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Jon Atack: Did Mary Sue Hubbard Doubt Scientology’s Key Experience?

Mary_Sue_Hubbard_LRHJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and on Saturdays he’s helping us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet.

Jon, you had an interesting anecdote for us this week about Mary Sue Hubbard. She was L. Ron Hubbard’s third wife, and they had four children together. They were married in 1952, and she was an enthusiastic Scientologist and helped him run his movement, including the years from 1967 to 1975, when they ran Scientology from sea. But you say that didn’t always go smoothly?

JON: Otto Roos was the first OT VIII and one of only five Class XIIs trained by Hubbard, personally. While he was Hubbard’s auditor, aboard ship, he overheard Mary Sue loudly castigating her husband. Imagine, the wife of the Founder, the Deputy Commodore and Controller of the Guardian’s Office, was shouting at the Old Man of the Sea Org and calling him a fraud and a charlatan!

THE BUNKER: That is startling. Let’s explain a few of those terms. While Hubbard ran Scientology from the yacht Apollo in the early 1970s, the crew was busy with a lot of auditing and training to be auditors. Otto Roos was one of a few auditors who was trained personally by Hubbard to the highest rating, Class XII. He also reached the highest level of spiritual advancement, Operating Thetan Level Eight, when it was released years later. Mary Sue, meanwhile, was not only the wife of Scientology’s founder, who called himself “Commodore,” but she also ran the Guardian’s Office, the notorious spy network of Scientology. But in spite of her high position, she called Hubbard a fraud?

JON: Eventually, Hubbard placated Mary Sue by asking how he could prove to her that Scientology really worked. There wasn’t a moment’s hesitation: Mary Sue had never been “exterior with full perception.” So, poor Otto was ordered to run every exteriorization process he could find (about 90 of them existed, if I remember rightly), until Mary Sue popped out of her head. I don’t remember for how many weeks this elaborate farce lasted, but in the end, Mary Sue decided that she would rather not go “exterior” than have to continue with these absurd “processes.”

THE BUNKER: One of the primary goals of Scientology is pursuing the state of “exteriorization.” Hubbard said that we are thetans, immortal beings of immense age who have lost knowledge of our true selves. Through Scientology processing, we can regain that perception of our ancient, spiritual selves, and with that knowledge leave our meat bodies — go “exterior” from our physical containers. The ultimate goal of Scientology — to be an “operating thetan” — promises to give us the ability to “exteriorize with full perception” so we can wield great powers and control as bodiless spirits. But Mary Sue never got there? How disappointing.

JON: It was only a few years later that Mary Sue confessed her guilt and took a prison sentence to protect her husband, who to his death remained an “unindicted co-conspirator” in the Guardian’s Office prosecutions following the FBI raid of Scientology in 1977. We are told that Scientology leads to success in any walk of life, but Hubbard hardly exemplifies the perfect spouse. Although Mary Sue had given away her liberty to protect his own, Hubbard refused to even see her again. Her letters to him were censored — with a razor blade — to make sure that there was nothing negative in them. The Great OT had to be protected, it seems, from his own most loyal follower. The Source of Scientology cast off his wives — and his children — like so much unwanted baggage. It is hard to imagine such narcissism. And it’s dangerous to innocently believe that such a man would really be concerned for the welfare of anyone but himself, let alone devote his life to liberating mankind. But then, you could hardly collect a billion dollars by promising people quick hypnotic highs and humiliating slavery.

THE BUNKER: Jon, we haven’t heard this story before. Is this something Roos told you directly?

JON: I don’t think I’ve told this story publicly before. I interviewed Roos at length in 1984. I confirmed Mary Sue’s doubts with others who were on the Apollo and witnessed it. Mary Sue was noted for disagreeing with Hubbard and occasionally airing her views loudly.

THE BUNKER: Another fascinating look at Scientology history from Jon Atack. Thank you!

 
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It’s AD 63 And Scientology is Exploding!

We hope you’re as excited as we are to be alive during this incredible period, when Scientology makes such amazing strides to clear the planet. This has to be the biggest weekend for the Church of Scientology in 20 years — since the “War is Over” event in Los Angeles — and we can hardly contain our enthusiasm.

Images are coming in from around the country, but especially from Flag — Clearwater, Florida — where the big events are taking place. Keep an eye on the action in our comments section. We’re seeing great things that our readers are bringing in. We have a few pics to show you from what our tipsters are sending us via e-mail.

This first item comes from one of the outer orgs — we’re not going to say from where — and you can see how the Golden Age of Technology Phase II is being rolled out in the most enticing way possible, like it was a top-secret program that actually delivered something besides ten new ways to spend money on making a needle move on a sweat-meter!

 
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Meanwhile, one of our tipsters clued us in that there’s a church member who has been making multiple trips to Clearwater lately in order to take high-level courses, take interesting photos of events there, and then post them in a public spot on the Internet. As long as they’re there, we decided to grab a few of them. In this first one, you can see the fancy little pool outside the Sandcastle, where high-level members go for OT training!

 
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In this next shot, you get a sense for the lengths Scientology goes to make its members feel like they’re part of something BIG! We think this was some kind of GAT II training that was being done before its launch, but we’re not sure. Our commenters will no doubt set us straight…

 
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Scientologists love pool parties.

 
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Another fancy party to loosen up the faithful for a wallet grab.

 
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Last night, the first of the big events began. Joe Childs and Charlie Frago at the Tampa Bay Times reported on all the folks showing up in their finest clothes and getting out of limos to stand in lines to be checked in. They put the capacity of the big tent at 5,500.

Meanwhile, over at Mike Rinder’s blog, there was a fascinating account of what the “Golden Age of Technology Phase II” is actually turning out to be — and it is as underwhelming as we were all expecting.

Specifically, according to Rinder’s tipster, Scientology leader David Miscavige announced that he had “recovered” lost wisdom of L. Ron Hubbard through “Board Technical Bulletins” which had previously been scrapped. Hubbard died in 1986, and he is Source — still the only legitimate origin of any Scientology processing. But the BTBs were technical bulletins that had been issued into the early 1990s by members of the boards of some Scientology entities.

Rinder points out that it was Miscavige who ruthlessly cancelled out the BTBs during the period when he came up with the first Golden Age of Tech. So now, his big reveal is that he’s determined that the BTBs, even though they came out after Hubbard’s death, were actually put together with material that Hubbard had earlier told someone, or something. Says Rinder

Well hallelujah, we have come full circle. NOW the BTBs are OK as long as they have [Miscavige’s] blessing. Doesn’t He realize that He has become exactly what He supposedly despised. Check back and see what He said about David Mayo. But then, at the time, Mayo was the arbiter of what was “LRH” and what was not. At least Mayo WAS a highly trained auditor, trained personally under LRH and was L. Ron Hubbard’s auditor and held the post of Senior C/S International…. So Mayo’s say-so on what was and was not LRH and what was and was not “on-Source” had a higher likelihood of accuracy than Voldemort’s.

More than one observer noted that there was NO Senior C/S International in attendance at the most important event in the history of all universes. Hmmmm

 
What that last line means — apparently, none of the top international management has been let out of “The Hole” to be trotted out for PR reasons. No Heber? No Guillaume? But this is the biggest thing in the history of the universe!

Hey, let us know what you’ve seen in Clearwater. Post your pics in the comments or send us an e-mail!

 
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SUPER POWER COUNTDOWN: 1 Day to Go!

With Scientology’s “Super Power Building” opening this Sunday, we’re counting down the days with some of the wild schematics of contraptions that were planned for the space-aged fifth floor.

Well, here it is, our favorite contraption that is planned for the building, and a legend here in the Underground Bunker — the Oiliness Table!

We first noticed it in a floor plan that placed it near the pain and pressure stations…

 
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And then we found this full-color rendering of what the station will look like, including that golden yellow liquid!

 
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And here’s another look at that tabletop…

 
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And we found this schematic of some oil dispensers that populate one part of the tabletop…

 
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We are so envious of the wealthy Scientologists who will get their oiliness tested on this contraption. For us, the oiliness table has become symbolic for Scientology’s epic Super Power adventure. And tomorrow, the SP era begins! Hip, hip, hooray!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 16, 2013 at 07:10

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  • Ardent

    Oiliness…I can’t help but think of sleazy “massage parlours”, where oil would, one would imagine, be in large supply. Every one of these imbecile contraptions has made me react with derision and a kind of despair. Why? Why? How demented can these poor souls be?

  • DodoTheLaser

    Grant Cardone – the OT VIII of them all!

    • ParticleMom

      Ew. I just can’t give you an up-arrow for that, Dodo. Still love you, though.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Can’t blame you! 🙂 <3

    • koki

      and he is talking to octopus….Haboo..

    • ThetaBara

      I see he likes his hand sanitizer!

      • DodoTheLaser

        “Clean hands make a happy life” ~ L. Ron Hubbard.

    • tetloj

      Looks like a candidate for an unflattering Law and Order SVU episode.

    • InterestedinCrazy

      What a wanker!

    • FromPolandWithLove

      hmmm, I’m looking at desk, chair, picture on the wall, clothes— my conclusions: new money, not even big enough, and DEFINITELY not a whale. Not even shark

  • DodoTheLaser

    The great irony….

    “When you can be your own best audience and when your applause is the best
    applause you know of, you’re in good shape. And when you can play a real
    good role, when you can go down here and be the mule or be the general
    with equal verve, in the total spirit of play and do it with terrific
    sincerity, you’re living!”

    L. Ron Hubbard
    Lecture of 21 December 1953, Ability to Accept Direction, 2nd American ACC

    • MaxSpaceman

      Wow! Tremendous quote from the monster-from-hell-itself, Lafayette Ronald H.

      Ah- 1953. Before he became swept up in his own notoriety, which led to onset of increase in symptoms, of vast personality disorders. The budding sociopath.

      Or,

      One of his lucid moments.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yep. One of his lucid moments.
        EDIT: I can see how it can be a benevolent advice, but not in the context of his life.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Davy and Tommy upcoming deposition. Rehearsal. Fort Harrison Hotel.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Heh heh… look at the ‘startle’ on little Davey’s face. Like a deer in the headlights, he doesn’t know which way to lie.

      • MaxSpaceman

        It’s an animated Gif which, with our diqus-ting disqus, is not animating.
        Gonna try once more. If it don’t float, will try to delete.
        And- mea culpa.
        EDIT: can’t post the same picture I guess. Sorry. It’s late. 🙁

      • Guest

  • ThetaBara

    We had a great bunch of SPs at TomKat tonight! See it if you can! Review in the works.

    • MaxSpaceman

      We saw it in New York. Audience loved it !!

    • Charlotte

      jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous

      waiting on my pledge goodies

      • EnthralledObserver

        We can but live vicariously…

      • MaxSpaceman

        There were 3 Thetans there, having gone exterior to catch the show.

        • Charlotte

          I dislike the look Elwrong is giving me. He’s making me feel dirty.

          • MaxSpaceman

            I hear you. And as soon as you said that, I thought, you know, Davey is really a simple, standard, basic pedestrian sociopath. By the numbers. Lower middle class criminal, menacing his grade school classmates, his siblings; going to Saint Hill at 13 for sciloonery, then joining the SeaOrg at 16.
            .
            Davey Miscavage has had *no life.* None. He’s a man of “no experience” in the real world of the living, that is, outside The Prison of Belief. Not that that diminishes the *horror* and *terror* he has inflicted on countless thousands of people, over his 30 years as controller of SeaOrg and The Cult of $cientology, Inc. No- I am not saying that in the post. The evil perpetrated is evident and clear. The point I am making is–
            .
            there is – Lafayette Ronald H. The Master (a Film by Paul Thomas Anderson). Capo di tuti capo? – no. But “The” sociopath of “all” sociopaths. The most successful criminal in the history of planet Teegeak, leaving a $650 million estate. A man who inflicted more pain and suffering into more lives, at the deepest, deepest parts of a human being’s existence: Ron was there to wound you.

            Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. Rot in hell.

            • Charlotte

              And all I thought you were leaving in reply was a link to that sleazy Robin Thicke song…

            • MaxSpaceman

              It just like developed itself. I’m going to take the “Sociopath of All Sociopaths” thing and make this cogent analysis a header comment. [does best Moe Larry Curly chuckle] About 06:45 hours. Ciao ~

            • Charlotte

              Feel safer knowing you are orbiting our humble planet, monitoring for any signs of LRH’s return.
              Ciao

            • MaxSpaceman

              Thank you for reminding me I have to gear up.
              I will be posting later this afternoon or evening the technology am using to scan for that bastard thetan Lafayette RT !

    • MaxSpaceman

      You fell asleep before you posted the review, Ms ThetaB. Aww, oh well. You tired. Catch it soon ~

    • Casabeca

      I am so glad you were there!

  • KJP in Portland

    Look what I dug up!…

    • MaxSpaceman

      Ok so it’s after 04:00 hours 4a.m. EST so zzzzam a bit toasted: who is Dorothy? I can’t “see” it ?

      • DodoTheLaser

        Karin Kapoww!

        • KJP in Portland

          Dodo wins!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Happiness!

        • MaxSpaceman

          !! You know, as much as I follow the cult’s doings, never saw a pic of her. And as a parrot, I always thought that after Tommy butt-boy Davis departed spokesmanship, all press contacts were written by Miscavage under the “pen name” KP ! But there’s a ‘real face.’ Never saw her mug.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Here

            • MaxSpaceman

              Frightening dude. She is a weapon of his – and the thing of it is, she’ll be discarded someday, too — as they all have been. Virtually the entire executive strata of *all* of the organization Ron Hubbard built has been decimated to nothing by Miscavage.
              .
              EDIT: but he still can draw the ka- Pouws of his membership. He will have a whole lot of weapons throughout all the upcoming battles, and he can draw on his followers to work hard and fight.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Correct.

    • Lurkness

      It’s the latest version–The Wizard of Odd.

  • Tory Christman
    • DodoTheLaser

      Thank you Tory! <3

      • Tory Christman

        You are most welcome, DodoTheLaser 🙂

    • Tory Christman

      To those lurking, afraid to even watch this video:
      Were you afraid of videos (Or books) when you joined
      Scientology? Recall being adventurous, and free. And
      realize how FAR you are from that. This is NOT by accident,
      and it IS why SO many of us are out and speaking out. TT TT

      • InterestedinCrazy

        Thanks for the update! I’m mad keen to find out what the good news from the flash protest was??!! You’re a star! Enjoy your Sunday!

        • Tory Christman

          mmmmmmmmmm it’s something personal that if I post it, they’ll use it against

          the person. But it was something all 3 of us observed…so that was cool 🙂 Star? LOL Not any more than most of you here. 🙂 Stars shine lights and yes, that I try to do. Many here do, too! Thank you 🙂

          • InterestedinCrazy

            No worries… “you’re a star” is Irish slang, also used in the UK.

            Yes, it’s fairly common in the UK. (and Ireland)

            You’re a star = what a fantastic thing you have done, I love you for it and think you are a wonderful person (má o meno).

            A: My flight arrives at Heathrow at 6.00am – do you know if I’ll be able to get a train into London at that time?
            B: Don’t worry, I’ll come and pick you up.
            A: Really? You’re a star! Thanks.

            http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=4689

            • Tory Christman

              Ahhh thank you for explaining that to me, InterestedinCrazy! Now that make a lot

              more sense 🙂

            • MaxSpaceman

              What Tory said!
              I hadn’t a clue its slang usage, the phrase ‘you’re a star’
              Nice!!

      • DodoTheLaser

        To those lurking, afraid to even watch this video:
        Were you afraid of videos (Or books) when you joined
        Scientology? Recall being adventurous, and free. And
        realize how FAR you are from that. This is NOT by accident,
        and it IS why SO many of us are out and speaking out. TT TT

        ^^^ THIS.

      • FromPolandWithLove

        Were you afraid of videos (Or books) when you joined
        Scientology?
        Great question Tory !!!!!!!!!!!

    • MaxSpaceman

      Uhm, uh and from those of us not lurking, just wanted to say, Thanks! That was *way cool* to see your evening wrap-up, short and sweet. Hope to see more of such communications. Roger that, over and – Off, to the outer reaches of Space Station 33 to effect repairs.

      • Tory Christman

        Wilko…MaxSpaceman 🙂 🙂

  • media_lush

    Given that all the photos to date seem somewhat underwhelming as far as clams turning up I wonder if the scheduled 10,000 at 1pm [local time] according to the Tampa Bay Times is a logistical possibility.

    I’m no John P but I don’t think I’ve seen any photo or info info here that shows more than 2000 people, max. Can they really get an extra 8000 by 11am [figuring a couple of hours to pass through security, seating etc]…. I mean – they must have turned up really late last night and deliberately missed the crap that went on tonight or they all plan to somehow turn up Sunday morning from…. er, not sure where exactly?

    Anyway, if I was a betting man and had to put my moolah on a celeb actually turning up {‘HAD TO’ that is} I would go with Nancy Cartwright. I’d be amazed to see any of the top 3 or 4 showing up. (imagine the phone conversations between COB and TC and JT last night, ed)

    • koki

      i have heard that a big event is today..last events were for $cios who bring families and friends with them(which do not have to be $cios), that is why so many photos of nice looking girls….
      P.S. with big event I mean-hardcore $cilons…

      • DodoTheLaser

        Hard core as Robert W. Duggan and Tom Cruise?

        • MaxSpaceman

          ” He also has at least $250 million in cash and other investable assets, based upon an analysis of past investments, stock sales and purchases, taxes and charitable giving, according to the Bloomberg ranking. ”

          .
          The single richest member and the biggest donor, Robert W. Duggan.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Yes, he certainly is.

      • media_lush

        I mentioned that the “big one” is today at 1pm…. I was more curious as to the logistics of an extra 8000 people [my amateur guess] suddenly appearing tomorrow…. and the thing is if a bunch of these people were already there, i.e. tonight, then why didn’t they show up? … I just don’t see COB saying if you’re there on Saturday no need to turn up, Sunday will be enough.

        • MaxSpaceman

          An influx of 7 or 8 thousand people into Clearwater on today Sunday… I hear you, I can’t see the logistics of that working in that town either.

        • koki

          no way- that it will be full…..

          • media_lush

            “full” is open into a huge amount of interpretation {multiply that by 10 for scientologists, ed}

            I’d bet my house that no way will there be ten thousand people….. and I’m a good gambler.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Nancy can afford to show. Her fame is predicated on Bart’s. She’s unseen. Everyone else– it’s a PR disaster showing up for the Superpower Building unveiling, I would think, Lush- those photos would go viral all over the world!

    • L. C. Spencer

      Didn’t BTN say she’d talked to some celebs and they were coming? But yeah, we haven’t seen anyone yet and to my untrained mind that doesn’t bode well.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Someone on FB just said – they almost made COB cry by the longest standing ovation in the history of events ever. COB is such a humble fellow. So touching.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Wow- that *is* amazing. The Clam Chowder served in 2013 by The Cult of $cientology Incorporated is powerful potent, enough so to have 3,000 people in the tent (approx.) 3 feet behind their heads wacked-out enthralled, with the longest ovation since 1994’s The War is Over.

    • media_lush

      the No 1 scientology facebook page (31,000 members) is closed to all comments but it did have this…..

      AWESOME!!!!!

      edit – made a boo boo, see my response below

      • media_lush

        …. it’s late and I’m the worse for wear…. should have read this bit [mind you the major scientology facebook group they made themselves seems to have disappeared]

      • MaxSpaceman

        Dude- no matter the endorsed by “attribution” – forget that. The lulz of Tony O being on that freain’ page is GIGANTINORMOUS !!!

        • Eclipse-girl

          there are lots of hidden lutz on that page.

      • Interested

        31000 members! No seriously?

  • Guest

    Last Night’s closing…

    • MaxSpaceman

      It looks so *sparsely* attended. *All* pictures through this one convey the image that Friday and Saturday Tent Events were moderately attended.

    • media_lush

      added a bit of exposure to give an idea of how many people there are in the photo

      • Tory Christman

        Slim pickens!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Shall we assume that 7-8 thousand exteriorized…?

    • DodoTheLaser

      Thanks! I don’t see 10,000 scientologists, even counting in the umbrellas.
      May be they all will show up today, a la jack in a box.

      • MaxSpaceman

        I don’t see the 3,000 that Bury TN said the tent does hold.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Me neither. Although they might be inside the tent.

  • media_lush

    TESTING, TESTING…… THIS IS JUST A TEST:

    “LISA-MARIE PRESLEY AND HER MOTHER PRICILLA MAKE JOINT STATEMENT THAT THEY HAVE LEFT THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY ……”

    THIS WAS JUST A TEST….. KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

    • MaxSpaceman

      Wow- that would be *so* cool, Lush. What a *massive* PR disaster that would be for The Cult of $cientology Inc.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Yes, it’s late. But I am going to go ahead and post some photos and comments on tonight’s Bunker Night at the TomKat Project. I am going to do this a post at a time, with “replies” to post the photos and carry the narrative. That’s because Disqus will otherwise mix up the photos and the narrative won’t make any sense.

    Mrs. Douglas and I found the parking lot we were hoping for, and were pleased to find they had posted a rate of $5. But this was a cruel prank, as there was fine print below saying this was the 30 minute rate, and that the flat rate was $15. Annoying, yes, but also a taste of what it must have been like in Clearwater this weekend…

    • MaxSpaceman

      It’s a bargain. Be thankful. Parking for the New York performance way more way.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Oh yes. And later in the evening, when this photo was taken, it had gone up to $20.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Bustards. Please, go on.

      • Tory Christman

        I took the subway—so it was only 25 cents each way! Not bad, eh? And it’s only 2 blocks from the Theater 🙂

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          You must be one of them city slickers.

          • Tory Christman

            That AND I’m a “Senior” so I got a Senior pass…which is why it was only 25 cents 🙂

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Walking up Hollywood Blvd. to the theater took us right past the Hubbard Life Exhibit in the Hollywood Guaranty Building. We were on the opposite side of the street, but could easily see into the lobby. For some reason there’s a big bronze bust of Mr. Toad there…

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Also across the street was this unmarked building. DogSaluter informed me that this is a Church of Scientology publication building. I’ve seen it before, and always assumed it was some sort of exclusive Russian-themed dance club.

        • DodoTheLaser

          “..some sort of exclusive Russian-themed dance club.” Bawhahaha!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          The theater had a crowded marquee. It’s a stand-up venue, with multiple comedy shows on a fairly regular schedule. Glad they could accommodate TomKat.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            From the street just next to the entrance you can see how close we were to the HGB. All the lights were blazing, doubtless to maintain the fiction that the place was a bustling bee-hive of activity during this Very Important Weekend. Actually, it looked more like one of two possibilities: the cleaning staff was up late, or; the entire place is run by teenagers who NEED TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY LEAVE A ROOM…!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              The view in the opposite direction just down Hollywood Boulevard was a bit more inspiring, what with a giant billboard declaring, “SCUMBAGS UNITE!” (And can someone shoop those initials to read LRH?)

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Inside, the IO (Improv Olympics) is an… intimate space. Yeah, that’s what you call it, intimate. The stage usually holds stand-up comics and small groups of performers, with a lot of audience participation. It was a great place for this show. This is the view of the stage from the “Bunker Row,” the third from the front.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              And here is most of the Bunker gang. Left to right we have DogSaluter, Lurkness, Missionary Kid, and Theta Bara. I took the photo, and Mrs. Douglas was to my left. I just happened to get a photo at the exact moment everyone was intently studying their program…

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I am shy about taking photos during actual performances. So enjoy this shot of the cast leaving the stage at the end of the performance…! (And yes, they got a standing ovation.)

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Out in the lobby/bar/entry (did I mention it’s a really small venue???), we met up with Micah Sterenberg (who plays David Miscavige and others) and Allison Yolo (who plays Maureen Orth and others). We also found that Sibs was there. Left to right we have: Theta Bara, Lurkness, Sterenberg, Yolo and Sibs.

              (Apparently, by this time everyone had begun heavily drinking and must have assumed I was a minion of OSA.)

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              It wouldn’t be LA without the unexpected appearance of a genuine celebrity. Casually hanging around in the back of the house was Christopher Lloyd. Turns out he knew someone in the cast. So… I had to get a photo with Dr. Emmett Brown. (And you have to admire the man– his Tech worked for a successful trilogy!)

            • media_lush

              GREAT SCOTT!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              All good things must come to an end. Mrs. Douglas and I had a long drive ahead. And it was 10:30 on a Saturday night on Hollywood Blvd. That’s daunting for hapless suburbanites like us. But before leaving, we postulated a beautifully decorated cake to commemorate the occasion. And, as you can see from the photo, we can postulate just as well as anybody in Clearwater!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              As the Mrs. and I made our way past the revelers on Hollywood Blvd. (there must have been 10,000 people there, at least), who should we run into but Tory herself, headed to the venue. I had to get a final shot for the night. Here are the ladies, with the still-lighted-up HGB as a festive backdrop. So all those wasteful lights were good for something after all!

              Good night, and here’s hoping we can get EVERYBODY from the Bunker together one day!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Oh! And here’s that photo!

            • tetloj

              Mrs D has lovely trim to the sleeve of her blouse. So does she understand the obsession now or is she convinced you’re bonkers?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              She’s as caught up as I am. Mrs. D. actually binged on Tory’s videos one week, so I am glad they got to meet. (And for my last birthday I was given “Going Clear.”)

            • MaxSpaceman

              A jolly wonderful photo event and comment strip, Triple D! Jolly Dang Wonderful !!!

            • FromPolandWithLove

              Do I need visa, when I want go to US on AntiScientology meeting of The Bunker Team? 😉

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              That might depend to which CoS Continent you plan to visit. There are so many…

            • DodoTheLaser

              Way cool!

            • Eclipse-girl

              SIBS made it.

            • ThetaBara

              I have it on excellent authority that Sibs is awesome!

            • tetloj

              TB – you look just like your avi!

            • FromPolandWithLove

              May I print it, frame it and put on wall over my desk?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              With my compliments.

            • DodoTheLaser

              LOVE this shot! <3 to all of you!

            • Tony Ortega

              Bravo! Wish we’d been there.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Well, good morning! 🙂

            • ThetaBara

              So do we! It was awesome. A few of us even did a flash mini-raid afterwards! Glad I thought to bring my mask. 😉

            • Jo

              Love the photo. Thanks for posting.

            • aquaclara

              LOVE THIS! It is so fabulous to see the Bunker together, having fun. What a great recap! Sorry for the late posting – I was out all day yesterday, and had to take a peek at what I missed. I am so glad I did.
              You all rock!

            • tetloj

              Tell me more. tell me more!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Read on!

          • Tory Christman

            Good shot! 🙂

        • Tory Christman

          Publications building? You mean like Bridge? That is not Bridge Publications, ftr. I’ve always been told it was where the Sea Org eats. Correct me if I’m wrong. Remember the HUGE Bridge Publications blding they now have out somewhere? We need to go picket *that*, too.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            So… it’s a mess? Like the rest of the CoS?

          • DodoTheLaser

            I think it is part of the Bridge Pubs. Wonder if that’s where poor Patrick Howson resides at and sends all his infamous emails from… I could be wrong though.

            • Tory Christman

              No, Bridge Publications is an entire unit and it is somewhere far from these buildings.
              They built a new warehouse for it, some years ago. (For years it used to be part of “The Complex” Off of Fountain Ave near Vermont). Here is a link to Bridge, Publications:

              http://www.bridgepub.com/about-us/about-bridge-publications-inc.html

            • DodoTheLaser

              So I guess this is their private restaurant then. I wonder if they even use it anymore.

      • Tory Christman

        Nice shot….that’s the L Ron Hubbard life Exposition: Nearly empty every time we go by. The door to the HGB (Hollywood Guarantee Building) is in the door way to the left. This is the building many of the Executives operate out of running the International programs. What they *really* do now, with most of the Scientology orgs empty, I have no idea.

    • Tory Christman

      So sorry to hear this, Douglas…but at least they didn’t tow your car!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Frankly, we were expecting to pay more than that. And the parking company didn’t spend the rest of the night trying to extort even more out of us!

  • Tory Christman

    As they say in Ireland: It was a Grand Night! Clearwater looked like a bomb, as expected. (Much to do about nuttin’), Tom Kat—fab! Meeting the Bunkerites was terrrrrrrrific 🙂 Our Flash picket was the icing on the cake.
    Happy Sunday to one and ALL 🙂 If you’re in Clearwater—this IS the day to stay safe, don’t go alone, keep your camera out and filming IF near C of $. Watch your car, as Douglas found out here in LA. Scientology is famous for screwing peeps re cars, IF they can, they will. Love to all…I’m off to snooze. 🙂

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just a song I discovered and like.
    Little soundtrack for the Bunker.

    Ivy – Edge of the Ocean
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL3ZbNRH1Wc

    • MaxSpaceman

      Poison Ivy “herself” ?

      • DodoTheLaser

        I think she will like that comparison. 🙂

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Must get some sleep now. Great to see the Bunkeroos down in LA tonight. And can’t wait to see what Sunday has to offer.

    I will leave you with a shoop I did earlier today… from Friday at Flag… it appears that a few “outsiders” did manage to slip through Security…

    • Casabeca

      So glad you had fun!
      Full report later?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Just scroll down a few more comments with the setting on Newest. It’s all there…

    • Casabeca

      Loving all the pix, thank you so much.

  • Sir Gowther

    Re. Mary Sue Hubbard, I worry sometimes that the tone of Scientology criticism tends towards solo responsibility at all costs. As with the Nazis, Hitler was the necessary but not sufficient cause of all the misery and suffering caused by his regime. Others in prominent positions, and even those in lesser positions must take responsibility for their role, even if they were misguided and manipulated by immense forces. MSH enjoyed many luxuries and privileges from her choice to be with Hubbard, and to her credit she stood by him when he abandoned her. Clearly she was the better person, but still no saint.

    • MaxSpaceman

      I posted some hous ago last night on this topic, point being I believe Mary SH should have served 5 years in Jail just for her criminal actions against Paulette Cooper over a period years.

  • DamOTclese2

    What the hell? How are they actually able to get photographs of real people? Assuming they are not all paid actors.

    That “CONFIDENTIAL” — ROFL! Fucking insane idiots.

  • Катя Бакърджиева

    “JON: Otto Roos was the first OT VIII and one of only five Class XIIs trained by Hubbard” – This is very interesting. Can you please name the

  • Smarty

    “JON: Otto Roos was the first OT VIII and one of only five Class XIIs trained by Hubbard” – This is very interesting. Can you please name the other 4 Class XIIs trained by Hubbard 🙂 . I would love to know. Perhaps David Mayo – Class XII C/S , Quentin Hubbard , Class XII C/S , Merril Mayo and The Klingvalls ?

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      my google research showed that there were up to 8 class xii auditors trained by lrh: otto roos, liese klingsvall, tommy klingsvall, mike mauerer, leon steinberg, quentin hubbard, alex sibersky and brian livingston. please see http://community.freezone-tech.info/pierre-ethier/pierre-ethier/complete-list-of-all-class-xii-auditors-ever-made/ for my source material. cheers!

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      additionally, karen de la carriere claims to have been trained as a class xii auditor by lrh but i can find no supporting evidence online. according to the freezone.com website i cited in my first response, karen was actually trained by one of the original 8 lrh trained class xii auditors. cheers!

  • Jodie

    This entire contraptment looks like an Implant machine … It Interiorizes a being to the body… My biggest Cognition was on Power when I no longer wanted to run anything from the past and I was facing the future full on….with Vim and Vigor… Needless to say it was Invalidated… Went on to the Higher levels … what a joke… <3