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Jon Atack: A Case of Scientology Fair Game Deflected with Disinfecting Sunlight

Bonnie_WoodsJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He now has a new edition of the book out, and on Saturdays he’s helping us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet.

We’ve been talking a lot lately about Scientology’s policy of “disconnection,” which church members can face when they leave the fold. But some ex-members can face another wave of retaliation from the church, known as Fair Game. Jon Atack reminded us this week of a particular harassment campaign that backfired badly against the church — the case of Bonnie Woods in England.

Woods was an American living in England who had left Scientology in 1982 and then, ten years later, was running a hotline to help other people who defected. Agents from the church retaliated against her by picketing her house and spreading leaflets with misinformation about her. She sued for libel, and the church hit back with three libel suits of its own. Eventually, however, the church was defeated when it had to apologize for spreading lies about Bonnie and her husband Richard.

JON: In 1999, at the High Court in England, Scientologists had to apologize publicly to Richard and Bonnie Woods, for libeling them in a typically scurrilous leaflet. That leaflet was supposed to ‘unmock’ another leaflet, which Richard and Bonnie had handed out to Scientology street recruiters — ‘body routers’ in church lingo — outside the Dianetics shop in East Grinstead.

Local Christians had asked me to come up with something for them to do as Churches Together, so I suggested that they play ‘tag the body-router’: the Scientology street recruiter was approached by a couple of friendly Christians, who would explain that they were spending the shift with the recruiter and would be giving a leaflet to everyone spoken to, along the way. I soon edited the first version of the leaflet, “What the Scientologists Don’t Tell You” so that it began with the story of Xenu, but the one that is today online is still pretty close to that version: it contains some basic, incontravertible information about the cult and its creator.

Christians in Chichester joined in, and Scientology’s new mission there folded quickly and quietly. The Dianetics shop was the first attempt, as far as I know, to set up in the town, which had long been antagonised by Hubbard’s ‘Public Relations Area Control’ techniques. Declaring 25 high street businesses (including law firm Mason and Beer, still practising) Suppressive was not one of Hubbard’s better fits of pique.

Scientology’s suit against Bonnie and Richard was lost, but it had initiated their own very successful countersuit. The cult had to pay over $70,000 in damages (and a small mountain of donations, in legal costs). But the leaflet lives on, in the hearts and minds of Anonymous … and, as Gerry Armstrong once said to me, half a life time ago, “Too long alone have I borne this burden. You share it with me now.”

 
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Scientology Defends Its Subpoenas, Supreme Court Will Consider Decrescenzo Case in September

We have a couple of legal updates: This week, Scientology defended the subpoenas it issued in the Luis Garcia federal fraud lawsuit. The church is gathering evidence for an evidentiary hearing scheduled for September 26, during which they want to prove that Garcia attorneys Ted Babbitt and Ronald Weil improperly relied on help from attorney Robert Johnson, who had previously done work for the church. To gather evidence for that hearing, the church issued supboenas that Babbitt complained were way too far-reaching. In their answer, the church defends the wide range of their subpoenas.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Supreme Court has relegated to a conference on September 30 the church’s petition for a writ of certiorari that it asked for in the Laura DeCrescenzo forced-abortion lawsuit. The Los Angeles Superior Court Judge handling that case has scheduled for October his hearing on the church’s motion for summary judgment. DeCrescenzo, in the meantime, is poring over 18,000 pages of evidence that the church turned over to her after losing an appeal to the California Supreme Court, and also failing to get an emergency stay from the U.S. Supreme Court.

Although the chances that the U.S. Supremes will, on September 30, accept the church’s petition for further consideration are reportedly fairly low, it’s possible that a writ could keep Laura from using the documents that she spent so long getting her hands on.

 
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NarcononFishingUK Scientology Official Punk’d For Narconon Information

For some time, we’ve heard that Narconon — Scientology’s drug rehab network — had given up on the United Kingdom, where it had previously operated at least one facility. But we hadn’t heard definitive information about that, at least until yesterday.

A clever Anon who goes by “Scambaiter” managed to get a lot of information out of a Scientology/Narconon official by posing as a potential client. He confirmed that not only was the facility in Hastings, Sussex closed, but that Narconon has no other facilities operating in the UK. Repeatedly, the official recommended the nearest rehab center in the Netherlands.

Other interesting information came out in this really clever e-mail operation run by Scambaiter.

 
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The Rock-Slamming Recruitment Video Scientology Really Needs

Why did no one notice this mad parody video a year ago when it was first posted to the Internet? Fun stuff.

 

 
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The Scott Campbell Story Continues

Another great episode in Karen de la Carriere’s series about Scott Campbell, with J. Swift and Angry Gay Pope…

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 27, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Eivol Ekdal

    A Scrumptious Sample Of Saturday Smerch – Cheers Tony!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Bonnie Woods:
    So the ex-scientologist was sharing her experiences and offering help and was attacked by scientology for that.
    Sounds familiar. As in middle fucking ages. Good to know the pseudo-religious goons failed miserably.

    Luis Garcia and Laura DeCrescenzo:
    Time will tell. Glad it’s all still on the radar.

    Will watch the vids before the farther comment.

  • Patty Moher

    Dearest Scambaiter. Thanks so much for that awesome troll! I love that you exposed Narconon’s scam so deliciously. You’re the best.

  • Patty Moher

    Pardon the interruption: Attention John P. Please contact me ppieniadz@gmail.com

    • pronoia

      Patty. For your own well being and so that African missionaries don’t harvest your email address and start to send hundreds of business offers, please, when posting your address on the Internet, do as follows: ppieniadz at gmail dot com. You can go into your original comment and change or delete if you’d like. ;-).

      • Patty Moher

        Thanks

  • BosonStark

    “Slip up the bridge like a greased weasel…” Loved it.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Go all the way across the bridge and several times over..

    • FLUNK_101

      GREAT. VIDEO.

      “Man overboard. It’s hilarious! Chain up Grandma!”

      This is hilarious. This is a hip video about Scientology, with a hip sense of humor.

      It made me laugh many times … I needed that!!!

      BTW, back in the 70’s, a Scientologist friend of mine wanted to name his band “Rock Slam.”
      He was advised against it.
      Rock slam is the violent needle motion on the e meter which supposedly reveals an evil intention.

      • sugarplumfairy

        “Rock slam is the violent needle motion on the e meter which supposedly reveals an evil intention..”

        Or a hiccough.. Or a charly horse.. Or a stomach growl.. Or an itchy butt..

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          A charley horse IS evil intention!
          EVIL I tells ya!

          • sugarplumfairy

            Vitamin B complex will resolve those charly horses.. much more effective and a heck of a lot cheaper than a sec check..

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I love free medical advice.
              Thanks!
              It also is great for a hangover!

            • sugarplumfairy

              Thanks! I love free medical advice, too!

    • Observer

      That was a brilliant line, though “fleeced weasel”, while less picturesque, is probably more accurate.

  • Andrew Robertson

    Great to see the Bonnie and Richard Woods story detailed again.

    Scientology certainly knows how to make friends and influence people!

    And Donna Fiore is now an ESMB contributor, demonstrating the traditional Brooklyn extended family adage:

    “Blood is thicker than Theta”

    Andrew

    • pronoia

      Wow! That is great. It must’ve been so hard for her and Leah’s father all those years as non-scientologists. Wanting to speak about their concerns to her and to other people yet once again — like so many others — muzzled by their fear of being disconnected from their loved ones.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I love that Donna is posting.
      The fact that Leah’s family is interacting with all of us on this side of the fence must really be fucking with them!
      And the silly (and really lame) attack on SP’s-R-US is a hilarious reminder of how shitty their “confront” really is.

  • Graham

    Scambaiter, that’s a classic.

    “I was not aware of the incidents in Arrowhead…. As someone who is encouraging people to start the Narconon program, it is not news that anyone would readily pass on to me” Wow, what an admission! And he seems quite happy with that. How about “As someone who is encouraging people to start the Narconon program I really should have been informed of this and am spitting feathers that I’ve only now heard about it via a third party”? Instead there’s a placid acceptance that, naturally, bad news would not be passed on if it got in the way of recruiting.

  • baddog5623

    Regarding Mr Fish, He has no idea about deaths Etc but he does his research on Wikipedia which covers those very deaths. What a tool

    “I know that the Wikipedia website was updated within hours of the centre closing. It was updated by the very people who had been working for years to close the centre down, and the indication was that it was all part of a continued drive to discredit Narconon and publish its failings. You will notice that the Wikipedia site on Narconon is authored in a tone which is not supportive of Narconon.”

    • RMycroft

      The tone is fairly neutral. What he doesn’t like are the reported facts supported by WP:Reliable Sources, unlike the Narconon promo pages.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Tag the body router.. What a great idea.. I’m thinking this might still be do-able.. I’m thinking this might be something the fairy could do.. But do the orgs still even use body routers? The last time I drove by the Philly org, it was dead quiet.. Looked like an older lady inside, but no one outside at all.. How about New York? I know 13 years ago the body routers were abounding.. has any one noticed lately?

    • Interested

      Believe it or not I live near Wimbledon in London U.K and lo and behold there they were attempting to pull in punters…..

      • sugarplumfairy

        Good to know.. I’m going to have to check out NYC..

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        When does the Andy statue go up?

        • Interested

          Sorry not this week….:-)))

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      There are still teams that roam Hollywood and Highland in Los Angeles, but they may just be PCs doing a drill. As it is, H&H is such a wacky scene that two tools with a clipboard are hardly noticeable.

  • Xique

    “Tag the Body Router”, I love it! If only I would have been “tagged” back when I was a ( hate to admit it) body router, it might have saved me. Great Story Jon.
    Scott’s Sea org experience is beyond dramatic, it’s truly a horror story. Keep up the great work Karen, J Swift, AGP.
    All the best to the Garcias and to Laura D in their fight, for their rights!
    Andre Perkowski’s Groovy Sea Org Recruitment Film, is too much for words. Thanks Tony for posting it.

  • baddog5623

    Mr. Fish says he is not a Scientology?? Cleary not has his
    typo shows he has not taken the communication course.

    But then again something smells fishy

    Words he used:

    black PR.
    attacking Scientology, and unfortunately Narconon.
    false data.
    attacked by attackers of Scientology.
    resultant doubts
    deep seated hatred for some of Scientology
    collateral damage of their attack on Scientology
    criminal element spying on, and sabotaging Narconon.
    damaging and sustained campaign of attack
    take the plunge
    each dynamic
    forward in present day. (TIME)
    write your overts and withholds
    burden of transgressions

    Anyone else
    think Mr’ Fish smells like a bowl of Clam Chowder?

    • baddog5623

      :You don’t needto apologise to be about insulting any belief system I have – like I said, I am
      not a Scientologist”. (LOL, just stop questioning Naconon and Scientology
      LOL—-)

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        I’m not racist, I hate everyone equally 😉

      • Sherbet

        “I’m not an alien! I’m going to ram my ovipositor down your throat and lay my eggs in your chest, but I’m not an alien!”

        (That reference is for you, Observer.)

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      I think he knows the lingo, like a lot of us do here, and I think he used it to make them feel more comfortable with him. Which, clearly, worked.

      • Sidney18511

        I think you are a little confused on the above post. Mr. Fish who represents NN and says he is NOT a Scientologest USED THOSE WORDS AND TERMS.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I see that now. Thanks for leaping down mah throat there. See above coffee comment. I don’t sleep much and sometimes get slightly confused with it.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Now, now. It is early and we are all a little groggy from a night of debauchery and criminal suppression.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Now that you mention it, I too feel like some tool!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlC7oG_2W4

          • Sidney18511

            Oh UnitG, I’m so sorry that you took my clarification the wrong way! There was no toolness intended. Friends now? Please.

            I’m also a walking zombie that can’t sleep myself. I’m a 57 year old woman and I can’t remember the last time I slept through the night, so I feel ya there buddy, friend, pal, fellow bunkeret.

            So sorry.

        • Once_Born

          Amazon reviews of Scientology-related books commonly begin “I am not a Scientologist”, then go on to give the game away not only by their use of in-words but also their peculiar and distinctive {grammar }.

          Comparatively, the Narconon guy was litereate. Deluded, but literate.

    • Interested

      Oh yes ( to be said with the same intonation as the 1960something video where LRH is asked if he is mad…)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      His text reeked of Scientology-speak.

    • Ciru

      Also “restimulating” and “sending money uplines”. He started off sounding human but as the conversation went on, he couldn’t help himself from using more clam-talk.

  • pronoia

    After laughing at the Bath Salts scam bait and the Sea Org recruitment spoof, I watched Sott Campbell’s most recent video and I literally feel nauseated. Just when you think that things can’t get any worse for this guy and that this will be the moment he is able to get away for good, something unimaginable seems to happen to him. Kept imprisoned in a cabin in the middle of the desert? Tied and duck taped up because he wanted to get away?

    As hard as these are to watch, I thing that they are some of the most powerful (along with the Astra Woodcraft ones) stories of the unimaginable ordeal that people are forced to endure just to leave scientolgy. When you hear a story like this it is not hard to understand why a lot do sea org members must feel that they don’t have it in them to get through the “exit process” and so decide that they must make zither best of whatever passes for a life inside scientzology.

  • baddog5623

    “Again, I am not able to give you details on what happened in Canada”

    THEN DOES!

    “What you read in Wikipeida is the end result of this incredibly messy, damaging and sustained
    campaign of attack, and of course you are not going to read the whole story, because if you did it would be clear that there was always an intention to close down Narconon, and that the reason why they were closed down was because of this campaign against them; not because Narconon as an organisation have a treatment modality which is unsafe.”

    And does it again!

    “When you told me about the incidents at Arrowhead I did my own research and I already came across the references you mentioned. I cannot comment on this situation. I just don’t know what the circumstances were.”

    JUST A LITTLE LATER

    “As I intimated yesterday, surely there is only so much a treatment centre can do to control the presence of drugs in their facility, and if people are intent on getting them into a treatment centre then they will. It happens in prisons, so you can surely expect it to happen in treatment centres – without there being cause for them to be accused of neglect!”

    “I think that what has happened at Arrowhead (BUT YOU JUST SAID YOU DON”T KNOW???) is very common to the treatment field, and ever more prevalent in today’s culture of the abuse of prescription” drugs. An investigation has been called and no conclusions have been drawn.

    And again:

    You (((don’t need to apologise to be about insulting any belief system I have))) – like I
    said, I am not a Scientologist.

    What I do believe is that Narconon is worthwhile if you are drug addict because it will help you. Its very simple and (((I ask you to respect that belief))).

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    OK. Had to take a break after “thousands of hours of Ron blasted into your brain”.
    That Sea Org recruitment film was GREAAA88888888888888888.
    Obviously I am going to need more coffee to continue………….

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Bury, it was more OTVIIIisGrrr8! And I like that coffee idea 😀

  • baddog5623

    SO NOW A GUY WHO SAYS HE DOES NOT WORK FOR NARCONON HAS THE DOCTORS NUMBER BUT WONT GIVE IT OUT AND IS PLAYING DOCTOR HIMSELF BY ASKING MR SALT FOR HIS MED INFO? PRIVACY LAWS???

    !did not pass on any details of the doctor that was used, because he has requested that I do not give his contact details out for any reason, as he is a very busy man. I apologise for not addressing this in my last email.
    If you want to get some advice on the medication you are on, please tell me what kind of medication it is, and I will find out if it would be ok for you to take it on the program. It may well be the case that you do not need to swap medications. In any case, you would need to adhere to the rules and advice you get from the staff and doctor (THAT YOU CANT SPEAK TO) working with the centre you are placed in, and this would render the opinions of an Engllsh doctor somewhat redundant.

  • Mark

    “Declaring 25 high street businesses (including law firm Mason and Beer, still practising) Suppressive was not one of Hubbard’s better fits of pique.”

    Ho ho! telling phrase, Jon. The ignorant fool didn’t realise that some British small-town Chambers of Commerce, Trader’s Associations, et hoc genus omni, have generations of experience in exacting revenge on uppity newcomers who step out of line. Not murderous like the Mafia or the Camorra or the ‘Ndrangheta, maybe, but almost as devastating – in a polite and civilised way, of course.

    Mr. Fish must have very interesting bath-times if he uses MDPV as bath-salts.
    Wikipedia: “MDPV remained an obscure stimulant until around 2004 when it was reportedly sold as a designer drug. It is also known as Cloud 9, MDPK, MTV, Magic, Maddie, Black Rob, Super Coke, PV, Peeve and demon dust.”

    One thing noticeable in the Groovy Sea Org film is the way Druggard’s head wobbles in the close-ups. Pinks or greys? DTs? Hordes of body-thetans? Add this to the oddly waggling arm in the colour film of him lecturing at Saint Hill, and the tics look like symptoms of something congenital to this observer.

    Thank-you for the latest instalment in Scott and Karry’s story, Karen and AGP – was beginning to think you were going to prolong the suspense forever. Scott looked really angry at being tied up – before that life-enhancing twinkle came back into his eyes.

  • Nevermore

    Can’t help but feel sorry for the poor bastards in the Sea Org vid – some of them look out on their feet, and like they’ve not seen food, soap or a shower in a very long time. El Loon looks to me like he has the beginnings of Parkinsons in some parts of it. Or is tht his tertiary syphilis starting to show??

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I noticed that little bit of palsy too! I was thinking the same thing.

      • Nevermore

        I’d still like to beat his smirking face in with a brick, mind you. No change there. Maybe save the brick and use it on Tom Big Being.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yeah, ditto. You would just have to aim better!

          • Nevermore

            Have to wear my reading glasses, for such small, close up work! 😉

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Or get a bigger brick!

            • Captain Howdy

              Nix on the brick.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oh hell, the old fat bastard is dead already.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Ah yes. The ol’ foam 16T movie props. Those things are great at cartoon theme parties because they look so real, but could never be used to harm anyone or anything because they are foam 😉

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s from Monty Python.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I know dat 😉 I’m watching Holy Grail as we speak 😀

            • FistOfXenu

              …what do you get?
              Another day older and deeper in debt.
              St Peter doncha call me cause I can’t go
              I owe my soul to company store.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          You are, OF COURSE, speaking metaphorically, as no one here would dream of advocating actual violence against anyone.

          • Nevermore

            Yes, it’s a dream, as opposed to an ambition!

      • sugarplumfairy

        Did we mention he’s a master mariner and a strict disciplinarian? Man overboard! It’s hilarious.. Chain up grandma.. Blindfold her, tie her legs and hands together.. And splash down! She’s immersed in the icy Atlantic..

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yeah. That video was a goldmine.
          They did good!

          Needs wide disem….

          • Captain Howdy

            You should check out the other vids by the same guy “Andre Perkowski”. They’re wonderfully absurd.

            “Reading Rainbow: Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs”

            http://vimeo.com/44846146

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              LOl…and it isn’t even over yet. this is great

    • sugarplumfairy

      And some look reeeeeeeally young..

    • Captain Howdy

      They look like they’ve been held prisoner by the Taliban for at least a year. I wonder how Mike, Marty and some of the indies that comment around here explain away this glorious example of Hubbard’s malevolence.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    These Scott Campbell videos enrage the fuck out of me.
    Karen, J. and Angry Gay Pope….
    These things really show the depths of evil in that organization.

    In all honestly, I do not know how that guy survived all they put him through.
    He is one tough MF.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I know.. I’m so glad Scott is talking.. Just when you think his story is as bad as it can be, it gets worse..

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I am definitely waiting for the happy ending!
        Cuz this is killer!!!

  • baddog5623

    OK THIS NARCONON THING IS PURE GOLD! I love it, best thing I have read in years! Again again! Mooore Lulz!

  • Graham

    Did someone say that Elwrong had a facial disfigurement (Some kind of boil on the forehead) which got airbrushed out of photos? If so, does this explain why he’s always wearing his fake admiral’s cap in videos?

    • Robert Eckert

      That was later in his life that the boil got out of hand. By that time he wasn’t seen in public at all.

      • Graham

        “That was later in his life that the boil got out of hand”.

        Sounds a bit like a physical manifestation of a giant body thetan…

        • 0tessa

          This one was immune to auditing.

        • Captain Howdy

          Hubbard had an even bigger boil that was rarely see. In fact, this type of boil is endemic among “magical thinkers”.

          It’s commonly known as “boil on the ass of progress”

        • RMycroft

          He had to get it removed because the boil was rejecting him.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Ha! The boil thought HE was the body thetan. I’m imagining a skit where we see the boil getting auditing, saying things like “I’m not sure, but I just always have this feeling of a heavy weight on my shoulders. No matter what I do, it’s there.”

            • RMycroft

              “Doc, I’ve got this enormous pustule on my butt! You’ve got to help me!”

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, that’s what the pustule said about LRH.

    • Sherbet

      “They say” it was a sebaceous cyst, a simple enough thing to deal with if one would go to a real doctor to have it excised.

      • Mark

        But courageous Commodore Ron was scared sh*tless of doctors.

        And a ‘sebaceous cyst’ is a whitehead – bleugh!

        • Sherbet

          And “the tech” is supposed to heal bodily ills.

        • Sherbet

          Not really. Google it, and then say “bleugh!” But, still, a dermatologist would make quick work of the thing.

          • Mark

            Bleugh and groo. Wehether sebaceous or keratinaceous, I bet it started out as a horrid spot on his greasy bonce!

            • Sherbet

              Nah, it’s all his brainpower trying to force its way out of his cranium.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              The cyst wouldn’t have been that big!

            • Sherbet

              OK, he had One Rational Thought, and it was trying to escape the rest of the insanity in that head.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Wouldn’t you?

            • Mark

              Got a new name for the old bastard: Custard-Head.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Well, I know what I am NOT getting for a treat later today. Nasty!

            • Mark

              Creme Anglaise?

            • Sherbet

              Blech! Mark! The Bunker doesn’t have many boundaries, but you just might have crossed one.

            • Mark

              Sorry! I really wasn’t trying to be disgusting.

              ‘Creme Anglaise’ is what the French jealously call a proper English baked custard, made with eggs, cream, vanilla-pods (NOT extract) and butter. Anything so indulgently delicious could hardly be less reminiscent of things made with custard-powder – or LRH.

              (P.S. The French have never forgiven us for inventing Yorkshire pudding, either!)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              You’re an SP Mister! A Sweets Pleasure-killer.

            • Mark
            • Artoo45

              Hey! I’m eatin’ heah . . .

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              In that case, it would have been concave, sucking INTO his stupid head.

      • John P.

        The last time Hubbard’s golf ball-sized cyst was discussed, I did some research to figure out how hard it is to remove something that size. I found a YouTube video that showed a procedure to remove a similar-sized cyst from the top of someone’s head. Elapsed time, under local anesthesia, is less than 10 minutes. And in this video, the surgeon spends more time explaining what he’s doing than actually doing it. What hurts the most is the 22 gauge (very small) needle pushing Lidocaine at the site; you will hardly feel the actual procedure itself. Superglue the incision closed and you’re done.

        Even if you’re a bit squeamish, this isn’t too terribly tough to watch. Note: when I was a junior capitalist, long before I made the big time at Global Capitalism HQ, I got tasked with spending a lot of time in operating rooms looking at how various medical devices were used so I could direct our investments in surgical devices. Operations on medical shows like Gray’s Anatomy, ER, and all the rest are much gorier than they are in real life. Most operations in real life are a couple guys standing around a four-inch square hole in a blue sterile drape. The stuff inside the incision site is usually white with occasional capillaries. Surgeons almost never hit a vessel that spurts blood because they clamp those before they cut ’em and then use the Bovie electrocauterizer to stanch bleeding immediately.

        So Hubbard spent years looking like a homeless guy instead of spending less than ten minutes getting this taken care of, with less pain than a skinned knee. Power over MEST, indeed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInTs6WI4Ek

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Ok, warning: Mean girl statement ahead…

      “Did someone say that Elwrong had a facial disfigurement”

      Um, yes….and he had a cyst too.

  • Sherbet

    What a delicious Saturday morning’s worth of laughs. The narconon scam is priceless. Poor ol’ Mr. Fish, writing pages and pages of fiction to try to reel in “B. Salt.” I wonder what his motivation was — a genuine wish to help the unfortunate, addicted Mr. Salt? No…a big, fat commission.

  • Sherbet

    See Org recruitment film is funny as hell!

  • Mark

    May have solved the mystery of Slubbard’s strange palsy (head-wobble in the Groovy Sea Org video). Bartholomew Salt had the answer, strangely.

    Picture the scene: Montana, 1913 or thereabouts. Bathtime for Baby LRon:

  • Observer

    100% off-topic but I wanted to let the Bunker Southern SP Society know that I got the trophy, and I love it! I don’t have much to bring to this fight except snark and shoops, and it genuinely makes me happy that my shoops can boost morale even a little. GROUP HUG!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      YIPEE! Group Hug to our Queen shooper!

      Edit: BTW, do you ever go to WWP? That Wonder Woman Leah shoop of yours I put over there has been getting lots of likes. I made sure you were credited for the awesomeness.

    • Missionary Kid

      Obs, you bring J&D to a new level every time you post one of your shoops.

      Those shoops are a huge contribution!! When you step away from the bunker, we understand, but when you come back…. WOW!

      I’m sure that my hug will be joined by many more. *HUG!!!-

      • Interested

        Yes… Heartfelt … When you read such heartache you need to laugh otherwise you end up just crying. It does not detract from the seriousness it just helps swallow the pill.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Yes. And a bitter pill it is.

    • Espiando

      You combine the snark of a true Anon with the shoop skills that I’d give my left nut to have. All I had to say was that The Dark Lord Chuckles The Silly Piggy reminded me of Norma Desmond, and you chose the perfect scene and created a seamless shoop of masterful quality. You deserve one of those ludicrous Diamond Patron Meritorious things that the cult gives out. At least you can pawn one of those for enough cash to buy CS7 when it comes out.

      • Observer

        Xenu knows I need it … I’m using Photoshop 8, circa 2003. It still gets the job done though!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Try a program called Gimp Obs, it’s very much like Photoshop, and very very free 😉

      • Observer

        For the new Bunkerites who may not have seen it

        • FLUNK_101

          That’s perfect … and it’s so seamless … but I don’t know what movie …

          • Robert Eckert

            “Sunset Boulevard”

            • FLUNK_101

              Thx.

            • Robert Eckert

              Here’s the specific clip:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUJpec6Bdc

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              Priceless link! Thankyou.

              If you knew all the private comments Hubbard has written, the one liner from this scene, reminds me of Hubbard’s one liner megalomania level thoughts.

              Hubbard’s one line megalomania thoughts ought be put in a single chapter, in the Hubbard bio.

              My favorite, is he considered himself a “civilization changer”. He was wise enough, though, to realize that this world would never recognize him as such, he lamented. Showing how legitimate is the label of megalomaniac to be attached to L. Ron Hubbard.

              I mean his choosing and settling on calling himself, “L. Ron Hubbard” and even the title of the subject, “Scientology” both smack and broadcast the in your face megalomania of Hubbard.

              Alas, the Hubbard name being associated “earlier similar” style with “Mother Hubbard”, I’m sure gave our Hubbard a permanent annoying PR wordage and losing psychological image battle all his life.

            • GlibWog

              Yep.. Capital Letter larger type ASSHOLE

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          One of my Favs or yours, Obs.

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          One of our favorites as it is so very true. And may we in RTC post our response to Observer:

          http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/ScientologyMeme_zps5fc6f147.png

          • Observer

            I no do Scientology out of the goodness of my heart because as I am quite tall I would give COB yet another engram, or at the least restim him something fierce. It’s all his mother’s fault, you know.

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              ?

              COB is of normal height and weight for a Marcab so we don’t really understand your point.

            • Observer

              I thought there was something reptilian about him!

            • ThetaBara

              This one is a personal fucking favorite of mine!

            • Jon Hendry

              COB’s probably short because of all the niacin.

            • Exterrier

              Oh my Gawd, that really gets as up front and personal as anything ever could!! Amazing concept and execution. I will personally pay a bounty fee to anyone who can get a poster made of this that he sees one day. Lets collect a fund. Maybe a giant mural of this on or the “Sunset Boulevard one” of Tommy and lil Dave, painted bigger than life on a wall on Hollywood Boulevard opposite Authors Services.
              Lets start an Ideal Mural Project fund!!!! I will start hard reg ing Bunkerites to contribute.

        • Bradley Greenwood

          That is AWESOME… someone has a very sophisticated sense humor! I’m ready for my close-up, Mr. Hubbard!

        • cicely neville

          GENIUS.^^^

        • GlibWog

          This is my favorite Observer.. Everything about it.. Just everything is perfect. Congrats for your Trophy. You certainly deserve it. So much joy you bring to the bunker! Thank you from this Lurker/newbie xoxoxo

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      And well-deserved may I say, congratulations! Keep them coming Obs we love your wickedly creative talents.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Was hoping you’d snap a pic. Well, as I told you, sorry about the text message goof. Either the trophy guy was PTS or me. But I was thrilled that it was actually pretty solid. I expected a thin tin thing. Also, I love in your picture you look so intense. Now we just need you to come to Florida so we can make you an honorary member! The trophy, as note said, was for shoops that All of us here at the Bunk appreciate, especially in these last months when its hard to read the hearbreakers without the relief of seeing one of your brilliant shoops. And you Have been working it overtime in the month of Julicious!

      • Observer

        It’s been my pleasure, believe me. Haha!

        If I look intense it’s because I was getting really irritated trying to wrangle the trophy (which is definitely more solid than it looks) with one hand, my phone with the other, get the whole trophy in the photo and make sure enough of my face was covered to stymie any ID attempts by clams. It’s even harder than it sounds. lol

        • Robert Eckert

          But you’re showing your whole face in the avatar picture!

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          Awards?

          Did someone mention awards?

          We want you to know that Wog President Brent Obama just awarded COB RTC Mr. David Miscavige with a medal FOR SAVING THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          http://otviiisgrrr8.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cob-medal-3.png

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Oh and we in the Church of Scientology have just made clear our policy on lying:
            http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/07/27/the-church-of-scientology-and-our-policy-on-lying/

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Hmmmmm. Looks like COB has put on some weight in that picture. Has he been eating BOTH of his meal choices lately?

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              COB has not been pushing away from the table lately. He had some plastic surgery done on his face and whatever meds they gave him make him hungry. That and his back bothers him all the time.

          • i-Betty

            It’s good to see Tommo wasn’t left out of this important occasion!

            OT8, how do you in RTC address Mr Cruise, if you don’t mind me asking? Does he have a special title? An affectionate nickname? Does he encourage informality?

            What are the consequences if you slip up and call him by an unauthorised name?

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Forms of address for Mr. Cruise are covered in SO Fleet Orders, TC.1.211.9a:

              1. When attired in uniform K (civilian clothing), Mr. Cruise is addressed as “Mr. Cruise” or “Sir.”

              1A. Except for COB, no Scientologist may make eye contact with Mr. Cruise.

              1B. Except for COB, under no circumstances may any Scientologist attempt to initiate 2WC (two-way comm) with Mr. Cruise.

              1C. Persons attempting 2WC with Mr. Cruise will be immediately pounced upon and struck by COB. Not might be, but will be. You have been warned: Don’t ever let COB catch you talking to Tom Cruise! Got it?

              2. When attired in his Sea Org uniform. Mr. Cruise is addressed as “Admiral Cruise” or “Sir.”

            • i-Betty

              Thank you so much for this important insight. 😀

            • Zenster

              in addition, proper address for LRH is:
              Flim Flam Man
              Blubbard
              The Fat Fuck
              Looney Tunes
              Pants Crapper
              Captain Bullshit

          • tetloj

            TC in his best performance ever.

      • FLUNK_101

        “Also, I love in your picture you look so intense.”

        Me three!!!

        It was Frank Zappa who said “you are what you iz,” and Observer, you iz awesome !

      • i-Betty

        It’s lovely to acknowledge someone who adds to your life. You’re so kind 🙂

        And you’re great, too, THDNE!

      • DeElizabethan

        Gosh, that trophy is Really Nice! Well deserved too!

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      That. Is. BRILLIANT 😀

    • Sherbet

      I think you might be able to pluck off the stars and use them for ninja throwing weapons. You never know when you might need them. Brava to you, and a hearty Huzzah! to the Bunker Southern SP Society.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        No! That’d ruin the trophy Sherb. Obs, there are 300 Robot Ninja Monkeys with all-new Throwing Star flinger and Star Hopper for up to 1,000 extra ninja stars each monkey en route to you as we speak 😉 programmed to defend you till their death while you continue to shoop the hell out of ’em 😉 Just like the 300 Sartans, only robot ninja monkeys. As viscous as Spartans, though, especially when provoked by anyone wielding an E meter trying to sec check you 😉

        • Sherbet

          That’s a much better idea, Unit G. Observer needs protection, so she can continue her life’s work, which is exemplary J&D.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Not a problem at all my friend 😉

    • Captain Howdy

      “Never in the field of shoop endeavor have so many owed so much to one groovy chick”

    • Spackle Motion

      OK, I obviously missed the boat here…..which great bunkerite gave you that lovely thing?

      You just need to hold it over your head a-la Scientology style and have a picture taken. You can wear an Anon mask….

      • Observer

        It’s from the Bunker Southern SP Society, currently comprising Bury, THDNE and Dee.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          And L Wrong Hubturd…..

          • Observer

            I had no idea … thank you, L. Wrong!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Our expansion is upright and verticle!!!

            • Observer

              You’ve grown by 25% in the last month. Scientology must be green with envy!

            • Bradley Greenwood

              Braggart!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              You think this is bad…You should see me in Person!!!

              I also have some excellent fish stories!

            • GlibWog

              hahahhahahah You guys.. That was so nice of you! Kudos from the rest of us!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’m really just along for the ride, but I won’t pass up a THX for a good person.

    • Bradley Greenwood

      A ginger… I should have known! 😉 Feisty!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Rangers are hawt 😉 I have a very soft spot for them. Soul-less though they are 😛

        People say “Blondes have more fun,” I say, “You’ve never been with a redhead, have you?” 😉

        • Kim O’Brien

          OMG ..you are a ginger Aussie ?!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Careful Unit G, Kim’s been horny.

            • Kim O’Brien

              THAT was awesome 😉 true …i am looking to ravage the hell out of a mute guy who can rock a sarong but everyone knows that gingers do not have souls and i lived in Aussie just long enough to know that the Kiwi men are nicer and WAY better in bed . A dream has been killed for me today . THIS is why we can’t have nice things ! ( LOL )

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Ummmmm…….. I haven’t heard that one about Kiwis being nicer, although they are a great bunch of people. I actually wish I lived there sometimes instead of where I am. Who wouldn’t want to live in The Shire 😉

              And, on the other thing, I’ve never had any complaints about performance 😉

            • cicely neville

              Second that about Kiwis. Wow!

            • Kim O’Brien

              i know right ???!! So hot ( like South African’s ) and so nice ( like Canadians ) …perfect combo. Heavy sigh …

            • Robert Eckert

              As opposed to Aussies, who are hot like Canadians and nice like South Africans?

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            No Kim, redheads are my one known weakness 😉 espescially the ones with freckles and green eyes 😛

            • Kim O’Brien

              i am blonde with a touch of grey , green eyes , half irish half sicilian ,140 pounds , 5’7, raging liberal and how do you look in a sarong on Manly beach ? ( by any chance is there something wrong with your voice box ? LOL )

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              lol kim, no you don’t want to know me, i’m a mutant midget with 6 arms that end in claws and what seems to be a bottle top opener and a mechanical voicebox. not worth your time im sorry. im just good for making people laugh, least I thought I was.

              I think I’ll just keep lurking from now on

            • Kim O’Brien

              😉

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              But then again, I’ve never really been any good at taking my own advice, either 😉

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I have a pretty thick skin, and I don’t think Cap or 1sub meant any harm by challenging me at all, but I don’t like having an opinion rammed down my throat and being told to agree with it. I didn’t get up them for their viewpoints at all, did I?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Part Irish huh. Now I’m intrigued 😉

      • Observer

        It’s the lighting. My hair is light brown and gray. Hope you’re not too disappointed. Ha!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          The illusion is still worth it 😉

          • Bradley Greenwood

            Unit speaks for me as well.

            • GlibWog

              OMG Bradley I thought you said ” His Unit speaks well for me as well.. ” hahaha

            • Bradley Greenwood

              It might as well… mine has had nothing to say for quite some time…

            • GlibWog

              O.M.G. hahahha I can’t top that!

              Bawwwwwwwhahahha after I wrote that I was thinking well if it’s not sayin anything that means it’s NOT doin anything .. So I CAN”T TOP it! ( Not as a baby .. Me.. OMG this is getting worse the more I type. hahahha

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              This Unit only speaks for himself, and on occasion, for those that cannot for themselves. 😉

            • GlibWog

              Unit.. hahahah..

        • Interested

          I am new here but from what I ve seen you should get the large plate with diamonds.. “You are the best anti scientologist I know”

          • Observer

            The trophy is far more than I expected. The gold plate with diamonds belongs to the exes who are speaking out, the Old Guard, and the longtime critics. Those people are courageous and have suffered great loss. The worst that happens to me is my butt gets sore from sitting in the shooping chair. But I appreciate the sentiment. 🙂

            • GlibWog

              Observer.. When I was just lurking I would run over here just for your shoops.. And if you don’t have the time just Post an Old one.
              They are all classics. You continue to bring the ridiculousness of this stupid evil cult out with your Artistic expression. You are just such a Breath of Fresh air around here when just tragedy and fuckin evil exists within this dangerous cult.

            • cicely neville

              ^^^^^^^ That.

        • Bradley Greenwood

          Disappointed? Yeah right… take me prisoner 😉

    • i-Betty

      Hooray! You go, Obs! You’re far and away one the best commentators at the Bunker, and were one of the first people to welcome me here.

      Personally I think you’re wonderful 🙂

    • aquaclara

      Whoooop, whoop! Cheers and hugs to you for your Meritorious Award of Delightful Outstanding Shoopiness! Thank you for all the grins and giggles that help us get through the tough stuff here every day!

      Oh, and I love the Southern SP Society. You’ll rock!

    • Casabeca

      I appreciate your shoops so much. Just imagine all the people thinking good thoughts about you every day! Blessings upon you, Observer!

    • TheLurkingHorror

      Well deserved! Congratulations. 🙂

    • cicely neville

      Lovely! And well deserved. Now how about a medal the size of a dinner plate, in gold and diamonds? I think you deserve at least that –

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Scientology OT and Pharmaceutical billionaire Bob Duggan and his wife Trish got a trophy from COB. Not that this matters here at this hater blog where you people flow admiration to Observer as if she were the Queen of Sheba. COB is not jealous or anything, but still he did save the world.

        http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/BOBDUGGAN_zps11437db8.jpg

        • Observer

          Nothing I have done can compare to your masterful excision of Ninja SP Katie Holmes from the pic of TC and DM at the races or wherever they were.

          • Andrew Robertson

            I wonder if there is any truth to the persistent rumour that OTVIIIisGrrr8! and Observer are fraternal twins, separated at birth when a tired and busy nurse in the delivery room attached the wrong identification tags to them.

            Their equal skills at doctoring photographs is strong evidence that this rumour might be true.

            It would be a charming story indeed, if they finally discovered their true family relationship on the dark fringes of the Internet!

            Andrew

            • Observer

              That would be So. Cool.

        • Observer

          And if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion … perhaps COB might consider trophies of a design which is longer on the X axis than on the Y. As you can see, this trophy is very little, er, short of half COB’s height. Kind of embarrassing for a Big Being.

          • GlibWog

            Bawwwwwwwwwwwwhahahahha.. OMG Look at his hands compared to Duggan’s ..

        • cicely neville

          You are out-ethics, OT8. We pay endless attention to COB, ENDLESS. He gets looked at EVERY DAY by ALL OF US. Even though, in the Sheba department, Obs has him beat by a galaxy or two.

          Holy Xenu, I’ve got to stop looking at that thing before I go blind. Those things. In the picture. Now.

          • KJP in Portland

            I like you! Good stuff…

            • cicely neville

              Thank you, neighbor.
              How’s the weather in Portland? Hot as blazes here –

        • GlibWog

          Well.. Ain’t that Special.. puke

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Is that a trophy standing on a podium, or a podium sized trophy?

          Whatever it is, it’s still taller than COB 😀

          • cicely neville

            Bwahahaha

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I LOVE THIS pic! You have big Ol intense eyes. I love itl

    • q-bird

      sweet Observer – you are so cool.

    • lisacarolfremont

      Congratulations! Shoop on!

  • A forerunner to and very dear friend of the anti-Co$ protesters in England, David Bird, was instrumental in getting Bonnie Woods legal presentation from a huge law-firm. Other protesters had a hand in coming up with a winning strategy. The winning strategy is 1) be right. 2) Get the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology painted into a corner where OTIII is going to get written into the court record. 3) Collect award and copious apology 4) accept that the clams sign a legal undertaking to no longer make up lies about you.

    Simple, and with no confidentiality agreement / gag order attached.

    Read All About It in Bonnie’s book: http://www.amazon.com/Deceived-Womans-against-Church-Scientology/dp/1903905214

    Read the apology read out in court :http://www.escapeint.org/legal/apology.htm

    • Missionary Kid

      Thank you Jens. Apt.

      • RMycroft
        • Captain Howdy

          Great video.

          I remember reading about the Wood’s epic battle with the cult a few years ago. They are as much heroes and legends as any of the old guard anit-CofS notables. And Bonnie is the real life Good Fairy Godmother counterpoint to the Gwen Barnard Faux Fairy Godmother in wolf’s clothing..

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Bonnie, your ears must be burning, so I hope you stopped by the Bunk today for a peek. My eyes are leaking seeing this interview. That devilish laugh and twinkle in your eye is still there, just with whiter hair and a wee bit of a brit accent tagged on.

          While it makes no sense to me Now for anyone to enter scientology crazy town in today’s decade, Bonnie is the perfect picture of what it was like in the 60’s or 70’s. Bonnie was the very first person I met inside an org starting way back and we wound up back together several times in different decades and states and circumstances. I left about a year after her. I was overjoyed that she and her family made it out. Can’t find it at the moment, but I still have that postcard picture… funny because Beetle Vans (VW) were part of so many pictures I had from that era.

          Bonnie was a psych major in college when she got roped in, a Midwestern solid citizen with both feet on the ground, but a wry wit, a passion for the human condition, and the biggest bear hugs ever from such a tiny elf of a lady. If you read her story, which I hope many do, you will see that nothing much has changed other than all public and staff now have crazy sales quotas to wrestle with each week.

          Her story includes what I rave on about, the complicit, willful and heartless medical negligence, especially when it came to Sea Org members. Bonnie is lucky to have survived it, but she didn’t survive it without unthinkable pain. Her then brother in law died from diabetes complications many years, his last act on this earth begging his non sci father for more money. Decades of auditing, still desperate for more so he could be “exterior” all the time, a dream he had each day from his wheelchair. I believe her ex, Bob, is still at ASHO. Might as well be in prison. Yet another waste.

          Your kindness and compassion, Bonnie, was what got me in the door, not that personality test or a book or course. I was so distraught and weak that day, but it was Your caring that got me in and helped. I’ll never forget your shit eatin’ grin and question to me when I walked out of the course room after OT 3. That wicked laugh again. We were both pretty well deep into the Trauma symptoms stage by then. No surprise to me of your activism continuing on. You are one of the Original Roaring Moms, hah! Who would have Ever thought that 40 years later we would still be here, trying our darnest to warn others. Warmest wishes for continued bright future for all your family….Your Songbird, always.

          • FLUNK_101

            Excellent post, Hole.

            “Your kindness and compassion, Bonnie, was what got me in the door, not that personality test or a book or course”

            It was people like Bonnie who made the success of Scientology possible. I don’t mean this as a criticism, because they didn’t realize it at the time.

            Hubbard was as charming as a used car salesman. He could only get so far with his lies.

            But, that old bugger of a con artist had good people like Bonnie representing him and his philosophy!
            i think that’s a big part of how they accumulated so much money.
            It wasn’t just Scientology, but the inherent goodness from the good people it exploited.

            At least until the Internet exposed the con for all to see, and then the scam fell apart.

          • aquaclara

            Adding my thanks, Hole. There is so much here about Bonnie that I did not know. Wow.

          • MissCandle

            Hole, I don’t understand everything that you wrote/meant, but WOW, how emotional. I’m glad that you are both out, and feel even more sorrow, and pain, for those of your loved ones still in. All the best to you.

          • Casabeca

            What tender hearts you both reveal…making my eyes leak!

          • Interested

            How sad that such good people such as yourselves were duped and almost destroyed by this magick. You are to be praised for having got out completely. Bravo

        • Interested

          Not available on this platform …..

    • FLUNK_101

      Excellent stuff!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist
      • 1subgenius

        Thanks. Free/legal download.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          and I believe there’s still a donate page on her Escape website. She has helped hundreds, probably over a thousand now, in their successful escape of scientology, and their recovery.

    • Hartley Patterson

      The high point for me in court was Graeme Wilson’s Press Release, in which he explained that the Church had won the case.
      http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/apology.htm

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        They are so delusional.

      • Interested

        Come again!?!? What planet are the from … The reverse planet or the inner mirror planet or Alice in wonderland looking through the mirror planet !! Oh yes that one that’s why thy use it for the TR’s

      • Yeah, I always wanted to get sued by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology so they could settle and pay me compensation because I couldn’t afford to pay the penalty in case they win.
        DOH!

    • FistOfXenu

      Jens don’t forget the part after “be right” is “either get a good law firm to donate their services for free or get plenty of people to donate the cost of your lawyers”. Way a hear it and read it without that you won’t last long enough to do 2-4 and 1 won’t be worth a damn. How did Bonnie Woods cover legal fees?

      • Actually Bonnie and Richard did well legally without the pro bono aid. They were bankrupt, sure, but that’s a given.

        Seriously, Dave Bird made the National Council for Civil Liberties aka Liberty (English ACLU, if you like) promote the case to law firms who are in turn looking for worthy cases to represent pro bono.

        In chapter 10 of Bonnie’s book, as pointed to below. She describes it well.

        Dennis Erlich is another one who used pro-bono-tech to wipe the floor with the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology. It works, but it usually means being in a tough position (so as to achieve sufficient “worthyness”).

  • ze moo

    “Slip up the bridge like a greased weasel” The fake sea arrghhh recruitment video is hilarious.. It is obvious where they got their knowledge of weasels, greased or otherwise.

    I liked the lanyards some of the Ogres had, you use one when you has something you don’t want to lose while at sea or on a horse. Like a sword or pistol, you know, something that could save your life. The sea ogres probably had the ‘way to happiness’ attached to their lanyards. If they had whistles, they could call for help.

    • Observer

      I started laughing at the shot of the motley crew lined up on the deck, especially as the camera operator was walking down the line and you saw face, face, face, chest, face, face. That guy must have been at least 6’7″! And they all looked sooooo happy to be there.

      • ze moo

        I kept expecting to hear some Drill Instructor go to work on the ‘recruits’. The fake fire drill was funny too, yeah stand on the pile of wood next to the hold and pretend to spray a 10 pound extinguisher on a fire in the hold.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2M4ilVaAmI

    • Mark

      Maybe this was on the ends of their lanyards?

      • ze moo

        Thank you Dr Boker, your weasel grease saved my life. You can’t play catch the weasel without some grease.

      • MissCandle

        Is this not upside down? I ask because I know naught of SECRET HABITS.

        • Mark

          You may well be right. Miss C… and now I come to look more closely at the picture, Atlas looks like he might just have finished indulging in some SECRET HABITS behind those rocks…

          • MissCandle

            Agreed. That’s why I asked.

            • Mark

              You’ll have to ask the poster who invented it:
              http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/alternativemedicine/page6

              BTW, there really is a product called ‘Weasel Fat’:

            • MissCandle

              OMX, I am wondering why you are pointing me in this direction when I was about to tell you how much I like you.

            • Mark

              I’m going to shut up now before I get in any more trouble…

          • FistOfXenu

            You mean greasing his weasel? I agree with MissCandle, this ad’s confusing. Or circular or something.

            Maybe LRH and Jack Parsons used a lot of weasel grease when they “did magick”?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              But “stuck in the middle” is suddenly an earworm….

            • Mark

              In future I promise only to use genuine Victorian anti-depravity advertisements, or concoct my own. (Whoever devised this one got their paragraphs reversed).

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Mmmmmm. Greased weasel. *drools like Homer Simpson*

  • N. Graham

    Goodbye Mom! Hello Upstat! I will be auditing to Tone 40 in my dreams! What an exhilarating experience! Rock Slam! Floating Needle! And then into the icy Atlantic! They mention the number of SPs and Rock Slam! There’s SP No. 1 Scott Campbell complaining about $cios trying to end his life! As if he couldn’t just go down to the maternity ward and get a new body! Sheesh! Some people have nothing better to do than spread theta! Like I’m going to believe that the most ethical people on the planet don’t have a GOOD reason for their actions. They are clears, OTs, auditing level 12 people, how could we ever hope to understand what their motives are? It’s a good thing they are here or the Psychs would have overrun the planet decades ago. Oh, just thinking about it makes me crave a good touch assist.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      That’s a mighty festive avatar. Glad to see you have seen the light!

  • Yan117

    Does anyone in here with a facebook or twitter account know what’s happening with anonsparrow? I used to watch all of his videos on youtube and haven’t seen any new ones being put up since last year. I hope he’s doing well and that that orwelian monstrosity of a cult didn’t get to him in some very evil way.

    This place is awesome, informative and funny as hell!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Anon Sparrow actually posted on here a month or two ago. It was just one post (kind of a fly by). But he sounded just fine.

      • 1subgenius

        Someone did.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          True, I didn’t get DNA!

          • FistOfXenu

            I think we’re glad to hear it.

            All this surveilance in modern society is too much.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yes…with the good comes the bad….sighs…

              No wonder we drink FOX.
              Salute!

            • FistOfXenu

              Barkeep? Again please.

    • Spackle Motion

      He had some bad legal issues a few years ago brought on by the cult. From what I know, he’s just fine but he is living his life out of the spotlight. He contributed more than enough for one person and he deserves to move on, which is what I believe he’s doing.

      He is missed, but he paid his dues.

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    I just found this

    • Sherbet

      Perfect!

    • 1subgenius

      Bradley Manning.
      Ed Snowden.

      • Captain Howdy

        Julian Assange.

        • Robert Eckert

          Julian Assange created his own problems. My sympathy for him is sharply limited.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Have to agree there Robert.

          • Captain Howdy

            He created his own bogus rape charges? Have you read the police reports? They’re ludicrous. Two weeks after you have voluntary sex with some guy you “remember” the condom broke and you decide to charge the guy with rape? Thank god the CIA was there to help remind the poor girl(s) of this (only in sweden) “crime”.

            • RMycroft

              Oh he hasn’t been charged with anything. They just want to question him.

            • Captain Howdy

              If the U.S gets their hands on Assange he will be spending at least the next 20 years in a jail cell.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              That’s true, and the whole rape thing I am nearly *nearly* certain he is innocent of, but there is really something shifty about the guy

            • 1subgenius

              That’s not the issue.

            • Captain Howdy

              Exactly. “Oh, he’s an asshole..that’s worth at least 20 years in a federal pen”

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              No you guys are right about him not deserving to spend 20 in Guantanamo. I just have a gut feeling that the guy isn’t as kosher as some people would make him out to be is all. Let’s agree to disagree, shall we?

            • 1subgenius

              Let’s agree to agree that he doesn’t deserve 20 in G-town.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              That I can agree with. I do believe he needs some thinking time, not THAT long though, nor in G-Town

            • 1subgenius

              Couldn’t leave it alone?
              Not gonna debate whether prison is “thinking time” or whether he deserves any.
              We had consensus at he doesn’t deserve 20 in G.
              But nooooooo……………

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              And we still do have a consensus on that. But I don’t believe the guy is squeaky clean either.

            • 1subgenius

              (Psssst, your shit stinks too)
              But that wasn’t the issue, once again.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I knew that as well. Am painfully aware of it, in fact.

              Jesus Christ, am I not entitled to my opinion? I don’t trust the guy. Simple as that. Now back the fuck off.

            • 1subgenius

              Sure, but it has nothing to do with the issue, which was disclosing criminal behavior.

              Although, I also subscribe to the view that “people should get beat up for stating their beliefs” (They Might Be Giants)

            • Captain Howdy

              So it’s true for you?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              So does Assange’s, but the difference between he and I is, I know it.

            • 1subgenius

              Been inside his mind have we?

            • Captain Howdy

              He deserves a Medal of Freedom, and not the clam version, for even starting

              WikiLeaks. You do know about all the work they’ve done against the cult?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Yes, I’m aware of it Cap.

            • Robert Eckert

              His leakage was massive and indiscriminate. To take an example, he leaked documents about Chinese officials privately expressing to American diplomats their exasperation about North Korean antics, necessitating that they publicly deny having said these things– and privately, stop talking about them. If diplomats cannot trust that their communications will be kept confidential, they just won’t talk, and disputes that are not settled diplomatically are more likely to be settled by violence. It is too soon to tell whether what he has done results in more harm or more good, but he displayed an arrogance from the very start which his abusive behavior toward women is just a small part of.

            • Captain Howdy

              Deserves time for what crime?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Being involved in the theft of government documents. How’s that for a start? I know it’s no different to how some information gets out about Scamotology, but it’s a different kettle of fish when it’s highly classified government documents you’re talking about. Not some UFO cult’s crap that can give you pneumonia if you read it before you’re ready.

            • Captain Howdy

              I thought you were some Aussie living in the outback? What the fuck would you care if Assange or Snowden blew the whistle on the U.S or the U.K?

            • Robert Eckert

              The story has, you know, gotten worldwide coverage.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Because America isn’t the whole world, contrary to popular belief.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I said I live far enough away from any MAJOR CITIES to give a fuck about Scientology coming after me.

            • FistOfXenu

              1 question is whether the govt should be doing some things and expecting them to stay secret. Another 1 is since govts can make whistle blowing a crime how else can they be accountable without some body like Assange? And another 1 is when should a govt and its people be allowed privacy and secrecy and when shouldn’t they and who gets to choose?

              And then I want to ask why shouldn’t it be a 2 way street? Govts including my own insist they have a right to know all kinds of stuff about me I think is private and secret. They don’t want it because I’m a criminal. I’m not. They want it “just in case”. So why shouldn’t that go both ways? I want to know stuff they think is private and secret “just in case”. Like govt snoops like to say to us “if you got nothing to hide you got nothing to fear”

              If they let us have our privacy back they can have theirs back. They have to make the 1st move. They work for us we don’t work for them.

              Just an opinion. Won’t be the 1st time I got in trouble for an opinion but it’d be a shame.

              But I agree he can come across arrogant. And with some of the stuff he published I wish he’d decided to act better than a govt and not get down in the dirt with them.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              It’s a good point you make FOX. It’s very, very complicated, and not something that I think we’ll ever be able to un-ravel or even come close to understanding. Governments do the things they do for reasons that make sense to them, but not the majority of the people they supposedly represent.

              And that’s the last I’m saying on this shit.

            • Robert Eckert

              It looks like he is going to be stuck in that room for the rest of his life. More comfortable than Gitmo, I suppose.

            • ze moo

              Gitmo is reserved for terrorists from Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the Middle East. If tried, Assange will get a trial in a federal court in the US and serve any time in a US prison.

            • FistOfXenu

              Hang on. The official story is that he’s only wanted for the rape accusation in Sweden. Any body else see a problem here?

            • FistOfXenu

              And it won’t be for the rape charge. In fact I bet they’ll make that go away as soon as they get him on our soil.

            • Captain Howdy

              If he goes back to Sweden the rape charge gets dropped and the Swedes extradite him the U.S.

              He was labeled as “an enemy of the United States” in a leaked Pentagon memo, which means if they proscecute him as such he could go to Gitmo and face a military tribunal.

            • Robert Eckert

              Extraditing him from the UK would have been easier than extraditing him from Sweden, if the US was really interested in grabbing him.

            • 1subgenius

              Ve only vant to see your papers.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I’ve read a heck of a lot about it actually Cap, and the more I look into it, the murkier it gets to be honest…………

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Don’t get me wrong, I think the way he exposed everything he did was brilliant, but look deeper and there is just something that doesn’t add up about the guy…………..

            • Captain Howdy

              No doubt Assange is something of an asshole. The other wikileaks members have stated as such. But that doesn’t justify the U.S manufacturing bogus rape charges in Sweden in order to get him extradited to the U.S so they can put him on trial for treason and espionage so they can pay him back for making them and their corporate overlords look like the evil, lying hypocrites that they are.

            • Espiando

              The problem is that law enforcement in Sweden behaves like the US government’s favorite whore whenever they want something. We’ve seen it with Assange, and we’ve also seen it with the Pirate Bay guys. Swedish law enforcement is the exception that proves the rule about Sweden being a bunch of really cool guys. To cite the third example that proves a point, they treat Reefer Madness as 100% factual.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I’ll give you that one 😉 and a cookie. Cookies are good 😀

            • Robert Eckert

              Sweden has not handled the case well, but yammering about “the US manufacturing the charges” is pure tinfoil.

            • Captain Howdy

              Lurk moar. The truth is out there and it has nothing to do with conspiracy twaddle.

            • Robert Eckert

              The truth is certainly out there, not concealed in the least.

            • Rape is just about the most difficult crime to prove that there is. This is one of many reasons that it’s virtually never, EVER reported. Rapists are regularly let off because their victims were wearing short skirts or weren’t virgins. If the U.S. wanted to manufacture bogus charges against someone, they would not choose rape to do it.

            • Robert Eckert

              He should not be looking to bang groupies, particularly since he has a talent for alienating women.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              And groupies have a tendency to look for a quick buck wherever they can…………….

            • Captain Howdy

              Guess that applies to rock stars, movie stars, pro athletes also? No one famous should be having causal sex because the CIA might be lurking under their beds?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Someone like Julian Assange shouldn’t, no

            • FistOfXenu

              I agree with that. Starting up Wikileaks painted a target on his back. And his front. There are some things you have to know if you do them your life can’t be your own any more. I was surprised Para$citology didn’t fair game him for what he did.

            • Robert Eckert

              Those with political enemies should definitely know better. I have zero sympathy for Dominique Strauss Kahn or Anthony Weiner, likewise.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              And let’s not forget President Clinton…….

            • Robert Eckert

              Indeed. Whatever his other virtues, I will never quite forgive him for that stupidity.

            • 1subgenius

              What the fuck good is it to have groupies if you can’t bang them?
              But I will pass on your advice on how he should pursue his sex life to him for you.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Once more, Someone like Julian Assange shouldn’t, no.

              Now drop it.

            • 1subgenius

              I shall, thanks for the suggestion.
              Now its off to engage in vigoorous guiltless sex with one of my many ardent followers.
              Ta ta.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Like Hubtard did when he ditched his first wife? Or more like when he had all those young girls in short shorts and tank tops running around after him with an ashtray to catch his ciggie ash?

              Yeah, classy.

            • Captain Howdy

              Ya know I can’t help but feeling that you’ve been here before under a different nom de guerre. Your “sense” of “humor” and writing style seems very familar.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I’ve been lurking around here awhile yes, but never made a comment till about 3 or 4 days ago.

            • Captain Howdy

              Usually people who have been lurking and decide to start posting comments start with a tenuous comment here and there. They don’t start by posting 20-40 comments at a time.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              If you really, really, really need it, you can have my name, address, alternate Email addresses, blood type and criminal record. Yes, I have a record. Nothing major. But I have one. If it’ll soothe your jangled nerves.

            • Captain Howdy

              Nice deflection. Have you posted here under a different name?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              No. I have not. I’ve been following Tony since he was at VV, not too long before he left actually. I’ve never actually spoken up on a blog (besides on a website for a movie that came out last year that was hugely anticipated) before, and that one was the VERY first I’d ever had anything to do with.

              Anything else?

            • Captain Howdy

              OK if you’re from OZ please fill in these musical “blanks’ for me. Nick Cave and the _____, The Cosmic ____, The Beasts of ____, The Celibate ___, Radio ___

              You have 2 minutes.

            • Kim O’Brien

              really ? ( not being sarcastic )

            • Johan

              Sounds like he has a talent alienating people in general. Nevertheless he did a good thing with wiki leaks, of course he didn’t do it alone

            • Missionary Kid

              The term rape is an incorrect translation of what the charges are. Basically, what he’s being charged with is being told by the women that they wanted him to use a condom, and he didn’t.

              That is a sexual crime in Sweden. It is, in effect, a woman saying that in having sex, she wants certain conditions, and he violated them.

            • Uh… when a woman says, “I will have sex with you IF you use a condom”, and you unilaterally decide you’re not going to, and you use your physical weight to hold her down while penetrating her minus a condom, which is what Assange is actually accused of, that is rape. That is rape not only in Sweden, but anywhere in the world, no matter what the law calls it.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ll let someone else parse the definition. What they accused him of doing was gained by stealth instead of force. In my mind, it was, but legally in this country, I don’t know.

              In addition, he refused to take an aids test or be tested for stds, which is the information that the women wanted. As I remember it, at that point, his paranoia took over, because he is saying that such a test could be used to get his DNA.

            • Captain Howdy

              Uh, these woman have changed their stories numerous times.This whole thing is simply an attempt to get Assange to Sweden so he can be turned over to the U.S

            • Robert Eckert

              No, the women haven’t changed the story at all. The Swedish authorities have changed their minds several times about how to deal with it. It would have been easier to get Assange turned over to the US directly from the UK without any detour to Sweden, if the US really wanted him.

            • Robert Eckert

              The story is a little more muddled than that. In the one case, while they were arguing about the condom he pinned her down, but did not penetrate her until he gave in and put on a condom, but then the condom tore when he got rougher than she expected. In the other, the woman thought they were done and dozed off, then was awakened because he was going at it again, and there is an issue whether she actually went unconscious and he knowingly took advantage. He is clearly an abusive sex partner, whether or not it quite amounted to rape in either case.

            • Captain Howdy

              That’s one version.

            • Robert Eckert

              She went to the police asking if they could make him take an AIDS test for her peace of mind, and learned about a second woman with a similar complaint. The Swedish authorities handled the case very badly, announcing exaggerated charges due to a misunderstood version of the story, the prosecutor on the scene then retracting the charges entirely the next day in some embarrassment, with higher-ups finally settling on what we would call a misdemeanor, and technically he has not been “charged” with it yet but is “sought for questioning”. Nowhere in this story is the CIA involved in any way, shape, or form.

            • Captain Howdy

              The women didn’t file their complaints until after the dox dump. And if the charge is a misdemeanor why is he hiding out in the Ecuadorian Embassy? He knows the US among others are gunning for him.

              If the Russians put Snowden on a plane to any of the countries that have offered him sanctuary, do you think that plane would make it there?

          • 1subgenius

            So did Bradley Manning and Ed Snowden.
            If no whistleblowers, no problems.

            • ze moo

              Snowden went to work for a NSA contractor and 90 days later showed up in Hong Kong with a laptop and 3 hard drives and an unknown number of thumb drives with NSA info on them. Snowden is a spy, his ‘stay’ in the Moscow airport will last until the FSB has all the info they want.

            • 1subgenius

              You could be right.
              (How’s that for being reasonable?)

    • Captain Howdy

      Eric Holder PROMISED Vladimir Putin that we wouldn’t TORTURE or EXECUTE (whistle blower) Edward Snowden. As pessimistic as I am my mind reeled when I saw that. AAAAAGGGGH!!!!!!

    • FistOfXenu

      Nice find Other Fist!
      And now the right hand knows what the left hand was doing. 🙂

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    OFF TOPIC: JJ Cale died. Shitz man!

    • 1subgenius

      Just after midnight.

      • Sherbet

        Groan…

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          ..

        • 1subgenius

          I actually didn’t mean mean it in a snarky way.
          It would be quite poetic if true.

      • pronoia

        Gonna cause talk and suspicion. Give an exhibition.

    • Espiando

      Snort a line in his honor today.

    • Captain Howdy

      At first I thought if said John Cale..phew.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Sorry to scare ya Capt.

      • 1subgenius

        I’ve always confused the two and had to google this time to be sure.
        RIP JJ.

        • Captain Howdy

          “I’ve always confused the two and had to google this time to be sure.”

          SACRILEGE! Report to music ethics immediately!

          • 1subgenius

            Oh goody, a sex check. I love those.
            (btw did you see my post today about the judge smith cd?)

    • Sherbet

      Aw.

    • pronoia

      Down arrow because I am so sad to hear this. He was one of my all time favorites. The summer of 77 was the beginning of a JJ Cale year for me. Dark time and he was there. RIP.

  • Bradley Greenwood

    Karen’s video quality is getting better all the time; they are very enjoyable. No one “gives it to” Scientology more effectively than she does. Congrats to her, and AGP.

    • Spackle Motion

      She’s definitely bringing forth stories that many have not heard.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        So true.

    • aquaclara

      Watched this video with Scott earlier this morning, and had to step away from it for a bit before returning. How on earth can this be allowed to continue? These videos are exposing more about the cult every day, another chink in the wall exposed and crumbling.

      If there is a single person still in who is here watching today, do not believe for one single second that this could not happen again. Scientology is evil to the core, and big pharma did not pay me to say so. It could be you, or someone you love next time. Please leave while you can. There are people who can help you.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        One thing that helps me through such accounts, is seeing the beautiful family that was made possible by the painful separation from the evil cult 🙂

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist
    • aquaclara

      This thread on WWP just keeps on giving! Love it!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        So entheta! 😀

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Well I was enturbulated…twice! First, when I saw that awful waste of paint and board and Second, when I saw how much she was asking for it. Scientologists Always way overprice their poor quality wares and services because they have to factor in how much they have to pay out to their neighborhood mafia, I mean scientology ideal mobsters.
          I’m not even exaggerating. It makes no sense, I know.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Disgusting how they waste resources like titanium and art supplies, isn’t it? 😉

            LOL@Ideal Mobsters(TM) you get the (TM) on that one 😛

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Lol, I am starting to feel (sort of) sorry for Linda Mears.

        • aquaclara

          Someday, she may find the comments. That would be sad. But sheesh, the stuff Scientologists say…

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            A bunch that Pete put up on that site have already been removed. So I Imagine she is going to be busy.

    • Observer

      That is hilarious! And it *does* look like Velma.

      I’ve been working on that thread for a couple of days now. While my jaw is in my lap as I read, I really hope those people wake up and get out–especially the ones who have turned their young teenagers over to the Sea Org. Hello, Florida and California Children’s Services! I’m pretty sure the ministerial exception does not apply to minors, regardless of their ronbot parents consenting to their children being brainwashed and worked like rented mules.

      And that that stupid, stupid woman from Mace-Kingsley– … oooo, she just infuriates me!

      • Mark

        How old is Linda Mears? 12? 13?

  • Johan

    These Scott Campbell vids really get up my nose. So no crime here that that these guys can be charged with? I guess Scott needs someone to corroborate his story for the cops to take it seriously. Also, how long ago was it? Is that a factor in kidnapping and assault?

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Scott’s story reverberated among staff in the Sea Org, it was a hush hush story, we knew of the strong arm tactics to confine Scott. It was known up the chain of command what was being done on Scott.

    There is a tacit agreement, starting with the Hubbard drill, TR-3, and contained in Hubbard’s student training rules (coaching and twinning rules) that allow for the use of force, to restrain the supposedly “mentally distraught” patient/parishioner.

    It you remember that Scientology is really a therapy religion, Hubbard’s invention of the TR drills had one purpose of toughening up the therapist/auditors to be able to deal with extremely distraught and recalcitrant patient/preclears.

    Hubbard has in multiple key places in the Scientology “scriptures” made restraint part of the subject. The Auditor’s Code even has the unchallengable dictum that it is up to the therapist/auditor to NEVER allow the patient/preclear to “end the session” on the preclear’s volition!!!!!

    Scientology as a religion authorizes and requires, the members mentally believe that their fellow members deserve and require physical restraint (TR-3, TR-7 drills indoctrinate serious Scientologists with this lifelong obligation towards their charges/patients/preclears/students/twins).

    It is one of the most overlooked and horribly wrong presumptions that gets enforced on ALL Scientologists.

    “Control” “8C” “Tone 40”, “Environmental Control”, “Intention”, these words get added meaning, meanings that cross the line, into illegalities, but Hubbard imbues these words with ESPish qualities.

    Blurring of the mircacle powers of 8C and Tone 40 control, that one is supposedly acquiring when one does the “Upper Indoc TR” training drills, where the simple required physcial restraint control that slips into a Scientologists’ repertoire of behavior at TR-3, this control is enhanced with the supposedly “intention” powers one enhances while doing the later TR drills, specifically TR-7, and one puts it all together and supposedly demonstrates one’s enhanced ESP intention abilities on TR-8

    god, I hate to even try to parse this apart.

    But Hubbard’s writer license and career as writer, dreaming up fantastic fiction, and Hubbard then supposedly going “serious” with his Scientology supernatural power increasing “auditing” and the drilling one does in Scientology’s training course ( a good paper for a researcher, one that is bite sized and chewable, would be to enroll on the “Upper Indoc TRs Course” and write like a top journalist a daily dairy, and REALLY dig historically into Hubbarfd’s redefinition of the words Hubbard re-defines on the “Upper Indoc Course”).

    What was applied to Scott, was essentially the greater violence, hidden under the “religious scriptures” redefining of “control” as a type of religious practice or practices.

    We in the Scientology training department, and any well trained Scientologist gets bonked into thinking like Scientologists, and that thinking includes the allowed physical control, that we are trained to do on each other, by the TRs and Upper Indoc TRs.

    Specifically, the violence on Scott, comes from TR-3, TR-7, and TR-8. And then about half a dozen other references.

    Once you get the legal signature of a member, allowing themselves to have Scientology’s scriptures implemented on oneself, then this violence is authorized and legally protected religious behavior.

    Authorized indoctrination, authorized “twinning”, authorized “Liability” watching.

    When a person signs on the dotted line, to apply Scientology/Hubbard principles and practices, one signs up for physical restraint and being “watched”, and forced behaviors, just because Hubbard requires it, by the Hubbard rules.

    Leaving it, escaping it, is the sane thing to do, and find some ex member sympathetic ears to tell one’s stories to.

    Scientology will only try to continue re-writing reality to suit Hubbard’s warped interpretations of human behavior.

    What was done to Scott, ties directly to TR-3, TR-7, “Coaching”, “Twinning”, “Liability Formula”, for starters. All of these are Orwellian re-defining of the use of force and factually the cutting edge of the illegal line Scientology crosses, and Scientology gets away with this, since this is Hubbard scripture.

    • Robert Eckert

      “Consent” does not make it non-criminal, no matter how often they tell you that it does.

      • shasha40

        Yeah, but who’s going to complain ? To Scions, it’s so deeply indoctrnated to Hubbards Wacky World of Scientology . Are the children under 18 giving consent ? I don’t believe that woud be legal .

        • Robert Eckert

          I don’t know what the various statutes of limitations are, but some of this may still be prosecutable.

          • shasha40

            You would think they would have been prosecuted by now ,with the amount of crimes they’ve done over decades. But the wheels of Justice turn slowly my friend, which is why I rely on Karma ! 🙂

          • ze moo

            Scotts word against CO$, no one will win that one. You need proof, and the $cientology system keeps the proof away from the law. An FBI agent, held under conditions like Scott’s , could testify until the moon turned blue, but without proof confirming the agents testimony, it all goes down the drain.

            • Robert Eckert

              It is up to the jury to determine which testimony is credible. The victim’s statements themselves are evidence; a prosecutor might prefer more confirmatory evidence, but do you have much doubt which side the jury would believe here?

        • Eddie Vroom

          Hence the agreement to not use Wog courts or law enforcement.

    • villagedianne

      Intention can be a great thing, if you use it to improve and empower yourself. But it becomes an evil when it is used to subjugate others or to deprive others of their free will. As usual Hubbard takes a potentially good concept and turns it to the dark side.

    • Truthiwant

      I always love reading anything you write, Chuck.

      Thanks.

    • 0tessa

      Impressive analysis.

    • aquaclara

      Thank you for adding to this, for the official record. So that it will not be forgotten!

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Years ago, I was chatting with Nancy Many on the phone, before her “Billion Year Contract” came out, about this fine line of illegality that Scientology scriptures and practices lure their membership to cross, and then defend as religious practice.

        TR-3, the innocuous early training drill contains a sentence so subtly written, but which opens right into the later depths of illegal physical control that was perpetrated on Scott, and thousands of others in lesser ways, in Scientology’s history.

        TR-3 needs further dissecting, the sentence that opens the door, that all Scientologists pass through, in becoming participating co-conspirators of Scientology’s physical restraint tactics.

        • aquaclara

          Please keep writing, Chuck…. There is a book in you-with deep insight into the crapola of Dianutty, and how it affects people, their behaviors and actions. And the examples to back it all up.

          • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

            I’m 61, in about 6-7 years I’ll pick some chapter length sub subjects, and do papers to the non paying cult journal(s), and consolidate what I’ve learned from others, and liberally quote the core Hubbard writings to back it all up.

            There are SO MANY more former LRH aides and people who spent facetime with Hubbard still needing to be stirred to do their memoirs! Believe me! Clever summaries are one thing, and raw history from people who spent years and important moments with Hubbard, those stories NEED to be shared!

            • MissCandle

              Chuck,
              I am just a not-so-innocent and never-in bystander here, but do you realize how much you have already written? If you consolidated all the posts and notes and letters and etc. that you have written, you already have an outline for a book. A book that people will buy and read. All you need is an editor. BTW, I am an editor.

            • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

              Paulette Cooper’s very dapper and really smart cookie husband instantly sized me up.

              He called me a facilitator.

              I believe the best I can do is stir MORE details into the public domain, and let the bigger cheeses and people with even more important firsthand stories to speak and write ongoing history.

              I love reading better writers than me, and I more try to push more details into the public domain so that society’s better writers, and hopefully someday some more clever funny TV shows will tackle some of the comedy side to the Scientology cult.

            • MissCandle

              I KNOW that Tony O’s book will be a best seller and hopefully it will encompass the entire Venn Diagram; however, your book will a niche book in the same vein as Paulette Cooper’s book, Marc Headley’s book, and Jenna’s book. Not pressuring, not even asking to be your editor, just sayin’ . . .

            • Kim O’Brien

              that is gonna eat Marty up …

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              He pisses me off. Really, really pisses me off. He is no “warrior” at all. He’s a thug. Same as Rinder. Although I do happen to find Rinder *slightly* more palatable, they both need to grow the f*$k up.

              Rathbun has no idea what it truly means to be a warrior. For starters, a warrior would never announce themselves as such, but would have the ability to see another warrior for what they truly are. A warrior would not sneak around using dirty tricks and coercion to get what they wanted.

              He is scum.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Keeping someone from leaving a session is an entirely different set of circumstances in almost every way, compared to the crimes committed involving Scott Campbell.

          In fact, scientology upper management go to extreme lengths to keep the worst of crimes, including violence, a secret, including from the majority of members because the majority would walk out the door if they knew. While from recent reports of the last 2 to 3 years show that it doesn’t take long before you either witness or hear about internal crimes, it used to years before anyone got even a hint of it. Most scientologists up until perhaps recently would Never excuse this kind of treatment. Now that the conditions inside sea org staff live are more known, I hear that members keep their children out.

          It’s true that keeping the “bad pr” and the authorities coming in is a big part of the disconnection and cover up schemes, it is also true it exists to keep members, both public and staff, in the dark about what is really going on.

          • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

            Absolutely agreed!

            About 5 -7 years ago, before the media started really getting that new wave of senior ex leaders going public, I myself was just lining up some of my former superiors to PLEASE just confirm what I firsthand expeirenced.

            Example, when I was in the RPF men’s dorm, the then Bosun RPF, was there to “handle” me.

            This RPF Bosun eventually got out, and I emailed him, and wished to have him confirm my memory of our conversation, as it relates directly on the restraint an violence tradition, that goes on, creatively beyond the details of what Hubbard wrote specifically.

            So yes, agreed.

            And of course the vicious attack on Scott, punching him to stop him, and all the recent details from Debbie Cook’s testimony, and even Marc Headley’s book and Marc’s “Blownforgood” many many postings, of which contain a whole lot more violence, and even Marty’s site’s stories of violence, there is a boatload, agreed, of details to put in a time track and index them all.

            I thought it would be a chapter, but if I were to just take 15 minutes of study of the chat sites’ incidents, it likely would be a small book, “The History of Sea Org Violence, and Hubbard Related Supportive Scientology Writings”.

    • Sunny Sands

      Interesting write-up. Although I’ve never been in, and you have, I find it incomprehensible that anyone can sign away their civil rights in favor of a religious exercise. Specifically, that hog tying Scott and putting tape over his mouth is somehow allowed because he signed a “religious” paper.

    • Excellent points Chuck! For those who aren’t intimately familiar with all the different TRs that Chuck is referring to, Margery Wakefield did a FANTASTIC series of demo videos earlier this year that shows exactly how all this stuff works:

      http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAEh_OhfE6eWfFVbWPs89R7rPO306cfR

      Weird shi- is weird… but kind of fascinating too. YMMV.

    • Lark Smith

      Most institutions that practice physical restraint as way of managing acting out behaviors have very specific guidelines when, where, and how the learned techniques should be applied. The core philosophy behind using these techniques is “to provide for the safety, security, and welfare of the individual and others”. These techniques are only employed when a person is a danger to themselves or others. Many techniques have been abandoned because they proved to be harmful. Any institution legitimately practicing these techniques are held liable if injury occurs due negligence or applying SKILLS incorrectly. This is out right ABUSE. Any claims Lyingtology makes that their drech being beneficial is undone by not using universal best practices when managing an individual that has lost control and very dangerous.

      • shasha40

        All of what you said is very true, the problem is , with Scientology, the whole indoctrination is a restraint. It’s not something others can see or even comprehend, especially for many of us in the wog world that are unfamiliar with Scientology’s practices . The control it has over it’s adherents is too fantastical for some to believe, and with disconnection from family and friends it’s a pretty effective restraint.

        • Lark Smith

          As a never- in it difficult at times to understand the beliefs that allow such dangerous behaviors. That criminal acts of violence, negligence, and abuse are protected under the cover of religion. That people are brainwashed to avoid the police even they are in dire trouble. It enrages me because it seems none of the checks and balances we use as a society seem to prevent this type of abuse- tragic.

          • shasha40

            Bingo ! I was never in either , but I’m fascinated by the things you’ve mentioned , and I’ve been watchin for a while. I fully understand your outrage , I was ready to storm the Big Blue ! Haha,That’s why it’s nice to have the Bunker to let out the frustration verbally,and the fact that it’s ” The” TonyO blogging is icing on the caek !

          • SandiCorrena

            It’s so hard for us never-ins to contemplate what seems like the giant leap from a personality test or a communication course to not being able to think for youself at all (like a big Borg collective) but I’ve found through reading the books of the exes I can see it. I’m determined to read them all just to respect their stories and honor their freedom. I will say though I have to pace myself; I read three back to back once and crashed for several days. By comarison that was nothing; I can’t even imagine the trauma of someone who was in….and like sasha40 I often want to just go storm something on their behalf.

    • Observer

      It’s a pity nobody restrained Hubbard.

      • shasha40

        Or Tiny dick , heel just put him in their pocket ! The front pocket of any shirt or pant will do.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        His sci fi colleagues in their various ways tried to sway Ron NOT to keep up the Dianutty stuff, but Ron had already for all the reasons in the great books, couldn’t put down the lure of his own dedicated followers.

        Mary Sue Hubbard’s “The Way Ron Works” writing, tells of a pivotal moment in Ron’s life, where Ron was almost lured away and back OUT of Dianutty.

        The world would have been a better place, if Ron had just taken that offer back then, that Mary Sue tells about. (Martin Gardner’s “Fads and Fallacies” book pegged Hubbard correctly, and comparing Mary Sue’s “The Way Ron Works” with Gardner’s chapter on Hubbard in “Fads and Fallacies” is an important lesson for exiting ex member Scientologists.)

    • Eddie Vroom

      You may not be aware of this Chuck, but there are a number of peer-reviewed papers that have been published post-9/11 linking cults with terrorism. I would love to see your thoughts such as this added to the repository in some formal and formally citable manner.

    • 0tessa

      I view the built-in control mechanisms in line with the ‘unreasonableness doctrine’. In Scientology you learn to be ‘unreasonable’, that is to say, no compassion, no acceptance of any weakness or distress, because that is all ‘reactive mind’ or ‘bank’. Pity is low on the tonescale, so not acceptable for staffmembers.
      What scientologists don’t see is that this unreasonableness leads to dehumanization of the person who is being taught not to be reasonable. It opens the way to all sorts of harshness, toughness and abuse in the end. With the ‘bank’ as enemy which must be conquered, much is permitted. When you are reasonable the ‘bank’ wins, and that’s is not what we want! If we have to kill a person in order to kill his ‘bank’ so be it. He will be better off for it anyway.
      And when you’ve have been a bit too violent with a person, nah, who bothers, nothing that an auditing session can’t repair!
      It is a very nasty logic. It is the logic of the devil.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Yes, agreed.

        Hubbard’s principles are like straps.

        Straps that strap his other ideas onto one’s back, and one gets fully strapped in, and it’s very difficult to get unstrapped from it all!

      • lisacarolfremont

        Agree! It’s sadistic and destructive! Very luciferian indeed.

    • ze moo

      While this works in private, any violent action in public or any complaint to legal authorities would result in arrests. CO$ can’t stand the light of day or any publicity.

    • Zana

      Wow. Thank you for sharing this. Diabolical. I was so naive.

    • Interested

      What did he do wrong to warrant this type of savagery. What crime could warrant him being trussed up like a pig ready for slaughter and left basically to die. If he had died what lie would have been given for his death. Suicide? Again?

      • Robert Eckert

        Probably no lie would have been necessary. He simply would have disappeared, like so many others.

        • Interested

          No ! I don’t think this time, they would have had to get rid of his wife too surely?

          • FistOfXenu

            Maybe they’d just tell his wife he’s on an important work for the cult. But don’t worry, he’s with Heber and Shelly and their team. And he’s giving you a divorce. When you can lie like they do you don’t have to kill every body. Unless it’s for the fun.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Nothing done against Scott was warranted.

        Hubbard’s world of bad ideas precipitated these abuses.

    • coonellie

      I bet Skip Press couldn’t have written that in one line 😉

      And, thanks, my eyes are now crossed permanently trying to figure this stuff out.

    • cicely neville

      physical restraint and violence are cult hallmarks. Jonestown, anyone?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Coming Soon …. to an Ideal Court and/or Tent Near You…

    http://i44.tinypic.com/168vdoz.jpg

    http://youtu.be/YLM9XxdRdzw

    • shasha40

      Awesom ! BOLO , DM COB RTC COS , ’cause they’re coming ! Lmao

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        And if DM is Really lucky, he may just have a Warrior Princess leading them in!

        • shasha40

          Would that be Xena, The Warrior Princess ? He better hope the Mommas aren’t lead by her, she’s mean with a sword ! Oh, well. {Wishing you lots of Luck Tiny dick ! }

          • Eddie Vroom

            (no comment)

          • shasha40

            * led *

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Ah, the mystery of the tent structure has been solved. A scientologist talked about last Friday’s Graduation at Flag where Miscavige stated the IAS Tent Structure in England is being moved to Clearwater and the people who set it up for them are being sent here as well. (wonder how much That is costing).

    So I found a speeded up time video of Arena Group putting up the IAS Tent structure in previous set ups. This structure does appear to have bones to it, but guess what? In East Grinstead, they did Not have a gulf down the block where even a sunset breeze topples beach umbrellas and a normal storm in Florida right on the gulf front can have some wicked downdrafts and gusts. Miscavige will now have to bribe or browbeat Somebody to set up an entire org of Tent Repair Slaves, or more likely, come October he will “discover ” a master conspiracy to remove him from his throne and suddenly the RPF Holee membership numbers will be straight up and vertical!

    http://youtu.be/SZlYNDe4zlg

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Um? Seriously?
      Those things are fairly cheap in Florida in comparison to a tear down and shipping it over and reconstruction.
      Plus that doesn’t look like it will even fit on that lot.
      This makes no economic sense.

      Edit: Nevermind. I was thinking with my “work” mind. Carry on.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I think you should Demand a meeting with Miscavige Immediately for a darn good ‘splainin!
        (will you leave me your shades in your will before you go?)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Of course you get the shades!

          Silly me. I would just sell the UK structure locally and then buy one here.
          There are manufacturers right there in Tampa bay (several).
          I would also make the erection construction part of the contract.

          But….Oh, nevermind again………….
          If he worked for me I would so fire his ass!

      • SandiCorrena

        Off topic but OH BTN!!! Happy happy mail day today!!!!! <3 If you have bus. cards send some if you can and….I'll be back for sure!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yeah! Glad to hear it, (and that you are happy) and I will send some cards out to you.
          Thanks again!

    • Sunny Sands

      I went by the lot today and it looks like nothing has been started so far. Great work getting the YT video link. I agree the IAS tent looks larger than the lot. I drove by the west side on Osceola and cars were parked on street, blocking the view. I’m wondering how it is legal to put that up, the area is densely populated. September and October are prime hurricane months, even a strong tropical storm could take that thing down, and injure others in the process.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It wouldn’t make sense to put it up now. We’re just a week or two away from the main hurricane season. October used to be the perfect vacation month, that and May. Now, weather “schedules” are inside out. But winter usually offers up one or two hellacious storms as well. All it would take is one of our summer storms and debris flying into it. Makes no sense, of course. I’d like to see a permit for a “permanent tent” on the gulf front myself. But then again, how in sam hell did they get a permit for a basement by the gulf And as a place to stick the slaves no less, not like it is for storage purposes. jeesh. There’s no science Or sense in scientology.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I want to see that Permit too!
          I cannot imagine them getting one from the City.
          That is going to look freaking hideous!

        • Sunny Sands

          The SP building is almost across the street from the tent lot. Sitting there in all its empty glory. The psychological impact will be huge.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            YES…and that is the best part!
            Cognitive Dissonance Clams???

          • DeElizabethan

            According to Rinders latest news is that ‘it’ should be open one month prior to event. Said at Friday’s Flog event.
            Oh this is 7 hours late and you already must have heard it.

      • RMycroft
      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        those popup canopies won’t last even Indoors in Florida!

        • Sunny Sands

          U.K. based Arena Group acquired Karl’s Event Services this year. This is a U.S. based company that includes clients such as the Super Bowl, Fashion Week in NYC, PGA and NASCAR, and is described as a global temporary structure company.

          http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2013/04/03/karls-events-acquired-by-uk-company.html

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Good find! This is top of the line pro services and goods. I see they have begun to add some of the hard materials facades, which they show for their Mercedes event. And hey, they have mobilization ready for disasters on the gulf coast! hah. Perhaps the sci heard it wrong that DM was bringing the UK tent over to Florida. It absolutely would have to cost a fortunate for shipping. This is going to cost a big chunk of change. Maybe the information about it being “permanent ” is wrong, because these are all temporary structures, even the best of them and not meant for permanent placement. Thanks!

      • shasha40

        Did you say , how isit legal ? Big Beings like Tiny d*ck Are The Law . ( or will bribe, steal, cheat and lie until it’s Legal ! )

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Bonnie and her husband Richard, are experts in helping families who’ve lost family members behind Scientology’s SP rule system.

    It’s a whole major subject, worthy of a site just for the BEST advice on how to help get family back out of Scientology, to have Bonnie and Richard’s years of experience laid out.

    Bonnie’s done a book, I haven’t finished reading it, but she lays out here story:

    “Deceived. One Woman’s Stand Against the Church of Scientology”, 2009.

    One history sidenote, when I arrived at the Los Angeles RPF, in November 2000, (I was transferring from the Happy Valley RPF to the LA RPF), my bunkmate Ed Parkin, in the RPF men’s dorm I was assigned to, Ed was assigned to the RPF, for having been connected to the loss to Bonnie! Ed was OSA Int staff, and there were 6 or 7 OSA Int staff on the LA RPF in Nov 2000, Ed was there for being collateral damage fallout and the required “who” scapegoat to pin the blame on most majorly for the legal loss to Bonnie!

    Ed Parkin was the on the ground OSA Int man in the UK, who was assigned to the Bonnie legal case.

    How the OSA staffers mentally compartment their lives, dodging Miscavige’s wrath (“…they’re all a bunch of GO losers!!!….” being a frequent comment out of Miscavige’s mouth, per Marty’s 3rd book), and dodging Hubbard’s crazy rules that make life for OSA staff trying to follow Hubbard’s crazy patently immoral and sometimes illegal rules and pressures, a whole TV series or comedy show could be sub-produced on what life as an OSA stodge is like! (The internet cheerleader OSA lady of late 1990s fame, Eileen Siegel, would be excellent fodder for a comedy sketch.)

    But, alas, it takes years for the ex OSA people to ‘decompress’ and get enough cultural re-education to have a sense of humor about their serious roles in OSA!

    Marty Rathbun tells how serious the Guardian’s Office biggest of biggies, were so unbelievably loyal and faithful to Hubbard, even more loyal than the defectors that Marty dumps on a little in the 80s. As if loyalty by Jane Kember and the top GO biggies, was more ethical in human history, compared to the great defectors of the 1980s who did TV shows in the US and UK (another eternal reason to praise Mark Bunker for Xenu TV, priceless, and side thankyou to Mark).

    Bonnie is truly a hero!

    And thanks to the UK scientology critic(s) who helped line Bonnie up with the pro bono top UK lawyer that helped win her case!

    The timing on getting ex members through their return to normal cultural thinking, and laughing about their horrible lives, I still hope, and wish for some old Guardian’s Office, and some newer OSA Int staffer defectors (Frank Oliver thinking types), and even better, someone with a humorous angle to their lives, finds their voice and writes and goes public!

  • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

    Ooooh, bein’ downvoted. I’m going to cry.

    😀

    • Captain Howdy

      Maybe that was because obvious crude innuendo lewdness towards highly respected members of the the opposite sex isn’t appreciated around here, Bruce.

      • Robert Eckert

        WTF are you talking about? You are starting to sound like Flunk on one of his bad days.

        • Captain Howdy

          Your answer is in the previous comments.

          • Robert Eckert

            Like Flunk referring to “attacks” on him the day that nobody had even spoken to him, you are referring to “obvious crude innuendo lewdness” when no such thing has appeared anywhere on this thread. I don’t have, and I suspect nobody has, the slightest idea what you are referring to.

            • Sandy

              I saw it. He maybe has removed it. It was, as Howdy says, crude. Maybe Tony took it off.)

            • Sandy

              It can take alot to bring me out of lurkiness, but, I gotta defend Howdy here.

            • sugarplumfairy

              good girl! I’m with you!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I always like it when you “de-lurk”.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I still have NFI what is being referred to here. If I did post something inappropriate, my sincere apologies to everyone.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Yah, Robert.. You may not see it, but Howdy knows what he knows.. He is very rarely wrong.. Except about music..

            • Robert Eckert

              OK, I was keeping up with the posts pretty much all day, but I must have missed whatever he was talking about. This came just after his strange post demanding that OtherFist proved his Australian-ness by naming punk bands, as if other people in the world tend to share Howdy’s tastes in music. I thought he was just going off the deep end.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Ive been enjoying other fist’s comments for the past few days.. I see one comment from him that says only “. .” the rest tody seem ok.. But knowing nothing else about it, I’ve been reading all Howdy’s comments for over a year.. I’d bet on him.. He’s pretty well grounded.. And he doesn’t go back and change his comments..

            • Captain Howdy

              Dude complained about being downvoted, no? Those are the comments in question.

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t know which are the comments in question. The “prove to me you’re from Oz” seemed to come out of the blue, as did the down-arrows. I gather that there was an exchange that got quickly deleted.

            • Captain Howdy

              Don’t worry about it dude. It’s not that important.

            • Robert Eckert

              ‘sOK, I understand it now.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Well, Ya’ll have driven me to drink!
              Yep, that is my story and I am stickin to it.

              OK, actually I worked all day and it is just time to relax and Mr. Nuts bought me wine.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I just stopped back in to check out that tent company and while waiting for Mr Hole to come back with some Louisiana cajun. Hey, I’m just reading on another tab for Karl’s tent services that they had a tent up that survived Hurricane Sandy….hmmmm

              http://www.karls.com/

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yeah, there are some pretty damn sturdy “permanent tents”…(spits).
              But even still…WHY would you erect that POS in downtown Clearwater?
              In reality, those buildings are made to actually be semi permanent structures.
              In fact, because of the rounded sides on (most of them), they deflect the wind better than the big metal pole barn structures.
              They have to meet certain wind load standards (120mph), if i remember correctly) to even be approved in the state.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              and what a Waste of members’ cold cash! Gee, I wonder if some the money is coming from the Super Power fund? Maybe DM will a VIP Ceremony naming the Tent as “The Super Power Outhouse” in case the Garcia attorneys are noticing all this smoke and mirrors going on.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I would upchuck but there is no way I am wasting a decent wine that I haven’t got a full buzz off yet 🙂

            • Sunny Sands

              I think DM raids whatever fund he wants to for his pet projects.

            • DeElizabethan

              Cheers m’ love!

            • sugarplumfairy

              I feel ya.. I missed it too.. I hate it when I miss stuff..

            • Captain Howdy
        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I have NFI what he’s on about either. Where did I make lewd crude comments?

    • FLUNK_101

      Robert Eckert is suicidally depressed and in need of professional help.
      Captain Howdy is an ignorant turd who hates all of humanity.
      Don’t waste your time.

      • sugarplumfairy

        See? That’s the kind of comment that makes me think you’re still in.. You remember things said by other commenters that you can later use to embarrass and offend.. And then you make a feeble attempt at confront and shatter.. Who does that remind you of??? Cof$??? bingo!!

        Stop your offensive comments, or you will make me, and probably others, wonder about your motives, Flunk..

      • Kim O’Brien

        don’t talk about a fellow Bostonian that way Flunk …and to say with joy that someone is suicidally depressed on a blog ..is fucking gross and cruel . Shame on you

        • FLUNK_101

          I take no joy in saying that. And I didn’t want to go negative.
          But it’s my opinion that they’re giving him a hard time.
          If you read down the blog, you can see them giving him the third degree.
          From the time he first posted I think he made it clear enough where he was coming from.
          Now, they’re accusing him of being Flunk! So I said something.
          Please, don’t accuse Unit G of being Flunk! Never do that! Not even joking!

          • Kim O’Brien

            there are different ways to defend people …what you did was shameful and some part of you liked saying that another person is suicidal and depressed . I think you do take joy in it or else you would not have done it. It is cruel and wrong ..and you know it . I think you just might miss the part of scientology that enjoys you being a cruel asshole …like a dry drunk

            • FLUNK_101

              Both of them have repeatedly (and falsely) of being mentally ill. Never heard you complain about that, Kim.
              Howdy already ” implied” that he was Flunk. Now Eckert, who I think has something to contribute, is saying it too.
              Once, talking about technology, and how it has changed not only women’s, but all of our lives, you responded, “Oh, you have a penis.” That ‘s the same as telling a man he thinks with his dick, because he knows something about the history of science. So don’t lecture me about being an asshole, OK Kim?

            • Kim O’Brien

              i think i just found the world smallest violin

            • Captain Howdy

              “Howdy already ” implied” that Unit G was Flunk.”

              Wrong as usual.

            • FLUNK_101

              No, not as usual. When you said he had a certain “sense” of “humor,” I thought you meant me. I stand corrected.

            • Kim O’Brien

              It’s all about you flunk . Even if someone really IS depressed and suicidal ..somehow it is still all about you. Unless of course …it was just an analogy .

            • FLUNK_101

              I was too harsh. I didn’t want to argue, but I felt compelled to say something when my name came up, and then I got carried away. Sorry.

            • Sandy

              Flunk. No one even thought about you today except you. Sorry.

            • pronoia

              You are way too easy a mark. Every time you not o ly stoop to someone else’s level, but also often, usually raise the ante, you appear to “prove” the point of your opponent. You might get a adrenalin rush at the time, but it can’t be worth it in the long run. It is very sad that you continue to stoop to this behavior.

            • FLUNK_101

              That’s a good description of my behavior! Though, sometimes I actually believe, if we really talk about it, you might see my point if view. That’s been my experience in life, but not on this blog.

              Thx.

            • stillgrace

              I remember that exchange with Kim very well. At no time did I EVER think that she implied that you think with your dick!! Where in the heck did that come from??!!

              I remember you were off on a tangent on how fabulous women are in so many different ways. It came off as a bit condescending to women, and I think that is what Kim MIGHT have been reacting to.

              But hey! We can go back an look it up exactly, if you want!! But not now! I’m off to enjoy an evening of musical theater. Maybe later, I’ll look it up. Bye!

            • FLUNK_101

              I asked her to correct me if I was wrong. She said what she said. It was an insult. And then she took it back , and said something like ,” Oh, nice edit.”
              And I wasn’t in any way being condescending
              !

            • FLUNK_101

              (Continued) I was talking about the history of science.
              Politicians sometimes take credit for things that they had nothing to do with. Developments in science can change the economy and change the way we live, too.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I’ve seen Flunk’s comments around before. We are NOT one and the same.

              Maybe I will email all my personal details to Tony so he can confirm who I am.

              Fuck it, that’s exactly what I’m going to do.

          • Robert Eckert

            Your reading comprehension is still not very good. Nobody has accused Unit G of being Flunk. And I wasn’t accusing Unit G of anything at all, rather I was questioning what it was that Howdy was accusing him of, and saying that Howdy was sounding like you.

      • FistOfXenu

        For fucks sake FLUNK. You have an evil twin you let use your DisQonnectus account and post here? Or you just decide it’s been too long since you pissed people off for no good reason?

        Perk up your ears a minute and tune in. The other day I stuck up for you. I was warned you’d do some thing like this but no, I figured it was just a big misunderstanding and you were trying to get away from how you used to be and people deserve a 2nd chance. You do remember that far back right? Good.

        It won’t happen again. I don’t know what the fuck your game is but it sucks. “People” deserve a 2nd chance. You? You just pissed yours away. Again. You’ll do whatever the fuck it is you do but I won’t be defending you again. The group wisdom was right about you and I was wrong. Some day you might really want help but I won’t be in line to offer it because I won’t trust you that much. What’s left of my life’s too short to waste on you.

        Every body else: sorry Bunkerites. You warned me. You were right. I’m a lot less naive about this guy than I was a few days ago.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Email sent to Tony with all my bits in there.

        • FLUNK_101

          Robert Eckert gave me a hard time recently, no matter how hard I tried to reason with him. You never complained about that, FOX!

    • sugarplumfairy

      In that case you should add some roughage..

  • aquaclara

    Scambaiter, you done good here. Really, this is huge.
    FOR THE RECORD.

    Wow.

  • Eddie Vroom

    Scientology’s just foot-draging, I don’t see any benefit for them in delay beyond the delay itself. Our “team” gets in a few extra man-hours of analysis and synthesis, time to find a few more trumps and leave the gamers time to find ways to best exploit them.

    Oh, yeah–we have teams of experienced gamers.

    I *love* crowdsourcing. 😉

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      You got job openings? 😀 Experienced gamer RIGHT HERE!!! 😀

  • i-Betty

    I don’t swear (I’d make a rubbish scientologist), but they can FUCK OFF for what they did to Scott Campbell.

  • mook

    Apparently, nobody’s told Kirstie the Hutt about the public backlash against her
    https://mobile.twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/360989965615767552

    • Zana

      OMG. Is that a threat? On Twitter? It’s amazingly boor-ish… like a raging elephant in a china shop.

      • Once_Born

        Sounds like a threat. Unless the tweeter is out of control, it sounds likea threat that that your secret confessional material (currently protected by the most ethical people on the planet) could be handed over to deluded cultist bigots to persecute you with at any moment.

        I was never in, but this little detail just made be realise what it must be like to be on the receiving end of CofS persecution (and a new respect for Leah Remini for facing up to them).

  • disqus_SPiN5N4Adl

    ENGRAMS:

    Slightly off topic, but did anyone see the NYT science article reporting data (discovered by neurologists, I believe) that help prove the empirical existence of ENGRAMS in our neural circuitry? Go to –> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/science/false-memory-planted-in-a-mouse-brain-study-shows.html?ref=science
    Am not personally able to say whether the study methods were valid or not, but the information sure looked like something that would be of interest to persons familiar with Hubbard’s basic theories.
    -SPiN

    • Couch_Incident

      Interesting article about creating false memories in mice.

      Of course, “engram” as used by neuroscientists (defined as “A hypothetical permanent change in the brain accounting for the existence of memory; a memory trace.”) has nothing to do with LiaRH’s engrams (defined as “a mental image picture which is a recording of an experience containing pain, unconsciousness and a real or fancied threat to survival. It is a recording in the reactive mind of something which actually happened to an individual in the past and which contained pain and unconsciousness … It must, by definition, have impact or injury as part of its content. These engrams are a complete recording, down to the last accurate detail, of every perception present in a moment of partial or full unconsciousness.”).

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yes, Hubbard ruined a perfectly good word….yet again.
        Take it back Science….it belongs to you!

        • Couch_Incident

          Hey Bury! Love the new avatar and for once, I recognize it!

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Ah, thanks sweetie dharling!

      • Robert Eckert

        Hubbard wrote Dianetics shortly after the word “engram” had been coined, and latched on to it as “cutting edge science” without, of course, understanding what the article using the word “engram” was really talking about. Some time ago there was a link (I will edit it in if I can find it again) to an early draft of what became Dianetics, sent to the Explorer’s Club I think, in which the mental hangups were referred to as the “norns” (a term borrowed from Norse mythology).

  • media_lush

    what is it about dentists and scientology?

    ….. had ‘Face Off’ in the background yesterday and noticed the extent of JT’s fillings…. you’d have that that he would have least got the more expensive enamel ones….

    • media_lush
      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Eeeeewwww ML.

        • Captain Howdy

          Lovely “ROLF”

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            I can take a LOT, but that is SUCKUS!!!!

      • DeElizabethan

        Laugh of the day!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          uggh

          • DeElizabethan

            I’m into the arts, very creative! And sarcastically funny!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              LOL DEE,,I cant look

            • DeElizabethan

              LOL, that’ll be the day! <3

      • SandiCorrena

        Is she eliminating engrams?

        • FistOfXenu

          Honking up some of her extra stomach BTs. Trouble is they reproduce like flies on a corpse. She can’t puke fast enough.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Sorry, Scott. I have often told people that I dodged a bullet with Scientology. Only recently have I realized how close this may have been to being literally true.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Has anyone ever done a shooop of the “Sea Borg”? Kind of fits their robotic mannerisms.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Bonnie Woods’s book should definitely be on the “must read” list of books by former Scientologists. Although she doesn’t mention Miscavige, and provides relatively few details about church theology and the day to day conditions she survived in the church, (she points readers to Jon Atack’s book for the rest of that exposé), her book is important because it demonstrates how little the church actually has in its arsenal outside of bullying. In the 90s, she sued them for libel, they counter-sued, and when the court ordered them to release OT I, II & III writings to prove their allegations that she was lying, they dropped the counter-suit, and then settled before a trial started. The church tried to imply she was forced to apologize to them, but that fizzled pretty quickly. Since the the court ordered the church to never harass or libel Woods again, or face criminal penalties, Miscavige has probably been relieved her story is not that well known. Now that Tony and Jon have brought it front and center again, which means that potentially millions of people will be hearing the story for the first time as it blasts its way through the Internet, Miscavige must be fuming. Here is a critic they have been ordered not to attack. She does spend much time discussing the fact that she is a born again Christian, which Miscavige could try to use to defuse the book’s effectiveness. That’s a rock and hard place for Miscavige; if he tries to belittle her book as a dispute between beliefs, he gives her publicity. If he attacks evangelical Christianity, he may get Pat Robertson on his tail. If he harasses her in the UK, where she lives, the church gets criminal indictments. What a hornets nest for Miscavige created by one petite grandmother the church thought was worthless! (Not to mention the fact that, since there seems to be almost no one left in the CoS in England, there probably is no one left there to harass Woods.)

    • i-Betty

      What a brilliant summary.

    • Once_Born

      Regarding the number of Scientologists in the UK…

      In 2011, the government held a national census. It allowed people to ‘write in’ their religious affiliation. Since committed Scientologists would surely take this opportunity to declare themselves, the census results represent an accurate idea of the real influence of the Scientology in the UK (although no way of telling CofS and independents apart).

      You can download a spreadsheet containing a detailed breakdown at http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rft-table-qs210ew.xls

      To give you an idea, in my city there are 75 Scientologists… and 75 Jedi.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        “Since committed Scientologists would surely take this opportunity to declare themselves, the census results represent an accurate idea of the real influence of the Scientology in the UK (although no way of telling CofS and independents apart).”

        How ironic if it turns out that independent Scientologists make up a large chunk of the Scientologists listed in this census. If Miscavige claims that many members of the church didn’t list their religion, and that is why the numbers are low, he’s dug himself into a hole, and it would beg the question, why not? Fear? If independents came forward and claimed they had listed Sceientology as their religion, Miscavige is in even deeper trouble.

        • John P.

          I think it likely that the cult worked really hard to get members to list their religion on the Census as a way of showing “straight up and vertical” expansion. As bad as the total number is, it would probably have been a lot worse if they didn’t push people. Also, I suspect that a lot of the responses are for employees at St. Hill — note that West Sussex and East Sussex have about 800 Scientologists between them, which is more than the numbers in Greater London. That seems to be consistent with what I know of staff size at Saint Hill plus allowance for family members, etc.

          I doubt the number of “independent Scientologists” would move the needle much on the census numbers for Scientology overall. So I don’t think that there would be much impact on Miscavige or on the cult if it were possible to break out cult members from “indies.”

          I would be surprised if more than 10% of the non-Sussex Scientologists in the census were independents… I would also be surprised if the global Indie movement of all stripes (Freezone, iScientology/Steve Hall related groups, independent auditors, etc) was more than about 1,500 people versus a cult membership (including staff) of about 25,000 worldwide.

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            If “St. Hill size” is the goal for each Org, then the low numbers listed for E. and W. Sussex should wake up members of the church, if they ever see this document. That brings up another question, if there was a push for members to identify themselves in the census, you would think they would want to see the resultant government report. The answer to question is, of course, if Miscavige is silent on it, no one dare bring it up, if Miscavige tells the members that the census reports that there are 1-2 million members in England/Wales, no one dare question that number; and if Miscavige tells the media, if asked, that the census numbers are corrupt and the real proof of expansion is the numbers of new buildings, no one in the church will dare to object.

  • Sunny Sands

    Love the picture of Bonnie Woods at the top of the page. Her balloon says “Happy Birthday, Liar”.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    There is no statute of limitations for murder, and many states have no statute of limitations on felonies. If Scott had died, it would have been murder. Aside from the fact that attempted murder is a felony, his treatment begs the question as to how many people were murdered at Miscavige’s direct orders. Miscavige should be very, very worried. I have no doubt evidence of murder will either be conveyed to a prosecutor soon, or it already has been conveyed. We should be taking bets on how soon, not if, someone close to Miscavige will be indicted for murder, or attempted murder, and how soon thereafter they spill the beans on Miscavige.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      touche’

  • April Walsh

    This is kind of OT, but Tory/Magoo uploaded this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEzNikmsj5k

    And I don’t know what to make of it. There’s this “peace-out” feel that makes me think something happened that made her want to stop making vids or speaking out. But maybe I’m worrying for nothing.

    Does anyone know if she’s okay?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      She has posted on her facebook page and I think she is OK. 57 minutes ago.
      Lots going on…she may have just had a “moment”.
      Lot of those going on lately. So much shit happening.

      • April Walsh

        Thanks so much. Just wanted to be sure.

        (also love your Patsy icon)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Thank you very much.
          And thank you for voicing concern about a fellow SP.
          Especially that one.

          • WhereIsSHE

            Never been “in”, but could not adore Tory more. She is so smart and kind and CARING. Wishing her strength, whatever it is that is causing her sorrow.
            Tory– you are adored by so many more than you could possibly know.
            Wishing you all the best, always.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I am so glad you are back WIS!
              I may not have always agreed with you, but man I missed ur input!!!

            • noseinabk

              Ditto.^^^^…

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I hate this. I see a SAD tori…..

      • DeElizabethan

        I have no doubt that Tony will know or find out if something happened and we’ll read it here, or see another vid from Tory to explain. Never saw her so sad. Bummer! Peace Tory!

    • SandiCorrena

      This is very strange! I saw her post recently on SP’s “r” US though and thought she was ok…..Tory?????

    • Sidney18511

      Maybe there was a death in her family? I have never seen my favorite SP looking so, so sad.
      Tory PLEASE let know that your OK. You have everyone very worried.

    • Show Me an Fn Clear

      Please, make up this: A lotta hurt comes from having family and friends involved in an idiotic cult that YOU recognize and others, especially the TV, media, are silent or condescending. [eg: currently Reminini].

      Friends, it is time to move forward. Talking helps; What action can we take forward?

  • SandiCorrena

    If any of you all are on FB on the SP’s ‘r’ US page there have been lots of book images, policies, paycheck stubs, and even photos of a three tall-bunk berthing room (there are like 10 or 13 of them per room) – it’s riveting!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Yeah, i must admit..I have even been enthralled by the shit “Lia Kia”has been posting.

      and with that said…I wanna puke…

      edit: and I will give her credit for being tenacious.

      • SandiCorrena

        She is not afraid! It does make you want to puke though, I agree.

    • Show Me an Fn Clear

      If ya wanna do it. Ya gotta do it fer real.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Damn you off topic god damn bunkerites!
    Now Mr. Nuts and I are having a heated debate about Snowden.

    I will either get a divorce next week…or have makeup sex tonight.

    Either is good!

    Carry on!

    • WhereIsSHE

      I highly recommend the makeup sex.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        🙂 Derp…Done!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          T.M.I.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        WIS…LOL!!!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        WIS.U R not right!!!!!

    • Captain Howdy

      loL don’t blame me. All I did was respond to a comment and ..KERFLOOEY..all hell broke loose.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Fuck U… And I love u too. 😉

        • Captain Howdy

          Well, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Ooh. Svengoolie is on.

          In closing I give you this..and it obviously applies to scientology as well as the global corporate takeover

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vj-CB_vhBU

          • FistOfXenu

            You just gave me another idea Captain. “Svengology”. LRH’s 1st cult with his 1st 2 wives.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Pot, meet kettle.

    • noseinabk

      At least you got to have a conversation. I was stuck with two zombies watching sharknado.

  • DeElizabethan

    I LUV Bonnie and Richard Woods. <3

  • Sherbet

    Gee whiz, what the heck happened here today? No, wait. Don’t anyone tell me. I don’t want to know. Tomorrow will be better. Just call me Pollyanna.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I LIKE 500 comments. I have a chance to actually get through them all AND do yard work. ;-P

      • Sherbet

        I don’t know which is a more strenuous workout, L. Wrong.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Florida. Summer. Sun. Humid. Downpour. Yard work for the win. I did however, get a fantastic new yard tool and have been having a blast playing zombie, ninja training in the back yard. A telescoping pole saw! *refresh*

          • Sherbet

            Ninja tree trimming! Kewl!

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              And here is where I show everyone the ultimate in backyard trimming accessories 😀

              http://www.roninkatana.com/dojopro14.html

              SO. MUCH. FRUIT. FUN. 😀

              Just don’t cut anything with citric acid. Will ruin them quickly.

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        My friend, the optimist,eh?

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Looks like I pissed some people off by not agreeing with their opinion Sherb. But then, my mere existence seems to piss a lot of people off before I even open my mouth, so it’s not like I’m not used to this sort of thing.

      • Sherbet

        Hmmm…I honestly don’t know what went south. Tomorrow is Sunday funnies. Let’s laugh at scientology and not bicker among ourselves.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Piss on em. Some of us like you. Even if you have “funny” ideas about stuff. Just kidding. 😉

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I’m not that low L. Wrong 😉 I think everyone is entitled to have their opinion and to stick by it. As I said somewhere else, I simply have problems with bullies and authority figures. Authority figures I don’t trust, and bullies are just scum of the earth. A step above trolls, but not by much at all.

          Also, if I really did offend anyone I sincerely apologise. I’m socially awkward in the real world as it is. And slightly agoraphobic.

    • Captain Howdy

      Nothing happened. We were breaking in a prospect.

      • Sherbet

        Did he/she pass muster?

        • Captain Howdy

          Yes.

          • Sherbet

            Good. We’re all made of pretty tough stuff. Carry on, Captain.

  • DeElizabethan

    Off topic: “Super Power Building opening: The new Super Building will be opened approximately 1 month before the IAS event.”

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-update-26-july/

    • Espiando

      Notice that Mike’s source didn’t say what year.

      • DeElizabethan

        GOOD one!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Nice catch indeed 😉

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yes, and there were a number of vague yet larger than life sentences, like “Training and Processing” will be moved to the new Flag building (Super Power). ALL training and processing? Really, and this will be done in 4 or 5 weeks time? And if this is the plan, then the “new building” won’t be the Super Power center. And if there’s Still only 200 people training on Super Power, no wait, it Was 600 before wasn’t it? And Super Power is going to be open in September, haha.
        There was way too much in those “notes” Mike posted that seemed a bit bizarro.

        Or is Miscavige that far gone that he thinks it would make the Garcia case go away if throws a lot of slaves and customers and soup cans in the building and hope no one notice it’s not Super Power? He’s already announced this looooong lineup and prerequisites for all to train on and then do. And if he does Anything he can call Super Power, it would be making people run around an orange glo pole. Yeah, that will impress his golden sheep. Not. This really IS a circus.

        • DeElizabethan

          Another GOOD one! I’m getting my sunday laughs on Saturday.
          In 2011 they were all told this same shit about moving all training into that building, except the Coachman was to be strictly for SO members study courses.
          Anyway I will be downtown a lot in the coming weeks and months and watch this circus with others. Can’t wait to hear some more lies, but if he does open up then it is only for the Garcia case, as you say. It won’t make a difference anyway and it shows “he’s” hurtin’.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Oh, thks, De, that’s news to me about plans to move all the training in Super Power. So even two years ago he realized how empty that building would look if he ever opened it. Well, I won’t be making any Super Power Party Invites until I get something more confirmed, but already it sounds like he’s just moving soup cans and inquisition desks across the street. Party pooper!

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              They also are going to need to prove that the Stupor Powerz!(TM) Rundown actually WORKS. Otherwise it’ll look like an enormous waste of time, money, and lives.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              That’s never been a problem in scientology, though. scientologists are The Great Pretenders.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              True dat

            • DeElizabethan

              I got up and back on computer thinking about Tory and what was wrong. Her last was excellent but can’t remember subject.
              Back then at Coachman there was this sweet girl who was for public and her desk got moved out to the entrance area by the door. I felt sorry for her and she told me the story. Also she was thrilled at seeing her new beautiful office and desk in that building, so didn’t mind being put out. That was two years ago and when I heard the rest of the news.

              Yes, they would want their building/tent seen in the movie. Don’t think the city would like it. “He” wishes he could be a star since whatever light ever did shine, is fading fast. It’s still all about the money.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              You make me chuckle all the time THDNE, love ya work 😉

        • tetloj

          The lies just have to get bigger and bigger which means an even greater foot bullet.Can see this turning into another Portland!

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        Does Mike’s source or Mike himself ever stand clear?

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I am expecting some “problems” with delivery or transit of the party tent to be announced. Then they will have to delay.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        and does it make sense to you that the ship is going all the way to Miami instead of other ports on the East Coast?

        • Espiando

          It kinda makes sense in one respect: Miami is the closest port on the Atlantic with an org. The Dark Lord Chuckles The Silly Piggy is so paranoid about everything that he’ll want to have a special Sea Org guard detail accompany the tent to Clearwater. The shorter the distance, the less chance they’ll blow, along with the tent.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I was thinking Jacksonville, but hadn’t thought of the org factor. It’s a long way south to Miami and then trucking all the way Back up to Tampa. At any rate, if it really is the original UK tent, I don’t see it lasting long. And permits are going to also have to be pulled to close down the streets by Flag, tent location and Super Power with all this supposed to be happening in just a matter of 4 to 6 weeks, which would have to be a 24 hour round the clock schedule. And who is going to be doing all the work? Staff that have been on rationed sleep of 4 or 5 hours now going to just stop sleeping? None of this is adding up.

          • DeElizabethan

            Just saw your response on notifications and I just finished writing mine. We do think alike it seems. I’m only a couple hours behind, but then, I was born late too.
            I like your creative writing.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              De, is there any chance he might just take the ship and abscond to international waters?

            • DeElizabethan

              ? My psychic abilities have shut down for the night. Somewhere I read that that ship is not Big ocean able. Licensed or something (maybe fuel). That’s why they only go around the ports they do. Like he can’t take it to Europe. Info is somewhere on it’s history, I believe where I found it.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I don’t think it came from wikipedia, but they have some insight into the ship itself

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds

            • DeElizabethan

              Thanks. Wikipedia page certainly tells a lot and doesn’t line up with photos and write up I read last year. I could have confused it with the Apollo as had interest in that one. I see the scio certainly wrote a lot on that page. Can any ship go international without permission from whomever?

              Hey, am noddin’ off, but is very interesting. I say I wouldn’t put it past “him” to doing Anything.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Neither would I 😉

            • Andrew Robertson

              Just to reassure you De, in case you were worried about the safety of the gallant sailors and the powerful OT’s aboard the ‘Freewinds’ in the pirate infested waters of the Caribbean, but thankfully all is shipshape and Bristol fashion as the vessel steams majestically.towards Kralenduk in Bonaire heading east 108° at a steady 15.6 knots.

              The estimated arrival time is 1045 UTC.

              Andrew

            • DeElizabethan

              Awh shucks, thanks love, I was worried sick. Seems I should to go to wwp to watch that, eh? They have a neat page but haven’t seen it in quite awhile.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              No I think they need to put in a navigation plan to coast guards and the like to be approved to leave harbour, but I am by no way a master mariner like Hubtard was, so I might be wrong.

        • DeElizabethan

          If the shore story is true I could think it maybe since Miami org is there and they can fester up more help to Guard the thing. I’m sure they might think it could be sabotaged in some way with his high paranoia.

    • Sherbet

      I love the way cos makes diminished expectations (with diminished members) sound like it’s an advantage to be bragged about: Great news! We have an empty refrigerator box to hold the last remaining member of the church! So compact yet roomy, and ready to move at a moment’s notice! Are we clever or what!

      • Sherbet

        A down vote? A DOWN VOTE?? Who checked their sense of humor at the door of the Bunker?

        • noseinabk

          Sorry Sherb. My tablet is pts.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I do that on when I’m on my tab too.

  • SandiCorrena

    she’s ok, Tory’s is ok!!!!!!!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      tks for letting us know.

      • SandiCorrena

        She’s having trouble with her video manager (I don’t even know what that is) and got an error 500 – she was working on it the other night and did the little test video which she didn’t think went through. If anyone knows about those things give her a shout! She posted a video on Sp’s “r” US if you want to see her sunshiny smile!

  • media_lush

    OFF-TOPIC
    for my other blog I was wondering if someone outside the UK could do me a favour …. could they go to this page http://gawker.com/did-rebekah-brooks-fuck-rupert-murdoch-and-his-son-lach-926651851 and take a screen grab of the text [I already have the pic] and email it to media_lush@hotmail.com as it’s already blocked in the UK [lulz] …. as my proxy thing is playing up … TIA

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      On it, gimme 2

      • media_lush

        cheers… this is what you get when you click the link in the UK…. [never seen that particular one before]

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Da fuk? That IS new :-S

        • Nevermore

          Yeah, that’s what I got when I clicked on the link – what are those bastards up to now??

          • Robert Eckert

            It’s Gawker having fun with its UK friends; they are internally blocking that page from being viewed in the UK to avoid the legal threats.

      • media_lush

        many thanks…. just got them; I owe you a beer!!

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I don’t drink, thank you anyway, but I’ll take a coffee 😉

          • media_lush

            double mocha latte…. this is going to cause a lulzy shitstorm in the UK, thanks again!

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Make it a strong cappuccino wit a raw sugar 😉 and no problems 😀

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      Done 😉

    • DeElizabethan

      I can’t take a screen grab but I did read the article. Quite a scandal, wow.

    • 0tessa

      I’ve read it. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this is true, or at least partly. I see it has already been emailed to you. Do you guys have censorship in the UK? I hope not. But as Cameron is most probably involved, who knows …

  • SandiCorrena

    They’re all just making CO$ look so stupid! (And this one better not be directed at Leah!) She retweets most of Krusty’s garbage too. I wonder if they’re writing knowledge reports on each other too?

    Melinda Brownstone‏@minmin100826 Jul

    Ding dong the witch is dead the wicked witch is dead, dead, dead!

  • George Layton

    Not sure if someone hasn’t already posted this but won’t hurt to re-post I’m sure. Tory is fine.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGZgJPc2N4M&feature=c4-overview&list=UU__gcXYVQlmVocNLZykibUw

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks. I was a bit concerned only because I had heard about her car mirror being broken the oher day. Magoo….Sam’s Club has a special on “OSA Dirty Tricks Night Vision Surveillance Monitors”. Okay, they don’t Actually call it that. But he can get relatively inexpensive systems these days that will record even day or night, with several cameras and expandable to add more. At least get one to monitor your car and your front door. Hope you get IT help out in L.A. with the vid manager stuff soon. Your videos are important and so effective.

    • April Walsh

      She replied to me on youtube as well. LOL. It was just a computer glitch. But. boy, that 4 second video seemed eerie at the moment. LOL.

      • q-bird

        thank you for this April – I am much relieved.

  • Electronic Incident

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Scientology was actually an experiment by the CIA and its evil psychs to study various mind control techniques and generate income for black ops? I mean, could Hubbard have been so clever as to create an Orwellian system wherein members beg, borrow, steal, and sacrifice their children for the chance to be enslaved by it? Evil enough, yes; but clever enough? (“I never had a second wife.”) Not sure.
    Co$ members pay handsomely for the enslavement of their minds and bodies while genuinely believing it is freedom. They view Scientology as humanity’s only hope at stopping the establishment of a 1984/Brave New World system. They are incapable of recognizing that they have already submitted to such a system, where Freedom is Slavery, where they have learned to love their servitude.
    As the crimes of Co$ become more and more heinous, widespread, and can absolutely be proven, and the US government still fails to take any action to prosecute or even stop them, the less farfetched such a possibility seems. Religious protections only go so far in explaining why the cult is allowed to imprison its “clergy,” exploit child labor, etc. That the “church” has its own rather powerful intelligence agency is, well, interesting. Where did OSA learn such sophisticated tactics?
    Imagine if evil psychs actually were the root cause of the problems Scientologists face! Whereas efforts to expose psychiatric abuses are primarily associated with Co$, valid criticisms of historical abuses and the potential ways psychiatry can be used abusively will come to be dismissed as kooky Xenu talk. Thus, by fighting evil psychs, Co$ ultimately aids and abets evil psychs! This would be sufficiently weird, and since Co$ is always weirder and worse than you think possible, I can’t discount the possibility.
    Lest I be branded a wacky paranoid by this, my very first post at the Bunker, I am not saying that this *is* the case. However, the more I learn about Hubbard, the more I question whether he could have been capable of devising such an effective, comprehensive totalitarian system of mind control. The more I learn about Scientology’s abuses and criminal behavior from its inception through the present, the more I question whether religious status, bribery, etc. could sufficiently explain the government’s refusal to act. The way I see it, this theory is no more ludicrous than anything else Scientological and could potentially fit together enough pieces of an otherwise incomprehensible puzzle that I think it’s worth at least considering.
    I’ve been reading Black Rob’s thread at WWP of Scilon FB screenshots and it seems to me that turning brains to this texture and consistency of mush while still enabling a subject to function (insofar as capability to acquire cash for “donations”) requires the skill of professionals. I don’t know, but where Scientology is concerned, truly nothing is too absurd or outlandish to be true.

    • q-bird

      interesting theory EI. Oh – “the horror”!

      welcome to the Bunker, btw, you been lurkin’ long?

      • Electronic Incident

        Thank you kindly for the welcome! I’ve been paying attention to/researching Scientology for a few years now and followed Tony’s work since he was at the Village Voice, but have really been reading the comments here obsessively for the past few weeks given all that’s been happening.

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      That is an idea that is genuinely disturbing, to say the least………. But well thought out, too.

      • Electronic Incident

        Thanks! You never do know. The establishment/early development of Dianetics/Scientology did coincide with the period during which “research” programs such as MKULTRA were in rather widespread use, so it does lead one to wonder. It’s not too much of a stretch that “researchers” would be interested in mass mind control as well as mind control of individuals.

    • media_lush

      but how does Kirstie the Hutt fit in this theory?

      • Electronic Incident

        I’m not sure yet how to fit her into *this* theory (or a pair of Pajama Jeans for that matter) but I’m currently working with the hunch that she IS Target II and is thus infested with the Biggest Being the guhlaxee has ever seen. While she may appear “insane”, this is merely due to the fact that she would need to spend the next Billion Years in the sauna sweating out pinks and greys from Source’s time track to rid her numerous fat cells of toxins.

      • Nevermore

        I watched all of North & South Book 1 on the telly yesterday – I suspect that Kirstie turned into Virgilia Hazard back then, and is still trapped in that persona!

    • Nevermore

      I like the idea, but if it was CIA black ops, wouldn’t the {church} be run better??

      • Electronic Incident

        Lol, perhaps! Maybe they got all they needed out of it and no longer care. 😉

    • Hartley Patterson

      This scenario has been proposed before. Search for ‘Ralf Dorian Scientology’ and you will find much discussion of it as part of a strange episode a decade ago: “Dorian” (a pseudonym) claimed to be an ex-government spook who knew that Hubbard had been the front man for an experiment in mind control.
      It made sense to conspiracy theorists and to those who didn’t think LRH could have come up with Scientology all on his own, though not to anyone else.

      • Electronic Incident

        Fair enough, but it’s not as if there isn’t evidence of mind control experimentation taking place at that time. Specific to Scientology, yes, it’s only a theory, but conspiracies to carry out mind control research were factually taking place during that period. We know much of what was being done at the individual level, much less about studies at the mass level, but surely there was interest in cult control. I’m not saying it was or wasn’t the case, but I don’t think it’s so implausible as to be entirely dismissed as tinfoil hattery.

    • Eddie Vroom

      If this were true, Hubbard wouldn’t have to be smart. He’d simply have to be a good enough actor to serve as figurehead, and a collabrative effort would be behind the thing.

  • media_lush

    little thing just popped up…. William S. Burroughs Exposes Scientology To Allen Ginsberg

    http://www.booktryst.com/2013/07/william-s-burroughs-exposes-scientology.html

  • media_lush

    Final question before I hit the sack… it’s well documented that Tommy Girl has had loads of gifts from Tiny Fists made by some of the more talented people [many who have since left] from the cult and his many residences are [continually?] staffed by sea borg-drones but I wonder if this largesse is extended to any of the other celebs? … does Travolta have a burlwood pen or custom sound system supplied by the church…. Nancy Cartwright… does she pay scale for a cleaner or considerably less for a poor Sea Org sap?

  • dbloch7986

    ” and, as Gerry Armstrong once said to me, half a life time ago, “Too long alone have I borne this burden. You share it with me now.””

    Ron’s Journal 67 — The ultimate in Sea Org recruitment tapes haha