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DOX: Scientology drug rehab center found deficient after a 2010 California death

NNWatsonvilleWell here’s a shock. A patient at Scientology’s Watsonville, California drug rehab clinic, Narconon of Northern California, was rushed to an emergency room and died, the state later investigated the clinic and substantiated seven deficiencies — several of them major — and the clinic apparently suffered no penalty at all.

That’s pretty shocking, considering what’s been happening in the rest of the Narconon system in the years since that 2010 death was investigated in early 2012. Additional patient deaths in Georgia, Michigan, and Oklahoma — where three patients died in only a nine-month period — have led to multiple government investigations and numerous lawsuits.

The incident in California somehow managed to stay under the radar — it hasn’t been mentioned in any of recent lawsuits filed against the Watsonville facility by Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton, for example.

We have the final report of the investigation submitted by the Licensing and Certification Division of the California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs, and it’s posted below.

The most stunning allegation in the investigation, and the one that seems to concern the state agency the most, is that the Narconon center waited more than a year before it even reported the summer 2010 death, and then submitted an “inaccurate statement” about it.

On November 6, 2011, more than a year after the incident, investigator Adrianna Alatorre was handed the case, and the next day made an unannounced visit to the facility.

Eight distinct allegations had been made against the clinic, and Alatorre substantiated all of them.

The victim’s name was redacted, but one instance of it appears to have been left by accident — it’s at the top of page six in the report, and we’ll let you find it for yourself.

The report is heavily redacted, but it suggests that after spending several weeks as a patient at the clinic, the person complained of feeling ill and asked to be taken to an emergency room.

(Prospective clients and their parents are told that Narconon features trained medical staff, but it’s not often true. Narconon centers are staffed with recent graduates who are not trained in medicine. Each center has a medical director, but that’s usually a physician who isn’t on hand and, at least in one case in Georgia, had never set foot on the property. If the patient knew she was seriously ill, she may have known her only chance was to get away from the clinic.)

The reports suggests that after she arrived at a hospital, she died. “The cause of death was declared by Dr. Steven Smith, M.D., as [redacted] which occured [redacted] prior to Decedent’s expiration.”

Investigator Alatorre found that Narconon of Northern California was in violation of every one of the allegations made against it:

— Licensee did not notify the Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs of Decedent’s death until one year after the death of the Decedent.

— Licensee did not send a report of the death of Decedent until one year after Decedent’s death.

— Licensee did not possess policies and procedures ensuring Decedent sought timely medical treatment.

— Licensee provided an inaccurate statement to the Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs.

— Licensee did not ensure Decedent was afforded safe, healthful and comfortable accomodations to meet Decedent’s needs.

— Licensee staff did not complete the required Resident Health Screening for Decedent

— Licensee did not ensure its counseling staff was licensed, certified, or registered six months from date of hire.

— Licensee failed to ensure personnel are tested for Tuberculosis annually.

Also, Alatorre ran into a registered nurse who wasn’t happy to be asked about the incident.

“At approximately 1100 hours, CA Alatorre proceeded to ask Registered Nurse Christina Kuzio her recollection of the condition of the Decedent at Licensee’s facility prior to the Decedent being transported to the local emergency hospital. At which time, Registered Nurse Christina Kuzio stated, ‘I’ve been around long enough to know when I need to have representation and what I need to do to protect my license. I will not speak to you without representation present.'” The nurse later changed her mind and talked with Alatorre.

She suggested that the patient had been advised to go to the hospital if she wasn’t feeling well, but that she didn’t want to.

This was a licensing body, not a law enforcement agency, and the harshest penalty for deficiencies it could levy were fines totalling $150 a day.

Nathan Tuddenham, the center’s Senior Director for Administration, wrote a letter on March 19, 2012, explaining how Narconon was addressing the substantiated allegations.

He describes writing policies and dispatching copies to the staff, and purchasing equipment to make their files more efficient.

And that’s it. The state signed off on it, and Narconon apparently suffered no penalty. Meanwhile, the state wasn’t more curious about how Narconon operated.

Alatorre submitted her report on February 22, 2012, and the case was closed on March 30.

Here’s the report…

 

Narconon Watsonville 2010 Death Investigation

 
Another interesting development in Narconon litigation: A New York court has rejected Narconon’s motion to dismiss in another of the many fraud lawsuits currently pending against Scientology’s rehab network. We weren’t watching this one previously, but it is very like the many others on our radar.

New York couple Nathaniel and Heidi Gore wanted to find a rehab clinic for a relative in their extended family. In September 2012, they found a referral website that didn’t reveal its connection to Scientology.

They were convinced to send their family member to a Narconon center in Destin, Florida, but first they were asked to deposit $40,000 to “save a spot” for the patient. They did so, using their American Express card.

But then, after dropping off their relative, they learned the truth — that the program isn’t about drug counseling, it’s about giving patients Scientology training.

Upset, the Gores confronted a Narconon employee who told them the patient could leave and the fee would be pro-rated.

The patient did leave just two days after arriving, but the Gores couldn’t get their money back.

Responding to their lawsuit, the church filed a motion to dismiss, arguing that the Gores couldn’t sue in New York state court because the site of their so-called injury was in Florida. But Judge Carol R. Edmead disagreed — evidence showed that the Gores had paid the $40,000 from their American Express card while they were in New York, not Florida.

Now Judge Edmead has decided that the case has merit and can stay in New York. We’ll keep an eye on things.

 
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We have the date for the IAS gala!

Thanks to our great tipsters, we now know when Scientology will hold its annual IAS gala in England.

From: Shaked Flash
To:
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:11:58
Subject: IAS 30th Anniversary date announced

Dear Xxxxx,

I wanted you to be one of the first to know as a Field Disseminator! The date for the IAS 30th Anniversary at Saint Hill is 17-19 October!

Thousands of Scientologists from all over the world are coming to celebrate our wins and accomplishments of the last 30 years and I wanted to make sure that you are going to be there too!

It will be epic, and believe me YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS IT!

I need your help to spread the word and get as many of your selectees and fellow Scientologists to book their flights to the UK and buy their Patrons Ball tickets now.

The live event will be held on Friday 17 October, followed by the International Patrons Ball on Saturday 18 October. We want every Scientologist to move up in status before the event and new Patrons will be presented on stage at the ball! So use this momentous occasion to get anyone and everyone you know to upgrade – there is no better time to do so than right now!

Let me know back so that I know you will be there and who else you are planning on bringing with you.

ARC,

Shaked Flash
Director of Field Dissemination
IAS Administrations

P.S: Contact me if you need more details on Patrons Ball tickets. They are selling out like hot cakes.

 
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David Pomeranz with your favorite song!

You’re going to love this.

 

 
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  • Graham

    The Watsonville document is set to ‘private’?

    • NOLAGirl

      For me too.

      • Tony Ortega

        Try now

        • Elar Aitch

          Fixed!

        • KingofSweden

          Also, second paragraph, second sentence, an instance of the word “there” that I believe you mean to read “three?”

          Just trying to help, don’t mean to nitpick… as always great reporting, T… I hope California wakes up and starts to investigate that Narconon facility in a more serious way.

          • Tony Ortega

            Fixed, thanks

        • NOLAGirl

          Thanks Tony.

    • April

      If you click on the scribd link just above it, you’ll go to the document. I was able to read it, but there’s not much on it beyond what Tony’s already described.

  • Elar Aitch

    Nathan Tuddenham, the center’s Senior Director for Administration, wrote a letter on March 19, 2002, explaining how Narconon was addressing the substantiated allegations.

    …..should be March 19, 2012?

    • Tony Ortega

      Yes

  • Shaked Flash is just a great name….and hooray!!! my taj mahal pantry should finally be finished TOMORROW!!!! construction anxiety shall be ending!! 🙂

    • joan nieman

      Good news Tia. You have been struggling with those renos for awhile. At least the perv has a fence to block his vision now. It seems you have had a lot of work to do this past year.

      • INDEED!! they just called to confirm they’ll be here tomorrow at 8am…..i also broke a couple bones in my foot a couple weeks ago….just lots of ‘fun’ around here!! but YES to the creeper peeper block fence!!! especially the section blocking the view from his kitchen window that forms a middle finger for him! 🙂

  • mzuridini

    Who’s getting paid off? How can this place stay in business with so many deaths?

    • We’re on our own. Unless it’s the son or daughter of some rich white corporate parasite politician or something, we’re all allowed to die at the hands of anyone.

  • endoftheQ

    They are selling out like hot cakes. We’re giving them away like stale buns. 😉

    • Bavarian Rage

      My thoughts exactly!

    • Unex Skcus

      Should have offered free rice and beans…

  • John P.

    Jeff Pomeranz with your favorite song!

    Aw, Tony! I was so looking forward to hearing Jeff cover the immortal “Source” version of “Thank You For Listening,” but all I got was “We Stand Tall.”

    Interestingly, Pomerantz’s singing voice is a lot thinner than the voice he uses as the announcer for all those events. Guess they use all the digital processing on him that they do on Miscavige to make his voice just hammer all the Shermanspeak from those events into the attendees’ cortexes.

    You’re right — the end is the best part, where he stalks the stage and does his best James Brown imitation. Worth watching for that alone.

    • Techie

      Jeff’s voice for voiceovers is heavily processed. David’s voice in this amateur hour performance is pretty much just as you hear it in real life. They couldn’t even come up with a couple of lighting looks for this show, intimate to full stage to ballyhoo and they left it on ballyhoo for the rest of the show! Probably poor Peter Voegeding was on both the audio and lighting boards at the same time, or they had some poor kid on the lighting board who barely knew how to turn it on.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Man oh man, if That is not The sign of a reckoning. I remember well starting out with a full band including horns and more with a stage crew of lighting And sound man. When you get down to solo act and just 1 in the pit crew it is so past time to check retirement contingencies.

        • Techie

          Well, when is the last time you heard of David Pomeranz being headlined at a casino in Las Vegas? This is about the only kind of gig he does these days, pre-show for the Flag Graduation or Freewinds Maiden Voyage after show (they do a musical show of some kind after every event on the Freewinds Maiden Voyage and after a few of these you are kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel). He does movie music but not much live anymore. We often had him on shows like the Charity Ball after the IAS event. Golden Era Musicians, Jive Aces, David Pomeranz, nothing but the best……

          • MaxSpaceman

            at least they get the chords right

            • Techie

              Did they do the key change in the middle? I wasn’t paying attention, too distracted by the no-lighting for the female lead and David stealing her lines. Nothing like getting all made up for a performance only to have all the lighting from behind you!

            • MaxSpaceman

              well lit, NOT!
              Yes, they modulated and everyone was on the downbeat.

          • Semper Phi

            Apparently David was a Really Big Deal in the Philippines a while back. He may still be, but at least at one time he was quite the star there.

    • i-Betty

      This is the first time I’ve been glad of no volume/speakers on our work computers.

      • MaxSpaceman

        alas- my business done in work-from-home office, all speakered-up. Yikes!

    • mzuridini

      I like religious music just fine, but I had to make up my own lyrics to that song!

      Thank you for listening
      I write just for you
      But others hearing this may find
      Things they would argue.

      I’ve been dead for twenty years
      Killed by the Sea Org
      Mary Sue sold drugs to kids
      And Diana was a whore

      • mzuridini

        They’re were rumors. His voice sounded so different. People thought he died, and that the Sea Org had him on ice.

        • Techie

          The voice sounds strange on “Thank You for Listening” (actual title “L’Envoi”) because it is heavily processed both in the analog domain by riding the vari-speed control to adjust the speed changes and by a full mixing line. The reason is that all they had was a dictation cassette recording of a demo for the song. Hubbard never made it into the studio to actually record it (something about some “All Clear” project not being complete so he could not come to the Int Base where the Music Studio was located). They could almost reconstruct a fake Hubbard voice by processing but as far as I know they never actually did so. Of course what you hear on recorded lectures is processed to the max, partly because the original recordings are so bad. The system has about 20 main components on it, probably totaling about $50,000 just for the processing, with four modified Studer reel-to-reel recorders that probably cost $12,000 each for the final recording. Then digital editing stations take out all the references to long-blown SPs etc.

          • mzuridini

            Is it actually Hubbard’s voice? On that song and all the other recordings from that time? From a crappy cassette recording that they spruced up in the studio, like putting whipped cream on a piece of shit?

            • Techie

              That’s right, MZ, it is the voice of the Master, re-juiced by a crew of dedicated Sea Org slaves, largely on their sleep time. Hubbard had a whole crew of followers that would record his pronouncements, dictats and words of wisdom, sorta like the North Koreans do with their Dear Leader. At that time it was the cassette dictation system. Dave M. uses a similar setup. All expletives lovingly deleted in the transcription process.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Do originals with expletives still exist? I’d buy that.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            “digital editing stations take out all the references to long-blown SP” Is that in the Confront and Shatter SP’s new editions?

            • Techie

              All the old introductions to lectures, where Hubbard welcomed specific persons by name, are edited out. Most of those he welcomed are long gone, some are seriously bad news like John McMasters. They just took all that stuff out. I knew somebody that was mentioned in one of the SHSBC lectures who was upset that his name was taken out. Lots of coughs, lip smacks etc. are also removed. But there are also tech alterations, I read about that on Marty’s blog one time about the PDC. Can’t remember where. On the dictations with expletives, my guess is that some do still exist at the CST compounds, near the Kool cigarette logos, but many were probably destroyed to prevent them from becoming evidence that Hubbard was still running the church. Not sure about Dave, I think they used to re-use the cassettes, but there is a huge vault full of transcripts of the glittering wisdom of Dave (WTF! Why is that tree still here! I ordered it gone 20 minutes ago! Etc. Etc. Etc….)

            • grundoon

              The Ron’s Org website has a detailed list of differences between Ante Miscavige and Post Miscavige releases of Hubbard’s writings and tapes.

              Aida Thomas, Cl 8, made a series of videos on Miscavige’s alterations to LRH tech.

            • richelieu jr

              You can find a great video online where they actually digitally removed Ron Jr!

              It’s pretty hilarious, because in the original he wheels a cart of books out on stage, then hands one to Ron, and takes some back.. It all happens by magic in the ‘new version’!

              So, so Stalinist!

          • richelieu jr

            Really? It is called ‘L’Envoi?

            Plutôt le ‘renvoie’!

            • Techie

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Freedom_%28L._Ron_Hubbard_album%29I think he was trying for a “send-off” or “farewell” but got a bit of the flavor of walking the plank instead. Like something you would say on the guillotine platform. Truth is truth, but the old man had very little of it in him. And the arrogance of writing off any unbeliever as “it’s their concern, not mine, my friend. They’re free to fantasize” as though he had a 100% monopoly on the truth and the other side did not even merit a moment’s consideration.

      • richelieu jr

        Thank you for listening
        I being to writes good
        But others hearing this may find
        Their ears come unglued

        I do not sling what I believe
        I pull it from my crack
        If they believe I’ve had three wives,
        The second one was Jack’s

        For truth is truth and if they then
        Decide to live with lies
        Then that’s where I come in, my friend,
        To steal their future lives

        Thank you for insisting
        That beans and rice are food
        That the SleezeOrg is for mankind
        And not just my own good

        Now do not try to slink out and leave
        I really must insist
        Until you shell out til you grieve
        I must pay for this Cyst!

        For poop is poop and if gay men
        must stay covertly hostile
        The COB’s a POS
        And PTS to me, child

        Thank you for not resisting
        The least question might enrage me
        Yet Miscavige got into fisting
        and COB SCOHB

        • Techie

          That is funny, your Eminence

    • Axton

      “Thank You For Listening” spawned a great comment on Youtube:

      “It sounds like a beluga whale being raped by the 80’s”

    • Semper Phi

      JP, Jeff Pomerantz isn’t the singer, that’s David Pomeranz. No relation.

      The first time I ever heard that song was when David P. performed it for a NY Org event. I’m sad to say that I loved it… The last time I saw David was at Flag, when he was doing his Objectives (as a Clear…) in the course room where I was doing my supervisor apprenticeship. I had to take him to Ethics for his habitual lateness.

  • Techie

    David Pomerantz, is the musician in the family, not John. The only performances we hear from Jeff are voice-overs and crush IAS regging.

    • Tony Ortega

      Yes, that’s right. Fixed. And it’s Pomeranz, no ‘t’.

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    Um, Mr. Flash, if the tickets are selling like hot cakes, why would you “need [your] help to spread the word and get as many [of your] selectees and fellow Scientologists to book their flights to the UK and buy their Patrons Ball tickets now”?

    Based on the Patron’s Ball layout Tony posted a few days ago, it seems the premises would seat +/-1500 (maybe 1750) at most. Despite the cos’s claimed 5X, 8X, 101X expansion, it sounds to me like you’re having a party that almost no one wants to attend. Wonder why that is.

    Oh, and upgrade your status today, of course.

    • i-Betty

      “We want every Scientologist to move up in status before the event…”

      Shameless.

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        Considering that the IAS event is one of cos’s big three annual events, tickets should’ve sold out shortly after it was announced, confirmed dates or not.

        I’m holding out hope that confirmed attendance is so dismal, Miscavige might consider cancelling it; if not, those whose arm was twisted to attend figure out they bought their one final clue.

        • MaxSpaceman

          I think he would truck in 1,000 Eastern EU peeps before he let that happen. Tux rentals in the area should spike dramatically.

          • endoftheQ

            Exactly. I think the Sunday Funnies table map had one marked UK. I’ll try and find out afterwards how many of the Saint Hill crew were “sat” for free. 😉

            • MaxSpaceman

              ! cool. Reliable inside intel is esteemed as highly as tacos and caek in the Bunker. well, almost 🙂

            • endoftheQ

              Hmmm. Space. Cookies. 😉

            • MaxSpaceman

              and Sea Monkey ~

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            True enough, and he’s done it before. However, the down side is that voluntary or coerced public in attendance would notice.

            Some exes have said before that the bullshit Miscavige was spewing on stage did not mesh with what they were seeing in the audience. The propaganda has fallen apart and cos is losing membership at every one of those “epic don’t miss” events.

            • MaxSpaceman

              that’s so true, HotB. 20 years ago the IRS wAr iS oVer $cilon video, shot at the Shrine Auditorium, Southern Calif., was orders of magnitude in attendance over the tent event, for example, last Fall in Clamwater. $cilon ‘shrinkage’ in audience size is large.

            • Techie

              Not the Shrine, the LA Sports Arena, a much bigger venue though they sacrificed a lot of seats for the staging. The last Sports Arena event was the 2000 event and they barely filled the hall. Today I don’t think they even fill the Shrine.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Oh- kay- Sports Arena, even huger crowd. That event in ’94 was it was rockin with people. Now they have more shrinkage than George Castanza had out on Long Island that afternoon.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I was in the pooooool!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Heck, last year they barely filled L Ron Hubbard Way. Not even inflatable volcanoes lured them in.

            • richelieu jr

              Well, of course not– Didn’t you hear about the inflatable volcanoes?

              They’ve blown.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              So bad bro.

            • richelieu jr

              Well, it was that or something about them being full to blowing with the real essence of Scientology–Hot Air…

              (my dream gag would have been a Brady Bunch reference to when Bobby’s volcano Science Project blew up…)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Bobby’s volcano ref would have been good….very good.

            • endoftheQ

              I wonder if there’s a Mr. Humphries I can shake a leg at for dets? 😉
              http://www.broadleys.co.uk/formal-hire-at-broadleys-east-grinstead/

            • MaxSpaceman

              If I can make it ‘cross the pond for the event am gonna rent my formal wear right there! Thanx :->)

            • HappypantsDance

              Oh gee, I’ve got a bridesmaid dress that I’ve only worn the once, so I’m set! It will look lovely with the GF mask and Doc Martens.

            • endoftheQ

              Hey, it’ll be a change from your usual snorkel and flippers. 😉

            • HappypantsDance

              I can klass up a joint if I put my mind to it!

          • Peter Bonyai

            When I was working in the Hungarian Sea Org unit, we were supposed to send hundreds of “publics” each year to that event. It was a nightmare each year to try to comply with the impossible attendance quotas (which were followed by fundraising quotas at the night of the event).

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        “But…if I move up in status before the event, I won’t be able to afford my flight to the UK!”

        • HappypantsDance

          That’s what a third mortgage is for.

        • i-Betty

          Ivy! Who wants to go to their silly IAS event anyway? Come and stay with me and we’ll get drunk and break some windows and graffiti penises on the school gym walls. And I promise not to make you wear a scratchy ballgown made from man-made fibres, ‘kay?

          • endoftheQ

            Will your tits be done by then?! 😉

          • Mark Foster

            add to the graffiti: ¨Jizzcavige scohb ¨

            • i-Betty

              Ooh, Jizzcavige sucks cauliflowers out his butt. Naughty boy.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          When faced with an unsolvable problem, scientologists know to ask themselves,

          “What would Ron do?”

          http://i.imgur.com/wlGIpPK.jpg?2

    • endoftheQ

      I’m just waiting for the phone calls asking me to donate. They don’t have anyone “in” to call in the UK, as far as I know… 😉

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        You still get calls?

        • endoftheQ

          Yup. I think the UK gets $cientology-Lite compared to the USA. If you’re just “out” but not critical, they don’t disconnect. If they did, they’d have no-one to talk to at all. 😉

          • aquaclara

            “They’d have no one to talk to at all”

            🙂

            • endoftheQ

              I’ve been doing some back-of-the-fag-packet calculations and based on my own experience and others in the Bunker, it’s entirely possible there’s less than 1,000 hardcore $cientologists left in the UK. WIN!!

            • aquaclara

              and just wait til they all find out they have to go “be a crowd” in Plymouth, Manchester and Birmingham. There go all their weekends. Certain people seem to notice when Davy shoops in fake crowd scenes.

            • endoftheQ

              I heard on the Board that amazingly Plymouth’s got a whole 12, so just 988 to go… I’d love to know the figures for Scotland, I’m betting Fearless Leader’s actually talking to… himself. 😉

            • aquaclara

              12 in Plymouth. 1,000 all in. Great scoops, endoftheQ.

              Fearless Leader is one I would like to see here on this side of the tent. He cracks me up.

              From a pure marketing perspective, he is creatively putting the scew to Americans and Canadians with Scottish roots to get them to donate. Now, I don’t think that’s going to make him ideal any time soon, but the effort is noted.

            • endoftheQ

              It’s probably hideously racist of me, but the whole patron-donation shit just doesn’t fly in the UK, there’s no-one here that dumb, and that’s saying something. I can state for a fact that two people who’d been around forever at Saint Hill walked when it become obvious that the only thing being sold was “status”. For f— sake, you can buy a genuine knighthood for a donation of a $100k to a political party here, get a peerage and call yourself Lord or Lady for not much more. 😉

            • aquaclara

              Ok, you had me laughing at this. Not doubting you one bit.

              So googling for giggles, here is what’s available on the peerage-for-sale listing at the moment.

              http://nobility.co.uk/index.php?dispatch=categories.catalog
              Complete with a ticket to a manorial ball! There are some bargains to be had here. Alas, the price goes up when I add in the baronial robes, crown, ring and other special stuff. I really do want this.

            • Once_Born

              *Sigh* This is why I was never attracted to Dianetics – deep down, I know that all of my ancestors have been peasants. Exploring past lives would only teach me how to store a turnip.

            • endoftheQ

              I finally got my coffee-spat for today. Thank you !!!!

            • HappypantsDance

              The bonus is that with peerage, you actually have something people outside the UK recognize. Co$ status, however, means nothing. Hell, it barely means anything inside the bubble.

            • endoftheQ

              But. But. But. In $cientology, you get a z’Oscar, the highest award there is for zeroing your bank balance. 😉

            • HappypantsDance

              Yeah, but they forget about it with the “new unit of time” thing, so next week they’re regging all over again, forgetting all about the z’Oscar. It’s madness, I tell you, madness!

            • endoftheQ

              Yup, there’s always some ancient Italian Prince willing to marry or adopt you for serious dosh. I was actually being serious, though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_Honours 😉

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              But, but, think of the coffee, girl, the coffee!

            • aquaclara

              Oh, ok, ok. No crown for me. The price was a bit much for me, anyway.
              🙁

            • Once_Born

              In Scotland’s 2011 Census (which, like the UK, counts independents and children) only 188 people wrote “Scientology” on their form (or had it written on their behalf).

              Think about that. In 2011 – before membership went into free fall – there were only188 Scientologists in a population of 5,295,403

              http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/documents/censusresults/release2a/rel2A_Religion_detailed_Scotland.pdf

            • endoftheQ

              The stats. don’t show age breakdowns for the micro-religions in Scotland, but it’s probably c. 15% under 18, as per the British one. In my experience, at least a third went after status-by-donation and heads of households might label others as $cientologists, even when they’re not. I’d gamble on less than 100 then, as of now. Yay!

            • Once_Born

              Of course, we don’t know what we don’t know – however, the 2011 census figures for both England & Wales and Scotland probably represent an absolute upper bound – the CofS has suffered a lot of bad PR and made many unpopular decisions in the intervening 3 years, so there has likely been some erosion.

              From this upper bound, we can subtract

              > People who entered “Scientology” on the Census form, but now consider themselves to be ‘independents’.
              > The many foreign workers at Saint Hill who don’t have control over their passports, let alone what was entered on their census form.
              > Foreign ‘students’ who were here on Census day and had to fill in a form) then went home.
              > Children who have been entered on the form as Scientologists, babies and all.

              As for the future, children born to members of high control groups tend to discard the faith as quickly as they are able – group membership makes such demands on the time and attention of parents that they do not have any time to spend with their kids – let alone time to indoctrinate them into a ramshackle belief system that was being made up as it went along. http://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/education-and-re-education-in-ideological-organizations-and-their-implications-for-children/

              If I’m guessing, I would agree with you – around 1,000 active members in England and Wales, and 100 in Scotland – all desperately concentrating on retaining existing members, because they cannot attract new ones.

            • endoftheQ

              100% agree. I think every one here is certainly aware the whole numbers thing is smoke and mirrors. I remember seeing the Saint Hill mob outside the i$teal morgue and thinking “that’s a first” and then realising Mr. Cruise was filming in London. I know the upper echelons were always a bit sensitive about Saint Hill, I remember being told that there was once a huge flap because it looked like foreign nationals were going to lose the ability to reside there at one time. It’s probably in part why we get $cientology-Lite in the UK and we don’t get anywhere near the heavy regging that happens in the USA.

            • Once_Born

              I suspect that the Scientology empire will collapse very much like the Roman. First, they will abandon the colonies and then withdraw to their heartland.

              This has, arguably, already happened in smaller European states, where the CofS keeps only a token presence. However, they have a special problem in the UK because, no matter how much membership declines, they cannot abandon the ‘hallowed ground’ of Saint Hill Manor – where Hubbard lived and worked.

              The fact that they are so worried about losing the Eastern Europeans who keep Saint Hill turning over confirms this.

            • endoftheQ

              Yup. I mean Saint Hill is a nice manor house, if you’ve never seen a manor house before but the “castle” is a barely-standing joke. It surely can’t be self-financing, maybe that’s why they’re holding the IAS bash there next month, DM can always ask the whales later on to donate millions to its preservation. I think Marahishi had the right idea, in letting Mentmore Towers just fall into ruin. 😉

            • i-Betty

              Brilliant, brilliant analogy.

            • grundoon

              In 1968 while L. Ron Hubbard was playing Commodore in the Mediterranean, Her Majesty’s Government banned him from re-entering the UK, and also banned the entry of foreigners bound for Saint Hill. Hubbard was furious. He never returned to the UK. I don’t know when the ban was lifted. http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/timeline.htm#c17

            • endoftheQ

              Yup, you get told something like that, and only find out later that although they’ve made it sound like it happened last week, it was forty-odd years ago… 😉

            • Once_Born

              The ban was nominally lifted in 1980 – Hovever, in practice, no foreign ‘students’ of Scientology were admitted into the country until 1996.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_in_the_United_Kingdom#Foreign_entry_ban_and_legal_challenges

            • endoftheQ

              Ah, so it’s likely they’re sensitive to the risks, and therefore handle the UK with kid gloves. 😉

            • Once_Born

              I don’t think there is any risk of a blanket ban being reimposed (unless the CofS gets caught something truly outrageous).

              However, there is rising (and irrational) hostility to EU immigration (especially towards Eastern Europeans) which is exploited by political parties of all colours.

              A clever populist politician might be kill two birds with one stone by finding a reason to deny work permits to people coming to Saint Hill… otherwise, I think that risk is past.

            • endoftheQ

              True. But we don’t seem to suffer the outrages our American cousins do. I think if people started dying a la Narconon, or going bust with second mortgages after donating, they might well stop Saint Hill having non-EU employees and residents.

            • richelieu jr

              Don’t let DM hear that British slang or he’ll have you down as Covertly Hostile before you can finish those calcualtions!

      • Stephanie Loving

        Do you think because I post under my real name they could have looked up my address? I live in SF and am a “never-in”, however I have followed the Co$ story since 2005 (addictively). I haven’t been a big commenter (rarely) and just read everything and watch the videos. But in a Bunker conversation several days (posts) ago folks were discussing receiving flyers in the mail, and I made a comment. 2 days later I received my first Scientology flyer ever in the mail with an invitation to come in for a free personality test at the SF Org to my name, my address. I’m not paranoid but it kinda spooked me out. A busy troll or just coincidence?

        • endoftheQ

          It could be either, obviously just ignore it, or wrap it up around a can of dog food, and post it back, addressee unknown. 😉

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          that’s a pretty darn big coincidence. Call them up and ask them how they got your name and address.

          • Stephanie Loving

            good idea. I work for big law firm as IT Tech trainer … I’ll call them from my work phone. Don’t want them getting my cell. yikes.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Oh Stephanie, that is pretty creepy.

        • beauty for ashes

          hi steph! i lived briefly in SF area and wondered how well CO$ was infiltrating the scene . especially all the creative and tech people who by lifestyle “embrace the weirdness.” and sometimes have very solitary jobs. have you noticed anything?

        • grundoon

          Maybe somebody gave them your name as a prank?
          Maybe they’re sending these to everybody in the phone book or a city directory?
          Have you clicked on a Scientology ad or browsed their website?
          They could have rented a mailing list or used a bulk mailing service.

          Scientology runs on a system of (tiny) rewards and (often onerous) penalties which are handed out weekly. Each staff member and department has a score or “stat” which they must increase every week. One department is responsible for attracting new prospects into the Org in any way possible – such as by interesting them in a “free personality test” or “stress test.” And someone in that department is scored on the number of pieces of mail that they send out. They have to send more every week to keep their stat going up – it doesn’t matter whether anyone reads or responds to the mail (that would be someone else’s stat). Ultimately, the flyer was sent to you because of that person’s need to send out ever-increasing numbers of flyers, week after week, or be disciplined.

          Dirty tricks and harassment are the responsibility of a completely separate department (“OSA”) of the SF Org. Communication that you receive from them would be of a noticeably different character. Nowadays they seldom bother anyone merely for posting on blogs. If you picket the org, you might hear from them.

          • Stephanie Loving

            I really appreciate your taking the time to reply Grundoon and explain. I’m really impressed by the caliber of folks who post on the Underground Bunker. Tenacious and smart. I’ve walked by the SF Org on Thursdays around 2pm on my break from work and there are always 2 stressed out young people in black pants-white top with flyers and a clipboard by the door. Trying to make their stats no doubt. They seem pretty blank, but also nervous? Next time I’m going to try and talk with them .. perhaps a seed of doubt can be sowed.

    • Did they get the big tent back from Clearwater, or were they planning to use one scaled to their needs?
      http://armysurplusnc.com/images/puptent3.jpg

      • i-Betty

        *snickersnort*

      • Peter Bonyai

        The tent is back.

    • Peter Bonyai

      According to my inside source, the attendance quota for the event is 7000, because that’s how many the tent can hold (not the patron ball, but the Dave Shermanspeak extravaganza), and Hungary is supposed to send 360 people there.

      • Once_Born

        At them moment, I understand they don’t actually have a tent – are they shipping the original one back, hiring a new one for the occasion… or what?

        • Peter Bonyai

          According to Mike Rinder, the original tent has been shipped back earlier this year.

          • Once_Born

            Thank you.

            That they should spend so much time and money shipping such a huge item back and forth between the UK and US speaks to a complete inability to organise these ‘events’, and to plan in advance.

            • Peter Bonyai

              Tell me about it 🙂

  • endoftheQ

    Does anyone know if Narconon is still about in the UK? I have a vague recollection they used to have a house in St. Leonards and I think they still do purification at Saint Hill. The latest I could find on their website was a video of a British swimmer who did it in 1976! http://www.narconon.org/narconon-centers/united-kingdom.html

  • Amazing how unannounced inspections of Narconons always turn up big problems. Sunshine Summit Lodge AKA Narconon Warner Springs AKA Narconon San Diego also got one in 2011, same things over and over.

    I don’t think it’s unfair to suspect that if an unannounced inspection doesn’t find these problems, then it wasn’t as unannounced as it should have been.

  • Bavarian Rage

    Help me out…what’s a “Field Disseminator”? At first I thought “Wow! Impressive that some holding a position inside is a double agent – feeding us info. How cool is that?! On second thought I’m now wondering, is every public Scientologist a Field Disseminator who’s to “forward this message to all your friends?”

  • Elar Aitch

    There are two complaint forms at the start of the document – one for Watsonville 10050D and another for Narconon Vista Bay, Placerville 10257D, both complaining that treatment led to death. 10257D is closed as a duplicate, but has different name, address and provider number – I wonder if the first complaint selected the wrong Narconon?

    The excuse for not reporting the death was because it happened at the ED, not at the facility. Solid, Scientology logic at work there according to SDA Panelli (pg 17)

    The complaint states concerns about the sauna treatment. but the findings for the complaint 10050D were that the patient was past that part of the treatment (ORLY?)

    Having worked in regulated systems in other areas, a written response/correction for a non-compliance is pretty standard, but seems stunning in the light of a death. Note that there is nothing here about the inaction leading to the death, only the failure to report. So while the complaint that treatment led to death is aligned to regulation/standard 10561 b 1 a, and the report says the result is substantiated for this regulation standard, there is no finding that treatment led to death.

    One would hope that this sort of report would lead to a follow up audit to ensure that the stated corrections are indeed in place.

    • Bavarian Rage

      “One would hope that this sort of report would lead to a follow up audit to ensure that the stated corrections are indeed in place.”

      No kidding! A death was involved, for goodness’ sake.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Not enough coffee to even begin to comprehend this one. In the New York Gore case I wonder how much this has cost DM’s defense budget for what is already a 2 year delay tactic. And this because too cheap to immediately credit their $40,000? How much does a fraud case cost in terms of new business crimped? With all the lawsuits around deaths in this country, you’d think this one would be quietly paid off.

      There I go again, trying to make sense of Miscavige legal strategy. I should come to my senses after my 2nd cup.

      • Sherbet

        The legal strategy seems strangely familiar: “The plaintiff is in the wrong place. Culpability? Well, we won’t go into that with all these frivolous lawsuits being filed, willy-nilly, from all over the US instead of in the proper venue.”

        • It’s kind of the flip-side of the NAFC argument. There various parties argued that it shouldn’t be in Oklahoma, where all the threads come together, but in the various states of the parties. Here, Narconon Gulf Coast doesn’t want it in one of the parties’ states, but on their home turf.

          • Sherbet

            You’re right, Mycroft. It’s a floor wax or a dessert topping, depending on the circumstances.

            • Some people have situational ethics, Scientology has situational logic.

            • Sherbet

              They don’t need lawyers. They need presto-changeo magicians to create the illusion du jour.

            • Sherbet

              Exactly. Sometimes it’s “Because it isn’t fair.”

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          It succeeds in a 2 year delay tactic. so strange

      • HappypantsDance

        THDNE, many things Co$ make no sense, no matter how much coffee one has. All I can figure in this scenario is that DM is a petulant child. He wants to “win” the refusal to refund money, even if he has to spend millions to prevent that refund from happening.

  • HappypantsDance

    Hey Scientology, Narconon, and all other names you’re trying to hide behind: (refresh)

  • Chee Chalker

    Unless there are diminutive executives wearing Hermes blouses, I have no interest in any other versions.

  • Bavarian Rage

    Humiliating confession time. So while “We Stand Tall” is so cheesy and fun to mock (and the 80s video w/Little MissCavige singin’ w/head waggling fervour), this never-in also found it at the same time a little hummable and not bad for an anthem, considering the material they had to work with. Sometimes even catch myself singin’ it around the house (head bowed in shame!) But this amateur, never-ending rendition, along with another screamy, talentless event attempt at entertainment viewed earlier this year, have managed to wean me entirely. ‘Bout time…free at last, thank God!

    • NOLAGirl

      Change the words to “We Scam All” and you’ll feel better next time you find yourself humming it. 😀

      • Bavarian Rage

        (Mr. Burns scheming fingers) Excellent!!

        http://youtu.be/YKUOB8MN4Kc

      • MaxSpaceman

        Option 2: as an anthem to still-in public & Sea Borg- sing it out, sing it loud:

        “Flee! Scram! Crawl ! Get outta there! Blow for good !
        Flee! Scram! Crawl ! Forevermore! Freedom callsl !
        Hey la-di-la! He la-di Flee! Scram! Crawl !

      • Sergeant Pepper

        Thank you NOLA and Max, I couldn’t watch the whole thing before, now I can.

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    New 30th Anniversary IAS membership ID. Available at Ideal Implant Stations. (refresh)

    • If you don’t want the credit card chip implanted, CoS will be happy to keep it for you.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Implants are an important part of Scientology “scripture” and are mandatory for all parishioners in good standing. If you Blow or are Declared, they will amputate your hand as collateral for any freeloader debt you might have accumulated or to deduct Fair Gaming and Dead Agent pack expenses from your Services on Account.
        (refresh)

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Previous IAS Membership chip “tech” ID [pre-GAT II]
      (refresh)

    • Mark Foster

      anal insertion mandatory

  • Just to add the the joy of cross-indexing all of Narconon’s shifting name games and locations, the California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs is no more:

    Effective with the passage of the 2013-2014 Budget Act and associated legislation, the Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs (ADP) no longer exists as of July 1, 2013. All ADP programs and staff transferred to the Department of Health Care Services (DHCS), except the Office of Problem Gambling, which transferred to the California Department of Public Health (CDPH).

    Hopefully all the same people are still doing the same jobs.

    • HappypantsDance

      Office of Problem Gambling? The title makes what happened there rather ambiguous.

    • Speaking of name games, for the record (and search engines): Narconon Watsonville is Narconon Redwood Cliffs is Narconon Vista Bay – Santa Cruz. (But it’s all really Narconon of Northern California, unless it’s Narconon Vista Bay.)

      Category:Narconon Redwood Cliffs

    • The ADP was worthless, they refused to actually investigate any drug treatment facility, all they did was “ensure” that every such business was registered with a fake or a legitimate “accreditor.” The agency actually did no regulatory or investigative work, they were bullshit.

  • aquaclara

    Tony’s bucket is overflowing today – look at all these leaks!

    First, another memorable video that just cracks me up. There are not a lot of lines in that little ditty, but Pomeranz keeps it going for five whole minutes. The Flag crowd is on their feet, since, well, they probably have to stand tallish for this song. I’m surprised the crowd is not that deep. I mean, who would want to miss this big night of stars?

    Next, the BIG TENT event is revealed, and everyone should come, as long as tickets are available. I guess the local papers over at St Hill had less coverage of the tent rising, so Davy must be happy. I love how the fundraising starts right now. Increase your status, pay your annual IAS tab and purchase your tickets for the big event, where we will also have a fundraiser. Don’t forget your purses, wallets and check books. I can’t believe it’s that time of year once again.

    Not to be overlooked, Destin Narconon makes it to the leader board. Whew, thought they might have been doing something wrong. Or right. But that cannot be, and we welcome them to the list of Notably Nasty Narconons in legal trouble. Hopefully, this suit results in some reward for the victims, and a painful wallet-emptying for Narconon Destin.

    Sadly, a death at Watsonville Narconon that Narconon failed to own up to, let alone report on properly. One more is too many. I hope the family calls Ryan Hamilton today. The evidence of wrongdoing builds. Why are they still open?

    • “Stand tallish.” ROFL!

    • J. Swift

      After being called repeatedly to attend, I attended the New Year’s Eve event in 2007. The phone calls promised the most significant announcement from COB ever and emphasized the fact that he personally wanted me to attend. I agreed to attend and then received at least a dozen calls to confirm that I would be there. I had to pick up my ticket and kept it as a souvenir.

      From my 2007 post: “It is interesting to note on the obverse of the ticket that Scientology prohibited tickets for this event from being resold. This prohibition undoubtedly explained the complete absence of scalpers in front of the Shrine selling tickets to this very hot Scientology event that everyone in LA wanted to attend. I see scalpers around Staples Center when I go to see the Lakers play, but there was not a scalper for miles around selling tickets to the Scientology New Year’s Eve Celebration and no tickets were offered for purchase by any of the dozens of internet ticket resellers. I guess my postulate to get a ticket was so strong that I beat out the millions of people who wanted to see and be seen at this major happening New Year’s Eve Scientology Extravaganza.”

      • Sherbet

        J. Swift: What a smartass.

      • Anonymous

        Did you try StubHub?

  • Xique

    Hey la le la hey la la we stand tall. Hey this is a dumb de dee dumb dumb
    song!

    • Sherbet

      Blasphemy!

      • HappypantsDance

        Bunkaroos excel at that, which is why this is such a glorious place

    • LHS

      Hey la le la, Dave looks like a robot!

  • Observer

    “Pleeeeeeaaaaase come to the IAS Patrons’ Ball! I don’t want to be busted down to the RPF for not making it go right. And besides, the tent is now extra theta since it spent time in our ‘spiritual Mecca’ and had an irreplaceable centuries-old oak sacrificed to it!”

    • Snuzey

      Is it me not being very ‘observant’ or have you been away? 🙂 I’m sure you havent posted for a while…

      • Observer

        You are correct. Stupid real life. >:-(

        • Snuzey

          ah…sorry to hear that. Hope things are ok for you. I know I don’t know you, but I did miss you!

        • beauty for ashes

          obs real life should never get in the way of your art! (i wish!) its nice to see you here. i really miss your work, i am a big fan, and i have never been so happy to see a gothic zombie nun avatar pop up on the screen! just wanted to say – sending you positive energy for whatever you’re going through.

          • Observer

            Thank you! I really missed it.

            • beauty for ashes

              ha!+!+!+! thanks for that! i knew i was wrong, but that was what my reactive mind came up with, i was catholic and goth. so there may be something to that.

            • Robert Long

              Brain guy! I recognized him immediately…

    • Bavarian Rage

      Welcome home!

    • Sherbet

      Welcome home, Observer. Did you bring your magic crayons? Mark’s been working overtime to fill the shoop void.

      • Observer

        Hey, Sherbet! Did you see my message to you on an oooold post a couple of days ago? I won’t be offended if you get a throwaway email account if you’re not comfortable using your real one.

        • Sherbet

          No, I didn’t see it. I haven’t been around a whole lot myself. What can I do for you?

          • Observer

            If you go into your notifications you can see my reply and respond. It’s nothing big, but it does have my email address and I don’t necessarily want that on the most active post, if you get my drift.

            • Sherbet

              You’re dealing with a moron here. What are my notifications? I can see all my old posts, but not the replies. I really am dumb about this stuff. Help!

            • Observer

              At the top of the comments section, to the far right, opposite from where it says how many comments there are, is your name and to the left of your name a little speech balloon looking thing. There is probably a huge number in it if you haven’t been checking it – that’s your notifications. Click on it, then click Replies in the window that will open. Scroll down until you see my reply (the one that wasn’t today).

            • Sherbet

              Wow, live and learn. I really should be Amish, for all the technology I understand.

              Watch for my email, Obs.

            • Observer

              Received and responded

    • aquaclara

      Ha ha ha, it’s a holy tent now. Oops, I spelled that wrong – it’s a holey tent.
      Filled with leaks.
      RIP, Oak Tree. You are gone, but not forgotten.

  • PickAnotherID

    I thing this would make a better Cof$ drinking song than “We Stand Tall”. Sung to the tune of “*&#@ Them All”, which morphed into “Bless Them All”. With apologies to the original author, whoever it may be.

    Scam ’em all,
    Scam ’em all.
    Says the shorty who’d like to be tall,

    Scam all those WOG’s and OT’s,
    Scam all those “Whales” and their rich sons,
    Cos’ we’re saying goodbye to ’em all.

    And back to our Orgs we will crawl,
    You’ll get no promotion this side of the ocean,
    So cheer up my lads, scam ’em all

  • Peter

    It seems to me that it’s long since time that one of “our” attorneys names the State of California as one of the defendants in some of these Narconon cases.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    It’s Stats Day for the worker ants, and guess what, they’ve made a big push.
    Push right back – get these lying ads off Craigslist.

    Thursday list:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-113#post-2483558
    Last three days:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    ty ap

  • Jonathan Cummings

    Thanks for the inspirational song to start of my morning. I am just glad there are less and less Scientologists to stand tall every year. Pretty soon they will not have enough cult members to fill their big tent for the yearly IAS event. David Minisculvige, can you hear the clock ticking?

    • Missionary Kid

      Collected for the DM list, David Minisculvige. I’ll post it later.

      • Jonathan Cummings

        I am honored MK!

  • BosonStark

    It’ll be such a fun celebration: “Thousands of Scientologists from all over the world are coming to
    celebrate our wins and accomplishments of the last 30 years and I wanted
    to make sure that you are going to be there too!”

    And it’s all about the money: “We want every Scientologist to move up in status before the event…”

    Even if you’ve given a million, cough up another few hundred thousand or don’t bother coming.

    • Sherbet

      Any guesses on why the event is back in England? Too much entheta in the US? Fear of being ridiculed or picketed or being the subject of unflattering media stories?

      • BosonStark

        They wouldn’t get enough turnout. Any clams going to Flag now want superpowerz and their brains washed — not events.

        • Sherbet

          You mean Flag isn’t bursting at the seams with new superpower graduates?

      • aquaclara

        Let’s see. Why would Davy Doodles quit Clearwater? Could it be the daily news reports here on the construction of the tent? Daily photos from our own Bunker Photog on the spot!

        Daily notes to city hall about all the permit violations.

        Fairly frequent posts in the Tampa Bay Times about the permit violations.

        Vague meaningless promises to never do it again.

        And the picture of Tony Ortega and The Southern SPs on HIS VERY SIDEWALK.

        It was this last one that did him in, I think. It was the best of times (for us!), it was the worst of times (for him!).

        • Sherbet

          Ha! You said a mouthful and more, aquaclara…right on the money.

          Does this mean we should send Sunny Sands to England for updates?

          • aquaclara

            YES!

            • Sherbet

              //Passing the hat for her airfare//

            • aquaclara

              Gladly! Now, do we need a tree costume or a fancy dress costume as a disguise?

            • Sherbet

              Depends on how close she wants to get to the festivities.

            • HillieOnTheBeach

              “Now, do we need a tree costume…”

              Are you trying to kill her?

            • Sherbet

              Don’t worry; they can’t do a thing to any trees without the proper permit. Um, wait a minute…

            • ze moo

              NO tree costumes, the clams are tree killers.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Just no frocks! Might give her away. Just go cash and formal for front row seats.

              http://i.imgur.com/YUEVqS7.jpg?1

        • Sherbet

          And there’s always the chance of the eye-in-the-sky “Air SP” helicopter that intruded so nicely on the Flag opening.

          • aquaclara

            Oh, that was delish.
            And we had Tony’s Ode to the Tree.
            And many, many funny shoops. (Even that one from the cult showing more people was pretty funny, too).
            That helicopter…flying pigs…

            • Sherbet

              Good times.

          • Observer

            Postulating that the Suppressive Mikes go to England and rent a helicopter …

          • Missionary Kid

            It depends on British flight laws whether or not they can fly that low. They aren’t as liberal in what is allowed. I’d still like to see it happen.

            • Once_Born

              We have a small, heavily populated country where private flights are strictly regulated. You might be allowed to fly over, on your way to somewhere else, but not to ‘loiter’ overhead.

              That said, quad-copters aren’t too expensive and having seen this item on YouTube (which is probably not for pet lovers) I would love to see the event overflown by a high-tech (but sadly deceased) squirrel.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlJjndX-pT8

            • Missionary Kid

              I’d like to see a rat delivered to Davy on stage during the IAS event.

            • ze moo

              There are some things a rat will not do.

            • Once_Born

              Even stuffed.

            • Sherbet

              I meant the chance of another helicopter intrusion in Florida was driving the event back to England, where, as you point out, it’s unlikely to happen.

            • Snuzey

              Wonder if they’d be up for one of these? They look ace. Granted the scenery is probably better in Falmouth, Cornwall but still…
              http://youtu.be/bs4etLyGji0

            • Sherbet

              Cool!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Lions and Tigers and Flying SP’s in the sky, oh no!

            • Once_Born

              Good point.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist
          • Juicer77

            Tony, they said dress was to be COCKTAIL! Those shoes just won’t do.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              There was supposed to be a changing room in the limo, but they messed up.

          • L.Ron Hubbard

            Is that an OT ?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              OTT Operating Teller of Tales

            • Sherbet

              No, a TO.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Ha! I had forgotten all about the SP, light-up gloves for waving to the Sea Ogres……and I had one on too. Bury stole the show when she said “call your mother” to the guy harrassing her.

      • No helicopters flying above David mocking him.

  • Mike Leopold

    The political corruption that Scientology has effectuated (safe-pointing) is one of the most despicable products of the IAS war chest, and the enablers like Nancy Cartwright and other “whales”.
    Narconon should have been closed for its always fraudulent, sometimes deadly practices YEARS AGO.
    When they wake up, if they do, they are certain to be wracked with guilt.
    The choices these people make is the stuff of Greek Tragedy.

  • VickiStubing

    Wow, Kirstie. Sounds like $cientology to me.
    https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/510011563395125249

    • endoftheQ

      Aw, Krustie’s finally cottoned on to what $cientology is all about, huh?! 😉

    • HappypantsDance

      Makes me want to tweet to her and congratulate her for realizing the truth about Scientology…

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      That passive-aggressive twat isn’t one to talk.

    • Ruby

      Yes, Kirstie, your old pal Leah knows a thing or 2 about that from personal experience.

    • flyonthewall

      Is she giving advise on how to dominate others or what? I’m confused

      • Vaquera

        My take on it is that she is trying to join the domestic violence conversation that’s been taking place in the news/on the net this week.

        The fact that her comment is generalized (rather than her norm of shoot first, think…..never) solidifies my beliefs that she is aware of Scientology’s abuses, but doesn’t want to be put in the position of defending the criminal organization. (I am not opening up the DV conversation here in the Bunker; there are other sites/blogs on which to make those comments.)

    • stillgrace2

      I sincerely hope that no one EVER takes her personal “pronouncements of wisdom” seriously. The fact that she thinks she is smart enough to fire off these “jewels” is enough to make one gag. She is so unenlightened, she doesn’t even realize she is describing her “religion”, which does provide a sad, quiet chuckle.

      • mzuridini

        She is beautiful woman. Maybe a little too skinny for me, but beautiful.

        • Mark Foster

          …and a bit too reticent and subtle as well, yes? heh heh…

          • mzuridini

            I like them big and loud. To shy? Maybe she needs her rud’s flown. I’ll fly her rud’s. Rud’s on the rocks!

          • Sherbet

            Hey, Mark. You haven’t been around much.

            • Mark Foster

              forgot the {{ }} symbols to indicate sarcasm…

            • Sherbet

              I was welcoming you back. Haven’t seen you in the Bunker much lately.

              I got your and mzuridini’s sarcasm, all right. 😉

            • Mark Foster

              yeah,thank you, been living life and popping in every now and then… 🙂

            • Sherbet

              Real life does have a way of intruding on Bunker shenanigans.

      • April

        Oh, the irony of what Kirstie said in the tweet. It’s killin me.

    • AnyOldName1

      Hope everyone Tweets the Twat that line!
      I will be……

  • Mary_McConnell

    I didn’t report anything about the hospital death of the Watsonville patient because I was trying to get the family to consider suing them. Queries and complaints started in 2010 but nothing was done. Treated like separate cases. Finally they were merged into one and investigated, The loved ones were very upset. They didn’t want this made public. The statute of limitations has run out since. It’s an important story but I am glad you are respecting the privacy and not mentioning the victim’s name. At some point the all the redacted docs will be posted to Narconon Reviews.net

  • Scientology is bad enough but are those authorities charged with protecting society’s vulnerable so incapacitated that justice is just not a consideration? Or is it that the dead person was a drug addict and so not worth the effort?

    . . . Things are tough all over, cupcake, an’ it rains on the just an’ the unjust alike…except in California . . .

  • ze moo

    David Pomeranz and the flag band doing the special extended dance mix of ‘We Stand Tall’. Well, the female singer was flat, and the attempt to turn WST into a 4/5 walking song almost worked. Almost, I still think the best ‘walking song’ is Gabriel’s Solisbury HIll. This ain’t competition.

    I need some more detail about the NarCONon death. What did he die from? This wasn’t even a slap on the wrist, it was just an annoyance and something that kept the directors attention for a short time. “Why didn’t you discharge the patient’? ‘Because he still had money’. Only in clam world is that a sufficient answer.

    I must search down the earlier comments for these answers.

  • flyonthewall

    Scientologists performing Thriller at Saint Hill. That’s like, rain on your wedding day ironic – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt19ooEal8

    • endoftheQ

      Oh, so that’s what happened to Shelly. 😉

    • HappypantsDance

      This is awesome. I guess being zombies already makes the routine easy for them; they actually do a good job.

      • flyonthewall

        it’s not really a stretch is it?

        • Mark Foster

          Exactly. Homo Novus, my ass. The scio ¨productions´ are consistently amatuerish and tacky…but, hey, flubbard is definitely ¨source¨ on that phenomenon…

          • flyonthewall

            Right, most are pretty bad. Haven’t seen you in awhile Mark. Good to see you again

            • Mark Foster

              thanks 🙂

    • Sherbet

      It’s really performance art, an interpretation in dance of Katie Holmes’ experience within scientology and, specifically, the Cruise/Mapother family.

    • Eileen

      “The foulest stench is in the air, the funk of 75 million years…”

    • i-Betty

      It makes me roar with laughter when one person gets the moves wrong or is out of sync with everyone else!

      • flyonthewall

        shame on you! That is very low tone behavior 🙂

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      What’s the big deal? That’s just the regges doing their morning muster drills.

      • flyonthewall

        at least they get some meat, instead of just rice and beans

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Given that Desperate Mediocrity, the Deadbeat Malcontent, will be going through London on his way to the 30th IAS junket, I thought he might be interested in purchasing this little pied-a-terre. The decor is in keeping with his taste. Handily located and reasonably priced, I would knock down the commission (if purchased quickly) to 5% for such a dear acquaintance. The listing is not mine.

    Mount Street, Mayfair.
    Downwards of £20 million. (Upwards next month).

    Scruffy if bijou penthouse with views of 35 air conditioning
    plants and the expiring olive trees on the roof of the Malawian consular
    offices.
    Elderly Iranian arms dealing owner and Essex girl starlet
    (once bedded with recently-dead bassist from little-known Romford R
    & B group) must sell owing to wholly false allegations of toxic crop
    dusting in uglier part of Hampshire.
    Tired but lofty entrance hall with excruciating penguin wall motifs; six bedrooms, some uncouth,
    but each with en suite bathing manifestations, ranging from giant
    snail-shaped jacuzzi to purple inventions with urinal clusters at futile
    angles.
    Billiard room / cinema kitted out with B747 airliner hard
    furnishings, also to include trophy heads of seventeen African
    antelopes, mostly mildewed, but fully horned, as discerning purchasers
    would hope for.
    Reception area somewhat in decline following contractors’ plaster mixing errors,
    but still grand enough for Slavic or Shanghai five a side practice games
    (double doors to drawing room serve nicely as western goalposts).
    Kitchen about eighty feet long and six wide with sightings / views over flat roof to back of US Embassy.
    Redundant CCTV footings would make for excellent stable gun / rocket
    launcher emplacement. Spacious Wet Room could double as Oriental Reptile
    refuge.
    Suit any adventurous purchaser unfamiliar with UK traditions
    of craftsmanship, or with bizarre tastes in gun sports and martial
    entertainment. Parking in basement – space still occupied by unused
    white Maserati (currently clamped and awaiting bomb disposal clearance)
    with chamois leather upholstery – could be included in purchase price,
    according to worried Cantonese neighbour.

    Not the best penthouse north of Curzon Street and east of Park Lane, and just out of
    earshot of Berkeley Sq nightingales, but almost a bargain, if only for
    the Edwardian relic of a butler’s pantry (23′ x 19′), which might be
    sublet for a little less than £100K pa, with judicious plumbing and
    removal of elegant but part-ruined Coad stone model of Kremlin.
    Could be used as dungeon with minor changes.
    Viewing not for the fainthearted, Wednesday evenings only.

    • Sherbet

      Oh, my!

    • Sherbet

      DM just called. He wants to know if it’s a non-smoking building.

    • Missionary Kid

      Deadbeat Malcontent is now on the list, to be published later. I’m working today.

    • Missionary Kid

      Oops, I collected Desperate Mediocrity, too.

    • beauty for ashes

      “excruciating penguin wall motifs..urinal clusters at futile angles..judicious plumbing! ” the whole thing was magnifique. i know a half polish aardvark collector who would love the space for his ameoba collection/ bed and breakfast/dungeon.

  • Sid

    “We Stand Tall…”

    After 35 years of hearing it that song grates on my nerves so much!

    They really do need a Golden Age of New Theme Songs.

    • Tony Ortega

      Original video was 1990, which suggests 24 years — unless they were using it for 11 years before making the video?

      • Sid

        Yes, I was hearing (and singing along) with that mess in the early ’80s. Used liberally at Portland and Los Angeles ‘Crusades’.

        • Tony Ortega

          Didn’t know that, thanks. Were you ever told who wrote it?

          • Sid

            It might have been Peter Schless but I’m not sure on that. It was usually sung at these crusades by Jeff Pomeranz or Andrik. (not sure of the spelling on those names)

            • Sid

              We had Kate Ceberano up on stage singing back then, and one day even Lisa Marie showed up, but didn’t sing. I remember seeing Lisa’s bumper sticker on her car “Roses are red, violets are blue, I’m schizophrenic and so am I”. I don’t think she’d done OT III at the time so it was funny to see a Scientologist with that on her car.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Coolstory

            • Sid

              There was so much repetition at those events. They would sing the same tiring songs over and over, and then march around the courthouse singing “We Stand Tall”. One day at the LA Crusade Andrik finished up his song, then announced, “Okay, we’re going to march”, and no one moved. He tried a few times. Nothing. Then after about 1/2 an hour Jeff Pomeranz came out on stage and said, “We’re going to take a break and not march this afternoon”. Even hard core Scientologists can get Crusade Fatigue.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              The events once DM took them over sound like POW torture. I’ll bet they sure missed me and my events when I left. Well, maybe by that time the pods had already taken over and I and my music were just another disappeared memory.

            • Sid

              Oh yeah! With the Eloquent Elephant ‘Dick Glass’? If you remember him. He actually got me to sign a Sea Org contract. Ouch!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Last time saw him was in that club by the Manor in LA. Forget the name, Skip Press knows it. We all jammed on Fri nights. That was long before being human was officially decreed a crime. First step in recovery: forgive the bastard who signed you up!

            • Sid

              Oh, I never held it against him. He was kind of a cool guy.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              He was. All the cool kids are gone now:)

            • Sherbet

              “That was long before being human was officially decreed a crime.” LOL but not LOL.

          • chukicita

            “We Stand Tall”
            For Pop Mezzo-Soprano or Tenor Soloist, S-A-T-B Choir
            with Piano accompaniment
            Gospel/Pop Arrangement
            Words & Music by Peter Schless and the Golden Era Musicians
            © 1990 Golden Era Musicians
            Arrangement: ©1992 Carol Worthey

            from http://www.carolworthey.com/home-works.php

            • Sid

              Strange. I could swear I heard that mid ’80s. I did get that Peter Schless wrote it. Maybe Scientology has f&^%k’d with my memory.

            • chukicita

              You could have heard it in the mid-80s and they didn’t copyright until 1990. Maybe they released a recording of it then? I don’t tend to copyright my own songs until they’re recorded.

            • chukicita

              the 1992 copyright is just for the arrangement – they copyrighted the song in 1990. Nobody copyrights songs immediately. Well, maybe Scientology…but I think your memory is probably okay.

      • Sid

        Sorry Tony, I was wrong on this. Looks like that song did come out in 1990. I must have gotten it confused with the song “We Shall Overcome”.

    • Missionary Kid

      Seeing as how Mr. Short heads up the organization, I believe it should be, “We stand short.” That is, until they can’t stand him any more.

    • L.Ron Hubbard

      It’s so Theta it must feels like 35 years of fun !

      -Ron

  • Illinoisian

    I’m really feeling sad about this victim being referred to, repeatedly, as simply, “the decedent,” in these documents (and the name removed in various places). Like when I see a grave for the “unknown soldier.” I imagine this is the protocol for investigations of this kind, but seeing other names, of the living (of people interviewed, or doing the investigation) appearing in the document, it leaves me with a terrible cold feeling. With or without a name, she’s a forgotten victim of Narconon.

    • Observer

      Not forgotten anymore!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        So nice to see ‘ya.

      • Illinoisian

        Good to see you back.

        • MaxSpaceman

          diTTo !

  • endoftheQ

    Decisions. Decisions.

    • MaxSpaceman

      * Levitate while you Mediate *

      • Sid

        In Scientology we will ‘Mediate’ while we ‘Alleviate’ you of funds.

      • endoftheQ

        Yogic hopping or pick pocketing? Hmm. 😉

  • California

    I wonder how many other narconon fraud cases are out there? And how many duped patients and their families who have suffered have not yet filed complaints or begun law-suits? I have reason to think that there are more than we know now…….

    • Sid

      I probably count in that group.

      • California

        Is there anything that we can do to help you?

        • Sid

          I appreciate the offer. I have definitely considered it, but there are some things I have to work out before tackling something like that. I did discover one way they get their high success rates. If they are doing regular drug tests and a student keeps failing them they just stop doing the drug tests long enough to get the person out the door and claim the ‘win’.

          • California

            Thank you for that insider information. One of the former scn members told us that she had fraudulently come up with the 77% success rate herself when writing PR copy.

            There is, of course, no need to share any personal information here but attorney Ryan Hamilton and his staff in Las Vegas are now experienced with narconon and can help guide you to the appropriate steps for you to take…. his phone number is: 877-848-1818, toll free. Best of wishes to you and keep us posted, if you want.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              THIS.

            • California

              Yes. One of many more, I think.

            • Sid

              Thanks. I’ll keep his number handy.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Timing is everything. You can keep it confidential. Just my two cents. Dont try to figure this out by yourself. At least consider calling just to explain why you are hesitant to talk. This is one of those times for a professional to help guide you to the best decision for yourself. It is a actually a rare opportunity. Ok, im done. Good luck

            • Sid

              Thanks. I may call and check with him. There is one stumbling block (which I can’t mention here) that could preclude this from happening. I’ll call and ask him about it.

            • aquaclara

              Best of luck to you, Sid. I’m very glad you’re here.

              TheHole and California are very wise Bunkerites – give their advice some good consideration, ok? All I know is that there is a statute of limitations, and that the clock ticks far too quickly. Wishing you both good health and happiness no matter what you do.

            • HappypantsDance

              Glad you’re here, Sid, and hugs to you for what you’ve gone through. Regardless of what you do law-wise. I wish you very well.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Sid, do you know David Love, based in Montreal? I think he’d be great for you to talk to informally – as you’re deciding whether or not to call Ryan Hamilton. Like the others who have replied to you, I strongly suggest you call Ryan to simply discuss your options.

              I don’t have David Love’s contact info but Tony would. In case you are not familiar with David, here’s his latest Narconon related article in the Examiner http://www.examiner.com/article/narconon-per-wickstrom-evil-empire-of-cult-drug-rehabs and here’s his Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007536559507.

              In case I haven’t said so already: Welcome to the Bunker! I’ve been enjoying your posts since your arrival here. Glad you’re here with us and bonne chance!

            • Sid

              Cars, Thanks. I do have David’s contact info. My question probably requires a lawyer to answer though.

              You’ll notice that these Narconon lawsuits are from ‘never-ins’. Most exes know what the church is capable of and are a bit more reluctant to take it on. I admire all of those exes that are out there fighting the fight, and appreciate those never-ins who are in it without a horse of their own in the race.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Fully understood.

              Just remember you have a Bunker load of folks, from varied backgrounds, experience, and expertise, here to support and/or help you. Please remember, you are not alone.

          • Science Doc

            Sounds like you are a longtime member but maybe a more recent Narconon victim. Consult an attorney very soon to learn your options. You can make your decisions at a later date, but understand your options right now.

    • Word is getting out on the Internet that NarCONon is Scientology and that victims can sue and file criminal charges, but our web sites aren’t making it to the top of web searches. 🙁 We need better means of meta promotion of our informative websites, stop these deaths and frauds in their tracks.

      • California

        Yes. I agree.

  • HappypantsDance

    XTC’s “King for a Day” – Heard this earlier with “new ears” and discovered most of the lyrics are so Co$. Refresh for video.

    Everyone’s creeping up to the money god
    Putting tongues where they didn’t ought to be
    On stepping stones of human hearts and souls
    Into the land of “nothing for free”

    Well the way that we’re living
    Is all take and no giving
    There’s nothing to believe in
    The loudest mouth will hail the new-found way
    To be king for a day

    Everyone’s licking up to the new King Pin
    Trying to get away with a smile
    Sing for your supper boy and jump to a finger click
    Ain’t my way of living in style

    ‘Cause the ladder gets longer
    And ambition gets stronger
    I can’t satisfy the hunger
    That bad old moon has got you in its sway
    To be king for a day

    You’re only here once so you got to get it right
    Cause life don’t mean much if measured out with someone else’s plight

    ‘Cause the way that we’re living
    Is all take and no giving
    There’s not much to believe in
    The loudest mouth will hail the new-found way
    To be king for a day

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=depsFULhqV8&index=1&list=RDdepsFULhqV8

    • 1subgenius

      XTC for the win.
      “My Bird Performs” just came up on random play (of 7557 songs).

      • Captain Howdy

        I saw ’em in ’81 with Wall of Voodoo at California Hall on Polk St. in S.F (of course). . I guess it was something to brag about because Andy suffers from really bad stage fright and they never did as many tours as you would think.

        • 1subgenius

          Yes, you have big bragging rights.

          They were much different musically then.

          A local band (Verve Pipe) was on an XTC tribute album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Testimonial_Dinner:_The_Songs_of_XTC) which is surprising enough considering who else is on it, but I learned that one of the members went and worked with Partridge, no small feat.

          Read an account of Prairie Prince working with him that was amusing.

          Prairie said Partridge had him do hundreds of recordings, and used but a few minutes, but he was OK with that.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Autoplayed right after K for a D
      “Dear God”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo&index=2&list=RDdepsFULhqV8

      • HappypantsDance

        Yes, the controversial one. How long was it banned in the UK? Kinda feel bad about the autoplay thing since it’s a bit annoying if you’re not expecting it, but I couldn’t find another video to link to that wasn’t part of a collection. Not that moar XTC is a bad thing. I wore out Oranges and Lemons on cassette 🙂 “Pink Thing” makes me giggle.

        • MaxSpaceman

          I loved the Dear God cut. I’ve written my Letter to God and they’re so similar. It’s a song that resonates in any person who is a wonderer- does the Creator exist and if so, how does that manifest in our observable universe …

          • beauty for ashes

            did he reply?

  • Anonymous

    That the negligence of this Narconon facility was able to slip through the cracks of a state level licensing body is an example of how Scientology has managed to squirm its way through a 60+ year long organized crime wave.

    The internal culture of the church does not allow for meaningful organizational learning from past mistakes, except for the manner in which coverups and blame-shifting will be administered should flap-causing events repeat.

    The existence of an OSA-like body, well funded and supported by expensive lawyers, PI’s and influential public level volunteers, facilitates maneuvering through the briar patch of legal, administrative and other compliance issues that might otherwise ensnare a deceitful, avarice-driven group. Hiding behind the protections afforded to religious organizations (at least in the U.S.) affords another layer of slipperiness to the endeavor.

    Fortunately, Narconon is coming onto the radar of members of plaintiff attorney organizations like the National Trial Lawyers, who regularly share information about trends (and targets.)

    In time, my guess is that the civil suits we have seen thus far will multiply and eventually be consolidated into one or more larger actions, possibly on the federal level, where the incredible nature of the findings of facts in the ultimate judgement will spur a group of states Attorneys General to open up a joint criminal investigation.

    The political environment has to be right for this sort of thing to happen. The church is in many ways a beneficiary right now of horrific international events currently consuming large amounts of resources from federal agencies that otherwise might be more curious about Scientology.

    Thanks to Tony for shining sunlight onto the true scale of the Narconon problem.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      A big part of OSA’s safepointing job is to sniff out the weakest, most vulnerable and least regulated points in society and then groom the least competent and easiest marks to manipulatefor that area. Hence, drug rehabs.

    • Science Doc

      I share a very similar viewpoint. It may take another 10 or 20 lawsuits this year, but at some point it will cross a threshold where state and especially federal prosecutors will realize that their limited resources need to applied to Narconon if only to relieve the burden on the civil courts.

    • Mike Leopold

      Well said.

      In a less corrupt political environment, the cult would have long since been brought to heel.

  • Lurkness

    Slightly off topic, but there is more bad news for the wee one on the California legal front. As you will recall, our proprietor recently disclosed that $cientology’s new staff contracts contain some very broad and unconscionable provisions designed to supposedly prohibit staffers from ever publicly saying anything bad about $cientology. See http://tonyortega.org/?s=non-disparagement&submit.x=0&submit.y=0.
    These non-disparagement provisions provide for $25,000 in damages for EACH “individual violation of this Non-Disparagement Covenant and/or for each individual instance of causing, participating in, cooperating with or encouraging the publication or broadcast of information that results in a violation of this Non-Disparagement Covenant.”

    Yesterday it was reported that California Governor Brown signed a law making non-disparagement clauses illegal in consumer contracts for goods and services. While this new law and prohibition of non-disparagement agreements does not directly apply to the $cientology staff contracts, it is not hard to see how it could be applied to them in some in cases (staffers do occasionally receive services from the Scientology business). Moreover, the fact that California has made non-disparagement agreements illegal for consumer contracts will provide added support to toss out these overly broad and one-sided provisions in their staff contracts should they ever try to enforce them against anyone in California.

    Here is the new CA law:

    An act to add Section 1670.8 to the Civil Code, relating to contracts.

    [ Approved by Governor September 09, 2014. Filed with Secretary of State September 09, 2014.]

    LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL’S DIGEST

    AB 2365, John A. Pérez. Contracts: unlawful contracts.

    Existing law generally regulates formation and enforcement of contracts, including what constitutes an unlawful contract. Under existing law a contract is unlawful if it is contrary to an express provision of law, contrary to the policy of express law, though not expressly prohibited, or herwise contrary to good morals.

    This bill would prohibit a contract or proposed contract for the sale or lease of consumer goods or services from including a provision waiving the consumer’s right to make any statement regarding the seller or lessor or its employees or agents, or concerning the goods or services. The bill would make it unlawful to threaten or to seek to enforce, a provision made unlawful under the bill, or to otherwise penalize a consumer for making any
    statement protected under the bill. The bill would impose civil penalties upon any person who violates the provisions of the bill, of $2,500 for the initial violation and $5,000 for each subsequent violation, as well as an additional penalty of $10,000 if the violation was willful, intentional, or reckless. The bill would authorize the consumer, the Attorney General, or a district attorney or city attorney to bring a civil action for a violation of the provisions of the bill. The bill would provide that the penalty set forth in the bill is not an exclusive remedy, and does not affect any other relief or remedy provided by law. The bill would not prohibit or limit a person or business that hosts online consumer reviews or comments from removing a statement that is otherwise
    lawful to remove.

    Bill Text

    The people of the State of California do enact as follows:

    SECTION 1.

    Section 1670.8 is added to the Civil Code, to read:

    1670.8.

    (a) (1) A contract or proposed contract for the sale or lease of consumer goods or services may not include a provision waiving the consumer’s right to make any statement regarding the seller or lessor or its employees or agents, or concerning the goods or services.

    (2) It shall be unlawful to threaten or to seek to enforce a provision made unlawful under this section, or to otherwise penalize a consumer for making any statement protected under this section.

    (b) Any waiver of the provisions of this section is contrary to public policy, and is void and unenforceable.

    (c) Any person who violates this section shall be subject to a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) for the first violation, and five thousand dollars ($5,000) for the second and for each subsequent violation, to be assessed and collected in a civil action brought by the consumer, by the Attorney General, or by the district attorney or city attorney of the county or city in which the violation occurred. When collected, the civil penalty shall be payable, as appropriate, to the consumer or to the general fund of whichever governmental entity brought the action to assess the civil penalty.

    (d) In addition, for a willful, intentional, or reckless violation of this section, a consumer or public prosecutor may recover a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).

    (e) The penalty provided by this section is not an exclusive remedy, and does not affect any other relief or remedy provided by law. This section shall not be construed to prohibit or limit a person or business
    that hosts online consumer reviews or comments from removing a statement that is otherwise lawful to remove.

    • Criminal enterprises like Scientology can not sue their customers when said customers file criminal charges or civil lawsuits any more thanks to the passing of this new law.

    • Lurkness

      For those who don’t want to click the link, here is how concerned Scientology is about the inevitable bad PR from staff and how outrageous their covenant is. Caps all theirs.

      3. I therefore agree that in exchange for the opportunity to serve on the Church’s staff and to receive the benefits available to all staff members, including the right to receive Scientology religious auditing and training to forward my own spiritual growth, I swear to forever use the full extent of my ability to uphold my obligations under this Religious Covenant of Non-Disparagement (“Non-Disparagement Covenant”). I will never do less. Accordingly, I PROMISE AND SWEAR NEVER TO SAY OR ENCOURAGE OR INDUCE OTHERS TO SAY OR WRITE ANYTHING NEGATIVE OR DISPARAGING ABOUT L. RON HUBBARD (“LRH”), THE CHURCH, CSI, RTC OR ANY OTHER CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OR THEIR STAFF, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS OR TRUSTEES, IN WHATEVER CAPACITY, OR ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES, MATERIALS, TECHNOLOGY AND SERVICES OF THE SCIENTOLOGY RELIGION. I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THIS NON-DISPARAGEMENT COVENANT APPLIES NOT JUST WHILE I AM SERVING ON THE CHURCH’S STAFF BUT ALSO IN PERPETUITY, SHOULD I EVER LEAVE STAFF.

      4. The term DISPARAGE means:

      A. Comments and statements (oral or written) that could or do negatively affect or cast the Church, LRH, CSI, RTC or any Church of Scientology, their staff, officers, directors, or trustees or the religious practices, materials, technology and services of the Scientology religion (“Staff and Religious Practices”) in a negative light.

      B. Comments and statements (oral or written) that could or do harm the reputation of the Church, LRH or any Church of Scientology, CSI, RTC and Scientology Staff and Religious Practices including, but not limited to, negative or derogatory comments and statements about financial status, operations, and the character of any Church of Scientology or its senior staff ecclesiastical leadership.

      C. Comments and statements (oral or written) that could or do harm the Church, CSI and/or RTC’s relationship with any Scientology parishioner(s) including, but not limited to, comments that could or do harm any Scientology parishioner’s confidence in or hinder their spiritual growth in the Scientology religion or progress up The Bridge.

  • If you want to Tweet to these murderers, Here Is Their Twitter Account which you can use to inform them about what you think.

  • Remember when The Sun snuck in a journalist to the “sinister” Saint Hill shindig 2 years ago?

    http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/sun-journalist-sneaks-into-sinister.html?q=Saint+hill

    • Sid

      I do remember that. It was one of the catalysts for heavy security at events.

      • AnyOldName1

        Which led to the Air Apostate flyovers! LOL.

    • MaxSpaceman

      wonderful post !

    • endoftheQ

      “He (DM) boasts about it ($cientlogy) rescuing thousands of addicts, although what they’re addicted to is not made clear.” No-one in $cientology is ever. Clear. 😉

  • Also these Scientology crooks claim to be “non profit” on their Facebook Page which has exactly 3 “likes.”

  • Observer

    This seems appropriate … *refresh*

    • Eileen

      People die sooner in Scientology.

      • Observer

        And often more horribly.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          And more often.

          • Mark Foster

            But it´s just a meat sack, right?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Of course.

  • aquaclara

    Off topic. With deepest respect to all those who hurt, and in remembrance of all those who were lost on 9/11.
    (Refresh)
    This is a sculpture by H. Seward Johnson, located across from the Twin Towers, as it was following 9/11. It’s called Double Check.
    The firemen thought it was a real person, in shock after the towers fell, and went to rescue him. Word is that it gave them a good chuckle, one of very few that day, to find out it was bronze.

    • As he’s a Bunker hero it’s worth giving him a bit of link love:

      Lawrence Wright on 9/11 fallout:
      http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages

      • aquaclara

        Thanks. This is a great link to an unknown story. There are also two good stories about Konstantin Petrov and his lost WTC photos in the same link.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Thank you for this link. I would have missed an important story.

    • Also with remembrance… This picture was taken as part of a set by a part-time FDNY, full-time auditor, who escorted the VM into and around the Ground Zero area (where VMs weren’t permitted). By the shifting shadows in the set of photos, they were there for some time. In some of the pictures, the VM poses in the foreground, apparently helping out the real workers in the backgound, and yet his yellow VM t-shirt remains spotless in that environment. Yellow t-shirts are dirt-magnets even in normal situations. Also, there’s something about his posture that suggests the bucket is near empty, and not full of a load of rubble.

      • aquaclara

        The clean yellow t shirt and equally spotless blue pants are odd, or it suggests that the pic was taken before any work was done. That grey, gritty dust was everywhere for weeks. And it didn’t just brush off. I can’t wrap my head around New York’s Bravest and full-time Scientologist.

        • From the series of photos, and the moving shadows, he was there for some time, and still spotless. I have the name of the FDNY somewhere. It was posted on a Scientologist Nikkon UK camera site. Gone but I archived it.

          A great shot, except for that useless VM hunkered down behind the real workers (note shadow):

  • L.Ron Hubbard
  • Mark

    Breaking news on the IAS Gala arrangements at Saint Hill (refresh):

    • Artoo45

      Aren’t they past tents by now?

      • Mark

        They ought to be—far too intent on their in-tents in-tent-ions, lacking in tent-ativeness and wondering where the LRH Memorial Underpants have got to now—they still need a tent-cosy…

        • Sherbet

          Draped over the London Eye as a welcome banner to IAS visitors coming through Heathrow?

          • Observer

            If Scientology is doing anything with the London Eye, it would be most appropriate if they were to drape an Eye of Sauron banner over it.

          • Mark

            There are rumours the fire-brigade in East Grinstead impounded them for use as a rescue-blanket.

            • Sherbet

              Something Hubbard-related being used for the good of the community? Impossible!

            • Mark

              It’s amazing how the prospect of having to jump into a vast pair of Ron’s antique undercrackers gives even the most desperate individuals a renewed zest for life…

            • Sherbet

              “I want to live! I’ll back off from the ledge! Just PLEASE put away the, um, ‘rescue blanket.'”

        • Once_Born

          Stop Press: David Miscavige arrested for ‘Loitering within tent’.

      • DrGreatCham

        “Aren’t they past tents by now?”
        Yes, they’re meeting in bungalows.

        h/t Mr. Julius H. Marx

        • joan nieman

          OMG! You guys are hilarious with all the tent jokes. Very tense.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yes, past tense, definitely.

      • Dr_Orpheus

        Before their temple was built, the ancient Hebrews are supposed to have worshipped in a tent called the tabernacle. His COBness should rename the COS tent, the Thetan Tabernacle, to appear more ecclesiastical.

      • Jgg2012

        Their followers are not con-tent anymore.

    • i-Betty

      Oh no, that’s so funny!

    • ze moo

      But either of the loos have toilet paper?

      • Sherbet

        Leftover TWTH from Ferguson.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Ding Ding Ding! Give the little lady her prize, Dorothy.

          • Sherbet

            As long as my prize isn’t leftover TWTH from Ferguson.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I could ask my extended family to save some of their genuine Ferguson trash for ‘ya. No, don’t thank me. You’re worth it!

      • Mark

        As big beings at cause over MEST, GAT II OTs brimming with command intention scoff at mere loo-roll. Besides, there’s always the grass.

      • Scientology customers must bring their own.

    • L.Ron Hubbard
  • Observer

    Finally listened to the song, as much of it as I could take, anyway, and all I have to say is: needs autotune.

    • Eileen

      Did you see the part where he says “diggety, diggety, boom”?

      • Observer

        I only made it to about three minutes. Gah!

        • Mark

          I have just squandered five minutes and fifty-five seconds of my remaining time on earth that I can ill afford 🙁

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I just watched the grand finale. Reminds me of The Young Caucasians spiffy singing routine of “What Did I Say” on SNL. Ray Charles was amused.

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        That was my favorite part.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Fuck,now I have to listen to it. Can you give me a minute marker?

        • Jimmy3

          It’s like 3:38ish and it’s awesome.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Thx Jimmy!.He sure has the cult dance down.

  • Artoo45

    Oh, lawdee la, but that was like the finale in some shitty club not-quite-on-the-Strip in Vegas . . . no, Henderson . . . no, Elko.

    • IBBy

      as long as youre not ripping on Reno 😉 (my stomping grounds)

  • it hasn’t been mentioned in any of recent lawsuits filed against the Watsonville facility by Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton, for example.

    Well damn, I hope that somebody contacts a family member and informs them of their options to sue these filthy criminals.

    • Espiando

      Sue for what exactly? The only thing coming out of this investigation is that Narcofraud didn’t do their paperwork. We don’t know what led to this woman’s death or whether or not they were culpable. Like Grace said, we need the police report on this to draw any conclusions.

      • Wrongful death, obviously.

        • Espiando

          Again, is Narcofraud culpable in this instance? Where’s the police report proving this? Where’s the coroner’s report proving this? We need dox, and so would Hambo.

  • stillgrace2

    Forgive me if this has already been discussed. I am rushing out for the day soon and can’t read all comments until tonight. The victim died in a hospital. There must have been a death certificate. Surely the police were notified and there was an investigation, right? It’s atrocious that Narconon waited a year to report the death to the California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs. But what about the local police? How did this not make headlines, at least in the local papers? Something stinks, as usual.

    • Drug addicts die and disappear quietly. 🙁 This wasn’t the son or daughter of a rich white politician parasite, after all.

      • stillgrace2

        … so sad. Drug addicts can be the victims of criminal neglect and malfeasance, and they have the same rights to justice as any human being. I know you know this, DamOT; I’m just on a rant.

        • Mooser

          I don’t know, the way I hear it, when a “drug addict” enters treatment he, or she, is at least for the term of the treatment, no longer a drug addict” They are a “patient”, being treated for an illness. If it’s an out-patient program, he or she may be a “client”
          But if they are in treatment, they are a patient, and have the rights all patients have.

          • Sherbet

            I think they’re called “students” in narconon. I believe I read that somewhere.

          • Juicer77

            That brings up an interesting legal point. Does the status of a patient/student depend on the wording in the agreements they sign? If so I forsee a bunch of shady medical practitioners having “visitors” sign forms to let them out of medical/legal liability.

            • Once_Born

              The duty of care, surely, does not depend on the wording of a contract..?

            • Juicer77

              In human terms, no, but in the legal world… ?

            • Chee Chalker

              You can’t waive negligent behavior. IMO, the Narconon model is negligence, from beginning to end.

            • Juicer77

              Agree x 1000. Just wondering about the legal aspects, since NarCONon tries to claim it is and is not a medical/treatment facility, depending on their liability.

            • Chee Chalker

              Idk what their admittance dox state or how they register themselves with the state but since they advertise as a drug rehab, they would hard pressed to deny that is what they are holding themselves out as.
              They also claim, IIRC, that there is medical staff on site. Even if they were not a drug rehab per se, they still have to maintain a basic standard of care and failure to do that is negligence.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Except when they are in Narconon…………then they are a ‘student’.

    • Ruby

      “SDA Panelli further stated that because the death did not happen at the facility, it was not reported to ADP.”
      See, obviously, since she died at the hospital, they had nothing to do with anything so why bother reporting it?
      This is disgusting.

      • Sherbet

        Ah, so if I run over pedestrians who are then brought to a hospital, I don’t have to report it?

        • Ruby

          you got it.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thank you all. Here I thought there could be no logical explanation. Doh!

        • Observer

          Note to self: stay away from Boston!

          • Sherbet

            You’re spoiling all my fun! Vroom! Vroom!

          • Captain Howdy

            You don’t know the half of it. These Massholes drive like killer assholes. When I first came out here and I thought they’d stop for pedestrians like they do in civilized places, I almost bought the farm a few times. They actively try to make street pizza out of you.

            • Sherbet

              What Howdy says: True.

            • Jimmy3

              Massholes.

  • endoftheQ

    OT. I’m just curious, did anyone ever try to get $cientology tarred as a vexatious litigant back in the day, or is it just not possible outside of California?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation#United_Kingdom

  • Mike Leopold

    WE STAND TALL is the hypnotic anthem of a dystopian cult.
    I just loved the flashing lights…

    • Sherbet

      It’s not the same without the fuzzy sweaters.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist
        • Sherbet

          Anyone got any worms to stuff into their mouths? Also for the baby birds.

          • Eileen

            Baby raptors

            • Sherbet

              Which photo? 😉

            • Eileen

              Certainly not the pigeons;)

      • Observer

        And Captain Miscavige’s ghastly Hermes shirt

        • Sherbet

          Is that what that is? I didn’t recognize the logo, not being a Rodeo Drive customer.

          • Observer

            Those prints were all the rage among a certain crowd in the late 80s/early 90s. One of my former workplaces was infested with them.

            • Sherbet

              Wait a minute. I had a silk running suit (not for real running) with chains and stirrups and all sorts of hardware printed on it. That print? You mean I was fashionable and didn’t know it? Imagine that. I’m a regular David Miscavige in the couture department.

            • Observer

              As long as you’re a regular David Miscavige in the Couture Department and not a regular David Miscavige in the Having People Thrown Into The Open Cesspool At Int Base In the Middle Of The Night And Gleefully Looking On As You Lounge In Your Expensive Bathrobe And Pajamas While Smoking Expensive Cigars Department.

              Suddenly I feel like Jaden Smith …

            • Jimmy3

              Aha! I knew you weren’t the real Observer.

            • Observer

              You Are Not A Baby So You Are Not Intelligent.

            • Sherbet

              Uh, OK. I’m not. And leave the shift key alone, Jaden.

            • beauty for ashes

              i thought it was versace knockoffs everybody wore.

          • Elar Aitch

            It couldn’t look any worse, if it was pure polyester

        • HappypantsDance

          I’ve never really understood paying a lot of money to look that awful.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Not good without sadly seeing who is missing or slaving away in the,RPF…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNh1j3dsp8

        • Sherbet

          I love the comments. What an eye-opener.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Me,too. Gee, Nicloe North seems to be speaking in theatan tounges

        • Eileen

          I like the last scene with Hubbard on a skateboard.

          • i-Betty

            Ha!

            It’s really well done. I love the comments and embedded links. Must have taken ages to do.

        • MaxSpaceman

          wonder if there is more footage of El Ron El Rey on parade …

          • MaxSpaceman

            Hisself is being adored and appears intoxicated with it.

  • Truthiwant

    A sneak preview of the stage of this year’s IAS event…

    • VickiStubing

      But they don’t take Discover!

  • i-Betty

    David Pomeranz with your favorite song!

    You’re going to love this.

    You lied to us, Tony. Why would you lie to us? You never lie to us.

    *blinks back astonished tears*

  • i-Betty

    Oh, no. RIP Robert ‘Throb’ Young, founding member of Primal Scream. This song, among many other Primal Scream songs, was part of the soundtrack to my youth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnkjvECEQr4

    • MaxSpaceman

      (link not available in New York)

      • i-Betty

        Boo. Well it’s Movin’ On Up, because I couldn’t pick a favourite and it was the first one I thought of 🙂

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    How are these people able to continue their scams?
    Help stop ’em here:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-113#post-2483558

    God forgive you, Bill Benitez, for starting Narconon:

  • Simi Valley

    Posting here for Pete Griffiths:

    From: Shakey Ass
    To:
    Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:11:58
    Subject: IASP Anniversary Re-enactment Date

    Dear Xxxxx,

    I wanted you to be one of the first to know as an SP! The date for the IASP Anniversary at Saint Hill is 17-19 October!

    Thousands of SPs from all over the world are coming to celebrate our wins and accomplishments of the last 64 years and I wanted to make sure that you are going to be there too!

    It will be epic, and believe me YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS IT!

    I need your help to spread the word and get as many of your SPs and even fellow SPs to book their flights to the UK and buy their Pub Crawl tickets now.

    The live event will be held on Friday 17 October, followed by the Pub Crawl on Saturday 18 October. We want every SP to move up in status before the event and new SPs will be presented on stage at the Crawl! So use this momentous occasion to get anyone and everyone you know to upgrade – there is no better time to do so than
    right now!

    Let me know back so that I know you will be there and who else you are planning on bringing with you.

    ARC,

    Shakey Ass
    Director of Field Debris
    IASP Administrations

    P.S: Contact me if you need more details on Pub Crawl tickets. They are selling out like hot cakes. And remember the Scientologists are also holding their 30th IAS event at Stain Hill this year. They moved to
    Clearwater last year as we almost ruined the last one at Stain Hill and now they are back at Stain Hill just to prove that they didn’t move to Clearwater because of us. Fail.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Nice one, Pete.
      Go get ’em.

    • i-Betty

      I’m in!

      • Elar Aitch

        We expect pix i-Betty

  • aquaclara

    Narconon’s Nathan Tuddenham reported back on the 4 Class A deficiencies (those involving imminent danger to residents) and 4 Class Bs (involving potential danger), and cleared them all up. Here’s a sampling of how they wiggled out of any further action.
    11-030, findings

    #1 Licensee did not produce Resident #I’s treatment file for inspection To California Department of
    Alcohol and Drug Programs staff

    And

    #2 Licensee provided an inaccurate statement to the Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs.

    Response: “The reason the file was not initially located and why an inaccurate statement was made is because our storage for archived files was too full and had become disorganized. We have since purchased an additional 10 x40 storage container to house archived files.

    We have re-organized all of our files, by year, alphabetically and with master lists, to ensure that files are
    easily found and well organized.”

    So now whenever someone else dies in a Narconon, well, the records will be easy to find.

    RIP Watsonville Narconon victim. And for the family members, I am sorry for your loss.

    • I bet he means that they dug up a scrap 8×40′ shipping container, unless they found a really big dumpster!

  • I think the issues with Narconon are heavily indicative of the general attitude towards addicts in this country. There’s not nearly enough care or compassion towards people who suffer from addiction and it’s heavily stigmatized. I hope that the attitude will start changing, but until it does Narconon will be able to roam free among the vulnerable masses.

    How can they have the Gala in England without the tent! Did the tent get shipped back?

    You’re going to love this.

    I did not, Tony. I did not love it at all. I wish Scientologists would do something cool like the rest of the religious nuts. Maybe play with poisonous snakes or something.

    • Eileen

      Tent was shipped back

      • Poor guy. Having to go through all this. Scientology are terrible owners for him. They should give him to someone who won’t make him travel so much.

        • DrGreatCham

          Yeah, like a circus…

  • nottrue

    Way to go Pomeranz………..

  • Juicer77

    For the love of Pete, is there something precious about this particular tent? It’s got to be cheaper to purchase and store one for each location than ship the darned thing back and forth. Maybe it’s a special thetan-blocking fabric?

    • lucille austero

      They could use the Fleewinds to ship it back and forth. Oh yeah. They can’t afford fuel for the Fleewinds. Fail.

  • Jgg2012

    “It’s tough keeping track of all the ways Scientology’s barge is leaking” and their largest Cruise has been inactive for a while.

  • Jgg2012

    ” it hasn’t been mentioned in any of recent lawsuits filed against the Watsonville facility by Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton, for example.” I think Hamilton, the Gores in NY, etc. can use it as evidence, though. Yes, they’ll argue that each center is separate, but they use the exact same methodology.

  • pronoia

    Wow. Just embarrassing to even listen to or rather to admit that I actually listened to the entire Fly High fest.

    And Shaked Flash? What sort of name is that? The entire letter reads like a Nigerian scam. With faux generic phony names, titles and all. Blegh.

    And I am so happy that this narconon suit has been filed in NY. It would be great if one of the local international conglomerate “dailies” would pick it up and hopefully catch the attention of the state’s attorney’s office. At least enough so that scientology begins to show up on their radar.

    • BosonStark

      Subject: IAS 30th Anniversary date announced

      Dear Fiend of Ron,

      I wanted to let you know that I am the executor of the Saint Hill estate of
      the late very much alive (and still researching) Savior of
      the Universe, the Sultan of Suitcases of Cash, L. Ron Hubbard.

      We are humbly inviting you to partake of a unique opportunity, a gala IAS event
      at Ron’s old hideout, Saint Hill, where we will celebrate our accomplishments
      of the last 30,000,000,000,000 (thirty trillion) years.

      I need your help to spread the word and get as many of your selectees and
      fellow superdupes to book their flights to the UK and buy their Patrons Ball
      tickets now, now, now!

      This is also a Golden Age opportunity to up your status with the IAS, and
      become the ultimate platinum destroyer and builder of civilizations, of which
      only a select number of thetans will qualify.

      In order to see if you qualify for this special status, forward your full
      credit history, bank account numbers, passwords etc. to me and I will make sure
      you are entered into a special drawing to free up 12,000,000 (twelve million) euros
      for your personal disposal, which will be sent to Ron at the implant station on
      Mars.

      ARC,

      Shakedown Scambutt
      Director of Reg Cycles
      Office of IAS Ministerial and OT Financial Affairs

      • pronoia

        LOL!

    • Science Doc

      We should all stake out Scientology names like pirate names, in the spirit of Shaked Flash. I call dibs on Slurred Speech.

      • i-Betty

        I’m Blistered Knuckle.

        • aegerprimo

          I’m Black Bess Flint.

          • Sandy

            OH – maybe related! I’m Mad Mary Flint

            • Sherbet

              Meet Red Jenny Rackham.

            • aegerprimo

              Oh Hai Sister! ♥

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        How about a scientific method?

        http://www.piratequiz.com/

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just as Capone was felled with an ordinary tax project, I couldn’t help thinking how it would be the ultra irony of all ironies if Miscavige was felled with an ordinary CF project.

    CF (Central Files – moldy, rat nest basements of row after row of dented crusty cabinet files for folders of anyone’s name scientology has gotten by hook or crook. There are always CF Projects going on somewhere in the world for the last half century. You could have a dozen folders for one person due to last name changes, address changes typos, you name it. You can bet that the bulk of names in them are either dead or gone for decades and then there are family members, friends or associates names that were never involved but you put on one of their endless forms or came up in a session. Mildewed chaos – it is the perfect representation of the mind of the scientology organization. Of course, it is also a not so pretty picture of one of Hubbard’s OCD’s. A common ethics penalty or punishment was to assign you to a CF file project if that helps paint the picture. Now and then some desperate soul will claim a project is done, but by that time, usually years later, it is an out of date mess just like it was from the beginning. And it never really gets done. People have disappeared in them there basements.

    Central Files are part of Division 2 on the scientology org board. Considering the shape it is in, it’s important to know that CF is the network feeding veins that tunnel to the screeching regges, the Sales arena, Methusa’s movable head. That’s why I had to laugh when I saw the Narconon response claiming they have cleaned up and finished a CF Project. I don’t believe it. That’s headline worthy in scientology land. It’s like the seas were parted, the heavens torn asunder and the rainbows spit out unicorns. To me, it’s another sign!

    http://i.imgur.com/axpEpfT.jpg?3

    • Sid

      This is so true.

    • Jimmy3

      I thought organizing files was a party in Scientology!

  • outraged

    Narconon experiments on children. They should all be shutdown immediately. This travesty of a rehab center was allowed to flourish and prosper all over country for years and years, killing people right and left.

    The state got paid off, the right palm was greased and ScientoLIEogy continued it’s forced march right through the hearts and minds of Americans. Decades ago Narconon was highly recommended for drug abusers and it wasn’t doing shit then either! The LIES of DM/LRH have infiltrated into cracks and crevices far away from Clearwater and LA.

    NarConned killing factories must be taken down brick by brick. Vitamins for Heroin Addicts is over.

    • April

      It’s mind boggling that Narconon is able to bill insurance companies, because #1 there’s no legitimate experimental research data to support their program’s effectiveness or safety (especially considering recent deaths of patients), and #2 they falsely claim licensed physicians and/or nurses on site. I’m on the East coast, perhaps someone from California could file a complaint with the CA Department of Insurance’s fraud division? At the very least it could get state agency staff snooping around at their California facilities that could actually bring criminal charges. Here’s a link to the agency if anyone in CA is interested in pursuing this angle: http://www.insurance.ca.gov/0300-fraud/0100-fraud-division-overview/

      • Chiropractic also defrauds insurance companies, they get away with it even more and there’s 0 evidence that Chiropractic works.

        • outraged

          well, actually, I know many people who benefit greatly from their chiropractors. Some Chiropractors are frauds, definitely not all. ALL of the Narconned facilities are very dangerous jokes. It is all ScientoLIEolgy all the time. They do NOT care about your drug addiction.

          No one not matter how well intentioned can do any healing with blinders on. Healing does not live with discrimination, forced disconnection, selfishness.

        • April

          There is some supportive recent scientific research for chiropractic in respected medical research journals, for example the New England Journal of Medicine. However, there’s zilch, nada, zero independent research on any of CO$/Narconon’s treatment methods or claims. My concern is that CO$ somehow infiltrates the legitimate research community, although I’m certain any statistically significant results would not be with double-blind studies involving a large number of participants and their results would be viewed skeptically by the legitimate medical community because the results would not be replicable in follow-up studies by independent researchers.

  • Baby

    I SAID, ” WE STAND TALL YOU F*CKERS !! ” (REFRESH DAMIT )

    [IMG]http://i62.tinypic.com/2yzdhyp.gif[/IMG]

    • DeElizabethan

      Hilarious! I can just hear it and LMAO

      • Baby

        Hey Rev.. I know..I have been waiting for the perfect time to post this..and after hearing Pomerass and company Screechin it.. I knew it was time! haha

    • i-Betty

      Heehee!

      • Baby

        Ohhh I knew you would show up i Betty.. This has you written all over it..ha

        • i-Betty

          It’s sooooo perfect 😀

  • Jimmy3

    – Licensee did not notify the Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs of Decedent’s death until one year after the death of the Decedent.

    – Licensee did not send a report of the death of Decedent until one year after Decedent’s death.

    Dottin T’s, crossing I’s. Probably spell-checking and word-clearing the necessary paperwork manually. Hell, I don’t trust Word’s spell-check function either. Who knows if they even have Office/Word on their computers? Who knows if they even use computers? Maybe they type everything up on typewriters like ol’ Hubs did. The point is, paperwork takes time: days, weeks, even years. Maybe they deserve the benefit of the doubt here.

    • Elar Aitch

      After one year they gave up in frustration and picked up the phone…

      • Jimmy3

        A rotary phone, no doubt.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      The probably have a pirated copy of this to use. (F5)

  • truth will set u free

    I am wondering why the Gores couldn’t petition Amex for a refund of their payment based on the fraudulent claim of services not rendered./ misrepresented. I know it’s probably a moot point now but that is one of the “privileges” of American Express membership unless they have changed their policies.

    • Science Doc

      They did. It’s mentioned in the ruling.

  • Cymboli

    Compared to all the Scientology Music and Promotional videos, “We Stand Tall” is really not THAT bad.

    • Jimmy3

      I’m looking forward to D Pomz Covers The Hitz, Volume I.

      • Captain Howdy

        After 3 or 4 double pink lemonades and vodka I sometimes slap on the HP’s and enjoy listening to a rollicking version of ‘We Stand Tall” or “Galactic Patrol”. They’re bot kinda catchy in their own ironically demented way. I’ll take “We Stand Tall” over “We Are The World” or ” We Built This City On Rock’n’Roll” anytime.

        http://youtu.be/A5qOxlC61Xo

        • Jimmy3

          Yes… I too… am usually drunk… when I do that…

        • MaxSpaceman

          Love that Captain Bill Robertson. Operatic- Space Operatic.

        • Tony Ortega

          Hey, those are my slides!

      • Artoo45
        • Jimmy3

          Now that is hilarious. Nice work.

    • flyonthewall

      you’re right, it’s worse

  • Mommy says a few dead parishioners is an acceptable price to pay for clearing the planet.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      HOW.DARE.HER!!!

    • Science Doc

      When will you take the big fall for Xenu/Davy/Ron/Mommy?

    • Jgg2012

      Ask Mommy where Shelly is.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    What do you call 4 $cientologists?
    A poker of knaves.
    Deal them out here:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-113#post-2483558
    Scroll down for lengthy additions (ty Hyder and Rip)

    A $cilon practising her aim – note Tone Scale in background (ty Black Rob)

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      That’s a really weird picture.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        That’s the infamous footbullet jpg.

    • Captain Howdy

      “Leave the e-meter..take the gun”

    • Science Doc

      That gun won’t save her from falling off a roof or flying out of a window.

      • TheMirrorThetan

        She will need it for the “assisted suicide” when she stops donating big money to Dave’s Im gonna piss off and hide in luxury fund.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Someone needs to shop Diminutive Dave’s head on the pic.
      Every stupid thing he does lately is a foot-bullet.

      • Or his sister, with the frown turned upside down.

  • aquaclara

    I wish the Gores continued success with their suit, and hope their family member is doing well now. The Gores were overcharged for treatment, taken in by the same set of scams, lies and fraud that Narconon has perpetuated, when all they were trying to do was to help a loved one.

    Each time a new lawyer comes on board in a suit against the cult, I cheer. This one is a double cheer.

    Davy, you do know you are up against a NY attorney, right? See the Gore in the firm name? Ya think he is going to give up easily? You could have refunded the $40,000 – it had been just a couple of days, and it wouldn’t have hurt you. But nooooooooo. Davy, you won’t win this.

    ZUKERMAN GORE BRANDEIS & CROSSMAN, L.L.P.
    Eleven Times Square New York, New York 10036

    By the way, if anyone else out there is inclined to file, and NY is your residence, they might just take your call.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      good catch, Aqua. Nathaniel S. Gore is the plaintiff and also is listed as one of the attorneys…

      • AnyOldName1

        A named partner. Ooops!
        BTW, he is a tax attorney. Think if Mr. Gore gets mad enough he could deconstruct the Tax-Exempt status?

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Name – Well, there is a very pleasant thought for the night! Sweet dreams!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Wohhhh, missed that, AC. Another day somebody’s gotta say it: you just can’t make this stuff up.

      • aquaclara

        I think maybe someone forgot to tell Davy that this is what he has been up against for the last 2 years….well, he’ll hear about it now.
        LMAO

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          And if the lawyers need to know more about Narconon, they could just stroll down a few blocks, pick up the cans and a few brochures. heh. This case just got Real interesting.

          http://i.imgur.com/od8Bn8i.jpg?2

          • aquaclara

            Just pray they are following Tony’s blog here today, plus Oklahoma’s, David Love’s and Ryan Hamilton’s cases, too.

  • Sejanus

    More like…
    We Stand Small.
    Don’t turn your back.
    We don’t go away.

    We Stand small.
    We want your cash.
    We’ll steal it any way.

    OK I bailed on it at 47 secs.
    Although I did enjoy the Asian Pizza Hut commercials at the beginning.

    • aegerprimo

      I did not see the Asian Pizza Hut commericals…. I should’ve bailed out sooner but stuck it out for almost 3 minutes.

      • Sandy

        Cap’t Howdy hooked me up with some ad block stuff & I don’t have to see any of that stuff any more

      • Sejanus

        The same commercials played twice back to back off the top.
        Shrimp with everything and shrimp pizza…along with some funky looking pasta dish and torpedo shrimp and Tiramisu…you know…traditional American food..lol

    • EnthralledObserver

      I’m jealous… I never get to see any commercials! Just the damned video!

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    O/T – Out of respect to the Bunker’s NYC residents and U.S. citizens during this 13th anniversary of 9/11, I thought I’d post these two links: One is to Lawrence Wright’s New Yorker article (Sept. 9, 2014) titled “The Twenty-Eight Pages” http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages and the other is to Ari Fleischer’s (former White House Press Secretary to President Bush) live hourly tweets today about where he was and what the day was like for him, Bush, and his presidential inner circle during the WTC attacks. The tweets include direct quotes from Bush that day, photos, and images from Fleischer’s own handwritten notes. https://twitter.com/AriFleischer

    • Juicer77

      Thank you for sharing those links – amazing stuff. My nephew was born on 9-11-01 so it was a rollercoaster day in our family. Alternatively cheering in the waiting room and crying watching the TV. My brother was supposed to be at the Pentagon that day but was rescheduled. Other family members work for the federal gov in secure locations so there were a lot of panicked phone calls until we located everyone. Thankfully everyone safe. On this day I remember those who were lost, but more importantly, remember that life goes on and is new every day.

  • richelieu jr

    “Shaked Flash”?

    I cannot be the only one to find that Scientologists seem to ahve a leg up in the whack-a-doo name sweepstakes and please don’t tell me it is because there are so many different cultures represented. I’m a pretty well-traveled fellow, and I routinely come across names I’ve never heard of before (as well as the usual smattering of verbs and adjectives as nouns and nouns as proper names so common elsewhere in Scilontology) Heck, ‘Skip Press’ is one of the most normal ones! Doesn’t Mr Flash know that the past participle of ‘to Shake’ is ‘shaken’? Imagine Bond “A Martini, please; Shaked not stirren!”

    Could it be these folks were preconditioned to accept this kid of stuff by their biarre monikers?

    • Shakeed, maybe?

    • Jimmy3

      I use ‘Jimmy’ as a moniker online, because my real name is too painfully embarrassing. I was born Harmon David Bonner, and children, as cruel as they can be, took up calling me ‘Har D. Bonner.’ And, later, just ‘Hard Boner’.

      • richelieu jr

        Yeah, I’ve got a friend who’s last name is ‘Hardman’… and Scottish family by the name of McPhee, of which you can pretty much guess the result…

    • Captain Howdy

      There’s definitely some kinda WC Fields/Marx Bros weird ass name thing going on in scientology. I don’t know if they make them up, get them legally changed or if it’s got something to do with the past life thing but it’s a thing I’ve noticed.

    • Observer

      It might be Middle Easternish, pronounced sha-KED. It’s a real name, or at least it’s the name of the person used for their one measly course completion. *refresh*

      • Jimmy3

        You can’t just waltz back in here with your sense-making, Observer! But it wasn’t the same Bunker without you. So welcome back. For now.

        • Jimmy3

          For now meaning you will probably be banned for sense-making. Meanwhile, I’m going to leave before I’m banned for lack-of-sense-making. Good night.

          • Observer

            Night!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Keep it up and we’ll have to call you Hard bonner.

        • Observer

          Thanks … I think …

      • richelieu jr

        Oh I’m sure almost all of them are real names– Just real weird names.

        You know in Sweden you ahve to get your kid’s name OK’d by the government. Whacked-out monikers are rightly considered child abuse…

        Aan, of course, some of the more normal ones have hidden meanings, for example did you know that “Lafayette Ron Hubbard” means ‘Laughable Fat Bastard’ in Finiish, or “Here’s Fatass Lock your Cupboard!’ in the common tongue?

        Also, Miscavige’s nick-name is spelled COB- C-O-B, like an ear of corn, but it is pronounced, ‘Midget Sucks Cock on Hollywood Blvd, finger pointing extra.”

  • Observer

    I think this is a much better theme song for Scientology than We Stand Tall (if you’re not a fan of pretentious late 70s sound effects the song starts at 1:30).

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=voAR07ezBts

    • Panopea Abrupta

      I would offer this as their new theme song:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRhnaFaBsA

      • Jimmy3

        I still can’t believe that’s a human making those sounds. It’s creepy.

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        I just recently found out what a Pict was.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    We Stand Tall….a room full of white folks clapping on 1 and 3.

  • Gabbyone

    David Pomeranz is an ambassador for Operation Smile. Operation Smile does not meet the BBB Wise Giving Alliance Charity Standards. (Google “Operation Smile scam”).
    Oops, another one of those dental charity scams. Board members and admin stashing the cash while only 5% goes to actual dental patients. Sing about that, David.

  • Sandy

    OT – poor Ravens have been thru so much this week. Am pulling for ‘um.

    • Jimmy3

      I’d be pulling for ‘um, too, if we’re talking about pulling their entire stadium full of fans, players, coaches and executives into the Atlantic Ocean. It’d only be such a sweet bonus that the Steelers are there, too.

      • Captain Howdy

        Fuckin Aaron Hernandez! thanks to him i can’t riff on the Ravens & Steelers being havens for murderin thugs and rapist burglers.

  • DMSTCC

    Building firm infiltrated by Scientology in France. (latest update?)
    …”because they’re not the same person anymore: No humanity, no emotinos”….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmC4jPwVMyk

    • Sarah James

      His own son left because his parents no longer have humanity or emotions. That rings a bell, over and over…

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    Help!

    WARNING: I was just at a FB page (that most of us would know) and Garry Scharff posted a link to Pastebin where someone “outs” a lot of people with their usernames, along with their REAL names, and city/state. I haven’t looked at the whole list but as soon as I recognized some usernames that I recognized from here and WWP, I rushed over to tell you guys! What should I do?! I don’t want to publicize and spread the contents of this Pastebin link. Should I just put of the FB link here or what?

    I think this could worrisome for some folks, if not downright dangerous. How should I handle this so people can check for their names?

    • Baby

      Thanks cars.. I have no idea..I’m not that tech..shit… I’m sorry I’m no help.. Damnit.. Hopefully someone will help you..sigh Assholes

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Baby, I just checked for yours and you are not on there. But Bury’s is, along with her husbands!

        • Baby

          damnit.. I see someone typing..maybe they have some advice..

    • Baby

      How long has it been up? I know Bury is a member on the FB page..

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        It says 2 hours on the FB page under Garry’s post.

        • Baby

          I’m trying to think.. Bury usually goes to bed around 10.. and I don’t know if she read it yet.. sigh

    • Lurkness

      post the link so we can check ourselves and follow up appropriately or at least be aware.

      • Baby

        I don’t know lurkness..than lurkers here could read it.. Shit.. I don’t know..

        • Lurkness

          it is out there already. obviously.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Tony has a HUGE readership and I’d be exposing all this info here. I can’t do that to UTR and exes who do not want to reveal themselves!

        • Baby

          I agree Cars.. It’s a damn if you do..Damn if you don’t type situation..

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        BTW, I just checked for yours and you are OK. You’re not on the list.

    • Sarah James

      Wonder how much tax payer money was used to do this?

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        I don’t know who outed them. At the end of Garry’s post about it, he simply ended with – “OSA?”

        But who knows. It could be some hacker wanna-be kid trying to show off his/her skills.

    • Lurkness

      Fortunately, no addresses and some are wrong too.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        You found what I’m talking about? What a relief! BTW, did you find the notice on FB?

        Any other idea as to what should be done about it?

        Thanks.

        • Jo

          It’s just been removed from FB.

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Thank you, Jo. Very much.

            • Jo

              I didn’t remove it, but it’s not there now.

        • Illinoisian

          Old data? Looks like some of the listings show very *old* usernames. (Yes, I found the list.) At least, in a couple of cases, the person listed has been using his/her real name for quite a while. But for others, it does ‘out’ people.

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Yes, I know. But I also saw 2 female usernames I recognize. For instance, one is currently being stalked online and the other Fair Gamed by OSA.

            • Baby

              You have a good heart to worry cars.. thank you.. I know you were scared for those on the list. xo ((HUGS)) baby..

              OK.. night all.. yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

        • Illinoisian

          There is a ‘Report Abuse’ button up at the top. Click?

          • Lurkness

            yes, must join too to do so.

        • Lurkness

          Trying to report the abuse of the post to pastebin presently.

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Thanks. I just rechecked the FB page and the post has been removed in the past few minutes. At least there’s that. Phew!

    • Baby

      Just e mailed Bury.. but I know she is asleep..

      • AnyOldName1

        I think Bury already knows about the list. It re-appeared after Flag Down.

      • Captain Howdy

        Relax, take a deep breath and pass it around. Oy vey, don’t vorry so much.

        • Baby

          I know how she’ll react..Same way as she and I did when WWP did it.. MEH.. I was only bothered about her hubby. He didn’t sign up for this shit.. but I Be Cool Bro.. xo

    • Most likely, it’s the stale old junk that someone keeps trying to post to WWP.

    • Captain Howdy

      I think Mycroft is right and it’s the old stuff from WWP that’s been out there for awhile. I wouldn’t worry about it. The OSA is a joke nowadays.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Yeah, that occurred to me. But since I knew two women on that list currently being targeted, I didn’t want them harassed by some other lunatic who saw the list. Agree about OSA.

        • Captain Howdy

          If the OSA is using idiots like my sister..hahahahaha..good luck with that!

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Howdy, should I delete the content of my OP now that the FB post is down and Pastebin link has been reported for abuse? Or just leave it as it is? I wouldn’t want to alarm the morning shift.

            • Captain Howdy

              I would just leave it up..a little chaos first thing in the morning is good for the bowels.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              🙂

              <3

            • AnyOldName1

              And Smurfy wants the attention. That’s why he pulls this kind of crap.

            • Ruby

              Haha.. Love ya, Howdy. 🙂

            • Baby

              I would edit it (OP) to reflect that it is down.. just to update it Cars

      • OliveThomas

        Howdy, do you think there’s a chance Discus is being hacked?

        • Captain Howdy

          From what I’ve seen the dox thing at WWP is an inside job.

          • Baby

            HELL YES

          • OliveThomas

            Sorry to be so thick. Could you explain a little more?

            • Baby

              Olive.. I think explaining it any further will make it worse..

            • OliveThomas

              Okay, thanks Baby. Don’t want to make it worse. Am a little worried though!

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Don’t worry. Some of the folks who helped tonight are either Anons, frequent users of WWP, or simply have been around since the internet’s Big Bang. Trust them. If they believe the dox was stale or an inside job at WWP, believe it too.

              However, yes to your original question. Disqus has been hacked before, especially around the time it expanded quickly and became more corporate, sometime last Fall/Winter. I haven’t checked since then but I would imagine with a bigger workforce, they have better security. If it worries you, check their website for news of being hacked (where I read about it) and also Google it.

              Hope that helps. Welcome to the Bunker!

            • OliveThomas

              Thank you, Cars. Really appreciate your explanation. I will check Disqus’ website to see if there has been any hacking. Whoever posted the list probably just wanted to stir things up over here at the Bunker and my cry of alarm did not help things any.

              Thanks also for your welcome. Have been around for awhile but mostly just reading the posts and watching videos, enjoying shoops, etc. Always enjoy your posts, BTW.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Sweet! Thanks. I also wanted to add to my post that users here have never been compromised and it wasn’t ALL the Disqus user accounts that were hacked, only subsections each time. I can’t remember the details now.

              You are safe here. Very safe. It is also thanks to our Proprietor’s precautions as well that we are.

            • AnyOldName1

              The person who posted the list, Gary Scharff (aka “Smurf”) has a long history of stirring up trouble – see http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/smurf.htm. He’s an attention whore.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Yeah, I was wondering what kind of asshole (aka Smurf) would post that list on a well known FB page. Now you explained it. I’ll check out Jeff’s site. Thanks for your help tonight.

            • AnyOldName1

              Back in the 80’s he tried to claim he was a member of Jim Jones’ cult – actually tricked the Cult Awareness Network (b/4 SCN took them over) and some serious scholars into believing him (http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=32378) to include his fabrications in their book.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              *face palm* And he has no shame and still hangs around? Thanks for telling me. He is not well.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Name, thanks for the link. Smurf/Gary Scharff sounds seriously messed up.

            • OliveThomas

              Thanks again, Name. He certainly got some attention over here with his cunning stunt!

            • AnyOldName1

              Agree w/ Howdy – it originated with a former moderator. Added some names after Flag Down – probably by OSA. Trying to intimidate the folks who went to Flag Down. But, OSA isn’t as scary as they used to be. So most just blew them off.

            • OliveThomas

              Thanks, Name. I know privacy is a big factor for many who post here, so something like this can be scary. Appreciate your calming influence!

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s just my guess. I’m not a regular WWP user. But it is my experience that most “crimes” are pretty simplistic and straight forward. I seem to remember there was a mod at WWP that was really pissed and swore revenge on everyone.

            • Baby

              Yep

            • AnyOldName1

              Yep, OSA doxed some of the Flag Down attendees trying to scare ’em. But OSA is just a shadow of it’s former self. Xander totally blew off the C&D order – dared them to give him one as I recall?

            • OliveThomas

              Here’s a joke to lighten the mood. Got it from a movie a few years ago.
              “A skeleton walks into a bar and says, ‘Give me a pitcher . . . and a MOP!'”

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Thanks for your help, everyone. You guys are great!

      • Baby

        ONE thing about the Bunker we do take care of our own!

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Baby, do you think you and/or I should stay out of the Bunker late at night? Weird things happen when we’re both here. Have you noticed that? It’s the second time, at least.

          • Captain Howdy

            Since when has weird not been good? Boring is the enemy of all things.

          • Baby

            Yeah.. Shit.. Never a dull moment when we show up Cars..ha

        • AnyOldName1

          Bury still has some answering to do leading us on like that 😉

          • Captain Howdy

            I don’t think she was leading us on. I think she was just logged into a different account.

            • AnyOldName1

              Just between us – after Tony cleared it up, Ifigured it was a switching device or account log in problem. But, don’t tell her, kay?

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Actually both. I checked the content of the posts and account names the next day after Disqust stabilized and showed her other account name properly. It was simply a three way clusterf*ck. I think.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I go away for two hours and this happens?!!! Scary but it seems to be taken care of.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Yes, the folks below took care of it. No worries. BTW, your name wasn’t on it.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Thanks Cars, I saw so many people helping to take care of it. The Bunker has some good peeps. And especially thank you for letting me know my name wasn’t on it. I was really hoping not.

    • Bob

      Thanks. I’m sure OSA had something to,do with it.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Bob, there were a few people I was worried about and you were one of them so I made to look and your username was NOT on it.

        • Bob

          Thanks, just saw your comment which somehow went to wrong inbox.

  • DodoTheLaser

    My sis Dee and I got doxed, we cried all day in shock and horror 😉
    (After we doxed ourselves before repeatedly.)

    Also, I can’t believe that Karen#1 is actually Karen de la Carriere,
    Chuckbeatty77 turns out is Chuck Beatty and Blown for Good is Marc Headley!

    This is a major reveal and blow to anonymity!!!

    On a serious note, the list had the names of a very few people who probably would rather
    stay anonymous, I assume. In overall though, the whole thing is nothing new.

    The link was posted in a couple of places and is gone now.
    I’ve seen similar things being done before and no one usually cares.

    The Underground Bunker for the win!

    • Captain Howdy

      I’ve known Blown For Good was Marc since he wrote like five years ago that D.M sucked Cruise back in because he had info about Nicole banging Ewan McGregor.

    • Bob

      So OSA posted that?

      • DodoTheLaser

        I don’t know.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Friday the 12th of September

    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls,

    Statsthursday lived uo to its reputation and yielded a big crop of fraudulent ads,
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-113#post-2483721

    See Dolly &Vistaril flagging tech and other tips in the *Last 3 Days* tab of the RedX spreadsheet
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Hyder’s *last* Regional list: http://whyweprotest.net/threads/project-clearcraig.45949/page-14#post-2483653

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    ty AP

    • Graham

      3 day list done. I just love the sight of purple in the morning.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Video of Karen on Australian National TV yesterday.
    The show: http://www.jump-in.com.au/show/mornings/videos/3781016609001/
    She posted the link 2 hours ago.

    “Scientology Queen | Videos | Mornings | 9jumpin http://www.jump-in.com.au
    September 11, 2014: We found out what happens behind the doors of the Scientology..”

  • Elar Aitch

    Bryan Seymour’s Seven news piece on Scientology’s misappropriation of the term ANZAC in their fundraiser (featured on Mike Rinder’s Thursday funnies) is online

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/video/#page1

    You need to scroll down a bit for the story link.

    More at ESMB at:
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37002-Scientology-usurps-ANZAC-acronym-in-Australia-and-New-Zealand

  • valshifter

    You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave.

    • DodoTheLaser

      I will take Travelodge over that bluish nightmare.

    • Observer

      That is incredibly creepy. It fairly shrieks DANGER! DANGER!

    • edge

      I’ll take the Travelodge any day of the week. It’s inexpensive, you get cable TV, leave anytime you like, and they have toilet paper.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Good morning.

    Motörhead – One More Fucking Time

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIWfCDpSWc

    • DodoTheLaser

      To $cientology:

      “All your life is in your head
      All you dreams are in your sleep
      And if your dreams are hid too deep
      They’re just a waste of time
      When you try to chase the dream
      You never seem to know the time
      You never recognize the signs
      And nothing’s what it seems..”

      “..So go on and find me guilty
      Just one more fucking time…”

      • MaxSpaceman

        stunning lyric! thanks for posting.

        • DodoTheLaser

          You are very welcome.

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Mods. (fave era. The Animals “House of the Rising Son Sun” and the entire shift that began in ‘the modern era’ by the Mods and a societal shift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzpPy9hJYA8

  • Illinoisian

    New post up.

  • Bobby Andrews

    here is a terrible song I hope you enjoyed it. Now we we; need a check of no less that 5 thousand dollars if you wish to leave. that is the minimum for you degraded beings we expect a lot more. 10 thousand will make you one of our celebrated thetans and we will love bomb you so you feel great in giving us your mortgage for the next three months and if you need help with something ask some one who cares.

  • Possibly mentioned down below, but an update, just in case:

    The specific Narconon location was Narconon Pinecone Grove and Narconon of Northern California (formerly Narconon Vista Bay) did another name-change and is now Halcyon Horizons.