 70 quid a throw isn’t going to foot the bill. Maybe they could apply for an IAS grant? (hollow laughter).

          • aquaclara

            I love the name Richard Pickles. Every time we see an update on this org, and his name appears, I wonder if he’s still in. Surely, he would leave first, right? I mean, he got suckered into buying the building in the first place. Surely by now he realizes this was not a very smart move.

            Did he join the cult because people laughed at him as a kid? Was he worried about his marriage prospects and so, joined the cult to find a sweetie? Did he ever think about hyphenating it so he could be Pickles-Jones or Pickles-Hyde-Atkinson?

            And why did he buy this building? It will use up bucketloads of paint and wallpaper, not to mention lightbulbs and toilet paper. Maybe he bought it to impress a woman in the cult.

            • Mark

              They should turn it into a pickle-factory 😉

            • Espiando

              A couple of years ago, I created food safety programs for a pickle factory, so I know what I’m talking about here. I wouldn’t allow any type of food, pickles or otherwise, to be manufactured in that Fail Org. I’d call the local health authorities ASAP if anyone intended to do so. That place is a death trap, in so many different ways.

              (By the way, I also know about death traps. I did a dinner theater production of “Deathtrap” when I was stationed in Germany.)

            • MaxSpaceman

              someday must write an autobiography, Espi.

    • aquaclara

      Flagged. We shall make them disappear, Mark.

  • dagobarbz

    It’s worth mentioning that Scientologists are urged to purchase these booklets (at a profit to RTC of course) so they can be “handed out for free.”

    These poor suckers contribute in good faith, hoping these books will help people. I’m sure it never occurs that the organization is charging them considerably over what the booklets cost to produce.

    • If they produce them at all. It’s not like people can track their money all the way to the actual booklet handed out, and CoS numbers are usually made up, so there’s no relation of money collected vs booklets printed and handed out.

      Imagine if there was a tracking number system:
      08/22/14 08:12 Booklet arrives Ferguson.
      08/23/14 14:51 Booklet handed out.
      08/23/14 14:52 Booklet dropped on sidewalk.

      • dagobarbz

        Like this?

        Sure were a lot of these littering Times Square when we were there…

  • GSioux

    V.S. Ramachandran is featured in Norman Doidge’s book The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science. Reader-friendly neuroscience at your fingertips. Great read!

  • I have certainly said my part about the suppressive person doctrine and how Hubbard developed it solely to punish those who dared to think for themselves and question his authority and infallibility. It takes a great force of will to break out of that mode of thinking when you are in Scientology and see through Hubbard’s paranoia and self-serving “technology”.

    So on a lighter note, I thought I’d instead highlight today something good that I did which I encourage others to do as well. The ALS Ice Water challenge may be viewed by some as the “flavor of the week” but I think that anything we can do to provide real help in any direction is good news. And personally, I feel like I’m doing more good in contributing to this cause then I ever did in my 27 years in Scientology.

    I challenged Marc Headley and Jeffrey Augustine, too. I hope they take me up on it.

    • Jgg2012


    • aquaclara

      Ha ha ha ha. This is fabulous, Chris. Love your cheery grin, and your challenge to the esteemed fellow bad asses Mr. Headley and Mr. Augustine.
      The Bunker awaits the challenge outcome….with breathless anticipation.

    • Annabelle

      LOL You are the first one I’ve seen dump the water on themselves. You are the #1Nerd! Well, done.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Congratulations:) I thought that my favourite ALS challenge was Patrick Stewart’s. But now Yours is my favourite:) Now who will dare to challenge Tony Ortega? 😉

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I would………..but first………….I would have to get cold…………and wet.

        Fuck that………….How many zeros do ya’ll want on the check?!!!

    • Chee Chalker

      Here’s hoping Headley challenges cob. I imagine the water would roll off the coifed head….much like water off ducks back

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Looking at these videos, one thing is clear. Most people are crap a dumping water on their heads. Many have off centre dribbles, some miss entirely.
      Chris, you get a 10 out of 10 for technique!
      No minions hired to dump water for you here!
      Also, the first video I have seen where ALS is explained.
      If I am ever in MN, I am buying you a beer!

  • Bob Gravlin

    So as I have often thought, LRH and his outfit are a bunch of scaredy pantses who can be knocked down by any SP or PTS and must spend their lives hiding just as LRH ended his life in hiding. Incidentally, I have not been posting as much here lately as I am busier and spending less time reading about such stupid foolishness as SCN but thanks to those who are keeping up with monitoring and trying to bring down this stupidity.

    • Artoo45

      Hey, who said you could have one of those “life” things?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Someone was looking for a secondary reference to the bit about broken pieces, pawns, players, etc. This one is in context of Ron changing the game but not letting any of the players other than the GO (now OSA) in on it.

    “Our war has been forced to become ‘To take over absolutely the field of mental healing on this planet in all forms.’ That was not the original purpose. The original purpose was to clear Earth. The battles suffered developed the data that we had an enemy who would have to be gotten out of the way and this meant that we were at war … By showing him to be brutal, venal and plotting we get him discarded. Our direct assault will come when they start to arrest his principals and troops for crimes (already begun).

    Our total victory will come when we run his organisations, perform his functions and obtain his financing and appropriations. LRH

    “By the mid-1970s he had become firmly convinced that psychiatry was more than just an Earthly problem. He had already alluded to the role of psychiatrists in Xenu’s genocide in 1968’s OT 3 and his 1977 script “Revolt
    in the Stars” (based on OT 3). While in hiding in Washington, D.C. around 1975, he began secretly to research what he believed was the underlying secret of the universe: a cosmic war between the “Soldiers of Light” and
    the “Soldiers of Darkness”. He characterised people as being either “players”, “pieces” or “broken pieces”. Only a small number are the players, these being the Soldiers of Light and Darkness, manipulating the rest to achieve their ends.”

    Piece of Blue Sky, ties in the game pieces and psychiatrists and SP’s”

    “In the mid-1970s while in Washington, DC, Hubbard inaugurated a secret project to find out all he could about the “Soldiers of Light” and the “Soldiers of Darkness.” The notion that people are born either good or evil and engage in a cosmic spiritual war can be found in Zoroastrianism, and in the Dead Sea Scrolls of the Essenes, whence it found its way into certain Gnostic Christian sects. In the early 1950s Hubbard had talked about people being “players,” “pieces” or “broken pieces” in the “game” of life. This concept is fundamental to Scientology. He later spoke of “Big Beings” existing in a ratio of one to eighteen compared to “Degraded Beings.” Separately from this estimate, he said that Suppressives make up two and a half percent of the population, and Potential Trouble Sources (PTSes) who are in their sway a further 17.5 percent. He categorized some people simply as “robots,” incapable of decision. In short, there are a small number of “players,” some Soldiers of Light, some Soldiers of Darkness. They are engaged in an eternal battle, using the “pieces” and “broken pieces” to achieve their ends.”

  • Mark

    +++UK ALERT RED-X ALERT+++ Just discovered a nasty little nest of ads from the Sunderland $cibots on Craigslist as well, dammit. Please flag them if you have the time:

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    We in the Church of Scientology don’t stop thoughts or anything else. We embrace and honor all religions. One can be a Scientologist and a Christian or a member of any other religion. Sylvia Stanard said it all so eloquent;y during her recent talk at Chautauqua.

    As part of our new “Scientology Interfaith Project” we have invited Evangelist Johnathon Bell to give Bunkerites a short and uplifting spiritual talk. We selected Mr. Bell as our Interfaith speaker as we feel he best embodies and personifies the Tone Level of the Church of Scientology in 2014.

    Please do refresh:

    • Mark

      I never knew there was a tone-level labelled “Shouty-Screamy”.

      • FromPolandWithLove

        That’s my tone level in days of PMS ;p

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Mark, we are sending Jonathon Bell to your home to hector you until such a time as you stop attacking Scientology.

        • Mark

          Seems like a nice boy…

      • Science Doc

        I just realized that Tone is actually a complex number with both a real axis (-40 to +40) and an imaginary axis (-40i to +40i). Shout-Screamy is +1.1i. You’re welcome.

        • Mark

          Now why didn’t Tublard think of that—one-track mind?

        • Missionary Kid

          Yup, of course. They’re all imaginary numbers.

    • Espiando

      Just out of curiosity, since Scientology is the authority over everything, has COB RTC ruled on how we should refer to Capaldi!Doctor? Is he Twelve, Thirteen, or Fourteen? Some of us regard this as very important to know.

    • Captain Howdy
    • Chee Chalker

      This may be a bit too obscure a reference, but its Jeffrey de la Costa from Reno 911….”Georgia Engel took a dump on my setee!”

    • Sarah James

      I would love to see and hear his reaction to a spider.

      “It don’t matter.”

    • Baby

      OMG… What an inspirational speaker he is.. I bet he had them all mesmerized. I love when people shout at me. Especially preachers.

      and then during a nice sermon he starts ranting about Kennedy.. Certified NUT Case!

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    I drove through Flint about six hours ago. It looks the same.

    • 1subgenius

      Did you really?

      • Missionary Kid

        That’s called a real drive-by.

        • 1subgenius

          In what way?

          • Missionary Kid

            I was being silly. It was really a drive-through.

            • 1subgenius

              Kinda distracting, don’t you think?
              I was looking for an answer to the question. For a reason.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Well, yes, I did. I drove from Chicago to Canada and Flint was on the way.

        I first went there with my son about eleven years ago, just before New Years, on a trip across the USA. Both my son and I had seen the Michael Moore movie and he was expecting some sort of cross between Hiroshima and the Gaza strip. In fact, it looked like most of the cities we had been through, or as Popeye put it, “Not too pretty, not too ugly”. With respect to Michael Moore, the people of Flint and the people of Michigan, I know that area has had more troubles than most of the country in recent decades, but really, we didn’t see much of it.

        Whatever the Scientologists are going to do there is not going to matter at all. I am no economist but most of the cities around the Great Lakes have suffered from industry moving to places where taxes are lower and labour is cheaper. There is no quick fix for that. Auditing, TRs, Word Clearing and understand all eight dynamics won’t mean a thing.

        When we drove through earlier in the day, the light of my life got hold of one of the free Real Estate Magazines. You could get a house for $35,000. That sort of house doesn’t exist in Toronto. It would be knocked down for the land. For a hundred thousand you could get a nice three bedroom bungalow, which would cost 500 or 600 thousand here. For 400,000 you could get a palace. I don’t know what palaces cost here– I can’t afford one. That is all I have to know about them.

        So, it is a small world and a big blog. You would think that somebody here would have gone through Flint recently and that somebody was ME.

        EDIT: Tolbert and Biddle are idiots. Auditing won’t help them either.

        • beauty for ashes

          what’s also interesting i read recently that because of the real estate market being the way it is flint is a goldmine of historical architecture. i hope that that helps them moving forward.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I was completely unaware of that.

            On the trip we first drove towards Port Huron then, because of road construction and awful traffic we decided to cross the border at Detroit. As I drove my beloved kept saying, “There is an abandoned house, there is another, there is another”. Toronto doesn’t have abandoned houses. I couldn’t look over but I had seen it before. Detroit had a population of about 2 million about the time Scientology was a-bornin. Today it is a city of only 800,000. That leaves room for a lot of abandoned architecture. Some of those dilapidated and destroyed homes were once beauties. It is a crying shame.

            One of my uncles lived in Detroit where he worked for Ford Motor as a tool and dye man, a good fifty years ago. Born in Montreal, he loved Detroit and saw America as the land of opportunity.

            In 1970 Detroit had a vibrant artist’s community. I wanted to see what was going on there so I hitchhiked the 200 or so miles from Toronto. It was already a shadow of its former self. The Detroit riots of 1967 had brought it’s problems to international attention. But all the people I met were friendly and trusting. They were good to me without exception.

            I hope the region comes back but Scientology isn’t going to help it. It will just suck out more money and delude the good people who remain.

            I urge Tolbert and Biddle to tape copies of Hubbard’s rules for happiness to their backs, so that the unemployed, marginalized, hungry, and poorly sheltered people of Flint will have something to read when they come up behind them to rob them.

            • beauty for ashes

              i ‘think the article was on msn if you’re interested. i’m embarassed to say i don’t know how to post a link!

            • Baby

              Oh Beauty..Nothing to be embarrassed about. We all had to learn at one time!

              Ok look at the top of your computer. .( Not top of this page just look up now) Do you see where it says beside the blue square John attack How Scientolog….X

              Underneath that there is a long skinny rectangle you will see

     etc. That shows you what page you are on. ( It’s just an address of the page you are on called a Url..

              Now look at your computer mouse. There are 2 sides. Think of the right side as a magnet..You are going to take the mouse up to Tonys address and click on right side.

              You will see the words in a rectangle that comes up

              paste and go


              You will see this on every page you go to.

              Minimize this page. Beauty.. ( at the rt hand at top of your computer. there is a minus box click on it . I’m not talking down to you..You might know this.. sorry..

              Go to the page with the article and go to the address at top like I said. and Rt click will come up and click on COPY. ( cause it is picking up the link you want to copy)

              Now got to the page that you minimized on the side.. and click on right side of mouse and it will release the address when you click paste! ( releasing the magnet)

              It sounds difficult, but it is so easy. All you have to do is do it a couple of times and you will get the hang of it. Good Luck Beauty!

            • beauty for ashes

     since you took the time i had to try. couldn’t find the original article, but this is a photo essay on abandoned houses in the area. that was really nice of you baby, let’s hope i can remember this!

            • Baby

              Oh Yay you did it Beauty..woo hoo.. Oh you’ll remember it.. The more you do it, it just becomes second nature.

            • 1subgenius

              Michael Moore would shit his pants if he knew about this.

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              I would love to see a Michael Moore movie on Scientology. It might not be as good as Mark Bunkers but it would get better distribution. I think we would see a few more people at the next protest if Moore took a whack at it.

          • 1subgenius

            Couple three different fortunes there, like most towns, with good, bad and horrible areas.

        • Espiando

          Why you left Chicago for anywhere else beats the shit out of me. I’ve left numerous times, but I’ve always come back. It’s just that fucking great.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I am from Toronto and I was visiting Chicago on a motor trip. I like it too. I went with a dear friend. We joked about selling our homes in Toronto and buying one of those Frank Lloyd Wright houses in Oak Park. Maybe one day we will.

            • Espiando

              Buy one of the Wrights in Hyde Park. That way, you’ll be close to a university that’s so magnificent, I graduated from there.

          • Missionary Kid

            I left in 1952. I can remember the snow being chest high, and the humid and sticky summers. I never moved back.

            Of course, I was 7.

        • 1subgenius

          I was there about a month ago, and have been there regularly and numerous times.
          No sense in discussing it (Flint), except to say its Detroit, without the panache.
          Was curious if you were local.
          Very disturbing that some in government there don’t have a clue.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I’m almost local. I am a half-day drive away.

    • MaxSpaceman

      no phone snapshots I’m guessing. eh?

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        No, I was too busy driving. I gave a longer answer (which I am sure can be found near this) about my drive through.

        If the city council wants to turn their troubled city into a real, honest-to-goodness, world-class mess, they should urge the townsfolk to get involved in Scientology. That’ll push them over the edge. Biddle and Tolbert obviously don’t get out much.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Castaneda: “Don Juan uses unseen powers to help Carlos start his stalled car.”
    Hubbard: OT powers attested to by scilons, including- easily finding that illusive to everyone else parking spot

    Castaneda: “And he tries to show him how to be a warrior — a being who, like an enlightened Buddhist, has eliminated the ego, but who, in a more Nietzschean vein, knows he’s superior to regular humans, who lead
    wasted, pointless lives.”
    Hubbard: everyone not a scilon is a ‘wog’

    For Carlos, see Salon .com “The Dark Legacy of Carlos Castaneda”

    • Barbara Angel

      Could be just a simple case of Peyote v Pinks & Greys? Or just two mad bastards….
      Loved the Carlos Castaneda books especially with a little puff or two of medical marijuana. lol

  • beauty for ashes

    hey all you smarty pants people- can someone answer me a question? i’ve been watching the clearwater hearings on mark bunkers’s youtube site. and r2-45 keeps being referred to. as i remember, the first time i heard of r2-45 it was in reference to commiting suicide. but in other references it seems to intimate murder. i’d love it if someone could link me to the actual policy defined, or explain it ? 🙂 much appreciated!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Murder……….Not suicide

      • Espiando

        And it’s always been only murder. Personally, I prefer Auditing Process R2-Eight Inches Of Highly-Sharpened Stainless Steel. I’ve tested it out on numerous lower lifeforms, and since I’m certain that Scientologists are lower than cows, pigs, sheep, and goats, I’m certain it’ll work on them.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I am so glad you are on meds.
          And I love you 😉

          • Eileen

            Glad he is on meds; scary.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              So is the Goat!

        • beauty for ashes

          thanks, my memory is atrocious. thanks for the clarification.

        • Captain Howdy

          Spend some time on the kill floor?

          • Espiando

            You have to as a meat inspector. It’s a requirement. That’s why I have absolutely no fear of bloodshed and spilling guts, or telling people that I have no fear of it. That tends to put fear into them. That’s the way I like it.

        • Ethics Officer

          Is that because you consider Scientologists so low or is it because you are turned on by sheep and goats and therefore consider those so high….?

          • Espiando

            It’s because I consider you and yours lower life forms than ungulates. When I repeatedly told Marcotai that he fucked goats, I implied that it was the goat who was committing bestiality.

            Now fuck off. One more attempt to Dead Agent me and I will find you. And I will use the auditing process described above on you.

      • DeElizabethan

        Reminds me of a time when I was at Flag doing ethics cycles for months. I was visibly distraught, disturbed and one member who handles public offered me a free session. Turned out it was a listing process, the only auditing, (“not auditing you”) I got while there. She went through about 100 or more items, then supposedly the longest read she got, or whatever, was “Gone on too long”. Well I laughed then for two days, as everything had gone on too long in my mind and it was a correct indication, and thought of ending cycle on many things. However, even tho maybe I should’ve thought about my life, I didn’t connect seriously with that thought.
        Later I wondered if they gave me that so I would end something, like my life, since they knew they had all the money they would get from me. Well, I ended a lot of things, mostly being annoyed with their control and handling, but stubbornly stuck to end the ethics cycle. Months later I left.
        End of story, tho one can only just imagine all I thoughts I had. Best and only session in 25 years and I should thank them, tho this was not their intention, no doubt.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          This is why You is My MA!
          You are way too smart for the bullshit.

          You and I may both be a bit scatterbrained………….but we are smarter than the average BEAR! (inside joke/)
          Muah mom!

          • DeElizabethan

            Thanks me girl!
            Yes, smarter than the average Bear, haha!

            • Baby


          • Baby

            Hey.. HEY.. hhahahhaha ..

        • Baby

          That is funny Rev. hahahha Honest to God..

        • grundoon

          “Later I wondered if they gave me that so I would end something…”
          Seems unlikely. It was just the next thing on the long boring repetitious C/S 53 list.

          “Has something gone on too long?” is item 1M, the 255th of 274 items, in the C/S Series 53 list, “the basic prepared list used by auditors to get a TA up or down into normal range or to correct case outnesses.” The handling for “gone on too long” and similar items is, “Find out what. Clean up any protest. Rehab to F/N or Date/Locate.”

          • DeElizabethan

            Thanks for the details, actually the list was going on too long too, haha.
            I wasn’t on any auditing lines and I must have blown down a ton on that one, after indicated. No further handling was done or necessary and I wouldn’t have done further if asked.

      • beauty for ashes

        thanks just read. real disturbing. i think i may have confused it with end cycle. i remember who ever was telling the story saying that he was working with osa and if he got caught in this particular operation to kill himself. can’t remember who it was. i have a real case of fuzzy brains today!

        • Steven Fishman

          • He is still alive ?b I must have a one on one talk about that with Little Dave.


    • Helen Van Patterson Patton

      Tony touched on it here

      Wikipedia has a decent entry on it–just search for R2-45

      What I always found the most chilling was seeing it on an HCO Ethics order

      • DeElizabethan

        That’s great, thanks Helen.

      • This copy is marked as court evidence, so any complaint of copyright violation, blahblahblah, can probably go take a flying frolic through a rolling donut:

        Say, “They are fair game”. When was one of the “cancellations” of Fair Game?

        • Helen Van Patterson Patton

          The use of the term “fair game” was cancelled in 1968.

          • Baby

            Isn’t that a joke.. What an Evil Evil cult.

          • 0tessa

            How clever has this been worded. They stopped the ‘declaring’, but not the ‘treatment’.
            So, shooting somebody dead is still permitted, but it may not be announced.

          • Missionary Kid

            Only the usage of the term. The policy is still in effect.

          • Sneering Cyril

            That’s because the intergalactic war lord Xenu lost a game of monopoly on his home planet and since then L Round Hubtubs tried to make the game fairer by being a big greedy guts cheat.

        • Baby

          They cancelled fair game the same way they cancelled disconnection!

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Exteriorization by shooting the person with a 45.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I exteriorized this morning.
        But it was mostly due to really fucking great eggs and columbian coffee.

        • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

          Beats a bullet in the head any day.

        • DeElizabethan

          Maria Pia Gardin. Meanwhile get my turkey thigh, sweet potatoe and cranberry.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I watched this last night and it broke my heart to see the cult destroy a person. I no longer care if,Debbie cook was called a lesbian in a cold vat of water.

        • Captain Howdy

          I’ve already exteriorized 3 times today…without coffee!

          • Gross!

            • Captain Howdy

              I’m so full of shit my eyes are turning brown. At least that’s what my Pa use to tell me.

      • DeElizabethan

        I think the 45 is used to just mean- Kill the Person, self or others, no matter how.

        • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

          Here are a few words on the subject from wikipedia. They go on about it but this is the start of the article and contains most of the very relevant information:

          R2-45 is a Scientology auditing process created by L. Ron Hubbard. The process of R2-45 specifically pertains to shooting the target with a Colt M1911 pistol, causing the victim’s “thetan” to leave the body (exteriorization). In 1952 during a meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, Hubbard demonstrated the process of R2-45 by firing a shot at the floor.[1][2] In a lecture of 1958, Hubbard comments that “Death is not the same as clearing but there is, remember, R2-45. It’s a very valid technique. A lot of people have used it before now.” [3]“R2-45: AN ENORMOUSLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR EXTERIORIZATION BUT ITS USE IS FROWNED UPON BY THIS SOCIETY AT THIS TIME.”—L. Ron Hubbard, The Creation of Human Ability[4]
          (all caps as per the original)

          While representatives of the Church of Scientology have publicly acknowledged that “Auditing Process R2-45” refers to “someone being killed and [their spirit] leaving the body”, they insist that it was presented as a “jest” or “joke” by Hubbard.”[2][5] In the transcript for the lecture “Exteriorization”, in which Hubbard refers in passing to R2-45, a footnote refers to the process as being “used humorously”.[6]

          However, critics of Scientology have pointed out that Hubbard also used it in apparently non-humorous contexts. On March 6, 1968, Hubbard issued an internal memo titled “RACKET EXPOSED,” in which he denounced twelve people (Peter Goodwin, Jim Stathis, Peter Knight, Mrs. Knight, Nora Goodwin, Ron Frost, Margaret Frost, Nina Collingwood, Freda Gaiman, Frank Manley, Mary Ann Taylor, and George Wateridge) as “Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life,” and ordered that “Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45.”[7][8] Former Scientologist Bent Corydon wrote that in late 1967 at Saint Hill, he personally received a copy of an order naming four former Scientologists as enemies and “fair game” and ordering any Sea Org member who encountered them to use R2-45.[9][10]

          • Captain Howdy

            So if you use a Colt M1917 the voodoo don’t hoodoo?

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              It was the gun of his time. There was even a 1950s comic book called Colt 45. My day was the M-16. For my son it’s the gllock.

            • Captain Howdy

              Actually, colt .45 is a caliber(s) not a specific gun. The colt 1911 and the colt m1917 are both .45 acp (automatic colt pistol). The classic colt cowboy pistol is .45 LC (long colt).

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Well, that’s the last time I trust a Dell comic for information about Scientology.

    • Qbird

      ol’ Ron mentions it in this DOX

  • Exterrier

    Gee, I had the “brain” discussion just last night with a friend who is a fellow ex, but is still, apparently a Ronboid. It is a religious belief. Scientologists just don’t believe they have or need brains, cus Lround said so.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for August 23: *refresh for images*

    Tony: US rank #17,935 – up 220 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 20,188)
    scientology: US rank #62,073 – down 408 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 62,441)

    Difference: 44,138 – 628 more than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 42,252)

  • New Scientology status: Bankrupt with Honours.

    • Missionary Kid

      Oh, geez. *Laughter* Unfortunately, that’s too true.

    • With Sugar on Top.

  • Peter Robinson

    Such an excellent piece by Jon A. As a never in it is often difficult to get ones head around some of what he writes about because of a lack of understanding of some of the scifiology/Loony Rotten Huckster terminology and nonsense, but this is as clear as can be.

    If one defines religion, as I do, as faith without evidence, then scifiology can validly be called a religion and is just as useless as the rest of them. Fascinating though inevitable that scifiology, like all religions, recognises that reason destroys their nonsense. Believe that Augustine, Aquinas and Loyola all predated the Loony Rotten Huckster in saying so.

  • Pierrot

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    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls.
    We picked 26 new ads for Saturday evening, (Florence advertising in Albuquerque? I don’t understand)

    Re-flag the last 3 days from Thursday 21st if you have some spare time (10 minutes).

    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty Dodo

  • “And none of the tools of the Tech will save you. You will never be OT enough to overcome the SP. ”

    And there you have it. But a clam is someone who just doesn’t see that L Ron Hubbard turned his victims into wrecks not into superpeople.

    • Qbird

      You know Jens, it is extremely disconcerting to me that a human being such as Hubbard – a hideous man, inside & out – could have done what he did… was so successful at… got away with… making a shit load of money off of using & abusing other human beings.
      It just isn’t right. (

  • DodoTheLaser

    Thanks for staying in touch with us, Jon.
    You write and speak from your heart.
    Great photo, btw.

    • Gerard Plourde

      I would add that Jon’s writing also shows wisdom and understanding that transcends Scientology.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Most definitely.

  • Edward Whalley

    I know that they phear me. But I recently got an interesting cognition….

    Why does LRH hate perfumes and scent so?

    Perfume and incense is a part of many religious practices, including the O.T.O, which uses oils and smoke in intricate and subtle ways (you haven’t really lived as a Thelemite if you haven’t puzzled out what incense you ought to use in a rite to be held during a time of war on the fourth hour of Thursday…and that’s an easy one).

    Jack Parsons was not only accomplished in this (and many other) arts, but he had a liking for cologne for a much more pragmatic reason: he was almost constantly covered in sweat. Between heavy drinking, drugs, exposure to nitroglycerine and a host of other chemicals, his hard-working excretory system churned out superfluous water by the bucketful, causing him to use large amounts of talcum, deodorant, and plain old “Number 6” in amounts that left casual acquaintances wondering if he wasn’t a gay man cruising for partners. (Well, he was bi. Just a little. Not too much, though. But he kept an open mind, and his mouth shut.)

    Could it be that the mere thought of perfume, with all its associations, might make our Ellerich a bit queasy?

  • scott autry

    “communists or capitalists” – Uh, you can only go so far with this one. Same as if you said “democracy advocates or fascists”…

    The Cold War was not merely a fabricated pseudo-struggle devoid of any reality. Nor was the very real ideological struggle that saw the birth of democracy in the 18th and 19th Centuries. Nor the struggle between Segregation and real democracy in the South and elsewhere within American society during the Civil Rights Era.

    Sometimes mere ideas are based on real-world realities – and whether one triumphs or not —- means something terribly important.

    Is Scientology just another religion/thought system? If it became just as popular as Christianity in American society, would the nation be pretty much the same?

    How well did the tens of millions dead under Stalin and Mao and other communist dictators fare? Compared to even the real oppressed minorities in the United States or Western Europe during the same time period?

    Ideas can kill – whether they need a human finger on the trigger or not…

  • Hover Sauce

    I’m gonna put it this way:
    Legalized Scientology does more harm than legalized marihuana