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OT Powers: Jon Atack on Scientology’s Promise to Make You Superhuman

WonderTwinsJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He now has a new edition of the book out, and on Saturdays he’s helping us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet.

When L. Ron Hubbard introduced Dianetics in 1950, and then reorganized his movement as Scientology in 1952, the goal of his therapy was “clear” — a state that promised higher IQ, total recall, and immunity from disease. But it wasn’t until 1966 that he said the first true clear had been produced, a man named John McMaster.

By then, Hubbard was proposing even higher states of being with even more superhuman abilities. He called these higher states “Operating Thetan” levels. Today, the highest state a Scientologist can achieve is OT VIII — and it takes years of expensive auditing, and something like $300,000 to attain. To outsiders, Scientologists usually deny that the OT levels bestow special powers on members, and some independent Scientologists tell us that these levels are just about “gaining confidence” or “knowing yourself.”

Jon, to each other, do Scientologists still talk about the OT levels as unlocking superhuman powers?

JON: Believers are sure that other Scientologists have magical powers, and are encouraged to think that such powers include mind-reading. As Scientologists believe that memory is non-corporeal, yet stored in “pictures,” rather like movie film, it is deemed possible for one “thetan” to read another thetan’s “mental image pictures.” Hubbard encouraged even more strenuous beliefs for the final OT level — OT VIII — which was claimed to make the recipient “at cause over physical matter, energy, space and time.” Scientologists who have been pronounced Operating Thetans are held in awe, even though demonstrations of “OT powers” tend to be limited to the belief that traffic lights are being changed by will power, or clouds moved, or dust devils deflected. I instead offer all Scientologists the opportunity to move a fragment of tinfoil across a level table by will power alone. In thirty years, no Scientologist has, as yet, accepted the challenge. James Randi would be out a million dollars if any one of them could.

For those reaching the OT levels, and I speak from experience, comes the realization that you don’t have any supernatural powers, whatsoever, by any empirical test, so there is something wrong with your personal application of the technology, which always remained “workable,” even when it was changing every few months — at times, quite radically. Hubbard instructed all of us who had passed the level of Clear to act in a way that would show us to be completely unabberated to maintain the good repute of the State of Clear. In the inner Sea Organization this boils down to acting out dreadful anger through constant panic, and this anger pours down the organization until the public walk through the door, when smiles are pasted on. The Commanding Officer of the Manchester Org once told his staff they were not smiling enough and ordered them so to do.

But the expectation that others have these spectacular powers remains, and is hinted at by those who have done higher levels. While I was on OT V, at Saint Hill, a mission holder expressed her gratitude that “Ron” had thought up something to dig her out of the mess that OT III had caused her fifteen years before. This is not an unusual outcome. That her own OT III was supervised by Hubbard himself, while she was on the first Class VIII course, makes the pill no easier to swallow. Would the first real OT please stand up? Or can we just accept that Scientologists pretend to have OT powers?

THE BUNKER: As we remember, early in your book you describe getting to OT V on your own journey. Could you add some thoughts about what it was like while you were experiencing it? Was it a constant disappointment that you weren’t developing superhuman abilities?

JON: I’d been involved with Scientology for seven years, when I first crossed the portal of the Advanced Course Room at Saint Hill. It took me three years to renovate the house I’d bought with a friend, and we both put every penny of our profit into OT levels. Compared to today’s prices, the few thousand we spent seems relatively cheap, but it still represented all of my savings.

You have to imagine the build up. I’d flown through every course and auditing level. My needle almost always floated. Looking back, I can’t believe how lucky I was to have actually received so little auditing, and spent so little money.

ScientologyMythbustingOT I was disappointing. I was sent into East Grinstead to watch people and pretend to be OT. I didn’t feel any benefit, but the Case Supervisor reckoned I’d just overrun the process, and urged me on to OT II. Here I had to watch a tedious Hubbard Clearing Course film, where he explained how ill he’d been in the run-up to discovering the keys to the “Routine 6 Bank” (formerly known as the reactive mind, but renamed for the now defunct Grade VI). It reminded me of his Ron’s Journal ’67 lecture, made a couple of years later, where once again his bronchitis had almost done for him. That he chose to chase “implants” and “body thetans” rather than simply quitting his 120 cigarette-a-day habit is yet another example of his fantastic capacity to blame the wrong target (which he assured us is the typical behavior of a suppressive person).

OT II was simply a continuation of the old Clearing Course (yet another essential section of the “white taped road to freedom” that fell quietly into disuse). After months of “digging a ditch” (as Hubbard put it) on the Clearing Course, poor victims were then subjected to more of the same. Given a list of “dichotomies,” I was expected to re-experience the implants which consisted of two contradictory statements (“to be or not to be,” for instance) along with the recollection of an electric shock. I’ve never quite worked out how I could have been a “natural clear” and yet still carried around this adjunct bit of the Clearing implant, but you learn to put aside such mysteries, in the hope that all will indeed become clear, one day.

Again, I felt no benefit, but by this time, a friend from the Birmingham Org had arrived to start his OT I and his excitement at the revelations which I couldn’t share was tangible. I had to play along, and hint at the marvels contained on OT II. It was a farce. I was open with the Case Supervisor, who recommended that I get on with OT III, the real meat of the OT levels.

In the dowdy Advanced Course room, I opened the shabby pink folder and read Hubbard’s faded handwritten directions. A staffer walked in at the appropriate moment and said, “It’s just like Colin Wilson’s Mind Parasites, isn’t it?” This was about the closest to an OT phenomenon that I’ve ever experienced, because I had indeed been thinking about Wilson’s novel about aliens who live off the energy of human thought. It was hard to take in, and disappointing, but it was Hubbard, and I resolutely believed that he wouldn’t let me down. Little did I know. Hubbard spent his whole life letting people down, one way or another, but I was yet to find that out.

OT III used to be promoted as giving “freedom from overwhelm.” Nothing would ever get to you again, after this level. This was the emotional equanimity that I longed for. Further, Hubbard promised that it led to “high affinity” for others (not noticeable in David Miscavige, who has been stuck at OT III for three decades, now. Talk about “no case gain!”).

I spent three days hunting down body thetans, separating them from their clusters and imagining Incidents One and Two, until I was blue in the face. I could not understand why Hubbard had broken the inviolable Auditor’s Code, which demands that we “never evaluate” for a preclear. Why hadn’t we just been given a date and told to find the incident? Like every other OT III I’ve met, I didn’t look up the word “cherub,” either, so we all had a misunderstood (though I don’t think that’s why OT III doesn’t work. But a “cherub” is a big scary angel, not a cute little putti baby). My friend from Birmingham was bursting with gleeful anticipation, and, keeping in mind Hubbard’s demand that we never let on about any failings, once the state of clear had been declared, I grinned back and kept on pretending.

After three days, I could find no more body thetans. The Examiner confirmed this, and I was declared OT III. A couple of days later, I found the former senior case supervisor UK, and confessed that I was unaware of any benefit from the level. I expected to be sent to Ethics, so I was very surprised when he said, “A lot of people find that. You need OT IV.”

I borrowed a thousand pounds and took a 12.5 hour “intensive” of OT IV — the OT Drug Rundown — which was guaranteed to liberate me from the harmful effects of drugs on the “whole track” (i.e., from the beginning of time). I was disappointed to find that it was wholly and solely about body thetans. I told the former senior C/S that I hadn’t experienced any noticeable benefit from the level, and was again told, “A lot of people find that. You need OT V.”

Again, I borrowed more than two thousand pounds and bought two “intensives” of New OT V. My first OT V auditor couldn’t open the window to his auditing room (so much for his OT powers) and the room stank. After my first “intensive,” at £200 an hour, I complained and was assigned the UK’s top auditor, Richard Reiss, who was then Senior Case Supervisor UK (having succeeded the guy who was selling me the levels — so the two top “Tech” guys in the UK were responsible for my success). Reiss had only one other client at the time. He was auditing Van Morrison, who left the cult soon afterwards. Reiss went on to become Senior C/S at Flag and is the Scientologist who persuaded Bill Clinton that the cult is okay, because they were buddies at Oxford.

My shoulder was hurting, because I’d slept in a funny position, but Reiss insisted that the pain was caused by body thetans, so I watched my money draining away in the attempt to cure a temporary muscle sprain.

The former senior C/S brought money lender Lee Lawrence with a cheque for £7,000 and spent an unremitting 13 hours trying to get me to take the loan (at over 30 percent interest). I later met many people who’d succumbed to this offer. After my lukewarm experience of the OT levels, and given that I was already over £3,000 in debt, my resolve was steely, and when they left, they still had the cheque.

I didn’t pick up my OT V “processing” for over a year, when I went to the new Advanced Ability Centre, in East Grinstead. Both my auditor and my C/S there were Flag trained. On the first day, I told the auditor that I didn’t think that any of the body thetans I’d “run” were full-scale personalities, but rather they might be “entities” (something Hubbard was keen on from the early days of Scientology). The next day, I said that they were likely “mental machines” or locked up “attention units.” On the third day, I said that I’d mocked the whole thing up. The auditor, a trifle pale from my heretical statements, checked the OT V list and declared that nothing was reading, so I was now OT V (or maybe it was Advanced Ability Level V). I suggested that I might be PTS; that I wasn’t getting “case gain” because of some connection to a Suppressive Person. I was the only long term member I knew who had never had a PTS Rundown. The auditor asked who I was PTS to, and I had no hesitation in saying “L. Ron Hubbard.” At this she visibly blanched, and even her iron-hard TRs were shaken. She all but pleaded for me to extend the list of possible suspects. I told her that it would make no difference, but obliged, anyway. She checked the full list against the E-Meter, but had to swallow her panic and “indicate” that I was indeed “PTS to L. Ron Hubbard.” It took a few weeks for me to realize the poetic beauty of this, my last auditing session. I had spent nine years under the undue influence of L. Ron Hubbard, in the “agreed upon apparency” that is Scientology. I’d never seen anyone demonstrate an OT ability, in all that time. But we all pretended and put on our bravest faces. Or excused our inability because our “necessity level” had not been high enough. Surely we would have these supernatural powers once the need arose? But it was only make believe, in the Barnum and Bailey world of Ron Hubbard.

THE BUNKER: Thank you for that guided tour, Jon. And it’s a shame you didn’t gain the ability to leap tall buildings with a single bound.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on June 15, 2013 at 07:00

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  • 0tessa

    I love it: PTS to L. Ron Hubbard. Sounds like the ultimate endphenomenon of Scientology.

    • FistOfXenu

      Yup. LRH as the King of SPs. Maybe it’s true, LRH is me.

      • Jgg2012

        LRH is an alien implant

    • Poison Ivy

      Sadly the Indies have not come to this cognition yet. 🙁

      • Kim O’Brien

        i just tried to post a comment over at Marty’s . If he posts it …this is the true signal of the end of the world.

        • ThetaBara

          What did you say?

        • Captain Howdy

          Just checked..and no soup for you. He did publish like half a dozen insane rants in a row by Oracle though.

    • Roger Larsson

      Ron Hubbard’s name popped up as the SP on my line during a security check. He couldn’t be handled with sunshine and fine weather so I disconnected from this suppressive person keeping me in below him.

      “Potential Trouble Sources” to a Suppressive Person can in the reality be “Potential Truth Sources” to LRH. The truth causes trouble to him and to his creation. The truth can only hurt the ones having secrets they want to keep secret.

  • media_lush

    Van Morrison, who knew?

    Would love to know his specific reason for leaving.

    • Pepsicat

      Lyrics to “If You Love Me”: Affinity and communication, That makes reality. Understanding is the first thing, It means so much to me.

      Sound familiar?

      I don’t know why he left either – he may be the only person who was ever allowed just to leave. All other assholes get reports written up on them for not participating; then refusing ethics interviews, has their families shattered with a declare.

      • monkeyknickers

        Leonard Cohen left too . . . . and still, Sci jargon ended up in one of his most beautiful songs ever. As I write songs for a living, this has been a pretty disturbing trend to uncover. I assume it’s only a matter of time before I’m looking for something that pairs well with “enturbulate”. At which point I will have to light myself on fire.

        • 10oriocookies

          How about this lyric:

          When they try to enturbulate
          It makes me want to flatulate

          • monkeyknickers

            Damn! You’re a natural!

            • FistOfXenu

              But not a natural clear. You’re better than that.

          • Anon&mouse

            Very funny!

        • Missionary Kid

          Come on, baby, light my fire?

        • Captain Howdy

          “Thinking of you & me makes my mind enturbulate,
          But the ethics officer won’t let me masturbate”

          • sugarplumfairy

            Hallelujah ..

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              I’m Your Man
              but It’s Closing Time
              Oh Suzanne

          • monkeyknickers

            I read this and think: POWER BALLAD. 🙂

            • Captain Howdy

              Yeah, maybe Foreigner or Whitesnake

          • richelieu jr

            Why don’t you try it and let her be late
            getting home where the coffee won’t percolate

          • tetloj

            Aaah, that’s just beautiful

        • sugarplumfairy

          But look on the bright side.. He may have used the jargon, but it wasn’t flattering to co$.. It was veiled and artsy, but very critical of scientology..

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aRKZFR5imM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          • monkeyknickers

            True, but it was still a nasty shock. 🙂

          • richelieu jr

            Wow, I seriously just listened to this song last night!

            • Miss Davidoff

              You picked it up in the Theta Universe.

        • FistOfXenu

          Album title- “On Their Thetanic Majesties’ Request”?

        • Missionary Kid

          Off topic, but this evening, JImmy Webb will be performing MacArthur Park at MacArthur Park at 8pm, free. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-macarthur-park-jimmy-web-20130615,0,6353317.story

          • ze moo

            I like Guido Sarducci’s version.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s FATHER Sarducci to you. 😉

            • Kim O’Brien

              random …but his sister was the first female surgeon general

            • Missionary Kid

              According to Wikipedia, about Sarducci’s alter ego, Don Novello, “His sister-in-law, Antonia Novello, was Surgeon General of the United States from 1990 to 1993.”

            • Kim O’Brien

              you know..if you keep checking FACTS ..then we are going to have an amazing relationship 😉

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m glad you’re not pissed. I like it when someone checks my “facts.” I’d rather know the truth than be right.

            • Kim O’Brien

              hey …sister and sister in law are not the same 😉 so i stand corrected . But this one i know is true …you can’t keep your eyes open when you sneeze . BAM ! wiki THAT 😉

            • Missionary Kid

              I can’t keep my eyes open when I sneeze. That one I know is true, at least for me.

              The phrase that bugs me is, “true facts.” Either it’s a fact, or it’s not. 😉

              I was surprised that Novello had such an illustrious sister, so I checked. On thinking about it, he’s obviously no dummy, as are most of the writers for SNL. After all, we have a Senator out of that group.

            • Kim O’Brien

              he debated Ann Coulter ..google it ..fucking brilliant

            • Missionary Kid

              I tried to find it, couldn’t.

            • Captain Howdy

              Here’s part of it. Talk about a smackdown! It’s almost painful to watch.

              http://youtu.be/ZHx0oLrGjKY

            • Missionary Kid

              It wasn’t Father Sarducci, but just the same, Coulter, of course, chooses not to discuss where the quote came from. She, like DM & LRH, is always right, and it’s your fault.

            • Captain Howdy

              It took me awhile to figure out that Kim was referring to Al Franken.

            • Missionary Kid

              I finally realized that “he” in your post referred to Al Franken, and not Sarducci. 😀

            • Kim O’Brien

              Sorry guys..i should have said Franken ..glad you figured it out …i love that debate.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              “That one I know is true, at least for me”

              What’s true for you…..and all that jazz.

            • ze moo

              I thought he was a “Monsignor” , all I know is I found all the popes in the pizza….

            • monkeyknickers

              Isn’t he the Lazlo Toth guy?

            • Missionary Kid

              Father Guido Sarducci was a character, invented by Don Novello, who became a writer on SNL. The character appeared on SNL, was a hit, and more or less took on a life of it’s own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Guido_Sarducci

              Here’s his official website: http://www.fathersarducci.com/

          • Captain Howdy

            The legendary Jimmy Webb wrote the legendarily awful “MacArthur Park? Wow, who knew?

            http://youtu.be/HcXO7NtaaBI

            • Missionary Kid

              I like the song, but Pink Lady’s version sucks. Sinatra recorded it, among many others.

            • Captain Howdy

              Pink Lady sucks? Report to Ethics STAT!

              LoL it was a joke MK.

            • Missionary Kid

              Sure, I’ll report to ethics. It’s the ideal name for a bar in Clearwater, right?
              I know some people dislike MacArthur Park, and even the ones that do, have done some pretty good take-offs on it.
              I figured out the joke when I saw the version, but I AM a bit slow. 😉

            • mirele

              I hated the song when I was a kid (and the Donna Summer version was popular when I was a teen), but, now, I’m much older and I have a great deal of respect for what Webb did there. But I like Wichita Lineman better (my dad was a lineman when I was a kid).

            • Captain Howdy

              Believe it or not, Wichita Lineman is one of my all time favorite songs. I’m usually in tears by the end of it.

            • grundoon

              I had no idea the Lineman was a serial killer.

            • Captain Howdy

              Ha Ha, don’t believe everything you read, Grundoon.

        • ThetaBara

          You got me so enturbulated! Baby baby I just cant shake it! You’re so sexy, you’ll get me thrown in ethics! I just wanna hold your cans. It makes me feel like a man!

          • monkeyknickers

            To the tune of Mannish Boy, Theta??

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwUOIlqhGA

            • ThetaBara

              Just made it up, but could be!
              “Hey baby, I’mma show you I’m Able, when I bend you over the Oiliness Table!”
              This shit could go on and on. Hell, that’s probably Miss Cabbage’s idea of sexytalk!

        • Anon&mouse

          I have been ‘lurking’ around here for a while & you just always make me laugh Monkeyknickers! You should write for a Hollywood show! Don’t worry to much about being a single mom and pregnant – it will work out! You might meet someone good! Dont give up!

          • monkeyknickers

            Thanks AM. 🙂 I’m not sure how I can avoid worry at this point. I mean, I get uptight when I pay my phone bill late. All I can say is – do not date people in the business. Or at least get them on the cans first. As far as meeting someone . . . . I think I’m gonna cancel reservations and close the kitchen at this point. 🙂 Given my dating history, I can’t handle another child on top of the two little lunatics I got coming. But you’re very sweet, honey. Thank you. 🙂

    • N. Graham

      Maybe he had a friend who accidentally read OTIII before being prepared for it and caught tuberculosis. It would account for his worst song, TB Sheets, being released around the time he was in $cientology.

    • ze moo

      Van eventually became a devotee of Transcendental Meditation. In 1983 he thanked L ron hubbtard on one of his albums.

      • monkeyknickers

        SHUT. UP.

        Really?!! Jesus!

        • ParticleMom

          I really thought that was a joke. How can it not be a joke??

          • monkeyknickers

            This is my thought exactly PM!! I need to know! Is it real?!

            Tho . . . . I got down-voted. Dear Down-voting person: “Shut up!” is what the kids say these days to mean, “No shit???” I know it gets complicated. Trust me, I have NO idea what my 15 year old cousins are saying half the time. Or maybe it was the jesus thing. Hmmmm

            :))

  • FistOfXenu

    cue up the “Man of Steel” music, slip into the phone booth … oh wait. No tights with the underpants outside, no cape, just the emperor’s new clothes. Let me get dressed before somebody sees me and calls the cops.

    Atack, that’s beautiful. I think I just had a real cognition about what goes on in that “agreed upon apparency”. I just love it that you were PTS to LRH. Thanks again fella for another great article. I’m gonna chew on this awhile and enjoy every bit of it.

  • monkeyknickers

    Is it common knowledge that Miscavige is only an OT III?! How do they spin THAT for the flock?

    • Arthur B

      Signal boosting this because I’d love to hear more details on this. For that matter, did Hubbard himself ever have an official level on the Bridge? I guess in LRH’s case they could get away with not really specifying where he was on the Bridge because he sort of set himself up as the pioneer mapping out the territory ahead of everyone else (his death announcement, for instance, implies that he zoomed off to attain OT levels beyond the capacity of any mere mortal, and likewise the announcement of OTIII implied that he had to put himself through OTIII with no map or guidance before he could develop a technique to put others through it safely).

      Miscavige, however, really doesn’t have that excuse – he started as just another Joe on the Bridge working his way up like anyone else and I’m not aware of anything which would allow him to skip levels or not seek further case gain. So, how do we know that Miscavige is only OTIII, and why isn’t he getting any case gain? (For starters, what auditor or C/S in their right mind would suggest that David wasn’t getting brilliant results, regardless of what the e-meter says?)

      • RMycroft

        I’ve always wanted more details on when and how Miscavige’s Sea Org rank got bumped up to captain. (He’s done a pretty good job of getting rid of anyone else with a real captain rank. All other “captains” now are just mooks with a post rank that disappears as soon as they’re transferred.) Any bets that he slipped his own promotion into the messages coming from Hubbard that he controlled?

        http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mooks

      • Ka-Pow!

        “auditors in their right mind”? lol

        • Arthur B

          “Auditors who don’t want a punch in the teeth”, then. 😉

      • richelieu jr

        He was apparently the ‘golden child’ at CoS.. Auditors were told to pass him or else… How can you fail to get to OTVIII under those conditions?

      • Poison Ivy

        Yes this is mighty fascinating. Does anyone audit COB? I don’t imagine that would be a pleasant job.

        • FistOfXenu

          Auditor: Go back to a previous …

          COB: I DON’T HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANYTHING YOU CS! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TELL ME WHERE TO GO? YOU THINK I HAVE TIME FOR ALL THIS WHEN I’M THE ONLY PERSON THAT GETS ANYTHING DONE AROUND HERE! YSCOHB!!!

          Auditor: But sir your needle is rock-sl-

          COB: MY FUCKING NEEDLE IS FLOATING! DO YOU HEAR ME?

          Auditor: yes sir. Your needle is floating.

          COB: now report to Ethics you little 1.1 squirrel turd!

          • Captain Howdy

            My first belly laugh of the day.

            • FistOfXenu

              Always happy to help. 🙂

          • Sokramor

            I imagined him pronouncing “YSCOHB” as a real word. Like “My yscohb needle is floating, you fucking yscohb!”

      • mirele

        Would you like to be DM’s auditor? I’d escape from the cult, first.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I don’t know what Hubbard was. Probably an OT with the number 8 on its side. But he was definitely clear #54. I would love to see the people who love L.Ron but hate Davey sing a chorus of “The Car 54 Where Are You” theme, but with different lyrics. Call it, “Clear 54 Where Are You”. Viral on youtube for sure.

        • FistOfXenu

          So how did Ron wind up with 53 people going clear before he did? If he’s the guy that did the experiments and blazed the trail for humanity how is it he didn’t get there 1st?

          I like the Clear 54 idea.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I remember reading in a very early book, possibly the one by Cyril Vosper, that initially he wasn’t clear because he (claimed) he was too busy clearing others to teach someone exactly how to use the technology on him. The author, of course, found this absurd. I find it absurd in a variety of ways. Later on, I read a list of clears and he was in there at #54, a hard number to forget because of the old TV show.

            • FistOfXenu

              Thanks for that, MKOT. I’ll think about it a bit but for now it sounds like a ridiculous explanation.

    • Miss Davidoff

      Miscavich is stuck on OTVII – allegedly he stopped exorcising years ago, when he injured his leg while exercising (I think it was basketball! :))

      • Miss Davidoff

        I found a source for him being stuck on OTVII:

        “Well, then, Miscavige is at least an OT VIII, isn’t he?

        Well, no.
        On the Bridge, Miscavige is stalled — badly stalled — on OT VII,
        and has been for 15-20 years. To be a bit clearer: Miscavige has had no
        significant auditing for 15 years at least. None. He wants “all
        Scientologists” to keep paying and moving on his “Bridge to Total
        Freedom” but, even when its all free to Miscavige, he won’t go into

        session.”

        http://askthescientologist.blogspot.de/2008/10/david-miscaviges-qualifications.html

        • Miss Davidoff

          And here´s another one:

          “Miscavige has almost no tech training. He studied at Saint Hill but did
          not complete the Briefing Course. Miscavige has virtually no admin
          training, none. Miscavige can’t audit — he was stuck on OT VII for
          many, many years and simply gave up. He has no qualifications for doing
          anything with Scientology tech. Yet, he continues to make massive
          changes — and Scientologists continue to applaud.”

          http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=561.0

          • Miss Davidoff

            Here is what Marc Headley had to say about Miscaviches case level and the injury he received playing basketball, referencing back to Tonys blog:

            “This is from our good friend Marc Headley, who posted this shit on Tony Ortega’s blog :

            David Miscavige was last audited in 1993. Shortly thereafter, he
            broke his leg in a basketball game. The RTC person over Qual blew
            shortly thereafter. Probably knowing that she would be blamed for the
            “out-tech” on Dave’s case.

            The entire time I was at the base since 1993 there were many efforts
            to train up someone to be able to audit David Miscavige. This was an
            effort headed up by Shelly Miscavige. Ray Mitoff, John Eastment, Hansuli
            Stahli, whoever it was they never made it. They would usually get
            busted after someone they had been auditing for years would blow the
            base.

            David Miscavige was mid-OT 7 in 1993. When I left in 2005 not one
            single person had ever been able to audit David Miscavige. This included
            any of the people that LRH himself left in charge of the technical or
            auditing areas for scientology internationally. Even though they were
            okay for L Ron Hubbard, David Miscavige would not permit ANYONE to audit
            him.

            David Miscavige was a self proclaimed expert “stalled cases”. As
            someone who has not been in session for 20 years he is probably more
            knowledgeable on stalled cases that most.

            Pretty sure the closest David Miscavige has come to being in session
            in twenty years was watching Tom Cruise’s sessions either while they
            were happening or after the fact.

            I look it at like this – If you were the one who oversaw the
            installation of the secret recording devices in the Oval Office, the
            last place you would take a clandestine meeting would be in the Oval
            Office. So in David Miscavige’s case, if you were the great collector of
            secrets and blackmail info through auditing sessions, the last place
            you would be caught would be in an auditing session!”

            http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/marc-headley-on-the-last-time-david-miscavige-got-some-auditing/

  • BosonStark

    OT is really about gaining gains of confidence in confidence, and knowing the knowledge of how to know one’s knowingness.

    Forget the Portland protest, Scientology history was made when OT Jon said he was PTS to Hubbard. And Tom Cruise thought Matt Lauer was glib!

  • Truthiwant

    I’m not too sure about Jon Atack’s statement about OT powers.
    I don’t know about moving a piece of tin foil over a table but I can say for sure that the IAS managed to move a fortune from my pocket to their pockets.

    • Captain Howdy
      • Truthiwant

        Good one! Do you have to dress up like a jerk to pretend you have psychic powers?

        • Captain Howdy

          No, but it helps because all the suckers in the West think that anything that remotely resembles the Far East must be all enlightening and wise even though most of the people there are living in a hole in the middle of the road.

          • Missionary Kid

            In Europe and Asia, I’m sure that they advertise items that are advertised as American. It’s a matter of selling something from far away, where people are led to believe that things are, for some reason, better. It’s just hat the knowledge hasn’t reached the country one is in.

            • RMycroft

              It’s always better to be mysterious and from far away. No one would believe in enlightenment from a religion started in New Jersey.

            • Missionary Kid

              You put it better than I. Thanks.

            • RMycroft

              I was partly joking because Scientology was started in New Jersey. I guess that’s why they like to claim it was California, which is sort of mysterious.

            • Missionary Kid

              He found more suckers in California.
              It was because of the sunshine, famously said Jesse Unruh, the “Big Daddy” speaker of the Assembly in the 1960s, that we grow so many fruits and nuts.

            • RMycroft

              Them that ain’t fruits and nuts, is flakes.

            • Captain Howdy

              My dad use to always say that “California..land of fruits and nuts..if you don’t go fruit..you go nuts”.

            • Robert Eckert

              It is possible to be fruity and nutty at the same time (and flaky as well!)

            • Sidney18511

              Elizabeth, New Jersey.

            • Jgg2012

              Dede said Phoenix was the birthplace of Scientology.

            • Kim O’Brien

              ” Hey ..you got enlightenment from from Jersey ? What exit ? ” …

            • FistOfXenu

              Any exit will do.

            • Miss Davidoff

              The vertical version works too. Material channeled from a higher plane, higher realms (angels, fairies whatever). Going UP the bridge, reaching states with higher numbers bears resemblance of this. – Even target two is somewhere high up in the sky.

            • Miss Davidoff

              It´s the same with cults: The superior knowledge, ability, wisdom or technology hasn´t reached yet the plane of life one lives in.

          • FistOfXenu

            Or you could just dress up like you’re playing at being in the Navy. Or you could jump on a couch on TV.

        • FistOfXenu

          No. Demented Midget’s been wearing a regular suit for yrs and pretending.

      • Ms. B. Haven

        There was something posted recently at the Bunker where Hubbard referred to OT powers saying that OTs had to be very careful with them because of the potential damage that could inadvertently be inflicted by a careless OT. I believe the example he gave was comparing an OT handling a steel tank to an ordinary homo sap trying to handle a cellophane cigarette wrapper without crushing it. Hubbard said trying this experiment was very restimulative. He was right. I tried it and it restimulated me terribly. I felt like a complete idiot. Just like I felt when I realized that I had been conned by the whole scientology bag of shit.

        • Truthiwant

          But let us not forget that the OTVIII’s knocked down the Berlin Wall!
          It had nothing to do with 82,000,000 Germans wanting the end to the wall and the real truth is that it was knocked down by a dozen OT’s

          • Jgg2012

            No, it was the psychs! They wanted to sell drugs to people on the other side of the wall.

        • richelieu jr

          Amazing how many of his examples and research had to do with cigarette wrappers and packs of smokes isn’t it?

          Kind of like a barstool magician. Oops did I say ‘kind of’?

          • Missionary Kid

            He couldn’t qualify as a magician. Leave him on the barstool.

            • FistOfXenu

              Barstool blowhard.

            • Missionary Kid

              Cliff Claven was at least creative and fun.

          • Bella Legosi

            Hey don’t knock bar stool magicians! If making drinks disappear was easy then everyone would do it! I just happen to make their contents disappear a lot faster, but then I have a “high necessity” level to do such a thing!

            😀

          • Jgg2012

            You may have to apologize to barstool magicians for that remark.

        • richelieu jr

          Hey I’m not knocking Bar Stool magicians, just using them as an example of people who use anything that happens to be readily available at any time to work their ‘magic’…

          Another person might use legos, or a knitter yarn, Hubbard was about the Kools and the Koolaid..

        • DodoTheLaser

          At your service:

          “The power of an Operating Thetan is such that if he were to pick up a
          steel cylinder, capable of resisting several hundred pounds to the
          square inch, he would have the same problem that you have with the
          cellophane.

          His problem is: how does he touch things without crushing them? He
          picks up his steel cylinder and he looks at it and it’s got a dent on
          both sides.

          You actually should practice this with a cellophane cigarette wrapper
          to get the exact sensation of being careful that an Operating Thetan
          has in handling MEST. You’ll find it quite restimulative.”

          From recorded lecture “The State Of OT” by L. Ron Hubbard.

  • Captain Howdy

    Thanks Jon and Tony. This is the best one yet, IMO. It’s got it all including Randi, Colin Wilson and the use of the term “non-corporeal”, which is how I describe what scientologists believe what they are, non-corporeal beings from a another universe, not the shore story “immortal spirit” bullshit.

    Clear was suppose to be the end product, and when that shit the bed, and the moolah started to dry up, Hubbard pulled the ole bait and switch to make the long con even longer.

    So D.M quit doing processing right around the same time he assumed power? Sounds like he read OT3, realized it was rubbish and went for the gold instead. That’s pretty much what I’ve always assumed.

    • Truthiwant

      I like how Jon Atack says that his auditor only had one other client at that time. CLIENT? This is supposed to be a Church!

      In the end, yes, the ‘parishioners’ do become clients but clients of their lawyers when they claim damages against the church.

    • FistOfXenu

      Maybe reading OTIII made him have a major cognition that took him all the way to OTIX in a flash and maybe the real end product of OTIX is “Money is At Cause over MEST”.

    • FLUNK_101

      Today was great!

      Yes, the term “non-corporeal” is key.

      Memory is much more fascinating and complex than Hubbard could ever imagine. Nobel prize winning psychologist Eric Kandel prefers the term “recollect” to “remember,” because remembering is actually a re-collection of information stored in different places. I think Hubbard’s mental image “picture” was just a sign of the times, and the popularity of photography in the 1950’s.

      “I can’t believe how lucky I was to have actually received so little auditing, and spent so little money.”

      Oh, man! This is my story!

      “I’ve never quite worked out how I could have been a ‘natural clear.'”

      Yeah .. at first, I thought “Natural Clear” was great, but afterward, it creeped me out.
      If it was true that certain people have always been clear, then why isn’t there a real word for that?
      In the weeks after I attested, I would wake up in a panic.As I woke up, the feeling was like, “What Am I?” I felt panicked, and when I tried to enter into a dialogue with myself, I’d think, “What ever I am, I don’t come from Scientology!” I felt like the subject of scientology was co-opting my soul, like it was trying to own who and what I was.
      I drifted away after that. I never did the OT levels.

      I never heard of Colin Wilson, or his novel about “aliens who live off the energy of human thought.” But, I don’t think Hubbard was the only one to rip him off. I saw a movie about aliens who live off a molecule created in the human brain during heroin use, or sex … (so the aliens land in the East Village, where’s there’s plenty of heroin use, and sex) … It was called “Liquid Sky.”

      • Captain Howdy

        Hey Flunk, good to see ya. Bury was starting to get worried.

        Colin Wilson is considered one of the all time authorities on the supernatural & paranormal.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Wilson

    • Observer

      I’ll say this for Davey–he knew where the *real* power was, and it wasn’t in the “tech”.

    • Bella Legosi

      I like to theorize that Little Boots never realized the con and if he did said fuck it and double fisted the kool aid while doing a keg stand (I am sure his little body is perfect for such activities). Even if you don’t believe this crap, but still promote it (hell he does more then that he is dear leader and all) you would have to think how long can he pull off the act, before he really goes batshit nuts? It is much easier to just believe and go with it (like a bad trip) then to pretend (“true believers” can always sniff out those who pretend…….they seem to smell a lot…….like to the point where everyone is SP/PTS or needs RPF in the Hole)

      Locking up the upper management in the Hole speaks volumes to the paranoia and megalomania Little Boots “suffers” from. It also says to me that even if at one time he thought this was all bullshit……that ship sailed a long time ago and he left his sanity on the docks. At least with pretending and going for the gold one has a chance to salvage their sanity……..I mean at least deep down they still know this is a con, but Little Boots has that twinkle in his eyes.

      • ThetaBara

        I think he’s got to know. Stopping at OT3 is a dead giveaway.

        • Bella Legosi

          Good point.

          The thought of him being some evil greed genius and exposed to kool aid drinkers is very disturbing! At least if he was a true believer you could just put it all off to being guano……

          :/

      • Captain Howdy

        From everything I read about him, Kim Jong-il was no “true believer” communist. He was partying 24/7. The rulers of Saudi Arabia enforce sharia law on their people and fly to Europe on Lear jets, snorting coke off the buts of call girls. Do you want me to go on?

        • Bella Legosi

          That is the difference between real commie nations and “proxy” bitches…….as I like to call them! If you think the Saudi’s are bad think of what the folks in Iran do to loosen up? I can see freaked out Molly and Special K parties while the girls listen (and look like) Lady Gaga. The next day head to the carpet praying to Allah (segregated of course. Wouldn’t want the female witch cootie to infect all the boys). The Saudis have found a way to temporarily have their cake and eat it too.

        • Bella Legosi

          As for Saudi’s doing coke off the asses of call girls, I attribute that behavior to cocaine itself and money (although that is a great visualization! If I had a jet, coke, and hookers I prolly would do the same thing at least once!). Cocaine is a side effect of having a lot of money!

        • Dominic Smith

          Jim Jong-il was hypocrite in many other ways, in the 70’s he (supposedly) wrote the book ‘The Art of the Cinema’ in which he laid out, in typical totalitarian fashion, a controlled blueprint for what ideas should and should be be expressed in North Korean films. Gone was the idea of any kind of free artistic expression or of people using the medium for limited criticism on social problems (that ironically socialists and communist regularly deploy in art to critique the social problems of capitalism in capitalist countries) and instead they should reinforce vulgar nationalism and the infallibility of the party and leaders. Yet along side this. Kim John-il himself had one of the largest personal collection of Western films on video in the world and would sit around stuffing his face while indulging in watching ‘bourgeois-propaganda’ that were denied to the mass of the population.

          Such incidences are hardly rare though but affected every so-called ‘communist’ country (excluding the very early years of the Soviet Union) that, as a communist myself, I’d argue such regimes were not genuinely communist instead being what I’d call ‘deformed workers’ states’ or Stallinist. That is, in short, a workers state, in terms of capitalism being abolished and it’s substitution for a panned economy but deformed in that this state was under the control of bureaucratic caste who, gaining power and privileges, inevitably resort to the utilization of totalitarian methods to defend them and set the process in motion for their eventual conversion into a new capitalist-class.

          Most people here have an interest in Scientology as they are either former members or simply became fascinated with the organization. For my personally, from a communist perspective, I see a lot of very interesting parallels in Scientology, not simply the Maoist like forced confessions of those in The Hole that has been widely commented upon but in a more specific way, paralleling the Soviet Union.

          If we take Hubbard as Lenin (something I am a little uncomfortable with as unlike Hubbard I genuinely believe in the correctives of Lenin’s ideas) and Miscavige as Stalin you can see the similarities.

          1. After Lenin’s death Stalin set about creating a personality cult around Lenin presenting him in a demi-god like status. Now, putting aside the fact the clear difference that Hubbard always placed himself at the top of the pyramid and you could not challenge him (so it was already partly there) while Lenin remained humble, refusing to be put on a pedestal and welcomed genuine debate with others in the communist movement ect, I’ve read many former Scientologists complain at the way Miscavige has elevated Hubbard after his death.

          2. Stalin had an extremely poor, almost non-existent, understanding of Marxist theory. His own clumsy attempts at writing before he assumed power were universally bad, applying a crude, dogmatic, interpretation. Later, after he assumed power, the legacy of Lenin’s political contribution, in his various letters, articles, pamphlets, books and speeches, became nothing more than a pool he would dip into, searching around for some appropriate quote he can pull out, removing it from context, to justify the latest policy change. Also, there was the outright censorship and re-writing of Lenin’s work to suit the practical needs of the church at the expensive of deviating from fundamental principles. In this area you can already see the parallel with the Independent Scientologists who level the charge that Miscavige does not really understand Hubbard’s theories, his fairly lacklustre performance on ABC news in explaining the basic concepts and that he’s stuff on OT 3. The altering of Hubbard’s writings and ‘tech’ is for the Independents an even more serious issue I need no explain further.

          3. Stalin, as a pretty functionary, in part, gained his position of power though his administrative control of the organization, slowly replacing people who were loyal to him in various positions over time and then intrigued against Trotsky who in his last years Lenin had formed an alliance with against Stalin’s increasing concentration and abuse of power. Miscavage, as is well known to people here, also held a key administrative in Scientology and worked behind the scenes to build his own power base in the organization. while unlike with Stalin and Lenin there was no complete break down between him and Hubbard, he none the less did stage a coup against those that Hubbard intended to take over after his death.

          4. Not possessing Lenin’s authority and standing among the party membership and surrounded by people who, for differing intentions, were after his position, Stalin was compelled from day one to resort to the use of fear and violence, eventually having the entire central committee (bar Alexandra Kollontai who he sent abroad to be a diplomat out of thee way) arrested as counter-revolutionaries in the 1930’s. He then alternated between placing them under house arrest or locking them up entirely, depending if they were able to win back their favour with him though humiliatingly prostrating themselves before him, but also occasionally letting them out to perform for him in public like a puppet before returning them to their incarceration. This situation right now mirrors what is going on with The Hole. To add another dimension though, Miscavage, like Stalin before him, was not simply concerned with the genuine intentions of those other leading members to try to take his position from him, not to mention their doubtless paranoia, but also, as the organization enters crisis, the membership would look to another leading figure as a replacement. Thus for both Stalin and Miscavage, it was about preemptive action to ensure there was no other leader in the party or cult, that could be a potential focal point for disaffected members to look to, rally around and even push forward possibly even in spite of their intentions to challenge the dear leader.

          Lastly,

          5. Undoubtedly Stalin’s greatest and most consistent critic from within the communist movement was Leon Trotsky, he rightly exposed the horrific, totalitarian nature of the regime to the world, most comprehensively in his book ‘The Revolution Betrayed.’ He went on to establish a movement outside official communist one, the Forth International, criticizing the official communist movement and suffering continual harassment from the GPU. (forerunner to the KGB.) While again I am somewhat hesitant to draw this compassion given I am a communist, but if we say that Hubbard is Lenin, then Marty Rathbun is Leon Trotsky. Just as Trotsky continued to believe in Lenin’s theories and drew a line between him and Stalin, he once said that Bolshevism and Stalinism were separated by a river of blood, Rathbun takes the same line with regards Hubbard and Miscavage.

          Of course there is a certain crudeness to all of this, in each example there are various factors you can highlight to weaken the comparisons, for me though, I am most curious to see how far this plays out. If we continue the parallel into the future we know that after Stalin died his replacement Khrushchev attempted, within the strict limits of the dictatorship mind you, to reform the party and the state from above in order to prevent revolution from below. The gulags for example, that had increased exponentially under Stalin, were scaled back and most of them closed down. Will we see a post Miscavage leadership do the same in relation to the RPF I wonder? With regards to Trotsky, in spite of his best efforts, the movement he founded, with the exception of Sri Lanka and Bolivia in the 50’s where it made some limited gains that did were not maintained, it remained an isolated sect for 50-years until finally making a breakthrough in the UK in the 1980’s. Is the Independent Scientologist movement also destined to suffer decades of isolation?

          All this is strictly conjectural, as others have pointed out the cult is in free fall at the moment with the younger generation being warned off Scientology to an even greater extent than ever before. Personally, I lean towards Mark Bunkers perspective, that the activities of the leadership over the recent period have not been a conscious effort at expanding the cult but rather at trying to simply maintain the existing members, indicated that they are really just trying to manage the decline. With this being the case, I think it’s only a matter of time before they reorient the cult to take account of that decline, not to try to revere the process, but to justify it. Thus, I see the future of Scientology being in conversion into an more secretive, paranoid and exclusive, insular looking sect with the potential risk of it becoming a destructive cult at a future point with a relativist approach to their numerical decline and the state of human civilization, perhaps invoking apocalypse visions of the future.

          • Markthehungarian

            Not only did her literally “write the book” on cinema in North Korea, but he also brought us fantastic movies. Like “Urban girl”

  • California

    Thank you.

  • 10oriocookies

    I must admit, the lure of stooper powerz was what reeled me in to the cult. The only power it gave me was the power to wait. I got good at waiting for the miracle. Cue in Cohen music…

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Nice reference. Great album!

    • monkeyknickers

      If I could have any superpower I wanted, I would totally go with bioluminescence. Is that offered on the bridge? 🙂

      • 10oriocookies

        No, but there is the Cuttlefish Rundown. I heard through the verbal tech line that the EP is “stably in present time while totally camouflaged.”
        If I had my pick of superpowers it would have to be the ability to communicate with any living organism or the ability to travel (safely) to any point in space instantaneously.

        • monkeyknickers

          Phew, okay you, cookie man:

          1) I am OBSESSED with cuttlefish. Obsessed. I even have like a fave documentary that I watch over and over. If I need to quit my day job, I want to spend my life studying those shitheads. What a BREATHTAKING thing to watch. MIND BLOWING. I know I’m sounding a little over-effusive, but I barely know anyone who even KNOWS what a cuttlefish is. Imagine me trying to exclaim the amazing-ocity of mollusks while I’m in session singing a jingle about Home Depot. I get very little love on the subject in the studio.

          And OH do I love them. A lot. They are all magical and shit. If there was something that might make me believe in a god, it would be cuttlefish. Or ants.

          2) YOU CAN ONLY PICK ONE SUPER POWER THAT’S HOW THE GAME GOES, BROTHER. So it’s either Dr. Doolittle or Instantaneous Galactic Pneumatic Tube.

          I’ll let you think it over. 🙂 🙂

          • grundoon

            You might be interested in the pharyngula website run by cephalopod biologist PZ Myers.

            http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2012/10/l_pealeii1.jpg

            • monkeyknickers

              When I click on that link it just goes straight back to The Bunker – AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE.

            • grundoon

              Fixed the link.

              The pic is from here.

          • 10oriocookies

            Did you ever see the video of the scientists that poured concrete down an anthole and then dug it up? It is one of the most amazing things in nature.

            One of my new favorite sea dwellers is the Mantis Shrimp. Check this out:
            http://theoatmeal.com/comics/mantis_shrimp
            If you are a dog lover check “my dog, the paradox” or a car lover check “how much do cats actually kill?” Best comics ever.
            I must admit, the cuttlefish is a bad mamma jamma. They are like mini swimming Predators.
            As for the powers, my final pick is Dr Doolittle. I’d get caught up here hanging with Orcas or something so wouldnt need the travel power.

            • monkeyknickers

              YES I DID SEE THAT AND IT WAS SO AWESOME I PASSED OUT. Seriously – how can you be BORN knowing how to do that shit? Why aren’t we born knowing how to mulch leaves and herd aphids and build incredibly complex social structures? I feel like people write it off with – well, that’s just INSTINCT.

              It’s just . . . .what now? Where is this “instinct” located exactly? Someone should get on that because I’d really like to splice in the genome for wings and a tail and the ability to forecast earthquakes. 🙂

              And I do love dogs . . . checking out your linkage while my niece is watching prehistoric fish on Discovery. I don’t do too much the cartoons . . . . I’m a mean pseudo-parent. 🙂

            • 10oriocookies

              Naah, cartoons are weird. Prehistoric fish are way cooler and she will thank you later in life for your heroic decision:)

            • monkeyknickers

              I’m not so sure. Tho Ashleen was transfixed. But sadly, after super slick CGI imaging faux “cartoons”, her future only holds Educational Foreign Films and Doing the Crossword. She may ALREADY be silently resenting me. I think Dairy Queen is in her future tomorrow. 🙂

              It’s slightly cheesy, but the graphics are great . . . . tho in retrospect it’s a little scary. Maybe I should go check on that little one.

              Check it out – and you can jump to one minute in if you’d like to skip the aforementioned cheesy premise.

              It’s a SooperTrout. 🙂

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkFPQ9bOzdY

        • monkeyknickers
      • grundoon

        For $2.50 you can break a lightstick and rub the liquid all over your body. It’s the same chemical reaction that makes fireflies glow.

        • monkeyknickers

          Yes, but is the fact that the liquid encased in plastic mean that it’s instantly cancerous? Cuz that would be a deal breaker for me. 🙂

          • grundoon

            The label says it’s nontoxic, but best not to try it with cakes in the oven. And Cappie just gave me a “don’t believe everything you read” reminder, so there’s that.

            • monkeyknickers

              But now you’ve piqued my interest. THANKS A LOT, GRUNS.

  • mook

    kind of o/t, but I just found out that actress Joan Prather (best known for her role on Eight Is Enough and being the one who allegedly introduced J. Travolta to $cientology) is involved with the Tea Party now. I believe she’s out of CoS.
    http://www.meetup.com/santa-monica-tea-party/members/9316575/

    • LocalSP

      From one group of crackpots to another.

      • FistOfXenu

        I was gonna say “1 cult to another”.

  • RMycroft

    If OT Scientologists have powers of mind-reading and remote viewing, why do they need so many private investigators?

    • FistOfXenu

      I saw somebody once with a sign at a demo. It said something like
      “If OT powers existed there’d be no $cientology critics” WisH I could remember it right now.

      • richelieu jr

        You can’t remember it because it is being remotely suppressed….

      • ThetaBara

        I’ve been working on similar signs: “If Scientology works, why is Anonymous still here?”

        • FistOfXenu

          I think I saw something like that once too. I guess it’s a common enough thing to ask. It goes right to the heart of all the horseshit.

          • ThetaBara

            Exactly. Ask the questions that might get them thinking and doubting.

        • Lady Squash

          I like this one: Scientology, clearing the planet one checkbook at a time.

          • ThetaBara

            My focus is targetting the clams (and staff/SO). The general public I’ve met on raids seem to be pretty aware that it’s a scam, so I want to help point the way out for the folks stuck inside. Tell them it’s ok to doubt, that freeloader debt isn’t legal, stuff like that. You’ll see me posting it here sometimes too, especially when our downarrow friends come around.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Becase the PI’s found dirt on them, and keep sending them a bill?

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Reasons I have been given for why OT is not demonstrated:

    People would panic if they saw an OT phenomena.
    It would be poor motivation for going up the bridge.
    Asking an OT to demonstrate would be asking about his case, and that is poor manners.
    We who are lower on the bridge don’t know how an OT thinks.
    We believe in exchange. The powers were expensive and not to be given away.
    I have a special power which looks like a common action but isn’t.
    Are you questioning my religion?
    Even if I showed you, you still wouldn’t believe in Scientology.
    There is always Ingo Swann.

    I understand how a person can be taken in so deeply. People are told that they can’t blow or they will be declared suppressive. And they are told that end phenomenon will be reached if they just stay on it. So they stay on it, as it drains their bank account. One day something happens. Maybe they get vertigo, or a large truck goes by vibrating everything, or their mind starts to wander and there it is– end phenomenon. Presto, you are an member of the high exalted.

    • richelieu jr

      “Ingo Swann”.. Was the the “..You keeeld my father..” guy from Princess Bride?

      • ze moo

        inigo montoya (actually Mandy Patinkin).

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3W5GDkgf2w

        • richelieu jr

          Then who’s Ingo Swann? The Proust guy?

          • ze moo

            Ingo is/was a ‘psychic’ who had something to do with the popularization of ‘remote viewing’. I think he died recently. He may have been involved with the government project that became the ‘men who stare at goats’.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Somehow, our silly military decided instead to go with drones and satellite scientific stuff.

            • richelieu jr

              Thanks, Ze Moo! A fellow can learn a lot around here!

          • Captain Howdy

            Ingo was a scientologist at one time and also a superstar of the make believe magical circus. He was confirmed as being a “genuine psychic” by Professors Dumb & Dumber ( Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff[), the same suckers who were conned by Uri Geller.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Swann

            • richelieu jr

              Taking notes– Thanks, Cap’n!

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Someone will know the story better than I, and you can always check wikipedia but here is what I recall.

        Ingo Swann was a Scientologist who was said to have real, super-duper OT Powers. He discovered mineral deposits on Earth. He went to Jupiter (as a thetan). He was interviewed by a glossy magazine (maybe Penthouse) giving further legitimacy to his story. Eventually he was tested by the Stanford Testing Centre (no relationship to Stanford University) and was found to be real. Oh yeah, I hate to forget mentioning it, one of the two testers was an OT5 Scientologist. To me, he was their most successful fraud. But to a true believer, he was living proof that OT exists.

        • richelieu jr

          Better an better! This is more like what I was expecting… Thanks!

      • monkeyknickers

        “Prepare to die.” 🙂 Movie close to my heart.

        “Never get involved in a land war in Asia,’ but only slightly less well
        known is this: ‘Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the
        line.'”

  • sugarplumfairy

    It’s a struggle for me to be human.. Superhuman sounds like too damn much work..

    • Captain Howdy

      I’ve never ever wanted to be human.

      Look at all these lazy f**kers sleeping in late..pretending they’re tired from working , when they spend most of their work time loitering around here. Some kind of cult : (

      • Snippy_X

        Someone has to keep an eye on the night sky. How else are we going to get the footage of LRH’s return to earth? You probably think these top secret videos grow on trees?

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I resemble that remark!

        • Captain Howdy

          That’s spooky. I was right here re-reading my comment, thinking of you specifically, and BAM! there you be.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Your certificates are on their way….Would you like to write a success story?

      • Observer

        I woke up at 12:06 p.m. today (after going to bed at 11:30 last night) and I LIKED it!

        • Bella Legosi

          Hey Observer. I don’t know if you watch TCM or not, but they have been showing movies I have seen on MSTK. Like “The Incredible Shrinking Man”, “Magic Sword”, and “Valley of the Giants”. Thought you would share my appreciation. They are really not the same with out Tom Servo and Crooooow 🙁

          • Captain Howdy

            Bella, not be fussy, but “The Incredible Shrinking Man” written by the legendary Richard Matheson is not MSTK worthy. It is considered a Sci-Fi classic and has a 88% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

            • Bella Legosi

              Don’t get fussy with me! They did an episode and said that this was the movie that inspired Spielberg and Lucas as kids. If it is any consolation that episode of MSTK wasn’t as good as “Valley of the Giants” or my personal favorite, “The Dragon and the Sword”.

            • Captain Howdy

              You should watch this:

              http://youtu.be/5YwSShWuUgA

            • Bella Legosi

              Goddamn the Italian know cheese don’t they!

            • Observer

              My favorite MST is a three-way tie that I cannot break no matter how hard I try: “Manos, the Hands of Fate,” “Santa Claus” (the Mexican one), and “It Conquered the World.”

            • Bella Legosi

              o m g Santa Claus! That one was filled with so much creepy nightmare fuel.

  • Jory

    My last session in $cientology was in ’83 at AOLA. It also didn’t cost me any money, because at the time the cult was trying to put a lid on the thousands of “blowing” public & staff, and I was invited to “get handled”. My floating needle came with a cognition that scientology had run it’s course for me, that I was thankful for what I got from it in the past and that I’m now heading in another direction. My AO auditor resisted my cognition and invited 3 or 4 other staff members into the auditing room (!). I cooly & bravely held on to my own, and against the increasingly violent gang-bang reactions of the hubberdoids got up and left, never to return.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      The Clear Cognition: The Scientology Sales System is Not a bridge, it ‘s Actually a hampster wheel.

      The OT 3 Cognition: The Scientology Sales System Overwhelmed my Actual bank.

      The Super Power Cognition: Scientology Sales System stole my brain, hijacked my family, destroyed my free will, and for a few hundred thousand dollars more, will sell me my eternity. Wait…what?

      • Artoo45

        Join us on The Wheel To Here™. Using patented LRH “Circle Tech” you’ll end up exactly where your isness is . . . here. Welcome to Here®, welcome to Scientology.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          You cannot rise up the “Bridge to Total Freedom” while burdened by the foolish weight of wog money… I mean ‘MEST’. Yea, that’s right. MEST.

          When you have finally shed all worldly bank accounts and assets you will attain that lofty goal of pure beingness. The Thetan, alone without care, glorious nothingness.

          Please be sure to donate enough to ensure proper disposal of your emaciated corpse.

          • Poison Ivy

            Just be sure that this “worldly money” is readily available and liquid for COB’s immediate use, in case he needs a new Saville Row suit or perhaps needs to blow INT for a secret hiding place in an unnamed country…

        • richelieu jr

          I visited quite an amazing site in Turkey called Pamakkule.. It is a natural source springs that come out in an outcropping of pure white rock that looks like ice in the middle of the desert… Amazing and beautiful… People have come since antiquity to bathe there and be healed in the ‘magic’ waters…

          Only, once you begin to approach the site you start to see lots of ancient stone buildings, mile upon mile upon mile of them… Turns out they are mausoleums. So many people were either dying on the way or in the springs themselves, or on the way back that they insisted that all visitors build themselves a tomb first so the hosts didn’t have to.andthere are tens of thousands of tombs surrounding the springs.

          And people haven’t stopped coming in 3000 years.

          If you can sell ‘Come be healed but build your grave first” to millions of people over thousands of years you can sell anything.

          People are stupid.

          • Kimon Matara

            I love that story, and that image.

  • Truthiwant

    I’ve just written a new short story. You can get it here

    http://wp.me/p3a0JR-aw

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Amen.

  • Phil McKraken

    Can I get a Hubbard-to-English translation? When Jon says he was “PTS to L. Ron Hubbard,” does that mean that LRH is the SP? Because of I say “potential trouble source to…,” to mean that, it just doesn’t add up, syntactically.

    • Missionary Kid

      Very little adds up syntactically in clam land.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Not sure about that either

    • FistOfXenu

      How cute, Phil! You think $cientologese uses good grammar. I like it. 🙂

      It’s okay. We all make mistakes like that sometimes.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      “To”, in the sentence “PTS to L. Ron Hubbard” means “In relation to, caused by”. So it means he is a “Potential Trouble Source” because he is being influenced by the actions and intentions of a Suppressive person. In this case he has identified L. Ron Hubbard as the Suppressive person who is causing his difficulties. A very brave thing to even realize, let alone to say.

      • ze moo

        I am surprised he wasn’t burned at the stake.

        • richelieu jr

          He was, and is being…

      • Phil McKraken

        It sounds like it was very freeing, to be PTS to LRH. It’s that exhaust port in the Death Star of Scientology that Luke bullseyes like a womp rat back home.

  • Ms. B. Haven

    Mr. Atack, whom I truly admire, must be wrong here. I just whipped open my latest copy of Advance! (Magazine of the Advanced Organization of Los Angles) and read this win from a real OT.

    “I was flying to Oslo and it was very stormy weather. The plane was shaking and leaping up and down and other passengers were terrified. The Captain’s voice came on the loudspeaker and reported it was possible we would have to turn back du to the storm as no planes could land in Oslo-that being the center of the storm. I put my attention on the storm clouds and suddenly the air became calm. A few minutes later, the Captain came back on the speaker and reported the storm had suddenly calmed down down and we could continue on to our destination, Oslo. We landed very quietly and well. When we came into the airport people were talking about the horrible storm and how no one had been able to take off or land for some hours. We were the first to land. I knew the storm died down when I confronted it as an OT” L.F.

    L.F. must surely be working for a large insurance firm as a ‘Storm Subsider’ or some such title. With these run of the mill powers that OTs possess insurance companies save boatloads of money on claims caused by acts of God. I’m sure that L.F. was on vacation, working in the garden, getting that 6 month sec check, cruising on the Freewinds, or taking a nap when that nasty tornado hit Oklahoma a few weeks ago or super storm Sandy blew up the East Coast of the US last fall. But what about the thousands of other OTs out there. Couldn’t they possibly jump in to give L.F. a hand? Calling all OTs…. PLEASE HELP! This dirt clod of a planet we are living on is going to shit and only you can save us.

    • ze moo

      One does not ‘turn back’ when your destination airport is closed. You go to the closest open airport, In Oslo’s case probably Stavanger or Trondheim or maybe in Sweden.

      The first sign of imaginary stupor powerz is their use only for your benefit, never for general welfare of all. Why didn’t ‘whole track’ Lrooon warn us of 911? Why no advance notice on the housing bubble of 08? If OT powerz are limited to weather control and parking spaces why pay up to 1/2 million dollars? I’ll just park where I can and carry an umbrella.

      • Miss Davidoff

        So funny :))

      • Semper Phi

        Well, when I was at Flag, OTs were credited for postulating that in 2004 Hurricane Charley would not come ashore in the Clearwater area, as it was originally predicted to do. Apparently it was their powerful postulating that caused the storm’s sudden, unpredicted turn to the east that made it hit Fort Myers instead. The people of Fort Myers probably disagree as to the wonderfulness of that postulating.

    • FistOfXenu

      Question 1: why would a real OT need a plane?
      Question 2: if 1 OT can do all that why do the cultists guys do nothing about hurricanes like Katrina and Sandy destroying so much and killing so many people? They let hurricanes cause all these tragedies when they could just get a team of OTs to confront the storms and stop them. And then they can send in their Vampyre Ministers. But they use their OT powerz to make a flight easier for 1 plane?

      If it was true it’s just another example of how $cientology turns people into near sighted self centered bastards. As it stands it’s just another example of how $cientology turns people into near sighted self centered DELUDED bastards.

      • Bob

        Hey FOX I resemble, I mean resent that! Having been in the church much longer than Jon I have had a chance to see many more unremarkable cases of people achieving ShmOT. In all instances they acted like they were getting amazing results but eventually showed no super powers. The only thing many maninfested was the ability to attract lots of money which then made them OTs as far as the regs were concerned. I came in because I wanted powers that the super heros had and I ended up with powerful debts that I never wanted.

        • FistOfXenu

          There’s the real OT power, the ability to go into debt to make money for the cult. And you did get what you wanted. You ended up with debts just like those super heroes you wanted to be like.

          Write up your win and then take your credit card to the Regging Officer.

      • richelieu jr

        Are you quoting Captai Kirk this time FoX?

        • FistOfXenu

          Don’t think I was. I don’t think the cult still exists in the 23rd century so how could Kirk talk about it? But I haven’t been to the future yet. I’ll ask him when I get there.

          • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

            Good news and bad news.

            Good new, I’ve whole-tracked to end of time itself ( the last quarter billion years is a real hoot) and Scientology meets its end by the mid-21st century due to a historical event that resets the timelines such that the infinite multiverses merge into one incredibly awesome place.

            The bad news, obviously, is that Kirk’s timelines are never spawned and the Church has a few more years to go. Although the number of people leaving will continue to be straight up and vertical so by the time DM gets his comeuppance he will be very, very lonely.

            • FistOfXenu

              I’ll settle for that if it means the cult dies. Okay so no Kirk but if I’m honest about it he was never my favorite anyway. We still get Spock though, right? And Picard? And Kes and 7 of 9? 🙂

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              Sadly the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,or the one.

              Hopefully you’ll be content in knowing somewhen there’s a slightly balding EMH harrumphing about no one bothering to turn him off ….

            • FistOfXenu

              But no Kes? That’s a lot to ask.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Tell DM I will sell him my 1st Edition of Star Trek Star Fleet Technical Manual. It’s his Only Hope. Buy Now before Thursday @ 2:00 pm, sliding scale discount for evil totalitarian Philly dictators: $6 Billion.

            • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

              I’m sure he’d figure someway to adapt it into Golden Age of Tech 4 and recoup your nominal fee by making it a prominent part of their new Ideal Morgue program (an exclusive funeral program for those who drop the body with charges added for uncleared body thetans).

          • richelieu jr

            You don’t know; “Why would God need a Starship?”

            the climactic line from the cinematic masterpiece that was Star Trek V?

            • FistOfXenu

              Forgot it. Saw it yrs ago but not since then.

            • richelieu jr

              Lucky man, FoX!

        • Captain Howdy

          You have the Absurdist dialectic down to an art form.

        • Sokramor

          I think that’s the only line I remember from the whole movie. But I can quote ST IV just fine… and Garak.

          • richelieu jr

            Garak is endlessly quotable…

            • Sokramor

              Now I imagine Garak analyzing Dianetics… hey, a girl can dream, right? 😉

      • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

        Apparently it is -our- fault (like everything) because there are so many freaking body thetans.

        While an individual OT has super powers, the suppressive dampening fields generated by non-Scilons in a given area outweighs the ability of a single (or even group of) OTs to completely avoid a MEST mess.

        Once the East Coast and Gulf of Mexico regions are clear, they will no longer be adversely impacted by hurricanes (just like LA has ever been hit by a hurricane since the church founded itself there).

        I’m trying to determine, though, if the recent tornadic activity is related to OTs using their powers to build ARC with locals in light of Arrowhead (i.e., they cause the disaster, send in the drone clone VMS to play touchy feely recruiting) or if they’ll blame the Psychs for that mess as well.

        • SciWatcher

          No, no tornadoes here in California since the Church set up shop. A few earthquakes, though.Why haven’t they stopped those?

          • Xenu, Lord of Kobol

            Those aren’t earthquakes, those are the aftershocks of body thetans displaced by work performed by the CCI.

            Holy Xenu Crapballs … I’m starting to sound like OTVIIIisGreat!

            I need help!!!!!!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Answer #1: To transport their wallet.

        Answer #2: All the OT’s have to keep Clearwater safe. It’s still there, so poof! Proof!

      • SciWatcher

        The answer to question two is obvious. The hurricanes are caused by the psychs, and the psychs sometimes get the upper hand because people are not donating enough money to stop them.

        • FistOfXenu

          Yup. Those psychs sure have amazing OT powerz.

          • Bleuler

            We get the super-psych power to enturbulate and tornadoing the day we get our specialty in psychiatry.

  • aquaclara

    Fascinating interview today. Jon, your self-deprecating walk through the OT levels reveals the truth-the cult is selling something that doesn’t exist or work. Then, the only way out is to buy more. Your exit line was beautiful. Glad they didn’t take your sense of humor along with the wallet.
    Thank you!

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Funny, I remember back in ’76 when I was at San Francisco Foundation Org, that the GO booted the Executive Director of the day org for being a suppressive person. They did a ‘Third dynamic engram session’ for the staff, which was basically getting us all together and telling us what he had been doing.

    Evidently he had been keeping as a personal statistic, “number of staff who found him as the SP on their case’.

    I seem to remember vaguely that recently one of Tony’s stories, or a commentator, reported that Lil’ Davy keeps the same stat.

    It is still amazing to me how we were all walking around pretending we had great wins and power long after the placebo had evaporated, and gazed in awe at the senior scientologists and OTs who proudly laid claim to the abilities we desperately wished we had. Never realizing they were pretending just as fiercely.

    • RMycroft

      If you don’t clap your hands hard enough, Scientology will die.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        No, SugarPlumFairy will just Smack some sense into them.

    • FistOfXenu

      Interesting to hear your personal recollection and explanation Michael. Thanks.

    • richelieu jr

      Explained this way I suddenly see why Scientology works so well in Hollywood…

    • Phil McKraken

      This thing reminds me of an exaggerated East Germany where literally everyone is an informant for the Stasi, and they all spill forth accusations against each other in endless succession.

  • richelieu jr

    Great story, very well told.

  • Vistaril

    L Ron Hubbard’s first Scientology lie is that he used Dianetics to cure physical injuries he received in dire combat during World War II. We know now, L Ron Hubbard never experienced combat and nor was he ever injured during the war. But, having told that first lie, as time went on, L Ron Hubbard’s lies had to become increasingly fabulous. While Auditing is able to covertly use hypnotic-like techniques to induce euphoria and imagined experiences, the actual results promised by L Ron Hubbard never, ever eventuated. This complete lack of results necessitated an endless stream of reasons why, resulting in a concomitant imposition of increasingly totalitarian millieu control techniqes and the practical application of Scientology processing “tech” being in a constant state of flux. Looking back now, it’s obviously that L Ron Hubbard was simply making it up as he went along causing the body of his work to become more and more incomprehensible.

    I think this page from a 1976 Scientology brochure promoting the OT levels gives an idea of what was happening at the tech level. Note the gobbledygook under the heading “Intention” explaining the then gradient steps on the Bridge to Xenu. It amuses me that some proponents of Scientology refer to the “original” Bridge when the truth is the Bridge was never actually completed and remained in the construction phase throughout L Ron Hubbard’s life time. I like to refer to this brochure also because many of those same proponents like to tell the “acceptable truth” that the promised abilities relate to the spiritual world only and attempt to dismiss as ignorant wog nattering the idea that L Ron Hubbard ever meant for Scientologists to be able to leap tall buildings. But, there it is, Scientology’s promise . . .

    . . . On OT VII, you tremendously increase your ability to be at cause knowingly and at will over thought, life, from, matter, energy, space and time – subject and objective . . .

    While the “tech” was in its usual shambolic state in 1976, that was the same year L Ron Hubbard’s totalitarian measures included the formulation of “Operation Freak Out”, an orchestrated attempt to frame Arizona law enforcement personnel, Operation Normandy was in its implementation phase, and Operation Snow White was in full swing. 1976 was also the year Quentin Hubbard was murdered found dead in mysterious circumstances.

    /brandy infused rant

    • stateofcircle

      In the immortal words of Tommy Davis, “Of course, if it’s true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during the war, then he never did heal himself using Dianetics principles, then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie. “

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      This is the concept of an academic project I would like to see. Many on ESMB and Lermanet and WWP have various timelines of Hubbard’s and Scientology’s criminal history, legal history, as well as his physical history (drugs, alcohol, body injuries, ailments). I’d like to see it All put together, perhaps in searchable columns.

      You can then see for example: 1) FDA raids scientology headquarters 1a) Fines, lawsuits, court activity 1b) Hubbard has stroke 1c) Refunds for OT3 spike 1d) OT3X and OT3 Expanded are “discovered”.

  • richelieu jr

    A lot of people find out they are PTS to BofA… or the IRS….

  • Mary_McConnell

    I really enjoyed reading this although I don’t think Jon “enjoyed” writing it as much.

    Thank you for sharing this most important information.

  • N. Graham

    What would happen if they scheduled an OT conference with 40 people coming and only 20 parking places? There should be a good punch-line there somewhere…

    • aquaclara

      Sounds like an ideal org opening! 2500 people coming, arriving in just 3 buses and in space in front of the building that fits just 500. I guess ya just just gotta believe!

    • BosonStark

      With two OT’s in each car, it should work out magickally.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        But what if there’s four OT’s in each car? DM is going to blow a copper rod if he sees 10 empty parking places. What to do?

      • stateofcircle

        Since the OTs would have postulatedely congnited to carpool, they just knew there wouldn’t be enough spots, therefore OT powers exist.

        This would be a fun game…rationalizing any situation to be a result of OT powers.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          As I recall, one of the old interviews with Astra Woodcraft had her discussing the pressure she was put under to join the SO. She said that she was shown an LRH policy written in 1970 that said the planet would not be sustainable in 30 years. The only reason why earth is still supporting life today, however, is because of $cientology. Unfortunately, she joined.

        • FistOfXenu

          When I got my 1st job pumping gas I had to walk 4 miles to work and back for the 1st week because I couldn’t afford a bus. As a natural OT I confronted my poverty and at the end of the 2nd week the boss handed me my pay check! I had money for the bus and even had money left over after I gave my parents room and board. I was able to save up for my 1st car in next to no time.

          • Bella Legosi

            But did you find $20?!?!?!?!

            Something must be wrong with your application Fist! Surly you could have manifested that check a lot sooner! To the auditing room! We have some KR’s to fill out on this incident in the past!

            • FistOfXenu

              Better than that. I was late getting to work my 1st morning so I postulated the boss being half hour late. He over slept that day so I ended up there before him. I didn’t bother postulating finding money because somebody would figure out it happened and be overwhelmed by my power.

    • Robert Eckert

      Wogs would only see five actually attending, but the (definitely not shopped) photos of the event would show over a hundred.

  • Espiando

    I think we all want sequels. I know that Tory’s talked a lot about her experiences on OTVII, but I can’t remember her saying much about OTVI. How about a guest column from Geir Isene blowing the lid off OTVIII? Enough OTVIIIs are out that I’d love to hear a compare-and-contrast about their reaction when their Truth was Revealed.

    • FistOfXenu

      This would be interesting to hear.

    • It’s my understanding that VI is just the training to audit on VII.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    History note, here’s what L. Ron Hubbard says in “E-Meter Essentials” 1997 edition:

    p. 18 “You can also make a high-sensitivity-set needle jump by ‘imagining’ the pc’s hands being better connected to the cans and ‘seeing’ a whitish glow between cans and fingertips—that is, if you’re in good shape. You can also do it by ‘seeing’ this glow in the area of a pc’s old injury. That’s the extent of your influencing the pc and the meter reading outside of auditing.”

    Translation of this paragraph: First off this quote is a public domain easily found Hubbard comment that telepathy can influence the E-meter of the patient holding the electrodes.

    Any Scientologist who does training on the E-meter reads and understands Hubbard to be saying that the E-Meter can be influenced by the “seeing” of the E-meter operator, telepathically projecting their thoughts onto the patient’s hands, “seeing” this glow, or “seeing” the injury in the patient’s body, with the result being the needle on the E-meter will react visibly.

    This is one constant “OT” supernatural example of Hubbard’s ideas given widely, to everyone who trains on the E-Meter, where reading the booklet “E-Meter Essentials” is a must!

    Tens of thousands of Scientologists in Scientology’s history, have played around with their E-meters and tried to carry out this exercise that Hubbard mentions in this quoted passage.

    My own Example:

    Tom Martiniano was coaching Ellen Praeger on the E-meter drills one time, and I was the guinea pig holding the “cans” (electrodes).

    Tom and Ellen were in very good rapport, through Tom’s coaching of Ellen. Ellen at that time was the Senior Case Supervisor at the Int Training Org, and Tom was the Commanding Officer of the Int Training Org, this was I believe in 1987ish or 1988ish, at the “complex”.

    Ellen had a cramming order or for some reason had to do the E-Meter drills, or do a couple of them.

    Ellen was playing around, with this exact paragraph from E-Meter Essentials, which is something that auditors will do, we all tried it, I don’t think any long term auditor or E-meter operating staff member didn’t try to play around with this “seeing” the white glowing between people’s fingers and the cans, or try to “see” the patients (guinea pig holding the cans, in this case) injuries, to produce a “read” on the E-Meter’s needle, just for fun.

    Okay, to the point.

    Tom and Ellen and me as guinea pig, DID produce all sorts of needle reactions. Who knows, I see it as just a moment of good rapport and coincidence, me being an extremely cooperative guinea pig, and all 3 of us being in good rapport. I held Ellen and Tom in very high respect, and I had (at that time) a naturally “loose” needle, and was to some degree able to “control” my own needle reactions, and I knew what Ellen and Tom were attempting to do (I knew, like any person who has done the E-Meter drills hundreds of times over the years as a tech staff member who uses the E-meter daily, like I did at that time, as Course Supervisor which I was at the time, I used the E-meter 20-50 times a day on students), I was familiar with and cooperated with Ellen and Tom’s doing the “white” glow exercise.

    I at the time didn’t think there was anything telepathic about Ellen producing the needle reactions on me, with Tom’s coaching of Ellen, but rather I still down deep thought I was just a very well informed guinea pig, knew what they were trying to accomplish, and I just tried to be accommodating.

    I think, in hindsight, that Scientologists who know what Hubbard is striving for, and who learn how to get in good rapport, and learn over the years of being experienced members, we know what these “OT” supernatural moments are supposed to be like, and we sometimes hit our strides together, and we have these seemingly telepathic moments. Is all.

    It’s just our wishing for these supernatural small coincidences, and during moments of quite focused co-admiration for each other, and being in sync with our co-wished for hopes, and beliefs (belief in the supernatural abilities of the “higher” OT level Scientologists, where both Ellen and Tom were OT 5 or higher).

    It’s all part of the group good vibes for each other, and friendship and belief that we were doing “OT” things, even with this one allowed “OT” exercise of using the E-Meter to produce seeming supernatural responses due to the “higher” case members’ (Tom and Ellen) higher case abilities they supposedly attained.

    I myself distinguish between what is good firendship close communication and well wishes and even well informed guinea pig participation with the Hubbard few instances of allowed supernatural exercises, with scientifically proven telepathy though.

    For instance, were Ellen and Tom today to do this same exercise, under scientifically controlled circumstances, this is a golden opportunity to win the James Randi 1 million dollar challenge!

    Chuck Beatty
    ex Sea Org (1975-2003)

  • Kim O’Brien

    Man..this is where is starts to get tweekey for me. The other day my daughter and i were on the road and i kept hitting all of the green lights ( i love it when that happens ) and i made a joke telling her that i was using my mom powers to change the lights. After about 2 min’s ..i almost had her convinced …then she blinked and told me i was full of it ( oh …and once again , i am lame ..just fyi ) I can just imagine the cat and mouse game being played with adults…going nuts when people say ( without saying cause you can’t talk about it ) they have “powers” .

    We had a greek indie here not too long ago ( hi Theo ) who could not be bothered talking about leaving his body and finding my keys because THAT would be a parlor trick . He did however..feel OK about “putting ethics” into the President of the United States of America . I feel really bad for these people ..these are adult human beings who do not have the common sense of an 11 year old . How do they have conversations with people who are just mere mortals ? Sometimes it’s cute …mostly it is just sad . Kind of like a retarded kitten ..cute at first ..then ” aaww…that poor cute kitten is retarded”

    • Missionary Kid

      Ah, yes, dear old Theo. He went back over to Marty’s and thought I was screwed up because my out of body experiences weren’t explained in the Hubbardian way. (They could all be explained by anesthesia, hypnotism, blackout from G force, and other reasons).

      Science was defined as Hubtard defined it — made up.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i had one too . After 24 hours of labor with no pain medication …still cheaper than scientology

        • SciWatcher

          And less painful in the long run

        • monkeyknickers

          Um . . . . okay Kim. Did you exteriorize BEFORE the body splitting pain? I’m looking for ideas. Because I am SCARED as SHIT. I think this is the part where you’re supposed to have a husband or partner or whatever. I seriously feel like I’ll need to take a break in the middle to give my niece lunch or something.

          • Kim O’Brien

            i loved being pregnant ..i loved being in labor too actually . I was single when i had my daughter so trust me when i say that you can do it …it is so fucking cool

            • monkeyknickers

              You were?! You have to come out here to babysit a little early then. 🙂 I appreciate I’ll be amazed at the incredible built-in abilities of being a woman, but I’m also freaked the fuck out. I watched a live birth vid on youtube, Kim, and there was . . . . there was . . . . there was poop involved. Thus, I live in fear.

  • Jon Atack is a “natural” Clear? That says a lot about him. A “natural” Clear is someone who has never been anything else but Clear according to LRH and he said there were maybe four on the entire planet. No wonder these articles by Jon are so special!

    • Kim O’Brien

      i thought Jason Beghe was one too ….

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I just spit out my celery.

      • Well, that’s 2 out of the 4. Two more to go.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Reporting in. I have to credit my early science fiction classic authors for helping me Cognite all the right stuff as a quick study.

          Oh, this was the period when all sorts of Clear flavors were conjured up by the Great and Powerful Oz. You’ll be shocked to know that it turned out it was to kick start sales figures in the dumps. Suddenly the regges had a thriving customer market for the more lucrative OT levels.

        • Kim O’Brien

          i think we MUST count little Tom Cruise ..i mean he runs like a screaming homo novis so there has to be something super duper about him

      • monkeyknickers

        A “past life” clear, I think. The poor man – what a crock to wake up to.

      • Robert Eckert

        No, he’s a “motherfucking” Clear

  • BuryTheNuts2

    In airport in Vegas…haven’t even read this yet, but ARC to all.

    Bloody Mary’s taking precedence!

    • Kim O’Brien

      have one for me ..shit ….make it 3

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Already did! Lol

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Add celery and you have your health drink for the day.
          p.s: The pool therapy w/piped in music is divine. just divine.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            But of course…lots if veges yo chase my vodka!

            Btw, I am not drunk, but typin on my IPad sucks!

            • aquaclara

              That is so funny…enjoy your fun, and keep typing so we can see the effect of vegetables on both Scilon observations and iPad typing!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            And jealous, can’t believe how fast you postulated perfection!

          • 1subgenius

            Sometimes I make them with V8 and call them “Healthy Marys”.

    • Espiando

      Better Vegas than Phoenix, which is where I spent a number of interminable hours on Thursday night, verging into Friday morning.

    • 1subgenius

      The best ever.

      • Captain Howdy

        Mmmmmmmm…breakfast.

        • 1subgenius

          You do almost need a knife and fork for McClure’s, there are so many chunks of flavorful goodness.

        • 1subgenius

          “Brooklyn-Detroit” FTW.

          • Captain Howdy

            Stooges-Ramones FTW!

            • Espiando

              Except that the Stooges were from Ann Arbor and the Ramones from Forest Hills.

            • Captain Howdy

              I know. But close enough for Cleveland for me.

            • Espiando

              Then why not go straight for Rocket From The Tombs/Pere Ubu or the Dead Boys?

            • 1subgenius

              RIP Arturo Vega.

    • monkeyknickers

      You’re vacationing in Vegas?

  • BuryTheNuts2

    By the way… On the fight here I read about half of Scientology, fundamentals of thought.

    Yeah, I like to torture myself…..

    So, I have ‘be’ do’ have’ Ed.
    Still BS to the nth degree!

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Oh Bury! That is your vacation reading? B&D much? Please, have another Bloody Mary… and enjoy!

    • Captain Howdy

      I’m surprised Homeland Security didn’t escort you from the plane.

    • ThetaBara

      I prefer “have” “do” “be” myself.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    What a great final realization Jon had, in his final session, that Jon was PTS to Hubbard!

    Hubbard of course, since we know from Lawrence Wright’s book’s final pages, the story from Sarge Stephen Pfauth of Hubbard telling of Hubbard’s own personal failure to dislodge the one “body thetan” that Hubbard was unable to dislodge, that even Hubbard admitted overall failure! That’s the equivalent of Hubbard saying his tech doesn’t work, a parallel realization to Jon’s! And both realizations are complete violations of Hubbard’s “Keeping Scientology Working” iron clad claims of universal success of Scientology practices, if those practices are performed “standardly.”

    Imagine what Hubbard’s auditor would have heard Hubbard say, were Hubbard to have gone in session, at the end of Hubbard’s life!

    oh, wait!
    Hubbard did supposedly go in session with Ray Mitoff, the man called up to the Ranch just before Hubbard died!

    Which is why I wish Ray Mitoff someday goes public, on what Hubbard further might have admitted, in Hubbard’s final “session” or sessions that Hubbard was given by Ray Mitoff.

  • Racnad

    I recall being told that you can’t ask an OT to demonstrate their OT abilities because the counter-postulates of those who don’t believe can prevent the abilities from manifesting. Funny, if someone has the ability to play Franz Lizt on a piano, juggle or ride a unicycle, the presence of those who might not believe they can do those things has no effect.

    • Captain Howdy

      That’s the ole Esmeralda the Medium intoning “The spirits will not appear if there are doubters present” excuse rehashed. It’s the backdoor of all psychic frauds like LRH.

    • FistOfXenu

      Just more proof the whole thing’s batshit crazy.

    • ThetaBara

      That’s some pretty weak mojo, then.

  • stateofcircle

    For all of the horrible things Hubbard was, his systematic methods of indoctrination and brainwashing was quite amazing. He controlled every little detail, the intricacies of which are staggering. From creating his own language, to convincing members never to speak of anything remotely negative, to also convincing them that any bad feelings they have or bad things that happen to them is strictly their fault for not doing the “tech” correctly, to creating non-existent “enemies”, and inventing a tediously methodical set of seemingly infinite steps for members to follow in every single aspect of their lives and their “education”/indoctrination. When you think about it, it really is impressive. That’s not to say it isn’t insanely evil and a crime against humanity. For all of his many, many, many faults, he truly was an evil mastermind when you think about the scope of what he accomplished. And I hate him for it.

    • Proud to be an SP

      Truly evil. And also why it is so difficult to mentally disentangle oneself once in. Months or years of being beaten down, maybe locked up, and told any unhappiness is your own fault, and thoughts of leaving threaten your eternal salvation not to mention you lose your friends and family who are in. It seems to require great courage and hope to escape.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        “It seems to require great courage and hope to escape.”

        And even more to speak up and protest about it once out. That is why I admire Jon, Emma, and the folks here.

    • CharleneHux

      It’s not amazing. Paranoid people are control freaks.

  • Racnad

    This is the second time in a month someone has mentioned a PTS session coming up with LRH or DM as the SP. I’m curious how this situation is handled? I’d also like to see an exploration of what the eMeter actually detects. It may not be engrams or body thetans, but it seems plain that it is more than just hand perspiration. The fact that it is not unusual for PTS handing to identify LRH, DM or the Church as the SP suggests something in the tech is actually working.

    • Kim O’Brien

      um …no . My 11 year old knows that holding onto cans does not do anything ..except make you look like an idiot for holding onto cans ..oh..and paying for it .

      PTS and LRH or even DM is pretty much a WTF and LOL because everyone knows that is you keep that stuff on the DL then send out and SOS ..no one is gonna hear you because the KSW line is down because of an SP ..or maybe an OT ..but that is just IMHO but i am not an OT …might be OK with it but NSFW is what i usually mean because LRH was so BSC that really …who does NOT get that ? Wogs..thats who. Oh ,and i can see russia from my house 😉

      • FistOfXenu

        But you explained to your 11 yr old that the 1 time he has to pay to hold onto cans is when he’s buying soup right?

        I’m PTS to $cientarCONon’s whole insane dog and pony act. Especially the rabid shit-slinging chimp at the top of it.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          “Especially the rabid shit-slinging chimp at the top of it.” Him?

          • Captain Howdy

            ‘Ooh-ooh” I’m laughing my balls off.

            • FistOfXenu

              Me too at 1st but then it changed suddenly and I realized Planet of the Apes is about $cientology and DM is the ape that goes all psycho at humans.

              It’s a metaphor.

            • Captain Howdy

              And L Ron Hubbard was Dr. Zaius. It all makes sense now!

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n8BPv43vhE

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              This is where it all started Capn’–Dr. Zaius was initiated into the ancient Tribe of Banana as a mere baby :

            • Spackle Motion

              I used to be a devoted Dr. Demento listener and I can’t see the word Dr. Zaius without hearing that Dr. Zaius song. I didn’t even know who Dr. Zaius was at the time.

            • Observer

              Well, now we know the backstory to Charlton Heston bellowing “Get your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!” They were going for his wallet.

          • MissCandle

            That’s goooood.

          • CharleneHux

            AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • sizzle8

      LRH, DM and other senior ‘terminals’ are not acceptable as PTS items according to some bulletin (which I don’t have handy). You’re supposed to find another item or go earlier.
      I remember reading that you can still get reads even while holding the cans underwater. That would negate the perspiration theory. Never tried the experiment though.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        It’s a shame that LRH didn’t do one of his very scientific experiments to make that fact–holding a piece of live electronics whilst underwater would be just the ticket.

      • Racnad

        Wouldn’t that short out the eMeter? I’d make people mad by touching the cans together.

      • 1subgenius

        “I remember reading that…..”

        Does the fact that, if your memory is correct, it was in writing give it any validity?

        • sizzle8

          Why would it?

  • stateofcircle

    I’ve always been confused about the thetan (noun) thing. So, we -humans- are thetans in a meat body, who travel around to other meat bodies as time goes on, with fully developed personalities and lives. But then there are body thetans, who live in innumerable clusters within these meat bodies, who do nothing but cause problems? Where did the body thetans go wrong? Did they attach incorrectly or at the wrong time? Are they deformed or not fully developed? Or are they just really angry and all they want to do is enturbulate the meat body of the HTIC (head thetan in charge)?

    (P.S. I love it when Hub-words like “enturbulate” and “thetan” show up with the red line underneath them on the computer because they’re not real words. Ha.)

    • George

      It’s a hierarchy. The best thetans get to be people. The weaker thetans have to be rats or insects, but could also just be parasitic and be body thetans. Some qualified thetans might choose to be a horse or a dog, just to take a break from the stress of being a human. There is also the Genetic Entity, which is like a specialized thetan that controls your bodily functions.

      • Captain Howdy

        Neat-o George. So I may get my wish to be a great white shark or a Siberian tiger after all?

        • George

          With absolutudiness.

          • Captain Howdy

            Kool.

        • George Layton

          You wouldn’t be doing that just to get out of auditing now would you Captain?

        • Robert Eckert

          Before you can become a shark, you need to practice for a while as a reg.

      • sugarplumfairy

        And the most selfish, manipulative and mercenary thetan gets to be lrh..

      • Illinoisian

        Did the genetic entity do something wrong and get assigned to taking care of body functions until he reforms, shapes up, makes amends and can get promoted up?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Or is he just perpetually in a world of shit?

        • Casabeca

          Reminds me of LDS doctrine that only the most “valiant” spirits in “pre-existence”are born to temple-worthy Mormon families. Kids who are adopted were “less valiant”.

        • George

          It’s all Hubbardian nonsense of course, but I heard he invented the Genetic Entity to cover his ass about some theologic discrepancy, like why doesn’t a meat body drop dead instantaneously if an OT decides its thetan wants to take a trip out of body.

      • SciWatcher

        This is also sounds like the late medieval theory of the “bodily spirit,” which differed from the soul, which was thought to be sentient, non-physical, and immortal. The thought was that your soul inhabited an insentient body that was made up of the four physical elements and was mortal.
        The bodily spirit was kind of an intermediary between the physical body and the soul. It was not considered immortal, and it had a very fine physical substance that was almost imperceptible, kind of like a gas. Its job was to keep the material body alive, and it was also the source of the body’s ability to move, as well as the five senses. When it departed, it broke the link which held soul
        and body together and thus caused death.

  • stateofcircle

    How do Scientologists reconcile the fact that His Midgetsty has not gone past OTIII and hasn’t received any processing whatsoever in decades? The Pope must complete the highest level of training in the Catholic church, and anyone holding any sort of position of power in Christian or Jewish faiths, such as Priests, Rabbis, Cardinals, Nuns, etc, must complete specific levels of training, as they are viewed as an authority on their religion. If he were just COB, implying that he is the the leader in only a professional capacity, maybe you could rationalize it, but he is named as the ecclesiastical leader, so how can you ecclesiastically lead a religion that you yourself haven’t practiced?

    • George

      Exactly.
      Also, he grants “dispensations” from the rules of Scientology if you are famous. Like how Tom Cruise gets to see Suri, even though Katie insulted Scientology by very publically insisting that Suri will be raised Catholic.

    • 1subgenius

      Ignorance is their bliss.

    • ze moo

      Judaism and Christianity and Islam and Buddhism all prize learning and knowledge of philosophy and the natural sciences. Clams only prize the wit and wisdom of Lroon. This dependance on the circular reasoning of Lrooon dooms clams to a sideline in any debate.

      • Espiando

        You can easily argue that Islam hasn’t been that way since the 12th Century. The moment that they burned down the Library of Alexandria, all the way to the psychos in Nigeria and Pakistan shooting vaccination campaigners today, Islam has become anti-science. To be fair, we can also say the same thing about certain veins of Christianity, from the Catholic Church’s persecution of Galileo down to the brain-dead morons in Kansas who want to enshrine a Bronze Age work of fiction as scientific fact.

        However, we shouldn’t really get into a debate about that here. That’s guaranteed to be acidic.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I brought the sulfuric!

        • ze moo

          Islam has its progressive science aficionados, they just have to keep their head down or emigrate from the more conservative (perhaps feudal is a better word) to more modern cultures. I have a niece working in Saudi Arabia this year, she has some interesting stories about how the progressive and conservatives get along (they don’t, but they do as the religious police say). I must agree that much of Islam does not embrace higher learning or the greek idea of dialogue.

          I see little difference between the caliphate of bin Laden and Pat Robertsons vision of his 700 club world. When people can be a creationist geologist (no rocks older then 6,000 BC???) and call dinosaurs ‘Jesus horses’ you know the blinders are on.

    • grundoon

      “How can you ecclesiastically lead a religion that you yourself haven’t practiced?”

      It all depends on what you mean by religion.

      In the words of L. Ron Hubbard, the “religion angle” is “entirely a matter for accountants and solicitors.” Therefore ecclesiastical leadership also is a matter of accountants and solicitors. In Scientology, to lead ecclesiastically, just make yourself the Big Piranha who bosses the shysters and bagmen. A high school dropout could do it.

      L. Ron Hubbard wrote: “(Furnish a copy of this to all attorneys dealing with our interests for us.) It is of interest to all organizations that all Scientology incorporations are religious in nature…. The use of the E-Meter in Scientology, but not Dianetics, is describable as follows… “Religions in the 1960’s use modern aids. The Electrometer is a valid religious instrument, used in Confessionals, and is in no way diagnostic and does not treat. …” In view of the “interest” the Food and Drug Administration has in the E-Meter, the above data is vital and must be impressed upon investigating agents as it is only the truth of the matter. They thought that outside the U.S. Scientology was not religious, which is false. The impression must be strongly corrected in the FDA at once….

      For information of the London and Commonwealth offices, they will soon be transferred to Church status when the Founding Church of Washington DC is given full tax exemption, and HASI Ltd. and HCO Ltd. shares will be converted to equally valuable Church certificates. Scientology 1970 is being planned on a religious organization basis throughout the world. This will not upset in any way the usual activities of any organization. It is entirely a matter for accountants and solicitors. I have evidently failed in designating HASI Ltd. as a non-profit organization and cannot transfer HASI Inc. assets to any but a non-profit corporation. Therefore other arrangements must be made, but these in no way shatter any organization or change its personnel or actions in the slightest. – HCO POLICY LETTER OF 29 OCTOBER 1962, “RELIGION”

    • 0tessa

      Because the capo of tutti capi knows that the OT-levels are crap. He also knows that he can make a lot of money with it. Like selling ‘protection’ like the other maffia branches do.

  • Observer

    L. Ron Hubbard clothed only in the glory, majesty and truth of his “tech”. (Towel present to prevent fatal engrams.)

    • FistOfXenu

      Towel? You mean tent canvas right?

    • Sokramor

      The face is still the scariest part of the picture…

    • Captain Howdy

      Ha, ha..it’s Haystack Hubbard.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Gah….my eyes!

    • SciWatcher

      God, that’s as funny/disturbing as the naked running scene in Wanderlust. Or the naked fighting scene in Borat.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I knew that was reminding me of something! LRH as Baron Vladamir Harkonnen would fantastic. He’s even got the thing on the forehead.

      • George

        Awesome!!! Don’t forget to cover your heart plug!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Oh, and then we can put DM in Sting’s little blue winged number and have LRH fantasize about about “beautiful Dave”

          • Captain Howdy

            That’s WAY more disturbing than the previous two.

            Stink (as J Rotten refers to him) is even more obnoxious than Bono.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Well, sorry for all of the Dune movie references. I happen to be a huge fan of Frank Herbert, a true master of sci-fi, pretty much the polar opposite of Hubtard’s drivel.

            • George

              Yeah, Herbert rocked, Hubbard shat himself

            • q-bird

              no need to apologize ~

            • CharleneHux

              GREAT quote. Thanks.

            • monkeyknickers

              That book is SO under-appreciated as social commentary.
              Plus! Worm-riding! It keeps one reading, def. 🙂

        • George

          I want to see a shoop of when they were sucking out the pustules on his face, that really grossed me out!!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            So glad I’m eating cheese right now. Nothing like a good, stinky Compte with pustule talk.

            • George

              Cheese… the perfect example of how expectations create experience. I recently ate a cheese that smelled worse than any foot fungus you could imagine.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Cheese…..I stink, therefore I am.

      • monkeyknickers

        DUNE!

    • CharleneHux

      lulzy 🙂

  • Robert Eckert

    OTIIIX is offered free to those who successfully complete OTVII??? That revelation challenged everything I thought I knew about Scientology until I remembered that nobody ever “successfully” completes OTVII.

    • grundoon

      Too many people went crazy on OT III, so Hubbard withdrew it and replaced it with OT III X. Apparently the people who had already done the defective level would have to redo the revised level, but they wouldn’t have to pay again provided they laid out the big $$$$ fot OT VII. (Ex’s, did I get it right?)

      • CharleneHux

        Close enough.
        OT 3X was part of Hubbard’s original Bridge. That Bridge went R6EW (Dianetics. EW = “end words”), Clearing Course, OT 1, 2, 3, OT 7EP and then OT 3X. After New Era Dianetics (NED) and Ned for OTs (OT5) came out, and OT 4 (OT drug rundown), not many people did the old bridge any more.
        A lot of people who didn’t do well on OT3 were put on the old Bridge in the 80s. Fancy way to say they hadn’t gone clear so had to do it over again.
        Sometimes one of the OT C/Ses (case supervisor) would put someone on OT7EP (end phenomenon) and then OT3X. They claimed some needed the OT7EP “boost” to get the full effect of OT3.
        Most of those people had paid for an old OT package from the 70s and in that package, OT3X was never charged.
        Don’t ask me what was on the old stuff, I never saw it – I just worked at AOLA for quite a few years. I left soon after reading OT3.

  • Bob Gravlin

    And the Dark Lord has been trying to convince people as in the first lie he told in Genesis chapter 3 vs 5 when he promised Eve, “then you will be like gods knowing good and evil” and people have been buying that lie ever since and in the case of COS spending their lives, and life savings in the process. And when will we learn that we are just creatures and do our best to develop our God given abilities and be content with our strengths as well as our limitations?

  • LongNeckGoose

    Thanks for this story. I love reading accounts from people who went all the way through the OT levels, describing how utterly stupid these levels were. Magoo’s YouTube video made a big impression on me for the same reason.

  • Roman

    This post resonates with me. I too had a similar test as the tin foil I presented to “OTs” when they would badger me about going on the Bridge to total Freedom and would tease me with the idea that I was throwing away my eternity. Growing up, I constantly heard OTs talk about postulating and changing different weather patterns and natural catastrophes, communicating with LRH in the theta universe, changing things such as traffic lights at will and having full cause over matter, energy, space and time. Then I listened to hundreds of LRH lectures, in many of which would speak of things like “nipping” which was defined in the tech dictionary as blasting a human body with two flows of electricity, killing the body, or being able to move things with one’s mind. LRH would say he was capable of these things along with OTs in such a nonplussed manner, but would say something like, “But no one cares about sideshow tricks and there’s no need to demonstrate them here”. Are you kidding me? I did not have a single Scientologist friend who did not secretly or openly want, and I quote, “Jedi Powers”. My friends would speak of creating universes – yes universes – with they mind. Not planets. Universes. So when I would pose my arguments to different OTs when they were let loose on me, I would ask them to please for the love of LRH, just move a god damn inanimate object half an inch without outside force other than their own non-physical intention….they would look dejected. Okay, so if you can manipulate weather, kill people with electricity from thousands of miles away and move shit around a room, I’m offering a truce if you can move this inanimate object half an inch and I will dedicate myself to the Bridge. Nothing. At. All.

    On top of that, I’ve seen dozens of OTs die from cancer. Malignant cancer. I’ve also see tons of OTs who live as paupers financially, who’s children or parents get declared or hooked on drugs, etc. How are these OTs? Doesn’t that contradict that definition of OT – Cause over Life…..

    The fact is, every Scientologists KNOWS they are chasing a pipe dream. A pipe dream that serves them with a decently workable therapy but no farther than that – a psychotherapy. Imagine if a car salesman sells you on buying a Rolls Royce or a Bugatti. You pay for said vehicle. A Hyundai Elantra is delivered to your door. Was it a car? Yes. A very shitty car.

    • Sidney18511

      Roman…I enjoy reading your posts and it seems to me that with all your years spent swimming in the crazy, although you suffered more then we know….you pulled yourself out of the muck and made a life for yourself. You give us the inside info through the eyes of a child who had no choice but to live in the sci-fi land of LRH. And for that, I thank you and wish you well.

      • Roman

        You’re welcome, Sidney. There’s no real trick to getting out and keeping your sanity. You basically have to come to terms with the fact that you’re going to lose your sanity completely – along with all the consequences that entails, but lie to yourself and force yourself to believe it gets better – because at the time, hope was about the only virtue I was capable of. Basically no good manual out there for leaving a cult you’ve got everything invested in. I don’t wish it on anyone. I can’t say I was one of the “lucky ones” as I lost everything and am still rebuilding a normal life. But I have been inured and steeled to the games the Church plays and I’ve figured out how to fight them on their level, along with all their buttons. I’ve also figured out the key action to what’s been destroying them, and I push that button harder than any.

    • BosonStark

      It has only been 8 years since video started becoming pervasive as more and more people got broadband and could post and watch videos on sites like YouTube. It really has become a time of see for yourself and compare. For example, see people of various talents and abilities. Are their claims real? You can also see consumer products demonstrated and critiqued.

      It’s also a chance to learn and explore all kinds of things from others, and the experiences they’ve had doing something, like Tory has described her experiences in Scientology — listen to L. Ron Hubbard talk, as well as see him in a few video interviews, without getting into a pressure situation of having to buy something, or accept everything he says as the wisdom of the ages.

      Whether you want to get into hang-gliding or Scientology, the Internet provides the means to find out what these things cost to do, and what they are all about as far as dangers and benefits, and what peoples experiences are with it.

      The first video I saw on the web of a Scientologist was Tom Cruise. I thought he sounded fascist and nutz. It was comical and scary at the same time. Then I saw the videos of ex-Scientologist Tory and could see that she was honestly telling stories of her real experiences in Scientology, and that all Scientologists weren’t crazy fascists like Tom Cruise or blowhard loons like Hubbard. What a relief.

      • CharleneHux

        Tory isn’t a Scientologist anymore. We all get better and saner when we leave.

    • aquaclara

      Roman, Sidney just posted a note to you in today (Monday)’s blog post. ….

  • Jgg2012

    “judging from what L. Ron Hubbard wrote, he seemed to be selling these magical abilities.”

    The impetus for the Protestant reformation was, in part, the selling of indulgences, ie people could buy forgiveness for sins by giving priests money or gifts. Some priests lived like Davey (compared to the average person). True believers felt that the Vatican was becoming more like a business and less like a religion.
    Sound familiar?

    • Espiando

      For those of us who’ve lived with Marty calling himself “the Martin Luther of Scientology” for the last couple of years, yeah, it does. Like you’re the first to have this particular brainstorm?

      • Jgg2012

        Did Rathbun really compare himself to Martin Luther?

        • Espiando

          More than once.

  • KNMF

    I think most OTs hit a stage where they have to decide if they’re going to continue lying to themselves.

    • Tory Christman

      As an OT 7, I will say I knew from DAY ONE that it did NOT do what many OT 7’s had claimed, yet I remained on it for 7 F*&^% Years! Why? I mention it here in case ANY one lurking, who is in a similar boat as I was…sees this: C of $ is *great* at making you feel like it’s YOUR FAULT. You’re not OT? Well, YOU must be: a) PTS b) Low Toned c) Out Ethics d) Not being responsible enough d) Of course…need MOAR auditing! The list goes on and on. Here’s my two cents: BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN! I’m NOT kidding. I’ve said that for nearly 13 years now and WAY too many Scientologists have died, way too young. Take YOUR life back, if you’re “in” and reading this…and get out while u still can enjoy life. We all did—and things are not only fine, they’re FANTASTIC!! Love to ALL 🙂 Tory/Magoo

      • Tory Christman

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVhqHGWZEs
        My two cents re OT or Superman….:)

        • Exterrier

          Terrific. you do such a great job, Tory. Soooooo articulate and expressive, and thorough.
          When I decided I was through with Scientology, which was after hearing all the congress lectures they sold me, and realizing that it was built by constantly selling the next big breakthrough that would make up for all the other breakthroughs that never worked either, I decided that I might as well look on the net and read the negatives and exposes. When I read A Piece of Blue Sky, it was tremendously eye opening about Hubbard and his nature, and the true criminality and falseness involved in it all. It actually was news to me that Hubbard was not at least somewhat honest and trying to help people, etc., because it is too outrageous a scam…..nobody could be that dishonest, and no people would ever go for something that did not have merits or payoffs up the lines. But Atack’s book really laid it open, and man o man does he really lay the OT scam open in this interview with Tony. The other reason, by the way, that I was through, was the phenomenon that I called the Stuck Sevens…. all these people who seemed to be on OT 7 forever, and not doing well as people, and even dying of cancer. They obviously were not OT. I was on lowly intro levels, but could see that it did not work, obviously. Then there were all those disconnections and declares going on…..too weird.
          But people like you and Jon and the ExKids and ESMB message board fill in all the blanks so very, very well, once someone like me leaves and goes on line. Thanks to all of you.
          PS…Tory, you are so right….life opened up after I dropped silentology…… they kept selling me the idea that I was a failure unless I gave them all my time and money, and now that I dropped them, I have plenty of both, and wonderful real friends, and big and exciting things going on. Keep telling people how nice it can be away from all that emotional blackmail in the”church”.

          • Tory Christman

            Thank you so much, Exterrier 🙂 I greatly appreciate your kind words How wonderful to read how great things have changed for you, too: Congratulations!!

    • CharleneHux

      True for me. OT3 did it. It’s like making the decision to live in an unsubstantiated fantasy within a bubble world of doom or see if I could do better without it.
      Life is so much better without scn of any kind in it.

  • CommunicatorIC

    Update concerning the documentary about Independent Scientology, “Scientologists At War,” to be shown on Channel 4 (UK), 9pm 17 June 2013:
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/scientologists-at-war

    The documentary is being rebroadcast throughout the week.
    Channel 4 – 9:00pm Mon, 17 Jun
    Channel 4 +1 – 10:00pm Mon, 17 Jun
    4seven – 1:10am Tue, 18 Jun
    4seven – 10:00pm Tue, 18 Jun
    Channel 4 – 11:40pm Wed, 19 Jun
    Channel 4 +1 – 12:40am Thu, 20 Jun
    4seven 1:35am – Thu, 20 Jun
    4seven 12:05am – Sun, 23 Jun
    4seven 9:00pm – Sun, 23 Jun

    HT – WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/scientologists-at-war-documentary-joseph-martin-roast-beef-productions-uk-channel-4-17-june.111534/page-2#post-2318808

    The Scotsman preview: http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/tv-and-radio/tv-previews-the-white-queen-scientologists-at-war-1-2968569

    Johnny Stringer review from a documentary film festival: http://jonnystringer.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/docfest-twenty-day-3/

    .

    • Espiando

      So what kind of pimp position on this program do you have?

      • CommunicatorIC

        I simply relay news, typically about Independent Scientology but sometimes about other matters.

        • Espiando

          You’ve been relaying “news” about this particular item on a schedule that borders on the obsessive. We know it’s on Monday. We don’t need to know every single little wet fart across the different channels that it’s going to be rebroadcast on and when, especially since most of us don’t live in the UK and can’t get these channels.

          If you want to convince us that you’re not OSA or a CoS provocateur, you’re not doing a good job.

          • FistOfXenu

            Espiando, for what it’s worth I don’t think he’s anything to do with DM’s branch of the Hubbard cult. If he’s any thing he’s a Marty “the warrior-wannabee” Rathbun shill because when I look at the channel’s link it looks like Marty features in it. I just wanna know if I can get it here.

            • Espiando

              FoX; There are a couple of ways that I expressed in another thread. First of all, someone should be torrenting it. It’ll probably be up at The Pirate Bay within a couple of hours of broadcast (I’m on a private torrent site that specializes in British television, and it’ll be up there as well). The other way is this: There’s a freeware program called Expat Shield. Install it, and it puts a proxy on your system that, when activated, gives you a British IP. It’ll allow you to access, among other things, 4OD, Channel 4’s stream-on-demand system on their website. Channel 4’s very good about putting stuff up on 4OD shortly after broadcast.

              Expat Shield: http://www.expatshield.com
              Channel 4: http://www.channel4.com

              And whether or not CIC is a Scilon or one of Marty’s Martians doesn’t matter. He/she/clam is still annoying.

            • George

              “He/she/clam is still annoying”

              So what

            • Espiando

              So someone needs to call he/she/clam out on his. Just like we did with you and your bullshit, Original George.

            • George

              There can be only one

            • aquaclara

              Thank you for the ideas on how to view this. I am also w/c ing “torrent” just because I like learning new things. It should be an interesting show, even though the indie movement has appeal to just three or four people. Plus Marty and a Martian

            • grundoon

              Download this FREE software and install it on your system and you’ll get lots of FREE stuff for FREE! An Anon on the net told me it’s legit! And FREE!

            • Espiando

              I’m running it on my system. I won’t run anything on my system that leaves my system open to attack or causes damage. It works. I’ve tried it.

              You’re a fuckwit.

            • sugarplumfairy

              but a funny one!

            • grundoon

              So what kind of pimp position on this program do you have?

            • Espiando

              None, other than the fact that I’ve run it, I know it works, it does no damage, and it’ll help people access the TV program via streaming, something they’re more morally apt to accept than torrents. In other words, I’m trying to help people. You, on the other hand, are simply a fuckwit, and you’re trying to call my integrity into question by claiming that I’m out to cause damage to people’s systems.

              Piss off.

            • grundoon

              Espiando is:

              a) a pseudonym known across the Net for integrity beyond question, always helping strangers, and never falling victim to malware

              b) self-described professional asshole

            • Espiando

              c) Both

              Grundoon is:

              a) a Scilon

              b) a toady for the Indies

              c) a fuckwit

              d) someone who named himself after a character in a comic strip written by a right-wing reactionary

              e) all of the above

            • grundoon

              You befoul the memory of the great Walt Kelly. Google moar. Your l33t hax0r skillz crossed him up with some other cartoonist.
              https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Pogo_-_Earth_Day_1971_poster.jpg/240px-Pogo_-_Earth_Day_1971_poster.jpg

              Wikipedia: Perhaps the most famous example of the strip’s satirical edge came into being on May 1, 1953, when Kelly introduced a friend of Mole’s: a wildcat named “Simple J. Malarkey,” an obvious caricature of Senator Joseph McCarthy. This showed significant courage on Kelly’s part, considering the influence the politician wielded at the time and the possibility of scaring away subscribing newspapers. When The Providence Bulletin issued an ultimatum in 1954, threatening to drop the strip if Malarkey’s face appeared in the strip again, Kelly had Malarkey throw a bag over his head as Miss “Sis” Boombah (a Rhode Island Red hen) approached, explaining “no one from Providence should see me!” Kelly thought Malarkey’s new look was especially appropriate because the bag over his head resembled a Klansman’s hood. Kelly later attacked the Klan directly….

              In the early 1960s, Kelly took on the ultra-conservative John Birch Society with a series of strips dedicated to Mole and Deacon’s efforts to weed out Anti-Americanism (as they saw it) in the swamp, which led them to form “The Jack Acid Society.” … The Jack Acids (the name is an obvious pun on “jackasses”) modeled themselves on the only “real” Americans: Indians. Everyone the Jack Acids suspected of not being a true American was put on their blacklist, until eventually everyone but Mole himself was blacklisted….

              By the time the 1968 presidential campaign rolled around, it seemed the entire swamp was populated by P.T. Bridgeport’s “wind-up candidates,” including representations of George Romney, Richard Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, Robert F. Kennedy and George Wallace as wind-up toys. Wallace also appeared as The Prince of Pompadoodle, a puffed-up, diminutive rooster chick…. In the early 1970s, Kelly used a collection of characters he called “the Bulldogs” to mock the secrecy and perceived paranoia of the Nixon administration…

              Kelly’s use of satire and politics often drew fire from those he was criticizing and their supporters. Due to complaints, a number of papers censored or dropped the strip altogether, while others moved it to the editorial page. When he started a controversial storyline, Kelly usually created alternate, deliberately innocuous daily strips that papers could opt to run instead of the political ones for a given week…. Kelly referred to these strips as “bunny strips,” because more often than not he populated the alternate strips with the least offensive material he could imagine—fluffy little bunnies telling safe, insipid jokes. (Nevertheless, many of the bunny strips are subtle reworkings of the theme of the replaced strip.) … Kelly told fans that if all they saw in Pogo were fluffy little bunnies, then their newspaper didn’t believe they were capable of thinking for themselves—or didn’t want them to.

            • Espiando

              My apologies. I accidentally mixed up Walt Kelly with Al Capp, who was a right-wing reactionary.

            • SciWatcher

              Or maybe he’s Marty in disguise. He sure does like to promote the guy.

            • tetloj

              Communicator IC is a regular poster on esmb and is as regularly critical of scientology as anyone here – including independent brands

            • Espiando

              But virtually every single one of CIC’s posts is a reblog of some “news” that, essentially, we all know about. He/she/clam is a gossipeuse, and not a very good one at that.

            • ThetaBara

              If you’re going to bother to type out “he/she/it” then adding a feminized ending to the perfectly serviceable word “gossip” just makes you look like a jerk, Mister.

            • Espiando

              Then why doesn’t CIC go back to Hugbox Central and post here when he/she/clam actually has something substantial to post about and/or wants to contribute to the conversation and/or fun that we have here at ARC HQ?

            • tetloj

              What CIC has posted here has links of interest to me (reviews of the channel 4 doco). I have no debate with you expressing a view that posting this information here does not add value if that’s your opinion. It is my belief that CIC is not OSA or COS provocateur one of Ron’s witnesses, as evidenced by material which CIC posts on Marty’s blog, some of which survives moderation. I get a bit sick of the random calling out of people as OSA, when there is evidence elsewhere that this is probably not the case.

            • Espiando

              I was reiterating a theory that John had regarding CIC, and how this crapflood from he/she/clam has created an environment of substantiation for said theory. He/she/clam surviving the Marty Machete is no proof either way, since CIC’s posts tend to give Marty intense blowjobs, especially the repetitive pimping of a show that he’s going to appear in. Your view does not invalidate my view. Or aren’t you willing to grant me beingness, Scilon?

            • tetloj

              roflmao

              p.s. John?

            • FistOfXenu

              Oh ho! So you think the warrior could also be a ninja? How impressive of him if that’s true. From a bully that calls himself a hero to a creeping pretend fan boy calling himself a hero with a puppet. Not impossible to believe.

          • Espiando

            You do realize that an Anon receiving down-votes from moralfags has always been considered a badge of honor, right?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Dude, did you wipe with sandpaper this morning or what?

            • Espiando

              CoS does not have a monopoly on vapid stupidity. The free-range clams also exhibit it. I’m sick and tired of CIC pimping this show like it’s their red-headed step-sister and the family’s starving. He/she/clam is doing it here, at Rinder’s, at Marty’s, at WWP, at ESMB, etc. Once about a week out, then a reminder, say, tomorrow or early Monday, that’d be fine. But every single day, and more than once when there’s “news” like a full rebroadcast schedule on Channel 4’s subsidiary networks? On US-based boards, where we don’t get Channel 4?

              I’m not a nice person to begin with. I’m going to call people out on this. And, whoopsie, I hurt some feelings in the process and people think I’m a bad, bad person. Fine by me. I’ve made my living more than once by being a professional asshole. I have no more feelings to hurt.

              And sandpaper is actually more effective than some of the stuff I’ve had to use in the Army, hotels, and lower-cost public transportation depots. I’ve actually wished for sandpaper at that point. And the late, lamented Queen Mother preferred the more-abrasive wipes; she got used to them during the War and kept the habit for the rest of her life. If it’s good enough for Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, it’s good enough for me.

            • SP ‘Onage

              I like you because you’re straight up and honest about how you feel, no bullshit or hugfests when it comes to you.

            • George Layton

              I gave you an up vote here because I don’t want to honor a
              post that I consider irresponsible. I believe if you were to look through my
              post history you would come to know I’m not much more than one of the moralfags
              out there posting. Never been to a protest, let alone involved in one. Never
              been in the church/cult so can’t speak from experience. Simply one of the vapidly stupid adding to
              that drivel one of the superior Anons need wade through in the ongoing watch
              necessary in the world we live in today. My stupidity is abundantly noticeable
              in grammar (thank the Disqus for spell check) and choice of words usage. Hell I’m
              even idiot enough to use my real name on blogs. The one thing I do have is my
              point of view and my self-expression on the blogs, and my belief that I have
              the right to use that self-expression responsibly thereon.

            • Espiando

              Yes, you are being vapidly stupid. I support your right to be, just as I’m sure you’ll support my right to make fun of you when you do so.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ron says:

          • George

            I hope someone ‘splains these politics. I’ve been around here for years, but I_don’t_know what these posters are fighting about.

            • Espiando

              It isn’t politics. It’s someone, namely me, finally standing up to someone’s astroturfing-like advertising of a television program that people in the US can’t even see (unless they follow my instructions from later in this thread). The fact that the OP only ever shows up here when he/she/clam wishes to pass along information that tends to be on the salacious or controversial side (like passing the word along, in two different threads, that Marty called us a cult) is another reason.

              Too many people here have been polite to CIC. Me, I’m like Tina Turner. I can be nice and easy when I want to, but I prefer to do it nice and rough. Except without the “nice” part.

            • George

              Most people don’t live in the US

            • Espiando

              And even less people live in the UK. The truth is that the vast majority of people in the world will not be able to see this on television on Monday when it’s broadcast.

            • grundoon

              It’s just the Internet. Along with a pseudonym, you are free to adopt an “asshole” persona if you so choose.

          • media_lush

            if you want us to believe that you’re not an annoying cunt you’re not doing a good job

            • Espiando

              Takes one to know one.

  • media_lush

    For those in or close to New Orleans it looks like you have a Christmas treat:

    The NOLA Project announced its 2013-1014 schedule. It includes a new work by Jim Ftizmorris, a play by company director A.J. Allegra, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, and a dark comedy about children’s Scientology pageant.

    Dec. 6-22 A Very Merry Unauthorized Children’s Scientology Pageant by Kyle Jarrow, in which children portray Tom Cruise, Kirstie Alley and John Travolta

    …. I hope someone manages a good quality video and posts it

    • Captain Howdy

      Actually “A Very Merry Unauthorized Children’s Scientology Pageant” predates Chanology. It is wonderfully done.

      http://youtu.be/YD9FrbgFafM

      http://youtu.be/2eAon_YhbPo

      • media_lush

        ha, looks pretty good – I think there would definitely be a dvd market for this if they had it professionally filmed; given the quality of HD camcorders nowadays [especially in low light] the only thing really needed here would be proper audio recording – 3 or 4 radio mics with an overhead boom instantly turns anything amateurish into dvd sellable [slight exaggeration perhaps] … 3 cameras on tripods and voila. I think this is a kind of project that a university film project crew would eat up given the subject matter… they could “making of” at the same time to turn it into a documentary as most media courses require at least one documentary as course work. A win win situation for all involved.

        • 1subgenius

          Soundtrack is available and its fucking awesome.
          (Child’s voice):
          “L. Ron Hubbard. Some say the “L” stands for liar, but that’s not true.
          It stands for Lafayette.”
          When this production debuted they got fair-gamed.

          • Captain Howdy
            • 1subgenius

              Yet another reason why the south park guys will not be doing a Scientology musical, as some here have suggested they do.

            • media_lush

              don’t really think that “it’s been done” argument falls here…. the South Park guys set the precedent and had a helluva time doing their Broadway Mormon thing…. as an outsider I think Trey and Matt would love the idea of a scion musical as it it’s just so ripe and bursting of lulz…. it’s not as if the collapse of the cult is no longer in the public zeitgeist…. quite the opposite. If I was a betting man I would put the odds of them actually doing this at 60:40

            • 1subgenius

              You’re on.
              We need a time frame and a bet.
              I’ll go any amount. You set the time limit.
              I was going to give you 1,000 to 1.
              (Ooooh, I see you’re not a betting man. Hmmmm.)
              Very happy to see the Pageant back on stage though.

  • Wow, thanks for that insight Jon. They should have you write the promo for those levels. “After finishing OTIII and gaining the realization that you received no benefit from it one then moves on to OTIV. And after finishing OTIV and cogniting that you received no benefit from it one then moves on to the vistas that await on OTV.”

    Announcing to your auditor that you were PTS to Hubbard, man that’s classic!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Scientology – old delusional people wearing Clear and OT bracelets.

    • Exterrier

      Hey, that was a good video. She is ok. Good that she caught on to the scam. She sure chucked a giant clear bracelet into the swamp. And thanks to Jon for a devastating look at OT nonsense. I wondered why the OT’s I knew felt compelled to drive fast and try to look forceful, and expect parking spaces to appear and lights to change, but so many of them were getting cancer, or were just plain weak in other ways. I bailed before I got to that crap, and certainly would have bailed on the first OT level.

    • Phil de Fontenay

      Ha ha!

      I totally refused to buy one of those silly, cheap looking, over-priced pieces of crap!

      Maybe I should’ve gotten one to remind me, “Hey, remember the time I got cheated out of all my cash?” ~lol

      Phil

  • CharleneHux

    Wow. Go Jon Atack.
    I was PTS to L Ron Hubbard, too. Though the thought crossed my mind many times while in the SO, like:
    1) After the FBI raids (my first week in the SO)
    2) After being given objectives in response to my disagreeing with KSW (and while disagreeing with KSW)
    3) When staff were put on beans and rice for months as per Hubbard policy
    4) After seeing the size of the RPF in PAC and meeting some of them, who were terrific people and not the least bit criminal, just original thinkers
    5) After the Coletto murder/suicide (Hubbard policy not to use police, you know)
    6) After a child at the CEO nearly died in my arms because of lack of proper medical handling – I’d gotten him antibiotics from the clinic by pretending to be his mother, but the knowitall Hubbard trained Medical Officer flushed his direly-needed medicine down the sink. I sent his mother to the hospital with him. Thank GOD she had more sense than the rest of them.
    7) When realizing the parents were dissuaded or stopped from seeing their kids and seeing the overcrowded, impersonal and negligent conditions of SO kids (After seeing this, I was sure Hubbard hated kids)
    8) After the failed attempt to “rehabilitate” me to want to stay on staff and toe the line by the use of intimidation, imprisonment, nutritional and sleep deficiency, degradation, re-indoctrination and re-education in scn, sec checks, telling me I had evil intentions, and forcibly separating me from my pre-school son (all per Hubbard policy)
    Good on ya, Jon. I wish I had the guts to tell them that when I was in the SO, but it makes me grin to hear that you did. Thanks. 🙂

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Your story is the real story. Hope you can tell more. I probably know you. I absolutely know it is the truth. Thank you for speaking.

      • CharleneHux

        Thanks, TheHoleDNE. I’ve told these stories before – in vids and in writing – and I’m sure we know each other, at least on the forums. My real name is Sheila. I’m on WWP as Gottabrain and I’ve been fully out of scn for over two decades. (I celebrate it every year out) 🙂

      • CharleneHux

        I hope we all continue to tell the truth until the con of the cult of Scientology goes broke.

  • 0tessa

    Jon, reading you is like the real ‘Truth Rundown’. If anything ‘indicates’ somewhere, somehow, it is what you write. Your writings are priceless.

  • Phil de Fontenay

    I finished OTVIII a few years ago before SPD… => SP Declare ~lol

    No special OT abilities to announce, NADA, ZIP. Unless you call draining bank accounts an OT ability 😉

    Of course registrars were always happy to tell you to borrow money because when you go OT it will be soooooo easy to get it back with all the powerful abilities you will have. Big surprise, they were lying. It never occurred to me to question these registrars who were nowhere on the Bridge themselves. They were just continuing L. Ron Hubbard’s big, juicy lies.

    I have to say though, the con was so subtle and so clever that I missed it completely. And I am not a gullible person. Well done Hubbard, you cooked up a scheme that is still working to this day…. But not for too much longer. What can I say, Miscavige just isn’t good enough to keep it going. Talk about a bull in a china shop ~lol

    Cheers!

    Phil de Fontenay – OT 0!

    • CharleneHux

      Nice to see you posting, Phil.

  • Great article but Um I don’t see where you gave copyright credit to DC Comics for the Wonder Twins illo unless I missed it somewhere.