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Camilla Andersson goes public after 29 years in Scientology’s inner elite

Camilla_AnderssonCamilla Andersson spent 29 years in Scientology’s hardcore “Sea Organization” — many of those years at the secretive “Int Base” east of Los Angeles — and walked away to freedom only two years ago. Now, she’s talking publicly for the first time about what she saw inside Scientology’s most elite facilities, spending years in the church’s prison detail, and working closely with Scientology leader David Miscavige.

And she tells us, he’s not going to be very happy about it.

“He’s going to be boiling. I’ve always been the quiet one. But you can only beat me up for so long. That’s why I’m fuming,” she told us by telephone from her home in Seattle.

Recently, Andersson was in Southern California, and she filmed a series of videos with Karen de la Carriere. Here’s part one…

 

 
Camilla tells us she was born and raised in Denmark, and her parents got into Scientology when she was only three years old. She started courses at 7, and at 8 was enrolled at a Scientology school.

“I pretty much grew up with it, in every aspect of my life,” she says. After finishing the equivalent of high school, she had thoughts of becoming a translator at the United Nations. But she had a negative experience at college, and then her brother asked her if she wanted to join him at Scientology’s Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida.

He had joined the Sea Organization in 1969, when it really was at sea and first earned that name. He had served with Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard on the Apollo as Hubbard ran the worldwide organization from the ship, which plied the Mediterranean, the Atlantic, and the Caribbean before the Sea Org came back on land, invading Clearwater in 1975.

Within 24 hours of her brother asking her to go there, Camilla was in Clearwater.

It was 1982, she was 17 years old, and she signed a billion-year contract to join the Sea Org. A year and a half later, she was in the Commodore’s Messenger Organization at Gold Base, also known as “Int Base,” where the highest echelons of Scientology’s executive strata lived and worked, largely cut off from the outside world.

“I was there for 19 years,” she says. “I was just one of these quiet, follow-the-rules people. But the more I got older, the more I edited things in my head to stay out of trouble. I got smart about what to say, when to go against the stream and when not to.”

She reminds us what was going on in Scientology at the time she joined the elite ranks at Gold Base. L. Ron Hubbard had gone into hiding in 1980 in the wake of eleven top church members going to prison after Scientology’s infiltration of federal offices — the Snow White Program. Hubbard’s absence, along with the revelations that came out with the 1979 release of Snow White documents that recorded shocking behavior by Scientology’s highest ranks, produced a volatile situation. Mission holders began showing independence, and then were crushed in a 1982 crackdown by David Miscavige and the other CMO and Sea Org officials who were starting to take over in Hubbard’s absence.

“1983 was about recovering management control. And 1984 was the beginning of the dissemination era,” Camilla says, describing a new focus on producing higher quality materials for spreading Scientology’s ideas.

“It began with building a studio at the base. But Scientology wasn’t swimming in money. So building the studio meant a lot of cheap labor,” she says. The workforce, she says, were mainly Sea Org workers who were being punished in the Rehabilitation Project Force — the SO’s prison detail. “They were brought in on buses from Los Angeles. They were used as a workforce, up for days and days — for two weeks and more. And in dangerous conditions. This went on for two years, until the grand opening in 1986. There was insane sleep deprivation in the early 1980s.”

Camilla’s own work was in the Film and Equipment Unit. “I took care of LRH’s personal photography. I took care of David Miscavige’s photography. And the historical photography. In our unit we were in on privileged information, and we were called personal staff — originally for Hubbard — and then we slid into personal staff for Miscavige. And I had no history of breaching security. No one’s going to believe I’m speaking out.

“My unit was training to service Hubbard when he returned. There were about ten of us. We were all in various stages of training on checklists,” she says.

Hubbard never came back from hiding, and died on January 24, 1986 at a church-owned ranch near Creston, California. We asked Camilla if she was at the famous announcement event which happened three days later at the Hollywood Palladium.

“Yeah, I was at the Palladium, in the crowd. We were told it was going to be a special announcement from L. Ron Hubbard. That was what my unit was told — the rest of the Sea Org might have been told something else,” she remembers.

And when she heard the announcement from David Miscavige that Hubbard had “dropped his body”?

“People went into a complete state of shock. There were no words to describe it at all. No one really talked. No one knew what to do. People were crying. I didn’t cry. I was thinking, what do we do now? That was my thought. I didn’t have the idea of him not running it. This whole thing had no purpose anymore. Why do we get up in the morning now? That’s where I was at.”

But Scientology carried on. Over the next four years, Camilla says she worked in “human resources kind of stuff. Getting people put into jobs, getting them trained.”

And during this time, she was especially close with Ann Tidman.

Known more widely under the name Annie Broeker, Tidman had been one of L. Ron Hubbard’s most trusted personal aides. She and her husband Pat Broeker had gone into hiding with Hubbard in 1980, and she was his primary caretaker to the end of his life. Hubbard had seemed to signal that the Broekers would succeed him by naming them “Loyal Officers” before his death. But the Broekers had been pushed aside by David Miscavige.

After Hubbard’s death, Annie was sent to the RPF at Happy Valley for “two or three years,” Camilla says.

“That was her welcome back present, and I’ve never understood that.”

Annie then moved to Gold Base, and worked as a darkroom technician as Miscavige kept her close under his thumb.

“I was one of her four best friends,” Camilla says. “She was in the Film and Equipment Unit. That’s how I got to know her.”

Camilla vividly remembers when Annie’s possessions from Creston Ranch, where Hubbard had died, were finally returned to her at Gold Base.

“There was expensive jewelry missing, and she was livid. To this day I have no idea what happened to it. It might have been Shelly or Dave Miscavige. Hubbard had given her a lot of jewelry over the 18 years she had served him, and that was all gone. I happened to be right by her when she opened her boxes and started looking for stuff. She was very, very upset about it.”

She also says that Annie told her about the stress she went through the day Hubbard died. “They knew he was dying for a couple of days. And the legal issues were taken care of the day before. That morning, when he died, she was not only in shock, she had to call the police.”

And making matters worse, in a completely random, unrelated incident, a couple of large dogs at the ranch got into a vicious fight that morning.

“One of the dogs had blood dripping out of his ear, and he was shaking his head, getting blood all over the kitchen. Annie’s there by herself, trying to handle things. The police are there….She explained this to me in detail. She said it was the most intense day of her life,” she says.

“She said she took notes on the last things that Hubbard dictated about the upper OT levels the day before he died. I was in awe. She wasn’t even OT 3 when she was taking dictation. How did that work? ‘Well, it was my duty. There was no one else there,’ she said.”

Camilla herself attained the state of Clear during her long career, but never experienced the higher-level “OT” levels that cost hundreds of dollar an hour in counseling.

The highest “OT” level — OT 8 — was released in 1988, two years after Hubbard’s death, and Scientologists were told that when conditions were right, OT 9 and 10 would be released. But Marty Rathbun, a top former Scientology official, says that OT 9 and 10 do not exist. We asked Camilla: Did Hubbard tell Annie differently in that final day of dictation? “I really don’t know. And Marty would be in a better position to know the truth about the OT levels than me,” she says.

In 1990, a very important visitor arrived at Gold Base — actor Tom Cruise. Marc Headley, in his book Blown For Good, has described that Cruise came to Gold to learn how to audit, and that Headley was chosen to be his subject.

Camilla says she ran into Cruise one day at the studio, where a music conference room had been turned into his courseroom.

“I just passed by him and greeted him,” she says.

Later, she says her unit went into high gear when Cruise and Nicole Kidman got married. Two members of her unit went to Telluride to photograph the nuptials, and then she and others worked around the clock to get the photos ready.

“All that film came back to Golden Era. And we developed the film, and over a week to ten days, we printed everything, made blow-ups, and created albums. There was a custom, hand-sewn photo album made for Tom. He paid for the supplies, and then the rest was church labor. The whole point of us doing it was to keep it out of the hands of the media,” she says. “I’m 99 percent sure those negatives are still there. It’s something that’s not really known about — Tom Cruise’s personal photo lab is Golden Era Productions.”

By 1993, Camilla was such a trusted employee, she worked closely with Miscavige as he prepared for his finest moment — revealing to the rest of the organization that Scientology had finally won its decades-long battle with the IRS. That year, after a two-year process with the federal agency, Scientology’s entities were gaining tax-exempt status. Miscavige would announce to a crowd at the Los Angeles Sports Arena that “The War Is Over.”

“For two years we knew that it was very close. We knew that David Miscavige and Marty Rathbun had been working with our attorneys to win this. And three months before we won it, in the summer 1993, our unit was asked to prepare photographs, to blow them up and put them on foamcore, like for use as exhibits in a courtroom,” she says.

“Some of the photos included David Miscavige’s bedroom. His lounge. His office.”

Why? Camilla believes they were part of an exhibit to convince the IRS that Miscavige did not live a lavish lifestyle. (Since that time, Miscavige has benefited greatly from the labor of Sea Org workers, and stories are thick that he lives in a very posh environment, with meals prepared for him every two hours, and closets full of custom made clothes, and rooms with expensive personal furnishings.)

There were also photo exhibits made of various Scientology properties. “I think it was Marty who came down and picked them up,” she says. Then, in October, the process with the IRS was completed. Scientology had its tax exempt status. It was time for the big announcement.

“I was heavily involved in The War is Over in 1993,” Camilla says. “I rehearsed DM for his speech for five days.”

What was that like?

“White-knuckle fear.”

Working directly with Miscavige was intense, she says. “He never stops. The word ‘calm’ has nothing to do with that man. He is running through his speech, and he just goes, ‘Add a comma there, and move that paragraph down.’ Meanwhile, I’m in ASCII on a teleprompter, and I’m trying to keep track of everything he’s saying. If I’m too slow or too fast and irritate him, that was no good. English was my third language, and the legal terms? Whoa.”

The night of the event itself, Miscavige’s speech went off fine. But Camilla says she ended up almost getting arrested.

“Until 6 pm, I was in the broadcast truck with the hired professionals. My job was to make sure the right slides came up at the right time.”

When the slides were set, she then switched to photography. She went into the hall with her camera and a tripod to capture the event.

“I missed all the rehearsals, and I didn’t know you couldn’t have a tripod in the audience. And fire marshals were everywhere because there was live fire up on the stage.” Three times, she was told to stop taking photographs and take the tripod out of the building. Eventually, a fire marshal dragged her to a police officer, who began to take her away to jail. Inside, everyone was watching Miscavige, and they had no idea she was getting hauled away.

“Just as police come to take me away, a woman from OSA shows up [Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs is its intelligence and covert operations wing], and she asked, ‘Can we please use our internal justice to take care of this?’ She convinced them to turn me over to Scientology.”

Camilla says she was supposed to sit for a sort of court martial for the flap, but then her photos turned out so good, one was used for a poster about the event. So she skated.

But a few years later, she wasn’t so lucky.

Camilla says that things seemed to change after the War Is Over event. “Up to then, Miscavige was following Hubbard’s goals. But now what do you do? There was no boss above him to say, OK, now we do this. At that point he became the origination of what to do next. That was the big shift.”

In 1998, a big shift arrived for Camilla when she got an order from David Miscavige’s wife, Shelly. “We were in the production of a slide show, for recruiting for the Sea Org. We hadn’t been to bed for weeks. Shelly sent a collection order down to get me. My files were in disorder, I was told. And I said, ‘She doesn’t have all the data’.”

In other words, the quiet, subservient Camilla Andersson had talked back. And to the leader’s wife.

“I got sec-checked for 30 to 40 hours,” she says, referring to Scientology’s brand of brutal interrogations.

“The meter is reading, you’re in fear, and you’ll say anything to get it to end. There came to a point that I didn’t care. You get so in anxiety to say things that satisfy the hunger for something nasty,” she says, remembering the hours of interrogation to discover her “crimes” against Scientology.

And her biggest infraction? “I had destroyed an original photographic negative of L. Ron Hubbard. That was the biggest point. A year later it was proved that there wasn’t even a scratch on it.” If that was the biggest strike against her, over more than a day of questioning, she’d also admitting to various errors.

“Jennifer DeVocht read my confessions from that session to the entire unit I worked at. Each day she would read from them. My husband was in that unit, Joe Jarchow,” she remembers.

“I actually wanted to leave the Sea Org. And that’s what really ticked everybody off,” she says. She had by this time thought seriously of “blowing” or escaping.

“The whole time I was being sec checked, I was living at the Old Gilman House,” a secluded location at the Int Base compound. “I was no longer living where my husband was. We were disconnected. He came to see me before I went to Happy Valley for the RPF. ‘I cannot believe you. You are despicable,’ he said. That is the last time I spoke to him.”

Camilla was moved to another facility near Hemet known as Happy Valley, where members were sent for the prison detail, the RPF (the church no longer owns the property). She was berthed in a converted freight trailer.

“It was so awful,” she says. “It was like being on an extended camping trip with people you didn’t want to be camping with. There was a hut in the middle of the property with a roof and plastic windows. That’s where we ate. The food came on a little wheelbarrow from Golden Era, in a car. It was lukewarm, rice and beans sometimes. If you didn’t eat what was on your plate, you didn’t eat. It was like a prison camp.”

And what did you do on the detail?

“We were farming. If we weren’t farming, we were digging trenches. The worst thing we did was dig a flood channel up in the mountains. We moved huge boulders and rocks. It was very dangerous.”

Camilla was on the RPF at Happy Valley for three years. There was no TV. No telephone. No radio. No books. No newspapers.

“Nope. Three years. Sometimes people would get a letter or a card, but we were disconnected from the world. It was way worse than the RPF in Big Blue,” she says, referring to another location for the prison detail, at the former Cedars of Lebanon hospital building painted blue in Los Angeles.

Most of the people who finished the RPF were sent out of the Sea Org or to Big Blue. But Camilla was one of only a very few who actually got to return to Int Base. She was sent back to work with Ann Tidman.

“I returned to Gold on January 6, 2001.”

She had spent the turn of the millennium at Scientology’s desert prison.

A year later, in 2002, Camilla was moved to PAC base — the Big Blue complex in LA — and worked in its kitchen for the next ten years.

“I didn’t know anything about The Hole, or about Shelly disappearing. Inside the bubble, you don’t know anything about what’s happening at Gold. You have no idea. I didn’t even know what the Hole was. I knew who Debbie Cook was. And I saw her in a video on YouTube. She was testifying in a courtroom. I had no idea why.”

We asked Camilla when she first realized that something had happened to Shelly Miscavige.

“It was a live New Year’s Eve event, at the Shrine Auditorium. Around 2006 or 2007. I would always do the food for New Year’s, and I fed the crowd afterwards. I noticed that David Miscavige was walkinng around looking at the setups, and Shelly wasn’t with him. Only Laurisse, his personal communicator. I thought that was odd.”

Camilla has no first-hand evidence of it, but she’s convinced that Shelly is being held at the Church of Spiritual Technology headquarters near Lake Arrowhead, above Los Angeles — something we’ve been saying for a few years.

And how did Camilla manage to get out of the Sea Org in 2012?

“I had been wanting to leave for a while. I had no money. Both of my parents are deceased. Where was I going to go? I didn’t even grow up in America,” she says.

“I wanted to get away from Scientology. But every time I would say that I wanted to leave and was routing out, I’d be convinced otherwise.”

She knew she couldn’t talk her way out. She would literally have to escape.

At the time, she was attending chef classes in Culver City. So, for a month she made plans, being very careful not to get into any trouble, which might jeopardize her ability to attend the weekly class. On the day she chose, she gathered up her green card and passport and what little money she had, and then made her way from the Big Blue complex to the Culver City classroom with the help of a friend.

“A guy in my division drove me there,” she says. She attended the class, which involved making eight different salads. Then, instead of staying after class to talk with the other students, she left, walking across the street. Then she kept walking. She didn’t even have a direction in mind.

“My theory was, if I don’t know where I’m going, they can’t follow. I know how security thinks.”

Eventually, she made her way to her sister’s house near the Los Angeles airport. Then, the next day, she got on a Greyhound bus for Idaho Falls.

Why Idaho Falls?

“I randomly picked it. There was no logic. Except that it was a cheap place to live. And there’s no Scientology in Idaho. I knew I could go under the radar quickly and disappear.”

Now she lives in Seattle, and she’s reconnecting with her old friends who have also left Scientology.

“They didn’t chase after me. Everything has gone fine.”

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 16, 2014 at 07:00

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  • nottrue

    …….july 16 2014

  • Here is a new ring for Camilla — probably not worth as much but the message is good πŸ™‚

    https://img1.etsystatic.com/004/1/6800723/il_340x270.365549479_tp0a.jpg

  • WierdHarold

    New niacin study out: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/studies-risks-cholesterol-drug-niacin-24590137
    Might be of some relevance to Narconon’s claims…

    • Baby

      I love these current studies Harold.. Yippee.. and as Nottrue says.. More ammo for Hambo..

    • grundoon

      Niacin too dangerous for routine cholesterol therapy

      After 50 years of being a mainstay cholesterol therapy, niacin should no longer be prescribed for most patients due to potential increased risk of death, dangerous side effects and no benefit in reducing heart attacks and strokes, writes Northwestern Medicine preventive cardiologist Donald Lloyd-Jones, M.D., in a New England Journal of Medicine editorial.

      Lloyd-Jones’s editorial is based on a large new study published in the journal that looked at adults, ages 50 to 80, with cardiovascular disease who took extended-release niacin (vitamin B3) and laropiprant (a drug that reduces face flushing caused by high doses of niacin) to see if it reduced heart attack and stroke compared to a placebo over four years. All patients in the trial were already being treated with a statin medication.

      Niacin did not reduce heart attacks and stroke rates compared with a placebo. More concerning, niacin was associated with an increased trend toward death from all causes as well as significant increases in serious side effects: liver problems, excess infections, excess bleeding, gout, loss of control of blood sugar for diabetics and the development of diabetes in people who didn’t have it when the study began.

      “There might be one excess death for every 200 people we put on niacin,” said Lloyd-Jones, chair of preventive medicine at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine and Northwestern Memorial Hospital. “With that kind of signal, this is an unacceptable therapy for the vast majority of patients.” http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-07-niacin-dangerous-routine-cholesterol-therapy.html

      • Missionary Kid

        YOU’RE WRONG!!!!! WRONG, I SAY!!! NIACIN FLUSHES OUT ALL THE DRUGS!!!

        LRH DID THE RESEARCH ON IT!!!! LRH IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!

        Gack! I can’t keep the pose as a $cibot. Forgive me for even trying. It’s another lie promulgated by LRH that not only is false, but dangerous, like just about everything else he pushed on his minions.

        • Narapoid

          MK, I smell what you’re cookin’. *ref*

  • Panopea Abrupta

    For all my ex-Sea Org friends and all those still trapped, a poem.

    My heart goes out to you all.
    There is great darkness and great light in the world.
    May you have only good things.

    From the great Persian poet, Hafiz:

    Some Fill With Each Good Rain

    There are different wells within your heart.
    Some fill with each good rain,
    Others are far too deep for that.

    In one well
    You have just a few precious cups of water,
    That β€œlove” is literally something of yourself,
    It can grow as slow as a diamond
    If it is lost.

    Your love
    Should never be offered to the mouth of a
    Stranger,
    Only to someone
    Who has the valor and daring
    To cut pieces of their soul off with a knife
    Then weave them into a blanket
    To protect you.

    There are different wells within us.
    Some fill with each good rain,
    Others are far, far too deep
    For that.

    • aegerprimo

      Beautiful. The poem made me cry. Thank you Pan Ab. β™₯

    • Baby

      Pan.. Wow.. absolutely beautiful. Thank you.. yes and like aeger tears ran down my cheeks.

  • Baby

    If this has been posted before I apologize profusely.. But my nephew just showed it to me and I thought of the Sea Org.. ( PS.. JUST KEEP WALKING! ) XOXO baby

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGBLlFMn9Xc

    • Baby

      oops refresh..sorry

    • Frodis73

      Never saw that vid Baby. I see it too. Could be a theme song for blowing.

      • Baby

        Yep Doggy.. I said that to my Nephew and he said, ” Does Everything Remind you of Scn? ..”

        YEP! hahahaahaha

        • Frodis73

          Lol. Yes, I’ve annoyed fam & a few friends too.

  • oh dear me….

    Linda Perry, former vocalist and guitarist of 4 Non Blondes, is encouraging actor Tom Cruise to come out gay:

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=19021&MediaType=1&Category=22#

    also new post up http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk

    • VargasZiegfeld

      Yay, Linda Perry and yay ML for the post.

    • there’s this, too http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/world-exclusive-cover-story-toms-secret-gay-life-exposed Enquirer having another go at outing Tom ]can somebody post grabs or text as it’s blocked from the UK

      • 1subgenius

        Here ya go my friend.

        • ta very much

        • incidentally I posted an old Enquirer cover in my blog post today before this story came out … talk about spooky deja vu [pic]

      • 1subgenius

        Ooops, I think I see you meant the text of the article. I can’t get to it either.

    • 1subgenius

      I actually wish it was about the need for him to come out.
      Of Scientology.
      The sexuality thing is played out, and goes nowhere.
      His involvement in the world’s most sinister scam is far more important.
      The focus on his sexuality distracts from the real issue.

      • VargasZiegfeld

        Who knows? Maybe if he comes out about one
        He can get out of the other.

        • 1subgenius

          He would have to.
          He couldn’t come out gay and still be in.
          But, he could get out of Scientology and still be whatever he is sexually, in or out.
          This kind of urging to come out sexually, may in fact drive him into a defensive position making it harder to leave the cult.
          But that theory came out of my butt, so….

          • VargasZiegfeld

            Yowch!

          • here’s a comment from “sx” at Gossipcom [which calls bs on it…. but then it again calls bs on anything to do with Cruise] that I thought deserved it’s own post [pic]

            http://www.gossipcop.com/exclusive-tom-cruise-gay/

            • 1subgenius

              You are nothing if not balanced, fair and unbiased
              And boy that sx has a way with words. Funny.

            • Captain Howdy

              Oi! Why do supposedly straight middle class English guys have this obsessiveness with gay culture?

            • it’s the same reason why we all like to dress up as women from time to time … it’s a boarding school thang!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Like sticky biscuit?

            • that’s urban myth… and had a different name; I must admit that some of the initiation for “nips” [as my particular school called us] was pretty hilarious… what’s interesting is that ‘fagging’ was only ever a verb it and meant doing menial tasks for a prefect… cleaning their study, making toast, warming bog seats etc… I vaguely remember a description of the word originating from when “nips”/new boys did a good job that the prefect [if he was a smoker] would give a cigarette [highly illegal] as a reward at the end o the week … this sort of progressed to a noun where a “fag” became synonymous with the slang word for cigarette and someone who was happy to be a ‘slave’ to earn one at a boarding school… somewhat different to the American definition !

          • Baby

            Did you have to mention Gay and Butt in the same Post.. Jeeze

          • Todd Tomorrow

            “drive him into a defensive position”,”making it harder”,”came out of my butt,” how prolific when describing someone’s sexuality. You don’t write for those dirty gay rags do yah? It’s Ok,who am I to judge.

      • Captain Howdy

        Cruise isn’t gay or bi-sexual, he’s asexual and not very bright. I can’t believe people are still flogging this dead horse. Oh wait, they’re gay with a gossip column..nevermind.

        • Baby

          OK you got me Howdy..I forgot that I always thought he was asexual.. hahahaha

        • noseinabk

          Amen. Even before my cos watching, when women went nuts over him I could not relate.
          The guy wanted to be a priest. It would have suited him.

      • Baby

        but sub.. It’s NEVER been confirmed. .. and he would be doing the LBGT community a huge service. ( If he also got out LOUDLY and told all)

        because him coming out gay alone ..BLEH

      • aquaclara

        What? That TC is a lousy husband? We know that. That he is an idiot when it comes to women and children? Uhm. Yes. That he thinks he is a True Believer of magical thinking? Idiotic. Gay? Who cares?

        But that he donates money to a chain-link-fenced (with spears) tax-scamming cult obsessed with keeping everyone else out, well, he is an idiot beyond belief.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I wonder who he’d marry,Marc Yager? Umm,too old. An 18 year bike guard. Fuck yeah!

      • Jon Hendry

        It could be fun, though, if he came out as gay and wanted to *stay in Scientology*. Holy Enturbulation, Batman! Watching how that shook out would be fascinating.

        • 1subgenius

          Yes.

    • Frodis73

      Wish she would have mentioned the church tho dammit. That is what is harming him imo.
      ETA: Great story about the Russian women, I missed it so thanx for sharing it on your blog.

    • Captain Howdy

      The chick from 4 Non Blondes is gay? I’m gobsmacked!

    • Baby

      I swear to God if TC comes out OF Scn… I would be sitting in any of his movies Front and Center..

      If he came out OF Scn and admitted he was Gay? I would sit on the stage of the movie to watch.

      He would have Double my support! ( Instead of my scorn )

      • That remark about a sinking ship has gotta hurt. On a side note, the site is not iPad-friendly.

        • that’s why I always take a screenshot

          • Yeah, on the iPad you have to hit a little view button to view the picture, so I clicked the link and got surprised at the apparent instability of the page. As an old Trekker, I was able to reverse the polarity and solve the problem.

            It was more an annoyance than anything else, but I’m kinda surprised it was a problem at all. I don’t know what demographic they’re looking for, but my wife recently took an Apple class for using her more advanced iPad, and she told me about senior citizens using it and wanting to learn how to use it.

            You would think any website would want their stuff to show up well on a device that even an orangutang is able to use.

            • blame Adobe Flash… when the iPad was introduced it pretty much put the kaboosh on this piece of software [it’s primary purpose was to allow for moving images on a web page – graphics and/or video] as Steve Jobs refused to let the new mac iOs use it… it’s well known that Flash was the gateway for (probably) 90% of malware, bugs, trojans etc… but this is a kind of topic that could go on forever – suffice to say that I introduced my dad to a mac laptop a decade ago [no computer in the house before then] and he taught himself how to make and edit movies in under a year.

              websites with problems on an iPad are representative of old tech that they can’t be bothered to update… more often than not the author of the content is unable to do anything about this personally… I regard sites like this as people who still have black and white televisions… it’s their choice but don’t expect everybody to come round to watch the Super Bowl!

            • With HTML5, there’s no excuse for Flash, and the sooner that POS is gone, the better. (And I don’t even have an iPad.)

      • Vaquera

        Baby, I might not go as far as you, but I’d certainly re-watch the sand volleyball scene from Top Gun. :-)))

    • DodoTheLaser

      Wow! 4 Non Blondes… Nice blast from the past!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXnxTNIWkc

  • DALLAS MORNING NEWS STILL STICKING WITH IT:

    Why are celebrities so drawn to Scientology?

    http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/07/why-are-celebrities-so-drawn-to-scientology.html/

    • Tony Ortega

      It’s the book they chose for their summer reading club. They said it would go on all week.

      • Baby

        Oh Yippee Skippie..

      • DodoTheLaser

        All week?!! I bet Psychs commies bankers, a.k.a. SMERSH paid them.
        “Summer reading club”, suuure…

  • Camilla Andersson

    Thank you all for the great communication! I cannot thank you enough for all your encouragement and great wishes for the upcoming.
    And yes, it is true I cannot stand celery. Marc H does know me well, and even I forgot about that trip to the restaurant! πŸ™‚ LOL
    I have a lot of fantastic friends from the past who are out now and I am so thankful for all your support. This was just video #1, there are many more to come.
    I created a special email address that you can contact me on. It is HappyZebra11@outlook.com.
    Love, Camilla

    • jeff

      You seem to be doing great! Keep going!

      • Camilla Andersson

        I am, not all is smooth yet, But the freedom is beautiful!

        • Baby

          Shit Camilla.. Not all is smooth for me either..and I’m a NEVER in! One day at a time sweetie.

          • 0tessa

            For the never outs nothing is smooth.

        • DodoTheLaser

          And look how many new friends you now have!
          I sent you a pm on FB, btw.

        • KNMF

          Thank you for sharing the truth. I hope it’s as good for you as it is for us.

    • noseinabk

      Welcome to the bunker Camilla. I hope you find peace and joy on the outside. By the way, I get the food aversion. One tiny sliver of bell pepper in a gallon of soup will repulse me.

    • Missionary Kid

      Welcome! Thank you for telling your story.

      Marc sucked me in with the celery soup. If Mark fixed it, I’d eat it.. I dislike the taste of parsley, but I have learned to like cilantro, which is known as Chinese parsley.

    • Vaquera

      You are so very brave. Thank you for sharing your story with Tony.

    • aquaclara

      Celery is over-rated. So are rice and beans. I am looking forward to your future videos, and hope you stay in touch here at the Bunker. I was crying over all the reunion notes…..
      Take care!

    • Baby

      I will post my favorite expression to you as a gift… Anyone who would like this ..feel free to save..It can be printed for 8 x 10 ..

      Camilla.. You are such an inspiration. Such a brave woman walking in the sunlight now. You come back and see us anytime. Love Baby xoxo

      • Baby

        OMG refresh..I keep doing that! ugh

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your courage, the courage to walk and the courage to talk.
      May your years be filled with light and love.
      Enjoy freedom.

    • You are awesome Camilla — can’t wait for the next video πŸ™‚

    • Sejanus

      The secret to eating celery…Cheez Whiz…lol

    • stillgrace2

      Celery is over-rated anyway, Camilla. It’s just crunchy water. Enjoy your new life and I hope you hang around here! I am looking forward to the coming videos.
      Grace

    • Qbird

      Yay for you & your fortitude Camilla ~ happy for you Lady!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Camilla – what a powerful story. Thank you for your courage and honesty and I am glad you are free!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      How lovely to also hear from you personally in the comments section, in addition to sharing your story with us through Tony and Karen yesterday! I’m sure you’ve been in all our hearts and minds ever since and that you will continue to be so in the weeks, months, and years to come. I hope you can keep us updated with all the wonderful changes that I am sure will continue to come your way. It’s hard to think of anyone who deserves it more than you do!

      It’s been fun to watch the reconnections between you and old friends happen here in the Bunker and it’s also gratifying to know you already have a circle of old friends that have already reappeared in your life since your departure from Gold base. May they become your new second family who will support, protect, and cherish you in the years to come. What a remarkable life you have led and what a strong, unforgettable. inspirational, and remarkable woman you are! Please don’t forget you also have a Bunker load of new friends here!

      I wish you continued strength and courage, greater certainty and ease, much love and laughter, as you create this new life in a new environment – and may they all come to you in great abundance.

      Cars

      • Camilla Andersson

        Cars, Thank you! Very touching and yes I have a new family, actually several new families! I am rich with friends. I used to always tell myself when things were rough – that a man (or woman) is as rich as he/she has friends. That makes me a millionaire! LOL! Would be nice to meet you in person one day. Thanks again!

  • quick qu … I’m not getting any reply notifications from Disqus [first time this has happened] via email… is it just me?

    • Baby

      reply to me and let me see Lush..

      • tis a good day to start drinking…

        • Baby

          I got it … did you get mine?

          • nope… I’m getting other stuff sent to that particular address so I I guess it’s a regional thing

  • Captain Howdy

    Ladies and Gentlemen
    The church of scientology is officially losing the war
    Smoke ’em if you got ’em

    http://youtu.be/ReUaQlsZZ5I

    • Baby

      This made me smile Howdy thank you..

      I was just over to Marty’s watching Vinnie and Oracle fight.. and then Marty telling Vinnie QED ..hhahaahah

      ( down at the end of his last post..) Music to my ears..

      • Captain Howdy

        Watching two rabid animals fight is never pretty.

        • Baby

          I had my Shots..

          • Captain Howdy

            I don’t think jello shots work for rabies.

            • Baby

              Hahahahahaahaha.. You always make me laugh Howdy.. even when you don’t try.. ; )

            • Captain Howdy

              Likewise my dear.

            • Baby

              I hope you meant it the way that I did..bawwwwwwwwwhahahahhaa ..

      • D.Y.G.

        The best post of the bunch —

        A competent auditor should be able to handle and cure tourettes syndrome.

        • DodoTheLaser

          I wonder if Hubbard suffered from one…

        • Robert Eckert

          That’s why Miscavige doesn’t do auditing: he enjoys his Tourette’s!

      • Missionary Kid

        I would suggest that the multiple personality disorder that $cientology brings about is a part of the cognitive dissociation that Co$ encourages.

        It looks to me that Marty is finally realizing how destructive $cientology-based auditing is.

        I had encountered client-based auditing as a part of peer counseling that seemed to bring the self-actualization I was seeking, which was a totally different experience, so I consider it beneficial.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Beauty of a song.

    • valshifter

      this should be the national anthem for ex sea org members, and we should play it every time some one blows.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X ***

    JJ has been very busy last evening, and although many ads were taken down,
    they loaded many more of the same old BS.
    They are at the top of the yesterday daily list and in the following alerts
    We need to stop him! Check the Watch list, there some ads in there too

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-102#post-2472204

    Alerts & updates start page 102 & continue page 103
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-102#post-2472262

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty AP

  • I still can’t quite explain the amazing height differential in these shots [TomKat]… I understand perspective etc but there definitely seems some heightist voodoo going on here

    • Baby

      ” Marital Bliss.. ” Yeah right.. as she’s dragged along in the first photo looking distressed and scared..Her body language tells it all.. ( plus looking down is NOT a good sign)

      Can’t explain the height difference… unless she was bending her right leg coming off a curb.. He looks like an Ass Hole either way..ugh..

      • posting the full thing in my next blog…. has a couple of brilliant Suri pics I’d never seen before as well… lest we forget his famous sneakers with mega-lifts.. [pic]

        • Baby

          Ahhhhhhhhh yes the infamous sneakers..ha

        • valshifter

          look at the high hills on those sneakers. shish

    • DodoTheLaser

      In picture on the left – Tom is closer to the camera. Also, his boots.

      • as I said, perspective and all that but this seems to transcends that

        • DodoTheLaser

          Yeah, just perspective, imo. And lulz.
          In picture on the right – Tom is farther away from the camera and mid of a wide step
          that makes him look shorter than he already is. That’s all.

          • bollocks…. this is an actual photograph of Cruise when he took his shoes off for comparison… [that’s his sister on the left]

            • DodoTheLaser

              Lol. How this is even important? TC is short. Case closed.

            • pretty sure these shoes are custom made with “lift motors” that raise and lower according to where photographers are…. pretty sure he’s wearing the same ones here [and they’re set a max height] as he’s actually the real same height as the guy on the right of him in the photo [pic]

            • DodoTheLaser

              Hahhahaha! You are either joking or need seriously try not to think about TC for a few hours, at least. I hope you are joking. ’cause it’s funny! Also, they strategically put TC between two shorter guys with lower shoes. I can’t believe I am discussing this. lol

            • … the thing is I was looking for a couple of things to use as a pic for my next blog post and a lot of this stuff came up via google image… here’s a tip – the good stuff or the pics I’ve recently posted are not part of the main google image page but pop up if you click on an image.. (low tab ratio or something).. nearly always find something lulz-worthy… like this one… boy, would love for this to happen [pic]

            • DodoTheLaser

              Oh, Lord…

            • Baby

              Lush.. I click on the little square and it’s K Holmes in the middle.. did you post the right picture? Not seeing his sister..

            • refresh… she’s on the left

            • Baby

              I thought she was a guy.. : /

            • with those fingernails?

            • MaxSpaceman

              appears to be a gay gal

            • Baby

              Yep.. Not that there is anything wrong with that.. ; )

              I thought she was the 6th Beatle..

            • … pic

            • MaxSpaceman

              Wow- that’s outright scary!
              She looks as wacked-out as Davey’s troglodyte sister.

            • … remember the Cruise Spielberg fallout story… just came across a photo that confirms it with body language [no one crosses their arms on a red carpet like this]

            • NibsSaid

              Spielberg looks like he’s ready to explode . . .

            • valshifter

              Am glad Spielberg did not fall for the stupid religion, ho yeah and thanks to Paul Haggis for telling him “the evil ones are in the closet”

  • DodoTheLaser

    What a great day/night! Oh, and thanks to OSA for extra traffic! Blow for good and start living life.

    • Baby

      This has been such a fabulous day.. I forgot to thank Karen for her great video.. Looking forward to many more! Good job Karen.. ! And of course just jumping for joy for Camilla..

      And THAT is why I am here.. Keep on coming out everyone.. We will be here for you.. xo

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Thursday the 17th of July

    Good morning Bunkerites,
    Must I say it again: Boston – JJ – Boston – JJ
    Cincinnati is still standing
    Today’s list is up
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-103#post-2472379

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Hi Baby

    • Pierrot

      Hi Barbara,
      we were worried about you, Aegerprimo was asking if we had seen you!

      • Barbara Angel

        Thank you Sir, just health problems/hospital and a shitty ISP which drops out 4-6 times an hour.
        Still able to leave the WWP page open all day and come back and re-log on to keep flagging.
        Am taking my laptop to the casket and grave so I can keep flagging those ***Despicable*** co$ criminals. Every Red-X counts and we never know which one tips the balance and induces those lazy shithead C/L enablers to finally take the post down. We are doing well and making a difference in saving people from themselves. Cheers B.A.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Cinci is standing no more. Flagged.

  • DodoTheLaser

    For all the brave ladies out there. I bow to you. Refresh.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djHoYhIwiKE

    • Camilla Andersson

      WOW! Thank you Mr. DodoLaser. Quite a trubute, very thoughtful and thank you so much! It was touching. πŸ™‚

      • DodoTheLaser

        You are very welcome! πŸ™‚ Happy that you enjoyed it!

        • Camilla Andersson

          πŸ™‚

  • Jory

    Camilla, you’re saved!

  • valshifter

    “But Scientology wasn’t swimming in money” I don’t buy this they been rolling in money since the beginning of time. They always claim the church is short on this short on that as an excuse to exploit the slaves, and get free labor and as an excuse to ask for donations.

  • valshifter

    ” a couple of large dogs at the ranch got into a vicious fight that morning” I can only think the demons released from Hubbard got into the dogs.

  • smew

    What a powerful story. Thank you, Camilla, for your courage and your willingness to share your experience pubilcly.

    • Camilla Andersson

      Smew, thank you!

  • valshifter

    Slappy Psycho is not going to be happy . Camilla said they never went after her, but now that she is speaking out they might.

  • Dean Fox

    Well done Camilla.

    • Camilla Andersson

      Thanks!!

  • Mo Reno

    Anyone else think about the viability of “blow parties,” where we could inform would-be escapees from Gold about our intent to help them flee? We should be able to show up en masse and help them ‘bust out.’ Ostensibly, if those that wanted to blow could inform us that they were being held against their will, we would have full use of the “necessity” defense under California law. That means, even if we cut holes in Gold’s fencing, or trespassed, we could defend ourselves in court by saying we broke the law because other crimes (human trafficking, or false imprisonment) were being committed. Just an idea.

    I know you don’t know me from Adam, but there is potential to help others blow Gold Base. (Ugh, does that really sound as creepy as I think?)

    On the “necessity” defense:
    http://www.shouselaw.com/necessity.html

    • MaxSpaceman

      “…could inform would-be escapees from Gold”

      And what is the delivery system into a North Korea-quality Prison of Belief controlling all incoming and outgoing communications, of any kind.

      • Mo Reno

        How about an [redacted] as has been done before? How about… wait, why are you asking about methods prior to setting this up? Do I really have to inform you personally, or are you collecting data for OSA? Like I wrote before, no one knows me from Adam. Maybe we could establish bona fides prior to developing a strategy in public? Yes? Don’t take my concerns and strategy for a given just yet. Am I the only one of the two of us that has heard about $ci’s OSA trying to pull a fast one and impersonating online critics? Come on. Let’s be a bit more circumspect, shall we?

        • MaxSpaceman

          forget it, Moe.

          Was just saying good luck.

          • Mo Reno

            Nyuck nyuck. So… you’re not “in?”

            • MaxSpaceman

              lol

            • Mo Reno

              m/

    • Camilla Andersson

      Yes, it does sound a bit creepy! :). But it’s an idea for sure!!! Thank you.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Let me just remind you of another Surviving Scientology video where Gary ‘Jackson’ Morehead tells us about “Two to the Chest, One to the Head”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jL3ed4p7E

  • A bird in the chimney

    Very glad to see you’re out, Camilla. Well done, and kudos to you for keeping yourself together and struggling through doing your best for your time there. Here’s to better days ahead!

    • Camilla Andersson

      Hello Bird, thank you so much! Yes I am and will continue to do well.

  • Camilla Andersson

    To all my friends in the bunker. The original video was taken down by the Church of Scientology! Yes, that’s correct, They do not want that what I am saying goes public. There was a flaw in the video and they had someone file a complaint to YouTube and it was removed. There was over 3280 hits/views on the video in under 48 hrs. All is now lost, including all your fantastic comments. Please re-watch. re-like it and comment again as you had before! This information is going public. πŸ™‚ That’s why it says “Re-Uploaded”

    • Panopea Abrupta

      They could stop a trickle, they could stop a stream but they will not stop a flood.
      The tide is turning and LilFiveOne and all who stand with him will be swept away.
      Thank you
      xxxxxx

      • 1subgenius

        Who’ll stop the rain?

      • Camilla Andersson

        you’r welcome!

    • 1subgenius

      Your escape showed true courage, and reminded me of this lyric by Bob Dylan:

      How does it feel
      How does it feel
      To be on your own
      With no direction home
      Like a complete unknown
      Like a rolling stone ?

      • Camilla Andersson

        It feels wonderful to be on my own! I am so grateful for the life I now have! πŸ™‚ Thank you!

    • i-Betty

      You’re wonderful, thank you so much for speaking out πŸ™‚

      • Camilla Andersson

        Thank you miss i-Betty. Its a duty as well as I must help my awesome friends who are still in and have no idea what is actually going on. Thank you for your support.