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Scientology Admits Connection to Slimy Anonymous Attack Sites — Again

WhoIsPaulHaggisThe Hollywood Reporter has a nice scoop today: An open letter from Crash director Paul Haggis about his friend Leah Remini’s defection from the Church of Scientology.

The world became aware of Haggis’s own departure from Scientology in Lawrence Wright’s epic February 2011 New Yorker profile, “The Apostate.” And as we reported when we broke the news of Remini’s defection on July 8, one of the things that got Remini in some hot water with Scientology “ethics” officers was that she stood by Haggis when other Scientologists didn’t.

Now, he’s standing by her. But what also caught our eye was another stunning admission by Scientology’s hapless spokeswoman, Karin Pouw, who has once again admitted that the church is involved with anonymous websites that smear the reputations of people who dare to speak out about Scientology’s abuses.

More than a year ago, at the Village Voice, we explained how these websites work. A slew of them appeared after several former top Scientology officials defected and then went public. Some of them had URLs that shared a formula: “WhoIsMartyRathbun,” “WhoIsMikeRinder,” and yes, “WhoIsPaulHaggis” (see above). They not only had similar names, but they looked alike and shared a lot of information — much of it right out of Scientology’s propaganda magazine, Freedom.

Mike Rinder was the former top spokesman for Scientology and also ran the Office of Special Affairs, the church’s public relations, legal affairs, and intelligence-gathering wing. OSA also runs Scientology’s dirty tricks operations with the use of private investigators and attorneys. Rinder tells us there’s simply no doubt that OSA — the outfit he used to run — is behind the smear websites, which hide their connection to the church behind Internet services that conceal their ownership.

For years, we had looked for information to bolster that claim that these sites were operated by the church itself. Then, in that article we wrote last April, we explained what was then a big break: Karin Pouw had blundered and admitted to a British journalist that the church itself had produced a laughable “documentary” about former church official Marty Rathbun that appeared on many of the sites.

This is what she said in a letter to British reporter Guy Adams…

I further wish to point out that the Church has put out videos which show Rathbun lying in his own words, based on his own statements. To that end I further invite you to watch the video at this link showing Rathbun’s nature: http://www.whoismartyrathbun.com/

Pouw not only admitted that the video of Rathbun (“Marty Rathbun: A Violent Psychopath”) was produced by the church, she even directed him to the “WhoIsMartyRathbun” attack site.

Now, she’s done it again.

When The Hollywood Reporter published Haggis’s open letter this morning, the magazine checked with Karin Pouw for a statement, and apparently asked about the “WhoIsPaulHaggis” website, which attacks the director with some sneering, comical attacks that are right from the pages of Freedom.

Amazingly, Pouw not only admitted that the church is supplying information to these attack sites, but that it had never hidden that fact: “The church has never hidden the fact it supplied information for the websites,” she said to THR.

Wow. We hope other news organizations are paying attention. Just a couple of weeks ago, RadarOnline wrote this about the slimy smear sites: “RadarOnline.com has been unable to confirm any ties between the websites and the Church of Scientology.”

Next time, Radar, check with Karin Pouw.

Pouw also told The Hollywood Reporter that the church has nothing to do with registering the URL “WhoIsLeahRemini,” and we believe her. It’s our belief that the website was registered as a way to keep the church from buying it.

But it’s important to note that Scientology operates many attack sites that don’t use the “WhoIs” formula. As we reported in our story last year, there were more than 25 websites that attacked Marty Rathbun, largely with the same information but with many variations in their URLs. He may have the record for most sites aimed at him. With a quick search, we found six that were aimed at Mike Rinder.

In all, there may be as many as 100 anonymous smear sites actively targeting people who have dared to criticize the church and its leader, David Miscavige. They are filled with innuendo and juvenile attacks, and now the Church of Scientology has at least admitted that it has “supplied information” to them.

Some church.

 
UPDATE: After seeing Haggis’s letter, the church has really outdone itself with a response that is beyond the pale. Here it is in all its glory…

STATEMENT BY CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL CONCERNING PAUL HAGGIS’ “OPEN LETTER”

Mr. Haggis is a status-obsessed screenwriter who in the words of The Hollywood Reporter has been in “the wilderness” professionally for three years. Mr. Haggis once again is exploiting his tenuous connection with Scientology to grab headlines. His statement that the organization anonymously comments negatively about those who leave the Church is delusional and borders on paranoia.

Desperately craving attention, his self-serving “open letter” is a transparent plug for an upcoming film still lacking U.S. distribution. If Mr. Haggis was as successful and prolific at manufacturing drama for audiences as he is at manufacturing it for gossip sites, then his career might have never gotten lost in the “wilderness.”

Despite his spin, the truth is that Mr. Haggis was an inactive Scientologist for more than 30 years until he orchestrated a disingenuous “departure” in 2009 aimed solely at getting media attention. As a result, Paul Haggis has no first-hand knowledge about the Church of Scientology but instead relies on a small collection of unemployed bloggers living on the fringe of the Internet who are obsessed with spinning myths about the Church.

Mr. Haggis has chosen to align himself with a small posse of lunatics with arrest records, who have acknowledged in depositions to being secretly on the payroll of tabloids and who have admitted on national television to outright lying. As for Paul Haggis’ real story, see http://www.freedommag.org/special-reports/new-yorker/video-profile-the-many-personas-of-paul-haggis.html.

As to the true story of Scientology, under the 25-year leadership of Mr. Miscavige, following in the footsteps of our Founder, L. Ron Hubbard, the Church is enjoying tremendous expansion as shown in our 37 new Churches opening in six continents and the many new parishioners joining their congregations. Our Churches are open seven days a week and many have public display areas to answer all questions or one can visit our website, www.Scientology.org.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 31, 2013 at 12:00

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  • Simon

    Has Karen Powwow called her a bitter apostate yet?

    • Mrs Libnish

      That always makes me laugh….”You called her a WHAT?”.

    • AnyOldName1

      Bitter DEFROCKED apostate, please. Don’t forget the DEFROCKED!

  • iRideTheHarlemLine

    WhoIsLeahRemini.com… wonder who registered that one.

    • Missionary Kid

      Hopefully, it’s one of Leah’s friends.

      • Simon

        Didn’t Tony find out it’s another Sciloon site?

        • Missionary Kid

          No. See John P.’s post.

    • Ruby

      I thought I read recently, in one of the blogs comments, that the person commenting did the purchase as a gift for Leah and bought it up before the church attempted…I can’t remember who said it or which blog…Rinder’s maybe? It was right when Leah first announced her leaving

  • seataka

    Thanks Tony!

  • Simi Valley

    Once when I was in the SO (and OT III), I was called upon to look into various people’s PC folders to look for certain personal information not related to their auditing. I was astonished that the SO was violating the “priest/penitent” thing even back then (1988).

    • Missionary Kid

      When you left, how much time after that was it?

      • Simi Valley

        I left the SO in 1989 but didn’t leave the CoS until 2012 … my bad!

        • Missionary Kid

          At least you left, and you’re aware of the shit that they pull. I hope they didn’t fair game you, or if they did, they didn’t go all out.

          I don’t blame you for staying in because I’m just glad you’re out. Hugs for leaving.

          • Simi Valley

            Thanks for the good wishes. Yes, my life is at least 1000% better now. In Tony’s post of New Year’s Day 2013, I describe how hard it is to leave this cult … It’s comparable to being a fly stuck to flypaper.

            • Missionary Kid

              The brainwash is deep, pervasive, all encompassing, and it starts the moment one walks in the door. I’m going back and looking for your story.
              Happy Trails to you.

            • Roger Larsson

              10-15 years is the aiming symbol in yearsl to scientologists,according to knowers, Other cults are worse. They make suicides instead of being true lovers of Tony Ortegas blog.

            • Missionary Kid

              Roger, when you say “aiming symbol” do you mean the average time in $cientology?
              Are you also trying to say that people from other cults tend to end up as suicides instead of on this blog?

            • Roger Larsson

              To be able
              to describe the reality with own words is to pay with time. If time isn’t money it’s love.

            • Captain Howdy

              I think he was saying it takes that long to shake scientology programming completely. I’ve heard it takes at least 7 years.

            • Roger Larsson

              Shake milk for ten years and it goes bad.

              Time is life.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. There are some aspects, though, IMO, that will always be there.

              BTW, what’s the significance of your avatar symbol?

            • Simi Valley

              There have been some suicides among ex-scilons but also some who pull in these horrible diseases that kill them … Hy Levy comes to mind – he left the SO and Scientology, started a new life in IT (where he was primarily self-taught) and made it professionally, but he was probably too broken in spirit to keep going.

            • Simi Valley

              Eventually I’m going to put something up on youtube … I try to describe what the brainwashing does to a cult victim. Yes, “deep, pervasive, all encompassing” is an excellent description. And the poor victims inside believe just the opposite – they are completely deluded. Very sad. I am blessed that I am having this opportunity to heal and start my life over, because that it what it involves.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              You have full support here for any truth you care to share. So happy things are going well for you.

            • Simi Valley

              Thanks… I can let you know when my thing is up on youtube.

            • Robert Eckert

              When your thing is up on youtube??? Sorry, that sentence sounds like you’re going to go all Carlos Danger on us.

            • Once_Born

              May I ask, what was it that helped you most to finally make the break?

            • Simi Valley

              I guess I tried to reply to this earlier and it didn’t display properly or something… First it was Debbie Cook’s email. Then I had to read the true bio of Hubbard (Bare Faced Messiah) as opposed to the whitewashed fantasy bio that the Cof$ presents. Arnie Lerma’s site, http://www.lermanet.com was particularly helpful with info about how Scientology deeply hypnotizes its members and how the e-meter affects the body, etc.

            • Once_Born

              Thanks for that – and all the best with your new life!

          • i-Betty

            Hugs from me, too. Big ones. And homemade brownies. Big ones. :)

  • http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/author/richardhorgan Richard Horgan

    Maybe she can post a link to this THR aticle at whoiskarinpouw.com, locked down since 2011.

  • John P.

    If the WhoIsLeahRemini domain name was indeed purchased by Leah or her family, they get the 2013 Katie Holmes Memorial award for detailed stealth planning to “blow.”

    It just continues to stagger the mind that the cult issues these statements, all presumably using Hubbard’s oh-so-masterful PR policies. While there are many genuine Kool-Aid drinkers who honestly, sincerely avoid any entheta and wouldn’t see such embarrassing self-immolation, there are tons of “under the radar” and “sideliner” clams who pretend to stay involved just to avoid family and economic harm from disconnection. And plenty of those folks read stuff on the Web. Every time they come across another Karin Pouw statement, they have to cringe and it has to move them just that much closer to walking out. So even if the cult doesn’t care on the impact of their idiotic attempts at PR on their reputation among non-members, they’re still pouring gasoline on their image problem with a significant part of the membership, the part that is the real economic “bread basket” for donations.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I’d call it the “Katie Holmes Masterpiece Award”. Memorial sounds like she is dead, and she is anything but!

    • Missionary Kid

      {Gee, and I was so looking forward to taking the courses on Marketing and Administration at Hubbard College of Administration International.}

      I wonder whether where they teach how to do footbullets in the PR100 series or PR200 series of Marketing and Public Relations. Karin has mastered the art. They should give her a degree for the life experience she’s demonstrated in using LRH {tech} to shoot herself in the foot.

      • John P.

        How you know that even the cult knows the Hubbard College of Administration, and by association, all of management “tech” is a complete, useless turd? Because they didn’t participate in the Great Renaming of the 1970s-1990s, where every pathetic institution of higher learning in the US replaced the word “college” in its name with “University,” which sounds way more grandiose.

        One would certainly think with all that brilliant tech, which prepares its students to be way more capable at running the world’s organizations than the graduates of Harvard, Northwestern, Wharton or Stanford B-Schools, they would be called “Hubbard University” by now. And anything to do with “universe” has to be especially important to culties because Hubbard obviously intended to found the best school in this sector of the universe.

        • Missionary Kid

          Of course, HCAI isn’t even accredited, but that’s because the wog world refuses to recognize the overwhelming brilliance of LRH because of their religious bigotry.

          In only a few more years, after the opening of the Super Power Center Building, it will be recognized, and students will bypass Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, and all the others and flock to HCAI.

          The great minds on the faculty will not have to have second jobs, working for Tom Cruse and other high stress jobs and be able to devote full time to imparting all their wisdom on enquiring minds, and to further LRH’s tech.

          At least, the same fate won’t happen to LRH’s works that befell the library at Alexandria because his words are written in stainless steel and encased in titanium.

          • Once_Born

            The works of the Scottish {poet} William McGonagall are still in print – but only because they are so inept as to be hilarious. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall

            If Hubbard’s immortal words are still published in years to come, it will only be because of their unwitting comedy.

            Personally, I think McGonagall will last longer – he’s a better writer.

            • John P.

              One can also get reissues of the lyrical stylings of Mrs. Elva Miller, even though her most successful “hit” was in 1966. I received a copy of the Capitol Records “Ultra Lounge” reissue as a gag gift a while ago. See: http://www.mrsmillersworld.com, or wikipedia.

            • Once_Born

              McGonagall and Miller were obviously a match made in heaven, tragically separated by the years.

            • i-Betty

              I like it! 😀

            • Robert Eckert

              I had described McGonagall to a friend as “the Plan 9 from Outer Space of Scottish poets” and then, only a couple weeks later, there was a documentary about the Tay Bridge collapse, in which they recited McGonagall’s epic poem about the disaster and my friend said “This is worse than Plan 9”

            • cicely neville

              I am huge fan of dear old William and possess a copy of the ‘Tay Bridge’ and other gems. But what about Julia Moore, the ‘Sweet Singer of Michigan’. whose works, Mark Twain said, “gave him joy for 20 years”? Her ‘Ode to Steven Dowling Botts’ is one of the greatest treasures of American lit.

            • Robert Eckert

              How have I never heard of her? “The Great Chicago Fire” certainly ranks with the Tay Bridge:

              http://homepages.wmich.edu/~cooneys/txt/Moore/Chicago.Fire.html

              And “Brigham Young’s Wives” shows that she could have been a Bunkerite:

              http://homepages.wmich.edu/~cooneys/txt/Moore/julia.collected.html

            • cicely neville

              Look in ‘Huckleberry Finn’. Twain had his character Emmeline Grangerford write the Botts ode. i think in his foreword he explains where he got it.

              See if you can get ‘Very Bad Poetry’ edited by Kathryn and Ross Petras. It will give you joy for more than 20 years! If you’ve never heard of Amanda McKittrick Ros, boy have you been missing out!

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            MK, we at Freedom Magazine are looking for a writer for Freedom Magazine. We like your style. Please send us your resume. Pay is excellent.

            Must be able to work with OT’s without being overwhelmed by their super powers.

            Physical requirements include travel, ability to wear a camera on your head, and an ability withstand frequent pelting with rotten fruit, eggs, coffee grinds, etc.

            Must wear cheap suits and cheap shoes.

            Must be able to tell lies in print and

            Older “has been” tabloid hack preferred.

            One more thing: Must pass the “scream test” with COB. This is a five minute tantrum of screaming wherein you must prove you can dodge at least ten thrown objects ranging from ashtrays to laptops to chairs.

            • KJP in Portland

              I’d fail. I’d throw the objects back with more accuracy.

            • Missionary Kid

              I respectfully have to decline. It will interfere with my job as a pimp for both male and female working guys and girls and unfortunately it would be a giant step down in status, regardless of the pay.

              I’m not that desperate.

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              While we in the Church of Scientology may be lower than the prostitution business at least we, uh, have, ahh…

              Never mind.

            • Missionary Kid

              *Laughter so hard, I damn near fell out of my chair.*

        • HelluvaHoax!

          Senior management was in fact working on a new name that included “University”. . .

          Hubbard University of Communication, Knowledge, Spirituality, Technology, Ethics & Reality.

          But then someone did a clay demo of the word “acronym”.

          • Phil McKraken

            LOLOLOL!!!

        • Couch_Incident

          That’s it John – you can forget all about that recommendation letter to the University of Phoenix board of admissions.

          • John P.

            That’s it John – you can forget all about that recommendation letter to the University of Phoenix board of admissions.

            It goes without saying that we in Global Capitalism HQ are the largest stockholder of Apollo Group, the parent company of the for-profit University of Phoenix. Thus, one quick call to the CEO means no time wasted dealing with the admissions committee should they even be selective enough to have one. We in Global Capitalism HQ prefer our education from universities that we can’t purchase at any price — the usual places where the prestige of the university is measured by the number of Nobel Prizes faculty and former students have won rather than by their football team’s won/loss record in post-season bowl games.

            • Missionary Kid

              What are you? A commie? 😉

              {Everyone knows that a good sports team assures academic excellence. That’s why Phoenix has no Nobel Prize winners.}

            • John P.

              The counterexample is the California Institute of Technology, whose graduates and faculty have won 33 Nobel prizes, placing in the top 20 universities globally on the Nobel list. It’s also by far the smallest of those schools, with less than 1,000 undergraduates, so it has the highest number of Nobels per 1,000 students of any university in history.

              On the other hand, the Caltech football team is even worse than the worst nerd stereotype you can imagine. They usually lose to local parochial high school football teams. One of my relatives attended Caltech years ago, and was heavily recruited for football as the “great white hope” who might help them win their first game in many years. He played fullback and anchored the defensive line at nose tackle for four years, because he towered over most of the other players and significantly outweighed them … at 5′ 7″ and 160 pounds.

            • Phil McKraken

              Uh, 5′ 7″ towered over most of the other players? Color me skeptical. This nerd calls BS and asks for evidence.

            • John P.

              It was my father’s oldest brother, who was a freshman in 1947. Nerds were smaller then. I would expect that my dad has the PR photo of him in uniform (which I have seen and know we have a copy of) in the family archives. The assertion that he was made fullback and nose tackle because he was bigger than the other players came from my uncle’s own mouth when he repeated the story far too many times at family gatherings when I was a kid.

            • Missionary Kid

              They are like Phoenix in that neither now has a football team. 😉

              Their basketball team at least won five game this year.

              They were cited by the NCAA for academic infractions. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/sports/caltech-ncaa-case-gives-new-meaning-to-academically-ineligible.html?_r=0

              Go Beavers.

        • aquaclara

          Just in.
          “The Miscavige University Of Planetary Brilliance, formerly known as the Hubbard College of Adminstration, has announced the date for their Great Renaming Ceremony. The event, which is expected to draw thousands, will be celebrated with balloons and banners at David Platinuminus Meritorious Miscavige Hall (formerly known as Mecca, the SuperPower Building and New Flag Buildling, respectively) on October 25th, 2013.

          Donations will be expected and collected at the door in recognition of David Miscavige’s exemplary leadership in furtherance of the billion-year goals of planetary dissemination.”

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      On the Web anyone with 2 functioning brain cells left can see for themselves the numerous testimonies of survivors, accounts of pending and concluded lawsuits, and examine for themselves the real brain-washing done with their so-called tech. This Ponzi scheme is so clearly run by an uneducated, unsophisticated, yet arrogant sadistic sociopath, why, oh why isn’t there more law enforcement interest in this cult? The US govt. went after F.L.D.S., in my view Co$ is guilty of enslavement, fraud, child labor and gross abuse in regards to followers’s health and well beings, as well as killings within their walls, it is incomprehensible that no one in position to investigate thoroughly has yet, at least, looked at this.

      • Couch_Incident

        Money is part of it, but unfortunately, I think that going after FLDS was pushed and given cover by LDS (America’s most respectable cult). FLDS is an embarrassment to LDS and its expansion.

        As others have pointed out, had the Branch Davidian matter in 1993 not been such a disaster (law enforcement deaths, prolonged standoff on national TV, administration on the defensive, cult member deaths at the end [including children], etc.), I’d like to believe that the feds would have been more willing to act on what they surely know about SCN.

        • Robert Eckert

          And the debacle when a Congressman went down to Jonestown. And about Waco, worse from the Feds’ point of view even than the cataclysm is the endless afterlife that it has had as a source of conspiracy theories about how evil the Feds are. Timothy McVeigh, for example, was in part “avenging” Waco.

      • aquaclara

        The power of the press and the lawyers, the incredibly brave written and courtroom testimony of Carolyn Jessop and Elissa Walls, combined with the active work of numerous dedicated advocates for the victims finally opened the door for the government to step in and convict Warren Jeffs. Sadly, the government, as well as the LDS, had known of the problems for decades.

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      John, it goes to show you that the cult is seriously undermanned. Having identical sites with the same cooked-up information is a sign of ineptitude and desperation. It’s staggering to think that the Guardian’s Office had 5,000 operatives involved in ‘Operation Snow White’. Now there’s but a handful of decrepit OT8 ‘Walking Miracles’ washed-up cultists like John Allender sent to harass people. They’re in real trouble.

      • Spackle Motion

        What I want to know is what happened to those thousands of GO operatives? We only know of a handful that are now outspoken critics. Where are the rest of the cowards?

        • Gerard Plourde

          I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that many of them have died given the stress, poor diet, excessive smoking and lack of health care that accompany the billion-year contract.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          They’ve blown, been declared, slipped away, or died. I say it’s all the above. Scientology peaked in the 60’s and 70’s. Hubbard managed to drive away people way before Miscavige. But Miscavige is the master when it comes to schisms. He created the first major schism in the early 80’s when RTC destroyed the prosperous mission network. Thousands of Scientologists left or were declared. Now we’re experiencing the new mass exodus. Pretty soon there won’t be many left to man the store. We don’t need the gov’t to step in to shut them down. Miscavige is doing a fine job all by himself.

          • Once_Born

            The CofS during Hubbard’s peak time had a tremendous turnover, but the old fraud knew how to play to the preoccupations of his time (nuclear holocaust ,galactic empires &c.) and attract more followers to make up the deficit.

            Now that Hubbard has ‘dropped the body’ and the years have passed, the 50’s sci-fi tropes that once worked so well have dated into laughable obscurity. The new management can’t fix this – they have zero imagination, are completely clueless regarding the ‘wog’ world, and can’t significantly modify the infallible words of {Source} in any case.

            I suspect that the organisation’s power will now gradually fade until they can no longer intimidate all the people and organisations they have made enemies of. When it comes, the end will be swift and unexpected – like that of the Soviet Union.

            • John P.

              Well said. And the demise of the Soviet Union is a great parallel to what will happen to the cult. By 1980 or so, it was abundantly clear to political scientists outside (and to some inside) the Soviet empire that the economic model (state controlled economy, pathological avoidance of trade with outside world to avoid monetizing your oil and gas reserves, spending 40% of GDP on military, unable to feed your population) was unsustainable. However, while everybody knew they were going down, nobody accurately predicted when or what would actually trigger it (relatively small-scale “people power” protests in the Central European satellites).

              That’s why I have consistently cautioned that it’s unwise to believe that a single event, such as the TomKat divorce mess last year or Leah’s departure this year, will bring the cult down.

              If one wants to draw further parallels to the collapse of the Soviet Union, it could well be that the rapidly building wave of Narconon scandals, coming as they do from a satellite organization, could lead to either major distractions via civil suits or criminal charges against the cult, and thus bring the date of the implosion forward by some amount. I’d argue that time wasted on Narconon-related litigation is more damaging than the economic impact of legal fees and awards, since every minute spent on legal issues on Narconon will help make Miscavige make a higher number of stupid decisions in the core business.

            • Once_Born

              Agreed. No single event will bring them down.

              That will take insurance fraud prosecutions + civil suits for wrongful death + high profile celebrity resignations + media attention &c. &c. all happening at once.

              Which is happening now.

            • Missionary Kid

              {But, as leader of the {church} of $cientology, he has acquired such super powers that he’s able to handle so much more than the central committee of the USSR.}

            • Once_Born

              I stand corrected tovarish. How could have doubted the glorious party… er religion.

            • InTheNameOfXenu

              ‘If one wants to draw further parallels to the collapse of the Soviet Union, it could well be that the rapidly building wave of Narconon scandals, coming as they do from a satellite organization, could lead to either major distractions via civil suits or criminal charges against the cult, and thus bring the date of the implosion forward by some amount. I’d argue that time wasted on Narconon-related litigation is more damaging than the economic impact of legal fees and awards, since every minute spent on legal issues on Narconon will help make Miscavige make a higher number of stupid decisions in the core business.’

              Carl Sagan used the word exponential to describe how things occur, multiple, and leads to an eventuality. In Scientology’s case it’s exponentially headed for extinction.

              I miss Carl.

            • Missionary Kid

              Don’t we all.

            • Once_Born

              Exactly. A star burns for billions of years, gradually shrinking faster and faster – until its final collapse and death takes only minutes.

              The CofS is getting close to that sudden and final collapse

            • John P.

              In Carl’s world, we could think of the cult as getting near the event horizon. Depending on the equation that determines the exponential line of decay, the actual implosion could be many years past the “event horizon” at which their demise becomes inevitable, like in a Greek tragedy. But I think the lack of members, the inability to defend effectively against an increasing amount of litigation, and the escape or aging and death of current members is very close to a tipping point.

              To understand why exponential decay takes so damned long, look at the history of the Unarians (Unarius Academy of Science), a silly UFO cult in San Diego that formed in 1954, around the same time as Scientology. They’re still lurching along today, doing whatever it is that they do, 25 years after the death of the second co-founder. And they were never as big, as rich, or as ruthlessly bent on self-preservation as Scientology. They just keep doing their thing even though they are well inside the event horizon and somehow keep noodling along. Perhaps they are still around because they drive cooler cars than most Scientologists: http://www.pacificsandiego.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Unarian_34072.jpg

            • Missionary Kid

              I almost read that as “Unitarians.” As a friend of mine says, Unitarians worship the Unit.

            • Isaac Clarke

              We must all be vigilant against the foul Unitarians.

            • Missionary Kid

              Mort Sahl said that when Unitarians pray, they say, “To whom it may concern.”

              They even accept Pastafarians like me.

            • Couch_Incident

              Everybody loves crazy Aunt Ruth (aka Archangel Uriel)! Ridding one’s self of Body Thetans by the e-meter is a poor imitation of Uriel’s techniques demonstrated on her cable access show:
              For instance, Uriel might decide that a certain Unarian had been a murderous space captain or an evil sea serpent in a past life. So the group would do these semi-improvised and somewhat elaborate plays, that were designed to “drastically relive” these past lives, so that the Unarian follower would be freed from their karma (more or less). In the one with the sea serpent, they literally videotaped it next to a swimming pool and several people got into a crappy aquatic dragon suit fashioned from floating pool furniture and innertubes and swam around as the rest of them held a trial and passed judgement on the “creature.” A lot of their psychodramas had the trial by jury aspect to them. http://dangerousminds.net/comments/interplanetary_confederation_day_with_the_unarius

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              It certainly sounds more entertaining than sitting in a folding chair all day clutching a soup can while someone drones repetitive comments at you.

            • cicely neville

              Why have I never heard of this highly entertaining group? Alas, one misses out on so much when living in remote country districts. i feel culturally deprived.

            • John P.

              Please don’t berate yourself. The Unarians were mostly big in LA, and I don’t think they got out to remote country districts like the remote villages in the “Canada” region of upstate New York, or even some of the small towns in the rest of the United States.

            • InTheNameOfXenu

              Thanks for sharing your thoughts on my comment about exponentials. Being close to the event horizon is like saying they(the cult) are goners. They reached a point of no return. There will be many more foot-nukes, defections, and litigation that will chip away at the Scientology cult further weakening and shrinking it down. Most likely Scientology will be around for another 50 years, but will be so small they will be forgotten like the Unarians.

              What will keep them going are their children. Perhaps, Miscabbage will come to his senses and allow Sea org member to have children. It’ll be the only way to propagate the Scientology species and to have a steady flow of indentured servants to run the organization.

            • Conditioner

              If you have ever wondered exactly how and why the Soviet monolith collapsed “overnight” please read Lenin’s Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire by Pulitzer Prize winner David Remnick, editor of the New Yorker. No stranger to Scientology, he had to confront the boxes and boxes rebuttal ‘evidence’ brought in to counter Lawrence Wright’s book.

              Lenin’s Tomb is written in a style that makes complex political and economic issues easy to understand, a hallmark of Remnick’s. As such, it is a fascinating and engrossing book.

              One can find interesting parallels between the collapse of the USSR and the CofS.

              Amazon has a few copies left.

            • i-Betty

              I don’t think I’ll ever get used to seeing the word ‘wog’ used so freely. In the UK, ‘wog’ was right up there with n*gg*r and p*k** as such vile racist slurs that they became entirely socially unacceptable by the 1980s.

              To me, and knowing LRon spent so much time in England, it is just more evidence that he was a foul, hateful, racist pig. He will have known FULL WELL how offensive the word ‘wog’ was, and yet he chose it to describe the 99.99% of society that HE deemed unworthy. So…the guy deliberately uses a vile racist taunt to describe his enemies. This makes him doubly racist in my opinion. If he was living in the UK at any point up until the 1980s then he knew exactly how offensive the term was.

              PS. This is absolutely not directed as a criticism to you, Once-Born, I hope you know that. I know it’s part of the lexicon of scientology, and as I’ve chosen to become an anti-scientology activist I have to accept that it’s a word I’ll see freely here and on the other anti-CoS websites. It just never fails to shock me. It’s like seeing people dropping the word ‘n*gg*r’ casually into everyday conversation. Decent humans just wouldn’t dream of doing it. xxx

            • Once_Born

              Absolutely no offence taken.

              All the same, it’s worth saying that I use the word only in the specialised scientology sense, as it refers to degraded beings like me.

              Humans are all one species, who came out Africa not long ago. Racism is scientific nonsense, bigotry is stupid and shameful and I hate them both with a will.

              Hubbard’s use of the term does, indeed shows just how dated his attitudes are, and what a nasty piece of work he was. I use it in posts to emphasise this.

            • i-Betty

              I’m so glad you understood what I meant, Once_Born, thank you :) The only blame lies with the man who coined the term, knowing full well how offensive it was. xxx

            • Missionary Kid

              I was born under the Union Jack, and attended my first school in another colony. Both are no longer colonies. I understand the negativity attached to the word wog. In this forum, I wear it proudly, since LRH chose that word to denote people who’ve never been it. I don’t use the term anywhere else.

            • Marie Claire Wolf

              In here darling it is a noble title. 😉

            • Unex Skcus

              “The problem with China is, that there are too many Chinks here” – LRH

              http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25273-A-message-to-chinese-people-from-Ron-hubbard

            • Observer

              Oh, he knew exactly what he was doing when he started using that word in reference to non-Scientologists. That particular slur isn’t used here in the US though, and it has no real meaning to us.

            • stateofcircle

              As much as I hate to say it, Hubbard was a much more charismatic man than Miscavige. He knew how to charm and when to turn it up and give his followers a taste of that carrot at just the right moment before they gave up completely. He seemingly had a way of making members feel as though they had a personal relationship with him, and because of that, they felt a sense of loyalty to him and his cult. After all, one can’t really start a relatively successful cult without enough charisma to get people to abandon reality.

              Miscavige is shrewd, cold and robotic. And while Hubbard was most certainly cruel and selfish underneath it all, he had the ability to create a connection with people on an emotional level, simultaneously hurting and healing them, much like an abusive boyfriend who beats his girlfriend and then hugs her, tells her everything is going to be OK and that he loves her, and brings home a beautiful bouquet of flowers. It is very easy to get trapped in that cycle, and it seems to me many people did just that while Hubbard was around. It is not enough to just say Miscavige has no emotions; just look at his family. He cannot even pretend to have any sort of connection with his brother, father or, most importantly, his own wife. Those who have been closest to him tell of how he mocks and degrades nearly everyone, even those who are considered to be his “friends”, like, obviously, Tom Cruise. He and Broeker seemed to be “friends” before Hubbard’s death, but look how that turned out: he was out for himself the entire time and didn’t give a second thought to destroying him to get what he wanted. In fact, I don’t think I’ve read one single story that told of a genuine human moment experienced with Miscavige. He may be able to turn it on enough to make a speech or greet people, but we all can see how overly produced and disingenuous it is. It’s the same old party line rhetoric, impersonal and dry, serving only his vision and denying that any other opinion or thought besides his own even exists. Even if Hubbard was relentless in his current wants, he was able to speak in such a way that could acknowledge his followers, making them feel like they were a part of something. Miscavige acknowledges statistics and, as I said in a post yesterday, one cannot have a personal relationship with or feel a connection to a statistic for very long. He doesn’t hang in the trenches with other Scientologists as Hubbard did in Saint Hill or on the Apollo, he doesn’t talk about his personal experience with the sacred “tech”, and he doesn’t even write his own words when he addresses his flock. All of that and more kills any chance of his followers feeling any sort of connection to him, their leader. If a person is not emotionally invested/connected to something, it generally doesn’t last long, and Miscavige’s inability to do this has been and is one of the many reasons members will continue to drift away.

            • Once_Born

              Sociologists (that’s *sociologists*, not scientologists) who study New Religious Movements use the term “Charismatic Leaders” to describe individuals like Hubbard – people who created a new NRM practically single-handed, by force of personality.

              A critical point in the history of movements founded by charismatic leaders is reached when the founder dies. For various reasons, most of these movements eventually collapse – a process that can take years.

              Scientology has lasted longer than most, but never really recovered from Hubbard ‘dropping his body’. Miscavige’s total lack of personal charisma is probably a contributing factor.

            • scottmercer

              How long before they say they are getting “new transmissions” from “Source” on the other side, and everyone has to buy another $10,000 worth of new books?

            • http://scicrit.wordpress.com Once_Born

              I’ve often thought that new revelations would enable the CofS to dump some of the doctrines and practices that cause them grief without bringing any advantage – but have concluded that Miscavige is the only person who could order this – and he does not have the imagination to pull it off.

              If someone creative had taken over (backed up by good administrators) Scientology might have had a chance – but it now just too late to turn it around.

          • Vistaril

            Expansion and collapse has been something of a feature of Scientology. The first Scientology collapse came in the 1950s when L Ron Hubbard lost the rights to Dianetics. Of his 100,000 book sales and thousands of Dianetics auditor groups, he attracted less than 50 people to his 1952 Philadelphia Doctorate Course, during which he was arrested for looting the Witchita outfit. That was the last time L Ron Hubbard was ever in custody, and he very shortly afterwards scarpered off to England. The second Scientology collapse came after L Ron Hubbard’s Snow White operation was exposed when wog world missed its chance to put the cult away once and for all. The looting of the Missions Network certainly sparked another collapse, but, again, it was done on the orders of L Ron Hubbard as part of the fall out from the Julie Christofferson Titchbourne trial. This latest “exodus” of members started as something of a trickle around about 1999 with the establishment by Bob Minton of the Lisa McPherson Trust. Armed with a shocking story plus, thanks to Gerry Armstrong, DOX recording the truth about L Ron Hubbard, the trickle slowly gathered momentum before turning into a flood around-about 2008 when Scientology’s application of L Ron Hubbard’s PTS / SP Tech to the internet attracted the attention of Anonymous.

            I agree utterly that David Miscavige is doing a great job but, with respect, dispute the assertion that he is a master of anything. I mean, all he has to work with is Scientology tech.

        • Andrew Robertson

          There’s a thread on ESMB dated 2 Feb 2007 exploring this topic:

          http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?300-quot-Operation-Snow-White-quot-where-are-they-now

          Note that the link to Kady O’Malley’s web site, once an authoritative source on this issue, no longer works.

          Andrew

          • Vistaril

            C’mon, then, mate, spill the beans, you must know a few of these gangstas. ; )</B

            Felons 11 – Guardian’s Office officials sentenced for Snow White

            Mary Sue Hubbard

            Henning Heldt

            Duke Snider

            Gregory Willardson

            Richard Weigand

            Cindy Raymond

            Mitchell Hermann

            Gerald Bennett Wolfe

            Sharon Thomas

            Jane Kember

            Morris “Mo” Budlong

            The (rest of the) Usual Suspects – Unindicted Co-conspirators in the Snow White case

            L. Ron Hubbard

            Brian Andrus

            Mary Rezonico

            Kendrick Moxon

            Arthur Maren

            Jimmy Mulligan

            Joe Lisa

            Don
            Alverzo

            Bruce Ullman

            Carla Moxon

            Martin
            Greenberg

            Mary Heldt

            Peggy Tyson

            Herbert Parkhouse

            David Gaiman

            Paul Klopper

            Lynn McNeil

            Bruce
            Raymond

            George Pilat

            Michael Taylor

            Michael Baum

            Herman Brendel

            Charles Parselle

            I hear Kendrick Moxon has got a new job description. Here he is explaining it to Jason Beghe.

          • RMycroft
      • Mrs Libnish

        I’m in the middle of reading “Scientology Warrior” by Marty (I know, I know, get off my ass). During his earlier stint, many operatives blew due to DM’s Miscarriagemanagement and gave testimony to opposing council. How frickin funny is that?

        • Missionary Kid

          It’s not only funny, it’s good news.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          Hey, I don’t judge anyone for reading Marty’s book. It’s probably full of information we’ve never read before, except of course any of the illegal activities Marty refuses to come clean with, that is.

          • Once_Born

            And please buy it second-hand. It wouldn’t feel right to let him profit from such a distorted account of his doings.

      • Observer

        Hahaha, is John Allender lurking?

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          He’s too brain-washed to lurk. If he winds up out of favor with Miscabbage, he might turn like Marty and Mike did.

          • Observer

            I agree–a good attack dog like John would never look at entheta sites. But someone didn’t like your comment!

            • InTheNameOfXenu

              Maybe it was John Allander 😉

            • Robert Eckert

              It is really possible that Davey himself and Deborah K (? I forget the name; OSA bigwig) are the last two down-arrowers, that nobody else is even trusted enough to be allowed to read this entheta anymore.

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        I think John Allender gave me a ‘vote down’. What an honor!!!*

        *Washed-up ‘OT Walking Miracles’ like Kirstie Allley like to use the triple exclamation point. Teehee.

      • Once_Born

        You got a downvote… respect!

        Dear troll, can I have one please?

    • sugarplumfairy

      John, I think I know why they keep doing the same thing over and over and over again.. Because miscavige really believes all hubbard’s crap.. I honestly believe that he believes if he keeps doing what hubbard would do, it will work.. despite all the evidence he’s seen to prove otherwise.. WWHD?

      • Once_Born

        Miscavige has never been taught anything but Hubbard’s drivel, or experienced the real world. He persists in {applying the tech} despite clear evidence it isn’t working because:

        (1) He doesn’t know about the evidence – his minions wouldn’t dare tell him anything negative.
        (2) He wouldn’t recognise the truth if it bit him in the bum. Scientology is all he knows.
        (3) He’s living in luxury, lording it over everyone he sees. It’s working for him.

        Nicolae Ceaușescu, the genocidal dictator of Romania, allegedly told his firing squad that they ought to be grateful to him, and started to sing the Internationale before he was shot. He didn’t get it, either.

        You can imaging Miscavige being led off in handcuffs, lecturing his arresting officers about how this is impossible because he is such a big being. Unfortunately, unless they had taken an intensive course in scientology-speak they probably wouldn’t understand a word he was saying.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          You can find video of the Ceaușescus on trial before they were taken out and shot.

          Here he is getting booed by his people:

          Part 1

          Part 2

          • Once_Born

            I remember the booing.

            Long after the Romanian state had collapsed, Ceaușescu still went ahead with one of his marathon speeches before a huge crowd.At some point, a single brave man started to boo. If he had done this only weeks earlier, the secret police would have disappeared him. At this late point in the regimes decline he got away with it, and the crowd joined in.

            I wonder what the Scientology equivalent is – the first open resignation letters from senior executives, perhaps…

      • John P.

        Oddly, I think Miscavige used to drink the Kool-Aid, but once he was able to seize power at such a young age from such completely inept rivals, he figured he was smarter than all those stupid Scientologists and figured he didn’t need “the tech” to become and then remain top dog. I think he actually despises Scientologists, particularly those that work for him. And I don’t think a slavish devotion to being consistent with Hubbard’s ideas is really something he thinks of at all — witness the IAS, where Hubbard was so consistently against allowing donations that were not directly tied to “exchange” of something of known quantity (auditing hours, courses, etc.) in return. The cult would have been out of business long ago had Miscavige slavishly followed the Hubbard business model. And as Tony’s article yesterday about the change of the definition of a “floating needle” in auditing showed, he was not beholden to one of the most sacred concepts in auditing when he figured he could make more money by changing it.

        • sugarplumfairy

          I wasn’t really thinking about hubbard’s scientology tech.. I was thinking bigger.. About hubbard’s life code.. The way he lived his life.. scientology was only a part of it.. I think miscavige models himself after the kind of human being hubbard was.. Say anything, do anything, take anything, screw anybody.. Nothing and nobody else matters except the big being.. And I think he believes that as long as he does that, he’s nearly invincible..

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Yup. A complete egoist. Other people do not exist, except to be exploited.

        • Isaac Clarke

          Ironically, Miscavige is the biggest squirrel, far more “squirrely” than Rathbun. Or, I should say, the best squirrel, since he is destroying the evil cult. Thanks, Davey!

      • KJP in Portland

        D. Miscarriage doesn’t have one critical-thought cell in his entire body. All of you are enlightening me about his ‘depth of Earthly’ knowledge, lol!

  • Observer

    The only surprise is that they’re not still using Technique 88 in reference to those smear sites.

    Regarding those sites, I would expect nothing more from a “church” that claims this man (or Marcabian?) as its “ecclesiastical” leader.

    • Mark

      Hiss!

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        Holy Shit, Observer. Misscabbage looks like an extra from 1984’s Sci-Fi Mini-Series ‘V’. Hahaha.

        • Mark

          Or he’s about to consort with his evil shape-shifting people-eating alien lizard pals in the British royal family (according to David Icke, that is).

          • Captain Howdy

            If you want some major lulz, google “David Icke forum scientology” and get ready to read the 12ft shape shifting reptilian fanboys make fun of the immortal super powered Thetans. it’s a hoot.

        • Observer

          He’s a snake in the grass. The clam aid-addled flock defends him while he J&Ds them behind their backs and robs them blind.

          • Studious Judious

            According to “Admissions” L. Ron was afraid of snakes.

            • Observer

              Yep, he was afraid they were in his bed. He was also afraid of wind. Some fearless leader!

        • Captain Howdy

          When the “V” 2009 series was on there was speculation in the Anon community that the show’s writers were taking some inspiration from scientology due to things like their use of “R6” as a chemical implant the Visitors use to track humans.

          http://v.wikia.com/wiki/R6

          • Observer

            And Hubbard did say the Marcabians were reptilian.

    • Sherbet

      Nice Armani scales, DM.

    • Maureen49

      The turd pope has evil, unsmiling eyes, he gives me the shivers!

      • Missionary Kid

        Turd Pope. That’s going into my collection of DM’s nicknames.

        • Maureen49

          I’m honored, thanks.

          • Missionary Kid

            It’s really not that much of an honor, because the criteria is just my twisted sense of humor.

            • Maureen49

              Could not be any more twisted than mine, I guarantee!

  • Simon

    Sadly, whoisdavidmiscavige.com has already been bought a while ago. Forward planning by the Sciloons.

    • Missionary Kid

      I hope someone has purchased davidmiscavageisadouche or davidmiscavageisaliar or whoisdm or whereisshelly

    • Jennifearz

      whoisdavidmiscavige.net is available 😉

  • Vistaril

    . . . [quoting Paul Haggis from the Hollywood Reporter site] . . . So all I could have said at the time was that, whether it was true Leah had resigned, she had always been a class act and a lovely human being
    — but that wasn’t news. Millions of people know that; her character shines through everything she does.

    Same with you, dude. Nice one.

  • iHateDuplicity

    This open letter from Paul is awesome and exactly what is needed to keep this story alive and moving in the major media, also forcing the Cof$ to continue issuing foot bullet after foot bullet. They literally have no clue how to handle public relations properly, and blatantly refuse to follow one of the most important pieces of PR tech written by LRH: NEVER USE LIES IN PR. For some reason, they just cannot or will not stop lying. And Karen Pouw, or whoever is issuing press releases under that name, will continue to screw over the Church’s image again and again and again. I wish there was more I could do personally to help it along, but honestly Cof$ seems to be doing just fine tanking themselves.

    • Missionary Kid

      $cion PR = Footbullets

    • Once_Born

      Hubbard told people not to lie? To be fair, there is no evidence that he habitually followed *that* advice himself.

      • 0tessa

        He told them to leave the lying with him.

  • LaLa104

    I just wanna hug Leah till she screams UNCLE.. She is truly a Class Act as well as Paul Haggis. Her care and concern for Mr. Haggis was just beautiful. She must of been truly harassed by them when they found out about her association with Paul. Me thinks that Leah is not going to give in to the bullying of the cult. Her integrity shines through and through. What an Amazing woman she is. I loved her in her sitcoms before this but now I have the upmost respect for her as a person.

  • KNMF

    Here is a cult that talks ad nauseam about “spirituality.” It is only talk. There is nothing spiritual about smear tactics and lawsuits. By design, there is no love in scientology. “Spirituality” is just a word that is a worm on a hook.

  • Sherbet

    Tony, I don’t know how you can work around this, but when I see a headline that says “Scientology Admits Connection to Slimy Anonymous Attack Sites…” I think “Capital A” Anonymous refers to the gutsy people who call themselves Anonymous. In any context, of course, scientology hates Anonymous. Get out the thesaurus. Is there any other way of wording this when you refer to “small a” anonymous secret church machinations? Or am I being hair-splittingly picky?

    • Spackle Motion

      I saw the same contradiction, but it is a headline/title which should have capital letters for each word unless it is a trademarked word or preposition. I’m sure the English majors here can point to the exact rule but the word “Anonymous” is not trademarked with a lower case and it is not a preposition.

      • John P.

        Tony’s usage is correct, as is your comment.

        Headlines and titles are a special case of text. In a headline, you capitalize the first word and every word thereafter except for small “particles” (the, a, an, to, by, etc). The only time you override this is when you have a proper name that intentionally uses the letter in lower case form, such as eBay. Perhaps the classic example of a phrase made ambiguous by capitalization in a headline that existed before 1990s trendy corporate names would be the completely different word meaning for “polish” and “Polish.” People would understand that “Shoe Polish” capitalized in a headline is not likely to be an ungrammatical way to refer to footwear worn by people from Poland.

        The ambiguity is usually accepted in a headline, as long as usage in the article text is clear. In the text of the post, Tony does not capitalize “Anonymous” incorrectly, leading one to infer that it is used as an adjective, not as the name of the group.

        • Sherbet

          I know Tony was using the word and its capitalization correctly. I was suggesting a different word or phrase might be substituted for the word “Anonymous.”

          • Captain Howdy

            Hey, don’t try to disrupt my English edumacation.

            .

  • Gerard Plourde

    “Amazingly, Pouw not only admitted that church is supplying information to these attack sites, but that it had never hidden that fact: “The church has never hidden the fact it supplied information for the websites,” she said to THR.”

    Immediately after making the statement essentially confirming the existence of “Fair Game” she returned to “The Hole” to continue her voluntary extended “religious retreat”.

    • Interested

      Loooooverly holiday to find herself! Lol

  • Marc Headley

    So, we know the host the sites. And now they provide the info for the sites. The info is from ex-members “confidential files.” What else is there? These are scientology websites. Plain and simple. Like anybody ever thought they were anything else.

    Scientology – getting it wrong since forever!

    • KNMF

      I’d venture to say that the cult of Scientology are the real “cyber-terrorists.”

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      Marc, I know it’s painful to have deeply confidential information plastered on these smear sites. To be honest, who the hell visits these preposterous sites anyhow? Has there been any study on how many ‘hits’ these sites get? The numbers must be ridiculously low.They are so generic and bumbling stupid. This is for Miscavige’s sick entertainment. Other than his midget himself, maybe a handful of OSA people actully read any dribble that’s on it.

      • ThetaBara

        Even if people click the link, it is painfully obvious smears and BS. I can’t imagine those sites convince anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

        • RMycroft

          But they can tell David Miscavige that they struck a blow against their enemies–and maybe Davie won’t strike them a blow…

      • Marc Headley

        They used to have all sorts of stuff up on those smear sites. Mysteriously the content has been getting real thin lately and a few items have disappeared. Someone told me that the pictures of my current house were no longer up. Who knows?

        I have also had people tell me that they saw one of those sites and ended up buying a BFG book. So I figured the scilons were going out of their way to sell books for me since they have been doing so consistently since 2009. I have outsold Dianetics every week since my book came out in 2009 and I am not doing any promotion, so it must be them!

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          Thanks for that information Mark. I’m happy to hear that the cult’s puny attempts at smearing is in fact making people curious to find out what Scientology is really about.

          Congratulations on outselling Dianetics. The sales figure of Dianetics were always inflated. When I was a staff member at a class IV org, the org forced to buy 1000’s of Book One to artificially inflate the numbers to make the NY Times Best Seller list. This was done in the late 80’s/early 90’s when I was involved. Most laid to rot in an alleyway that was infested with rats. This alley was colloquially named ‘Rat Alley’. I used this alley to escape ‘all hands’ duties after hours. It was’t enough to work for nothing, but to stay late after hours to do more work gratis was out of the question. I Christened the alley the ‘Road To Total Freedom’.

          • John P.

            Almost as dismal an Alley as Kirstie.

            • Observer

              POW! Or should I say POUW!

            • Andrew Robertson

              The most important question to ask about Karin Pouw is not why she is a mendacious sniveling apologist for a convicted criminal organization intent on world domination, but how to pronounce her surname.

              So, here is the answer:

              http://www.forvo.com/word/pouw/

              Click on the blue arrow adjacent to ‘(Male from Netherlands)’.

              Andrew

          • Captain Howdy

            Poor rats. I hope they didn’t contract any diseases mulching on Hubbard’s pulp.

            • InTheNameOfXenu

              It gave those Norwegian rats a severe case of hemorrhoids.

            • Captain Howdy

              Baah, Norwegian Rats just chew their rhoids right off. They’re not theetie weetie like those Swedish Rats.

        • aquaclara

          Congratulations, Marc.
          Oh, and Davey, if you’re looking at these stats, wondering what happened, I can tell you that we told Big Pharma to keep the check this time. These are real sales. For 5 years.

    • AnyOldName1

      I thought some Anons uncovered that some of domain names were registered to a CoS outfit or address? Have to check, but Death Hamster came up with some good stuff a couple weeks ago.

      • SopranoAscends

        I’m no ‘puter wizz, but I understand there are those for whom some wee mischief is entertaining. Not to advocate things such as DDoS, but wondering why such rubbish goes unmolested?

        • RMycroft

          Legality aside, it’s better to leave it, and let them show the world what they’re really like.

          • SopranoAscends

            Yes. Good point. Thx.

          • Once_Born

            Some years ago there was a French neo-fashist party whose nastier racist ranting caused such offence that it was curbed by law.

            After the new law came into effect, that parties share of the vote actually went up – because they now sounded so much more reasonable.

            It is, indeed, better to let such people rant and, “show the word what they’re really like”.

      • RMycroft

        They have a whole bunch in the name of senior staff that are directly registered to CSI or RTC.
        http://umbraxenu.wiki-site.com/index.php/Scientology_sites

        Some of David and Shelly Miscavige’s domains are cloaked.
        http://umbraxenu.wiki-site.com/index.php/Scientology_front_group_sites

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Words are just words. I can struggle to make it much past the first few lines anyway…
      “Bitter Apostate… blah blah blah”
      The like to hide behind words, terms such as “Fixed Donations” because they do not charge for services!?!
      Actions speak louder than words. Claire’s and your actions speak volumes as to the kind of caring people you are and just makes them look like children.

  • ElDroneHubbub

    Recognizing that the Co$ basically blackmailed the U.S. government into granting it tax-exempt status, surely there comes a point at which the feds become interested in what the “church” is doing – doesn’t there?

    It seems so odd to me that once you receive your status nobody ever looks at you again, no matter how obvious it becomes that you are anything but a legitimate “religion.”

    I think of the scrutiny received by various (no, not just Tea Party-connected) groups that applied for tax-exempt status under 501(c)4 rules recently and wonder how it can be that, once granted status, it seemingly can never be taken away.

    • Gerard Plourde

      I don’t know if the IRS has sufficient staff to go proactively looking for violators. At this point I think they are limited to acting on tips from the public.

      • ElDroneHubbub

        You are certainly right on that score. I wonder what it would take in the way of “tips” for them to become interested?

        I think this is probably just dreaming, but I am still amazed that the “church” has been allowed to carry on this way.

        • Gerard Plourde

          The interest may ramp up as the investigation into Narconon continues. I wouldn’t be surprised if related shenanigans in W.I.S.E. and A.B.L.E. don’t get uncovered as well. It could make for a very interesting and complex case.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      You could always check with one of the top men in the U.S. who deal with these tax exempt charities and excempt issues. OH wait, he’s the Same guy who was smack in the center of the IRS special deal, Fred Goldberg, Jr. Gee, think that might be a bit of a problem? Thanks to the Scientology celebs and whales, Miscavige can always buy himself all the “justice protection” he needs, and that includes the top Constitutional Attorneys, Tax Attorneys, name a flavor, he can buy and has always bought his way out (allegedly of course).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_T._Goldberg,_Jr.

      http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_lawyers_%28all%29

  • Aslansown

    Yesterday someone mentioned whoistommydavis.com and .net and .org were taken. Interestingly, when I did a “whois” search on the first two, they don’t even bother to hide that they’re registered to “CSI”. The third one goes even further. it not only says CSI but gives the address, phone number, etc.:

    Registrant Organization:CSI
    Registrant Street1:6331 Hollywood Blvd
    Registrant Street2:
    Registrant Street3:
    Registrant City:Los Angeles
    Registrant State/Province:California
    Registrant Postal Code:90028
    Registrant Country:US
    Registrant Phone:+1.3239603500
    Registrant Email:domains@scientology.net

    It was created on Created On:31-Mar-2011

    All three are just parked – they don’t have any info on them.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      Here’s the traffic on whoismartyrathbun.com, from Alexia.com:

      Global Rank

      3,480,732 up 11,624,285 over the past three months.

      Rank in United States
      507,512
      http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/whoismartyrathbun.com#trafficstats
      This is from 2 weeks ago, from celebitchy(dot)com

      Radar figured out that Scientology hacks are going to do what they always do – launch a very stupid website treating Leah like a criminal, just like they’ve done with just about every other high-profile person who’s left the cult. For more examples of this idiotic practice see the Scientology-run website WhoisPaulHaggis, against Academy Award Winning director Paul Haggis. Also see WhoisJasonBeghe, another Scientology website against character actor Jason Beghe, who spoke out against the abuses in the cult.

      The Scientology “WhoIs” websites are so lame and predictable that they seem like parodies of attack sites. They dig up arrest records where possible and feature sensationalized, poorly written versions of the person’s criminal records. Where no arrest records are found, they paint the defector as a liar, child abuser or worse. They sites are written in Scientology-speak and are somewhat incomprehensible. I went through the Village Voice’s list of the top 25 people who threaten Scientology and there were those “WhoIs” websites for almost every former Scientologist on the list who had publicly denounced the cult.

      http://www.celebitchy.com/310099/scientology_plans_to_target_leah_remini_with_attack_website/

      81 comments. People are talking, and the talk ain’t good as far as Scientology is concerned.

      • Robert Eckert

        This is particularly priceless:

        Which search keywords send traffic to this site?
        Keyword Percent of Search Traffic
        1. marty rathbun 67.61%
        2. marty rtahbun 4.40%
        3. marty rathubn 4.20%
        4. marty rathborn 3.76%
        5. marty rathunb 2.52%

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          If you transpose a search term or misspell it by one letter, Google will give you the properly spelled version of what you’re looking for.

          I found this, however, most revealing:

          What sites link to whoismartyrathbun.com?

          Total Sites Linking In
          27

          Site
          Global Rank
          Page

          1. wn.com 4,031 wn.com/Church_of_Scientology

          2. yasni.com 9,918 yasni.com/marty rathbun/check people?

          3. celebitchy.com 11,655 celebitchy.com/310099/scientology_plan…

          4. domainprcheck.com 21,171 domainprcheck.com/2012/08/alexa-top-li…

          5. the-globe.com 109,715 the-globe.com/the_worlds_most_visited_…

          The 1st site is, unsurprisingly enough, the COS website.

          Or, as they say in Vegas, “No shit, Sherlock.”

          • Robert Eckert

            I was just amused that so many of the people going there can’t type.

            • Ciru

              That’s Study Tech for you.

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              15% is a rather large number, or should it be called, “the rthabun number”?

              Yeah, you can tell that people are excited or careless or some combination of both, I would think.

    • RMycroft

      It’s the same with whoisjessicafeshbach and whoiskarinpouw. I haven’t tried whoistommydavis.xxx yet.

      • RMycroft

        Apparently they registered domains for all the inner core March 2011.

        http://runelocus.tastereports.com/archives.html?type=added&registrar_id=1151&stat_date=2011-03-30&start=32700

        For some reason that link is getting mangled.

        • Once_Born

          So, if a lucky Scientologist (lets call him Bert Tuttle) is promoted, it’s likely that the domain name ‘whoisburtuttle’ is purchased by the CofS first, just in case.

          Can you search recently registered domains for the names of Scientologists who may be ‘rising’ in the organisation (or for domains beginning ‘whois’)?

          If you can, it might be possible to know who is going to be promoted to {executive status} *before* it was announced by the CofS, and get them running around in circles looking for a leak.

          • RMycroft

            I was lucky enough to know the dates of some of the domains that they’d registered, so checking for what similar domains they registered on those dates was easy.

            Picking out a single domain, on a random date, which might be anonymous registration and no way to tell if it’s them … difficult!

    • noseinabk

      I was checking to see if these sites came up on name searches and came across rottenrat.com. Marty gets some extra special attention from someone.

  • Robert Eckert

    Tony, has anybody actually seen Karin this year, or heard her voice on the phone, or is she strictly an e-mail address nowadays?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    I wonder if any confidential audit material from PC folders has been supplied to these websites. (probably). If so, this admission by the church may have ramifications for Laura D’s lawsuit, and for any future lawsuit against the church. I hope that someone defamed by one of these sites does sue, and then asks for all emails, transmittals, downloads and the like between the church and the website master/website developer. I also hope that someone, using ICANN’s procedures, requests all domain name registration information from the defamatory websites.

    Pouw’s admission is so much against the church’s interest, I have to wonder if she is about to defect or if Miscavige is going off the rails.

  • ThetaBara

    It’s about time for more footbullets!
    I can only take so many dead people at one go. :-/

    • Sidney18511

      Foot bullets? They don’t use foot bullets anymore. They are actualy using WMD to blow their entire LEGS off.

      • Missionary Kid

        They’re kind of like the knight in Monty Python’s Holy Grail.

        • Observer

          “Your arm’s off.”
          “No it isn’t!”

        • Sidney18511

          Oh yeah! And just like the knight, the COS will continue to tell itself…”it’s only a flesh wound” as they are hopping on their stumps. Hey….then they will ALL look like DM!

      • Captain Howdy

        They’re definitely up to land mines at this point.

      • Isaac Clarke

        I recommend the pulse rifle, ripper, or line gun.

  • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

    A very, very interesting article just got posted at the Daily Mail in which they claim that Leah will supposedly be writing a memoir about Scientology:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2382051/Leah-Remini-pen-memoir-detailing-Scientology-experiences.html.

    Oddly enough, Daily Mail quotes as its source a US Magazine article that is two days old and says no such thing nor has US Magazine any such article. So for now I’ll just assume Daily Mail is making things up…

    • Nevermore

      That’s the safest course to take with the Daily Fail!

    • Robert Eckert

      Reminds me of the recent silly misunderstanding by “Enty” that Tony Ortega is going to write a book with Leah (Tony is of course writing a book, but not with Leah).

    • Sidney18511

      Leah’s stepmother has become a member of and is contributing ESMB. She is a wonderful woman and is very close to Leah. Herr name is Diana Fiore (sp). She recently posted that Leah is thinking of writing a book, but that would happen in the future.
      Someone set up a welcoming thread to the Remini Family, Diana found it and showed it to Leah who was very very touched by all the support and love.

  • screwsci

    Good Day Sacramento did a live segment yesterday morning with a tour of the newly opened Sacramento Org (Mayor Kevin Johnson was the keynote speaker at the grand opening ceremony). It just made me want to vomit. http://gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com/video/9145930-inside-the-scientology-center/

    • noseinabk

      Wow! Its like a commercial for cos. In the first segment she mentions that cos may help with addiction and you dont need to become a scientologest to do it.

      2nd segment is not much better.

      http://gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com/video/9146212-inside-the-scientology-center/

    • Captain Howdy

      LoL.. Methramento..pffft.

    • i-Betty

      ARGH! Don’t these REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE read the internet??!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Disgusting, yes. Do bear in mind that when they opened the Ideal Org up in Portland, not ONE elected official from the City, County or State attended. The best they could get was the City Manager (a hired position) from a small bedroom community in an adjoining county.

      California is still in the thrall of Scientology and their blandishments. But the worm is turning.

  • Angela Schaffner

    Oh poor Karen. She’s as cluess as Tom Cruise’s sister was when he hired her to replace his uber-publicist, Pat Kingsly. Karen is an idiot and the church is crumbling. And now I hear that Leah is writing a tell-all about her time in the “church.” She just may be the one (and most surprising person) to bring down the cult. The end is near and I am jubilant!!

  • 10oriocookies

    I am proud of my smear site even though putting a website is a petty act done by cowards. Yes OSA, I am calling you all cowards. Stand in the light for a minute, its warm and freeing.

    • Once_Born

      If you can judged by who your enemies are, you should be a proud man.

    • Bella Legosi

      Pictures are worth a thousand words…….

    • aquaclara

      I hope the damn cult of Scientology that preys on both victims and quite nice people equally sees how much rejoicing there is here “on the fringes of the internet.” Rejoicing because you are out of their grip, and because they can’t get away with their sh*t any more. In honor of Krusty, I was trying to watch my language. But after a heartbreaking Narconon death to acknowledge and respect in Tony’s first posting, I am done with nice. So here it goes.

      (Bear with me while I quote somebody terrific who said this first, no doubt inspired by the lovely combination of a creamy frosting center surrounded by chocolate cookies):

      F*ck the cult. F*ck scientology.

      And ditto to David Miscavige, who has not noticed that he is losing this battle.

      Glad you’re smiling, Eric. Thank you for kicking them in the ass.

  • i-Betty

    Some church, indeed.

  • Sidney18511

    While the COS is busy loading up their WMD using their members donations, I wish that many more exes surround Leah with support. I would love to see Paul, Leah, Jason and mike get together maybe with Lawerance wright on 60 minutes and have a little chit-chat about scumology.

    • Captain Howdy

      Charlie Rose would be good for a round table.

      • Sidney18511

        He would be great cap’n. But with all the crazy coming to light now EVEN FAUX NEWS couldn’t fcuk it up, and as far as I’m concerned anything that Murdoch touches is absolutly worthless.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          They have Our Lawyer of the Lopsided Mouth, Greta, who, AFAIK, is still into Scientology. Like Leah, she doesn’t talk about it much, but you can bet she’s smart enough to realize that no news about Leah on Fox is good news, for her own sake, if not the cult as well.

          Just checked: Yep, Fox only did a repost of the People article, not surprising.

          • Sidney18511

            That’s right Chut…I forgot about the Greta! There used to be someone on SNL that did a KICK ASS imatation of her. Did you ever see it?

        • Bella Legosi

          Murdoch is a class A Bastard!

          “All business men are son’s of bitches.”- JFK as told to him by his father Joe P. Kennedy, who is without a doubt the model of Class A Bastards. Why isn’t he featured in those “Gangster” profile shows that I LOVE???? MY GOD I don’t know whether to admire Joe or hate him! Makes me wonder if his duplicitous nature was picked up by his sons……..cuz I still hold out hope that JFK was a better human than his father, but the apple never falls far from the tree. No wonder the Kennedy’s are cursed!

  • SandiCorrena

    These are amazing days!

  • SandiCorrena

    TV Guide just posted church reply

  • CoolHand

    I keep liking Paul Haggis more and more.

  • Sidney18511

    Blackrob runs threads on WWP and ESMB where he reposts scilons talking to each other in their clam groups on facebook. Disconnecttion alerts are constant, and the conversations they have while drinking their koolaid is wicked crazy.
    He is doing wonderful work. 1 man- 100 sock puppets deep in sheeple land posted for all to see

    • Sidney18511

      He also said that Leah is going to speak out regarding her situation by the end of this week.

  • Mrs Libnish

    A Twofer today!! Bonus!

    Haggis is a man among men and should be applauded.

    • NoName

      Threefer….. Placido Domingo Jr. just got declared according to Mike Rinder’s blog.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yeah,the “unfriend” Confront and Shatter has begun.

        THEY ARE SO STUPID!!!

  • Captain Howdy

    ….

    • ze moo

      Two toned loafers should be shot.

  • BosonStark

    Haggis, a “tenuous connection” with Scientology says the cult website on Haggis. For Xenu’s sake he was in it for decades and his kids were in clam school. That’s not tenuous — that’s up to your neck in this crap.

    This is really getting amusing as more scilebrities emerge. They can all look forward to crazycult erecting websites on them. If they’re trying to push Leah Remini to speaking out further, they’re doing a great job of it.

    • tetloj

      Unless it’s their way of acknowledging that celebrity Scientology is not the real thing so as a celebrity he cannot possibly know about the real Scientology (and we know what that is…..)

  • Mark

    Unless she ends up in the Hole-Which-Does-Not-Exist or going to live next door to Tommy Davis, Ms. Pouw might be reassigned to that dire $cientology ‘Fundamentals of Public Relations’ course:

  • Marta

    These two, Haggis and Remini, are class acts. Kirstie Alley, eat your heart out.

    • Captain Howdy

      Even an ole curmudgeon like me found the Paul Haggis letter very moving.

      Stand up guy all the way FTW!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Awww curmudgeon is what Mr. Nuts is aspiring to be.
        I tried to tell him he needs to wait another decade, but he is resolute in his stance to be “Andy Rooney”!

    • Robert Eckert

      Hail to thee, Haggis, Mighty Fuehrer of the Sausage People!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWpGxLkWNM

  • MissCandle

    In the same response where the S-Lying-Tology spokesperson admits to supplying info for the “Who Is …” websites, the person then almost immediately states that they respect the privacy of their parishioners. Oh yeah, once you have a “Who Is …” websited devoted to you, you are no longer a parishioner.

    • Missionary Kid

      Good point.

  • Bella Legosi

    Holy crap Tony!! 5 posts and countless comments?!?!?! And I don’t get another day off for 4 more days!!!! Your blog is quickly becoming the reason I have no social life!!!! lol Well, Supernatural, started me on the path to hermitage, but that wont be on till Oct!!! Good thing I have the night shift and a dental appointment this afternoon! I am seriously gonna have to play catch up!

    • Captain Howdy

      How’s the job?

      • Bella Legosi

        It’s is going wonderfully! I have been here about 2 weeks and everyone loves me! My manager is trusting me to train a new employee tomorrow morning! >D So, needless to say, Bella ROCKS! I have been getting a lot of compliments from tenets who are not my clients and they have spoken to the owners/management about me! My schedule is still kinda wacky but that will be changing this week! So, all in all I think I have found a place I love to work and the people love that I work here! Also, one of my clients used to be a psychiatric nurse for 30 years. I talked to her a little about L Ron and $cientology……she was thankful that I went down to the Org opening to protest them. I told her a little of what $cientology has become since the 70’s and 80’s and what little I did tell her absolutely disgusted her. She said that she knew of friends who got into that cult back in the 60’s and 70’s, but it was nothing like what I was telling her.

        • Robert Eckert

          “needless to say, Bella ROCKS!” Completely needless!

          • Bella Legosi

            😛
            I had a good day today!

        • Captain Howdy

          Good for you Bella, cuz you do ROCK!

          http://youtu.be/s8QdNg0VZeM

          • Bella Legosi

            Oh Captain……:D I do love you, but…..I really don’t see the fascination with this form of music people call punk! I said it *blushes* call me a musical tard and dunk me in the drink 😛 But, I do appreciate the link! I never turn down a linky link!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Whoo hoo! I miss you!

          • Bella Legosi

            Awwww 😀

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          And that’s the reality of why grassroots orgs work.

          • Bella Legosi

            Goood point!

        • Bella Legosi

          Also, the man who my manager and I found dead on my first day had his service. I talked to his son and daughter in-laws. Not only was this man reaching 90 years old, he was an Army Paratrooper during WWII, fought in France/Belgium/Germany, fought in the Battle of the Bulge!!!, and was captured during that battle and was a POW. When he retired he was chariman of the board of Southern Pacific Railroad and director of The American Railroad Association. You have NO idea just how fucking disappointed that he and I never got to shoot the shit!!!! >( I keep his obit in my wallet.

    • Observer

      Good luck with that!

      • Bella Legosi

        It’s gonna take some time, but I do read fast! I don’t have wifi availability where I am staying at :(

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Skim and hope.

  • Bella Legosi

    😀

    Does AGP still own the registered kendrick moxon.com???? I wuv the Pope. No better person to find when first researching this despicable organization……….oh I mean CULT mafia!

  • bill_b

    Sounds like Karin Pouw has been studying Tommy Davis’ “How to Piss Off a Midget” lesson plan.

  • sugarplumfairy

    They must be planning to blame it on Lynch, now that he’s not here to deny it..

  • KJP in Portland

    Haggis…isn’t that some nasty Scottish dish made out of the stomach lining of sheep? :p

    • KJP in Portland

      My apologies…I was trying to make a funny. All good blessings to Mr. Haggis!

      • SP ‘Onage

        I was raised on Haggis and yes, most people can’t stomach it (pun intended) so I understand your joke. I knew you didn’t mean any ill will toward Paul Haggis. 😉

        • KJP in Portland

          I’m Scot ancestry and I love to gross people out with haggis. Sorry to irk anyone. I was on a funny bone today. But, I also pray that by 2020, all Scientology, Inc. is dead, gone, buried.

          • ze moo

            That’s ok, Scottish cuisine may include sheep stomach and thistle pie, but they make up for it in the beer and whiskey department.

            • SP ‘Onage

              And their glorious temper and brave hearts, especially after some mugs of ale. 😀

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              Actually, using organ meats in various combinations isn’t that unusual around the world. One theory is that the practice arose of cooking such stuff next to the carcass after they’ve been removed and mixed with the other ingredients, because organ meats can go bad much quicker than the meat on the carcass, and you can’t make jerky or pemmican like you can with meat to preserve them.

              A cousin of mine traced out family back to 14th Century Scotland, there are many more of us in the world than there are in Scotland.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      There’s Haggis, and then there’s Haggis. I understand both are nourishing, both have their fan base, and both have their detractors.

  • sizzle8

    Thank you, thank you David Miscavige!
    Your are the iceberg that the SS Scientology plowed into.

  • KJP in Portland

    I hope that by 2017, Scatology will lose their tax-exemption and Mr. Cabbage will be serving LIFE in Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas.

  • baddog5623

    No Tommy Davis like PR lackeys, No Luanne Lee, where are the
    OSA Trolls on the Hollywood Reporter site?

  • Rob C.

    I used to work for the Church’s PR bureau in the bad old Guardian Office days… whatever happened to ‘Never use lies in PR’ and ‘Maintain friendly relations’ ? There is so much alter-is in the DM brand that it doesn’t even resemble the church of the 70’s and 80’s. It’s become a text-book of what not to do in the world of PR.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Hahahahahaha! They can’t even remember their own lies. Scientology Inc. is kicking its own ass! lmao

  • Nick Overmyer

    Holy F*cking Hell, y’all. Go check out the boards on that Hollywood Reporter article site if you haven’t yet. It’s a fullblown OSA trollfest in there right now!

    • Nick Overmyer

      There is seriously one guy in there using about thirty user names to cloud up the comments section…quite hilarious.

      • Sherbet

        And here’s yet another Guest.

        • Observer

          I know what you’re going to be dreaming about tonight!

        • Nick Overmyer

          OMG do you think it followed me back over here!?!?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Its a body thetan. Pick up the cans…quick!

            • Nick Overmyer

              but I’ve had like 4 Red Bulls today, am I even sessionable!?

          • Sherbet

            Ew, get rid of it!

    • Nick Overmyer

      I just can’t imagine going to all the trouble to post comments under, like, thirty different screen names. seems like such an inefficient and time consuming way to scrap it out.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Inefficient is Scientologys Modus Operandi

      • aquaclara

        Nope, I can’t imagine it, either. But then it is Wednesday and we know what that brings….STATS ARE DUE TOMORROW. Yeah….

      • Observer

        Inefficient and time consuming: that’s Scientology “tech” to a T.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        And all for what? That’s what is so baffling. These people have truly lost it.

        • Robert Eckert

          For the illusory appearance that there are thirty different people who agree, I guess.

    • Sherbet

      The place was lousy with Guests answering Guests complaining about Guests. I didn’t dare up arrow anyone, because I was afraid it was the wrong Guest.

      • Captain Howdy

        It’s so easy to tell who the scilons are over there. They only have guest votes like Lark Smith pointed out.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        What’s weird is that earlier today the whole thing was smothered in entheta,with nary a down vote in site. Then all hell broke loose. But still… no down votes. Just a sea of anonymous “guest” up votes for the OSA sock puppets.

  • Ruby

    With responses like that from the church, they only make themselves look even more ignorant! It truly amazes me. They have an uncontrollable compulsion to react, and while they think they are acting all tough and smart, they look like pathetic idiots. It is not pretty. But it sure is entertaining!

  • Tony DePhillips

    These guys are truly disturbed.

  • Gerard Plourde

    “the church has really outdone itself with a response that is beyond the pale.”

    Tony’s not exaggerating. This paragraph is breathtaking in its ability to succinctly summarize Scientology craziness.

    “Mr. Haggis has chosen to align himself with a small posse of lunatics with arrest records, who have acknowledged in depositions to being secretly on the payroll of tabloids and who have admitted on national television to outright lying. As for Paul Haggis’ real story, see http://www.freedommag.org/special-reports/new-yorker/video-profile-the-many-personas-of-paul-haggis.html.”

    Re the Scientology statement I can only say, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and erase all doubt.”

    • RMycroft

      These days, merely being thought of as fools would be a victory for Scientology.

  • ze moo

    “Mr. Haggis has chosen to align himself with a small posse of lunatics”, wouldn’t “posse of lunatics’ be a great name for a rock band?

    Haggis and Remini turning the screws on Miscavige? Get me a front row seat with lots of popcorn, this is going to be fun. In the previous story, many of us thought that the CO$ would lay low and let the sharknado pass the Leah Remini story, unless Dave Miscavige got his napoleon complex up and interfered. Well, we know who wrote the above release.

    • Sherbet

      “Karin” must be very proud of that phrase, since it’s been hauled out and used before. Quick, everyone, if you want to know the truth about this “posse of lunatics,” head straight for Freedom magazine. (Can I use the words “truth” and “Freedom magazine” in the same sentence without having the earth spin out of control?)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So THAT’S what all the enturbulation was about earlier today. STOP USING THE WORDS “TRUTH” and “FREEDOM MAGAZINE” IN THE SAME SENTENCE!

    • SP ‘Onage

      I am upset they don’t call us “Merchants of Chaos” anymore. What’s up with that?

    • pronoia

      Don’t forget that said posse also lives on the fringes of the Internet.

  • Papa Xenu

    Just what I would expect from the ‘most ethical people on the planet’. Don’t most religions/churches engage in smear campaigns & create attack website targeting ex-members? I hear the Mormon’s are ruthless with their revenge websites & you don’t want to know what the Baptist print in their church bulletins about members that leave. Haggis, Remini, Rinder, Beghe & Rathbun should consider themselves fortunate they weren’t on the receiving end of a Buddhist attack website or smear campaign, those guys go for the throat.

    • Sherbet

      Laughing out loud here, Papa.

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        The Zen Buddhists stop at nothing. If you do nothing, they’ll stop.

        • Sherbet

          Laughing again. Yet I feel so…serene.

  • BosonStark

    The “Churches” have public display areas to “answer all questions” except, “Where’s Shelly?” and “Who is Xenu the Evil Galactic Overlord?”

    How the hell is Haggis plugging his move? He didn’t even mention it. Scientology’s career as a scam is the one going down the drain.

  • Captain Howdy

    The only other “church” I can think of that stoops to calling people names is the Westboro Baptist Church.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Where did the word “Heretic” come from

      Oh shit…nevermind…..
      Lets get back to bashing Scientology.
      We need to stick to our core competency!!!!

    • pronoia

      I never thought I would find myself giving the WBC any credit for anything but at least they don’t hide behind invisible sock puppets when they have something to say.

  • Bob

    Wow, Karin Pouw or the proxy Karin Pouw has done it again. She is not a spokes person. She is a spokes robot.
    The lie that Paul was not active is justified by the fact he was not on course all the time but he was very active with donations, advice, some auditing etc. scientologists know how to redefine any word so that they can justify lying and thinking it is the truth.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Oh but…he sure was considered a scientologist and an asset when he won the Oscar. They’re just pissed off they can’t ride on his coattail anymore.

      The only other person who had ever won an Oscar while in Scientology was Bert Salzman for the short Angel and Big Joe in 1975.

      • Sherbet

        It would be interesting to get our hands on a copy of “Celebrity” from the time of Haggis’s Oscar win to see if he got raves from the “church.”

    • KJP in Portland

      Karen Pee-eww!

  • music8r

    I noticed http://www.whoisdavidmiscavige.com is under maintenance.

  • Brainslugged

    That’s an awesome statement from the cult. I’d like to think of them all giggling as they constructed it: “ooh, ooh, don’t forget to include the word ‘disingenuous’ and the phrase ‘posse of lunatics'”. Unfortunately I suspect it wasn’t created with such self-awareness. It’d be comedic if it wasn’t such a menacing organization.

  • Watergate

    It’s no longer necessary to argue that the Church of Scientology has a brutal, cultish, paranoid, insane culture. Its own official communiques make those attributes crystal clear to anyone who reads them.

  • sizzle8

    All you have to do to convince someone not to get involved with Scientology is show them the above communique.

  • pronoia

    What kind of “church” writes letters like that???? What kind of spokesperson uses phrases like “a small posse of lunatics” repeatedly, not just once but repeatedly? It’s too bad the HR didn’t print this right under Haggis’ letter which is kind and sensitive, grateful, generous and yes, also humble.

    • Ruby

      totally agree with that!!

    • pronoia

      Also who are they attempting to tar and feather with the statement that someone is being paid by tabloids.

    • Brainslugged

      Ironically the small posse of lunatics all rose to very high levels over a period of decades in the “church”. That’s some real impressive “Tech” that LRH came up with.

    • dbloch7986

      It’s a logical fallacy called “Argument Ad Nauseam”. The more you repeat something the truer it becomes.

      It’s also “Argument by fast talking” done in letter format.

      You can go through the list yourself and spot how many goddamn fallacies are crammed into one letter. It’s fucking amazing.

      http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#repetition

  • dbloch7986

    How many people have to die before someone does something?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thanks for the perspective, Derek. I hope this ends sooner than later.

  • Lark Smith

    Wow, I got to watch my first troll Fest at The Hollywood Reporter. What an eye opener, I don’t really have the words to describe what I witnessed. Thanks to all the folks at the bunker for knowing how to handle
    them. You are well versed and capable. I hope to learn through your example. Going to de-slime now.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      A nice warm shower and a Peanut butter and jelly sandwich will fix you right up.

      • Lark Smith

        I went with an omelette, shower, and two vodka tonics – I feel much better now.

        • Lark Smith

          Aw ! What’s not to like about bathing, food, and a nightcap. Silly scieborg learn to chill.

    • Captain Howdy

      You called it right. The scilons are the ones with the guest votes. You got troll hunter potential, kid.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thanks for the heads up. I had posted and left there hours ago. What a train wreck! The “Church” operatives are more inept than ever. It’s great to see civilians hooting them down.

    • CharlieWaters

      Like Captain Howdy said, good call on the guest votes. You also seem to have struck a nerve with the poster called “Lister”. Judging by the childish comeback from Lister (not to mention the 19 guest vote likes), I’m guessing that was an OSAbot as well.

      Comedy gold!

      • Lark Smith

        I just imagine the poor bugger repeating click- refresh- up arrow all evening long. Tragically funny. Very surreal.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          And taking a sip of rare scotch between each click…

          • Lark Smith

            Hey, we have down arrows coming in they must have gotten tired of up arrowing themselves at HR. It is my first.

        • Dmitri

          I don’t think that trick works unless you have a proxy condomn

          • Lark Smith

            You can up arrow without signing in- sign off your account first. You just can’t down arrow or post.

    • Studious Judious

      that was entertaining. And educational for the masses.

      • Lark Smith

        It was definitely that lol

    • Dmitri

      Shit, I missed it! Who was the troll, Imma go look?

    • Vistaril

      Scientology needs better trolls, fer sure. Nice work over there, though. That’s how you put ethics in. Or, as we wogs might say, that’s how you train your chewtoys.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    OK people, I am way behind, so someone could have riffed on this already…but my favorite part of Haggis letter was that he reads the God Damn Bunker!
    Go Proprieter!!!!!

    I am pretty sure SugarPlumFairy is really Leah.
    (Don’t tell anyone I said that)!!!

    • Sherbet

      “…unemployed bloggers living on the fringe of the Internet…” Wrong, and wrong.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Right and Right Sherb!

        Oh, and off topic. Thank you.

        • Sherbet

          Oh, and off topic. Thank YOU!

      • Captain Howdy

        Speak for yourself!

        • Sherbet

          OK, Howdy, so Karin is talking about you. I have a job, even if I spend way too much time in the Bunker instead of performing said job. But that “fringe of the Internet” thing bothers me. The cult implies the Bunkerites are still using dial-up AOL to get to a Chat Room on their Tandy computers. (Buffering, buffering…)

          • Captain Howdy

            Your evenings musical interlude. Goodnight Ladies.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMt0XGJzVI

            • Sherbet

              Some lullabye, Howdy. Goodnight!

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s satirical. You don’t get that tight or get described as the Canadian Clash by being lazy. Everyone hated us but we knew we were right.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Hey, you don’t have the f*cking RANK to question the Cap’n’s musical choices..

            • Captain Howdy

              Darn tootin

            • sugarplumfairy

              Sherb can’t HANDLE the lullabye..

            • Sherbet

              You got me, sugarplum. I can’t type while doubled over, laughing.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Then my work here is done.. ‘night, all..

            • John P.

              They do lullabies like Steely Dan does love songs.

            • Dmitri

              And Steely Dan is coming to town! Yeah!

            • sugarplumfairy

              Is that you?? It’s great! And was that a burp in there at about .23?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Tandy computer.!!!..I just peed down my leg!!!!

          • Robert Eckert
            • Sherbet

              For an encore, let’s have fingernails on a blackboard.

            • Robert Eckert
            • Sherbet

              (Sticking fingers in my ears.)

            • noseinabk

              Get off the computer, I gotta use the phone!

            • Sherbet

              Ah, memories…

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Has my page from Sea World done loading yet? Another three hours? It must have flash animation…

            • noseinabk

              Well it may load faster if you close your chat room and My Space. Sheesh.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              You can open more than one page at a time…???

            • Andrew Robertson

              I remember those antediluvian times. “How big is the file? Hmm 7 MB. That will take 30 minutes to download. Better wait till everyone’s gone to bed.”

              Andrew

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lemme at ’em.. Imma smack ’em..

      • John P.

        unemployed bloggers living on the fringe of the internet

        And each of the different sites operated by said fringe bloggers gets more traffic every week than the central site for your cult, which is, according to your lights, the fastest growing religion on Earth. If they’re merely on the fringe, does that locate you somewhere in the Van Allen Belt (where, according to your founder, it’s pretty toasty warm)?

        • sugarplumfairy

          Plus, the fringe of the internet is the best part.. I think you have to be over 18 to enter and some of it you even have to pay for!

          • Sherbet

            You must be THIS tall to enter the fringe of the internet.

            • AnyOldName1

              Which is why Davey can’t visit :)

        • Sherbet

          Oh, you want to muddy up a lame, boilerplate insult with facts? (And it probably is quite warm where lrh is spending eternity.)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Technically Tony is unemployed, I suppose, but he’s far from the fringe of the internet. Maybe they are advocating the “speak it into existence” school of faith. Or is this an example of “postulating?” Whichever, it doesn’t work.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I think technically …Tony is “self employed”

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            I’m “self-employed.” Sometimes I say I am a consultant for hire. Other times that I work freelance. But technically, I am unemployed.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I suppose.

        • sugarplumfairy

          There’s a difference between unemployed and self-employed..

        • Sherbet

          It’s an example of “throwing all kinds of nonsense out there and hoping someone will believe it,” D-cubed.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            But done so unskillfully that it really does have the opposite effect, don’t you think?

            • Sherbet

              Seriously? If I were a faithful clam, I’d believe that Haggis is a hack, and that the only critics of the church are ignorant people who don’t bother to read the glorious truth about it. If the church said it, I’d believe it, because it would be the only side I’d ever know.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              But is Pouw only preaching to the choir? They could print a chinese take-out menu and the clams would eat it up (yuk yuk). But isn’t this supposed to convince the world (you know, us wogs) that Haggis is the bad guy? And isn’t it one big steaming heap of fail?

            • Sherbet

              I don’t think the world at large would take sides in this issue. If a non-scn took a look at Freedom, they’d think, Wow! Waayyyy over the top! But I’m not sure it would pique anyone’s interest to dig farther into the cult’s history of lies and exaggerations. So, maybe a heap of fail, but not a whole lot of damage done, either.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I agree. I would like to think the world at large was more educated..but i reality…I think we are few…..

            • Sherbet

              Remember, the world at large still thinks scientology is a (choke!) religion. But that perception is going to end, one of these days. And we’ll have fun in the Bunker when that happens.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              And then what? Will it be like after Elvis died? Candlelight vigils with an aging crowd that gets fewer every year?

            • Once_Born

              People killed themselves when Rudolph Valentino died. Now, I have to remeber to point out that he is was a silent film actor…

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              yes,,,BTN must go to bed….:)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ain’t that the truth! Many folks listen to Rush Limbaugh and don’t think he’s way over the top.

      • Dmitri

        We all get nice big checks from Big Pharma for making fun of Scientology, LOL

    • sugarplumfairy

      =)

      I’d like to thank all my fans for their support and especially for their evil tweets to my ex-BFFF ( and no, that extra F is not superfluous)..

      And speaking of kirstie, I’m watching Lifetime and I just saw an ad for a new movie called ‘Baby Stealers..’ looks like kirstie plays the villain..

      • Sherbet

        Oh, a documentary, ‘fairy?

        • sugarplumfairy

          Not sure, but again, her hair was not combed..

          • Sherbet

            Are you sure the movie isn’t “Pittsburgh Steelers,” and Kirstie is playing a defensive tackle?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol..

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Or the whole front line???

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              She would most certainly be offensive tackle.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Who’s playing…?

      • WhereIsSHE

        Kirstie is someone who has no concern for the actual and horrific suffering of other human beings (and particularly the WEAK, PREYED-UPON, DOWN-ON-THEIR-LUCK population who get scammed into scrubbing toilets with toothbrushes, all for the “right” to be a SLAVE to endless mind-fucks).

        The extra F can be a variety of unsavory adjectives, and she deserves them all.

  • nottrue

    the church response to haggis open letter talks about a collection of unemployed bloggers living on the fringe of the internet obsessed with spinning myths about the church. oh yes a wild posse of lunatics with arrest records.oh DM your 9th grade education is showing again

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Fringe sounds like Lace…i like it!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Dripping with fringe– very Stevie Nicks!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ooohh, you get an extra 150 points for Stevie!!!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Stevie Nicks used to scare me. Now the thought of her makes me happy.

          • Robert Eckert

            I saw Stevie Nicks and Don Henley perform “Leather and Lace” live. That was awesome. Stevie was all professional, but Don was obviously still smitten.

        • sugarplumfairy

          lol.. Is that a tiny fists joke?

          edit: that was in response to your “who’s playing the baby?” I goofed..

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            The randomness seemed somewhat apt at this time of the evening, so… no worries.

        • WhereIsSHE

          From one of the greatest flicks ever made (Sid & Nancy):

          [Nancy storms out of their flat in Sid’s mother’s clothes, then sees herself reflected in a window]

          Nancy: AAGGHH! I look like fuckin’ Stevie Nicks in hippie clothes!

          • LaLa104

            But I based my wardrobe around Stevie Nicks in the late 70’s early 80’s… Damn, I even karooke’d my butt thru the 90’s in honor of her.. lulz………..

    • nottrue

      yeah keep reading and giving downers and the more you read just maybe the light might come on.

  • India Crep

    Well, Pouw isn’t very bright, you know. She’s one of the dumber Scientology criminals out there. I mean consider: The smarter Scientology criminals have all fled ahead of the coming felony indictments and FBI raids, but Pouw is suck a stupid dimwit that she’s going to stick with that insane Dwarf until the FBI orders her to the ground.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Will she be Baghdad Bob-ette? Fearlessly broadcasting that the enemies of Scientology are fleeing in terror even as the walls are falling down around her?

      As much as I like the idea, I just… can’t… be… that vindictive.

      Rats.

      • WhereIsSHE

        When you were young and your heart was an open book
        You used to say live and let live
        (You know you did, you know you did you know you did)
        But if this ever changing world in which we live in
        Makes you give in and cry

        Say live and let die
        (Live and let die)
        Live and let die
        (Live and let die)

        What does it matter to ya
        When you got a job to do
        You gotta do it well
        You gotta give the other fellow hell

        You used to say live and let live
        (You know you did, you know you did you know you did)
        But if this ever changing world in which we live in
        Makes you give in and cry.

        • WhereIsSHE

          In other words…
          You don’t have to be vindictive.
          And more than that…
          You don’t have to feel responsible.

          You just have to see that the reality of what you once appreciated (or were falsely led to believe in) has changed for the ever-loving-worst, and you can’t save every single one who still clings to the madness (or who clearly did so, despite evidence, in abundance, to the contrary).

          Live and let live, yes.
          But… sometimes…
          Live and let die.

        • Robert Eckert

          Hey, this is the Bunker! No fair posting an earworm without a link:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7aGAIWe3uE

          • WhereIsSHE

            The lyrics, I like.
            The earworm part.. I was hoping to spare myself and others!!

          • WhereIsSHE

            OMFingFlyingSpaghettiMonster=(!! I made the mistake of clicking on your link=(((((!

            Sorry to everyone for posting those lyrics=((((!!!!!!!

            Running to the turntable to throw on the song I should have posted lyrics to in the first place:

            I just thought that most here wouldn’t be able to relate to FLIPPER lyrics, but.. fuck it. Here they are:

            There are eyes that cannot see
            And fingers that cannot touch
            That’s the way of the world
            There are dreams left empty and blank
            And legs that have ceased to walk
            That’s the way of the world
            There are kisses left undelivered
            And Sighs and moans unuttered
            That’s the way of the world
            There are hearts no longer beating
            And there are entrails spilled on the floor
            That’s the way of the world

            More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmania.com/thats_the_way_of_the_world_lyrics_flipper.html
            All about Flipper: http://www.musictory.com/music/Flipper

            • Captain Howdy

              You’re a Flipper fan and a lawyer? Holy shit!

        • LaLa104

          Well, WIS, I liked the song by Paul and I thought the versus were appropriate! DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DUN DUN, LIVE AND LET DIE!

        • SP ‘Onage

          Gosh, you and I must be polar opposites :) because every time I listen to the song ♪Not Ready To Make Nice♪ by the Dixie Chicks it reminds me of those who have struggled and are never going to give up fighting the cult.

          Forgive, sounds good
          Forget, I’m not sure I could
          They say time heals everything
          But I’m still waiting

          I’m through with doubt
          There’s nothing left for me to figure out
          I’ve paid a price
          And I’ll keep paying

          I’m not ready to make nice
          I’m not ready to back down
          I’m still mad as hell and
          I don’t have time to go round and round and round
          It’s too late to make it right
          I probably wouldn’t if I could
          ‘Cause I’m mad as hell
          Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should

          I know you said
          Can’t you just get over it
          It turned my whole world around
          And I kind of like it

          I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
          With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
          It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
          Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
          And how in the world can the words that I said
          Send somebody so over the edge
          That they’d write me a letter
          Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
          Or my life will be over

          I like the YouTube video of them at the Grammys heres the title of the video:

          Dixie Chicks – Not Ready To Make Nice (GRAMMYs on CBS)

      • N. Graham

        Wonder what’ Baghdad Bob’s doing now? C’mon Davey! He does really well with propaganda and speaks English better than you! You need a good spokesperson! Baghdad Bob is probably available!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s27Oq5ot0ZI

    • Robert Eckert

      Do we really know that Karin is still on post? Or does Davey just cut-and-paste from her prior press releases and send it out over her name?

      • Dmitri

        I get the impression he writes the stupid press releases himself. The lack of education seems evident.

  • Show Me an Fn Clear

    Here’s something that may have the ‘black hand’ significantly involved:

    **http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/health/rehab-racket-siu-cir-part-three/index.html**

    • media_lush

      ‘Able’ is definitely scientology [I think]

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        dk

        Bro, any/all narcissistic (sp) jackasses want to emulate the ‘success’ of narconon’s ability to steal money under the rehab guise. Surely ‘independent’ NoN/scilon type operators are at the trough in this situation. eh?

        I call it out. Pro journalists, aka Tony, may find color in the pan.

        appreciate your posts, media_lush…

      • noseinabk

        From Wiki: ABLE acts as an umbrella organization for four entities:[4]
        Applied Scholastics, educational programs based on study technology
        Criminon, a rehabilitation program for prisoners
        Narconon, a drug rehabilitation program
        The Way to Happiness Foundation, dedicated to disseminating Hubbard’s “non-religious moral code”, which consists of 21 precepts such as “Don’t be promiscuous”, “Do not harm a person of good will” and “Respect the religious beliefs of others”

      • Studious Judious

        I don’t think the drug rehabs mentioned in the CNN story were related to Scientology, even though one of them did have the word Able in their name.

        • media_lush

          hmmm, we have “widespread fraud linked to California’s drug rehab program”, …. what are the odds that something some “widespread” is NOT scientology…. come on, can you imagine them finding out about competition to their lucrative con and NOT doing anything about it? it has to be them as I can’t imagine anyone taking them on in this fraud and getting away with it. It’s like a street drug dealer being happy with another dealer right on his patch and not taking a cut!

          • Show Me an Fn Clear

            RO, need to hit it where it counts

          • Show Me an Fn Clear

            ‘what are the odds that something so “widespread” is NOT scientology’
            Precisely…

        • Show Me an Fn Clear

          Sir, can agree with you. However please, let’s find out. Apparently State of Cal has a lot to find out and has admitted some level of defeat. Please, my message was that a journalist, many journalists, should look into the situ. And, due to scion involvement into rehab, one questions motives, one wonders where the money goes.

    • media_lush

      “To uncover this story on widespread fraud linked to California’s drug rehab program,…..
      — A yearlong investigation by CNN ”

      …… sheeeit, year long? ….. they haven’t mentioned scientology by name but can you imagine the stuff they have…. I just can’t get over they’ve been doing it for a frikkin’ year!!! …. Hear that Davey, CNN has been investigating “widespread fraud” in your toxic drug death camps for way longer then it’e been hitting local media…. I reckon you’ve just reached a whole new level of the butt-hole boogey clench!

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        Tho think, my friend, gave ’em a year long to EDIT… Gotta bring the edit back.

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        And ya know, the NoN state actions are dying…

  • SP ‘Onage

    Gawd, I hope Paulette Cooper is belly laughing about this scandal? Karma is your friend, my dear. 😉

  • media_lush

    I’m tinkering with my next blog header….. :

    EX CULT GOON [THE MORE ENLIGHTENED OF THE TERRIBLE TWOSOME] DECONSTRUCTS SCIENTOLOGY’S REPLY TO PAUL HAGGIS…. MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE IDIOTS

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-responds-to-paul-haggis-sort-of/

    Kudos to Mr Rinder for becoming, er…. more enlightened, type thing

    • WhereIsSHE

      I will admit that I enjoy reading his posts (and the comment sections). I learn a LOT over there.

      Here’s to redemption:
      (I Did it My Way, the Sid Vicious version, which, IMO, is the best version, ever.)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyb_alTkMQ

  • Sarah James

    Anyone with integrity is fair game to a small minded man like David Miscavige. Some day his army will leave him and he and Tom will be lonely.

  • N. Graham

    I’m really thinking of quitting my job so I can become one of the “small collection of unemployed bloggers living on the fringe of the Internet who are obsessed with spinning myths about the Church.” In the meantime, I’m thinking of going to a Myth Spinning 101 class so I can be ready.

  • media_lush

    as SP’s ‘r’ US is an open group I feel it okay to post this….. disturbing and confirmation of their total incompetence

    • Show Me an Fn Clear

      Please Sir, Quick knowledge to fill my void

      What is SP’s ‘r’ US

    • Show Me an Fn Clear

      And what language translator do I effect?

      • Show Me an Fn Clear

        This is from an i-net attack. Cleverly crafted, once discovered somewhat easily removed

    • John P.

      I would remind you that Lia Kea is another name for Yulia Keaton, the lady profiled in Tony’s blog a while ago as making a bizarre attempt to infiltrate the Sea Org, which was apparently rather easily discovered. It sounds as if her credibility is suspect in many areas. The blog post from June is here: http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/10/scientology-goes-after-critics-with-legal-threat-letters-following-strange-infiltration/

      That said, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Scientology proprietary computer applications used 1980s or 1990s software development technology, where something like this could happen. Going all the way back to the “Duke of Chug” story that Hubbard told, it doesn’t appear that the cult has a lot of good “software karma.”

  • sugarplumfairy

    “…She barely knew me, and yet she fought for me and my family, a battle she had to know in her gut she was never going to win. That takes an enormous amount of integrity and compassion. I will leave it to you to decide if the same can be said of Scientology’s executives and Leah’s many former friends — especially those Scientologists who are watching her be smeared now and are choosing to stay silent…”

    Wow.. I just read Haggis’ letter.. I lovvvvvve Paul Haggis and I lovvvvve that he is calling out celebrity scientologists.. this is amazing..

  • Artoo45

    ” . . . tremendous expansion?” Santa Rosa is the largest city between San Francisco and Portland. The mission here is gone and the remaining clams can’t even get anyone to set up their little stress tent at the Wednesday night Farmer’s Market anymore. Pathetic.

    • Missionary Kid

      Pathetic, but it makes me happy.

    • Show Me an Fn Clear

      From socal: Right on, what it is, cool!

  • DodoTheLaser

    USA Today jumped in too:

    “Paul Haggis supports ‘shaken’ Leah Remini”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/07/31/paul-haggis-praises-leah-reminis-brave-scientology-decision/2603381/

  • DodoTheLaser

    Kind of off topic – the guys over at: https://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/tom-cruise-annoyed-at-trolling-by-jessica-white-cc-int-staffers-advise-hiv-to-avoid-taking-antiretroviral-drugs/ mentioned something about Leilani Dowding a few days ago. Well, the guys over at: http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/this-is-how-you-scientology/ now mentioned her too, or should I say pictured her. Good times!

    [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2q8ndxs.jpg[/IMG]

    The course pack in her hand is Personal values and integrity.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      OT TC would never go for such a Brazen Hussy!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Well, may be he was looking for her his whole life.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Could it be a new strategy for the Ideal Scientologists and their image?! I think it might work. 😉

      [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/21l3h39.jpg[/IMG]

    • Nevermore

      I have to admit that I’ve never heard of her – is she a ‘celebrity’??

      • Jon Hendry

        She’s a former “Page 3” girl from the UK Sun newspaper. (Page 3 has a photo of a topless model every day.)

        • Nevermore

          Oh, being a Brit, I know The Sun, but I don’t read it. Only partly because of their creepy fixation with page 3. Perfect cat litter tray liner, and not good for anything else.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Don’t be silly. She is doing stuff in the “Celebrity Center”, so she must be a celebrity.

    • Snuzey

      “Personal Values And Integrity based on the work of LRH”

      Guffaw. Oh the irony of it all. Surprised they managed to make a booklet out of that. Has Kirsty Alley read it?

    • Brainslugged

      She’s actually best buddies with my ex-wife. My ex knows all about the cult through me and was the one handed the letter by them accusing me of being in a “terrorist organization” because I attended a protest. So I really can’t believe she’s now letting her friend get sucked into this. I’m just hoping it’s an attempt to get some publicity.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Please read and contribute, as you wish:

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?32492-Remini-Family-positive-vibes-thread

    The thread is full of win. Leah’s step mom is there too.

  • 0tessa

    I would say that every line contains one lie, maybe more. An absolute record for Scientology Inc. Is there anyone left who believes this?!

  • 0tessa

    Leah Remini: I read your response to the letter of my friend Paul Haggis. I understand it. Thank you. I repeat the question: “Where is Shelly Miscavige?”

    • DodoTheLaser

      Shelly Miscavige is probably in the bunker, the other one, unfortunately.
      If anyone can help Shelly at this point, that would be Leah, true friend.
      The mental trap can be the worst kind.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Remini, Ribisi – there is a harmony somewhere,imo.

  • Simon

    If being a Sciloon gives you special powers, why hasn’t Kirstie Alley been able to magic up a hit show for herself?

    • DodoTheLaser

      She was waiting for John Travolta. OT’s survive better together.

      L Ron said so, when he failed to conquer Zimbabwe/Rhodesia
      and formed the Sea Org as a fuck you to SMERSH and the psychs.

      This should work.

  • Simon

    There’s a way to deal with the Sciloons’ habit of smears and insane questions that’s been proven very effective in a video I saw on Youtube. When they ask things like “What crimes have you committed?”, all you have to do is play along and go “Oh plenty. I murdered someone, robbed a bank”. Check this dickstain’s response when the protester plays along and says he murdered a guy and chopped him up into pieces. The prick had no reply and just said “Yeah, very funny”. That’s what that T-shirt dude should’ve done when Jenne Elfman started dementedly screaming “Have you raped a baby? Oh my god, you raped a baby!” If you just respond in kind, they have nowhere to go.

    Go to 3:24 for the fun:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y

    • Sandy

      Oh dear. That is poor Dan Murman. When he was younger, I thought he was quite the looker. But, he went ’round the bend, and I am afraid he is cray cray now. Pitiful. Makes me really sad…

  • Simon

    “If Mr. Haggis was as successful and prolific at manufacturing drama for audiences”

    What, you mean like winning 2 Oscars as screenwriter and producer of Crash, co-writing two hugely successful James Bond movies, writing three award winning Clint Eastwood films, including the Oscar winning Million Dollar Baby, and finishing a new film starring Oscar winner Adrien Brody and Liam Neeson?

    Now, how many Oscars have Tom, Kirstie, John and, er, Jenna Elfman won?

    • DodoTheLaser

      Ouch.

      • DodoTheLaser

        P.S. There is a Maiden Voyage vid with John Travolta claiming Battlefield Earth is going to supersede everything seen before, in terms of the meaning and special effects. I personally have seen him saying that while on staff, right before the BE came out. I believe it’s his biggest nightmare to this day.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Excellent sleuthing and quoting of Karin Pouw!

    While ex members like Tory and Gerry have for years said this is all routine, these smear propaganda sites, for Karin Pouw to admit it, and for journalists to notice Scientology is admitting it, this makes it defnitive.

    Great job.

    I wish Katie, Nicole and Lisa Marie would throw a Hollywood party bash and invite ALL of the ex Scientology celebrities to come, to party and celebrate Leah’s exit!

    In fact, what would be cool, is if the celebs held their yearly “Celeb SP PartY” in Hollywood! And welcome out and party the latest “SP” celebs!

  • Erique SG Dougherty

    Statement by the Church of Scientology…”I know you are but what am I”? Another applied scholastics graduate penning a ‘response’ from the cult.

    Can you imagine a papal encyclical starting out, “women need to stop their pathetic whining about becoming priests. They are just bitter and jealous of men”? I’m surprised the media doesn’t pick up on this group more often. The entertainment value alone is well worth it. But that is the yoke that hangs around our American necks when it comes to religion. No one wants to ‘judge’ religion. Of course, it’s perfectly fine for religion to judge everyone else. Weird double standard in this country.

  • dagobarbz

    “Posse of lunatics.” For people who don’t believe in psychiatry, they are sure fond of issuing diagnoses that sound just like something a psych would say…or someone trying to describe Juggalos…

  • Karen Pressley

    With the blunders Pouw is making, I think her days are numbered for staying on post. I’m surprised Miscavige is letting her stay on the front lines. But Pouw, Mary Reiser and similar icons are doing us all a favor–their lies and blunders are helping the sinking ship to sink faster.

  • WhatWouldXenuDo?

    ” Mr. Haggis once again is exploiting his tenuous connection with Scientology to grab headlines.” Like anyone ever wants to purposely have themselves identifed as having any kind
    of connection with the Scions. No one there really understands how
    ridiculous ALL their responses are, do they? Does Karin Pouw Pouw write
    that drivel herself?