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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

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In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings

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Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions

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A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce

 

Laura DeCrescenzo in the Sea Org the year of her abortion, 1996

Laura DeCrescenzo in the Sea Org the year of her abortion, 1996

 
By Tony Ortega

Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age.

Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court denied Scientology’s final appeal regarding the files, paving the way for DeCrescenzo to make use of the evidence, and she wasted no time getting some of that information on the record.

For months, the Church of Scientology has been pursuing expensive appeals, arguing that forcing it to turn over Laura’s “pc files” was like asking a Catholic priest to give up information admitted in a confession. Repeatedly, Scientology’s attorney Bert Deixler, in his petitions to the California and U.S. Supreme Courts, has referred to the information in Laura’s files as “deeply religious,” and central to the nature of Scientology itself.

Now, finally, we get to see the contents of those files. And the “deeply religious” nature of Scientology turns out to be about manipulating children to perform heavy labor on slave-like wages for 15 hours a day.

Prepare for a spiritual journey.

Laura Decrescenzo left Scientology’s “Sea Org” in 2004, and the church has argued that she was required by law to file her lawsuit within four years of that date. Instead, she filed in 2009, and Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Ronald Sohigian agreed with Scientology that Laura had waited too long. But an appeals court found that Sohigian should have considered evidence that Scientology’s methods of persuasion had prevented her from filing sooner.

So Laura’s purpose in these new filings is to convince Judge Sohigian that she did not file her lawsuit earlier because of the manipulation she was under as a continuing member of Scientology.

“As detailed below, I was too afraid to sue the Church of Scientology until July 2008 when my parents told me for the first time that they were no longer Scientologists, that they believed I had been wronged by the Church of Scientology, and that they would stand by me regardless of what the Church of Scientology did or said,” she writes in her sworn declaration.

In order to convince Sohigian of her immersion into Scientology’s culture of fear and manipulation, she has submitted…

– Documents from her pc files showing how, as young as 12 years old, she was drilled on how to handle the doubts of her own family, and how to minimize her contact with them.

– Details about her life in the Sea Org, which included working 98 hours a week when she was 12, and for pennies an hour.

– Reports from the church itself which bolster her assertion that she did not want to abort her 1996 pregnancy, and which indicate that a more detailed report by the church is missing.

– Corroborating declarations and depositions by other young women in the Sea Org, including Christie Collbran.

– And a fascinating document by expert Robert V. Levine, who explains Laura’s actions as the result of Scientology’s persuasion and mind control.

It’s a huge amount of material, and we have all of the original documents at the end of this story for you to download and pore over yourself. A week from Wednesday, we’ll learn if it’s enough to convince Judge Ronald Sohigian that Laura DeCrescenzo filed her lawsuit in time.

 

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In her new declaration, Laura DeCrescenzo explains that she was born into a Scientology family and began volunteering at the Orange County, California church as young as six years old. At nine she began working at the church in Albuquerque, New Mexico. At 11, she was sent to Los Angeles for training, and was there subjected to intense recruitment for the Sea Org, which requires total commitment to Scientology’s goals.

At 12 years old, with her parents’ approval, Laura signed the Sea Org’s billion-year contract. (She was Laura Dieckman then.) She was in the Sea Org for the next thirteen years.

Once she was in the Sea Org, Laura says all of her communications with her family were controlled and censored. “Before any incoming and outgoing mail was provided to me or sent to my family members, it was opened and approved by the Church of Scientology,” she writes.

Occasionally, she points out, she could get a phone call to her parents while not being monitored. But she knew that she’d be questioned about it later, so she knew not to utter anything critical of the Sea Org.

Laura attaches several examples from her pc files to illustrate how the church controlled her communications with her family to make sure they didn’t hear what she was actually going through.

At 12, she wrote out a confession that she had lied because she wanted to go home and because she missed her family.

 
LDExA1

 

I told [redacted] the reason for me not wanting to be at ITO [International Training Organization] was because of purpose when it was because I was just sick of waiting around and missed my family.

Time: Oct 24, 1990 afternoon-evening
Place: Chicken Delight (outside ITO)
Form: Lying
Event: I told [redacted] that the reason I wanted to come home was purpose but really I missed my family and was tired of waiting to get out of review (KTL) [Key to Life].

I gave my [redacted] entheta over long distance phone lines when [redacted] had even told me not to and enturbulated me [redacted] very much…

 
We’re struck by the maturity in the writing of this girl of 12. But it’s also clear how much she’s already absorbed the language and thinking of a Scientologist. Laura at 12 has learned to treat her “crime” of missing her family with cold efficiency.

Laura’s homesickness that first year in the Sea Org was also described in a report written by “Supercargo” officer Javier Ruiz, who told Laura “that people who want to leave the Sea Org have done bad things or have crimes that they are withholding.”

Six months after leaving home Laura missed her parents even more, but “Javier Ruiz had told me that my mom’s questions about me coming home were antagonistic to the Sea Org and Scientology.”

Her files include a report written by Ruiz, which criticizes the dedication of a 12-year-old…

 
LDExB

Dear [redacted]

This is some data on Laura Dieckman.

She originated last week that she wanted leave the SO. This, she said, was based on her missing her [redacted].

Laura has not been doing well since she has been on post. She has not taken full responsibility for the area under her.

Today I went over why people blow with her. She is going to writing OW’s and we’ll take it from there. Apparently her [redacted] has been putting alot of “ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO BE THERE” stuff on her lines. There maybe a PTS sit to handle as the “reason” that she wants to take off is to “help” her [redacted] around the house.

I wanted this data known and will get in comm with you on it.

Thanks, [redacted]

 
According to Laura’s declaration, the person who had been asking if she was “sure you want to be there” was her mother. Javier Ruiz here is warning about other people who have “blown” — Scientology jargon for defecting. He worries that there may be a “Potential Trouble Source situation” with Laura — a Scientology concept that a church member’s problems make them “PTS” because they have some attachment to a person who is critical of Scientology (in Laura’s case, her family). Ruiz has written this to his superior and expects to speak in person (“get in comm”) later.

An auditor — someone who asks a “preclear” or “PC” like Laura questions during a counseling session and then makes notes of what she has said in her pc file — reported that Laura had tried to take “unauthorized leaves” to see her mother. In a series of documents over several years, Laura describes being told she needed to “handle” her mother’s concerns.

At 15, Laura is “intensively drilled” before going home to see her grandparents so she can handle their questions about Scientology…

 
LDExG

 
As the report indicates, she will do her best to handle her grandparents by deflecting their questions with the book What is Scientology?, which was designed for outsiders and for keeping a discussion vague and inconsequential (a “good roads, good weather” conversation).

In 1994, at 15, Laura proudly tells her supervisor that she’s “handled” her mother about taking leaves of absence (LOA) for things like Christmas…

 
LDExH

 
At 16, Laura was interrogated about her mother’s loyalties to Scientology. “I was asked the same series of questions with respect to my dad, grandparents, and other family members.” If Laura expressed any doubts of her own about the Sea Org, she was told “I would be segregated from the main Sea Org population and not allowed to speak to any of” the other workers. Another document shows that Laura was convinced to report her mother’s “snide” remarks about the Sea Org.

At 18, Laura submits another report, feeling compelled to explain how missing her family makes her “griefy”…

 
LDExP

 
Numerous additional documents show that Laura was constantly interrogated about her mother and the rest of her family. When she was 20, she was compelled to file a report on her mother: “I…noted that my mom was upset because we had not seen each other in almost 2 years and I had not been home in 3 years.”

When she did try to see her family one time when she was still just 12 years old, Laura was told she couldn’t get on a flight to Albuquerque until she’d been through a “sec check” — a tough interrogation to make sure she wasn’t harboring ill feelings about the church. If she tried to leave without it, she was told she’d go through a kind of court martial. With just a few hours to make a flight with a non-refundable ticket, she knew she didn’t have time for an hours-long sec check, and she made a break for it.

Desperate and confused, I went to catch my ride in a shuttle anyway. I was met by security guards from the Sea Org (including Al Sternson) and another staff member (Kaye Conley) trying to stop me. Al Sternson also tried repeatedly to open the door of the shuttle to get me out. I eventually gave in and did not go to the plane. Only after undergoing numerous questions and waiting for approval to leave for another day was I allowed to leave.

In her files, she found a couple of documents that now back up her memories of this event, and in which she clearly wrote at the time that she was “stopped from going” to see her family.

The result of years of this kind of control taught her, Laura writes, that Sea Org officials would find out if she ever “said anything negative or expressed a desire to leave.”

Laura’s declaration then moves to another method of manipulation Sea Org members endure: “life history questionnaires.” When they first join the Sea Org and then at times later on, members are required to fill out lengthy questionnaires that probe them about their most private experiences, especially sexual ones. In a story earlier this year, we revealed for the first time some of the information that Sea Org applicants have been forced to admit before joining the organization. In Laura’s declaration, she lists some of the questions to give a sense of how invasive the life history forms are.

Have you ever had doubts about being in Scientology and/or the Sea Org? Are you, or have you ever been a newspaper reporter or journalist of any kind? Have you ever been connected to anyone who has threatened or attacked Scientology? Are you an active drug pusher? Note any instances of homosexual activity from earliest time up to present time. Have you ever been employed by the Government? And many more questions.

(As an exhibit, Laura includes two of her full questionnaires, with answers, for when she was 12 and 13 years old.)

“I knew that the Church of Scientology used these Life History Questionnaires to keep detailed and deeply personal information about me, and that if I did anything to attack Scientology, this information would be used against me,” Laura writes.

And she knew this to be the case, she adds, because in her job as Investigations and Evaluations Director, it was her task to review the Life Histories of other Sea Org workers.

“I specifically reviewed other Sea Org members’ files and their Life History Questionnaires to determine what information we had available regarding these individuals. If they threatened to leave or acted out against Scientology, we would then use information from their files to convince them to stay or to get them to stop acting out,” she writes.

Laura then gives us a taste of what life was like in the Sea Org by telling us about her hours.

At 12 years old, she worked from 8:30 am to 10:30 pm, seven days a week.

That’s right — she worked a 98-hour week, but only because she was a minor.

Once she turned 13, her schedule changed to 8:30 am to 12:30 am, seven days a week. That’s 112 hours a week.

At thirteen.

Things changed again when she was put into the Sea Org’s prison detail — the Rehabilitation Project Force — when she was 22 years old. Then her day started at 6 am and went to 9 pm, a fifteen-hour day of heavy labor, with only fifteen minutes for meal breaks. Lights out in the RPF was at 10:30 pm. Again, her schedule lasted seven days a week.

Over that time, her pay went from $22.50 a week at first and then up to $50 a week by the time she was 14. But when she went into the RPF at 22, her pay fell to about $10 a week.

That works out to about 10 cents an hour for heavy manual labor.

She received no formal schooling after joining the Sea Org, only informal time spent in a library. At 15 or 16, she took a high school equivalency exam, and after that received no further schooling in non-Scientology subjects.

Also at 16, she married another member of the Sea Org, Jesse DeCrescenzo. And in December, she went off the pill. She wanted to have a child.

 
[Next page: Pregnancy, thetans, and an abortion]

 

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  • nottrue

    google judge sohigain. see what you think

    • Minion Gayle

      Oh dear.

  • Tim Hallinan

    What a sick, evil bunch of fucks. Dreadful, soulless, vile, without a single redeeming shred of humanity. The only thing I can think of that equates to it is Nazism. Bring the whole, diseased edifice down and sow the ground with salt.

    • DamOTclese2

      And these assholes! do it for money. Money and control over people.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      And, TH, for any people who would like to amplify the reaction, post information on entertainment media Websites, and message boards, forums, and social media sites, of all kinds, about some of the people, who are paying to *stop* Laura DeCrescenzo and Monique Rathbun, in the courts.

      Some of the public $cientologists, who are paying the attorneys in the $cientology Inc. fight against Laura and Monique:

      Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Beck, Anne Archer, Juliette Louis, Kirstie
      Alley, Jenna Elfman, Giovanni Ribisi, Mark Isham, Nancy Cartwright, Chic
      Corea, Priscilla Presley, Peaches Geldof, Erika Christensen, Greta
      VanSusteren, Billy Sheehan, Sky Dayton, Bodhi Elfman, Julia Migenes,
      Bijou Phillips, Danny Masterson, Elisabeth Moss, Jason Lee, Kelly
      Preston, Catherine Bell, Marissa Ribisi and others

      • Seannie5

        Peaches Geldof? Since when?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Have you never seen her nekkid hookup pictures with a stranger that were taken at the Celebrity Center in LA?
          Hearsay it if you dare.

          • Natalia M

            . . .

            • EnthralledObserver

              Excellent.

          • Seannie5

            Hell no, I will look it up!

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          From VH1:

          “… yes, world, Peaches Geldof has decided to join their ranks! In a toe-curlingly awful documentary shown last night on British TV, “Fearne Meets Peaches”, the spoilt
          dilettante proved that she’s exactly how we perceived her to be, i.e. rude, self-obsessed, generally unpleasant and speaking in a hilarious Transatlantic twang.

          But the big reveal from this unholy televisual mess is that Peaches has been a Scientologist for like, two years now. And she explains her religious beliefs in a typically astute fashion: “It’s like, something I agree with? I felt like I needed to have a spiritual path? It’s like I always kind of felt like I was lacking something when I didn’t have a faith. It’s like pop psychology.”

          • Seannie5

            wow, did not know that. I wonder what Bob Geldof thinks of that. I can’t see him as someone who would have much time for scientology BS.

            Peaches has had 2 babies very recently, hopefully she will give it up. Then again, she is a celebrity (by association) so will be treated differently.

      • Captain Howdy

        “In 2007, Tambor was reported to be a Scientologist. However, in February 2008, Tambor expressed concern about “Internet reports” about his alleged involvement with the religion and stated that he “took some Scientology classes at one time, studied Scientology for a
        while, but no more. I have nothing against it, but I am no longer a Scientologist.”

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          removed.

          • 1subgenius

            Pro-tip: there are no clam comedians.

            • Espiando

              And Jim Meskimen proves that.

      • Eclipse-girl

        In researching Jeffry Tambor, he admits he took classes but claims that he is no longer a $ci-lon

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          Yes, EG. Got that. Removed name. :-)

      • Tim Hallinan

        The boards and forums are tremendously valuable, but what’s needed is mainstream media coverage, combined with a concerted effort to have $cientology’s tax-exempt status withdrawn, and withdrawn retroactively. And if it can’t be withdrawn retroactively (although it was obtained through fraud), then ending it now would take a huge bite out of Miscavige’s insides. (BTW, Google just showed me what other things people look for when they Google “Miscavige,” and it’s “Marty Rathbun,” “L. Ron Hubbard,” “Mike Rinder,” “Tommy Davis,” and — get ready – “Death of Lisa McPherson.”)

        Seems to me that ALONE is worthy of a mainstream piece — the changing profile of Scientology as measured in the absolutely neutral, brute-force math of Google.

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          K. I’m jes’ sayin’ using those names on entertainment sites spreads the word further out into the *general population*, who don’t know anything about this, who need to hear about it, which builds *public support* for action against $cientology Inc., is all.

          • ThetaBara

            I agree with this. I never really followed gossip sites (and still don’t) but when Katie blew so spectacularly, I started following the story on Celebitchy. One of the writers there has family still in so their coverage was intelligent and informed. I watched their commenting community go from “it can’t possibly have been THAT bad” with a few lone voices who knew it could, to educating one another on how bad it is. Now any scilon story draws sneers from most, and they are spreading the word to people who are unlikely to visit a site like this since what they are looking for is escapist entertainment. Hubbard used celebrities to draw attention to scientology – and, guess what – it still works!

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Way cool, TB!!

        • Robert Eckert

          When I Googled “miscavige and” the auto-complete was “miscavige and tom cruise lovers”

          • Tim Hallinan

            Best laugh of the day.

    • Freethinker

      Applying 100% Standard Tech brings out the worst in people.

  • SandiCorrena

    Really not feeling well after reading this; my heart aches for Laura and I keep crying all day now and I am no one just someone who is a human being and not even personally involved……CO$ monsters the time is coming to pay the piper and I pray the costs are steep, viscous and very very public! Laura I cannot even imagine your suffer ring at their hands!

    All the more grateful today for days like yesterday!

  • Noni Mause

    Tony will obviously be chasing them up for a comment on this material. Tony, let us know what the outcomes are. Does anyone know if WWP has documented their denials (all written) since our Tommy left?

  • Dwight Geiger

    I think it would be a great idea to innovate every person with money and power on facebook about scientology.I know they all have their own agendas but this really is war and the government won’t help at all.If we do this we will raise awareness to this cult and at least plant some seeds.Who knows,some of them just might listen.

    • VickiStubing

      Did you mean “inoculate” instead of “innovate?” Just wanting to clarify for the fly-by readers.

      • Dwight Geiger

        I did mean innovate.The word means to introduce something new and I think that people like Gates and Buffet as well as many others that have money and claim that they want to help don’t have a clue about this cult.That’s all I meant by that statement.

  • WhereIsSHE

    This is heart-wrenching –and damning–evidence.
    A reasonable person in Laura’s position obviously would have feared filing suit. That she did it at all, even with the “delay”, while still arguably under the control of the tremendous threat of a myriad of forms of the retaliation by the “church”, is what strikes me.
    Having said that, this is not a slam dunk for her. And yet, she has managed, through this lawsuit, to slam this scam of a “church”.
    Brava, Laura (and kudos to her legal team).

    I understand that outside counsel for the “church” are giving their client it’s best shot on the statute of limitations “defense”, as they should, but I don’t know how they can sleep well at night after reviewing this evidence. Like I said at the start of this post, it is nothing less than heart-wrenching and damning.

  • richelieu jr

    “Wheather” and “Whitehelding”…

    And people say that Hubbard Study “Tech” is useless and produces functional allitterheadz! Nhoting chould be fhurter form the Thrut!

    • Suppressive Tomato

      I stopped to shake my head on those, too. There are tons of glaring examples of misspelling, grammatical errors, etc.

    • Robert Eckert

      And it’s supposed to be “good roads, fair weather”– they’re even misquoting Hubbard!

  • Walter Mitty

    It´s about time …

  • Interested

    Just read the Tampa bay times. “No kids allowed” Two things jump to mind. 1) tommy Davis has a hell of a lot to answer for. I can’t wait to see the little piece of shit squirm . 2) more importantly, the abortion clinics – why were all these abortions not flagged ? http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/no-kids-allowed/1101759.

    • Eclipse-girl

      How do you mean flagged?

      The Co$ girls and women who go to them are coached as what they should say when answering question. They don’t speak out because they are scared, often have no money, perhaps no ID and are scared for their husband.

      Are the doctors or nurses suppose to ask the same questions over and over again?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        And yes dear Citizen. You did pay for the procedure with your tax dollars.

      • Interested

        No, but on the other hand, if there are lots of young girls coming from one cult/religion on a continuous basis, then surely social services should be advised?. This, if they are very young, is child abuse. They noted the religion on their documents, they took the money, but an abortion is traumatic, it is not a form of birth control. I have a friend who is 83 whose ex forced her to have an abortion when in her 20′s . She still feels pain

        • Eclipse-girl

          The fact is access to clinics has become more and more restricted. That is not what this is about.

          Marriage is allowed in SO at age 16. Yes rapes occur and are covered up in SO. Most of these victims are 16 and older. (still far to young to be married, IMHO)

          Since the victims are well coached as what to say and answer, I have no idea if they even do put down $cientology as their religion or if they are even asked that question.

          I am pro choice and I see many of new legal restrictions as an impediment to a women’s right to have an abortion. I am in a quandary her of how to keep abortion, safe, legal and rare, and how to prevent what this evil, vile cult is doing to young women.

          I am sorry for your friend. She was forced into something she did not want; it was wrong.

          • Interested

            Thank you for my friend. I too am for free choice. Reading the documents it was mentioned that the religion of scientologist was written down by the clinic.. What I find hard to believe is the physiological lack of help. Laura said she wanted to say stop but it all happened too quickly. I realise also one does not want to draw something like this out because that is painful. I don’t know (shrug) all I feel is if there were a lot of abortions happening, all to young girls, all scientologists, then why did not someone speak out.

            • Eclipse-girl

              There have been victims speaking out about their past. Claire Headley was one of them.

              I think it has been hard for many of them to speak out because , they may still be a $cientologist. Or they are so ashamed of what they did, they fear the publicity.

              This policy of No Children changed, sometime in the 1990s, by the little rancid maggot. When Laura entered SO at age 12, she was told she could have children. She would need to leave SO to raise a family. When the policy changed, there was no announcement. Laura had no idea this policy had changed.

              Those girls (they were 16 / 17) and young women will never been given the psychological help they deserve because they have been brainwashed. Not until they leave.

              Should the doctors or employees of these clinics spoken out? I wish they could have said something, but these girls were married. They have been trained to protect the privacy of their patients.

              I wish the doctor / nurses / victims would have spoken up because it would get some of those “right to life” people nipping at Co$. Just one more problem for DM to handle. I would love to see them picket the specific clinics that Co$ uses, and take photos of the older handlers. But I don’t think that will happen soon

            • Interested

              Oh my dear, rant ahead. I too am ranting. Her story has torn a part of my heart. michaels sense of hopelessness made me cry. It is unjust, and yes, the church must be destroyed, but remember, most I think were good people wanting to do good until LRH black majik made them into pliable zombies and fear keeps them that way. All cults should be destroyed.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I asked Derek to get in touch with Michael. Michael gave me a public reply that stated he had dinner with Kitz ( a commenter here) and had some fun. Made me feel a hell of a lot better. I do not want to lose him (Having fought my own depression). Yesterday’s comments scared me. Too many victims have been lost.

              The individuals that I Blame include David M, Tom C, John T & Kelly P, Kirstie A., Jenna and Bohdi Elfmann, and the Ribisis. I do blame the celebs at this point.

              The celebs should be shamed. If you have not read BLOWN FOR GOOD by Marc Headley, I recommend it. It was the first book I read after joining this community.

              The regular people , the victims are not to blame. The mind fuck that was done to them has damaged them. Their brains are do not work the same way our do. Its like an addict, but done just by fucking with you ( ‘scuse my language)

              ALL CULTS SHOULD BE DESTROYED.

              It takes the public to fight against them.

              I do not know you past and you have every right to keep it private.

              I went through hell when my daughter turned 8 /9. I believe that it triggered my past. I grew up with 3 bros. The middle brother was “damaged” possibly born that way. My home was not safe for me or my youngest brother. It took a hell of a lot of therapy to understand what I just wrote.

              Since I was little, I have had an overwhelming amount of sympathy / empathy. THIS IS NOT BRAGGING. It paralyses me at times. I could not walk away from Laura’s story. I can’t walk away from the Headley’s.

              IT IS ALWAYS WORSE THAN YOU THINK.

              Only damaged people can imagine what I think. I AM NOT PROUD OF THAT

              I feel like I am coming across as bragging, I am not. I didn’t suffer like those kidnapped by Ariel Castro. I am just aware of what is possible???

              God I sound like a sick fucker.

              too much ranting, too much alcohol ?

              I may erase this with an hour or two. I erased something that I wanted to send to Glibwog. Its is sooo fucking hard to be VULNERABLE

            • Interested

              Eclipse girl I give you huge hugs, not just because of what you have said, but for what you suffered. The fact that you can talk helps perhaps. Never too much ranting against evil. Too much alcohol perhaps-:)) I tried that way … To forget… It didn’t help me..I still remembered, but evil that is done to these innocents! There is much pain out there, I try to think that if I had not known such deep pain and anguish, I would not be able to appreciate the good. Daft perhaps. But look at what we have here at the bunker. From evil, people throughout the word are uniting, telling their stories, making friends, hopefully helping in some small way. I am pleased for Michael, I hope he realises that he is still winning because he is out. Bless you.

            • Eclipse-girl

              TY for the (((HUGS))) and for reading / listening.

              I don’t usually go off like that. Laura’s story was difficult and I hope she wins and gets hugs settlement. I just fear the delaying tactics of Co$. I don’t want it to take years.

            • Interested

              Hey, always here to listen. ((()))

    • ze moo

      When the clam usage of public health facilities is noticed, the move to another facility. The providers may notice, but not say anything. How can they know the patient was coerced into coming? There are reports of Tampa area health care providers noticing all the clam traffic. Beyond asking a few questions, there isn’t anything they could or should do.

      • Interested

        I realise that this was probably the case, moving from one facility to another, but once the question asked….. The fact that someone asked about the SO abuse, began to talk out about it has meant people like anonymous and the bunkerites are doing something now.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I didn’t re-read this article, but I believe the planned parenthood clinic in Riverside county DID end up turning them away.
      I could be wrong…..I am going off “what I think” is a memory.

      • Interested

        Thank you. I hope your memory is exact. Perhaps one or two of the girls would have had time to change their minds.

  • Miss Tia

    A few afternoon tweets…..

    Read all of this & the next time U verbally attack someone keep this in mind! @JennaElfman @bodhielfman tonyortega.org/2013/10/11/how-scientology-coerced-a-child-to-have-an-abortion-the-decrescenzo-files

    READ THIS, READ IT U glib smarmy puppet for COB! @TomCruise U promote this 2! tonyortega.org/2013/10/11/how-scientology-coerced-a-child-to-have-an-abortion-the-decrescenzo-files
    #Soulless

    Have you been in contact with her @FBILosAngeles? How many is enough 4U 2 do something? U NO there’s more than her! tonyortega.org/2013/10/11/how-scientology-coerced-a-child-to-have-an-abortion-the-decrescenzo-files

    How many need 2B abused, victimized, forced 2 have abortions, brainwashed, etc b4 U DO SOMETHING?! @TheJusticeDept tonyortega.org/2013/10/11/how-scientology-coerced-a-child-to-have-an-abortion-the-decrescenzo-files

    URA “loser” 4 supporting a church that abuses people/children, defrauds, harasses, etc #NoExcuse #OpenUREyes @beck tonyortega.org/2013/10/11/how-scientology-coerced-a-child-to-have-an-abortion-the-decrescenzo-files

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      I so *love* what you do, Miss T.

      • Miss Tia

        Awww, thanks. I had a side project divert time from what I started LAST WEEK (insert eye roll) but I am going back to researching and will place draft emails/letters and where peoples can send them to the appropriate city/county/state/federal agency but a variety of different CO$ fronts! Yes, I’m gonna make handy reference webpages for that too! :)

    • L. C. Spencer

      Oh you are really incomparable, Miss Tia.

      • Miss Tia

        Aww, shucks, you’re making me blush! :)

  • dbloch7986

    This story makes me so sad. It also stirs up a lot of the emotions I felt when I was working in the Sea Org. As a kid, you spend a lot of time learning to pretend that your emotions are not a part of you. It’s referred to as “Human Emotion & Reaction” (HE&R for short). You can detect the derogatory view of emotions in a lot of what is written here (e.g. “being griefy”).

    This poor girl, same as me, was made to feel that missing her parents was a bad thing. It almost makes me think of ‘Children of the Corn’. Scientology has a habit of creating zealots out of the children and trapping the parents. Though, in my case it is reversed.

    I am so happy that Laura has been able to uncover documents to support her suit. As a fellow ex, I can tell you that it is not much different from how anyone is coerced to do anything in the name of Scientology.

    Laura, I am sure that you have recovered from this event because you are a strong woman. However, in the event that this is causing emotions to resurface (I’m sure it is, or it will), I would like to remind you not to dwell on what could have been. It does no good to the psyche to dwell on “have been”s or “if”s.

    It’s unfortunate that Scientology continues to be protected by the law, while taking advantage of society’s most vulnerable members. It is even more unfortunate that they would take advantage of a woman’s right to choose in such an ironic way; by denying her the right to choose.

    I sincerely hope that David Miscavige, et al. are held to the coals for this. I understand that there are lawyers who will take on almost any case, but how any high caliber lawyers can continue to defend Scientology is beyond me.

    At the risk of unsolicited political grandstanding, I firmly believe that the decision to have a baby or not rests solely with the woman who is charged with carrying it. The only person who should have any input is the child’s father. Beyond that for anyone to ever suggest that a woman should make a decision one way or another is heinous and immoral. It should be illegal.

    Especially in the case of something that calls itself a religion, and particularly in the case of one’s employer encouraging an abortion to protect their bottom line.

    • IBBy

      Derek, I was hoping to see you comment with your perspective. I hope you are settling in well in your new home and life <3

      • dbloch7986

        I am actually enjoying my month of vacation from work! I am staying with my aunt now. I just signed my lease yesterday. I’ll be in Austin next week in my new (furnitureless) home. I am going to get an airbed to sleep on until I can start collecting furniture haha.

        • MadMaxi

          The joys of starting out- creative furniture!! Taps the imaginative side of you and can be downright fun creating furniture and decor from found objects, Goodwill, and cheap hardware store items! Have fun with it! :D

          • VickiStubing

            Pinterest has lots of great ideas for making furniture out of, well, not much. And there is a lovely pile of pallets down in Clearwater just BEGGING to be put to good use, unless my fellow Pinterest addicts/Sci-watchers have already raided. Anon masks suggested. :D
            I personally lived with a dining table made of boxes (covered by a $1 KMart picnic table cloth) for months. And I still decorate in early-Mom-and-Dad-attic. It makes your place unique, just like YOU, Honey!

            • elar aitch

              aaah pallets and milk crates… good times

            • Sandy

              Decorative cement blocks & boards for my bookcases. Oh ya, baby

          • Deeana

            Around my area, St. Vincent DePaul stores always seem to have better quality furniture than our Goodwill stores. Maybe they are pickier on what they will take? Plus we have a 4 outlet furniture store chain that donates “scratch and dent” items.
            I very nicely furnished an entire Vacation Home from “The Saint” and our friend, Craigslist and had a lot of fun doing it!

    • richelieu jr

      You get the last laugh, Derek. Fuck them.

      • 1subgenius

        And laughing last is the best revenge.
        Or something like that.

        • dbloch7986

          He who laughs last, laughs longest!

          Fortunately for my parents I am not the kind of person that likes to rub things in people’s faces.

          • 1subgenius

            Eh, try it you might like it.

            • dbloch7986

              Believe me, I’ve thought about it.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Living well is the best revenge.

            Live well.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Derek, are you in touch with Michael L. Tilse?

      This day was particularly hard for him. I am asking you to contact him privately if you can.

      TY

      • dbloch7986

        I responded to him. Hopefully he sees it.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          I saw it Derek, thanks for your thoughts. I’m ok, going to dinner with a good friend.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            Michael, I am sorry this is a hard day for you. Please know that I always appreciate your comments and essays, and your courage, insights, and honesty. I have bookmarked your “Talking to a Scientologist” as a guide. So just know that I care for you and always will, as a never-in and fellow bunkerite.

            • Elen

              How do you bookmark a comment??? And where can I find this?? Please & thank you!

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Elen – I didn’t bookmark the comment, just the url. http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/how-to-talk-to-a-scientologist.htm

            • Elen

              Gracias, danke & merci beaucoup! I will still dream of the day when I can pick one comment & gaze at it lovingly whenever I wish! ;)

          • stateofcircle

            For what it’s worth Michael, I have tremendous respect for you for speaking out. I especially appreciate your willingness to explain the many intricacies of Scientology and the informative, intelligent, clear and concise way in which you do it. It is tremendously helpful to a “never-in” like me, and I have learned so much from you, even though I have been involved in the Scientology-Critic-ing community for several years. While I have never been in and as such cannot begin to feel the pain that you feel, I do know what it is like to be manipulated on a deep emotional level and all the feelings and consequences of it. While it is of course nice when people are supportive and have kind, encouraging words, it doesn’t resolve all of the feelings of guilt, embarrassment, anger, shame, sadness, etc., but we as humans are nothing if not resilient beings, capable of change and forgiveness, who make mistakes – sometimes bad ones. No matter the things we’ve done, what is important is that we learn from our past actions and experiences and evolve into better people. You have done that, and you have also gone far beyond that by speaking out and helping others, educating all of us and providing many with a feeling that they are not alone. Your presence here is so very important for those reasons and more, and while some of your feelings about your past may bring you down or cause you to question yourself, please remember all of the things you’ve done to After all, if you hadn’t joined Scientology and gone through the horrible things that you went through, you wouldn’t be able to educate, inspire and help people the way you are now, which is immensely valuable. Thank you for what you do.

            (this is a response to all of your posts today)

    • Poison Ivy

      “You can detect the derogatory view of emotions in a lot of what is written here (e.g. “being griefy”).

      This killed me. Absolutely killed me. As someone recovering from a big loss. A young girl misses her Mom so terribly – it’s the most natural thing in the world. Except she gets no sympathy, just criticism. It’s like Charles Dickens in the Blacking Factory.

      Grief is such an important emotion, it spans much of the animal kingdom.

      Oh that’s right, we’re not related to animals in any way. We just mocked’em all up. Thanks, LRH!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgfO_xckLs

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHJcwjpNueM

      • dbloch7986

        Oh no, “thetans” don’t have families. So you shouldn’t be sad about losing your parents. Because they really don’t mean anything. If you feel sad it’s because you are “degraded” and there is something wrong with you.

        That’s Scientology for ya.

      • elar aitch

        What a faustian pact it is….making people super human by denying what is so utterly human. Wake the F up clams! Scientology is psychology gone mad.

  • richelieu jr

    Amazing how Scientology’s whole raison d’etre is that they ‘make the able more able’, even to the point of super powers… Their first courses are in ‘communication’, and yet you get people who are in for years, decades, and when they want out, Scientology uses the fact that they are unable to survive in the real world as collateral against them… Not only that, but they truly ARE less effective communicators and ill adapted to the real world.

    “Take decades to make less progress than most mentally handicapped people in technical colleges!”

  • valshifter

    I cannot believe I’m reading this, I thought this would never happen in a million years, I always thought the cult would get away with anything, but this is unprecedented. Thanks Tony!!!

  • richelieu jr

    Lot of comments, but I’ll post this again later. Anyone here read a PK Dick short story called ‘The Turning Wheel’?
    Well, check it out: It’s about an unscrupulous cult leader called.. wait for it:

    Elron Hu, bard.

    Dick knew the fat old charlatan himself, as well…

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Philip K. Dick is one of the *greats* of all time, Sci-Fi writers. “Ubik,” and “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch” are so fantastic. Thanks for the reminder about “The Turning Wheel.”

      From Wiki: about “The Turning Wheel”: “The society presented is class driven. Above all is the god/messiah, the Bard “Elron Hu” (that is to say, “Elron Hu, Bard”), whose spiritual plan involves one becoming “clear” – an obvious jab at L. Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics, the self-help book that had been released a few years before.”

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        I recommend “The Men in the High Castle”;the novel Blade Runner was loosely based on, “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep”; and the short story “The Preserving Machine”.
        There’s also some great reminiscences of Dick on the LA Times website if you dig around a little bit.

    • 1subgenius

      Must have.

      • stillgrace2

        Couldn’t make it through, but I did like “Clearness be with you!”

    • Walter Mitty
      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Sweet! Thank you, Walter.

      • 1subgenius

        “He was the first Bard to wear a rosary of penicillin
        capsules.”
        Oh, this will be good.

        • http://irrco.wordpress.com/ Ian

          What an awesome line!

      • 1subgenius

        And the main site appears to be a good resource for anti-cos info.

        http://www.american-buddha.com/cult.scientology.toc.htm

      • richelieu jr

        Good work, Walter! I was looking for a link!

        DIck is one of my all time idols; He had any of the faults of Hubbard (penny a word, pound ‘em out philosophy (borne of necessity) only the worst of Dick’s outshine the best of Hubbard’s (with maybe one exception), excessive smoking and drug use, the impression of seeing beyond reality or being in contact with a higher intelligence, an obsession with creating a new cosmology (though DIck kept his mostly under wraps, and never tried to get rich off it.)
        ONe is responsible for UBIK, Blade Runner, Palmer Eldrich, Minority Report, etc, the other for Battlefield Earth and Scientology.
        I know which one i prefer.

      • richelieu jr

        New name for HUbbard:

        BATTLEFIELD GIRTH.

    • 1subgenius

      As happens, one thing leads to another, yadda yadda, Tom Cruise was in the movie treatment of Minority Report by…………Phillip K. Dick.
      Ta-da!
      I wonder if that was his second choice after rejecting “The Turning Wheel.”

      • Eclipse-girl

        I still haven’t seen that movie. I like PK Dick, but just couldn’t do it.

        • 1subgenius

          I haven’t and now that I know Cruise is in it, I won’t. The book is always better anyway.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Isn’t that true of most film adaptations?

            • 1subgenius

              I think that would be covered under “always”.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I had this argument with Captain Howdy once.
              He won: CUJO

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              The no-name man in the Clint Eastwood Westerns were inspired by Kurosawa’s Yohimbo, itself inspired by the novel Red Harvest by Dashell Himmett, which has inspired more works than any written work without the original story ever making it to film.

            • Captain Howdy

              The Godfather and Jaws also.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Meh….I only sort of agree on those two.

            • Sandy

              NO to both!!!!!

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Last Cruise movie I watched.
            It was lame. Stick with the book.

            • 1subgenius

              He can’t fly or act. I wouldn’t go to see a movie he’s in even if he weren’t a Scientologist.

            • Elen

              Saw him in Tropic Thunder… his best role if you ask me!

    • Walter Mitty

      Me again – with an idea: Can anyone READ AND RECORD THIS STORY and put it up on YouTube?

      This would be so great – plus some Scientology pictures.

      Artists!

      Editors!

      We need you!

      • stateofcircle

        Hmmm…that’s an interesting idea. I will gladly read and record it if someone can do a little video, perhaps just a slow slideshow of pics. I’ll ask Mr. State, but he likes to keep his distance from my Scientology habit :)

  • aurora50

    Thought I would repost this suggestion for bring Laura’s story to public attention.

    Marty and Mosey Rathbun are featured on an Inside Edition story tonight. In my state, it shows on NBC in some cities and CBS in others.

    And Dancing with the Stars is on ABC.

    ‘go to your local big three network websites. each news division has a
    tip line. link this story and relate it to Leah Remini and the Inside
    Edition story tonight on Marty and Mosey Rathbun. Also include a link
    to your local Ideal Org or Sci church if there is one. Do their work
    for them…see what happens…’

    It took me less than 15 mins to do this for my area.

  • Tony DePhillips

    The cult claims they are “champions of Human Rights”. What kind of group does tis kind of thing to it’s own staff members and then says they are champions of “Human Rights”??? Truly a disgusting group.

    • VickiStubing

      I was walking through the room where my Beloved was watching FoxNews when Greta Van Susteren was talking about Malala and human rights abuses. Came *that* close to throwing up all over the tv. It’s one thing when it’s people at arm’s length or around the world, but she can’t see it right under her nose. How she can’t SMELL it, I have no clue. Co$ stinks.

      • Tony DePhillips

        She stinks. I saw her at the Sandcastle at Flag and she knows exactly what is going on or she choses not to see it. If that is the case I don’t think you can call her an investigative reporter. She is a brainwashed bot. She is on OT7 or above so she is well indoctrinated.

  • Xique

    Shannon was a good friend of mine back in the 80s. I am so proud of her for supporting Laura in this case. Very cool!

    I am impressed with all these women; Shannon, Christie, Claire, and Laura. You are all so brave and strong! I love you gals! Sincerely, Janet

    • aquaclara

      Echoing your terrific comments! Thanks!

  • Hubbub

    Off topic, but CNBC just finished a report on a guy named Ron Hubbard who sells tricked out underground shelters in case of the end of the world (and apparently sales are doing really well in recent days). The company name is Atlas. They asked if Atlas’ Ron Hubbard is any relation to the Dianetics Hubbard, and he said, “No.” What a coincidence, though, given L. Ron’s paranoia.

    • Poison Ivy

      I’ve heard of this guy. Travel Channel will have a piece on him shortly.

  • May_West

    Wonder if Ray Jeffrey can use any of these declarations/witnesses to help prove RTC does much more than worry about copyrights.

    • Miss Tia

      ooooo….good thought!!

  • Espiando

    This is one of those days when it’s bad to have the reputation of being a snarky, ser-faccy son of a bitch. You can’t help reading this and feel ripped apart. I have no empathy, no sympathy, no soul, and no conscience, and I’m feeling it. Maybe it’s because…well, because I’m the result of the other side of the coin of Laura’s situation. Like Laura, my birth mother was 17 when she got pregnant. Catholicism made her have the kid and give it up. Scientology made Laura not get to the point of giving birth.

    We need some mainstream media coverage of this suit, and we need it now. We need more than us to get pissed off about this.

    • pronoia

      I was 17 when I became pregnant – and I was tossed out by my family with nowhere to go. I ended up in a catholic unwed mothers home run by radical lefty nuns who didn’t wear habits. They didn’t argue when I refused to give my baby up for adoption. Now that I look back on it — it was a crazy naive thing to do. Couch surfing with an infant is not a good thing. But I am glad I was not pressured to give her up (somehow) with religious threats. I was able to make my own choice, and live with the consequences.

      • aurora50

        I was 30; but this was ‘back in the day’ and just not done.
        My rather upper-crust aunties, also Catholic, decided to throw a baby shower and invite all the power couples in town. I was enormous, in my 8th month, and waiting in the hallway to the living room gathering up my courage to go in and face these ‘grown ups’ who had known me all my life.

        All of sudden, I felt a swat on my butt and turned to see my diminutive grandmother. She said, ‘Throw back your shoulders and walk in there proudly. Interesting women have been doing this since the beginning of time!”
        My family was there for me in the ways that it counted; I am so so sad for Laura’s loss as a young woman and for all the many many others who have suffered over the past 20 years and more…all the broken families…anything we can do to stop this and release those still in slavery must be done.

        • Zana

          I’m in love with your grandmother! “Throw back your shoulders and walk in there proudly. Interesting women have been doing this since the beginning of time!” :-) You gotta love a woman like that!

          • aurora50

            She was something!

            There are so MANY stories…will share some perhaps at a more appropriate time…but don’t you love the attitude? I have tried to live my life as an ‘interesting woman’ and to instill that spirit in my daughters.

            • Sandy

              A Counter story. My gramma had an abortion around at the turn of the century. In the nursing home, as death approached,she told my Mom she refused communion from her Lutheran minister becuz she didn’t deserve it. Gramma was wonderful to us kids. Makes me mad as hell to think about it.

            • aurora50

              Whoa. The power of faith…and the suffering…carrying that guilt through the years. Oh, my.
              Thank you for sharing that story. I am a firm believer in the power of stories to carry truth.

            • Zana

              Wow! It would be fun to learn about how she led her life as a young woman. I’ll bet some of her adventures would surprise you. :-)

            • Zana

              I’ll bet your amazing grandmother has some wild stories about her youth that she never told you. :-) Wouldn’t it be fun to know who she was in her youth. She must have been something.

        • Deeana

          My grandmother was born illegitimately in 1897 to her then 20 yr. old mother. The mother and her parents were Austrian immigrants who arrived in a small Pennsylvania town in 1880. The baby was listed on the 1900 census as the “daughter” of her actual grandparents. Which was a bit of a joke since the grandmother was well into her 50′s at the time. No father was ever identified and everything was a big family secret. Makes for a lost line in the family genealogy!

          • Observer

            Every child is a legitimate human being regardless of his or her parents’ marital status. That word in this context has caused untold suffering to many wonderful people.

            I’m not lecturing you, Deanna, and thank goodness that term isn’t nearly as widely used as it was even when I was a teenager. I just hate hate HATE the word illegitimate used in connection with an innocent human being.

            Both L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige were “legitimate”, and look what kind of people they were/are.

            • aurora50

              “Every child is a legitimate human being.” That is what I always felt my grandmother was affirming…and for her to have made the inner journey, as a Catholic, to be able to make that statement gave me the opportunity to see her with new eyes. She loved me very much.

          • aurora50

            ‘…a big family secret.’ and the power of those down the generations…we seem to be about the same age given the birth dates of our grandmothers; what we remember and what we are seeing and what seems to be coming…I would like to engage more on this topic at a more appropriate time.

        • tetloj

          Interesting women have been doing this since the beginning of time!”

          LOVE IT!

      • Eclipse-girl

        You went through hell.
        I can’t imagine being in your circumstance.

        NO ONE should make the decision except for the woman (or girl) herself.

    • dbloch7986

      Not quite sure what you mean by all this, but you really shouldn’t refer to yourself as an “it”.

      I am also pretty sure that you’re lying about the no empathy, etc. otherwise you wouldn’t be posting here. Being emotionless is not something to aspire to, believe me.

      • 3feetback-of-COS

        I think he was referring to his feelings.

        • Robert Eckert

          No, he said his mother “had the child and gave it up.” Yeah, there’s a hint of some self-esteem issue there. This story is rubbing everyone’s feelings pretty raw. I’m just starting to feel sad about it now: all day I couldn’t get past angry.

          • Espiando

            You guys are reading a little too much into this. It’s just a turn of phrase, nothing more (also exposing my German influence; “Kind” takes a “das”, not a “der” or “die”). But this is the type of article that makes you want to read deeply into everything. It’s the true Introspection Rundown.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      ” I have no empathy, no sympathy, no soul, and no conscience. ”

      You lie!
      Just saying.
      PS…I was adopted too.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        <— Adopted. Chosen by my loving family!

    • Rita Gregory

      “We need some mainstream media coverage of this suit, and we need it now.” Yes we do.

  • Zer0

    It’s almost as if someone has walked in to the office of Big Brother in Orwell’s 1984, confiscated his confidential and damning documents, and put him on trial before the court of Humanity. Now the world can see clearly the totalitarian enterprise that is Scientology. The mind control and utter disregard for human rights is so clearly depicted.

    Take for instance this evidence of a mind touched by Orwellian thought control:

    “At 18, Laura submits another report, feeling compelled to explain how missing her family makes her ‘griefy”

    A young adult, without the cognitive tools or education to describe familial attachments. “There is obviously something that needs to be addressed on this. I am not sure exactly what it is, though.”

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I wrote and performed this song some years ago as a musical aid to those who were healers and companions and caretakers who needed a little recovery time themselves. But it wasn’t until I started hanging out on the fringes of the Internet, learning what had really happened years ago, that I had to start listening to it myself from an entirely new level. For those who could use a little of same after today…..lyrics are under “See More”

    http://youtu.be/Yjz8PhtfwuE

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Thanks Hole. This is beautiful. Your voice rocks.

    • aboutandout

      THDNE, wow that was amazing. Beautiful lyrics and oh my what a fabulous voice. So soothing and relaxing…thanks so much for sharing especially today.

    • Ruby

      wow! Beautiful!

    • Sunny Sands

      Lovely music, lyrics and video. Thank you for linking.

    • Elen

      Thanks… I needed that!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        after the week I had, and then reading here today, I needed it Too!

    • aurora50

      This is profoundly moving, and beautifully presented. Thank you.

    • Larry Moore

      Wow! Beautiful! Thank you.

    • Captain Howdy

      Nice pipes, your Holiness.

    • Rita Gregory

      Beautiful! You have a great voice THDNE!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Wow! really amazing!

    • MadMaxi

      Beautiful lyrics and voice! Very touching, if it is ok I’d like to share this..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        no problem. tks

    • MissCandle

      Hole, Your song is the perfect balance to the horror story disclosed by these court documents. On a personal note, as a caretaker of my elderly parents and my husband, I really thank you for sharing your lovely sentiments with your equally lovely voice. You could not have shared your song at a better time, imho.

    • Zana

      Gorgeous. The production is terrific as well.

    • MissCandle

      We have incredible talent in our midst.

    • Owned By Dogs

      Thank you THDNE.

    • stateofcircle

      Moar moosic from you please ? :)

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        very retired, sorry.

        • stateofcircle

          Well that’s all fine and good, but I’m sure you have a plethora of previously recorded ditties you could share. Pretty pretty pleeeeeease? :) <—– she says, with sweet, angelic begging puppy dog eyes

    • sugarplumfairy

      Wow! Gorgeous voice!

    • aquaclara

      This is beautiful. You’re talented, THDNE.

      • Robert Eckert

        Am I the only one who reads THDNE as “Thidney”?

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Nice song Hole. :-)

    • tetloj

      Beautiful Hole

  • May_West

    Inside Edition goes to Marty’s house to film and one of their cameramen turned out to have been one of the guys spying on and photographing Marty in Texas. He then apologized to Marty & Monique, says he didn’t understand what he was hired for.

    • Ruby

      Classic!!! :)

    • SandiCorrena

      Yes and that camera guy could certainly say who had hired him! That was an amazingly bizarre coincidence!!!!!!!!!

    • MadMaxi

      Love it they kicked the story off with the squirrel busters!

    • aurora50

      Is that called, ‘karma’?

    • WhereIsSHE

      Link?

      • aurora50
        • WhereIsSHE

          thanks, aurora50!

          “In a strange twist, Marty and Monique recognized the freelance cameraman we hired to video this interview. They say he was the same cameraman Scientology allegedly hired to videotape them.

          At the end of our interview, the cameraman apologized to the Rathbuns, saying he was unwittingly enlisted to shoot footage of the Rathbuns.”

          See link from aurora 50, above.

    • IASREG

      I wonder if that would be Bart Parr. If so I wouldn’t believe him if he said he didn’t understand what it was for.

  • scnethics

    This is an incredible story, Tony. Thanks for all you do. What a goldmine of information for other journalists to pick up and run with!

  • aurora50

    This is slightly off topic, but illustrative. Down thread a bit is a discussion about the author Philip K Dick, and a story he wrote that spoofed LRH, etc. In the discussion there was a mention of a website, american-buddha which I checked out. Here is what is relevant to our larger discussion.

    In 2009, the publisher of the then St Petersburg Times, now the Tampa Times, sold one of its sibling entities:

    “Governing magazine, which is based in Washington and for 23 years has covered the workings of local and state governments across the country, will be sold to e.Republic, whose founder and other top executives are Scientologists.”
    http://www.american-buddha.com/cult.concernatgoverningmagazine.htm

    I went to the website and was immediately struck by something familiar in its layout, color themes and slightly rah-rah tone. From what I can tell, it is still owned and published by e.Republic. Following is its self-description. If this is all true, how deceptive and insidious! I worked for a time as a volunteer commissioner in a small town; any one on staff in places like that is slammed and would read something like this and think nothing of its antecedents.

    “According to the 2011 Erdos & Morgan Opinion Leaders Survey, a highly regarded study of media influence, GOVERNING Magazine is the 2nd most widely read print publication for state and local leaders after USA
    Today and the # 3 most influential after The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times. The Erdos Survey also found that state and local leaders rank GOVERNING the # 1 most credible print publication and the #2 most objective and most current publication after The Wall Street Journal and USA Today, respectively.

    GOVERNING’s readership also includes journalists, academics, advocates and activists, as well as representatives of companies that do business with state and local governments, a market that spends $3.2 trillion annually and employs 20 million people.”
    http://www.governing.com/about/

    Hope someone here with better research skills than I can follow up on this; very Stalinesque if true!

    • aurora50

      TMI? I can cut it down…

    • Mooser

      Off topic? It’s worth an article in and of itself.

      • Yan117

        An article!?

        It’s worth bringing the matter up to the House of Congress attention no wait…

        • WhereIsSHE

          What’s worth bringing up is LAURA’s LAWSUIT and the documents in evidence (plus the affidavits in support) which expose the CRIMINAL and TORTIOUS CONDUCT of this FOR-PROFIT (of Miscavige–and CRUISE, et al) ORGANIZATION, which RAPES every taxpayer (individual and corporate, etc) on a daily basis with impugnity–and which ENSLAVES its members, especially the CHILDREN who are ruthlessly ABUSED by virtue of the fact that their PARENTS bought into this crap in the first place.

          • Espiando

            All right, Oracle, what have you done with WIS and where are you holding her?

            • EnthralledObserver

              lol… WhereIsSHE… yeah, where is she?

            • WhereIsSHE

              Just because I didn’t ALSO lay into the original criminal, Hubbard, in ONE POST?!
              Oh, Espiando..
              Have some faith!

            • Espiando

              No, not that. What I was thinking of was Oracle’s near-trademark habit of RANDOM capitalization for emphasis. If I didn’t look at the poster before reading, my first thought would be “Oracle”.

    • Yan117

      They’re going the Rupert Murdoch way so huh?

      Creating ‘better realities’ through relentless mass media brainwashing.

      • WhereIsSHE

        You call that MASS media?

        • WhereIsSHE

          I call it another HUGE WASTE of some clams’ entire life savings (or mortgage refi) on yet another STOOOOPID and INEFFECTIVE MIDGET MISS CABBAGE scheme.

          You say Tomato-Thetan…
          I say Tomato-Thetan… ;)

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I am even more interested in http://www.erepublic.com/

      ShiZ

      • aurora50

        Well, that’s what I thought when I opened the link…but I lack context. Thank you, BTN…feel better knowing you know about it.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I don’t know about it.
          I opened the link and it screamed at me.
          It is a simple visual.
          I read a few words, looked at the layout and the colors and …Instant Engram!!!

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            I just realized something. How Messed up is it that we can take a quick glance at a website and peg it?
            WTF.
            I think I am glad I am going leaf peeping for a week.
            This may be a good decompression exercise.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Who are you kidding. You’ll have Mr. Chauffeur doing the driving while you 3G into the Bunker. Maybe you can pick up Tony and live blog the foliage.

        • WhereIsSHE

          I clicked on the link BTN provided.
          I glanced over the awards section; the links.
          My eyes glazed over.
          Glad you highlighted it, Aurora, but… not really concerned about it.
          The cult should be far more concerned– FAR MORE– about the TRUTH coming to light as a result of Laura’s courageous lawsuit.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            OK, just for the laughs….

            “This is like where is Waldo”

            Go to that link and then look at Emergency magazine and the ASBPE “award” logo in the upper right.

            • WhereIsSHE

              I looked.
              What I get is a really sad, way-too-late, attempt at propoganda.
              What am I missing?!

              EDIT: You mean the cedars symbols?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              You are not missing a thing. They have reached the precipice of dumbassiness!

            • WhereIsSHE

              AMEN, SIstah!

            • Robert Eckert

              Governing magazine has an article “Are We Overmedicating Foster Kids?”

    • Captain Howdy

      And the Moonies own the Washington Times.

  • Rita Gregory

    Does anyone know if the Rathbun Inside Edition video is online somewhere?

  • Zer0

    To have your pre-teen years corrupted by 100+ hour slave work weeks
    To have your education limited to a level far below public school standards
    To have your critical thinking ability quashed by a nonsensical invented vocabulary
    To be rendered unemployable

    And to be threatened with a $120,000 bill if you don’t like it…

    THIS is Scientology

    • Larry Moore

      I would love to able to quote the above and be happy to attribute it to you, Zer0, if possible.

      What an beautiful and poignant summation.

      Permission granted?

      • Zer0

        Of course! Thanks:)

    • WhereIsSHE

      This is PROOF of the kind of coercive “relationship” and undue influence that was FORCED upon Laura from the time she entered the Sea Org at age 12.
      TWELVE.

      I’m thinking back on myself at that age.
      I had the good fortune to have wonderful parents, siblings, friends….
      But I also was still young enough to have been “indoctrinated” into my own family’s way of thinking about the world. (I never ate a bite of a snack after school until all of my homework was completed in an earnest fashion; informed my parents about every test, quiz, grade I recieved on any test, quiz or paper/project I turned in, etc. And I continued with this “indoctrinated” behavior pattern all the way through LAW SCHOOL. Never did I have an exam that my parents did not know about ahead of time. Never did I not inform them of my study progress. Never did I not inform them of whatever grade I received. And now it occurs to me that I also “self-reported” to them about employment matters and trial progress…ANd my parents weren’t sec-cking me! They just instilled these “values” in me from an early age!)

      My sister and I recall “happily” doing a myriad of housekeeping chores (even though there was no need to repeat them a day after the housekeeper had done them).
      I recall saying, “I just LOVE wiping the wood furniture clean with ENDUST!! It smells so good!!” when I was like… 7 or 8 yrs old, and feeling “good” that this made my mother happy (but not so much about HER happiness, as about feeling like I was a “good girl” for living up to her expectations.)

      In my profession, we often think of “the law” as some cold, detached construct, and judges are encouraged to apply it in that manner.
      But in this ever changing world in which we ilve in….LIVE AND LET (the Cult of Scientology) DIE.

      To be cold and detached in this kind of case..is to prove oneself unworthy of the bench, IMO.

      • Zer0

        “To be cold and detached in this kind of case..is to prove oneself unworthy of the bench, IMO.”

        Exactly. Well said. The inhumanity and cruelty is obvious. Everyone can see it.

  • whingeybingey

    I read stories like this and I just go, “How is this NOT human trafficking?” and “How much longer will the legal system turn a blind eye to an organisation that does this systematically every day and puts people like Laura through as much legal hell as possible when they eventually get the courage to stand up to them?” Well, the ball’s in your court, judge.

    • WhereIsSHE

      RELIGION. That’s how.
      Sorry to break it to everyone so brightly.
      But that’s the bottom line.
      If the CoS was McDonalds (or some other non-”religion” status organization)… and it treated a minor-employee the way that this “church” treated Laura for even a single DAY of employment, they would be legally accountable.

      But good luck convincing the religious majority of Americans that the GOVERNMENT should have the kind of authority and power to properly INVESTIGATE and PROSECUTE any alleged improprieties in THEIR CHURCHES (or Mosques, Temples, etc.)
      Part of that is due to indoctrination.
      Part of that is due to past discrimination/intolerance.
      Some of the concern is warranted.
      it’s just a shame that people do not trust the ability of their fellow citizens to draw such an obvious distinction.

      • Snippy_X

        These files are more similar, in content and purpose, to medical records (kept by a quack practitioners) than to sacred confessionals. We have a right to access our medical files and hold doctors and psychologists accountable for improper treatments. It is a disgrace when CO$ is allowed to hide behind the cloak of religion to avoid exposing their shifty abuse of trust. All praise the Judge (and his daughter-in-law elect) for calling bullshit on their attempt to play this priest penitent privilege card.

        • WhereIsSHE

          WHA-CHU-TALKIN-BOUT, SNIPPY???
          Judge Waldrip, in TEXAS, said nothing about the priest-penitent privilege.

          Get ‘yer cases and jurisdictions in order, Son! (or Gurrrrrrrrrrrrl!)

          • EnthralledObserver

            Can you really blame us… so many juicy cases and judges, it’s hard to keep them all straight!?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              And besides..Tony BURNED the image into our collective
              Consciousness

            • EnthralledObserver

              Uh huh… it’s HIS fault!

          • Snippy_X

            No no – I fixed it. I don’t know the Supreme court judge’s name so side stepped it. “Judge Waldrop” was just stuck in my head because he’s so, he’s so, oh never mind.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Judge Ricky Gervais… actually. ;)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Easier? Right?

            • EnthralledObserver

              It just… you know… comes to mind. ;)

            • Eclipse-girl

              It is Waldrip

              He has done Monique no harm so I am all for treating him with the respect that he deserves.

              We can hold of on the J/D until after there is a reason to argue a decision he makes.

              Actually, after reading about Judge Sohigian (The judge in Laura’s trial), I have concerns about him.

            • EnthralledObserver

              This man has many names: Judge Colonel Dib Ricky Sanders Gervais Waldrip… but we know above anything else he IS de MAN!

            • Snippy_X

              You got that right! Who dat don’t like the Saints!

            • whingeybingey

              What are your concerns, Eclipse-girl?

            • Snippy_X

              No he’s awesome. I’m not J&D here at all. I just can’t spell.

      • EnthralledObserver

        The cloak of religion should be burned! Go naked… America will be better off for it, if a little chilly.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          You made me chuckle good and hard.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Too bad we were founded by people seeking religious freedom. It kind of led where we are today. Freedom to believe anything you like, but no legal common sense.

  • aegerprimo

    It is OK to doubt. You do not have to route out, just blow. 1-866-XSEA-ORG

    • aegerprimo

      Where is iBetty with those beautiful graphics?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Drunk in a bar on High Street.

        Hey,
        We all must have a night off ;-)

        • aegerprimo

          Is the image appearing now? I went back to an earlier post of hers for the image URL.

          • Eclipse-girl

            You did great.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Nope…but I have an image of i-betty sucking on a mojito tonight…but I won’t post it until she gives me the all clear ( I asked)…and she is probably too shit faced to do that.
            so, well, you know.

            I will just tell ya…she is fucking a lovely drunk!

            • Rita Gregory

              You have an image of her “fucking a lovely drunk” ? :D

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              yep….but I have no permission to post:-(

              edit…its an auto thing…lulz

            • Rita Gregory

              Wouldn’t that be porn? :)

            • Rita Gregory

              Lulz indeed! Thanks I needed that.

            • aegerprimo
          • Bury_The_Nuts

            sorry…had to refresh…

        • aquaclara

          A Bunker pub crawl? I hope she invited you, Bury!

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            ;-)

    • aegerprimo
      • Snippy_X

        Very Nice!

      • aquaclara

        Thank you!

      • Elen

        Beautiful!

  • richelieu jr

    Boy, I doubt anyone will see this, so I’lltrya nd post again tomorrow… I cna’t ahve een the nly one t ge thei ‘top secret’ email from COS… But it seems Tony and his ‘Tent Entheta ™” has really gotten under COB’ skin!

    Check it out:

    “You may have heard about the different security measures like the new event ID cards, but what might be news to you is some of the background. By proving the correctness of COB’s strategy releasing Super Power and GAT II in an unprecedented series of events as well as accelerating the Ideal Org program, our enemies backed by Big Pharma and Psychiatrists have launched a full scale assault on Scientology and COB.

    This really only compares to the Scientology Crusade at “Portland”. For obvious reasons, we cannot give all the details but based on rumor lines, even the new event tent at Flag was necessary to protect COB from vicious attacks.

    As COB explained at the recent graduation he is handling more than 50 different programs within those there are over a dozen lawsuits involving several deaths at Narconon, former staff members suing over having forced abortions and national and international court cases with accusations of fraud and harassment by the IAS and SuperPower. Many of these lawsuits claim COB being the main perpetrator. This is just mentioned to give you an idea of the colossal onslaught by SPs on the church and COB. He cannot even access public streets without risking being approached by a process server trying to serve him with abusive court papers. The tent on church property and the security it provides are of great help to prevent such harassment. You will most likely also see stepped up security measures during the events, as at past events a few SPs have made it into the main location with the purpose to create entheta and upsets.

    Rumors have it that every section of six rows in the event tent will have at least four security investigation officers staffed by RTC Reps or FLAG HCO. They will remove immediately any entheta or public with BI or signs of disaffection and bring them into a secure sec checking area with more than 50 experienced GAT II trained sec checkers standing by.”

    • Rita Gregory

      “He cannot even access public streets without risking being approached
      by a process server trying to serve him with abusive court papers.” Poor COB. It’s hell to have to be responsible for your actions, huh? Abusive court papers? Truth will out.

      • Miss Tia

        When was he last on a public street?! That made me chortle!

        • Noni Mause

          That’s right. COB powers means he just distorts MEST to zap himself from one place to another.

          • Miss Tia

            COB control! HAHA!

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Oh. Ehm. Gee.

      Who wrote this!? They’re actually TELLING their members about the court cases. They’re actually using words like “fraud”, “harassment”, and “forced abortions”, instead of cloaking it in vague inanities like “bitterness” and “SPness”.

      I have to believe that this will cause at least some to question. To go looking for more details. Especially if they already have doubts.

      The cult is indeed desperate. And desperate cult is FAIL cult.

      • Robert Eckert

        He pulled your leg right off.

        • Rita Gregory

          Mine too. :)

        • And I’m Cute, Too

          I’ve been punked? Ah, well. I blame Poe’s Law.

          • KJP in Portland

            Or is it Pouw’s Law?

          • Robert Eckert

            I got burned in the opposite direction on Mike Rinder’s blog by the e-mail announcing the big event for “either a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, sometime before Christmas”: I thought sure that was Mike joking, but it was real.

    • Kitty lover

      This has got to be a joke. Cause it’s way too early for My Christmas present.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Cardinal can be bad…roll with it. ;-)

        • Kitty lover

          Aw ok. I thought so. A girl can dream.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            But when he is bad…he is the very, very best.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Want his autograph? ;-)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Why? did you get it? was he drunk? can we deconstruct it?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I Could get it…….remember?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oh, got confused and thought your thetan already teleported and didn’t tell me,
              Damn timing.
              Get IT.
              and Kiss him for me.
              yeah, you know what i mean

            • KJP in Portland

              No, but I swear, one day I’m going to buy that LRH buttplug and send it to an old Navy buddy I know as a gag!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              You’ve been Punked. Not real bro, just a great rendering or shoop.

            • KJP in Portland

              I like the cardinal when I read his stuff. (her?) stuff? I don’t get on at the same time very much.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              France is a whole mother time zone

    • Eclipse-girl

      If Co$ mentions Narconon doesn’t that show a link?

      • richelieu jr

        Anyone See Colbert interviewing Paul Giamatti this week?
        He said ‘Anyone approaches me, an SP, a Suppressive Personality, I confront, Shatter and suppress.”

        • Eclipse-girl

          damn , now I have go run down that rabbit hole.

        • KJP in Portland

          The only confront, shatter and suppress I see so far is in their brainwashed minds, that’s all I see.

        • tetloj

          A Yale Skull and Bones man a Scilon too…doubt it

    • Room 101

      This is a joke put out – just like the membership cards email asking for bank information. The good thing is it was blasted out to a huge Scilon mailing list so a lot of them are going to think it’s real and OSA will get a lot of “WTF?” calls.

      • Rita Gregory

        That is sweeeeeeeet!

      • richelieu jr

        It certainly makes more (read: some) sense as a joke, but it’s pretty dry humour…
        I’ve got to admit that most Scilon mailings I get are so dense and outlandish and totally rabbit hole-ish that I’ve kind of had to turn off the “This has GOT to be joke, he’s joking, right? RIght…. right…?” part of my brain when dealing with these clowns;..

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Fuckin’-A !!!, Room. Fuckin’-A.

    • EnthralledObserver

      “They will remove immediately any entheta or public with BI or signs of disaffection and bring them into a secure sec checking area with more than 50 experienced GAT II trained sec checkers standing by.”
      Is that even legal?

      • EnthralledObserver

        Ah, nevermind… it was a joke. I thought it sounded too good to be true – that they put that in writing and emailed it out. hahaha

    • tetloj

      Check for traces of ‘thetaburst.org’ on any emails like this you get. Thetaburst.org have the mail list that Debbie Cook’s email went out on and are using ti to troll (very amusingly).

  • Tony DePhillips

    What the cult does in the name of “freedom” and “saving the planet” is really disgusting. Only a psycho leader would so this type of justification.

    • Missionary Kid

      Bingo. You’re right on the mark.

  • Kitty lover

    If you are so inclined, Craigslist in Ventura can use some help. Those shady clams are advertising and not putting Church of Scientology in the ads.

    • Aslansown
      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Want more time in your day?

        Seriously? These fuckers think the can manufacture time?
        Rolls my eyes back so far in my head i look like a Halloween costume!

        • Aslansown

          I know! That’s the one that I laughed at!

        • KJP in Portland

          More time means the 16 hour workdays in the Pee Org, don’t ya think? That’l make a day seem reaaaaaaaaaal long!

      • Rita Gregory

        Done.

      • Miss Tia

        Done!

      • Room 101

        Done

      • aquaclara

        Done!

      • aegerprimo

        Done.

      • KJP in Portland

        Which ones? All that go back to early September? Are they all Sci?

        • Aslansown

          I went ahead and did them all just in case someone comes across them.

          • KJP in Portland

            Goddamn, that Diana can sure cure all sorts of things can’t she {snickersnort!}

            I like the ‘want more time in your day’ one. Oh sure, I’ll just jump right down there and join the Sea Org and make a 16 hour work day just to see how long a day can be! Oh joy! Oh rapture!

          • KJP in Portland

            And…ALL FLAGGED!

    • Elen

      Done… only the first one was removed…. oh Diana, we will cry for you…

    • Snippy_X

      Diana (949) 297-4446 is also violating ebay classifieds terms of service.

      http://orangecounty.ebayclassifieds.com/community/?q=lake+forest%2Cca&catId=100001

      • KJP in Portland

        (3) Flagged…Blammo!

      • Aslansown

        “We are a non-profit organization and volunteering with us counts towards school credit.”

        Is this true?

        • Snippy_X

          Maybe a Venturian could to call and ask? Tape it? I’d like to know what school’s name they are using. Good catch.

          • Aslansown

            I’m in a state that requires both parties to know if something’s being taped (plus I don’t sound young enough to be in school!). Maybe Delphi?

            Also, “We need help handing out free personality tests.”

      • Aslansown

        Just found out they’re on there for Chicago too. Anybody feel like helping me flag?

        http://chicago.ebayclassifieds.com/classified-ads/?q=773.348.7788

        • L. C. Spencer

          I do! For ebay, do we click Fraud/Prohibited or Spam/Duplicates?

          • Aslansown

            Sorry – I just saw this. I wasn’t sure how to flag them either so I think I flagged them spam. They just infuriate me, targeting people who are having a hard time.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Flagged! Don’t know how many flaggers it takes to bring down an ad on eBay, but I sure do like how once you find a post, you can instantly display every ad by that person :-)

    • KJP in Portland

      Even they know their reputation sucks and count on love-bombing in-person, if they can CON anyone into coming…

    • Kitty lover

      So it looks weird to reply here…but wanted to say thanks to you all for helping. Gotta go, you’re a great bunch. I love this place. But real life calls. Peace out.

      • KJP in Portland

        We’ll see you back again!

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    Revoke Tax Exempt Status Of $cientology Inc. Prosecute the scientology corporations and management for illegal acts.

    From a YouTube video posted today by Cat Daddy:

    2008:

    Since early January, an Internet collective known only as Anonymous has
    been exposing the criminal activities and corrupt practices of the
    Church of Scientology (CoS) and its leadership. We do not oppose the
    rights of the “church’s” membership to believe in the “religious” tenets
    of scientology. We oppose the illegal, immoral and deadly acts of its
    leadership and notably their attempts to suppress free speech on the
    internet.

    Six months have past since we first took to the
    streets, and in that time, the impact we are having on closing down this
    sinister organization is amazing. The wins are epic and many.

    As we look forward, the $cientology Corporation should know this: You’re Going To Get What You Deserve. brb, federal indictments.

  • Miss Tia

    I think we ALL need a (((GROUP HUG))) tonight!!! Sending hugs and love to the bunkerites!!!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      hugs baby. U rock.

      • Miss Tia

        Awww, y’all rock!!!This group hug has made me feel better after being so drained today! :)

    • Eclipse-girl

      (((HUGS))) for all. Todays report by Tony was a tough one.

      We stand together working to end this insidious cult, see DM behind bars, and hope that the victims get compensation

      • KJP in Portland

        (((hugs))) to you to Eclipse and yeah, this one was a shitter to read!

      • Miss Tia

        I 2nd that!!

    • aegerprimo

      Thank you!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Mwah! XOXOXO

      • KJP in Portland

        I second that, friend!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          First week on the new job over! Good for you.

          • Miss Tia

            Yes, HOORAY!!!! :)

            • KJP in Portland

              And…ANOTHER company wants to interview me, so what the hell, this might get interesting after all! Because I will say I have a doctor appointment and go interview instead. Then, for once, I can get a better deal in my life out of the working world. That would be sooo sweet!

            • EnthralledObserver

              May you make the right choice for you… (you gotta love it when you get a choice)

            • KJP in Portland

              Only once, 27 years ago, did I get a similar situation. I took the additional money and the 10 minute commute vs. the one-hour commute.

            • EnthralledObserver

              As you would… ;)

    • Rita Gregory

      ((((HUGS))))!

      • KJP in Portland

        I felt it, my friend!

    • KJP in Portland

      Let me get my ol’ butt in the middle (((HUGS!)))

    • SandiCorrena

      Since we are like North Hill cousins let me ask do you follow Brimfield Police Department on twitter?when COS sucks my soul dry Chief Oliver picks me up, dusts mere off and gives giant bear hugs access the miles. Today their job was hard; this was a wretched CO$ day but BPD is worth their weight in gold. When we go to Luigi’s we’ll go feet bear hugs for dessert in Brimfield.

      • Miss Tia

        I never knew they had a twitter account—I knew about the FB page!

        Sounds like a plan!!! :)

    • Verve

      Monkey hug

  • aegerprimo
    • Sarah James

      Nice, this one shouts freedom.

    • ThetaBara

      Love it! Here’s some Chalk Tech from yesterday’s raid in SF:

      • Casabeca

        So proud of you, way to go!

        • ThetaBara

          Thank you. I’ve been beating the drum about “freeloader debt” being illegal (and “don’t route out, just blow”) for a while here. The other day, someone told me to write the freeloader debt line in chalk. I LOL’d, I’ve been writing that since my very first raid!
          Yesterday, the sidewalk was covered. They waited for us to leave and then applied hose tech. Hahaha! They used to come out and act rude but now all they do is walk past, trying not to look, and hide inside.

          From 2010: http://youtu.be/u5yInNK9vHI?t=1m54s

  • KJP in Portland

    Well, howdy all, I’m home! What’s for dinner?

    Tell me please, what does the military-style black ‘name tag’ say on the picture above. I cannot make it out, either here at home or today at work.

    Also, I never seen an ‘enlisted’ Sea Ogre uniform. Here she wears the rank of a Chief Petty Officer. Hmm, in the US Navy, that takes 8-20 years to attain, and only the highest qualified PO1s become ‘Chiefs’. Strange, that fake Navy.

    As for her slavery at the tender age of 12 and up, I am still spitting bullets and want to punch-out LRH and his evil successor, Moldy Muckscabbage!

    But someone, please bring me up to speed what the sentence on that name tag says. I don’t want to read through 1,500 posts :(

    (((HUGS!)))

    • Miss Tia

      Dunno what the name tag says, but re: “fake Navy”, why isn’t the REAL Navy a little upset of how the CO$ has sort of created their OWN little Navy? It’s truly disrespectful to all former and current Navy members!! Makes a mockery out of military, in my opinion.

      Enslaving children wants me to spit bullets too—perhaps we could coordinate and have a machine gun spitting bullet effect?

      Have a GREAT evening!! YEAH!! First week at work!!! CONGRATS!! ((HUGS))

      • KJP in Portland

        (((hugs))) I made it a whole week! I believe they actually purchase surplus uniforms, or somehow get them through the Navy Exchange systems (seems REALLY unlikely). But the whites are definitely the 70s-80s female uniform-type. Perhaps they have their own tailors, seamstresses in the Slave Org manufacturing them at one of their ‘affiliated’ companies.

        And yeah, it’s a knock on us real ex-sailors to see that ludicrous shit. I was Aviation Navy (meteorology), so ‘sailor’ sometimes still sounds weird. I was an ‘airman’, then 2 grades of petty officer. Being called a seaman, I never had to be addressed as, lol! I was a carrier-sailor (Enterprise…”We are Legend!”)

        We could at least send our local orgs mail with tons of spit in it? I’d like that! It’s non-violent too!

        • Miss Tia

          That’s an interesting question—where they get their uniforms. Of course they could order ‘em made somewhere cheap!

          TOTAL knock on REAL members/former members of the Navy! And yes, you ARE Legend! :)

      • EnthralledObserver

        It’s more than disrespectful, I think it is dangerous… one because a person might mistake them for the real navy and heed any advice given, and two, it makes it seem that the real navy somehow endorses $cieno and it’s b.s.

        • KJP in Portland

          I never thought of the ‘endorse’ angle. Thank God, our Navy does NOT endorse their existence.

          • EnthralledObserver

            They need to stand up and say so VERY publically… just in case this is not entirely understood by everyone.

    • ThetaBara

      There’s a reason we call it the Damnation Navy. More than one, actually.

    • Laura Dieckman

      It says “Invest & Evals Dir CMO IXU Commodore’s Messenger I/T” = Investigations & Evaluations Director Commodores Messenger Organization International Extension Unit. I/T = In training.

      • Robert Eckert

        Laura, we are honored. Your courage is an inspiration.

      • SLIM

        We love and care about you Laura…
        You’re fighting the “Good” fight…
        You’re bravery is also commendable…
        We are all rooting for you to win….
        As tough as that might be….

      • Rita Gregory

        It’s an honor to see you Laura. You are one strong lady! :)

      • Laura Dieckman

        Thanks <3 I am always lurking. I just don't say much. As I have said before, the support here is overwhelming.

        Edit: I didn't mean to answer that to myself — but those that commented.

        • Rita Gregory

          You certainly have our support and I hope it’s overwhelming in a good way!

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Thank you Laura, your example helps many.

        • Narapoid

          All the power to you in this long walk. Cherish you pilgrim.

      • Elen

        Thank you Laura!! I hope you are receiving all our love, good thoughts, beautiful wishes and positive vibes we send your way!! So many want to hug you!! Consider yourself hugged!! (X100,000,000,000)

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Keep your head up, always. You have so much respect here, and you have my thoughts and prayers.

      • KJP in Portland

        THANK YOU LAURA! I was trying like mad to decipher the tag!

      • L. C. Spencer

        LAURA, it’s you!!!!! You are honored here! You will never know how many people are behind you. You have a world of supporters. What we can do for you, we will, if you need it. Thank you for your courage. It will end up helping not only you but a great many young people you’ve never even met.

  • KJP in Portland

    Here’s a thought: (I know, Bury is rolling her eyes at me again! lol!)

    K stands on the soapbox…wait! I’m 5’10! The soapbox is for Moldy Maggotage!

    I think The Bunker and this MAGNIFICENT group of regulars here are a great help, in itself, for depression. It sure as hell helped ME out a lot!

    I couldn’t have picked a better forum / blog to come and read every morning and night. I am truly blessed to be “allowed to be one of, The Crowd”!

    Thank you all!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Not that I have any authority, but you’re welcome! :D

      • KJP in Portland

        You are one of the very ones I mention EO! Thank you!

      • Elen

        Oh, you have the f#@kin’ authority to say that!!!

    • IBBy

      i absolutely agree on the bunker helping a girl get over some bumps. I wasnt as active in the last few days, yesterday got too political for me, today I was doing the work of two as my teammate somehow ended up in jail :/ classy.

      But I still peek in, and it makes me glad to see us usually getting along and sharing support and laughs

    • Zana

      I read it every morning and night. And check it multiple times a day. Is that an addiction? Hmmmm… LOL.

  • KJP in Portland

    MK, paging MK!

    Another one: “Slave Org”

    • Missionary Kid

      Got it. Here’s my list of Sea Org nicknames. Refresh.
      Sea Org Nicknames:
      Bot Scouts
      damnation navy
      Davey Navy
      Droids
      Make Believe Navy
      Sans Orgasm
      Sea Aaargh
      Sea Morg
      Sea Ogres
      Sea Orgiasts
      Seaborgs
      Slave Org

      SeaOrg: Come for the Slavery, stay for the table scraps.
      SeaOrg: Where Toilet and Toothbrush meet.
      Sea Borg . . . Persistence is futile.

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    Laura, you are the Malala of Scientology. One of many, just as Malala represents an untold number of girls and young women who are brutalized under yet another religion’s outrageous and evil claim to absolute truth on the role of women.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I was thoroughly disgusted in reading the details of Laura’s story. And if that weren’t upsetting enough, I hear the news that Malala was passed over for the Nobel Peace Prize. For lack of a better way to describe it, today was simply a bummer.

      • KJP in Portland

        I agree Jimmy3, but we’ll see better days here. Tony had to balance it out a bit AND the story is riveting as hell.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I don’t think Tony has to balance anything, he writes on what he has to report. We knew the grounds of her suit, but with the release of the documents, it was the first detailed account of her story that I had seen.

        • Rita Gregory

          It was a rough day for all of the Bunkerites today. Laura’s story is heartrending (somehow heartrending doesn’t seem adequate), but this is one of many reasons why we are gathered here together. END THIS EVIL.

          • KJP in Portland

            (((hugs Rita!)))

            • Rita Gregory

              (((hugs)))! Back atcha KJP!

          • Zana

            “END THIS EVIL.” !!

            Free the Slaves!!

      • 1subgenius

        Don’t want to get into a long discussion but being bummed out or upset about Malala’s getting “passed over” is perhaps a bit of an overreaction, although you certainly aren’t the only one who feels she should have “won”..
        There were many who have done much in the struggle for peace that didn’t get one either.
        Malala will be a powerful symbol of many things, for years to come. She certainly inspires me.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I said it was a bummer day in general.

  • KJP in Portland

    Nametag…”REQUEST A x x x x COMMODORE’S MESSENGER x” (The x’s are for illegible words)

  • KJP in Portland

    I must’ve stepped in something…everybody’s avoiding me, ha!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Nah… it’s just that time of day. I was just thinking that myself, but then I looked at the clock.

      • KJP in Portland

        It’s 9pm here, midnight on the East Coast and I’m guessing tomorrow around 4pm your time?

        • EnthralledObserver

          2pm…
          We always seem to be the last ones here together… people are going to start spreading rumours. :p
          So, on that note, to preserve our reputations, I’m off… (well, the truth is my son has a game of Union, and I’m going to go watch… so I’ll catch you all later :D )

          • KJP in Portland

            Have fun!

    • Snippy_X

      I’m in lurking mode. I go non verbal at this time of night.

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    To Tom Cruise, Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, Bijou Phillips, Erika Christensen, Giovanni Ribisi, Beck, Anne Archer:

    The most ethical religion on the planet? Your tacit agreement with the management of Church of Scientology International says everything I need to know about you all. You approve of asking 12 year old girls and 12 year old boys questions such as:

    • IBBy

      I listed celebs over on the nbc or abc news article, called em out. the more theyre listed and the more these atrocities come out, they cant keep hiding behind stupidity

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Fantastic, IbbY. As far as the most well-known Church of Scientology International members go, what you said about calling them out, so to speak, on every platform available, is so true:

        the more they’re listed and the more these atrocities come out, they cant keep hiding…”

        These members listed, and more, are going to have to speak to the issues of their religion, someday.

        • IBBy

          People know about Tom, John and Kirstie. They may not know about the others, so continuing to attach them over and over again will get it in peoples brains. Anytime there is a story about a celeb that happens to be Scientologist, I’m going to start making the connections, linking to tonys blog, and posting the sea org number

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            You rock, IBBy !!!

          • Room 101

            Good job!

          • ThetaBara

            Great idea!

      • Rita Gregory

        Ab Fab IBBy! :)

  • Snippy_X

    Today

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Exactly, S_X.

      It is always worse than anyone thinks.

  • skippress

    I hope she wins a jillion dollars from the cult – it’s certainly trending that way.

  • KJP in Portland
  • Snippy_X

    Clues to where it all went wrong on L.Ron’s time track:

  • KJP in Portland
    • Guest

      .

    • Rita Gregory

      Someone we all love has replied to your sign request down thread. :)

  • KJP in Portland

    I guess it’s ‘K reads weird shit night’…sorry…

    • Snippy_X

      :| yeah been there.

  • KJP in Portland

    But ya gotta read THIS ONE. Someone got their justice in a certain sort of way you wouldn’t expect…

    http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/viral-obit-mother-child-abuse/?utm_source=outbrainFTW5&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=FTW5

    • Snippy_X

      –> “her … hatred of the gentle or kind human spirit.” A true sociopath where she now belongs. Amen.

    • Lars Rosenquist

      Yeah – Teegeeack certainly got a fair share of ASSHOLES.

      Some bigger than others. To me LRH and David Miscavige are in the DELUXE edition.

  • Orglodyte

    Lots of reading, no posts today. I just want to pipe up and say I think the Underground Bunker is the Internet at its very best.

  • Room 101

    I just spoke to the God of Intelligence. He’s informed me that it’s virtually impossible for these laconic pedants to garner summary judgment – this just in…..yes, even IF hell is freezing over that day.

    I’ve met my share of narcissists and sociopaths in my life – mostly through being a part of Scientology. The truth is they’re the most pathetic creature to watch in the throes of defeat. When a person commits such egregious, unconscionable acts their whole life to the point of being a stoic to their effects, it hits them like a ton of bricks when it does finally register and their world crashes. This is the lot OSA and HCO can expect.

    • Narapoid

      They don’t like to be “made” wrong.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Like their brains infected with rabies, their behavior becomes rabid; anti-social; detestable; inhumane. What is must be like when it does finally register– the shame alone should be bone-crushing.

    • Nevermore

      How do they react to that/cope with it? (Not snark, genuine question!)

      • Room 101

        You’ve witnessed it. Look at the ex-Scn who held positions of power where they abused that power heavily. They end up going into hiding and hitting a bottle or just becoming hermits for about 3-5 years. Then they become obsessed with trying to make things right and speaking out about the cult for the rest of their lives. The pain comes in the fact that they never get to go live a real life. They spend years contributing to an evil group, then years trying to undo what they did. It’s a vicious cycle that they all fall victim to.

  • Narapoid

    I’ve been rocking cross country and hours later, I am bitterly disappointed the wider media hasn’t picked this up yet. I guess they will come in after the courtroom ass kickings and THEN dog pile afterward.

    Maybe after the Time suits, they are gun shy. Edward R Morrow is dead, long live Bill O’Reilly…. *gag*

    • Nevermore

      I’ve contacted the Mail in the UK – they’re no strangers to Scientology stories. Here’s hoping thy give Tony a call!

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    Chairman, Religious Technology Center (RTC), Dave Miscavige, sole control, as Captain of Sea Organization, over all corporate and unincorporated entities of the Church of Scientology International, is authorizing legal expenditures, just in the United States, of perhaps $60 million in 2013, alone. Or more.

    In 1981 – just in the USA – Bill Franks, Executive Director of the Church of Scientology worldwide, who knew, stated there were 110 lawyers working on scientology cases and initiatives. The bill, he stated, was $2 million per month, $24 million per yr. Today, that is, $5 million per month and $60 million per year. Just in the United States.

    • Barbara Angel

      Oh yes further proof of such a “”"”Religious”"”" organisation. How holy of them, to think of the welfare of all the starving lawyers. Best way is for members to stop donating, then Dwarfenfuror will have to dip into his Billion $ slush fund to pay for the starving lawyers and of course he won’t do that, as he’s ADDICTED to moneeeeey, to much moneeeeey is not enough for him!

      • Narapoid

        ;)

    • 0tessa

      So, Scientology Inc is a moneymaking machine for the legal profession actually.
      Scientology has become a milk cow herself!

  • Exterrier

    I am compelled to comment again, even though this posting of a summary of Laura’s folders by Tony leaves me choking mad, outraged, depressed and sickened. nearly to speechlessness. Grrrrrrr…… Like John P says, this article by Tony, and the first few posts speak for themselves. It, to me, is the most powerful thing put up so far, and is so well documented as it turns out.

    But I will add this, because it weighs on me heavily as I write this. I WAS AROUND when this was happening. I saw so many young people especially, and others, in that same uniform, trudging about at all hours, getting on and off buses going to their quarters. I used to give the Sea Org staff rides to the really creepy Wilcox building in Hollywood, late at midnight after the end of course time. Underneath the rah rah, and devotion to duty, and exhaustion, there was a kind of sadness at some times, or some sort of denial or disconnected vibe. I was recruited heavily to go into it, in fact…..but I saw that I would no longer be me, no longer spending mornings reading the daily paper, forming opinions on the world, staying in touch with my professional contacts, being creative…… They are not allowed to be creative…there is only ONE CREATOR and that is “Source”, Ron. They are not allowed to be themselves, and young people are not educated or prepared for anything but servitude in perpetuity.

    I feel terrible because I was there, and did not see it. I am feeling terrible and sick about it now. I am writing this out for me, I guess, as kind of a catharsis.
    Why did I not see it? Because it was worse than I could imagine…..Too Big to See.
    Reason two: The staff are trained to “mock up” a purposefulness, and ignore their real reactions and sadness, as “human emotion and reaction” H, E, and R, as they say, and also as “Case on Post”, which is an “overt”. So they don’t share feelings, even with each other, and especially not with a public giving them a ride to their rat infested “berth”, with six people bunked in a room in a slumlord building. That’s how they live. So they don’t exactly let you see it.
    Reason three: They are brainwashed, mostly, and think that it is THEY who are wrong, flawed, so they will never let you know anything is wrong…or themselves, in most cases, and even exhibit a sort of zeal and pride in how they live, in some cases, as they believe they should feel sorry for the rest of us, especially WOGS, who are controlled by the evil Psychs.
    I am sure Tory Christman could tell you more about all the thinking that goes on under the influence of Ron’s almost air tight psychological prison.
    There is that famous quote: “The best kind of slave doesn’t know that he is one”. Boy, does that ever apply in the case of Silentology.
    But I am still feeling awful that I was there and around it, especially kids, and just did not see it for what it really was. I can deal with that…a small sadness and personal. But my heart, my sympathies, and above all, my admiration and support goes to someone like Laura, actually to Laura personally, with all of her courage and persistence, who just may single handedly, with Tony’s help, and maybe some other media, put an end to all of this one day.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Clever mind fuck. Glad you are out. Hugs. Also, thank you.

    • 1subgenius

      Your testimony might be helpful to Laura’s attorneys. You may wish to contact them. A copy paste of your post would give them a good idea of whether it would be helpful.
      Even trying would help your feelings of guilt.

    • Drat

      The best kind of slave is actually one who thinks he is going free, to the promised land. Did you see Cloud Atlas?

      One point that may or may not have been mentioned here is Hubbards’s (and therefore Co$) capacity to paint good pictures and bad pictures of people and get you to shuffle over to the group of “good people”. Well, one of the (many) things that are deemed “very bad” is “being a victim”. “Seeking pity”. That, alone, is enough to stop people from suing. To sue, you have to admit you have been wronged. But that would mean you were a victim, which would mean you are accusing somebody else and therefore are actually in blame, and therefore have overts (transgressions) against the accused, and therefore are the real evil one here.

      So besides avoiding being “griefy” or any other “tone” below 2.0 on the tone scale, one also does not wish to be perceived as acting as though one were a victim, “attention seeking” and on and on. Neither does one want to be associated with someone that isn’t “making things go right”. All of this adds up to “DB” (degenerated being).

      So to you, Exterrier, well done on not joning. You are lending you voice here as many are. Some have for years, and I admire them for their persistence. If you read Robert Levine’s statement, and particularly his explanation of learned helplessness, you may understand better what the SO staff were going through. And perhaps you rationalised it for yourself, thinking “they are on purpose, it’s their calling, what they want” and then not looked into the matter more closely. We live in the time of honesty now, and that includes honesty with yourself. It helps work through this whole mess.

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        >>>To sue, you have to admit you have been wronged. But that would mean you
        were a victim, which would mean you are accusing somebody else and
        therefore are actually in blame, and therefore have overts
        (transgressions) against the accused, and therefore are the real evil
        one here.

        The huge turning point, inside a person’s inner core, is this statement; thank you, Drat, for pointing it out clearly. So many revelations over the decades show, for example, incidents of rape. The girl/woman tells her ‘superiors’; the female who was assaulted is told they will handle it; the rapist is not held accountable, the Police or Sheriff authorities are not contacted; the assaulted female returns to her post; the rapist returns to his post

        It is uber sick.

      • Exterrier

        Thanks Drat,
        These is thoughtful, and adds more to the understanding. I hope the never in’s have a look at this as well, so we don’t simply think that the people caught up in this are deficient, or somehow vastly different from the not ins. There but for the grace, etc. I will follow up on the sources you mention….
        This can be a very educational blog, in additions to all its other functions. Each thing encountered is a lesson, and maybe the body of literature that is coming about as a result of Scientology will lead to the most refined understanding of mind control yet, and help future generations, in fact. It might be Lron’s real and only contribution, after all.

        • Drat

          I hope that at the very least, it will contribute to a better and broader understanding of how mind control can be exercised, and perhaps prevented.

          I sometimes see the same control strategies (black hat/white hat, insinuation, enforced concepts of how you ought to be and what you ought to do) used on “indy” blogs and it makes me sad. They are still acting it out. We all do, to some degree, it is not unique to Co$. But since we’ve had the experience, we should know better and curtail it – at some point.

          • Exterrier

            Wisely stated. I would think that smart, fully recovered ex scns would make great cult counsellers. Sadly, anyone in an Indie group is still addicted, or should I say infected, and does not fully see the built in control mechanisms. It would make me nuts to be around them at this point. I hope they drift further and further from Ron as they go on.

    • Noni Mause

      Your post has made me feel so sad for all these horribly off young people.

  • DodoTheLaser

    I suggest new scientology/sea org contract addendum:

    Please, do not apply:

    - If you are planning on missing your family and/or feeling sad about it
    - If you are the type who inclined to get pregnant and can’t get over forced abortions
    - If you distaste false imprisonment, even if we think it’s a good thing in the grand scheme of things
    - If you already experienced the above, went Clear/OT and still feel griefy

    Much Love, Your friends from the most ethical planetary clearing department.

  • beavertoncivilrights

    Beaverton Civil Rights group recommends a complete boycot of Scientology goods and services.

  • cr0ft

    Extending the protections extended to “legitimate” churches to these insane cultists is just wrong. All churches are bad for humanity, but this isn’t a church, it’s a bunch of abusive cultists getting rich off exploiting the weak, and the fact that the USA accepts these bottom feeders as a religion is (yet another) national shame.

    • EnthralledObserver

      This is not directed at you cr0ft – just a place for me to have a rant.
      NO organization, religious or not, ought to allowed to do anything in secret… full transparency!!!!!! Now, I’m not talking about ‘secret recipes’ or protecting plans until they are copyrighted… or anything so banal, I’m talking about the treatment of people, staff, funds, etc. The US has gone WAY overboard in allowing such secrecy – it’s ridiculous that authorities can’t even check the books at the least! Wasn’t it obvious that ‘religions’ with such freedoms and lack of transparency would be taken over by those seeking to take advantage??? Maybe it’s the cynic in me, but I could have seen this coming a mile away. These sorts of organisations, who don’t have to contribute to societal benefit beyond saying they do, or maybe not even that, should be the MOST scrutinized, not the least!

      • i-Betty

        Hear, hear.

  • YenoMeno

    Oh wow they should be ashamed of themselves!

    http://www.GoGetPrivacy.tk

    • Nevermore

      I don’t know what that is a link to, but my PC doesn’t like it, and Hearsay can’t provide a description of it. Yet all 20 of your comments exist only to peddle a link to it?

      • EnthralledObserver

        Whew… thank goodness I read your comment before clicking on that link… I’m not using a condom (my internet security has expired). :p

        • Nevermore

          Condoms AND the pill for me – in security terms! ;-)

        • ThetaBara

          I’m still seeing it – did you flag? (To the far right click the little flag.)

          • EnthralledObserver

            Done… thanks.

    • i-Betty

      Flagged.

      Thanks, Never :)

  • L Ron Fucktard

    I’m amazed none of these Sea Org members have gone nuts and blown all their minders to kingdom come. Stay strong and keep that discovery flowing! I want to know more about this cancer called Scientology.

    • ThetaBara

      You’ve come to the right place. There is a ton of info here.

  • mook
    • Nevermore

      The comment by Dr Akula is very interesting.

  • Hava Nagila

    IM DYIN’ FOR THA NEW BIG NEWS TONY! WHATIZIT? lol

    • EnthralledObserver

      Is there more coming today? Did Tony say something?

  • NevahIn

    New Flash: The word “Ethics” has just filed for a restraining order. All CoS members are ordered to keep at least 10 Km away from the word “Ethics”. The judge expressed sympathy for the abuse the word suffered at the hands of the CoS.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Amen! I also hear in other news reports that other words are now coming forward to object to the mangling of their meaning by CO$ members since 1950.

  • DodoTheLaser

    It’s ironic and refreshing how USA, the very birth of scientology is now following the path of Germany, France, Russia, Belgium, Canada, Australia and United Kingdom regarding scientology – finally monitoring and reporting related associations and abuses. Hopefully regulating and handling will follow.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Evening/morning Dodo…

      • DodoTheLaser

        :)

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Hopefully, DTL. Hopefully…

  • http://www.amongtech.com/ Niels Bosch

    Can anyone TL;DR please?

    • kevin

      Take your ADHD meds?

      • Snippy_X

        and/or “chunk it” – it’s a week worth of daily insights that way.

    • Tomato Thetan

      Sorry you’re getting down voted, Niels. Many here are glad you’ve stopped by. Thing is, her whole story is important, so put on a pot of coffee and dig in.

    • i-Betty

      I hope you take the time to read Tony’s latest blog about Laura. Her story personifies everything that is wrong with scientology. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts :)

    • ThetaBara

      No. Start reading and see if you don’t find it more compelling than you expect.

  • James Cope

    Good job contradicting yourself there Scientology!

    “Anyone attempting an abortion is committing an act against the
    whole society and the future; any judge or doctor recommending an
    abortion should be instantly deprived of position and practice,
    whatever his “reason.”

    –Dianetics, page 161

  • ashbhorn

    Third page is down. “Database connection error” or something.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Keep trying.. It will come up..

  • Duncan Northrop

    How does Scientology get a hold of people? Are members just unaware that L. Ron Hubbard was a near complete failure as a sci-fi author, and even had a character in one of his books who discusses that the best way to become super wealthy is to create a religion, and convince the sheep who attend that you are in fact the Godhead of said church. I guess all I can conclude is that they continue to get away with their crap ( scientologists ) because they are like those internet whores. They don’t force you to join or hand over your cash, and since the inexcusably stupid do this all of their own free will, they can continue to claim no crime was ever committed.

    You go get them, Laura, I wish you all the best in your efforts to take this false religion to task.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      It is truly, indeed, a false religion, DN. $cientology Inc., in the fake construct of Church of Scientology International/ Religious Technology Center/ Church of Spiritual Technology, is a business, masquerading as a religion. The only reason Lafayette Ronald formed a church is because he wanted his *quasi-therapy* business to be able to avoid paying business taxes. Period.

    • TonyOrtega

      It was Hubbard himself, not a character in a book, who talked about making money through religion. We had a fun discussion here about that with the legendary Harlan Ellison a few months back…

      http://tonyortega.org/2013/02/16/scientology-mythbusting-with-jon-atack-making-a-million/

    • John Pombrio
  • FSGWEG

    DOWN WITH ISLAM AND SCIENTOLOGY.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Sorry, F– there are hundreds and hundreds of millions of peaceful, loving, compassionate Muslim people, the world over. If you had said ‘down with Islamic terrorists’, then you would have been on the mark, equating those terrorists with the inhuman monsters inside $cientology Inc.’s membership.

      • Room 101

        Well put

    • i-Betty

      I hope that the fact that the only person who has given you an up-vote is called ‘IHateFatChicks’ will give you some idea of how we feel about your comment.

      ;-)

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    If you are new here and get down voted for innocuous comments. It is probably a lonely Sciloon who has been given the job of “shattering suppression”.
    We get them all the time.

    It is a badge of honor here.

  • IHateFatChicks

    Scientology is the only religion that is worse than Mormonism. It’s really not a religion. It’s about money.

    • Room 101

      Scientology is as bad is it gets when it comes to control, manipulation and destroying their perceived enemies. The “enemies” which get the majority of their wrath are usually former dedicated members, which makes it all the more tragic.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      All about the money! Righto.

    • RageMojo

      All Churches and religions are about money or control. Why does the Pope need a golden throne?? I don’t remember Jesus teaching about that.

    • John Pombrio

      I donno. I was with the Moonies for a year in California and I ended up working selling flowers out of a van for 15 hours a day, sleeping in the van with 6 others, getting leftover food from restaurants at night, for 2 weeks at a stretch. Oh yeah, no pay. The amount of money we made selling roses was over a thousand bucks a day back in ’75. I still flash back to the van when I smell roses…

  • aquaclara

    The only “religious secrets” found in those documents were of the evil, illegal and oppressive sort. The appeals and suits filed by the cult in this case so far have all been based on yet more fraud, and I hope the lawyers and judges are taking notice.

    We love you, Laura!

    • RageMojo

      All Churches are about money or control. Why does the Pope need a golden throne?? I don’t remember Jesus teaching about that.

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    Coercive Persuasion: $cientology’s technology.

    How thousands of $cientology Inc. SeaOrg staff – teen-age children and child-bearing-aged women – are coerced into having abortions. Decade after decade after decade, in the United States of America and the world over: the statement from an appendix to existing briefs in the Lawrence Wollersheim vs. Scientology, Case No. C332027 case. Their purpose was to inform the court as to the actual history, nature, activities, and goals of Scientology as opposed to what Scientology’s propaganda machine would like the court to believe.

    “Scientology has a single distinguishing element, beyond the international pattern of criminal and coercive
    activities mentioned in the other appendices. This element, Coercive Persuasion, adds an additional intimidating and formidable peril to this already “extraordinary” organization.

    Coercive persuasion, or thought reform, [2] is a coordinated technology of gradually applied, coercive influence
    and behavioral control. The program’s originators implement this technology to profit in some way, usually politically or financially. [3]

    Usually applied in a group setting, the victims are unaware that it is their organizational “friends and
    allies” who are surreptitiously applying the techniques. This is effective because it keeps the victim from putting up the ego defense mechanisms we normally maintain in known adversarial situations.

    The essential strategy used by the operators of these programs is to systematically select, sequence, and
    coordinate many coercive, anxiety, and stress producing tactics over continuous periods of time. In such a program the subject is forced to adapt in a series of tiny “invisible” steps. Each step is sufficiently small and minor so that the subject does not notice the change in themselves. They do not become aware of the hidden organizational purpose of the program until later, if ever.

    Coercive persuasion acts to gradually [4] overcome the will without convincing the judgment. The victims lose
    their ability to make independent decisions and exercise an informed consent. Their defenses, cognition, values, attitudes, conduct, and ability to reason have been technologically undermined.”

    http://www.american-buddha.com/cult.coercivepersuasionscientology.htm

  • John Knoefler

    This religion would do fantastic in North Korea. From there it can spread to mainland China and south to South Korea. It would be an awesome mind control tool. Thanks Sea Org for showing us the way.
    From an Ex-scientology member. So glad I woke up early and told them to piss off.

    • i-Betty

      So glad I woke up early and told them to piss off.

      So am I :-)

      (But I wouldn’t wish CoS on anyone!)

  • i-Betty

    The word ‘griefy’ needs to come with a warning. It’s been 24 hours since I read that section in Laura’s notes and I thought I’d got over it, until I read Dodo’s post below and it hit me like a boot in the stomach once again.

    A little girl trying to express her inner torment and inventing the ‘perfect’ word in the process. :-(

  • Dean Fox

    It seems clear that Laura was under duress most of the time and under “undue influence” when she might otherwise not be under duress. Hopefully the Judge will see fit to rule that the statute of limitations started when Laura was free from the “undue influence”* of the church of scientology, that being the time when she became aware she could do something to redress what had happened; I gather this may be thorny though because the general rule is that the limitation period begins when the plaintiff’s cause of action accrues or is made to be aware of the injury that might have happened a long time ago (e.g.asbestos injury).

    It will be problematic if the judge is inclined to rule that the statute of limitations started from when the injury happened rather than when Laura became aware that it was something she could do something about. One could argue Laura was not aware of the damage because of her conditioning from such an early age but then her own testimony suggests she knew it was wrong at the time in so much as she fought against the coerced abortion BUT she was convinced because of “undue influence”. She may have more running with the labour law violations since she could have reasonably believed her working conditions to be the “norm” when in fact they weren’t. One could argue that her paying back the $10,000 was a sign she was still under the damaging influence of the church of scientology and in someway was not aware of the damage that had been done to her; it’s tricky because the statute of limitations isn’t geared up to dealing with cult influence but it’s perhaps possible. The judge would have to consider appeals in making a good argument for this; I hope he isn’t a lazy judge.

    * “undue influence” A judicially created defense to transactions that have been imposed upon weak and vulnerable persons that allows the transactions to be set aside.

    Virtually any act of persuasion that overcomes the free will and judgment of another, including exhortations, importunings, insinuations, flattery, trickery, and deception, may amount to undue influence. Undue influence differs from duress, which consists of the intentional use of force, or threat of force, to coerce another into a grossly unfair transaction. Blackmail,Extortion, bad faith threats of criminal prosecution, and oppressive Abuse of Process are classic examples of duress.

  • Kim

    I just finished reading all the documents and I cried for all the pain and suffering that was caused this young
    woman and all the women like her. She lost her childhood and suffered abuse beyond anything that can be
    imagined. I hope that the release of these documents opens the floodgates to countless lawsuits and the eventual jailing of the midget who was in charge. Like Warren Jeffs he deserves a long long time behind bars without any privileges or perks – doing hard manual labour for the rest of his days.

    • John Pombrio

      So he should stay in the church then? That to me would be punishment enough…

      • Kim

        LOL made me smile – only if he has to stay in the hole

  • Shaithias

    Shit…. I think its time to break out the pitchforks and torches. Its high time we get to administer some cowboy justice and have us a hanging! Scientology owns the legal system and has enough money to win any legal case. There is no justice in today’s legal system. Only endless hearings and trials and maybe a fine for the rich. These people need to be executed!!!

    • Barbara Angel

      Today I’m angry enough to agree. Should we send out a message that says….”All unauthorised Violence has been approved…” lol

      • sugarplumfairy

        Again, not funny..

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Shite, BA — stifle the weirdnesses. Your thinkingnesses are blowing it.

        See SugarPlum’s word.

        • Barbara Angel

          @ AD I’m allowed to vent and I’m allowed to think what I like. This blog has No Place For the **Thought Police**, thank you. Kind regards Barbara Angel

          • sugarplumfairy

            You’re not allowed to incite violence.. Only a squirrel busting scientologist would do that..

            • Barbara Angel

              I’m allowed to vent. There is no place for the ***Thought Police*** on this blog. If you want to tell people how and what to think maybe you should go back to $cos I’m a never been in, thank God. But I won’t be told what I can think or vent by you. Thank you. Kind regards. B.A.

            • sugarplumfairy

              You’re welcome..

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Of course, BA, all can think what they like. No thought police policing you. Simply put– go advocate VIOLENCE somewhere else. And button your lip about it here. imo.

            • Barbara Angel

              No thought policing indeed?? Then maybe You should go and button your lip. You’ve over reacted and jumped on something which was an actual line taken from the movie “The Blues Brothers”, by the time they used the line, “all unauthorised violence has been approved”…. Jake and Elwood had Legions of Law enforcement chasing them as they had upset everyone, then the camera pans to a Police official who uses that line in a very dead pan way. It was quite funny a funny line in the movie. But no, not for someone like you, you would rather blow something way out of proportion, next you will accuse me of offering to make bombs or something? As a grandmother my speciality is chocolate mud cake made with almond meal. Kind regards. B.A.

            • ReneeG

              You are obnoxious and your comments are worthless.

            • Barbara Angel

              We are all a reflexion of each other, looking in the mirror are you?

            • ReneeG

              You are obnoxious and your comments are worthless.

            • Barbara Angel

              Mirror Mirror on the wall……………

            • Candygram

              So… You’re a five year old..

            • Barbara Angel

              I think you might be in urgent need of a sedative or Prozac or something???

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            Not violence, BA. Advocating violence is the shits. In spades.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Barbara, advocating violence has no place here. Please go somewhere else. Violent words can have violent consequences, and that is not okay. Don’t talk to me about free speech. Have you ever heard that saying that your right to free speech ends when you shout “fire” in a crowded theater?

        • Barbara Angel

          You’ve over reacted and have become the Thought Police. Maybe you should go somewhere else and tell people what they can think or say. I’ve been watching this hideous Cult get away with horrible shocking violence, since I became aware of them in 1997. Perhaps you should be writing to the Cult and tell them about violence having consequences. Clearly you like telling people what they can and can’t say, is this left over from your time in the Cult or are you still in?

          • sugarplumfairy

            You’re kind of fitting the bill, Angel..

            Per MLT, again:

            “Us doddering old guard, like Tory and Arnie and Gerry and others remember the wild an wooly days of dodge city, otherwise know as alt.religion.scientology. Fondly referred to as a.r.s.
            ‘ole Bill, who worked for the OSA team would create multitudes of fake identities, provide them with believable back stories, even provide plausible sounding personal experiences to build trust and create ‘personal connection’.
            Ole Bill was a gunslinger and a quick change artist who could talk to 10 different threads and other posters all at the same time using these different identities, logins and internet accounts set up in different cities under different names.
            A lot of time was invested in figuring out just who people were, what their back stories were and what they had as ‘buttons’ that could be triggered.
            Once it was figured out, a firefight would occur, starting between the sock puppets, (the synthetic identities), designed to trigger various people to choose sides and attack others, create offline cliques of posters who talked behind the back of other posters and eventually get every one accusing everyone being an OSA troll or agent or whatever.
            The end result was trust went out the window, no one wanted to hang out and share any more, no one wants to play in a cesspool. It ended a.r.s. as a community and left it as a bunch of wounded wary-eyed veterans.
            My read is that the current incarnation of the Bill Yaude program has finally reached critical mass where they think they can ruin the Bunker. It’s too effective. Too many connections are made, too many stories are shared for scientology to allow it to exist.”

          • Candygram

            Jesus. Enough with the fucking blues brothers. Take your sock puppets and re-enact the movie on your own time.

        • Barbara Angel

          “All unauthorised violence has been approved” is a line taken from a movie called the Blues Brothers. At the time Jake and Elwood had a legion of Law Enforcement agents and baddies chasing them as they had upset everybody. The camera pans to the police officer and he uses than line in a dead pan way, it was a very funny line in the movie. You’ve over reacted and some how have blown the whole thing out of proportion. So maybe you need to go somewhere else so you can tell people what they can think and say. There is no place for the ‘Thought Police’ here, that belongs in $cientology. Thank you.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Like I said, even in jest it isn’t funny..

            • Barbara Angel

              Get a life, you’ve come back and back needling for an online ongoing squabble. You’ve become like an annoying whining high pitched mosquito. Repeat: “Get A Life” and just go away pest.

            • sugarplumfairy

              I know.. I am a pest.. It’s a curse.. I think of myself as the John Allender of the fairy world..

            • Barbara Angel

              You’re not really a pest, I was just surprised you came back and back and back to attack. Almost needing to have an ongoing online fight or something? Watch the Blues Brothers movie and have a laugh, no need to be the ‘word police’ on a line quoted from a movie. I’m so ANNOYED that the Cult gets to continually torture people like Laura and others and its still HAPPENING!!! So rather than use vitriol on each other, lets focus it on the Cult. I’m sorry you were offended, the line I used was meant to give us a laugh and then a few jumped on it, telling me what I can and can’t say. I have no time for the “thought Police”, they belong in the Cult, not here. They/you took it seriously and that coming from the land of guns, where 80 people a day are killed but the National Rifle Association is “King”, really annoyed me. We have strict gun control laws in Australia and rarely have nutter’s shooting up schools etc. like America does. When the Cult crashes and burns, which it will, maybe we should then turn our attention to the NRA and get stricter laws on who can own guns?
              Just saying.

    • sugarplumfairy

      You’re new here but no excuse.. Even in jest, knock off the violent comments.. It ain’t funny..

      • Shaithias

        Well I feel that our current legal system is broken, and I will wager that none of them will get more than 10 years in prison. In fact, its more likely than not that they will get a few short years, the system will be suppressed and disbanded in a few small areas only to be recreated elsewhere by scientologists. How do I feel about that wager? I feel angry and helpless. I feel that the legal system is not serving justice, and put to much value in “violence”. When a person who assaults another and inflicts bruises and broken bones is given the same amount of punishment as a person who steals the life savings and the livelihood, years of work, or childhood of that same person, the system is broken. The true cost is not physical pain, but in time lost. I would gladly submit to torture if it guaranteed extra years on my life, or knowledge that would have otherwise taken me years to learn. In fact, if I knew that by my sacrifice I could obtain certain sorts of information for certain types of people I would give my life for that outcome. (the information in question is philosophical and scientific in nature)

        • sugarplumfairy

          Spout all the crazy crapola you want to.. but don’t come in and recommend violence in your second Disqus comment.. If you do that, we’ll think you’re a scientologist..

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            A raging, freaking Troll, Shait. Shite, an undercover operative for $cientology Inc.’s Office of Special Affairs. That’s where violent commenters go — into the Shait-Shithouse.

          • Barbara Angel

            Who’s the “we”? that will think Shaithias is a $cientologist? Maybe some of us cannot bear to see injustice so “we” use words to vent our frustrations, ever thought of that?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Actually I was talking about you, too.. not just Shait.. “We” know you guys like to work in pairs..

            • Mooser

              There’s a way to use words to vent frustrations, in fact, many of them, but that isn’t a good one.

            • Barbara Angel

              But that was a particularly funny line in the Blues Brothers movie, and the over kill of having the swat team; marines, navy, you name it chasing those two guys at the end. Then they get into the lift with musack playing totally oblivious to chaos they’d caused in the world around them. No need to blow things out of proportion, it was a line from a movie by a distressed law enforcement official, “all unauthorised violence has been approved”. Watch the movie and have a laugh or continue on being the ‘word police’ it’s up to you. I don’t care either way.

            • peakofelephants

              This also reminds me of what I think every time I see Scientologists in the NY subway system. “Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.”

            • Barbara Angel

              Hahahaha glad you get it too Peak, you left out the part where he then hits the accelerator…. and all the Nazis land in the water.
              Another favourite line is… ‘We’re on a mission from God’ not to mention, “Fix the cigarette lighter”. WOW— Really love, love, love that movie, did you know it was made in 1980??? I kid you not. I must have seen it at least 20 times and still use lines from that movie 33 years later. Used to put the cassette/tape on as the music of the soundtrack was just Sooooo good and dance to it every Sat morning while doing my housework. A major reason they made that movie was to reintroduce that Fabulous music—- and Cab Calloway was 73 when he was jiving away in that movie. I’m going to re-watch that movie tonight.

            • peakofelephants

              I wish they had never made that sequel though… Maybe there will be a director’s cut someday though.

          • Shaithias

            How many people have to die before you take action? How many people have to lose their childhood before you get off the couch? How many until you stand up and try to make a change and realize the institution responsible for stopping the crime is aiding and abetting it by not punishing it? And after that, you will see where I am.

            • Mooser

              “How many people have to die before you take action? How many people have
              to lose their childhood before you get off the couch? How many until
              you stand up and try to make a change and realize the institution
              responsible for stopping the crime is aiding and abetting it by not
              punishing it? And after that, you will see where I am.”

              Gosh, just when the courts and authorities seem to finally waking up and doing something, is the right time for vigilante criminal reprisals? And the Internet is aroused? Naaa, I love vigilante reprisals as much as the next guy, but I don’t think this is the right time.

              Why on earth would we do anything, any goddam thing, to give Scientology the benefit of any sympathy, or legal purchase as a wronged party? That doesn’t seem wise to me, does it seem wise to you?

              And isn’t there just the slightest little discrepancy in your comment. I mean, Scientology, together with the law, is a powerful, irresistible force for evil, which is suddenly going to scream and run away when we take some pitifully violent action against them? Hmmmm…. which is it, are they all-powerful, or helpless? It’s something (violent reprisals against Scientology) most people her studiously avoid, no matter what the grievance.Gosh, it hurts me to mention it, but a person could be so ungenerous as to question your motives in making your comment.

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          Shite, Shait — stifle the weirdnesses. Your thinkingnesses are blowing it.

          Listen to SugarPlum, or get the fuck off your methane cloud.

        • Barbara Angel

          @Shaithias I agree with you. Violence is not the answer but I forgot the question. And maybe sugaplumfairy should mind her own business, we are entitled to our opinion, just as she is.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Once again, courtesy of Michael Leonard Tilse:

            “Us doddering old guard, like Tory and Arnie and Gerry and others remember the wild an wooly days of dodge city, otherwise know as alt.religion.scientology. Fondly referred to as a.r.s.
            ‘ole Bill, who worked for the OSA team would create multitudes of fake identities, provide them with believable back stories, even provide plausible sounding personal experiences to build trust and create ‘personal connection’.
            Ole Bill was a gunslinger and a quick change artist who could talk to 10 different threads and other posters all at the same time using these different identities, logins and internet accounts set up in different cities under different names.
            A lot of time was invested in figuring out just who people were, what their back stories were and what they had as ‘buttons’ that could be triggered.
            Once it was figured out, a firefight would occur, starting between the sock puppets, (the synthetic identities), designed to trigger various people to choose sides and attack others, create offline cliques of posters who talked behind the back of other posters and eventually get every one accusing everyone being an OSA troll or agent or whatever.
            The end result was trust went out the window, no one wanted to hang out and share any more, no one wants to play in a cesspool. It ended a.r.s. as a community and left it as a bunch of wounded wary-eyed veterans.
            My read is that the current incarnation of the Bill Yaude program has finally reached critical mass where they think they can ruin the Bunker. It’s too effective. Too many connections are made, too many stories are shared for scientology to allow it to exist.”

            • Barbara Angel

              Paranoid Anyone????

            • AintMizBahavin

              great post. and thank you for showing me what to look out for… i dont agree with the violence comment at all and wondered who,why, and where it would come from since i’ve never read a comment like that posted here….. and hope to never read another like it.

            • Mooser

              I have often remarked before on how little violence Scientology seems to generate, considering the brazen impunity with which they screw with and defraud people. It does baffle me, but given the above, is better dropped as a subject.

        • Mooser

          “I would gladly submit to torture if it guaranteed extra years on my
          life, or knowledge that would have otherwise taken me years to learn. In
          fact, if I knew that by my sacrifice I could obtain certain sorts of
          information for certain types of people I would give my life for that
          outcome. (the information in question is philosophical and scientific in
          nature)”

          Ah, with an attitude like that, no cult will ever take you in! That’s exactly the kind of person they don’t want!

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Shite, Shait — stifle the weirdnesses. Your thinkingnesses are blowing it.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Shaithas, advocating violence has no place here. Please go somewhere else. If you don’t like the justice system, work on changing it. Vigilante justice is not the answer. Violent words can have violent consequences, and that is not okay. Don’t talk to me about free speech. Have you ever heard that saying that your right to free speech ends when you shout “fire” in a crowded theater?

    • Mrs Libnish

      Look dude, the Cult of Sciloontology is not above cutting and pasting comments like this and presenting them as evidence in court. It is counter-productive and helps them. Stop.

    • peakofelephants

      This rest of this thread is now serving for the basis of a new Fox reality show, “When the Internet Overreacts”…

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    ” If you want to see how LRH (L. Ron Hubbard) really worked things org-wise in Scientology, from the mid 60′s on, you just have to read ‘the brainwashing manual.’ ” — L. Ron Hubbard Jr

    Lafayette Ronald Hubbard wrote: “The tenants [sic]
    of rugged individualism, personal determinism, self-will,
    imagination, and personal creativeness are alike in the masses
    antipathetic to the good of the greater state [Scientology]. These
    willful and unaligned are no more than illnesses which will bring
    about disaffection, disunity, and at length the collapse of the
    group to which the individual is attached.

    The constitution of man lends
    itself easily and thoroughly to certain and positive regulation from
    without of all of its functions, including those of thinkingness
    [sic], obedience, and loyalty, and these things must be
    controlled if the greater state [Scientology] is to ensue.

    The end thoroughly justifies the
    means.”

    • peakofelephants

      This summer, LRH is… “Benito.”

  • Magginkat

    $120,000 “freeloader’s debt??? After working 7 days a week 16 hours a day?? I hope she is suing that damn quack church (Prison) for millions and wins. They owe her a fortune in unpaid salary plus pain and suffering. Bankrupt the bastards. Yee gods this is one sick excuse for a church.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Your mission, should you accept it, MagginK, is to — spread the word. Message Boards, Forums, Celebrity sites, social media, Twitter, et al. [ This comment will self-destruct in 5 seconds.]

    • peakofelephants

      Scientology, AKA, The Company Town

  • woodrose

    ‘Churches’ are not exempt from child labor laws!!!

    We should be demanding full enforcement of all laws that apply to these kids. Pressure the state AGs to investigate and prosecute Scientology and most importantly FREE the poor kids born into this cruel, mean cult.

  • peakofelephants

    I know this is painfully missing the point here, but it’s just driving me nuts: What is with the keyboard she has in the picture? Can somebody explain that please?

    • John Pombrio

      It is called an “old technology” keyboard. The same model as the corded telephone handset.

      • peakofelephants

        More specifically, what is that on the right side of the keyboard? Doesn’t look like a normal number pad…

  • Dave Roberts

    I don’t understand how they get away with this child abuse/slavery. There are laws that prevent children and adults from working these excessive hours for these miniscule salaries. Why doesn’t a State Attorney General investigate and bring Scientology to trial?
    Dave

  • Jon Frost

    How is any of this legal in this day and age??? Religious or not. fair pay for a days work… minimum wages are law in the US. How about time and a half over 40 hours a week. Billion Year Contract?? fuggeddaboutit,

    Someone needs to take this shit to court, dump the ‘church’s’ tax exempt status and seize all assets while the IRS, DEA, FBI, etc. pour over all the documents and files on all the unfortunate people who got sucked into this CULT.

    At least some of the folks who have gotten out are speaking out and flooding the internet with the truth about what is and has gone on for decades behind closed walls. The Catholic Church leaders were subject and still are subject to supoenas and depositions about sexual abuse at the hands of priests. What about what went on at The Hole??? Same thing only with adults and mind control/physical abuse, kidnapping…

  • Toni m

    This article is a must see it again. Thank you Mr Ortega.