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Dianetics: Your Life Was Ruined Before Birth by Your Parents and Their Dumb Culture

Prenatal engram material?

Prenatal engram material?

Welcome to our ongoing project, where we blog a 1950 first edition of Scientology’s bible, Dianetics, with the help of ex-Scientologist, Bay Area lawyer, blogger, and author Vance Woodward. Go here for the first post in the series.

Vance, in this next chapter of the section on therapy, “The Auditor’s Role,” Hubbard lays down some pretty important guidelines which still seem to be in force today.

One of the key ideas in Hubbard’s therapy is that the listener — which he has named the “auditor” — must not interfere with the person he’s listening to.

There’s a quick sneer at “the couch” in this chapter, and it’s a telling one. For Hubbard, the practitioner in that other talking cure — the psychoanalyst — is too controlling, too judgmental, and too powerful.

In Hubbard’s scheme, the auditor must not cast judgment on what his “preclear” is saying. It’s more important just to get it out of him.

To drive that point home, Hubbard reveals here what he calls “The Auditor’s Code.”

It’s too long to quote here, but we can cite its main points — Auditors must be courteous, kind, quiet, trustworthy, courageous, patient, thorough, persistent, and uncommunicative — meaning, not commenting on or evaluating what the preclear is saying.

Vance, if we were just talking about how to be a good listener and supportive friend, and not talking about woo-woo engrams and the reactive mind, these would be solid guidelines for any person who wanted to help a troubled friend unburden themselves. Or are we missing something?

VANCE: You miss nothing. When I first read this, even though I was only a teenager, I had already met one or two frustrating conversation partners in my life. And reading the Auditor’s Code seemed like a good description of the difference between pleasant and unpleasant conversationalists. Besides, I aspired to be a good communicator. I think I improved my conversation skills by using the Auditor’s Code. Of course, hundreds of authors have summed up the components of a good conversationalist in hundreds of ways. I think I would have found ways to improve either way. I just happened to come across Hubbard’s way first. It was all part of getting sucked in: being young and naive. (Now, I might be old and naive, but that is a difference.)

Incidentally, I think the Code gives us some insight into Hubbard’s skills of manipulation. The Code basically lays it out. Never insult or get angry with or even directly contradict the mark. Win the mark’s trust. But at the same time, the auditor assumes charge of what is to be done. As Hubbard puts it, “The patient cannot see his own aberrations. That is one of the reasons why the auditor is there. The patient needs to be bolstered to face the unknowns of his life. That is another reason the auditor is there. The patient would not dare address the world which has gotten inside him and turn his back upon the world that is outside him unless he has a sentry.”

Reading this as a hopeful preclear, I thought, Gee, I have all these aberrations that I don’t even know about. It will be interesting to find out what they are.

So I was primed to have somebody else come in and start controlling my mind, if you follow. I was prepped to have an auditor “help me” discover what my aberrations were, i.e. to have me keep guessing at what my aberrations were until I guessed acceptable ones. For example, I had a problem that made me resist giving my life savings to the Church of Scientology. I had another inclination to have fun in life instead of taking Scientology courses every evening and all day on the weekends for months on end. I had this weird notion that Hubbard might not have had all the answers. I even privately questioned whether David Miscavige was such a great guy. Fortunately, auditing helped cure me of these aberrations. But my point is I never would have even realized that these were aberrations without the help of auditing.

THE BUNKER: Let’s move on into the next chapter, “Diagnosis.” It’s a lengthy one, but for today’s post we want to cite something that comes up early in it.

Hubbard is preparing auditors for the sorts of engrams they’re going to encounter when they work with preclears. And in 1950, he says, most of the material they are likely to run into will have a somewhat nostalgic flair…

As this work is written, most of the engrams that will be found in adults come from the first quarter of the 20th century. This was the period of “Aha, Jack Dalton, at last I have you in my possession!” It was the period of “Blood and Sand” and Theda Bara. It was the period of bootleg whisky and woman suffrage. It covered the days of “flaming youth” and the “The Yanks are Coming,” and bits of such color will be demanding action in the engram banks. Dianetic auditors have picked up whole passages of the Great Play “The Drunkard” out of prenatal engrams, not as a piece of funny “corn” but as Mama’s sincere and passionate effort to reform Papa. Superdrama, Mellerdrammer. And not only that but also tragedy. The hangover of the Gay Nineties, when the “business girl” had just begun to be “free” and Carrie Nation was saving the world at the expense of bartenders will be common fare in engrams found in today’s adults. Yesterday’s cliches and absurdities become, tragically enough, today’s engramic commands.

The reason that these 1950 subjects were running around with 1920s corn-pone drama messing up their heads, you see, is that they had absorbed prenatal engrams as their parents — people of a previous generation — had fought and screwed and talked loudly about their dumb culture, creating engrams in the zygote hugging mother’s uterine wall.

Apparently, as Scientology became more about past lives and less about time spent in the womb, these ideas receded. But Vance, we sort of love the idea that today, for example, the current generation is screwed up because of bad grindhouse movie dialogue spouted by our irresponsible parents.

Should we be taking this a little more seriously? Come on, this is comedy gold.

VANCE: It’s like we’re in a creative fiction class and Hubbard is telling us, “Go ahead and just get that stuff out on the page no matter how insipid it is. Just get it out. And with practice, you’ll be as good at lying as I am.”

And I’m thinking of the impact that 1970s adult movies could have had on my generation. You’d figure that we’d have a glut of thirty-something pizza delivery guys and plumbers. And all this time I thought the sound tracks were funny. Now I’m realizing that I’m just replaying prenatal engrams in my head. I feel so dirty. I’m so confused. I must need more auditing. Can you spot me a few thou’?

Whatever else we can say, Hubbard must have been auditing some interesting folks. Can you imagine having a preclear “remembering” his time in his mother’s womb and say, as Hubbard puts it, “Hey, what’s she got in here? Why, Goddamn her, that’s beginning to burn! It’s a douche. Say! Let me out of here! Bring me up to present time!” Now admit it, having just the thinnest possibility of that happening in auditing must make you want to run out and find yourself a preclear.

THE BUNKER: Ah, you’ve just hit on it, monsieur. The motivation for auditor training: voyeurism. Surely we’ll come back to this concept as we push on. Next week, we’ll continue on with “Diagnosis.”

Next week — Hysterical Hyper-Sight, and Other Lost Concepts of Dianetics

 
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Jenna Miscavige Hill’s Book Cited in New French Senate Committee Report

BeyondBeliefOur man in Paris, Jonny Jacobsen, gives us another report on the French Senate’s interest in Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book, Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape. Jonny blogs at Infinite Complacency.

The influence of Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book Beyond Belief is already reaching into government circles here: already praised by one French senator, it gets an honourable mention in an official report.

It got a pretty harsh review however, from a leading French Scientologist. But it turns out he hasn’t actually read it.

Her book, issued in French as Rescapée de la Scientologie, has received a lot of positive coverage in the media here.

We reported last month how her account of her experience growing up inside Scientology was praised during a hearing of a French Senate committee investigating influence of cult-like movements in the health sector.

They published their findings on Wednesday, presenting a set of 41 proposals to tighten up regulation in the sector to make it easier to go after anyone pushing fraudulent treatments.

The report deals with a whole range of organisations and issues, much of which has nothing to do with Scientology. Buried in its pages however, Hill’s book is cited and even quoted. (A pity they managed to misspell her first name three times: Jeanna?)

Hill and other children of Scientologists working in the Sea Org were kept at a place called the Ranch, the report notes, citing her statement that she never saw a doctor during her whole time there. (If you haven’t read the book yet, have a look at The Underground Bunker’s review.)

The report also mentions Hill’s account of how the movement frowned on the use of any conventional medicine to treat fevers and pain; and how even her own grandmother, a qualified nurse, was forbidden to practice because of the movement’s hostility to conventional medicine.

And the report quotes a passage from her book in which she records her superiors’ reaction when she was extremely sick with a high fever, constantly vomiting and on the point of passing out. She was simply told to keep drinking liquids and get some rest (all this from pages 28-29 of the report).

Hill’s account served to reinforce the account given by Roger Gonnet when he testified before the committee last month. Gonnet himself told how he would have lost a client on the Purification Rundown if had not broke with protocol and taken her out of the treatment. (For more on this, see “The Rundown: a close call” at Infinite Complacency.)

The committee proceedings, also published Wednesday, show that more than once senators put the contents of Hill’s book to witnesses -– including Scientology’s representative, Eric Roux.

It was Senator Muguette Dini who, as we have reported, praised the book during an earlier session. She confronted Roux with Hill’s account of the Purification Rundown and the health risks that she said it could entail. Why had he not spoken about this in his presentation, she wanted to know?

His reply: “I think that your source is lying in 50 percent of what she is telling, and from beginning to end if, being the niece of the ecclesiastical leader of the Church, her comments are being passed on by the mainstream press. It’s very ‘people.’

“In France, tens of thousands of people have followed the purification programme, there has never been a single problem… We’re talking about a religious choice made by people in good health.”

He mentions later that he hasn’t actually read the book.

He only made the admission when another senator pressed him on his dismissal of the book.

He had formed his view on the strength of extracts he had read in the press -– and on the official statement put out by Scientology in the United States.

Perhaps you believe her, he told the senators, “…but it’s difficult for me to say what is true and what is false, because I have only read extracts.”

Does anyone have an aspirin?

— Jonny Jacobsen

Jonny has now posted at his blog a lengthier version of the story he did for us yesterday, about British crime writer R.J. Ellory and Scientology.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 11, 2013 at 07:00

 

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  • Observer

    omg, Vance’s last paragraph has me howling! I read this: “Hey, what’s she got in here? Why, Goddamn her, that’s beginning to burn! It’s a douche. Say! Let me out of here! Bring me up to present time!” with the inflection of a 30s actor, and I’m practically on the floor laughing! Vance, I want to hug you–I’m *so* glad you’re out.

    And just because it’s appropriate here, I’m posting this yet again:

    • TonyOrtega

      That’s an actual quote from the book, by the way.

      • Observer

        What a hack!

      • TheNextMrsTomCruise

        Only LRH could get so mellerdramatic over a simple douche

        • FistOfXenu

          Every time he looked in the mirror, TNMTC, every time.

        • Midwest Mom

          Hubbs must have loved this commercial!

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N91XsdrBqUY

          • FistOfXenu

            Nope. Massengill says it’s all natural ingredients. That means no pinks and grays and not even any Kool cigarettes or LSD unless you really stretch your definition of natural. But if it was a commercial for “Barbiturate Douche, the douche that gets your womb high” maybe he’d have appreciated it.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Aaaaagggghhhh…

            • Midwest Mom

              Remember Manfred Mann’s Earth Band’s version of “Blinded by the Light”? For years I though they were singing:

              “Dressed up like a douche, another rumor in the night”.

              The actual words were:

              “Revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night.”

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Glad it wasn’t just me.

            • John P.

              “Dressed up like a douche, another rumor in the night”.

              That is exemplified by my second favorite web site, hotchickswithdouchebags.com, which celebrates normal looking cute girls trapped in photo ops at sleazy clubs in Las Vegas and New Jersey with guys who are, unsurprisingly, world class douchebags. The display of douchery is as fascinating as any auto accident you’ve ever driven by; you can’t tear your eyes away, though you know you should.

            • Midwest Mom

              Isn’t it funny how males see these girls as “normal” or “hot”, but females see them as “skanky”?

              This is one of your favorite websites? These aren’t exactly the kind of girls one would see on the pages of Town and Country, my friend. You are certainly full of surprises, J.P. 🙂

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              That’s what happens when you have Super Models licking your brains out at cocktail hour every day (except for triple dip days or triple witching hour, of course).

            • John P.

              It’s a guilty pleasure, seeing how the other half lives. Well, er, actually, how the other 99.987% lives. There but for the grace of God go I. Well, er, actually, there but for the grace of God plus a fine education, proper diction, a job that pays more than minimum wage, two yachts, knuckles that clear the carpet adequately when I walk, a jet, an aversion to spray-on tanning technologies, multiple waterfront estates well stocked with supermodels, a Mitt Romney-esque investment portfolio, a passion for art honed at the museums in our fair city, and the good fortune not to confuse Snooki on Jersey Shore with a deep thinker, go I.

            • Missionary Kid

              T & C always represented the beautiful but unrealistic women, just like those girls seem to be in a different way: all facade.

              It reminds the of the old description of a woman putting on her makeup as “putting on her warpaint.”

              For the women on that site, warpaint includes plastic surgery, tanning salons, and all sorts of stuff to make them look better. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of vapid women like that.

              Between their ears, there’s often not much there. Sometimes, that’s a matter of just being young.

            • Unex Skcus

              Guys think they’re hot and sexy only until they hit on them. After that, depending on the outcome, they’re either “skanky”, or a notch in the belt.

            • Chocolate Velvet

              “Isn’t it funny how males see these girls as “normal” or “hot”, but females see them as “skanky”?”

              LOL! MM, you said what I was thinking! Actual “normal” women tend to stay away from douchebags, I’ve noticed.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Lol. I thought I was the only one.

            • Missionary Kid

              Before your time, the Kingsmen, who had the hit with “Louie Louie” had the urban legend that there were dirty lyrics on the recording. The FCC and the FBI even got involved.
              I met one of them years later, and he said that they only had one mike to sing into, and they’d move up and back to sing, so some words became unintelligible.
              Because of the rumor, the record sold more than it usually would. Everyone tried to hear the “dirty lyrics” for themselves.
              He said that the record cost them $36 to record, and sold, I believe 8 million copies. Their manager was connected and ripped them off.

            • FistOfXenu

              Great song. I knew bands that covered it, and said they couldn’t figure out the words, but since the words were supposed to be obscene anyways they just made up obscene lyrics. Some spectacular results like Lenny Bruce writes songs for the Kingsmen.

            • Missionary Kid

              I had heard the song done by first Fabulous Wailers, or Wailers, as I knew them (who were doing their own covers of black music, as well as their own stuff), because I had a friend who for some reason was into Northwestern bands. I was ignorant, and just liked the music. My friend also got me started listening to black roots musicians.

              The Kingsmen more or less copied the Wailers. Unfortunately, when the Beatles and Stones came along, it overwhelmed that budding style of music.

              When I first heard the name, Bob Marley and the Wailers, I thought they might be connected, but the difference was not only black and white.

              Richard Berry, who wrote Louie, Louie wouldn’t listen to it for a long time, because the rights got ripped off from him. As a part of the project to restore rights and royalties to older rockers, he finally got them back several years before he died. Then he started to enjoy his song again.

            • sugarplumfairy

              I just listened.. He might be thinking deuce, but he’s saying douche.. He must be suffering from post traumatic douche disorder..

          • Captain Howdy

            Nice eyebrows. Mom is kind of a MILF also. Thanks.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Ooh Eyebrows. Did you see the new cover of Vanity Fair of Audrey Hepburn? I saw those eyebrows and immediately thought of you!

            • Missionary Kid

              I knew a woman who was, for a while, a stepdaughter of Audrey’s. She said Audrey wasn’t beautiful, she was exquisite.

            • Midwest Mom

              What is a MILF?

            • Captain Howdy

              Moderately Interesting Living Female

            • FistOfXenu

              ROFL! Getting your TRs in again Captain?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Weak ass answer is weak ass!

            • FistOfXenu

              He’s answering like a $cibot PR man.

            • Captain Howdy

              I didn’t invent it and it’s part of the common vernacular now. They say it on regular TV all the time.

            • FistOfXenu

              Still dodging, Captain? 😀

            • Captain Howdy

              Google images>got milf?>look for S.P

            • FistOfXenu

              AAAAAAAAAGH!

            • Midwest Mom

              S.P.? Those are my initials. Grrr…

            • Midwest Mom

              You would think differently about it if some college guys had smiled at you and said that about you as you pushed your cart past them at Walmart.

            • Captain Howdy

              I honestly don’t think Bury would mind

            • grundoon

              What those young studs need is some discipline.

            • Missionary Kid

              Mother I’d Like to F.

            • FistOfXenu

              awww I was enjoying watching Captain squirm around trying to dodge telling her.

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re sneaky. I like that – when it’s not done in a vicious way, like $cions do.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Pops Popcorn and waits for you to answer Midwest Mom’s MILF question.
              🙂

            • Captain Howdy

              YEAH BABY!!!

            • FistOfXenu

              I had a brief crush on her in my youth. 🙂

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I just wanted to be her! She was awesome.

      • DodoTheLaser

        It appears to me that the original edition of Dianetics has a lot more stuff that was later edited out..
        I’ve read the thing 3 times, at least, and don’t remember some of the cultural references. Good stuff.
        Thanks Tony and Vance! lol

        • Nibs Said

          Dodo – Jimmy3 is just never going to agree with me or anything I have to say, is he? Thought we were having a pretty good chat this morning (finally) then he turns the tables. Please just let me know what you think.

    • Truthiwant

      Hey, Observer, you obviously haven’t read ‘Dianetics’. I don’t blame you. Infact i think the only two people that have read it for sure are Tony and Vance.

      • Observer

        Nope. I find I can’t read more than a few paragraphs of anything Hubbard wrote, including his fiction (which is redundant because everything he wrote was fiction), without being overcome by boredom and/or contempt.

        • TheNextMrsTomCruise

          Me too Observer. Boredom, contempt, and utter amazement at his lack of punctuation. Which of course leads to fits of yawning. Easily explained by Hubtard’s idea of MUS 🙂

          • FistOfXenu

            MUs – beat me to it. 🙂

          • Observer

            MU = Mendaciously Unreadable

            • FistOfXenu

              Hey, can we start an alternative dictionary for LRH’s acronyms? That should go in there.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            You just haven’t completed Hubbard’s Grammar Course. That’s right. Schizo punctuation and grammar is unique, only for elite thetans. You’re probably using wog punctuation and grammar guidelines. Also, it helps to just skip everything after the first paragraph and jump to the last one. I found I never missed a thing.

            • FistOfXenu

              I ended up reading a lot of his horseshit and I figure I didn’t miss a thing UNTIL I read it. Like allt he brain cells that OD’d on horseshit.

        • Missionary Kid

          AMEN!!!

      • Wasn’t it Lord Palmerston (1784 – 1865) who is reported to have said:

        “Deciphering ‘Dianetics’ is so complicated that only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert, who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it.”

        Andrew

        • Truthiwant

          I wonder what he really would have said about Dianetics with that ruling class, stiff upper lip English way. “It’s all rather silly, old fellow. Not really cricket, my good man. Goodness gracious me, Hubbard was a blithering idiot. Haw, haw.”

        • FistOfXenu

          WHAT?!

        • DodoTheLaser

          Haha!!

        • Missionary Kid
          • FistOfXenu

            Genius, and not the $cientarCONon kind. You make that or just find it. Either way, it should be disseminated widely. Especially to all the people “quoting” Thomas Jefferson and a whole bunch of other famous dead people.

            • Missionary Kid

              Somebody posted it somewhere. (I think here).
              I use it to reply to people who send me crap that Bill Cosby or George Carlin or Andy Rooney supposedly said that is a bunch of political or other propaganda. I check sources.
              All three of those people at first made an effort to disavow each urban legend individually, but finally gave up and made general statements on their websites.
              I think that’s why I dislike $ciontology so much: it’s so filled with lies, baldfaced lies, fantasy, and half-truths.

    • stillgrace

      Funny! The voice I heard belonged to Bruce Willis.

      • Sherbet

        I “heard” it in lrh’s own voice, which makes it a bazillion times creepier.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I heard it in a Bugs Bunny “what’s up doc?” kind of voice. Should I be worried?

  • Truthiwant

    It’s incredible how Hubbard talks about
    Dianetic Auditors picking up all sorts of prenatal engrams. He talks so
    much in the plural that there must have been years and years of auditing going
    on even before he wrote his book ‘Dianetics’. How can this be?

    I remember many years ago being involved in a discussion about what OT III and the Wall of
    Fire was all about.

    Nobody except those who had been through the Wall of Fire knew anything about it and
    these OTs certainly didn’t and couldn’t talk about this level so it was quite
    common for young inspiring Scientologists to muse and discuss this fascinating
    subject. The conclusion we came to that day was that it must have something to
    do with the Big Bang Theory and how life started on this planet maybe by a
    meteorite carrying molecules crashing in to the Earth.

    These people, including myself, didn’t have the slightest notion that it was to do
    with science fiction space opera and was completely invented by a man with a
    warped mind. Poor us. We thought that we were going to learn about the secrets
    of the universe in a scientific, trusted, proved and true manner.

    Please, everybody, reply to me and say “You were so stupid” and give me a negative vote
    for being such an asshole. It would make me feel better!

    • Observer

      How about a positive vote for coming to your senses and getting outta there?

      • FistOfXenu

        ^ This. Observer’s right. We all make mistakes. There are some people who’ve left the cult but still drinking the clam aid. *COUGHrathbunCOUGH* You’re here in the real world instead of doing that. And look at me. I didn’t even say “Stupid is as stupid does.”

        facepalm

        • Sherbet

          *COUGHkarenCOUGH* That dear, sweet, suffering woman still believes, sad to say.

          • FistOfXenu

            Yeah, I went for the other one because he’s turning himself into a pied piper and he’s less tragic. Karen chokes me up just thinking about her.

            • Sherbet

              Karen just brings out the hugs in me, she’s such a sweetheart.

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      Truthy, you were right! It is about the Big Bang theory. Just LRH perverted that into your parents banging.
      As a pubescent, when I first realized my parents had to have sex in order to have me, I was so grossed out, I couldn’t contemplate that idea, and decided I was the fruits of Immaculate Conception. (8 years of Catholic school) LRH was such a perv, he obviously spent a lot more time contemplating this idea than I did.

      • Sidney18511

        TNMTC…..I had to laugh at your post. Being raised catholic myself, I, also ran your fruits theory through my 5th grade school little mind.

      • Midwest Mom

        I am giggling because I too was grossed out when I found out how babies were made. I found out from an ABC Afterschool Special called “My Mom’s Having a Baby” and I couldn’t even look at my parents because they “did that”, especially since my best friend told me the next day that her sister told her that “they don’t even wear underwear!”

        Interestingly enough, the Afterschool Special featured (Dr,) Lendon Smith, a physician who appeared on many television shows as a medical expert, who interestingly enough, had been placed on probation in 1973 and 1975 by the Oregon Board of Medical Examiners and had to surrender his medical license in 1987 for unethical behavior and insurance fraud. Is it any surprise that he was involved with the Church of Scientology and in 2001, became the commissioner of the Co$ front group, The Citizens Commission on Human Rights and continued spreading his propaganda, even though he was no longer licensed to practice medicine?

        • Captain Howdy

          I use to luv “ABC Afterschool Specials”, and I know “Dr.” Lendon Smith’s name has been mentioned around here before, but I never made the connection to A.S. I did an image search and I remember that face like it was yesterday…40 yrs ago. What a creep.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Ohhhhh, That guy! ewwww. And did I hear someone say you’re not supposed to wear underwear. Well, That explains a lot.

        • Trustmeonthis

          Uh, wow. All I got was a book called “How Babies Are Made” featuring construction paper models of chickens fucking, and then two people under a blanket.

          I’m not even kidding.

          http://www.oneofakindwis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/people-love.jpg

      • Sherbet

        Silly, Mrs. The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary’s being born without original sin, not the virgin birth. But your emotions and revulsion at the act as performed by PARENTS, noooooo!!!! I remember those feelings very well! Ew! Not MY parents!! Well, maybe 3 times for me and my 2 sibs, that was IT.

      • FistOfXenu

        I still think he walked in on his parents.

    • pat yourself on the back ~ at least you are not still “in” and trying to rationalize to yourself ..for crying out loud …Marty has a post about quantum theory and how understanding that can help a person understand scientology . At least you are awake 😉

      • Truthiwant

        You’re right. I guess the people still ‘in’ are the ones that are worst off.

        Get a grab of this one…

        This is what an Italian lady said about starting OT IV at Flag.

        I quote “Andare in session con un auditor di Classe IX è un’esperienza
        inimmaginabile! È come andare al bar e bere un caffè con un tuo amico!”

        Translated is “Going in session with a Class IX auditor is an unimaginable experience.
        It’s like going to a bar to drink a coffee with one of your friends.”

        That’s a mind blowing piece of information. Just think about it next time you’re out having a cup of coffee.

        • Observer

          Wow … that poor lady must not have gone out for coffee with a friend for a very long time. Or else she *really* needs a better class of friend.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Scientology – is like going to a bar to drink some coffee with a friend who charges you $350 (or a few grand) an hour and sells you a book or two later. And then you pretend you are drunk and happy.

        • i don’t go to a bar to drink coffee ….scientologists are weird 😉

          • Captain Howdy

            No Irish coffee for Ms. O’Brien?

            • DodoTheLaser

              No need to go to a bar for some Baileys in your coffee.

            • stillgrace

              Now you’re talking! Love Baileys in my morning mud.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Are you in England? 🙂

            • stillgrace

              California- SF Bay Area

            • DodoTheLaser

              Nice. I heard weather is always nice there. I’m jelly.

            • stillgrace

              It’s Mediterranean weather. Great for gardening. It snowed once when I was a kid. One half of an inch. We had to steal the snow off the lawns of six neighbors to make one puny snowman.

            • DodoTheLaser

              lol re: snow. Nice cool breeze is common though?

            • stillgrace

              Where I live on the bay, we always get afternoon winds. Luckily, our streets have large trees on them, and that protects the plants. We have great wind surfing, even if we have to duck the planes landing at SFO!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Sounds so much better/fresher then Florida!

            • stillgrace

              Ha! The first time I visited Florida, I stepped out of my rental car, and my sunglasses immediately fogged up. I literally couldn’t see. I remember thinking: this can’t be good.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Hahaha! My point exactly.

            • FistOfXenu

              No surprises there. Damn place is built on swamp. $cientarCONon’s busy turning it back into swamp. Anybody for an Ideal Bog?

            • DodoTheLaser

              Yeah, fuck that. 🙂

            • Captain Howdy

              Outer Sunset Rules! WPOD ! Ocean Beach FTW!

            • grundoon

              Hang myself when I get enough rope!

              http://youtu.be/kP8nGNbk7oQ

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes, unless it’s Shannon Airport or the Buena Vista in my hometown, than it is worth it. And you don’t use Baileys unless you’re an old lady, you’re suppose to use Irish Whiskey.

              http://www.thebuenavista.com/irishcoffee.html

            • stillgrace

              I can’t be an old lady … so I don’t call it an Irish coffee.

            • that belongs outside in the snow – never in a bar 🙂

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Or inside, in your morning mug while you are watching it snow outside your window!

              Or at the ski lodge.

          • Missionary Kid

            It’s a matter of translation and culture.
            For us, a bar is a place to drink alcoholic beverages. In Italy, it’s coffee, wine, hard liquor, and is more like a Starbucks.

          • FLUNK_101

            Scientotogists are typically coffee and nicotine addicts. Party hardy, clams!

            • Missionary Kid

              Nicotine: one of the most addictive substances there is. Just go to an AA or NA meeting where smoking is allowed inside. Otherwise, you’ll see a bunch of people outside, smoking at every opportunity. The people may have kicked heroin or alcohol, but smoking is even tougher.

              When Synanon (started out O.K., but ended up cult-like) declared that smoking would not be tolerated, it ripped the movement apart.

              Realize that C. Edward Koop pointed out that about 30% of all smokers, as well as other addicts, are able to simply quit and never look back, but the great majority can’t. I’ve seen too many emphysema patients with an oxygen cannula in their nose, puffing on a cigarette.

              Since LRH always justified his own weaknesses, he made smoking something healthy. How scientific was that?

            • FistOfXenu

              Strange how $cientarCONon can’t cure them of either of those addictions. And then there’s LRH’s drug use and DM’s boozing. And that’s before we get to the $cientarCONon addiction to lying.

        • yeah last time i had coffee with a friend we chatted for a couple of hours, she charged me two thousand dollars.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Some friends are kinky like that. jk

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Yes, but did she run you to a F/N?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I thought with GAT, you needed the three swinging F/N’s because COB said so!

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Yes, we meant a 3 swing F/N.

              What were you thinking?

              Were you sent here to Earth to destroy Scientology?

              Have you ever enslaved a population?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I had an ant farm. Does that count?

      • Captain Howdy

        “Marty has a post about quantum theory and how understanding that can help a person understand scientology .”

        Marty mistook “Quantum Leap” for “Quantum theory”. Rathbun thinks he’s “Dr. Sam Beckett” and Hubbard is “Admiral Al Calavicci”, appearing only to Marty as a holographic image.

        • i totally thought about that show ! LOL . I love the rational …hey man , scientology is for everyone ~ who is either a brainwashed zombie or a quantum physicist .Looks like some of the minions are defecting . Scientology seems to work best when it’s buddhism 😉

          • DodoTheLaser

            “Scientology seems to work best when it’s buddhism ;)”

            Haha! Ain’t it the truth!

        • DodoTheLaser

          You are being too literal and not seeing the forest behind the trees, punk.

          When you pull yourself out of the joking and degrading mode and dramatazing the lower harmonics of
          what is perceived to what actually is, you may then be able to see that the
          CONSIDERATIONS TAKE RANK OVER THE MECHANICS OF SPACE, ENERGY AND TIME.

          Until then, keep mocking ARC, you Miscavige friend.

          How is that for channeling?! lol

          • Observer

            Yer scarin’ me!

            • DodoTheLaser

              I scare myself sometimes. Sorry 🙂

          • Captain Howdy

            I’m unspeechiness, Doubleplusgood that!

            • DodoTheLaser

              That’s the truthiness of it all, in all of it as-isness. Thank you, my brother.
              Hopefully, I moved you on up a little higher today. Namaste. 🙂

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I’m going with the Quantum Conundrum Game Show…

          [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/14kac8y.jpg[/IMG]

          http://youtu.be/35YRQCaLX4w

      • Truthiwant

        The most enjoyment I get out of Scientology is joking about it and making a few scathing remarks!

        I wrote three short stories on Scientology a few months ago. You can read them here.

        http://targettwentytwo.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/21/

        • FistOfXenu

          What other point would there be to $cientarCONon except Joking & Degrading? And destroying it of course.

          • Trustmeonthis

            Joking and Degrading is the best! It’s Fun with a Purpose!

            • Observer

              So true! It’s a healthy outlet for all the snark I suppress in everyday life.

            • FistOfXenu

              “Fun with a Porpoise?” That’s a different thing, Trustmeonthis. You’ll just have to trustmeonthis.
              🙂

            • ThetaBara

              Pervert! 😉

            • FistOfXenu

              You call?

      • RMycroft

        Any discussion of quantum that doesn’t involve sub-atomic particle physics is full of the worst kind of woo. (The jury is still out on quantum computing.)

        • FLUNK_101

          Roger Penrose, a mathematical physicist who was both mentor to and colleague of Stephen Hawkins, wrote a book about new theories of consciousness based on science.

          It’s called “The Emperor’s New Mind.”

          If I remember correctly, he said this about quantum physics:

          “People who understand it don’t take it seriously, and people who take it seriously don’t understand it.”

          Funny. You could say the exact same thing … about Scientology!

          (Penrose has his own theory about quantum-consciousness. But it’s not woo-woo. Even though it’s just a theory, he has the scientific knowledge to support it.)

          PS Don’t get me started on “The Intention Experiment” by Lynne Mctaggart. The introduction to her book has so many lies and half-truths in it that I didn’t bother to read the rest of the book. She’s such a deceitful and manipulative liar … and Marty loves her!

          • Midwest Mom

            I agree that Lynne McTaggart is a nutball. (No offence to nutballs- they are always a hit at Christmas parties). She is a pseudo-science poster girl!

            • FLUNK_101

              Thank you Midwest Mom!
              And nutballs are delicious. I’ve always preferred a “nutball” to a “fruitcake,” if you know what I mean.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Did you read that thing? Doesn’t it make you want to go to his house and ring his doorbell so you can slap him in the forehead with the base of your palm!

        • FistOfXenu

          I’d like to stick him in the Infinite Perspective Vortex and let that slap him in his forehead, but that’s me. Kim may prefer the personal touch.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            I could hear myself audibly groan when I was reading that.
            Now I know why I took a loooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggg Marty break.

    • Sidney18511

      truth….I think that is one of the reasons that it is so hard for so many to come to grips with leaving Scientology. They have to admit they were fooled. Duped. Sucked in. What they can so clearly see now, they couldn’t see then.
      I think it’s HEALTHY to realize that you and millions of others were conned by the best on the biz, LRH whose speciality was brainwashing.
      It takes a strong person to admit they were fooled and you have my respect.

      • Captain Howdy

        “you and millions”

        Ah, CofS had around 200,000 members at it’s peak in the late 80’s and based on rough statistics less than 10% of those exposed to Hubbard’s brain blast stuck around for any length of time.

        • Sidney18511

          I didn’t know if I should use thousands or millions. But I decided to go with millions. Because it was bigger. And bigger is better.

          • DodoTheLaser

            12 billion Scientologists agree.

          • Captain Howdy

            “And bigger is better.”

            And the women of Australia agree with you wholeheartedly on that one!

      • not millions. sorry …Lady Gaga has more twitter followers than ever followed scientology .

    • YES! What you said! When I was young the single most important thing was knowing where, why and how it all came to be. Still is.Just the other day I asked Alfie… again. He informed me that he is now retired and I should try Suri:/ No, not THAT Suri.
      Does anyone else find it odd that Toms daughter is named Suri? i wonder where they came up with that name?

      • Observer

        As I recall, Tom thought it was Farsi or Hebrew for Princess or some such thing. Despite what the baby names lists say, it doesn’t. Here’s a Wikipedia list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suri

        • FistOfXenu

          Observer, I’m shocked! You’re comparing an evil suppressive wog source like Wikipedia with Tom Cruise and his superior Study Tech knowledge? And besides that his OT powerz give him knowledge wikipedia can’t imagine in their wildest dreams.

          • Observer

            Hey, Xenu, I’m on your team! SPs rule! Wooooooo!

    • Bella Legosi

      Think of it this way…….taking an active interest in humanity or the betterment there of can make anyone susceptable to cultie Kool Aid. That is what I believe makes Scientology so goddamn evil. They take honest to god good people who just want answers about life (or who want to make some difference) and/or the world and then that desire is twisted and perverted to meet Hubbard’s greed scheme. When you enter into the spiritual mode of thinking you are more open to being controlled because you seek answers that nobody else has been able to provide. So, when you start getting some answers you want to invest some sort of trust, because what is the point of being open to spirituality if you can not invest trust? And Observer is right……..you deserve to be commended on leaving AND talking to us all here. You could have just left and that would be the end of it. Obviously the Kool Aid ya drank has ran its course cuz you are here with us “religious haters”

      And Catholics have just as whacked out creation mythos as Scientology. The difference being that talking snakes, incestuous couplings (Lot and his daughters), or God going on a suicide mission to save everyone on earth from “original sin”, have been around for 2000 years and the Universal Church used to barbeque those Catholic SP’s that attempted to bring some sanity to an insane and destructive church. By the way Co$ needs to stop bringing up “Catholics did it too! So that means it MUST be okay for US!” bulls**t! That does not help their argument and in fact destroys what little tiny amount of credibility they ever attempted to build up.

    • Sherbet

      Sorry, Truthiwant. I think you’re beating yourself up enough over this without asking for down arrows. The Bunkerites are giving you nothing but up arrows for your guts.

    • Bella Legosi

      I wish the whole exchange between Odin and Zao was available, but this totally came to mind after I posted…….hope it makes ya smile.

      http://youtu.be/7n0IMB5vSw8

      Hammer of the Gods- Supernatural…….Odin and Zao discussing how the end of the world will come. What is not included is how Odin and Zao fight over who is older and less realistic.

      • i-Betty

        Heh, I wonder whether Terry Pratchett got his idea for the Discworld series from this.

        • Bella Legosi

          Eric Kripke was the series creator. He wrote the first three seasons and shopped them around for like 10 years. When WB/CW picked the show up one of the X Files co-producers hopped on board. Apparently, urban legends, The Ring, and The Grudge were some inspirations. This episode was from season 5 which I believe to be the best season ever. If you can tell I am a Supernatural Superfan! Give me a Winchester sandwich with a side of Castiel and I would be the happiest girl on the planet!

    • DodoTheLaser

      It’s ok. You are ok. Hugs and thank you.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Sorry, I don’t wish to not make you feel better, but I had to give you a arrow anyway as your post finally allowed me to remove the cool washcloth from my forehead and rejoin the land of the living.
      This is after DodotheLaser tried to make my brain explode last night.
      I am just barely coming out of the PTSD state of “Marty vs. Quantum Theory”

      • DodoTheLaser

        Sorry 🙂 I love you.
        My PTSD is worse.
        lol Or not.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I still think you owe me a cookie!

          Slightly burned… oatmeal, with raisins please.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Ok. I deliver what I promise. Kisses.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      OT powers… out of control…golden chairs proliferating…shut down number eight before the world ends!

      • Captain Howdy

        pssst..hit edit and click on the picture once and look for the black X in the upper right hand corner.

      • Truthiwant

        You’re so right, OTVIIIisGrrr8. I have done wrong. I’m totally tone minus 40 at the moment. You have my credit card number, so take anything you want to get me back on good standing and get my tone level up so that I can get processed. (Processed, as in auditing, not as in canned meat)

        By the way, those gold chairs, are they not the ones that the Savoy Hotel in London threw out when they renovated the building?

        • FistOfXenu

          “Processed, as in auditing, not as in canned meat”
          In $cientarCONon there’s no difference, Truthiwant.

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          Thank you for coming to your senses Truthiwant.

          And thank you for having a Black American Express card with no limits. We used it before 2:00PM today and were able to make our weekly stats.

          1. The Flag CS programmed you for 150 hours of L’s @ $99,000

          2. IAS Patron Unconsciousness of Bankruptcy Status @ $5,000,000

          3. The David Miscavige Starter Package: One fifth of Macallan scotch; one carton of Camel nonfilters; one Glock 9mm; one tuxedo made of ballistic armor.

          5. A $10,000,000 donation to help find David Miscavige. He is still missing: http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/03/30/cob-rtc-david-miscavige-is-missing/

          http://otviiisgrrr8.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/missing2.png

          • Truthiwant

            That’s fine with me. You know that I have total trust in this fine religion.

            As regards your ‘Missing’ flyer of Mr. Miscavige, I see that you Americans have come a long way since the old days of the Far West when you used to nail a poster to a tree saying ‘Wanted. Dead or Alive.’

            • grundoon

              DM isn’t wanted that much.

          • John P.

            The Macallan scotch is a key part of the “Starter Package.” I was ordering up to stock the pool bar out at the ol’ waterfront estate in advance of the season opener party in a couple weeks, and discovered that our pal Dave is an enthusiastic endorser of Macallan 25. Check out his review here: http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?Nty=1&ProductID=1591&Ntt=macallan&Ntx=mode%2bmatchall&N=331&Dx=mode%2bmatchall&D=macallan&Ntk=All&submit=1

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Baahaahaa. And someone found Dave’s review “helpful”.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Okay, fine, have it your way Truthiwant: You were so stupid to leave the Church of Scientology and not finish the OT levels — let alone stick around for the L’s and the soon-to-be-opened Super Power Rundowns.

      Now you will never get to sit in a Scientology golden chair as COB outlines the final plans for a world takeover by we in the Church of Scientology:

      http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/GoldChairs_zps7a6cb711.jpg

    • Casabeca

      If reading this blog has taught me anything, it is that stupidity could not have been the problem. You all are sharp!

      • Truthiwant

        Thanks, Casabeca,

        Your comment is interesting and a lot could be written on ‘who’ are Scientologists or ‘who’ are ex-Scientologists. Are they intelligent people? Are they stupid people? Are they easily susceptible? Why did they get involved in such an organization? And also a lot more could be written on the powers of brainwashing and how it hiddenly influences you.

        • Missionary Kid

          I believe there’s no connection between intelligence and emotion. People who get involved with $cientology are NOT dumb. Co$ grabs people, whatever their intellect, at an emotionally vulnerable point in their life.

          Co$ works on the emotional side of individuals so they learn to ignore the intellectual side of themselves. People who get entangled with Co$ do a lot of rationalization, led by their emotions. This rationalization really takes hold by the time they find out about Xenu.

          LRH learned to take advantage of that. As $cions, people pay for the privilege of screwing up their lives. That can only take place when the emotions are in control. Notice that everything seems to be classified as urgent, only some things are more urgent than others to keep people from thinking. They are told that their participation is vital, that they are needed to save the world.

          Co$ very subtly modifies the victim’s frame of reference, rewards them for adopting that of the con’s, and ignores or corrects any deviation. It then subtly makes itself the whole focus of the person they’ve recruited and cuts them off from the outside and other frames of reference, and replaces their family or support systems and emotions with those of Co$ and the group’s emotions.

          When a person leaves Co$, they start to reconnect to their own emotions. For people that have been in Co$ for a long time, particularly if they started young, there is a lot of false information that they have to unlearn. They also face the emotion that tells them that they have invested so much emotion (and money) into Co$ that they often psychologically hang on to parts of it when they leave. It is very difficult for anyone to simply walk away after dedicating themselves to something for decades. It’s often hard to say to themselves, “I spent all this time and money on shit.”

          That’s what makes Indies. Indies also provide a waypoint for people on their way out, because they find they can’t reject everything all at once. It helps the decompression process.

          I believe the Indies are wrong, but that they perform a very necessary function in bringing down DM and the Co$.

  • Observer

    LRH: he’s always worse than you think, on whatever subject you’re thinking of.

    • FistOfXenu

      That’s the one you tried to post yesterday right? I think you just captured his soul. Bonus for sticking with it. Don’t let the Disqus get ya down!
      😛

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Soul? What soul?

        [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/53X9gwM.jpg[/IMG]

        • FistOfXenu

          My eyes! My eyes! It burns them, Precious!

          • RMycroft

            Hubbard in one of his lighter “pinks and grays” moments.

            http://i.imgur.com/bOkB4.gif

            • Observer

              That’s sort of hypnotic.

              … yes, Dianetics makes perfect sense … of course you can have all my money … a billion years of sleep deprivation and rice and beans sounds wonderful … Body thetans! Get them off me! … L. Ron Hubbard was mankind’s greatest friend … I must do exactly what he says …

            • Captain Howdy

              Rolf! Been there, done that.

            • i-Betty

              Heh.

            • FistOfXenu

              Ah yes, LRH “researching” OTIII, right?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol.. Can’t stop watching..

            • FistOfXenu

              “That’s right, just keep looking, and you’re relaxing in your chair and feeling very light and comfortable, and now just let your hands drift forward until they take hold of the cans, and now you’re sitting back in your chair comfortably alert and ready to communicate with me, that’s right, now you’re not hungry and you’ve slept well right? good, now just continue to relax and listen to me, good, THIS IS THE SESSION”

            • sugarplumfairy

              I could never do auditing.. I’m always hungry.. Right now I am craving a brownie..

            • FistOfXenu

              But you’d settle for an astrid right? 😉

            • Guest

              No!, SPF, No! You must look away. Try to focus on something else.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              But it “is” hyponotic!

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes it is and my hypnotoad gif went pfffft! How do you edit out pictures?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Ask your PA. She knows this stuff!

            • stillgrace

              Click on the “Edit” button like you are going to edit the text of your comment. Click once on the image. An “X” will appear. Click on the “X” and save your edits.

            • Captain Howdy

              Thanks.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/2niz1qv.jpg[/IMG]

            • Midwest Mom

              ha ha! Is that Hubb’s baby photo?

            • FistOfXenu

              NO! Hubbard was never a baby. He was a gnome-like abomination.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              And Hubbard made sure he was photographed every time he was having one of his Sailor Daddy moments…

              [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2ef13pu.jpg[/IMG]

            • stillgrace

              Great photo. Looks like “whole track wannabe” to me.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              All Hub.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Damn, we needed that yesterday for the “Bullshitography channel”

            • Captain Howdy

              Commodore Scurvy

        • Observer

          Hahaha! For a second there I thought he was doing an Elvis impersonation.

        • Midwest Mom

          Isn’t that Captain Stupid from the “Hubb Boat”?

          “The Huuuuuuubb Booooaaaat, soon will be making another run,
          The Huuuuuuubb Booooaaaaat, promises mind sludge for everyone!

          Set your course for adventure, your hands holding those tiiiiiinnnnnin cans,

          And Huuuu-uuuuu-uuuuu-uuuubbs,
          Waaaaaants yooooou to do mooooooore,

          If you fail at thaaaaaaaaaat,
          You’ll go overboooooooaaaaaaaard!

          For Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubbs.

          H.U.B.B.S.!

          Huuuuuuuuuuuuu-uuuuuuuuuuuuu-uuuuuuuuuuubs!”

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Stop it, mm! Stop now. What do you want? Anything but the Love Boat Theme. Name it.

            • Midwest Mom

              How about dancing like Pee Wee Herman to the song “Taquilla” at the next S.P. party? (A warning to your husband: the men in attendance will be unable to take their eyes off of you.) wink -wink!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okeedokie!

      • Observer

        Yes, and it eventually showed up, but it actually fits today’s post so I put it up again.

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      LRH is always deeper than you think. In this photo, he’s contemplating his upcoming nose picking session.

      • FistOfXenu

        You mean that finger’s extra long? Must be 1 of his sooper OT powerz, growing his finger to stretch up his nose.

        • Captain Howdy

          One of the ways to tell if someone is a werewolf is that they have abnormally long fingers, usually the index finger is as long or longer than the middle finger.

          • DodoTheLaser

            You made me look at my fingers. LOL

            • EnthralledObserver

              Me too… lol

            • DodoTheLaser

              Will we ever learn… 🙂

          • Bella Legosi

            Does being allergic to silver count as well? 🙂

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes, especially if that allergy comes in the shape of a silver bullet (knife, cane etc).

            • DodoTheLaser

              I’ve reached a Silver Bullet Patron SP status. Just humbly saying.

            • Captain Howdy

              Yea, Coors Silver Bullet status.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Stop stalking me!

            • Captain Howdy

              “Stop stalking me!”
              I cant’ help it. It runs in the family.

            • Bella Legosi

              Well I haven’t woken up with bits of deer flesh between my teeth, completely naked, and in the middle of a park (that soooo wouldn’t happen today. Werewolf or not you would be registered sex offender!), but I know when my nose ring is silver.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Werewolfs? I thought it was musicians and Babylon Babes

            [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2i29380.jpg[/IMG]

            • Captain Howdy

              You forgot porn stars.

          • sugarplumfairy

            My cousin, aka Princess BigToe, wants to know what it means when your great toe is twice as long as your second toe..

            • Missionary Kid

              It means you have the genetics for it. It’s like being a PK taster, or having blond or red or brown or black hair.

            • sugarplumfairy

              As boring as that?? I was hoping for an astrid in the family, or at very least, a brownie..

            • FistOfXenu

              Would you settle for being descended from some kind of lemur that picks ants out of tree bark?

            • sugarplumfairy

              That’s already a given..

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup. It’s that boring. As kids, those of the longer second toe make fun of the longer great toe, and vice versa, but it’s just a different genetic mutation, like attached or unattached ear lobes.

            • Captain Howdy

              It means she’s the mutant spawn of an unnatural coupling betwixt a human and a Sasquatch.

            • sugarplumfairy

              That sounds about right..

            • TheNextMrsTomCruise

              Don’t even try that Fairy! It is YOUR big toe that is bigger. Don’t make me post feet pics on here…

        • Johan

          The better to scratch your brain with……

    • Bella Legosi

      Yeah, Hubbard loved the smell of his own shit……this just proves it! Thank you Observer! 🙂

  • Mellerdrama!

    ’nuff said

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I’m marking that one down for next month’s Smersh title…May Mellerdrammer!

      • I think it’s from a 1930’s Mickey Mouse cartoon. Someone is getting Mickey Mouse Engrams. Auditor, stat!

        • Captain Howdy

          Yep, it’s “Mickey’s Mellerdrammer” from 1933, and it features Mickey and co. doing “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”. It’s of those cartoons they don’t show much anymore, if you catch my drift.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey%27s_Mellerdrammer

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Wow. I remember that cartoon. I was a mousker fan. Damn, is there Anything hubbard didn’t steal? I saw the first few minutes of it on UTube and noticed the curtain…that says “Assbestos”.

            [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/2qbyj2f.jpg[/IMG]

            • FistOfXenu

              Q: “is there Anything hubbard didn’t steal?”

              A: Not if he could help it.

      • Trustmeonthis

        We never did April, did we? How about Enthapril?

        • FistOfXenu

          We did, there was some good ones but no final agreement.

  • Interesting that Hubbard refers to the person being audited as “the patient” 3 times just in the above quote. That must have been quite an ego boost to the auditor to feel that he had “patients”.

    • I don’t think that Hubbard was trying to flatter his clients.

      Freudian psychoanalysts always refer to their “patients” rather than clients.

      Freud was a physician and working out of a medical model. It is himself that Hubbard is flattering.

      He wanted to be accepted as Freud’s peer who surpassed The Master.

      Hubbard admired Freud and acknowledged his achievenements. It was only later he went mad with rage at psychiatrists who had the gall to reject him and to add insult to injury invent medications that rendered Hubbardian psychotherapy useless for the most common and wide-spread mode disorders.

      To the best of my knowledge Hubbard never launched vicious attacks on Freud as he did on other psychiatrists.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Good post, Damian.
        Just one addition.

        “To the best of my knowledge Hubbard never launched vicious attacks on Freud as he did on other psychiatrists.”

        Hubbard bitched about Freud in one lecture addresses to Class 8 auditors. Something about how 100% Standard Tech proves that Freud was worthless and Hubbard used him for PR reasons, I think.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Scientologists who audit absolutely feel they are counselors/practitioners. Superior ones at that. It’s always been a new age (although now it would be old age) pseudo pscyhotherapy. A scientology auditor Knows better than any others that it is not a religion and if they say it is to the press or authorities or wog friends and family, they are utterly lying.

      Auditors go through a tremendous mental ordeal to get through training, and this is before Miscavige’s Golden Age of Crap manipulations. I cannot fathom Anyone training these days.

    • RMycroft

      It must have made it easier for the FDA to smack down the Hubbard Dianetics Foundation for practicing medicine without a license.

  • FistOfXenu

    “I was prepped to have an auditor “help me” discover what my aberrations were, i.e. to have me keep guessing at what my aberrations were until I guessed acceptable ones.”

    I think that’s the sentence that sums up the whole deal of being turned into a $cientarCONonist for me. They make you distrust your own mind and then make figure out what they expect. It’s like breaking somebody in interrogation.

    Beautifully said, Mr Woodward.

    • Bella Legosi

      Agreed. I can definitely see why Hub was hung up on evil psychs. They were prolly the only ones out there in the 50’s who definitely saw Dianetics and Scientology for what it truly was and still is. Psychs do it better damn it! And *gasp* they have a better track record in my mind. That’s saying a lot coming from this conspiratorial girl who believes Dr. Feelgood was an evil bastard!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/mjqqub.jpg[/IMG]

      • Captain Howdy

        Don’t be comparing Harry Powell and Poltergeist 2 preacher dude to that scumbag!

        That’s awesome!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          All three were hunters of buried treasure.

          • Captain Howdy

            The Night of the Hunter is in my all-time top ten. Did you know it’s the only film Charles Laughton ever directed ?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              No! I can totally see him directing the creepy throughout this film now. Just saw this one not long ago. There are so many levels to this one, you get something new each time you revisit, like a Steely Dan album.

            • Captain Howdy

              I’ve seen it at least 20 times. The scene where the children are floating down the river is so beautifully surreal, and Mitchum & Laughton should have won an Oscar.

            • There’s a frog on the river bank in that scene.

        • Midwest Mom

          He’s a mean Mammer Drammer.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Howdy’s right.. That’s awesome..

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          tks, but now I’m gonna have nightmares.

  • This is really great. Chuck Beatty has been hammering away for several years that the core Scientology practice is psychotherapy and not any sort of bogus “spiritual and religious” counseling.

    We like Chuck need to keep hammering away.

    In related news the American Ps-ychiatric Association is again holding its annual meeting in San Francisco this year, May 18-22.

    When they were in San Francisco in 2009 APA President Dr. Nada Stotland gave an interview in which she accurately nailed Scientology as an anti-psychiatry hate group.

    http://shattersuppression.blogspot.com/2009/05/apa-president-nada-stotman-md-on.html

    • California

      I was there and SCN could not hold a reasonable picket….. they brought too few people. They were reduced to handing out anti-psych pamphlets on nearby street corners.

  • TonyOrtega

    Just added to the post: Jonny Jacobsen with another report from Paris, this time on the French Senate’s report that cites Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book.

  • born sick and commanded to be well….where have i heard that before ?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thank you Tony and Jonny for the French so theta (wait, or is it Theda?) Report. I’d especially like to thank Eric Roux for making the French politicians’ job so much easier. You are hereby Highly Commended, Eric, for being a Poster Boy for scientology douchery. Hubbard has an App for that.

  • Sarcasmo

    Off topic, and I think it may have already been discredited, but the clam reference made me laugh nonetheless:

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tom-cruise-breaks-his-silence-on-katie-holmes-divorce-i-didnt-expect-it-201394#ixzz2Q0Zwkner

    Relevant part:

    Indeed, now that the initial shock of the divorce has worn off, Cruise is back to his usual cheerful self. Last month, his Rock of Ages director Adam Shankman told Us Weekly that both the actor and his ex-wife are doing well and moving on with their lives.

    “They are incredibly happy,” Shankman said of the former spouses. “I’ve just been emailing with [Tom]. He’s coming back. He’s shooting [All You Need Is Kill] in London and seems as happy as a clam. I know he sees his daughter.”

    • FistOfXenu

      I love it that he’s “happy as a clam”.

      Hey Tom, SNAP! SNAP! SNAP!

      • Sarcasmo

        After reading the article, I’ve been re-stimulated to the point of having severe jaw hinge pain and expect not to be able to use my jaw for the next three days. At least I didn’t have the urge to jump out of a skyscraper window after reading it and the information wasn’t enough to kill me.

    • Midwest Mom

      On this same topic, a new Yahoo answers thread just popped up by a Sci-bot.

      http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130410231403AAggAAC

      This person needs answers, STAT! Anyone here willing to oblige?

      • Captain Howdy

        Somebody did. Check it out.

        • Midwest Mom

          Hmmmnnn…I wonder who could possibly be this Travis fellow? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lol.. Why do people hate Tom cruise? “because Midwest Mom told us to..”

        • Midwest Mom

          Ha ha! I have also masterminded the public and media backlash against Justin Bieber. (Shhh……)
          Muahahahaha.

          Who wants cookies? 😉

          • FistOfXenu

            You did Bieber too? Good job although it couldn’t’ve been that much work for you.

            Cookies? Hell yeah and thanks!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            You are the one who deserves cookies for THAT!!!

            • Midwest Mom

              Do you think it’s a coincidence that The Bieber and Cruise have waned in popularity, while Literati Hottie John Sweeney has become an international sex symbol and has a new drink, “The Sweeny Martini” (garnished with a cherry tomato) and a pasta dish, “Sweeney Scallopini”, named after him?

              I am saving the planet here, people!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I curtsy to you’re awesomeness…and you made me hungry!

            • Midwest Mom

              Type in Literati Hottie on the different search engines. 😉

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Thanks so much. Tom would thank you but he’s busy speed dating right now.

            • i-Betty

              You crack me up!

        • Captain Howdy

          ; )

      • noseinabk

        That looked like it was written for teen beat magazine. Poor thing
        .

  • California

    A bit off-topic but here is David E. Love on Applied Scholastics on Karin Poux and the ASAP scam: http://www.examiner.com/article/karin-pouw-and-scientology-s-applied-scholastics-asap-scam

  • sugarplumfairy

    So.. He stole the boy scout code too..

    • DodoTheLaser

      Ha! I just googled it, good catch, SPF!

      • RMycroft

        They stole the Boy Scouts too, and seconded them to the Sea Org to sell books.

        http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/RogerRamdrive/2002commend.jpg:original

        • sugarplumfairy

          Aaaaaggghhhh…………

          • RMycroft

            But think of the really special Merit Badges!

            • John P.

              You mean like the merit badges called “Patronius Gluteus Maximus,” “New Civilization Builder,” “Humanitarian,” “Freedom Medal,” and all the rest? Just like Boy Scout merit badges except a little more expensive. And the Sea Org uniforms are way more dorky, with all that rope.

            • DodoTheLaser

              And don’t forget The Genius Award:

              [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/2ypgtaq.jpg[/IMG]

            • Missionary Kid

              Unfortunately, the real geniuses leave. They realize that doing things the same old way is following a douche like LRH. Their option is out.
              Another example of $cion misuse of terms.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Aaaaaaggghhh… Aaaaagggghhhh…

        • DodoTheLaser

          Fucking sad.

        • Captain Howdy

          So the Boy Scouts won’t let gays in but they’ll let their cadets hang around with scientologists?

          WARNING (SurgarPlumFairy) SCILON SITE!!! > http://www.troop8.cc/program.htm

          • sugarplumfairy

            you’re so thoughtful..

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      He invented the boy scouts!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Great analysis of The Auditors Code – the good (caring about one, listening and wanting to help)
    and the bad (manipulation/being Hubbard’s tool in his fantasy money-making game).

    • FistOfXenu

      You forgot the ugly: turning you into a Ronbot afraid of your own idea and opinions because the bastards totally invalidate you unless you parrot Liar Ron Humptydumpty.

      • DodoTheLaser

        True that. Thank you, FoX.

        • FistOfXenu

          You’re welcome. Now you mind telling me how I can get that theme tune out of my head? I’ve caught myself whistling it ever since you posted that.

          • DodoTheLaser

            It’s kind of cool tune, but since you asked, here’s the antidote from Sam Fox:

            [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/2ypgtaq.jpg[/IMG]

            Hope it helps. 🙂

            • FistOfXenu

              Funny guy. 🙂

            • DodoTheLaser

              I meant this:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSbkYjQer8

              It worked!!!

              Here’s another antidote:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuHdUkuRi0

            • FistOfXenu

              Thanks for trying to help there Dodo. No offense but that’s 4 minutes of my life gone forever. I’m sure the young lady has her merits and at least I won’t be humming that song for the next hour. 🙂
              I think I’ll put on some jazz. That usually helps.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Not blaming you a bit. I suggest some eclectic tunes.

            • FistOfXenu

              Could be worse. I could be stuck with songs from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in my head.

            • DodoTheLaser

              I hear you, brother.

              For my hard joy:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc

              Not vid, just shred. And energy.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Thank you so much for this, Dodo. I’ve been seriously needing motivational music for my torturous physical therapy workout sessions and Nothing in my collection fits the bill. This will do it!

            • Observer

              Ohhhh, don’t get me started on that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang abomination! My dad bought me the book (by Ian Fleming, incidentally) when I was 8. It was cool and modern and had gangsters and English kids being kidnapped to Paris by bad guys and a sentient car that helped their parents save them. Upon my first exposure to the movie (in my 20s) … well, there are no adjectives which adequately express my horror and disgust. I’ve still only seen about 15 minutes total.

            • Midwest Mom

              Did you know that Benny Hill played the toy maker in that film?

            • Observer

              Nope. He wasn’t in the 15 minutes I’ve seen. lol

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I was such a dork! I loved all things Julie Andrews when I was a kid. And all things Doris Day!
              And no one could sing God Bless America like Kate Smith.

              So there you go…I am so not cool.

              edit: and now I keep singing chitty chitty bang bang in my head! (I think I am going to force a Que Sera Sera engram restim instead)

            • FistOfXenu

              But you’ve freed your mind right? Stopped drinking the unKoolAid?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              No, but I did become fascinated with serial killers….so that (and lots of black eyeliner) honed my edge a bit.

            • Observer

              Hey! Stop the h8! Some of us have been lifelong uncool cats. :-p

            • FistOfXenu

              No hating here, Observer. Cool is too arbitrary to mean much.

            • Observer

              I know, I was just yanking your chain. I’m nowhere near that easily offended. But I’m not cool, either. 😉

            • Midwest Mom

              I have the song, “Truly Scrumptious” in my head. 🙂

            • noseinabk

              I just gotta say thank you. I have a few songs I will repeat all day to torture my kids and think I will add this one.

            • Midwest Mom

              ha ha! It sounds best with an English accent!

            • Observer

              I was trying to think of an even more annoying earworm to inflict upon you, but it backfired and now I’ve got this horrible thing stuck in my head. I guess that should be a lesson to me.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cdFuMgMkBM

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Observer! Some things are just not funny!

            • Observer

              Well, here, try this one as a peace offering.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPD2X_pjAY

            • einsteinonthebeach

              Awesome. I play Maya.

            • Observer

              I played through as Maya the first time, and I’m partway through as Axton. Love the turret!

            • einsteinonthebeach

              I played Zer0 the first time through– but I used to post here as “Axton” for kicks

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I accept your peace offering. Cool. 😉

            • FistOfXenu
            • Observer

              Rickrolled on Tony’s blog! I’m so ashamed …

            • FistOfXenu

              Sorry Observer, I couldn’t resist. It seems so appropriate for us here especially anybody that ever made it to the early Anon demonstrations. Rickrolling has a place of honor among us.

            • RMycroft
            • FistOfXenu

              Wow! For me??

            • Captain Howdy

              That’s a bubblegum classic!

            • Observer

              Ugh, that came out when I was in high school. Between it and “The Night Chicago Died” I was afraid to turn on the radio. No bubblegum for me!

  • BosonStark

    Even if he didn’t read it, it’s good that Eric Roux and other clams will give Jenna’s book great inside-the-cult publicity by even mentioning it.

    Sea Org members especially, should ache with curiosity about her life’s story of growing up on that road so early. She should have been perfect, right? The perfect Scientologist?

    Jenna had what Tom Cruise feels he lacked — total immersion in Scientology starting as a toddler. No one would have made fun of him for being on the slow side. He would have been the perfect Ronbot.

  • scnethics

    Vance, you’re a trip, man! 🙂

  • i-Betty

    Hi guys 🙂

    A couple of days ago, Jensting posted a link here about the Information Commission Office who handle data protection in the UK; specifically the data CoS moves out of the country to the US.

    I started a new thread over at OCMB about this and I thought you all (but particularly Jensting) would like to see the incredible letter that HeyJupiter has written to the ICO today. It’s a seriously good letter 😀

    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=244132&p=653645#p653645

    • Midwest Mom

      Thank you Betty! Thanks also for all the work you do! 😉

      • i-Betty

        Thank you! I do very little compared with the rest of you, but thank you 🙂 *searches for a hug emote*

  • i-Betty

    Vance – “Besides, I aspired to be a good communicator.” Well you certainly achieved that 🙂

    “The patient would not dare address the world which has gotten inside him and turn his back upon the world that is outside him unless he has a sentry.” – already the ‘auditee’ is being trained to turn his back on the world and focus solely on his scientology friends for advice and comfort from now on?

    “But my point is I never would have even realized that these were aberrations without the help of auditing.” – LOL!

  • Bella Legosi

    I wish Carrie Nation were alive today so she could hatchet a Lron bookstore! I was offended as a woman this oaf even mentions her. Well, following this dianetics series (of which I love Tony for! That means I don’t have to read the crap or taint my library account with Hub’s brainfarts!) I take offense with a lot of Hub’s views on women. As far as religions go, he sure has the hate on for us girls.

    • Missionary Kid

      I don’t wish Carrie Nation was here today. She was against all alcoholic beverages.
      I understand your desire to have the Lron bookstores smashed, but she threw out the baby, alcoholism, along with the bathwater, alcoholic drinks.

      There is some evidence that the temperance movement actually increased the amount of alcoholics because before the Prohibition Era, women did not traditionally drink in bars. With the start-up Prohibition, and, of course, speakeasies, many more women drank, as well as other citizens, than before. The delicious feeling of tasting the “forbidden fruit” of alcohol also gave crappy booze a thrill aura it didn’t have before.
      Instead of smashing up the Lron bookstores, it would be better to inject every copy of Diacrappy with cat or deer urine.

      • Trustmeonthis

        An early example of the Streisand Effect!

        • Missionary Kid

          I started to say, “Not really,” and I started to write a long dissertation, but, in a way, you’re right.
          Ol’ Carrie had been dead for 8 years before the 18th Amendment became law.

          • ThetaBara

            Personally, I know *I* started drinking specifically because all the adults told me I’d better not. I figured they had to be onto something. (And they were full of shit about a lot of other things, so…)

            • Missionary Kid

              I was raised not to,
              “Dance, drink, smoke, or Chew,
              Or go with girls who do.”
              The justification for those prohibitions were basically lies. When I started to realize it, I started to question them, as well as a lot of the other religious BS that overlaid it

              Years later, when I worked in alcoholism, I discovered that children raised in teetotaling households were at higher risk for alcoholism because they had no social context for learning the proper use of alcohol.
              BTW, my grandmother was a charter member of the local WCTU. Carrie Nation was a hero of hers, so I well knew who she was.

              My relatives said that for a while she was a real booster of taking a patent medicine called Hadacol, because “it really pepped her up.” Along with the vitamins it contained was 12% alcohol. (That’s 24 proof). Hadacol was sold in dry counties at pharmacies. Eventually, since it was a scam, it collapsed.in 1951.

      • Bella Legosi

        I just visualized Carrie Nation walking into a Co$, dressed like she is going to a funeral, and just going nuts! Yeah, I don’t agree with her stance on alcohol! “Alcohol did not create Al Capone. Prohibition created Al Capone.” I tend to agree.

        • Missionary Kid

          Besides, Co$ would scream, “Religious Persecution.”

          • Bella Legosi

            Yeah I am soooooo tired of hearing that! Newsflash Co$ YOU ARE NOT A RELIGION> Co$ is just a horrible, plagerized, glorified, expensive and evil cult! I remember Mormons said the same things back in the day. 🙂 How did Joseph Smith die again? A mob? Who needs torches and pitchforks? 🙂

            • Missionary Kid

              The Mormons did indeed face persecution, mostly because they were strident in their beliefs that they had the true word of god, and that god had ordained them. That pissed off the locals in the Midwest, because, as far as they were concerned, the LDS members were sexual deviants and apostate from Christianity.

              The Mormons gave as well as they got with the Mountain Meadows Massacre. That was probably a result of their paranoia and fervor.

              Co$ has the paranoia, as well as the determination to harm anyone who thwarts their goals. The problem that Co$ has, though, is that it doesn’t take care of its aged, and, while it claims to be family friendly, it isn’t.

              Mormons, for the most part, walk the walk, while $cientologists only talk the talk.
              As a friend of mine says, Mormons are the nicest cult he knows.

            • Bella Legosi

              I always hated it when my family members slammed the door on Mormons or Johovahs. They were so nice. I was nice.to some mormons and they ended up asking my mom if i could go to a summer camp. I also had a manager that was mormon too and he was happy too much. I watched him have a meltdown and then he apologized for it lol

            • Missionary Kid

              What you have to remember is that both the LDS and the JWs have their own form of disconnection. The JWs is called disfellowship, and you are in essence, cast out of the group. The LDS has excommunication, and not only are you not allowed to participate in the church, but the members are free to do with you what they will. Like Co$, they have their secret rituals, too. For the JWs, disfellowship is on a personal level. Compared with the $cions, their versions of disconnection are very mild. Compared with the rest of the Christian sects, they are harsher, but even that varies with the sect and churches and individuals.

              If you’re not a Mormon, you’re a Gentile. I met a Jewish woman who had been a TV reporter in Salt Lake City. She said it was the only place she’d ever been where she was known as a Gentile.

              The problem is that when you are excommunicated by the LDS, you’re usually working for them or along side them or doing business with them. They support businesses of other LDS members to the extent that it hurts if they withdraw their business. It can easily send a person into bankruptcy.

              Your mom was right not to let you go to church camp. I’ve been to enough of them to know that it’s like indoctrination squared. 1. You’re isolated from the outside world. 2. You’re surrounded by people who have the same ethos, and you’re love bombed. 3. There’s a lot of high spirits and hormones (especially when the teenage years approach), so you try to blend in, because there’s usually intense friendships formed. 4. The goal of the camp is to indoctrinate kids in the ethos of the religion. In fundamentalist camps, everyone is there to either get saved or renew their commitment to Jesus. It’s not a billion year contract, but the intensity is the same. At least when you go home, your parents, if you have a half-way decent relationship, will help to deprogram you if they aren’t of the faith of the church camp. 5. Both groups will try to have you adopt their beliefs instead of your parents, but the amount of disconnection from one’s parents is not as extreme as Co$ tries to do. 6. You are encouraged to follow their interpretation of holy scripture.

              They are fun, and they run the kids ragged because it keeps them out of trouble.

              Sound somewhat similar to Co$? The difference is that Co$’s goal is to enslave you and take all your money or your work. The others are trying to save the world and to it to follow their prophets, but it’s not esoteric bullshit worked out by a sociopath designed to bring all the power to him.

              The Mormon missionaries and JWs that come to your door are nice, but remember they’re salespeople. It’s their form of the personality test. The JWs are ignorant of all the different interpretations of the bible, and how it got into it’s present form, the Mormons are smart enough not to get into discussions about evolution, like the JWs, but their whole crap about the golden tablets is like the the Xenu BS in my opinion. Both are apocalyptic sects that surprisingly come out of the same 19th century Christian fervor.

              Both treat their own very well, including the sick and aged, especially the LDS church. They also act pretty ethically towards the unsaved, for the most part. They aren’t trying to rip off the wogs. The same can be said about the 7th day adventists as well as the JWs. The price of this is, of course, adherence to their doctirne.

              If you’re unsaved, you get treated well. If you’ve left the group, and are excommunicated, they aren’t exactly nice. On the other hand, if you leave quietly, there often are only mild penalties, but the leaving has to be carefully done. There are a lot of Jack Mormons in Utah, who left quietly. It’s my understanding they are still on the rolls of the church.

              They have caused a lot of more traditional Christian churches to change their views of them over the past 50 years. The fundamentalists used to consider them so apostate that they were practically called devil worshipers. Now, because of common political viewpoints, they are working together.

              As I said before, the LDS is just about the nicest cult around. Include me out.

            • Bella Legosi

              My family were all Italian and Irish, so we were all Roman Catholic. And I remember them telling me to be nice to people, cuz that is what Jesus expects of us. Love the sinner and all that ya know. Then I would see JW’s or Mormons come to the door and want to talk about “The Good News” and depending on who it was that opened the door, would yell,”We’re Catholic! We don’t believe in your bullshit! Read the sign!” and slam the door right in their faces. I have heard of others who have gotten ice water and threw it on them like they were carolers. As a kid I couldn’t understand being that horrible to a group of people who loved Jesus sooo damn much they would go thru this sort of abuse. Then when I began to listen to Marilyn Manson and Nirvana (I was about 12 or 13) I answered the door to a couple of Mormons. They saw the Manson shirt and didn’t even miss a step. I was used to religious types looking at me like I would eat their babies, but these didn’t. They asked why I liked his music and I told them I enjoyed the instrumentals more then the actual lyrics (sorry but Manson’s songs can be very weird lol). They could tell right off that I was being polite and even told them as much. Saying it really isn’t Christlike to verbally abuse strangers, even if they come to your door! lol I think that threw them off. So they started coming once a week to talk to me. My mom and her boyfriend joked, saying, “Bella’s Mormons are here” They started to ask about my family’s religion and if I had ever been confirmed or taken part in Communion. I told them I hadn’t and really wasn’t interested. That is when talk of a Summer Camp started. It creeped me out. They would talk up the camp and end with, “If your mom lets you go. Do you think she would?” They had only asked about my mom once before and that was to make sure I wasn’t hauled off by an agry mother and them told to fuck off. Then they finally sacked up and asked whether or not I wanted to go. At first I made up excuses saying we didn’t have the money for it, no transportation, and of course they said they would handle it all I just needed my moms permission. They started telling me how I should approach my mom and try to talk her into this. At about this time I was kicking myself in the ass for being so damn nice. I thought, “This is creepy! Now, I know why people slam the door in their face’s!” Talk about persistance. I said I would have to think about it and would let them know when they came back the next week. My mom noticed I wasn’t my happy go lucky self I normally was after I talked to Jesus People (that was my name for them back then) and she asked what was going on. I told her everything about the summer camp and how they wanted me to talk her into letting me go, but I really never wanted to go, I was just being nice to them and they were taking it for all it was worth. So, the next week came around and the Mormon’s showed up, but instead of me that answered the door it was my mom. They were their happy Mormons selfs, telling my mom she had a really bright daughter and then they layed it on thick for her and told her about the summer camp. They empahized that LDS would cover any cost for us. lol Then my mom interrupted them and told them that I was just being nice to these people, I had zero interest in going to any camp, and had I had any interest she wouldn’t let me go anyways. She told them not to come back and to leave us alone. They agreed and never came back. In fact that was the last time I had to deal with door to door Salvation Salesman again!

              It wasn’t til about 10 years later that I began to find out what being Mormon is really about. The magic underwear, Kolon, ect. It still creeps me out to this day that they tried to recruit me. Thank god for South Park damn it! 🙂

              Also, the manager I worked with who was Mormon, was prolly the nicest dude on this planet. Always willing to go the extra mile, smiled and greeted everyone, NEVER cursed. I would tell him that he can not be that damn nice all the time. Its gonna explode out if he didnt show his anger. He was engaged to a girl he had grown up with in the LDS church. He had never been with anyone else, as in the farthest he got with this girl was second base and had not even taken another girl to a dance or movie. He came up to me on my break and asked if he could talk to me. I told him of course. He started spilling his heart out, saying he wasn’t sure if he was doing the right thing marrying this woman, that he wanted to play the feild before marrying her, nervous about only being with one person for the rest of his life. I was at a loss for words. I knew he was EXPECTED to marry this girl and if I told him not too how would he deal with what he wanted for himself and what the LDS and his family thought was good for him. In the end he married her.

              Right around the time of Prop 8, another Mormon I knew decided he didnt want to be gay anymore. At the time I thought he was just being silly. But, yeah he went on this huge going straight kick and went back to the LDS for a little bit. He found a sex therapist that would marry him and I guess they are happy. Kinda awkward when they lived with his ex boyfriend of 10 years. But hey its Portland, we do weird very very well!

              So yeah, looking back at all this, Mormon’s, Rainbow Girls, I am glad I stuck to basic common sense and was taught the valuble lesson, “Being nice isn’t what its always cracked up to be.” For lack of a better lesson saying! (just woke up and trying to go thru all my Disqus stuff)

            • Bella Legosi

              I am happy to have lived and grew up the way I did and here in Portland. I am a sterotypical Libra. I hate choosing sides and am always willing to give people the benifit of doubt. But, that willingness should not be construed as me actually buying what is being pitched. Unfortunately, it has been my expericence that is exactly how most people will take that sort of attitude. I grew up with the very very basic Catholic upbringing. The Ten Commandments, Genisis, and generally Jesus was pretty much a Socialist Hippy whos doctrine has been perverted to meet the ends of endless Charlotons (on the crappy computer without spell check…..can’t you tell I never was touched by Study Tech lol?) So, its more accurate to say I was raised semi-secular with leaning toward the “first” Universal Church. However, I questioned the Genisis logic around the age of 5, I asked my grandmother if God created only Adam and Eve (like the good book says) then the only ones who could marry eachother were brothers and sisters, hence we are all products of incest and is that what is meant by “original sin”? Needless to say my grandmother was shocked that I even knew what incest meant let alone think it thru to the conclusion I had come to. I got no answer and was told I didn’t know what I was talking about and that I would “get it later when you grow up.” I think it was that moment that allowed me to continue questioning religion and showed me ultimately that nothing in religion is set in stone. No matter what is taught, people will always interpret it in their own way and put their own spin on it to make it easier to believe and perpetrate on the “unsaved”. I never went to any Church service outside the Catholic Mass or Lutherine sundays (lol when I told the Lutheran’s I was brought up Catholic they actually said, “oh that’s why you arn’t religious! hahahaha”) But, interestingly the Seventh Day Adventists have their headquarters here in Oregon. They practically take over Gladstone OR once a year for their revivals. The entire town has thousends of RVs come thru. Oregon is also home to Rash NiShis? and the Cult of Cthulu. Seems Oregon is a fine stomping ground for Kool Aid flavors of all kinds and colors. Thankfully, most of us here are irreligous deviants with a dash of arrogance and some intelligence. I think that is why I grew up with some common sense secular thinking and I thank what invisable entity there may be out there in time or space for the experiences I have.

            • Bella Legosi

              Oregon City also is home to a sect of Christian Scientists. They were in the news a year or so back, because two infants died and the med examiner or social worker turned the parents in for neglect. The first couple were convicted and the second couple were aquitted. I tried to pull up an artical about them but my puter is really really slow. I am surrounded by all forms of Kool Aid drinkers here! Thank god for booze!

            • Missionary Kid

              Hi Bella,

              WARNING! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

              I’ve been offline for several days, because I’ve been traveling. I flew in someone else’s airplane from the Palm Springs area to Spokane to help them get their plane home, then took a commercial flight to your city to visit a friend and see my son & grandson.

              WARNING!

              Look out Portland, another SP is here. I do plan on, at some time, visiting the den of iniquity, also known as the Co$, here to see what it looks like in person.

              Today, though, I’m going with my buddy (who lives in Beaverton) to McMinniville to the air museum.

              Parts of Portland are like a 60s time warp, but with more tattoos and piercings. So far, I’m enjoying it.

            • Bella Legosi

              Welcome to the Den baby! lol Portland is an experience I am sure you will not forget. The Westside of Stumptown is a lot nicer then the East. I can not speak for those on the West Side tho, I spend most of my time in South East or in Oregon City. We are a city that has pockets of nice neighborhoods or totally ghetto! But, in this city most of the Creatures of the Night are pretty damn chill and sweet (most will ask you for change and not scoff if you only give them a smoke and $.25) I have been meaning to head down to the monstrosity on SW 3rd for a week or so now. Kinda stuck in Oregon City for the moment! I hope you have a good time here Kiddo! and Welcome to PDX; a weird wonderful place where Grunge and Kurt Cobain never really died!

            • Bella Legosi

              Oh my have fun at the museum! I always wanted to see the Spruce Goose! I take it you will prolly see the other Spruce Goose downtown soon as well! I find it hilarious that Ideal mOrg is smack in the middle of Stripper Ally and not far from W. Bursides LBGT community. They got Scientologys # 😉

      • Bella Legosi

        lol oh my I have found a legit reason to bottle cat piss! Thank you MK! hahahahahahahhah

    • TheNextMrsTomCruise

      I was thinking about Elron’s hate/love opinions on women earlier Bella. He was married three times (God knows how, who the hell would marry THAT). You would think that with all the kids he had, he’d have learned just a bit about childbirth, but NO! Any man who expects a silent childbirth, is batshit nuts. Childbirth is traumatic for the baby, sure, but nothing compared to the trauma undergone by the mother. I guess he wanted the kids borne silently, so he could screw them up later on. And don’t even get me started about Ron’s love/hate for women’s private parts. He seems to view them as the root of all evil, amazing, for someone who had so much sex during his lifetime. Most douches back in Ron’s day consisted of vinegar and water, which wouldn’t burn, even if it got near the baby. If there is any reincarnative justice, Ron will be reborn as Octomom.

      • Bella Legosi

        I think of Hubtard’s view of women being wholly unoriginal and very close to the way men treated women in the early 20th century. Back then it was a given to give children to the fathers, not mothers. That shows you even our own justice system was rigged against us. If you have ever seen the movie, “Lenny”, he touches on the male taking the child away from the mother, not because that was the best enviroment for the child, but as a sure fire way to get back at the mother. I see a lot of truth in that. And that is how the game was set up back in the 50’s. As for Hub’s “undeniable” attraction, I believe a lot of them were very vunrable and easy marks for this man to manipulate. It seems when anyone goes on a God-Kick they must always be superior to women. I theroize that logically any God that is a Man can not create life, only women. And this logic trap really seems to fuck with men. So, they spin a logic wheel that takes the focus away from that til it only serves that Man’s purpose of manipulation and control. lol Did that make any sense? lol I can clarify a little later!

        If there was any justice L Ron would be born a Chihuahua whos owner is a very very lonely old gay man who likes dressing up the dog in drag. I would say born a kitty, but kitty kind doesn’t deserve a low blow like that.

  • Sherbet

    Loving Woodward’s sense of humor!

    lrh’s Womb with a View: Douches, abortions, and beatings, Oh, my!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Womb with a View = winner! Dianetics should be a warning for all pregnant ladies to take their prenatal vitamins … religiously. Ron’s mom probably didn’t (I’m 50% sure) and look what she begat.

  • SP ‘Onage

    “He mentions later that he hasn’t actually read the book.”

    Oh, brother! Why do I not care? *facepalm*

    I think the next scientology GENIUS AWARD should go to Eric Roux.

    • Credit to Senator Catherine Génisson for asking the crucial follow-up question. I get the impression, reading through the text of the hearings, that at least two senators had read the book — certainly they were referring to it and asking witnesses to respond to elements in it.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Looks like Senator Catherine Génisson did her homework. She knew he wasn’t allowed to read the book, too much entheta.
        Kudos to Senator Genisson! 🙂

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Eric stated that 50% of what Jenna wrote in her book was probably false, so he was questioned about how he knew that. I’m 50% sure Eric is probably going to a scientological hell hole now for making the mistake of employing a statistical ruler to tell his 100% lie.

          • FistOfXenu

            He should’ve been asked to be specific about which parts were lies. These damn $cibot PR people, they just deal in generalities. Hey, you don’t suppose they’re….. SUPPRESSIVE?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Either that or OT 8.

          • SP ‘Onage

            Yep. The Tiny Terror of Teegeeack is going to make him SCOHB for that mistake.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “I think the next scientology GENIUS AWARD should go to Eric Roux.”

      You got my vote, SP ‘Onage!

      • SP ‘Onage

        Thanks! I didn’t know they had a genius award until I read your post yesterday. lol

        • DodoTheLaser

          Welcome, bud. I was surprised just as much. Mike Rinder leaked it yesterday.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            wait. Not a shoop? Because if it’s not, since they won’t give us our SP Declares, I wanna Genius Awards for all of us who figured it out and left!

    • Missionary Kid

      The $ciontology GENIUS AWARD is, of course, a subgroup of the DARWIN AWARD.

      • DodoTheLaser

        “The $ciontology GENIUS AWARD is, of course, a subgroup of the DARWIN AWARD.”

        And perhaps PAVLOV AWARD too? Bark, bark! The irony.

  • Ze Moo

    The ‘Purification Rundown’ should be banned for all but ‘religious’ purposes. Using it as a detox or a medical procedure is just quack medicine. Jenna’s book is getting attention all over the world. Good for her.

  • MarionDee

    I’ve had the flu for a couple of days and I’m still not exactly well, so maybe that’s why I’m touchy. Or maybe I’m
    touchy because ole’ Ron is freely dissing history that—well, it’s my specialty. I’ve written a whole book about 19th-century theatre and silent film. So ….Grrrrrr!

    His dissing silent film–don’t get me started. I’ll just say that Theda Bara (though those photos of her in vamp mode now look quite camp if you don’t know the context) is the single most important person in film history in
    terms of bringing erotic female figures to the screen. (Of course, I can see that LRH would be threatened by that particular contribution.) He also ignores the obvious fact that Bara wasn’t kitsch in her own day. Then, she also was known for high-toned fare like “Romeo and Juliet” and was almost always seen with a book in her hand. Any supposed engrams wouldn’t necessarily be negative.

    Ahem. “The Drunkard.” (Stay with me, please!) Melodrama was not exactly subtle, but it gave the vast majority of Americans a direct, adrenalized version of their own experiences … real poverty and real social problems that they needed to see expressed, and that usually went unnoted on Broadway (and few people could afford Broadway). The plays, though they are seriously studied now, can seem stupid if you don’t know why they were written and how they were received in their own day. “The Drunkard,” written in 1842, was considered kitsch by the 1870s and 80s, so the supposed woman remembering its original effect for the auditors was a witness to rare history–the play’s original effect, which had a thundering, over-corrective moral, but which also struck a powerful, much-needed social blow when it was written. She would also remember much about the night in general; the theatre and its audience was different then. What’s so wrong with that? Grrrrr. (She would also be preposterously old.)

    And the idea of someone being audited and reeling off whole sections of “The Drunkard” is hilarious.
    There are so many lost melodramas from that period, not to mention lost literature. Someone call the Juilliard Division of the New York Public Library quickly, and also Yale … last I knew, they need 19th century scripts very badly! There must have been SOME Scientologist who was audited about”The Fatal Wedding”!

    Finally, to think that, til now, I thought that “views” (silent films from the 1890s which are simply short documents of people crossing the street (unaware of the camera etc.) are the first living visual history we have. It’s fantastic: you can even seen their breath. But just imagine what lost history could be restored through the science of engrams! Just think, the evocation of decades lost! This closes an entire genre of literature, of course …no more need for fantasies about time travel, or any science fiction that falls in that genre. Just do some mass auditing, and start gathering the truth of the past, as lived, as heard in the womb. It will be stranger than fiction.

    LRH. Today, his ignorance got me where Iived. Thanks for letting me vent. And grrrrrrr.

    • John P.

      Thanks for a great essay. I don’t know much about early films, but I agree based on my interest in things medieval that it’s important (and not all that difficult) to understand the cultural context for stuff in order to appreciate it fully. Your getting your ire up over Hubbard’s idiotic comments about stuff he doesn’t understand is just like how I felt about a year ago when Tony published videos from the “Birthday event” including Hubbard talking about how he visited an early computer and “gave it a neurosis” by asking it a simple question that none of the educated math geniuses involved in the project thought of. All of that showed that Hubbard lied completely about the experience, and understood not one single thing about the computers of the day (or even the computers of the day when he gave that lecture). My blood still boils when I think of that… So my advice to you is to remember that Hubbard seems like even more of an idiot with every passing day; take a deep breath and go outside and enjoy the day (beautiful spring weather here). As they say, “Illegitimi non carborundum.”

      • MarionDee

        Such a nice reply. I’m glad you know where I’m coming from. When you start subjecting other people to your particular interests, you often wonder if you’ve crossed the line into navel-gazing.

        • Karen715

          Don’t feel that way. I come here for the sci-news, but I stay for the interesting and often wide-ranging discussion.

          • noseinabk

            ^^^^ Ditto^^^^ Since I mostly lurk I am hugely impressed when anyone takes the time to give us info and enjoy all the little tidbits we learn along the way.

            • MarionDee

              Noseinabk: Thank you. God knows I’ve learned a lot here, as I’m sure you do …. and elsewhere, too, considering your screen-name.

            • noseinabk

              🙂

          • MarionDee

            That’s so nice of you, Karen715. I read the responses the same way.

      • Ze Moo

        Lroon could barley use a typewriter, a computer as he described it was just the past equivalent of a calculator. Get angry about Lroons nasty use and misuse of people. Enjoy his idiocy on every other subject. He was just a pompous dick.

      • ThetaBara

        I would love to read your book. I adore old movies!
        Oops. I mean MarionDee’s book. I’m such a ninny sometimes!

        • MarionDee

          Obviously no ninny, considering that incredible screen name!

          • ThetaBara

            Thanks, just got it today! 😉

      • Truthiwant

        That video Scientology made about the day Hubbard visited a computer room is unrealistically bad. He was pretending to be brighter than people like Alan Turing.
        The worst thing is that the video was made right now, in a time when even a 3 year old child can understand computer language. You cannot give a computer ‘neurosis’. It’s worse than the worst Hollywood film of the 1950’s.

        • FistOfXenu

          Ron lived and died never knowing how many people thought he was just plain old ridiculous.

    • stillgrace

      The flus that are going around are bad news. Relapsing is common, so keep us with the rest, etc., even after you are feeling better. In February, after my fever broke, I had double-vision for 24 hours!

      Now the good news: if you ever get to the SF Bay Area in California, there’s a unique museum in Fremont, CA. It’s called the “Niles Essanay Silent Film Museum.” It’s only open on weekends from noon to 4pm. Such a good time! No engrams have ever been reported.

      • MarionDee

        Thank you, I will take care of myself.

        I know of that theatre, but have never been there. If I am in California again, it will definitely be on my list. Essanay was a really notable early company, and it’s a bit eerie how close the film industry came to being established in SF or somewhere up the coast.

      • N. Graham

        I took a lot of film classes in college and could never figure out where Niles, Calif. was until I moved to Fremont, CA. and realized Niles was one of the small villages incorporated into Fremont. While I was there they decided to finally preserve the depot that Charlie Chaplin used for “The Vagabond” and “The Tramp.” Keystone Kops were filmed there also. The main reason California was first used for films is because they needed a lot of light for films so shot them outdoors in the sun, and California had a lot of sun (among other reasons).

        • stillgrace

          I can understand your initial confusion. Google maps now cooperates with the idea of communities within a city. Fremont is made up of communities (Niles, Warm Springs, Mission San Jose, etc.) just like San Jose is made up of communities (Willow Glen, Berryessa, Cambrian Park, Downtown, etc.). However, all these communities are under the umbrella of the main cities.

          You might ask someone where they live, and if they answered “Willow Glen”, that would be a perfectly accurate, acceptable, and detailed answer, and yet, on that same person’s mail, it will say “San Jose” with a unique zip code for the Willow Glen area.

          • N. Graham

            So you know what I mean!

    • Midwest Mom

      Thanks for venting. 🙂 I hope you are starting to feel a little bit better and that you have someone who can run errands for you. Take it easy, okay?

    • Captain Howdy

      Bravo!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks for that accurate history. I researched just a little when I discovered in family research a silent film actor. I was so happy to find some of the films still available. While he transitioned over in the talking pictures, the silent films were much more dramatic and artful and in his films particularly encaptured the wild west adventurous and pioneer spirit in America. The support teams that produced these films were even more hardy and resilient in perilous environments than the storybook characters they were producing. It is a fascinating portrait and part of the american culture. And as to views on women, we’ve come a long way baby (except for certain republicans, of course). Women were just necesary slaves back then.

      And don’t let Hubbard get under your skin. He just does that to give you something to audit. He had a drug habit to support after all and film didn’t come cheap, like his wimmen.

      • MarionDee

        “He just does that to give you something to audit” — hilarious! You are right about the hardiness and resilience of silent Hollywood’s creative teams. You often see a photo of an actor and a photographer and expect that we are seeing a detail of a larger photo. In fact, we are often seen the entire creative team involved in the scene.

        Have you seen the silent-film documentary series “Hollywood,” by Kevin Brownlow’s Photoplay Productions? I couldn’t recommend it more. It’s now on YouTube.

        LRon’s sexism just astounds me. Nice to know that the most powerful actresss in history was Mary Pickford (full creative control over her movies) and that female screenwriter Frances Marion came to dominate her profession. Just sayin’.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Will definitely check it out.

          • MarionDee

            I’ve never heard of anyone not loving it.

    • 1subgenius

      “Any supposed engrams wouldn’t necessarily be negative.”

      I have asked this question before. Aren’t there any positive engrams? And if not, why not?

      • FistOfXenu

        Because LRH decided to convince us all that life 100% sucks unless you’re doing $cientarCONon.

      • N. Graham

        I have always tried to look at the glass as half full, so I guess you could call me a positive N. Graham.

        • FistOfXenu

          I look for the glass to be half full. Then I drink it. Is that positive or negative?

        • Observer

          lol grrrooooaaannnn

        • q-bird

          Oh!!! I got it! cracking me up… holy moly am i a slow one… i got SP’onage right quick a while back but Mr Graham, I never said your name out loud… with the N. Ha! 😛

      • grundoon

        Hubbard’s business model – selling a product for which the demand is ever-renewing – was Amway (cleansers) rather than Avon (cosmetics). He boasted that his methods could scrub away ALL the engrams and get you 100% clean like no other cleansing.

        Of course if you had positive engrams you wouldn’t want to scrub them away. And to implant positive engrams, it would be necessary to deliver memorably positive experiences and incidents, which would probably involve an outlay of funds and a concern with others’ happiness, both foreign concepts to Hubbard.

    • ThetaBara

      I would love to read your book! Although I may already have. I adore old movies. 😉

  • Trustmeonthis

    I want to change my ID to ThetaBara.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Oh you gotta!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        ThetaBaracuda!

      • Trustmeonthis

        Ok. Dibs!
        I gotta get my IT guy (aka Mr TMOT) to set me up an email for it but I think I will.

    • Trustmeonthis

      Holy crap, that was easy! (If it worked, LOL.)

      • Trustmeonthis

        Well crap, only the pic changed. Hmm.

        • ThetaBara

          Now?

        • FistOfXenu

          LOL – Disqus forgot who you used to be.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Another “totally not about scientology” art theater play/project? Finally, scientology produces real artworks. lol

    [This Saturday, the Orange County troupe makes its NYC debut at the Upper West Side’s Underground Lounge with “Herb Marks,” a series featuring a vertically challenged detective played by MaryLee Shorr. In “Time Wounds
    All Heels,” Herb battles the Chronologists — an organization with an uncanny resemblance to Scientology — while in “Make Me an Offer I Can Refuse,” he becomes embroiled with the Mafia. The adventures will continue the third Saturday of every month for the rest of the year.]

    http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/theater/aargh_thar_be_pirates_7VsKq1ntU0xg4Z5DWolTBL

  • SciWatcher

    Off topic, but here is a very-well written editorial about reporters being soft on Tom Cruise during his current promotional tour: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/white-smiles-and-puff-interviews-how-tom-was-in-cruise-control-29188767.html

    • Observer

      Excellent. “The Great God Cruise” lol!

    • aquaclara

      Bury’s comment attached to the editorial is funny and tweet-repeatable…
      “Well I want to know all about Xenu and he has the knowledge. Why won’t somebody ask?”
      Love this!

  • dbloch7986

    I made a new video about life in the Sea Org,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3b89J5Ehk

    And a new blog post about life since leaving Scientology:

    http://dbloch7986.blogspot.com/2013/04/life-after-scientology.html

    • Midwest Mom

      Great job! You’ve been busy! 🙂

    • aquaclara

      This new life you’re building comes with fewer directions, no floating needles, no uniforms and only one microphone – turned on only when YOU choose to use it. Love the videos – you have a great inner voice for sharing stories.
      Your talents go way, way,way beyond shredding, my friend! Damn cult.

    • N. Graham

      Good job Derek!

    • SP ‘Onage

      I don’t know how you put up with their crap for so long? It was so degrading. Keep up the good work! I enjoy your vids.

  • mook
    • dbloch7986

      Looking at the campaign it appears that all their ideas are user submitted. Although the irony of mixing “being positive” with anything related to Scientology cannot be overlooked.

  • Scions resulting to desperate measures [still can’t bring themselves to be honest about it]

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      and this is wot?

      • the secret scientology bus

        • sugarplumfairy

          For real?

          • noseinabk

            Don,t think so.
            I was dumb enough to google it.
            Wish it was true just for the lulz.

          • never underestimate the lengths they’ll go to to attract fresh meat

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Ooooh, it’s like a Scientology food truck. Yummy, yummy clams!

  • TheWidowDenk

    Testing …

    • 1subgenius

      It didn’t work.

      • FistOfXenu

        So, 1subgenius, it’s just like $cientarCONon’s personality test. Perfect!

    • Midwest Mom

      I see it, Mrs. Denk. Welcome back. 🙂

  • mook

    guess who’s starring in a Lifetime Movie about human trafficking? in the words of Arte Johnson from Laugh In, verry interesting…
    http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/lifetime-to-do-human-trafficking-sequel-starring-kirstie-alley-jennifer-finnigan/

    • noseinabk

      I think she is being glib.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      “Babysellers”

      “Alley plays Carla Hughes, a well-respected, influential owner of a major
      U.S.-based adoption agency that helps prospective parents fulfill their
      dream of having a family. While presenting an innocent veneer of
      kindness and good intentions to her trusting clients, behind-the-scenes
      Hughes functions as a ruthless international kingpin, controlling an
      expansive syndicate spanning the world and manned by subordinates
      authorized to use any means necessary to procure children for her
      business.”

      Sounds like excellent casting.

  • FistOfXenu

    Well, I’m done for the evening. for the last hour now, every time I click on anything like “show new reply” or to post or to give somebody an up arrow the page scrolls automatically to that LRH photo with the hypnotic eyes. As soon as I click to post this I’ll be seeing that again. I can’t stand any more of it. Good night when it comes.

    • Sandy

      FoX. That happened today for me, until I did a cold reboot. Now, it is working again ….

  • Captain Howdy

    All you scientologist/steely dan fans can lick my pituitary gland.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFDhxJJMEIY

  • JustCallMeMary

    I really love this series.. it just hits home for me. I hope you make this Dianetics series into a book, with clips from past reviews, and some some current ones, by mental health professionals, interspersed…It would really give the general public the facts about Hubbard’s ‘manual of the mind’

    • I second this motion. An e-book of this series would be extremely useful. It would be perfect for example to sell to the psychiatrists who will gather next month in San Francisco May 18-22 for the American Pschiatric Association’s annual meeting.

  • JustCallMeMary

    Loved the Jonny Jacobson blog piece! Jenna’s book is by far the most important and well written on the inner life of a scientologist.

  • Just when I thought nothing could top the crazy of the scions I came across this photo [I predict this is how Miscavige will disguise himself to sneak out of the country…. the FBI will have impounded his/Tommy Girl’s plane by then]

  • Leave a message…

  • johnny d

    Hi, Tony,
    I do believe its time for all of us to get busy. i have written (and will show you soon) a booklet that counters the COS’s garbage of “The Way To Happiness ” . I do say there is nothing wrong with the persuit of happiness, the booklet i will be “disseminating” is called “What is wrong with Scientology”. I intend to place this “booklet” everywhere, the US, Europe, Mid-east, Central and South America, Africa, Asia and anyware I can stop the cult
    from digging in. My campain will start soon. By now the cult and its spys in OSA are quite hip to whats up, but I have also reached out to many, many News orgs, that will be giving not only my story but *** Alice Wu ‘s *** horrible story in the prison camp of the “church?” of Scientology ………….. Below is the Email I sent to OSA in Australia, to get the ball rolling, I think you might dig it, until next time……..
    johnny d, (formally Thetan-x) out.

    —– Forwarded Message —–
    From: BlowMe.Dave
    To: “public_affairs@scientology.net.au”
    Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:28 AM
    Subject: Hi, just a thought !

    Hi OSA !! it is well known how you treat and care for your “members”, or should I say” PRISONERS ” ?
    The story about ****Alice Wu ******has gone viral and it has become just another nail in the coffin that will
    hold and bury your CULT of GREED and POWER.

    So, OSA-Bots, the reason I’m bringing this to your attention is to let you know that with in
    the coming weeks (I’m going to use some Mr. Dan Sherman-speak to help you understand)…okay ready ??
    ..Thats right, think of the time frame as
    a moment that took place three feet behind all of $cientologists heads, and if you can’t wrap your tiny little theatan minds around THAT!
    Let me put it this way, before you know what hit you, three out of every five humans that read any national / International news paper including the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Dallas Star, The Boston Globe, The London Times & Telegraph, the Amsterdam Recorder, and ON AND ON and on……well if that does not get your attention, well listen up people(OSA). Dissemination of the proof (thats right you heard it THE PROOF)we have all been wainting for, of OSA’S crippling and barbaric tacticts that have been taking place in every “group, mission, class V ORG and Ideal Org” on this planet !!
    Well, that dissemination of facts is now being released, THATS RIGHT AS YOU ARE HEARING THIS , these facts ( oh you don’t know WHAT facts do you?) are being unloaded on EVERY major News organization, including the affore mentioned papers, websites, and radio and we are also talking TELEVISION yes indeed ABC, NBC, FOX, CNN, NPR and every world wide News broadcasting agency and associated Websites that we can unload on…AND if you thought we were done there….well, hold on to your hat, because not only have we brought the news of the most horrible distructrive use of COB David Miscavige’s relentless power and carelessness to news papers, television, websites and all of the media capable of dessemination, we have gone the extra mile as it were >
    We have printed the “TRUTH about SCIENTOLOGY”. Thats right, a booklet so truthfull it will absolutley bring down your dying little cult.
    So if for one moment you think that your silly little TWTH (The Way To Happiness) booklets will trump any thing we have in store, well please feel free to indulge
    in such nonsence, because not only will you be forced to go out with NOTHING, we, thats right US all of the citizens of this planet that
    will no longer put up or look away from the atrocities that the COB of your organization DAVID MISCAVIDGE and his minions and lawyers and the
    private investigators that are hired to spy on, and intimidate non & EX Scientologists, WE ARE DONE .

    So David MisCavige (you little fucking pussy), everyone will know about Alice Wu, but the bigger story will be how Alice Wu DESTROYED Scientology !

    Oh… and David, this America the USA, try and shut me up, its going to take alot more than your leagle team, and I don’t think it would be
    wise for you to try.

  • jensting

    Eric Roux is probably recovering from the mental anguish of having misheard a protester call the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology “escrocs” (French, plural of “escroc” meaning fraudster or crook). Eric Roux felt so bad that he pursued this protester in criminal court for having hurt his feelings. Eric Roux lost on appeal and was ordered to pay up to the protester. That’s nice.

    • richelieu jr

      C’est incroyable!

      Ce sont des escrocs. Ill ne devrait pas être legal d’empecher des gens de dire la vérité.

  • richelieu jr

    “The Auditor’s Code” sounds suspiciously like you should get a Merit Badge for it….