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Celebrating two years in the Bunker: Jonny Jacobsen on Russia, and Sunday Funnies!

BunkerCommand2Two years ago today, we switched on the circuits here in our underground bunker. The cats have been especially needy this week, anticipating our anniversary, and we made sure and stocked up on kibble and booze for today’s celebration.

For those of you who have been with us since the start — and many of you who were with us earlier, during our days at The Village Voice (2007-2012) or even before that, at New Times LA (1999-2002; Tory Christman and Mark Ebner and Mark Bunker, among others) or even a few of you who stretch all the way back to the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999; Rick Ross and Jeff Jacobsen, for example) — we humbly thank you for putting up with our adventures into the weird world of Scientology for so long.

So let’s kick off Year Three in the Bunker!

First up, before we get to this week’s Sunday Funnies, we asked Jonny Jacobsen about a raid that happened Thursday at the Scientology org in St. Petersburg, Russia. We heard about the raid early Friday afternoon, but our Russian translator cautioned us to be careful with the story. Our translator had concerns about the media organization reporting it, and said the involvement of the church itself was unclear.

So while the story came out on WWP yesterday, we waited and asked our man in Europe, Jonny Jacobsen, to make a quick study of what was going on. We’re glad we waited. Here’s what he sent us.

I have mixed feelings about this one.

So far as I can tell, Interior Ministry officers raided Scientology’s St Petersburg offices on Thursday looking for evidence on the Olympus property development business run by Scientologists Catherine and Michael Zaborsky.

Earlier this month fraud charges had been filed against Catherine Zaborsky after clients complained that the company had failed to deliver on promised property developments.

Is it just a coincidence that the European Court of Human Rights is about to hear a case on Russia’s failure to recognise The Church of Scientology in St Petersburg as a religion?

Here’s the relevant extract from page five of a recent ECHR press statement setting out forthcoming judgments:

Church of Scientology of St Petersburg and Others v. Russia (no. 47191/06)

The applicants in this case are the Church of Scientology of St Petersburg, an unincorporated group of Russian citizens formed for the collective study of Scientology, and six members of this group: Galina Shurinova, Nadezhda Shchemeleva, Anastasiya Terentyeva, Ivan Matsitskiy, Yuliya Bryntseva, and Galina Frolova, Russian nationals, born in 1954, 1955, 1979, 1975, 1977, and 1955 respectively. The case concerns their complaint about the authorities refusing to register their Scientology group as a legal-entity.

Between March 1995 and August 2003 the applicants’ Scientology group, led by Ms Shurinova since the late 1980s, submitted six applications for registration. The registration authorities rejected all their applications, each time citing new grounds for their refusal. The most recent refusal referred in particular to the alleged unreliability of a document confirming that the group had been in existence for 15 years, a legal requirement under Russian law for any new religious group to be registered. In October 2003 the applicants challenged the refusals in court and, in December 2005, the St. Petersburg District Court held that the refusal to register their group as a legal entity had been lawful, citing defects in the document confirming the existence of the religious group for 15 years.

This judgment was upheld on appeal in May 2006.

Relying in particular on Article 9 (freedom of thought, conscience, and religion) interpreted in the light of Article 11 (freedom of assembly and association), the Scientology group complain that the decisions refusing to register them as a legal entity were arbitrary.

Back in 2007, the ECHR ruled that Russia had violated Scientology’s rights for failing to let the movement’s Moscow branch operate as a religion — and that case looks very similar to the summary of the St. Petersburg case about to come before the court.

So are the bad guys the Scientologists, who are ideologically committed to the notion that the end justifies the means; that it is acceptable to make money for the movement by any means necessary?

Or are real villains of the piece the Russian authorities?

For years now, they have been cracking down on Scientology and anyone else who doesn’t fit into the New Model Russia — again, by any means necessary.

It’s difficult to know who to dislike more.

The ECHR ruling in this latest case is expected this coming Thursday, according to the court’s statement.

— Jonny J.

 
We’ll have our Russian language friends keep an eye on the situation, and we’re grateful to Jonny to so quickly provide us with a preliminary look at this dispute — which appears messy, at best.

Now, let’s get on to our Sunday funnies!

 
You may remember the recent brochure Scientology put together boasting that it was about to unleash a television tsunami that would be magnitudes greater than any publicity campaign the church has ever produced. Naturally, we’ve wondered what “Scientology TV” would look like since David Miscavige picked up the KCET TV studios in LA. Well, could it be that Scientology is starting a soft launch — in Melbourne, Australia of all places?

 
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Yesterday, Melbourne resident Michael Moore watched the debut of this fledgling effort, and posted his impressions to Facebook:

Started right in with a young Australian girl telling how she is winning with Scientology for about 5 minutes. This was followed by definition of ‘Thetan’ and a very brief summary of the parts of man, then a breakdown of the 8 Dynamics. This was the Australian Section. This was followed by a breakdown of the Admin Scale with dramatizations of the major points. This was evidently a US production slotted in and might have even come from a US video on the subject.
This was followed by a short piece on PR. I had to laugh as the data presented was right out of policy letters but not what the church actually uses. At the end there was a young Australian male explaining how Scientology has helped him. Noted was the Australian sections at the beginning and end was filmed in the Local Melbourne Church. It was a slick presentation and although some quotes by LRH were used, there was no acknowledgement of LRH or of source and no pictures of LRH. The closest to source was a background image of ‘L. Ron Hubbard‘ shown during the young man’s talk. I wondered how come the Church managed to get a half hour (less ads and sponsors) slot on community TV but this was followed by a Greek Orthodox program and possibly others. I finally worked out that as the current Federal Government is trying to get community TV disbanded so they can sell the wavelengths for money to other commercial stations, it is likely CTV are accepting ANY religious programs to boost their importance in the community and garner support for community TV, hence the willingness to accept what even here is a controversial church.

 
What, no LRH? Sacrilege!

Sounds like the perfect antidote to insomnia, to us.

 
Can any of our antipodean readers figure out how big of a check Mr. Ripley had to pay to make “Continental Emerald Humanitarian”?

 
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Ever wonder what the hour-by-hour schedule was for a weekend Ideal Org conference? Probably not, but here you go anyway…

 
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The Book-a-thon is on! And Dianetics is going like hotcakes.

 
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Last week, there was yet another fundraiser for the San Fernando Valley org, and here are the results. As Mike Rinder pointed out over at his blog, if that crowd at the end is all they could pull together for a united Los Angeles area alliance — a geographical area with the greatest concentration of Scientologists in the world — then the end days really do seem upon us.

 
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Oh yes! Stacy Francis! This means we get to pull out our old stories about her!

 
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Is there trick or treating going on? If someone were to show up in, say, a Guy Fawkes mask, would they get a trick or a treat?

 
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We couldn’t pass this one by. It’s not every day we get a flier from the Las Vegas Celebrity Center, which brings to mind its most famous staffer, ever.

 
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Remember Mary? We’ve enjoyed her antics as one of the “Valley girls” trying desperately to raise money for the Ideal Org there. Is it just us, or is the passive-aggressive nature of this testimonial just off the charts?

 
meg

 
We’ve heard Minty Alexander’s name occasionally over the years, but we’d appreciate it if one of our oldtimers let everyone in on her 411.

 
minty

 
Last week, we wondered how Fearless Leader had voted in the Scotland independence referendum, and this week he’s saying — nae gonna tell, laddy! Oh, that rogue.

 
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Oh yeah, this is just what your family and friends want to hear — how they can get back on the Bridge. We can imagine how that’s going to go over.

 
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WHOA! Who is the 4th Sea Org member ever? Come on, oldtimers, fill us in! And he or she is going to talk about OT III! Won’t everyone in the room get pneumonia and die? (Curious about Ron’s Journal 67? We included all 40 minutes of it in a post we did with Jon Atack more than a year ago.)

 
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Steve is the man in Philly.

 
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For these next two fliers, have you noticed that some of the events have been fancified, with mere participation costing $100? Is this because too many people were bolting from events without even donating that much?

 
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And finally, we’ll end this party with words from the Great Man himself. This is one of those quotes you just want to frame and put on the wall.

 
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Wow, we really had a fun time putting together this week’s Funnies. We want to give a special thanks not only to our great tipsters, who have been so generous over the last two years, but also to Scott Pilutik, our attorney and webmaster, for keeping us from freaking out when technical problems cropped up from time to time.

Thanks to all of our readers for making the Bunker a thriving, living community.

 
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Nanette Asimov on Jamie DeWolf: Superb!

What a great piece Nanette Asimov has written for the San Francisco Chronicle about a guy we’ve been predicting for years was going to blow up in a big way, L. Ron Hubbard’s great-grandson, Jamie DeWolf.

Nanette — niece to the great science fiction writer, Isaac Asimov — is responsible for one of the best Scientology exposes of all time, a 2004 series that convinced the State of California to rethink its connection to Narconon, Scientology’s deceptive drug rehab network. And she’s in great form here, with a sensitive and thorough portrait of the very talented man we’ve been getting to know.

Jamie is a star. And we can’t wait to see what he does next.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on September 28, 2014 at 07:00

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UP THE BRIDGE (Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48

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  • Sid

    Mary from Los Angeles, why is the young mom’s stated ‘win’ on anti-depressants any less valid than your gleeful auditing ‘wins’? She probably feels better every day, whereas auditing euphoria usually lasts about 3 hours.

  • LHS

    “I’m driving on the freeways with people medicated on psych drugs.”

    Right, Mary Elizabeth. Just being near people on psych drugs is dangerous. Thank you SO much. If there’s one thing people with mental health issues need, it’s more ****ing stigma from ignorant morons like you.

    • ze moo

      Mary is too brainwashed to know anything about psychiatry or baby formula. I wonder if her kids have been treated for beriberi, rickets or kwashiorkor?

      • Verve

        Some idiot married this goofball and procreated with her? Wow.

    • kemist

      Even worse : we have to drive on freeways with deluded morons like her.

      An arrogant, stupid cow who think she is saving the planet by chasing dead alien souls with a 1940’s novelty toy and shouting at ashtrays.

      Personally I find it quite a bit scary to know she operates a car.

      But she probably won’t keep it for between buying her bridge to total bankruptcy and moving up in status, so it’s all good.

      • Captain Howdy

        IMO, magical thinkers should not be allowed to operate heavy machinery, own guns, et cetera, et cetera.

    • Ardent

      LHS, I too had a very strong visceral reaction to Mary Elizabeth’s little ‘tale’. I wanted to drop her an oubliette for harassing young mothers. What arrogant, ignorant posturing. And the smugness? Where’s my bucket?

  • Captain Howdy

    Howdy is two today? Makes sense seeing as how he can barely walk,

    Happy Anniversary Tony & Bunker Crew!
    ….

    • stillgrace2

      I hope your feet aren’t bothering you today, Captain.

      • Captain Howdy

        They’re numb and the rest of me is catching up rapidly..so, no bother. Thanks for asking.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          That Fent helps anybody, anytime.

          • Captain Howdy

            Tell that to my primary care, dude.

      • Captain Howdy

        Fecking 49ers, aaagggh! Somebody needs to teach these idiots how to tackle. Pathetic.

        • stillgrace2

          I know, I know, you should hear the expletives here. God, I hope they don’t lose today. I couldn’t bear another creepy Kaepernick interview!

          • Captain Howdy

            I missed the Kaepernick interview. It’s hard for me to root for the 49ers because I think Hardballs is an asshole and a really uninspired coach, and Ithink that Kaepernick has the physical gifts, but is lacking in the leadership/decision making ones.

            • stillgrace2

              When he loses, he hides behind huge sunglasses and huge earphones around his neck. He mumbles one word answers to questions. He doesn’t lose well and I’m embarrassed for him. Hardballs is fun to watch because he’s so emotional, angry, and over-the-top. Did you see that last 49er touchdown? Fantastic toe drag in the end zone!

        • Are you a 49ers fan?

          • Captain Howdy

            Uhhh, I’ve only said i was born in S.F at least a 100 times, Derek. : )

            • Well then you and I are rooting together. did you see that penalty the Eagles accepted. LOL Oops? I know the coach wanted to throw the challenge flag at himself on that one.

            • Captain Howdy

              Hip Hip Hooray!

            • Ugh i hate this right now.

        • Verve

          Hah, try being an Eagles fan today. 🙁

  • i-Betty

    In honour of this special day, here is a link to the first article Tony ever wrote involving scientology for the Phoenix New Times back in 1995 🙂

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1995-11-30/news/hush-hush-sweet-charlatans/

    • aegerprimo

      THAT was awesome! Thanx for the link iBetty! (You rock as usual).

      • i-Betty

        Ee by gum, lad, thanks! As they say Oop North 😀

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Vintage Tony 😉

    • Verve

      Tony has been The Man since Day One. His verbiage can be Shakesperean journalism at times. Coming from someone that can barely write a properly constructed sentence, it is pure enjoyment to read Tony’s stuff.

      • i-Betty

        You just use the word ‘verbiage’, Verve. I don’t think you have anything to worry about 🙂

        PS. Your name has just made me think of one of my favourite songs of all time, The Verve’s Bittersweet Symphony. I’m going to have to play the album now!

  • villagedianne

    Thanks Tony! The Bunker is the first place I go every morning.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Me too.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Me three

  • Happy 2 year anniversary Tony! We truly appreciate everything you do to highlight the abuses of this “religion.”

  • Bradley Greenwood

    Is it just me, or does it look like the figure in the “NY OT Committee” logo is being UNWILLINGLY pulled onto the bridge, being hotly pursued by three church goons?

    • Sherbet

      It’s not just you.

      • Bradley Greenwood

        Maybe we are both just paranoid 😉

    • That’s how Scientology works, actually.

  • aquaclara

    Two years at the Bunker – what an incredible milestone, and second only to the celebration of your very first story on Scientology.
    Sending you my deepest congratulations for your tenacity, courage and spot-on journalism. It is a pleasure to be here, watching great stories break, leaks fill bucket upon bucket, and former members recover from their traumatic experiences, only to turn around and help the others.
    The stories you cover here get to the heart of the matter, exposing the secrets and the fraud and the pain. And when there is something to celebrate, well, there is no better crowd to share a clink of the glass or a wetting of the head with.
    Thanks, Tony. Happy anniversary.

  • Narapoid

    I was a member of Scientology back at it’s peak 3 decades ago. I saw Tom Cruise’s film “Oblivion” (which is a profoundly ironic film for him to make) and I was curious about what it was up to when I looked it up in the ‘net. When I jumped, fell, got sucked into the rabbit hole looking up Scio on Google a year and a half ago, it was the Village Voice 25 People Crippling Scientology that helped me make sense of the mess. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/08/xenu_top_25_crippling_scientology.php

    Then I found Wise Beard Man’s (Mark Bunker) videos on youtube, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrVttHNvZVI), then Tory Magoo and the different media covering atrocities always routinely denied by the cult. However, it wasn’t until I started following the ‘Bunker, that I got really hooked. It was during the first stages of Mosey’s case last year and the live from Texas coverage that made me miss work.

    Leah Remini blew just a month or so after I made The ‘Bunker part of my well-rounded breakfast of coffee and cigarettes and the first thing I check as soon as I get off work. I now know names like Miscavige, Tommy Davis, Debbie Cook, Mike Rinder and Mike “Marty” Rathbun. Things like RPF, The Hole and Accepted Truth and the ugly truth behind them.

    A great many of the stories have brought me to tears of anger, but found joy from laugh-out-loud shoops from Observer and Mark, and clever commentators. Great contributions from Karen De La Carriere and J. Swift (and OT8isGreat!!). Their videos and interviews shine a light into the tender dark secrets of the beast.

    The end of this damned thing can’t come quick enough and I think my speculated date for Little Nero’s departure or deposition of Foctober 14, 2014 won’t happen. That’s OK, we still got the ‘Bunker for the hideous end to this abomination.

    I wonder how many others think the same 2 things that always cross my mind when the post is late: 1) Tony is working on a killer story and is backing it up like the pro journalist he is or 2) the bastards have done something to him.

    Tony, take care of yourself as you are doing God’s work and I will buy your book when it comes out. (How to end it though?) Bless all of you Bunkeroos too.

    • Ardent

      Great post, Narapoid, and welcome to the Bunker. This is the first time I’ve run into you, and I like the cut of your jib. Cheers!

  • Ardent

    Hi Tony. I want to thank you for providing the Bunker to us, and using your really dogged investigative skills to help expose the cult for the evil organization it is. I send a million congratulations to you on this anniversary, and I am sure many other Bunkerites have done the same. I do hope, eventually, you will be recognised for your extraordinary journalism in this area. And for your kind and thoughtful oversight of the Bunker, I thank you personally for help you have given me. Three cheers, Tony! You are a force for good, and I hope you feel the admiration and fondness coming across through the ether. Very Best, Ardent.

  • Ardent

    To Michael Moore in Melbourne, and any other Aussies: was this crap aired on SBS? I don’t know CTV, (save that it is familiar as a Canadian network) but I never lived in Melbourne, and I can’t think of it being offered on Foxtel? By gum, it makes me angry that such twaddle be aired on TV – ANYWHERE.

    • Elar Aitch

      Ardent it sounds like community TV. Channel 31 in WA airs only in the metro region and for the most part shows old cowboy movies with the occasional local soccer shows. Tiny viewing audience.

      • Ardent

        Thanks Elar. I was deeply puzzled.

  • aegerprimo

    ♥ Happy Anniversary Underground Bunker! ♥

    Thank you Tony Ortega for all you have done over the years to expose and accurately report the endless crimes and muliple abuses of the Cherch of $cientolgy, it’s founder L. Ron Hubbard and it’s leader David Miscavige.

    Holla! and thank you to all my Bunkerite friends who help with Tony Ortega’s daily quest, who have made me think, laugh, cry, get angry and active on a daily basis. I love and appreciate ALL of you so much!

    (refresh for image)

    • Ardent

      Ha! Lovely, Aeger! (fist-bump)

  • Xique

    The Bunker has made me laugh and on other occasions made me cry. I love it here. My husband remains in their clutches. May he find his way out sooner than later because I’m not sure how much more I can tolerate. Meanwhile this place is a lifeline to me. A big thank you to Tony O and all of the contributors to this blog. It’s been fascinating not to mention so supportive.

    • Ardent

      I hope your husband can find real salvation and escape the claws that snatch, the jaws that bite, and rejoin you in reality soon. I mean it. I am very sorry for what you must be enduring. Just know that those of us here in The Bunker will be supportive of you, and him when he escapes, and if you need to use The Bunker as a sounding board for your fears or woes, we will be here. I am certain I speak for many. All strength to you, Xique.

      • Xique

        Thank you ever so much.

        • Ardent

          You have my absolute respect and support. Please know that I care.

    • Eclipse-girl

      (((HUGS))) no one should have to lose anyone to this criminal enterprise

      • Xique

        Thanks Eclipse-girl! Really.

    • Baby

      Oh X.. whenever you need to come and vent, scream, cry or laugh we’re open 24/7..

      and if he doesn’t find his way out.. doesn’t mean you have to give up your life honey.. We’re here for you. I’m sure you are in pain. ((HUGS)) baby

      • Xique

        Thanks Baby, your the best.

    • Verve

      Monkey hugs to you. I wish the best for you and your husband (to get out). Remember, there are lots of people here who eventually got, even after decades in. There is still hope!

  • Ardent

    Poor Michael Ripley is a sap. By all that is good, let’s hope he sees sense soon and stops squandering his money on a vile, selfish, lying enterprise. Poor deluded guy.

  • FromPolandWithLove

    Happy Birthday The Underground Bunker!!! :):):)

    And here is Polish birthday song “100 Lat” . Tony and The Bunker Team, remember Poland is always with You:)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDl6oWohq7k

    • Elar Aitch

      Good to see you Poland

      • FromPolandWithLove

        Thank You :):):)

  • Jgg2012

    Yes, come celebrate. This year has brought Scientology nothing but The Ham and goose eggs. They’re full of baloney. Soon they’ll be toast.

  • Sid

    “a proven way” (refresh)

    Note: If anyone thinks this hypnosis thing is a bit too over the top, let’s just do some TRs for a few hours until we don’t have any more disagreements.

  • DeElizabethan

    I want to thank Tony again, for his help thru the Bunker in finding friends who have supported, listened and trusted me (Tony was the first). They have seen the peels left on the onion come off. Fortunately, a couple of them live close enough to occasionally give some hugs, (and party-time too) and have turned into the best of friends.

    I could say friends at the Bunker have saved my life, but actually they enhanced it as any good family/friends would do, which I had not previously had at all, because of Scientology.
    So thank you to all Bunkerittes for helping ex’s regain understanding, respect in our lives, sanity and to enjoying it more.

    • i-Betty

      And thank you for being one of the nicest people to ever leave a cult. You really are a special person, Dee 🙂

      • DeElizabethan

        Thank you i-Betty. I left the cult twice no less. First time I was retired and didn’t go back, then had a wonderful life with new hubby for 22 years. Second time I went back, not having the right friends and was still in sorrow. Thankfully it didn’t take me long to see the truth and get out permanently. Going back was prolly the best for me and worst for them, plus it gave me a new goal in life and new real friends.

        • Stacy

          This is an amazing story. Many of you tell stories of having to escape twice. This just emphasizes the extent to which CoS can get its claws into people. Which makes it amazing when someone finds the will to attempt escape a second or a third time. Congratulations on your real world successes Dee.

    • aegerprimo

      Wow, Dee! Thanx for all you have done to share your story. You are special and an inspiration to exes like me who still remain somewhat anonymous.

      • DeElizabethan

        Understand your anonymity as I had mine. In time it will change no doubt as it did with me and others. I am not finished yet with my story and others will release there’s as they see fit and comfortable I’m sure.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I love you so much, Ma!

      • DeElizabethan

        Thanks Bury and same to you. I must have something right to be honored to have family such as you in my life.

      • Captain Howdy

        How’s your kitty doing and does s/he have a name yet?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Eddie! He is 5.1 lbs.
          AND,..I would like to send you the toilet video…but that might be weird.
          REALLY WEIRD!!!

          But, he is fascinated by the potty, and trying to figure out how come HE has a catbox and we humanoids have this cool thing with self disposal with this cute little two fisted switch.
          Seriously……..I have video of him trying to scratch the seat into the abyss like a good housekeeper.

          Shit, I need another drink.
          Even my Cat is a freak!!!

          • Captain Howdy

            We demand the vid!..eventually.

          • aegerprimo

            I want to see the kitten toilet video.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I will think about it.
              And possibly post it.
              But it is kinda embarrassing.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Why, is there a big floater in the bowl?

          • Stacy

            Could you post a pic of your kitty Eddie? Sounds like he’s about 6 months old based on his weight? My newest kitty is that age and weight right now too. Gotta love the kitties

          • Sydjazz

            You could toilet train him

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I am totally doing that with the next furball.

      • DeElizabethan

        Just now refreshed. Wow. LOVE it!

      • Baby

        Mom always did like you better brat..

        • DeElizabethan

          Only cause she was first child. You the baby, and liked no less.

          • Baby

            Oh OK mom.. plus she is soooooooooooo needy..xo

    • Awww what a sweet note! Glad things are going well for you! <3

      • DeElizabethan

        Thanks Derek. The Bunker enabled us to be friends, know your story and to help each other too. I hope all is well with you also. <3

    • Baby

      Awwwwwwwwww we love you Dee.. my dear, dear friend.. xo

    • Verve
  • Russia is an example of how not to deal with Scientology, in my opinion. This is a true example of the lesser of two evils and Russia’s stance on human right’s issues is a lot more dangerous than Scientology since the Russian government wields much more power and influence.

    Unreal that Scientology is going to infomercials. I wonder if this flock will see this as a step up or a step down? Infomercials are so cheesy and annoying. Do people even watch them anymore?

    • Vaquera

      “the Russian government wields much more power and influence.” That must really piss off the Cap’t.

    • Captain Howdy

      Russia has never had a “democracy”, and just like the Arab nations, they never will. It’s not in their culture or psyche. That said, I don’t see the “democratic” approach in the U.S working so well in eliminating cults and cult like thinking.

      • I’m not sure what all that means, but I am with Jonny. I do not feel like the ends justify the means in any situation–even when it comes to calling for an end to Scientology.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          It doesn’t matter if you and I think it.
          It is what Russia thinks.

          And therein lies the problem

          • The saddest part is that the way that Russia is treating Scientology can actually end up helping them by giving them sympathy points in the rest of the world. Which is why even if the right way of eliminating them is drawn out and frustrating, it goes a lot longer that way towards the right goal than the way Russia is doing it.

          • Captain Howdy

            What it means is our our western subjective concept of freedom is not how the majority of the world operates, and never has been. and never will be. And we’re arrogant to think otherwise.

            • You are painting with a very broad brush, there.

            • Captain Howdy

              Humans are only as complicated as they think/imagine they are.

            • Are you using the Deepak Chopra random quote generator?

              http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/

            • Captain Howdy

              Uhhh..Wax On, Wax Off.

            • grundoon

              “Your body shapes the doorway to phenomena!”

              Makes more sense than most of Hubbard’s drivel, quite in addition to the pancreas.

      • L.Ron Hubbard

        Russians are fucked just like Americans. Easy “marks”

        One little shitty European country always bothered me. Failing Org and such. But it’s Caribean Islands could always count on my prescence.

        -Ron

    • DeElizabethan

      I don’t. I somehow thing there time has come and gone. Who knows?

    • aegerprimo

      I think (and hope) most people know infomercials are a bunch of snake oil.

  • A Guest

    Hi everyone. It’s me, Cars.

    Tony, congratulations on your second anniversary. My plan had been to give you this only next November 2015, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of publishing your first story about scientology and cults, featuring Rick Ross. Due to recent events, I’ve changed my mind. Since I won’t be using this anymore, I thought it would be a perfect 2nd anniversary gift instead.

    On Nov. 2015, I had also planned to link to that story as my gift of appreciation to the Bunker’s commenting community itself. If no one has beat me to it, here is the link http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1995-11-30/news/hush-hush-sweet-charlatans/full/

    BTW, Tony, would you please take Grundoon out for a spin in it sometime. I neglected to
    do so in my haste to unload it… errr… I mean clean it up and wrap for you.
    (refresh)

    • MaxSpaceman

      Cars !

      • A Guest

        A special hello to you, my Mysterious Max of the Many Avatars.

        • Sherbet

          Hey, you little gullwing. I don’t know what happened, but if it’s serious enough to keep you away for awhile, then that’s what you have to do. HOWEVER, consider all the Bunkeroos coming out of the woodwork to beg you to stay. I can only hope that a Bunkerite or two might notice I’m missing if I were to disappear. You are obviously much beloved here. So do what you have to do, but I hope what you have to do is stay here in the Bunker among friends.

          • Captain Howdy

            If you left I would roam the streets of Slumberville wailing “Sherbert! Sherbert!” like Jacob Marely, night & day, day & night.

            • Sherbet

              Aw, that’s pretty sweet. I was fishing for somebody to say they’d miss me, and you bit. Anyway, yeah, I’d do the same for you. A Bunker without Howdy is like a day without sunshine. Hugs and all that gooey stuff.

            • Observer

              I would miss you like crazy!

            • Sherbet

              Ditto here.

            • A Guest

              Don’t fall for it, Sherbet! He’d follow you just to make sure you were pushing up daisies so he could take that little spaceship of yours and zoom in real close to freak out all the cows in the pasture and the good folks sitting in their backyards.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’m imagining Howdy stalking her like a Komodo dragon stalks a wounded animal.

            • Captain Howdy

              Bazinga!

              I just love Komodos

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I figured you did.

            • Captain Howdy

              My dad visited Komodo when he was in the Merchant Marines and said the villagers houses were built on stilts but that them and dragons seemed to get along..more or less. The guy that my dad bought the butcher shop/market from was on Komodo during WWII and he was standing night watch and I guess they didn’t know about the dragons. He heard a noise approaching and yelled out “password” with no response, more noise with no response. He turned on his flashlight and there before him was a 12ft dragon. He said he threw his flashlight up in the air, fired a couple of wild shots and ran back to camp. Nobody believed him.

            • Verve

              Sounds like a Tuesday to me. I.e.- awesome time.

            • Verve

              Would be funnier if he was hopping after her like a Kangaroo.
              (Yes, I am weird, thank you very much!)
              🙂

            • Sherbet

              Now, THAT I’d like to see.

          • Verve

            Monkeys like sherbert. And Sherbert, too. 🙂 So yes, it would be noticed.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks, my little simian pal.

            • Verve

              🙂

    • Lurkness

      Miss you and don’t give up on us all!

      • A Guest

        An especially big thanks to you, Lurkness. I haven’t dared read yesterday’s comments yet, but as I was scrolling through to look closer at Baby’s poster, I saw your avatar often. I did read your beautiful comment from a few days earlier when I checked to see if Disqus had deleted my account yet. It meant a lot to me and touched me deeply. I hope I didn’t cause you unnecessary alarm and hope I haven’t upset you in other ways by my behavior. I’m very sorry if I have. I know what a kind and compassionate person you are. Thanks again.

        • Lurkness

          See you here again soon! Lurk like me in the meantime–never a dull moment around here and you don’t want to miss anything. Toot-toot to you.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Cars, I love you so much. Please come back.
      Grundoon can teach us all so much.
      Forget this minor thing.
      I love and respect you both.
      Come home, Cars.!!!
      Please.

      Edit: And you have no clue how many times I have my ass handed to me by “Like, everyone here” in the last few years.

      • Baby

        Uh Yeah.. cars.. We’ve all let Bury have it..Fer Realz

        • Baby

          She can be a real bitch!

          ( Sorry Bury just shut up and take one for the team)

    • Eclipse-girl

      (((HUGS)))

      • A Guest

        Muah.

    • DeElizabethan

      Cars so good to see you. This is a grand present and maybe Tony will take us all for a ride someday!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        That gullwing is smokin!!!!!!

      • A Guest

        He doesn’t know it yet but my people will contact his people with a billion year contract for him to sign, guaranteeing everyone here gets to be taken for a spin.

        • DeElizabethan

          Taken for a spin is much better than taken for a ride LMAO.

          • A Guest

            Good one. LMAO, too!

    • noseinabk

      That is one beautiful car.

      • A Guest

        Ain’t it though! Talk to Tony (hint, hint) he won’t be needing it when he gets jetted around the world on his speaking engagements and book signing tours.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          When Tony said on the radio the other night that he did the first draft of his book last Novemeber I almost fell off my chair!

          • A Guest

            Yeah, that what I thought, too. Then I wondered how many lawyers were needed to go through it with magnifying glass and tweezers! I can’t wait.

            Wish I had a real car to give him when he publishes.

            • Verve

              I hear Matchbox makes some fine automobiles.
              (ducks and runs)

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              We will need to do Some kind of a party even if not a car!

    • Science Doc

      Be well. Seems like I always miss these sad events and am then at a loss as to what happened and why I won’t have the pleasure of someone’s company again. Be well and come back.

      • A Guest

        Thank you, Doc. That’s lovely of you to say. Just know that you didn’t miss anything. I had a meltdown and took my toys elsewhere to play. Don’t worry, it seems I’m already back. I think. I just meant to do a post and run, but I’m lingering.

        I hope you are well, too. Managing day to day tasks with disabilities takes Herculean effort, so I always appreciate and look forward to your comments. I have learned a lot from you.

        • Baby

          Get your ass in here.. Change your avi and Rev up your engine.. Come on.. Come on.. xo

          • DeElizabethan

            Wondered where you’ve been Baby. Night shift on?

            • Baby

              I still have that damn ear infection and feel woozy every time I stand up..Motion sickness. I don’t know why the antibiotics haven’t kicked in yet.. ; /

            • Eclipse-girl

              Take them drugs. If they do not start to work in 24 / 48 hrs get yourself back to the doctor / clinic / hospital.

              I am glad this infection has not left you in pain.

              (((HUGS)))

              You need to tell me all of what you have been doing.

            • Baby

              I have another Dr. apt on Wed. I’ve had the ear ache for awhile and was in pain.. but now it’s vertigo and upset stomach and loss of balance..dizzy etc.

            • DeElizabethan

              So sorry Baby. Lots of love your way and hope the doctor helps more.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Can you push up the appt as the medicine does not appear to be working?

            • Baby

              I’m going to call him tomorrow.. E.. thanks honey

            • Eclipse-girl

              Thank you. We worry about our friends here

            • Vaquera

              My paternal grandmother lived in the Missouri Ozarks and had a distrust of doctors when it came to the more common aches and pains. At one point Myrtle had an ear ache that she decided to self cure….with Clorox! To quote her, “Well, it killed the infection, but I never did hear the same out of that ear. I guess it balances out the blind eye on the other side of m’face.” I loved that broad.

            • Baby

              Texas..hahaha OMG.. I love that broad too..

            • Verve

              “Hardocre, man, hardcore.”

            • Jo

              Vertigo sucks. I had it for about 5 or 6 months, can’t remember. I walked all wobbly and couldn’t drive. I got some wee white tablets from Doc’s and haven’t had it since.

            • Baby

              My husband had to drive me to the Dr. Jo.. It’s like I’m sea sick all the time. ugh

            • Jo

              I found it bad when I tried to sleep, room kept spinning. It got better, then stopped. It took about 6 months for the tablets to work. That was over 2 years ago, no problems since. It’s horrible, I feel for you. I got dizzy washing my hair and doing normal stuff, like emptying the bin etc.

            • Baby

              Yes! ugh

            • aegerprimo

              Hope you don’t need a myringotomy – http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/myringotomy – a simple outpatient surgery if antibiotics are not working as the only treatment. Have you had ear infections often?

            • Baby

              aeger.. I have been getting them off and on for a couple of years now..The last time I went to urgent care..

              I will ask my Dr. Wed if I need to see a specialist.. sigh.. I can’t take it anymore.

            • aegerprimo

              Your doctor will probably recommend an ENT (Ears Nose Throat) specialist. They are nice doctors, and usually deal with children so they have great bedside manner. (Kids get sinus and ear infections WAY more often than adults).

            • aegerprimo

              Jeez, I hope that made sense.

            • aegerprimo

              If you do need to see a specialist, and ENT doctor, just know they are very precise and caring doctors (surgeons as well). Most of them have patients who are children, and that requires a very special bedside manner.

            • Baby

              Thanks aeger.. sigh.. ; /

            • Verve

              Ugh, I have had so many ear infections I had my tympanic membranes
              replaced in both ears, one of them twice. And I now I have no eardrum
              in one ear (it blew out again). I really need to get a hearing aid.
              Anyhoo-
              I feel your pain, Baby. Do you have any idea how hard it is to throw
              poo accurately when you’re dizzy? Makes such a mess on the curtains. 🙂 Take care of yourself.

            • Baby

              Oh poor monkey.. Wow you’ve been through the wringer.. Sorry about your hearing loss.. More monkey.. come here and sit in my play pen.

              Leave your poo behind though I gots my own.

            • Verve

              Bah, life happens, ya deal with it. That ranks about #5 on my “poor me monkey” list. But I genuinely appreciate your concern/feelings/etc.
              And I will gladly let you do the poo thing; it tires my arm out, heh. So many numbskulls, so little.

            • Baby

              Ha

          • Observer

            ^^^^This!

    • aegerprimo

      ♥ Love you Cars ♥

      • A Guest

        Thanks, AP. I admire, respect, AND love you. I hope you know that already. I don’t ever, ever want to hear you call yourself a procrastinator or lazy (or whatever word you used) again, you hear? It’s incredible what you do and accomplish online, on ALL the critic sites, in the course of a day/week/month – never mind what all else you do in the course of your day job!

    • A Guest

      Second Post – Off topic and probably TL;DR (again!)

      To the Bunker:

      I want to thank this crazy, lovable, one-of-a-kind community. I also wanted to apologize for causing unnecessary worry and drama. I thought I had made a quiet departure the other day. Unbeknownst to me, deactivation of Disqus accounts are not immediate, although notifications are. So while I thought I left with no fuss, no muss, and was preoccupied with something else, you wonderful folks were concerned about what precipitated my sudden departure. It was only as I was reorganizing and cleaning up this computer’s desktop, closing tabs, and other housekeeping chores, I caught site of Qbird’s image and Baby’s colorful Cars poster in my peripheral vision. Of course, I had to stop and look. It was my undoing. When I started to read some of your posts, I was so touched (and mortified with embarrassment with the confusion I seem to have caused) that, uhm… you know, that odd substance that blurs your vision?… well, I haven’t been able to continue reading them yet. As you know, I no longer have windshield wipers to clear my field of vision so it’ll have wait until it stops “raining.” Until then, please know how profoundly moved, surprised and shocked (but in a nice way) I am by your reactions. The comment thread seems like a long one and, to be honest, it scares me a little. So much for my intention of staying in the wings and off stage!

      Today is not the day to derail the other discussions at hand but I don’t know when it would be a good time so I’ll try to say this without going into great detail, but I think I would disrespectful to you if I didn’t mention it. As to the reasons for my departure, they are complex and complicated and I’m afraid I’ll end up with an even longer TL;DR post – as is usually typical of me. Since I’ve been criticized for everything from being too polite to be on the internet (kisses to Cardinal) to not knowing my place on this blog (kisses to Grundoon) and because I used to live by a harbor which was home to a Naval shipyard and learned a colorful “other” language from sailors from many nations, I’ll summarize my understanding of what I think happened – Yes, I was f*cking pissed off but not for reasons others likely would know about unless they had closely followed a particular person’s comment history, like I had, or had observed long, involved back channel conversations that tried to modify that’s persons behavior and commenting style or if people knew me well. In any case, reluctantly I decided to intercede because I had observed a chronic pattern of abuse, insult, and injustice toward others and I had had enough of it. I could feel the tensions rising to almost explosive levels and didn’t want a repeat of another explosive situation like some months ago.

      Specifically what got my goat most of all was when I saw a much beloved commenter, who had spent a great deal of time, effort, and patience, having prolonged conversations in the Bunker’s back channels (that is his quiet, unassuming style and he is effective at it) with a problem poster, on the behalf of this community, get really angry and fed up with that commenter. But even he had enough and left that day with giving a flying fuck you, as he exited the Bunker, to our problem poster. This combined with another Bunker commenter being deliberately insulted and invalidated is what exhausted my tolerance. I thought I had disguised my anger by, at least, a veneer of politeness and civility, and I had a sincere interest in getting answers to my questions. I also wanted to make it clear that I wanted an honest, open, and sincere conversation but it was going to be “tough love” time, in other words – shape up or ship out. I was hopeful and encouraged by a few replies and thought we might be headed in a productive direction, but then an interruption occurred in the middle of that conversation and I reacted strongly because it felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me and, now, having lost face, I had no where to go with the original conversation.

      But then, as best as I can figure it out, timing and a very strange set of coincidences combined and contributed to my having a major blowout on the digital autobahn. The details are too long and varied. If I had to report to the highway police I’d have to say it was a no fault, freakish freeway accident and pileup. Look, if anyone is to blame, it’s me. Keeping pedal to the metal is a dangerous activity. I thought I gave that up in my adolescent years, but apparently not. My fury was not containable so I made the decision to close up shop. It was not spur of the moment. I gave it a lot of thought and consideration. I hope this clears it up. I tried to summarize it fairly, from my own perspective. I may have forgotten some details but I think it might explain most of it.

      So today, when I remembered Tony and the Bunker’s second anniversary, I decided to polish up, fix up, and give my beloved little roadster to Tony early. You can thank me all later for taking myself off the highway. You are all safer now. But damn it, now I’m forever f*cked because I Don’t Rent Cars!

      Lastly, Grundoon, get a proper functioning g*damn avatar so it doesn’t look like your username is continually up for grabs and in use. No wonder I could never “stalk” you for very long. Sometime ago, I almost took it personally that you didn’t want me to follow you on Disqus and thought you had taken evasive action by using throw away accounts to and shake me loose to keep me off your comment trail. I couldn’t decide if that was the reason or if there were a lot of Grundoons in the Bunker. You make it hard to be part of your fan club, you know.

      BTW, I’m glad to see the last commenter I was trying to have a conversation with has written a substantial post today. I like it. It almost makes it worth losing my little car over. I’ll say “Bye-Bye” for now because I no longer have a horn to say “Toot! Toot!” with. The Proprietor has been hatted with additional responsibility now – Tony the Tooter. Doesn’t sound half bad…

      Thanks again everyone. I’ll read your posts when I have the emotional fortitude to do so. Because Qbird’s concern and her touching post(s) were the first I saw and read (then lost it), I’m posting the image she sent me and which I found so touching. In case you wonder how I feel about y’all…
      (refresh)

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        TL:DR……………..I already told you we love you.
        But some of us have the attention span of a gnat.

        BTW………You know what I remember the most.?
        That every time you used to post ( In the beginning)………….Tony O posted and FREAKED U OUT.
        That was SO FUNNY.

        • A Guest

          Yeah, I remember it well. It was as if his Uncle Sam fist busted through the Bunker wall and he was about to poke me in the eye with his Uncle Sam finger. Fun times. Scarey as hell though.

          Thanks, Bury.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Lol, yes,……….Now pull yer ass out of the funk…..(do you want me to direct my own same crap? Cuz I can)

            anyway, come home.
            You have too much to offer. dont make me come fist fight you.
            Cuz Q-bird and I are buddies.
            YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE.

            Seriously. I know how personal we can all take this. Because it IS personal.
            Hugs to you.
            Come on home.

            • DeElizabethan

            • Baby

              OMG Cars.. She will come and Fist fight you.. I know her.. She’s mean.. and can be dangerous.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Cars,
              you do not want to piss off BURY.
              You will get the full snark

          • DeElizabethan

            See Bury below and I ditto her.

          • Baby

            Here’s my car.. See we need you.. Mine is too small for us. ( refresh)

        • Eclipse-girl

          I would get startled, afraid when ever Tony O posted about something I wrote.
          I learned.

          DO not take it personally. ( learn from the experience )

      • Eclipse-girl

        Cars,
        I needed to take a break, too
        I still read every article and kept up with all of Karen’s videos and Jeff’s podcasts.

        I would vote up comments that were current at the time I was reading.

        I encourage to do just what I did.

        You have friends here. You always will.

      • Frodis73

        Love you Cars. Take a break…maybe that will work & you’ll feel like coming back.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’m glad to hear from you again. Whenever you feel like coming back, please do. Take your break and enjoy your time.

        The fact that Tony himself commented on your departure is a mark of how much you’ve come to mean to all of us. If you wish to reach me, I have a throw-away email account at skepticalmissionarrykid (note two rs in missionarry) at gmail dot com. Identify yourself in the subject line.

        As you can see, there’s a lot of Bunkerlove for your presence. When you’re ready, pick a new avatar, if you can’t use the old one, and you’ll be welcomed.

        • A Guest

          Thanks, Mish Kid. And thanks for all those long discussions you had with EO. They are remarkable and so are you.

          I’ve been aware that you go back channel to sooth upset feelings and smooth ruffled feathers around here. I don’t think I’ve ever told you how much I appreciated you doing that. It takes a lot of time, effort, and energy, and not many people are willing to do it anymore. Plus, you’re very good at it. I’ve always told myself that I’d go over those conversations you have had to learn from you but I never did. I could barely manage keeping up with the comments here and the blog posts on other critic sites. Hopefully, there will be time soon. I screwed up, I think, with EO but I never got the chance to get into it fully. It was important to me at the time. Some trolls seems worth the time and effort because they seem like lonely, lost souls and it seems shameful to not try to help.

          In any case, I was quite happy to see Ethics Officer’s post today. I hope he is being sincere and honest. If he is, please give yourself credit for that. I think you wore him down and he finally paid attention to what you were trying to say to him. I have to wonder if that wonderful, flying “Fuck you” finally got through to him. I laughed that morning when I read your post. Yet, at the same time, that’s what also got my anger at him ignited. With each subsequent insult and attack he made that day, the flame got fueled until I lost it.

          Oh well, live and learn; that’s what living is for anyway. Cliche but true. I hope you will finally get some rest from your Sea Org hours. (and better pay!)

          • Missionary Kid

            I was trying to determine if EO was what he claimed: someone kicked out of Co$.

            There are several things that I use to test where a poster stands. One is, have they ever said anything specifically criticising Co$/LRH/DM? EO claimed he had, but wouldn’t cite any. The second test is how they accept evidence presented by critics. They do whatever they can to diminish that evidence.

            I finally realized that EO had never left Co$ because, not only did he never criticize, but he definitely diminished any testimony from people that I accept as sincere and that I have met personally.

            I realized he was a denier of any criticism or negative information. He didn’t attack, he deflected. Passive/aggressive as hell.

            EO took the character of someone who was out, and of someone who could be reasonable. It was all a facade and a lie. You cannot have a reasonable dialog with someone who basically lies about who they are or what their true opinion is.

            The idea of a $cientology version of a holocaust denier suddenly popped into my mind. Both are deluded persons. Logic, proof, evidence, and reasoning have no impact on them. They are true believers, no matter what they claim.

            I don’t worry about what the effect of my words have on people like EO. It doesn’t matter to them. They consider me a degraded being, and, like most $cientologists, have an attitude of superiority.

            I’m glad that laugh out of my “FUCK YOU” to EO got you to laugh. I’m looking forward to the time that he crawls back in his hole and doesn’t come by any more.

            I’m done with the project, thank goodness, and I’m recuperating. I’m too old for that shit.

            Please, take care of yourself. I’ll try to do the same.

          • pluvo

            Nice to see you back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (See, I’m even using the frowned upon Kool Aide addict exclamation mark tech). Just get another car – the ‘guest’ avatar is too odd for you. I wouldn’t want to miss your comments. 🙂 No need because of one, two commenters to become a Bunker recluse – pls think about the rest of us.
            About the self acclaimed ‘putin-in Ethics Officer’ – don’t worry. He is manipulating with smoozing some commenters with his ‘superior insight’ and denigrating in a sly way the whistle blowers.

            • A Guest

              Hi Pluvo, thanks for this. I also appreciate the added touch of the exclamation mark “tech” – seriously. We may as well use it, as I suspect CoS members have been told to keep the marks to a minimum and it might become lost “tech” soon. I don’t know if you’ve noticed but in recent OT committee emails, which Mike Rinder has posted, they’ve started to use underline “tech” instead and hardly use exclamation marks. As if they don’t change their behavior as a result of reading these blogs!

              I haven’t read EO’s follow up posts today yet, so thanks for giving me a heads up as to his new strategy. Missionary Kid has noticed a similar pattern. I’m glad you told me, so I can keep me eye on how all that develops. I find it awfully interesting…

              I will take your suggestion seriously about getting an avatar and better username. I hadn’t planned on being here so long tonight and, now, I can’t even find or recognize myself. I’ve gotten myself so confused that I can’t tell who I’ve responded to and I even up voted myself! I’m still looking for that bright red car so I know where I am, so I can just imagine what it’s like for others.

              Good night and see you in the Bunker.

            • pluvo

              Hi Cars.
              Responding just now, as I was sleeping and at work meanwhile. Hope you get the
              late comment.
              “I hadn’t planned on being here so long tonight and, now, I can’t even find or recognize
              myself … “. The same happened to me. I was looking at the clock last night/early this morning and it was ‘suddenly’ three hours later than I had thought it was.
              What about a bright yellow car (if you like yellow), that you could find very fast in the
              comments section or one of these (some gorgeous colors):

              https://www.google.ch/search?q=colored+cars&client=firefox-a&hs=LXi&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&channel=nts&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=M7QpVIPRLpP58AW13YCQBw&ved=0CCEQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=644

              I didn’t say anything about a ‘better username’ (probably somebody else) – YOU have to be comfortable with it. When I changed from guest to ‘pluvo’ (means ‘rain’ in Esperanto (– I just love rain … and clouds), I was looking for a nice picture with rain but
              one couldn’t see the rain in the small avatar. So I found this with the rainbow and the droplets instead.

              About you ‘retreat’ from the blog – I understand your situation somehow. When I was
              fairly new on Marty’s blog – in the middle of one of my major decompression
              times – somebody ‘put me in my place’. It was two months that I didn’t comment
              anymore after that. Also I was still very vulnerable to state my opinion because I had to shed the mind control and its phenomena. The bunker can also get pretty demanding; sometimes one needs a break.

              About the troll: I actually agree with many things this new one says and I can get his viewpoint. This is not the point. He is denigrating the whistle blowers interweaving it with ‘stating his opinion’. This one is cozying up, mostly saying the names of the commenters (he is soooo friendly) and pushing buttons to get a reaction to go on ‘handling’ the arguments of the commenters … and deflecting the theme of the blog (Missionary Kid got that right). It is also interesting to see to whom he doesn’t give an
              answer or a just a lapidary “peace brother”. So that was a long comment (for me :).

              Take care!

      • Lurkness

        Cars, I saw the accident (and the misunderstandings) on the digital autobahn. While it was a bit of a chain reaction thing, there is nothing for you to be embarrassed about. You were trying to do the right thing and there is never anything wrong with that or to regret. Never.
        Come back home and get a new cars account soon!

      • Baby

        Cars.. Listen to me very carefully… You will ALWAYS have a spot on the Bunker. ALWAYS.. I remember days that depressing shit would be posted by Tony..

        You know the reality that is going on with this fuckin cult. And then you would show up..( OK crying now) and just for that split second I felt better again. Just hearing your honk. Just seeing that car of yours…It just made a big difference to me.. to all of us that you touched.

        We need you here Cars. We need you to fight with us. We need your strength and humor and just your presence.

        Take a break.. the Bunker will not be the same without you.. Tony will give you back your car to keep you here.

        Shit happens. We all get hurt feelings. Thinking that our posts don’t count.. I have had words with many and I know that I won’t leave because the internet is bringing Scientology down.

        Cars.. I truly love you. The Bunker has been my lifeline since my twin died. Without you I feel like I am losing a part of my family.

        I would give anything to see your avi up there again. Your car. Because the thought of not seeing you here is more than I can bear right now. So please think about it. Love baby

        PS.. I’ll be waiting for you. I don’t care how long you take..I will be waiting for you.

        • A Guest

          Please don’t cry, Baby. This too shall pass. It’s not about you or me, remember? Let’s keep our sight on the prize, it’s getting closer… can you feel it? If I’m not here I’ll be on some other critic site, or both, or all of them – just like you are. Toot! Toot! and Honk! Honk! will be our special code. It’s just a username and an avatar, love.

          P.S. I don’t know if I should thank you or be mad. It was because I saw your big, colorful car poster that I even knew I had caused a disturbance the next day and although I didn’t read the comments yet, I could not let the day pass without saying something to you guys, especially on the Bunker’s second year anniversay. So seriously, thank you, I would have continued to feel bad about it if it hadn’t been for you. Talk to you soon.

          • Baby

            Well I think you should be mad.. And to show me how mad you are You just come back ..
            So there.. ( refresh) .. Take all the time you need ya big baby.. xo

      • Ardent

        Cars, I have no idea about this accident, but I really appreciate your commentary. Please reconsider? I will miss you! The Bunker is better for your presence. Sincerely, Ardent.

      • PRenaud

        Gee Cars, listening to the concern and pleas of your friends for your return to the Bunker makes me want to join them.

        • A Guest

          Be careful! I suspect they might be worse than the CoS in letting you leave! I haven’t read the other day’s comments yet, but I suspect they have special Bunker drills (held at some undisclosed bar) where they practice recovering members of the Bunker community. The difference being they use promises, pleas, hugs and kisses, and other sweet things to lure you back.

          • Eclipse-girl

            We meet in bars because alcohol works as a method to persuade people

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Official Bunker beer goggles(refresh)

          • endoftheQ

            In my case, they used caek and the promise of sea monkeys. 😉

          • Verve

            Bananas. Lots of banana smoothies, too. 😀

      • Captain Howdy

        Cars, I don’t know what to tell you except you are taking this whole thing way too seriously.

        It’s a comments section on the internet for chrissake!

        Lose the dramatics and report for duty in 72 hrs, MAKE IT SO!

        • A Guest

          Oh Howdy… FUCK OFF!!!!

          I am what I am.. says Popeye the Sailorman. And that’s why I enchant you and you adore me.

          Plus, YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

          • Captain Howdy

            THAT’S THE SPIRIT!

            Whatever doesn’t kill you, only makes you stranger stronger.

            • A Guest

              You got right the first time. …stranger.

              Notice I didn’t saw “strangler.” But hey, sometimes it obligatory and a civic duty.

        • L.Ron Hubbard

          The Hubbard is stronhg you.

      • nottrue

        You are one of those special people……Take care…..love and peace

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Cars I love you and hope to see you back soon! Thank you for the wonderful post. I have always looked forward to your insights – you contribute a lot to the conversation here.

      • I have no idea what happened but I think you are more worried about it than you should be. <3

        • A Guest

          Thanks, Derek, it’s simply a reflection of comments made to me and how much I care and respect the people who made them. That’s all – no more, no less. Whether online or RL, community – family and friends – are all that we have that has true value. It’s one of the things that I believe and feel strongly about, always have.

          It comes from the fact that I have been surrounded by an extraordinary (freakish, even) number of deaths of people close to me, and have had to deal with a substantial number of personal near misses. From a young age, I always promised myself that I would forget their importance and never forget to let them know.

          That’s all – no more, no less. <3 right back at you!

          • Sorry for those you have lost, very much.

            As far as the commenters here, many people who still post here on a regular basis have made negative comments both to and about me. It’s annoying more than anything.

            Hope you feel better!

      • Jimmy3

        Welcome!

      • Observer

        Come back, Cars! You’re making me do this:

        🙁

        You don’t want that on your conscience, do you? <3

        • A Guest

          Good trick, but you can’t fool me.
          (refresh) And please, don’t rotate it upside down just to try to fool me again!

      • Verve

        I don’t all the background here, so I’ll just say that I and the Monkey Horde will miss. All the best to you, and perhaps someday you’ll come back. Until then, monkey hugs…
        (edit- refresh for pic)
        http://www.lilmsglitter.com/images1/MonkeyHugs-LMG1.gif

      • grundoon

        Hi, Cars A Guest!

        “Grundoon, get a proper functioning g*damn avatar”
        Ahem. Pot … kettle …

        I suppose could set my comment history to private if I wanted to keep from being followed. But what would be the point? My comments would still show up in Hearsay. If I wanted to keep my thoughts private, I would do better not to post on a busy public forum. The weirdness with my history and whatnot is just kind of a side effect of a long-running feud between my browser and Disqus.

        I hope you’ll soon be in high spirits again and coming back to stay.

    • Ardent

      Wow! What a terrific gift! The late PM of Canada, Pierre Trudeau had one of those in silver. Rare, and fantastic. I’m blown away!

      • A Guest

        It a virtual gift, Ardent. I closed my Disqus account and that was avatar. That’s why, as a joke, I gave it to Tony.

        But if I really did have one and unloaded it, it would be easy enough to give to him. It would be pleasure and well deserved. Sorry about the confusion I caused. (I seem to be good at that lately!)

        • DeElizabethan

          No problem with confusion, just keep giving, gives us something to play or think with.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Can you imagine Tony O, his cats, his dog, his companion all fitting in that?

          It makes me smile

        • Ardent

          Oh. Well the thought was fantastic!

        • thetastic

          You could let Tony keep the car and just make your new screen name I haz no cars. Since you’re not allowed to go. Even lurkers like me love you.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Cars! Awww shucks, now I’ve got something in my eye…..

    • Observer

      You need to do what you need to do, all of our pleading aside. But please promise to stop by and toot your horn every once in awhile and let us know how you are, okay? I am one of the many who will miss your interesting and thoughtful posts.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    “Too many candy bars spoil the silhouette, quite in addition to the pancreas.”

    Given his svelte silhouette, El Wretch must have known a thing or three about candy bars.
    By his mid-forties, he must have weighed over 200 lbs. and he improved from there on.

    Help his ads here – thin ’em down so that CL’s pancreas survives.

    Four-day list (15 minutes):
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    or
    Today’s list:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-114#post-2486599

    Here’s a ruined St. Pancras:

    • aegerprimo

      I am sure El Wretch weighed WAY over 200 lbs by his mid-40’s. His BMI I am sure was over 30 (from just viewing his photos), which would put him at least 230.

      ETA: I flagged all the CL ads earlier today.

  • The one thing that I look forward to every morning when I wake up is the new story at the Bunker. It has become a daily part of my life since it’s inception. I know you must have poured blood, sweat, and tears into this website Tony and I want you to know that you and your accomplishments are appreciated. Thank you!

    Tony, you spontaneously became a part of my life that fateful day in May of 2012 when we crossed paths on Twitter. Since you told my story you’ve given me a freedom that I never thought I’d be able to experience. Through the enormous amount of content that you bring to this website, you’ve helped me gain an understanding of everything that I’ve been through that has allowed me to shed my past and grown as a person despite everything that Scientolgy and it’s members have put me through.

    The Bunkerites have contributed to that understanding, immensely, as well as giving me confidence in myself and helping me to feel comfortable in my own skin. This is a wonderful community that has formed here and i daresay it is unmatched by any other forum on the web.

    • DeElizabethan

      ^^^^^ This^^^

    • aegerprimo

      Yes, unmatched by any other forum on the web.

    • Ambassador Sarek: As I recall, I opposed your enlistment in Starfleet. It is possible that judgment was incorrect. Your associates are people of good character.

      Spock: They are my friends.

      • I just watched that movie the other day. I love Star Trek.

        • Ardent

          Me too! Best TV show ever, IMHO.

          • Captain Howdy

            One of ’em. fer sure.

    • Missionary Kid

      Derek, your growth, as I’ve seen here on the Bunker, has been awesome. Thanks go to our proprietor for all his hard work, as well as all of the other Bunkaroos who’ve lent their support to your efforts to learn and grow.

      Your hard work has paid off. Some day, I hope to meet you in person. You’re already a winner, and I can honestly say that you’ve shed all your imaginary thetans to become a real human being, which is much better than living on planet LRH.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I was once lucky to read a first draft of some writing you were doing.
      Are you continuing that project.

      I am glad you have found your extended family, and you are healing from abuse you endured.

    • aegerprimo

      Derek, you are amazing.

      • Aww Aeger you are so sweet thank you!

      • aquaclara

        You earned more than a few friends in the process, Derek. 🙂
        Cheering for you all the way.

    • It’s the contributions such as yours which tell us, directly, what is it actually like which – for want of better words – makes this real. Thanks for those.

      Those are the kind of expression that the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology wanted stopped when the tried to rmgroup a.r.s. when they sued netcom and when they raided Dennis Erlich.

      • Being an ex-Scientologist has taught me the true meaning of “strength in numbers”.

    • Verve

      Yep, the Bunker is my first stop every morning.
      Come for the news, and stay for the people (well, their comments).
      Until I came here, I thought $ci was just a bunch of whack-a-doodles. Then I learned about all the atrocities. Then I read books and got to virtually meet the authors, and sometimes even chat with them. Yeah, this place rocks. There is only one other place that compares to the Bunker, but it is a much less serious site.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyigdRxPOR4 Refresh and turn up volume. Come on it’s The Bumker’s birthday!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Not one!

  • richelieu jr

    AUSTRALIA! I knew it!

    Wasn’t there a “Melburnian Confederation”? I think they ran the Venusian Train Conductor’s Union, and Mars’ Consolidated Glycol and Alcohol and “Christ Ahoy!” 3D Movies and Roofies, ltd.

    • Captain Howdy

      You are correct, sir!
      ….

      • aegerprimo

        I wonder if one of the Bunkerites will use this graphic as their avatar…..

      • richelieu jr

        Those…. BASTARDS!!!!

  • richelieu jr

    “Can any of our antipodean readers figure out how big of a check Mr. Ripley had to pay to make “Continental Emerald Humanitarian””

    I’ll pay you! I’ll pay you!
    said the Little Green Ozzie
    I’ll pay you! I’ll pay you, that’s it!

  • Mike Leopold

    Minty Alexander has been on “Tech lines” for ages,
    She grew up in Mineola, NY;
    Her entire family and her husband’s family are Scientologists.
    She is the truest of true believers in the Tech,
    and her lifes’ investment rests in her belief it’s workability.

    I do not know to what extent she has knowledge of the criminal aspects of Scientology.
    If she were to be presented with, say, Debbie Cooks testimony,
    I’m certain her response would be to look for Debbie’s overts.

    Beautiful, bright, and a tragedy of epic proportions

    • Anonymous

      Based on where she works and is housed, it is a safe bet that she knows virtually nothing of the atrocities of Scientology leadership…and most likely has been fed every outrageous shore story imaginable to cover up the hallway chatter or in-session whispers to which she may have been exposed.

      • aegerprimo

        I can’t even begin to imagine how sad her life is. Our very own Karen de la Carriere was a Class XII auditor at Flag… similar longevity and years, years of experience and training in the Co$. If you have even viewed a small selection of Karen’s videos, you know the experiences she has had. I feel Minty knows what is up… why she has not left yet (or blown), that is a whole other story.

        • Anonymous

          I liked Minty…she was always a kind person (at least in my vicinity) and most everyone that I knew had good things to say about her. I think she thinks she is doing good by being an auditor. Again IMHO, most Scientologists are NOT in on the Scientology scam…at least not knowingly. They are victims of the scam.

          Over time as the public membership and staff shrink to the last few adherents, it is harder not to think of those folks remaining as collaborators…but I want them to be free of the malevolent effects of Scientology more than I want anything else.

          There are however a few folks on the senior leadership team who ARE in on the scam and they deserve only one thing…justice.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Many people who get involved in scientology and good, king , generous people. They want to others, and are often selfless in their actions before entering into $cientology

            The criminal enterprise preys on that.

            • aegerprimo

              Yes, that is the main reason why I was attracted to $cientology and joined the Sea Org – I wanted to help people. I agreed with what the Co$ told me that if all people improved and got better, the world would be a better place to live for everyone. I thought it was right to improve OTHER PEOPLE before myself. Does that make sense? Yes, the Co$ preys on that.

            • Cosmo Pidgeon

              It makes perfect sense and shows a love of life and faith in humanity. Do not let any one steal that from you.

            • aegerprimo

              They haven’t. I am a surgical nurse now, and help people every day. The smile I have on my face when I arrive at the hospital and when I leave is genuine. I love this career. The ache I feel in my feet, knees, and lower back, those are genuine as well, BUT I can tolerate it because I am really helping people. I am NOT “breaking my back” (metaphorically speaking) and working long hard hours for a CULT, fake help that seemingly helps people but really ruins their lives.
              Thanx for letting me vent.

            • Cosmo Pidgeon

              Any time Aegerprimo.

            • Eclipse-girl

              AP, it makes perfect sense. Those who have escaped the clutches of SO and the cult,on the whole , are nice, kind , generous, intelligent people who wanted to improve the world. I think that is why this cult, more than others gets to ME. I could been a victim if I was preyed on at the right time.

            • Barbara Angel

              Ditto: “make the world a better place” is a good hook. Unfortunately it is just a ‘bait and switch’ technique, which plays on peoples better nature and by the time they realise it, its almost to late. Blame it on the Kool-Aid, but I believe people are basically good, in $camology this makes them ripe for the picking.

        • Ardent

          Gotta love and admire Karen! (If you read this, here’s a BIG hug from an incredibly handsome fella, who thinks you rule!)

        • Anonymous

          “…why she has not left yet…”

          Age, family ties, no where else to go.

        • Captain Howdy

          My sister has been in almost 40 years. Unfreakingbelievable.

          • aquaclara

            Almost forty years. This is heart-breaking, Howdy. Do you know where she is?

            • Captain Howdy

              Last I read she was supposed to be DSA OSA NYC. That was in 2010. Who knows now.

            • aquaclara

              It’s been about that long since I’ve been watching this damn cult. 1976 was the first time I saw a family member outside The Fort Harrison, trying to find a way to get their child out. To no avail. No police could help. No judge. No concierge at the hotel. No reporter.

              I am so sorry for your long wait. I’ve just been a bystander. You have lived this shit.

              Let’s root for 2015 to be the year the tent on this damn circus finally comes down, ok?
              You could use a sister again.

            • Captain Howdy

              “You could use a sister again”

              Not to mention my nieces and nephews that I hardly know. A rent free basement apartment in a nice house would go nice for their uncle right about now. : )

            • DodoTheLaser

              Is her name Jennifer?

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes.

            • DodoTheLaser
    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Sorry, but I hear “Minty Alexander” and I think of a popular cocktail from the 1930s. Didn’t LRH knock back a couple of Minty Alexanders every evening around 5ish?

      • jeff

        I think those were Brandy Alexanders. Minty Alexander sounds like the name of a gay bar, you know like Alex In Wonderland (a real establisment in 70s NYC).

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Believe me, I know about Brandy Alexanders. And the Widow’s Kiss cocktail. And even Scotch Mist. I just think Minty Alexander should join the ranks.

      • Mike Leopold

        Her maiden name Aminta Moscoso was changed when she married Rick Alexander.
        Her daughter was International Justice Chief, as I recall, though I’m not positive about that.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Aminta Moscoso???

          Villain. Bond Villain.

          • Mike Leopold

            I knew them well at Saint Hill. An attractive, intelligent couple, they are “lifers” with their children and all family in the cult.

  • “Words of wisdom” — ROFL! In a Scientology advertisement, no less.

    Sweet Baby Jesus this insane lunacy is amusing!

    It’s 15:00, I’m only just now enjoying Sunday Funnies. 🙂 Gods, what amusing lunacy.

    • aegerprimo

      Never too late to enjoy the Sunday Funnies!

  • Innoculated

    Let me join you, Dam. Brief comments on above funnies: Valley encore event, the guest speakers–looks like Mrs. Boyer dumped the kids on her mother and dragged Mr. Boyer out of his lounger and football game. The young orger or staff, whatever, in skinny tie, needs someone to feed him. Halloween flyer: what is it with the parties and games? That pumpkin is truly scary, has its TR’s in so I’m walking the other way. Tony, there is something about Mary in L.A. All I can say is: well, I’ll be blinkered and bedamned! This sentence catches the delirium perfectly: “I often wonder why people aren’t looking at life as something to overcome, to conquer, but that’s because I forget, I have the answers”. And in the capital of Scotland, well, it’s obvious.

    • Innoculated

      Edit to say: well, it’s still obvious.

  • Jeb Burton

    I read you everyday, rarely comment. Hope someday you make a difference here in Clearwater. Just heard Leah Remini was hanging out with Jennifer Lopez and got rear ended. Didnt Lopez have something to do with the cult?

    • Innoculated

      She’s a friend of someone who is no longer a friend of Scientology.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Lopez’s father is still in.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I miss you My LOVE!
      😉

    • Vaquera

      Her father, David Lopez, has been a $cio for over 20 years.

  • richelieu jr

    Jamie’s Record is very good,a s well; I tend to resist spoken-word stuff (even comedy records these days) because I find they don’t wear well- The replay value is reduced. But in my iPhone on Shuffle, every time one comes up between songs I feel a little thrill of, ‘Oh, yeah- This one!’

    I really recommend it. I can’t imagine ho much fun he must be to see live.

  • Look at the “artist rendition” of the New York Org — it’s all aglow and lighted and everything so magical. 🙂

    Truth is that these loons can’t pay the electric bill every month as it is, even without the glow.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Dude, that’s the SP building at Flag. But, your point is well taken in any case.

    • Missionary Kid

      That picture used to be the result of a dawn or dusk shot with a double exposure at night to get the windows lit up. Now, it could be photoshopped.

  • Jeb Burton

    Congratulations Tony. You have a great site. I read everyday but rarely comment. Heard J lo and Leah were rear ended by a drunk driver, but they are OK. Didn’t Lopez have something to do with the cult?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      jeb………………mirror………..but still.

    • Tony Ortega

      Thanks for being a part of the Bunker, Jeb. J-Lo is not a Scientologist, but her father is. The most important thing about Jennifer Lopez and Scientology is that it was her displeasure with where she was seated at Tom and Katie’s 2006 wedding that led to her friend Leah Remini making some complaints, which then escalated as Leah also started asking why David Miscavige was there without his wife. That night of squabbling began Leah’s long road to leaving Scientology seven years later — and now, she hangs with her best friend J-Lo a lot.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        And there it is– a cogent explanation that involves major celebrities and yet remains simply factual. You know– journalistic.

    • aegerprimo

      You may want to start reading some of the mainstream press this year about Leah, and there is some about her relationship to J-Lo. I have most listed in my thread Co$ Bad Press Collection – 2014

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?34807-Co-Bad-Press-Collection-2014&p=909297&viewfull=1#post909297

  • As far as that NYT article. Ew. All it is are the musings of a clearly sheltered man, who has been fortunate not to get sucked in by any of the hundreds or thousands of cults that still exist out there. One of the newer ones I heard of is Ambit Energy. A pyramid scheme taking advantage of the deregulation of electric utilities. Great response Tony.

  • Tom Cruisolta

    Not trying to diss but the valley recap photos are of geriatrics and loserish looking folk. It does not screen “join me”.

    • Jimmy3

      Calling them old losers is an interesting way of not dissing them.

  • Mark

    Many happy returns, Tony 🙂

    • Eclipse-girl

      I agree Tony deserves congrats. But in this rare instance I do not want to see this anniversary celebrated because it would mean the criminal enterprise is still existent. We all want it to fall.

      I would prefer a reunion, after the fall.

      • Mark

        I’m sure Tony will go on to fresh fields and journalistic pastures new after Miscavige is history—and we’ll keep on reading him 🙂

        • Eclipse-girl

          I know I will.

      • DeElizabethan

        Everyday is a Gift!

    • Baby

      pretty..

    • A Guest

      That is such an elegant and beautiful “font”! Simply gorgeous.

    • Sherbet

      I glanced at that “2” and first thought, “Oh, another tribute to Derek Jeter.”

  • Tony, look at it this way. 999,999,998 more years to go and you can win your Super Extra Double Patinum Body Thetan-Erasing Humanitarian award.

  • Illinoisian

    I’ve been reading the Bunker for eighteen months. Even on the busiest days, I simply *must* check in and there have been days when I’ve been almost glued to the screen. I have never experienced anything like this in my life: a story (convoluted/twisted/often hard to believe) covered daily with developments unfolding nearly as they happen and sometimes pretty much in ‘real time’– real stuff, clear and reliable. And the comments blooming on the screen showing reactions (mild and heated and all degrees in between), supplying elements of ‘backstory,’ supplying enlightening details and personal stories, and silliness (in words and images) and coming from all over the world. It is astounding. Thank you, Tony. Thank you to everyone of you people — creative and funny and strong of mind — who ‘live’ here, as commenters or lurkers. Happy 2nd Anniversary to the Bunker. Next year at this time I hope that lots of families have been reunited and that we are making guesses as to how many hundreds (not thousands) of members are still in.

    • Verve

      Well said. Been around about as long as you, and my experience has been basically the same.

    • thetastic

      This is what my happy anniversary post would say, almost word to word. I’ve been reading also for at least a year and a half, I just generally don’t post since I’m an evening reader and have missed most of the fun. Thank you to Tony for an unbelievable refuge and resource, and thanks to the bunkerites for all that you do for those suffering in this cult, and emerging from it.

  • Sydjazz

    Watching kool aid tv. Melbourne local version. Ugh i feel sick.

  • jeff

    Congrats on two years. Looking forward to the day that this blog is no longer needed.

    • Captain Howdy

      no longer needed

      NOOOoooooo!

      http://youtu.be/mTLqp-KKuo4

      • Sherbet

        If that happens, I may have to get a life.

        • Captain Howdy

          I won’t worry. If I had to guess, it’s going to be at least another 5 years, if not double that.

          • jeff

            Although you’re probably right, I’m the optimistic sort. I think it will be within two.

            • Captain Howdy

              I hope you’re right, but as Pops was so fond of saying “wish in one hand..shit in the other..see which one gets filled first”

            • Jimmy3

              There will be Scientologists and “philosophers” preaching Scientology’s workability long after the Church of Scientology falls. So there will still be blogs that need J&D and trolls long after the Church of Scientology falls. Plus, the Church isn’t going to collapse and simply vanish, just here one day, gone the next. Think of all the evidence, information and stories that will be pulled from the rubble. Tony could run this blog for decades just on the aftermath.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Are you intimating that Sherb’s only got 5 years left? 😉

            • jeff

              *rim shot” from the buttplug.

            • Jimmy3

              Buttplugs typically shoot for the rim.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I see what you did there. Naughty boy.

  • outraged

    definitely wish there was no need for this blog. One day DM will be in jail and ScientoLIEogy will be empty.
    fyi fwiw: I am taking a break. I feel uncomfortable posting since Media Lush left. ML said I could post what he said to me about what happened here, if anyone is interested.

    • outraged

      If you read my blog you’ll see that I go out of my way to big-up Tony and his blog and always link to it… I do the same on twitter. A year ago he sent me a private email apologising for being a bit rude and OTT in his responses to me (I would have rather he he made the comment in the blog comments so other people knew)…. I have no idea why he gets so het up with me… I think he might be embarrassed with his last response as he clearly didn’t see the pic that came with my comment… that aside I was genuinely stunned to see how annoyed he was and I think he was pretty nasty with his reply. Trolls and other commentators I can handle but when the sainted proprietor of one of favourite sites clearly goes out of his way to bitch about me… well, I decided to leave as I found myself double checking whether my next post would get his snark treatment and being forced to think like this made me realise it wasn’t really worth it.

      Also a week or so ago I posted a link of a relatively unique story and another commentator made a joke that “I had scooped Tony”… He was pretty quick to reply to him and was obviously annoyed – remember, this was not me who made the comment but it did show his sensibility and lack of a sense of humour when it comes to my posting. What I find remarkable is he goes out of his way to emphasise the seriousness of his journalism on the subject and subsequent frustration and the ‘made up’ or lack of research crap put out by the tabloid media and somehow equates my posts on his blog as reinforcing that narrative when I clearly don’t. I also make a point of not posting the lighter/tabloid side of scientology until a good 6 hours have passed, especially if it’s a serious post [Sunday Funnies excluded]; just good manners IMO. John P posted the Juliette Lewis link within the first 15 minutes of one of the Lawyer posts… so, I refer back to my having to double check about posting.

      I feel it’s personal but have no idea why.

      These are my best guesses, no idea.

      Lush

      PS – you’re more than welcome to share my thoughts with others on the Bunker and feel free to post the whole thing if you want

      Peace

      • aegerprimo

        scientology BOLLOCKS
        nuff said

      • Captain Howdy

        And you’re reposting this why?

      • aquaclara

        Wish he’d come back….

        • Jimmy3

          I do, too. But I also wish this unnecessary piece of drama wasn’t posted on such a celebratory article. It’s sorta like saying, “Oh? 2 year anniversary? Congrats… I won’t be coming to the party, but I’ll send someone by later to take an upper decker in one of the bathrooms.”

          • Captain Howdy

            Srsly, why did he get poor Outraged to do his dirty work? That’s not cool.

            • Jimmy3

              Nope. Not cool. And if I were outraged, I’d be enraged.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Miss you lush ! But you’re on my bookmarks. Miss our late night chats. Hopefully, things will right themselves.

      • Lurkness

        Lush should come back and outraged too.

      • AintMizBahavin

        ok im lost exactly what is going on? and why?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          OT drama. And I don’t mean Operating Thetans performing Guys and Dolls.

        • Lurkness

          Hurt feelings over some gossip blog postings and related commentary. ML says he is taking a break from posting. Hopefully back soon so I get my Michael K fix.

    • Eileen

      Why does MLs decision not to post affect your decision about posting? From my observation Tony gets irritable whenever celebutard news pieces are posted (unless they are newsworthy). So, ML gets snarked at, he is a big boy, I’m sure he can take it.

      • outraged

        I cannot take being snarked at. I am NOT a big boy. I like posting celebutard news, as you call it. Obviously that is not accepted here without snarking. I am too thin skinned for this.

        • grundoon

          “outraged” said, “I cannot take being snarked at. I am NOT a big boy. I like posting
          celebutard news, as you call it. Obviously that is not accepted here
          without snarking. I am too thin skinned for this.”

          Channeling? Sockpuppet? or forgot to quote?

  • Elar Aitch

    Isn’t the theme for second anniversaries internet memes?

    • carpe canem

      Wake me up when you detect large quantities of wine.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I’ve been out all day (again) and am late to the party. I started reading and lurking just before the first live blogging of the Writers of the Future, then joined in on the (mostly) J&D fun that night. Hope I am around here to see the whole sorry enterprise that is Scientology come crashing down.

    (Oh, and I will be following this with a couple of hopefully funny items drawn from Today’s Funnies.)

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Don’t know if anyone else has already commented on Fearless Leader’s hilariously unfortunate turn of phrase in his fawning introduction to Jock MacDonald. “Jock, your support is awesome,” are words I haven’t heard outside the locker room at Middle School, following PE class…

    • Observer

      Well, now I’ve got a mental image of LRH saying “What’s the matter with you, jock?”

    • Robert Eckert

      No offense to Scots, but recorded history begins around 3000 BC, and it is not until the 1st century AD that we get even the slightest mention that Caledonia existed at all.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yes, but were you there?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        That’s what the Psychs want you to believe.

    • carpe canem

      At least he didn’t call Jock a strapping lad.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Had to fix this one:

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      I thought it said They got my c**t…..you know maybe different colloquialisms in different country’s.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Coat.

        A Cont is a Scientology territory, don’t you know.

      • carpe canem

        No need to go abroad. There are many quaint and charming regionalisms in our own language. Social milieu, for example, is one of the many factors that can influence the way we express ourselves. The construction worker’s colorful idioms may shock us, but we mustn’t expect these rugged men to sound like the dainty debutantes of our southern states or the ivory-tower co-eds of our nation’s sororities!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dngOH9G4UPw

    • grundoon

      The goon on the left… is his left hand in Michael’s pocket?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I think so. And the one on the right is propping him up.

  • giggler

    Thank you all for this blog, it’s become a daily treat for me, a great community

  • valshifter

    The Russians need to keep up their stand against scientology and not give way, once they give them a hand scientologist will take a foot and more… much more, whole lives will be destroyed. In a country where corruption and double dealing are the order of the day, scientology would run rampant, it takes one to know one, and the Ruskies know it, they are dealing with a crook, anything scientology is corruption to the core, opening the door to scientology is like welcoming the Mafia into your country. DO NOT LET THEM IN.

  • carpe canem

    Lights! Cameras! Confetti! Applause! Welcome fellow Bunkerites In Good Standing. Thank you for allowing this mild-mannered, bullet-headed bull terrier into your midst. I promise not to annoy the cats. Further. If I can help it. Sometimes shit just happens. And cats were pretty much born annoyed, so it never takes much to send them over the edge.

    Over the course of two short years, the UB Org has become the idealest Org on this or any other planet! Welcome to the era of the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Org With Nuts and Sprinkles and a Fucking Cherry On Top! Glad to see so many of you getting into the spirit of our Mary Poppins-themed party! I trust everybody got their complimentary spoonful of sugar? Great! (Any non-freeloaders out there can voluntarily donate $250 for your sugar, or not, it’s up to you, but we will be taking names.) It was two years ago today, Captain Tony taught the band to play! He realized that our existing format had become nothing more than an encumberment . It also became nothing more than an impediment. Exactly two years ago, when the time was right, TO switched from the old format to this new format. This new format was, at the time, beyond any format any of us had ever imagined. Ever. But we’ve been here for two whole years, as of today, so everybody really ought to be able to imagine it by now. Come on, people. Work with me. If you still can’t imagine it, just stick around till after the dog and the pony have left the building, I’ll hook you guys up with “Jim Morrison,” who will sell you some of his special “High-acin,” unconditionally guaranteed to make you way more imaginative — often in unimaginable ways, so don’t forget to sign all the waivers. If “Jim” invites you to Hollywood Boulevard for a walk on the wild side, well, that probably doesn’t mean what you think it does. I know I was sure surprised! (Excuse me sec, my beer and burrito breakfast is ready to go exterior from my body. BRB.)

    Where was I? Oh yeah… we discarded the old format so that we could continue our work in this format, outside the confines of the old format, but not exactly unconfined because trust me this format has confines of its own. (Oh whups! Excuse me! Totally experiencing the effects of that secondary burrito. Sorry guys. BRB.)

    Right… A format can either be an identifying format or an unidentifying format, and that is all I’m willing to say on that subject of formats until you guys: A) pay me to tell you, and 2) until you can HANDLE THE TRUTH without catching pneumonia and shit and dying. (Seriously guys: no more dying. It’s getting increasingly awkward for us. Just knock it right the fuck off. You do not want to make me come out there to Texas!) The old format still exists, but it no longer served our purposes. The decision to switch formats was made at complete cause by TO, after a series on intense fireside discussions with Frank the Rabbit from Donnie Darko, so don’t even try to understand it. There may have been a pipe involved. Anyway, whatever. This is our new format. ‘Nuff said. For now. Later, there will be more. It will be the same as this but we expect you buy it anyway. Lots of it. Unless you don’t want to save the planet, in which case go fuck yourself. When your Mom calls and asks you why you posted a high-def, slo-mo video on YouTube, Facebook, and Myspace of you fucking yourself, shot from an angle that doesn’t do a person of your age any favors, don’t come crying to us. We won’t know who took it, or how it was taken, or how it got online. We’re not just a website, we’re a religion and religions don’t stalk, harass, and humiliate people. Well, OK, maybe some do. But WE don’t do shit like that, so the video cannot have been shot, enhanced, edited, and splashed all over the internet by us, because we’re a religion. Do I really have to explain this again? No seriously, what word do you not understand? (The “I Love Lucy” laugh track wasn’t us either.)

    Moving along. As we gather willingly (having been neither coerced, threatened, nor blackmailed) to celebrate this anniversary, what better time to go up in status? I know I said the same thing at last week’s shindig, but now this is really the best time. Why now? Because now we are really helping people, and I don’t mean just at car accidents. Now, at last, we are truly able to accomplish all our goals, fulfill our destiny as Bunkerites, and let Bunkertech illuminate the darkness! Totally! Almost! Now is the time to invest in yourselves by investing in us. Join your friends on stage! Lift your hands in the air! Wave’em like you just don’t care! But you do care. You care so very, very much. Do not miss out on this special opportunity. Your eyes are getting heavy. You are handing me your wallet.

    Now is the time, so do your part. Bunkercat 1 and Bunkercat 2 have both renewed their commitment to the Bunker. They have both gone up in status to Patron Meowtorious and the wins have been coming non-stop. That pile of half-mice on the back porch just keeps growing, both cats have completely overcome their perceived “addiction” to furniture-shredding, and just this morning, we received a call from the vet canceling their appointment! What will your wins be? Go up one level and the cats will let you rub their soft furry bellies! Go up two levels and they’ll let you hand feed them bonito flakes while you’re rubbing their bellies! What? You say that shit is expensive? Maintaining a bunker requires many things. Mostly it requires money. It requires your money. Do your part and reap the rewards. Remember: you have to stand tall to reach the dog biscuits. Let’s stand tall together!

    So, everybody, grab a handful of Scientology Party Mix (Antacids, Ruffies, and Cymbalta), toss back a few VAV-oom! energy drinks ( now with even more Viagra and Vistaril), and let’s kick off Year Three in the Bunker! Let’s join together to make it a year of exponential growth! Growth in membership. In snark. IN INCOME!!!!

    With apologies to COB’s speech writers. I hope they get out soon.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkIrwdpAW7s

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      In the two years that I have been attending UB events I have to say that this event has been the MOST Uptone and Enabling of all events. It’s the eventest event I have ever attended, and not just because the Mary Poppins theme meant I could finally use my old chimney sweep costume from a previous life. If EVERYONE would just join together and see what those cats are capable of when they have been properly fed, bathed, and housed, then the world would be set back on the path to true saneness.

      Oh! And… HAIL LRH and COB! KSW! It’s just good chicken!

      • carpe canem

        Have you seen this? Not perfect, but pretty good.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWSlPYV_U7w

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          You bet I’ve seen it…!

      • carpe canem

        Cats can be properly bathed? That’s a euphemism for death, right? buy the farm, kick the bucket, bite the dust, give up the ghost, shuffle off this mortal coil, bathe the cat…

      • carpe canem

        also… you forgot the most important COS acronym: WTF

    • Captain Howdy

      I’ll have whatever you’re having.

      • carpe canem

        Lol. Two words: Blue Velvet
        😉

        • Captain Howdy

          The movie or the drug?

          • carpe canem

            The drug in the movie… whatever the stuff is that Frank inhales. It seems pretty potent.

            Actually… I’m not really a “tank and face mask” kind of gal. I would be that kind of gal if someone invented ice cream gas, but for now my delivery system is just a plain old spoon, and my drug of choice comes out of a card board container in the freezer. Not very David Lynchian.

            I don’t know exactly what this stuff is, chemistry was never my thing. I only know it by its street name: ben and jerry’s hazed and confused. Dude. It’s awesome.

            • Jimmy3

              I tried to quit all that stuff, but then they started selling Girl Scout Cookie ice cream. You don’t even have to put in the effort of crumbling Thin Mints into your ice cream anymore. They do it for you. That’s how Diabetes won America.

            • carpe canem

              There there, Jimmy. Admitting you have a problem is the first step. It’ll be OK. I know a great rehab place.

            • Jimmy3

              But I can’t afford to buy very many Wonka Bars. I’ll never get a ticket to that place.

            • carpe canem

              Wonka? That charlatan? His “ironic death” object lessons lack all subtlety. I’ll take Dante over Dahl any day. (Not true, just liked the alliteration.) And anyway, I was thinking of a completely different place. Entirely secular, something like a 70% success rate. Really it’s more like a health spa than a detox facility. You’ll especially love the sauna.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Haagen Dazs Deep Chocolate Peanut Butter. Not available all the time. A good thing, or I’d be as big as LRH.

            • carpe canem

              11:10, Crap. The corner convenience store just closed. I’ve never noticed HDDCPB there, but I know they do have chocolate, And I have peanut butter. I’m no MacGyver, but I could have made it work.

            • Baby

              Hey doggie.. love your avi.. You’re a trip..

            • carpe canem

              Thanks! You’re pretty cute too. Those tiny little noses you guys have always crack me up. Say, you’ve got a little something on you chin. Looks like Cheerios. They’re in your hair, on your bib, all over your little tray…. Here, let me take care of that for you.

            • Baby

              OOOOOOh cheerios.. yep..Tanks

            • Captain Howdy

              Nitrous Oxide. Have we met before? A simple yes or no will suffice.

            • carpe canem

              no

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    That Scientology TV advert from Oz needed a snappier title:

    • She is probably talking about stealing VB from the bottle o 🙂

  • Edward Whalley

    oh, Laffy, is there any beginning to your regard for women?

  • Captain Howdy

    Run, Hong Kongers, Run!

    Better a live chicken than a dead duck

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    … (refresh) …

    • AintMizBahavin

      i can help rid them of those billions

    • Sydjazz

      Love the stack of money lol

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hey! Who doesn’t love a stack of money?

  • AintMizBahavin

    YELLING CONGRATULATIONS TO YA TONY AND THE BUNKERITES most of you know why i love this site from the bottom of my heart and as long as the bunker is here i will be right here with each and everyone of you!!!!!!!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Give the room some warning…!

      • Qbird

        gotta laugh! 3 : D

    • Baby

      Girl.. I knew you would show up! The day is complete ; )

  • Qbird

    To cool cats ~ a Sunday funny… gotta love that ‘Sort by Best’.

    • carpe canem

      yes please

  • edge

    Congratulations to Tony, the tipsters and all the Bunkerites for making this one of the best sites on the interweb! So they called out everyone in the Greater LA area, the metropolis with the highest concentration of Scientologists in the world, and about 50 people showed up? And as Mike Rinder pointed out, they are only half-way there. Only 8 million to go!

  • scnethics

    Congrats Tony! And thanks for everything!

  • Verve

    Re: Minty Alexander
    87,000 hours. That’s 3,625 full 24-hour days, or nearly 10 years, going non-stop. Say 8 full hours a day, that is 30 years of doing nothing but that. So she spent 34 years running Ls, basically every day; what a freaking boring life!! At this point you would think she could make ashtrays levitate just by glaring at them. Oh, you can’t? Huh.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Happy Second Birthday, Bunkerites! Congrats, Tony! 🙂

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Last one tonight. I am getting loopy. And I am a little obsessed with the critter with the bullhorn heralding “SPECIAL IDEAL ORG ANNOUNCEMENT!” Don’t know where this one came from:

  • Pierrot

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  • EnthralledObserver

    I have a OT question… just wondering if Davey Makemerich has reportedly acted violently or with violence to any Sea Org member since being outed of TV/internet for this behavior? ie. Does he still hit his underlings, or did the accusations curb his violent behavior?

  • Simi Valley

    “Cause over life” was supposedly the non-confidential “end phenomenon” of Solo NOTs. Now, somebody who completed the “Cause Resurgence Rundown” (a/k/a running around a pole) is claiming to be “cause over life” … I guess there aren’t enough customers for Solo NOTs so it got reallocated to some other “Bridge” thing.

    • DodoTheLaser

      That, plus it sounds cool and so self-reaffirming. Makes Ethics Officers happy too.

  • DodoTheLaser
  • doggywoggy

    Congratulations, and thanks, Tony Ortega! Happy Bunker birthday!

  • mook

    Happy Anniversary, Underground Bunker!

    Man, Stacy Francis must really need the crack money… Oops I mean the paycheck

  • Elli Fordyce

    First I’ve seen of Minty Alexander since living in her and husband Rick’s apartment in 1975-6 before I returned to Celebrity Center (then CCLA) for Class 0. Been reminded of her every day since getting a tiny dog 10 years ago named Mindy and, wanting to change her name, decided on Minty after her perkiness, enthusiasm and affinity. Minty Alexander was also supportive, something my dog even attempts when the chips are down. I’ve asked around about her in the past year but have gotten very little info back except that she’d been in the S.O. a long time and apparently doing well as of 8 years ago.