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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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No, LA Weekly, Tom Cruise’s career was not ruined by a GIF

CouchJumpAmy Nicholson is the film reviewer for LA Weekly and she is disappointed that Tom Cruise is not the movie star that he once was.

OK, fair enough. But Nicholson doesn’t bemoan Cruise’s choice of movie projects. She wants to place the blame on us — the Internet consumers who ruined Tom’s career because we thought we saw Tom jump on Oprah Winfrey’s couch back in 2005 and made fun of him for it.

Actually, if you watch video of Tom’s 2005 appearance on Oprah’s show, he does indeed jump on her couch — twice — but Nicholson tells us that GIFs made of the moment exaggerated Tom’s antics and made it look like Tom was jumping up and down on her couch, when that wasn’t the case.

There, do you feel chastened now?

Nicholson is clearly a Cruise fan, so maybe it’s understandable that she completely misses why that moment had such an effect at the time. But worse than that, Nicoholson amply demonstrates that she knows almost nothing about Scientology and Tom’s involvement in it, which is really why the man has lost so much of his luster over the last decade.

There are so many examples to cite, but first and foremost we’ll point out that Nicholson wrote a 5,000-word story about Tom Cruise and the Internet without, somehow, pointing out the single most important element in that saga — the nine-minute internal church video of Cruise talking about Scientology that surfaced in 2008. Actually recorded in 2004, a year before Tom jumped on Oprah’s couch, that remarkable video has done far more damage to Cruise’s credibility, and was directly responsible for mobilizing the Anonymous movement, changing the Internet itself and how we think of it forever.

In case you need a refresher…

 

 
Any story attempting to understand Tom Cruise and how his career was impacted by the Internet would not only have to talk about that devastating video, but also place it in some context. It’s true, as Nicholson points out, that Cruise had joined Scientology more than a decade earlier — it was his first wife, Mimi Rogers, who got him into it — but what has only become clear in recent years is that after Cruise married Nicole Kidman in 1990, and after she initially showed enthusiasm for the church, Nicole and Tom began to pull away from it. Former church officials tell us that by 1995 or so, Tom Cruise was virtually out of Scientology entirely, a fact Scientology managed to keep quiet until recently. Then, after Cruise and Kidman broke up in 2001, Scientology leader David Miscavige made a concerted effort to get Cruise back into the fold.

It became the job of Marty Rathbun — Miscavige’s top lieutenant and a highly regarded auditor — to turn Cruise back into a gung-ho Scientologist, and through 2003 and 2004 he succeeded mightily. (Cruise became such a loyal member, he was even letting Scientology ‘audition’ his girlfriends for him.) Cruise was not only a zealous Scientologist again and Miscavige’s best friend, he was ready, for the first time in his career, to talk publicly about Scientology. Miscavige was so thrilled, he had a special award made for his pal, the Freedom Medal of Valor. Miscavige had the nine-minute interview made, and he showed it as part of a 35-minute celebration of Cruise at the October 2004 International Association of Scientologists gala. Cruise was ready to become Miscavige’s emissary to the world.

 
CruiseMedal

 
That’s the crucial background to understand as Cruise fired his longtime publicist, Pat Kingsley, who had spent years making sure reporters didn’t ask Cruise about Scientology. Cruise replaced Kingsley with his sister, who couldn’t, as Nicholson points out, control the press the way Kingsley did. But Miscavige and Cruise wanted the actor to take the message of Scientology to the public.

And that’s when things backfired so badly. Ask Rathbun or Mike Rinder, Scientology’s former spokesman: When Cruise was acting like a lunatic in his interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show a month after the Oprah adventure, he was carrying out David Miscavige’s program. Rathbun has told us it’s really Miscavige we’re watching as Cruise parrots Scientology mantras about the evils of psychiatry.

And there’s another reason why Tom Cruise’s suddenly strange behavior had such a huge effect at the time. In 1991, Scientology had sued Time magazine for $416 million over a cover story that called the church the “thriving cult of greed and power.” Time eventually got the lawsuit dismissed, but not before it spent millions in court. That sent a clear message to the rest of the media, and over the next 15 years there was a chilling effect that kept most mainstream media from going near Scientology stories.

Now, suddenly, Scientology’s poster boy, Tom Cruise, was bringing up that subject himself. The media jumped on a topic it had largely considered taboo because of the fears of their own attorneys. Sure, from the perspective of a fan, Tom simply jumped on a couch and had a weird argument with Matt Lauer. But those events opened the floodgates. In 2005, the LA Times, inspired by the kerfuffle, took a serious and hard look at the relationship between Tom Cruise and David Miscavige, and also uncovered startling facts about Scientology’s secretive International Base east of Los Angeles. Hoping to sway the Times while the story was still being prepared, Miscavige sent the newspaper this photograph…

 
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We’re serious. Mike Rinder, who was Scientology’s top publicity man at the time, tells us Miscavige had that photo sent to the LA Times and he’s never really understood why. It was another major miscalculation, and it only amplified the impression that Cruise and Miscavige had a weird thing going on.

Another direct result of Tom’s 2005 antics and the ensuing media tsunami: It inspired Rolling Stone to ask one of its best journalists, Janet Reitman, to figure out what all the fuss was about. Starting from the ground up, she began learning about Scientology, which not only produced a terrific 2006 article for Rolling Stone, but eventually resulted in Reitman’s 2011 book, Inside Scientology.

In fact, the media obsession with Scientology has never really subsided since Tom Cruise made it safe again to write about it. John Sweeney’s BBC special, Scientology and Me, appeared in 2007, and then in early 2008 the infamous Tom Cruise video showed up, Anonymous took to the streets after Scientology tried to take it down, and another media frenzy began.

Again and again, it has been Tom Cruise himself who has fueled that interest. (You can practically chart the explosion in stories about Scientology to his life events.) And, as Lawrence Wright showed so skillfully in his 2013 book, Going Clear, Cruise and John Travolta and other celebrities have been pampered and pacified while they had to know that Scientology was accused of shocking allegations of abuse against its more prosaic members. (Wright was the first to reveal, in the New Yorker, that Cruise had benefited directly from the labor of Scientology’s ‘Sea Org’ workers, who are paid pennies an hour. We subsequently published photographic evidence of it.)

Why is Tom Cruise losing his mojo? Maybe because every time we learn more about Scientology’s prisons and forced abortions and ripping apart of families and spying and scorched-earth legal tactics, we can’t help wonder, why doesn’t Tom speak out? Why doesn’t he even ask where the missing wife of his best friend is? Why can’t Tom talk about what Jenna Miscavige Hill went through? Or Laura DeCrescenzo? Or Claire Headley?

Tom Cruise has ruined his own credibility and image through his connection to Scientology and his bizarre behavior on its behalf. Blaming Perez Hilton and Arianna Huffington and some nameless guy who made a GIF of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah’s couch is a nice try, but we’re not buying it.

 
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Ryan Hamilton files his ninth federal lawsuit against Narconon

narconon-redwood-cliffsLas Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton keeps putting more pressure on Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon. He’s filed his second federal fraud lawsuit against Narconon’s facility in Watsonville, California, and his ninth overall, with other suits in California, Nevada, and Colorado.

For years, Narconon was praised and endorsed by Scientology’s celebrities — Tom Cruise claimed that “We are the authorities in getting people off drugs.” But patient deaths, multiple government investigations, and dozens of lawsuits — including one filed last week by a prestigious credentialing organization that claims Narconon for years has conspired to misrepresent its certifications — has taken its toll on the network.

And now, there’s another federal fraud lawsuit. The details are much like the others, as attorney Hamilton zeroes in on the deceptions that are inherent in the Narconon business plan, and that we’ve detailed for years.

In this instance, we have another very recent case — it was just in January that Missouri resident Robin Jones was looking for a rehab facility for her son, James “Jimmy” Ramirez Jr.

She was referred by a generic website to “Redwood Cliffs,” the Narconon facility in Watsonville, California, which didn’t mention its connection to the Narconon network, but claimed to have a 76 percent success rate.

(We’ve seen Narconon facilities advertise up to 90 percent success rates — but an internal e-mail written by its legal affairs officer which we obtained last year showed that the network has no real scientific proof to back up those claims.)

The usual Narconon claims were made to Jones: that her son would get drug counseling at a facility staffed with a licensed physician. Based on those claims, Jones paid $35,500 up front for Jimmy’s treatment.

Once Jimmy was at the facility, instead of drug counseling he was given introductory Scientology training, and subjected to a sauna program Scientologists call the Purification Rundown.

Despite NNC [Narconon Redwood Cliffs] representations that Jimmy would receive counseling, at no point did staff ever speak to Jimmy about the specifics of his life or his drug use and its causes. In fact, no one at NNC ever spoke to Jimmy about his substance abuse at all.

NNC transferred Jimmy to from its facility near Watsonville, California to its facility near Lake Tahoe, California known as “Emerald Pines.”

Because he was not receiving anything resembling treatment and because he did not feel safe at NNC’s facility, Jimmy left NNC with a group of patients.

Jimmy and the other patients walked to town from the facility. They found lodging while they made travel plans to return to their respective home states.

NNC staff camped outside their hotel room, followed them around town, and repeatedly harassed Jimmy and the other patients.

Jimmy and the others were forced to ask local police to get NNC staff to leave them alone.

The lawsuit also names Narconon’s umbrella organization, Narconon International, and Scientology’s umbrella group for its “social betterment” programs, the Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE), which oversees Narconon International.

Here’s the complaint…

 

Jones et al vs Narconon Complaint

 
By our count, that’s nine federal fraud lawsuits Hamilton has filed against Narconon in California, Nevada, and Colorado.

Angelo Amato (San Diego)
Christy Estrada and Branden Chavez (San Diego)
Cathy and Michael Tarr (Nevada)
Harry and Lauren Geanacopulos (Nevada)
David, Stacy, and Jack Welch (Nevada)
Bryan and Nikki Mott (Colorado)
Charles and Tyler Matthys, and Linda Phillips (Colorado)
Kenneth and Jered Mowery (Watsonville, CA)

We asked our legal expert, Scott Pilutik, for his thoughts on the NAFC lawsuit that was filed Friday, and whether it will have some effect on the Hamilton and other Narconon lawsuits.

The NAFC/ACCFC lawsuit against Narconon is a pretty wonderful thing. Even if the complaint stopped 84 paragraphs in, those first 84 paragraphs naming the myriad Narconon entities, their DBAs, and their franchisors is an incalculable public service. I’m curious, though, how complete the list is, and whether it’s possible the NAFC/ACCFC came across any Narconon entity that wasn’t falsely asserting their endorsement/affiliation.

The implication that flows from the NAFC/ACCFC’s complaint is that not only are Narconon entities asserting non-existing/withdrawn/suspended licenses and certifications, but that they appear to flaunt trademark law in concert with a mannered unity (para. 253 calls it a “common purpose”). Narconons are franchises, supposedly barely affiliated with Scientology’s ostensibly religious entities much less each other, yet they all appear to be following an identical playbook.

Now if I’m, say, Ryan Hamilton, I’m probably thinking this lawsuit is extra wonderful. Most of the cases Hamilton is bringing allege fraud, and so the inquiry here, though not fraud per se, will focus on a concerted, knowing deception by the Narconon entities and their director parents. But perhaps even more useful is what I mentioned above — these various Narconon entities and corporate parents appear to be acting (too) harmoniously. Hamilton would likely be very interested in the factual record generated by the NAFC/ACCFC case, and obviously anything mentioned by the judge with respect to the entities sharing a common purpose.

 
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Jillian Schlesinger on Sea Org control

Another fascinating video from Karen de la Carriere — Jillian Schlesinger talks about how Scientology keeps Sea Org members from learning about the outside world…

 

 
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  • Truthiwant

    When you drive past an accident, who would you prefer to see?…

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      I want those handsome dude’s from,Emergency. I don’t think they ever lost a patient. Dixie would ask you your name etc.. I’d loath to be touched by a,$cion. And I sue and bruise easily. Anyone EVER heard of them saving anyone from a wreck. Probably just lout their wallet and give 1/2 to tiny D and buy a pack of kools with what was left over. Never seen,”$cientologist saves lives at,more at 4.”

      • Aslansown

        I had a huge crush on Johnny Gage.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          I liked the,Indian fellow.

          • Aslansown

            That’s him — Randolph Mantooth. I’ve heard from firefighter friends that he still has a career by going around speaking at fire departments.

      • Gus_Cox

        I remember watching Emergency when I was a kid… I always got a kick about how every time they radioed in the patient’s vitals, the hospital would radio back, “Start I.V. D5W.” Except on occasion it would be Ringer’s lactate. I thought D5W must have been some kind of miracle cure-all! (Much later I found out that D5W is basically sugar water – Dextrose 5% in Water – and Ringer’s is electrolytes).

      • Missionary Kid

        I always thought Julie London, who played nurse Dixie, was a dish. She was the producer of the show, Jack Webb’s ex-wife and, was cast with her real-life husband, Bobby Troup, who played Dr. Joe Early. (Troup, a musician and songwriter, is the person who wrote the song, (Get Your Kicks on) Route 66)

    • Robert Eckert

      We want Jason Beghe heading up the crew on the scene.

  • SOL

    I believe that Oprah has in fact done a great deal of actual good for society (albeit largely through the inherently flawed medium of daytime TV) and I am willing to concede that the cinematic œuvre of Tom Cruise includes movies which his fans find entertaining and which some critics find good. Be that as it may, I just cannot understand the behavior of ANYBODY in that clip of the infamous “couch incident.” Nitrous oxide in the ventilation system? Snorting straight Kool-Aid?

    • Jgg2012

      Actually, all he did was jump on a couch backwards, jump off, pound the floor with his fist and then grab Oprah and shake her.

      • SOL

        Somehow I suspect that if I try that at the next party I attend, I’ll be asked if I want to lie down upstairs, the only screams will be from the children I frighten, and in all likelihood the hostess will never invite me back. (Unless I do it during a game of charades.)

  • WhamBham

    Media-Lush and I are at the LAweekly.com site giving comments/rebuttals if anyone wants to join…we are there ALONE…sorry, but it’s great when we comment on TO’s site, but we need to comment on other sites where new public see them….

    • Captain Howdy

      I’m commenting as burnttoast.

      • WhamBham

        awesome…thx! :)

    • Jgg2012

      Well, I agreed that the internet ruined Cruise. Asian jungles ruined LBJ, hedge funds ruined Madoff, hotel rooms ruined Nixon…

  • AutOmatic

    Thank you Karen and Jillian for another amazing video that exposes the absolute horrors of the vile criminal organization called Scientology!

    …and Tom Cruise is still a douche.

  • Jgg2012

    Nicholson not only omitted the 9-minute tape, but she also left out the Lauer interview and the 3 divorces. She did touch on a key point; Pat Kingsley kept TC from discussing Scientology. His decision in 2004 (or so) to replace her with his sister led to his looking ridiculous and Scientology receiving increasing scrutiny.

  • KNMF

    Miscavige thought he’d be living it up with Tom Cruise and David Beckham, but instead of that, Slappy must hide from every non-scientologist on earth and never be exposed to their questions.
    Just like Hubbard, his accountability for the indefensible cult makes him the most cowardly and fragile hothouse flower of them all. He has to treat the simplest questions as if they’re assassination attempts.

    I wonder if the ding-bat known as Kirstie Alley realizes how much power she has over Miscavige. These celebs in good standing, especially her and Travolta, could make Miscavige jump though hoops. I wonder if Travolta understands that right now, he could flip the game. The emperor has no clothes, he’s on his heels and he can’t speak for himself.

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      He doesn’t want to have his past exposed. He came out against the,mini Tyrant. Then would get sloppy and bring backs tricks to his suite at the Celeb Center. Tini fists,got it on film and it would seem has,JT in a chokehold. Everybody, would just ignore Chusty,like they do now.

      • KNMF

        You know who else doesn’t want to be exposed and doesn’t want to face questions?
        Who is the bigger criminal? The mindfuck is the only thing Davy really has going for him.

    • Baby

      I don’t think Krusty and Trav have any power over DM KNMF..

      He’s got Trump … on those two..They were the only 2 celebs that showed up for SP..( Plus Travolta’s beard Kelly)

      • KNMF

        Any big-ass scilon celebrity in good standing who has the balls to call-out Slappy in public, can ruin him. Right now, say Elisabeth Moss (star high, level headed persona), if she suddenly flipped, could destroy Miscavige by calling him out to answer simple, pointed questions about the doings of the tax exempt religio-corp he runs.
        Slappy couldn’t do it. He cannot come out of his gilded rat-hole and engage in Q&A with an informed Wog. Nightline might as well have been a million years ago. It’s a new day.

        Celebs talk for a living, and Slappy can’t talk. If John Travolta suddenly decided that he wanted Miscavige to publicly address the horrifying evidence and testimony that exists, Jt’s “gay-issue” would be the least interesting thing on the table. And in fact, the sudden “outing” would be much more damning for Miscavige than Travolta, and would confirm the suspected blackmail.
        Travolta would finally be admired for something that mattered and he’d finally know real freedom.

        • Baby

          That makes sense KNMF … and I would be on anyone’s bandwagon who left.. anyone’s

          • Panopea Abrupta

            Baby, i forgot to ask you or BTN or Cat’s Knees.
            Vinay was at Flagdown the 1st night.

            How was he?
            D’you guys talk w him?
            What did he ask?
            Sound was so bad.

            • DeElizabethan

              Didn’t get his question yet. But, he was a friendly, nice guy who laughed with Baby.

            • Baby

              Vinay sat with us the first night. Very nice in person. Handsome man.

              Didn’t realize at first he was OUR Vinay.. Bury or maybe Cat can tell you what he asked..

              I forget.. Bury is Mensa.. and I’m just old..ha Cat was taking notes..

        • Tracy Schmitz

          it just boggles my mind that these big stars not only get sucked in this cult, but basically are used and allow themselves to be used, blackmailed or whatever as long as they “stay on board” otherwise uh oh! i would be like “i’m so and so” i don’t cower to anyone or anything!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    I read the whole article.
    From Cruise’s own mouth, page1:
    “Putting me in there is absolutely absurd, and it pisses me off because I
    work hard and then some guy just slaps me together with everybody
    else.”
    The irony, Tom, the irony.

    Those words could easily have been spoken by a member of $cientology’s Sea Org
    re the Hole and David Miscavige, bully ecclesiastical, the Punching Pontiff of
    $cientology.

    This article is so wilfully blind, Hubbard’s bloviations will have to be published in braille so Ms. Nicholson can
    learn with what shenanigans Cruise is associated.
    To gloss over the Cruise/$cientology marriage is to neglect the only successful marriage the man has had.
    His best friend, Miscavige, will eventually be successfully prosecuted
    for the numerous nefarious acts in which he and his “Church” are involved.
    Inurement is a good word for which to consult one’s Webster’s or O.E.D.
    Cruise, since he is a Kool-Aid drinker, should word-clear it.

    Mythmaking and cognitive dissonance won’t change the facts.
    Cruise may be a Hollywood A-lister. He can’t act worth a damn and he shills for Narconon.

    • aegerprimo

      I wonder, why was Tom Cruise chosen for this project? He is NOT in the same league as the other actors in the series. Even Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp have won/been nominated for the same amount of Oscars, but THEY have actually done good for the world. Johnny Depp with Native American Indians, and Brad Pitt has donated to Doctors Without Borders and AIDS Alliance.

      GRRRR! I am so angry and confused that Tom Cruise has been chosen for the “Anatomy of an Actor” series.
      http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?series_id=851293

      WHY WHY?

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        Well because for one AIDS in,Africa is just a culmination of their reactive mind putting into a state of mind.

      • KNMF

        Yep. It’s aggravating, but take solace in the fact that every smart person knows that Tom Cruise isn’t a great actor, including the other actors in the series and probably most of those involved in the production. TC has to be super gregarious and “sincere” 2/47 so that nobody wants to dish on him.

        I don’t think Cruise has even taken on a serious role that required him to speak with an accent.

        Of course I’ve been out on him since Minority Report.

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      He thinks highly of himself, yes. Elite. Super human, better than the rest.

  • Troy MacGyver SP

    Aren’t ,”original and uncut”,really the sane thing? Since I was clipped at 2 days old,I feel neither complete or uncut.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Not really. The original version of a video is different than the raw video footage used to create it. But Tony didn’t title the video, he just embedded it as it’s a good copy, but it’s not uncut at all. I think it is the “original” copy that was leaked, but It’s only 9 minutes cut from of a much longer cut.

      And being clipped at 2 days old is much better than being clipped 2 days ago.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        I was wondering because he didn’t go into his famous,Sp annoying laughter.

    • Espiando

      A couple of years ago, my mother gave me all my adoption papers, including how much Catholic Charities sold me off for. The little booklet of medical treatments I’d received since birth was among them, and it explicitly mentions my circumcision.

      So, in other words, I have a receipt for my snip. I have some surgery planned at the hospital where I was born in September. I wonder if I can go there, say I’m dissatisfied, and ask for my foreskin back.

      • Mooser

        You are lucky to have a receipt and record of it. Hospitals have been known to do it without even consulting the parents, and of course, nobody ever asks the kid.

        • Espiando

          Except that my birth mother gave up custody of me the moment I came out. Which means that that decision was made without parental input, only those legally acting in loco parentis vis-a-vis me and my dick. Thinking about it, that makes it worse than it is.

          • Mooser

            Yes, that ‘decision’ is often made thoughtlessly, or worse yet, becomes a matter of hospital routine.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        People have taken parent’s to court. Rare but the whole thing can get wacked off or die from infection. One shrink said to just raise her as a girl. She killed herself at 26.Never felt like a girl.

        • D.Y.G.

          The ob/gyn who delivered son #2 was sued a few days after I gave birth for cutting off another baby boy’s penis during a circumcision procedure. I read about it in the newspaper. Not a happy moment.

      • Sandy

        I had a super macho boyfriend in college. When I got a bad yeast infection, the doc asked if my boyfriend was circumcised. When I said no, he told me to have him come in to have that problem fixed. HA! Imagine THAT conversation!

        • TDA1541A

          meh

  • ze moo

    NCAF goes the prweb route and pays to announce their lawsuit against NarCONon. My, how the worm turns…..

    http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2014/05/21/nafc-alleges-narconon-int%25E2%2580%2599l-and-church-scientology-int%25E2%2580%2599l-along-80-other-defendants-misuse

  • NOLAGirl

    I just got back from a function and in conversation I literally used the phrase “….that’s got more holes in it than a Scientology court submission” LOL Oh well, at least the people I was speaking to knew what I was talking about and one very nice lady was aware of Monique’s case, which she said she read about on a placed called “The Underground Bunker” … It appears we’re disseminating. :)

    • Espiando

      Sorry, that was me. I really need to see a urologist.

      • NOLAGirl

        Bahahaha!! If that were you we’d be down the street having drinks right now.

  • aegerprimo

    RED-X Time and time for a Cup ‘o RED-X

    Co$ spam still runs rampant on Craigslist but… the ads are decreasing.
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-82#post-2456422

    For the most impact in the shortest amount of time, flag the newest ads starting here…

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-82#post-2456465

    Thank you Obs for the graphic….

  • Baby

    My daughter and nephew were watching TV in the spare bedroom.. I said, ” What cha watchin? ( and why are you in the bedroom instead of the huge TV in LR..)

    My daughter said..” Mom..go away! You wouldn’t want to watch..” I’m thinking Porn? I couldn’t imagine my buttoned up daughter watching Porn..

    ” Mom I’m serious.. Don’t come in! ”

    Well nosey me.. I pressed on until I found out that they were watching Jerry MaGuire…

    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERGH.. I would rather have them watch Porn..

    • aegerprimo

      SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! ha ha.

      • Baby

        UGH aeger! I can NOT stand the sight of that Poster Boy for Evil.

      • SOL

        Scientology in a nutshell.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Kids, Baby, kids.

      Four year old turns to me today and says
      “Just because you think something is true doesn’t mean it’s true.”

      I ask:
      “So how do you find out if it’s true?”

      Four year old replies:
      “You could ask.”

      “And what if the other person thinks it is true, but it’s not?”

      “You could check and you could test.”

      A four year old has a better grasp of the scientific method than all of Scientology.

      • Baby

        Wow.. That is a great story Pan.. Brilliant child you have! Critical thinking at it’s finest!

      • Frodis73

        That is awesome!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      At least they KNOW you!!!! Good job kiddies.
      Of course they need a bleach bath after Cruise and Preston.

      • Baby

        Hahahahhaha Yep Bury they do!

  • SOL

    “How YouTube and Internet Journalism Destroyed Tom Cruise, Our Last Real Movie Star ”
    YouTube: yeah, OK, it’s mostly ridiculous, but it’s also a powerful medium for the dissemination of true, useful, and important information.
    Internet Journalism: No more or less reputable or reliable than print journalism
    Our Last Real Movie Star: Seriously? Nicholson and the editors (if there really are any) at LA Weekly must have decided it would be good for their careers both in the immediate future an in the long run to blatantly INSULT the people and the institution upon which their careers depend.

  • TDA1541A
    • SOL

      I think someone below mentions the taint of Scientology…

      • Phil McKraken

        Yer funny

  • Cymboli

    “Nicholson is clearly a Cruise fan” I think it goes beyond that. She completely overlooks his narcisissm and obsessive behavior in favor of blaming external sources for Cruise’s decline wreaks of nothing more than emotionalist clap trap. I’m not suprised to be honest. Most people who worship at the altar of celebrity quite often find logic, reason and fact to be inconvient and therefore they abandon them as fast as $cilons do with their boogieman sps.

  • TheCat’sKnees

    Ha!:

    Messing with #Scientology during my lunch break has become my new favorite hobby. Seriously, fuck you… http://t.co/47KUV6yHsy— Troy Murray (@t_mrdr) May 21, 2014

    • TDA1541A

      Anonymous everywhwere

    • Sir_Real

      Achtung $cientology: (refresh)

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    Ryan Hambo with freekin’ lasers on his head!

  • outraged

    What happened to Tommy Boy’s face. It totally changed, metamorphosed.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2634637/Tom-Cruise-grins-leaves-red-hot-celebrity-hangout-Chiltern-Firehouse.html

    Maybe Little Davey ate him, spit him back out as a Cruise-Controlled-Robot handled by the Sea Ogres.

    • aegerprimo

      Who is the “minder” in the gray jacket?

      • Sir_Real

        His latest sweetheart. (SHHHHHH!! Don’t tell Davey.)

    • media_lush

      oops, just posted a pic from this piece I got elsewhere…. didn’t see the close-up …. man, he’s become hideous!!

      • Mooser

        Caption:

        “Fresh faced: It is hard to believe the action star is is 51-years-old going by his youthful complexion.”

        Uh, okay. There’s nothing like a 51-year-old male “action star” with a “youthful complexion”.

      • Sir_Real

        Maybe his plastic surgeon belongs to WISE, that would help explain.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Are the brilliant Brazilians suckered into WiSE? God I hope not.
          I think that is where he gets his touch ups.
          I almost went there myself. They are the best.
          And guess what?
          They are WOGS!!!

          • Troy MacGyver SP

            I lived in ,Rio as a kid and they’ll give money to,God,fourtue tellers…And yet most can’t afford to eat. Very sad:(

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              and yet they got the best of the best Plastic surgeons…………? go figure?

            • Troy MacGyver SP

              I’ve seen some disasters. No,butcher jobs.

            • Sir_Real

              And inequality in Rio is a very deep and wide chasm from what I can gather from the here-say net.

          • Sir_Real

            And I thought South American countries had the highest rates of cosmetic surgery. I was wrong according to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/23/countries-with-most-plastic-surgery_n_1446918.html

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            Yes, that Brazilian. What’s the doc’s name?
            But he probably gets his fillers in the good ol’ USA like everybody else. And fillers are the devil. They seem to be like eating peanuts – once someone starts using fillers, they use more….and more….and more….and suddenly they look like a Real Housewife.

      • TDA1541A

        “And Tom Cruise showed up, and correct me if I am wrong, but he isn’t in
        the movie, right? But for some reason there is more pictures of him than
        anyone else at the premiere. Oh well…as my husband just said on his way
        out the door “Where there’s Cruise, there’s news”. So, there ya have
        it. Oh! And Xenu buddy Jenna Elfman was there too..Coincidence? I think
        not.”

        https://fckwhatyouheard.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/super-8-finally-premiered/

        https://fckwhatyouheard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tom-cruise-elle-fanning.jpg

        • Captain Howdy

          Maybe Tom thinks if he get’s ‘em younger they’ll be more receptive to playing “Tickle Me Xenu”….Run Elle Run!

        • D.Y.G.

          They filmed that movie locally. I thought it was great, and not only because Tom Cruise isn’t in it.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ruh roh!………….I am having a “covert Pedophile moment”

          Oh, wait….sorry………..I just channeled Jada Smith for a moment…..

          Note to self….stop drinking on weeknights.

      • Observer

        He wasn’t great to begin with, but at least nobody would have mistaken him for someone’s grandma before.

      • Sir_Real

        Main picture in this set is his most matronly **tee hee**

    • Sir_Real

      His body thetans have metastasized so much they’re disfiguring his face!

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Subtitle from The Mail to some of the photos:

      “Tom thumb: The pint-sized star wore a pair of impressively chunky shoes for his London outing”

      They have no idea – the lifts have to be 4 inches in those things.

    • NOLAGirl

      Ugh. Why is he so sweaty?

      • Sir_Real

        Niacin!

    • Frodis73

      He looks really bad. Maybe he’s on steroids or something; he has that puffy look about him. Lol about his minder…he can’t go anywhere alone. Geez, the comments are a love fest over there too. Wish I could educate them a bit.

      • Jgg2012

        Maybe all that blue asbestos from the freewinds.

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Yeah I thought steroids, too. That ‘moonfaced’ when all your facial weight pools around your jowls.

    • RMycroft

      That’s not even his final form…

  • media_lush

    latest pic of Cruise in London…… (god he looks bleurgh,like a middle aged lesbian, ed)

    • TDA1541A

      He is out of eggs

    • media_lush

      this is not the face of a man who who’s going to filming MI5 any day soon…. and especially not his own stunts

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Hey…That is my chin!
        I want both of them back right the fuck now!!!!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Headed to Stage One Liberace, I see.

      • TDA1541A

        Maybe he is on meds

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Oy! Look at that double chin! That’s a moonface thing going. Could he be on steroids? Either that or he’s really let himself go.

        Also I think there’s been a little too much overdoing it w/fillers. See, here’s where he’s going wrong. As an ‘action hero’ (cough cough), he doesn’t need to be a pretty boy in his 50’s. He can start to age naturally now and work the ‘rugged’ thing more. Instead, he’s fighting to retain his 35 year old face. That’s a very slippery slope to go down…right, Bruce Jenner?

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Pinch nose and say “These cobbled side walks sure are tricky.” followed by unintelligible geek noises.

      • Elar Aitch

        in lifts

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Is he growing babymaker hips?
      Are those mom jeans?

      • Sir_Real

        “Child-bearing” hips LMFAO!

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        ‘lil dm was hard on his rectum last night;Bought a dildo to try and spice things up.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          UR bad! cheers :-)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Oh my sainted grandma. The first thing I thought when I saw this was “MOM JEANS.”

        You beat me to it.

      • OrangySky

        He’s always had a weird, ‘hippy’ kind of body, hasn’t he? And short legs.

  • Observer

    Yikes

  • TDA1541A
    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Wow. Has anyone ever noticed that one of his upper incisors is in the middle of his face? That’s crazy.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I think it is an evolutionary adaptation, optimizing out of a long line of pillow biters and duvet munchers. Obviously it must serve some survival function.

        • flyonthewall

          You are all just a bunch of degraded beings and haters trying to tear down this obviously BIG BEING who has just jumped a rung in the evolutionary ladder. Mid-face upper incisors are the equivalent to fire for the cavemen but you wouldn’t understand that cuz you’re all just a bunch of DB SP MF’s!

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            I think we ought to revisit this term DB. Ostensibly it means “Degraded Being.”

            “Degraded” usually refers to a reduction of something to it’s component parts, its more primary elements.

            Thus a “degraded” sample of rock might be observed as the separate mineral components, the more primal elements of it’s once complex makeup.

            Just so, a “Degraded Being” might be envisioned as a being who is stripping off all the additives of Quintillions of years of existence in the physical universe and approaching something closer to the much desired “Native State.”

            One could argue that the processes of scientology are designed to reduce the complexity and confusion of a being so that they can become more singular and elemental. Thus a true “Native State” being would also be the most degraded.

            As an SP 5, I want to thank you for your recognition of my essential nature.

            • flyonthewall

              I guess that’s like when the gangsta rappers call themselves and eachother n*&^ers? Way to take ownership of the slur and turn it around Mike! Now it’s time to turn Wog into a compliment. Who’s down for a trip to southeast asia with me so we can get this started?

            • flyonthewall

              “One could argue that the processes of scientology are designed to reduce the complexity and confusion of a being so that they can become more singular and elemental.’ – You almost had it 100% however the processes of scientology are designed to make the being more singularly and elementally Hubbardian and nothing else :)

            • TDA1541A
        • Sir_Real

          It’s the Xenu Chromosome that dictates this dental abnormality. Pillow biting/duvet munching only accentuates this quirk.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          The Sabre-Toothed $cientologist, during the Beringanian Epoch, ruled the vast wastes over which it prowled.
          The Wooly Mammoth (subsequently devolved into the Floridian Clearwater Whale) lived in abject fear of the Lesser Spotted Regging variant of aforesaid Sabre-Toothed Unspeakable.
          Palaentologists surmise that the absence of prey, due to over-hunting, led to the limited numbers of the Strange-Toothed One to be found today.
          Fossilized ivory deposits in the Yukon and Eastern Siberia lead us to conclude that while it was a good run for a particularly dumb and strangely fanged beast, the species will not, in fact, survive.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            I suppose the native range of the species can be determined by the presence of the distinctive grooves found in the preferred soft tufa floors of its usual habitats often formed alongside ancient geothermal pools where similarly inclined males would engage in courtship displays and pseudo-mating rituals.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              I have to regrettably inform you that due to habitat destruction, mating displays recently observed on the Oprah Show will unfortunately be rarely, if ever, seen again.
              Gene samples will be stored in special vaults in New Mexico in platinum cases.
              A few members of the species will be kept in confinement to allow further studies of pathology.
              A dwarf variant has been reported in California but NEVER in Texas.
              It is presently pickled in alcohol.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Ahhh. An interesting vector for self-preservation.

      • richelieu jr

        Have I seen it?

        I have spent the last 25 years flipping out about it!

        Once seen it cannot be unseen! I cannot believe how many people seem not to notice this! I have even made diagrams showing this beyond a shadow of a doubt!

        • richelieu jr

          To wit:

    • media_lush

      superb pic…. you can actually see the crazy oozing from his pores

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      THIS ^^^^ cannot be unseen!

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        It’s the,Niacin! Or overdose of Niacin. Or had an allergic reaction to the lube ,’lil used on his dildo.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Quick and stupid story……..
          This is leftover influence from my youth…GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

          I met my future husband and he told me he was worried about his health, cholesteral, bP, etc.
          Nothing really wrong with him at the time…just hitting the forties.

          What did I do? I recommended high quantities of Niacin.
          I won’t even get into the aftermath…..but tonight…..about fifteen years later….we laughed like hell about it…………and him thinking he needed to call 911 because he turned beet red.

          I know it is not really funny……..but god……..I was so STUPID!!!!!

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            That is kinda funny actually. Why did you think that niacin would help?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              For the same reason that CAL MAG, Wheatgrass and an E-meter would help.
              Cuz someone in “Authority” said it was so…………….

              I have been banging my forehead for the last thirty years!!!!

              Oh, and also,….Psychs are evil. Lobototomies and ECT for everybody!!!! yay!

              It is all a lie, followed by a LIE…………………AND A LIE.
              SCIENTOLOGY, HUBBARD AND MISCAVIGE ALL SUCK.

              *** Please note sarcasm where applicable.

            • Aslansown

              Yeah — because they do so many lobotomies nowadays!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              And yet …you have no idea how Horrified of an ice-pick being thrust into my brain I was around 1970…

              I need some backup here, Ex Sciloons….?????????

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Now you would surely prefer a bottle in front of you to a frontal lobotomy.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Exactly. And totally relavent….;)

              Spelling…./.meh.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              I was more afraid of ECT, since there seemed to be few lobotomies since the ’50s.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              But we were living in “Southern Utah”. We were a bit behind.
              and my dear mother was always about 5-10 behind.
              Hell, she didn’t know Hubbard was on the boat till 68.
              Snail mail moves slow in UTAH!!!!

            • Aslansown

              I believe it! I thought everything in Cuckoo’s Nest was the way it was!

            • Aslansown

              I wasn’t making fun of you — just that they continue to talk about that . Sorry if it sounded that way.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              No…You gave me a jump point…………:-)

            • DeElizabethan

              Ya, back in the ’70’s things were different. My aunt had shock treatments and never was the same. Those ice pick stories and pictures scared me too. Could agree how evil it was. But times did change and it wasn’t as proliferous as stated. (little wine affected here on the proliferous). And they did end that practice. But, the scio are stuck in those years and all Hub-boreds shit, they still believe. They really need to wake up to reality.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              You shouldn’t do the sarcasm that is what the OSA does. Or so I’ve been told.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Niacin: Good for what ails ya!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              bite me, DDD. :-)

          • Troy MacGyver SP

            Where you in the caustic cult at the time?

    • Observer

      Why does he always look like a maniac when he tries to project happiness and excitement?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        um, well…You know……………

        • Observer

          I do. I just felt the need to verbalize it, or write it down, or something.

      • Zana

        Yes. A bit of hysteria.

      • Sejanus

        Because he is a maniac….just sayin’

  • ScooterLibbby

    I’d forgotten about this one, because the others just got so much more time everywhere.
    It’s that maniacal laugh that gets to me, that’s far worse than his delusions of grandeur where he says he can fix people just by looking at them & seeing what’s wrong with them.
    He hasn’t cured cancer & he can’t seem to cure his short stature, so he wears custom shoes with lifts.

    • LBJ All The Way!

      Hey, where’s your proof that I’m Brian Gilbert, bro?

      • ScooterLibbby

        Oh goodie, Brian Gilbert is stalking me!
        Keep wasting your time Brian, you CPA biz will suffer & the state will revoke your license.

        • Mooser

          Who’s Brian Gilbert? Will Google tell me?

          • LBJ All The Way!

            They doxed the wrong guy and this fellow fell for it.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Even if that were true, and I have no idea one way or the other, why did you follow ScooterLibby here to further your complaints? No one on this board cares about your squabble.

            • LBJ All The Way!

              No one forced you to get involved, bro.

            • Espiando

              Your presence got us involved. We don’t tolerate provocateurs here, unless said provocateur is known and has a good track record here. You don’t.

              And if you call anyone “bro” again, I’ll kick your fucking teeth in.

            • Nixon Now!

              Whatever you say, bro.

            • Captain Howdy

              read the previous comments elsewhere. 26

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I read some of them. You prolly right, bro.

          • Espiando

            No, but I can. By the way, his claim that “they doxed the wrong guy” is true in the sense that his last name was misspelled.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          This is exactly why I set my Disqus profile to private. I suggest you do the same.

        • LBJ All The Way!

          Feel free to make a formal complaint, brozef.

  • noseinabk

    Someone is already trying to sell a used (french) copy of her book. None of these books has done well on Amazon.
    http://www.amazon.com/Tom-Cruise-Amy-Nicholson/dp/2866429346/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1400712142&sr=1-4

    • Missionary Kid

      In counterpoint, it is $60.00.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      The book will be released in July.

      • Espiando

        Well, that Amazon link said it was released last week. Guess the French version came out early. And why a respectable publication held in esteem by cineastes as Cahiers du Cinema would have anything to do with Nicholson’s trash is beyond me.

  • Missionary Kid

    OT. The L.A. Times is going after Donald Sterling. I wish they’d go after $cientology the same way, like they did Ex-Los Angeles Sheriff, Lee Baca and now Sterling, who made the front page headlines again.

    The report that Sterling’s wife is estranged from him is just a ruse. The attempt to have everyone around him to help him keep the team smacks of a Co$ type of cover-up. His problem is that he doesn’t have the fear among and control over the people under him that dm does. http://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-me-nba-sterling-charges-20140521-story.html#page=1

    • Science Doc

      Sterling used to buy half page ads about his wonderful (and largely fake) humanitarian acts in the LA Times at least once a week. Otherwise half page ads about his apartment buildings. They all looked like they had been pasted together by a child or an 80 year old narcissist. Some of the bathing suit models on the apartment ads were stock photos with watermarks clearly visible. My guess is that he paid for about 1% of the ad revenue in the Times, maybe more. I think it might have bought him some cover for a while. A year or two ago his son was found dead with a needle in his arm. The Sterlings spun it as complications from diabetes. Yep, plus heroin.

      • Sir_Real

        I could swear that narcissistic old toad is either a disciple of El Ron Hippo and/or Anton La Vey. Perhaps he is just a god unto himself.

  • media_lush
  • richelieu jr

    FWIW, the publicity Edge of Tomorrow is getting here in France, even in the in-house
    publicity magazines for the cinemas, is about his decline and its
    relation to Scientology. I kid you not.

    I would translate for everyone, but I am way too busy right now…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Do want!

      • richelieu jr

        Yeah, I’d love to translate it—

        Are there any other Frenchies on this list besides me?

        If not, contact me off-list 3D, and I’ll see what I can do…

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Watching that Tom Cruise video is always fun, but I think I must being going soft on these celebrity idiots in the cult. When I watched that video just now, Tom did not seem so much egotistical and manic, as he did desperate and conflicted, and trying to hide that. The main thing that stood out for me is that Tom very obviously does not believe what he is saying. Some of the time, he is clearly reciting from a script in his mind — talking points he has memorized and intended to include in this little talk. He very much wants to believe what he is saying — like a lot of actors, there is an overweening narcissism in Tom that needs some constant feedback from the world that yes, you are special. Oh so special. All eyes should be on you, you deserve it. But Tom knows better. The whole premise of this “Freedom Medal of Valor for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence” is that Tom is famous, and famous people get a lot of attention, so lets all give him a hand for being famous and flogging scientology as well! I can see the appeal for a person who needs an inflated sense of self-importance that is not dependent on the latest box office figures. Yes, he lucked up and got famous, but what he has chosen to do with that fame is what makes him a hero in his own mind.

    The thing is, when folks watch this stuff — Tom extolling the power of KSW, or jumping on Oprah’s couch — they react to it negatively because it doesn’t ring true. That is why Tom comes across as loony in this video, and he seemed mad rather than madly in love on Oprah — the strain of pumping himself up over something that he does not really believe is palpable. Even if you don’t have any familiarity with NLP, or reading “tells” in Poker, or conducting interrogation or intake interviews, most people still pick up on that tension. It is uncomfortable to witness, and we recoil without really knowing why. The person “just seems crazy” or they “reek of bullshit”, or whatever language we might use to describe it. We are describing that strain that is obvious in a person who is desperate to convince. That is what i see here in Tom. And I suspect that the person he is most trying to convince is himself.

    And his buddy David. Although this whole little talk that Tommy gave does beg the question: if he doesn’t hesitate to put ethics in on anyone, why doesn’t he put ethics in on the jerk he hangs out with all the time? Or, does he really believe that slapping people around, passing the buck, and self-aggrandizement are the behaviors of an ethical person? Probably — David said it, and Tommy believes it. Or, tries to anyway. Tom Cruise — why don’t you stop swallowing bullshit, and get the hell out of the cult before it is too late to salvage any of the admiration from the world that you rely on to survive? You would instantly become a media darling, and people would rave about your honesty and courage in admitting what a big mistake you made for so long. The hottest story these days is how much scientology sucks, and how weird David Miscavige is — get out in front of that thing and make the most of it!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      First…
      I always love your point of view.

      Second…
      So basically TC is the Lindsay Lohan of respectable action films….Just substitute “your drug of choice” + low to middling medium IQ and narcissism here.

      Note to Tom:
      Narcissus died. He didn’t come back as a body thetan or an OTVIII….

      Yep, …true fact……….don’t believe that Grant Cardone dude. He lies!!!!

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        I dunno… After hearing Grant Cardone’s thoughts on Jesus, I came to realize that Mr. Cardone is simply waaayyy ahead of his time… Scholars and historians in the future will surely note that Jesus was a playa and the true Golden Rule is “Let’s Roll, Brotha.”
        http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2014/05/14/scientology-otviii-grant-cardone-on-jesus/

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I….
          Much like your average Sciloontolgist………….shield myself from Entheta.
          (Ain’t NO WAY I am gonna look!!!)

        • Captain Howdy

          I’m guessing Grant never read the New Testament and all those socialist like sentiments that Jesus was always laying on his bros.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Paging Implant Station Chief:
            Please remove EVIL Captain Howdy from the building.

            NO SOUP FOR YOU!!! ;-)

            Ok…Yes…..I buzzed.

            • Captain Howdy

              Whaaaaat? I know good stuff when i see it.. even if it comes from the competition.

    • IBBy

      You put what I was trying to articulate in such a great form that I deleted the comment I was typing. Thanks for sharing!

    • Sunny Sands

      TC may deny lots of what goes on, but he must see that Shelly is not with DM anymore, and has disappeared from public life. And if he doesn’t hesitate to put ethics in on anyone, that should be at the top of the list.

      • Sir_Real

        Their meaning of “ethics” has nothing to do with the Wog definition, apparently. Ethics to them must mean anything that protects the Cult, it’s dogma and COB from any disparagement or even the slightest perception of it.

        • Mooser

          A ethics violation, as we have seen, would be to keep on asking about Shelly when you don’t have the rank to do so. All backwards.

    • Jgg2012

      Exactly. People do cartwheels and other things spontaneously because they are genuinely excited. It looks sincere. But here is TC jumping, pounding the floor, making faces, shaking Oprah, jumping again, raising his fist, etc. etc. It takes effort to be that over the top, like there is something fake about the relationship.

      • BosonStark

        Tom thought it would be a great publicity stunt, and would get everyone talking about him and how crazy in love he is with #3. Since #3 escaped, with his spawn, no less, most people have subtracted the “in love” part.

    • outraged

      ” Tom Cruise — why don’t you stop swallowing bullshit, and get the hell out of the cult before it is too late to salvage any of the admiration from the world that you rely on to survive? “

      **Audience on feet clapping hands**

      For a while I had some hope that Mr. Cruise would come to his senses but now I believe he is so completely brainwashed there is no way on earth or on the moon he will ever back away from his precious Cult. He is a coward, unfortunately for everyone especially his daughter.

    • SOL

      Yes, he’s noticeably inarticulate given the fact that he’s talking about something he says is so important. Either he forgot his lines, or someone made the mistake of thinking he could improvise. Of course, the video was shot for an audience of Scientologists — people trained to accept baseless propaganda as fact.

  • NOLAGirl

    Someone on WWP posted the Co$ PR pictures from their event in L.A. that we were trying to guess the chair count on (last post on the thread). Of course, they didn’t show a full picture, wouldn’t want the clams to see anymore empty seats than are already in the picture.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/scientology-los-angeles-event-this-saturday-5-17-14.118472/

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      They used up all the chairs (that are in the photo)!!! An ass for every seat! An ass for every seat!!

      • NOLAGirl

        I saw some empty seats on the right hand side of the photo. I’ts just a small group of empties, maybe they were exterior. :)

      • Panopea Abrupta

        IS-ASSness to Tone-40

  • aegerprimo

    RED X RED X RED X

    Help flag Co$ ads on Craigslist.

    Pick a city. To flag the ads click PROHIBITED at the top of the ad, and change it to say FLAGGED.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-82#post-2456422

  • SOL

    Shoopers: please oh please oh please work your magic with the Pouncing Tom image from the LA Weekly article!

  • SOL

    What’s the likelihood that Amy Nicholson will respond to any of the negative responses to her article? Isn’t that something reputable journalists typically do to maintain their credibility? And what’s the likelihood that any of Tom’s supporters will respond in any intelligent, constructive way to the comments from his detractors? (I’d post this there but I don’t want to sign up with any of the social media sites I’d need to sign up with.)

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      who?

      • SOL

        Sorry to be so thick, but I don’t know what you mean. You mean who are his supporters? Church members and/or idiots, I suppose.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ok, I am daft? His? Hers?
          Help me…..?
          I just want to help!!!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            They are talking about the comment thread on the LA Weekly article by Amy Nicholson.

          • SOL

            Sorry… My comment was just my usual snarkiness. Please disregard. :-)

  • outraged

    I give up. What is growing on Travolta’s chin – is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s super scrub brush to the rescue.

    Even more important – what is he covering up? Nude tattoo of davey’s butt hole?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2635618/John-Travolta-gives-enthusiastic-thumbs-wife-Kelly-Preston-glammed-attend-exclusive-party-Cannes-calendar.html

    • SOL

      I think his wig maker had a bit of synthetic hair left over and said “Hey John, I know what we could do!”

      • outraged

        it looks like his chin has a hairy spike.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          It’s a chin merkin.

          • Sir_Real

            Mea culpa, you already beat me to it. My apologies.

          • Baby

            Michael Leonard Tilse! Jeeze..hahahhaa

    • Sir_Real

      It is a mini-merkin.

    • media_lush

      this was arriving with his blond haired son… the one who doesn’t look anything like his former son or daughter…

      • TDA1541A

        A gift from Cadet Org ?

    • media_lush

      ….

      • TDA1541A

        nice

  • Zana

    Is anyone else having difficulty getting their messages? I get a message saying “Forbidden.” HELP.

    • Sir_Real

      Yep now I see what everybody why everybody was bitching about Disq-Gust…I’ve grown to loathe them.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Yep , earlier A few times

    • Observer

      Yes, I’ve had it all day on every device.

      • aegerprimo

        On every device on all types of browsers. 403 Forbidden.

    • Robert Eckert

      When I get the “Forbidden” from clicking on a Notification (or also clicking on a time-stamp to make it show a picture), what I do is highlight the URL in the browser bar, open a new window, and cut-the-paste the URL to the new window, then for some reason it will let me see.

      • Zana

        Thank you. ! This helps!

  • Sir_Real

    Disqus sucks dicks on Hollywood Blvd.

    • aegerprimo

      DSCOHB….?

      Well it is not doing it on my blvd. I mean WTF? 403 Forbidden

      Off to empty cache and reboot as Capt. Howdy suggests.

  • Sir_Real

    Max Spaceman where are you and can you help us fix the extraterrestrial based and/or Teegeeack based workings that drive the Disqus Monster?

    • Captain Howdy

      empty cache and reboot.

  • Baby

    Karen fabulous video..You are getting better and better ..Great background..Jillian you are rockin it!

  • Bavarian Rage

    Sheesh! Morbid curiosity just took me back through the entire 4-part YouTube video on TC’s medal of valor award. At the very end Mini-scavige states that …(blah blah blah)…”rests on a few slim shoulders – overworked, under paid…”

    Colossal understatement of the year if you apply it to the plight of the Sea Org.

    Gag! Had seen that video a time or two before, but it never fails to leave incredulously slack jawed!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology: The Charge of the Blight Brigade

  • Panopea Abrupta

    El Wretch, the Turd from Tilden: He wanted to be a Spoiled Buddha but unfortunately he looked like a Boiled Spuddah

    • aegerprimo

      ROFL!
      …..

  • Panopea Abrupta

    “If you always tell the truth, you will be found out sooner or later.”
    Oscar Wilde

    Hubbard must have known this quote of Wilde’s and decided to never take the risk.

  • aegerprimo

    WTF? Is the Co$ doing some kind of MLM scam through the Idle Morgue? What do y’all make of this article through PR web.

    First Aquapol Device in the Americas Installed at Nashville Church of Scientology
    http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2014/05/21/first-aquapol-device-americas-installed-nashville-church-scientology

    The historic Fall School Building in Nashville, currently home for the Church of Scientology, was the site of the first installation in all of the Americas. Pastor of the Church Rev. Brian Fesler said, “We recognize our building is a Nashville treasure, and we are doing everything we can to preserve it for the community to enjoy.” The Church of Scientology received a Historical Preservation Award from the Metro Nashville Historical Commission in 2010.

    In recent years, the achievements of Aquapol and its inventor, Wilhelm Mohorn, have received several national and international awards: the Honorary Award from the Austrian Ministry of Science, the Kaplan Medal, which is bestowed to inventors, and the Architecture Award of the City of Prague, are among them.

    • Aslansown

      Just read this: Owner of Aquapol is Wilhelm Mohorn, a member of Scientology. https://www.mywot.com/en/forum/8184-a-little-bit-red-for-a-scientology-business

    • Panopea Abrupta

      A toxic pseudo-science scam.
      The guy is a $cilon who has discovered a phenomenal (and very expensive) “free” energy.
      Wanna watch someone lie through his eyeballs to pay for a bridge in Florida?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG1rWBqTWw0

      Been sued in Europe, obviously he is aiming for legal problems in North America too.

      • aegerprimo

        Ha ha!
        What a dumb ass to have the contact info as
        scientology DOT org

    • Aslansown

      “Pastor of the Church Rev. Brian Fesler” – please. Do they usually refer to “pastors” in the cult?

      • Tipster

        Yes. they take a 2 hour course to become ministers….purely for the tax benefits

      • aegerprimo

        No. Even a Scientologist who has completed the Volunteer Minister training does not go by “pastor” or “reverend.” Is the Co$ getting VERY desperate about hiding under the guise of a church and using this type of nomenclature now? I mean is it now “ecclesiastical” to call leaders of the Co$ such words?

        • Aslansown

          Yeah – “pastor” was the part I hadn’t heard before. That seems to be deliberate misdirection.

          • aegerprimo

            I agree.

            The whole article stinks of misdirection.

        • Espiando

          Hasn’t The Flagrant Alcoholic Dave Petit used “reverend” in some of the Sunday Funnies and the bumf posted at Das Rinderblog?

          • Panopea Abrupta

            When the “Yes, we are a bona-fide religion” crap was in full sail.
            Alan Walters w cross and collar.

            • Sir_Real

              He was certainly no Vicar of Dibley.

            • TDA1541A

              “So now I am all fancy pancy can somebody direct me to the young lads”

          • aegerprimo

            I missed that!

        • RMycroft

          There’s a Ministers’ course, mainly for auditors (so they can claim the PC folders are privileged) and PR hacks.

          Up until recently, it was a 900 minute (15 hour) course on how to act religious-y.

  • Tipster

    Davey shooped himself into the pic. The original was this: (image refresh)

    • TDA1541A

      DM is outside the frame of this picture oiling himself up for Tom

  • California

    RE: The Tom Cruise viral video.

    There were FOUR videos, encompassing 40 minutes of the rants. The one posted here was the most uninteresting to me…. it was just Tom ranting.

    This one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmsOtoXwGS0 Tom Cruise Scientology #3/4 is one of the most interesting because it shows Cruise (at 7:41) in the “Corridors of Power” with the worst Sec’y of Education we have had in a century: Rod Paige. And there at 7:51 we have SCN’er John Danielson (at the time the Chief of Staff to Paige) lying his head off that there Tom was with “huge books I had never seen before” all about LRH, learning, education, study tech, applied scholastics, etc., being spread around the world. The NASA stuff is all a lie, as well. And the NYFD segment after 9/11 is just too sad for words.

    Bush has a lot to answer for.

    • Nixon Now!

      “worst Sec’y of Education we have had in a century”

      The United States Department of Education has only been around for 35 years, bro.

      • California

        There were precursors under different names before that.

        • Nixon Now!

          They split HEW into HHS and Department of Education, but HEW started in 1953.

          • Espiando

            I told you, cock-nobbler, if you want your mother and/or poodle to give you a blowjob, you should bathe for once in your misbegotten life.

            • Nixon Now!

              I bathe on a daily basis.

            • Espiando

              Yeah, if it’s a day on Venus. You fucking stink, and even your fellow accountants think you’re a fucking hopeless case. Now tell your poodle that you’re sorry for smelling worse than a tin of his food.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Try sulfuric acid, you racist twat.

            • Nixon Now!

              Nitric is better.

            • Espiando

              12 molar, in your eyes…no, too gentle, I’m afraid.

            • Nixon Now!

              Yeah, right.

      • Espiando

        She’s talking the State of California, you stupid little fucking piece of shit.

        Get ready to have your teeth turned into paste, cock-nobbler.

        • Nixon Now!

          The Scientologists have nothing on you, bro.

          • Espiando

            Damn right they don’t. That’s why they didn’t go after me when my identity became known to them in 2008. Now go shove some cat food up your ass so your Siamese can give you your nightly rimjob.

            • Nixon Now!

              I take it that you’re a Unitarian now?

            • Espiando

              Better than being a Eunuch-tarian like you, you ball-less impotent freak.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m an atheist.

            • Espiando

              You’re dogmeat if you stick around here.

            • Nixon Now!

              How so?

        • California

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education

          First Dept. of Ed was created in 1867 but demoted to an Office in 1868, in the Department of the Interior. But its function has remained the same. So more than a century…. 147 years to be exact. Paige was the worst in 147 years.

          • Nixon Now!

            Yeah, and George Washington was in charge of the USAF.

            • Espiando

              In our alternate universe of the Bunker, da Vinci’s flying machines were actually made. So, yeah, he was. Now fuck off, accountant.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m not an accountant, bro, but I respect the profession.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Respect?
              Then fuck off back to Chicago, you disrespectful arsehole.

            • Espiando

              Oh, don’t tell me that he’s here, Pan. Don’t tell me he’s only a short drive away. Don’t tell me I can do this in the meat world too. And I think most people here know that when I mention meat, they know I own certain equipment.

            • Nixon Now!

              Stop by anytime!

            • Espiando

              With my very, very sharp knives. And, yes, I have no respect for human life either. Especially since you were doxed earlier on. I can find you. And I can hurt you. Very, very badly.

              You have one chance to leave. Take it.

            • Nixon Now!

              Come and get me.

            • Espiando

              Work or home? I’ve got both addresses.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m already in Chicago.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Stay there.
              South Side?

            • Nixon Now!

              You figure it out.

            • Espiando

              Oh, he dare not contaminate the sacred ground that sprung me. It’ll have to be a purifying blood sacrifice.

            • Espiando

              No, afraid not. Our boy is a little rich bitch. Near North Side, in fact.

            • Espiando

              I don’t. I respect no one. And I will respond to everything you type in and get even more down and dirty. Insomnia is a good thing sometimes.

              And you are an accountant, a form of life so low that insurance salesman use you for doormats. Go smear Nutella on your nipples and attempt to stick yourself on a wall.

            • Nixon Now!

              Sorry, but I’m not an accountant, but I am an expert in risk management and financial derivatives.

            • Espiando

              So you don’t actually do anything beneficial for humanity. Nice to know that.

            • Nixon Now!

              I pay enough taxes to cover your Social Security disability check.

            • Espiando

              I make six figures too. I just don’t waste my money on an apartment that lets me masturbate to the near-naked people on Oak Street Beach.

            • Mooser

              “I respect no one”

              Espi, it is sadly obvious who you respect least of all.

            • Espiando

              That would be you when you go off on jags like this, Mooser.

          • Nixon Now!

            The Office of Education was a small unit whose existence overlapped with HEW.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Pity no one ever gave you much of an education.

            • Nixon Now!

              I graduated magna cum laude from a top school.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Magna cum alright.
              Fuck off, you troll.

            • Nixon Now!

              Care to tell me the second derivative of a parabola?

            • Panopea Abrupta

              A troll with an eliptical arsehole.
              How fucking derivative do you want to be, cos you are about as standard as it gets?

            • Nixon Now!

              Guess that I’m smarter than you, eh?

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Keep guessing, Mensa member.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m eligible, but I wouldn’t join it.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Mensa is so fucking weak. Wouldn’t join any club that would have you, eh?
              But you are eligible for arsehole of the week cum laude at the Bunker.
              Now fuck off and rip some old lady out of her pension money.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m not in the pension business.

            • Espiando

              No. Belvedere Trading doesn’t do pensions, do they?

            • Espiando

              For a standard parabolic equation of y=x^2+ax+b, dy/dx=2x+a, so d(dy/dx)/dx=2.

              My physics degree from The University of Chicago comes in handy sometimes.

            • Espiando

              Stanford. Not as good as The University of Chicago, I’m afraid.

            • Gabbyone

              A dirty rat lying WISE dentist who uses fair-gaming, bull-baiting, and gas lighting on his patients is a part-time professor at U of C. That is what a celebrity connection buys you. Easy to see why it is just a two star dental school. It should be zero stars.

            • Troy MacGyver SP

              Nu,is though. Northwestern

        • Nixon Now!

          Paige was United States Secretary of Education during GWB’s first term and never had much to do with California in particular.

          • Espiando

            It’s an example of your sad, pathetic accountant life that you’d know cabinet members of the worst president in living memory.

            • Nixon Now!

              I’m not an accountant, but I do remember the recent past.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Anything past 5 minutes is a lifetime for a troll.

              Ever tried picking up your teeth with broken fingers?

            • Nixon Now!

              Now you’re getting me excited.

            • Espiando

              Pan is giving you a chance to keep your fingers. I won’t give you that chance.

            • Nixon Now!

              You guys are too much.

            • Espiando

              You haven’t seen anything yet, oogums.

            • Nixon Now!

              Talk is cheap.

            • Espiando

              As cheap as your hat?

            • TDA1541A

              zip it shrimpy

            • Espiando

              Was that directed at me or the troll? Just asking, since the situation’s been resolved.

          • California

            Not true that he had little to do with California. California (and Texas) were the testing grounds for NCLB, charter schools, Supplemental Educational Services (which snuck in Applied Scholastics at $30 to $80 per hour per child paid to the organizations) and other challenges to public education, including Narconon Drug Education. Please read Nanette Asimov’s 12 articles in the archive section of the San Francisco Chronicle and go see the California Dept. of Ed findings rejecting Narconon Drug Education for California public and charter schools: http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/at/narcononevaluation.asp

            • Nixon Now!

              Another stretch,

        • Mooser

          She’s talking the State of California, you stupid little fucking piece of shit.
          Get ready to have your teeth turned into paste, cock-nobbler.”

          Why do you let everyone lead you around by the nose? Why on earth do you go exactly where they want you to? Do you have no more on the ball than that?

          “Get ready to have your teeth turned into paste, cock-nobbler”

          Oh, for Gawd’s sake. Get a grip! Over the Internet? (BTW, Espi, Disqus says “cock-nobbler” is a misspelling. You might want to check on it.)

          Jesus, Espi, you could at least cut out the homophobic insults and threats. What the heck is that all about? Are you that eager to make a fool of yourself? You don’t think it says a lot more about you than the person you are talking to?

          This is just sad, Just friggin sad. Yeah, yeah, I know Espi, you’re gonna “turn my teeth to paste” Over the Internet.

          • Espiando

            Don’t argue with results. It worked.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          I’m giving you an up vote for cock-nobbler.
          I need a new curse word to use.

  • Troy MacGyver SP

    Jillian should put out a film/documentary,to get the fucking word out. I like how she is just DONE,with this bullshit. Smarter than she ever knows.

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      We could get cranky,Mosser to play, Davey. Baby, to play his, Lou. Shelly,well is locked up so it’ll cut down own cost. Espi would be,LRH or Quitin. Blown 4 good should,Headly would be a great as,Matt Damon and his lovely wife,Nicole Kidman!. I’ll play a 10 year,RPF’er. And the rest of the cast will be from,The night of the living dead! Tony wil just play tony!

      • Espiando

        I’ll play LRH, but it’s going to be LRH as done by Philip Seymour Hoffman. I’m not shaving the ‘stache.

        • VickiStubing

          Stop complaining and take your pills.

      • Baby

        LOU???????? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

        Do I have to Kiss DM? … ugh, ugh, ugh… Yuck..

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          o,hell no; never sees her.

          • Baby

            Thank God! Maybe he would only see the top of my head……..bawwwwwhahaha

    • aegerprimo

      Yes. We have all been distracted by Tom Cruise today at the Bunker.

      Jillian is amazing. Jillian is a REAL hero. No acting. She is real.

  • California

    Updates on the Narconon Drug Education scam helped by the former Chief of Staff SCN’er John Danielson to the Sec’y of Education Rod Paige in the SFUSD:

    Former president of the SFUSD BOE Jill Wynn (married to acknowledged SCN’er George Wynn and a leader in bringing Narconon Drug Education into the SFUSD as early as 1991) is still on the SFUSD Board of Education but does nothing to support SCN in public ed any longer.

    • Robert Eckert

      “SFUSD” = “San Francisco Unified School District”??

      • California

        Yes!

  • California

    And Trish Bascom (Head of Student Health Program back in 2000-2006) ARRESTED in the Spring of 2013 on 94 counts of fraud and misappropriating funds alone from the SFUSD, totaling $15M with her colleagues. She protected Narconon Drug Education at the behest of the late friend of Jeff Quiros (head of SF Org) Superintendent Arlene Ackerman, one of the most corrupt superintendents in public education.

    http://californiaschildren.typepad.com/californias-children/2013/05/an-alleged-misappropriation-of-public-money-in-the-san-francisco-unified-school-district-investigated-and-reported-by-the-ba.html#.U31hvty4nHg.

    • RMycroft

      Hmm. A later change of course?
      Backers defend anti-drug program / School board is told the science is sound June 23, 2004, Heather Knight, San Francisco Chronicle

      Superintendent Arlene Ackerman said she will stick with her initial demands that Narconon change its curriculum or be removed from the list of approved community-based organizations that can work in San Francisco schools.

      “My only comment is that my staff took a look at the curriculum and recommended that certain modifications be made. I support their recommendations,” she said. “My answer is the same. I’m still going to require the modifications.”

      http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Arlene_Ackerman

      • California

        Back in Oct. 2002, when both Jill Wynns and Ackerman were approached by the media (and others), they refused to take down Narconon Drug Education and so did Trish Bascom who would not even meet with any of us until April 2004.

        By that time, Nanette Asimov had accrued 19 months of research data into what was going on AND the California Department of Ed agreed to evaluate Narconon Drug Education. The SF Medical Society and other groups had come out against Narconon Drug Education.

        The fraud was going to be exposed and Ackerman lied to the media, as she had about many other things. Heather Knight was a good reporter but not the stellar investigator that Nanette was and is…. Knight basically repeated whatever Ackerman said for years, until Ackerman was finally deposed.

        That “community-based organization” list? It was created because of Narconon Drug Education just willy-nilly was placed on the approved list for the SFUSD School Health Programs in 2001, right after Ackerman came on board. We demanded, and got, a vetting process.

        When kicking out Narconon Drug Education from the SFUSD came to a vote in Aug. 2004, Jill Wynns abstained from voting.

        I hope this helps.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          The San Francisco Chronicle article* from yesterday appears to have been taken down. Did you have a chance to read it? It was behind a paywall and no one seemed to have a subscription.

          • California

            Yes, the SF Chron has a paywall but it comes down after a couple of days. What article are you referring to that was in yesterday’s Chron?

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              The headline was “Scientology-linked Program in California Public Schools”. It was here, posted yesterday:
              http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Scientology-linked-Program-in-California-Public-5492229.php

              It supposedly recapped articles from 2004 and 2005, but it was updated with a new article from May 2014… The previous articles are available, but no one here found out what the new 2014 article said.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I’ve checked and re-checked, it was available at that URL yesterday, albeit blocked by the subscription paywall. They must have taken the article down because it’s now a 404.

            • RMycroft

              It still shows up in searches on their site, but nothing at the link.

            • California

              See the above post to Jimmy Threetimes, please.

            • California

              Researched:

              Some (like me) are saying that the SF Chronicle/Gate was hacked and someone put up the first paragraph in order to behave like hackers. (The real publication date is in the near future but after working with the SF Chron for more than a decade now, I know that proposed publication dates can be flexible.) Others (who do not live here, deal with SF SCN OSA or with the SF Chron/Gate) are trying to say that the premature stub is just a mistake.

              I know it is coming, guys, so let’s be positive and state that the stub was a preview of coming attractions and the “hacking and/or mistake” has back-fired…. OSA is behaving badly again out here. And we saw it.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Thanks for looking into it.. What leads you to believe it was hacked? And do you mean they found the first paragraph on the server and posted it because they could, or dud they put it up with malicious code on the page?

            • California

              http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Scientology-linked-Program-in-California-Public-5492203.php

              The one paragraph is now posted of the associated SFGate, which is part of the SF Chronicle. I will research this publishing snafu and get back to you.

  • aegerprimo

    RED X the clam spam.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-82#post-2456422

    Beginners, ask me questions tomorrow when Disqus is not going bonkers.

  • Baby

    Disq is really, really bad tonight..ugh

  • media_lush

    Travolta excited to be in Cannes

    • TDA1541A

      that bearded guty really wants him

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Tony you are in a rarefied league of in the know journalists/writers/researchers on Scientology. (You’re factually the most in the know all time journalist of so much Scientology details.)

    You are in some new category of in the know persons about this subject.

    I sure wish Martin Gardner was alive to hear Jamie DeWolfe’s reading of Nibs Hubbard’s condemnatory final thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard senior.

    There’s never been this amount of relaying of Scientology past and ongoing history as you’re doing Tony!

    All your writings and blogs ought to be put into volumes, and anyone studying Scientology needs have a set to refer to. (In the same way old magazines are used by researchers to delve into a subject’s history, all your writings and blogs should be similarly put in volumes on Scientology, its mandatory material for understanding Scientology, docs, promo, interviews).

  • Glibby

    Die hard Scientoogists like Kirstie Alley want to paint the discussion as a question of “What are the beliefs of Scientology?” Yet, no on cares about that. If that were the discussion, none of us would be here. The real question is why do you look past the abuses, Tom Cruise, Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, Jenna Elfman, Greta Von Susteren, Elizabeth Moss, Jason Lee, Erika Kristensen, Laura Prepon, Danny Masterson, Nancy Cartwright, Juliette Lewis, Giovanni Ribisi, Beck, et al? We don’t care what you believe. We all just want to know why you allow your religion commit these abuses that are well documented and really awful? What is wrong with you, that you won’t acknowledge the problem and do something about it? Especially you, Tom Cruise. Thank you Leah Remini for acknowledging the problems and sticking your neck out. You are one decent human being.

    • Party Hull!

      Think that’s an excellent post, very well put.

    • Sid_Snakey

      It’s not just Leah Remini – other celebs have stuck their neck out, and compared to Remini have been much more vocal, and had more of an impact inside the church:-

      Paul Haggis, Jason Beghe, Michael Fairman, Larry Anderson to name the obvious ones.

      Will Remini ever give a full interview or statement or video? All of her interaction with the media has been through third parties, “a source close to Remini told us…” etc. We even had interpretive dance!

      I hope at some point Remini feels able to shine more of a light inside Scientology, and to try and reach other celebs still in.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yeah, but you gotta admit….that dance was pretty damn easy to interpret ;-)

    • Espiando

      And that, Glibby, is why most of us in the Bunker love you. Well said, direct, to the point, and a call-out to the people who might have some influence with the general public.

      Now I’m getting angry, REAL angry, about Nancy Cartwright and her fucking pool parties and barbeques.

    • chukicita

      It’s never been about the wacky beliefs. It’s about abuses of people and the law.

  • Sarah James

    Very happy that David Miscavige has given Ryan so much information to work with! Good job cob. See you in court, over and over again. Miscavige, still think it was worth expanding on LRH lies? Bet you do.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Brilliant and funny, Michael Leonard Tilse!
    It’s 7 minutes of pure awesome irony! May it go viral!!!

    Flag Down 2014 Success Story

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KyIJudjGE&feature=youtu.be

    • Missionary Kid

      When I clicked on your video, I got the message, “Watch this video on YouTube Playback on other wesites has been disabled by the video owner.” I then got redirected to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45KyIJudjGE&feature=player_embedded

      What a great parody. Thank you Michael.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yeah, same here. Thanks. May be Michael’s settings

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          I think I fixed it. Thanks! Also maybe have some color tweak that makes it look a little better.

          • DodoTheLaser

            You sure did fix it! Very welcome and thank you! :)

          • Jo

            Very funny, thanks Michael :)

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            I mean.. just… psssshhhhooooooo!!! Hey, random thought, but you should be a guest on J Swift’s podcast soon. That should happen.

            • D.Y.G.

              I agree! I’d love to listen to a MLT/J.Swift podcast

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              The way you typed that made me hungry. MLT/J Swift sounds like some sort of sandwich. But yes.

            • Illinoisian

              As described in “The Princess Bride” —
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7i9Xh15534

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I knew I’d heard that somewhere

          • chukicita

            i didn’t know what this was and now my coworkers think i’m nuts for laughing out loud all by myself in my office. Excellent, thanks! I wish you could use the soundtrack.

          • Shamwari

            Thank you MLT… you made my day!

    • DodoTheLaser

      KEEPING SPs WORKING

      The ten points of KSPsW consists of:

      1. Having the truth about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
      2. Knowing the truth about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
      3. Knowing that it is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
      4. Telling others the truth about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
      5. Helping others to tell the truth about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
      6. Seeing that the truth is widely known to all, especially Scientologists.
      7. Handling all attempts to stop suppression of the truth by Scientology/Scientologists.
      8. Knocking out efforts by Scientology/Scientologists to hoodwink new people.
      9. Closing the door on any possibility of anyone getting fooled by this
      evil, fraudulent, abusive and criminal racket, ever again.
      10. Closing the door on any possibility of anyone doing anything similar in the future.

      Courtesy of Pete.

      • TDA1541A
      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Couldn’t this be scaled down to maybe, 5 or 6 items? What is the difference between “having the truth” and “knowing the truth”? How do we know the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Isn’t what is provable enough of the truth, without being the whole truth?

        • DodoTheLaser

          Check out the original 10 points of KSW. It’s a lot worse.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Ohhh my bad. It’s almost a 1:1 parody of it.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Almost. Only a lot better and more truthful.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              :) I only hang around because I like the people here. I can’t read about Scientology much longer, Dodo.

            • DodoTheLaser

              We also got cats. Just saying.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I am more of a dog person, but I like cats, too. Over the last few days I’ve been watching this alleged crime scene footage over and over, trying to find out where exactly the video was doctored to frame this doggie as a bad doggie.
              http://youtu.be/JRhV8YoEUqA

            • DodoTheLaser

              I know. The whole world saw it. Dogs are cool, mostly.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Framed.

            • DodoTheLaser

              :) :)

            • Espiando

              Honestly, Dodo, if I wanted someone living with me who was totally dependent on me for food and attention, makes no money, can’t properly control where his waste goes, stinks up the place, and throws a fit when a bath is required, I’d buy a member of the Sea Org.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I’m not one of those people that is in crazy in love with their pets, but I was about to go all “NUH-UH!” on you until that was hilarious.

            • DodoTheLaser

              You wrong. We won.

            • TDA1541A
        • NOLAGirl

          Jimmy are you PTS to KSA?? (Kicking Scientology Ass) :)

    • TheCat’sKnees

      Perfection! What “spirit of play”!

      Thank you so much for being there, and for everything you do!

    • KC

      “When you drive by a Scientologist, that train wreck by the side of the road…” Line of the year!

    • K2P2

      Oh, this is hysterical Michael. Couldn’t stop laughing.
      Proud to be an SP

    • Baby

      Hahahahha.. I don’t know how I missed this.. OH MLT you are funny! And so talented. You get the SP Award of the century! xo

  • media_lush

    actually, they do look kinda similar…

    • DodoTheLaser

      Dunno. I think Tom is going for Luke Wilson’s look.

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        He does have those Luke Wilson jowls in that shot. Looking a little stocky, Tom? Fresh off the Facelift table (and still puffy from it?) Or, too much filler?

        I see him using a lot of fillers lately and it’s not flattering. I hate that overly-fillered look.

        • media_lush

          actually if you were to smash my avatar on the head I think you’d get Cruise 2014

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            Ha ha! You get a Bunker Statuette for that one, ML!

            God, if it ain’t fillers and he’s on steroids for some auto-immune issue, how does that look for such a powerful At Cause Big Being Oh-Tee?

    • Charlotte

      That was my first thought when I saw these recent pics: Tom Travolta (Tremolta)

  • TDA1541A
  • DodoTheLaser

    Leah Remeni’s Mom is going to hit Twitter.
    I predict lots of snark and love. And win.
    Also, fresh picture of friends.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Beautiful pic.

  • D.Y.G.

    The photo at the top of the page has caused all kinds of amusement this morning. My 13yo daughter has never seen it or heard of the couch-jumping episode. Tom has a new fan, and not in a good way.

    Completely OT but might make you laugh: Daughter’s class is taking an end of year field trip today. They’re going to the West Virginia Penitentiary.

    • VickiStubing

      Is it a “Scared Straight” field trip? Your schools sound a lot tougher than ours….

      • D.Y.G.

        I’m not sure if they’re trying to scare them straight or just scare the crap out of them in general. This is not actually a functioning prison – it closed in the 90s because of inhumane conditions. It’s big at Halloween and has been featured on all those cable TV ghost hunter shows.

        • Baby

          OMG Dog…I would love to go through that.. I worked in a 150yr old Mental Hosp ..Very similar architect.

  • Krew13

    I just read this wonderful news. Read and enjoy:

    ‘Edge of Tomorrow’ Box Office Projections Hint That Tom Cruise’s Leading Man Career Might Be Over

    Take a look at the trailer for the upcoming sci-fi epic “Edge of Tomorrow.” It has all the makings of a blockbuster: stunning visuals, an intriguing premise (futuristic soldier finds himself dying and reliving the same battle over and over), and Tom Cruise, a bankable leading man.

    Or is he?

    For all its selling points, “Edge of Tomorrow” is projected to gross a scant $25 million upon its June 6 release, Variety reports, a dismal number for a $150 million action epic. The low expectations can be explained in part by the marketing – or, rather, the lack of it. Distributor Warner Bros. has been focused on promoting “Godzilla” and hasn’t yet unleashed a large push for “Edge of Tomorrow.” But that can’t be the whole story — if “Edge of Tomorrow” starred Channing Tatum or Bradley Cooper, might there be more enthusiasm for the movie?

    After more than 10 years of diminishing returns on his films, it might be time to face the fact that Tom Cruise is no longer a leading man.

    In the past decade, only two of Cruise’s films have grossed more than $150 million domestically: 2005’s “War of the Worlds” with $234 million, and “Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol” which brought in $209 million. This might not matter if Cruise was downsizing his star power into smaller, lower-budget films, but he isn’t. Cruise has starred in would-be blockbusters like “Valkyrie,” “Knight and Day,” and “Oblivion.” Of those three, only “Valkyrie” managed to recoup its production budget at the U.S. box office.

    “Knight and Day” and “Oblivion” made back their money in foreign markets, but that wasn’t a fallback plan Cruise had to rely on before. After establishing himself as a marketable actor with “Top Gun,” “The Color of Money” and “Rain Man” in the 1980s, Cruise became a box office giant in the ‘90s and into the early 2000s. His films routinely grossed more than $100 million, even unadjusted for inflation, allowing him to mix blockbusters like “Mission: Impossible” with less conventional films like “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    Then, about 10 years ago, something changed. It seems too easy to blame it all on Cruise’s meltdown atop Oprah’s couch, especially considering, as LA Weekly recounts, that moment was partly exaggerated through selective editing in YouTube videos that indicated Cruise was jumping up and down manically for
    longer than he actually did. Still, a palpable sea change followed: Interviews with Cruise became more eccentric, and he began publicly speaking about his Scientology-driven disdain for psychiatric drugs and
    therapy. In a lengthy, bizarre interview of unknown origins that made the rounds on social media, Cruise made a number of bizarre, forceful claims about Scientology, stating, “We are the authorities on the mind. We are the authorities on improving conditions.” That kind of language didn’t fly with Americans, most of whom have never considered Scientology anything more than a Hollywood cult.”

    The actor once seen as a relatable, charming everyman suddenly seemed, in real life, to have become an alien.

    Read the rest here: http://www.ibtimes.com/edge-tomorrow-box-office-projections-hint-tom-cruises-leading-man-career-might-be-over-1588157

    • midatlanticcoast

      It’s funny that the writer said that TC should emulate Brad Pitt. I get the impression that BP isn’t a fan.

      • NOLAGirl

        I don’t think TC could ever be that laid back. Pitt was just seen here in New Orleans in the past week, pitching a fresh beer from his balcony to Matthew McConaughey’s balcony across the street. Can you imagine Cruise? He’d make Dave show him his boobs first. :)

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      How do they project opening day box office numbers based on promotion? That don’t seem right. It probably is. But it don’t seem.

      • Phil McKraken

        They have a lot of data (real data, not Scn-type data) in the long history of movie releases to attempt to model near-future performance. It’s kind of like predicting the weather — the shorter the timeline a Meteorologist predicts for, the better probability of accuracy.

    • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

      of course that quote that only $cienotologists could help in the case of a car accident…i mean, dafuq?! attacking brooke shields….total nutter……

    • D.Y.G.

      This seems very similar to what I read yesterday about “Knight & Day”. Studio execs were wetting their pants over pre-release surveys and projected gross receipts, so they went into “drastic measures” mode to get people in the US interested in the film. It’s opening weekend was not good. The foreign market saved it.

    • ze moo

      While most of TC past movies made good money, EOT may be having troubles. or just nervous producers and marketing whizs. The movie will have had 6 weeks of expensive advertising and if it has to go up against the same release date of Smerfs 3 or Cloudy with a chance of meatballs 4, TC could sit in the dust. We’ll just have to wait for the numbers to come in. So much of the EOT is going bomb stuff just reflects the bad attitude that Cruises antics in the naughts brought him.

  • Sunny Sands

    Cruise had a 20-year run as a top star. His scientology weirdness probably cost him an additional 15 years career he could have had. But it’s also the nature of the business that as the stars age, usually there’s less interest.

    • 1subgenius

      That’s the dufference between “stars” and actors.

  • Pierrot

    In case Tony is late today, there is a lot of work on the Craigslist front.

    Statsthursday 22nd May BLUEs galore, NOT for the faint hearted!

    The BLUES are your priority, flag the purples where appropriate and easy

    They are trying to CONFRONT, don’t let them SHATTER

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-83#post-2456681

    TY Chutney

    • K2P2

      way to start the morning. . .

  • NOLAGirl

    Sounds heard outside the Tony Ortega suite of The Underground Bunker:

    – “Do you think he’s still sleeping?”
    – “You go knock, I’m not going knock”
    – “Who made coffee??”
    – “SHHHHHH he’s gonna hear us”
    – “No…Espiando is cleaning up the bloody troll pieces this time, give him the mop”
    – “Who cooked breakfast”
    – “F5 F5 F5 F5″

    LOL Yes, I’m silly. :)

    • TheCat’sKnees

      Silly, but accurate!

      • NOLAGirl

        Not everyone would admit it, but you know if we actually all shared a structure that’s exactly what we’d be like.

        • TheCat’sKnees

          New reality show? “House of SPs”?

          Things to do while waiting for new post:

          1. Red X blues
          2. Read the #Scientology twitter hashtag https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Scientology&src=hash&f=realtime
          3. Red X purples
          4. Check out Mike’s blog, ESMB, OCMB, Back in Comm, and see if the WWP Thetan thread has any new posts
          5. Refresh comments looking for new comment from Tony (maybe he has a breaking story? maybe one of the cats got sick on the keyboard? maybe he is just waiting for a call back, it helps to know that so we can help wait)
          6. Go on a comment upvote binge, Disqus-willing (sign back in at least twice after getting signed out)
          7. Change IP, Red X blues again
          8. Try really really hard not to be impatient (and fail).
          9. Leave for work/school/errands, and try to pretend you’re not waiting for a chance to check your phone (red lights are a good time, right?)

          • NOLAGirl

            “House of SP’s”

            Bahahahaha!! I love that.

          • VickiStubing

            The only reality show worth watching! Can we get smell-o-vision? For the caek and popcorn, of course ;D

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Silly is an underrated art!
      And you are an artist.

      • NOLAGirl

        Laughter and acting an ass. It keeps me young. :)

        • 1subgenius

          “Humor is the one thing cults can’t stand” (Enturbulator 009)

    • Frodis73

      Made my morning. I had mental pic of adults gathered around a big office door…like x-mas morning a bit. That is pretty brilliant NG.

    • Espiando

      Hey, I made the mess last night, it’s only right that I clean it up. I’ll be quiet about it, though.

      • NOLAGirl

        I’ll get the hot water & bleach in a bucket for you.

        I’m smiling at you, but I won’t put a smiley here because I know you hate them.

    • Tony Ortega

      Sorry. Busy with Raw Story stuff this morning.

      • NOLAGirl

        No apologies necessary Tony. We’re just enjoying some silliness. You know we’ll be here when today’s story is ready.

        • Elen

          Amen to all you’ve said NOLA Girl! Tony…. we understand… we are like junkies waiting for our fix!

        • ze moo

          Or if a new one isn’t ready. Not everyday can have a bunker moment. Sometimes the clams don’t do anything. At least not publicly. It is ok to take a day off now and then.

          • NOLAGirl

            True. Let me rephrase: We’ll be around whenever a story is ready. :)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Wait, you mean you really aren’t an unemployed blogger living on the fringes of the internet…?

        Scientology LIED???

        • Silence of the Clams

          They would never lie. Maybe you just didn’t word clear correctly? This is obviously your misunderstanding.

    • D.Y.G.

      Mow the lawn or wait for a new post? I hate making decisions.

    • noseinabk

      I was waiting quietly. Nola did it!

      • NOLAGirl

        <3

  • Mark

    Word has evidently reached even up the stairs over the Café Alcatraz in Poole High Street, that COB wants more ads on Craigslist “now-now-now”. While we wait, could you spare a few moments to SCROBBLE THE BASTARDS by Red-Xing them? Thank-you.

    http://oxford.en.craigslist.co.uk/search/?sort=rel&areaID=211&subAreaID=&query=scientology+%7C+dianetics&catAbb=sss

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Nobbled, in the absence of my scrobbler.
      Only 4 hrs old too, heh heh

      • Mark

        Nobbling is just as effective as scrobbling. I’m narked: I only checked the damn’ list just before turning my thinking-engine off late last night – but they rise (relatively) early in Dorset – first one was posted just after half-nine this morning…

    • Observer

      Scribbled.

      Edit: thank you, autocorrect. SCROBBLED.

    • Mark

      DULY SCROBBLED. I think that beats our previous record – less than TWENTY MINUTES to boot ‘em off CL – well done, everybody!

      • Eivol Ekdal

        I had a good ole wack from UK – 2 locations + Switzerland and Germany

  • Sidney18511

    While your waiting check out this kornacopia of kult knews.

    http://www.naderlibrary.com/cult.scientology.toc.htm

    • Missionary Kid

      The other branches of the nader library get pretty wacked.

      • Sidney18511

        What do you mean MK? The collection they have on scientology is great. They have books, court filings, magazine articles, affidavits and more.

        This is really the only section that’s of any interest to me although they do have a really great book written by an x-member of “the family” (the flirty fishing group)

        • Missionary Kid

          What I found is a whole raft of blogs bent on proving that 9/11 was a government conspiracy, as well as other crap. That doesn’t invalidate the stuff on $cientology, but it taints the site.

          When I check out a source, I look at all of the things that come along with it. In this case, IMO, it’s a matter of people writing posts willy nilly.

          One of the posts is The Real History of Satanism, by Lyndon LaRouche. I wouldn’t quote anything on the site as a source, especially lovely Lyndon LaRouche. Is that wacky enough for you?

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    Something’s been bothering me lately… I think Jillian Schlesinger is very attractive and all, and her videos are great, right, but it just seems like a while now that she’s been out and free of the Sea Org… I mean, shouldn’t she have changed clothes by now? Am I the only one worrying about that? I hope she’s okay..

    • anonsparrow

      I sort of got the impression that all of the interviewing was done at one time and then released later in segments. Hope that’s the case!

      • NOLAGirl

        I think that’s the case. No way would Karen have let that sweet girl run around with just one outfit of clothing.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I know but it looks like she’s in an abandoned prison of some sort. I just worry.

          • flyonthewall

            OMG, The indies have their own version of the Hole and are forcing escaped SO’s to make videos denouncing Co$! Gasp! Karen and AGP are off camera pointing a taser at her

            • noseinabk

              You know the humorless OSA bots are gonna run with that.

            • flyonthewall

              No I’m serious, at the 2:45min mark you can totally see Karen weilding a baton taser in the reflection! Can’t you see the sweat streaming from Jillian’s pours and her eyes darting back and forth in desperation? I can’t believe I never noticed this before. I’m going to email my congressman and tell on those meanie beanie indies!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Now, now.

              I am sure Karen treats them all very well. Provides transportation, housing and lovely rice and beans dinners…

            • flyonthewall

              Oh sure, until they start asking questions. Then it’s straight to the abandoned factory with you!

      • Observer

        That’s classic deadpan Jimmy Threetimes humor.

    • flyonthewall

      LOL, well she prob made the videos in one sitting and Karen is releasing them bit by bit. More likely that those are the only clothes she owns and between takes she panhandles in order to save up and buy a new outfit. Hooray! I begged $5 today, new undies here I come! By next week I’ll be able to afford a shirt!

    • D.Y.G.

      I would think it’s too warm in CA to be wearing a cardigan.

  • Richard Grant

    I swear I didn’t mean to hit the PLAY button on that Cruise video. It was an accident. Kind of.

    So like, wow. I’ve seen it before, but not for a couple of years, and it does make a notably different impression today. What I mainly remembered was Tom acting like a crazy person. But what strikes me now, beyond that, is that he really doesn’t have anything to say. I mean, his performance is almost totally devoid of any actual information about what Scientology is or does that makes it so awesome — beyond the sweeping claims that “we are the experts” and all that.

    It’s full of empty phrases repeated over and over again along the lines of “You either do or you don’t.” “You’re either one of us or you’re not.” And Tom has definitely decided to “do.” Because he “knows.” But knows what? And do what? The video leaves us baffled.

    So this, I think, is a different sort of problem for Scientology apart from the creepiness factor — and we can see it too in those Super Bowl ads. There’s no message. There’s no clear positive idea of what they’re selling. It’s like we’re being asked to buy a product because look, here are the happy excited faces of people who own one, and here are some catch-phrases about how this product will change our lives, but there’s no actual clue as to what the fucking thing actually is. Something to do with religion and science. Maybe it’s an iPod that plays sacred oratorios. Maybe it’s a VR headset that gives you visions of the afterlife. Maybe it’s a church where we pray to the Mighty Atom. Seems kinda strange that they won’t tell us.

    • noseinabk

      From Urban Dictionary:
      gobshite
      Loud-mouthed person who talks a lot, but nothing with any value – as in shite coming out of their gob

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      My understanding is that it is directly from DM’s mouth, through tom cruise’s empty head, and meant exclusively for the sheeple.

    • kemist

      My first impression was that he laughted a lot at the end, maniacally, at things that were not funny, and actually nonsensical.

      Like someone who’s either gone off the deep end or high on very bad shit.

    • Juicer77

      Amy Scobee mentioned having to watch the video multiple times on DM’s orders, and even to the sheeple it sounded nutsy. Tip of the hat to Mark Bunker for the video:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_dumHKQv-o

  • ze moo

    The International Business Times is forcasting a poor showing for ‘Edge of Tomorrow’.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/edge-tomorrow-box-office-projections-hint-tom-cruises-leading-man-career-might-be-over-1588157

    • Tony Ortega

      Tom Cruise is involved with a bullying organization that is accused of ripping apart families.

      I’ve never understood how rooting against his film success would have any effect on that fact.

      I understand why some folks here in the comments like to pretend that he’s losing power at the box office (he’s not), but he could continue to be the biggest movie star in the world, and it’s not going to change the basic fact that he needs to speak up about Scientology.

      Rooting for him to fail as an actor just comes off as unseemly, to me.

      (Not attacking you, ze moo, just reacting after seeing so much stuff about Tom, the actor, instead of Tom, the Miscavige enabler.)

      • Observer

        I look at it this way: box office failure for Tom is further evidence that his “religion” is a lie. If Scientology were what it claims, he would never have a box-office dud.

        • flyonthewall

          It’s either that or he pulled it in bc of o/w’s or he’s PTS. I see a gang bang sec check in Tom’s future. I am willing to chip in for the lube, how about you?

        • D.Y.G.

          I’m postulating “straight to DVD” .

      • Krew13

        Rooting for him to fail as an actor just comes off as unseemly, to me.

        Because some of the money he earns from his films go into Miscavige’s pockets? I’m not going to spend my money on something that will end up in Scientology’s billion dollar legal defense fund.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        To be honest, I’m rooting against the predictability of the American people. If they generate projections based on what is spent on marketing and come to a figure of $25million domestic gross, I hope it’s either way lower or way higher than that. If there is any truth to the suggestion that we are so easily herded by advertising, that would be lot scarier to me than Tom Cruise having success at the box office.

        • kemist

          Unfortunately, I think we are (thinking of all people here, not just americans) very much herded by advertising.

          The huge expenses put into marketing in pretty much every field you can think of kind of prove that.

          When the pharmas underwent the financial crisis in 2008, they fired us researchers, the actual brains behind their future products, not their marketing teams.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            You’re probably right. But I know for a fact that personally, I’m impervious to all advertisements. I’ve never seen one single commercial that made me go out and buy something immediately. Except for the Doritos Taco at Taco Bell.. that’s the only thing.

            • flyonthewall

              Ok I got everything I was suppose to get except clown college, pst that billboard had no effect on me whatsoever

            • D.Y.G.

              I don’t know anyone who dares to eat Taco Bell. How was it?

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              By the time you’re eating Taco Bell and think to yourself “this doesn’t even taste like real Doritos”, you’ve abandoned all hope long ago. So, not bad!

          • Juicer77

            I respectfully disagree re: the herd mentality. It depends on how much time a person spends watching TV, looking at the web, and shopping in stores. I avoid all three of these things as often as possible and spend my off-time gardening or walking. So far I haven’t seen one ad for Cruuze’s new film. In any case, I’ve never liked his work much, he just doesn’t appeal to me.

            • kemist

              Marketing these days is a science.

              They study their market to see what will work with the greatest amount of people, and what to do to target specific demographic groups, including those who don’t see themselves as part of a group.

              Everyone sees themselves as not movable by marketing campaigns and yet… They work.

              Companies wouldn’t spend so much money on these things if they got no return on their investment. They wouldn’t have a complete department focused on something that does not work, said department more important to them than the one that is creating the products they sell.

              It’s even true of politics as well. The million dollar costs of a political campaign are essentially publicity, in all its forms, both mainstream media and internet, which is becoming more and more mainstream. If you do not have a powerful marketing machine behind you… You’re practically guaranteed to lose.

              Publicity has an effect of people, even those who do not spend that much time watching TV or reading the web. If you have money and buy stuff, you’re subject to the effect of publicity. Having an effect on people does not mean said people suddenly crave whatever was in the ad they just saw and get out to buy it.

              But, when they’re hungry for say, ketchup, they’ll probably get the brand that was most advertised to them, or appealed the most to their values via a group-focussed campaign – and this includes brands that promote themselves to be organic or local, because these things are also used as marketing tricks to target certain groups of people.

            • Juicer77

              Sorry but I buy the cheapest ketchup that’s the best value and tastes good. No brand loyalty whatsoever. I once made a focus group leader cry, you know.

      • aquaclara

        The story should be on the Scientology aspects, like you’ve done here. I’m a day late in adding to the comments-this was a great article, Tony. I hope it gets a wide audience-the reporting is excellent.

        I don’t root for Tom’s movies. This happened once I saw the power Tom Cruise-as-a-brand had over encouraging and promoting the destructive practices of Scientology, a brand he personally cultivated and sold to both the cult and to his public.

        He uses his power to influence others -and chose to use it the wrong way. Maybe one day, he will wake up and apologize to all the families hurt by his advocacy of the cult. Until then, I hope his movies flop at the box office, and the power of his influence diminishes significantly.

      • ze moo

        Much of the ‘TC is going fail’ band wagon is focusing on the clampire and TCs antics in the 00’s. Every time one of the gossip sites talks about Katie and Suri or couch jumping, some google TC and wander in to rabbit hole of the clampire and are forewarned. Every TC premier gives the media another chance to ask ‘where’s Shelly?” Let’s hope that someday some red carpet interviewer will do that. All of this attention has hurt the clampire.

        While TOE may not get great US sales, TC has, so far, more then made up for it in foreign sales. His ‘bankability’ has not taken much of hit yet, but his shilling for clampire came to a very abrupt halt when the backlash from the take down notices went out and the Brooke Shields stuff really hurt him. That started the 4chan raids and much of the current piling on by the vox populi.

        Little of that is going to matter to the movie public, TCs movies earn what they earn, and movie interviewers are not going to ask the hard questions because they don’t want to be cut off from other movie star interviews. The business will still insulate TC from reality and only a diminished income will get his attention.

        TC has had a yoo-yoo relationship with $cientology, I wonder if the yoo is up or down this year?

      • Eivol Ekdal

        From Nicholson’s peice…
        ” The eight-headed hydra was easily slain. If the tabloids refused to toe the party line, they could be sued: for claiming Cruise was sterile, that he and Kidman had to hire sex coaches, that he’d seduced a male porn star. He won or settled those cases and gave the proceeds to charity.”
        — can we guess on which charity got those funds:?

        • kemist

          One that you can find on a list of scilooneytoon fronts ?

          • Eivol Ekdal

            I read the LAWeakly story last night and I just love her faulty logic…
            “Except Cruise never jumps on a couch.”…..
            …..”Minutes later, he stands on the couch for a second”
            “The distinction between standing and jumping is small but significant.” (especially for Tom – sorry couldn’t resist)

            REALLY? How did he get to where he was standing? I saw both feet leave the ground at the same time. Not a step up, definitely a jump at least a hop.

            ” and after she and the audience cheer that, he does it again.”

            OK – Twice so now the plural applies.
            So if he is not a couch jumper then he is at least a couch hopper!
            And it took her 5000 words to make her faulty point. She has her tongue so far up Tom’s ass that she can taste Dave’s!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Tom Cruise has lost power at the box office, but there’s no telling why this may be so. He’s older; audience tastes change; Scientology– could be any of these, or something else. Speculation that centers on his involvement in Scientology is valid here, but only to the extent that it is focused on facts, rather than snarky speculation.

        I disagree that all of this conversation is “rooting for him to fail.” We do have those, and for the most part they get short shrift. But Tom Cruise’s claims that Scientology has made him more able and more in control put his public performance squarely on the table.

      • kemist

        Especially trying to say he has no talent and only survived on his looks.

        I think he has some, or he wouldn’t have lasted until now. Before I knew about him being a complete nutcase, I did appreciate some of his movies and his performance in them.

        Rooting for him to fail, well he does try to propagate the evil cult, has a nasty behavior with reporters and other actors and profited from SO slave labor. I think a bit of backlash is warranted where it will hurt, ie, his pockets. Especially as some of this money goes to support the evil cult.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        I know you are busy but I wonder if you were planning to do a follow up “Open Letter to Tom Cruise” again this year? The timing seems right and your letters might gain even traction on celebrity gossip sites and other media sites. You also have a Bunker load of social media activists and letter writers who would be more than happy to network it out for you. Who knows what the outcome might be this time around?

        For newcomers to the Bunker, here are the links to Tony’s two other letters to Tom Cruise. It’s hard to imagine that Cruise, who professes to care so much and be so intense about everything, especially scientology, would not respond to these moving letters – at least defend his “church” and his buddy, Miscavige.

        Tony’s first letter, “Scientology’s Disgrace: An Open Letter To Tom Cruise” http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientologys_di.php

        His second letter, “Hey, Tom Cruise, Why Weren’t You the One to Raise a Stink When This Woman Went Missing?” http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/12/hey-tom-cruise-why-werent-you-the-one-to-raise-a-stink-when-this-woman-went-missing/

        • aegerprimo

          Thank you for those, and had not read them yet. They are excellent resources to quote in Disqus comments at RadarOnline for example when the run a celebrity Scientologist “story”.

    • Observer

      I postulate it so!

  • aquaclara

    This latest Narconon suit shows a new angle-the patients banding together to escape, and then the damn cult following them. I wonder what the local law enforcement community thinks of this?

    Maybe I’m totally naive,but I keep hoping that law enforcement SOMEWHERE will start stepping in to help put the practices of the cult away.

    We need more police that recognize the harm that’s going on and do something- like the ones the helped Marc Headley escape.

  • Truthiwant

    This is a picture from International Scientology News. It’s the distribution warehouse for Gat II. The quality is not great because it is scanned…but is it real or is it photoshopped?…

    • Juicer77

      Third option – staged. Not sure if A, B or C.

      • Truthiwant

        Maybe it’s the Electrolux washing machine factory and they slapped on some Gat II stickers!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I’m guessing they use forklifts to re-arrange those pallets quite often. Gotta stay busy.

      • 1subgenius

        Like the deck chairs on the Titanic.

    • Observer

      I think it’s a combination, with a small amount of actual stuff shooped to look like there’s a lot more than there is. Something looks off about the pallet on the forklift, and what’s with the first ceiling light? Speaking of which, I’ve been in a number of warehouses and none of them have been remotely lit like this.

      • Truthiwant

        Typical Scientology picture with things disappearing towards infinity in the background

    • Mark

      It’s a fake: notice how the floor abruptly changes from white to a greyish shade four blocks of cartons in; the edge of the cartons on the forklift right next to the stack is suspiciously fuzzy; there seems to be another abrupt change where there’s a gap in the stacks behind the forklift (like those forced-perspective trompe l’oeil backcloth-corridors in films) – and why are there those light-flares around the forklift? None of the other lights are in such a position – it’s to hide the end of the forced-perspective endless corridor!

    • noseinabk

      It does match images found at Bridge Publications.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        You’re right, it does seem to fit. Haven’t they used wide-angle lens photography to make crowds appear fuller? You can achieve the same effect vertically.

        • Mark

          Yup – taking it from a low angle makes the shelves look taller.

          • RMycroft

            They might have shrunk the forklift too. Notice how the stack on the fork is smaller than the ones on the shelves.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Low angle and likely a fish-eye. Note how the driver’s head is stretched upward. The curvature effect of the fisheye also makes the upper shelves appear to be leaning inward.

          I don’t have the software to correct for fisheye, but I did try to restore the proper proportions to the lift truck and operator with a simple proportion tool. Here’s what I got– looks a lot more reasonable, wouldn’t you say?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Conversely, one could continue to “improve” the image to make the aisle more and more impressively Upstat:

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            It does look a bit more realistic there, as it’s not stretched quite as high. Kinda funny, the forklift looks like an entirely different model.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              More like the one in the other photo of Bridge’s warehouse:

    • Silence of the Clams

      This is clearly photoshopped from stock imagery likely culled from a royalty-free image bank, or some prior photo shoot. You also would never have racks that stack that close to a warehouse ceiling.

      Keep tying oh Tiny Tot.

      • D.Y.G.

        From my limited perspective working in warehouses, I would agree that the stacks are way too close to the ceiling. The equipment shown is also not a high-reach forklift. I don’t think it goes high enough to reach the top stack.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Also, the stacks on the forklift are much smaller than the ones on the shelves. They got the perspective wrong. There is no place for the stuff on the forklift to go and no space it came out of.

          The top layer has got to be added in image editing. Just doesn’t look right. And I agree, I doubt that that little forklift has the reach to get to the top shelf.

    • Sir_Real

      I’ve been in many a warehouse, and this looks doctored. And why the little Dinky-Davey sized forklift?

  • El Con Blubbard

    It is interesting that Amy Nicholson is reporting that Tom Cruise’s CAREER is RUINED. Now that Amy has identified Tom’s RUIN….maybe a registrar can get in comm with Tom and $ell him $ome of that $tupid Powerz$ cuz Tom does know that $cientology can help. LOL

  • Tony Ortega

    NEW POST UP!

    • Sir_Real

      OH BOY!

  • http://twitter.com/nickrob Nick Robinson

    Have you considered the other viewpoint: Scientology is actually good? No you haven’t. Hate to break it to you, but Scientology is actually good.

    • Jgg2012

      How is it good for you?

    • Edward Whalley

      Like how? I know people who can do it better. They’re called Squirrels. They’re cute and will do your auditing cheap, and will freely give you epubs and pdfs of all those books you’re being pressured to buy. Also, they don’t have Ideal Orgs. They’re just people helping people. You may not get fancy certificates from them, but you’ll get caring, happy people who will actually communicate with you on all channels.

      There’s just one thing. You’re not going to be a real Scientologist after that…

      • http://twitter.com/nickrob Nick Robinson

        Scientology is good and it helps people.

        • Espiando

          Just because you say it doesn’t mean it’s true. When Ron said, “What’s true for you is true,” he was doing something called “lying”. You can say it as much as you want. And if you click your heels together and say “There’s no place like home,” you’ll find yourself waking up in a bed on a farm in Kansas.

          You’re trying to strike a blow against enemies of the Church before 2PM Pacific on Thursday in order to meet some condition of an A To E. We get it. We know why you’re doing it and why you’re doing it when you’re doing it. In fact, we probably know more about your church than you do. The Exes here, and there are many, many of them, certainly do. And DBs like me probably do. If that’s the case, might there be a little bit of an informational disconnect between you and your church? What are they keeping from you?

          • http://twitter.com/nickrob Nick Robinson

            I’m not a scientologist. I’m just saying that it is a good thing.

            • Espiando

              Yeah, a philosophy which says that I should be “eliminated, quietly and without sorrow” simply because of the gender I sleep with is a good thing. A philosophy which demands that I throw away the medications that have made living tolerable and which tells everyone that the practitioners who gave them to me are responsible for the Holocaust (and every single evil over trillions of years on billions of planets) is a good thing. A philosophy conjured up by a man who failed his only course in a subject I got my degree in, yet whose adherents regard him as the last word in said subject, thus insulting the effort I put into my academic life, is a good thing.

              Fuck you.

            • Troy MacGyver SP

              Explain why?

        • Edward Whalley

          Away from their money. And their families. And their health, and their pesky meat bodies….

        • Edward Whalley

          troll.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          How?

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          Nick wins this months award for,”top.” Go fuck w/ your criminals,slave keepers..

        • Troy MacGyver SP
        • Troy MacGyver SP

          How do they help anyone? Ever been in the.RPF for masturbating.? Ever see you [arents or are theySP’s?

    • Scream Nevermore

      Word clear ‘good’ for us. Waiting with bated breath…

    • j238

      Exactly what is good about breaking up families, coerced abortions, and holding people in makeshift prisons?

      You expect people to know about these things and somehow keep an open mind about Scientology?

  • Jgg2012

    While we are talking about TC: I noticed that someone had a photo showing his middle tooth. Yes, TC has 3 incisors (front teeth), not four. He may have a condition called holoprosencephaly, which causes you to have 3 incisors. In addition, it causes infertility (which, btw, is not the same as homosexuality). If so, it’s in his auditing files and he won’t want the public to know about it (though Davey jokes about it and TC loves Davey, so go figure).

    • Edward Whalley

      Incredible! I never knew that part. I’m more than schooled in Sonic Hedgehog in cats, less in humans. That’s an interesting part of the puzzle.

  • aegerprimo

    To archive another take of the Tom Cruise Scientology Video…

    http://youtu.be/u87eQw6MTls

  • Gordon Freeman

    I never, ever get tired of posting this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etO0QMNeLIs

  • j238

    That story is now on the front page the the print edition of the Village Voice. What a stupid move. Obviously, a slap against Tony.

    Wonder how low they’ll go.

  • Leave Comments

    I agree. That video finally brought it home to a lot of people, that yes he really is in a cult and that cult is named Scientology.

  • violetskyye

    I cringe every time I see that Medal of Valor thing, and how idiotic Cruise looks wearing an award that was created for him, just for being such a good dupe and bringing millions into the so-called “church.”