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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Scientology surrenders — at least partially — in seven lawsuits against its rehab network

Ryan Hamilton

Ryan Hamilton

Here at the Underground Bunker, we’ve been keeping a close watch on Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton, who has filed eighteen lawsuits since January against Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon. Hamilton accuses Narconon of running a deceptive operation that promises drug counseling but instead subjects patients to Scientology training. In each case, Hamilton has sued a local Narconon facility in either California, Nevada, or Colorado, as well as two of Scientology’s umbrella organizations — Narconon International and the Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE).

Now, we’ve learned that in seven of those lawsuits, Narconon International and ABLE have been removed after quietly settling with the plaintiffs. The lawsuits remain active, meanwhile, because the local facilities have not settled.

Considering Scientology’s reputation for scorched-earth legal tactics and delaying maneuvers, it may come as quite a shock to some observers that two Scientology organizations, staffed with elite “Sea Org” workers, are cutting checks to quietly get out of these lawsuits.

Here’s the list of lawsuits that Narconon International and ABLE settled, and that will continue, at least for now, only against the facility where the alleged abuses occurred…

Bryan and Nikki Mott (Colorado)
Kenneth and Jered Mowery (Watsonville, CA)
Lori, Ryan, and Jillene Winchell (Nevada)
Charis Yates, Beret and Dean Pugh (Nevada)
Christy Estrada and Braden Chavez (San Diego, CA)
Monica and Sean O’Connell (Watsonville, CA)
Ronald and Jason McClure (Nevada)

We’re left with a lot of questions. If Scientology leader David Miscavige was willing to cut a check to extricate two of his entities from a particular lawsuit, why not write a larger check to get all three of them out?

One answer may have to do with the companies providing these entities with insurance. Our legal experts tell us that increasingly, as Narconon’s troubles have deepened — with patient deaths in Georgia and Oklahoma, and lawsuits piling up all over the country — the companies that provide liability insurance to these facilities are losing patience. We hope to have more about that in a future story.

For now, we can only marvel that Ryan Hamilton seems to be having so much success — and so quickly — where so many other legal attacks on Scientology have stumbled. Not only have none of his eighteen lawsuits been dismissed or even delayed, seven of them have already apparently paid off.

And with gold in them thar hills, could a rush of similar litigation from attorneys in other parts of the country be far behind?

 
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Narconon ‘halfway house’ in Clearwater? Not true, say our sources

Joe Childs has a new story at the Tampa Bay Times that finally, after two years, mentions the name “Kurt Feshbach” in relation to the ongoing fight over a Scientology rehab center in Florida’s Hernando County. If you’ve been following our stories about the conflict, you know that Feshbach’s company Toucan Partners owns the land where the Narconon rehab center is located, and Toucan and the rehab facility — Suncoast Rehabilitation Center in Spring Hill — had sued, claiming discrimination when the county refused to allow the center to expand.

A jury agreed, but then awarded only a token amount of money to the Narconon center and nothing to Toucan. Then, recently, an appeals court overturned the damages award and ordered it recalculated, and that task will go to mediation.

While that battle was going on, for some reason the Times never uttered Feshbach’s name in its reporting of the lawsuit, even though he’s a fascinating character. With his brothers Matt and Joe, the Feshbachs were notorious short sellers in the 1980s, and they were huge funders of Scientology, helping to pay for the development of “Super Power” processes in the early 1990s.

We still don’t know why the Times kept Feshbach out of its stories, but now his name did finally appear as Joe Childs is reporting that while that battle in Hernando County was going on, Feshbach’s Narconon purchased a former Baptist church in Clearwater for $950,000 in May 2013.

Why? Feshbach and the executives at the Narconon wouldn’t talk, but Childs says the former church is going to be turned into a “halfway house.”

That’s not what our sources tell us. We’re told that plans have been in place for more than a year to move the Narconon facility from Hernando County to Clearwater. In fact, the business offices of Narconon Spring Hill are already operating out of the former Baptist church, and the rest of the operation will move down once dorms and a sauna have been added to the facility.

So even as Scientology’s rehab fights for more money from Hernando County, it plans to ditch that location for Clearwater. (Something tells us Hernando County won’t be sorry to see them go, even if it does have to pay a larger damages award.)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 26, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Saturday 26th of July

    Today we reverse back to the complete daily list so that we
    can X-check our work from the last 2 days.
    Already I have discovered a bunch of Ads posted last evening
    that I missed completely, you will find them after the Daily List.
    Recovered ads:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-105#post-2473799
    Daily list:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-105#post-2473795

    RE-FLAG your Region & adopted Regions, and any of your pet peeves.

    Go, allez, avanti Ryan,
    Ty Baby

  • DodoTheLaser

    Reality: Scientology and its front groups enter not so Golden phase 2 – settlements and more PR control attempts. Heh.

  • Elar Aitch

    This is even better than a 19h lawsuit, but intriguing, yes. Look forward to some armchair lawyering and wild speculation on this one. Who’da thunk?!

  • hansje brinker

    You don’t need a purf these days: These lawsuits gonna make you sweat.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “She was sweating like RTC in a real church/court of public opinion, on its way to a federal court,
      escorted by IRS and FBI agents to address NAFC complaints”. Just saying.

  • Sergeant Pepper

    A little disappointing not to see the cherch savaged in court, but good for Ryan and his clients! Perhaps some details of the settlement will be revealed?

    • Tony Ortega

      These are not the kind of lawsuits that go to trial. What just happened was the church being “savaged.”

      • Sergeant Pepper

        Ah. I am pleased if the victims are satisfied. My vengeful side desires to see the cherch publicly humiliated. I agree this is great news! Thanks Tony for your persistence and insight.

        • Drat

          It does that itself every day. But fear not – more public humiliation is on its way.

  • John P.

    I am indeed surprised to see that the parent entities are settling. There has to be some ulterior motive, because Miscavige doesn’t simply give up and settle lawsuits (or parts of them) without putting up a hell of a fight unless there’s what he considers a compelling reason to do so. The only examples where Miscavige settled instantly that I’m aware of are in the Debbie Cook and Marrick/Arnold cases, where testimony was highly embarrassing to Miscavige or the prospect of dragging him onto the witness stand would have been a virtual certainty.

    While it’s certainly possible that the insurance companies covering ABLE and Narconon are pushing for a fast settlement, simplifying the cases deprives the cult of what I thought would have been a way to exploit one of the big weaknesses in this avalanche of lawsuits: the fact that they’re coming from a single law firm that could potentially be overwhelmed by tooth-and-nail opposition to every single detail in over a dozen different cases, particularly if Ryan took all these cases on contingency. Streamlining the cases by having some of the defendants settle means less work per dollar earned than if Hamilton had to slug it out with multiple defendants each protecting their slightly different interests.

    I would love to hear from the legal eagles in the community if this settlement tactic is an effort on the part of either the cult or its insurers to forestall Hamilton’s using these suits as a foundation for a massive class action suit. I’m not that well versed in class action law, since those sorts of suits rarely have much impact other than nuisance value on the types of companies I invest in at Global Capitalism HQ. But it occurs to me that once a viable class is created with tons of plaintiffs, discovery would become a lot bigger headache for the cult and the chance that something turns up to get Miscavige on the stand would increase.

    I’m a little (actually, a lot) groggy this morning after a lovely but very late night out at a five-star Manhattan restaurant with my favorite supermodel, so I hope this makes a bit of sense. I’m not caffeinated, so I’m not entirely certain it does.

    • aquaclara

      Also sans caffeine at the moment, but to me it looks like the biggest motivator is to avoid having the ABLE connection documented in court (the accreditation case comes up….)

      That case may well have given Davey the scare needed to go give his lawyers a checkbook and instructions for these cases….when he hadn’t even been paying attention to them all along.

      And that case is also the one where his insurers probably woke up,too.

      Based on that, I expect we will see more settlements in the Ryan Hamilton cases. Which, of course, is exactly what our Proprietor predicted early on.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        And is writing big checks an admission of guilt? I have to wonder.

        • Jgg2012

          No, but if you are guilty, the desire to get a confidentiality agreement signed (and the amount you are willing to pay for it) goes up. I wonder how much these people settled for (of course, we’ll never know)?

      • Cathy

        Wasn’t the ABLE connection already documented in Exhibit 17 from Mr. Ortega’s July 24th post?

        If not, I have an official ‘org board’ Command Channel Chart clearly showing where and how ABLE is directly connected, leading all the way up to Miscavige. A friend who worked with Miscavige for some time gave this to me saying , “Just don’t let OSA ever know you have it or they’ll….” Okay. I won’t.

        I mentioned Lisa McPherson at Narconon Chilacco and security descended on me like a SWAT team, saying I had to leave immediately. They were kicking me out on the street. I refused. So I was escorted to the Admissions office where Annie Mora, OSA Flag was contacted. She had to give oficial approval I could stay. How’s that for no Scientolgy connection? It’s ALL SCIENTOLOGY, including the paranoia. Why do they go to suuuch great lengths to try to prove there’s no connection? Because there is.

        That ain’t no alcohol and drug rehab. I know.

        And I have way more fun stories.

        • aquaclara

          You have very fun stories, indeed. Might be fun to send a copy of that doc to Ryan Hamilton….his address is on the filing.

          Oh, and your story. It’s a good one.
          Thank you for sharing it!

    • Graham

      “one of the big weaknesses in this avalanche of lawsuits: the fact that they’re coming from a single law firm that could potentially be overwhelmed by tooth-and-nail opposition to every single detail in over a dozen different cases”

      Perhaps that works both ways? If Slappy’s micromanaging all the many court cases that are on the table at the moment, could these settlements indicate that he’s buckling under the strain and having to prioritise which law-suits to focus on??

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        Now that it’s been proven to get at least a partial settlement in seven out of nineteen cases, you can bet that other law firms are studying Ryan Hamilton’s boilerplate of how to sue Narconon.

        • shasha40

          I sure as hell hope they do !

      • Once_Born

        Agreed. They have the money to fight every single one of those cases to the death using their usual scorched-earth tactics. However, they no longer have enough competent people to do this and, even when they can find outsiders unethical enough to play along, don’t trust them.

        The occasional set-piece legal defence is all they have needed for years to deter anyone from suing. Now this is no longer the case – and not only are the number of cases against them growing, but all of the people that used to deal with these annoyances have been purged.

        At some point, they are going to start making serious blunders – blunders which set precedents.

        • Graham

          “The occasional set-piece legal defence is all they have needed for years to deter anyone from suing.”

          Yep- Slappy the Punching Pope is in new territory now, and -as you say- he’s got rid of everyone competent and his paranoia won’t allow him to trust the bought-in wogs.

          Karma’s such a bitch :-))

          • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

            Yes but she’s fair. :) I wish David would bring back Helena Kobrin, that would be sweet!

        • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

          Word got out that David Miscavige is always up every lawyer ass he hires trying to pull their strings and David refuses to listen to the lawyers he hires, ergo some lawyers are not going to want to take him as a client, not unless they can get him to agree before hand to shut his freaken’ yip and let the lawyers do their jobs defending him.

          • Once_Born

            Yes… and as a result he has his pick of all the lawyers who nobody else would hire (because they aren’t any good) or those who are are willing to do anything for one last big payout before retirement.

      • John P.

        That’s certainly possible. However, I don’t think Miscavige has the self-awareness to know that he’s having a meltdown, given that most of his time at the helm of the cult has been an unending succession of flaps, disasters, embarrassments, imbroglios, etc. I suspect that, through a steady diet of denial, he’s managed to convince himself that he’s doing a great job and it’s just everyone else who’s screwed up.

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          If only there were some Scientology process that helps introspection…

          • shasha40

            Isn’t it true there’s no help for 1.1’s … Sorry tiny dick .

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Hubbard embedded the idea: Attack = Success. That is, the greater the attacks on scientology, the greater the success and effectiveness of what scientology was doing.

          I think that Duplicative Minion has absorbed this fully. He views every attack as proof that he is doing it right. After all, the more effective scientology is, the more the SPs scream.

          Taken to the illogical Miscavigeist extreme he is in a positive feedback loop, creating endless trouble for scientology and himself with his hands-on, “only one” attitude and yet viewing the results as validation for his efforts. It proves he is right.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        He may be focused on the felony indictments pending in Oklahoma. Those should worry him more than civil lawsuits.

    • Once_Born

      “[...] with patient deaths in Georgia and Oklahoma, and lawsuits piling up all over the country — the companies that provide liability insurance to these facilities are losing patience. We hope to have more about that in a future story”.

      I look forward to that one – if Narconon can no longer obtain insurance, it may be game over for that particular scam.

      Ifinsurance companies deem that their contracts are null and void because their client deceived them when obtaining insurance – that’s even better.

      To top it all, the NAFC is working on establishing a direct connection between the CofS and Narconon. In
      future, people harmed by Narconon may be able to sue the CofS directly, and make them pay.

      Perhaps the CofS is settling because someone has finally realised what a bind they are in, and they are avoiding court action in order prevent any more evidence of a connection between Narconon and the CofS emerging.

      That reminds me… I must bolt the stable door – I don’t want they horse to get out again.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        I’d love to see insurance companies file criminal charges for having been swindled or at minimum file civil cases to get their money back for all the medical fraud cases they stupidly paid off for.

        • Once_Born

          I know nothing about US medical insurance – in the UK there are only a few private companies that offer this.

          However, insurance agreements here are “contracts of absolute good faith”. This means that if any of the information you provide in an insurance proposal form is false, your contract is null and void, and you are on your own.

          I don’t understand why US insurance companies are so tolerant with Narconon. When I recently made an insurance claim I underwent an inquisition designed to find any difference between my application and the facts of the case that would allow them to wriggle out of paying (they didn’t).

          Why on earth did those companies insure Narconon on in the first place? Their ‘treatment’ is dangerous pseudo-science which can be effortlessly falsified. Apart from the obvious ethical problem (it was obviously going to kill people) they should have realised they were exposing themselves to an unacceptable commercial risk.

          Unless, of course Narconon lied in their insurance applications – in which case the contract is surely null and void.

          What am I missing here?

          • Jgg2012

            Note that the 2 defendants only settled with Hamilton’s clients–the insurers or the govt. can still go after them.

          • Chee Chalker

            You bring up an interesting point OB……I wonder if Narconon lied on their insurance application re: staff certifications. The recent avalanche of lawsuits against Narconon plus the NAFC suit may have proved to be the perfect storm. One Narconon could not survive, hence the quick settlements. IMO, the NAFC suit is more damaging simply because the plaintiff is not as fragile as say an addict. You just know the defense is going to drag those plaintiffs through the mud (how can you trust a drug addict?)….whereas NAFC is an independent entity that provides certification. The NAFC case is the one to watch, it will be fascinating to see what happens in that case.

          • Zana

            Also, they perpetrated fraud on a number of insurance companies. Perhaps that is something that Co$ does not want brought into a lawsuit and will pay to get rid of.

    • Mary_McConnell

      The whole purpose of the lawsuit for these victims is to get money back and maybe some extra for their trauma and the move on. They are not scientologists. These are people whose only interest is in helping their loved one and seeing that Narconon pays for what they did (or didn’t do as promised.) For as long as I have been involved in helping victims of Narconon, settlements are standard with Narconon cases that get at least this far. Most people, after exhaustive efforts, give up trying to get a refund. The lst resort was to sue and find someone willing to take the case. Some have filed Pro Se because they could not find legal help. It was very difficult to get any attorney willing to take cases because 1) it was not cost effective to take it on contingency fee, 2) people had no more money left to pay an attorney, and 3) the fear of suing a scientology entity was very high. Those days are over for a good percentage of victims who can document their complaint. There are many more victims out there whose case was not able to stand strong enough to take it to court. With the legal emphasis now being on the deceptive trade practice of hiding the fact that Narconon is Scientology, the door is opened much wider to victims to join in, if their case meets within the statute of limitations. But key to it all is that these people just want justice so they can move on with their lives. Good settlements make that happen. I am proud of each victim who settled. Godspeed to them all!

      • John P.

        I agree that these people aren’t trying to get rich individually off the cult and its abusive treatment of their loved ones in a moment of desperate need. These suits are not the battle-to-the-death like the Mosey Rathbun case, where there’s a lot of personal animus on each side. So the amount of damages is not likely to be $10 million in each individual case.

        But suppose that the damages sought are more like $250,000 per person, which would leave $150,000 to each plaintiff after paying contingency fees and costs to Ryan Hamilton’s firm. Multiply that times 20 and you’re looking at $5 million in legal exposure based on cases filed so far. And it’s virtually certain that Ryan Hamilton has more cases lined up behind this one. And when other attorneys see that Hamilton has cracked the code on extracting settlements from the couple of centers that he’s targeted, other attorneys will flood into the “market” for suing Narconon and the number of individual suits will mushroom.

        In other words, you’re exactly right that the plaintiffs don’t have an incentive to try to put the cult out of business; they just want to recover a fair settlement and move on. But given the slippery slope that appears to be getting under way with news that some of the slimy tentacles of the cult are settling quickly, the real question, which I was trying to highlight in my original post, is why the cult isn’t putting up more of a battle on each of these cases.

        The fact that the cases are all being filed by one attorney is an obvious place for the cult to fight back, by fighting cases tooth and nail and costing Hamilton any profits from his contingency fees by making the amount of time he has to put in on contingency economically unattractive.

        • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

          “And it’s virtually certain that Ryan Hamilton has more cases lined up behind this one.”

          People asking on Crackpots.Us about suing I send to Rambo’s NarCONonLawsuits.Com web site now. If only 10% of the people who get sent there actually qualify to sue the crooks, Hambo has a full docket going in to the next Century. :)

        • Moonshot

          Why is Miscabbage apparently surrendering early on these cases?

          I think it may have something to do with damage control and cost efficiency on his legal operations. The longer each case goes on, the more bad PR RTC/Mscabbage has to deal with. Also, the more they are collectively paying in legal fees. By ending each relatively early, the settlements are smaller and his legal fees are lower. This is a signal to Hamilton that he will get paid if he doesn’t go for the jugular.

          It may well be that Miscabbage has decided to cut off the dying limb that is Narconon. He has Billions in cash reserves and Billions more in Platinum plates of LRH Scriptures buried in various places.

          It may well be paying these early plaintiffs off while developing a strategy to bankrupt Nrcnn and firewall the rest of SCN is what is happening. In other words, it is a tactical retreat, rather than a surrender.

        • Jgg2012

          Right, Hamilton’s obligation is only to his clients. If they say “I need money now, I’ll settle for x amount” and he gets it, they settle. Nonetheless, his lawsuits help NAFC (and vice versa). The fact that these places lied about licensing shows they are a fraud (Hamilton can argue for punitive damages) and the fact that they don’t provide medical services adds to the ridiculousness of saying “we are NAFC licensed”.

        • Chee Chalker

          I’m looking forward to the ‘have you been injured by Narconon?’ commercials. (Think asbestos/transvaginal mesh litigation). Ah, David Miscavige….did you ever think of the day when your name would be connected to ‘transvaginal mesh’. LRH tech at work!

          • Mary_McConnell

            As Graham Berry wrote on Facebook today , it may just be an insurance related decision “Narconon
            is being defended by the Las Vegas office of the Los Angeles based
            Lewis, Brisbois, Bisgaard & Smith law firm where I was a capital
            partner at one time. Its core practice is representing insurance
            carriers. Clearly, Narconon has a liability insurance
            policy which provides coverage for negligent conduct. Most simply put,
            such policies often contain a provision that permits the insurance
            carrier providing a defense to settle the case without the consent of
            the insured (in these matters Narconon). That is probably what is
            occurring here. Furthermore, causes of action such as intentional
            misrepresentation (or fraud) are not covered by insurance which could
            leave Narconon exposed to liability beyond its insurance coverage. If
            Narconon resisted the insurance carrier settlements the insurance
            carrier could possibly respond withdrawing the defense and paying the
            balance of the policy proceeds to Narconon which would then defend the
            case itself. If the cases went to trial they may result in verdicts that
            exceed the amount of the insurance coverage-thus giving David Miscavige
            a further reason not to resist the settlements. In addition, it would
            not surprise me that the insurance carrier either declines to renew
            Narconon’s insurance coverage, substantially increases the premium rate,
            or excludes coverage for future claims of this nature. Finally, the
            Church of Scientology delights in claiming it will litigate forever
            rather than pay “one thin dime” to a litigant or in satisfaction of a
            court judgment. A settlement and payment by the insurance company allows
            the ‘church’ to maintain this defensive posture and deterrent.”

            • Chee Chalker

              Bingo! Thanks for sharing this Mary….it all makes sense now

        • J. Swift

          Too bad E. Stuart Mills represents the Church. This will keep him out of the upcoming gravy train of Narconon lawsuits. Mark my word: We will soon see daytime televisions ads with a bespectacled attorney in a suit staring into the camera while asking viewers:

          Have you or a loved one been hurt by Narconon? We can help! Call 1-800-SciFraud today.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        Hambo is also asking the courts to injunct Scientology to force them to stop committing these crimes, at least during the asked-for trials. It shows the law firm is at least concerned about the on-going human rights crimes and deadly quack medical frauds and wants to get the courts to halt Scientology’s behavior.

    • Silence of the Clams

      We don’t know what the settlements entail but I don’t think it matters. What I find so interesting about this surprise move is the glaring reality of what this means publicly. First, most people will say, “they settled…guilty”. Secondly, the chum just got thick in the water and there is no way this isn’t going to get around in the legal circles. Why do this?

      I think the speculations have been well considered here at the Bunker. The ABLE connection is definitely playing a role but again, Mismanage has set himself up for an avalanche of suits (poor wittle daevy). Puzzling.

      After many years of watching this soap opera play out, this strikes me as a significant turning point given the volume and speed of the settlements. It means something – and something important – we just don’t know what it is yet. Could any of the OT’s use their superpowers and fill us in on what is going on?

    • TX Lawyer

      In response to this:

      “I would love to hear from the legal eagles in the community if this settlement tactic is an effort on the part of either the cult or its insurers to forestall Hamilton’s using these suits as a foundation for a massive class action suit.”

      I have no idea why the parents might be settling, and nobody knows whether they’re paying serious dollars to go away. But while my initial reaction was that there was no chance of a class action ever being certified due to the preponderance of individual questions (i.e., what was each class member hooked on, how did they respond to high temperatures and vitamins, what was their outcome, do they see the deeper meaning in Mission: Earth), I don’t think it’s crazy. A class of former patients who were collectively deceived by the same fraudulent representations, and who were all harmed in the same way (by paying for Narconon’s services) might actually make it to class certification.

      I can’t imagine how settling these lawsuits would realistically impact a class action, however.

      • Mary_McConnell

        I agree about the Class Action matter. It’s been known for some time within the circle of active critics and the attorneys who take these cases, that Class Action cases are very restrictive. There are commonalities in these cases mostly unique differences. Class Action, IMHO, is a compromise for the victims to sue on just one or two central causes while forfeiting the right to sue for other causes they may feel equally worthy of being claimed. The GA fraud Class Action is a good example. Some experienced severe negligence, others didn’t. Negligence was not a claim in that case.

        However, a Class Action would be good for those who just fell within the the general claim of fraudulent reresentation or deceptive trade practices. This would be a change to get a refund.
        Plaintiffs generally don’t receive as much as they would in an individual case.

      • Once_Born

        Perhaps its time to consider the possibility that the CofS is now simply reacting to each event as it happens. The reason you can’t understand their tactics is that they no longer have any.

        Because Miscavige is currently concerned about the NAFC action leading back to him, lawyers have been instructed to settle so as to prevent any more information emerging about the corporate structure. Tomorrow, he may have other concerns – so those will be addressed without reference to a coherent overall strategy.

        Scientology has taught Miscavige that you don’t have to be consistent. He has always been able to order one thing today and something completely contradictory tomorrow. It’s up to other people to make it at least appear to work.

        This attitude has worked in the past because the CofS have faced very few legal cases and their scorched earth approach did not have to be coherent – it only needed a lot of time and money.

        Now that they do have to formulate a strategy, they are showing themselves incapable of doing so. Miscavige fundamentally does not understand how the law works – but thinks he does.

        • Chee Chalker

          “order one thing today and something completely contradictory tomorrow” …..and on the third day blame the entire thing on someone else

      • Dorothy Gale

        When these cases settle like this- does it mean that NarCONon can simply pay money and continue on- business as usual- same old fraudulent practices? At what point in the legal process is NarCONon made to change/stop hurting and lying to people?

        • TX Lawyer

          When cases settle, it is almost universally without any admission of wrongdoing by the defendant. You pay your money and you walk away. The point in the legal process where people are made to change/stop hurting people is most commonly known as “bankruptcy” or, in severe cases, “prison.”

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        “…do they see the deeper meaning in Mission: Earth…”

        ROFL! Chemtrails! CHEMTRAILS!

    • Observer

      It’ll be interesting to see if NarCONon disappears from COB’s frenzied cataract of Shermanspeak during Big Events (assuming that the Big Events don’t dry up).

      • stillgrace2

        Excellent point … with enough insiders leaking information, we’ll discover if that happens.
        Can’t wait.

    • subsilentio

      I agree with your first paragraph. It is in Scientology’s nature to insist on “global settlements” of all issues, because they generally want litigants completely out of their hair. If they are deviating from their usual pattern, there is some reason for it, probably nefarious. It may be they’re just hanging the locals out to dry, or it is part of some scheme to derail Ryan Hamilton’s activities.

      In either event, someone is getting screwed. I’m just not sure who exactly.

      • Elar Aitch

        Agreed subsilentio – I’m reluctant to celebrate too much as I suspect there is an unpleasant twist yet to come.

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      Hambo is also asking the courts to issue injunctions against Scientology to force them to stop committing these crimes and abuses, these outright quack medical frauds. If it goes to trial, a Judge would need to be asked to issue injunctions and the crime syndicate doesn’t want that.

      Funny watching the dwarf throw his henchmen small-time crooks under the bus, no bail-out checks for the small time crooks.

    • mimsey borogrove

      I think they want to keep the connection between Narconon int, and ABLE and ultimately CSI and RTC off the table. Plus there’s the KSW viewpoint to consider – the local Narconon pulled it in by personal out ethics or non-standard delivery. So it is up to them to take responsibility to make the suit go away.

      If that is the case, (cutting the connection between the local NN and NN int) and the local NN’s get bankrupted, the whole suing machine stops. They IMO, don’t want the cash pipeline from the local NN and to CSI or RTC to open up.

      If you think about it, this is how they handle refunds routinely in Scientology: PC A buys auditing from org X, the cash exit’s org X and goes uplines never to return. PC A want’s a refund. The local org X then siphons cash off their future GI to pay the claim. The cash does not come down the pipeline to org X to pay off the refund.
      ( KSW – a Scientology policy that states Scientology works 100% of the time if applied correctly) (GI = Gross income – the cash that the org pulls in each week by 2 pm Thursday)
      Mimsey

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        “So it is up to them to take responsibility to make the suit go away.”

        That incentives the local crooks to rat out David, though. I expect that David is working under the table to send money to the underlings quietly so it can’t be traced (or so he thinks.) I would not be surprised that David throws his small-time henchmen under the bus but they could easily rat him out if they get angry at being stabbed in the back.

      • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

        “They IMO, don’t want the cash pipeline from the local NN and to CSI or RTC to open up”

        Makes sense. In Canada, there was talk of the local narCONon going bankrupt (rather than paying a settlement without a confidentiality clause). However, the parent organisations going bankrupt (other than CSI which is being thrown to the wolves in Texas) is not an attractive scenario, so if the parent organisations can be taken out of the lawsuits before the stage of “we’d rather go bust than settle” is reached that’s a good thing (for the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology).

    • Jgg2012

      John, what you are seeing is rats leaving the ship. First the insurers say “we’re not defending this.” Then the local Narconon says “we were just taking orders.” Narconon and ABLE paid for their silence. Now, CSI is going to have to explain why it thinks Narconon is the best drug rehab in the world when it isn’t even a legitimate one. OK, that’s done. Well Scientology, you lied about Narconon–whose going to believe you in the Decrescenzo lawsuit? Or any other lawsuit.

    • J. Swift

      Miscavige and his craven wog lawyers settled these Narconon cases because they knew they would lose these cases if they went to court.

      Why would Miscavige want any damaging evidence of an interstate conspiracy to be in any court record, particularly when it all leads to him? The Cult didn’t even want pretrial litigation in which it could try for its usual summary judgment and diversity tactics.

      The sham legal structure and inherent unconscionability of the Scientology Crime Syndicate is becoming more and more exposed.

      Scientology is only one entity steeped in fraud and bad faith. However, Scientology pretends to be a series of legally separate corporate entities when it is in fact just one business scam divided into a series of sham sub-licensees.

      This is why it is so important for the Cult to lose its 501(c)3 status and thereafter be tossed into a bankrupting legal hell in which David Miscavige and his lawyers are, hopefully, carted off to prison for the rest of their miserable lives.

      David Miscavige: You can run but you can’t hide. The bloodhounds are after you.

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Silly Scientology! Everyone knows that when you cut heads off of a hydra, you have to burn the stumps or two more heads will sprout for each one cut off.

  • Elar Aitch

    I wonder if the settlement was offered to all but knocked back by the others?

    • rom661

      Interesting question.

  • Narapoid

    Wow, this quick cash settlement will just ring the dinner bell, won’t it? This seems too easy…

  • Jeb Burton

    This should open the floodgates for more lawsuits. Kind of like when you play the Electric Slide in a bar, and the middle aged, bleached blondes stampede to the dance floor.

    • Elar Aitch

      Hey Jeb – you have been missed!

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT: for the thousands of eyeballs who missed it recently on the Bunker, a Bunkeroo (thdnExist, iirc) posted a link to the march of The Three Bunkerteers to $cientologyland, New York City Org. It’s too good to miss. The Underground Bunker proprietor and the maestro of Operatioin Clambake, Tony O and Andreas Heldal-Lund., for Movie Night at Scientology’s New York Org! Repost: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/08/scientology_andreas_heldal_lund_new_york_org.php

  • aquaclara

    These are cases numbered 4, 6, 8, 10, 11,13 and 14.
    And the cases go on for the local NN facilities all across the board, so good for the families and for Hambo. And these could result in the closing of the local NNs, plus potentially suits 19, 20, etc.

    It is stunning how many cases are going on right now-just think of Davey having to word-clear and clay model all those legal documents. There is not enough scotch in the world, Defeated Moron. So take your study tech and shove it.

    I look forward to the day the insurance companies refuse to cover NN facilities. Which should be, uhm, about now.

    Hambo for the WIN.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      I hope that insurance companies are also carefully reviewing any charges against patient coverage for Narconon’s tweaked fraudulent claims. (e.g. sweating in a sauna charged as “group therapy”.) Simplest would be to disallow any Narconon charges.

      Important reminder (refresh):

      • aquaclara

        Good point. The billing company that was referenced in one of the contracts- I seem to recall may have had a clam connection, perhaps.

        So billing….insurance….claims for “treatment”….I wonder what lies under that boulder?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I’ll take Massive Fraud for $500, Aqua.

          Mat Pesch gave everyone a real taste of the Moar Money insanity. There has always been fraud and some kind of twisted, criminal new schemes on GI (gross income) lines.

          That is because of Hubbard’s and now David Miscavige’s megalomaniacal greed. Every week an org has to offer up more than the last. Every week. And if those increases stay at minor increments, a mission is fired and sent off to see Who is keeping it at low level trends and a bunch of people are penalized with RPF or whatever fun some sadistic bastard dreams up.

          It is in fact impossible to comply, so regges that aren’t too bothered with scruples come up with illegal schemes. They are rewarded and praised until someone gets caught, then the RPF or whatever and management claims they are shocked, shocked! Then the next sales team starts this madness all over, until they can no longer keep coming u with Moar so they get this great idea, see…

          In the case of Narconon, you have drug addicts feeding money addicts. What could go wrong?

          • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

            They hire criminals since they know that criminals with criminal histories will do what they’re told and obey orders to commit crimes.

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          I mean the insurance companies of the people that go to Narconon (patients/students/victims). Narconon took the list of standard insurance billing codes for procedures, and mapped their own snake oil treatments to it in a completely dishonest way, so that they can charge for just about anything, if the insurance company doesn’t examine it carefully.

          I believe Eric Tenorio‎ and Lucas Catton described some of that here.

          For billing codes that required a doctor’s approval, Narconon Georgia was forging approvals from doctors who no longer had nothing to do with them. (Outrageous that there were no criminal charges from that!)

          Narconon of Georgia and allegations of insurance fraud January 31, 2013, Pete Combs, WSB Radio

          • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

            Yet, the felony indictments are still pending in Oklahoma, they may include those crimes as well.

            • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

              The Grand Jury deliberations are supposed to be secret. It’s a good thing Scientology doesn’t do any of the Snow White bugging, burglary and break-ins any more. (But do they do it any less?)

      • rom661

        I’m neither an attorney or an insurance expert but as a 30 year business owner, it is my impression that fraud is not covered. Just saying….

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        I am blatantly and unashamedly stealing this!

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          You can’t steal what’s given.

          Of course, both of those can stitch you up pretty good…

      • Once_Born

        When I was little, my Granny used to keep one of those locked up in her back bedroom.
        It was years before they arrested her for kidnapping and false imprisonment.

    • Graham

      “just think of Davey having to word-clear and clay model all those legal documents.”

      As Davey apparently has never been audited for years, I’m guessing he doesn’t bother with any of the other “tech” either, so I can’t actually imagine him word-clearing or clay modelling anything. In fact there seem to be very few examples of $cienos using the tech to solve any real problems (Classic example being Her Royal Imperial Governor of the Valley using wog specs to correct her eyesight instead of ‘postulating’ 20/20 vision).

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      “4, 6, 8, 10, 11,13 and 14.” There’s our Lottery numbers for the weekend…!

  • shasha40

    All I can say is , Ryan Hamilton , You DA man ! Wow! What an Excellent way to start the day ! Continued Good Luck in your ongoing cases , maybe the families can get real help for their loved ones now. TD , how you doing this Fine, fine morning ? We’re having celebration party in the Bunker , wanna come ? Bahahahahaha! Tick , Tock…

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Went to bed last night pondering about this halfway house, since this has never been done. Also happy to see Feshbach’s name exposed as making profits on human misery, fraud and a virtual death machine.

    As for settling, did I not say DM would start dumping Narconon and throwing the closest minions under the bus or leaving the local facilities stranded and twisting in the wind?

    Why shouldn’t he? For one thing, there are too many puppets in this show that are not so controllable or predictable. They aren’t veteran, pounded in the head scientology staff but rather recent patients which aren’t even called patients but students.

    David Miscavige just is not that into you, Narconon. This old cash cow has now started kicking and digging into that 70 to 85% profit margin threshold. He’s rid himself of scientological nonsense. He has his IAS whales. That’s where the real profits are so why should he bother with all these other annoying, costly piss ants? Then there’s the scary insurance giants and that’s when cowards run and leave the rest to swim or sink.

    I think Dave has caught the retirement fever. If he already retired and is just living off interest and the whales’ IAS hundreds of millions they throw at him each year, would anyone even notice? All he has to do, and all he has done really, is show up for a few hours a few times a year at some event. He’s gotten rid of or stuffed down in his slave camps anyone who might have taken him on years ago. And then there’s the other lawsuits looming over the horizon. No wonder he hides.

    I think mass payoff check signing is as clear a sign as you’re going to get.

    http://i.imgur.com/YDzOA4w.jpg

    • Richard Grant

      THDNE, I think you’ve nailed this thing with Dave and the Whales (which might be an okay name for a retro surf band, firmly planted in the early 60s like so much else in the cult). It’s just so much easier to squeeze money from a manageable number of mega-donors than to run a whole circus of smaller cons — especially that tiresome business of selling books and courses to fresh meat.

      But of course this lazier strategy has its drawbacks too: there aren’t so many whales left to hunt, and Dave still needs to put on enough of a show to persuade these people they’re buying into something big and exciting.

      The idea that Dave could retire and no one would notice is funny and insightful — but I don’t imagine HE sees it this way. I think John P is right in saying that Dave believes he is doing a great job managing one crisis after another while everyone around him is screwing up. I’d speculate that Dave may subconsciously be trying to lessen his stress-load by settling legal cases, letting far-flung orgs slide into bankruptcy, refusing to knowledge problems like critically low staffing levels and an increasingly rebellious and disaffected field, and even slacking off on the fair-gaming of defectors and dissidents.

      Maybe he’s not up to fighting on multiple fronts anymore, or maybe he’s lost so many competent lieutenants that he couldn’t do it if he wanted to.

      I feel like we’re witnessing the end of Scientology and that it’s happening mostly in subtle ways that require a trained eye and careful observation to discern. There may be an explosion or two coming up the road, but for the most part I expect it will play out quietly in bits of news like this one — a few checks written, a few more “enemies” paid to go away. So I agree wholeheartedly with your last comment: this is about as clear a sign as we’re going to get.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        True about Davey looking in the mirror and seeing a mighty warrior CEO hard at battle, rather than a used up tyrant getting aches and pains like anyone else and creaking as he stumbles out of bed. I suppose sipping scotch under a southern gazebo playing band director to his legal orchestra could be his idea of a splendid retirement hobby.

        As to any whale shrinkage, remember these are veteran whale pods – whole families now in 3rd generation. All he needs to keep on a leash is a Cruise here, a Cartwright there, a Duggan everywhere and maybe a dozen children of lesser pods. We’ve seen DM now even throwing some of the whales out and the beginnings of whale vs whale smack downs.

        I believe there is a major flaw in Dave’s whale strategy that he is invariably blind to in ways that will cost him the one asset he doesn’t have and can never own. In fact, all this money and building hoarding just may be his childlike substitute for what he can never have. No, OSA, I’m not revealing. Ask your whales:)

        [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Eortqph.jpg?1[/IMG]
        Picture by Tom Hussey

        • Chee Chalker

          Height? Realistic but indiscreet lifts for his shoes??

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Standong on bathroom soapbox, of course!

      • chukicita

        I get the feeling they’ll fall back on the old name-change and corporate structure interpretive dance. Dave doesn’t know how to start anything new. KSW means there can be no innovation. It’s just reshuffling the dominos until they all fall down.

  • Cognited and Out

    Anyone follow the money trail on the payouts? Does Narconon or ABLE have that much, or are the settlements being paid out of the IAS slush fund?

    • Anonymous

      1) To the outside world, there are dozens of piles of Scientology money, each one independent and unconnected to another. This is the de jure “reality” that the byzantine corporate structure of Scientology is designed to project.

      2) On the inside of the organization, all monies are ultimately under the authority of the Sea Org, of which David Miscavige is the senior leader (and only non-brevet Captain.) This is the de facto reality.

      The plaintiff attorney beehive is working to meld items 1 and 2 above into a single reality so that the church and its leadership can no longer perpetrate self-serving, broad atrocities without broad (and in some cases, personal) liability.

  • NOLAGirl

    Wow, leave for one night and a party breaks out. I have a lot of reading to do.

    Morning Bunker, hope everyone is well. :)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Mawnin’…

  • sugarplumfairy

    “And with gold in them thar hills, could a rush of similar litigation from attorneys in other parts of the country be far behind?”

    oh, let’s hope not.. Keep ‘em coming..
    Ryan Hamilton must have been a scientologist in another life..

  • Ian

    Can any legal experts shed some light on this:

    Can the fact that the two umbrella organization settled in these cases be used in other cases to fight the claims that the umbrella organizations are not involved / know nothing about day to day running, etc? Because that is scientology’s legal playbook, try to argue that it is the lowest level that is rogue, than nothing above is aware or at fault. It would seem to me that this would undermine that, if it was admissible in the other suits.

    • Elar Aitch

      IANAL but suspect a settlement is not an admission of anything. Perhaps the settlement is about not allowing testimony that might make inconvenient connections, especially with the so far terribly well executed action by the NAFC

      • Ruby

        Oddly, I agree with both of you. Seems it is an admission of connection, yet not total responsibility for the on the ground actions. So they pay their small portion and let the narconon fend for itself. At the same time, take away the opportunity to show the rest of the connection to RTC and the captain.

  • Missionary Kid

    Correct me if I’m wrong. My question is, why some NarCONon facilities, and not others? Possibly it’s because the rest of the lawsuits are just being negotiated.

    As far as the facilities themselves are concerned, none of them have settled. Why not? Are all of them represented by the same insurance companies? Are the insurance companies just slow to settle?

    Of course, I’m interested to know the amount of the settlements.

    • Hamtaro

      Those are all excellent questions. This very surprising news of partial settlements is like an iceberg: the part we’re seeing is very small compared to the unseen (and therefore unknown) part. It does occur to me that Scn has now removed the two deep pockets defendants and left only the comparatively poor local Narconons in the suits. Depending on the settlement amounts, this could be perfectly fine or it could be not so fine. Hopefully, we’ll find out more in the future.

      • Missionary Kid

        There’s a lot to be learned, but I’ll bet there’s some heavy non-disclosure agreements that go along with them. We may never find out.

        There is the prospect that Co$ got some dirt on the plaintiffs or plaintiff’s attorneys, too, and are forcing them to cave. I hope not.

    • rom661

      It’s possible that if, as I postulated earlier, the insurance companies don’t cover fraud and the actual Narconon facilities don’t have the financial wherewithal to made a deal, that is the reason. Total speculation on my part. That would involve Miscavige saying screw the local organizations, hardly a shock.

      • Missionary Kid

        The insurance companies for the facilities will have to pay out, then go after the facilities for the money.

        In the mean time, they could cancel their coverage or boost their rates to an impossibly high amount. Neither prospect will be good for any N-CON facility.

        • rom661

          Unfortunately, I have experienced this in the form of an 11 year long lawsuit as a defendant. Fraud was alleged, largely due to an issue with the contract. I won on all counts, got judgment against plaintiff and against my original lawyer but my insurance company refused to be involved at all because of the fraud allegation. If there were other issues involved, perhaps. This was in regard to the sale of a business.

          • Missionary Kid

            Insurance companies basically do what they want. Then you try to get your money out of them. Fun, huh?

            I hope that they’ve basically told co$ that they’re not going to aid them in defending them.

            • rom661

              Yeah, fun. Spent 400K on lawyers and the plaintiff was on a contingency arrangement with his lawyer. Filed bankruptcy the week after the 3 week trial ended.

              I’m guess you’re right. And Tony, occasionally these things do go to court. It’s not common and no one believed this one ever would but….

  • Captain Blackheart

    Aaaarrrr! What’s with all the merriment amongst yer scurvy infected crew today? Ye run a few shots across me bow, have a parlay, get a few settlements and you think you can blow a man down? Blimey, ye must be three sheets to the wind!

    I’ll swab the deck with the lot of ye with me new strategy. I’m going to have every one of me crew working at Narconon take the new Narconon As Religion Course (NARC) and have them all wear minister’s collars. That’s sure to fool any land lubber judge insane enough to think about tossing Narconon into a watery grave. Only a genius captain like m’self could design such a glorious plan. It’s proof I’m a fool…aarrr…I mean foolproof.

    I’m not even payin’ these settlements, they’re comin’ from me Pillage Liability Insurance. I’ll not let that mangy cur, Ryan Hamilton, or any of his scallywag plaintiffs plunder me booty. Not now, not on the morrow, and not ever as long as me matey, Tom, is down here protecting me poop deck. Aaaarrrr!

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      But Captain Miscavige, soon ye shall be stripped, tied to the mizzen mast, flogged, salt cast in to your wounds, and then be publicly buggered by every mate in the fleet, including the forge smith, which ye’ll note has a “swagger stick” twice as long as ye arrrrr. :)

      • Gus_Cox

        Aaaaye, there be a shit storm ‘a brewin’. There’ll be blood runnin’ oot o’ the scupperrrrrs, arrr.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Okay, one thing doesn’t make sense to me about this former Baptist church turned into a Narconon. This is too close to Flag. If this facility was to appease some whale’s request, a place they could send their friends or associates, they know all too well the temptation for the sales sharks will be too great and they will be bombarded. And it’s always been a rule to keep Narconon physically located at a distance from the scientology orgs to keep the appearances up, as in, no we’re not scientology, no sir. And to do this now with so many lawsuits, just didn’t add up.

    Is it possible this facility is going to be used for Flag staff and/or outer org trainee staff and maybe even aging staff who are being put out to pasture?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I think this is part of the inevitable constriction of the Church of Scientology. We are seeing it before our eyes.

      My question: Will the Last Stand be in Florida or California? Flag or Gold?

      • ze moo

        Land values are very high in Los Angles, more money to be made selling off the Cali properties. I’d bet on Florida being the last refuge.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Flag, definitely Flag. My 2 cents, but Flag is the whale’s private country club and therefore, hallow ground.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        I vote for California, Florida laws are dimwitted, at best, whereas California courts should be able to put the ringleaders in prison when the time comes.

  • rom661

    To quote Peter Gabriel “Here Comes the Flood”.

    • Espiando

      Scientology’s normal defense also comes from the work of Mister Gabriel: I don’t remember. I don’t recall. I have no memory of anything at all.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        And Hambo reminds me of “Sledge Hammer.” :)

        • Elar Aitch

          And now he has a theme song.

  • Espiando

    So there is capitulation. Is there also culpability? Is there any way to spin this in other cases to admit connection between NN Fill In The Blank, NN Int, and ABLE Int? If so, the trousers are down, the asshole is greased, and here comes Hambo’s Steely Dan.

    I’m getting a boner.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Cogent, if disgusting, analogy as always…

      • Espiando

        It’s bear day at the bath house. I’m just getting prepared.

        • Sandy

          Well, I had to look that up. Can you believe there is a Wiki page that explains just what Espi is talking about here. Bear night. huh – who knew …

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      No no! Don’t grease the asshole first. (Deliverance.)

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Go, Hambo! GO!

    I am picturing these settlements as seed money for a larger effort. And if Ryan Hamilton’t sole motive is money, fine. That’e the sole motive of Scientology these days…

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    The Feshbachs have purchased a former Baptist Church? Scientology has become a Hermit Crab religion– picking up the cast-off shells of others and fashioning new homes from them…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Maybe it’s a rest home for old sea ogres. Finally, they get to sleep…

      http://i.imgur.com/EugrCVP.jpg?1

    • Anonymous

      Great analogy – very funny!

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      That old church must be crammed packed with cast-out demons and now an endless cluster of Body Thetans.

      Who ya gonna call?!

  • villagedianne

    Moving the Narconon to Clearwater sounds sinister to me. Will they make it harder for dissatisfied customers to leave? Are they hoping that more oversight from CW will prevent the bad things that have happened in other Narconons? Is this a last-ditch effort to preserve Narconon?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      They have numerous political connections in Clearwater. Would it make it harder to sue them there? They have the police in their RPF stained pockets. Wonder how many judges they have as well. Seems the entire town is afraid of the cult except for a brave few.

      • villagedianne

        Good point Would a Sea Org escape Marc Headley style, with a police escort, even be possible in Clearwater?

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      They also have the Clearwater police working for them. NarCONon offices elsewhere are routinely beset with law enforcement call-outs and emergency transport call-outs, if the crooks fall back to Clearwater, the local police will accommodate any crime, any abuse.

  • Mary_McConnell

    It’s always good to see things getting done in the name of justice for these victims. I thank God for the likes of Ryan Hamilton and his firm. We’ve come a long way since 2006 in getting attorneys willing to take these cases. These settlements are a testimony that the tables are turned and Narconon and Scientology are afraid… very afraid while attorneys aren’t anymore.

    For those who get upset with settlements, keep in mind that these plaintiffs are just ordinary people who have been victimized while attempting to help themselves or their addicted loved ones. Hopefully now they can move on and continue on in getting the needed help without the burden Narconon caused, of having lost their life savings or depleting their credit to get it.

    • Elar Aitch

      Am happy for people to take settlements MM, as long as it’s not because Scientology have somehow persuaded them to take pennies now, or wait for long long long time to get justice.

      • Mary_McConnell

        I am certain that Hamilton will not settle for pennies on their behalf. And from my experience in helping people get refunds, Narconon hates paying but when push comes to shove, they will. The bad press alone is worth it. In the case of Scientology and ABLE settling, as is the case here, it’s like they are trying to plug up the drain before all the water runs out. At some point, there will be one or more of these cases that will make it to trial and the supposed collusion between Narconon and Scientology will be fully exposed. That is their biggest fear. It will be a game changer they don’t want. So settling is a safe way… for now.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        Elar, only Narconon International and ABLE are settling in these seven lawsuits. The Narconon facility where each plaintiff was injured is not settling. The fight continues and I don’t believe Hamilton will settle for pennies.

  • Anonymous

    “Considering Scientology’s reputation for scorched-earth legal tactics and delaying maneuvers, it may come as quite a shock to some observers that two Scientology organizations, staffed with elite “Sea Org” workers, are cutting checks to quietly get out of these lawsuits.”

    To me, this seems an almost quintessentially Miscavige / Scientology tactic.

    If it is true that ABLE and Narconon International have settled out of the seven suits, speculatively it could mean these things:

    1) There are common factors in those suits that put ABLE and Narconon Intl. at great risk through exposure and potential judgement. That exposure and risk is lessened via settlement.

    2) The individual remaining Narconon facilities (and their licensee owners) have been thrown under the bus and will take the fall for whatever atrocities occurred in their facilities

    3) Moving way out on a branch of the speculation tree…there are risks to ABLE and Narconon Intl. in the cumulative evidence of the settled suits that would be useful in other non-related litigation against the church as the beehive of plaintiff attorneys watch the dance of the early foragers (Hamilton, Jefferey, Babbitt) that points the way to the $1.5 billion (give or take) in assets that the church has stashed away.

    The above is speculative, but matches prior patterns and also fits into the Bolivar “policy.”

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I’ll take #3, pink legs and all.

      • Anonymous

        That would also be my strongest bet.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Astute observation.

    • Ruby

      All of the above.

    • ze moo

      The clams always cave in when the actual corporate structure is about to be unveiled. Hambo has the nuk-lee-ar weapon that brought out the check book. I hope he shares his evidence with Vance Woodward and the Garcias, though you know that a NDA was involved. I do hope a ‘no compete’ clause was not included, Hambo would be very foolish (or very well compensated) to agree to that.

    • John P.

      One small side effect of your scenario #3 from the cult’s perspective: if Hamilton has come upon evidence in these suits, he knows where the bodies are buried for not only his current suits but for future suits.

      In other words, if Hamilton has come up with some sort of magic bullet (evidence or argument) that allows someone to expose the sham of independence of the entities at the different levels, then he can continue to use that technique in every suit he files. In other other words, he’s got a cash register he can ring any time he wants, even if what he knows is not available to other attorneys as a result of non-disclosure agreements. That means the cult could have significant, and potentially nearly unlimited, exposure if Hamilton keeps suing them.

      The only way a non-disclosure agreement works is if the lawyers who discover the magic bullet agree not to sue the cult any more. And that’s not a restriction you can impose (unless you’re caught in the hall of mirrors currently enmeshing anti-cult attorney Ken Dandar, which Tony has covered recently).

      Even if Hamilton is the only one who can make use of whatever magic bullet he may have discovered, that’s still exactly the same as a balloon with one tiny hole in it.

      • ze moo

        The clampire doesn’t like it when someone has leverage on them. If Hamilton has found the Holy Grail of Violation of the 1993 IRS Agreement, he could retire tomorrow. Davy would pay a lot to bury that body.

        • Once_Born

          Even if he only found the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog he would still be worth a lot of money.

      • Anonymous

        It is not simply non-disclosure, but a General Release of all present and future claims against ABLE and Narconon Intl.,that would likely result in a settlement. The general release would discharge all the boilerplate claims that are stock-in-trade for this kind of litigation, would also cover any specific claims in the instant cases, would waive unknown future claims and, most likely, include prohibitions against some very specific future actions by the actors, possibly to include Hamilton [as we have seen in the Dander settlement(s)] that the church wants to prevent.

        It is speculative and unknowable what is actually included in the settlements, but the above would be traditional components.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          IANL, I don’t think any agreement can limit future claims and liability if their involvement in fraud can be proven. But, I do agree that they at least tried to hamstring Hamilton personally like they did with Dandar. I think Hamilton learned from that. But, we can only speculate about that agreement…

          • Anonymous

            Between parties, release agreements can (and almost always do) cover future unknown claims, otherwise as John P. points out, the cash register could ring forever.

            It is also true that one party can agree to something, change their mind, then try to wriggle out of the agreement, which can be complicated beyond reason.

            The boilerplate, as well as any added specific language, of most General Release agreements anticipates such possibilities and usually makes it VERY difficult for backing out after a settlement.

            Hamilton is working on behalf of parties and theoretically is not a party to these suits. But all sorts of stuff can happen outside of public view. When Scientology is involved, assume nefarious behavior and you are probably getting close to the truth.

            • Chee Chalker

              IIRC, one thing that got Dandar into trouble is that he signed a release on behalf of his client and the Co$ claimed Dandar signed on his own behalf. Hopefully Hamilton is aware of that fact and avoids signing anything. It’s ridiculous to have to sink to that level where all professional courtesy is thrown out the window.

            • Anonymous

              There is no courtesy, and certainly nothing professional, in how Scientology operates.

            • Chee Chalker

              True that….

  • Anonymous

    If insurance fraud is an (alleged) common theme in the seven suits that ABLE and Narconon Intl. have settled out of, then that would argue very strongly for why a settlement occurred.

    Scientology’s pile of money and horde of attorneys / PI’s is no match for the horde of attorneys, PI’s and GIGANTIC pile of money controlled by the insurance industry. Once you are in the sites of the insurance industry looking for civil fraud, it is a very, very short step to also seeing a collection of states Attorneys General sniffing around looking for related criminal activities.

    The above is something that may be worthy of a deeper look, yes?

    • Ruby

      yes!

  • John P.

    BTW, I would have thought that the new Kurt Feshbach “halfway house” could easily have been a home for wayward expectant women rather than more of the same bogus drug rehab “tech.” I can imagine that the lush furnishings at the new Clearwater location would have featured this picture of the founder (and funder) reverently attending to his first wayward expectant mother: http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/KurtKannonFeshbach.jpg

    • Ruby

      oh geez…someone had to do it. Thanks, JohnP

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Dammit to hell. And on a Saturday morning, with no warning? Now I can willingly skip off to tackle that chore list.

      • Ruby

        :)) you said it better than I did.

    • Graham

      Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Why, JohnP? Why? Did you really need to post that?

      • John P.

        I didn’t really see any way to post anything about the oiliness table in today’s comments, so I settled for the next worst thing.

        • PreferToBeAnon2

          I understand.
          That is the one jpeg on this earth that Obs has no need to fiddle with.

          • Observer

            It’s a disasterpiece of horror-inducing self-J&D.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          No worst thing has ever been seen.

    • ze moo

      How many engrams did the baby get from that session? I see lots of auditing in that clams future.

    • Shannon#1

      How full of themselves must they be to have commissioned that painting? It’s revolting, worse than those prints by Frazetta that were hawked for big money years ago.

    • D.Y.G.

      I might be the only one outside the Feshback family who absolutely loves this painting. Look at that glorious innie and not one stretch mark!

      • ze moo

        I still prefer Elvis on black velvet. Or dogs playing cards, anything but that…….

      • Observer

        It’s the auditing IAS-donation-induced super powerz!

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      Shall I fetch the coathanger ? yes?

    • stillgrace2

      I DO appreciate the Disqus “see more” option for lengthy posts. I won’t be clicking on this one. I have seen enough of the bottom half of this photo to last me the remaining days of scientology and beyond.

    • Once_Born

      I wonder if the photographer artist was thinking of this, and whether his intention was satirical. If it was, I suppose he thought he was safe because the victims would never get it.

  • nottrue

    Come on Narconon victims . Its time to call Hambo……….

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      STAY AWAY FROM MY VAULTS !

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    :) I have to laugh, First off, I thought we would get Sunday Funnies today and was looking forward to it after my early morning hike. Now I have to laugh again because David decided not to bail out his henchmen petty underlings, no honor among thieves, his henchmen are being left to fend for themselves, no secret settlement paid on their behalf by David, no sir!

    I hope that other Scientology criminals take heed: David and bus-throwing go hand in hand. When the long arm of the law seizes you by the back of the neck, you can see you can’t count on your head ringleaders to save your ass. You’re on your own.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Hell, he threw the entire Church of Scientology under the bus at the first hint of personal trouble in the Rathbun case. Oh how I wish I could afford to fly banners over every whale’s home city and home org. I know they won’t look at the internetz. But surely they can look up in the sky … is it a bird, is it a plane?

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        Heh, I have to wonder if his lawyers will try an insanity plea to get out of testifying or whether his lawyers will explain to the Judge that their client the defendant can not be sobered up long enough to give deppo or explain his behavior to a jury.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Now there’s a new, delicious thought.

        • Robert Eckert

          The judge will then order a psychiatrist to examine him, and sent him to the Miscavige Hospital for the Criminally Insane

          • Once_Born

            If he was ever forced to testify in a court of law, I suspect that he would either be sanctioned for unresponsive answers, or sent for a psychiatric evaluation.

            After a lifetime isolated from the wider world, I seriously doubt he could function in that situation.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        …Or is it Carla Moxon heading up to intercept interstellar bombers?

  • Mark

    Meanwhile, somewhere on the penthouse floor of FLAG (refresh):

    • outraged

      good goin’ davey. shoot right up, solves everything.

      What about Peaches? Was Mr. Mi$cientology accountable in some way for her death?

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706529/Peaches-Geldofs-husband-Thomas-Cohen-house-15-weeks-traumatised-death.html

      • Mark

        Peaches and Shortarse would make an interesting case-study in the nature vs. nurture debate.

    • Sunny Sands

      I imagine DM walking through the air bridge across Ft. Harrison Ave. from the hotel to the Sooper Powerz building, and nowhere else. Where else would he go? Not out to dinner on Clearwater Beach or anywhere else public. He doesn’t seem to mingle even with other Sci executives, except Lou, of course.

      • Mark

        I think he’s so scared of being assassinated that he wouldn’t even risk the Ft. Harrison Avenue bridge – instead moving around the complex by his own network of secret tunnels and hidden passages (only half-joking).

  • dagobarbz

    Musing on fascinating Feshbecks…They’ve fallen a ways since the go-go 90s. I wonder if they ever stop to think how much money they’d still have if they hadn’t given it to Scientology and DM, and was it ultimately worth it.

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      And they can see that Scientology is not working, they’re probably not dimbulbs like Cruise and Alley.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        But the entire family have spilled their special secrets and their guts out, all captured on video and sitting in a warehouse full of auditing and ethics folders … or behind David Miscavige’s wet bar to read out loud during cocktail hour.

        http://i.imgur.com/3IAkJue.png
        (lifted from: http://offdainnertube.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html)

        • Anonymous

          That really is creepy. And if it weren’t so close to the truth, it would be funnier.

          For those that are not familiar with the the issues, here’s a link to a blog post by Marty Rathbun with some frightening assertions:

          http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/david-miscavige-violates-tom-cruises-confessional/

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            A secret spilled for us mere mortals could mean embarrasment with friends and families.

            A secret spilled for one of these whales could mean lawsuits, company dissolution, worldwide scandal, divorces, and bankruptcies.

            • Anonymous

              “Friendship is mutual blackmail elevated to the level of love.” Robin Morgan

              An ugly sentiment, but sometimes true.

  • Missionary Kid

    Has anyone thought that DM might have a shore story that he discovered some “unethical” conduct on the part of the plaintiffs or Ryan Hamilton and forced them to “settle?” With a non-disclosure agreement, he can say anything he wants as long as he doesn’t reveal specifics. That shore story could even be true.

    Since we only know that the parts of the suits that involve Co$ have been settled, there’s a lot we don’t know. At this point, all we can do is speculate.

  • Pierrot

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    2 Hours+ ago
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    And what is left from JJ
    http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/grp/4583277528.html
    http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cls/4579001157.html
    http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/tls/4578582448.html

    The Recovered ads
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-105#post-2473799
    Todays Daily list: RE-FLAG your Regions and your pet peeves
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-105#post-2473795

    Congratulations, Celebrations, caek and champagne for all these good news

    • Pierrot

      14 minutes ago, let’s try to nail this sauna tech:

      http://boulder.craigslist.org/cls/4588388554.html

    • Graham

      Bizarre ad: http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/4587811556.html Dianetics test strips? Worth $70 a box on e-bay?!! WTF??

      • Pierrot

        I got no idea, this ad was pulled because it contains the word dianetic. What this ad has to do with dianetic is anyone’s guess!

        • Scream Nevermore

          Typo for diabetic??

          • Graham

            Makes sense. The idea that there might be some way of submitting Dianetics to any kind of test is beyond belief.

            • Once_Born

              Actually, the basic ideas behind Dianetics are quite easy to Scientifically test. What’s more, those tests were performed shortly after Hubbard made Dianetics up, and the basic principles of Dianetics were found to be completely false.

              There is a PhD thesis from 1953 entitled “Dianetic Therapy: An Experimental Evaluation” http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/fischer/Fischer_Title.html

              Also, a fundamental claim from “Dianetics” was tested in 1959 and the results were published in “The Psychological Newsletter.” It was called “An Experimental Investigation of Hubbard’s Engram Hypothesis (Dianetics)” http://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/04/01/an-experimental-investigation-of-hubbards-engram-hypothesis-dianetics/

              Once its basic principles were falsified, scientists were no longer interested in Dianetics, and Scientologists will not listen to the evidence, so the argument ceased.

            • Graham

              Thanks for the references Once Born. Worth reading.

              Conclusions of the 1953 PhD thesis:
              For the population of disturbed persons who applied for dianetic therapy, and who were between the ages of twenty-two and forty-seven years, and who had at least some high school education, regardless of the sex of these persons, it was concluded that:
              1. Dianetic therapy does not systematically, favorably or adversely influence the ability to perform on tests of intellectual functioning.
              2. Dianetic therapy does not systematically, favorably or adversely influence the ability to perform on tests of mathematical ability.
              3. Dianetic therapy does not systematically, favorably or adversely influence the degree of personality conflicts.

              In other words, Dianetics is a complete waste of time.

            • Once_Born

              The other one is interesting, too – it dates from the early days of the “Dianetic Foundation”, when members of the organisation were willing to cooperate in scientific tests.

              The researchers ‘implanted’ an engram in a person after knocking them out with a tranquilliser. Then they took the experimental subject to Dianetic practitioners and watched while they attempted to ‘recover’ his supposed engram using the techniques of Dianetics.

              They didn’t come close. The whole edifice of Dianetics fundamentally depends on the existence of engrams so, when this claim was falsified, the entire hypothesis went down the drain with it.

      • aegerprimo

        I think the ad meant to say diabetic. (The b and n are next to each other on the qwerty keyboard.)

    • Eileen

      Only 1 active ad remains (Japanese student), the other is the HVAC ad. Thanks to all the “internet assholes” (quote is from JJ). I’ll go to the main CL lists and keep an eye open for the next attack.

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        “Thanks to all the “internet assholes” (quote is from JJ).”

        Says the guy in the water shoveling the chum.

  • Sejanus

    I guess Der Midget has Super Powerz afterall.
    Behold how he so effortlessly throws Narconon under the justice bus.

  • Larry

    This newspaper website could use a little support in the comment section regarding Narconon. I placed the first one.

    http://www.herald-dispatch.com/features/x720303133/Narconon-offering-addiction-assistance

    • Larry

      Well, that went well, Lol!

      • stillgrace2

        Your post stated the case against Narconon very well, and you left a trail for interested parties to seek the truth. I thought the job was done.

        • Larry

          Thanks stillgrace2, for a moment there I was feeling like the lone ranger, lol.

  • ze moo

    While I am not a lawyer and have only cursory experience with the most of the legal world, I see the Narc International and ABLE settlement as a simple matter of cost effectiveness. Both entities received 10% {probably more, but how much more?} of the ill gotten gains that the local CON generated. They were only on the hook for that amount, plus any RICO add ons. That means they were exposed to liability for only 3-4k to each plaintiff. Ok, make it 10k if RICO rates were used. Only seventy thousand to get out of these 7 suits??? Such a deal. Also very small change to Hambo. Very cost effective for the clam corps.

    But it does simplify the next bit of court action by leaving only the local NarCONons and the referral websites as defendants. The fraud and abuse stuff will be so easy to prove, but will the NarCs have the pockets to pay out??? Any liability insurance company is going to run for the hills and deny coverage because of the fraud, so who is going pay the plaintiffs??

    I could put on my tin foil ‘postulate’ hat and see seizure and sale of the Narcs in distant future. That road is going to be long and expensive. How is Hamilton going to avoid that scenario? He is going to take a reasonable settlement from the NarCs and avoid a long drawn out court fight. The liability insurance will finance most of such a settlement, it is the most cost effective thing to do. I don’t think I’ll ever play chess with Ray Hamilton, he thinks 10 moves ahead.

    • Mooser

      “Any liability insurance company is going to run for the hills and deny
      coverage because of the fraud, so who is going pay the plaintiffs??”

      I suspect the insurance company will do more than that, if they are reputable. Would you like your insurance company to be known as “Narconon’s insurer”? The insurance company who abetted their fraud by insuring it?

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    At some point in time, I am hoping that this will all spill over into criminal RICO. Hope this does not weaken ABLE and NN Int as defendants if that time ever comes–they would have yielded some good discovery. On the other hand, I am happy that the plaintiffs here are receiving some re-compensation early without much ado and can move on. I assume this also means that Hamilton can get a percentage of the settlement and can be well funded to pursue all of the rest of this.

    • Sir_Real

      A RICO suit filed against the cult where justice prevailed would be a dream come true.

  • Observer

    *refresh*

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Have I told you lately how much I love your work?

      Awesomeness.

      • Observer

        We need a Ryan Hamilton fan art page!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I expect to see his pig replaced with LAWS any day:)

      • Observer

        And I love all the other shoops! I wish more of the delightfully snarky people here would give shooping a go. It’s not about the Photoshop skill level–it’s about the quality of the snark.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Oh my god this is perfect

    • SNAFU

      Truly brilliant! Bravo!

    • Frodis73

      You’ve gotta email that to his law firm. That is so great.

    • ShoopZ

      Perfect!

  • Sunny Sands

    I think it’s always good to remember in civil lawsuits like these Narconon ones, it is about the money. It’s a civil court’s duty to assess damages and assign a dollar amount, or occasionally, a restraining order. Criminal courts impose jail terms, community service, fines, and the like.

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    :) Photo thanks to RMycroft . :)

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      Speaking of machines…

      “Have you seen this short-arse?”

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        I am totally stealing this.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        He looks just a little sad in that picture…

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    When David sobers up and regains consciousness long enough to recognize that what his underlings are telling him is that they couldn’t wake him and had to settle some of his lawsuits by writing big checks, he’s going to be very angry.

    • Mooser

      Gosh, this whole rehab-cash-cow is not turning out the way they planned.
      Who wrote the checks for the settlements, was it indeed Miscavige? Or are their other “investors” who decided to cut their losses?
      Won’t Narconon end up getting it from both ends before it’s over? If I was a liability insurance company who wrote insurance for this fraud, I would think it was very, very important to prove that Narconon defrauded us. I mean, the alternative is that the insurance company was in on the scam, isn’t it?
      Insurers are supposed to be able to detect fraud, not insure it.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        Certainly David authorized the check writing, nobody else is allowed to make such decisions.

        • Jgg2012

          Authorized, from a pay phone, yes. Signed, no. He wants no paper trail, but obviously some people are on to him.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        You know very well that David Miscavige has no knowledge of any checks or the existence of any drug rehab program. He only vaguely remembers that one time that he might have said, “hi.” In passing to one or two employees of something that started with an “R” or maybe an “M”.

    • Jgg2012

      btw, the checks were NOT written by Davey. CSI and RTC claim to be separate from Narconon. Narconon and ABLE had wog lawyers do it, with lots of disclaimers.

    • Sarah James

      Sober up? I don’t think he has been in that condition since the early 90’s. It’s hard work being an evil, degenerate, baby killing, prison warden, cult god of scientology.

  • Jgg2012

    I am also unsure of the motives, but this is what I think. The local orgs are broke, so they can’t pay anything and thus cannot offer big bucks to settle, whereas ABLE and Narconon could and did. They probably had to if no one was willing to represent them. Now, here is what I found interesting: If, as we suspect, Narconon Intl. is a wholly owned subsidiary of CSI, and Hamilton gets a judgment against the local Narconon, can he satisfy it by suing CSI directly? I think not–if you settle with a subsidiary, you can’t sue the parent for the liabilities of the subsidiary’s subsidiary, but I’m not sure. It may depend on how the settlement is worded. Anyone know?

  • Jgg2012

    An irony about Hamilton: he majored in psychology in college. In fact, on the OT8 satire site he was accused of being a psych pretending to be a lawyer.

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    ATTENTION ARSCC (wdne)!!! Board members please assemble!

    The board should now recognize that one Mr. Hambo has attested to and proven to have acquired the ultimate state of SP9 (with 7 clam clusters.) All in favor of so recognizing this accomplishment, please signify by up-voting this.

    SP = Suppressive Person. These are the SP levels;
    SP1 you become a public church critic (posting, picketing, whatever)
    SP2 the church reacts to your actions in some way
    SP3 you get a personal response from the church
    SP4 you are threatened with a lawsuit or Fair Game
    SP5 you are sued and/or Fair Gamed
    SP6 you win their suit or stop the Fair Gaming
    SP7 you sue them
    SP8 you win your lawsuit
    SP9 you collect damages

    Congratulations, Hambo, it’s not every SP that rises in status to true humanitarian.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      I think SP3 or 4 should include an “and/or” personal copy of their goldenrod.

      • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

        We need some New SP Levels, come out with new-and-improved SP. :) Rework these old levels.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          I don’t need to reinvent the wheel. I thought this was worked out already and the goldenrod was somewhere in there.

          • Robert Eckert

            The goldenrod is one type of SP3 (response from the church personally directed at you; a letter saying you are declared, but refusing to show the goldenrod, as is now typical, is considered the same)

            • HillieOnTheBeach

              I get that. It’s just that the very few people who actually got a copy of their goldenrod also got an SP level promotion. ie Anonsparrow, I believe.

              (Btw, just making clear that the entire argument is satire in the first place)

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          That veers into squirrel territory….

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      As a self-identified SP5 as per the above enumerated SP levels, I hereby concur with this ARSCC(wdne) award to Mr. Hambo of the elite status of SP9 with encrustations.

      Hip-hip Hoooray!

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    Well Done! to Ryan Hamilton. I hope the victims didn’t feel pressured to sign non-disclosure agreements (OK, if their lawsuits continue, I guess not).
    Settlements and confidentiality agreements are topics of intense interest in the Candian narCONon lawsuits.

  • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

    We will never Surender !

    Ron, Freedom Fighter

    http://freedom.lronhubbard.org/

    • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

      The longer you refuse to bail out the sinking ship, the quicker it will go down. :)

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Look over there. A windmill!

    • Jgg2012

      I notice you didn’t return to Earth in 2006 like you said you would.

      • Once_Born

        Yes he did – it’s only now that he’s 8 years old that he can reach the keyboard.

        • Jgg2012

          Is there a TR for that?

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        I think even Hubbard’s wildest dreams never imagined that his cult would survive him. This would explain why he took no care for his succession; he expected it to fail regardless. In a way, it goes to show both that a) he knew it was all bullshit and no one would bullshit well enough as he did to keep this crap going and b) goes to show scientology/dianetics was all about him, all the time.

        That enough scientologists were still around in 2006 to care about his return, I think, would baffle him and then get the biggest whole-track laugh out of him yet.

      • Sarah James

        He tried, but david miscavige made sure he was aborted.

        • aegerprimo

          Good one Sarah.

      • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

        I was undercover amongst mankind

        -Ron, International Spy

    • nosce

      “Freedom Fighter” reminds me or the Iran-Contra fiasco.

    • nosce

      Just curious, but have you ever met any of the following people? http://tonyortega.org/2014/03/17/here-are-the-wealthy-people-keeping-scientology-alive/

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    I just realized that soon the Dictatorial Monsignor will announce in a huge lavish event, international executive directives and a long lost and suppressed January 1986 HCOPL direct from L. Ron Hubbard’s dying lips declaring that Narconon and any drug rehabilitation and criminal rehabilatition programs are squirrel splinter groups started by Suppressive Persons, Druggies and Criminals and not really scientology at all.

    That the folks who created Narconon and Crimianon and all the drug free world promoters and even the VMs were dilettantes and infiltrators with other fish to fry.

    He will declaim that scientology must get back to its core message and values. Then he will make the whole body of the members guilty for not seeing this themselves and even accepting these suppressive diversions. He will declare everyone involved in them. For the rest, he will put them back at the bottom of the bridge and run them through a new revised ethics program and “How to confront and shatter suppression” course (all at their expense) PLUS release the IAS sharks to rape the last monetary resources so he can “Settle all these lawsuits these squirrels got us into.”

    • Jgg2012

      “Dictatorial Monsignor will announce..that Narconon and any drug rehabilitation and criminal rehabilatition programs are squirrel splinter groups” And, since Narconon and ABLE are listed in the 1993 IRS agreement, we will have another reason to bug the IRS to sue Scientology and rescind their tax exemption.

    • aegerprimo

      Sort of like the way DM destroyed the missions.

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    This is awesome news. It’s at least a partial victory for seven of the victims of Narconon.

    I just finished watching the Scientology episode of Deadly Devotion. It was a sickening reminder of how inhuman Scientologists are.

    • 1subgenius

      And they are proud that a goal of the cult is taking one’s humanity away.
      Homo Novis indeed.

  • Graham Berry

    Narconon is being defended by the Las Vegas office of the
    Los Angeles based Lewis, Brisbois, Bisgaard & Smith law firm where I was a
    capital partner at one time. Its core practice is representing insurance
    carriers. Clearly, Narconon has a liability insurance policy which provides
    coverage for negligent conduct. Most simply put, such policies often contain a
    provision that permits the insurance carrier providing a defense to settle the
    case without the consent of the insured (in these matters Narconon). That is
    probably what is occurring here. Furthermore, causes of action such as
    intentional misrepresentation (or fraud) are not covered by insurance which
    could leave Narconon exposed to liability beyond its insurance coverage. If
    Narconon resisted the insurance carrier settlements the insurance carrier could
    possibly respond withdrawing the defense and paying the balance of the policy
    proceeds to Narconon which would then defend the case itself. If the cases went
    to trial they may result in verdicts that exceed the amount of the insurance
    coverage-thus giving David Miscavige a further reason not to resist the
    settlements. In addition, it would not surprise me that the insurance carrier
    either declines to renew Narconon’s insurance coverage, substantially increases
    the premium rate, or excludes coverage for future claims of this nature.
    Finally, the Church of Scientology delights in claiming it will litigate
    forever rather than pay “one thin dime” to a litigant or in satisfaction of a
    court judgment. A settlement and payment by the insurance company allows the
    ‘church’ to maintain this defensive posture and deterrent.

    • 1subgenius

      “Narconon is being defended by the Las Vegas office of the
      Los Angeles based Lewis, Brisbois, Bisgaard & Smith law firm where I was a
      capital partner at one time.”
      I’m not sure irony is quite enough of a word for that.

      Cheers.

    • Jgg2012

      “such policies often contain a
      provision that permits the insurance carrier providing a defense to settle the
      case without the consent of the insured”
      I assume that this amount is no greater than the amount of the premium, i.e. if Narconon has $100,000 of coverage, they can unilaterally settle for that amount, but no more. This may explain the partial settlement. If the client wants $300,000, and 2 defendants can toss in 100,000 each right away, they’ll take that, and then proceed against the remaining defendant for the balance. Collecting additional moneys is hard because CSI hides all its assets.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      I wonder what the state laws are like where the various Narconons operate in regards to being required to have insurance? It would be unhinged for them to operate without it, but maybe they’d try, but would they be allowed to?

    • Once_Born

      “[...] causes of action such as intentional misrepresentation (or fraud) are not covered by insurance which
      could leave Narconon exposed to liability beyond its insurance coverage”.

      It makes good, practical sense for the insurance company to settle an indefensible case rather than waste money fighting it as a matter of policy. Thank you for the insight..

      What puzzles me is why they:
      (a) Took Narconon’s business in the first place (wasn’t it obvious that they were quacks)
      (b) Don’t cut them loose on the grounds of “intentional misrepresentation” (surely lying about their certification is enough for this).

      • Sarah James

        Maybe, the insurance company should be looked into as well. Why would they cover a fake rehab?

        • Once_Born

          I think the worst thing they could be accused of would be lack of due diligence.

          Still… yes they should have seen through the cover stories, and are therefore responsible for enabling Narconon’s abuses.

    • Jgg2012

      It just occurred to me that Hamilton may now amend his complaint to include RTC and Miscavige, who actually run these individual centers.

    • ze moo

      Only NarCONon International and ABLE have settled. Why would they maintain liability insurance for the individual NarCONons under them? They may maintain liability insurance for their purposes, but not for the rehab part of the business, after all they aren’t in the direct care of rehab business.

    • PreferToBeAnon2

      Thanks for the comment. That is an angle I never considered. Wait a minute, wouldn’t the NN facility be the ones insured and not ABLE or NN Int?

      Btw, I recently resurrected your chat in Germany on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvMoSsuRVW8&list=PL95198C080762251B
      That was such an excellent talk!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Gotta love,Graham Berry!

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      Bah Humbug !

  • Jeb Burton

    I wish all these people would quit suing scientology. Im worried about Tony Ortega. What is he going to do if the cult goes broke? “Hi. Im Tony and i’ll be your server tonight.” So get in the sauna, eat your niacin and shut up. And it would be nice if you hippies would quit pointing out everything wrong with the church.

    • 1subgenius

      He could be a haberdasher.
      “Size 7? I think we have that.”

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        Second time in 2-3 days a post of yours reminds me of a Nigel.

        • 1subgenius

          wowza

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            Thanks, dude.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      It’s death by 7 less cuts than before, but one has to wonder how they’ll deal with the remaining lawsuits.

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        The local Narconons still have to decide to settle, play “bankrupt”, or fight it until that last hammer-blow.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          There will be more pressure to settle quietly, and playing “bankrupt” is probably something any state or federal courts won’t tolerate, due to the greater volume of such cases, legitimate and fraudulent. Fight, fight with what? Any publicity will damage any cases still in the pipeline, and fighting it will generate stories and perhaps headlines.

          We’re coming for you, Dave. In your dreams, and then later, we will pick your bones as your empire collapses around you.

          • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

            Test

            • Pierrot

              Nice to see you, I have been worried.

    • Captain Howdy

      You tell ‘em, Jeb.

    • Mark Foster

      Be sure to get one last hit off of that crack pipe, Jeb…

      • Robert Eckert

        Jeb is spoofing. Don’t worry about him, he can be a grouch but he’s a Clearwaterite so he has his reasons.

        • Mark Foster

          Oh, okay. I was thinking a little Scientology Grade 0…nah, just spoofing :)

    • Jgg2012

      The cult’s implosion will take time. Look at how long they delayed paying Wollersheim. He’ll be writing about their collapse for several years.

    • Elar Aitch

      It’s a bit like Billy Bragg when Margaret Thatcher left politics

  • Mark

    At last! I get to filch a piccy from Media Lush! Beware of Feshbachs buying or selling anything (refresh):

    • Captain Howdy

      The flying bears are a nice touch. Excellent.

      • Mark

        Not my work – I think ML got it from a magazine article about the stock-market short-selling scandal.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      woh. Another awesome. just woh

    • shasha40

      Awesome , and its creeping me the fuck out !

    • Ineedcaffeinenow

      Every time I click on a picture re the Feshbachs, I am terrified it will be “the one that should never again be seen.”

      • Frodis73

        Oh it’s here…just down page a bit. Beware!

        • Ineedcaffeinenow

          Thanks for the warning. I just now made it to the bottom of the comments. Will not open it!

  • Sunny Sands

    Superpages.com lists the info for Narconon Spring Hill Inc. as 1390 Sunset Point Rd., Clearwater, FL 33755.

    A records search for that address lists the owner of that property as Rehabilitation Initiatives LLC, 1230 S. Myrtle Ave. Ste. 404, Clearwater, purchased from New Beginnings Community Church. This company was registered 4/9/13, manager Sean Strickling, registered agent Johnson, Pope, Bokor, Ruppel and Burns LLP.

    Here is a pic from loopnet showing what the property looks like.(refresh)

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      Wally Pope, their go-to guy for any shifty legal dealing in Florida.

  • aegerprimo
  • outraged

    SURRENDER S*C*I*E*N*T*O*L*A*G*O*T*S

    The world as you know it is about the change for the better.
    Mr. David Missed It All is Going Down down down down down.
    Jump off the sinkingship or drown in His Evil.

    • aegerprimo

      Call 1-866-X-SeaOrg…
      (TY THDNE for the graphic)

      • outraged

        A Message From the Voiceless

        http://youtu.be/iuTJ98_znVM

        • Captain Howdy

          So Marty is Lucifer and those leaving scientology are the fallen angels?

          • outraged

            Marty has a baby. How could he be Lucifer.

            Only The Little Shit is Lucifer.
            Maybe also Little Shit the Elderond

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Only the PAC refugees.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          It could be the other way around.

          • outraged

            One day it will. It is already happening.

  • J. Swift

    As a flanking maneuver, these settlements may preclude those settling from testifying in the NAFC lawsuit. This would eliminate seven witnesses who could say they specifically relied upon Narconon’s fraudulent representations that their facilities and counselors were NAFC certified.

    If so, a legal subpoena would compel their testimony.

    I have wondered why Hambo and NAFC have not affiliated to associate these two matters in a CIvil RICO case, i.e.fake NAFC certs that go to a civil conspiracy by Narconon and its agents, employees, and sales people to engage in specific reliance and/or false inducement

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Great insight! This might be why some sort of criminal prosecution must be the end game. IIRC, one cannot refuse to testify in a criminal case because of a civil contract gag agreement.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        My god, thank you Michael for another favorite sentence – “some sort of criminal prosecution must be the end game.”

      • ze moo

        The NAFC lawsuit is a civil matter. There are no criminal cases in the NarCONon vein beyond what Georgia and perhaps Oklahoma have done.

        Georgia has not indicted any person connected with the insurance fraud there. I would have thought Mary Reiser and others would have been arrested by now, but 15 or 16 months have lapsed since that investigation and nada in public. While corporate charges against the Georgia rehab have been resolved by the shutdown of the rehab, they could reopen in Georgia at any time.

        Unless the insurance fraud investigation is extended to the entire NarCONon network, I don’t see them closing up shop yet. Given the standard operation procedures of the clampire, you just know that they all have been milking any revenue source possible, and fraud is part of the SOP. A real examination of the books of all NarCONons would probably keep federal district attorneys busy for the next five years.

        Yeah, those facilities being sued by Hambo are going to have a lot of trouble, but if the dwarfenführer throws enough IAS money at them, they will survive. Even if all insurance companies decline to sell liability coverage to them, they can post a bond and keep doing business. Self insurance is the last step in the NarCONon meltdown, if that happens you know the end is near.

        Keeping those who settled out of the NAFC suit is very problematical. I don’t know how hard it would be to get around such a ‘silence agreement’. As the swiftmeister noted, getting an order to at least depose them would not be that hard, would it??

        The fight to close down this clam scam is going to go on for quite a while, but the clock is ticking….tick tock indeed……How deep are your pockets and how deeply are you going to dig to keep a thoroughly discredited brand name in operation? Name changing won’t work this time, there are too many eyes on this scam.

    • Jgg2012

      Hambo and NAFC represent different damages, so I don’t see them suing together. Working together, yes. Here is a similar idea, though–the insurers can sue Miscavige and CSI, saying that if they knew Narconon was a CSI front group they would never have represented them, and then use RICO (and Use of Mails to Defraud) to get treble damages and punitive damages.

      • J. Swift

        Now that is a great idea: The insurers suing Miscavige as the licensee of CSI, ABLE, and Narconon. NAFC has a tremendous presentation of Miscavige being all over Narconon just like white on crack.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I keep dropping in to see the latest dissection and the resulting evolution of theories. Very thought provoking stuff for a Saturday and it keeps developing by the hour, like some kind of Sherlock Holmes series. This is gettin’ good!

          • Espiando

            Except for this little discrepancy: Benedict Cumberbatch is Khan. Scientology is a con.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Ah, there is that. Are we placing bets on this one?

            • Science Doc

              DM is Ka Khan.

          • Ineedcaffeinenow

            DM isn’t close to being as smart as Moriarty.

            • Espiando

              I don’t think that MK has Moron-iarty on his list of DM Nicknames, so I’m leaving it here as bait.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for July 26: *refresh for images*

    Tony: US rank #17,831 – down 172 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 22,343)
    Scientology: US rank #59,700 – down 1,714 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 63,152)

    Difference: 41,869 – 1,542 more than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 40,808)

    Clicks from India – 7,9% today.

  • Sunny Sands

    The Narconon Sunset Point Rd. property received their $450,000 remodeling permit 6/25/2014. They had applied nearly a year ago. Nothing about saunas yet. There are residential neighbors east of the property, wonder what they will say if it tries to go residential rehab. (refresh)

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      And don’t they need a permit for whatever use they want to convert it to, instead of a church?

      • Missionary Kid

        IMO, possibly not. There are a number of ways that property is zoned. If their permit application has been approved, that means that the zoning meets the standards of such a facility.

        If it doesn’t fit the zoning, usually the application for a remodeling permit will include a request for change of zoning. At that point, a hearing would be held by the zoning commission and comments from neighbors and the public are invited to make comment.

        How it’s done in Clamwater may be completely different.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Okay I was thinking not from zoning, but if they want a halfway house or rehab the state might need to license it – that is true in Cali at any rate. As you say, Clamwater may be different.

  • http://www.skippress.com/ Skip Press

    So cool to see the cult on craaaacccckkkkkk…

    • DodoTheLaser

      Happy Birthday, Skip!

      • http://www.skippress.com/ Skip Press

        Thanks!

        • DodoTheLaser

          Very welcome!

  • nottrue

    Business went from flourishing to faltering thanks to scientology……….http://youtu.be/gqmYgyClMhc

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Hmmm. It looks like CoS is about to drop a whole lot of plates on the floor. I don’t want to say what it is right now, but I’ll be sure to post when I’m certain. And it definitely is a key indicator of CoS’s internal condition that I’ve been waiting for for quite a while.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Yipee!
      Will wait patiently……..sorta.

    • Frodis73

      You are such a cos tease…lol. I will also try to be patient with BTN.

    • Jgg2012

      Does it have something to do with Lawyers deciding to drop them as a client?

    • Just Dee

      I have no patience – are you certain yet??? :)

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        Give it three weeks. It’s not major, just embarrassing for them, and someone’s going to take the fall for it (perhaps into a hole).

        • Just Dee

          OMG three weeks? I was just going to ask you what about now? Figuring 30 minutes was plenty of time!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Is it relative? ÷)

        • Jimmy3

          Whew, that was a long three weeks. (Refresh)
          Finally, you can tell us now.

        • aquaclara

          You know a secret?

          Pssst. You can spill it to me. I won’t tell.

      • aegerprimo

        I’m with you Dee – stop teasing RM, spill the beans already!

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          The plates are falling in bullet-time, and they won’t shatter until the second bounce. Let’s just wait, then we can all shout “Gordon Bennett!” or “Mazel Tov!”

          • Baby

            Are we there yet Dad? I have to peeeeeee

          • Jgg2012

            Does it having anything to do with someone exiting a small household storage area? Or someone who was slapped once too often? I know it doesn’t involve the federal government lifting a finger.

          • Jgg2012

            RM, do the initials “CB” and “BD” have relevance? Or how about the great disseminator?

    • Jgg2012

      Can’t they move those plates with their mind?

  • Abe Blinkin

    A great victory against the cult. I am sure however there is a nasty clause in there to never utter a bad work about the cult. Those bastards always get something in there.

  • PickAnotherID

    With the NAFC suit getting ready to blow the corporate shell game wide open, I’d bet they settled to minimize the risk of these other suits getting all over it when it happens.

  • Just Dee

    I am wondering if they are going to have to produce some people for depos, or something else legal, that have been in the hole far too long. They might just need a halfway house before they are actually coherent.

  • Deeana

    These settlements are just another indicator that Co$ is swirling the drain.

    I sure would like to see the mainstream media report “Scientology Settles Seven Lawsuits Against Narconon Drug Centers”.

  • Sejanus

    One would hope NBC will be all over this given their Narconon stuff sometime ago.

    • outraged

      one would hope.

  • Sidney18511

    On CNN right now old film clips from the British Invasion from the 60s.

  • 10oriocookies

    A standing ovation for the founder of the tech we use here at The Underground Bunker!!!! Hip Hip Hooray!!! Hip Hip Hooray!!!! As a fully hatted Qualifications Supervisor I hereby award Ryan Hamilton the certificate of Narconon Nut Kicker Extraordinaire I/C. His cert is gold sealed and permanent.

    • Missionary Kid

      I hope there isn’t a non-disclosure agreement, but knowing the way that Co$ works,that’s probably not in the cards.

  • 10oriocookies

    Next order of business is a motion to forever ban the picture Kurt Feshbach commissioned to be painted of him and his pregnant wife. It has been proven to make too many body thetans throw up in their spirit mouths at once.

    • 10oriocookies

      All in favor?

      • Missionary Kid

        Aye!

      • Observer

        Seconded, and aye!

      • Elar Aitch

        I’ve actually started to become immune to it from the immersion therapy here at the Bunker, but sure, that shit should not be foisted on an unsuspecting world.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I wonder if the brood has hatched, swarmed and eaten them. Yet.

  • Observer

    OT yet strangely appropriate: now showing on SyFy, Mega Shark vs. Mecha Shark.

    • Captain Howdy

      “The mega shark begins its reign of terror by flipping the tugboat to the air until it crashes and decapitates the Sphinx hundreds of miles away in Giza.”

      And it’s got Debbie Gibson?
      I need to call my local cable provider first thing come Monday morning.

      • richelieu jr

        I am so sick of documentaries on Russel Crowe…

  • Baby

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/how-scientology-deals-with-child-molesters/

    Just posted this on Mike’s.. I am really surprised and thankful that he posted it..( down at bottom) He has come a long way..

    Edited.. I mean he has come a long way in allowing different view points..

    • outraged

      My comment is there too! Don’t know what he thinks about my comments, but I do contribute to many of his posts.

      • Baby

        outraged.. yes I saw yours and thought it was spot on.

        I have had more posts NOT go through than I have had posted.. You still can’t post as freely ad you can here! ; /

        but that’s OK .. I understand the indie mentality by now with many of his crowd. I’ll just say I’m rarely in agreement with them.

        • outraged

          BackInComm is even more right-sci wing.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      But he filters out posts with http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page links. I suspect xenu is the problem. Well, not really a problem. I’ll just bop another free domain without problem words and point it to the same place.

      • Baby

        Yes.. and as I said to outraged RM .. I have had more comments rejected ( in the past) than go through..

    • richelieu jr

      Well, I’m glad he posted it too. But it doesn’t take too close a reading of the comments to find that there are still plenty of people misting this as one of Miscavige’s ‘crimes’. It interferes with their world-view not a jot.

      • Baby

        Yep…

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Anyone else having trouble with WWP?

    • Pierrot

      If you have not been to wwp for more than a week you should know that for some reason or an other you must remove the *S* from httpS:// it must read http://………

  • Pierrot

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    • DodoTheLaser

      Ohio is flagged. It’s like they are not even trying. Thanks, Pierrot.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Thx,I’ll just use your links. woke up and gonna get busy!

  • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

    Join Scientology and become a person:

    http://warrior.xenu.ca/certs.html

  • And I’m Cute, Too

    So… this is how the Sea Org “confronts and shatters” SPs like Ryan Hamilton and his clients. Somehow, I’m not too impressed. Very pleased, but impressed? No.

    Keep it coming, Ryan! Whatever you’re doing, it’s working!