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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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LIVE BLOG: The Elli Perkins story tonight on the ID Network, ‘The Scientology Cure’

TonyIDPlease join us tonight as we watch a dramatization of one of the most disturbing Scientology deaths, the 2003 murder of Elli Perkins by her own son, Jeremy.

Several months ago, the ID Network interviewed your proprietor for the show, and tonight we’ll get a chance to see the result. ID previously did a really good job with the story of Nancy Many, which aired last year.

Judging by the show’s trailer, below, the producers interviewed Mark Sommer, the Buffalo News reporter who did such a good job investigating Elli’s life and death. They also interviewed your proprietor for more general questions about Scientology itself. The trailer has us optimistic that the resulting piece is going to be pretty interesting…

 

 

The show airs on the ID Network tonight at 9 pm Eastern. We’ll start the live-blogging before the show starts, and we’d love for you to join in with your comments as the program is going. New live updates will appear below this line.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 23, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Tony Ortega

    Jeremy saying his mother’s face would change like she was the devil. His responses were bizarre. “Let me think. Yeah, I killed my mother.”

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      Well, he is detached from reality. Such a response is disturbingly predictable.

      • shasha40

        To us wogs .

      • Tory Christman

        I also think for many of these young people who $cientology was forced on them, there was a great hatred of the BS….and that’s part of it, too. My guess.

  • Baby

    Working in Mental Health for 30 years.. This makes me so angry.. This boy NEEDED medication. I could just cry..

    • Sarah James

      I hope Tayler Tweeds mother see’s this show.

    • shasha40

      I was crying , baby .

      • Baby

        I would have been crying too shasha.. but because of medication I didn’t..

        • shasha40

          Next time you’ll have to share ! Lol :)

    • Aslansown

      I wasn’t able to watch it but I read all the comments, and even then I feel like crying. My sister has suffered from paranoid schizophrenia for almost 30 years, most of that time off meds b/c of lack of insight. The ONLY thing that helps with the hallucinations and the delusions is anti-psychotic medication. This didn’t have to happen. Think of their lives if only they didn’t follow the delusions of LRH, which destroyed the son and the mother.

      • Baby

        I’m sorry Lion ( hugs) Just devastating ! After working with families for so long I know how hard it is for the families.. xo….

        Everyone prays for physical health.. OMG pray for Mental health also..

        • Aslansown

          Yeah it sure is — I know you know that and I’m preaching to the choir here, but this story really hits me (and once someone uploads it and I actually see it, I’m sure it will hit me even harder). It’s really hard on the families of those with severe mental illness, especially b/c it’s almost impossible to get them help if they don’t express suicidal or homicidal thoughts. My parents tried over a 25 yr or so period to get her help, and were only sometimes successful if she did something like walking into traffic or something else that could be a harm that the police would react to. And then the hospitals would many times keep her for a few days and release her to the streets.

          The last time my (then) 80 yr. old mother drove from South Carolina to Indiana where we found out my sister was living – she saw her looking for food in dumpsters and she was accusing my mother and brother of absolutely delusional things — that my brother had robbed a store in 1936 (he was born in 1950) or that my mother and brother-in-law were trying to kill her.

          My mom called 911 (as she had many times before) to get my sister into a hospital. They asked my sister 2 questions – do you want to hurt or kill anyone and do you want to kill yourself? She said no to both and the cops turned to my mother and said “it’s not against the law to be crazy.” Although I wish that they had been more compassionate with my mother, they’re absolutely right. The “dangerousness” factor has to be there, and even then so many hospitals have been closed down or reduced their beds that it’s not certain they can get into a hospital. Cook County jail is now the largest “mental health facility” in the country.

          My mother has become her guardian and my sister at 60 yrs. old has been living in a nursing home for 8 years because she thinks she has to stay there and stay on her meds to be there (she doesn’t, but we’re not going to tell her). If she would actually stay on them on her own, she could live independently, but the pattern is that within two days of being released from a facility she goes off her meds and the cycle continues, over and over and over ad nauseum.

          My mother is 89 and I know that the responsibility for my sister will fall to me when mom dies, b/c neither of my siblings wants to be bothered with it. So as a family member, this is something I’ll be having to deal with for the rest of my (or my sister’s) life. I know this is terrible to say, but it feels like a weight that I’ll have to carry forever/

          I so wish this mother had had the insight and courage to go against what the cult said and get him real help. It’s just tragic.

          • Tory Christman

            My guess is we all wish that, too, Aslansown. So sorry about your family….awful in itself. :( At least your Mom IS doing all that she can. Bless her heart. Try to find the light in this huge “weight”…..I’ve talked to parents of severe brain injured kids for years….and many have turned THE most awful experiences into great joy. I know…it sounds impossible. It’s a process. I’m not familiar with your sister’s specific illness (as Jeremy’s) …but it sounds awful. Find support–you’re going to need it, if you don’t already now.
            (((hugs))) to you. Tory/Magoo

            • Aslansown

              Thank you Tory – I’m touched by your response. Schizophrenia is such a sad and debilitating disease that causes the person to totally lose touch with reality, but with meds the symptoms can be controlled.

              I appreciate your reminder to find joy in the situation. I tend to be pessimistic, so I have to fight that all the time, and especially in this situation. I have to actively choose joy to help her and to keep myself from drowning in a sea of self-pity over something I can’t control.

              Thanks again.

        • Aslansown

          On a much lighter note (I have to go to sleep so I can’t keep thinking about all of this, I got my email newsletter from America’s Test Kitchen today, and guess who I thought of…
          (refresh)

          https://www.cooksillustrated.com/buying_guides/9-15-essential-tools-for-pie-baking?atc=23July2014&extcode=LE14G3CBA

          I say phooey with all that. Make some pastry, slap it into a pie plate, sweeten some fruit with sugar and maybe a little cornstarch, pour it into the crust, slap another layer of pastry on top. Bake and eat (preferably out of the pie pan with a spoon).

          • Baby

            Hahahah My kind of Lion..xox

  • Tony Ortega

    Father and sister Danielle talk to police. They worry about how it will play in the media, and no bad press for Scientology.

    • Frodis73

      I hope they cover the crap the cult did to distance themselves.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      “It is important to me and my church. It is religious material and I want it now,” she said to investigators. “Even if you looked at it, and read it, you would not understand anything in it. Because it is way above a normal person and you would not know what it meant. I want it back right now.”

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Scientology damage control. Surprise, surprise.

  • Tony Ortega

    Ortega was Captain Obvious there for a second.

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      Ortega speaks of Ortega in third person.

      Ortega.

      • ReneeG

        I AM THE MIGHTY ORTEGA.

        He needs a turban or something.

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          Omega Ortega. That sounds like a great name for a Mexican wrestler.

    • Baby

      hahahaha Yes you were

    • Robert Eckert

      And Robert, you’re right!

    • Tory Christman

      ROTFLOL! True…and I didn’t even “hear” it, I read it :) Thanks for the laugh,
      Captain Obvious. :)

  • Observer

    He’s not distraught enough by the death of his wife to open his eyes and put the blame where it belongs.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Wonder where Jeremy inherited his illness? Not.

  • Baby

    E hubby and daughter doesn’t want any bad press against SCN…

    • Tory Christman

      Typical $cientology INSANITY! Their BS “PR” is more important than ANY life. Travolta
      proved that when his son died and he lied about why.

  • Tony Ortega

    Bingo — Prosecutor says you’d think the church would be the last concern you’d have.

  • Tony Ortega

    Ha ha. Explaining that Scientology has a spy wing, OSA.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      OSA

      • Tory Christman

        OSA op Floor Mats *owned* by “Dave” who will, at ANY MINUTE pitch them UNDER THE BUS.
        Tick Tock, “Dave”…this is just the pre-show.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          heh heh It really is happening. pinch me:)

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      Spy wing doesn’t cover everything. They’re the interface between Scientology and the wog world of garden-variety humanoids, and handle the legal and “public relations” as well as the spying and thugs. The three director positions at every Org are supposed to be OSA, although they sometimes use whomever is available.

      The Stasi and the Politburo maybe.

      I laugh every time I read a Snow White excuse that Scientology shouldn’t be held to blame because no one could give the Guardian’s Office (OSA pre-name-change) any orders. Well duh! They gave the orders.

      Hmm. “Scientology shouldn’t be held to blame because no one could give David Miscavige any orders.”

  • Qbird

    OSA – a spy wing of a church.

  • Baby

    I hate this Fuckin cult

    • Frodis73

      A fucking men!

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Scientology is shut down in Buffalo now anyway, is that right?

    • Espiando

      Nope. They have an Ideal Org there.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        But an IO that no one visits. Richmond used to have one (I don’t think it was Ideal), but it’s a chiropractor’s office now.

    • Robert Eckert

      They still show up on Craigslist with some book ads once in a while.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    OSA….here we go!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I thought it was OPA! Now, go smash a plate woman.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Will there be ouzo?

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Surely there will. And grilled octopus. Mmmmmm.

          • DeElizabethan

            I’ll have mine breaded and deep fried. thanks

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I know where we can get some very near you. Tarpon Springs.

            • DeElizabethan

              Supah!

        • Robert Eckert

          Detroit has a well-regarded Greektown where the waiters love to shout OPA! when setting alight a flambe’ dish called saganaki, which locals call Nagasaki

          • Baby

            OMG Fabulous..I miss going to Greektown in Detroit.. Always poked around when going to the casino.. PS One restaurant had the best pizza I have ever had.. OMG

          • Elar Aitch

            Hey Robert – haven’t seen you for a while

            • Robert Eckert

              I was on a road trip and did not bring the laptop. Alas, it coincided with Tony Ortega’s visit to Detroit. 1subgenius got to meet him, but I missed it.

            • Elar Aitch

              :( – I’d be sad about that too

  • Tony Ortega

    Perkins told not to talk to the media. Church closed ranks. Church had to act like they didn’t know Elli, who had been so loyal.

  • ReneeG

    To

    I can’t stop thinking about Kyle Brennan. I would love to see a show about his death.

    • shasha40

      Yea , that would be another story of dealing with mental illness and COS ‘s denial of it

    • ReneeG

      Reading it back, my comment sounds a little.. insensitive, but I mean that Kyle Brennan’s death needs to be brought into the public eye, and there is much more mystery to what happened to him. I would love to see a show tackle his death (murder?) and bring it some needed attention.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Yes! Especially as that story has an almost direct link to the upper core management of this atrocity calling itself a religion – Davey Makemerich’s twin sister!

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Official diagnosis reconfirmed. Reports of body thetans presumably unsubstaniated.

    • Frodis73

      lol

  • Tony Ortega

    They don’t prosecute Jeremy for murder. He was institutionalized.

    • Tory Christman

      Thankfully. What an awful thing to happen to both Mother and son.
      “Bridge to Total Freedom”? ARE YOU F*** KIDDING ME?

  • Tony Ortega

    Sommer: No remorse from Scientology officials.

    • Ruby

      GRRRRR…..

    • Tory Christman

      Typical. Super gross …and their Karma is building. :)

  • Baby

    Cherch closed ranks..of course.. Scn..

    but didn’t work.. It makes headlines.. J Treated with Meds HE IS MENTALLY ILL NOT responsible.. Mental Defect.. Confined in a Mental Institution ..

    No remorse from Scn.

  • MaxSpaceman

    “No remorese from $cientology officials.”

    • Tory Christman

      There *never* is. That was one of the many things that helped me wake UP…and see the light.

  • Tony Ortega

    Could this have been prevented. Yeah, it’s possible.

    • shasha40

      That’s the thing though , how do you get someone to believe other than what they believe ?

    • ReneeG

      Yes, totally preventable. Her son was a paranoid schizophrenic. If your child is hearing voices, dietary changes and vitamins are not going to fix that. I get not wanting to give your children strong mind altering drugs in a cavalier fashion, but this boy was hearing voices– this needs to be addressed, and QUICKLY.

    • Baby

      Absolutely.. When placed on the proper medication and a proper support system .. coupled with professional treatment team ( ie case worker, psychiatrist in a group home to ensure they receive their medication..)

      Paranoid schizophrenics can indeed live a productive life.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Tragic heroine.

    • Espiando

      Who? The stupid bitch mother? How is she a heroine? She’s not fucking Antigone, you know.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        She was stupid, but not a bitch by all accounts. Jenny McCarthy — now THAT was a stupid bitch.

        • Espiando

          From my experience, all mothers are stupid bitches. Or if you want to restrict the conclusion geographically, all mothers from the Southwest Side of Chicago are stupid bitches, which would include Jenny McCarthy.

          • pronoia

            And thus all fathers are lazy selfish immature assholes?

          • sugarplumfairy

            My mom rocks.. And she reads this blog.. Hi, Mom..

    • noseinabk

      She failed to get help for her son because of the pursuit of her eternity with cos. My pity is for the boy.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        Oh, he deserves our sympathy too. Ron and Dave are the real monsters.

  • AintMizBahavin

    awesome insight tony

  • sugarplumfairy

    Did her unswerving faith in scientology lead to her murder? YES!!!

    • shasha40

      These are the dangers of quakery !a

    • Tory Christman

      Note sugarplumfairy: $cientologists do NOT have “Faith” (despite they now TRYING to say they do).
      They have a delusional mind controlled following of their moronic, gross, fat and ugly leader: L Ron Hubbard (and Elli did). Now those “in” replace it with “Dave” (who many hate, but won’t say it).

      • sugarplumfairy

        “…moronic, gross, fat and ugly leader: l ron hubbard..”

        I love you, Tory..

        • Tory Christman

          :) Ditto, sugarplumfairy :)

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Preventable — YOU THINK?

  • Tony Ortega

    Ending on a positive note: That Elli really cared for her son.

    (Who killed her. Derp.)

    • Sherbet

      Yeah, keep hooking up them cans, Shirley. You have no doubt they work.

  • Qbird

    Are the husband & daughter still scientologists?

  • MaxSpaceman

    Shirley is not my favorite person.

  • Bob

    On the left coast still 2 hours till it airs. Sounds intriguing. The church is all against psychiatric labels but what about the labels Clamatolgy doles out. It can make you CRAZY.

    • Sherbet

      You’ll like it, Bob.

      • Bob

        Looking forward to it. Thanks

  • Baby

    Shirley says that E loved her son and she feels responsible for what happened

    I took this as.. ” She pulled it in..”

    • Sherbet

      Yes, I’m sure Elli loved him, but she was so blind. Imagine watching your child suffer terror and still believe he hadn’t quite reached the correct mix of vitamins and auditing to clear him.

      • Baby

        Tragic Sherb…just tragic

  • Tony Ortega

    And that’s it!

    • VargasZiegfeld

      Stellar job, my friend.

      • Tory Christman

        Fantastic job, once more, Tony! And thanks to all you Bunkeroos, too :) What a gang :)

    • sugarplumfairy

      Thanks, Tony!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks Tony.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    And now we move to the story of the serial killer obsessed with high heels. Delightful.

  • Observer

    And now that he’s medicated he has to carry the knowledge that he killed his mother, though it was through no fault of his own. I want to scream!

    • Vaquera

      The same thing, minus Scio, happened two blocks from my home a few years ago. A schizophrenic 20 year old boy stabbed his mom to death in the middle of the day and then ran off.
      He’d graduated from the school my kids were then attending, which was down the street from his house, so the school went on lock down until he was found. The son ended up going to a state mental institution. HOWEVER, my kids told me several weeks ago that he’d been released and classmates were seeing him at the movies, restaurants, etc., and it’s pretty much freaking them out.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Urgh – comments wouldn’t load for me until just now – bummer!

    • Robert Eckert

      You can watch the show vicariously now, in full but backwards.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Great live blogging Tony! I really got the feel of the show, how well done it was, how much it had impact.
    Thanks.

    • Sibs

      Seconded! And same to everyone else who commented!

      • Tory Christman

        Ditto! Thanks, Tony—for the live blogging. YOU ROCK! ((And you all here do, too :))

  • EnthralledObserver

    Did the son speak in the doco ? – I will go back through comments later.

    • MaxSpaceman

      no

      • EnthralledObserver

        ok – thanks

        • MaxSpaceman

          as Sherb noted, yes- on an interrogation tape. 15 seconds at most.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Yep – I see – thanks :)

    • Sherbet

      Recording of his explanation of why he killed Elli, so, yes.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Thanks, Sherbet :)

        • Sherbet

          YW, and it’s good to see you.

  • Snippy_X

    Thanks Tony – that’s got to have some impact. Got to.

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    Okay – Here is the complete Tony transcript of the show in order … the last additions since my last post are in bold at the end:

    Five minutes. Cat on the lap. Thunder outside. Nefarious murder finishing up on the screen.

    Here we go. “Spiritual seeker Elli Perkins has devoted her life to Scientology”

    Don’t blame me for the weird way she’s holding the cans. They didn’t ask me about that!

    After a quick collage of stuff, the title pages.

    Police arrive at a picturesque farmhouse. Brutal murder scene. 2003.

    This world lost a very good person.” “Lot of emotion, tears, disbelief”

    1950s, Elli grows up in Rochester in close-knit family that had a chain of stores.

    She’s a seeker from a young age. “She had an ethereal side to her.” “She liked to help people.”

    Talented artist. Made jewelry. Painted glass.

    Goes to SF in the 1960s. Showing clips from Haight Ashbury.

    Friend ends up in psych ward after bad drug trip.

    Leaves SF. Returns to upstate New York. Ortega says she needed a new direction in her life. Then runs into Scientology in Buffalo.

    Looking for your ‘ruin,’ Ortega says.

    “Thousands of followers” — NICE

    Hubbard is source. Only source of Scientology.

    Ortega says even the low-level TRs are about indoctrination and control.

    Showing bullbaiting. Not really what they’d yell at her.

    Revered by THOUSANDS. Not millions. Finally, they’re starting to get it, Baby.

    First child Jeremy. Danielle second child.

    First break.

    Ha. Ad for a movie about past lives. Perfect.

    I’d be interested to see what indies think, because so far it’s not really criticizing Elli for doing low-level Scientology, and it’s not denying that she got something out of it.

    Elli spending nearly every day at Buffalo org.

    The lure of the Bridge — but it’s going to take every last dollar.

    Explaining the e-meter — that Scientologists believe you can’t hide things from it.

    Putting into a trance state by asking the same question hundreds of times. Critics say it’s hypnotism

    Elli’s friend says the tech works.

    Elli goes Clear. Given a job at CC

    Elli becomes an auditor. Elli’s friend said she’d work day and night

    Then moves back to Buffalo. Refocuses on her children, now teenagers.

    Son Jeremy now having problems. Angry. Trouble at school. Friend says Elli was frustrated and didn’t understand.

    Jeremy drinking heavily. Petty theft. Elli tried to make him see that Scientology has the answers

    But Jeremy drifting further, time running out.

    Next break. Whew. The pacing on this is good.

    Part Three. Here we go. Jeremy seems normal, then from catatonic to manic.

    Elli then sees Jeremy having conversations with people who aren’t there.

    She gets him auditing! Woo hoo.

    Ortega says Hubbard’s hate for psychiatry permeates the organization.

    Jeremy tries auditing, TRs, but his condition doesn’t get better.

    Elli decides to send Jeremy to the Sea Org. He signs the billion-year contract.

    Jeremy goes to Flag in Florida. But he flunks the EPF and is sent home.

    Now Jeremy is seeing things, his illness is getting worse. Why can’t Scientology solve it?

    Jeremy’s lucid moments are getting rarer. He starts to lose a link with reality. Sits in a chair all night, unable to sleep.

    Taking a toll on Elli. No time for herself. She was wondering about the program she had him on, friend says.

    Aug 2002, wandering campus of a college, asking for a lover from 2,000 years ago. Whoops. Whole track auditing strikes again!

    He’s arrested and gets a psych eval, which horrifies Elli.

    No duh. He’s a schizophrenic. He needs to be admitted in a hospital and get medication, Elli is told by doctors.

    Elli won’t accept the diagnosis. No psych meds, of course.

    “THere are several ways mental illness are handled in Scientology. None of them are medically sound.” I said that. Whoa. I don’t remember that. Not bad, dope.

    Break time. Hey, this show is pretty good.

    In case you’re worried that your proprietor will be insufferable after this, it’s important to know that his two nieces are in the room and they are completely unimpressed. Heh.

    OK, back on. Elli rejects what the doctors want her to do, claiming a religious exemption.

    Elli blames herself, as Scientologists are trained to do. We’re not following Hubbard closely enough.

    Jeremy is PTS. Elli goes to a doctor who is a Scientologist in Pennsylvania, who gives an absurd diagnosis — a yeast infection.

    Jeremy is put on a vitamin regimen. Elli also told to keep him inside at all times.

    “The house arrest was probably not the best idea, looking back,” mother says.

    Kids getting more unhinged, and not getting any medical help. Jeremy gives up on the vitamins.

    Elli still won’t look for help outside Scientology. March 13, 2003 — Hubbard’s birthday.

    Elli painting glass. Tells Jeremy to take his vitamins and get a shower. But he gets agitated.

    Elli calls her husband, who comes home. Dad talks to Jeremy while he’s in the shower, then goes back to work. Elli callss a friend. Jeremy has reached a breaking point.

    Jeremy decides to kill himself. Gets a box cutter, and cuts at his wrists. But didn’t do too much damage, Sommer ssays. THen grabs a steak knife.

    Elli on the phone with friend when the attack happens. Wow.

    Elli’s friend screaming, then phone off. Husband calls 911. Police arrive.

    And now a break. Whew. Pulse racing.

    I wondered about the idea of doing a piece on a murder that happened 11 years ago. But the way they’re doing this, it’s really timeless.

    Final segment. Police arrive at the death scene. Jeremy told police Elli’s “face had changed” and she was evil, or something. He stabbed her 77 times.

    Prosecutor saying it was like nothing he’d ever seen. People shocked and horrified.

    Jeremy interrogated by police. He’s confused and delusional. Did he understand the nature of what he had done?

    Actual interview audio. This has been online before, I believe.

    Jeremy saying his mother’s face would change like she was the devil. His responses were bizarre. “Let me think. Yeah, I killed my mother.”

    Father and sister Danielle talk to police. They worry about how it will play in the media, and no bad press for Scientology.

    Ortega was Captain Obvious there for a second.

    Bingo — Prosecutor says you’d think the church would be the last concern you’d have.

    Ha ha. Explaining that Scientology has a spy wing, OSA.

    Perkins told not to talk to the media. Church closed ranks. Church had to act like they didn’t know Elli, who had been so loyal.

    They don’t prosecute Jeremy for murder. He was institutionalized.

    Sommer: No remorse from Scientology officials.

    Could this have been prevented. Yeah, it’s possible.

    Ending on a positive note: That Elli really cared for her son.

    (Who killed her. Derp.)

    And that’s it!

    • EnthralledObserver

      omg – how much do I love you for collating all that – will save me so much time! :)

    • Tory Christman

      Fantastic, Media_lush….thanks for the re-cap :)

    • Rita Gregory

      Thanks Lush!

    • Barbara Angel

      Thank you so much, I have crap internet and live in Australia so couldn’t watch, but anything that exposes the Evil co$ crap is just ***FANTASTIC***. Well done Mr Tony even tho’ I didn’t get to see it, or wasn’t able to see it. I still can’t believe these Evil Bastards are still getting away with stuff like this 11 years later. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Thank you for doing this!

    • Elen

      Gracias! Merci, danke & thank you very, very, very much!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    And this is why I say No Way to those who want to continue with this insanity, especially when they don’t know how to recognize mental illness, or physical, or putting children through this ordeal. And why it is Not a religion. It’s quackery and practicing medicine without a license. Period.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Amen!

      • Tory Christman

        $cientology SUCKS…plain and simple. They kill people OR drive them crazy OR bankrupt the masses, and then IF you disagree, they pitch you out, tear away ALL of your friends and any family still ‘in”…and wonder why most of the world DO NOT see them as a compassionate religion. POOF. (note: I was not pitched out…I woke up and left. However, it was STILL a shock to see how fast they turned on *me*.

        • aquaclara

          Your wake up was the best exit ever. And the joy of life on the outside speaks volumes to those still in….even, with a deviously happy touch! to the kool aid drinkers.

          How could ANYONE resist a happy Tory smile???!!!

          • Tory Christman

            ((smiling)) Thanks, aquaclara :) It was (and is) a wild ride!! :)

            • aquaclara

              *this is quite a ride!*

        • pronoia

          Because you can dance!!!! Which is totally out-tech and more importantly, all-too-human!

    • Captain Howdy

      And this means YOU Milestone Two!

      • Espiando

        We’re going to destroy them over Jeff Augustine’s dead body, Cap.

        • Captain Howdy

          Jeff’s wizard powers can’t stop us..and Jeff’s too nice to even contemplate that.

          • Sherbet

            I don’t know what you two are plotting, but it sounds dangerous. Wear your seat belt.

            • Captain Howdy

              The only thing I’m plotting is trying to get to bed before the sun comes up so I don’t sleep all day and feel exhausted when I wake up and don’t have the energy to put the vinyl mattress covers on my bed which I got last week which will prevent me from staying up all night because I’m scared of being something’s supper.

            • Sherbet

              Sorry that’s still going on Chez Howdy. Get to bed, you crazy insomniac.

            • Baby

              Awww Howdy.. shit.. Muster up energy and put the vinyl covers on honi..

            • MaxSpaceman

              Dude, there are housing programs in Boston area, for individuals on the dole. Supported Housing programs sponsored by Mass. you should look into. And move.

            • Captain Howdy

              I’ve been on housing lists for years. The average wait is 8 years.

        • Baby

          Espi.. be careful.. really..

  • Tony Ortega

    Your typical mainstream media treatment might poke some fun at Xenu. But by setting the table so carefully — about how even the low-level TRs are for setting in indoctrination, the show makes a lot more sense while having more respect for people like Elli. I really have no complaints.

    • Tory Christman

      Again, great job, Tony—and I only got to ‘see it, from the sidelines”. Thanks to your comments, I feel like I watched the show!

      • Sherbet

        You’ll like it, Tory. And, more important than liking it, you can believe it will have an effect on people who don’t know much about scientology.

        • DeElizabethan

          I think that is most important. The members will hardly ever see this, but having shows like this along with all else, will keep people from stepping into their door.

        • Tory Christman

          That is KEY, Sherbet :) Thank you!

    • Observer

      All involved did a great job, even Shirley. I think she represented Scientologists well, right down to the obdurate death grip on the “tech” which obviously does not work.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        What doesn’t mean it doesn’t work?
        It’s not like she has to wear glasses.

        Ok, on that note….my guilt is going to make me go to bed now.

      • Sherbet

        I’m not so sure. Shirley was captioned as a former scientologist, so — viewers might wonder — why does she believe auditing absolutely works? Maybe it does — viewers might wonder. It just didn’t work in Jeremy’s case. Anyway, it’s a moot point and splitting hairs and all those cliches. It was a super show, and it made its point.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          The makeup did not work any better than the tech.

          • Sherbet

            Oooh, you’re almost meaner than I am, LWH.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              This shit makes me furious and she’s just sitting there begging to be ridiculed with her stupid ass “tech works” comment. That is preposterous given the subject matter.

            • Sherbet

              Damn right, L. Wrong. (An oxymoron if I’ve ever heard one.)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Damn skippy Sherb. I’m the sanest, most ethical buttplug you’ll ever meet in this sector of the gulaxy.

            • Sherbet

              Exactamundo, Elwrongo. Not that I encounter too many, um, well, I just don’t. ’nuff said about that.

        • Observer

          She’s an indie, and they claim to be the only true Scientologists. And it’s obvious that she’s still a believer, since pretty much all she did was avow how well Scn works, when, Xenu forgive me, her physical presence puts the lie to those claims.

          • Sherbet

            My quibbling little point was that viewers who don’t know a church scientologist from an indie might wonder how this former scientologist had lots of praise for auditing. But it’s just one silly point. Scientology will get an uglier rep from shows like this.

            • Observer

              Ah, I see. I seem to be impaired by skunk fumes.

            • Sherbet

              Tomato juice, stat.

            • Espiando

              With the vodka on standby. If you can’t shut out the skunk through normal means, a Bloody Mary won’t hurt.

            • Sherbet

              And throw the celery stick to the skunk.

            • Captain Howdy

              I was in a program for 2 years on an island in Boston Harbor and it had a healthy raccoon & skunk population and when we went out to smoke at night they’d be walking around around without a care. The skunks would routinely walk between my legs when i was sitting there smoking. I realized the thing with skunks is that they are more or less blind and everything with them is based on smell. If you don’t panic neither do they.

            • pronoia

              Skunks are actually very sweet little animals . . . until they are freaked out and scared. Helpless creatures that they are, they just spray their stink. Very easy to domesticate. Unlike raccoons.

            • Captain Howdy

              My wife had a raccoon when she was young that they named Hendrix. She said he would sit up on the couch just like a person watching TV. The only time he would get nasty is when they would let him dip his paws in a whiskey glass.

            • Observer

              Our local skunks seem to be extra twitchy.

    • Narapoid

      I am glad Xenu wasn’t there. The mind and life control is the story that the volcano story obscures. Thanks Tony, I hope I can see the film soon. The bar was set high from the History Channel program.

  • DeElizabethan

    Thank you Tony, this was great. Appreciated all the help too. Can’t wait to see it for real!

  • Lurkness

    well done TO!

  • Observer

    Not only am I lying here seething with rage (it’s my bedtime), we’ve just been skunkbombed. I suppose it’s appropriate somehow.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Those varmints won’t cut you a break.

      • Observer

        It hasn’t been bad for a month or so. I guess we were due.

    • Missionary Kid

      How did OSA find you?

    • Baby

      If it makes you feel better Obs… I ran out to recycle my diet coke cans and a Snake slithered out of the brush.. Scared the Shit out of me..

      I ran back in..

      • Sherbet

        I think you both are experiencing a good allegory for scientology: If it stinks and slithers around, run the other way. :-)

        • Baby

          Absolutely..Sherb.. and it was during the commercial.. when I said I got sidetracked ..hahaha

      • Robert Eckert
        • Baby

          hahahhaha Really.. the timing was perfect!

      • Vaquera

        Serpent handlin’ again, Baby? Jeez, it’s not even Sunday.

      • D.Y.G.

        I stepped on a black snake in my basement in the half-dark and wondered why the garden hose was wiggling.

  • Captain Howdy

    This story doesn’t get any easier to hear how ever many times you hear it.
    Good job everybody.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Fine production.

  • Tory Christman

    Thank you ALL :) I love you, Tony…and each of you here.
    This is one tragic story, showing the true evil of $cientology: PERIOD.
    Peace and love :) Tory/Magoo

  • VargasZiegfeld

    You’re a star, Tony!

  • Snippy_X

    Someone asked this already down there, but are the father and daughter still in?

    • aquaclara

      I think so. The daughter, yes. The father was….

  • http://www.crackpots.us/ DamOTclese2

    You may think there’s not really evil personified in the world, and as an atheist I tend to think not, however what Scientology does to people is pure evil — and it’s the evil that does it knowing they’re committing frauds, watching their victims kill each other and swindle from each other, and so long as upper management gets their cut of the take, all is fine.

    • ReneeG

      Scientology itself is not evil. Ideas and words on a page cannot be evil, only PEOPLE can be evil. David Miscavige is EVIL. L Ron Hubbard was EVIL. DM uses the the tool of Scientology to use people for their own aggrandizement, just like LRH did.

      • aquaclara

        Practices can indeed be evil.
        Murder.
        Fraud.
        Harassment.
        Malpractice of the sort that NN provides.

        There is much more.

      • Mark Foster

        The IDEA that you can willingly enslave, manipulate, defraud, degrade, and crush people while pretending to offer hope, and spiritual freedom to them is an evil one. Yes, the idea…which then generates evil behavior…

        • Richard Grant

          Mark, I think you’ve touched on what I find most puzzling and disturbing about Scientology: that these ideas that formed in L Ron Hubbard’s mind have somehow retained their power, after so many decades, to cause an entire group of people to behave like sociopaths — willfully and heartlessly inflicting suffering on others, lying without compunction, flouting the norms of human decency.

          I’ve never doubted that ideas have power, but this is a really weird and vivid demonstration of that seemingly dry and academic principle.

          • Mark Foster

            Emphatically agree!

          • Mooser

            “after so many decades, to cause an entire group of people to behave like sociopaths”

            Funny, isn’t it? The ideas that most cause people to act like that are the ideas with the least validity.

    • Sarah James

      Dianetics and scientology teach believers to practice medicine without a licence. From barley water for babies to vitamins for cancer and high BP, I agree scientology is most evil and david miscavige is fraud.

      • DeElizabethan

        Hubboard wrote the fraud, which they take a sacred.

        • Sarah James

          You don’t have to tell me lol, I grew up with Dianetics in the home. micavige holds to the lie and I judge him now for not ending hubbards whoppers. hubbard loved the fake religion and jerking people around. miscavige loves the money and jerking people around.

          • Barbara Angel

            Don’t forget the strong *stench* of sadism and the sheer joy they both experienced/experience in making others suffer and then laughing at them.

            • Sarah James

              Those pc folders come in handy for just that reason!

    • 1subgenius

      I don’t think one needs to believe in God to know there is evil in the world.
      .
      I believe some truths are self-evident.

    • Mooser

      “upper management gets their cut of the take, all is fine”

      It’s like a psychological “combat zone” (an area in which all normal laws and consequences are voided.) It’s a matrix in which those being defrauded don’t even have the everyday possibilities of being warned or helped (cause they are in “the bubble”) and the defrauders are, far from being punished or simply stopped, are encouraged and rewarded. And for those who really enjoy that kind of thing, you can have both! Defrauded and tortured by those above you , while you defraud and torture the hell out of anybody below you!

  • D.Y.G.

    Here’s what the sister sent in a letter to Mark Sommer of Buffalo News when he was doing his series on Scientology and Jeremy Perkins –

    Perkins’ sister, Danielle, in her letter to The News said: “My brother has been confined to the hands of psychiatry for the past two years. They have tried every psychotropic drug available to “help’ him to no avail.”

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/Articles/buffalo-news-2005-01-30.html

    She’s full of shit. In the CBS 48 hours piece, Jeremy Perkins’ attorney said he was a model patient after being medicated.

    • Baby

      Wow Doggie.. Yep.. she’s still in.. PITY

      • D.Y.G.

        This was back in 2005, but I haven’t seen anything to suggest she or the father left the cherch yet.

      • Vaquera

        Maybe she meant psychiatry hadn’t helped him, but rather medicated him to mask the symptoms. She probably thinks Scientology would actually CURE him…..not!

        • DeElizabethan

          Scientologists justify everything that goes against the tech or Ron’s teaching. They take no responsibility whatsoever.

        • pronoia

          Masking the symptoms. What crap. For a person who is suffering (and believe me the suffering is tremendous) a masking of symptoms can be an enormous relief. Not easy. Not instant. But way better than being driven by hallucinations.

          • Vaquera

            Yep. That’s my point.

          • Mooser

            And there’s a big difference between “masking symptoms” and “relieving symptoms”
            I’m pretty sure that when a person takes psychiatric medications properly, their symptoms can be relieved. They are not being “masked”

    • Sherbet

      Nice find.

      • D.Y.G.

        I’ve read the articles twice in two days. That paragraph really stuck in my head.

    • aquaclara

      Omg. Danielle has lost her life to the cult- her mother, brother, husband and father. This leaves her with no other life. So, full of shit or someone who knows nothing else–it’s all bad.

      For Jeremy, I hope he has a chance at a semi-normal life, if even for moments at a time. He was in awful shape. His mother was the victim. But in so many ways, so was he.

      Damn this cult. It leaves no pain alone.
      Rip, Elli.
      God bless you, Jeremy.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      This is an interesting link also. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/CoverUp/

  • nottrue

    It all started here…….Elli I wish you would have keep walking……

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    So we have seen how Scientology deals with schizophrenia. Being a person with autism, I wonder how they treat autism spectrum disorders?

    I know the story of Jett Travolta and how John denied he had autism until he admitted it under oath.

    • Sarah James

      Kelly Preston does not speak of her first born son with Keven Gage. If something is wrong with a child born to scientology parents they won’t keep the child. The child pulled it in from past life, translation, that money spent on ill child belongs to us the church.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        But what I am specifically interested in is what sort of “medical” treatments Scientology autistics are put through. Considering what happened with Jeremy, I imagine their autism methods are neither standard nor helpful.

        I do know of a former Scientologist (25 year veteran) named Jim Humble who was disconnected and started his own cult. He sells a liquid compound that he sells to parents of autistic children. What he doesn’t mention is that the compound is industrial strength bleach.

        • Frodis73

          How could they not smell that it’s bleach? Wtf kinda idiot is this dude…and his clients.

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            “Clients” are expected to ingest the compound (Miracle Mineral Solution) through an enema, which means they can’t smell it. Also means their intestines become corroded.

            • Frodis73

              I still find it hard to believe they can’t smell it. Anyway, if you know this to be true, you need to report this asshole.

            • doggywoggy
            • kemist

              There is a whole category of woo-woo enthusiasts who are absolutely obsessed with pushing stuff up their butts, from coffee to bleach.

              I have no idea where this weird fetish comes from.

            • Mooser

              “where this weird fetish comes from”

              There are few drugs which are delivered by suppository, in some cases. But there’s a huge fad for ‘intestinal cleansing’ by laxative or cathartics, has been for several hundred years.

              If you are reasonably healthy, eat a varied diet and get some exercise, your body will handle that end of things by itself, requiring only a minimum of assistance.

        • Sarah James

          They don’t recognise autism or many other illnesses like cancer.

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            So there is no medical treatment or intervention, or even a safety net? Dumbasses.

            • Sarah James

              Your right. Children are just little adults and if you can’t treat them the scientology way then off load them. It’s their problem, they pulled it in. Adults are treated the same way. Ask Tory.

        • Tory Christman

          “medical” treatments? Sebastian—-$cientology now (thanks to some of us fighting C of $ re medicine for years (me for 30 years)…they now have signs up all over: “If you have a medical condition, see a Doctor” (They used to try to say Dianetics fixed it) HA!

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            I’m a Scientology watcher, but quack autism treatments are my bread and butter and I wondered what nonsense they could put auties through. The worst thing possible, it turns out: jack shit.

            • Tory Christman

              “Dianetics” ..they would start with, and then milk the person (or family) for as much $$$$ as they possibly can, promising “Ok, THIS did NOT fix it….but this next ____ will”. RIGHT. (If you’re lurking and have a medical condition, DO NOT KID YOURSELF—-Get out of $cientology, get a “real Doctor” (NOT a $cientologist) and take back *your* life. Realize $cientology has zip, zero, no, none, nadda tools to help you. They can only MILK you, and eventually pitch you OUT as a “downstat” “Low toned” “degraded being” “low responsibility” “Out Ethics” and of course the Big Kahoonanna: “PTS”. (spit) BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN. Tory/Magoo

            • Jenstnick

              Sadly, there are many autism parents who fall for quack advice or what is known as the “biomedical approach” that involves supplements and chelation therapy and other weird stuff that has no scientific backing. As the parent of a child with autism, I see people pouring money and time into this crap and there’s no improvements. I’m curious to see if there is a Scilon link to this bullshit.

            • Mooser

              “I’m curious to see if there is a Scilon link to this bullshit.”

              There’s no lack of people besides Scientologists willing to prey on those who are ill, or challenged in some way.

            • Jenstnick

              I googled it. Most of those ridiculous DAN! Doctors are Scilons. I should have known from the inappropriate use of the exclamation mark.

      • Ruby

        Kelly never had a child with Kevin Gage.

        • Sarah James

          Kelly will love you for saying that. Do a little digging.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I tried once – but came up with nothing. Do you have a paper trail or internet trail of evidence to direct me to?

            • Sarah James

              It’s been over a year ago but I think I started with Jenna Miscavige Hill’s site and from there I went down many rabbit holes. It’s my understanding this child is being taken care of by her mother.

            • Ruby

              Not true…any of it. Jett was her first born.

            • Baby
            • Frodis73

              I just read the same thing about a month ago at a couple different sites, but I don’t remember where.

          • Robert Eckert

            I believe that was a spoof on LRH’s famous “I never had a second wife”

      • Baby
        • Jerseygram

          Wow, interesting. I never knew that.

    • Tory Christman

      I can tell you exactly how they treat autism; they don’t. They do NOT recognize it as “It’s a psych term”.
      Same as for me with Epilepsy—which has nothing to do with psychs. What did they do? Took me off of my much needed medication, made me wrong for having Grand Mal Seizures….until my Mom called and heard how screwed up I was. In her words: “Either your Doctor calls me TODAY and you are back on your medication TODAY *or* I will be flying out from Chicago to LA tonight. And trust me on this: L Ron Hubbard and $cientology will NEVER forget YOUR MOM! (She saved my life #1)

      • Ruby

        yay Mom!

      • LHS

        It’s great that your mom was looking out for your health, Tory!

        Epilepsy used to be treated as a psychiatric problem and people would be institutionalized for having it, but that was quite a long time ago. It sounds like Scientologists are woefully outdated on this subject, which is not a surprise; apparently they also think lobotomies and forced electroshock therapy are still commonplace.

        • Tory Christman

          So true, LHS: I was *literally* treated as you see people treating lepers in movies.
          It was quite a shock…and why I am SOOOOOOOOOOO happy to be OUT. :)

      • pronoia

        Great moms make even greater daughters. The apple is a manifestation of the apple blossom! You are blessed Tory — and in turn you are such a blessing to so many!

        • Tory Christman

          awwwwww….thank you, pronoia :) I will tell you, re my own son:
          After the 1st kid we knew hung himself, I took my son
          to Sea World and explained this happened to his friend. Even though I was still
          *way* “in” the mind control, I told him: “I THINK this is my
          religion. BUT—you have to know 2 things: 1) IF you kill yourself, *I* will be
          dead 2 minutes after I find you”. He laughed and said, “Don’t worry
          Mom, it’s not in the cards.”

          Then (to my shock, to this day) I told him: “I THINK this is my religion.
          BUT #1 is you are MY SON. So IF you don’t want to do $cientology—just tell me
          now and it’s D O N E.

          He said then, (Years ago–at least 5 before I woke up and escaped out): “I
          don’t want to do it. I want a ‘real life. I’ve watched all of you (get fucked
          over, basically, and end up with nothing). I don’t want that. I want a
          life”. So I said, “Ok, it’s a DONE. Just don’t tell people or they’ll
          all disconnect from you.” As soon as he stopped doing courses, they did
          anyways. Sick FUCKS. I love my son…and I’m SO happy I had that insight then.
          Blessings and love :) Tory/Magoo

          • Tory Christman

            His best friend (and the son of my then BFF) shot himself to death, the next year. :(
            He was taken off of his tubes at 8 pm the exact time my son left for Europe. We all decided it best NOT to tell him…as I knew he would not go, and I knew the trip WOULD change his life (and help him get out of the $cientology-Truman show, which it DID). I now know 10 young people who took their own lives. So sad, so very, very sad. IT SHOULD **NOT** BE. There is NO reason, except $cientology’s sick shit they run on people. If you’re “in” and see this: GET OUT. Call me if you’re in LA—I’ll come pick you up tonight: (818) 588-3044 STOP SUFFERING AND DELUDING YOURSELF. Love to ALL here :) Tory/Magoo

            • Baby

              Tory you have literally been through hell and back.. You have my love and respect. You were definitely in Mama Bear mode.. smooches One day we will meet.

            • Tory Christman

              Thank you, Baby! So true, so very true. Thankfully wonderful people like you (and many others) have helped me walk out of the fire….into the light :)

            • Baby

              and such a light it is, huh? And you are just so present in the Anti movement.. Amazing woman you are! Go to bed!

          • 1subgenius

            Tory,
            Years ago now, just after Anonymous came along, I took a flyer, and called you.
            I was thrilled and amazed that you answered, and we had a nice chat.
            During that call I casually asked if you had any kids, and you, quite understandably declined to answer. But I always wondered, so thanks for sharing.
            You will always have a friend in Detroit.

            • Tory Christman

              Thank you, 1subgenius! I remember that call :) Yes, for many, many years I was EXTREMELY Protective about my son….due to ALL the kids I knew who had taken their own lives. I still am…..as I KNOW OSA will work any method to F**** a person over. Trust me on this, Yaude or OSA OPS: You F*** with me or my family in ANY way—-it WILL go viral. It already has. As I told you when I was “in”: YOU are C R E A T I N G your own enemies. You continue to do so, to this day. Love to ALL here!! Tory/Magoo

            • 1subgenius

              I can’t believe you remember the call.
              Your statement to your son about what would happen if he killed himself rings true with every normal parent, as the loss of a child is virtually unbearable.
              I’m glad he responded the way he did. I’m sure you are very proud of him, and he of you.
              All the best to you and yours.

    • chukicita

      If you are challenged with an autism spectrum disorder, Scientology’s response to you would be that a) it’s your fault, and b) Scientology, if you do it right, can help you with that. Credit card number, please. It didn’t help? Oh, you didn’t do it right. Why are you not doing it right? Rinse and repeat.

      I’m sure autism spectrum disorders are not recognized by Scientology, Inc. The organization devotes significant resources to insisting mental health professionals are enemies of humankind, through its front group ironically named Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR). If you call CCHR, they are not interest in human rights, only in destroying mental health professionals. Their traveling “Psychiatry: Industry of Death” installation reflects this, as do announcements at Scientology, Inc. events about how many “psychs” they’ve put in prison.

      It’s all about yelling louder than the people who can tell your marks that you’re conning them.

      Scientology shouldn’t be treating anything, ever. Practicing medicine without a license is not cool, and was a motivation for the organization to suddenly become a “religion.”

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    There’s one part of this story that never quite settled right with me. When Jeremy was kicked out of the Sea Org, most likely on what is called Fitness Board, a scientology parent would know that they need to look for other options outside the usual. The Sea Org will take just about anything that is still showing breath on the mirror. With an FB reject, there usually are orders for the person or the parent if a minor to take certain courses of action that would be considered “acceptable” to Ethics. I am wondering if Jeremy was put on an Introspection Rundown, like Lisa McPherson, along with the vitamin regime and what internal pressures were put on Eli to follow those orders. I can’t imagine that a regular field auditor or regular auditing actions would be allowed to come anywhere near him after being fitness boarded out with obvious signs of mental illness.

    And that Introspection Rundown madness would have flipped him off the edge with no doubt whatsoever.

    • Frodis73

      That’s a really good question…maybe someday Jeremy will talk more about it. Last I heard he was medicated and doing okay. Well, as well as can be while being institutionalized with schizophrenia that is. Seriously, it would be great to hear his side one day of everything that went down. He’s smart, the more sane he gets, I bet he has questions himself about the whole thing.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Thanks, yes, it would be good tohear.

      • D.Y.G.

        Don’t count on him talking anytime soon. The family shitcanned the wog lawyer after he appeared on the 48 hours episode in 2006 and they hired a Scientology-approved lawyer. He’s still being “handled”.

        • Frodis73

          D’oh! That really sucks. Maybe if he gets well enough he can fire that lawyer and get another one…even a public defender would be better than a bought lawyer from our fav “church”.

          • D.Y.G.

            I haven’t seen the court documents, but I imagine after he’s been adjudicated non compos mentis by the courts the father has guardianship over some of his affairs. Luckily, treatment and institutionalization aren’t part of those affairs.

            I hope for his sake he’s not released into that family’s care, ever.

        • Tory Christman

          No doubt…and will be for the rest of his ‘life’ ….so sad, so VERY sad.
          Just like Mary Sue Hubbard—she never spoke to *anyone* except those approved.
          I saw her more than once at the “AMC” movies…..just “hi” and body guards walked her away.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thought this story couldn’t be worse. damn.

    • Captain Howdy

      Who was the handler? Wasn’t Denise Miscavige involved?

      • Ruby

        Denise???? OMG…we all know how responsible she is!

        • Captain Howdy

          I may be confusing it with the Kyle Brennan tragedy.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I don’t remember and am in the middle of something atm.

            • Espiando

              Denise Miscavige was involved in the Kyle Brennan mess. I don’t think she was involved in this one.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I did a quick check and I don’t see any names other than the ethics officer, Anne-Marie Dunning, and that he was declared Type III. Since his family were all staff, that meant they had to do something or lose a whole boatload of slaves, including auditors that were making profits for them. Type 3 would mean a high possibility of Introspection … enough to drive sane people mad.

            • whingeybingey

              Yes, I’ve never known Type 3 not to result in an introspection rundown.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Holy cow, am I late for this party or what???

    We do not get ID, as far as I know, and we are not even home right now, anyway. I got me some Bunker readin’ to do…

    • Sherbet

      You sure do, Dougie D. Luckily, you have study tech under your belt. You learned it vicariously in the Bunker. :-D

    • Robert Eckert

      Media Lush was kind enough to collate TonyO’s comments on the show in order.

  • Georget1952

    Really good show about a horrible death, and how the Cherch’s hatred of psychiatry may have played a part in it. I was glad to see the part with the husband and daughter talking to the detective, and how they appeared to be more concerned with how the Cherch would be portrayed than they were with their own wife’s/mother’s murder. A story about a mother who loved her son so much and would do anything to help him, but based on the teachings of El R Aitch refused to believe the doctor’s diagnosis of Schizophreniia.

    How sad a story, I was crying by the end of the show. Crying heartfelt tears of both sadness and anger for a family that will never be the same again. For a son who, once placed on medication that allowed him to see and think clearly, has to live with the fact that he killed his mother. For the family and friends of Elli Perkins who miss her every day. And the tears of anger are directed at a company that hides behind a veil of religion and deceptions. One day, the veil will be lifted by force and all will be revealed. That will not bring back Elli nor will it bring back all the countless others who have been left by the side of the road, but it will at least bring a small amount of satisfaction to those who have waited for years for the truth to come out.

    Edit: You were great on the show, Tony O. !! :)

    • aquaclara

      Perfectly stated.
      Thanks.

      RIP, Elli.

      • Georget1952

        Thank You XO

    • DeElizabethan

      It also will prevent another of same type incident, as it cuts into the percentage of new slaves.

      • Georget1952

        Exactly, DE! I hope this gets alot of people talking in the morning. I also hope that people will do searches for Scn and learn about it from both sides. I say both sides because people will see what the people who have left the Cherch have to say, and then what the Cherch says about the people who have left. Just that alone will give people who know nothing about Scn a true and scary peek of what the Cherch says and does to people who have the audacity to “blow”.

        • DeElizabethan

          Exactly!

  • Tony Ortega

    West Coast broadcast and East Coast repeat coming up in half an hour.

  • SLIM

    Now I get to see it..Bout time..

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT.

    LONDON (AP) — Model and TV personality Peaches Geldof died from a heroin overdose after relapsing from a battle to give up the drug, a British coroner ruled Wednesday.

    Coroner Roger Hatch said Geldof took a fatal dose of high-purity heroin shortly before she was found dead at her home south of London on April 7.

    • jeff

      Yesterday’s news.

      • MaxSpaceman

        ok. shoot me. I was surprised by the outcome.

        • jeff

          Sorry, I’m not the violent type. But, I’m not at all surprised by the outcome of the inquest.

      • Captain Howdy

        Uh, the results of the autopsy were released today.

        • jeff

          Well, I read it last night which was today (yesterday) in England, where it’s now tomorrow.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      So. Does this mean that she’s not going to show for the Birmingham Ideal Org opening?

      Church of Scientology to open new HQ in Moseley June 9, 2010, Birmingham Mail

      • Captain Howdy

        Well, L Rum did claim that scientology could raise the dead.

  • SLIM

    Looking quite dapper there…Mr Ortega…..Good job…

  • Captain Howdy

    ….

    • Missionary Kid

      Cap’n, you caught the two concepts perfectly.

  • Unex Skcus

    OT – but interesting:
    Review: Luc Besson’s “Lucy” Is Fast-Paced And Eye-Popping If Silly
    French director Luc Besson has done something quite unexpected with his new film “Lucy,” possibly unintentionally. He has made the first movie to successfully ape the ideas of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanleaf/2014/07/23/review-luc-bessons-lucy-is-fast-paced-and-eye-popping-if-silly/

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Morning – woke up early.
    What happened to the Live Blog?
    edit- nevermind – Thanks Media_Lush !!!

    • DeElizabethan

      LOL, then thought you serious, so read on and all will be clear for ya! Time for sleep here.

      • Baby

        Night sweetie..xoxo love baby

    • Missionary Kid

      Media Lush summarized it.

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Oh lookie! The quack doctor who diagnosed Jeremy Perkins with yeast infections and whatnot, prescribed vitamins and chelation therapy, claimed that he never treated Jeremy Perkins at his clinic.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20081201235412/http://www.drmaulfair.com/jeremyperkins.htm

    48 Hours Cover-up of the Real Jeremy Perkins Story

    Although we never treated Jeremy at our clinic, we were shocked and terribly saddened when we heard he had murdered his mother, Elli Perkins.
    [..]

    It’s 2014, why is this quack still licensed?

    • richelieu jr

      Great work, RM.

      What a scumbag. He doesn’t even have the courage of how bullshit convictions, which puts him further down the list than the poor boy who killed his mother. At least he copped to truly believing she had a ‘devil face’.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Trying to figure out if Ellie’s husband Don Perkins is still in the cult. He hasn’t taken a course since 2005. But he still seems to work for Wiliiamstown Construction which is a scilon business and where he worked when she was killed. I think he is still in.

    • richelieu jr

      Moron.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ REMINDER +–+RED X +–+ REMINDER ***
    If Any body is awake and is in the mood, there is a 5 minutes flagging
    job through yesterday’s Alerts and updates:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-104#post-2473290

    For those who have not gone through the Regional daily list,
    looking for BLUES and/or checking your Area, go also here:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-104#post-2473202

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty AP

    • Graham

      Took me a leisurely 6 minutes to flag all on the ‘additions since 4am edt’ list. Three are already ‘flagged for removal’ plus one of the Bostons immediately below.

      Tick-tock Slappy. The Bunker never sleeps!

  • Tory Christman

    Ok, it’s Midnight and I just got back from watching the show! What a trip to read it here earlier as it was showed on the East coast (and all of the play-by-plays by Tony+ Everyone’s great comments! ) …and then go watch the show, here on the West Coast! Again, thank you ALL :) May Elli R.I.P. and Jeremy find a better life, somehow, some way. Peace and love to all and thank each of you for helping expose this story! **hugs** Tory/Magoo

    • Baby

      ((HUGS)))) back sweet Tory

  • Sydjazz

    I can’t even read the blow by blow :( why wont it load for me

    • Artoo45

      I don’t see it either, just three entries up to chinese food . . .

      • Karen715

        Tony did his live blogging in the comments, instead of in the article.

        • Artoo45

          Thanks!

        • Elen

          Thanks Karen… I was looking for the live updates too…. I guess it’s scroll through the +1000 comments time!! At least I know where to look!

  • Elar Aitch

    Quite the night folks (empties dust pan into the rubbish bin)

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Statsday the 24th of July

    List of about 75 ads loaded since yesterday.
    We will add to this list as the scilons are posting their BS.
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-104#post-2473399

    Yesterday’s full regional list with Boston & JJ is here:
    http://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-104#post-2473202

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty Ap

    • aquaclara

      Thanks, Pierrot. Just flagged all, and will be keeping up with the day’s new ones.

      This daily list is great-if we can knock them down fast, then off they go….

      You’ve made it so easy for us.

  • Once_Born

    Streaming video of “The Scientology cure” is now available here http://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/the-scientology-cure-video-the-church-of-scientologys-part-in-the-death-of-eli-perkins/

    This took a little longer to come through than I thought… but I should be able to add a downloadable version later.

    • Jo

      Thanks, watching it now :)

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Nice One !

    • chukicita

      thanks, i wasn’t able to see it last night

    • richelieu jr

      Thanks so much for this, OB! It can be so difficult to keep up with stuff when you aren’t in the States (or even an anglophone country!)…

      Strangely enough, it is a streaming site I only just discovered last night thru my sis! How funny!i

    • Aslansown

      Thanks – I just watched it. How very sad. That picture of him looking so skeletal and sick just made me want to cry.

    • i-Betty

      Thanks so much for the link, OB. I will watch it now :)

  • NOLAGirl

    ID did a better job than I expected on last nights show. I was whacked on the pain killer I took for my toes and passed out right after. Of course NOLAHubby sat next to me with his usually commentary of “This is so fucked up!!” which is often his response to Co$ stories like this. Tony, excellent job as usual. I’m very glad they laid off the celebrity & the Xenu angle and kept this about Elli & Jeremy.

    The church quickly wiping their hands of this was still, to me, the most disgusting part. I can only hope that someday, all these ghosts will come back to haunt them.

    Thanks all for the comments, especially Media_Lush, that made me feel like I didn’t miss a thing. :)

  • mpl

    The whole show was sooo sad. I felt so, so terrible for Jeremy. They kept showing this horrifying picture of him and he just looked so ill and skeletal. I’m very, very sorry for Elli – she seemed like a really good person who was very misguided – but also very sorry to say that she brought it on herself. It’s awful to say, but true. May she rest in peace, and may Jeremy finally also find peace in the institution.
    Also, HOORAY for Tony! Such a great job, Tony. And the entire show was good. I think the ID channel generally does a good job with background stories and research, and this was no exception (in fact, due to the caliber of the commentators such as Tony, this episode may have been one of the best!)

  • BosonStark

    What did Shirley mean by saying the Church is not equipped to handle psychotic people? Dr. Hubtard said this about the Introspection Rundown:”THIS MEANS THE LAST REASON TO HAVE PSYCHIATRY AROUND IS GONE”, because “I have made a technical breakthrough which possibly ranks with the major discoveries of the Twentieth Century.” “Its results are nothing short of miraculous.”

    And it’s simple to do, and flubless!

    I guess Shirley has an MU. Maybe Steve Hall can security check her. Dr. Hubtard had all the answers.

    • richelieu jr

      Exactly, BosonStark! No amount of indie slip n’ slide can get around this. If everything Hubbard said was true, than this is true.

  • ze moo

    For a 45 minute expose on the Perkins tragedy, ID did fairly well. The segments with TonyO, former DA and family friends and policemen put it in very good perspective. They laid the blame squarely on the CO$, right where it belongs. I want to know the name of the clam doctor in Pennsylvania who blamed Jeremy’s condition on intestinal bacteria and heavy metal poisoning. That diagnosis came directly from Lroon, hello medical association?

    One part of the story is misleading, Jeremy Perkins is not confined to a mental hospital for his lifetime. At least every year, the staff will evaluate him and decide if he is a danger to himself or others. If they decide he is well enough, he can be released. The treatment teams decision will have to be approved by a court, but that is usually pro forma. He could be out in the community by now.

    In 2002 or 03 a 26 year old schizophrenic woman killed a 64 year old bipolar woman at a NY State Psych hospital. The woman was found guilty of murder, but that decision was overturned and the insanity clause was invoked and she was sent to a psychiatric hospital. Six years later she was back on the streets. You can only be confined to a psychiatric hospital against your will under very well regulated circumstances. Usually, when you are not a threat to yourself or others, you can and must be released.

  • richelieu jr

    Sorry, I haven’t made it all the way thru the comments– but is there a pace this will be streaming, or in a torrent/magnet site?

  • richelieu jr

    The kid has one up on the Scilon doc who blamed everything on a yeast infection,and on those highly ethical scumbags at the ‘cherch’– At least he copped to truly believing she had a ‘devil face’.

    You gotta wonder if that ‘devil face’ had red hair and a cyst, or if it was more of the shrimpy, steely-grinned, 37-viagra-pills-in Miscavige variety

  • Jimmy3

    I came here to say that I saw Tony on TV last night, but it looks like a few people have already mentioned it.

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    So typical, in a similar tragedy :
    Scientology cited in killings July 10, 2007, David Braithwaite, Sydney Morning Herald

    But a spokeswoman for Scientology’s Australian arm, Vicki Dunstan, said she doubted the family belonged to the church. It had no knowledge of them and had never had contact with them.

  • Carisa Marion

    What’s with the goofy way the actress is clenching the cans and holding them in front of her?! You’d think someone involved knew enough to tell them how to make it realistic.

    • richelieu jr

      Yes, because holding those cans was such a ‘realistic’ experience.

      I’m sure that’s not the way it went down, but you have to realize that for most people the idea of believing that sort of nonsense would imply that you’d have to be a slobbering idiot… Everyone here knows that’s not the case and that plenty of well)educated, enormously intelligent people held those cans and hoped for the best, but it is hard for the ordinary person to swallow…

      A director in this situation often has to choose between the ‘reality’ of what happ)ened, and what will be perceived as ‘real’ by the average viewer. What does it matter if it is ‘true’ or ‘right’ if no one believes it, right? Will they pose experts outside each building to say, ‘Yes, seems ridiculous, but we really were that calm and blasé about blowing our lives’ savings and children’s hope for the future on magic beans and e-meter results!”

      There’s probably a bit of that here, though I imagine most of it is due to so-so direction, and a lack of budget that wouldn’t allow for every person to become an expert on what really happened. They probably shot it in less than a week and somehtinglike that would ahve been dismissed even if someone brought it up on the basis that only one person in 10k would know, and that person probably didn’t need to learn any more about Scientology… Not only that, but anyone being that nit-picky and getting in the way of the production would have been suspected of being a Scilon set on screwing up the shoot.

  • Sexecution

    Why is Perkins in prison at all? It wasn’t his fault he was born into a cult with irrational beliefs about mental illnesses, and as a church it blames ghosts of aliens for mental problems instead of getting the ill person the help they need. His parents were not stupid people and had the financial means to pay for the victim to spend nearly a quarter of a million dollars to be an “ot III” and continuously donate to the “church”, but his parents knew he was delusional, and so dangerous his own father had to fire him from his job. He couldn’t live on his own, he sounds like he couldn’t even keep himself clean unless forced by his mother to bathe regularly. How is this his fault, he was a paranoid schizophrenic, who should have at the most gotten involuntary manslaughter, and actual treatment for his serious mental illness. Buffalo is crazy for getting involved with these people, there are more mentally ill untreated people who have moved into the area just because of this “church”, basic statistics would bare that out. Or is the “church” simply hoping no one else who has untreated psychiatric problems kills? A woman is dead, and it turns out she was prophetic. It’s just a religion, it’s not like it’s going to kill me. How wrong she was.

    It’s incredible they used this woman’s death to solicit funds for the “church” instead of for the family. Insane.

    • richelieu jr

      He isn’t in prison, but in a hospital for the mentally insane who have committed crimes,where one can only hope he is getting treatment…

      I would certianly prefer to see him happy, healthy and cured and David Crispanus behind bars being passed around like an old Rigth Guard, but let’s not confuse the facts…