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60 years ago and today: Scientology in its heyday, and now not so much

PhoenixLecturesAh, 1954, the days of wine and word salad. Our source has come through with another “quote video” that you normally can only see inside a Scientology “org.” In this case, it’s a segment of an L. Ron Hubbard lecture from the “Phoenix Lectures” of 1954, and it’s meant to encourage members to pay $350 to Bridge Publications for the full lecture set.

Before we show it to you, here’s how Bridge describes this exciting breakthrough in midcentury literary sleight of hand…

“Here is the panoramic view of Scientology complete. Having codified the subject of Scientology in The Creation of Human Ability, L. Ron Hubbard then delivered a series of half-hour lectures to specifically accompany a full study of the book. From the essentials that underlie the technology — The Axioms, Conditions of Existence and Considerations and Mechanics, to the processes of Intensive Procedure, including twelve lectures describing one-by-one the thetan exterior processes of Route 1 — it’s all covered in full, providing a conceptual understanding of the science of knowledge and native state OT ability. Here then are the bedrock principles upon which everything in Scientology rests, including the embracive statement of the religion and its heritage — Scientology, Its General Background. Hence, this is the watershed lecture series on Scientology itself, and the axiomatic foundation for all future research.”

 
Well, here’s the thing itself. Put on your seatbelt and press play…

 

 
Now, what touching a wall has to do with designing a building, we’re still not sure, but once again, we’ve turned to Marc Headley to see what he knows about the production of this video…

This video has Phillip Dowswell and Andre Letch clocking in and then heading up into the lighting grid at the Cine Castle located at Golden Era Productions. Once we are up in the grid, we see the Int Base dentist, Bob Horne, and Pintucio Tisi grinding metal for no reason.

Then we see John Gonzalvez designing a building. John Gonzalvez was married to Yvonne Gonzalvez. She used to be in charge of RTC security before she blew in the early 1990s. After she was recovered (hunted down) she was assigned to work in Golden Era’s motor pool. She would go on to purchase and assist in building all of the advanced fleet of custom vehicles that David Miscavige has at his disposal. John was always on the edge of wanting to leave and the only thing keeping him there was his wife.

After failing to design his building, John gets some processing from Erin Reuvieni. Erin is married to Adam Rueivini and I guarantee you will hear about this woman in the future. (She plays a very important role in some major Scientology events that have yet to unfold.) After getting some more β€œbook and bottle” processing from Erin we get to see Sean McShane (Warren McShane’s son) and we see Thomas Burke and Lynn Sener. Then we see Marcy McShane and Gali Rodin. Of course in the end, John is able to visualize his building after all the books and bottles and then we see him against a sunset before we turn into a plastic CD binder.

 
That Marc, what a tease. We’ll have to get some more info on Erin, to be sure.

 
If Hubbard was dazzling audiences in 1954 with that sort of brilliance, how is his organization doing today? In this bonus video, fresh from Scientology’s UK headquarters and Ron’s former 1960s home, Saint Hill Manor, we see a “success story” which only reinforces the impression we’ve been getting from Scientology’s publications and accounts by people who have recently left. To wit: As Scientology shrinks, it’s becoming increasingly post-Soviet. From Eastern Europe to the steppes of Asia, the former Soviet Republics seem to be the last place Scientology can count on for new recruits. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

 

 
Coming soon: another tale of disconnection, new revelations from Int Base, and more!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on June 5, 2014 at 15:15

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  • stillgrace2

    “Be the first to comment”. Well, that’s something you don’t see everyday in the Bunker!

    • Sarah James

      Kind of a shock!

    • TDA1541A

      I was motionlessly staring

    • First one to comment has to wash the coffee cups at the end of the day! πŸ™‚

      • stillgrace2

        I don’t mind doing the dishes. I always know what to do next and there is a guaranteed sense of accomplishment when I’m done … until the next day, anyway.

        • πŸ™‚ Yeah, myself as well. I wash our dishes because I can handle the hottest water that my heater can put out, I know my dishes are clean when I do them, not so much when anyone else washes since they don’t use just-short-of-scalding water.

          It’s been fun waiting to see if Tony would post anything today, we’re something of a cult in our own right here in the ‘Bunker. πŸ™‚

  • TDA1541A
  • KNMF

    Scientology: America’s shittiest export.

  • Sidney18511

    I had to read this quickly cause my withdrawls were soooo bad I was ready to check into a rehab!

    • lucille austero

      Just don’t check into a Narconon!!!

      • joan nieman

        No. Don’t check into Narconon!

      • marti

        Just don’t write a check to Nar Con On. /:}

    • πŸ™‚ It’s funny. Some of us in the ‘Bunker are as bad as Moonies. πŸ™‚

  • Brainslugged

    Tony lives! I was worried the cultroaches had got him!

    • Sarah James

      Mind if I use that to define OSA and would not that make David Miscavige King cultroach?

    • “cultroaches” brilliant!!

      • Brainslugged

        That’s what they remind me of. Say something they don’t agree with and they scurry back into a cult building. Also the way they all get out of their buses and scurry into holes in the walls of cult buildings without speaking or making eye contact with anyone. I’m sure there are plenty of other similarities in case anyone wants to make a list.

        • jotted it down to use (will give you credit for the word) for when my very prolonged anxiety attack ends and i can haiku again!! πŸ˜€

      • marti

        JT is in in Cleveland filming “Criminal Activities.”
        Premise: Four young men make a risky investment together that puts them in trouble with the mob.
        Ha!! Peanuts compared to dealing with the COS.
        One haiku will make you feel good again. /:}

        • i’ve seen he’s in cleveland….my mind is too anxiety ridden to really be creative….fucking creeper peeper has really fucked up my month or so with his sleazy stalking shit…..waiting to hear back from someone in the APD to see if i file a police report or just go to the prosecutor….i went in the yard today for a minute and the kitchen window of his house was shut, i turned around—it was open! little does he know i’m soon gonna build a BLOCK to that window too!!! i am gonna have a fortress built to keep him from being able to watch me!!! hopefully VERY soon!!!!

          honestly, i’ve said this before, and i even thought of contacting a friend to go to up to cleveland if/when my anxiety abates, but i really can’t do/say anything against JT…i can’t…..i know he’s a Co$ member….but i have never heard a bad thing about him….he seems like a genuinely kind caring man—who even goes and thanks the sea org members and seems to really MEAN IT—and i think they have some kind of hold over him and i feel really bad for him, i really do….now HIS WIFE???? different story….totally different story…..Travolta? i can’t….i just can’t go there….

          once i CAN haiku again, i know it’ll be great!!! i look forward to that!!! πŸ˜€

          • Robert Eckert

            I thought about you when I saw this on George Takei’s feed: A HAIKU ABOUT GETTING UP IN THE MORNING

            No no no no no
            No no no no no no no
            No no no no no

            • good one!!! πŸ˜€ who doesn’t feel that way sometimes??

    • Missionary Kid

      Cultroaches is now added at the bottom of $CIENTOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS AND FRONT GROUPS under the sub-heading OSA http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1181954139

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    “Here then are the bedrock principles upon which everything in
    Scientology rests, including the embracive statement of the religion and
    its heritage β€” Scientology, Its General Background.”

    Unsurprisingly incoherent carrot-on-a-stick jumbleeze

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    This is an especially Hubbardy lecture. As I listened, I could actually feel brain cells melting. Usually when I listen to Hubbard I just assume that’s happening.

  • Observer

    In the first video you could hear the hamster wheels in Hubbard’s cranium squeaking as the hamsters worked harder than usual. There were a lot of pauses where you could tell he was making up the next thing he was going to say.

    In the second video, she’s OTV at 19? There are people who have been on the Bridge longer than she’s been alive who aren’t OTV yet.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Whether young lady in second video knows or wants to admit to it, she’s basically saying she figured out how to game the e-meter.

      • KNMF

        yes

      • philosofa

        I don’t understand. Please explain.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          Watch and listen again from the 0:55 mark. English is not her first language, but she’s obviously fluent enough that language barrier issues are not what are at play here. Her hard swallow when talking about the supervisor is already telling, but she also says nothing that describes what the e-meter is for (in scilon terms). She talks about how she controls/manages it, even claiming in the end that she’s an expert at working it.

          • philosofa

            Thanks for that, HOTB. I watched it again with different eyes this time. Now that you’ve explained it I can see that her nervous gulp was a huge giveaway for someone who is observing her carefully.

            • Barbara Angel

              Poor lovely innocent looking, young girl. One day she will be wondering WTF… how did I let myself be sucked into this giant scam.

      • rom661

        Even though the only auditing I had was sec checking, I could almost immediately create a FN. It was easy, instinctive.

    • Semper Phi

      She was at Flag full time, training and getting auditing for a year or more. When it’s your full-time job, you can move pretty fast.

  • Semper Phi

    The young woman in the Saint Hill video was training at Flag in 2009-10, part of the noticeable increase in Russian-speaking public, which had started roughly in 2008. And of course the metering course was way easier when she redid it after GAT 2: She had done the course before and was a certified auditor with lots of practice! Sheesh.

  • KNMF

    As always I’m stunned that scientologists don’t dissect Ron’s babble. He proclaims here that electricity is one of the “mechanics” that man invented. So obviously, it follows that since we invented electricity we’re silly to have so much respect for it.

  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Can’t wait for these big new stories; I’m particularly intrigued as to these ‘new revelations from Int Base’.

  • N. Graham

    It must be hard to keep coming up with superlatives to describe something you know is supposed to be wonderful because everybody else says it is yet you know you haven’t had any change but you have to make YOUR experience sound as good as everybody else’s or they’ll just make you repeat it again (and again and again) until you can write a success story about how much better your life is now. That or knowing you’ll be sent to ethics or RPF or both.
    Regarding the first video–boy, the 1950s sure were a different time! But obviously, the great cons transcend time–and the gullible masses keep drinking the kool-aid 60 years later!

  • marti

    The saint hill girl @ 00:14, I’m hearing, “I had so many wing swallows moving up to the bridge”

    • KNMF

      How fast were they going? African or European?

      • Observer

        Laden or unladen?

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Fried or baked?

        • KNMF

          Never mind. I just remembered that African swallows are non migratory.

        • marti

          Unladen.
          Not sure of the airspeed velocity.

      • marti

        “Damn, you’re good.”

        • KNMF

          no. your fish happened to jump into my boat.

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        I have no answer to that since I’ve been assigned to the coconut shell clapping crew.

  • philosofa

    Tony, glad you are okay, have not been kidnapped by space aliens (or those that believe in them) and that you are “back in comm”…okay, bad choice of words…but you know what I mean. We missed you!

  • Espiando

    “Sorry about not having a post this morning. Instead, here’s a special present: your Friday video a day early!” It’s nice, Tony, but it’s verging awfully close to “underwear for Christmas/tie for Father’s Day” territory. It’s still appreciated nonetheless.

    And I only have one response to these lectures: Suck my Phoenix.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Poor woman. I hope things work out OK for her, though it is hard to be optimistic. She swallows in mid-sentence at 1:27. That is what I do when I am lying.

  • Sejanus

    It is almost like Nubnurd had microscopic monkeys in his skull typing on typerwriters that go right to his mouth hole. They are in fact words…they are strung together..and they are ..nonsense.
    I wonder how often he would sit there thinking..
    “ok gonna throw a doozey at them..someone is gonna have to call me on this…..nope?….well who knew!!”
    Anyone defending this crap ass worthy of human consideration for betterment really needs a serious bit of help and talking to. Is some of it useful..yes.. THE STOLEN PARTS!…lol
    There was a reason he lifted so much from other spheres of thought and philosophy but why it didn’t and cant work. Buddhist Monks aren’t becoming one with the universe while chasing teen girls in shorts on deck, plowing back pills and booze, and trying to proclaim they are the One.
    $cientology. It’s like getting a haircut with a crash helmet on.

  • I am not sure if it is because I’m in Texas or what, but since this series started I have never been able to watch a single one of those 56.com videos on any computer I have ever used.

    • KNMF

      Based on my experience I don’t think it is a Texas thing.

      • Minion Gayle

        Ditto.

        • Captain Howdy

          Before they would play, the last few..nyet

          • Robert Eckert

            They’ve always played for me, though sometimes only after a slow load.

            • KNMF

              I too have suffered through the slow load. And a couple of times I’ve waited through Japanese advertising which I reckon is not friendly to epileptics.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      I have no problems with 56.com, I always have to wait about 15-20 seconds — video loads and then starts

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe it is a matter of the server that you are using. I couldn’t see it at home on my notebook, but I was able to view it at McDonald’s on my smartphone, but not at home. I borrowed a friend’s iPad, and off of my home router, it wouldn’t play either.

      I had my notebook at a friend’s house and was using his wifi the other day, and a video that wouldn’t play at home played there. Same browser, and everything else.

  • Minion Gayle

    “Coming soon: another tale of disconnection, new revelations from Int Base, and more!”

    Marc’s not the only tease around here.

    Off to the comments to find out more about this mystery woman, Erin Reuvieni. Tony’s commenters always have great scoop.

    • Missionary Kid

      Hahahahahah! I love it.

    • Sejanus

      There you have it…every internet argument ever…lol

  • California

    This was billed as a video about “applied scholastics” (which it is) but is also about a very sad, currently happening disconnection story. The difference between 1954 and now? The Internet, Anonymous, more and more ex’s leaving all the time, telling their stories in video and print, many suing and, in most cases, serving as a resource for each other.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/applied-scholastics-exposed-by-jim-meshell-little.118732/

    To use the Wizard of Oz metaphor….. the curtain has been pulled aside and the fraud is exposed.

    And scn in Russia? The “New Russia”? Popcorn time.

    Let’s get help for the recently duped ….. one way to help heal U.S./Russia relationships while the brakes are being put on Putin’s express train to hell.

  • Pierrot

    RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X Thurstatsday the 5th of June

    Boston has added Financial services to their many talents
    The ads are sticky and a special effort is demanded from the team
    Non participants are urged to try their hands on Boston
    OBSTRUCT / PREVENT / RED X their nefarious ads

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-89#post-2460984

    TY AP

    • Eileen

      I’ve been flagging Boston at least daily, but these seem really stuck. Someone mentioned complaining from Boston. As a resident of Boston what is the best way to lodge a complaint that can “stick”?

      • Pierrot

        Hi Eileen,
        One complaint might not make waves but if a dozen of us do complain it might wake them up to what they are allowing to be posted on their system.

        see: top of the list 1st thing : how to complain to CL
        https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/project-clearcraig.45949/page-13#post-2450070
        If you do it, keep us informed!

      • Captain Howdy

        His location seems to be on MIT property. Perhaps contact MIT and see if they’re aware there’s a cult recruiter on their campus.

        • Eileen

          I looked at that, it might be a coffee shop or other business. I’m going to complain and attach screen shots of the offending ads. I’m reviewing their policies and created a Craig’s list account so that I can also complain as someone who has an account.
          I’ll let you all know
          Eileen

  • Thanks, Tony! Yes, places where there is little to no Internet I would expect (and hope) are the last places where the crooks can find paying customers, but that begs the question about how much money people in those places around the world have that they can hand over to obvious criminals.

    Places with internet have few to no Scientology customers.
    Places without Internet have fewer citizens with free money to hand over.

    Of course going to third world countries and places with worse economic Oligarchy corporate parasite problems than we suffer from in the U.S. and much of Europe is an excellent source of slave labor, but even then the only slave labor the crooks need is to maintain David’s Real Estate purchases, paid for by dimwits.

    Bulgaria will be the last hold out, the last strong hold of these crooks. πŸ™‚ Hello, Bulgaria!

    • joan nieman

      Isn’t that supposed to be a Big Hello?

  • By the way, that “applied scholastics” a.k.a. “study tech” a.k.a. Will Smith-funded fake “school” nonsense has been hitting Facebook fairly hard recently. When the crooks’ NarCONon fiasco snuck back in to a few California public schools, their “applied scholastics” nonsense also started being talked about in social media.

    People are starting to comment about “applied scholastics” every time their “NarCONon” is in the news, and talk about NarCONon every time “applied scholastics” is in the news. More and more people on the Intertubes are becoming more and more aware of the full extent of Scientology’s seemingly endless fake fronts and frauds.

  • media_lush

    I seem to have got an actual scientologist to reply to me on one of Edge of Tomorrow discussion sites… it’s kind of interesting; I think some others might like to respond to him and possibly draw him out….

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67557#comment-1421598876

    pic of his response

    • Espiando

      Picked up your torch, Lush, as did a number of others. He’s got to be wondering why people are suddenly swarming over him.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Yup me too, made a couple of comments over there, thanks for the heads up, ML!

    • Missionary Kid

      I asked him if his wife has disconnected from his friend.

    • TDA1541A
  • philosofa

    Listening to HellRH pontificating in that bombastic and hypnotic tone of voice of his was truly creepy. The utter illogic in his word salad almost takes on a bizarre logic of it’s own, even though he’s talking bullshit. He sounds eerily like an old-time snake-oil hawker and It shows just how he was able to sell his “theories” to the unwary searcher looking for a cause or a solution. Ughhh.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      HellRH!

      Hahaha.

      • philosofa

        Thanks. *blushing*

      • joan nieman

        HellRH…another goody for the list.

        • Missionary Kid

          It’s already there.

  • Nicklowles

    You can buy ‘The Phoenix Lectures’ on ebay or Amazon for Β£25 or Β£30.

    • Missionary Kid

      Not worth it. If they paid me to take them, I would, then recycle them for the paper.

  • DeElizabethan

    Blah, blah, blah from Hubbard, Then blahdedy blah from a person I could hardly understand. This from St. Hill? As Tony says…
    “As Scientology shrinks, it’s becoming increasingly post-Soviet.”

  • Observer

    Scientology’s bedrock principals are like a non-Newtonian fluid: solid-seeming when you’re moving through and not looking at it too closely, but as soon as you stop and examine it you find it’s not solid at all and you start sinking …

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-wxnID2q4A

    • Waaay cool! Even though the girl in a white tank top falling into water stillframe is false advertising πŸ˜‰

      • Captain Howdy

        I felt cheated. it started out with so much promise.

    • KNMF

      It’s like there’s a sea of that stuff and Scientology is sending you farther and farther away from shore.

    • Hooray for corn starch!

  • Nicklowles

    As for ‘The Creation of Human Ability,’ you get a (usually completely untouched and unborrowed) ex-library copy of it for a few quid. You can read it through pretty quickly one night, but trying to correlate Ron’s writings to Ron’s lectures is a different thing altogether. Don’t even try…

  • Mark

    Is that girl in the Saint Hill video quite as young as is claimed, or is there some sort of time-warp operating near East Grinstead? I think we should be told (refresh):

    • TDA1541A
      • Mark

        “Is not only brand new car, is also brand new unshared family apartment!”

        • Barbara Angel

          Hahahahah truth in that tho’ apparently there are still a lot of families sharing apartments and I mean families, 2 or 3 families sharing the same kitchen, bathroom etc. My friend was in Russia two years ago and was invited to some guys flat and that’s how it was.

    • ze moo

      Stalin had that girls parents ‘reeducated’ in Siberia, until they died.

      • TDA1541A

        EP reached, greatest Scientologist ever , good old Joseph

      • Mark

        Yes – I read up about the story behind the photograph after I shooped it: the picture first appeared on the front page of Pravda in 1936, the little girl was called Gelya Markizova from the Buryat republic near Mongolia (so not a Kazakh), and she survived both Stalin and the Soviet era, dying in 2004 while on holiday in Turkey: http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/03/18/stalin-suffering-the-children/

  • ze moo

    I do hope that scieno ‘electricians’ are aware that the physical universe does indeed constrain them and that resistance is not futile, it does cause wires to heat up and melt.

    Lroons word salad is tribute to Professor Erwin Corey. Except Corey was fun, Lroon not so much.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHlLmYVCzKY

  • Truthiwant

    I don’t know if the architect in the video was doing this routine, but there is a process in Scientology called ‘Reach and Withdraw’. Basically an architect would touch a wall and he would instantly become a better architect. Or a pianist would touch his piano and would immediately become a better pianist. Or a racing driver would touch his car and then right away become a faster driver.

    Just like magic!

    Anyway, many years ago, I did a version of this course at a local mission and in it there was a process of Reach and Withdraw that concerned money.

    Basically, I had to take some bank notes out of my wallet, touch them and then throw them away. This process was repeated until I got a cognition on ‘Being easy with money’.

    I’m not kidding. This is the truth. I really did do a process where you throw money away and feel good about it!

    Before anyone says “I bet the supervisor picked the money up and put it in his pocket.” No that didn’t happen. Scientology is a bit more subtle than that, even if the money ended up in their pockets all the same!

    This process was specifically designed to make people feel completely at ease about having or not having money.

    Oh, the irony of it all!

    • Espiando

      If that worked, then why couldn’t LRH touch someone’s healthy teeth and have his stinking breath disappear?

      • Betsy

        Shudder.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Would you have let him touch YOUR teeth?

    • Once_Born

      I haf tryed touch adn wifdaw on my conpooter keebord and it wurks!!!!!!
      I can tipe much betterer now.

      • Illinoisian

        Still laughing. Read it again, laugh again.

      • Barbara Angel

        Question: do you think this could be why a lot of men keep touching their private parts a lot?

        • Once_Born

          If it is I… er… a friend who’s tried it… can tell you it doesn’t work.

          • Barbara Angel

            Hahahahah….remember the old expression?
            “if at first you don’t succeed, try try again”. lol

    • kemist

      If I had had to guess what something called “Reach and Withdraw” was about knowing that it has to do scientology, I would have said that it was that exercise where they Reach for your credit card and Withdraw all your money.

      • Truthiwant

        Don’t bank on that idea although I give you credit for your expenditure.

    • philosofa

      I think there is another name for that kind of process in the real world. It’s called ‘grooming’.

    • Dr_Orpheus

      If I touched a dozen physics books, would that make me just as brilliant a nuclear physicist as Source?

      • Observer

        More, since he never touched that many.

      • Barbara Angel

        Yes but you would have to send me $350,000 first. Direct deposit please no cheques.
        Maybe you’ll have to arrange a loan first but *Trust* me…. its worth it.

    • RBE

      So Grant Cardone must be touching a lot of asses and hats, and Slappy must fondle a lot of garden gnomes.

      • TDA1541A

        Or Asshat Grant Cardone fondles a lot of Garden Gnome named Slappy

    • Did Hubbard spend a lot of time touching himself?

      • TDA1541A

        He loaded what his body had become I’m sure

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Oh, that is subtle and amazing. +1

  • Go to share since it’s already going viral, the Black People Speak To Hats phenomena we have had in the United States continues apace. “Hello, Hat. How you doin’, Hat?” is a bit less… um…er… extreme than the video that is splattering the Intertubes of late. And the Chinese “smell of all the baths they never took.” Funny how human nature seems immutable at times.

    • Eileen

      Unbelievable. Did she say that the guy was in trouble b/c she knows cops because she has stripped for a lot of cops?

      • D.Y.G.

        Yes. Yes she did.

    • Eileen

      I know this video is not scientology, but it is important, hope that Tony and media will cover it. The reaction of her children is interesting. They are so evidently used to seeing their mother out of control that the don’t react the way most children would react.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        It was up on Raw Story yesterday.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Well, rawstory.com did post it, so technically Tony did cover it.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Jinx!

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Owe me some coke. Er, a coke.

      • D.Y.G.

        The pacing and swinging on the pole – that’s how kids that age react when they’re uncomfortable.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Or they’re just emulating their mommy, who swings on poles for a living.

          • D.Y.G.

            I’m trying to imagine this lady earning money as a stripper and I got nuthin’….

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I never said she earned a good living.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Or maybe I’m wrong and she just strips for cops in her free time. She’s an amateur stripper.

            • D.Y.G.

              Or maybe she’s confused about all those strip searches at the police station.

      • Robert Eckert

        I think the children are actually showing signs of relief in the video– because if the Wrath is being directed at somebody else this time, maybe Mom will vent it all out of her system and won’t have another blowup, with them as the target, that day.

        • joan nieman

          I believe you assessed that correctly Robert. You can plainly see what the children are going through.

        • Sandy

          Robert, if either of my parents behaved like this, I would of been terrified. These children show this is not a first experience.

        • Missionary Kid

          She later claimed that she was bipolar.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      She calls him racist, ignorant and drops the n-bomb all in the very same sentence. You must practice every day to reach that level of stupidity.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Obviously not part of the 1%, I’m not quite sure how she figures that having her lawyer on speed dial and claiming that he immediately takes her call actually says anything in her favor.

    • Captain Howdy

      All we need is for the open-carry nutjobs to show up and it’s a party!

    • i-Betty

      Vile woman. Her poor children.

    • ze moo

      Cheektowaga NY was a heavily polish suburb of Buffalo. The height of ‘fashion’ were plastic pink flamingos and ‘Mary on the half shell’. That town makes me doubt Darwin.

      The county Narco squad once visited the grandmother of friend of mine. She was growing pretty flowers that she brought over from the old country. The flowers were poppies. Not funny, but the heavily polish culture is/was very important there. Great polish sausage though.

      Those poor kids…..

  • RBE
    • Observer

      He’s as wise as a nebula of crap.

      • TDA1541A

        β€œYou’re as crazy as a nebula of crap,” said Char.

        Battlefied Earth

    • hansje brinker

      In 19.49 there was already a “psychrometre”, to measure humidity in plants:

      • hansje brinker

        “Psychrometre” (refresh)

    • rom661

      I don’t understand why he didn’t realize how he came across in this shot. A pretentious fucking moron. Oh wait, it’s Hubbard. I understand. My mistake.

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Narcissists and sociopaths often don’t have any idea how to gauge the effect they have on others beyond the desired effect (which is always, and without exception, control.)

        • rom661

          Well put. Night.

    • Tory Christman

      As insane as this photo looks, when we were all on our “internship” in the 70’s…we were shown this photo. What did we do? We ALL went home, hooked up plants, and asked yes or no questions ..looking at our meters, expecting it to ‘read’ (react): “Are you getting enough water?” “Yes I am getting enough sunshine” etc. When NOTHING read (reacted) we realized it would be like we having HUGE clamps on us as big as a gigantic crane. LOL…insanity in action. It’s true…sad and true.

      The worst part is we all stayed, figuring “ok, that didn’t work—we must need MORE auditing or training to get the “OT” powerz Hubbard had. RIGHT. IF you’re “in” and reading this, know this: from the bottom to OT 8…you will NOT get these supposed “powers”: PERIOD. Love to all πŸ™‚ Tory/Magoo (…I got “in” in 1969, escaped out in July of 2000)

  • media_lush

    Enty on Cruise and Sofia Vergara

  • outraged

    There is something wrong with Scientology getting their tentacles into Eastern Europe and Asia. More people are being deceived, fleeced and abused.

  • Jgg2012

    “the former Soviet Republics seem to be the last place Scientology can count on for new recruits.” Now Tony, your forgetting about the 75% of the Earth’s surface which is beyond the territory of any government–the Ocean. Scientology can recruit whales, dolphins, sharks, penguins.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Naw, …even they know Scientology is a scam.

    • ze moo

      Dolphins are well known for saving drowning humans. $cientology, not so much.

      • Jgg2012

        Whales and dolphins are both known for their high intelligence as well.

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • TDA1541A
      • aegerprimo

        Can anyone translate the text? DoDo The Laser?

        • DodoTheLaser

          It’s not Russian language.

          • Bulgarian? There were a few Slavic languages that the Russians insisted should be written in Cyrillic after the countries they were mainly spoken in were absorbed into the Soviet Bloc after WWII.

            • philosofa

              I agree. It’s totally fake. I gotta start using sarcasm brackets. I was referring to “Bulgravia”, which I thought was an imaginary place, a made-up Hubbardism, possibly a combination of the country Bulgaria and the expensive district in London called Belgravia (a rather posh area frequented by the well heeled Chelsea and Kensington set).

              I dunno. Perhaps I just imagined it. it’s been a long day.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I got that part πŸ˜›
              I think “Bulgravia” may have simply been a typo and it wasn’t a combination of anything. I remember MaxSpaceman posted that explanation here and it made a lot of sense.

            • TDA1541A
            • philosofa

              Hurrah! The legendary Bulgravia is REAL. I shall pack a valise and head to this heaven on earth right away.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              That is either a parody or from a crazy person and it was obviously created long after LRH’s death.

            • scottishinlondon

              Paradise on Earth though it is, people in Bulgravia often develop neck issues in adulthood which mean they require constant support for their heads. It is thought this may be due to the intense heaviness of their belief system.

            • TDA1541A

              lol

            • philosofa

              Thanks, Jimmy3. That’s interesting. I never saw MaxSpaceman’s post about “Bulgravia”. I’d love to read it and may well search for it another day.

            • grundoon

              Yes, L. Ron Hubbard once owned a mansion in Belgravia. I don’t know whether he bribed the police.

              Max kindly referenced my research… change (dot) to a dot…

              tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/04/claire-headley-takes-us-ot-here-we-go-with-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-one/comment-page-1/#comment-1109138831

              tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/02/jon-atack-answers-the-question-how-do-smart-people-fall-for-scientology/#comment-1106895730

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I am sorry about that, grundoon. That is a well-researched, well-written explanation. I only remembered, off the top of my head, that the first I’d heard of that explanation was posted by Max. I obviously missed your earlier posts, and I didn’t look any further to see that you did the legwork. I will save the link to your original comment for the next time I see the “he wanted to take over Bulgravia” claim here.

              Because there is more than enough factual information available to discredit LRH. No one should have to turn a typo into anything it’s not in order to mock him. The conspiracies that came of it are pretty funny, though.

            • grundoon

              Thanks, Jimmy. No need to apologize. My comments usually go unseen because I come along late, after the crowd has moved on. So I’m happy when anyone sees something in my post that they think is worth passing along.

          • philosofa

            It’s faux Cyrillic – fake like eveything else in the cult.

        • TDA1541A

          Greec perhaps? The letter Phi and epsilon are used.

        • D.Y.G.

          Well the bottom is “comrade”

          I think it’s saying goodbye

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            It says “doz vedanya” or goodbye in Russian. The whole thing means goodbye, comrade. You are correct DYG.

            • D.Y.G.

              The “n” in that word is pretty hard to make out.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Yep. I thought it was supposed to be an R at first.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Bingo!

          • philosofa

            Dasvidaniya comrade . (Goodbye friend)

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          The bottom part clearly says “C0MR4D3”. comrade. Can’t make out what the top means.

        • Observer

          I believe it says “Dosvedanya comrade.” It looks like somebody was using Cyrillic characters to spell it in English. Kind of like 1337.

          EDIT: never mind, I see now it was answered ages ago.

      • Sir_Real

        The letters in Cyrillic don’t spell out anything I can decipher, the letter for “b” is reversed 3 times and I don’t recognize the v-like letter on the top line. Is it just something made to look like something in a language using the Cyrillic alphabet?

    • aegerprimo

      Look at how Boston spams Craigslist. Really?
      (refresh for screen shot)

  • Sherbet

    “Well, here’s the thing itself. Put on your seatbelt and press play…” No.

    • Captain Howdy

      You didn’t miss anything. After like 30 seconds my mind started making a list of things I need at the store.

      • 1subgenius

        Pick me up some celery seeds while you’re out.
        Thanks.

        • Captain Howdy

          I don’t need to go now. Right after I typed that a neighbor came by and gave me a huge bag of meals on wheels stuff he didn’t want.

          • D.Y.G.

            Score! Does yours deliver hot or frozen?

            • Captain Howdy

              The dinners are microwavable, but better than what you get at the store.

            • D.Y.G.

              I worked for county job and family services here when they took over Senior Services. They definitely put out some high quality meals. Good program, and much needed.

          • 1subgenius

            Damn, I only need three.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          I’ll barter you some for a hat full of nickels.

    • Observer

      Ron out-Ronned himself on this one.

  • Phil McKraken

    I got a truth for you — If you see a wall, then there’s a wall. You don’t need any special training to recognize that it’s a wall. You can get on to more important matters right away, and skip all this gobbledygook.

  • Observer

    I have been taken to task by a Scilon over at the NZ Tom Cruise hagiography. I replied, but it’s awaiting moderation as you can see. Unfortunately I can’t edit over there so my mistake with the bolding stands. :-/

    • Peter

      Nice handle, Obs. Hoisted on his own petard, I’d say. πŸ™‚

  • Science Doc

    Erin Reuveni (slightly different spelling) is 33 years old and lives at Giiman Hot Springs. Her husband is 36.

  • TDA1541A
    • Sir_Real

      An evil cult in it’s infancy, scary. Wonder what the FBI thought of this, if they saw it, as they were looking for anything subversive in that era.

      • TDA1541A

        Operation Clambake presents:

        The H-Files
        http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/fbi.gif
        FBI files on L Ron Hubbard

        http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/fbi-124.html

        FROM THE FILES OF THE FBI #124

        HUBBARD ASSOCIATION OF SCIENTOLOGISTS

        INTERNATIONAL

        806 North Third Street

        Phoenix, Arizona

        June 12, 1954

        Better Business Bureau

        834 North Central Avenue

        Phoenix, Arizona

        Gentlemen:

        For your interest, the Hubbard Association of Scientologists, an
        Arizona Corporation, has brought about certain changes in
        Scientology, and of which we would like to acquaint you.

        Scientology is described as a science of knowingness. It is
        actually a modern approach, using mathematics and physics, to the
        philosophic subject of epistemology. The goal of Scientology is to
        bring about greater capabilities in human beings such as increases
        in recognition, memory, and reaction time. Such a science would of
        course address various phenomena such as psychosomatic illness,
        aberration and behavior.

    • aegerprimo

      TDA…. I am always amazed by the images you find.

  • nottrue

    The Machanics of Ivory soap…….

  • Jeb Burton

    What a batshit crazy person L Ron was. But I notice if you mention that on Rinders or Rathbuns blog, they wont post your comment. I was reading a story on Rinders blog the other day, and an Australian journalist who toured the .Ideal org in Sydney, was hooked up to the E-meter and talked about how he was thinking of something else, and the E=meter gave him false readings. I said this just goes to prove that the E=meter is bullshit. Rinder wouldnt post that comment, when he has posted my other comments. This is why I dont respect the indie scions. They will post all day about the midget, but will not post anything on LRH or how the E-meter is a big scam. I guess this is because they still use the e=meter to fleece the morons who come in for their indie evaluations.

    • aegerprimo

      They also refuse to read the DOCUMENTED biographies on Hubbard such as: Bare-Faced Messiah – Messiah or Madman? – A Piece of Blue Sky”, etc. As an ex, it is frustrating that they choose to separate from the “church” but not the woo.

    • Science Doc

      Rinder has allowed some pretty critical stuff. Be careful with tone and keep it on topic and a lot will get posted. We’re singing to choir here but when you get anything mildly critical on Rinder’s blog it reaches an important audience, including many under the radar.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I agree, Science Doc. And even for the exes, it takes a long time to extricate one’s mind from the damage of the mind control. Some of these folks have put years or decades into the cult. They need Mike and his indie stopover as a way station on the way out. But have you noticed that Mike has recently allowed more comments critical of LRH? I think he himself is beginning to look more critically, just as Marty started to do over the past year. Healing is a process.

        • Sandy

          Oh, I am quite sure Mike is just stepping in to fill the spot left when Marty went all mystic & had to consentrate on his family & the law suit. Someone has to help these poor people until they can wake up. He’s is in a helping role – and only allowing entheta in small doses until his audience is ready. I see it as a kindness.

        • KNMF

          I think Mike has happy childhood memories, and he got to be around his family. He invested a lifetime.

    • allioops

      I trust the “indies” only because I think that they are sincere and want to help……But they need to see that the stuff of LRon is all blah blah, and plagiarized from the Psychs that he feared.
      Soon that day will come. until then; what people are writing about on the internet regarding the evil of the cult is worth our time.

      • TDA1541A
        • TDA1541A

          Sly Hubbard always revealing kernels of truth

          http://www.scs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews/barbkaye.htm

          “he went to the University of Chicago library and
          asked for the latest book on psychology and read this book – that was the only
          thing he had ever read on the subject”

          My brain connects these od-ball things

        • KNMF
        • Phil McKraken

          “I turned around to the very nice young vice president of the publishing company and so forth…”

          And so forth what? What the fuckin’ so forth can there be tacked on to turning around the the nice young vice president. That’s the stupidest use of the “and so forth” verbal tic in all the Hubbard canon.

          And speaking of tics, Hubb is a seething mass of ’em. In all the myriad diagnoses of his mental illnesses, syndromes, disorders and anomalies, is Turret’s included? I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. OCD too. And I’m starting to wonder about MPD, or whatever it’s called these days.

          • KNMF

            The sinister hypnotist is laying poison eggs in the captured minds of his flock. The story is just a fatass lie installed into the heads of his sheeple, for a very specific purpose. That is why he dramatizes it, catching the book, holding it up. The lie will sit in their brains like a tumor, and it will always help support Hubbard’s bigger conceptual lies.

            The time of psychology is over. Scientology is replacing it. Psychology was faulty and ill-conceived (poorly bound) and so worthless it is given away. Hubbard will take care of it, put on the shelf. End of story.
            Do you ever wonder if there’s something behind the “and so forths?”

            • TDA1541A

              But the book he read just before writing Dianetics was that psychology book

          • TDA1541A

            And so forth means:”Inseart bunch of lies here”

            It’s an easy way to round up a lie or to have people fill it in themselves

          • TDA1541A

            The point is about the book. The mentioning of heaving that book in his library still. The one psychology book he read before writing dianetics.

            He reaveales a bit of truth in his lies

        • allioops

          VERY weird and of course confusing!!! HUH????? – As usual. Thanks for this.

          • TDA1541A

            Connect it to what his Assistent said in her Interview

    • WhamBham

      WTF Rinder…let it all hang out already…this is ridiculous. It is all a scam and everyone knows it….

    • WhamBham

      exactly.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox

      To be fair to Rinder, I don’t think he is really an Indie anymore, but his blog is aimed towards Indies and under-the-radar Scilons.

  • TheCommodeDoor

    After watching several of these “quote videos” one can’t help but come to the conclusion that anyone who thinks Hubbard is/was smarter than they are – is right.

    • joan nieman

      You’ve got it Commodore. Well said!

  • MaxSpaceman

    $cientology Inc., 60 years on, sells a product called NED for OTs, at a cost of say $800 per auditing hour. In 2014 there are some thousands of people globally who (said to be conditioned to think it is so, that Ron is infallible) believe this:

    “But Planet Earth was a dumping ground to end all dumping grounds. Actually the end of OT III is when those BTs [body thetans] and clusters [ a group of BTs ‘stuck’ together ] which can be gotten into communication easily and can be made to run Incident IIs and incident Is, are gone. It’s not when all BTs in the whole universe that ever will be are gone.

    “DORMANT BTs. You can wake up very dormant BTs and clusters that actually you’ve never hit on OT III – never dreamed they existed. Many are not visible in PT [present time]. These dormant ones are not squarely in the time stream, they’re down the track a bit. You shift your attention and pull them into PT, or your attention goes a bit out of PT and there they are. They are not precisely in the time stream.

    “This solves the mystery of how an OT III can see none, get run on some NED and it kicks them in.” — L Ron Hubbard, NED for OTs, – from Carnegie Mellon U., Dave Touretsky Religious Studies, Scientology.

    It remains hard to believe that that product still sells in 2014.

    • joan nieman

      Oh Max..my ears! My brain! What provokes people to actually believe any of this? Groan!

  • flyonthewall

    I can’t wait for one of their Eastern Euro or Southern Russian slaves to blow and run to the cops with stories of withholding passports, forced labor, interrogations etc etc. That will be perfect

    • Observer

      If that happens maybe Putin will invade Flag and/or Int.

      • flyonthewall

        Oh yes! Red Dawn style? I can see all the $cilons out there screaming ” Wolverineees!” and charging with bayonets drawn

  • Captain Howdy

    Anybody have a title for the 2nd video so I can try looking it up on 56.com?

  • joan nieman

    Oh for Heaven’s sakes!! Words and phrases that say nothing at all. I cringe when I hear the word ” win”. Is life itself a game? and what is the prize when one “wins” whatever it is that they win. Insanity begets followers? Insanity that encourages donating mass amounts of money? To climb an invisible bridge? To become God?

    Save the planet? Save them from what? Poverty?: Wars? Floods? Earthquakes? Famine? No. The idea is to save the planet from Thetans. Thetans you say?

    • Sejanus

      I win….tend to …..win…agree with you…win.
      Their constant …win…misuse…win…of the word….win….just seems …win….to take away…win…from it’s meaning…win.
      and they ARE saving the planet….from evil possessed space unicorns and rectal wolverine zombies…you haven’t seen either of those around have you?
      Of course not…that’s a …wait for it………………………………………………………………………………..
      ……………………
      …………………….
      ……………………….
      ………………………..win.

      • joan nieman

        Okay Sejanus. You win!

        • Sejanus

          WOOHOO!
          I win!
          Now wait a sec..is that a real win, win or a Scientology win?
          Cuz ya know if that is a Scilon win..then to heck with that nonsense..lol

          • joan nieman

            Hmmm. I will have to think about that one.

      • aquaclara

        That is indeed a win.
        Lol.

  • Sejanus

    Scientologists can now see the wall..hooray for them.
    The real thing is, if they could see the door or window and use either of them to GTFO of the cult, now THERE would be a true win!

  • media_lush
    • Observer

      Oh, there is a shoop a-comin’ …

  • Anonymous
    • Douglas D. Douglas

      By gum, everything is up-to-date in Kansas City! They have their finger in the eye of the American public. This is just so… right.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, they are f-backwards but I’m afraid that new Cruise movie is good.

    • KNMF

      You mean he’s Tom Cruisier than ever? I understand that he wears a space suit in this one, and that he fights the forces of evil and there’s a shitload of CGI. If I find out he did a couple of his own stunts I’ll really be blown away.

      • scottishinlondon

        Well it can’t be any worse than The Last Samurai. That was cheesier than a container load of aged Roquefort.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    All these new Russian followers… I do hope that there is a strong, internal mechanism in place to ensure that no agents of SMERSH are slipping in, with the sole intent of stealing LRH’s brilliant Tech, and thus tipping the balance of power in the world!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    “…and Ivory Soap…”

    (Couldn’t think of a better reason to post one of my favorite Gluyas William’s New Yorker cartoons.)

    • KNMF

      …electricity. Ivory Soap…

  • Zack Comstock

    Utter Jibberish.

  • media_lush

    Mark Plummer just posted this in SP’s R Us

    • media_lush

      … and this title from celeb dirty laundry

      John Travolta And Kelly Preston Locked In Loveless Marriage – Church Of Scientology Won’t Let John Be Gay!

      http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2014/john-travolta-gay-kelly-preston-marriage-wife-divorce-church-of-scientology/

      • aegerprimo

        I want to write in the comments – “Blow John, blow!”

        • Elar Aitch

          dooooeeeettt!

          • aegerprimo

            Done deal! I was first to comment though it is currently in moderation.
            (refresh for proof)

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          He once had pics w/ herpes on his lips from the tabloids but can’t seem to find them anymore. When is his pilot going to come out w/ his book about their 8 year affair? If he did blow can you imagine the footage that they have of him blowing from the suite of his risky nights bringing tricks back to the CC? I guess when he came out against , dm he compiled quite the video library.

    • WhamBham

      this gave me a bit of a stomach ache….

  • media_lush

    that twat journalist David Farrier who wrote that suck up piece on Cruise has put up another article… he name calls a few posters here http://www.3news.co.nz/Tom-Cruise-Scientology-and-me/tabid/418/articleID/347332/Default.aspx

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Yup I just commented over there….

      “Fun to see Tom Cruise zip lining. Sounds like you had a cute fun experience with the cult. Kudos to you. A lot of people are not so lucky. Bankruptcy, suicide, disconnection from family members, human rights abuses – that’s what happens to long time members and especially those who sign a billion year contract with the Sea Organization ($8-$50 a week, 100 hours plus, and their passports are taken away to encourage them to stay…). The blog that you mentioned – Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker – covers the many lawsuits against the cult – fraud, harassment, coerced abortion of minors – as well as many stories of disconnection and estrangement of families who dare to criticize scientology. Check it out. Those of us who read it are very concerned about the abuses of the cult. My own agenda is to educate people that this is not just a fun little cutesy game. It is deadly serious. Google Lisa McPherson.”

    • Observer

      That looks to me like a calculated attempt to lure us back. I’m not taking the bait.

      • Just Dee

        I took it – but only once! You have a very good point, Observer

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          yup I commented too – may be a while for Mr Farrier to get his stats up!

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            BTW, I think you wrote an excellent comment. This young writer really needs to educate himself, if he is not willing to be informed by his readers.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Thank you Cars. I couldn’t help myself, but I totally get what you are saying in your comment above.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Oh, I understand. I had to quickly close that tab after I read Farrier’s story and break my fingers so I didn’t respond. But I fully understand those who do write back. I just couldn’t trust myself to write as calmly and as rationally as you and others have. As Observer said earlier, “you gotta do what you gotta do.” I hope I wasn’t suggesting that anyone follow my lead. I was simply diverting my own attention by writing a long reply to Observer while I cooled off. But my hope to not start a hunt for this Donna still stands – unless someone can convince me otherwise, of course.

              And now, my next challenge is to keep on reading the Bunker comments and not go back to Farrier’s site. πŸ™‚

            • Observer

              Just think about how disappointed he’ll be if his ploy fails. That’s motivation enough for me not to go back!

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Thanks for that tip, Obs. That’s exactly what I’m going to do. It’s helping already.

            • Observer

              I don’t think he cares about anything but the attention he gets.

            • aegerprimo

              It won’t last long… unless he does some important journalism. But he probably won’t. He joined Scientology for 6 months. That does NOT happen. Once you join, they are on your back forever. There is something off about him.
              ETA: I wonder if he wrote for PRWeb previous to 3 News NZ?

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Exactly. There is something that is disingenuous about him and my suspicion was reinforced by his second article. There’s something fishy about him and that email in particular. I could be wrong but…

            • aegerprimo
            • media_lush

              … posted this there

            • scottishinlondon

              Nothing wrong with Bronies; as far as I know they don’t force children into slavery, run real estate scams, coerce women into abortions or try to infiltrate the government.

            • Jon Hendry

              PRWeb mostly just distributes press releases that customers write themselves – regardless of content. I’m sure Scientology represents a teeny tiny amount of their revenue. It’s annoying that they distribute Scientology’s press releases, but I’m sure they distribute many press releases from shady organizations, along with some legit releases.

      • outraged

        I couldn’t help it. Had to reply and take the bait. He really pissed me off.

        • Observer

          You’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do.

          I think he liked all the attention–I doubt he’s ever had as many comments as he did yesterday–and I intend to deprive him of any more from me. I think he’ll keep trying to bait us.

          • outraged

            yeah, I bet you’re right. I am just so goddamn angry right now after trying to backup, restore my daughters iphone. How in the world does anyone type on those things???

            • Observer

              I feel you.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Exactly. I don’t want the Bunker nor Tony to become the subject of his next story, not more so than it already has. This writer is “glib” and has not done his research as many commenters have suggested. If he had, for one thing, he’d at least know that the CoS would still consider him a scientologist for all eternities. I don’t think they even subtract their officially declared SP’s from their membership stats – that’s how they come up with that 12 million figure. Hubbard himself said in one of his congresses, that a scientologist was someone who [merely] expressed an interest in scientology and wanted to change.

        And by publishing that email from a so-called Donna, he’s hoping to provoke us to respond and rebut, therefore driving his comment stats up once again.

        And on a personal note, I also hope we don’t start a troll patrol in the Bunker to try to expose this “Donna” who supposedly wrote that email.

        David Farrier’s motives are quite transparent, IMO, and I am not going to dignify his little story with a response nor give him the satisfaction. Ptoo, ptoo on him.

        • Robert Eckert

          Did you make the sign of the fig?

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            What is that, Robert – the sign of the fig?

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Forget it, Robert. DuckDuckGo is my friend. I looked it up and my answer is, “Hell yes, I did!”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Donna is obviously an OSA shill. No mystery there.

      • aegerprimo

        I commented. The guy pissed me off.

      • Captain Howdy

        Yah, definitely a little attention whoring bitch if I ever saw one.

        • aegerprimo

          No matter what sort of press happens on the internet about the Co$, it will be bad press. Real research will reveal the truth that the Co$ ruins lives in multiple ways. No research or opinionated banter will reveal the stupidity of the writer by being apologetic to a dangerous cult. Just sayin’.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I still think this guy is a Scientologist.

          • Observer

            And I bet he’s reading over here.

            • Captain Howdy

              No doubt. This is the most attention he’s gotten since he made the gossip column in NZ when his wealthy boyfriend dumped his ass.

            • Observer

              Then I shall speak no more of him.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              You know he’s reading over here. That is the current state of “research” for on line media.

    • Captain Howdy

      Hah! So he admits to being an ex-scientologist (at least in theory). And who the fuck is this Donna? I declare a Fatwa on this spy and and the infidel Farrier!…J/K.

      • Observer

        My guess is it’s a Scilon posing as one of us. Marco, maybe.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Well! My comment over there is awaiting approval. This will certainly make my day– approval from 3NewsNZ. Here’s the whole inflammatory content of my note:

      “It is certainly David Farrier’s privilege to describe his brief stint in Scientology in any manner he desires. He’s the reporter, and this is his story. And that he finds the whole thing little more than a minor blip in his otherwise eventful life is also not all that surprising.But glib comments like this give me pause: “Shit. What was I? Bisexual or a Scientologist? Could I be both? Is that even possible?”

      Rather than pose this as a snarky, rhetorical question, why not ask someone who has been there. Derek Bloch is a fine young man whose family got him into Scientology when he was six years old. At fifteen he was pressured into signing a billion year contract with the Sea Org, an elite group that does Scientology’s day-to-day heavy lifting. (These are the folks who keep L. Ron Hubbard Way so neat ‘n pretty for the tourists.) At eighteen, Derek’s homosexuality proved his undoing in Scientology. He was forced out, his family disconnected from him, and he was basically cast out with nothing. I guess he was lucky that the Church of Scientology is legally enjoined from following their founder’s admonition– to dispose of such degraded beings “quietly, and without sorrow.”

      Do a quick Google search on Derek Bloch. Or follow him on Twitter. Or just get in touch. He’s a nice guy, who certainly didn’t deserve the horrific treatment he got at the hands of his family’s chosen “church.” And his story is just one of thousands. Some of these stories cannot be told by those who lived them, because they died under the “care” of those staff with the “perfect smiles.”

      Or you could just head out from L. Ron Hubbard Way, chuckle at those cheerful lunkheads handing out brochures at Hollywood and Highland, and continue on to the clubs of West Hollywood. And above all, don’t worry yourself over anything other than how Tom Cruise is going to retain his mastery at the box office. It’s so much easier that way.”

      • media_lush

        did you post a link? … surprised it’s waiting moderation

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          No links. I knew better.

          Maybe the length is too daunting for their average reader?

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Might’ve caught a word filter, too.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              That was it. Irony–the word (“shit”) was in a quote from the article.

              Everyone here knows that I would NEVER use language like that. Mercy!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Pearls before swine. The comment has vanished.

        Gee, good thing I memorialized it over here in this nest of vipers, eh?

        • aegerprimo

          It is a good comment.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I have posted it once more, and it is awaiting moderation. If it isn’t posted I’m done with the New Zealand glibber.

          • scottishinlondon

            It’s a very fine comment, and to the point.

      • aquaclara

        What a great comment. Glad it’s memorialized here, since that faux journalist Scientology-sympathizer Tom Cruise butt-licker seems to have a problem with honesty.

        And reporting.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Thank you, 3D. You’ve brought honor to the Bunker with your comment. I hope it gets through and I’m glad you posted it here. It can also serve as a good template for others to use if they are at a loss for words or ideas on how compose a thoughtful, effective comment.

      • Captain Howdy

        Your comment didn’t get posted because of the word ‘shit”. They censored one of mine because I used “ass”. That site has one of the most restrictive language policies I’ve ever encountered.

        • Jenstnick

          Im so glad tony lets us cuss over here. It’s like we are a bunch of drunken sailors…the real ones, not Davy’s Navy.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            A while back we’d get OSA idiots here in the Bunker who would try to turn us against each other by complaining about the naughty, naughty language. Half the folks here would cuss them out, and then I would explain that this is a chat room for grown-ups. If they wanted to go sit at the kiddy table, they were most welcome to do so.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Really? For quoting the reporter’s own comment?!?

          Shit.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Wow. You were right. I replaced “shit” with “shoot” and the comment flew right in and landed.

            Kiwis. Funny people. Or at least kiwi news web sites.

          • Once_Born

            WordPress (and other blogging software) has a feature that enables you to enter a list of words and phrases which you find offensive. If any of these words turn up in a comment, that comment is automatically held for moderation, or trashed.

            Perhaps he has put “shit” on his…er… shit list… but isn’t bright enough to avoid using the word himself.

    • media_lush

      I was kind of pleased with my last comment there so I’d thought I’d share

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The cavalry has arrived over there, and we have given an otherwise forgettable puff piece over a hundred comments. Yeah, I’m done with ’em.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Don’t know why I even care about this guy. It’s the smirk on his face. He should know better, but I’m not holding my breath.

      (refresh)

  • Axton

    The whole wall-lamp touching process is intended solely to make Scientologists more obedient. It’s a form of hypnosis. LRH even bragged about it. He knew that if he gave someone enough small orders, repetitively, with command intent, then that person would have less willpower, and will be less likely to questions orders.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for June 5: *refresh for images*

    Tony: US rank #21,538 – down 278 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 22,110)
    Scientology: US rank #59,271 – down 542 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 54,232)

    Difference: 37,733 – 264 more than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 32,122)

    Clicks from Taiwan – 9,6% today.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thank you.

    • Missionary Kid

      It would be nice to know how many actual clicks are involved. My belief is that this blog gets more than three times as many clicks, if not “orders of magnitude” in the wog mathematical world (10 times) more clicks than $cientology.

  • Edward Whalley

    It’s nice to see the ‘quote videos’, but it would be better if some people were to volunteer to keep the whole lectures afloat on the Net. So many of the old xenu.net and Wikileaks connections are defunct. It is onc thing to make fun of a quote, but yet another to be able to say, “Listen, I have thus and such lecture from thus and such congress, now can you tell me what this means without resorting to word clearing?”

    My favorite rebuttal to word clearing comes from a fellow SF writer, one far better than he:
    Define the word “Real”. A thorough dictionary definition.
    Define the word “Old”. Same idea.
    Define the word “Time”. Ditto.
    Define the word “Flavor”. OK?

    Now explain the phrase, using only the definitions you just gave: “Real Old Time Flavor”.

    What does it mean that he puts the suffix “-ing” and/or “-ness” when we really can’t figure out what he meant tin the first place? When he talks about “postulates” and “axioms” am I to understand them as I did in High School Geometry or as I did as a Great Books student, taking these apart in terms of how a Greek would have apprehended these words in the classical world? Or should I be using post-Renaissance modes of apprehending? Teacher? Can I ask a question? What do you know, sir?

    • Missionary Kid

      That’s a perfect example to me of the failure of word clearing. You can’t see the forest for the trees.

      • kemist

        The whole of “study tech” is a load of crap that is only useful to put someone’s natural ability for synthesis and analysis to sleep.

        Word clearing is simply mindless work specially designed to be both excruciatingly boring and highly demanding in concentration. This type of task is known to induce intense fatigue in the workplace, but this becomes a feature in the context of brainwashing.

        • Missionary Kid

          Yup. Somehow, I remember the term “Areas of meaning” to describe a Venn diagram of meanings of words are determined. I have associated the phrase with S.I.Hayakawa in my mind, but some Bunkaroo will probably have a better source.

      • Edward Whalley

        The author, by the way was Alfred Bester.
        God, I miss him…

        But, I am serious. The more accessible the Congresses are online, the easier it will be to point out how full of lies, ignorance and word salad they are. Instead of simply having Xenu to pull out time after time (which is verboten material to a lot of the rank and file you’re likely to encounter) we’ll have all manner of examples to point to.

        Such as it is, they’re out there, but in huge chunks, as large as 100+ GB, which don’t readily download on my petite lappie..

        • Missionary Kid

          I know that I’ve read Bester in a lot of anthologies. From what I read in Wikipedia, he was one hell of an author. It mentions. “he stopped writing for the magazine in mid-1950 when editor John Campbell became preoccupied with L. Ron Hubbard and Dianetics, the forerunner to Scientology.”

          I miss him, too.

          • Edward Whalley

            Actually, he came back for a couple of late novels…This was adapted from an overheard educational TV reading program in his 1980 blockbuster “Golem 100” (pronounced, by people in the know, Golem Eight).

            • Missionary Kid

              I thought that he’d written further for the magazine. Was it while it had become Analog?

              I can imagine that he had no love for lrh.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    We really shouldn’t give our excited Russian OT sucha hard time. I hear the shoot was particularly difficult, In fact, they had to call in some experts at videography.

    In fact, here’s a photo from the outtakes…

    • Observer

      Hahaha, John Allender is a nice touch!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        And yet, how many have described him as a “bad touch?”

      • KNMF

        Hey John. You can probably get some fox urine at the local sports & outdoors or army-navy.

    • marti

      Take that you Ruskie!!
      And your garbled English too!!!

      • Mark

        “I yam not Russkie bot Khazakh!”

        • marti

          The only Ruskie I like is Dodo.

          • Captain Howdy

            What about Pussy Riot and Dostoyevsky?

    • Bradley Greenwood

      HOWL!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jeffrey Levine

      Is she feeling herself up?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hard to say. Here’s the original. Can’t help but say that I captured a very , uh, moving moment…

        • TDA1541A

          That is some MEST on her

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Evil evil cult.

    Narconon Arrowhead Offers Advice to Parents on Preventing Summer Drug Use

    http://www.busbyway.com/2014/06/05/narconon-arrowhead-offers-advice-to-parents-on-preventing-summer-drug-use/

    • aegerprimo

      PRWeb ticks me off.

      • Observer

        Noooooooooo! We’re in the middle of a tick plague and I am already jumpy …

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So nice I can now close images…!

        • aegerprimo

          What? Did the image bug you?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            It…

            …TICKED me off!

            Oh, sometimes I kill myself!!!

    • Guest

      PRWeb ticks me off.

  • rom661

    I can’t think of a more eloquent way to put it: He is more full of shit than a Christmas goose. Not quite sure what it means but my grandfather used to say it, and it feels appropriate for this garbage.

  • Observer

    Tip of the hat to media_lush for posting the pic of Her Royal Governorness in his blog (linked below, or above if you’re not sorting by newest). The resemblance is striking, don’t you think?

    • Barbara Angel

      Hahahaha at least she seems to be ‘winning’ in the teeth department, she’s got more left than her role model on the right hand side.

    • media_lush

      I remember posting back in the VV days wondering what she must have thought about The Simpsons ‘cult’ episode (surprisingly accurate even then) … even the ‘Leader’ was Hubbard-ish; seriously, could she have been so naive and not seen the piss-take?

      … also wasn’t there some rather unsavoury suicide of her first husband that was scientology related (another suicide, ed?) ?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Her OT boyfriend. He jumped off a bridge.
        Irony much?

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          another OT suicide due to giving $$ to the cult.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          tisk , tisk..it is just a shell. Maybe he’ll come back as , cardone next time or a crack whore.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        He was in an automobile accident.

        He apparently fell from his car to the bottom of a canyon.

        (And it was her fiance.)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Sarcasm ‘Bracketts’ implied!

          Sorry, I could NOT stop myself !

        • Captain Howdy

          “He died in May 2009.[ According to The Monterey County Herald, Brackett leaped off of the Bixby Creek Bridge in Big Sur, California.”

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Yep. And Scientologists were told (and still sometimes report with a straight face) that he died in an automobile accident.

            • Phil McKraken

              Too bad Tom Cruise wasn’t driving by. He could have helped.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          oh , like Quinten.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        He was a scilon and sounds like maybe his business went under because he gave all his $$ to the cult, killed himself. There is a thread on WWP. https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/nancy-cartwright-sued-suicide-of-steve-brackett.63697/

        Wikipedia says “In 2007, Cartwright was in a relationship with contractor Stephen Brackett. They planned to get married in spring 2008. Brackett was the President and Treasurer of Brackett Construction in Hollywood, California; the construction company was founded in 1987 and had $8.5 million in sales in 2009. He was a fellow member of Scientology, reaching the Operating Thetan level of OT V in Scientology, in 1989.

        “He died in May 2009. According to The Monterey County Herald, Brackett leaped off of the Bixby Creek Bridge in Big Sur,California. Law enforcement stated, “friends and relatives of Brackett said he was despondent because of financial troubles with his business”.

        “In September 2010, it was announced Cartwright was being sued by the executives of American Safety Casualty Insurance Company over a policy covering refurbishment work Stephen Bracket failed to finish before his death. The lawsuit sought $260,000 from Cartwright, who the company claims was guarantor for the policy but has refused to cover the expenses. The lawsuit also alleges Brackett diverted contract funds to the Church of Scientology.”

        • media_lush

          … depressing…. kinda makes you wonder what they have on her that she gave that $10m that time… let alone what she donates on a regular basis…. there was that video where she sort of compares herself to getting godly powers if I remember and looks totally out of it…. out of all the celebs I feel she’s the weakest and most controlled

          • Troy MacGyver SP

            Link?

      • Observer

        Her fiance, Steve Brackett. He–wait for it– jumped off a bridge.

    • Baby

      I like this one obs…

      • Baby

        refresh..xo

      • Jon Hendry

        Apparently, she isn’t cause over roots.

      • Observer

        Ack!

      • Suppressive Meritorius

    • Missionary Kid

      “Scientology is like the dark side of the Force, only a lot more expensive and without the super powers.” is now on the list of THINGS SAID ABOUT $CIENTOLOGY at http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1144801640

  • aegerprimo

    RED X – RED X – RED X

    The main list of Craigslist ads to flag are here…
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-89#post-2460984

    If you don’t have a lot of time to flag Co$ spam ads, get the newest ones here…
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-89#post-2461051
    ……

    • Juicer77

      Done.

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      Last night I talked to , David who has been a clam for 30 years. I asked them if they take care of their elderly. He didn’t know but was sure there was a place they did. Also, he mocked the symbolic , Sea Arghh contract since we ,”obviously don’t come back for a billion years.” This guy knows so little about his cult after 30 years. For those of you who don’t know I call the clam’s to waste their time while I do my , Red Exing. On going series.

      • aegerprimo

        You know Troy, lying liars that lie and all that. Of course he is not going to tell you how they really take care of their elderly or explain a billion year contract. The cognitive dissonance must’ve been rattling loudly in the head of David-Clam-For-30-Years.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The difference between a real religion and $cientology?
    The former develops conscience, the latter con science.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    What shape is $cientology?
    Con cave

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The difference between Buddhism and $cientology?
    The former teaches you how to contemplate.
    The latter offers a con template.

  • Jgg2012

    What’s the difference between a Tea Partier and a Scientologist? One’s a conservative, the other cons you into servitude.

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      One’s front groups are funded by the , Koch brothers and the other by a mad clamman

  • Jgg2012

    What’s the difference between Battlefield Earth and Dianetics? One is science fiction, the other is fiction science.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    How does a true path differ from $cientology?
    The former teaches constance, the latter a con stance.

  • Jgg2012

    What is the difference between a duck and a Narconon pitchman? One quacks, the other is a quack.

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    Tom Cruise will be on the Daily Show in about 20 minutes, and if it’s anything like his appearance on the Tonight Show (which it will be) it will be boring as hell and you should just skip it. But if you want to watch, hey, I dunno. I will, because I watch the Daily Show anyways.

    • media_lush

      there’s still time – tweet the show…

      @TheDailyShow

      [pic]

    • Vaquera

      Who is the stylist that told TC that wearing a shirt this tight while making his entrance into the Daily building would be a flattering look???

      • media_lush

        MOOBS!

        edit: as one who knows these things I can categorically say that the shirt out of the trousers was a last minute decision (see the wrinkles)… this is normally done when the individual catches a glimpse of himself in the mirror and is confronted with a paunch that’s a lot bigger than he remembered… sort of sad-dad camouflage

        • Vaquera

          Love handles!

        • Vaquera

          He forgot to wear nipple petals.

        • Elar Aitch

          maybe someone called him out for mom jeans

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Can’t help but be better than the three shades of clashing gray and tucked-in sweater he wore on the Tonight SHow.

        • Vaquera

          Thankfully, it wasn’t 50 shades of gray clashing.

      • media_lush

        god, I hope this trends…..

      • scottishinlondon

        The guy behind him certainly seems to feel a fashion faux pas has been made

    • media_lush

      let us know if anything interesting happens

  • media_lush

    EXCLUSIVE!!

    I’ve come across a rare pic of a young Miscavige during one of his first jobs as a film director in Sea Org

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Snort!

    • Sarah James

      LOL funny

  • Captain Howdy

    Crush Kill Destroy..that was fun!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Too weird. Repeat the words “I believe in Mary Worth” three times, then view that video with the Russian OT.

    This is what you will see:

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Slow night. What can I say.

    Cruise arrives at at the studio with a surprise guest:

    • media_lush

      that gave me a genuine lol moment!

      edit… and it works particularly well with the guy in the backgrounds expression…

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The guy in the background was the impetus for the shoop. It was just a matter of deciding what he saw that was so horrifying.

    • TDA1541A

      What an ugly boil on his shoulder

    • Jon Hendry

      What the hell is going on under his shirt?

      • Elar Aitch

        BT clusters of course

  • Bradley Greenwood

    Scientology tried to keep a viewer’s attention in that second video. Just like mainstream advertising: boobs.

  • DodoTheLaser

    So did Jimmy or anyone watched Tom Cruise on the Daily show tonight?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I saw it.

      Meh.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Do tell, please. Just a brief summary.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Nothing to tell, really. TC and Jon Stewart spent ten minutes high-fiving each other and talking about what a really, really great movie Edge of Tomorrow is.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Ughh. Thanks.

      • media_lush

        any gimmick… what was the ‘story’… in UK we had him doing a Donald Duck sneeze… Kimmel had something to do with The Road Runner or something…

  • media_lush

    I feel I should mention that I don’t think I’ve ever had a night of such extensive cross comment posting as tonight… it’s amazing the power the Bunker has to nip any clam bollocks in the bud nowadays… all hail The Bunker!

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      God save you . Media Lush. You make my evenings!

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      BTW Lush, I think it will be a very INTERESTING weekend here in the domestic box office. Warners execs are probably peeing in their pants tonight…the pundits at Deadline are saying that “Fault in Our Stars” is going to beat Our Tom’s Groundhog Day adventure!

      That would be something, wouldn’t it? A weepy YA novel about terminally ill teens beating Tom? It would be the ultimate humiliation. It COULD happen…though I think they’re clearly far different audiences. FIOS is a family film and a date film. If we’re competing for the teen boy audience alone, Tom would win…but there are a ton of teen girls, boys who want to take teen girls to movies, teen girls’ parents, and other YA readers like women in their 20’s – 50’s, particularly moms. Remember how the first Sex in the City movie (the decent one) destroyed the competition when it opened? Everyone said, “Huh. So women actually go to movies?” Well, the Nicholas Sparks films and the Twilight franchise have proven that teen girls go – again and again and again. We’ll see if enough of them come out to FIOS to send EOT over the edge!

      As for overseas, there are two great markets for EOT (China & Russia, plus the rest of Asia of course) on which the Warner Bros gamblers are betting all their chips. You are quite right about one thing – this one REALLY matters for Tom…particularly if he doesn’t make his usual offshore bucks. It’s World Cup weekend, so there’s going to be a lot of competition for the very demographic he wants in those movie seats.

      Yikes! A nail-biter in the making!

      http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/deadlinenow-tom-cruise-vs-teenagers-at-weekend-box-office-video/

      • media_lush

        rumour has it that Miscavige has booked half a dozen old Jumbos from Taiwan to bring in ‘public’ specifically to watch Edge…. you know I wouldn’t put it past the cult to pre-book tickets just for the stats… but if you were to actually look inside a “fully-booked” showing you’d only see a half dozen real people (stop giving them ideas, ed)

        … considering how deflated and generally ‘meh’ Cruise has looked on the talk shows I feel he knows his time is up and he might genuinely be wrestling the thought of leaving his cult… he’s a million miles from filming MI5 for sure.

        scientologycelebrity guy said that he’s avoided (or at least tried his best to) tiny fists for most of this year…. whenever his PR people put the bumf out on a site that his commentating he gets absolutely hammered (Bunker power, yay!)

        … so, yeah it will be interesting for sure…. note to PR/Agents/Studio heads and their minions – how about a ‘Live Box Office app”… can you imagine the fun with that!?

      • Baby

        Oh don’t tease us IVY.. I will be biting my nails.. Woo Hoo.. Go Fault!

      • media_lush

        in case you missed Enty’s take on it

    • Baby

      Oh absolutely All Hail to us.. We Are BUNKER STRONG.

      • Baby

        And ALL HELL TO SCIENTOLOGY!

  • media_lush

    hey, I’ve come up with a new word!!!

    Xenulicous!

    pic

    • DodoTheLaser

      “Coming soon: another tale of disconnection, new revelations from Int Base, and more!” – Tony.

      Xenulicous!

      • media_lush

        CIOUS COUS… told you I’m on XO… but you’re right… hey, lets get some T-shirts made!

        pic

        • DodoTheLaser

          That’s a fun word you came up with ML. I will use it on special celebratory occasions.

          • media_lush

            … you were right to correct my spelling as i definitely missed the ‘i’… but looking at my mistake “Xenulicous” I’m flummoxed as to how to pronounce that?… it makes no sense in the vernacular so I’m imagining the Cruise fanboy poster trying to pronounce it and for some reason I find that just so bloody funny….

            • DodoTheLaser

              Funny it is! Word clear THAT mother trucker!

            • media_lush

              no matter how hard I try I always end up with ‘cous cous’ as the last bit … I’m Xenu Cous Cous …. I’m close to drunk right now and when I say that in my head i laugh

            • DodoTheLaser

              It sure is funny either way. Lord Xenu approves.

            • Elar Aitch

              a bit like Xenu-lick-ass

  • Doloras LaPicho

    Okay you guys, I’m a Kiwi and I just noticed the dogpile on David Farrier’s silly little articles on Tom Cruise. Can I just make the following points:

    a) when you guys joke among yourself in Scio lingo, you really put off Kiwis who have no idea what the cult is; and you do so double when you accuse truly befuddled commenters of being OSA or whatever;

    b) David Farrier, regardless of whether he was dumb enough to hang out at the old Panmure org with Mike Ferris and the lads, is also doing this, which makes him a really cool guy: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dylanreeve/tickle-king-the-hunt-for-the-truth-in-competitive

    c) surely you have real cult apologists to go after, not some Kiwi TC fanboy? I think the first 20 or 30 comments talking about Lisa MacPherson, the RPF etc were necessary and useful. After that it just made this Bunker look like the stupid crazy ones.

    • media_lush

      “After that it just made this Bunker look like the stupid crazy ones.”

      … I don’t think so… if you look at the vast majority of the comments they are all very well made and, all things considered, quite polite. Quite, in fact, the opposite of what you’ve just said.

      This was the response to his first post and he had the opportunity to come clean but he just double downed on the rim size of his douche-nozzle and made himself even more of a laughing stock … more

      • coonellie

        I miss arse! Yanks don’t use it.

        • Observer

          Good to see you!

          • coonellie

            Thanks! It is good to be seen :). I’ve still not heard back from baby C’s driver’s ed course…and the city I’m in makes me very much alone. Lots of whales here :(. Called again but got nowhere. In order to engage the bunker would mean exposing my location …baby is terrified at the thought. sigh…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thanks for dropping in. It is too bad that kiwis don’t know more about Scientology– I kind of envy you that you don’t need to. Too bad, also, that Farrier could be telling you something more useful than, “What’s the big deal about Scientology?”

      As far as “going after” Farrier goes, I was totally willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, until this comment was removed from his comment thread (twice). Tell me, please, what horrible breach of good manners is in this:

      “It is certainly David Farrier’s privilege to describe his brief stint in Scientology in any manner he desires. He’s the reporter, and this is his story. And that he finds the whole thing little more than a minor blip in his otherwise eventful life is also not all that surprising.But glib comments like this give me pause: “Shit. What was I? Bisexual or a Scientologist? Could I be both? Is that even possible?”

      Rather than pose this as a snarky, rhetorical question, why not ask someone who has been there. Derek Bloch is a fine young man whose family got him into Scientology when he was six years old. At fifteen he was pressured into signing a billion year contract with the Sea Org, an elite group that does Scientology’s day-to-day heavy lifting. (These are the folks who keep L. Ron Hubbard Way so neat ‘n pretty for the tourists.) At eighteen, Derek’s homosexuality proved his undoing in Scientology. He was forced out, his family disconnected from him, and he was basically cast out with nothing. I guess he was lucky that the Church of Scientology is legally enjoined from following their founder’s admonition– to dispose of such degraded beings “quietly, and without sorrow.”

      Do a quick Google search on Derek Bloch. Or follow him on Twitter. Or just get in touch. He’s a nice guy, who certainly didn’t deserve the horrific treatment he got at the hands of his family’s chosen “church.” And his story is just one of thousands. Some of these stories cannot be told by those who lived them, because they died under the “care” of those staff with the “perfect smiles.”

      Or you could just head out from L. Ron Hubbard Way, chuckle at those cheerful lunkheads handing out brochures at Hollywood and Highland, and continue on to the clubs of West Hollywood. And above all, don’t worry yourself over anything other than how Tom Cruise is going to retain his mastery at the box office. It’s so much easier that way.”

    • Captain Howdy

      Whatever. He put his stupid ass out there and a few of us chewed it off. Sometimes it’s necessary to blow off a little steam. It was minor excursion at best. And I sure as hell don’t need some noob chastising me. Sod off whoever you think you are.

      • Doloras LaPicho

        LOL, noob. After 20 years in the clambaking business. But seriously – accusing clueless people who really don’t know what’s going on of being OSA agents and yelling “get your TRs in!” is probably hilarious, but not helpful to make it clear that the $cilons are the bad guys.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Okay, I followed the link and you lost me. We’re supposed to admire the guy because he raised nearly $30k to fund a story about competitive tickling?

      Yeah, that makes me want to overlook the fact that he basically called us out because we deplore the abuses of Scientology, which he essentially compared to the Jurassic Park attraction at Universal Studios.

      As I said before, thanks for dropping by (again– I see you have been here before, and hope you will continue to do so), but this defense of this “reporter” is… well… weak.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Completely off topic.
    Little guidance from Hubbard on how to handle kids in the Sea Org,
    when it was allowed to have kids there. Refresh for picture, click to magnify.

    • hansje brinker

      The man who wrote Dianetics advice to spank children…….also to locked them up.

      Here a Scientologist who beats his 15 year old son:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_obL32MQOk

      • DodoTheLaser

        Sick.

        • hansje brinker

          Right.
          Perhaps this guy Hank was as a child on a ship of Hubbard.
          But still, sick.

          • DodoTheLaser

            And he kept saying “I don’t like/enjoy doing this”.
            Well, then don’t do it stupid fucking asshole. Simple.

            • hansje brinker

              Yep, OT8 and so “self-determined”………………

              That policy is written in 1968. A turnpoint in Scientology. Lot of things changed then.
              You can see the tone-scale: everthing below zero. Also in these days. OT’s who are waiting for OT9/10. DM who beats his staff etc.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Yeah, makes me wonder if Hubbard himself kicked some ecclesiastical asses.
              But it seems he preferred to do so through his “loyal officers” and then acted like a nice guy towards a victim, “helping” them and cheering them up as a true PR Baron snake.

            • hansje brinker

              Yep, Hubbard a friend of Mankind.

            • DodoTheLaser

              “Friend”

            • Observer

              Fiend.

            • DodoTheLaser

              And Foe.

            • Observer

              Funny, my mother used to say the same thing while doing the same thing. Also, “This hurts me more than it does you.” Riiiiiiiight.

              Who’s he trying to convince, himself or the kid? Must be himself, because the kid knows better.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Dead on. Sorry you lived through that Obs.

            • Observer

              Thanks. It’s dealt with in my life, and my mother and I are on good terms now, but seeing it happen to other people makes me furious.

    • Elar Aitch

      So damning…thanks Dodo

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    • Graham

      Done the most recent ones. Been off-line for a while with computer problems, but getting back into the routine now.

  • media_lush

    shit… ebrytime my email refrweshes i have 20 or 30 disqus responses///… bugger

    • Barbara Angel

      That’s because you are Clever, Funny and Talented.
      It’s called a big fan base. Oh the price of fame…..
      Signed from one of your fans, BA. xoxox

  • media_lush

    credit where credit is due (to the poster who got this one first]… it’s genius

  • Sibs

    I don’t think my friend realized how much the posters and her comment resemble the ongoing TC ego-inflating crap.

    BTW, if any of you have seen Scott Pilgrim, this is the original link. It’s pretty funny. The Greatest Actor Of Our Generation indeed.
    http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/87940959759/scott-pilgrims-lucas-lee-movies-the-greatest

  • i-Betty

    http://www.bohomoth.com/2014/06/05/tom-cruise-watches-lots-of-movies-because-the-scis-wont-let-him-watch-tv/

    Media Lush might already have posted a link to this Bohomoth piece (he’s commented, brilliantly) about TC’s appearance on Jimmy Fallon. Jen picks up something TC mentioned about watching a-movie-a-day and suggests this is probably because he is barred from watching TV.

    PS. If you comment over there please be nice – Jen is lovely and she’s really making an effort to understand Co$ which is not typical for a fashion/gossip blogger. She’s started spending a fair bit of time in the Bunker πŸ™‚

    • Elar Aitch

      Sooooo…are you boadacious Betty πŸ˜‰

      • i-Betty

        I am! πŸ˜€

  • Mooser

    Ah yes, the days of whine and poses.

  • Curious George

    What do these foreign converts pay to takes the courses? Do they get discounts?