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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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PR Director of Scientology’s Las Vegas Celebrity Center Arrested in Plot to Assassinate a Cop

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NOW POSTED BELOW: We have the 20-page police report detailing what Brutsche and Newman told police during the undercover investigation of their plan to kidnap and kill a police officer. AND FINALLY — A STATEMENT FROM SCIENTOLOGY

ALSO: Devon Newman was once a tenant living in the home of Karen de la Carriere, former wife of the president of the Church of Scientology! See our update, below.

Devon Campbell Newman, 67, became the public relations director of Scientology’s “Celebrity Center” in Las Vegas, Nevada early in 2010 and has remained in that position to the present day — that’s according to her own LinkedIn profile as well as numerous online records of her activities as a Scientologist.

This week, she became known for something else. As a result of a police investigation that began in April, on Tuesday Newman and a six-time felon and registered sex offender named David Allen Brutsche, 42, were arrested for planning what police are calling a bizarre plot to kidnap and kill a random local police officer in a macabre publicity stunt to promote their “sovereign citizen” views.

The arrest and its strange details quickly made news yesterday, but Newman’s position with Scientology wasn’t mentioned. Then, last night, we were tipped by Las Vegas television journalist Nathan Baca about Newman’s role in the church. He plans to have a full report later today. But for now, we have some preliminary information about Newman’s Scientology career, and the trouble she currently finds herself in.

Newman gave a jailhouse interview to Baca’s 8 News NOW colleague, Caroline Bleakley, before they were aware of her involvement in Scientology. Bleakley’s story gives some background on the cop-killing plot…

According to the arrest report, the two belong to a “sovereign citizen movement” and don’t follow U.S. laws. Members of Metro’s Counter-Terrorism Section had been conducting an undercover operation of Brutsche and Newman since April.

Both had expressed a deep-seated hatred for law enforcement officers and planned to kidnap a police officer from a traffic stop, according to the report. They planned to place the officer in a makeshift jail and try the officer in a sovereign court of law for treason and civil rights violations. The officer would be convicted and then executed.

 
Newman, however, told Bleakley that she was not involved in a plot to kill a cop, and that although Brutsche had discussed kidnapping a police officer, she didn’t think he was serious.

“I am upset, because if this can happen to me, it can happen to anyone. I have felt for a while now the police are out of control. That they are stopping people and searching them with no probable cause,” Newman said.

She also denied involvement in the sovereign citizens movement. However, she did say she agreed with people that believe in restrictions on the government outlined in the Constitution.

“I align myself with people who, as our forefathers did, believe that in inalienable rights and that the Constitution restricts the government from what they can do,” Newman said.

 
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According to police, on July 9, David Brutsche (pictured, above) told an undercover police officer, “We need to arrest the police and take them to our jail and put them in a cell and put them on trial in a people’s court. If we run into the position that they resist, then we need to kill them.”

By that time, the three (Brutsche, Newman, and the undercover officer), had purchased a vacant house and had begun to outfit it for their jail. As the police report (below) indicates, Brutsche and Newman were later taken to a vacant house the police had prepared for them. The couple then began installing devices for holding a police officer captive in the house.

Here’s how the Southern Poverty Law Center begins its description of the sovereign citizens movement, which it says is difficult to measure the size of…

The strange subculture of the sovereign citizens movement, whose adherents hold truly bizarre, complex antigovernment beliefs, has been growing at a fast pace since the late 2000s. Sovereigns believe that they — not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials — get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they don’t think they should have to pay taxes. Sovereigns are clogging up the courts with indecipherable filings and when cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence, usually directed against government officials. In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two police officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Ark.

 
Before she was allegedly caught up in a plot to kidnap, try, and execute a cop as a political statement, Newman was active as the Church of Scientology’s public relations maven in Southern Nevada.

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It was her job, for example, to promote events at the Celebrity Centre, like this May 2011 How to Make It in the Entertainment Industry Seminar that featured actress Marisol Nichols.

Newman has also been an active part of the Interfaith Council of Southern Nevada, representing Scientology’s views at the council’s events. She was a featured speaker, for example, this past October at an event discussing marriage…

InterfaithOct2012

 
In November 2011, the Interfaith Council held a discussion about evolution, and this was Devon Newman’s presentation to the group…

 

 
Most recently, we found that Devon Newman was listed among other Scientology invitees for a prosperity seminar at the Las Vegas Celebrity Centre scheduled for May, 2013.

 
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By that time, according to police, Newman was already being investigated for her connection to Brutsche and the plot to kill a cop.

We’ve sent a request for comment to Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw. We’ll let you know if she gets back to us.

In our experience, Scientologists tend to be politically in the middle of the road. Most tend to be on the conservative side of things, but other members — including celebrities — are Democrats and give generously to liberal causes.

Numerous times, however, Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard voiced disdain for “wog” law — the rules of a non-Scientology society. In 1966, for example, he said, “Somebody some day will say ‘this is illegal.’ By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not.”

Eleven years earlier, he had encouraged his followers to use the law to their own ends: “The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly.”

Observers have pointed out that Scientology’s “Fair Game” policy of retaliation against critics and former members, and allegations that it abuses its Sea Org staff, were reflections that Scientology doesn’t feel bound by civil law.

But we haven’t previously noticed Scientologists espousing the lunatic conspiracy theories of the sovereign citizens movement. Our commenters will let us know if they’ve seen any previous connections.

 
UPDATE: We’ve received more information about Devon Newman’s Scientology career from a source we are not naming. Here’s what our source sent us…

There is no way the church can claim that Devon Newman was not ever staff or involved in Scientology. Devon Newman was in the Sea Org at AOLA [the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles, part of the "Big Blue complex near downtown] in the early 2000s, up until 2004 I believe. She was the Director of Processing, in charge of people up to the level of Clear (she didn’t work in the OT levels area). She left the Sea Org shortly after that, I believe, due to a medical condition, which kept her from even being on her post full time.

As the D of P, she was awful. She did not relate well with people, did bad interviews, could not duplicate or relay the C/S’s instructions well and she had a bit of an “evil streak” which would get her in bad with others. From the waiting area, I could sometimes hear the C/S (I think Barbara Rubio was her name) yelling and screaming at Devon for her incompetence.

So imagine my surprise when years later Devon Newman showed up as staff at Las Vegas. Having been in the Sea Org is usually a big no-no for being recruited to staff but they made a special exception for her because she was “not qualified for the Sea Org in the first place due to her medical situation.” Devon was posted in Div 6 and did PR work as you reported. That was the last I heard of her.

 
2nd UPDATE: We’ve heard from Karen de la Carriere, who remembers Devon Newman well.

“I still get mail for her here,” Karen told us by telephone today. De la Carriere is well known to the readers of this website. She trained to be a Class XII Scientology auditor with founder L. Ron Hubbard in the 1970s, was married to Heber Jentzsch, the president of the Church of Scientology International, and she was excommunicated in 2010 when she spoke openly about her ex-husband’s confinement in Scientology’s notorious office-prison, “The Hole.” Because she spoke out, her son Alexander was forced by the church to “disconnect” from her, and when he died last year at only 27, she was prevented from attending his church memorial.

Karen lives in a large house in Los Feliz. The front of her house serves as a fine art studio where she does business. Her quarters are in the rear of the house. But there’s another suite of rooms that she rented out to Devon and Dan Newman from about 1997 to 2000.

“She’s been in the church for 35 or 40 years,” Karen says. And after living at the house for about three years, Devon then left to join Scientology’s “Sea Organization” at the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles (AOLA), which is only a few miles away.

“She was a heavy smoker, and she had to give it up to join the SO. I remember thinking that was going to be very hard for her,” Karen says. (Karen called us back to clarify this point: She’s not saying smoking isn’t allowed in the Sea Org, but that Devon was someone used to smoking indoors, and she would have to give that up for the Sea Org, where it can be tough to catch the time off for a smoke break outside.)

Scientologists who join the Sea Org sign billion-year contracts and promise to continue to work for the church, lifetime after lifetime. They are housed in crowded dorms, fed meager food, and work 100-hour weeks for pennies an hour.

We have heard from three people who all worked with Newman at AOLA. They tell us she was there until about 2004.

Karen says that Dan Newman did not join the Sea Org with Devon. He left Karen’s house soon after Devon left, and Karen says the last she heard he was living in Orange County. Karen believes they had been married for about 20 years when they first moved into her house in about 1997.

Karen says the heavy smoking and other reasons soured her on renting the space, and she hasn’t rented that suite to outsiders since.

A few days ago, Karen says, she started getting calls from a bail bond service in Las Vegas, as apparently Devon Newman hoped Karen would put up money to get her released from jail. Karen didn’t return the messages.

 

Here’s Nathan Baca’s report…

 
8 News NOW

 
While parts of the Sea Org do serve as Scientology’s “security and intelligence” organization, many other employees are not involved in that. We haven’t seen any evidence yet that Devon Newman was a part of the Office of Special Affairs, for example.

While in the Sea Org at AOLA, Devon was director of processing and oversaw low-level auditing. While at the Las Vegas Celebrity Center, we’re told her PR job was out of Division 6, the division that works to bring in new public. In neither case are these high ranking positions in Scientology management.

And just a further note about the Snow White convictions in 1979, based on a 1977 FBI raid: That infiltration of the federal government was directed by the very highest levels of Scientology, including founder L. Ron Hubbard (who was an unindicted co-conspirator) and Mary Sue Hubbard, who served a year in prison.

 
3rd UPDATE: We have dox! First, here’s the lengthy police report, which summarizes the actions of Brutsche and Newman as they were being observed by undercover officers…

David Brutsche/Devon Newman Arrest Report

 
And here’s the criminal complaint…

David Brutsche/Devon Newman Criminal Complaint

 
 
UPDATE WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR: Finally, a statement from the Church of Scientology, which was just given to Nathan Baca — who was good enough to pass it on to us.

Are you ready? Here’s how the Las Vegas church responded to Baca’s question about Devon Newman, and about Scientology’s previous involvement in Operation Snow White…

The Church of Scientology follows the law of the land as is clearly covered in our scripture. For more information, see our FAQs at http://www.scientology.org/faq.html

Membership in groups which advocate violation of the law disqualifies an individual from membership in the Church of Scientology.

Regarding your questions of activities of former rogue members of the Church more than 30 years ago, these people were removed from the Church by current leadership in the early 1980s and forbidden from ever serving again on Church staff. Their office was disbanded.

Media Relations Department
Church of Scientology and Celebrity Centre Las Vegas

 
STUNNING: No mention of Devon Newman. No denial that she was the Celebrity Centre’s PR Director. And does that statement imply that she’s been kicked out? If so, why not be more specific about it?

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on August 23, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Madora Pennington

    Scientology attracted some really good and intelligent people, and also the most vile criminal-megalomanicas. Real cute, that she was the DofP at the AOLA. I had a few friends have horrendous experiences there in those years. Doesn’t Devon sound sweet and calm in her little Scientology presentation? WHAT A LUNATIC.

  • Artoo45

    So it’s another good Baca, bad Baca story, then. Yes! Go Nathan!

  • Illinoisian

    I’m daydreaming about the possibility that Ms. Newman’s lawyer will use a variant of the insanity defense which would go something like this: she was not responsible for her actions because she was involved with two brainwashing cults, the first of which, through long years of conditioning, dismantled her sense of right/wrong/legal/illegal and encouraged her to see herself as being above the law. This made her easy prey for the second cult, which quickly turned her into a tool for their own ends.

    The defense is bolstered by the reading into the court record of volumes of quotes from LRH which illustrate the points about conditioning: “ethics” in CO$, the use of the legal system as a tool for persecution, Fair Game, etc. The strategy becomes known as the Scientology Defense and becomes water cooler conversation for weeks.

    Daydreaming . . .

    • Jvm3

      The court would have to appoint a psychiatrist to examine her and testify as to whether she’s competent to stand trial. I’m sure that will go over smoothly.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    I wonder how many church members have gone off the rails like Devon Newman? Since, it has been reported, Miscavige has made auditing nothing more than a formulaic interpretation of where the e-meter needle falls, and has pressured public members to just donate money rather than receive auditing, how can any rational member of the church (assuming there are still a few) determine if another member has gone insane? If the key to any member’s eternity is solely the amount of money they donate, and if no one cares if they are sane or ethical, what’s stopping any member from robbing banks, or running Ponzi schemes or kidnapping policemen? If someone embezzles a million dollars from a union pension plan and donates it to the church, the likelihood is that no questions will be asked and the donor will be feted as the best member of the month. Based on Miscavige’s interprtation of church theology, why should any church member care about Devon Newman if she is not a wealthy whale? There is nothing rational or ethical about a church that allows a demented sociopath to embezzle millions of dollars while Sea Org members live on rice and beans, and public members slide deeper into financial ruin. Why is anyone surprised if a member of that church does anything irrational, unethical and illegal?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Surprised? Who’s surprised?

    • Alice Smith

      Hello .. this person did not “go off the rails”. The insanity of Scientology attracts very evil people, especially as Miscavige has gone crazy since his hand in the murder of Lisa McPherson. He’s been systematically expelling anyone from the SO who had a brain or heart. We can think him, really, for there will be no successor. He’s totally destroyed Scientology. I give them 5 more years, tops.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        I have no doubt you are right. I wonder what other illegal activities (besides the hundreds we already know about) will be exposed next? And just how many illegal acts does it take to get the federal government to seat a grand jury and issue indictments?

    • dagobarbz

      Some of the peeps who invested with Reed Slatkin were Scientologists. He once held the record for Largest Ponzi Scheem in the US, but has since been eclipsed by the masters like Bernie Madoff.

      Due to be released soon, is our Reedie boy. And alas, he will not be getting his luxury kitteh back, they dead of old by now.

    • Norwood Partz

      You forgot to mention that Miscavige ordered children placed in a chain locker, invented the children’s RPF, and the Children’s Security Check, told people they were infested with body thetans and they needed to pay him $$$ to un-infest themselves or they’d be doomed to a hell worse than any hell ever envisioned, had millions laundered and funneled into his private bank account while saying “Your fees do not go to me,” ordered a young woman’s life destroyed for writing a little paperback book that criticized him, and… oh wait, that was L. Ron who did that. Ooops!

  • TonyOrtega
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Now we’re talkin’!

      Let the Streisand begin! Launching in 3, 2, 1 …

      “Scientology Flack Arrested in Plot to Kill Cop”

    • dbloch7986

      NICE!

    • John P.

      I was starting to feel that ol’ throbbing plagiarism vein rise on my forehead until I saw the attribution at the end and that it was reprinted by permission… big sigh of relief…

      • phronsie

        Hah, John P, me too! LOL

    • Sherbet

      (Inb4Mook….hahaha)

    • Ruby Grapefruit

      So you SO ruining the midget’s day!

      • Minion Gayle

        Puts a great big smile on your face just thinking about it, doesn’t it?

    • Captain Howdy

      That’s a BINGO!

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Wickedmodo!!!

    • pronoia

      LOVE the headline. Scientology Flack. Snort!

      • Eivol Ekdal

        I bet they meant to type Flock…bloody Gawker!

        • pronoia

          Flack. Flock. All the same meaning massive idiocy! LOL

    • cicely neville

      Am not only very pleased for you, Tony, but thrilled to see how the Gawker plastered that nice big sci symbol on top of those adorable faces. Just in case anyone misses the point.

    • GlibWog

      Oh We Are..We Are.. Yay Tony! Way to Go .. Woo Hoo…Bravo! Bravo! ( We love you Tony)

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Where the hell is Mook anyway?

    • Steven Bensics

      33,994 readers as of August 25; that’s bigger than the entire Scientology religion.

  • Mooser

    Gosh, a guy like me (who happens to be me) can’t help wondering how this will play in the “Criminon” division of Scientology? You know “Criminon” the division of Scientology that “helps” prison guards and correctional personnel?

    I’m sorry, but I can’t help wondering that.

    • Mooser

      Not that I don’t wonder, as much as the next fellow (who also happens to be me!) if a spell of incarceration wouldn’t be helpful to a lot of law-enforcement and prison personnel, but that’s another issue.

    • Sherbet

      Maybe they’ll have to reserve a bigger meeting room in The Big House.

      • Mooser

        At any rate, it would be doing “Crimonon” a favor to make sure they know about this, don’t you think? I mean, all those law-enforcement personnel involved in Crimonon can come up with plenty of ethical reasons why the officer allegedly selected at random for death had it coming.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I imagine Leah Remini and family are getting caught up with the headlines and right about now are going….

    http://youtu.be/5_FBYCJmOik

    • WhereIsSHE

      I like to imagine that they are!
      (I also like to imagine that they have taken the time to read the letter Rinder posted to the family members who disconnected from him after he escaped.)

      “Phewwwwwwww… that was a close one” is right.

  • joan nieman

    amazing! They are beginning to trap themselves!!

  • Erica

    I confess to waking up each morning to see what fun little treat Mr. Ortega has in store for us and boy this was a good one! Lets see how the cult tries to disassociate itself from this one! A whole new kind of crazy. I’m just glad nobody got hurt this time.

    • Mooser

      I’m just glad nobody got hurt this time” That is fortunate, but in this day and age, I am amazed by how little violence Scientology seems to provoke. I’m not sure even a completely pacific fellow like myself (I’m at least as pacific as the next guy, who also happens to be me) could remain calm if I discovered my bank account rifled for Scientology courses.

  • Mooser

    Just show’s you something, doesn’t it? I was, silly creature that I am, wondering this morning as I turned on the computer “Okay, let’s see if “The Underground Bunker” can come up with something fresh, hot and crisp by the 7:00 am deadline!”
    There’s a regular gold mine of material, when it comes to Scientology giving itself the shaft. ‘Sufficient for each day is the evil thereof’, or something like that.

    Tony Ortega: If you can, please forgive the unwarranted intrusion of my personal e-mail wondering why I couldn’t access comments. The problem was that this iteration of Disqus won’t open in IE, something I should have known, but do now.

  • Mark

    “The plot called for using vinegar and bleach to destroy
    evidence on the officer’s body before disposing it in the desert.”

    Er, no. If they had been stupid enough to mix vinegar (acetic acid) and bleach (sodium hypochlorite), it would have yielded chlorine gas – thus adding more deaths (or at least nasty injuries) to the plot.

    Thick as two short planks…

    • aboutandout

      Awe, now you have given them the heads up.

      • Mark

        Curses! Foiled again!

        • BananaSplits8

          Damn those meddling chemists.

      • Mooser

        “Awe, now you have given them the heads up.” As if Scientology’s explosive power is bounded by wog chemistry!

      • RMycroft

        Come on, everyone knows that you use vinegar, sodium bicarbonate and a little dish soap.

        • Snippy_X

          Dexter uses straight bleach. Not as environmentally friendly as your recipe though.

          • Mark

            [Peter Lorre voice]: As a practicing fiend, I tend to favour concentrated sulphuric acid for complete disposal – watch out for false teeth and nail-extensions, though. Quicklime is only useful if you want some remains to gloat over. Now I’m off to sort through my collection of shrunken heads…

          • RMycroft

            He should try cleaning vinegar, which is double-strength.

            • Mark

              Glacial acetic acid (nasty stuff).

  • Sunny Sands

    A little tent watcher diversion: more activity on the lot south of Flag Mecca Super Power building on Franklin St. A stack of steel square poles has appeared that look like they could gird a large tent.

    • ze moo

      As hurricane season is in full swing, it is time set up a really big tent in Tampa Bay and see what the weather gods think of us. As the tent has to be up until October, I think its going to go flying up to Mobile for a visit……

    • Mark

      Meanwhile, back in East Grinstead…

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lol..

      • GlibWog

        hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahhahahha OMG that is some funny shit Mark.. hhaha

    • Captain Howdy

      You’re doing an excellent job on tent watch, Sunny.

  • Mooser

    I know why the Scientologists need to arrest, try and execute a law enforcement officer! It’s obvious! David Miscarriage (thank you, Disqus spel-chek) is enraged by the Zimmerman verdict!

  • Spiderpope

    Who’d have thought a cult that preaches anything goes in relation to your enemies could produce nutjobs like this?

  • Sunny Sands

    I think there’s a lot more to the Devon Newman story to come out. She bought a home with Brutsche and an undercover police officer? Big red flag there. As a 67-year old woman, she wouldn’t be the first senior citizen to fall under the spell of a younger criminal. Witnesses have said she’s no angel, but I don’t think she was the leader in this. Time will tell.

    • WhereIsSHE

      You don’t have to be “the leader” to be a co-conspirator, and falling “under the spell of a younger criminal” (of which there is no evidence) is not a defense to conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder.

      But I’ll agree with you on this point:
      There IS “a lot more to the Devon Newman story to come out”.
      (And I, for one, am looking forward to learning all about what she said and did, as documented on tape by undercover investigators, and even moreso am looking forward to learning any and everything related to her history and activities in the cult.)

  • Watergate

    Jesus, Tony – could Gawker make your byline any more invisible (light charcoal against slightly lighter charcoal background)?!

    At http://gawker.com/scientology-flack-arrested-in-plot-to-kill-cop-1188941437?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Holy crap! What happened to Devon in the last 19 months? Here’s a pic from about just 19 months ago! Did she do some L Rundowns or something? Put through the Sec Check ringer? Something else?

    http://i39.tinypic.com/2i04sxc.jpg

    http://i41.tinypic.com/288qlfn.jpg

    And here’s her Facebook Page. This is typical of sci FB pages these days. They are Fearful of the food they eat and air they breathe, psychs, some government factions, it’s all about keeping each other Too Terrified to Live outside scientology.

    https://www.facebook.com/devon.newman.77?fref=ts

    • sugarplumfairy

      Rice and beans can do that to a girl..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        but, but … that’s just for sea ogres. Someone? asked if she was connected to Criminon. Not that I have found but…

        She worked at Airespring up until 2009. Founded by Avi Lonstein, grew up in scientology. He’s had business before with whale Michael Baybeck, then formed a telecom type business, and Airespring a telecom, voip. (hmmm, about those phone calls ). Also of course an OT 8.

        He states his mom was a volunteer for Criminon. heh. Avi also did those crazy L Rundowns in 2011. Devon lists herself as Exec Asst in Airespring on her Linkdn blurb. Now I can’t help wonder if Devon Did work with Criminon. Then she’d have been hooked up to some nice felons for her rolodex, you know, in case she needed some work done. Dig underneath a scientology, you find a tunnel.

        http://www.tmcnet.com/voip/0409/avi-lonstein-ceo-of-airespring.htm
        http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/a/avi-lonstein.html

        • WhereIsSHE

          She was involved with the cult’s “Foundation for a Drug Free World”, so that would be even more priceless if that sore on her lip is, in fact, a sign of meth use.

          Not sure which I am hoping is the correct answer: meth use.. or STD;)

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            If she’s seeing a scientology chiropractor or D.O> instead of a thyroid endocrinologist specialists there is No telling what she is being given or feeding on.

            • dbloch7986

              I would venture to say that all Scientologists see chiropractors and “natural” practitioners instead of actual, real doctors. “here, take some vitamin a, it will help with the imbalance between your blood humor and yellow bile humor….”

          • dbloch7986

            I think that most crack/meth pipe burns are on the lower lip though.

          • Captain Howdy

            For white trash petty criminals living in Nevada..meth is definitely the word.

    • Jvm3

      The sore on her lip is a possible sign of meth use. That would explain why shr suddenly looks so strung out. But it could also be herpes or just a scab from a busted lip.

      • dbloch7986

        I was going to say herpes too. Hahaha. Terrible.

    • Sunny Sands

      I agree. She needs a medical exam by a qualified doctor.

    • dbloch7986

      How ironic that her last facebook post is one about human trafficking…

    • Captain Howdy

      Yea, I think maybe Brutalschtick had her on the M(eth) Rundown.

    • Spackle Motion

      Someone needs to inform this woman that the 80s mom-perm is no longer fashionable.

  • SoMissDelicious

    all I have to saw about all of this is:
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • MagicJesus

    FoxNews.com has a 3 minute news feed on this story by reporter Jon Scott….not one mention of her scientology ties.

    • MagicJesus

      I do see that Tony is tweeting up a storm on the CNN side though…

  • Ang

    Feb 2012 “Reverend” Devon C. Newman, Director of Public Relations for the Church of Scientology speaks to Channel 13 News forwarding a Drug Free Revolution: http://www.vegasinc.com/community/press-releases/109/

    • Ang

      Here’s the link from 2012…tried to edit my post earlier but it didn’t take http://www.vegasinc.com/community/press-releases/109/

    • WhereIsSHE

      ZOMG! Check out that cult press release (made to appear as though it was independently written by an objective reporter).

  • Spackle Motion

    Are you writing for Gawker now, Tony? I was about to get mad at them for an obvious cut/paste job but then noticed your name on the article.

    If so….thank GOD! It’s about time they got decent writers.

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    I think I can hear the shredders and angle-grinders of AOLA and the Las Vegas CC from way over here in Europe…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      also, all those 150 “maintenance” workers Miscavige has assigned to the Super Power building. Remember, the Giant Shredding Machines room is conveniently located on the 1st Floor off the lobby.

      • BananaSplits8

        Doggonit, an unexpected electrical expense that doesn’t have the benefit of an “all-is-well” street-side view.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Well, there has been horrific weather this week and more to come. Reports on Fort Harrison in Clearwater,FL have included funnel clouds, 70-80 mph gusts, street flooding and oh yes, sporatic power outages. In fact, I’m watching today’s storm cell form and approach as I type. heh Also great tent set up weather!

          • Observer

            It sure would be a shame if a funnel cloud touched down right on top of the biggest tent in town–with no one inside, of course. Well, maybe if the twister were heading to the Land of Oz it would be nice if it could whisk Davey away so he could find a heart, brains and some courage. Nah … no doubt he’d just hook up with the Wicked Witch of the West.

            • ze moo

              Davey would be so good in the flying monkey corps….

            • Observer

              He was born for it!

          • Sunny Sands

            I don’t think we ever determined if you need a permit to put a large public structure like a tent in the city limits. Yeah, lots of storms this week, and it’s thundering outside right now.

          • BananaSplits8

            Wanna bet Miscavige is hoping for a hurricane that has a 0.1% chance of hitting Clearwater just so he can claim their collective OT powers diverted it.

          • Rita Gregory

            Stay safe THDNE!

    • Sunny Sands

      The wayback machine negates a lot but not all of the shredder activity.

  • Jgg2012

    So, according to sovereign citizens, cops are “suppressive persons” who can be randomly fair gamed?

  • SoMissDelicious

    god the comments on cnn are hilarious. RIGHTWING TEABAGGERS! Republicans! fucking hell man. I’m more concerned about their Scientology ties.

  • piper

    Conspiracy is, and always was, a core belief on which the scientolgy group is based for cohesion and control. As a paranoid writer Hubbard was well aware of creating the opposing forces of the enemy who we must fight against together. On the wall of every org and mission was The Plan For World Peace, and opposing it was Wog law, None Dare Call It Conspiracy and every John Birch Society book we could get our hands on.. but one day the Plan for Whirled Peas disappeared!, why? There was a government raid and. – we were told to get rid of anything anti-government which would help the enemy prove their case.. No worries, we kept on making dirt files on every pol or person of power in the area. If we couldn’t find dirt, we could make some. We were imbued with the idea that we were really fighting Rockefeller agents and SMERSH psychiatry everywhere. Talk about Type III ( psychotic reaction) OSAand their field staff were the living example of it.

    • Spackle Motion

      I’m reading ‘Orange is the New Black’ right now and fixated on the name Piper. There’s no point to this comment, just thought I’d throw that out.

    • coonellie

      Bummer…seeing your name reminded me of two friends from my childhood. I looked her up (same first name as you) and she’s involved in COS. Sigh.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    New York Post headline:

    “Scientology PR rep & accomplice rigged vacant house to capture police for interrogation, torture and murder”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sovereign_citizen_duo_plotted_police_z7paqGgFnwnXdvQSkQ6vSN

    • John P.

      Money quote from the Post article:

      During a tour of gun stores the next day, Brutsche said that what they were planning was going to be big, “and that they would really get a large following once they started because of the publicity,” the report said.

      Apparently, co-defendant Brutsche, while not a Scientologist, is also a devotee of the PR theories of noted public relations expert L. Ron Hubbard.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        sounds about right. Clean the org and you’lll 5x the income. Outflow = inflow. in an emergency, first thing you do is promote promote promote.

        now we need to promote promote promote to CNN, ABC and NBC News that this is scientologist Reverend Devon Campbell Newman from the Scientology Organization headed by David Miscavige.

        • AnyOldName1

          Ick. The CNN racists keep down voting me over there. They consider anything that isn’t race related OT (the ‘wog’ OT = off topic:) )

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I’m waiting for Nathan Baca to get all his fact ducks in a row and come out with an eye poppin’ update that will rock the major news channels in Las Vegas and then get picked up and out from there.

            Between Leah Remini and Denise Miscavige Hill being Big News across the outlets, I can’t help think this will really explode across the networks once they get a clue of who
            Scientology PR Director Devon Campbell Newman is in full Reverend status.

      • ze moo

        There are several ‘gun stores’ in my area of Upstate NY (or Greater Canada, if you wish) and none give ‘tours’. You can leisurely exam any gun in stock and debate the usefulness of lead and steel shot.

        As Brutsche and Newman will soon be starting their own sovereign citizen chapters in their respective penitentiaries, they can try our Lrons criminal rehabilitative theories too.

        Newman! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFIXy3u4WQ

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          Are you in the Buffalo or Rochester suburb of Toronto?

          • ze moo

            Albany

      • marti

        Wonder if Brutsche smokes Kools.

      • Phil McKraken

        This idea of a key act of violence sparking the final showdown (e.g., race war) is a staple of apocalyptic cults. If you ever have the displeasure of reading “The Turner Diaries,” you’ll find it’s a key component. It was what Timothy McVeigh thought he was doing in Oklahoma City.

        • ThetaBara

          Yeah, this guy sounds like Manson without the hot chicks.

    • ze moo

      The NY Post and Radar 0n Line are hyping the $cientology connection. Nice to see some pile the crazy on lunacy…..Is that how you make a ‘mystery sandwich’?

  • MagicJesus

    (miscavige pours medicinal size scotch)

    • Mark

      What?! does he have to do everything himself?

      • MagicJesus

        I can safely say that scotch is the only thing the Lolli-pop guild member and I have in common…

        • Mark

          And Tomintoul isn’t overpriced nouveau-riche-fodder like Shortarse’s favourite Macallan.

  • dbloch7986

    No response from the International Organization or Las Vegas organization? Everyone hasn’t deleted her from facebook? The internet still acknowledges her existence?

    What’s going on David/Karin/OSA?? Shouldn’t you have removed all trace of her existence????

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I was thinking that while reading her facebook page and all the scientology front group promotions on it as well as the Political cray cray stuff.
      I hope this means the few Vegas staff just turned off the lights and went home…for good.

      • dbloch7986

        Right? There is Scientology stuff all over her Facebook. I’m shocked they are still there.

        I am not shocked by the right-wing conspiracy theory sovereign citizen thing though. Most of the rank and file Scientologists are so disconnected from the world that they share those views.

    • BananaSplits8

      COB has greater worries right now. They just figured out the multicolored tent brings ALL the wrong hues out of the American gold painted foam stage pillars. COB’s tan looks weird and he is not happy.

  • ze moo

    666 comments, we’re having a devil of a time….

  • Imagica

    Why was she teamed up with a child molester?

    • dbloch7986

      Because she is a Scientologist…

      • Imagica

        I’m assuming she’ll be abandoned by them as well.

        • dbloch7986

          She will as soon as they find out. The fact that there are still Scientologists on her facebook leads me to believe that Scientology has yet to catch wind of this arrest.

  • dbloch7986

    Tony… Did you see this story from 2009? The man was from Los Gatos, CA. Any word if he worked at the Los Gatos Org?

    http://www.fugitive.com/2009/07/14/los-gatos-man-david-brutsche-arrested-after-six-hour-stand-off-with-police-at-16400-block-of-bennett-way/

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      I have two questions. Is it possible that child molesters are drawn to the CoS because it promises to “cure” them? Once they are in, are they kept in by threats of revealing their “confessions” of ongoing molestation? If a child and/or parent report the molestation and the church orders them not to tell the police, which is what happened in Australia, under U.S. law that is obstruction of justice, at best, and aiding and abetting, at worst. I think the fact that Newman was rooming with a convicted child molester is not coincidence. I just wonder how many there are in that organization.

      • dbloch7986

        To your first one: Definitely not. Scientology does not advertise to those kinds of people. Remember Scientology is predatory and so are they. Predators fight over prey, but they don’t usually eat each other.

        Surprising as it may sound, Scientology tries to avoid hiring or taking money from people that pose a legal threat (i.e. convicted felons of any kind or active criminals). I suppose criminals know not to trust other criminals. lol

        Hubbard justified all kinds of child abuse when he called them “adults in little bodies”. So, can I see a child molester using Scientology to justify sexual abuse: Yes. Definitely.

        First of all Scientology requires that all legal disputes be resolved through the church and on the church’s terms. They encourage keeping the “law” out of it, basically by threatening you that if you go to the police you will be declared. Of course we know then you lose all support, all friends and all family inside the church.

        Then they play the “blame the victim” game. Not only did the molester do something wrong, but the child must have done something wrong to “pull it in”. Even with a three year old…he must have past life transgressions that caused this to happen to him….

        • ThetaBara

          “criminals know not to trust other criminals” – yes. LOL.
          The rest, not lulzy, but has the ring of truth. Yes, blaming the victim. That makes it not the criminal’s fault!

          • Captain Howdy

            Jan Eastgate told 11 yr old Carmen Rainer it was her fault her stepfather molested her. She pulled it in.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Somehow this got by me, but Tony Anthony Strawn (of the Amanda Ambrose and Strawn scientology family) was already released from jail recently. He’s living close to Flag now in Clearwater at a house which Appears to be owned by a Dunedin guy who is a repeat crim. 208 S Nimbus Ave, Clearwater, FL 33765-3631 in Pinellas County, FL
          Jeez. Scientology is set up to hide and protect criminals. It all depends on if they are deemed valuable to someone inside sci circles and family has to be considered too. In Tony’s case, the church did everything to try and cover up this pedophile. He was one of the original Apollo All Stars with Hubbard. Amanda Ambrose was a lifelong vocalist, B List, and Scientology FSM then worked with Flag’s for Ebony Awakenings.

          http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=11790

          https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/inmate-number-547113-donald-anthony-strawn.104428/page-2

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          Thanks Derek, the more the story about Newman and her pet child molester spreads, I am sure many, many people will want to read your answer to my questions.

    • Minion Gayle

      The toilet has an org? Wow, kind of out of the way. But I guess if I had to live there, I’d be looking to sign a Sea Org contract, too. A billion years sounds good just about anywhere else.

      And I’m from Merced.

      • dbloch7986

        Los Banos are the bathrooms lol >>> In central California (which coincidentally smells like a toilet because of all the cows)

        Los Gatos are the cats. >>> Thats northern California just south of San Jose.

        • Minion Gayle

          *sigh* I know that. My brain is just wired with too little sleep and too much caffeine these days.

        • SoMissDelicious

          I’m actually from there, Los Gatos… (before moving to Nevada) The Stevens Creek Org is creepy as f***. Looks like an empty office building, really unassuming and then BAM Scientology logo

  • Ivan Mapother

    I sure hope this little faus pas does not endanger her PR job at the Las Vegas Celebrity Center. Well, we now know who’s staying behind to hold down the fort in Vegas when everyone else goes to Clearwater for the IAS/Super Powers wing ding in October.

  • USA MRIID

    I see that some news sources are way behind the curve on this, they have not yet discovered her Scientology connection.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Somebody should try to get a statement from the co$ PR rep in Vegas..

    =)

    • SoMissDelicious

      i lol’d. really hard. So much I snorted a little

      • sugarplumfairy

        wish I could take credit.. Somebody at happy hour just said it.. I was laughing so hard it took me 5 min to type it..

        • marti

          Hope you didn’t spill your drink. Put that comment on Gawker.

          • sugarplumfairy

            It was already empty..

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Where’s Bury? Can’t wait till she gets a load of THIS. oh my.

            • Sherbet

              I was wondering the same thing.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oh no shit….hilarious!!! Who said that SPF? I wanna send them a cupcake!

            • sugarplumfairy

              Don’t know.. We were watching NBC and they weren’t mentioning scientology at all, but I’d been updating coworkers all day so the scientolgy jokes were coming fast and furious.. I couldn’t keep up.. with their joking or their drinking..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Lucky you, your friends enjoy good Scilon J&D. Mine just roll their eyes at this point.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Sounds like a fun crowd to get happy with! and smart.

      • GlibWog

        In the Bunker that is called a ” SnickerSnort ” ( per i- Betty )

    • marti

      Clever. Too funny.

  • MrMojitoRisen’

    $cientologists get meth face?

    • MagicJesus

      She looks too corpulent for meth….I’m guessing booze, and coke-bloat.

      • Captain Howdy

        If you see the photos THDNE posted of her, she’s actually kind of slim.

        • MagicJesus

          I think those were 18 months old? Lot’s of miles on her since then. That troglodyte she hooked up with was not a Vegan, I’m guessing…

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            She has a thyroid disease, which by comparing the photos, I’d say is not getting treated properly or at all or there are other physical conditions or something going on. Her glands look like they are about to burst. I hope the police check out what doctor’s name is on her meds And check out the meds as well.

            • Captain Howdy

              I don’t even understand why people are goofing on her face. For 67 she doesn’t even look that bad in a notoriously unflattering mugshot

            • Observer

              Which is even more amazing since she’s a Sea Org survivor.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yes, 67 she’s probably not trying out for Sports Illustrated Cover. If she’s not getting treated right, it can lead to cancer and stroke very quickly too. She just looks very ill to me. Probably doesn’t trust AMA doctors like so many sci’s.

      • Rob Kline

        coke-bloat!!! it all makes sense now why i can’t get these pounds off. my friends were right i should have switched to meth years ago! (now to see if that ever gets used as a self-admission of drug use should i ever piss off “tiny-fists”)

  • DMSTCC

    I wanna know how these two became a “couple”, as news is being reported that they were. Or, how they hooked up otherwise.

    • Captain Howdy

      Devon felt the need for speed!

      And by that I don’t necessarily mean meth.

      • ThetaBara

        Dood. They have equal but opposite meth faces!

        • Captain Howdy

          That what I meant by saying “speed’ didn’t necessarily imply meth use.

          I’m guessing she hooked up with this loser for the same reason most people get together..loneliness and desire.

    • Sunny Sands

      LOL. Inquiring minds want to know.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        scientologists cram into all kinds of nests with not so strange bedfellows all the time, just for a place to zonk out a few hours and do laundry. Usually they’ll be jammed with too many bunk mates, but not always. Sci’s that have been on staff don’t look at houses as homes after a while. just a bunk. And any ages, sizes, types, doesn’t matter, because they aren’t humans, they are Thetans.

  • dbloch7986

    News! The undercover Bunkerite, who now just goes by the moniker of “Mom”, has used her intelligence skills to acquire a response from Scientology’s Propaganda machine!

    “Here is Karin Kung Pouw’s response to Tony’s morning report regarding The Church of Scientology’s Reverend Devon Campbell Newmans’s arrest for conspiracy to kidnap and murder a Las Vegas police officer:

    “Once again, the unemployed fringe blogger, Tony Orlando, has fabricated a story in order to incite religious intolerance against the most ethical people on the planet. Why? It’s obvious that he and his pathetic fellow fringies are threatened by the expansion that the Church of Scientology TM has been accomplishing this year!

    Lets focus on the amount of books that the CoS TM has published, sold, donated and resold, provided free of charge to libraries, schools, governments, boy bands and opinion leaders all over the seventy continents Lets also talk about all of the expensive buildings that our parishioners have purchased and renovated into Idle Orgs, in the most important and heavily populated cities of the most influential countries on the planet. Lets make a point to discuss all of the car accident victims who have been saved by the magical finger assists of Scientologists and all of the druggies and drunks who have been successfully taught to face their addictions and stare them down, while learning L. Ron Hubbard’s technology to levitate ashtrays, drinking glasses, and bottles of Wesson Oil, resulting in a proficiency in writing skills (Knowledge Reports), and increasing their credit limits, commencing into a billion year commitment to the CoS’s TM Sea Org TM.

    Tom Cruise, Jenna Elfman and Kirstie Alley are only three examples of how our technology has made a difference in improving the communication dynamics of those who study and excel in the L. Ron Hubbard methods of superior speaking abilities, and such. They are all very successful, loved and admired around the world and have millions of fans on their twitter accounts.

    Perhaps Mr. Orlando should focus on how the U.S. government is framing innocent American citizens who are exercising their constitutional rights? That would be a novel idea, wouldn’t it?

    For the record, the woman who is inaccurately being referred to as a Scientologist minister and employee is a bitter defrocked apostate who was working as a mole for the lunatic squirrel rubbish-rousers in an attempt to make the CoS TM look bad.

    The haters are gonna hate. We are prepared. Remember; we are better than all ya’lls

    ML (not really),

    Karin Kung Pouw

    Director of Public Affairs and Propaganda for the Church of Scientology Intergalactical”

    KA-POUW!

    • Sherbet

      Oh, that Mom! Love her! Miss her!

      • dbloch7986

        Don’t worry. M and Agent D009 are working in cahootz!

  • Cunning Stunt

    Great guns, that mug shot is going to give me nightmares for days!!!

  • Captain Howdy

    Hey!

    Devon & Dave made the Boston local 5 o’clock news.

    They were described as Sovereign wackos, but no mention of any alien space cult connection.

    • Sherbet

      I missed it. And CRAP! on not having the scientology connection mentioned.

    • Bella Legosi

      I highly doubt that the Co$ connection will be brought up much outside of the Bunker. Makes me wonder why it hasn’t been stated yet? It’s not exactly slander now is it? And if Devon was one of those End of Days Christian, Sovereign wackos, you know their religious beliefs would be part of the story.

      I wonder if this will make FOX? I would LOVE to see what Greta would have to say about this!!!

      :(

      • Mooser

        I noticed several people, myself among them, pointing out the CoS connection at TPM.

  • Jeb Burton

    Of course the unemployed bloggers will highlight this story. Ms. Newman did not know that this attractive young man was involved in this kind of behavior. She was just trying to uphold the constitution of the United States. And the religious bigots wont tell you the story that Scientology has opened 34 new churches and recruited 10 million new members. Do you people know that scientology is the fastest growing religion in the world? And wait til you see our new tent! You will be running to become a Sea org staffer.

    • dbloch7986

      Hey there are all kinds of other benefits of the Sea Org:

      For example, if you are a homosexual voyeur you can spend every morning in the showers watching naked wo/men prance around.

      They serve hamburgers every Wednesday (with french fries).

      You get free room and board in exchange for your life-long commitment to menial slave labor.

      When you are promoted you get to take out your sexual frustration on your juniors by screaming and beating them.

      You are protected from the entheta of the internet and television media.

      All the LRH books you could ever read are in the local orgs.

      Free abortions. (sorry that was a dark one but I had to put it in there)

      • ThetaBara

        I’m pretty sure they don’t actually pay for the abortions, since they happen offsite.

        • Bella Legosi

          No they don’t. Sea Org females make so little that they are eligible for grants, financial assistance, or State sponsored health plans that would pay for the abortion. Could you imagine if Co$ were responsible in a financial way for abortions? That would put off so many religions that Co$ panders to when they feel they have been slighted, not to mention that would also show just how forced these abortions are (by listing the number of women vs. money put out) Once again Co$ finds a way for the government to pay for their own craziness! F**king nauseating!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You got French Fries? Damn, you kids had it sooooooo cushy.:)

      • pronoia

        You didn’t mention the faux-navy airline attendants uniforms.

  • nottrue

    Devon you better call your CHURCH im sure they will rush to your side

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Has the “Church” already grabbed the “Who Is” site?

  • Bella Legosi

    Wow……..the most ethical people on planet Earth strike again!!!!!!

    When oh when shall these bastards face RICO?????? I am becoming very impatient!

    • coonellie

      Great to see you! How’s the new job going? It’s been a few weeks now, hasn’t it? I can tell you’re working, though, as you’re much more scarce!

      • Bella Legosi

        Nope………off for a few hours and trying to catch up! I think my jaw is still agape from reading the headline to today’s post!

        Job is going great! Just came off a few days off and strangely the day is going super fast! I go in this Tuesday to get 3 wisdom teeth pulled :( I am not looking forward to that, but at least it will get done and I can stop taking antibiotics! YAY that means Bella can have her self a beer or two, since she hasn’t been able to drink for the month she has been on the antibiotics!!!

        • coonellie

          So glad the job is going great! That’s really good news :). Sorry about the dental visit…hoping your wisdom ratio stays level after the pull! Lots of beer should help :).

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Yeah, and you’ll soon feel much much bettter with all the troublesome wisdoms gone too! Hell, who needs all that wisdom if you can’t drink beer?

            • Bella Legosi

              Amen!

              I got a ton of Supernatural on my DVR ready and set up! OMG with Breaking Bad!!!!!

          • Bella Legosi

            :D

  • Bella Legosi

    So, from reading the times in which she was active in the “church” while allegedly plotting this bizarre and moronic “political statement” is it safe to say she may have not told all during any auditing she may have been undergoing?

    And if she had told all in any auditing session and was open about this plot or her personal views……how the hell could she have still been in good standing? Aren’t $cientologists expected to follow the laws (well as far as Public’s are concerned, Staff and Execs/OSA is a very different horse of another color!!! But I am just trying to make a point) You would think that from this woman’s personal beliefs that she is “sovereign” and does not have to abide by the laws of her locality/federal she would be some how deemed PTS/SP due to the unwanted attention from law enforcement that is sure to follow anyone with those views???

    • pronoia

      Now that. Is an interesting observation. Hey OSA! Is is possible she was goofing the e-meter?

  • Bella Legosi

    There are a few $cilons on “God Like Productions”.com

    I used to post and read there a lot. I would post a lot under MK Ultra and $cientology/L Ron sections. There are quite a few trolls but there is a presence of some Public’s/Staff/OSA most certainly. They love to post under the Big Pharma, MK Ultra, and FBI forums. Although it is very difficult to ascertain if someone is a Troll or $ilon. It is more apparent when psyches or L Ron is being discussed.

    I have never heard of some plot to kidnap, try, and execute a police officer by $cientologsts or even in my conspiracy theorist readings. I have heard of anticipation of law enforcement confrontation, but to plot kidnapping and a trial is a first for me (and I have read A LOT of conspiracy theory blogs, books, ect) Most conspiracy theorists don’t even bother trying to prove innocence when discussions of law enforcement officers are being discussed. In the conspiracy theorist mind; law enforcement officers (especially federal agents) are already guilty, therefore it would be counter productive to set up any “trial”. Also, depending on the region, many conspiracy theorists don’t complain *much* about local law enforcement, and more times then any local cops tend to get a free pass just because they are not federal. But that depends on how far a conspiracy theorist has gone down the rabbit hole, if they know what Posse Comitatus is, or believe that local law enforcement and the military are/have been merged.

    • coonellie

      Hah! I know what the Posse Comitatus is, but that’s only because I’ve studied the Christian Identity movement (barf!). Jeez, I’m beginning to worry myself. (And, I refuse to drive from Spokane to Sandpoint for fear of a flat tire).

      • Bella Legosi

        Aye, when you double fist conspiracy theory you eventually run into Christianity and Posse Comitatus. There is no shortage of towns in the NW where it is still very “Sun Down” towns or areas where it is a virtual, “No Man’s Land”. If you ain’t from around there, just stay out. People are like that in Alaska with their private property. The gold/mineral mines (privately operated) post every 50ft of their property line and should you still find yourself on their land you can and will be shot. Because it is a mineral operation and due to the amount of POSTED signs it is common sense that any trespasser will be shot on sight. I tried to find the real legal ones I saw when I went to Hatcher’s Pass, but could not. Below is a taste of the language used in some signs I have seen.

      • Bella Legosi

        I totally second the (barf!) It is mind numbing just how arrogant and ignorant hicks can be. “We are Christians who hate Jews! We identify with Neo-Nazism, but are total patriotic Americans……even tho many grandfathers, fathers, uncles, brothers and friends died fighting National Socialism, we like flying the flag, cuz we totally hate anyone not Aryan-Christians. White Power!!!! errrrr I mean White Pride!!! That’s more PC! *wink wink*!!!” Unfortunately, it is these weird bastards who will be “prepped” for disasters. I wonder just how “Christian” they will be if the world went to shit, something tells me they wouldn’t be out there loving thy neighbor, whose family is starving.

  • sizzle8

    Why is Miscavige pulling it in?
    Hmmm? I wonder what the tech says about that?

  • Sherbet

    Just thought of something (and forgive me if someone already made the same point): If the media are omitting Newman’s affiliation with scientology in the spirit of religious freedom, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be mentioned as her occupation. The media would say, “Orthodox Cathedral church secretary convicted,” or “Local dentist pleads guilty,” or “Town firefighter arraigned,” or even “Homeless man allegedly steals…”

    PR Director at the LV scientology CC is Newman’s job, and it’s an identifier, just like her age and address.

    Just looked at another story on the Las Vegas Review-Journal about a “former actor” who was arrested. The piece said he had played so-and-so in a 2005 movie and was in a couple of TV shows. But Newman’s background can’t be published?

    • Captain Howdy

      They just covered the story on the NBC national news with no mention of the cult. You are right though, whenever there’s a big crime story the occupation of the suspect is usually mentioned in the news coverage. She was getting paid by CofS, so it’s not a religious issue.

  • GlibWog

    OMG That Woman is a Year Older than Me..

    If I ever, ever wear my HAIR like that will someone please Bitch Slap Me to Las Vegas and Back..

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I promise you I will do it!
      That is what friends are for!

      • sugarplumfairy

        And if I ever hook up with a pedophile to kidnap, torture and murder a Vegas policeman, slap me too?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Well, Vegas is weird….But yeah..l will slap ya for that!!!
          And see as how my Dad used to be a Las Vegas Policeman. This shit really pisses me off!!!!

          • pronoia

            Yeah, Even for Vegas, this is some pretty weird crappola.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Mine was a Delaware state trooper.. pisses me off too..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              WTF? Delawarean too? Did we already go over this and my addled brain forgot?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Salesianum!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I think we did mention that then. Sounds familiar. Brandywine for me. Small world sometimes. The only state whose name is a question. DelaWhere?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Padua girl here..

              you forgot IdaHo? I don’t even know da ho..

              sorry.. 3.5 happy hours makes me think that’s funny

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Whew, I thought for a second we had some weirdness going on there with you mentioning Salesianum. I was desperately trying to figure out how Fairy could have gone there.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Didn’t go there.. Would have loved to tho.. =)

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Damn! Wish you were in Vegas Now so you could peruse the org or something. wow

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              HAHA, The ‘Celebrity Center” is actually a few blocks (read miles when out west) off of ANY Celebrity path…so,,…..Whatever.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        bury! There you are. I didn’t want to drink my once a night wine alone. Can you believe this friggin’ week or wot?!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          My gosh it is amazing. Get yer wine…I got mine and am trying to catch up.
          At this point I am starting to worry that I am going to lose my spot as the biggest loudmouth at the Bunker!!!
          Damn!!!!

          • pronoia

            THAT. Can. Never. Happen.

            We have your back girlfriend!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Thank you!. I been reading!! Even if real life is interrupting my spewing!!!

        • sugarplumfairy

          Once a night is very healthy!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Tell that to my carpal tunnel! I gotta switch hands.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Scientology can help you with that..

      • GlibWog

        Oh Sweet Jesus Thank you BTN … Thank you .. I Broke out in a Sweat when I saw that..

        I am NOT down for No OLD Lady Curls just yet.. NOT EVER.. NEVER.. never.. I Ain’t Goin Down That Way..

        Just Made an Appointment after seein that picture to get my Roots Done and start exercising again. I promise.. EEEEEEp …

        Skeeeeeeeeeerd me.. Worser than Obs. Clown… MOOOMMMMY

        • pronoia

          And. don’t believe all that crap about if you are a certain age cutting your hair. Major BS!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Meet the new “65″. We hippies will Not go down lookin’ bad or playin’ sour.

            http://i41.tinypic.com/2zylgtw.jpg

            • pronoia

              Emmy Lou is a goddess! Seriously, she really is.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              And I got Two more bottles of wine ;”)

            • pronoia

              Now yer talkin’!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Just look at her friggin’ guitar! damn. An inspiration for us all.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I saw her in San Diego in concert when she was Eight months pregnant and playing that guitar over THAT baby stomach.
              She rocked.

            • pronoia

              I have seen her a number of times — all awesome. My favorite time was when she showed up at a real beer drenched dive called the Chicken Bone Cafe in Burlington VT the night before a concert in the 80s and rocked it for about 2 hours!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Those are The best kind of musical nirvana events! I learned everything about music at after concert jams in friends’ homes or on some of the old riverboats on the Mississippi and all kinds of strange and juicy dives and hives. One time, I was in that friend’s livingroom at a massive jam in this one dim room but with lots of chairs and some of the Top 8 country legends were just sitting back, kickin’ shoes off, and slapping Something a hundred miles an hour but heads leaned back like they were taking a cat nap. I learned So much about country music and guitar playing that night that no university or book could have ever.

              There was no wifi, cable, youtube, videocams, Nothing back then. So these were precious moments. Everyone in the room was…well, electrified is about as close a word I can pull out of my hat to describe. The scientologists I met who were artists were so promising. Some already were with top groups, others on their way. I am so glad most of them made it out. I put together some decent jams myself during my time. Wow…you sure evoked some vivid great memories!

            • pronoia

              I know just what you mean! No youtube/iphone moments. You just had to happen to be there. I was in this dive – and it was a serious local tiny dive – drinking the cheapest beer on tap (no artisnal beer in those days!) and Emmy Lou walked in and sat down with the house band and rocked it! No one had the capacity to film or record it, but it did actually happen. An amazing gift — she didn’t have to do it but she did.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I walked into this dive on Hollywood Blvd, now I hear is rippin. I’m thinkin’ 1979 maybe. It was afternoon, but of course, inside dives there is no time and always midnight dark. This band was setting up their stuff and I was checking out the equipment. They started tuning up for just a sec, and then riffin’. And then this dark figure came out from nowhere and started getting it on on the harp. I immediately jumped off my stool while doing a half twist, even just hearing the first few bars. I already knew it was Paul Butterfield. it was a little bit like walking into a bar and finding somebody’s version of god.

              They were playing This: Please Send Me Somebody To Love:

              http://youtu.be/gZaPhNSmu1Q

              Heaven please send to all mankind
              Understanding and peace and mind
              But if it’s not asking too much
              Please send me someone to love
              Someone to love

              Show the world how to get along
              And peace we’ll enter when hate is gone
              But if it is not asking too much
              Please send me someone to love
              Please send me someone to love

              And I wake up and ponder the world’s trouble
              And my answer is always the same
              Now let’s put an end to this [damn all] of sin
              Hate will put the world in a flame, what a shame

              Just because I am in misery
              I don’t beg for no sympathy
              But if it is not asking too much
              Please send me someone to love
              Please send me someone to love

              Just because I am in misery
              And I don’t beg for no sympathy
              But if it is not asking too much
              Please send me someone to love
              Please send me someone to love

              Heaven please send to all mankind
              Understanding and peace of mind
              But if it is not asking too much
              Please send me someone to love

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okay, That is just wrong. She should have been being pampered like a goddess day and night, not working.

          • GlibWog

            Amen Sister..

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I KNEW i liked YOU!

          • GlibWog

            Awww Blushes.. and I like you too.. Kismet!

    • Sherbet

      If I ever tweeze my eyebrows into oblivion like that, please slap me back.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It’s a thyroid thing, sherb, believe it or not.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yeah, It is! Mine has been acting up majorly lately.
          I am freezing in THIS Florida weather and I want to sleep 23.75 hours per day!!!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Time for some workups, girl!!!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yep, going soon. Even Mr. Nuts is saying I need it. I haven’t felt this weird in years…
              I am a Zombie!!

          • Couch_Incident

            That’s one way to avoid the high cost of air conditioning in Florida!

            I’ve had low thyroid for the last 15 years – was sluggish and cold all of the time. Take the synthetic now and it helps a lot, but I have to get it checked at least once a year to see if I need to bump up the dosage. Suggest you read up on it and not be satisfied with the doctor telling you are in the “normal range” which is pretty wide – if you still have symptoms, push for more. I haven’t noticed the difference, buy some say the generic synthroid is too variable in potency or that the natural version (from pigs) works better for them.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              just Once a year?!! Um, all good endo’s check quarterly. and “some say” a lot of things because endo research in the last 20 years has focused on diabetes and little on thyroid so the field is Ripe with really bad info and anecdotes as well as rip off artists in white lab coats. Armour Thyroid (natural version) was unstable and shunned years ago, but it has since become reliable and endorsed now. It’s nice that you cared enough to comment though!

        • Sherbet

          Funny you should say that, TH. I just read about it this week, that if the outer third of your eyebrows gets very thin, it’s an indicator of thyroid problems

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            No kidding? I wish someone could have told me that about 20 years ago!!!

            • Sherbet

              20 years ago, I wouldn’t have been concerned enough to know that little tidbit.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        There is a “thing” in the Vietnamese section of town with many of the ladies shaving them off completely and then penciling new ones back on. Gaaarrrggghhhh. Gives me nightmares about seeing that without the replacement drawn on.

        • Sherbet

          That went out with Myrna Loy, I thought.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Oh no, very much alive.

      • GlibWog

        I promise on our friendship… and I will make it a good one..
        You know just to show you that I care

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Just a year behind ‘ya, Glib. Well, it Was a mug shot. But that’s why you should never go outside or to terrorists’ meetings without freshening up the makeup, tinting those greys away but Not to dark ever, and of course, wearing your good underwear.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        WHAT?????
        Damn….You look GREAT!

        Edit: And I won’t even tell you the story about my favorite pair of ratty undies!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Well make my day. thanks. I needed that. A whole week so far working out hard and no bread or bad carbs not one. Didn’t lose an ounce. Spit. But now I feel better.

          • pronoia

            Being no spring chicken myself, I would be honored to meet up with you gals for drinks and laughs! Come to NYC and we will rock it babycaeks!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Would love to revisit NYC. And thanks for the invite. I’m saving this!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I have never been to NYC! Must go!!!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Wow, that’s a real surprise actually.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              What is?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              No NYC. Seems as most “worldly” folks get there BEFORE plastic surgery. Get tickets for BOM and then walk across the street to the COS. Two cults for the price of one!

            • pronoia

              WTF? You must have no idea. Nutty, please come and we NYC bunkerites will show you a non-Broadway/Times Square good old time. You can come too Lwrong!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Thanks! Spent a year of college in Hoboken and took the PATH train in nearly every weekend. Love the city.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              LOL, are you saying I am “Worldly”?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Something like that, yes. *refresh*

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Cool, Cuz my Brooklyn born hubby thinks I am a total yeehaw hick!!!! hahaha

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Awe come on! He’s from Brooklyn and you’ve still not gone? Now you’re losing points.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              LOL, He is EMBARRASSED? How messed up is that?

              Edit:and I took him to Southern Utah where I grew up?
              How MESSED up is that?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              No Remini style Brooklyn pride huh?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I forget he’s from Brooklyn all the time. I just can’t imagine Brooklyn in Ocala. I just…can’t. My brain starts making these crackling sounds and these metal burning smells start up.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oh Shit, so does his shit start burning! My Poly Prep Brooklyn Man just cant figure me out… However….He is adapting! LoL.
              He is so smart…but I have more common sense… so life is SO interesting!
              HAHAHAHA!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yes. Must.

            • pronoia

              Do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • Captain Howdy

              Even I made it to NYC (before they closed CBGB’s).

              Been there twice but was disappointed. I was hoping for the “Taxi Driver” NYC, but according to my friends there and from what I saw, Ghouliani and Bratton sucked the life right out of the place and turned it into Disneyland.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Taxi Driver? My fave movie! EVER!

            • Captain Howdy

              Mine to. I’ve seen it at least 20 times..if not 30.

              Top 5 Taxi Driver, A Clockwork Orange, The Innocents, Zulu, Blue Velvet

            • pronoia

              You MUST add Brazil by Terry Gilliam to the mix!

            • Captain Howdy

              Good flick but..nah. Actually I enjoyed 12 Monkeys more, not saying it’s a better film, just enjoyed it more.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Hot fuzz..

            • WhereIsSHE

              You MUST come to Philadelphia.

              Here is what David Lynch had to say about it:
              http://www.thecityofabsurdity.com/quotecollection/philly.html

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes, yes, yes!

            • pronoia

              Brooklyn.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              But i am a west coaster. Until we moved to Florida the most east I ever visited was Chicago for a short week!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              depends on when you were there and where you were there, Cap’n. Jeez, New York has Everything for Everyone.

            • sugarplumfairy

              TheNextMrsCruise and I and a couple friends are headed there tomorrow for TomKat.. I love it there..

            • ThetaBara

              CB’s is now a fancy menswear store. The Garage is an actual garage again. Only Webster Hall is still a club. Even Slimelight couldn’t survive and is a boutiquey mall.

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              Yeah, when I visited NYC with my father in 1971, Times Square was a little seedy, but I never got a sense that it was dangerous or full of weirdos. The people were friendly, but not effusive, which was a welcome change from being in the South.

            • John P.

              Would love to hoist a beer with you if you get to NYC again, if I’m in town. You know where to find me.

            • pronoia

              Speaking of which…I know I do not speak for myself, but many of us were really hoping to meet you at The TomKat Project and beer-laden after hours festivities!

            • John P.

              Alas, I could not make it. Was looking forward to seeing a bunch of Bunkerites, but ’twas not to be. The summer has not been kind to me as far as helping me carve out time for fun. I may not even be able to make all the Steely Dan shows at the Beacon in a few weeks due to travel, which would be a first for me since they reunited in 1993…

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              you are so sweet, JohnP. Thank you. I would be honored. Okay another incentive in my aquatherapy with Fagen and/or Steely Dan piped thru my Bose.

            • pronoia

              You should! We would have sooooo much fun and I would so love to meet you for real!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I can always use more incentives. I work hard in building muscles back up and trying to lose weight … always due to thyroid issues. Being able to travel for mini trips again is a big incentive for me. I would have SO been there for the TomKat. And likewise if you’re in Florida….definitely welcome.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          I did a double take of that one too. GTF outta Dodge THDNE! You DO look young.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Holy crap! She looks great and tomorrow I am calling a plastic surgeon!!!!!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okaaaaaay. I’ll tell you my secret ingredient …later.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Please DO!!!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            and you thought I was just a cougar! hahahahahaha. Thanks.

            • ThetaBara

              Lucky you. I’m 8.

    • pronoia

      Hey Glibby. She is a frozen being. You on the other hand are animated with life and love!

      • GlibWog

        PRONOIA… Hold Me.. Hold me tight.. I’m Skeeeeeeeered

        • pronoia

          I’m with ya! All the way!!!!!

          • GlibWog

            Phew!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    And here’s Nathan’s updated report…

    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/23242706/i-team

    “Newman once achieved one of the highest ranks in the Church of Scientology’s security and intelligence organization, known as Sea Org. Now, she’s sits in a Las Vegas jail cell waiting to be tried by a court she says she does not recognize.”…

    • 1subgenius

      I think he’s confusing Sea Org with OSA.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        i thought he was referring to her stint at AOLA as Sea Org Staff, no?

      • pronoia

        Really. It does not matter. Since all important OSA people are Sea Org people. See one Mike Rinder, as an example.

    • Unex Skcus

      Great report by Mr Baca!

  • Lark Smith

    Whoa, over 800 comments to go through- you were busy here while I was at w#%*!(work). Well Done Folks! Now with a glass wine I will read, learn, and laugh- Thanks.

  • Jo

    Yikes, very disturbing. What’s next? Keep thinking of that movie Texas chainsaw massacre, where all the crazies are sitting around a table laughing.

    • dagobarbz

      Which one are we?

      • Jo

        Hoping were the good guys, not crazy ones that plot evil deeds. This news is scary.

  • pronoia

    I just have to say. I really really love Nathan Baca!

  • CommunicatorIC

    Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but do we know whether “Reverend Devon Newman” is in fact an ordained minister of the Church of Scientology? If so, it appears that fact has not been discussed in the media.
    http://local.yahoo.com/info-73461012-newman-devon-reverend-church-of-scientology-celebrity-center-las-vegas

    • pronoia

      What does it mean to be an ordained minister in the corporate hierarchy of Scientology anyway?

      • CommunicatorIC

        It doesn’t mean anything hierarchy wise, but the COS does in fact have ordained ministers. The Chaplains are supposed to be ordained ministers. There is actually a policy that states that all auditors are supposed to be ordained ministers, but that policy has not been enforced for years.

        I asked the question because for the general public it may be one thing for a PR flack, or even PR Director, of a church to allegedly be involved in a conspiracy to kidnap and kill cops, but quite another thing — and more troubling and horrific — for an ordained minister of that church to be involved in such a conspiracy.

        • Jvm3

          How does one become ordained? Is there a certain course or “hatting” for it? And do you need to be at a certain level on the bridge? I was under the (apparenty false) assumption that certain members just decided and received permission to become a “Reverend” because it looks more official.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, you are going to wake up a pissed of “Reverend Dee”‘ who never got her official frock!
            Oh geez…it is a good thing she just got a new puter and won’t see this till Sunday!!!!

            • Jvm3

              Ohh noes, is she dangerous? If she still wants to become a minister, you can get certified online very quickly. Except for certain states.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Noooo. Dee was forced to take the Sciloon minister course (even while working at GO undercover as a bartender)
              They made her pay for the course but never “ordained” her!
              she is pissed!
              Dont blame her!

            • pronoia

              I wanna bartender minister!

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              It would make a heck of a Sinemax movie.

            • Jvm3

              That’s shitty. Why was she UC if don’t mind me asking?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              She was GO!
              Sorry Jvm3. Just realized!
              She was “Guardians Office”..precurser to the OSA…

            • Jvm3

              Lol I know but why as a bartender?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Um because THey are not as Innocent as they proclaim.
              There were girls who stripped for Scientology too!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Now that’s a new one! Hey Fantasia(or Destiny, Aurora, Crystal, etc) do you strip to pay for college? No Honey, I’m on my A-E’s in Scientology. How ’bout you come to the champagne room with me and tell me all about your overts and withholds while I play with your wallet?

            • ThetaBara

              It’s more or less the same scam… although strippers don’t charge as much!

              “Kitten’s gotta go…” *blink blink*

            • Jvm3

              Yeah I know. By “UC” I meant undercover. I should have just typed it out to avoid confusion. But I’m pesteing you with questions about your friends story who isn’t here to tell it. Even I find that really annoying so I’ll just shut up now :)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              It’ll take her puter guy That long to set it up? Geez. Too bad she’s a Mac.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I think he just wants to hang at her house! the perv!!!

          • Semper Phi

            Well yes, there is a course, of course (I mean, they wouldn’t get any income from people just deciding and getting permission, now would they). I think pretty much anyone can take it, but auditors are supposed to take it after they finish Level 4 (enabling them to deliver all the levels on the Bridge before Clear). After you have completed the Ministers Course, there is an ordination ceremony that makes you “official.”

            • pronoia

              A course of course! Haha. So would-be cop-killer Devon must be an official “ordained” Scientology “minister.”

            • Jvm3

              Ahh ok, thanks for explaining. And you as we’ll Comm

          • CommunicatorIC

            There is a Minister’s course. One does not have to be at any particular level on the Bridge. As I recall, the prerequisites were very minimal — maybe one prior course.

            As I also recall, while completion of the Minister’s Course was necessary to become ordained as a minister, it technically wasn’t sufficient. There was a board (I believe it was called the ministerial board) made up of Execs that had to approve the ordination, and there is an ordination ceremony. To my memory, these requirements and procedures were not always followed if one needed to “qualed” as a minister ASAP.

            • ThetaBara

              There was also the time when the “church” decided to make EVERYONE on staff get ordained, due to some legal issue or other. The ex who posted about this was annoyed to have been pulled off whatever he was actually trying to complete at the time. Sorry I don’t have details on this.

      • Sunny Sands

        Legally it does make a difference, say if you are a performing a wedding as a religious officiant, you have to be ordained. Also, I’ve heard Hospice requires ordination to work as a minister for them.

  • pronoia

    Haha. Nathan Baca’s reporting that Devon Newman is not the first high ranking scilon to be charged with a federal crime — Mary Sue!!!

  • I am

    The fair game policy IS sinister. It is gang style, not church style.

  • dbloch7986

    I’m not entirely sure why she had to give up smoking. A lot of Sea Org members smoke. They just have to hide from the public. We used to sneak out behind buildings and on the roofs and what not. Well not me personally, I couldn’t because I was underage and that’s illegal (and the Sea Org wouldnt want to be caught doing illegal things), but I used to hang out with a bunch of people who smoked in the stairwells and behind the buildings late at night.

    • sizzle8

      I remember the days of SO crew buying large cans of tobacco and ZigZags to roll your own.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You mean they still don’t? How can sea org members possibly afford a carton of cigarettes at today’s prices?

    • Semper Phi

      Yes, that puzzled me too. So many clams smoke that I used to think I had somehow missed the LRH policy that all good Scientologists had to smoke. So I guess that was my first clue as to what a namby-pamby pantywaist dilettante I really was…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I think Karen was told this as some kind of PR at the time. If it wasn’t for cigarettes and coffee, there would be no Sea Org. prove me wrong.

      • Semper Phi

        Actually, the PR thing makes sense. At Flag no staff member is allowed to smoke outdoors, which means that the only place they can smoke is in the dining room. Coming from NYC, where it’s illegal to smoke in restaurants, the Flag dining room was like Backwards Land to me.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          not outdoors? what the? which dining room? god the crazy.

          • Semper Phi

            Yeah. This was in the Clearwater Building, where all the staff dining halls are. There was one smoke-free dining room, but the rest was enveloped in a smoky haze. There was always a crowd of people just inside the doors, finishing their cigs before heading out, since it’s considered “out-PR” to have staffers walking around town with cigarettes. Like I said, Backwards Land.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Well, that’s it then. This week has been too much even for me. I have now officially crossed over into…

              http://youtu.be/NzlG28B-R8Y

  • Observer

    “A few days ago, Karen says, she started getting calls from a bail bond service in Las Vegas, as apparently Devon Newman hoped Karen would put up money to get her released from jail.”

    If it was Devon, I am aghast.

    • Ruby

      Totally aghast! What is she thinking?!

      • Observer

        Karen’s an SP to be shunned and persecuted … until a Scilon wants something.

        • Ruby

          Exactly!

        • Lark Smith

          What a messed community CO$ is….WTF!

    • Rita Gregory

      These people will use whoever they can! Can you imagine? So glad Karen did not return the calls.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Okay, once again. You just can’t make this shit up. It’s always weirder and worse than you think.
      And thanks Karen, for the update. I just have to whistle up the lulz doggie on this one.

      http://i42.tinypic.com/2ryn1uv.jpg

  • TonyOrtega

    SECOND UPDATE: Devon Newman once rented rooms from Karen de la Carriere before Newman joined the Sea Org in Los Angeles.

    • John P.

      A touching example of how alone Devon must be as the cult has shut her down: she’s so desperate for bail money that the only call she can think to make is to call Notorious SP Karen #1, whose name has been at the top of the list of cult opponents for many years, and who she probably hasn’t seen in at least 15 years. I can’t imagine how much “weirdo factor” Karen must have felt when she got those messages.

      • WhereIsSHE

        And one has to imagine that Devon either:
        a) first tried to get help from “the most ethical people on the planet”–and was turned down/immediately told she was going to be DECLARED, and/or
        b) implicitly understood that she was going to be abandonned/DECLARED/DISCONNECTED FROM/ACCUSED of being an SP all along/of PULLING IT IN/of CRIMES AGAINST TINY FISTS, etc, etc, etc…
        and hence..
        She has NO SHAME and targets KAREN to reg for BOND MONEY.
        It is STRANGER THAN FICTION, for sure.

        This follow-up piece of the story makes her Scientology affiliation all the more relevant, and provides even greater support for the inclusion of her history with the cult/the cult’s own criminal past (and PRESENT) in news coverage of this (otherwise seemingly unrelated) story.

        (I am no betting person, but I would gladly wager that no one in the Sovereign Citizen Movement is going to cough up “one thin dime” to help her either.)

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          It’s always lonely at the bottom of the barrel.

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        John B, did you ever read the short story “The Shout” by Robert Graves, or watch the movie based on it? The idea is that there is a shout that can kill people. V. weird.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Oh shit, just when you think this shit can’t get better…………………..

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Tony, I was confused myself and thought she was part of OSA because PR Director, even in a lower org, usually means DSA or local OSA. But in this piece, it appears Nathan thinks Sea Org are all part of the secret intelligence part of scientology, which is actually OSA. So he tied it in to OSA’s former self, the GO, Guardian’s Office. I’m glad he tied in the early history of it all though as well as the current Narconon events. It IS a criminal organization.

      • TonyOrtega

        Just wanted to caution him that she’s not really the equivalent of Mary Sue ordering infiltration of government offices around the world, you know? But there’s never anything wrong with bringing up Snow White for any reason whatsoever!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          True about the equivalency. Nathan’s no Tony, but he’s a damn close Second. Okay, Brian Seymour is a close Second and Nathan is a close third. Okay…

        • KNMF

          You’re right.

          In Baca’s report, Newman’s co-defendants are Scientology and that other guy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

        • dbloch7986

          Quickly before your update, I want to clarify. I do honestly think that this woman is still in the Sea Org. The reason being that Ex-SO are not allowed to work in Local Orgs.

          Additionally, if the woman is in PR, she works in the Department of Special Affairs (Dept 20, Division 7). Which also oversees legal matters.

          The Public Division is very different. They coordinate events and invite new people into the org. The DSA handles all matters pertaining to the organizations relationship to the surrounding community, i.e. the org’s image.

          So I do think she is in OSA. I do think that this “operation” that she was doing is reflective of the church possibly trying to work it’s way into fringe anti-government subcultures. There’s no way this woman just happened upon a random anti-gov child molester and said “hey, come live with me and let’s overthrow the US government together”.

          There’s something fishy and sinister about this.

      • dbloch7986

        Just so that you can get this in your e-mail because the new blog post is coming:

        To Tony: Quickly before your update, I want to clarify. I do honestly think that this woman is still in the Sea Org. The reason being that Ex-SO are not allowed to work in Local Orgs.

        Additionally, if the woman is in PR, she works in the Department of Special Affairs (Dept 20, Division 7). Which also oversees legal matters.

        The Public Division is very different. They coordinate events and invite new people into the org. The DSA handles all matters pertaining to the organizations relationship to the surrounding community, i.e. the org’s image.

        So I do think she is in OSA. I do think that this “operation” that she was doing is reflective of the church possibly trying to work it’s way into fringe anti-government subcultures. There’s no way this woman just happened upon a random anti-gov child molester and said “hey, come live with me and let’s overthrow the US government together”.

        There’s something fishy and sinister about this.

        • GlibWog

          D.. I read in the Huffington Post that Yes.. X Sea Orgs not allowed to work in Local Orgs..but she was an exception because she shouldn’t have been in the Sea Org in the First Place for Medical Problems.

          OK.. going to bed……..yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn

  • valshifter

    Let us go down and confound their language that they may not understand each other, Genesis 11:7 , that is exactly what scientology is doing when you are forced to Re- learn new meaning of words you already knew and changing the meaning to the ones you already knew.

  • Observer

    This is completely off-topic, but I just ran across this pic and nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

    • Lark Smith

      No delusions of grandeur there LOL!

      • Observer

        Macallan is Davey’s drink of choice … it takes on a whole new meaning when you know that!

        • Lark Smith

          I’d only serve him the bowl of water.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            You are nicer than I am. If he was thirsty…I would offer him a salt block!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              and you’re nicer than I am. I would serve him a pile of subpoenas.

            • Lark Smith

              After the dog of course BtN :)

    • Captain Howdy

      That’s priceless

  • Sydjazz

    Another blow to miscavige hehe. Although i am sure ms kapow will deny she was a member or run a smear campaign. Better put some pop corn on :)

    • Guest

      The *shit* continues to hit the fan at a speed most of us, from years past…couldn’t even dream of.
      Honeslty—–10 years ago did could you possibly imagine ALL this that is happening, being exposed?
      I still am amazed at those who remain “in”. BAIL WHILE U STILL *CAN* :) Tory/Magoo

    • Tory Christman

      The *shit* continues to hit the fan at a speed most of us, from years past…couldn’t even dream of.
      Honestly—–10 years ago could you possibly imagine ALL this that is happening, being exposed?
      This is a DAILY occurrence now. Tick Tock, Davey boy. :)
      I still am amazed at those who remain “in”. BAIL WHILE U STILL *CAN* :) Tory/Magoo

      • ThetaBara

        It’s truly astonishing! Just when you think you’ve heard it all…

      • Sydjazz

        Love your work tory xx. Just hope more people are brave like you and blow the joint :)

  • SandiCorrena

    A…MAZE…BALLS day at the Bunker! My WOWNESS stats are up up up!

    • Sherbet

      I couldn’t have expressed it better myself, Sandi.

  • dagobarbz

    Poor woman…nobody to turn to but a former landlady for help. That’s just sad. But, she pulled it in.

  • Jo

    When words fail, u can only wait till someone else f**** up.

  • Sherbet

    Nathan Baca, please call your dog in from the yard. Just in case.

    • KNMF

      No kidding.

      The balls on that guy…

  • cdub

    Politically, in my experience, some are far, far right. They at least believe Hubbard would support that kind of thinking.
    Another observation: people seriously in Scn for extended periods of time can think they live in some alternate universe wherein it’s just coincidence that their physical bodies are located in, say, the United States. By this point the laws we live under are somewhat hazy to them.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Re: Dave Newman. My ex-wife, Sarah Lorien Leslie, knew David Newman well. I don’t know if this is the same person as ‘Dave Newman’ mentioned in the article. David Newman was a writer, and dated Sarah. He supposedly did the full ‘Primary Rundown’ where you clear all the words in the study tapes first, then listen to them. That’s the course that supposedly makes you “Super Literate”. When I married Sarah in 1985, it was my impression that she had been with David Newman in the late 70′s and/or early 80′s.

    Re: The Sovereign Citizen or ‘freeman’ movement. In the late 1980′s there were a lot of scientologists interested in this, and negating the income tax as being unratified or illegal. A lot of complex and most likely unfounded theories there. I was interested too. This was when the IRS investigation was going full swing and the {church} expected them to try for a ‘jeopardy assesment’ legal move that would have seized all the assets and shut it down, prior to the legal issue being settled in court.

    This was when the {church} was actively setting up anti-tax groups and recruiting whistleblowers from the IRS through OSA to discredit the IRS. They floated a ‘flat tax’ movement and a lot of scientologists supported Ross Perot. They were trying to get congress to restrict or eliminate the IRS as part of their legal strategy to fight the IRS investigatiion. I knew a bunch of this because Sarah and I’s deductions were disallowed by the IRS and our case was bound to the decision of the ‘Hernandez’ case, which went to the appeals court after it was lost, where it was confirmed and the Supreme Court let the ruling stand. We had to pay a tax bill of over $11,000 for just two years.

    I went to a couple of the anti-tax/freeman meetings back around the early 90′s, one at a funky house full of law books out in Sunland or Tujunga or perhaps out further in the valley. This was a self-styled sovereign citizen and he has lots of literature on how to ‘de-tax’ yourself by declaring yourself sovereign and dumping your social security number and other ‘adhesions’ that made you a ‘subject citizen’ of the federal government.

    There was a legal type from OSA who was there with us and at a dinner later after the meeting he talked to the 4 or 5 scientologists who were there and told us that the theories this guy was selling were not what he said and they wouldn’t work, you’d wind up going to jail.

    So OSA knew this very well, as early as the late 80′s and early 90′s.

    There were a bunch of scientologists who insisted they were going to go this ‘sovereign citizen’ route. The {church either expelled them after comm-evs or just declared them. This was especially true after the “war is over” event in 1993, after which all the {church} support for anti-tax or flat-tax and whistleblowers evaporated leaving those who were involved twisting in the wind.

    In fact, the {church} provides the detailed records of each scientologists donations directly to the IRS without informing the scientologists. I found this out when I had to get some records from the {church} for my IRS tax return. The Treasury Secretary of AOLA told me, “They have all that already, we send it to them”.

    • TonyOrtega

      My mistake. Karen clearly said “Dan” Newman, but when I was updating the piece I mistakenly typed “Dave.” It’s definitely Dan Newman that Devon was married to.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Thanks Tony.

    • sizzle8

      “They floated a ‘flat tax’ movement”
      This was CATS – Citizens for and Alternative Tax System – which is a heck of a rabbit hole.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_for_an_Alternative_Tax_System
      http://www.lermanet.com/cats.htm
      http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-3241621.html

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks, Michael, for filling in this bit of history which is certainly not abundant in the history books. The political strings are buried as much as the financial strings and not easy to come by. Appreciate your detailed posts, always.

  • KNMF

    baca Baca BACA!
    That man is connecting the dots big-time. Scientology must really hate that guy.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Bedtime for us senior citizens. I am actually now afraid to open up tomorrow’s Bunker thread with my morning coffee. Should I wait for lunch? Okay. I know I can’t wait.

  • TonyOrtega

    No, don’t go to bed yet. Big update coming in a minute!

    • dbloch7986

      Just in time. I just logged on!

  • dbloch7986

    Giving this it’s own comment because I thought a new blog post was coming (misunderstood).

    I want to clarify. I do honestly think that this woman is still in the Sea Org. The reason being that Ex-SO are not allowed to work in Local Orgs.

    Additionally, if the woman is in PR, she works in the Department of Special Affairs (Dept 20, Division 7). Which also oversees legal matters.

    The Public Division is very different. They coordinate events and invite new people into the org. It’s not related to OSA in any way.

    The DSA handles all matters pertaining to the organizations relationship to the surrounding community, i.e. the org’s image.

    So I do think she is in OSA. I do think that this “operation” that she was doing is reflective of the church possibly trying to work it’s way into fringe anti-government subcultures. There’s no way this woman just happened upon a random anti-gov child molester and said “hey, come live with me and let’s overthrow the US government together”.

    There’s something fishy and sinister about this.

    • TonyOrtega

      I was told specifically, Derek, by someone who worked at the Las Vegas church that she was hired as PR under Div 6, not OSA. Also, there’s absolutely nothing in the police report about Scientology itself being involved, and it’s pretty irresponsible at this point to suggest such a thing.

      Also, our source specifically addressed your point about ex-SO and local orgs. He says it was known that she was ex-SO, but an exception was made because, apparently, they’re getting pretty desperate at this point. This was all explained in our first update.

      • dbloch7986

        Well i’m not officially reporting that and I wouldn’t expect you to either. But I’ll openly speculate about it. I think I’m permitted.

        If she was working in Division 6 then someone has her title very wrong. Public Relations and Division 6 are two very different things. For example, someone in or overseeing Division 6 would not be tasked with presenting a speech to a community organization as she did above.

        Division 6 is responsible for bring new members into the organization, not maintaining the image of the organization.

        The “Public Division” and the “Public Relations Section” are tasked with significantly different duties.

        I’m pretty familiar with the organization board. Familiar enough that I’d never get the PES and the DSA confused. I am seeing conflicting information.

        If she was the DSA, then she is directly connected to OSA. If she was the PES then she is not.

        Another red flag for me is that ex-SO are not allowed to work at local organizations and I have seen reports suggesting that she was assigned to LV Org by Sea Org management. If she was assigned there she was working as an emissary of the Sea Org. She would not have been offloaded from the SO and then placed on post in LV.

        Did Devon leave the Sea Org? Did she petition to join Class V staff, or possibly a Sea Org recruiting mission for the local org obtained special approval or an amnesty for her?

        She might still be a Sea Org member. If she is a Sea Org member working as the DSA then she is OSA.

        If she is just the PES then this story is just another bat shit crazy Scientologist.

        Those are significant questions, at least in my mind, that remain unanswered.

        So now you can see the dots in my mind that still need connecting.

        • TonyOrtega

          Derek, you keep telling me how you think things SHOULD be, and you keep ignoring what few facts we have of how things actually are.

          Please take another look at the first update. This is from a source who worked very closely with Devon Newman (unlike you). He says she LEFT THE SEA ORG because of a medical condition. Later, he was in Las Vegas, and saw that she had been hired there DESPITE BEING EX-SO.

          These directly address your concerns. And finally, our source, who was actually there, and saw it with his own eyes, says she was Div 6, not OSA.

          Again, I know how you think things SHOULD have been, but please stop wasting everyone’s time and let’s focus on the police report and how things actually were reported. This is how ridiculous conspiracy bullshit gets started, and we really don’t need that when there’s still so much to find out.

          • dbloch7986

            Okay, okay. I’ll settle my brain down. I missed that update.

            For the record, I don’t think things should have been any particular way. The entire Sovereign Citizen’s movement is based on bullshit conspiracies and so is Scientology…

  • TonyOrtega

    NEW BIG UPDATE — WE HAVE DOX: We’ve posted the 20-page arrest report and the criminal complaint.

    • q-bird

      TONY!!! You Dogged Task Master You!
      TYVM

      You are my most favorite newspaper man ever.

      Off to DOX!

    • sister wendy

      Tony, you are pretty amazing….

    • DuckBenway

      The Arrest Report mention of “Front Sight” Firearms Training in Nevada is interesting. Paragraph #4, page #3 – “Later, Newman talked about Front Sight, which is a commercial firearms training facility located in nearby Pahrump, Nevada. Both Newman and Brutsche said they were very interested in taking some firearms training from them.”

      Founder and Director of Front Sight is Dr. Ignatius Piazza, a known scientologist.

      Nothing wrong with Firearms Training Businesses, but I do have problems with ‘scientologists’ involved with running them.

      • ThetaBara

        Nice spade work.

  • Sherbet

    Insane. Especially Brutsche, but Newman is a close second.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    oh my god. I read the whole thing and call me crazy, or past my bedtime, but all I can walk away with is:

    1) Even in the midst of domestic terrorist meetings, plannings and detailed convections about kidnapping and executing cops, she still gets in a plug for Donations of Some kind like a a good scientologist.

    2) The speculation about Quentin Hubbard’s death in the desert being Too unlikely and bizarre doesn’t look so strange tonight…at all.

    • dbloch7986

      What is going on in my head, how in the hell did those undercover officers keep their cool. What in the living hell. It takes an amazing person to endure that.

    • sister wendy

      sounds like she is using her study tech too;) Making vocab lists;) And good thing she’s had any OSA training she’s picked up along the way so she can do a blind email;)

  • Artoo45

    How am I supposed to sleep after looking at that picture of Brutsche? Creepy, psycho eyes . . . and no, this probably has nothing to do with the cult other than its influence on Newman’s already damaged sense of morality.

    • ThetaBara

      If you look up “registered sex offender” in the dictionary you’d totally get that picture.

      • L.L. Cantare J

        A picture of a registered sex offender is helpful because it at least gives the hope of the mass of a registered sex offender. If you’re still feeling spinny or sort of dead, though, you’d better do a clay demo of “registered sex offender” to show you’ve got the mass.

  • TonyOrtega

    JUST ADDED: FINALLY, A RESPONSE FROM SCIENTOLOGY!

    • dbloch7986

      Boy they wanted to keep you and Nathan up late tonight!

    • Rachel Heidi

      Wow. Direct from the mouth of Miscavige… Well, after editing out the cussing.

    • Ruby

      That is about the lamest thing they could of said.
      Thank you for your continued reports on this thru the day, Tony!

    • Jvm3

      As to the church’s response, “Check out our FAQ” “We comply with every law” “We stopped that practice decades ago” “We discontinued that policy years ago” “We deny that” …. All their official replies are like they come off one of those web sound boards. Click a button for a cookie cutter quote.

      Thanks for the late night updates. Very much appreciated.

    • ThetaBara

      You never sleep, man! My west coast hat is off to you!
      See you tomorrow morning. ;-)

  • John

    Whenever I see Scientologist’s, I’ve driven through downtown Clearwater and there’s a church or org in my neighborhood, I’ve always seen them smoking. One of the images that always stayed in my mind after walking past their facilities was the people outside on the sidewalk smoking. So I was surprised when I read in this article that they pledge to give up tobacco. I read Lawrence Wright’s book and I thought he said that people in the church, I assumed within the Sea Org, still smoked Kool cigarettes in honor of L. Ron Hubbard because that is the brand he liked to smoke. Is this a rule that is just not enforced?

    The people I see smoking appear to be church employees, wearing black pants and a white button down shirt and when I was in Clearwater it seemed a lot of them had sunglasses. Anyways I have always associated low level Scientologist employees or Scientologist employees in general with smoking because of this and Hubbard’s Kool cigarette legacy.

    • TonyOrtega

      I corrected that statement, John. Do a refresh. Karen clarified what she told me, and said Devon Newman was someone who was used to smoking indoors, heavily. And going into the Sea Org, she would need to get used to smoking only on breaks, outside — and it can be tough to get breaks in the Sea Org.

      • John

        Oh, my bad. Thanks for the response. I hope I didn’t come off as trying to be critical of your piece. I am really just fascinated by how cigarette smoking is such a big thing in Scientology, it’s always struck me as very unusual.

        Also, thanks for all of the hard work and reporting that you do about the church. For a long time I’ve found the church and its inner workings very interesting and you’re really the only news outlet or journalist who consistently reports on matters relating to the church. I’m sure you have to put up with a lot of shit because of the work that you do, but you still report and that’s admirable. Thanks again.

        • dbloch7986

          I argue with Tony all the time and I always lose, but I never learn. Lol.

        • ThetaBara

          They are under so much stress, it’s hardly surprising they’d want to relieve it any way they could. Also don’t they make you less hungry? :-/

    • dbloch7986

      Hubbard actually wrote a policy letter that states that cigarettes prevent cancer because they relieve radiation poisoning in the same way that niacin does. He even suggested that quitting smoking is the reason that people get cancer.

      Oh the irony.

    • NeverIn

      Heh. I just went past our Ideal Org this week, and saw three things: ~10 cars in the lot, a woman sweeping out front, and a guy smoking out back. Both people were wearing white short sleeve button downs and dark pants.

    • sister wendy

      It’s really weird/sad about the smoking. Honestly, they could be getting support from Big Tobacco with all the smoking they do. Coffee and smoking are the only “ok” drugs to have- and they do indulge… Also with sugar and coke. In that way they are similar to the LDS missionaries I’ve run into (with the sugar)

      Weird, isn’t it? To be all about ridding the body of toxins and then all that smoking and caffeine. You’d think they’d be a little bit more 7th Day Adventist.

  • Synthia Fagen

    So the cult tried to use the question (unseen to the viewer) about Operation Snow White to IMPLY that Devon was one of those kicked out 30 years ago. They are such manipulative criminals. Truth is not in their vocabulary or arsenal.

    • filosofa

      The truth = scilon kryptonite.

      Evasiveness is all the Co$ have got. They can try to muddy the waters but all they’ve actually achieved by this response is to inadvertently alert those who might not know the full extent of the $cilons dirty dealings, is that their criminal activities reach back even that far. Anyone with anything other that the most superficial interest in this bizarre story might now get a little curious and check out what happened 30 years ago…

      Et voila – the shady details of “Operation Snow White” are out there on the interwebz for any who were not previously aware of it. The ineptitude of Co$ “PR tech” never ceases to astonish and and amuse.

      I’d like to say they’re their own worst enemies but that wouldn’t be true. The list of their Worst Enemies is growing exponentially – straight up and vertical!

  • Synthia Fagen

    Tony, this is some seriously excellent reporting.

    • KNMF

      …and relentless. The updating is epic, and on a Friday night. gonna donate.

    • 0tessa

      Isn’t all Tony’s reporting seriously excellent?

  • KNMF

    It is interesting that an across-the-board, nationwide increase in counter-terrorism funding and the implementation of specific law-enforcement programs to foil terrorists, has turned out to be a bad thing for Scientology.

  • NeverIn

    An active scientologist called a notorious SP for bail. The crime might not have gotten her kicked out, but surely this did!

    • Graham

      Yep- the “Church” has already dumped her if she’s having to appeal to a notorious bitter apostate SP for help.

      9am here in the UK. Just logged on to find Tony’s been VERY busy whilst we in Europe have been asleep.

    • filosofa

      When contacted re: bail I wonder if the remarkable Karen de la Carriere felt just the teensiest twinge of satisfaction that this scilon fruitloop realised that the “church” would throw her under the bus and Karen, an SP extraordinaire who has been treated so horribly over the years by them, might be a better option!

      Kudos for not responding, Karen – from a long-time admirer of you and your work.

      I’m astounded that that Devon Newman had the unbelievable nerve to even ask after all that the Co$ has subjected you to. More proof – as if any were needed – that scientologists are strangers to irony.

    • Sunny Sands

      Not doubting this, but Newman’s bail hearing isn’t until Monday. Wonder why Karen was getting a call before bail was set.

      • John P.

        One of several possible explanations comes to mind, but there may be others.

        First, Newman probably called the bail bond company immediately on getting arrested. The bail bond agent asks her for the name of a few people that might be able to pay the fee. Newman comes up with a list, including Karen De La Carriere. The bail bond agent wants to be able to show Newman that she’s got it covered, so that Newman doesn’t hire another bail bond agent. I am sure that bail bondsmen have a pretty good idea the range of bail that a given set of charges will involve — and a few calls done quickly to see if he has a shot at a fee likely to be anywhere from $30,000 on up (10% of the bail amount is typical) could lead to a really nice payday. Better to take a shot at a five-figure deal and lose it than just keep grinding out $100 here and $100 there raising bail for DUI’s.

        Second, given that Newman thought her rather naive “Tone 40″ request for the judge might result in her being able to walk on her own recognizance, she assumed bail would be $1,000, something like a drunk driving arrest where nobody actually got hurt. This bespeaks utter cluelessness of how the court system operates.

        Third, especially if she believes the bail would have been low, Newman may have actually figured that it was a good idea to go to an SP instead of to a fellow cultie on the theory that she could have somehow kept the details of her arrest quiet, and gone right back to work at CC Las Vegas the next day, helping the cult promote its rigorous ethics and advanced moral code. If she had gone to her boss to throw bail, she might have gotten sent to the RPF or something way worse than life in the Clark County Jail!

        • Unex Skcus

          Fourth, an SP would be more likely to have some cash…

    • sister wendy

      that is an amazing observation….

    • dagobarbz

      If I were a rapper I would totally steal ‘Notorious SP.’
      W3rd.

  • BananaSplits8

    I’m a bit confused about something: the police report doesn’t say if Brutsche ever got his hands on a gun. He and Newman said they were going to proceed “next week” but with what gun? Newman’s?

    You’re amazing, Tony!

    • Mary_McConnell

      If you look back, Brutsche says that Newman owns a gun but he was not sure what type.

      • ThetaBara

        She allegedly has a .32 – they tried to buy ammo for it at one point in the police report.

        • ze moo

          Brutsche was in violation of his parole when he moved in with Newman.

  • Sydjazz

    Love the statement from scientology. “Their office was disbanded” is that code for “they are still on the hole?”

    • Graham

      If I’m reading this aright I think it’s code for “Their office was closed down and immediately re-opened under a different name.” Guardians Office becomes OSA?

  • Wheres Shelly

    Media always connect fruitcakes and nut-jobs to the upholding of the Constitution because it’s the one thing in their way. Pretty soon they will outlaw the constitution and you’ll let them.

    • Dee Fogger

      Seriously or are you a Poe job?

    • Mooser

      Ah, that must be it! Good point! Okay, when they declare the Constitution unconstitutional, we’ll know the jig is up!

  • John

    In terms of them implying that she hadn’t been active in the church for years, it reminds me how they handled the Haggis situation and refer to him as not just a bitter appostate, but someone who hadn’t been active in the church for decades and who exploited a tedious connection with the church. I have a feeling they’ll do the same with this woman Newman, saying her connection to Scientology was “tedious” and that she hadn’t been an active church member for decades. This is pretty stupid by the church in my opinion because all you have to do to prove them wrong is dig up her tax returns and see where she got her income from recently and if it’s COS, there you go, once again you’ve got them stuck in a lie again.

    • Karen de la Carriere

      Here’s her current LINKEDIn page

      • John

        Yep, that’ll do it too. I don’t get this church at all, specifically from a PR standpoint. Most organizations would issue a statement saying “yeah she worked here” or “no comment” but COS just denies, denies, denies, and that creates an even bigger story than there was before.

        • aquaclara

          You’re right,John. The basic PR response to something this damaging is to just acknowledge the basic facts, or provide a “no comment.” And they cannot do that. So they just add to the story.

          If the same thing happens in a courtroom, I can only imagine the look on the Judge’s face. Let alone the jury’s….

          • Mooser

            “I can only imagine the look on the Judge’s face”

            I can only imagine the eagerness of a lawyer to really depose or cross-examine them!

            • aquaclara

              yes! almost as excited as we are!

        • sister wendy

          Here is a possible explanation. I have no idea if it’s true, but it’s the only way I can make sense of all the denials they continually spew out….see what you think.

          When Hitler was in the bunker in Berlin at the end of WW2, he claimed all the “good Nazis”, the people who really cared about the cause, were dead. He complained he was surrounded by weak characters and people who would betray him at a moments notice. He seemed to feel there was nobody left who cared or was courageous enough to do the “right” thing (be willing to take themselves out along with the enemy in order to defeat the allies). In a way, he was correct…most of his officers that hadn’t been killed or captured by that time could see he was and certainly most citizens in German cities were simply trying to survive. The people who were “faithful to the original Nazi” were already dead or had tried to escape. In the end, Hitler was left with people who were willing to negotiate and end the war (something he wasn’t willing to do). So in a way, although we would view these people as trying to survive and trying to do something that finally made sense to end the craziness of the war, his cries of “I’m surrounded by unfaithful cowards” makes a kind of sense for his crazy brain. The “good Nazis” were now gone, and if you were left, you were a substandard Nazi in some way.

          I think this is similar thought process the Sci-bot leader are applying, but in reverse. In other words, if you are IN the church, you are good and normal. If you do something to leave or get kicked out, then you were never really in to begin with.

          I wonder if the types of responses we keep getting from the church about people who leave reflect a similar type of thinking that Hitler was displaying. We are all “bitter apostates” simply by the fact that we HAVE left and we ARE complaining. If we were still in the church, we wouldn’t be bitter or lost apostles ;) To say someone like Marty: “Never worked here or filled a position of importance” can be viewed as the “truth” for them (even though it’s ridiculous to us) because insofar as he’s “bolted and flown the coup” he DIDN’T have a true position of importance as a theatan. Otherwise, he never would have left or done something to get kicked out. If he had REALLY been true to his office, his job, his calling, he never would have behaved the way he did by leaving, quid pro quo, he must have never really BEEN in his position.

          It’s a really whacked out way of looking at it, but it’s the only thing that makes sense. Obviously, there are records of EVERYONE having positions (Debbie Cook, Devon, Rathbun, etc) but they really weren’t those Big Beings, were they, if they went “crazy” and betrayed the organization. Because we are not our bodies, I think this might be the thinking that is employed that allows them to make such outrageous denials. It’s pretty crazy…but it is a crazy organization.

          • dagobarbz

            It is reported that David Miscavige doesn’t stay at Gold any more, because it’s “full of SPs.”
            Fifteen years ago he was already covering his water glass with cling wrap. The paranoia has progressed quite nicely since then.

            • sister wendy

              pretty amazing, isn’t it?

            • dagobarbz

              It is! And what’s cool is, with the exception of Anonymous, things are unfolding in a predictable, inevitable fashion.

              Fact: You can’t screw people over for 50 years and expect to continue doing it. Victims have a way of finding each other, talking, bonding. We’re at that stage now. Pretty soon all the exes are gonna activate their magic rings and turn into a giant flying fist that will falcon punch DM into the bozone from whence he first oozed.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Ouch. Thanks Karen.

      • aquaclara

        Great work, Karen. Keep dodging the bows and arrows (as well as the strange phone calls Tony reported in the update) that keep coming your way. Unbelievable back-story, and as I say that, I always find that the unbelievable = the believable in Scientology.

        You have a huge heart of gold. And I only know you from here. Thanks for all that you are doing…it is making a difference.

      • sister wendy

        Better picture at least. Ouch, that other one really hurts, doesn’t it?

    • L.L. Cantare J

      From the police report:

      “Newman also stated that her situation was dire and she needed to supplement her income because she is only getting social security. Brutsche said that he could move in with Newman and help pay her rent.”

    • Mooser

      “and who exploited a ‘tedious” connection with the church”

      As tedious (boring, tiresome, repetitive) as Scientology, the word you want for a distant connection is “tenuous” (a ‘tenuous’ connection with the church). Used in a sentence: Studying Scientology may cause your hold on reality to become tenuous.

  • disqus_0MHNN90X5s

    Does this remind anyone of ‘The Manson Family” ?

    • sister wendy

      Thank god, they seem to be too stupid to carry it any further…they certainly aren’t creative enough. Too busy “study-teching” their activities and gathering supplies, I think;)

    • Mooser

      Any organization in which people give up their own ethical and moral agency to a cult leader will be pretty similar.

  • Jvm3

    KTNV TV news jailhouse interview with Brutsche:

    http://www.ktnv.com/multimedia/videos/?bctid=2625550843001

    Sorry if this was posted earlier, I didn’t see it.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “Did you ever have an intention of killing a police officer?”

      Notice the Brutsche’s “comm lag” before he not really answering the above question at 00:28.

      Case closed. I understand the good intentions the offender/s might have, but oh the insanity of it all…

      I wonder if they had a bunch of foil hats stashed up somewhere too.

      • 1subgenius

        “Did you ever have an intention of killing a police officer?”

        Such a softball question, obviously leading to and inviting a vigorous denial.
        I am puzzled.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Lol I know, right?!

          It’s a little too late though, since UCE doxed it on audio and video.
          They were prepping to do just that – killing police officer/s.

          • Jvm3

            Those videos will be great

            • DodoTheLaser

              I hear you. Kudos to UCE Pros.

        • dagobarbz

          I would have to say yes, because she didn’t move her line out of the way when we were trout fishing and I had a big one on and crossed lines and mine went zing-powie!

          I coulda kilt her that day. Load her up with pockets of stones and send her down to Davey Jones!

      • Jvm3

        I’m friends with a couple of far-right libertarians and they all seem to share this bizarre thing about cops that is of their own creation. One of my buddies from HS racked up a couple of traffic tickets, then months later wrecked his truck on his neighbors garage. Later still, he’s pulled over again.. Speeding with a bag of pot in the truck. He was always late on the court fines and so they were always after him for money. By this time, he has a healthy distrust of cops and the court because they are always “harassing” him and “bullying” him. There’s some truth in that… It’s because he’s always acting like a moron and driving wrecklessly. Yes the cops target him and for good reason! They know what his truck looks like and he’s usually acting like an ass and breaking some sort of petty law. Luckily he’s not violent, but I can see how it snowballs from one arrest to many arrests to constantly being pulled over and on to a paranoid hatred of police.

        • DodoTheLaser

          “Yes the cops target him and for good reason!”

          ” It’s because he’s always acting like a moron and driving wrecklessly.”

          Exactly.

  • DodoTheLaser

    A few month ago, I did a professional course endorsed by US Homeland Security.

    It was about recognizing, deterring/preventing and handling various forms of terrorism.
    I learned a lot and received a certificate confirming it.

    What Devon Newman and David Brutsche plotted – DEFINITELY puts them in the category of domestic terrorists.
    Great kudos to LV UCE/Police Forces/SWAT for preventing potential tragedy for good cops and their families.

    The fact that at least one veteran scientologist was involved is less and less surprising to me at this point -
    it seems that radicals attract radicals, i.e. – Nation Of Islam, Scientology and now Sovereigns….

    Hoping the proper authorities will monitor things closely and act accordingly from now on.

    R.I.P. Scientology PR.

    • filosofa

      I’m sure the authorities must be keeping an eye on things. It would be an unforgivable dereliction of duty if they are not monitoring organisations like these, with their well-documented penchant for mayhem and extremism.

      “R.I.P. Scientology PR” made me lol

    • sister wendy

      how interesting! and what an interesting course that must have been. Thanks for that info and point of view.

    • dagobarbz

      ” Nation Of Islam, Scientology and now Sovereigns…” Kinda like the ARC triangle, without the ARC…

  • aquaclara

    Catching up on this HUGE story – incredible reporting, Tony. It just keeps on coming. The Complete pick-up in Gawker is impressive, and oh, the comments there are spot on, too. Commenters there know about this cult, and are following the details. It’s way too early in the morning for me to say this very well, but this seems huge. The COS is finally losing in the Court of Public Opinion, without question.

    The Church of Scientology’s response, delivered late, is missing both their normal shrill tone and made-up personal attacks. I think they’re slipping. Still, it covers the lying and deflecting basics that are their PR stock-in-trade.

    Incredible. So glad this was thwarted in time. Going back in for more….

    • DodoTheLaser

      Snowballs causing the avalanche indeed. At last.

      • aquaclara

        Snowballs!! And Davey thought his worst worries this week would be getting the damn tent up! The hailstorm just keeps coming.

  • Deeana

    Some clarifications from reading police reports and Tony’s updates:
    The arrested PR Director did not actually call Karen in Los Angeles directly herself. There were contacts made by a bail bond agency located in Las Vegas.
    Re: The house used for meetings and where the two defendants themselves actually physically attached boards with large eye hooks to the walls of a bedroom (in anticipation of handcuffing and shackling a police officer to them) was owned by law enforcement. One of the Undercover Officers presented it as being owned by his family.
    ——————–
    I’ve lurked here but never posted before. I am not ex-Scientologist but have read a whole lot of Tony’s articles over the years, plus blogs of many ex-members.
    Even as an “outsider” I get lots of laughs from some of the comments here. But then again, some of them I just don’t understand…. the ones where either it is jargon I don’t know or a “you have to have experienced it” type of thing.
    I kind of wanted to give you just one person’s sense of where a lot of the rest of the world is coming from on this. Up until now, I don’t think a great deal of the public knows much at all about Scientology. Probably a little more now than they used to, thanks to the TomKat divorce publicity. If this incident ends up to get Scientology and Domestic Terrorists even spoken in the same sentence, I think a whole lot more of the public will pay attention in the future.
    And it certainly would have to be true that this long-time Scientologist will be investigated as a Domestic Terrorist. The Dept. of Homeland Security will most certainly be digging into this woman’s connections, who she has communicated with, etc. This is what they do. It is their job to make connections. So if it is there, they will find it.
    Quite frankly, in reading the police report, they both come off as nut cases. BUT nut cases often end up to be the very people who do outrageous things. The undercover police were not messing around – they video and/or audio taped every meeting with them, and there were more than 30 meetings. So they have them.
    How much of this will stick to Scientology – who knows? But it can’t be good for business, now can it?

    • sister wendy

      wow- so good to hear- and good to get fresh “new” outside perspectives..People’s lives are so full, it’s easy to understand why this would get missed. It is a fringe group. I’m all for Indie-style and fringe groups…however, this one misrepresents itself, lies to the people involved, steals money, launders it and hurts families. I really hope as a non-profit organization, this one can crumble.

    • aquaclara

      Welcome to the posting world, here, Deeana! I’m a never-in, too. I’ve lived in both the belly of the beast (Clearwater) and in a state that doesn’t really have much knowledge of Scilons.
      Your comments are good ones…and I hope that Homeland Security will pay more attention than the FBI or the IRS appear to be…..I applaud the undercover police for their brave work in getting underneath the mess, and doing a solid investigation. It is good to see that they were not fooled.
      good to have you….hope you’ll post often!

  • chukicita

    Scn primes minds for ideas like ‘sovereign citizen.’ (ask any NDN how that soverignty thing is working for them…)

  • Nevermore

    I take a day or two off, and come back to this – excuse me, tons of reading to do!

    • sister wendy

      pretty amazing, isn’t it? I feel really out of the loop these days! So much going on!

  • phronsie

    By listing Karen among the potential sources for bail, could this be an attempt to tie Karen into something unsavory? Could this woman have been advised to link her name to Karen, to somehow smear Karen and infer Devon’s connection with an “SP” or an apostate played some part in her actions instead of the imbalance conveyed by her longtime involvement with this mind and morals warping cult?

    • Jvm3

      Wow that’s a long way to go. It’s probably more like she is desperate for money and thought Karen could help. A friend in need is a friend indeed.

  • David Rice

    I wonder which came first: the homicidal sociopath behavior, or the purchase of $cientologty brainwashing.

    • sister wendy

      Teufelkreis….one feeds on the other…chicken and the egg…

    • Snake Plissken

      Doesn’t Scientology claim to make the psychotic more psychotic? … or was is the able more psychotic?

  • sister wendy

    haha! Has someone mentioned this before? If you’re donating to Tony at the Bunker, let’s celebrate and do it on Thursday (your time zone) before 2 pm;) I would love to know what those stats are…

  • sister wendy

    Does it piss anyone else off that the church of Scientology continually tries to affirm they are a religion by organizing “interfaith”events? This makes me want to scream, and I’m part atheist.

  • Imagica

    Wow, that’s almost exactly what I thought the church would put. We don’t have an Org here in Reno but we have a “mission”… haven’t a clue what that is.

    • Dave

      A mission is five or fewer losers wandering around asking people if they want a free IQ test. Any more than that and you’ve got yourself an org.

  • Deeana

    “Sovereign Citizens” arrested in Las Vegas are a Sex Offender and a Scientologist.” Headline at laist.com.

    While none of this is a laughing matter and everyone is grateful that some innocent Las Vegas police officer did not lose their life to these two, somehow this headline sounds like the punchline to a joke!

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