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Angry Gay Pope loses ownership of ‘KendrickMoxon.com’ to … Kendrick Moxon

MoxonAGPYesterday, arbitrator and retired Texas judge Carolyn Marks Johnson took away the rights to the domain name KendrickMoxon.com from Donald Myers, a West Hollywood Scientology critic better known as ‘Angry Gay Pope,’ and awarded the domain to Scientology attorney Kendrick Moxon.

AGP is known for his loud, brash way of protesting Scientology, whether in attention-getting public demonstrations or his online activities, which included the website named after the church attorney, Moxon.

For several years AGP had run the website, which lampooned and criticized Moxon. Its tag line was, “America’s Worst Lawyer?”

In July, Moxon filed a complaint with the National Arbitration Forum under the domain name dispute rules of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).

Moxon complained that AGP had purchased the domain name in bad faith and was using it to libel him.

“[AGP’s] conduct evidences a malicious, vindictive and purposeful campaign intended to embarrass, discredit, and defame the Complainant and to vitiate, dishonor, and impair the reputation and goodwill of the KENDRICK MOXON service mark. In short, the Respondent’s use of the Disputed Domain is in bad faith,” wrote Moxon’s attorney, Utah lawyer Steven Rinehart, who specializes in intellectual property disputes.

Moxon argued that previous cases established that it was improper to use his name in this way. His complaint quoted the World Intellectual Property Organization: “The right to criticize does not necessarily extend to registering and using a domain name that is identical or confusingly similar to the complainant’s trademark.” The trademark, in this case, being Moxon’s own name.

In his response for AGP, attorney Graham Berry pointed out that the website had a large, very visible disclaimer asserting that Moxon actually had nothing to do with it. Also, Moxon himself had no website of his own except for a blank white page, and he otherwise had virtually no Internet presence. In other words, Moxon himself hadn’t shown any interest in managing a website, whether it carried his name in the domain or not.

Berry also argued that AGP was merely giving Scientology some of its own medicine — we have written previously about the church’s connections to anonymous smear sites that attack the church’s perceived enemies. Berry pointed out that he and his client have both been the targets of such websites.

Emails show Moxon offered $3,000 on December 29, 2012 for ownership of the domain name. Pope asked for a payment of $10,000, which Moxon rejected. The lawyer then increased it to $3,400, and AGP turned him down.

In her decision, Judge Johnson says that under ICANN rules, three conditions have to be shown by a complainant to have a domain cancelled or transferred.

(1) the domain name registered by Respondent is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which Complainant has rights; and
(2) Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and
(3) the domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.

Johnson said that in this case, Moxon had proved all three, and so she awarded the domain to him. (We checked, and the site is now down, replaced with a placeholder page.)

Here’s the judge’s decision…

 

Decision: Moxon v Myers

 
AGP is unbowed, telling us that he is already working on a substitute website about Moxon which will meet ICANN’s rules.

Why the focus on Moxon? The attorney has a long and dubious history with Scientology. As a young member of the Guardian Office, Scientology’s notorious spy wing, Moxon was named an unindicted co-conspirator when executives of the GO were prosecuted following a 1977 FBI raid on the church. (Moxon had delivered some handwriting samples the FBI requested which turned out not to be from the man the church said they were. Moxon himself was never charged with wrongdoing.)

In more recent years, we’ve written about Moxon’s personal involvement in sordid church operations. He’s a true believer, and he’s been used again and again by the church for some of its most unsavory attempts to destroy people it believes are enemies to the organization.

But despite all that, we still think Judge Johnson made the right call here. We’ve seen Scientology try to ruin the reputations of people with the use of websites that have deceptive domain names time and time again. It’s a rotten practice, and in our opinion, at least, turnabout is not fair play.

Kendrick Moxon — or someone with the same name — ought to have control of kendrickmoxon.com. Or at least, he shouldn’t be harassed by a website that cynically exploits his own name in that fashion.

Kendrick Moxon doesn’t deserve that misuse of the Internet to smear him, the same as Karen de la Carriere, Mike Rinder, Marty Rathbun, Graham Berry, and many other people also don’t deserve to have their names exploited in smear domains.

We look forward to your thoughts on the matter.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on September 5, 2014 at 08:00

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  • AintMizBahavin

    hello bunkerites worldwide i hope everyone is doing awesome. i need a link to see agps videos read the name a couple times but wasnt sure who’s side he was on till now and now i need agp to educate me on the ills of lyingtology. i just love his energy as explained in this article he is out to take the sci bums out of the loop and that earns 200,000,000 kudos from me. maybe kendrick doesnt deserve to have his name falsely ruined but then neither did the double digit thousands of ex scis either ” turn about is fair play” funny how the misscrubbage and crew can dish it but not take it. screw them all in a vat of acid

    • Qbird

      Perhaps start here and then go where ya want… )
      Plenty plenty to look see:
      http://angrygaypope.com/

    • Baby

      I ain’t.. always good to see you.. ; )

      • Qbird

        likewise ya know Baby Doll.

        • Baby

          birdy birdy in the tree
          Come on down
          and play with me..

          • Captain Howdy

            Okay
            ….

            • Baby

              EEEEEEEEEEEEp… Mommy…………………………

      • Mymy88

        Hi Smoking Baby! I don’t know if you will see this or not but at least I can say I tried LOL. I had my gal bladder removed Thursday, emergency surgery, really really unexpected. I big ole gal stone dislodge and got stuck somewhere. I never had any sort of problem with my gal bladder before so it was a surprise. I thought I had just hurt my back and was having back spasms. So that’s why I *poof* disappeared lol. I got home from hospital today and am good to go as long as I take pain pill lol. Dr. told me to stay away from stress and that includes these boards, even if it is good stress, it’s still stress and I guess he has a point. I should be bake to normal in a few days. I’m keeping up with all the splended headlines! Soooooo about time for that dickhead moron to fall from his fake pscho grace! Talk to ya later! I’m glad you and so many others kept fighting the good faith. I don’t know how you all hung in there through all of that and having to wait so so long for things to finally REALLY started to roll! Talk to ya later! Take care!

        • Baby

          Oh sweet 88.. I am so sorry for the pain you must have been in.. If I could take the pain instead of you I would..

          Don’t overdue it honey.. seriously just relax and you will know when yo are ready to come back.. Yes.. it is a great time to be a critic that’s for sure..

          Thinking of you and hope you are feeling better soon.. xoxoxo Love Baby

          [img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/balloons.gif

          • Mymy88

            I’m totally good. Don’t worry at all! I’m VERY good anytime I can turn on my comp and see a google alert about Rathbun doing an interview in ESQUIRE! Holy guacomole!! Wooo Hooo! See ya soon! Thanks for you well wishes!

            • Baby

              Good honey… xox

    • Just go to my website http://www.angrygaypope.com or my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/theendofscientology

  • Ethics Officer

    Tony Ortega, I’ve put a commendation in your ethics file. Very good conclusion!

    • Captain Howdy

      Zhri govno i zdohni!

      • Ethics Officer

        Ke?

      • DodoTheLaser

        Ouch! Harsh!

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      A little reminder for you EO:

      Bunker House Rules:
      1). Thou shall demonstrate an accurate awareness of the true horror that is LRH, DM, and the COS.
      2.) Thou shall demonstrate a capacity for genuine compassion and accurate empathy towards those that have been harmed by the church.
      3). Thou shall not discuss or lecture people about the supposed benefits of LRH tech, or claim that those here misunderstand Scientology and/or LRH, ESPECIALLY without having demonstrated 1 & 2.

      Anyone who violates all 3 rules is still mind-fucked by the cult or a troll.
      In looking through your recent posts, I see that you are still failing miserably with in your awareness of human social skills and balanced reason. And still no demonstration of accurate empathy.

      • Ethics Officer

        I’m not sure if I can keep those rules, Hemet. Is it possible to make an exception? Only for me?

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          Like I said before, there are no official rules here and you can say what ever you like. But its too bad you are not aware of those rules. They are not mine or those of the bunker. They are general principles of human communication, or better said, emotional connection. LRH tech leaves out, impairs actually, the latter, the basis of which is accurate empathy. Human relationships are much more problematic and unsatisfying without such empathy. But you seem to be very pleased with yourself and your self-described role of enturbulator. You don’t appear to have any need to make a connection with anyone here, so for you EO, there is no real need for you to show or demonstrate any real human understanding or compassion towards anyone here. I just hope that the LRH tech has not harmed your ability to demonstrate empathy for your two sons.

          • Ethics Officer

            I think it’s a two sided thing, Hemet. Because of the difference in opinion about the subject there is no real feeling of connection from me to others here, but also not from others to me.
            Let me think, who said something about that…., if common reality is low, then there is probably also not much real communication, and affinity….., anyway, doesn’t matter.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              It is a two-sided thing, EO, it is. The reason that you are not feeling any connection here is because you started by lecturing people about how wrong they are in their view of LRH/COS and, more significantly, you have shown NO understanding, care, or concern about the harm that LRH’s policies have done, even to people here that have experienced it profoundly. One basic principle of human communication is “understanding comes before advice.” Is that not part of ARC?

              Let me ask you this, EO. Do you believe that anyone here (or anywhere) has been harmed by LRH’s disconnection policy?

            • Ethics Officer

              Ha…, no, “understanding comes before advice”, is not part of ARC.

              Of course I believe that many people have been harmed by LRH’s disconnection policy, Hemet.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Thanks for answering, EO, and also thank you for clarifying that “understanding should come before advice” is not part of ARC. What do you make of it? Can you see why it is a basic principle of human communication?

  • Pierrot

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    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls,
    We had 59 ads yesterday, giving us an average of still 75 per day for the last 4 days.
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-112#post-2482475

    Please read the IMPORTANT NOTICE about the flagging options CAREFULLY.

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty Artist & Dodo

    • Graham

      Duly purpled my blues, @ 8am UK time. The Bunker never sleeps.

  • DodoTheLaser

    AGP, thank you for helping/producing Karen’s vids.
    Stay safe.

    • You are very welcome 🙂

      • I concur what Dodo said, I’d like to see more of you on video again giving heck to the cult you are awesome AGP!!

  • Firstly, AGPs website about Moxon may have been able to stay on that address for a long time which has presumably provided AGP with some entertainment, but no-one is going to get out of bed to fight very hard for anyone’s right to put up a website which is blatantly against the wishes of the person who is named in the address. Secondly, the actions against its critics by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology go far beyond having smear websites.
    The Co$ will commit actual crimes to stop its critics, so while this website is one exampe of a critic stopping to one level to which the Co$ has stopped, I’m pretty certain that the Co$ has gone far deeper into unacceptable behaviour than any critic. So, this may be turnaround (and is already unacceptable) but it is not an instance of critics becoming what they despise (unless those were very poorly informed critics).
    As an example of a crime by the Co$, I keep coming back to Paulette Cooper’s “friend” who suggested that she come enjoy the view from the edge of a tall building (and who is today working for the Co$ at St Hill) and the OSA volunteer Remy PETIT who harassed an expert witness in the patrice VIC case and stole his mail. When Remy PETIT was the main prosecution witness in the appeal called against the conviction of the heads of OSA France, he committed suicide.

    • Ethics Officer

      Hi Jens,

      Do you think the Catholic church is also a criminal organisation?

      • Guest

        Troll

      • sue

        I that really the best you people can come up with?

        • Ethics Officer

          “You people”? Who do you mean by “you people”?

      • Mark Foster

        The church of scientology is an international criminal organization. Documented. For 40 years or more.

        • Ethics Officer

          Wow, then the justice system in so many countries must be very wrong, don’t you think?
          Because they all let this criminal organisation continue with it’s evil deeds.

          • DodoTheLaser

            “Because they all let this criminal organisation continue with it’s evil deeds.”

            Such a generality.

            • Ethics Officer

              Yeah, I know, Dodo. It happens automatically when you have been reading this blog for a while…

              I’m not saying that there isn’t much wrong in Scientology, btw. I’m just objecting to the wording of “criminal organisation”, because it’s factually not correct.

            • DodoTheLaser

              This blog is pretty specific, actually. Time, place, form, event – all nine yards.

            • Ethics Officer

              Ha, I see you’ve been in Scientology…

            • DodoTheLaser

              Of course. How else I would end up talking with Ethics Officer?! 😉

            • Ethics Officer

              Haha…..

              Okay that was a good joke, so I will remove one KR from your ethics file as a reward. If you make enough jokes like that, you will soon become eligible for the OT-levels.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Why, thank you. I suddenly feel more arc and admiration flow.
              I would like to grant you more beingness, my theta friend.

              And don’t forget about that special OT eligibility commendation
              that I already have on the Freewinds, not that I will ever need it.

            • Ethics Officer

              Welcome Dodo. By using my theta perceptions I will make things go right…, ha

            • DodoTheLaser

              You are so on source! Thank you, such a pleasure to have a comm line with a big thetan.
              My needle is floating, brb.

            • Ethics Officer

              Haha…

          • Panopea Abrupta

            I’m glad you are coming around more often.

            You say:

            “Because they all let this criminal organization continue with it’s evil deeds.”

            All?
            Rhodesia and Morocco?
            Germany?
            Kazakhstan?

            And now Belgium.

            You are being either deliberately obtuse or you are ignorant of the true history.
            Since you were a public $cientologist, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and presume the 2nd.
            Here are a couple of tidbits for you:

            “Scientology is
            both immoral and socially obnoxious… it is corrupt, sinister and
            dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based upon lies and deceit and has as
            its real objective money and power for Mr. Hubbard, his wife and those close
            to him at the top. It is sinister because it indulges in infamous practices
            both to its adherents who do not toe the line unquestioningly and to those
            who criticize or oppose it. It is dangerous because it is out to capture
            people, especially children and impressionable young people, and
            indoctrinate and brainwash them so that they become the unquestioning
            captives and tools of the cult, withdrawn from ordinary thought, living and
            relationships with others.”
            – Justice LATEY, ruling in the High Court in London in 1984

            This from France is apposite:

            • Ethics Officer

              So what’s your point, Panopea?

              There ARE Scientology churches in Germany, England, Belgium, France, isn’t it?

              So if these organizations are “criminal organizations”, it means that those governments let them continue with their evil deeds, otherwise they would have been forbidden.
              That’s what I’m saying.

              If a Catholic does a crime, (something for which he gets convicted), that doesn’t mean that the Catholic church now in that country is officially a “criminal organization”.

              That would be simply an exaggerated statement.

          • Mark Foster

            Do your homework. Note the trail of convictions in the U.S., Canada, France, Italy, Australia, to name a few. Here is one of many possible sources of data for you to explore: http://umbraxenu.wiki-site.com/index.php/Scientology_lawsuits

            • Ethics Officer

              I know there have been convictions. But has there been any conviction in which the organization itself has been convicted for being a “criminal organization” and thus forbidden?

            • Mark Foster

              Take ¨do your homework¨ literally. And, yes, the organization (the church)has been convicted of fraud recently in France. I´m pushing you to look for yourself, to read the tons of legal and anecdotal evidence out there about this real history of criminal behavior. Also, being a ¨religious organization¨convicted of a crime and being ¨forbidden¨ are two different statuses, with different laws and procedures in different countries addressing that issue Go back and read Ortega´s Village Voice articles. Check out Jonny Jacobsen´s site. Keep looking and reading; it´s a startling, mind-blowing journey!

            • Ethics Officer

              You’re not telling me any news, Mark.

              If people who belong to an organization get convicted, it doesn’t mean that the organization they belong to is criminal.

              Even if the organization itself gets convicted, it still doesn’t mean that the organization is criminal, unless they would repeatedly do so.

              And even when one part of the organization in one specific country would get convicted, it still doesn’t mean that the overall subject is criminal.

              Would you consider christianity a criminal organization because a catholic priest in England gets convicted for abusing children?

            • Mark Foster

              Read (or re-read)Manual of Justice. Re-read the Ethics book. The green vols. The ¨Advices.¨ Refer to the thousands of stories of ex-Sea Org members…to see that crimnial behavior is advocated in scientology policy and has been carried out in the real world for years. Read Jon Atack´s book and Russell Miller´s books. Marc Headley. Jefferson Hawkins. Paulette Cooper´s book….and her first-hand experience with scientology policy-driven criminal behavior. The evidence of criminal behavior is overwhelming and is only a mouse-click away, hence my repeated suggestion to actually LOOK. Just to be clear, when I say criminal behavior , I´m talking about stalking, harassment, embezzlement, assault, human trafficking, murder, blackmail…to name a few. If you had told me this 4 years ago, I wouldn´t have believed it. Like I said previously, it´s a mind-blowing research journey in which beliefs which may be deeply coveted are blown apart by verifiable, factual evidence.

            • Ethics Officer

              Like I said, you’re not telling me any news, Mark.

              But you didn’t answer my question….

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I don’t necessarily consider Christianity a criminal ORGANZATION, but I do think that the catholic church has, in part, functioned as one. Part of that would be at different times in its >thousand year history, and partly in the way it functions today, especially in regard to the abuse of children. But the catholic church is HUGE, and has so many moving parts, some of which does good. The COS is relatively short-lived and tiny, and the control of if has always been centralized to one person, with no checks or balances. And it does no good in the world. It might have made you and a few other people feel better, but otherwise, it has been a menace and robbed a great many people of their money and education. EO, Would you really ENCOURAGE a young person to join the COS?

      • i-Betty

        тролль.

        • Ethics Officer

          Hey Betty, only my avatar is Russian, so I don’t understand Russian language.

          But let me guess. Does it mean “you are wonderful?”

        • kmadelyn

          Hee! Until now, all I got out of that malenki 7th-grade Russian class was the ability to read A Clockwork Orange without needing to refer to Burgess’ “Glossary.”

          • i-Betty

            Heehee 😀 Babelfish is my friend. I just typed in ‘troll’ and out came those beautifully shaped letters!

    • I suppose it’s worth showing the scope of CoS’s smear websites:

      Scientology front group web sites

      Search for Dead Agent. A lot of those domains are parked or dead. I should add icons for that.

      For all the whois domains that are actually registered in CoS’s name:

      Scientology sites
      (See the parked davidloveexposed.info site registered to them. Idiots!)

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Scott Campbell also got the rooftop tour (@5m44s)…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sKg1F7IN98#t=344

      • Anonymous

        The number of folks who got the “rooftop tour,” at least metaphorically, is probably in the dozens. There are some credible sources (RVY among them) who believe(d) that Hubbard himself got the “bus stop” tour.

    • i-Betty

      “I keep coming back to Paulette Cooper’s “friend” who suggested that she come enjoy the view from the edge of a tall building (and who is today working for the Co$ at St Hill)…”

      Christ.

  • sue

    In the absence of any kind of accounting for his criminal activities, I believe Kendrick Moxon, unlike the other people listed, richly deserves to be smeared.

    • Worse! He richly deserves to be documented in detail, with cited sections and ones of opinion carefully indicated.

  • Kendrick my good pal, how is your daughter ?

    -Ron

    • HappypantsDance

      Ahh, thank you! Wow, I never thought I’d tell L. Ron Hubbard thank you for anything, at least not without being snarky…;)

    • ObsessedReader

      That was hilarious, I loved it! Thanks.

    • ObsessedReader

      Just discovered there are more songs, woohoo! Do any of their other songs have visuals?

  • DodoTheLaser

    There is No God in Scientology Inc Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6-hs3c_NTM

    • Techie

      Thanks, Dodo, I love these videos. It is a good thing that Scientology is lying about their OT powers. Imagine a world where Kendrick and his wife were cause over things like the weather or electronics. The internet would be mysteriously down all the time except for the poker sites, which would be strangely inclined to fund players from the Clearwater area. All the protests would be greeted by dark skies and lightning. Vitamins and colon cleanses would cure all diseases. The nightly news would be full of the good works of the boys in yellow and oily slicks of happiness would be sliming over all interpersonal conflicts, making the south side and the lower east side and south central great places to live again. Imagine a Clear Earth, where the only justice is the Comm Ev, Dave is free to kill anyone he pleases, and any problems are caused by unbelievers who faked their way up the Bridge. Scary.Praise God who in his infinite kindness grants truth to those who seek it and blindness to those who reject it. May the sheeple look up, may the slaves shake off their mental chains, may it happen in my time.

      • DodoTheLaser

        You mean you don’t want to live on the planet where everyone manages their lives according to 8 dynamics, stats, tone levels, rudiments, arc, krc, ksw and conditioned by formulas and conditions? Yeah, me neither.

  • California

    The consensus seems to be that Donald Myers was out of line with the web-site however reprehensible Kendrick Moxon was and is. And I think that Graham Berry was incorrect in continuing to support, encourage and represent Donald in his behavior.

    Thank you, Tony, for posting this and giving the critics and activists a forum to discuss this issue without fear of on-line attacks and rancor.

    • Espiando

      If there’s such a consensus, how come I have almost 50 upvotes for my message supporting AGP and explaining that what he did was an Anon approach, something that people not involved in the Anon culture would necessarily understand or condone due to basic philosophical differences?

      This isn’t an attack on you or the rest of the moralfags. I just don’t think your assessment of the situation here is entirely correct.

      • California

        Consensus does not imply complete agreement by everyone. Of course, there are some people in this forum who are supportive of what Donald and Graham are doing…. and they can freely express their views. That is what democracy is all about.

  • Anonymous

    There has been a lot of “happy talk” lately about playing fair and not being a big bad meany to Scientology.

    Here is a quick (excerpted) reminder of one of the milder L. Ron Hubbard PL’s about the true aspirations are of Scientology:

    TARGETS

    The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:

    T1. Depopularizing the enemy to a point of total obliteration.

    T2. Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or
    proprietors of all news media.

    T3. Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures.

    T4. Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor
    international finance and shifting them to a less precarious
    finance standard.

    T5. Generally revitalizing the societies in which we are operating.

    T6. Winning overwhelming public support.

    T7. Use all other similar groups as allies.

    The above is from the confidential PL Targets, Defense 16 FEB 1969 by L. Ron Hubbard.

    The audience was Guardian’s Office Intelligence Staff and related PR folks.

    If you’ve ever sat in a room with people who are all hyped up on this and similar issues, you will realize what these folks think they are up to.

    It is silly to think about now, but the plan was to take over the world. That is what Hubbard was doing.

    Anybody who got in the way was to be “handled.”

    There is still a fanatical aspect to the way many folks in Scientology behave.

    The core of Scientology is the dishonest accumulation of material wealth and influence for a tiny few at the expense of all others.

    Everything else in Scientology is window dressing and distraction.

    Playing nice with folks running that agenda is suicide.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Are we talking about religion or military organization? Heh.

      • Anonymous

        We are talking about a determined, deliberate intelligence operation.

        Not the weird, conspiratorial crap that crazy people spew.

        But the actual documented plans and actions of Scientology.

        If the GO had not been caught in the Snow White affair, most of the more malevolent aspects of Scientology would never have been brought out into the open.

        • DodoTheLaser
          • Anonymous

            I know you know…did not mean to be condescending.

            But when I see people trying to hand flowers to folks who would kill them in an instant if they thought they could get away with it, it gives me the chills.

        • Techie

          Fortunately there is a big gap between what they want to do and what they actually can do. They like to think of themselves as super-intelligent secret agent types but in actual fact they are sleep-deprived amateur bumblers. The toxic work environment, constantly changing priorities and poorly conceived organizational setup leads to a few random successes and lots of work that goes to no good end. The occasional brilliant success of a rogue true believer gets attention, but often the one who succeeds once is dragged down by envious fellows or gets promoted far beyond his ability. The rule in the Sea Org (unspoken) is “Don’t display competence”. If you are good at something you will get more of it to do than anyone can, and will fail miserably trying to do the impossible. They are more to be pitied than feared.

          • Anonymous

            There is a brand of incompetence that does exist.

            But there is also still a determined group of folks operating in the dark, with help from outside professionals, who are capable of much targeted harm to critcs and unwarranted influence on Opinion Leaders in government and elsewhere. Underestimating this capability is a serious error.

            The negative legal outcomes reported on this site are not happening by accident.

            • Techie

              Well, they do have money, lawyers and professional private investigators to prop them up. I will grant you that. And Dave with his ruthless henchmen make up for their incompetence with sheer cruelty and bravado. They can’t keep it up forever though. History shows that a reign of terror only lasts until it starts to eat its own leadership. This process is very far along in Scientology. Dave can’t go it alone whatever he thinks. With effective legal attacks from outside and incipient rot inside the edifice is doomed to collapse soon. I hope there will not be too much human wreckage to clean up after, but fear that there will be some.

            • Anonymous

              There will be a denouement, agreed. To speed that up, continued pressure must be applied.

    • Espiando

      In other words, follow Warren Zevon’s advice: bring lawyers, guns, and money.

      • Anonymous

        As self-defense, yes.

        Shining sunlight on the true operations and activities of Scientology is the primary offensive weapon.

  • NOLAGirl

    Do we have a good hangover remedy in the Bunker? I feel like I’ve been rolled over by a garbage truck. 🙂

    • Juicer77

      Lots of water, fresh air, a good walk and then eggs and toast with Tylenol. Hope it was worth it 😉

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Two 10 mgs of valium and two alka-setzer. In my 20’s I’d stay until the bars closed and had to be at work at 6;30 am. Then around 4p I’d be ready to do it all over again.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Hair of the dog with B complex. Wait 30 to 45 minutes and then have a hangover breakfast (This is to include much grease and nothing remotely healthy or it will ruin the magic).

      • Artoo45

        Hangtown fry. Oysters. No, really. Oysters.

  • FOTF2012

    As much as I enjoy Angry Gay Pope’s in your face tactics, I think the judge got it right. The decision might serve as a precedent to rein in Church of Scientology if it goes too far in its attack sites targeting specific people.

  • anoni81b4u

    The Angry gay pope is clever little SP.. Im sure the new web address wont make them much happier, If AGPs previous actions are a reflection of what he does now. He will piss them off and then tease them about it… fucking guy cracks me up

    • JackTheGiantKiller

      And he made Moxon work and spend his time and $cientology $$$ .

  • mars bella

    I agree with the court decision on this one. I have often disliked AGP aggressive tactics. I think he has his own agenda and feels he can treat people in any way that suits him. A tiny bit of megalomania perhaps? Bullying is not pretty and I don’t feel its acceptable. This is more about AGP and his ego and desire to be noticed, I doubt he has any real care for the people who are stuck in this cult. People laugh at his antics and applaud him because they feel he is doing it to the enemy therefore making it right in their minds…but Its only funny until it happens to us, and the line between friend and enemy can shift quickly.