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Gay Ribisi, our friend Mark Ebner has your Scientology plaques — want ’em back?

Gay_RibisiOur old friend and fellow Scientology aficionado Mark Ebner tells us that on Saturday he and his lovely wife, Michelle Scott, enjoyed a brief repast at HMS Bounty, an old-timey bar and restaurant on Wilshire Boulevard in LA’s Koreatown section.

Afterward, they walked west on Wilshire, when Ebner spotted something unusual. It was a collection of what appeared to be discarded items, like someone had hastily cleaned out an office and had piled a few things — including a drawer from a desk, and some other items — in a pile on the ground. But what caught his eye, Mark says, was the glint of metal on a couple of wall plaques.

He took a closer look, and was stunned by what he’d found. They were Scientology plaques, the kind that you receive when you donate large amounts of money to the International Association of Scientologists.

Both of them had been awarded to Gay Ribisi (pictured, above). One celebrated her achieving the status of IAS “Patron,” and the other named her a “Patron with Honors.”

Ebner posted photographs of the two plaques to Facebook yesterday, and Scientology Watchers — many of them readers of this website — reacted with astonishment. They knew immediately how strange and significant Ebner’s find was.

According to a 2006 price list, Gay Ribisi would have had to donate $50,000 to the IAS to be named a Patron, and she only qualified as Patron With Honors by donating twice that — $100,000. That’s above and beyond what a Scientologist pays for expensive courses — some reaching $1000 an hour for longtime members like Ribisi.

Ebner tells us that the two plaques appeared to be made of cheap materials, but they were both in excellent shape.

 
RibisiPatrons

 
But what’s even more unusual than the notion of a Scientologist tossing out mementos that cost so much to acquire was that they came from Gay Ribisi.

Gay is part of Scientology royalty and tied into a wide network of Scientology celebrities and other important members. Gay and Al Ribisi are the parents of twins Giovanni and Marissa Ribisi, both successful Hollywood actors. Marissa is married to the musician Beck, who is also a second-generation Scientologist. And Gay is the manager of other Scientology actors — including Jason Lee, who got into Scientology through Giovanni and the rest of the Ribisi clan.

Just this June, we told you about how Giovanni Ribisi had defended Scientology on Marc Maron’s podcast and had denied that “aliens” had anything to do with the organization. He sure didn’t sound like he was on his way out the door.

Mark Ebner and Michelle Scott, who were married in August

Mark Ebner and Michelle Scott, who were married in August

Could it be possible that Vonni’s mother has grown disillusioned with Scientology and is throwing out her treasured artifacts? And wouldn’t that cause a major earthquake throughout the Scientology celebrity network? Ebner agreed that it would represent a seismic shift.

But we don’t know that that’s the case. We only know that two of her plaques ended up in a pile on Wilshire Boulevard. Could it be possible that Gay, or someone in her household, was merely tossing out some aging mementos to make room for newer certificates or plaques?

We asked Karen de la Carriere, formerly a Class XII auditor in Scientology, whether that would be unusual. Do Scientologists hold on to every certificate or plaque they receive, even as they pile up over a career of going up the “Bridge to Total Freedom,” and donating ever larger amounts to the IAS?

“When I was in, I was very social, and I went to a lot of homes of wealthy Scientologists,” Karen tells us. “These people who got all these plaques, they would create like a museum in their homes to show them all off. They’d create a shrine. It blows my mind that someone would throw any of them them away.”

We’re attempting through multiple channels to reach Gay Ribisi and learn if she’s grown disillusioned with Scientology.

But Mark Ebner wanted to make it clear — he’s happy to return the plaques to Gay if she wants them.

So which is it, Gay? We’d be pleased to put you together with Ebner so he can return your mementos, or, alternatively, we’d love to talk with you about why you don’t want them around anymore.

In the meantime, probably our favorite part about this episode is that Mark Ebner is laughing at the irony of it. He points out that in 2006, Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs — the church’s intelligence wing — was sending operatives to go through his trash looking for a way to smear him because of his involvement in the infamous 2005 South Park episode.

It is a special form of cosmic justice that of all the people who might have come across Gay Ribisi’s trashed plaques, it was Mark Ebner.

OK, it’s your move, Gay. We’d love to hear from you.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 27, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Richard Lloyd-Roberts

    Highly unlikely that these were tossed on the street by her. I would hazard a guess and say someone “removed” them from an office.

    • aegerprimo

      Who made this graphic? I LOVE IT!
      …………………..

  • Charles Murdoch

    I know Gaye well. I spent a lot of time, with many others at her house. I can tell you she is immaculate. And yes used to proudly display her church plaques and awards etcetera. No way they were accidentally lost. Hopefully more to come

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      But they seem to have shown up when she had just traveled to Clearwater – do you think someone else threw them out?

      • Charles Murdoch

        We can only speculate how they got there but I’m stumped as well. She wouldn’t let anyone knowingly throw them out. I know for sure she wouldn’t have….so it’s ether a bold serious statement or something else unknown to all of us.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          How do you think she will be handled for pulling in the bad PR?

          • Charles Murdoch

            Definite ethics handling. Sec checking. They will say she pulled this in;a sure sign of suppression or PTSness. I’m positive more “reveals” will come

    • aquaclara

      Like you’ve described, it is stunning to think of the importance these plaques have for members of the church. When my kids played sports, they accumulated any number of ribbons, plaques and trophies. The good ones were saved for a bit, displayed proudly. But within a short time, most of them were tossed, recycled or boxed up.

      But other than famous people and a few chamber of commerce members, I don’t know any adults who get and keep plaques….

      Love the inside perspectives here today.

      • Charles Murdoch

        The vanity in Scientology is overwhelming! Certificates, plaques and commendations are EVERYTHING to us. We gloat. We celebrate. We are looked down upon when we have no new levels or said tokens of “accomplishment”.

        • aquaclara

          That’s it-it’s the “accomplishment” of it all. All available for purchase.

          Early this morning, a few exes described the tossing of all the stuff-the mostly unread but paid for Basics, red and green volumes, plaques, etc, as a key moment in throwing off the Scientology mantel. Happy, sad, rueful, cathartic….all the feelings come out. Sort the comments on “oldest” if you missed this.

          How are you doing?

          • Charles Murdoch

            I did the same thing. I have received hundreds of commendations and could give two nickels about them now…so weird even now writing this. I’m ok. A lot good going on. Working a lot. Kids are great. Watch a movie with my beautiful daughter as I type this. But still deal with daily depression…

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Charles I am so glad you are here, so glad you can watch a movie with your lovely daughter, and not surprised at the daily depression. You have lost a lot of friends and left a lot behind. Speaking for the Bunker, if I may, we have your back and will lift you with our compassion for your journey.

            • Charles Murdoch

              And I shall lean on y’all ! On the other side I have many many non Scn friends and have for years because of the nature of working in the biz. And they are all ECSTATIC I’m out! But I do miss close bonds I had. Although I still have daily correspondence with Scns. They have no idea…

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              And it sounds like you need to really take your time before you let them know. I wonder how many of them are “under the radar”…?

            • Charles Murdoch

              Me too. I know there’s a lot! The demeanor has changed with many old friends…I have discovered about a dozen and was shocked but not surprised. We have a secret covenant. Everyone I’ve asked quietly…is out. And I’ve only ventured to ask about a dozen

            • Frodis73

              Charles-You really do give me hope that there are a lot more UTR then we can dream of. Since it’s so hard to trust anyone, you are all thinking the same things but can’t say anything. We all know this number is very high because of jobs,family, disconnection, etc. I just have a hunch maybe it’s even higher and things will end even sooner.
              Looking at the pic of the crowd at Mike’s blog is interesting…those ppl don’t look happy. You can see a bit of “wtf” and “really?” kind of looks going on. I smell rebellion. 🙂 It’s about time.

            • Charles Murdoch

              Ya. Me too! by the way I used to watch and admire with all both Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder when they would speak at events. I was confused when David took over all the events himself as well

            • Frodis73

              This is a great example of the bubble. You noticed a big change that Marty & Mike were gone…let me guess…did you mention it to anyone in passing? Not staff, but just among your friends…it kills me how ppl just vanish and nobody says boo.

            • Mark Foster

              It´s to be seen, how close those bonds are. Hopefully, they truly are. The whole disconnection thing provides, um, moments of clarity in a , sometimes, harsh way…

            • daytoncapri

              Glad you’re here, guy.

            • Stephanie Loving

              Dear CM — so natural to feel depressed. And to be mad at oneself. But this is just one of the stages of healing. Just keep on keepin’ on. Strive with diligence. You’ll sleep better at night. All the very very best to you and your wonderful family. I’m thrilled your daughter gets to watch a movie with you. it was one of the most favorite things my Dad and I did together. good luck

            • Charles Murdoch

              Thanks for that Stephanie. Wonderful to have the support. Crazy journey!

            • pluvo

              Pls keep the best of them. I recently threw also Scn stuff away, amongst it the redicoulouse ‘What is Scn? book’ (in my language it has double size). Once I wanted to send back my IAS membership card (founding member – sight), just to make my point. Then I thought about that it is evidence. My ‘freeloaderbill’ is so ridiculous high – for what ‘service’ I got in the Sea Org being in over a decade – it has some value just as proof of that. I like it also when some people who are out are showing their OT certs to make their points. Just saying :).

            • Eivol Ekdal

              “still deal with daily depression” …
              You are not alone, even those of us never in feel the same. I too have regrets about my decisions in the past. I try not to dwell on them but instead recognize the valuable lessons I have learnt. Consider yourself lucky that you have been able to hold on to your family values and a sense of compassion for others, unlike those soulless members of the ecclesiastical management.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Good to see you here again, Charles.

      Like you say, hopefully more to come.
      In truth, as the cult circles the drain, even the most sadly deluded must be hearing the last call.
      We move into the final act, i think. Thank God or Xenu or the cosmos.

      I just hope and pray that the suffering and pain can be minimized and that those who need help and counselling can find it. Above all, i want the disconnected reconnected.
      The investment of years, of decades, in a mirage, the loss and sense of deception , the self-questioning ..
      it has to be immense and scary and strange and liberating.
      Learning how to trust, to develop critical thinking, …

      As I said to you the other night, my heart breaks to learn the traumas and horrors some have endured.
      Then you replied that you were in tears. i was too.

      You have a good place here to unburden.
      Many kind hands and arms will reach to break your fall.
      Heart rules here more than head.
      Even Espi, the other night, who came on strong, is all heart.

      May we meet some day on the other side, your children with mine,

      • aquaclara

        This is beautiful, Pan.

      • Charles Murdoch

        That was beautiful and profound. Thank you! The unfortunate state of my life though is the fact that I’m not publicly out. So those out don’t know (except for a few) and I don’t associate much with those still in as much (I get invites everywhere but just not wanting to be around Scns anymore as I feel ashamed. Everyone does when they learn the truth) so yes, day by day step by step for now.

        Espi, didn’t know him like you all, but I did see his posts and relays…fact is the way he delt with me, immediately attacking and proven guilty before any proof is EXACTLY the way many many church ethic officers deal with people. It’s sick and Scn is the king of the bullies. He should have waited. Could have offered an apology. It’s SOO HARD to come out. He moms. This group doesn’t need that. Skepticism is core but give the newbies the benefit. We have endured too much

        • Stephanie Loving

          Strive on Charles M. Best of luck … May the road rise up to meet you.
          May the wind
          always be at your back.

          • Baby

            Stephanie.. That is a great sentiment.

        • Baby

          It’s a brand new day Charles… and a whole new chapter.. Sorry that that happened to you. The timing really sucked that’s for sure..

          but it is never a good time to make others feel less than. I would like to apologize for Espi. He just got carried away. sigh ; /

      • Jimmy3

        I don’t get this one. Usually you’re really funny.

        • noseinabk

          *giving J3 THE look*

          • Jimmy3

            I know, i know. I posted with a typo again. I’ll remember to post carefully next time. 🙁

            • noseinabk

              😛

            • Charles Murdoch

              Hey Jimmy

            • Jimmy3

              Hello

            • Baby

              Smacks Jimmy on the back of his head..( Hard)

            • Jimmy3

              Violence is not tolerated on this message board. If I knew Tony Ortega’s email address, I would report you right now.

          • Sherbet

            Pan’s post left out the line “And pay no attention to Jimmy3”

      • Baby

        Pan you have a kind heart.. I just love you.. that was so heartfelt..and I know it is so sincere. We are good people here.

  • Exterrier

    Hey, can we sell Siphonalogy memorabilia here on the Bunker? I may have one of Ron’s old a scarab rings from the Crowley Magicked days, and a mummified Jack Parsons pinkie finger.

  • Sherbet

    OT: I was reading an interview with pop singer Ariana Grande, who has embraced Kabbalah.

    “The Kabbalah movement…sort of stuck with me. And since then my life has unfolded in a really beautiful way, and I think that it has a lot to do with the tools I’ve learnt through Kabbalah, I really do.”

    Asked to explain those tools…she says that “you have to watch your intentions, make sure you’re not giving in to your ego. You have to numb your reactive state. You have the power to change your reality…and reassess how you want to approach an obstacle, or deal with a negative person in your space…”

    Hmmm…sounds familiar.

    • Captain Howdy

      The Kabbalah Center that Madonna, Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher belong to is well established as being a cult. Most Jews consider Kabbalah a cult.

      Research time, Sherb.

      • Sherbet

        I know what it is, Rabbi Howdy. In fact, I edited out the part of the article that mentions Madonna. I believe devout Jews aren’t too happy about the celebritizing of any part of Judaism.

        • Captain Howdy

          Jews take Kabbalahism as seriously as most Catholics take Opus Dei.

          • PreferToBeAnon2

            Jews take deli more seriously than Kabbalahism.

            • Captain Howdy

              No shit..and I’ll love them forever for that.

    • April

      Of course, Ariana’s success has absolutely nothing to do with her beautiful singing voice. That girl’s got pipes, plus looks to boot. And her family is wealthy, very wealthy. I’m sure she’s had all of the top quality singing and acting lessons she could want. She won the genetics lottery and (I assume) has worked hard to get where she is now. Kaballah has had fuck-all to do with her success.

      • Charles Murdoch

        True. And the difference with Scientology is when ever you have artistic success, they claim it was because of Scn.

    • TheQueenofBulgravia
  • Sherbet

    I’m going to bed. If I get banned from the Bunker overnight, somebody shoot me an email. Ciao.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      ‘nite Sherb!

    • Charles Murdoch

      No no banning goin on. All you SPs are cool people! Lol…oh ya, guess I’m an SP now too

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        congrats!

      • April

        Welcome to the club! 🙂

      • Baby

        HI Charles..I’m watching a scary movie and eating Halloween candy.. Glad to have you comment.. Yep SPs R US

      • Barbara Angel

        Yep, you’re an SP and it stands for *Special Person*. Stay safe please, those co$ bastards are both mad and dangerous.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Toss out your plaques where others can find them!

  • valshifter

    The church that does not like bad PR and yet love to smear others with bad PR by going thru their trash or reading private confessionals from their files, is being kicked in the ass by KARMA. I hope she blew and be brave enough to talk about it. if she blew…. that is going to be a mess…. with all the Ribissis involved, Beck and all the people that they know, oooooh lovley.

    • Charles Murdoch

      So true ValShift! That would be awesome. These are really really good people actually who I’ve know since the beginning. All of ’em. They are my breed and generation. Most soft hearted and hippie artists. Not the Grant Cardones of Scn. Nothing wrong with hard nose biz type nonScns at all but in Scn. You tend to see the hard line anger, “ethics presence” etc coming from SO, staff. People no longer allowed to follow THIER dreams and hobbies

      • Baby

        Can I state for the record that WE LOATHE CARDONES.. Puke.. Yes you going to fit right in here!

        • Charles Murdoch

          So do I. Weird to think I was invited by Grant to their engagement party. He’s every bit as over bearing and arrogant and self important as you guys have written about.

          • Baby

            Did you go? I would go just to watch his behavior and take a crap on his pillow..hahaha

            • Baby

              OK that is even too gross for me.. I wouldn’t go..hahaha

            • Charles Murdoch

              I only wanted to say though that I adore and love Gaye in a personal level. She’s kind and has helped me many many times. Vonni is a very dear friend. Beck is sweet, polite nada brilliant artist. I hope they get out!!

            • Baby

              I have boycotted every celebrity ..except Giovonni.. He has always held my heart..I think it’s because he was born into it..

              Could you possibly inform him how evil the cult is?

            • Baby

              eventually?

            • Charles Murdoch

              Yes. Since posting here I’ve got some stuff up my sleeve. I’ve been following Tonys precautions closely tho

            • Missionary Kid

              Stay careful and safe. We need those who are still in to keep us informed. Thank you for your insights on the people us never-ins have heard of but don’t know.

            • pluvo

              Good. I was getting worried but didn’t want to mention it, to not worry you.
              Your insider knowledge is a big threat. Take care (and take a camera with you – it has proven to be very effective). The cult hates evidence made broadly public.

            • Charles Murdoch

              He knows. I can’t yet….talking to him about my out has to be done gingerly…we were both born in

            • valshifter

              what is a scientologist to do? or better yet what would xenu would do?

            • Charles Murdoch

              Thank god for the internet. Read EVERYTHING online. Could not believe THATS WHAT IS ON THE FUC*ing OT levels!?? OMG. As long as I can remember We all wanted to get up the bridge. Thought the magic was real…the only real magic is family, art, love, friendship, truth, overcoming obstacles and living as beautiful a life as we can before we are gone…

            • Jimmy3

              And Dippin’ Dots.

            • Charles Murdoch

              Ya, they are

            • Charles Murdoch

              This is all heavy. Nice to remember to stay light about it all sometimes. I like the diversity of the crowd here

            • Jimmy3

              I like you Charles Murdoch. It is good to keep it light, I think. I’ve always thought, what good is it to leave an environment with little joy and no laughter, only to find yourself on the outside in the exact same situation? Feel free to tell me if I’m wrong.

            • Charles Murdoch

              Thanks Jimmy. Youre cool as well. Ya you’re right…partially. I’m know as “Uber positive”. So its wild that ive had so much anger come out as the truth came out coinciding with a lot of personal tragedy.

            • aquaclara

              I’m so very sorry about your losses, Charles. You’re going to make it through all this. Look forward, no regrets….new things will replace old habits and patterns, and new friends will come along,too. They are just waiting to be met.

              Love that you had a chance to watch a movie with your daughter. I have treasured memories of sharing time just like that with my dad years ago. It still brings back smiles.

              My dog makes me laugh. He starts every morning in a burst of energy, happiness and excitement, understandable on a gorgeous day, but surprising on the rainy ones. I’m sending you some of his bounce and joy….

              What an incredible person you are to have found your way out, after all the enormous efforts Scientology goes through to keep people in. There’s good stuff ahead…

            • Barbara Angel

              Hi, being part of this site is wonderful, the absolute joyful satire and pure mockery of mustravage and his gang of enablers. Laughing at them, in particular the clever shoops of mustravage especially when they put him in girly clothes, is so funny. Laughter is such an important aid, showing and mocking everything about co$ helps to take away the shock, hurt, disappointment and pain. This is from a never in. After reading so many of the brave ‘Testimonials’ here, I’m really in awe of what you’ve all been through. WoW…you made it through sane. Well done, really glad you’ve had an awakening and really, really glad that there are so many survivors who can help ease your transition.
              Peace be with you. xoxoxo

            • DodoTheLaser

              “the only real magic is family, art, love, friendship, truth, overcoming
              obstacles and living as beautiful a life as we can before we are gone…”

              And I think it so worth it. This is my philosophy too, at this point, Charles.

            • Charles Murdoch

              Yes. Thanks Dodo. Love your screen name by the way bud

            • DodoTheLaser

              Thank you too. Song I am playing right now.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRQ3TaVy6s

            • Mark Foster

              Just in case you haven´t seen this, it´s an incisive, scientific analysis of the dates and locations in OT 3(yeah, OT 3 is flubbard´s pinks-and-greys fabrication):

              http://www.lermanet.com/exit/Peter%20Forde%20-%20volcanos.html

            • ObsessedReader

              Thanks for joining us in the bunker! I look forward to reading more about your life “inside” and the process of discovery you’re going through. Please know that many lurkers and commenters will benefit from your brave, insightful posts.

            • Charles Murdoch

              Yes. And seen him many times. His wife is stunning. Was waaaay more chill til she married him.

            • Baby

              Wow..that is hard to believe..She is such an asshole.. What could she have possibly seen in him to begin with.. PUKE

            • Charles Murdoch

              He’s over bearing. Manipulating and controlling. He’s a classic Domestic Violence case. Only verbally and emotionally abusing. I don’t know him to be physical

      • Baby

        Charles..I have said from day one.” I don’t hate the players, I only hate the game! ” Mind Control can make good people do bad things..

        You may not have experienced it in CC.. I don’t know, but there is some scary shit out there..as far as this evil cult goes.. I know you’ve been reading. I am sure it has really awakened you.

        It amazes me how much of a bubble those in live.. Just freaking tragic.

        • Charles Murdoch

          Oh I have seen a lot of the shitty shit directly at CC.

      • Bob

        CM, You mentioned you do get depressed sometimes. Make it your mission to support Tony, Mike, Marty and the other whistle blowers around the world. Give them inside information that will help bring down the cherch. Be a mole since you are still in. With purpose I’m sure you will feel better. Also good to support the other UTR guys and gals. There is a lot you can do to be effective.

        • Charles Murdoch

          That is very very true. that has been the one the important thing that has made me feel vital and effective and actually doing something about the 37 years of fraud that I was born into and ate up

          • Bob

            Sorry to hear you were born into it. So you did not ask to be in it.
            I view that my time in the cherch was part of my journey.
            I Focus on my future and those who love me and that has been very therapeutic. And doing my part to close down the cherch of Fraudotology has been a worthwhile purpose.
            Know that there are many who are similar to you. And if you view us as Phoenix rising from the ashes it obliterates the regret and brightens up your future.

  • Captain Howdy

    I’ll leave the last word to The Kinks.
    http://youtu.be/zOusKPeH7nU

  • if ever my avatar needs an upgrade I think I’ll use this pic as source….

    • Baby

      OMG…make it go away

    • Captain Howdy

      That’s disgusting.

      • Jimmy3

        I know, right? That wagon is way too small. They need room to stretch out, to breathe, to readjust when necessary. They can’t be all cramped in like that.

        • ObsessedReader

          True…and I wish I could see his head. I would just feel better if I knew his head was bigger than his balls. (

          • Jimmy3

            I’m just happy his balls are in the right place. Some avatars don’t have that luxury.

        • Captain Howdy

          It’s just so inhumane and not even remotely funny.

          • Jimmy3

            What is so inhumane about it? The cage really isn’t that tight, I was kidding. That tractor-cart or whatever it is looks like it runs on a lawn mower engine. It can’t be used to transport the pig very far. He’s obviously well fed.

            • Captain Howdy

              Where’s the dignity for the animal?

            • Jimmy3

              Where’s the lack of dignity? I’m sure the pig with giant balls does not care that a photo of his giant balls is online. Are you assuming he’s displayed in that thing all the time? Because I’m assuming that’s just how he’s transported in short distances.

            • Captain Howdy

              So if i drove you around in a primitive wire cage naked with your balls flapping in the wind that would be OK? And how do you know what the pig is feeling? They are highly intelligent animals who I’m sure are capable of feeling embarrassment by all accounts.

            • Jimmy3

              I… I really don’t know what to say. I’ve been waiting so long for you to ask me out… Yes, yes of course it would be OK. When are you thinking?

            • Thats probably a bad example because I have a feeling Jimmy would LIKE that 🙂

        • I’m probably gonna have a nightmare about those bloody things tonight.
          Why are they bigger than that man’s head?

    • I dare you 🙂
      This is my face right now.

    • Artoo45

      Tuk tuk nutz.

  • valshifter

    Marty Rathbum video has over 600 thousand views, scientology is fuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG70fhg0wL4

    • Xenu forbid these commentators ever decide to come here…. they make Espi look like a fluffy bunny (pic)

      (actual views 617k and counting)

      • valshifter

        lol, that is insane

      • Robert Eckert

        “Frank Serpico” is deathtoallpoliticians here, he made the same post on the Bunker but Tony deleted it.

        • sookiesookie

          Are you sure? I’d started to think that was a one-off, but if this is true, I’m back to being disturbed.

          • Robert Eckert

            It’s impossible to be sure about these things. Let’s just say I think it very probable.

        • never trusted the guy

  • DodoTheLaser

    Mike Rinder has a nifty update on a new Ideal Org trend.

    “The New Sea Org “Model” Class V Org”
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-new-sea-org-model-class-v-org/

    Poor clowns are desperate.

    • Graham

      Their magazine is called Reality. The irony, it burns, it burns!!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Hey, reality is whatever the fuck they want it to be. Ron said so.

    • DodoTheLaser

      This is how it usually goes, by post and division.
      I even tried to assign the proper colors. F5

      • Artoo45

        “Balances screaming and being screamed at.” That earns you one internetz.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Thanks!

    • endoftheQ

      I’ve noticed that women seem to outnumber the blokes about 4-1 in $cientology pics. at the mo.
      Welcome to LA, the Black Widow Org. 😉

      • DodoTheLaser

        Ha! F5

        • endoftheQ

          Hahaha. Oh, and it’s cmd-r, you Philistine. 😉

          • DodoTheLaser

            What is? I like good apples in my salad. 😉

            • endoftheQ

              (refresh, svp)

            • endoftheQ

              Oh, nice @NOLAgirl edit.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Haha! Sorry, I do it all the time and blame it on the fact that English is my 2nd language.

            • endoftheQ

              Aw, you’d never know your Mother-tongue is Xenube. 😉

            • DodoTheLaser

              lol I missed the ref re: NOLAgirl, btw. Is she an offender like me too?

            • endoftheQ

              Half my comments end up in the wrong place, thanks to Disqust insisting I log back in at posting and then adding them in random positions. The other half, Bunkerites such as yourself and NOLAgirl edit their original comments until mine read as gross non-sequiturs. I feel like a character in a L.Umpty Dumpty novel. 😉

            • DodoTheLaser

              Sorry. I really am. Unlike Disqus though, myself and I believe NOLAgirl are human and well intentioned.

            • endoftheQ

              Rubbish, I’m convinced with @NOLAgirl it’s just pure spite. 😉

            • DodoTheLaser

              LOL! I like you both. Pro tip: try using Windows/Android (ducking).

            • endoftheQ

              Hush up, I’m busy, red X’ing on the altar of The Fruit God. 😀

    • Charles Murdoch

      So sad…no words

  • madame duran

    Meanwhile, somewhere in the Midwest, an overflowing garbage can sits on the curb…filled with unused Organic Liaison products, empty chip bags, tubs of ice creme and half eaten Oreo cookie packages. And Kirsten Alley is fuming.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Tuesday the 28th of October

    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls,
    We have an above average Monday catch, the overall tempo is increasing, they need raw meat and $$$$ NOW! We had 89 ads for Monday and our “Last 4 Days” list is down to 330 or 20 minutes flagging

    Check a few note and tips at WWP : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-116#post-2492042
    Or go directly to the RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    The best strategy is still to flag everything in the “Last 4 Days” and then come back later in the afternoon every 2 to 3 hours to flag new
    arrivals in the Daily Wip (from 4:30am onward) You can also use the reboot tech and Flag it all over again.

    I promised I will stop repeating myself everyday, soon ! (I am getting on my own nerves!)

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty AP: https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/14528074393/in/set-72157642802079293

  • DodoTheLaser

    If you don’t like scientology – Fuck You!

    “Church of Scientology Launches NGAFAY Campaign!”
    http://otviiisgrrr8.wordpress.com/2014/10/28/church-of-scientology-launches-ngafay-campaign/

    • Charles Murdoch

      You sir are BRILLIANT!
      By the way Dodo: NGAFAY!

  • Boy, I remember when Vonni and Marisa were born in the Ribisis room in the Wilcox Hotel, where Celebrity Centre staff were berthed. Heck, I remember when Gay showed up at the old CC on 8th St. near downtown L.A., wearing her weird multi-colored hose. She’s always been wacky – if she’s left the cult that tells me that there’s hope for any hypnotized $cientologist. Her ex-husband Al is too big a wimp to ever leave the cult but Gay’s always had a mouth on her so maybe she finally saw the light. Beck’s mom Bibbe Hansen apparently did – maybe she got through to Gay and her son? Wishing them all extraction from insanity.

    • Artoo45

      After reading Mike’s article on the South Coast Mission help wanted ad, I fell down the RazzLine rabbit hole and was looking at all the chirpy, upbeat help wanted ads for other Scilon businesses. These seemed to be mostly WISE companies and small entrepreneureal endeavors. Then I found one for Al’s printing business and that led to his bizarre website and blog. I think he’s a frustrated Larry David wannabe. He thinks he’s quite the humorist, except that he isn’t that funny, and I can never figure out what his point is. From what I read about his relationship to his third wife, I think Gay is well rid of him.

      • Al and several other $cientologist’s from the SF Bay area had a big hit song in the late 60s with “I Love You” (the group “People”). Al’s dad was a rich surgeon and Al had money as a CC staff member – which is why Gay married him (I said cynically) – chicks went for the money guys on staff at a time when the pay was $17 a week (if you were lucky) and room (very crowded room) and board (often rice and beans). Al used to make a living doing “police benefits” for SoCal cities all over, putting out a magazine for each one and keeping probably half the money his organization collected on behalf of cops. I lost track of him over a decade ago. I’m not surprised if he’s falling apart. But hey, Vonnie’s rich and so is Marisa (via Beck) so neither Al nor Gay probably have anything to worry about.

        • Artoo45

          Thanks for all the great insider history. It’s always great to hear your take on all things Hubbard.

          • You’re welcome. I’d give you my Paypal address but that would be Elwrong.

  • Dave Reams

    Poor Gay, she probably wanted to dispose of Scientology quietly and without sorrow. Now she certainly will face a firestorm of ethics handlings – Gay bashing if you will.

    Poor OSA person who had to convey this happening to the nebulous dwarf! I would love to hear all about Miscavige’s tantrum from that person. Not today, but tomorrow or the next day after they blow.

  • L. C. Spencer

    Aaaaaand for anybody reading this article, it’s now been picked up by Gawker!

    http://fortressamerica.gawker.com/is-giovanni-ribisis-family-quitting-scientology-1651831886

  • elcgmail .

    Wow all I can say is ‘karma’.
    What are the odds that they could end up in the hands of Mark Ebner of all people roflmao!

  • Insouciante

    If she wants them back, I say make her pay for them again in today’s dollars. The Ebners have every right to get a reward. Perhaps Vonnie or Beck can buy them back as a Christmas gift for Gay? If not auction them off to the SPs. Finders keepers.

  • mediafight

    I want to be as vague and polite as possible about this. I knew Gay as a customer back in the 90’s. Despite her celebrity connections, (at least back then) she was not known to be someone that would have that kind of money to throw around.