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Is a Scientology front group among those fighting a European effort against ‘sects’?

Jonny Jacobsen

Jonny Jacobsen

Our man in Paris, Jonny Jacobsen, has a detailed report for us about one of the groups making noise about a European effort to crack down on “sects” that harm children. It’s a timely report, as a debate will be broadcast live about the issue today from Strasbourg — and Jonny’s provided us with a live link to listen in.

Campaigners are fighting a European initiative to protect children from the excesses of “sects,” arguing that it attacks religious freedom.

But not all of them have been clear about who they are — and what stake they have in the issues up for debate.

A small army of pressure groups is campaigning against a report due to go before the 318-strong Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) this week.

French deputy Rudy Salles, who drew up the report, argues that more needs to be done to protect minors from such groups. In his report, “The Protection of minors against excesses of sects,” he suggests measures that could be taken at both the national and the European level.

But his critics say his proposals amount to an attack on religious freedom. They are lobbying hard to persuade PACE members to reject his proposals.

But who are the critics?

One group is the snappily named European Interreligious Forum for Religious Freedom — Articles (EIFRF).

Its steering committee includes a Catholic priest, an evangelical pastor, a member of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, several academics — and Eric Roux, the main spokesman for Scientology in France.

No surprise here: Scientology has long made common cause with other religious movements where they feel they have a shared interest.

They have in the past teamed up with other controversial movements such as the Unification Church (or Moonies), and with any members of more mainstream religions prepared to share a platform with them.

So no mystery here: Roux’s allegiance to Scientology is clearly stated at the EIFRF website.

Others however are a little more coy.

An organisation calling itself the Central-European Religious Freedom Institute (CERFI) is another group opposing Salles’ initiative.

CERFI, based in the Hungarian capital Budapest, describes itself as a “non-profit organization for inter-religious cooperation and dialogue.”

On its own website, the Institute is clear about the need to be up-front in its conduct, stating:

“Founder, President, Executive director, Honorary Board Members and all Editors and Contributors are obliged to be impartial in their work and are not to use the website and the blog of the Institute for promoting religious communities to which they belong. In their work they will always keep in mind the purposes of the Institute as given above.”

That makes it all the more surprising that while it posts sympathetic coverage of Scientology — among other movements –– it doesn’t actually mention its links with the group.

The Institute’s president and founding member is Jura Nanuk, a Croatian photographer now based in the Hungarian capital Budapest.

At the website he describes himself as a human rights activist, a member of the Croatian Religious Liberty Association (who gave him an award in 2010) and a Vedic Ambassador. And he is happy to promote his book on Hinduism there too.

But what he does not find any space for is any reference to his long association with Scientology.

Jura Nanuk’s Budapest photography business pops up on a 2004 WISE directory at Kristi Wachter’s database collating information from Scientology’s own publications. (WISE of course is the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises.)

And details posted by a researcher, “Scn.hun,” at the Ex-Scientologist Message Board back in February 2012 suggest that Scientology’s connection to the Institute goes even deeper.

Scn.hun was responding to a report at Hungarian news website about the Institute.

The report named Nanuk and Tibor Krebsz as founding members, idenifying Krebsz as the leader of the Unification Church (Moonies) in Hungary. It describes Nanuk as a Hindu — a reasonable conclusion given the contents of the Institute’s website.

Scn.hun pointed out that Nanuk’s name features in the WISE directory for Central Europe.

And the website domain for CERP itself is registered at 1031 Budapest, Nánási ut 1/c — the official address of the Church of Scientogy there, and of WISE Central Europe.

So it seems reasonable to ask: who exactly does the Institute represent?

Is it just Nanuk and Krebsz, Scientology and the Moonies? Or can ordinary citizens concerned about religious freedom also get involved?

We wrote to Nanuk asking why he wasn’t more open about his background in Scientology — and for more details as to who exactly the Institute represents.

He got back to us within a few hours with this response:

Thank you for expressing interest in Central-European Religious Freedom Institute. CERFI is open to people of all religions as well as to atheists and agnostics as you could have seen on our website.

I’m surprised by your claim that CERFI website “carries plenty of sympathetic coverage of Scientology.” If you check our posts you will find out that out of total of 225 posted articles, there are only three of them concerning the Church of Scientology, and out those three articles, two are about the news from UK which was published by numerous media all over the world.

My religious affiliation is my private thing as well as the data about my sexual or political orientation. For whom did I vote on last elections, with whom did I sleep yesterday and to which God I’m praying, is part of my privacy. In Hungary where I live those things are considered sensitive personal data and nobody has an obligation publishing those data on his website.

As I never had opportunity to meet you, I looked at your website and your Facebook profile trying to find more about you. I didn’t find there any data about your religious or political affiliation, so I don’t understand why you believe I should advertise my personal data on my website.

Regardless of your religious conviction or political affiliation, you have right to express your opinion on any subject, this is your human right. Religious freedom is also one of the fundamental human rights. In my work in promoting religious freedom I cooperate with many people from different religious communities and I have no prejudice towards anybody.

The same Universal Declaration on Human Rights that grants you the right of freely express your opinions, also grants the right to freely practice any religion or belief. Mr. Salles’ proposal works directly against that fundamental right. Numerous individuals and groups protested against his proposal including me and my Institute.

In support of his proposal, Mr Salles doesn’t provide any documented cases of sectarian abuses of minors and it is question if such a cases exist at all. If they do exist, they can be prosecuted according to existing criminal laws and law on family, no additional special legislation is needed. The truth is that real purpose of Mr. Salles proposal has nothing to do with his concern about children, but it is just an attempt of forwarding his destructive anti-religious agenda at the Council of Europe.

I sincerely hope that members of Parliamentary Assembly of Council of Europe will recognize Mr Salles’ real intentions, and will reject his proposal.

Hope this answers your questions.

Well no, not really.

As president of an institute promoting religious freedom Nanuk has chosen to join the campaign against Salles’ proposals. Surely then it is only reasonable for him to be transparent on the question of his religious affiliation.

Scientology after all, is one movement that has been criticised for its treatment of children — not least by some of those who grew up inside it.

And while the institute declares itself open to all, that does not answer the question of who actually runs it and whom it really represents.

This is especially important given that Scientology has in the past been accused of using front groups to promote its own position without being open about the degree of its own involvement.

So the question remains: is the Institute anything more than a front for Scientology?

We have put those points to Nanuk and will keep you posted on any reply.

The Parliamentary Assembly is due to debate Salles’ report this afternoon in Strasbourg, from around 1330 GMT (that’s 9:30 am Eastern). If you’re minded, you can even follow the debate live.

ADDITIONAL: We’ve not heard back from Nanuk since we sent him our second message on Monday — but we did hear from Péter Bonyai, a former Scientologist in Hungary who is now one of its critics there.

“I know him personally,” he told us when we asked about Nanuk.

Bonyai, who posts as “Thalkirst” over at Ex-Scientologist Message Board, confirmed that Nanuk was a Scientologist — and not just any Scientologist: he was able to confirm some of the other allegations that Scn.hun had made about him.

“As far as I know, he is still in the Sea Org. He was the Membership Chief WISE Central Europe in 2012, and as far as I know, he is still on that,” he added, pointing to his entry in that WISE Central Europe weblink.

“Before that, he was working as a volunteer translator for Translations Unit (around 2000), and then he was recruited to be on staff.”

Finally, Bonyai sent over a fascinating screen shot. “Some additional info on our human rights champion,” he explained.


It shows a post from Nanuk ordering a Hungarian Scientologist to shut down a closed Facebook group he had set up to share classified ads among fellow believers. Why? Because the group is using a trademarked word, “Scientologist,” for business purposes. The very idea!

You’ll see that Nanuk signs himself off as Membership Chief WISE, CEE (Central and Eastern Europe, presumably). The attached post, Bonyai added, dates from January 18, 2103.

We asked Bonyai about his current position regarding Scientology. He explained that he had spent 10 years inside the movement (1995-2005) and another couple of years among the independents.

Today, he added: “I am not an independent Scientologist. I am not a rabid antagonist though and I do feel some sympathy for the people trapped in the Church. I respect the beliefs of independent Scientologists.”

Bonyai is busy translating the book he published in Hungary about his time in Scientology into English — and he’s promised us a review copy.

Looking forward to that.

— Jonny Jacobsen


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  • Baby

    OMG WTF is wrong with Disq tonight? I don’t see avatars.. it’s weird or pictures linked

    • Vaquera

      I’m not having a problem. Maybe you’re just special. :-))

      • Baby

        OK now It’s back to normal..( What ever normal is around this joint Texas..hahaha) Special? Oh we are all on the Bunker, huh?

        Edit.. I spoke to soon.. I see Val, your and lush’s avi..everyone else has Gray head generic..weird ..oh and no pictures.. sigh

        • Vaquera


        • Vaquera


        • Vaquera

          Hope it straightens itself out for you soon. I had a crappy date tonight and it’s left me in a foul mood. Closing my eyes to sleep it off. Comment with you mañana, bambino.

          • Baby

            Ohh Texas a Crappy date..ugh.. I came home from work and slept all night.. I was just exhausted! Tomorrow ( Oh today) will be better honey..sweet dreams

    • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

      I’ve had problems for a good part of the day. I know folks have talked about dropped posts and problems posting images, but today was the first time I had a problem with a post taking and then with an attachment or url being dropped. Maybe it’s sun flare activity or something. On another unrelated forum most users were booted forward about three hours ahead of time in their posts…

  • RMycroft

    The Googlebots are still chewing away at UmbraXenu. They wasted a day checking redlink category talk pages. (They might want to tweak the smarts a little because I doubt there’s a way for such a page to ever have content.) Back on to the good stuff now.


    By the time they’re done, they can go back and check again.

    • EnthralledObserver

      What’s this all about? Please enlighten me. (In dumbed down easy language, please) 🙂

      • RMycroft

        I created a new site, a media archive with a wiki page for each news article, a couple paragraphs and a link to the actual article. There are roughly 4000 articles, and similar number of categories linking all those articles together, and now the Googlebots are sloooowly crawling the site to figure out how to show it and rate it on Google depending of the linky-ness of all the data. At the rate they’re going, it’s going to take a while.

    • media_lush

      I has the sads… my scientologybollocks hasn’t made their blogs list (are you sure, ed?)

    • i-Betty

      I love the name of your website. It perfectly captures the dark, shadowyness 🙂

  • Sarah James

    I read Robert Robinson’s blog first. If Europe promotes this as written, it would protect children from scientology abuse. Paragraph 1,5 and 8. But this is just another way for Scientology to get it’s foot in Europe’s door?

  • Sarah James

    Want to share before sleep…I heard Jillian is in Texas. I don’t know why but she is sure to enjoy her visit, as everything is in bloom this time of year

    • Missionary Kid

      Derek reported that yesterday. He asked Jillian about his brother, found out he’s still in, but he hasn’t gone nuts.

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  • Pierrot

    Am I the only one having problems with disqus today?
    It does not show me the avatars nor the other pics or graphics unless I click on them.
    I have disabled adblock to no avail.

    • Andrew Robertson

      Avatars okay but need left click for pictures to load.

      Tried both Firefox 30.0a2 and IE 11 with same result.


  • He outted himself when he used the term ‘data’. Enjoy.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Test. Disqus is as consistent as weather in Ohio. End of test.

  • vistaril_LOL

    Damn you Dsqus we want our pictures!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Picture test. Do you have to click on it in order to see it or not?

    • midatlanticcoast

      It’s been doing this since yesterday evening for me. Your avatar is visible but none of the others are. Edit: Oops, I didn’t read the other comments. I need more coffee.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Ok. Refresh the page please and see if it’s still visible.

        • midatlanticcoast

          Refreshed twice. Yours is still the only one visible. You must be special!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Nah. Thanks though. This is a major glitch seems like.
            Hopefully not for long.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Re: your EDIT – That’s what I thought. Thanks.

    • Just Dee

      Had to click on the pic to see it. Refreshed the page and the pic is gone but your avitar is still there. But only in the top two comments.

    • Scream Nevermore

      No, I can see it without clicking on it.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just went to to look at the comments section – all avatars are visible.
    They use disqus there too. Perhaps it’s wordpress. Hopefully Tony and Scott will figure it out.

  • Charles Chadwick

    I did find it pretty suspicious when Nanuk (of the North =) cited the UN Declaration of Human Rights in his response message (something Church people seem to be obsessed with), and just the tone of the email, like he was insulted at the idea of even being asked about his religious affiliation. Like Tony was asking his sexual orientation. Pretty weird. If you ask a Christian what church he belongs to, or if there’s a Christian-oriented political interest group he’s in, he’ll tell you all about it, whether you like it or not. It more has the air of trying to silence illegality, ie: violation of child labor and human trafficking laws, international or not. Since $ci has no religious designation in a lot of these countries in Europe, and thus can’t use that as a legal smoke screen, laws concerning sects could have a huge effect on the organization as a whole…both bad pub and well, having church members sent to jail.

  • Scream Nevermore

    Lying liar lies.

  • For those who missed the fun, here’s a complete transcript of the afternoon’s debate, complete with British member Brian Binley’s passionate speech against the proposals — which has to be interrupted because they were still on the previous item.