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Claire and Bruce Take Us Into the Bizarre World of Scientology’s Operating Thetan Two!

How many trillions of years back can you go?

How many trillions of years back can you go?

Claire Headley is taking us on our journey to train as Scientologists. She and her husband Marc were Sea Org workers who escaped from Scientology’s International Base in 2005. She spent years working with Scientology’s “tech,” and was trusted to oversee the auditing of Tom Cruise. Go here to see the first part in this series.

Once again, Bruce Hines joins us this week as Claire continues to take us through Scientology’s legendary “OT” levels. And today, we’re beginning Operating Thetan Level Two, which Bruce last week promised us would be “bizarre.” Is that true, Claire?

CLAIRE: OT 2 was absolutely the most complicated, esoteric, and ethereal level I experienced in Scientology. And I do believe that’s saying something!

THE BUNKER: That does seem to be saying a lot. Well, let’s get to it! There’s a ton of material to go through in OT 2, and it starts off with a statement by L. Ron Hubbard that this level will be approached first with a study of course data, and then with auditing. If we’re not incorrect, that’s the method that the OT levels will have from now on, isn’t that true?

BRUCE: With the exception of the current OT 4 (or “New OT IV”), all of the existing OT levels involve first studying the theory and doing some drills (practice), and then doing the actual solo auditing.

THE BUNKER: So in this case, what is the course data about? Hubbard says it should only take us three hours to get through. And we start out with some review, which seems pretty standard. There’s the usual Keep Scientology Working drill, for example.

But then we get to the really interesting stuff — our Whole Track!

Hubbard believed that we are immortal beings he called “thetans,” and although we may no longer be aware of it, we’ve actually existed for unthinkably immense periods of time. We begin to recover knowledge of our real selves as we remove the “reactive mind” until we become “clear,” which happened a few levels ago. Now, we can really begin auditing way down our “whole track” of existence. And as we do so, we’ll bump into things along the way.

BRUCE: Those things we’re bumping into are whole track “implants” that all beings on earth supposedly received. Implants are extremely intense thought-control incidents that we all were subjected to, in which post-hypnotic commands or situations designed to confuse one’s sense of space or time are given to the hapless victim, under overwhelming duress (like explosions, pain and drugs, or whatever). It was the evil psychs who did this, millions or billions or trillions or quadrillions of years ago.

THE BUNKER: Ah yes, the evil psychs. Although psychiatry has existed for scarcely more than a century, L. Ron Hubbard imagined that psychiatrists have been ruining things all over the universe since the misty reaches of deep time.

BRUCE: These implants in turn installed “GPMs,” which stands for “goals problem mass.” One can think of this as two ideas of equal force that are opposed to each other, sort of hanging in balance in the being’s mind forever, until audited out. Because these ideas or intentions are opposed, mass is created in the being’s mind. And they persist into the future much like a post-hypnotic suggestion. The purpose of the implanting was to get the being, who natively had god-like abilities, to be confused, sort of hypnotized, to use their native power against themselves, to be unaware, kind of unconscious, and to have much reduced power. Then they are controllable.

THE BUNKER: OK, so let us make sure we have this right. We are unspeakably ancient spirit-beings, and way back in our pasts the evil psychs have implanted these land mines in us that prevent us from using our superhuman, godlike natural abilities until we can track down those land mines and remove them, through auditing. Whew. That’s really something.

CLAIRE: I’ve always considered myself a practical person. So for me, this level was simply off the deep end. I could see the theoretical value in most of the things that we’ve talked about up until this point — subjects like communication, upsets in life, people you’ve had trouble with, etc. Well, OT 2 lost all touch with reality for me. I mean, let’s be honest, this is pretty far out there, no matter who you are. In fact, I’ve actually never discussed my OT 2 experiences or the materials with anyone, but I’ve certainly thought about my experiences in hindsight.

Besides the esoteric nature of the material, another startling thing about OT 2 for me was that up to now, auditing was all about “don’t evaluate for the preclear or tell him what to think about his case.” In other words, the subject isn’t told what’s in his or her past. But now, that’s all down the drain, since you’re asked to accept all these whole track incidents that, when they’re dealt with, will lead to all kinds of OT abilities. But you can’t actually show anyone those abilities even when you acquire them, because that would be “out reality.” To me, it was more about the emperor’s new clothes than anything that was going to alter my eternity.

THE BUNKER: Well, let’s get into the names for these “GPMs,” or incidents, or evil psych booby-traps that are lying way back in our past. We’ll list just a few of them.

There’s the “Electrical” GPM, which Hubbard tells us is so far back in our whole track, we may run into it 210 million trillion years ago.

And there’s the “Big Being” GPM (16,780 trillion), the “House” GPM (40,029 trillion), the “Banky” GPM (217 trillion), and the “Forerunner” GPM (222 trillion), just to name a few.

BRUCE: I had mixed feelings about those huge dates. On the one hand, I knew from books like A History of Man and other writings and lectures from Hubbard that huge dates were common in the history of us and all existence.

On the other hand, I had completed most of a physics degree by that time, and knew that astrophysicists said the age of the universe was nothing like that. (Today, the best estimate is about 13.8 billion years.) I was doing my best to convince myself that the scientists had it all wrong. Also, the difference between huge numbers like a thousand trillion and a few billion tends to lose significance — it’s hard to conceptualize numbers that big. Add to that the need and desire to believe that Hubbard had it all figured out (cognitive dissonance), since that would mean a heaven-like existence for one and all. Plus, I was pretty overwhelmed trying to grasp the meaning of the materials and the procedure I was supposed to be following, the dates kind of went over my head. Then mix in things I dreamed up to try to make sense of it, like maybe time had changed its rate of passage somewhere along the line, or there were multiple universes. It was just another far-out thing that Hubbard said that was beyond my comprehension, or it must be that man’s understanding of the universe was way off. Having said all that, I guess I shoved it into the “things I’ll be able to understand later after I have gone up the OT levels” compartment.

CLAIRE: I agree with Bruce. The dates were really way too large to even comprehend the reality of. By this point, my views were that I must be the only one who had trouble understanding the complexities of this. And the fear of “not making it” was there too. I figured I just had to plow through no matter what, especially since I was expected to get through fast for my position in RTC at the time.

THE BUNKER: Both of you have really helped us understand how you confronted this strange material. Next week, we’ll go on to the actual auditing questions in OT 2. The strangeness only deepens.

 
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Laura DeCrescenzo Gets a Trial Date

After fending off Scientology’s motion for summary judgment, Laura DeCrescenzo this week found out when her 2009 lawsuit will finally go to trial.

The date: February 23, 2015.

Yes, more than a year away. Whew. The wheels of justice sure turn slowly in this country.

 
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Leah Remini and Barbara Walters Discuss Scientology

On Monday night, Leah Remini’s remarkable run on Dancing With The Stars finally came to an end, and yesterday she and dancer Tony Dovolani made an appearance on The View.

Considering Barbara Walters’s previous comments about Scientology, this made for a pretty interesting encounter. But Walters brought up Scientology herself, and seemed both solicitous and sympathetic to the King of Queens actress.

 
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Dovolani began the segment with a surprise: He revealed that Remini had fractured a rib in week five of the show. Remini had never complained about it publicly. But then Barbara asked her about her other struggle.

Barbara: You went through another journey, and you’ve been open about leaving the Church of Scientology. Have there been repercussions at all?

Leah: Yes, many repercussions. But I think the one that I think people couldn’t relate to is the shunning. Because I don’t think everybody knows that that’s what is required when you leave, that friends and family members, mothers and daughters, that is what is required, and so that is heartbreaking…

Barbara: That you can no longer have relations with…

Leah: They can no longer have relationships with me, my family, so I don’t get to see my godkids, friends that I’ve known for 30-40 years…

 
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Tony: But you have new ones now.

Leah: I have new friends, which is why Dancing With The Stars

Barbara: That’s tough. That’s tough to face. And it’s brave of you to talk about it.

Leah: It is tough. Yeah, because, you know I think people become immune to it because they’re raised in something like this. They think it’s normal. It’s not normal to break up a family. It’s not normal to tell people who they can and cannot talk to because of their beliefs or non-beliefs. Because family is who’s going to be there for you at the end of the day. And Tony really helped me through this and Dancing With The Stars came at the right time for me, because I was going through that and then I have now new friends and new family.

 
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Karen de la Carriere on Scientology’s Legal Tactics

Another fun video from Karen, J. Swift, and Angry Gay Pope…

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 20, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for Nov. 20: *refresh for image*

    Tony: US rank #12,611 – down 29 from yesterday.
    Scientology: US rank #41,271 – up 594 from yesterday.

    Difference: 28,660 – 623 less than yesterday.

  • Ruby

    Tony, thank you so much for keeping the Bunker as active as ever. I’m sure with your new position at RawStory it has been a juggle and I just want to say how much I appreciate what you do.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    From OT2: “The purpose of the implanting was to get the being, who natively had god-like abilities, to be confused, sort of hypnotized, to use their native power against themselves, to be unaware, kind of unconscious, and to have much reduced power. Then they are controllable.”

    Isn’t this exactly what the cherch [sic] does to people??? They implant you with Scientology to make you confused, hypnotized, kind of unconcious and controllable!

    This must be some kind of reverse psychology!

    • Great White Clam

      t tek.

  • BlueJene

    “Implants are extremely intense thought-control incidents that we all
    were subjected to, in which post-hypnotic commands or situations
    designed to confuse one’s sense of space or time are given to the
    hapless victim, under overwhelming duress”. Wait…I thought scientology was supposed to be getting rid of those? They sound exactly like what they are doing to the hapless victims of their cult.

    • OrangySky

      Arnie Lerma has a short item on his site where the guy who invented the e-Meter pretty much says this is what Hubbard does – he first tells you how bad and dangerous hypnotism is, earning your confidence and trust, at the same time he’s basically hypnotizing you.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      Oh my god. I have definitely been confused, sort of hypnotized, and had my thoughts controlled by implants. I think I may have fallen into the cult.

    • MaxSpaceman

      $cientology Inc. **is** supposed to be getting rid of those implants and setting the member straight up and vertical !!

  • TXCowgirl

    “Going Clear” and Lawrence Write did not bring home the big prize tonight. The fact that he was on the final list, getting the story of Scientology into the main stream and into the hands of those would not have otherwise picked up tome about a crazy cult, Is a job very well done. Cheers to you, Lawrence! We are very proud to have you on our team.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/national-book-award-winners-2013_n_4311758.html

    • Hobson’sChoice

      Cheers and clink/clink of glasses!

      • Casabeca

        Clink!

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT2 and the rest of the Bridge to Total Totalled. L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. On his father Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, Sr. 1982

    Scientology is a power-and-money-and-intelligence-gathering game. To use common, everyday English, Scientology says that you and I and everybody else willed ourselves into being hundreds of trillions of years ago –just by deciding to be. We willed ourselves into being ourselves. Through wild space games, interaction, fights, and wars in the grand science-fiction tradition, we created this universe –all the matter, energy, space, and time of this universe. And so through these trillions of years, we have become the effect of our own cause and we now find ourselves trapped in bodies. So the idea of Scientology “auditing” or “counseling” or “processing” is to free yourself from your body and to return you to the original godlike state or, in Scientology jargon, an operating Thetan –O.T.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Did you see this article in Huff Post? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/20/church-of-scientology-chr_n_4307353.html
    Christians Hit Back As Church Of Scientology’s $145m New ‘Cathedral’ Opens ”
    – needs some comments, I am headed over there now to comment if I can do so anonymously.

    • Sarah James

      Robert is fending off the scibots on his own and doing very well. My post may not make it, maybe it’s something I said, but hey its truthful.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I tried but it only lets me post via FB, google+, etc – there seems to be no way to be anonymous (unless one is way more clever with the internet than I am) and I don’t want to get linked to my real name. Oh well.

        • Sarah James

          They are not letting my post clear ( pun intended.) Anyone interested in going over and helping Robert out? I smell trolls.

          • Robert Eckert

            On HuffPo, most of the people taking the line “all religions are equally crazy” are likely to be genuine Angry Atheists rather than OSA pretenders. There isn’t much point engaging the Atheists. I took on mister “I’m not a Scientologist but…” for obvious reasons, and did feel the need to correct that crowd count.

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s pretty hard to defend against the one pastor’s obvious hypocrisy.

            • Robert Eckert

              The pastor focusing on the unbelievability of the story, rather than on unconscionability of the actions, is such an inviting target that I cannot blame anyone taking potshots.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I was going to reply to him, but then I read your response. Could not have said it any better.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Thank you Robert! I loved your posts over there.

            • OrangySky

              You did great, Robert. Wish I could’ve posted but it would not let me without my real identity.

        • TXCowgirl

          I don’t blame your caution one bit.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Would like to know as a public service who is in the 2nd row, the 3rd row and the 4th row. Just for the record.

    • Ruby

      I don’t recognize anyone there. I do know many in the first row.
      Ps…but I bet they have a lot of money.

      • OrangySky

        Is the guy with the sunglasses in the second row Tommy Davis? Doesn’t seem so, but there is somewhat of a resemblance.

        • Captain Howdy

          It could be tommy with a new haircut and maybe that’s jessica next to the old man

          • SandiCorrena

            Oh I hope that’s not Jessica; but is Tommy that tall?

        • Ruby

          I know. It does look like him but I am not sure. And if it is, why isn’t his wife with him? Oh wait…The only wives that matter are the “I know every square inch of his body” wives.

          • OrangySky

            John P has been speculating about the Tommy in LA/ Jessica in Austin situation. What does it mean? Could it be that Tommy is just in LA for his job….or is there trouble in 2-D paradise?

            There were a lot of Feschbachs there….but no Jessica?

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            Where’s Shelly?

            • GlibWog

              We aren’t buying it!

        • Captain Howdy

          The more I look at it the more I’m sure it is TD. I’m surprised no one else has pointed it out.

          • Sherbet

            I don’t see it. Plus, isn’t Davis shorter? This guy looks too casual and sort of sloppy.

          • GlibWog

            Not seeing it Captain.. He is taller.. ears stick out more. Resemblance, but not him.

        • TXCowgirl

          It’s a “Tommy Twin” that lil’ Davey hired as a stand-in for crowd photos.

    • SandiCorrena

      I feel concerned for the girl in the 2nd row behind Kelly Preston; she’s so thin which makes me think of Mike Rinder when he was let out of the hole to mess with John Sweeney-I hope she hasn’t been in the hole. It looks like perfunctory clapping to me; not the OMG this is the greatest moment in 75 trillion years thanks to COB clapping some of them were raving about.

      • IASREG

        How about the zombie in the fourth row to the right? Is that Death?

      • OrangySky

        Anyone know who she is?

        BTW, Lou has terrible taste in clothes. What an awful dress, in an awful color. Looks like H&M off the rack.

        When your secret illicit lover has all the money in the world, you can at least show a little style. Shelly has some style.

        • SandiCorrena

          I was very surprised by Lou’s fashion choice too; someone suggested yesterday that maybe it was chosen to match Davey’s tie? As essential as she is to the head idiot and as well dressed as he is I just expected something better-which makes me wonder since he’s married is she not supposed to appear “favored”?

          • Robert Eckert

            She may also be out of favor. There were some people asking a while back if she might be in the Hole or something since she had not been out trolling the boards in a long time.

            • SandiCorrena

              That’s a good point but she was still in the front row and she looks pretty healthy; I noticed from one of the other shots that her planner was under her chair. I wonder if she was documenting every utterance?

            • Robert Eckert

              We need some of the expertise of the old-school Kremlinologists who could read all the political nuances from who-stands-where-at-the-Mayday-rally. The affair, if there was an affair, looks to be over, but she is certainly back on duty.

            • OrangySky

              I heard that. However she was right there in the front row – looking a bit gaunt with a bad hair day, but out in front.

              Perhaps he has learned his lesson about ‘disappearing’ your women?

          • Sherbet

            Why start playing discreet now? If the two have been seen canoodling in one way or another, there’s no reason to pretend, “I’m just some frumpy church person over here; pay no attention to me.”

          • OrangySky

            Well, she IS right on the edge of the front row with the celebs. Talk about appearing “Favored”.

            • SandiCorrena

              well he could “need” his essential communicator nearby for essential work related communications and then cast her off so she doesn’t appear favored…

            • Sherbet

              That’s so she can help fold up the chairs when the tours begin.

        • Sherbet

          That dress has style. Rather, it did when Rosalyn Carter wore it during her husband’s administration.

          • SandiCorrena

            I knew I seen it before! lol

            • Sherbet

              The Inauguration!

          • TXCowgirl

            No wonder Jimmy Cater “looked on many women with lust.”

            • OrangySky

              Now, now. Ros was the love of his life. And she was cute, too.

              Jimmy Carter was just being honest. Which is one reason why he failed miserably as President, tragically.

            • TXCowgirl

              I was being fun and flippant with my comment. I completely agree with you that she was his love. He was being, unbeknownst to him, sacrificially honest in his response. Too bad it was during a Playboy interview, which only magnified the statement.

              Rosalyn was a lovely woman. My mother interviewed Ros for a book Mom was penning while I was in high school. Mrs. Carter was always gracious in my presence.

          • GlibWog

            Sherbet.. Hilarious.. hahhhaha ..

        • TXCowgirl

          Does the 5th floor of the SP building have a perceptics contraption for fashion sense? Lou should be the test patient.

        • InterestedinCrazy

          She looks like a Mormon at a wedding. I don’t get it, for a guy who is that power hungry, you’d think he’d get a nice trophy woman?

        • D.Y.G.

          It’s a cheap 80’s Chanel knockoff.

          • Candygram

            drat. i actually like that jacket. slowly closing the door to my wardrobe in embarrassment.

            • D.Y.G.

              Vintage Chanel is always good! Cheap knockoffs, not so much.

      • Sherbet

        Did you ever see the “Katie Holmes in the front row perfunctory and reluctant clapping” during some scn event? Maybe someone has the link. While the audience is on its feet banging their hands together with gusto, it’s so obvious Katie thinks the whole thing is a crock.

        • SandiCorrena

          Yes I did; it was the first fluttering of hope wasn’t it?!

          • Sherbet

            And Katie didn’t disappoint. The Stepford Wife came through with a big fat nose-thumbing at TC and the “church.”

      • Great White Clam

        A diet of rice and beans and HARD LABOR will do that to a thetan!

        Vitamins from licking bathroom floors are a bonus.

        Just saying.

        • OrangySky

          That woman could not possibly be Sea Org!

          • Sherbet

            I think I’ll start a rumor that Anderson Cooper was in the third row. (White-haired guy sans jacket.)

      • Sherbet

        Who, the one with the long hair and glasses? She does look transfixed by cob.

        • SandiCorrena

          Yep, that’s the one!

          • Sherbet

            You’re right. She’s having a spiritual moment for sure!

            Fourth row, far right, woman (?) leaning forward. She looks like she’s bent over with laughter.

            • SandiCorrena

              …..or she’s having a PBA episode; have you seen those commercials (uncontrollable laughter or tears) – I hope not but that’s what I thought of.

            • Sherbet

              She’s old, and old people don’t usually put up with BS. I think she’s doubled over in hysterics at the whole idea of Super Power. Not really, but it’s fun to put thoughts with all these whales and meat bodies.

        • Great White Clam

          Lil dave has nothing with witch to transfix her on.

          • Sherbet

            Maybe she’s saying, “Only 8 minutes? Amen to that, brother!”

        • SandiCorrena

          Pretty soon she’ll be called by COB and asked if she can take dictation!

          • Sherbet

            Oh, is that what he calls it! With Lou, it was “communication.” With blue dress woman, it’s “dictation.”

            • SandiCorrena

              you know someone who can take short hand; or does he have that covered already?

            • Sherbet

              Oh, gosh, you have me LOLing. You win, Sandi.

            • jeff

              Short hands, short ____.

            • Charlotte

              gloves

            • Sherbet

              cake

      • TXCowgirl

        I think she’s been on the running track for a few laps too long. Can’t Kelly slip her a “wafer-thin mint?”

        • TXCowgirl

          “A wafer-thin mint.” Anyone, Anyone? Name the movie. Anyone?

          • Graham

            A waffer-thin mint surely?

            • TXCowgirl

              Oh, sir, it’s only a tiny, little, thin one.

            • TXCowgirl

              Graham, I’d sent you a blue ribbon if I could.

    • jeff

      What’s with the guy in the white undershiirt? Kind of out of place there, maybe IASREG took the shirt off his back.

      • Sherbet

        LOL. I was guessing it was silk, and he’s got some Sonny Crockett thing going on.

        • GlibWog

          He is Too Cool for School.. Damn don’t you guys know he is trying to make a Fashion Statement.. ? ( Or he’s an extra and didn’t get the dress code)

          Hey everyone.. Joining the party..

          • TXCowgirl

            He missed LRH’s fifth floor Fashion Perceptic.

            • jeff

              Otherwise, he’d have been wearing a cravat.

            • TXCowgirl

              A-Hahahahahaha! Yes, Mr. Jeff, indeed!

            • GlibWog

              You know I went back to look.. He looks like a Body Guard Goon..I bet you anything.. His stance .. ready to Pounce.. If DM wore a Bullet proof vest at Portland..

              You know he is going to be protected.. Paranoia rampant ..

            • TXCowgirl

              And paranoia is what will drive him to a fault.

            • TXCowgirl

              Do you think dm entertains the thought of being a martyr? He’s toooooo narcissistic, right?

            • GlibWog

              No, but there are many who wish he entertained the thought.. ( hahah)

              Never in a million years ! He is Pure Coward .. 100%

            • TXCowgirl

              A little bity tiny coward runt of a man.

          • TXCowgirl

            Too cool for school! I can’t believe I used to say that with a straight face way back when. Thanks for the smile, Baby.

            • GlibWog

              xo anytime sweetie pie..

            • OrangySky

              I think “too hip for the room” is an appropriate contemporary substitute.

            • TXCowgirl

              My kids would say aloud that I’m not hip enough for the room….and then on the sly tell me I’m the hippest of the moms. Can’t win, can’t lose. I can live with that. 🙂

      • SandiCorrena

        IKR! I would expect for these front 5 to 10 rows to see nothing but evidence of affluence; there’s some a few but otherwise it’s not as obvious as I expected.

        • jeff

          at least put on a button-down shirt, if not a tie.

        • MaxSpaceman

          All those people regardless how they’re dressed *have to be* whales.
          I’m thinkin’.

          • Sherbet

            Definitely. cob’s church offers a better class of eternity to people with money, hence the honor of sitting in the front rows.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        They didn’t take his shirt, that’s ridiculous. He just can’t afford dry cleaning anymore.

        • jeff

          Well I thought the metaphorical crossed into the literal.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Seems *way out of place* to these eyeballs from space.

        • jeff

          You remind me of Maxwell Demon from Velvet Goldmine (one of my favorite movies).

          • MaxSpaceman

            Thanks for the tip! I missed that one.
            The Velvet Goldmine starring Ewan McGregor, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Christian Bale
            “A decade after British glam-rocker Brian Slade fakes his assassination on stage and disappears from view, tabloid journalist Arthur Stuart is dispatched to deconstruct the legend….”

            • jeff

              Brian Slade’s alter ego is Maxwell Demon, much like David Bowie’s was Ziggy Stardust.

      • OrangySky

        Security?

        • jeff

          Well when the Secret Service is in close proximity of the President (and you know Bill Clinton met COB, not the other way around), they tend to appear in suit and tie. When they’re in Columbia, however…

          • OrangySky

            Good one.

            • jeff

              *blush*

    • Sherbet

      I feel bad for the two bored kids in the second row. If SP had been opened two years earlier, Suri could have sat with them.

    • tetloj

      The guy straight behind TC was id’d as an Israeli whale on ESMB

      • MaxSpaceman

        Mark that – 1 Israeli whale. Got it.

  • Great White Clam

    Fu(k those fu(kers. All of them.

    Hunh.!

    • Sherbet

      What set you off, Mighty Mollusk?

      • Great White Clam

        Rough seas, fruity milky…
        lol

        • Sherbet

          Clam down. I mean, calm down.

          • Great White Clam

            OK

            I’ll clam down!

            ‘nuf said

            • Great White Clam

              Lol Lrh did Histry of man

              It sucked.

              SUCKED

            • Sydjazz

              I found a copy online and couldn’t understand it. Great for my insomia though

          • jeff

            I think the saying is clam up.

            • Great White Clam

              That too!!

            • Great White Clam

              I due lament the loss of dentition…

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    Disqus staff sent out a message about a contest they’re running that ends tomorrow at 6:00PM PST. Maybe some of the talented shoopsters that gather here want to take a shot at winning the trophy. If not, it could still be great to see what people would come up with.

    http://blog.disqus.com/post/67490267136/words-not-required-embedded-rich-media

    • Snippy_X

      I don’t understand coveting this random virtual trophy. It seems like just another corporate brainwashing scheme to get them free advertising.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Yeah, the trophy may be bullshit, but that wasn’t really my point. I just thought it would be fun if some of the creative people were aware of a contest and so maybe extra fun and lulz could be had tomorrow.

        • OrangySky

          It may get attention to this blog from “wogs” who have not yet realized that Scientology is always worse than you think!

  • Straight Diet of Kerbango
  • Great White Clam

    I couldn’t say that, either

  • Great White Clam

    Clams!

    shedding clams…..

  • Charlotte

    The DM is trying to pretend that TC wants KH back in time for Christmas and that when they met up to discuss Suri’s schooling, they did ‘what lots of exes do when they’re alone together’. Oh, Katie. As if. She’s still being used to sell the idea of TC being some sort of stud muffin. And ‘normal’. None of the comments were buying it.

    • Straight Diet of Kerbango

      DM?

      • Charlotte

        Daily Mail. Didn’t think about the Davey McSavage angle, sorry.

        • Straight Diet of Kerbango

          That article was ridiculous.

          • Charlotte

            Indeed.

    • OrangySky

      Damage control from the Super Power photo op.

    • KJP in Portland

      My experience when my ex and I are alone together is NOT what they’re implying above. We sit at opposite ends of the room 🙂

      • Charlotte

        I will go so far as to say there is no way what was implied happened between TC and KH. I doubt they were ever even in the same room together, much less alone.

  • KJP in Portland

    Oh hai!

    • Sydjazz

      Hi kjp

  • Sydjazz

    Omg woohoo leah. Sock it to barbara. Xx

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just watched the video from Karen, J. Swift, and Angry Gay Pope above.
    Some really, really good points, like having to have actual board in relation to IRS, etc.

    Leah and Tony’s appearance on The View is great!
    The fact that Leah also landed a key role in The Exes TV show is a bonus!

    Laura DeCrescenzo Gets a Trial Date – February 23, 2015. Major WTF?!
    Can Scott or any lawyer explain what’s up with that? Such bullshit.

  • tetloj

    Can’t see this posted here (but can’t believe it would have been overlooked) – apols if it’s a double up.

    Copied from JB Writer’s post at ESMB

    Fresh from Deadline… link here: http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/leah…-as-recurring/

    The show, The Exes, is on cable television’s TVLand channel.

    EXCLUSIVE: Following her stint on Dancing With The Stars, Leah Remini is returning to TV comedy with a multi-episode arc on TV Land’s The Exes. The King Of Queens alumna will play Stuart’s (David Alan Basche)
    sister Nicki — a tough-talking, no-nonsense, stylish and sexy woman
    from Staten Island whose 17-year marriage ends when she finds out her
    policeman husband had an affair.

    Nicki retreats to Manhattan to seek the comfort of her brother, only to
    find out he’s sharing an apartment with two guys, Phil (Donald Faison) and Haskell (Wayne Knight), and living next door to his divorce attorney Holly (Kristen Johnston).

    Unable and unwilling to keep her opinions to herself, she turns all
    their lives upside down as she tries to put her life back together and
    make a new future for herself in Manhattan.

    This marks Remini’s return to multi-camera sitcoms six years after her CBS hit, The King Of Queens, ended its run. Since then, she starred in ABC’s single-camera comedy series In The Motherhood and Family Tools, co-hosted CBS’ The Talk and most recently reached the semifinals on ABC’s Dancing With The Stars. She is repped by APA and Gendler & Kelly.

    The Exes, coming off its highest-rated season in adults
    25-54 this past summer, up 21% in total viewers, returns with new
    episodes on December 11.

    • Charlotte

      Great!

      • tetloj

        LOVE that it’s called ‘The Exes’

        • Charlotte

          Kristen Johnston is on Twitter (only joined for Miss Tia backing, but take advantage of checking in on some favourites) and she’s so anti-Hollywood bullshit. Not afraid to call people out.

    • koki

      great for taking a gig,but “exes” are funny as Kirstys new show…

  • DodoTheLaser

    I just realized the “donate” button is not here anymore, nor is Scott’s name..

    Did I miss the memo?

    • Graham

      It went missing at the time Tony announced he’d got his new job. There was some speculation as to why, but if Tony gave an official explanation I didn’t see it. Presumably as he now has a paid post he either doesn’t need the money or accepting donations might throw up some kind of conflict of interest?

      • DodoTheLaser

        Thank you. I can see it’s being the case.

        • KJP in Portland

          Me too. Good point!

        • Miss Tia

          There was no official mention. I surmised it was a conflict of interest and/or wouldn’t look good if he was an editor and had a donate button…..

    • Robert Eckert

      If you feel a strong urge to send money somewhere, I’m still broke!

      • DodoTheLaser

        I am not rich either. Not even close. But if you need food, I can help you.

        • Robert Eckert

          I am at my mom’s so the danger is rather in the direction of my being overstuffed.

    • Eclipse-girl

      It is still on the HOME page

      • LOL 2 years old thread. Thanks.

        • Eclipse-girl

          It happens to me, too

  • Charlotte

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPnr48iyJtM damnit, why did you have to be Co$?

  • Sydjazz

    http://youtu.be/hAn_qA2E7rs just saw this got reposted hehe

  • Graham

    Just found this ancient British TV expose. Can’t see a date but presumably late 60s early 70s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PYK1oWtXM Clearly shows, amongst many other things, the ghastly state of Flubtard’s teeth.

  • Vinay Agarwala

    Here is the KHTK version of Scientology’s L-11 Rundown.

    http://vinaire.me/2013/11/21/intention-to-harm/

  • Edward Whalley

    It’s the GPM’s that formed the nucleus of a poem cycle “Forbidden Internet” that I performed in the early 90’s. I loved the clash of opposites. The other major piece? “The ballad of Eskimo Nell.”

    • SLIM

      Do you know a Tom Whalley?
      I know silly question…

      • Edward Whalley

        Actually, it’s my Anonymous name. (I’m a middle aged woman Of Size.) Edward Whalley, historically, was one of the judges that condemned King Charles. Since the Connecticut Org is on Whalley Avenue, and Judge Whalley is the American equivalent of Guy Fawkes, I thought it a good moniker.

        Doesn’t mean I don’t get sassed on being “Edward”, however, by Twilight fans!

  • Lighthouse

    Love Karen and Jeffrey’s video!

  • Lighthouse

    Thank goodness I was spared the “OT levels”! Yet, once, I would have accepted the bs of implants because there is a whole series of lectures about them beforehand that I found fascinating. Whew!

    I’ve saved money, since leaving the cult! I’ve saved time. And I’ve saved face. Imagine going through all that only to find you DON’T have super powers and you’re life ISN’T any better, in fact, to the contrary. You’re now broke, owing hundreds of thousands and your mind has been messed with!

    Of course, you have elevation now. You belong to an elite group of people who throw their weight around pretending to be something they are not! Your life has become a farce. And you’re a fraud.

    I saved myself in the nick of time!