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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Why is Scientology’s cruise ship caught up in a lawsuit about human slavery?

FreewindsHullIn 2005, two Cuban workers showed up in the town of Willemstad, on the island of Curaçao in the Caribbean, and said they had escaped hellish conditions at a nearby drydock facility, where they’d been held for years. A third worker had made his own escape from the drydock a few months earlier.

One of the three men had worked at the facility a decade. The other two had arrived in 2001 and 2002. They said that they, along with about a hundred other men, were forced into the jobs as part of a deal to pay off Cuba’s debt to the Curaçao Drydock Company. After they had arrived, their passports were seized and they had been working 112 hours a week and under dangerous conditions for only about three cents an hour. The rest of the $6.90 an hour they were supposed to be earning went to pay off Cuba’s debt.

In 2002 one of the men, Alberto Justo Rodriguez Licea, fell and broke his foot and ankle when the system suspending him while he scraped rust from a hull snapped. He was sent back to Cuba, and after he healed, was then returned to Curaçao to keep working. In 2004, plaintiff Fernando Alonso Hernandez was returned to Cuba after burning his hand while welding steel. He too was returned to the drydock after he had healed.

And the third man, Luis Alberto Casanova Toledo, may have had it the worst. In 2005, he was working in tight quarters and in the presence of water while electricity was being used.

Mr. Casanaova Toledo received a shock so severe that the electricity shot out of his tongue, leaving him bleeding from it. Mr. Casanova Toledo, still recovering from the shock and with blood streaming down from his mouth and soaking his shirt, was ordered back to work to finish the last hours of his 16-hour shift.

The men were essentially slaves, they said, and they risked their lives to escape the facility, then made it to Venezuela and then were allowed to enter the U.S. on special visas. In 2006, they filed a federal lawsuit in Florida, accusing the drydock company of an unholy deal that made them indentured servants with no rights.

In 2008, the three men won a huge victory when the drydock company (whose largest shareholder was the Netherlands Antilles government) fired its Florida attorneys and essentially didn’t show up for trial. A judge in Miami awarded the men $80 million in damages in what was hailed as a historic ruling under the Alien Tort Act, which allows plaintiffs to sue in American courts for violations that happen in other countries.

Winning a huge award and collecting on it, however, are two different things.

And that’s where Scientology comes in.

One of our tipsters noticed that Scientology’s entities that operate the church’s private cruise ship, the Freewinds, have been sucked into the case, and have been hit with “writs of garnishment.” Writs have been issued against Scientology’s ‘Flag Service Organization’ (FSO runs the Clearwater, Florida ‘spiritual mecca’ of Scientology) and the ‘Flag Ship Service Organization’ (FSSO operates the Freewinds).

Recently, we talked with Seth Miles, one of the Florida attorneys representing the three Cuban plaintiffs, who helped us understand why Scientology has become involved in the lawsuit.

“The only reason the church is involved, when you have a judgment that’s outstanding, one of mechanisms you can use is you can file a writ of garnishment on people who you think owe the defendant money,” he told us.

So, because Scientology has had the Freewinds get repairs done at the Curaçao drydock, the Cuban plaintiffs have had the court file writs against the church entities, demanding that they pay whatever they owe the drydock company to the Cuban workers instead.

“Instead of paying them, pay us,” Miles explained.

In October, Scientology answered the writs by saying that it didn’t owe the drydock company any money, and asked for attorney’s fees to be awarded for the bother.

But we noticed this week that the writs against Scientology were renewed on April 1, leading us to conclude that the plaintiffs don’t believe Scientology and are still pressing to get what they figure the church owes.

Again, however, we want to make clear that the money we’re talking about are alleged debts that Scientology would be paying the drydock anyway, for repairs already performed on the Freewinds.

There’s no suggestion that Scientology was involved in the unseemly parts of the lawsuit — the treatment of the Cuban workers before they escaped in 2005. However, it’s not really doing the church any favors to be associated with this legal quagmire.

Why? Because it can’t help but bring up Scientology’s own treatment of employees, many of them working 112-hour weeks and for pennies an hour.

In 2009 and 2010, the FBI investigated Scientology over allegations of human trafficking of its “Sea Org” workers, who sign billion-year contracts and work under grueling conditions. Does it really look good for Scientology, with its own history of labor horror stories, to get into a prolonged fight over paying money it owes in order to make whole a few Cuban workers who were treated like slaves?

Hey, Scientology. You might just want to pay this bill and walk away before anyone besides us notices what’s going on.

Just sayin’.

 
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Video Vault: The Org Board and Livingness!

Our video source came through for us again, and this time we have a treat. It’s 1965, and L. Ron Hubbard is telling us that he has the magic ingredient for any organization to obtain maximum efficiency, whether it has three people or 200,000. The secret? An “org board.” But what really makes this special is not the org board itself (it’s just a jobs chart, for crissakes) but where Hubbard says he got it — from an ancient galactic civilization that existed trillions of years ago. Woo hoo! We wish these “quote videos” had more of that kind of space opera in them.

Anyway, Bridge Publications sells the Org Board & Livingness lecture for the amazingly low price of $15, and here’s the website’s description:

“Transcending anything Man has previously understood on organization, the Org Board embraces the whole of life, delineating purpose, the alignment of purpose for each of its members, a built-in system of self correction to prevent counter-purposes—and all of it paralleling The Bridge with each successive department representing an awareness level directly corresponding to those an individual ascends on the Grade Chart. Here, then, is L. Ron Hubbard’s legendary lecture revealing the pattern by which to organize life itself.”

Life itself! OK, without further ado:

 

 
Once again we asked Marc Headley to give the video a look and tell us what he knows about its production.

This one is great. It has tons of blown Int Base staff in it. We start off with Philip Mitchell (blown), Martina Une, and Hans Smith. Then we pick up with Ron Sommerville & Jim Moonie (blown). At 1:54 we see Stephanie Headley (my sister who has since been offloaded to a place in Canada) at reception greeting Marissa Profitlich (blown). In the background you will see David Flood, Stewart Williams and Glen Briggs (blown) as well as Martina Une again. Up next is Lane Porter, Sandra Lewis, Becky Horne, Luanda Gouessan, Camilla Andersen (blown) and Ronnie Rathburn (Marty’s brother) [This is not correct. He is not related to Marty -- Tony.]. In the Bookstore we have Nancy Vaughn (Black in PAC) & Tori Schell (blown) before we get into a VFX graphic that might have worked better for a song by The Who. Back at 3:06 we catch up with Hans-Heinrich Pederson & Pauline Flood. Joy Moritz, Caroline Sproule walk across the lobby before we our token black guy, Tony Pinder, with Urd Priester. Urd Priester is the one who oversaw the new staff uniform designs. Any time you see the designs with the women who have insane long legs, that is Urd’s work. Sitting in for the Word Clearer is Lori Cancilla. Doing E-meter drills we have Carol Stein & Ray Reiser. Then we see Lucky Story supervising John Wiley. We have Donna Stilo (RPF’d) walking across the lobby (her Mom, Anna famously visited Mosey in a video down in Texas) with Sharder Starkey (RPF’d) when Jim Lucas pops out from a walkway in the background.

Next up is Jessica Wieneke (Gilchrist) (who was famously “persecuted” in Germany by being bullied in school for being a child Scilon) auditing Alison Clarke. Then we have John Willoughby (blown) CS’ing while William Delderfield picks up folders. Then we have Mike Brown (blown) completing his Solo Course while Deidre Brousseau (JB’s ex-wife) claps for him. Then we have four people reading out of one book (not awkward at all) James Porter (who got busted as LRH PR for looking at entheta photo of Dave Miscavige on the Internet), Mike Gilchrist, Steve Hodkin & Joanne Winer.

At 4:11 we have a huge course room shot that is packed with Becky Horne, Kim Leach Fries, Uli Ginter, Mike Gilchrist, Agnes & Zsuzsa Mathe (both blown), Bill Brugger, and tons of other blown staff with their backs to camera.

Adam Reuveni wears one of those dorky yellow Scientology Vulture Minister jackets closes out the video. The thing I love about this video is that it is all about Hubbard’s “revolutionary” galactic game-changing technology called the Org Board. Every single Sea Org installation, organization in Scientology (Ideal or otherwise), Narconons, Scientology schools, TWTH, front groups, even companies owned and run by Scientologists are all required to have and use an Org Board. There was only one place in the world of Scientology that did not use or have this technology in place — the Scientology Int Base. If this Org Board technology was Superman, David Miscavige was its kryptonite. That dude would not have an org board in place no matter what. Some say that was the final blow that Shelly Miscavige was locked up for. She put people on posts according to an Org Board.

Anyway, if there is one thing that David Miscavige truly despises it is any sort of organization. His pint size (micro) management style would never work if there were one of these Org Boards in place.

Last I heard from someone who was there a few months ago was that there is still no real Org Board and they have even fewer people than ever trying to do nothing all day.

Thanks again for those great insights, Marc.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 12, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Eivol Ekdal

    …Tock

  • vistaril_LOL

    the suits just keep mounting and mounting…tick tock tick tock……..

  • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

    you mean niblet is ‘off source’ by not having an org board for years and years?! oh say it isn’t so!!

    i find it sickening and appalling to know there’s another organization that will treat people just as despicably as $cientology does…..i thought for sure reading that there’d have been a $cieno connection…..i wonder if that company learned from $cientology how to ‘treat’ people?

    • Peter

      I don’t think the Cuban government needs lessons from anyone in respect of mistreating its citizens. :/

      • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

        well that is true….very sad… :(

      • kemist

        While cubans are not the people who enjoy the most freedom, Cuba is certainly not the worst offender out there. It’s nothing like North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

        Cubans are highly educated and those with an artistic bent are encouraged in their craft. Most of their everyday problems come from the embargo the US still enforces on them. For instance, it is hard to find wood on the island so cubans have had to improvise with weird contraptions to make poles for electricity. Milk is also hard to come by and what little is produced locally is reserved for children under 7. Sure, not all of them own a computer and a car, but none of them are downright malnourished.

        If you’re not a US citizen you can visit Cuba anytime and go to any city you want and see for yourself. The only zone forbidden to tourists is Guantanamo, which is probably where the vast majority of human rights violations occur in that region.

        • Straight Diet of Kerbango

          It’s not that hard to go if you are a US citizen.

          When my sister-in-law goes to visit family in Cuba she brings about 50 lbs of aspirin. It’s strange that this is the thing they are most desperate for.

          • kemist

            The embargo has strange consequences on what you cannot get over there. For instance, they have a hard time getting ketchup and soft drink too. It’s easier to find beer than to find a coke.

            If american citizens can go unrestricted, it’s pretty strange that we never see americans in the tourist resorts over there.

            It’s way cheaper for us canadians to go there on an everything included deal (which includes everything you can drink, as long as it’s rum) than to stay in the cheapest motel you can find in Florida.

            We like to know what they’d like so that we can bring it as a gift for the hotel employees when we go. We got a demand for maple syrup last time. We’ll bring some aspirin too.

            • Robert Eckert

              American citizens can’t go there unrestricted, but the hoops you have to jump through aren’t as onerous as in Cold War days. Still, it does keep most Americans away unless they have family ties.

    • Tone

      Niblet… LOL :D
      Miss Tia you are a minx!

      • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

        ;-)

        • NOLAGirl

          Hey sweetie!! Saw Dr. John perform last night….thought of you. :)

          • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

            oooooo awesome! I was in the right place…. :)

            i still have moondog post in draft form due to my arm! :( was doing better but i’ve had a relapse….bad week all around….i’m thinking positive though, as i oft try, and figure since my bday is next week, it’s just my year winding down and i’m getting bad shit out of the way….that’s my positive spin on it! :D

            • NOLAGirl

              Good way to look at it. ; ) Keep the positive around you.

              Which day is your birthday?? Cause you know I’m gonna blast bday wishes all over the place. :) (((HUGS)))

            • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

              16th :)

              i TRY to keep a positive outlook, difficult at times….it’s like i go forward one step then get pushed back 3 or 20 at times….like i was trying to get x-stitch stuff stockpiled to open an etsy store cuz i have a lot of expenses, well then my elbow starts it’s cubital tunnel trick (not due to x-stitch either, i can’t put weight on it and i had my elbow bent in the window sill for like 20 minutes one day 3 weeks ago and though it hadn’t bothered me ALL WINTER, BAM!!! back it came….left hand was even numb for a few days…..)….then eddie needs a new place to live cuz his landlord is a dick who just wants college students to rent cuz he thinks he’ll make more money….eddie hasn’t felt ‘at home’ since his last place burned down a couple years ago…..he needs a place he can basically move into and stay the rest of his life—which he thought he could here til the owner sold it to this asshat….ARGH!! i talked to a neighbor who has a vacant house that abuts my side yard but noooo he doesn’t want to rent it out because he likes coming over and WATCHING ME too much! o_O that’s not creepy…..not fucking creepy at all…..::shudder::….never mind having regular income, nope, just watch ME…i asked what i did that was so interesting as they can only see me in the yard and once i get the yard cleaned up i spend most of the summer in a chair in front of my house in the street reading and he said i just like to watch you…..yeah, totally creeped me the fuck out….i think i’m gonna paint ‘fuck you’ facing his house….i’m only have joking…..or maybe ‘watch this’ with a middle finger…. :)

              ((hugs)) —sorry had to vent a little!!!! :D

            • NOLAGirl

              Girl…that is creepy!! I don’t know if you’ve filed a police report, but you should. At the very least, make the cops aware. That sounds like the beginning of an episode of Forensic Files. I’m serious, and you’re not stupid, don’t take that shit lightly, please. I’d be very upset if something happened to you!

              You (and Eddie) will find your way, you always do. ; ) You also know that here to help in any way that I can, so….if you need something, call/text/email me. Maybe someday “activist” will pay, for now…know you’re appreciated by many.

            • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

              don’t know what forensic files is….i’ll deal with the creepy mofo…..why anyone would want to watch me in the first place is just bizarre…..but i DO call this the land of misfit toys so i guess this is just par for the course!!!

              you know i really don’t ever ask for help….that’s not me and i have always appreciated your help so much!!! ♥ we gotta talk on the phone sometime soon!!! :)

              now TODAY i am gonna try to go work in my yard —like i tried a couple times this week….suppose to be almost 70 today, then 76 tomorrow!!! but get this, tuesday, it’s gonna SNOW!!!!!!!!! SMDH……

            • D.Y.G.

              Miss Tia, I am sorry you are having so many troubles. I’m hoping that this too shall pass. The creepy neighbor is worrisome. I also had creepy neighbors several years ago who were friends with my ex husband’s – they made a point of finding out the name of a man I was dating and kept track of all my movements. It was disturbing enough that I sold my house and moved away!

              I thought I’d share today that son #2 is transferring to University of Akron this fall. I went to visit with him a few weeks ago, sign paperwork, etc. Nice campus!

            • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

              oh i wish i had known you were in akron, i could have came downtown, i’m like 5 minutes away!!! i think i’ve been on their campus once? unless downtown counts, since they’ve bought some downtown buildings….

              creepy neighbor will learn his lesson! :D

              let me know when you’re in akron again!!!

            • D.Y.G.

              We’ll probably come back in a month or so to inspect housing and determine which hall he wants to stay in. I’ll definitely let you know. I’d be thrilled to meet up! This was a spur of the moment thing – when they had Seniors Day at the campus the kid decided we should go too, so we hopped in the car and went. Son is currently enrolled at OSU, but the chemistry department is under review *again* for having a very high failure rate (a sign of bad teaching), so the kid is transferring elsewhere for a year with the hope they get it straightened out by then.

            • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

              awesome!!! just email me tia@misstia(dot)com and i can give ya my phone #!! that’d be great to meet up!! :)

              i do know akron u has a pretty solid science department…..

            • D.Y.G.

              I will do that! And yes, Akron’s college of science & arts is a big deal. It was ranked top 5 among public universities.

            • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

              great!! look forward to it!! :)

    • Baby

      Yep that’s what I got too Tia..

      • http://www.misstia.com/ Miss Tia

        i hope they got a lot of emails!!! :D

  • DodoTheLaser

    Free Cubans and their cigars! I will not watch another lrh vid.

  • midatlanticcoast

    I have never seen any positive publicity about scientology except for their own (false) propaganda for the kook-aid (that was a typo but it seems appropriate) drinkers. The picture I’ve gotten is one of mentally unstable (thanks to the tech) celebrities and followers and endless illegal and immoral actions. Now they are even being dragged into second hand grossness. I honestly don’t understand how they keep sucking people into their web of ickiness. I sincerely hope that most people who aren’t involved in it are reading the same articles that I am reading. As for the video, I watched up to 1:01 and had to turn it off.

    • Narapoid

      I don’t believe they are getting all that many new people. Mainly born-ins who don’t know the difference.

      For the celebs who stay, they have the dirt on them.

  • Missionary Kid

    TICK TOCK
    DRY DOCK

  • Phil McKraken

    “You’ll be seeing a lot of this org board and, uh, I’m merely pointing out to you about this that there’s something about it to understand.”

    That is what is meant by talking in circles. Why would he say that? It doesn’t make any sense at all. It doesn’t serve any purpose. It’s self-contradictory. It’s ill-formed. Every word is a non sequitur. It’s cacophonous. How could anyone listen to hours of these rambling lectures without vomiting? I really want to know.

  • Tone

    That first 80 trillion years really sucked without them org boards, but it’s gonna be so much better now. Blubbard was really on a psychotic roll with this shit.

    As for the SS Mesothelioma, I love that those Cubans are fucking with it.

    • Narapoid

      I hope it is seized and balled up in this cuban worker case. Nevermind that it really isn’t Scientology directly in this case; but the headline: “Scientology Cruise Liner seized in human trafficking case” might not be the kind of PR they have been looking for.

  • Narapoid

    The Org board is very simple and strait forward thing. Captain Miscavige must have a misunderstood word as to how it is done. Because of that “MU”, he has imprisoned his wife, and 40 other executives for almost a decade. All you have to do is assign the tasking per the board and then trust that it will be carried out.

    It may be the trust part, that he is having issues with…

    As for the poor Cuban’s, Tony is right, just pay them off and avoid bad PR. Of course they would try a slimy move like claiming they owe nothing to the drydock company just to steal the money from those poor souls.

    $cientology really has no truck with the indentured servitude, after all, they are HUMAN TRAFFICKING SLAVEMONGERS in their own right.

    • Techie

      Not an “MU”, N, the Org board if actually in use would require him to give up several scintillas of his Absolute Power over his minions. That is also why there is a Hole and why ED INT and all the supposed “Command Structure” is in it, subject to his every whim. In actual fact he is supposed to be “putting in place” the command structure that was supposed to replace LRH. The insanity at Gold is his way of doing that. He just wants to be able to walk into any office in all of Scientology and give orders that are obeyed without question, no matter how detached from reality they may be. You are very forgiving to call this a “misunderstood word”.

  • Edward Whalley

    Oh, of course that galactic civilization failed! It didn’t have Ron running it! Ron can run anything! Ron knows everything about history, the solar system, and window cleaning! Ron can heal your baby! (Hint: Boobles are for decoration, not lunch!) Ron will help your child at school! Ron! Ron! Ron!

    Oh, so that’s what Clear is all about! that’s why Clears are no different from all of us! They’re just baby OT’s! D’oh! I should look over how this board applies to my life! And do it now!

  • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

    As far as the chances of anyone besides us noticing what’s going on: unfortunately it’s not easy going. I’ve been reporting Tony’s articles on Ramana and Valeska to a host of Dutch government organizations for
    almost two years now. It’s a complex matter and progress is slow.

    For example, the Dutch government has signed a treaty called the Carribean Memorandum of Understanding on Port State Control in which they promise to protect the wellbeing of seafarers on foreign ships entering Bonaire (Bonaire is a harbor which falls under the Dutch government, which is not the case for Willemstad). However, it has failed to write the corresponding law, so the responsible Ministry of Infrastructure and Environment does not have the jurisdiction to even start an investigation. They also failed to properly inform Dutch Congress about this little hiatus. It took an enormous amount of effort (dozens of letters, threats to file complaints with the National Ombudsman) to figure this out myself and get them to admit to it, but unfortunately that’s the situation.

    I will continue my lobbying activities, but regrettably I am not very optimistic about the chance that the Dutch government will ever look into the situation on the Freewinds.

    Also, on a side note to OSA, can I suggest that if you choose to write me any more e-mails violating privacy laws by naming government officials in them like you did a few weeks ago, you do not use a computer called ‘OSA Amsterdam’? I really don’t think you want the Dutch privacy watchdog to be reading the OSA Network Orders too often when a privacy violation is reported to them. They are by a long stretch the weakest watchdog we have, but you don’t want them to push too much, wouldn’t you agree?

    • EnthralledObserver

      E-mail? Share? (Redacted of Govt Official names, of course)

      • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

        The e-mail is aimed at the tax office, which has gone to the Supreme Court over the decision to give the cult tax exemption in Holland. It’s clear from the e-mail that OSA has initiated an investigation into the tax office per the OSA Network Orders. It seems to be a fishing expedition for statements from my side, which they think they can use against the tax office. I am not sure what they are after, but to be on safe side, I haven’t responded to the e-mail nor will I publish it here.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Ok… respectfully understood. Thanks for sharing what you have. :)

        • Disaffected

          The tax exempt status in Holland (ANBI) is a total joke. One of the main pillars the court based their decision on is that people who can not afford to pay full rates for scamatology services, could receive them for reduced rates of even for free — so therefore the court didn’t designate these “services” as a commercial business. Well, this reduced/free shit never happens!! I have send a copy of HCOPL: “free services, free fall” to the tax authorities with some other information. The tax authorities are NOT happy with the courts decision, we will see how this plays out. I’m sure you are more informed about the current state on this topic. Thanks for sharing the information you did.

    • Andrew Robertson

      In the photo of the ‘Freewinds’ at the top of the article, the port side of the hull looks alarmingly dimpled.

      As it just docked in Bonaire a few hours ago it would be a good time for a marine surveyor to do a safety inspection on behalf of the Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure and Environment. After all no one would want the lives of the crew and passengers put at risk.

      Andrew

      • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

        The Memorandum of Understanding I mentioned covers three areas: environment, safety and rights of seafarers. The first two elements are properly covered by legislation and the Ministry of Infrastructure and Environment has inspected the Freewinds for these areas a number of times. Public records show that no significant findings were found during these inspections.

        Rest assured that if I find anything of sufficient substance to challenge the quality of these inspections, I will, but so far I haven’t found anything which is really actionable within the legal framework that the Inspection has to work with (and that includes the asbestos situation and the dumping of waste water).

        In fact, I have been to the Antilles and given the kind of rustbuckets that enter those harbours, I doubt that the Freewinds is of very high concern for the Inspection from a health and safety point of view.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Sociopathic businesses network with sociopathic businesses. Criminals deal with criminals. One of OSA’s duties is to survey and area to find out if it is “safe” for scientology to operate without any problems.

          As an example, look at what organization it uses for many of it’s major construction projects in the U.S.: NOVA. They’ve had no problems working “with” RPF slaves despite every legal and union and OSHA rule. Look at the politicians who show up at the events (although they seem to be getting fewer). Birds of a feather and all that. The Freewinds is a disaster waiting to happen.

          • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

            You are absolutely right in the sense that the Freewinds has significant political influence in the Antilles. As such, the Antilles government will never take a hard look at the true nature of the Freewinds, which is why I only bother to contact government organizations in Holland itself.

            And although I am pretty sure that the cozy relationships of the Freewinds extend to the port inspectors and authorities on Bonaire, I have no reason to believe that basic procedures such as measuring the hull thickness have not been performed on the Freewinds.

            • Disaffected

              Large parts, cross cut all governmental layers of the islands, is corrupt. Highly susceptible to bribery. And since the “stench winds” is owned by the Church of Bribery its not hard to do the maths.

      • DMSTCC

        The ‘Freewinds’ looks like a starved pony with cancer

      • Betsy

        I noticed that too! (Not being a marine sort, I don’t know what it could mean.) But it almost looks as though the “frame” of the ship is simply covered by some sort of cloth! Why would this be?

        Addition: Never mind, John P. explains it down further.

    • Disaffected

      ” I really don’t think you want the Dutch privacy watchdog to be reading the OSA Network Orders too often when a privacy violation is reported to them. They are by a long stretch the weakest watchdog we have, but you don’t want them to push too much, wouldn’t you agree?”
      *laughter*
      I agree, the privacy watchdog is weak. But, as remarked by yourself, OSA Amsterdam isn’t too bright either. Whenever some major shit needs to be handled OSA Amsterdam is by passed left right and center by OSA INT under instruction of RTC as we have seen in the past. The good news is that scamatology is gasping for some last breaths in Holland. The new building, which is supposed to become “Ideal” will not be happening any time soon (to raise the funds for refit will take another 10 years or so). And the building they are in currently, they need to vacate this year, if I remember correctly. The Landlord was not happy with the “church” as they were/are way behind paying the rent.

      • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

        Hey Disaffected, good to see you posting here. I took the liberty to scan through your other posts – very sorry about your daughter and good to see you met up with Karin Spaink. And yes, there is no way in which the cult will move into their new building this year. This means that we could be in for some fun in the unlikely case the landlord actually finds a new tenant for their building.

        • Disaffected

          Thank you! And thanks for keeping the website going. I know form insiders that the org keeps backlogging on the rent bill as they are way below the solvency line. The funds in NABESA are systematically used to pay such bills. Libera (the landlord) will not put up with non payment of the rent as they have sued the cult whenever the rent backlogged too much. The numbers of active members are grossly exaggerated by the cult and they have only a few “whales” who are deep in it. If they keep ripping off NABESA funds to pay backlogged rent, the new building will just never happen by macslappy’s standards. And you are right: if Libera will find a new tenant, things will become REAL interesting…

          • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

            Thank you as well for reaching out to those still in!

    • J. Swift

      scamofscientology: Can you please post headers?

      • http://scamofscientology.nl/ scamofscientology

        Check your PM at ESMB.

    • TDA1541A

      It was a Godsend that Bonaire became a special municipality of the Netherlands in 2010 because Curacoa drained it for cash and a lot of waste was dumped in an nature Reserve due to Corruption:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edLjsQF5kwY

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    Maybe the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology doesn’t actually owe any money to the dry dock company… However, the fact that such treatment of workers took place begs the question of what the customers of the dry dock company got away with… Such as handling Blue Asbestos in unsafe ways, perhaps?

  • NOLAGirl

    *crawls my hungover ass from under the table onto the Bunker sofa*

    Did anyone get arrested?…..Or make breakfast? :)

    • EnthralledObserver

      …offers Coffee…

      • NOLAGirl

        I’m so in love with you right now. :)

  • EnthralledObserver

    Greedy, idiot Freewindy$cion… pay the victims the money before EVERYBODY jumps on the bad PR bandwagon!
    Only $15 for that piece of LRonny wisdom… no wonder Davey Makemerich isn’t employing it… it’s too cheap!

  • Jack99

    Well, it’s not like the church has millions of dollars salted away that they can take from just to avoid some potential, bad publicity…

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    I’m never going to tire of this.

  • iCandy

    Naturally, Cof$ would do business with a dry-dock company that uses slave labor!

    • EnthralledObserver

      If the shoe fits…

      • NOLAGirl

        (refresh)

        • EnthralledObserver

          lol… perfect

      • Mooser

        “If the shoe fits…”

        …put the six-inch heel through your boyfriend’s skull?

  • John P.

    Freewinds: I have no idea whether the cult actually owes money in the case or not. “Admiralty Law” (relating to international disuptes over ships and shipping) is incredibly complex and arcane. But one of the things I have seen is that some very counter-intuitive results can be obtained. For example, a hedge fund owner was able to convince Ghana to seize an Argentine naval “tall ship” in its port as collateral to get repaid on a $1.6 billion bond position. The story is here: http://nypost.com/2012/10/05/hedge-funder-seizes-argentine-tall-ship-over-1-6b-debt/

    So it is entirely possible, whether the cult is justly being dragged into the shipyard workers’ fight, that the Freewinds could end up being seized or having a lien placed against it, even if it’s not really the cult’s fight. This reinforces my belief that the ship is at this point nothing but a money-losing albatross that is over time going to become an increasing drag on the cult’s operations.

    Another reason that the Freewinds is becoming such an albatross can be seen in the photo. Note that the plating on the bow is extremely dimpled inwards. That is a phenomenon called “panting stress.” Wave action pounds the plating in on the stringers, and air pressure inside the hull pops it back out. Over time, it’s just like squeezing a beer can and working out the dents with your fingers — the metal weakens. The Freewinds is nearly 50 years old, and the accumulated panting stress has crystallized the metal. Rust has also thinned it. That’s why it never goes very far from land and is incapable of making extended ocean voyages. Just imagine the disaster if the plating lets go in a storm!

    The Org Board: To a never-in, this is perhaps the most bizarre part of the lame “Admin Tech” used to operate the cult’s business. Culties have a mystical belief that the particular structure shown on the “org board” represents some sort of incredible brilliance in how not only Scientology, but any business, should be run.

    But one thing we know from investing in companies at Global Capitalism HQ is that companies who are too obsessed about their organizational structure, and who think that their organization is ideally structured for all time are usually bureaucratic nightmares who will significantly underperform their competitors who are more flexible in how the lines of authority in an organization are drawn. Every executive in a large company knows how unwieldy everything is.

    In fact, it’s entirely possible to say that the “org board” is one of Hubbard’s most damaging inventions that holds Scientology back, because it freezes change in an organization, where change is the norm in any real-world organization. Here’s hoping that the cult never figures that out!

    • Graham

      “the ship is at this point nothing but a money-losing albatross”; on first reading I mis-read this as “the ship is at this point nothing but money-losing asbestos”.

    • Techie

      What you say about the Org Board is true, but the worst of it is that they are perverting it. The last time I walked by the Gold Org board all the fancy magnetic name tags (by policy they have to be done with Dymo tape, seen one of those recently??) were scrambled up by somebody and a bunch of them were shoved up to the top. It took a double take and a moment of reflection to realize what was going on. I know Lil’ Davey couldn’t have pushed them up that far, he must have gotten Lou to do it. The idea being that he was having to wear all these hats, due to irresponsibility of those below him on the Org Board. When LRH was on the lam in the 80s he set up a whole corporate structure to replace himself, with checks and balances, designated authority, complex corporate entity structures and all. One could argue that these were really just a bunch of cut-outs leaving him really in charge but not liable for any illegality. details here. But what I remember reading about this was that RTC was supposed to put the lower structures there, that is appoint people to positions like ED INT and CO CMO INT, get them going and let them take over and run the show. As Chairman of the Board RTC (there is really no one else on the “Board”) Dave is supposed to do this. Unfortunately Dave has a little ego issue, and as soon as he puts someone “in charge” he immediately finds fault with them, decides they must be an SP and either micromanages them into a puppet regime or declares them SP and puts them in the SP Hole, where currently all this “Management Structure” resides. They may no longer be stuck 24/7 in a double wide trailer, but they have about as much corporate authority as the janitor in one of your fabled capitalistic high rises. Ask anyone who has been CO GOLD – the position is untenable even for the brownest of brown noses. They all ended up broken on the trash heap of humanity. I am sure there are similar stories of corporate structures gone bad in any big company, but usually the company suffers and loses money as a result, with a corporate shakeout and fall from grace of the really bad apples, or a collapse of the company. Dave has figured out how to keep it all going by extorting straight donations, kind of like the old Catholic indulgences. There is very little real product being sold, and what is sold is flim flam for fantastically inflated prices. Looks like the perfect scam, but some day it has to collapse. If not by the justice department, possibly by an angry horde of defrauded customers. Somehow at long last Adam Smith’s “Invisible Hand” must someday smash this fraud to the ground.

      • John P.

        but the worst of it is that they are perverting [the org board].

        That’s great news. Take “tech” that doesn’t work if you do it right and then screw that up. Not exactly a recipe for success, and certainly a reason for lots more joking and degrading about Miscavige’s management incompetence.

        Somehow at long last Adam Smith’s “Invisible Hand” must someday smash this fraud to the ground.

        Exactly right. This is why trying to develop usable statistics on membership and financial performance is so important — so we can track the decline and try and figure out when the train leaves the tracks.

        • mirele

          The train has left the tracks, it’s just that Davey is building track underneath the train using constantly-extorted donations.

        • ze moo

          When the ‘chirch’ takes out very large insurance policies on the Freewinds and then crews it with Florida RFPers and sets sail for Africa, you’ll know that the ship of fools is doomed.

          Albatross was supposed to be good luck for a ship.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PJix23IeF8

          • Missionary Kid

            I didn’t see your post, and also speculated on an insurance scam.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Admin policy in orgs is a joke. The real life organizational “tech” and org board actually used is a Hey You one where the boss employs abuse as the main tool of control. Screaming, sleep deprivation, denigration, degradation, yelling.

          As to the stats, JohnP, I’m now only looking for # of IAS patrons. In 2009-2010 Miscavige mandated all of his franchises And even his customers to work for him as his IAS salesmen. Scientology, selling eternity, became the shell company. IAS, which offers promises of protecting that eternity, is the only business in operation other than the Real Estate scam.

          What happens when the few customers for scientology walk into an org today? What’s the first thing even on their routing forms? He has to invest in IAS stock. Even if he had $ left for services, higher level auditors have all been ordered OFF their training. All members have been ordered to hand in All their course and auditing materials, books, courses, and meters to be destroyed. Public who need a “twin” have problems finding one. And the only sales activity is the IAS events or fundraisers to buy Miscavige real estate which they then have to pay him rent on. The insufferable and arrogant wealthier customers who were first in line for Super Power have returned as super insufferable and arrogant, a walking advertisement that the last carrot hold is a fake. Even the field salesmen (FSM’s) who are also OTC members are being crushed. They now even have to shell out from their personal wallets any refund requests. Only the IAS salesmen and Real Estate Fundraiser’s R’Us salesmen make the sweeeet commissions. Narconon did, but I don’t see a grand future there either.

          It’s not that the train has left the tracks, it’s that there is no train. All that’s left is the Bank of Miscavige. Now that even open season for declares has begun, even the whales can’t buy protection from the ethics machine anymore. The only thing still humming on the conveyor belt is their trophies and coupons for eternal youth.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Here’s a stat I just found this week that floored me, JohnP: ASHO Foundation org has been responsible for running the Auditors’ Association. It was assigned to Fdn because most field auditors were busy during the weekdays in day time.

            When Miscavige first began his assault on scientology’s main business line in 1996, also known as GAT1, the Assn’s auditors # was 1730 and soon plummeted to 30! Oh, and any field auditors or barely open missions also have to turn in All their equipment and materials for disposal, and they are all required to buy everything starting new and also to start all over on their “bridge to nowhere” from the beginning. Lights out for all. And the orgs are in financial trouble, every single one of them have to pay the IAS before even the electric bill, and now they have no materials to service anyone.

          • Mooser

            Well said, THDNE.

        • Jgg2012

          How do you square it with Miscavige’s admission 3 years ago that the tech was unintelligible?

    • Once_Born

      I wonder where the CofS will go to present OT8 et. al. when the Freewinds reaches the end of its service life.

      Actual Scientology now seems to a minority activity for the ‘Church’, having been displaced by a real-estate scam, an aggressive call-centre business and the selling of ‘Indulgences’ (aka ‘Status’). The Freewinds seems to be the last CofS facility that makes money out of the practice of Scientology.

      Of course, presenting OT8 levels on the high seas enables the CofS to isolate and control a population who have proven themselves highly committed and prosperous – an ideal situation for obtaining additional ‘donations’. However, the Ship now seems to be sailing less often, less far and with fewer passengers. The cruise business must already be less profitable than diverting the presentation of OT8 to an exclusive, highly secure facility in Clearwater – which they already posses, in the form of the underutilised ‘Super Power; building.

      Perhaps they have not scrapped the ship before now because of its symbolic value as a link with their imagined ‘glory days’ when ‘Source’ was among us, sailing the high seas. It would represent a loss of prestige for the boys and girls in sailor suits to have to scrap the only substantial vessel that they have. However, an ageing ship must cost a lot to maintain (even with the extensive use of slave labour). Legal liabilities might be last straw. I expect the company that operates the Freewinds is nominally independent and could be wound up (or drained of money and then bankrupted) as per SOP.

      Miscavige seems incapable of planning ahead, so I’m betting that, when the ship completely breaks down, this will be blamed on sabotage by SP’s and a new campaign launched to buy an ‘Ideal Cruise Ship’. In the meantime, Scientology will continue its withdraw to Clearwater.

      • Techie

        True Once_Born, they were already talking about a “new ship” back in the 90s but never had the $$. Seems like LRH never wanted to admit that something was just worn out, something about this in the Flag Orders somewhere. But we would keep old audio equipment going that was made in the 50s! The Leslie for the Hammond B6 in the Golden Era Productions Music Studio is at least that old. The fancy Neve mix board in the Mad Hatter studio was made in the 60s.That was a big part of my job at Gold, Keeping Old s*** Working. They love tubes too. Don’t know why that is, but they will probably stick with the Freewinds ’til it falls apart.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Picking myself up off the floor. They still use that old Neve? And that Leslie could be worth some serious coin by now! Oh, if it still works. Some years ago I paid to get my original reels. They’re supposed to rotate them and preserve and should have been good for several more years. I got a few I managed to transfer on other medium, but I basically got a can of crumbs. I agree about the Freewinds. Of course, when It falls apart, lives will be put in harms’ way. Only meat bodies, of course.

          • Mooser

            “And that Leslie could be worth some serious coin by now!”

            No! Certain models (the “early Tall Boy”) have some cachet. And a Leslie which has been used by certain players, or been in a certain studio, might be very valuable.

            A new, wooden, 40 watt tube amp, exact reproduction of the 122 sells for $3600 from Hammond-Suzuki-Leslie, or you can buy the high-powered model. The “gigging” Leslie, the Model 3300 is all fixed up with wheels, handles and tolex case, and is actually cheaper, at $2500 (I’ll be ordering one of those soon)
            Older Leslies go for anything from free to at most, $1000 and for a grand, it better be one hell of a beautiful Leslie.

            And replacement parts for Leslies, are quite reasonable and available from good old Hammond-Suzuki-Leslie

            Also new B3s and many other products.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              My how things change so fast. Had friends that were looking for them about 7 years ago I think it was, and they were telling me the prices. They must have become popular again? I can’t even imagine, although I know audiphiles that for years moaned about the frosty bites of non tube anything. Those new prices would be considered high by some I know. Of course, the real cost is the expense of hiring road crew to schlepp those heavy bulky monsters!

            • Mooser

              The last B3s were made in 1968, and new stock was assembled from existing parts to about 1972-4,

          • Techie

            Of course we “modified” the old Neve, Frankensteined two together for more channels, put in Massenburg flying fader animation and Surround Sound panning pots. But it is still true to it’s 60s discrete transistor and transformer roots, still humming along…May God bring those straying Scientologists safely home from their adventures on the high seas and elsewhere.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              We need to talk. I’m a studio tech. Got a safe email you can post?

            • Techie

              My hushmail starts with auto61410853.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              message sent.

        • Once_Born

          I went right off tubes (we call them ‘valves’ in the UK) when my friend touched the chassis of a faulty PA amplifier and the resultant violent muscle contraction threw him ten feet.

          We extensively modified this equipment, the next day (suing a sledgehammer) then bought a transistor amp.

          I hope the passengers and crew of the Freewinds are as lucky.

          • Techie

            Hah! Once_Born, you should see the scar I still have in my little finger, shaped just like the lugs of the bias switch that was still at 350V even though the old Manley tube amp had been off for minutes. I picked it up from Dave’s pretty cherry wood floor and let it sizzle into my finger rather than drop it and make a scratch in the wood – I was that cowed by him. Makes me sick to think about. Well, off topic except as an example of why Scientologists do such crazy self destructive things as float around in a boat that should have been scrapped in the 80s.

            • Mooser

              That’s what happens when B+ voltage gets into the chassis. Even tho the amperage is low, B+ voltage has indeed killed people.

        • FOTF2012

          The Church has plenty of money to buy a new ship if it wanted to. But they want to suck every dime out of both people and MEST objects. What got portrayed as a Bridge to Total Freedom became a Vampire Cult of Greed.

          As to the Freewinds, they let that ship go for many years, knowing that people were being exposed to deadly blue asbestos. They did not act for two main reasons: (1) Ron didn’t say asbestos was dangerous, therefore …; and (2) to keep sucking money out of the ship.

          And for the love of vacuum tubes, here’s the deal. Scientology believes a nuclear holocaust may destroy life on Earth. (Heck, a lot of people worry about that.) The original date of the predicted nuclear war came and went — no doubt averted by Scientology. But it is still coming. That’s why Ron’s incredible, super-duper, better than the best-est, work is being put on titanium plates to be stored underground in blast-proof bunkers.

          And that’s where the vacuum tubes come in: they are much less vulnerable to the Electro-Magnetic Pulse (EMP) from a nuclear blast than are solid state electronics.

          So Earth will be blown up, the Scientology “Tech” will be preserved, and the only technology left around will be Scientologists using equipment that rests on vacuum tube engineering.

          Oh, and because Scientologists smoke a lot (largely Kools, like Ron) and have done the Purif (Purification Rundown) they will be pretty much radiation proof. They can walk with immunity in the radioactive rubble of the now “cleared” cities of Teegeeack. The Marcabian civilization redux.

          • Techie

            When the EMP or nuclear holocaust or solar flare hits it will take out the Internet but not Lil’ Davey’s $60,000 home stereo! And he won’t be harmed by the radiation! And he’ll still have his scotch and his girlfriends. Perfect. No more pesky e-meters or incriminating e-mails either. People will be so bored that the warehouses full of printed Basic Books might actually be sold to readers, not given to libraries to be thrown away or languish at the Half Price Books. ‘Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished!

        • Ten Aug

          That is a big part of every scilon’s job… Keeping old sh*t working.

      • pluvo

        They could easily deliver OT 8 at Flag. More important is that the IAS’s administration office – where the flow of money from the memberships gets through to the various accounts on various locations – is stationed on the Freewinds, AFAIK.

        “Of course, the Freewinds is also home to Miscavige’s personal bankers – the IAS.”- Karen de la Carriere.
        http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?20457-Hey-everyone-meet-Karen!/page93

        • Once_Born

          Good point – having a vessel in International waters may well make it move money about without being inconvenienced by wog law. Also, it’s easier to prevent official scrutiny if your office is at sea.

          Miscavige’s problem is that the Freewinds can no longer do the job. It is so old that it now has to hug the coast and is subject to the law of the nations it passes through (including the laws regarding extradition). I doubt it is any longer be capable of safely sailing international waters. It also spends a lot of time in port (and dry dock) making it easier to raid.

          There are betters ways of laundering money an d concealing /destroying records now than there were in Hubbard’s day. Admittedly, Miscavige does not have the imagination to take advantage of them, and will (as with anything else) continue to try do this in the old-fashioned way for as long as possible. However, the Freewinds is a venerable old bucket which much be costing a lot of money to keep afloat, and can’t last much longer without a major failure.

          Come to think of it, it would be nice if it suffered a complete engine failure while under way – and became subject to the law of salvage.

          • John P.

            It would be nice if the ship suffered a complete engine failure while under way – and became subject to the law of salvage.

            Marine diesels are some of the most reliable engines ever built. They’re massively over-engineered and are basically designed to keep going as long as fuel is flowing. More likely would be a failure of support equipment, particularly that involving plumbing. Desalination equipment is notoriously fickle. For example, the toilets backing up and causing shit to explode out of the heads in the crew quarters, working their way up to the higher decks of the ship. That is oddly appropriate given this particular ship and its mission.

            • Once_Born

              UK – I’ll settle for seawater in the fuel.

      • KingofSweden

        I think Davey will soon announce a multi-trillion dollar fundraising campaign for a new “Ideal Freewinds” to replace the old one.

    • mirele

      I’ve never seen a Scientology Org Board, but Mormon wards have something similar on the wall in the bishop’s office. It’s not nearly as “holy” as an Org Board, but keeping all the “callings” filled is one of the bishop’s most onerous tasks. This is restimulating engrams.

    • Sherbet

      For the sake of God, John P, don’t give DM any ideas about the the Freewinds’ lack of seaworthiness. Next up: Fundraising for a new boat.

      • RMycroft

        All the sister ships of the Boheme/Freewinds were scrapped years ago. You can only patch rust so long.

        • Sherbet

          “A boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money.”

          • NOLAGirl

            Truth.

        • Sherbet

          I wonder how much the ship is used, meaning, are the courses at capacity. I doubt it, but maybe somebody has figures.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Next Freewind Convention Package Deal: 90% Discount, this week only!

            http://i.imgur.com/YF6q9se.jpg

            • Sherbet

              Thank goodness my room is on the port side.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Um, those cabins go for 90% more.

            • Sherbet

              Oh, for the SCUBA equipment. Sounds reasonable.

          • Once_Born

            I don’t know if dated CofS figures for ‘course completions’ are still available. If they are, the completion dates can be matched to online records of the ships movements, so we can estimate how many people were on each cruise..

            Since OT8 is only presented on the Freewinds, the Ship’s maximum occupancy figure should equal the number of new OT8’s + a reasonable failure rate.

            So, if a CofS publication claims that 10 new OT8’s were created on a given date, and we estimate that half of those who take the ‘course’ fail, then there were probably 15 paying customers on board for the cruise that took place around that time.

            • Sherbet

              That doesn’t even pay the fuel bill.

            • RMycroft

              All CoS organizations try to eat each other. Freewinds offers other Advanced Org stuff, some Freewinds-only stuff is now at Flag too, etc. Overall, it doesn’t increase anything since it’s a zero-sum game, but Thursday is Coming, and it’s always Bowb Your Buddy Week in Scientology.

            • John P.

              it’s always Bowb Your Buddy Week in Scientology

              It’s also always Bowb your Buddy week at Global Capitalism HQ.

              We love us some “Bill, The Galactic Hero” (and any other books by Harry Harrison) here in the penthouse apartment, by the way!

    • Moonshot

      The irony about the Org Board in Scientology is that NOBODY in Scientology (outside of Class V Orgs and Sea Org Orgs) really follows the damn thing. The silly thing is just an unworkable morass.

    • RMycroft

      When Miscavige supposedly disbanded the Guardian Office and created the Office of Special Affairs, OSA dropped right into the vacant Dept 20 Org Board slot, and a Commodore’s Messengers Office unit sprang into action re-issuing all of Hubbard’s Guardian Office orders and policies as OSA Network Orders. Same old, same old.

    • Missionary Kid

      I wonder if the SS Mesothelioma is insured. A convenient sinking in a hurricane?

    • Missionary Kid

      I put “money losing albatross” on the list of nicknames for the boat at $CIENTOLOGY STRUCTURES http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1084223013

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Just looking at that picture of the failwinds, and reading your comment I could see that the deformation of the bow plates was much more severe than when I last saw the ship in Bonaire in 1998. A “time lapse” photo from different eras would be interesting.

      The ship was really not very nice. It was visibly old and outdated. Some aspects had been spruced up with the renovations but the passenger cabins that I saw had older corroded and marginally functional plumbing.

      The sea org has a habit of slapping paint and plaster on substandard infrastructure to make it appear new and shiny. But the old corrosion and rot lurks beneath.

      Re: Org Board. Hubbard’s great cognition was supposedly that the old galactic civilization he ripped off for his chart had no ‘correction’ function. So he invented the ‘qualifications’ division to perform that function.

      It is interesting that Dancing Misanthrope has decimated the qual division and instead just fires, RPFs or throws in the “hole” anyone he perceives as failing. Qual is supposed to fix people and train them in the areas they are weak and put them back on post. Danse Macabre just slaughters them.

      • Lady Squash

        If you understand Scientology is a money making scam, there really is no need for a Qual. Scientology wasn’t invented to work in the first place. It was invented to get money out of people while convincing them they are on a grand journey to Total Spiritual Freedom. And in that Scientology has been very successful. The product proves the point. The product being money for the Church at the expense of members many of whom are damaged or destroyed. Pure Evil Genius. You will know them by their fruits. I think that’s from the Bible.

        • Once_Born

          Agreed – the real purpose of ‘study tech’ is to provide constant ‘urgent’ busywork to distract attention from the fact that none of the claims made for Scientology actually deliver – ever. If you do notice, and point it out… then you learn the real purpose of ‘ethics tech’.

          • Lady Squash

            Dear Once_Born, I loved the “study tech” once upon a time. I’m a writer and love words and thought I was reasonably literate. Then on study in Scientology, I would get busted over and over for not being able to spit out a definition. It made me mad, at the same time, I thought that this was the beginning of true knowledge i.e., knowing how much I didn’t know. I was becoming more and more literate and took pride in that.
            It wasn’t until I left that I noticed that I was so focused on the trees, I was missing the big picture. I was so worried about clearing my words, I didn’t notice how what I was reading made no sense, was contradictory and promoted a world view that wasn’t rooted in love and compassion and true understanding. I didn’t notice that instead of studying truth, I was rattling around in the mind of a disturbed person. I had become a pinhead.
            Do you remember how you couldn’t use the NEW, FABULOUS tape machines until you had read the manual and then was checked out on it? And then you get out in the real world and realize if you can’t intuit how computer programs work (there’s rarely a manual) you’re screwed.
            Madness. I tell you, it’s madness. It’s always worse than you think–the Bunker by-word.

          • Lady Squash

            Well said. One is so busy as a student trying to make your targets; trying to finish in checksheet time; searching for any possible misunderstood word so you won’t flunk your checkout and keeping track of all your points (words you looked up, demos you made and etc), that you miss the big picture. And then on top of that, Hubbard in his lecture Evaluation of Data says how important it is for a student to evaluate the data. Classic double speak. Or as the Indian’s would say, “White man speaks with forked tongue.” or as someone else said “pay attention to what I do, not what I say”. By golly, Hubbard said that. He was all along telling us what a con man he was and while in, one thinks he is warning one of others. So twisted, it baffles the mind.

            • Once_Born

              Perhaps I should mention as this point that I am a ‘never-in’.

              My post was a statement of what I think is the functional purpose of ‘study tech’ from the organisation from the perspective of psychology and social science.

              I think it’s fascinating that someone like me (who is trying to understand Scientology from outside, using theoretical ideas) and someone like yourself, who has experienced it personally, have come to the same conclusions.

              This also confirms my judgement that Scientology survives not because it has any truth in it (it plainly doesn’t) but because its ideas, and they way these are applied by the organisation, function to control people in a variety of ways – that the ‘Church’ of Scientology is a kind of malignant social organism.

              Thank you for the insight that your replies have provided for me. This is one of the wonderful things about this forum – the variety of people who all share a common cause.

            • Lady Squash

              The tricky part is that Hubbard’s teachings contain some truth. For example, I appreciate the fact that the Study Tech re-introduced me to the dictionary. Don’t misunderstand me. I was not illiterate. But beyond grade school, the thinking was that you learn the meaning of words from their context. Hubbard’s insistence on the importance of knowing what the dictionary said, was very interesting to me. I found out I only had spotty ideas about what some words meant. And I enjoyed increasing my vocabulary. I was somewhat dazzled by his “discovery”. But in time, this pressure to know what Hubbard said so well you could regurgitate it, was oppressive and blotted out reflection and any meaningful learning.
              I’ve had to get over the compulsion to constantly “look up my words” now that I am in the outside world. If it’s important I will, but sometimes it’s just not important.
              And I had to get over the compulsion to thoroughly study the direction to something, before just trying intuitively to figure it out. Much to my amazement I find that I can intuitively figure a lot of stuff out. In Scientology, it is a crime to use a new piece of equipment without “studying” the instructions first and getting a check out on it and then getting an Okay from a Supervisor. Control, control, control. Hubbard said in a policy letter that income equaled control. That tells you a lot about where his head was at.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Another foto depicting efects of panting stress. From Wikipedia’s site about Freewinds

  • D.Y.G.

    In October, Scientology answered the writs by saying that it didn’t owe the drydock company any money, and asked for attorney’s fees to be awarded for the bother.

    Riiiiiiight. The Freewinds was drydocked at Curaçao Drydock Company on Sept 22 or 23 of last year, and stayed there until approximately October 14. So they did in fact pay (or owe) for services rendered the same month they claimed not to owe any money.

    • D.Y.G.

      Here’s evidence to back it up, courtesy of the fine folks at WWP who track the ship–

      https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/freewinds-in-dry-dock-from-23-september-to-14-october.113729/

      • midatlanticcoast

        I may be missing something again but why would anyone pay money to sit on a dilapidated “cruise ship” in dry dock? Not that I would want to be on the Freewinds in dry dock or at sea.

        • D.Y.G.

          I have no idea why anyone would think this is a good idea. I would think drydock would be a fairly noisy/smelly place, and the scenery would definitely suck.

        • BosonStark

          It’s a unique opportunity to go on a stationary cruise. Next stop, the Van Allen Belt.

        • Techie

          During dry dock the “passengers” do their Freewinds thing on land in Clearwater. Most of the year the Freewinds is docked at places like Curacao etc.

          • midatlanticcoast

            “Passengers”/”Prisoners”

          • D.Y.G.

            They were literally selling a dry dock package last year as some kind of “unique experience”. Check the WWP link above for the image.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I saw that but my brain just kept giving me an error message, reject. Hubbard established a level of greed that was beyond greed. Actually, now that I think of it, greed might be the wrong concept. It’s just one more manifestation of the combined mental disorders he suffered from which unfortunately came from a person with no conscience.

    • Graham

      And $cientology are well known for being such prompt payers (I don’t think).

    • ze moo

      If the lawyers for the cuban ‘slaves’ pursue it, the lie ‘Flag’ told in court will really haunt the ‘chirch’. That all depends on getting billing statements from the drydock and any payment schedule the Freewinds has contracted for. Could that lie cause the seizure of the ship? One could hope……

  • Sejanus

    An Org board……
    sounds like a water board to me.

    • NOLAGirl

      If given a choice, I might chose to be water-boarded over anything to do with an Org. Board.

    • Buffetgirl

      You’re as big a buffoon here I see. Jerkoff.

    • Robert Eckert

      Wow, you’ve got your own private troll! Such an honor.

  • BosonStark

    “Hold your hat, it gives the cycle of raw meat to OT,” and it doesn’t cause pneumonia if you learn about it before you’re ready? What’s up with that? Space loons, it’s “livingingness.” It’s the Org Board!

    Dr. Hubtard and some fellow Sciloons applied it to an 80 trillion year-old galactic civilization which had failed because it lacked a few departments of the Org board. This is factual and totally Sciloontific.

    I’m still waiting for an ABC or other network interviewer to ask the Scientology spokescreature about Dr. Hubtard’s use of the term “raw meat,” as found in this important lecture and used frequently by the master of knowingness. But, since the cult is in hiding, including their spokescreature, no one is going to be asking that question very soon.

    • Mark

      “Spokescreature”? Snortle! :)

      • TDA1541A

        Officially David Miscavige is he Spokewoman of Scientology because he has nothing to do with management per his own admittance

  • Mark

    ‘Org boards’? Looks more like ‘Marble Madness':
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrcJQ-9-xk

    • Techie

      Very apropos Mark but to really model a Scientology career it would have to be an M. C. Escher version. Maybe I’ll code one.

      • Mark

        Marble Madness was very like $camatology – no matter how high your score, you always had to go back to the beginning in the end – at least in the Amiga version (and that had an extra level).

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Exactly!

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    • Panopea Abrupta

      Gotcha, will Red-X then gone all day ;)

      • Pierrot

        thanks, we will try to do.

  • Simi Valley

    It’s hard to believe the Freewinds would hire an outside company to do repairs when it had all those SO members to work for free. Speaking of drydock, I was on the Freewinds when it was in drydock, and tje paying guests, were allowed to use the bathrooms as usual, but the SO members doing the drydock work were NOT – they had to go somewhere down the road to do their thing.

    • valshifter

      They treat their own members as 3rd class citizens, but when they want to recruit you they promised that you will be part of an Elite, la crème de la crème!!!, that has to go outside under the weather like dogs, poor things.

    • RMycroft

      Why don’t we do it in the road?

      • Simi Valley

        They bloody well had to. Or maybe they had a couple of port-o-sans set up.

    • Simi Valley

      Now that I think of it, the crew on board during drydock – course supervisors, kitchen staff, etc. – probably also had to disembark and go somewhere down the road as a water conservation thing.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Just when you think….

    • TDA1541A

      Scientology’s Asbestos Boat:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSGQbzlnjng

  • Science Doc

    5 or 6 years ago I was on one of the A, B, C Dutch Antilles Islands for a week, and what did I spot tied up at the mole but the Freewinds. It sat there the entire week. I passed it an average of 4 times a day. Only once did I see a person on the gangplank.

    • Jerseygram

      It was docked in Aruba when I was there last November. It actually has a creepy look about it.

  • Jerseygram

    So is an Org Board essentially an organizational flow chart?

    • Narapoid

      Yep

      • Jerseygram

        And Hubbard had to go intergalactic to get one?

        • Narapoid

          Yep

  • Guest

    Wait…. Miscavige doesn’t agree with LRH about the Org Boards?
    That’s entheta!!! Just like “Golden Age of Tech II.”

  • Narapoid

    Captain Miscavige’s approach to the Org board… (refresh)

    • TDA1541A

      He looks good today, new hairspray ?

  • valshifter

    Puling scientology into a slave labor litigation could be the window needed to open up the can of worms on that issue, scientology fiercely avoids to be open. Am sorry for the Cuban workers, scientologist are the Masters of slave labor they will fight till the end to avoid paying one penny for reparation to these workers, and we know the shredders are working 24/7 to hide any paper trail showing that they owe any money to the drydock facility. But is a good start.
    This must be a nightmare for little fists, he must be like WTF? this is not even our own slave labor issues and we still being pulled into it. LOL

  • ze moo

    That super center of $cientology looked a lot like the Krell underground city in ‘Forbidden Planet’. Just more sci-fi woo-woo.

    It is so fitting that $cientology has run afoul of the ‘Alien Tort Act’.

    • RMycroft

      But instead of Monsters from the Id, they’ve got Monsters from the Ego.

      • ze moo

        As Davey always does things in big ways, shouldn’t it be his ‘superego’? The spacey setting of the clam vid is so funny.

        • RMycroft

          I think I’ll need depositions from Shelly Miscavige, Laurisse Stuckenbrock and Tom Cruise before I’ll believe that there’s anything super about it.

  • Mark

    If ‘org boards’ and the like are your ruling passion in life, I suspect the following charts from Arnie Lerma may be studied with considerably more profit than any old tosh Slubbard dreamt up: http://www.lermanet.com/reference/graphicindex.htm (refresh):

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Wow! At first glance, just on a superficial visual level, these charts and diagrams depict the insane, criminal mind that lies behind the Co$ and OSA. Thanks for the link, too.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Is this a new ‘sign’ possibility at protests: Squirell – Miscavige refuses to enact ORG BOARD as per policy!

  • RMycroft

    Next up is Jessica Wieneke (Gilchrist) (who was famously “persecuted” in Germany by being bullied in school for being a child Scilon)

    And now she’s bullied in the Hole. And so it goes.
    Scientology’s Concentration Camp for Its Executives: The Prisoners, Past and Present August 2, 2012, Tony Ortega, Runnin’ Scared, Village Voice

    (That article has so many names that it broke the transfer to UmbaXenu, and I’ll have it finish the large page routine.)

  • Science Doc

    May I suggest a more modern ship that could be picked up for a song but might need a little TLC by committed clergy on a billion year contract?

    • D.Y.G.

      Just a little water damage. No big deal.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Sherb already booked (see below)

    • Phil McKraken

      It just occurred to me that when a certain Captain COB RTC flees the sinking COS he will then be said to have the courage of an Italian cruise ship captain*.

      * To all Italian cruise ship captains: Please note that I speak only of Schettino in my jest.

  • nottrue

    Rambling Ron zzzzzzzzzzzz…………..

    • Captain Howdy

      “Rambling Ron’ should be on the list.

  • NOLAGirl

    This is totally O/T but is funny. It’s a comment I just read at Rinder’s and it sums up Davey’s kingdom pretty well.

    Robert Almblad says

    April 12, 2014 at 10:43 am

    GAG II could only be produced if you are totally disconnected from the field. There are at least 6 bubbles that DM is inside: Bubble 1) surrounded by a dozen sycophants in constant fear of getting disappeared 2) surrounded by 3,000 cowered sea org members living in fear of telling the truth that GAG II was a piece of shit and it hit the fan the day it was released to the public 3) surrounded by 2,000 koolaid drinking public “clapping seals” that are gleeful and in fear because they might not be allowed to go up to OT levels 4) surrounded by 10,000 under the radar that will not tell DM what they think of his bullshit, for one reason or another. 5) surrounded by 500 million people that think Scientology is nuts 6) surrounded by 6.5 billion that never heard of Scientology and when they do hear about it, they research it and think it is nuts.

    GAG II is the doomsday bomb for Scientology. Go OT VII. Then rinse and repeat. Yeah, right. That’s gonna work great… kaboom.

  • Mat Pesch

    As a point of clarification, Ronnie Rathbun is not related to Marty.

    • Marc Headley

      Thanks Matt. The ancestry police have been sending me emails all morning since this posted…

      • TDA1541A

        Unrelated Marc, but have you seen many people with a form of autism like aspergers or such get cought up in Scientology ?

        • Marc Headley

          Nope. I was on the far end of the business side. Not much experience with paying members sucked in and bled dry of all cash until after I left.

          • TDA1541A

            thank you

  • Baby

    Marc.. Thank you.. I sure as hell hope you had the sound off on that video as you went through to identify everyone.. Good God I was ready to puke hearing Hubs voice..ugh..

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      Oh,The Rocky Horror of it all,Baby..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYC4LFEMN8

      • midatlanticcoast

        If their mouths are moving, they’re lying.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Excellent. The video ends with, “This is monstrous.”

        Not only that. It is a felony as practicing medicine without a license is against the law.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        He had a,”cute case of assma..”

      • Baby

        Oh Troy.. Yay..I loved it.. I had never seen it before and book marked it.. Thank you.. Oh that Miss Cabbage is such a charmer ain’t he! SWOOOOOOOOOONS..

        and PUKE…

  • nosce

    “… Alien Tort Act, which allows plaintiffs to sue in American courts for violations that happen in other countries”
    —- Could this work for the case in Canada that we talked about yesterday?

  • http://www.rediscoverscientology.com/blogs/joe-howard.html Joe Howard

    Wait a second, Mark, Ronnie Rathbun is Marty’s brother? Since when?

    • Marc Headley

      My mistake. I always assumed they were and no one ever told me they weren’t.

      • Sherbet

        Ha! Next you’ll be assuming you’re somehow related to Claire Headley…

        • 1subgenius

          Yes! How can you believe an SP who makes a mistake (if it was one)!
          He has no credibility.

      • nosce

        I’m just wondering if Martina Une gets her last name from Terence Une.

        • Marc Headley

          Yes, his wife. She is German I think.

          • nosce

            Thank you Marc! He and I were in the same dorm at PAC in early 90’s. I knew him to be a very good guy. I hope he is doing well.

            • Marc Headley

              Terence is the guy that watches you when you tell someone you want to leave. He usually sits outside your door all night while you sleep. Or hangs out with you during the day whilst you are working.

            • nosce

              WOW that is creepy! I don’t like this Terence!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I wondered about that.?
        Hey wait a sec, Bill “Balls to the Walls” Brugger is in the Hole? Or did he escape? I can Not believe he wound up at Int. Just did quick check and saw he was Trustee at one time for IHelp and WUS. Wow. Scientology can really fuck up anyone. I can’t picture him NOT squashing little Davey like a bug.

      • http://www.rediscoverscientology.com/blogs/joe-howard.html Joe Howard

        Hilarious. I thought you were being ironic when I read your comments.

  • valshifter

    LRH always wants to give an air of Foreverness to his speeches, to make you believe he was there at the beginning of time, to give you a Godlike impression of himself. And at the same time to diminish you because you don’t have anything from millennia down the track to prove that you been there, He does he has the Org board, he copied from an ancient civilization. wow so he either was living there around that time or he went down the time track as in auditing and remembered that ancient org board he does not explain, how he got it.
    “it was dreamed up with malice forethought” he said. sometimes I cannot believe how blunt he is to state what he is doing in creating the bridge.
    “take care of the noncompliance” we know what that means.
    “frankly there is nothing to erase between clear and OT except the physical universe? does anybody know what this statement means?

    • 1subgenius

      I suspect he went to a few carnivals as a child.

      • RMycroft

        That’s where he picked up his Gorilla Goals.

        • 1subgenius

          “Gorilla Goals”

          Even Mr. Google is stumped by that one.

          • Robert Eckert

            Brought up this classic Hubbloviation quoted by a fascinated observer just days after the Anonymous “Declaration of War Against Scientology”:

            http://markmaynard.com/2008/01/the-gorilla-goals-of-scientology/

            • 1subgenius

              Thanks for that.

              Holy shi—-he really WAS traumatized at the carnival. How did I guess?

              And he learned what a carny, who I was putting up long ago (guy was about 5 foot 5 and had hair to his waist), told me, “There’s only two kinds of people in the world: carnies and suckers.”

              For Hubbard of course it became something different.

              BTW the big “Rite of Spring” event: 8-9 cars including the old beat up yellow VM van.

              But an interesting sign out front. Maybe that’s what kept them away.

  • Observer

    Ugh, I don’t know which is more repellent: crazy ranting Ron or soft-spoken avuncular Ron. I could just hear that gentle voice saying, “Would you like some candy, little girl?” *shudder*

  • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

    I hate L. Ron’s speaking/writing style — not just because it is jargon-filled nonsense — but because it is ugly and clumsy as well. “Livingness” for example is ambiguous, clunky and communicates virtually nothing.

    The suffix “-ness” is used to change adjectives (and a few participles) into nouns that describe quality or state e.g. goodness, badness, darkness, weakness, etc.

    Adding it to a noun is pointless and redundant.

    Adding it to a verb is awkward and hardly ever yields a valuable result. Hubbard’s insistence on modifying verbs with this ending serves no apparent purpose and is aesthetically displeasing as well.

    “Livingness” according to the rules of English, would mean: a quality or state of living (being alive), but the root word “living” already means that on it’s own.

    And, it sounds stupid and weird.

    The same goes for “beingness” and “havingness”.

    Okay, grammar rant over.

    • 1subgenius

      Its just the stupidocity of an insecure narcissist directed to and adopted by those who need to just feel smart, not really be smart.
      Its all so sad. But I really feel for you. To me as well, it all sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard.

      • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

        I love the craft of writing and a well turned phrase. This man purposefully uses jargon, inefficiency and obfuscation in his word choice to hinder communication. He is the linguistic equivalent of a fugitive overturning trashcans behind him so that you can’t follow him.

        • 1subgenius

          One finds this linguistic overreaching in the insecurely inadequate.
          Folk who try to use bigger words than they even understand.
          I know you know some.

          • vistaril_LOL

            true,.also reflected in a failed sailor setting up a toy navy.

            • 1subgenius

              Totally.
              Everything about “it” is a projection of his mental illness.
              Mental illness, like many others, takes on a life of its own, and seeks to survive and propagate.
              It may be, as James Gleick posits, that everything is made up of information. (What is DNA?)

              Information is in control. And if that “information” is a bunch of shit, well, there you go, and here we are.
              And Bob’s you’re uncle.

            • vistaril_LOL

              the paranoia about “smells” occurs in some mental illnesses too.

        • nosce

          The more one has to use his “tech” to decipher his writing the more ingrained the
          “tech” becomes, the more people depend on it. Clever, really. I just got sick of having to figure out what the fu$@#! the “best” communicator is trying to communicate. GRRrrrr What an ugly trap!

          • 1subgenius

            Yes, it also serves hypnotic brainwashing purposes.

            • nosce

              I tried to re-read Dianetics the other day and . . . I just could not get myself to begin. One can no longer take it seriously! One cannot get that time back. I tore it, and tried to shred it but felt bad for my shredder so I just threw it into the complex trash bin; let it decompose slowly in some land fill.

            • 1subgenius

              I’ll bet you actually did. And I find the image amusing.
              Thanks for the laugh.

            • Betsy

              I had an instant mental image of your shredder getting “content poisoning” and regurgitating all the shreds like a person who has recently eaten bad clams…(hey! bad clams! Good one, Betsy!)

        • Mooser

          “He is the linguistic equivalent of a fugitive overturning trashcans behind him so that you can’t follow him”

          That’s better than mine, about Hubbard being ” the literary and ethical equivalent of a man who cuts off his own limbs for the disability insurance.”

        • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

          I wonder how much of his ability to produce the gobbledeygook was part of an organic brain condition/mental illness and how much of it was sheer hucksterism.

        • Betsy

          Well, of course LRH was never going to be confused with Robert Penn Warren. But I have thought on occasion that part of his jargon came about because he originally thought his twisting of words and structure were humorous or showed sophistication. His childhood diary entries and letters to his wife show early forms of this. Later these manipulations probably became built-in…and culminated in such discursive marvels as that talk when he goes on about “extremelah somethinglah” and repeats it about a hundred times, obviously having moved well beyond the point when he might have detected that his little furbelows (both written and spoken) had become vices and not cute surprise twists. That “ness” thing is certainly one of his most egregious deformations of the language. But it all comes together to give us a portrait of a man who not only thought he was above the law…he thought he was above the requirements of his own language.

          • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

            “his little furbelows (both written and spoken) had become vices and not cute surprise twists”
            I agree.

    • Captain Howdy

      Ness is MORE

      Learn it, live it, love it.

    • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

      What kind of boggles me is that people have the patience to read through it, much less listen to LRon meander his way through his ramblings. So much so, that I have never bothered to read through more than the first paragraph of Co$ literature ( Sunday Funny flyers are more than enough to slog through!) and haven’t listened to the videos Tony puts up. Reading bits of transcripts was enough. The gag reflex kicks in. I suppose it’s the luxury of having been exposed to good writing and well-presented reasoning and taught their value since I was very young. That and as a never in, I can’t fathom that I would ever gain anything from it. I really feel for those who do struggle and suffer through the verbiage because they believe it will help them solve life problems or because they’re seekers willing to look anywhere. They struggle, don’t get it because there’s nothing there to get, are blamed for their failure, and sent ’round to repeat until the “magic” works. The deficiency is theirs. Ugh! It’s the Myth of Sisyphus for the modern age.

  • nottrue

    …….

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Wow!

  • mook

    Greta Van Susteren went on a rant last night on her Fox News show, showing her inner clam

    https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/greta-van-susteren-takes-anti-fox-news-guest-152500909.html

    • midatlanticcoast

      At least she didn’t ask him, “What are your crimes?”.

    • RMycroft

      After Dickinson refused to drop his “war on Fox News,” Van Susteren called him a piece of work.

      I’ve never quite understood why people partially quote that emo-kid Hamlet as an insult. Do they even read?

    • Observer

      “You’re a piece of work!”

      Let’s evaluate that statement, shall we?

      Dickinson: Hates Fox News, tweets about them
      Van Susteren: Is a member of, supports, and contributes financially to Scientology, where scenes like this occur:

      • Mooser

        It was said a small pig, wasn’t it?

        • Observer

          You know what’s even worse than the pic itself? That it was published in a Scientology-wide Sea Org magazine, which tells me that the editorial staff saw nothing wrong in the fact that Souse was attended by a small girl who had been seriously injured.

          • 1subgenius

            The art and science (and curse) of noticing.
            Thanks for noticing. Even though it made me sad beyond belief.
            Oh shi—–your screen name…..I just noticed.

      • TDA1541A
      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Ask her about Safe Pointing. That should shut her wooden lips.

    • Her_Royal_Blondeness

      I can’t say I blame her for this particular incident. The guy she was interviewing is a total douchnozzle.

  • Observer
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Just so folks can see what is being discussed about the shape the hull is in, as well as how busy. Out of 11 people visible in this pic, only 4 are in civilian clothes. Scientology always has a dozen gallons of paint to slap over reality, but never a single sheet of toilet paper to wipe up the shit underneath.

      http://i.imgur.com/zBJR2Ji.jpg

      • TDA1541A

        Freewinds Background

        From the origins to the the major repairs of 2008

        In 1987 the so-called Church of Scientology bought an aged car ferry called Bohème
        which had been built in Finland in 1968. The circumstances of the
        purchase included the mysterious death of Bud Fields, an agent working
        for another would-be purchaser. The ascertainable facts are that in
        1985 the body of a Florida boat-broker called Bud Fields was found
        floating off Longboat Key where he lived. He had reportedly not wanted
        Scientology to buy this boat. Almost immediately after his death the
        purchase went through for a sum reported to be $10 or $11 million.
        Robert Dam, a Danish freezoner, suggests that those acting for
        Scientology in this deal should have been aware of the risks of buying a
        buying a converted car ferry built in the 1960s, when asbestos was
        commonly used as insulation, or perhaps were aware of the asbestos but
        not worried by it.

        Those interested in unconfirmed rumors will find them at

        http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Freewinds_Background

        • RMycroft

          Hmm. The wikia article seems fixated that the Bohème was a car ferry, but that was changed during construction and never carried cars.

          As for the purchase, definitely 1986. (In 1985 it was busy running aground.)
          http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/%27Boheme%27_sold;_plan_unclear
          As a cruise ship, carried 500.
          http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Scientologists_seek_a_port_for_%22Boheme%22

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Thanks TDA for the link. I didn’t know WWP had a wiki. I’ve happily bookmarked it and will explore it later.

          • RMycroft

            They did, but not too many people were contributing, especially after a couple crash-wipes, so the effort was redirected. There are a few archived copies in other places.

            From experiments, a good article can rank up with Wikipedia ones, so I might have a go at it again once the Googlebot gets finished and I know where UmbraXenu sits in the general ranking.

          • TDA1541A

            Do take in mind it as another commented flawed a bit on some points but getting to the bottom of it yourself can be rewarding too.

      • Once_Born

        Like Miscavige, it’s…. much smaller than I imagined.

        • Missionary Kid

          That will be posted later on THE $CIENTOLOGY BOAT under the $cientology Structures list.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Me too when I first saw it.

        • TDA1541A

          The life boats are probably rotten

      • Missionary Kid

        Perfect: Scientology always has a dozen gallons of paint to slap over reality, but never a single sheet of toilet paper to wipe up the shit underneath. THINGS SAID ABOUT $CIENTOLOGY http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1144801640

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        “Scientology always has a dozen gallons of paint to slap over reality,
        but never a single sheet of toilet paper to wipe up the shit underneath.”

        OMG, that is so-o perfect! You’ve surpassed even yourself with that sentence. I’m going to try to find Mish Kid, our Master List Keeper, to make sure he adds that to one of his lists!

        ETA: I just noticed Mish Kid already found your clever one liner and will add it to the list.

  • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

    . . .

    • Observer

      This makes a lot more sense!

    • Mark

      I just transliterated some of that back out of MS Dingbats – now go and wash your mouth out, you dirty girl! ;)

      • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

        Tee-hee!

  • USA MRIID

    Scientology has a history of not paying their bills, even when painters worked inside their Fort Harrison “Hotel” and even when people put in carpets, Mike Rinder refused to pay companies for the work that was done in the “Hotel.”

    I have some hope that Scientology will continue to fight having to pay the victims rather than the dock company just so, as Tony notes, Scientology gets even more detailed coverage of its crimes.

    • RMycroft

      Not paying bills on time is policy.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9uXd_71yrM

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Oh, poor “church spokesperson” at 0:55. His ability to “confront and shatter” is on full display.

        I watched those few seconds over and over. Too funny. Thanks.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        “Attack first”,Assholes!

      • nottrue

        Grabby little asshole……….

        • richelieu jr

          “Grabby Little Asshole” hmmm;..

          Whattaya say we go ahead and slap that on the list of things said about Slappy Miscavige, can we? I know it wasn’t meant that way, but it the Foo Shits, eh?

      • Phil McKraken

        That Scientology dude is priceless! He shoots to my top 3, with “stuck in an incident” George and stalker lady at Monique’s door.

    • RMycroft
      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Want moar Carpet Dude stories… puhleeezee? (Kidding.) Thanks for the link.

  • Jgg2012

    As for the Cuban workers, I think Scientology’s involvement highlights one thing: they maintain that they support human rights, but work with a dry dock company that uses slave labor. They didn’t know about it? They accuse psychs all over the world of crimes, but don’t check the record of companies they do business with? When the lawsuit was filed, they didn’t stop doing business with them and paid them all the money they owed them?

  • Pierrot

    Are you outraged by co$?
    Wondering how you can help?
    Join the RED X team and flag co$ ads on craigslist.
    Tell your friends and family about the RED X project.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-72#post-2444661

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED Call 1-866-XSEAORG
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT, Call 1-866-XSEAORG

    ty Baby

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      X marks the spot and nails down Pierrot’s post.

    • Once_Born

      At the bottom of your comment you have a message which I assume is aimed at supporting people who are having doubts about Scientology. I recently came across the following two links, which also offer useful information and advice to those having doubts, and could be used in the same way.

      Starting out: how to find your way in Mainstream America http://startingout.icsa.name/
      Leave Scientology http://leavescientology.blogspot.co.uk/

      The first is an interesting guide to the details of everyday life in the US tailored to people who are thinking of leaving a ‘cult’ group after many years (or were born into one) and are deterred from doing so by the fact that have no experience of life ‘on the outside’ – for example, they don’t know obtain a driving licence, register to vote or, sometimes, even how to behave in mainstream social encounters.

      The second offers advice about the best ways to break ties with Scientology, and how to readjust to life in mainstream society.

      I should say that I am an English never-in, so I have no way of judging whether these resources are as good as they look – so I’d appreciate the judgements of those who are qualified to judge.

      • Dancing Cranberry

        Thanks for the links, Once Born. I had a quick look and will add them to my next post.

      • Pierrot

        Thank you once_born, we are advertising on behalf of Chuck Beaty (I am not sure if I am spelling his name correctly). I do not see him here today but I will save your links and pass them to him when I see him.

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    When an “Org Board” is believed to be some kind of “scripture” carved out of stone (titanium) tablets and handed down by “man’s best friend” or OT deity (aka Source) and is headed by a leader who is not only a classic example of The Peter Principle (someone who rises to his level of incompetency) and has no business nor leadership skills, never mind a basic high school education, but who is a narcissist and sociopath, the organizational culture he creates eventually seeps down to the lower levels of the organizational structure, where his work force, out of fear of management and fear created by mismanagement, will work hard at giving the appearance of dedication and manic “busyness” when, in fact, they are merely spending long unproductive hours staying busy “trying to do nothing all day” – as Marc Headley said above. In that kind of work environment, who wouldn’t keep their gaze down, nose to the grindstone, keeping up appearances of being too busy to be interrupted, of being very productive, in hopes of NOT standing out amongst the group of uniformed, trained drones? The deception is necessary to avoid being hauled into Ethics and/or be accused of being CICS (counter intentioned to command source).

    Even without the external pressures forcing change or the dismantling of the Co$ and arrest of its leader, the organization will eventually implode from its own 60 year history of ignoring its inflexible organizational structure and the problems created by it, of applying the wrong solution to (externally or internally created) problems, or of, like Miscavige and the Co$ have the habit of doing, insanely applying the same ineffective solution to a problem over and over again simply because it is dictated by LRH policy.

    Not even taking into consideration the fact that this organization is trying to sell a failed, fraudulent, and dangerous product, nor the problems created by LRH’s original organizational structure which caused its stagnation and now its inevitable decline, its policies and current leader caused workforce inefficiency and inability to put out “product” (other than fundraising stats) due to poor morale as a result of fanatical mismanagement and leadership.

    Poor morale as a result of an abusive organizational culture can sometimes be the deciding factor in the success or failure of an organization. We are seeing and hearing evidence of this as more and more scientology “refugees” have left the “church” and are publicly telling their stories to the media. We are seeing more and more former Sea Org members, Staff, and “church” members leaving and no longer intimidated into silence.

    The structural steel, so to speak, used to build this ‘church’ was weak, poorly manufactured with cheap or fictitious materials, and never was up to “code” to begin with. External pressures combined with its own original structural weaknesses, makes it destined to collapse.

    And once the structure collapses, those remaining will be found dazed, confused, and stumbling around the smoking ruins of the very structure they worked so hard to prop up. I just hope that somehow there will be some kind of temporary refuge or way station created to triage the wounded and then gently, and with compassionate, guided into the waiting hands and arms of the appropriate agencies, charity groups, and family members – except for those that need to be forcefully escorted to waiting police vans, of course!

    • richelieu jr

      Marc gives some wonderful examples of this in his book, though the crown my go to Nancy Many who describes what a non-Scilon might think of an Org on Wednesday afternoon (in the early 70s).. A flurry of activity, tons f movement, motivated people, eveyrone on the phone, etc…
      Friday morning, no one event here to make coffee…

  • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Natalia 2.0

    (refresh)

    • TDA1541A

      lol

      • richelieu jr

        Otherwise known as “Bobbing for Cob”

    • nosce

      That pretty much sums it up IMHO! :)

  • TDA1541A
    • RMycroft

      Not a single bruise or eye-patch in sight. Must be shooped!

      • TDA1541A

        The original must be Narcissis right ?

  • Jgg2012

    “one of mechanisms you can use is you can file a writ of garnishment on people who you think owe the defendant money” Interestingly, the dry dock company is not going after Scientology, for whatever reason, but its creditor is. I think its because the amount is small for them but large for the plaintiffs.
    This gave me an idea. If someone has a judgment against the US govt. and can show that Scientology owes them money because it fraudulently evades taxes (even though the IRS isn’t pursuing it), could that person go after Scientology?

    • Once_Born

      Or someone has a judgement against a company which folded when/because it was owed money by the CofS

      • Jgg2012

        Or, a foreign judgment vs. Scientology is not satisfied, so they come here and attach their $2
        Billion of assets here. Belgium may obtain large verdicts vs. Scientology, which Scientology’s Belgium office won’t pay (it’ll go bankrupt) so they collect the balance here. A US court can (but does not have to) recognize a foreign judgment against a private corporation in the US.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      You don’t have to have any connection, past or present, to CoS, to turn them in to the IRS:

      Bounty Program Catching On

      The idea behind the IRS whistleblower program was to give people a financial incentive to help produce information that helps the agency catch people with unpaid tax liability. Under the program, the person who reports the tax abuse can get as much as 30 percent of what the IRS collects in taxes, interest, and penalties.

      The whistleblower program was slow to get off the ground, but activity picked up considerably last year.

      For the fiscal years from 2008 to 2011, the program received more than 24,000 cases and made more than 500 awards to whistleblowers, but the amounts paid were relatively modest, totaling less than $55 million.

      During fiscal 2012, however, 128 awards totaling more than $125 million were paid, though that includes one high-profile case that paid $104 million to whistleblower Bradley Birkenfeld for helping the IRS catch violators who had put money in Swiss bank accounts to try to escape taxation.

      http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/03/19/tax-cheat-whistleblowers-rewards-cut-sequester/

      • Jgg2012

        Or, turn in Narconon, which is supposedly non-profit but diverts tons of funds to Scientology.

  • Mark

    Sorry to report that a mere seven remaining $cientology adverts on CraigsList & Gumtree in the UK are proving very hard to remove, even after ten days of sterling efforts by the Red-X Brigade at WWP. Might I impose on my fellow Bunkerites to come to the rescue yet again, in flagging the damned things out of existence?

    http://oxford.craigslist.co.uk/search/?sort=rel&areaID=211&subAreaID=&query=scientology+%7C+dianetics&catAbb=sss
    http://www.gumtree.com/sellerads/1053016010

    (For Gumtree: click the grey ‘Report Ad’ button in the top right-hand corner of each ad. In the pop-up, if you choose to report the ad as illegal/fraudulent, you do have to type in a reason for your complaint. Otherwise, if you choose spam, comment is optional).

    If we could get rid of one lot of $cibot ads in just 40 minutes, a final effort here may be the straw that breaks the Miscavicamel’s back! (refresh):

    • Qbird

      done. tks for added instructions Mark.

    • Suppressive Meritorius

      Done.

    • richelieu jr

      I’ve done it, but I can see why they aren’t coming down- They do openly say ‘Church of Scientology’, and are doubtless giving pretty much what they promise (ie a booklet full of crap)…

      I honestly don’t have too much problem with ads like these. as long as they are admiting they are Scilons, then Caveat Emptor at this point. I just can’t abide the offereing of helop, or drug counseling, or legal advice, or study aids and it’s really a come-on to yell at ashtrays and lose your savings and family.. or sanity…

      • Mark

        I’d say the ads are at least questionable under the UK’s Trades Descriptions Act – the ones on CL from the Bournemouth Mission (in Poole via Oxford – why?) because they’re filed under “owner” & not “dealer” – the HAPI ones from Edinburgh because they claim $ciloonery is based on “half a century of research” (a barefaced lie) and that Diarrhetics “is not some positive-thinking fad or feel-better-quick scheme” – when that’s exactly what it always has been.

        • richelieu jr

          Well, I’m no lawyer, but I’m with you in the moral sense, at any rate.

    • Jimmy3

      They kept telling me that my feedback is important to them. That makes me feel special.

  • FOTF2012

    Ron was adept at using concepts to create tie-ins that seemed to validate the starting assumptions. This become a sort of circular logic, or self-fulfilling logic: “Here’s an org board that let a civilization survive trillions of years” (validates Whole Track) “before it collapsed” (validates Scientology, the only truly workable technology every) “but we have fixed that org board” (validates Hubbard’s “genius”) “and discovered that it parallels the Bridge and Life” (validates Hubbard’s supposedly deep insights).

    I’ve studied and designed lots of org charts over the years, and I find some of Hubbard’s ideas to be useful. But to design an org chart that can never change is insanity. And an org chart that needs to survive, unchanged, for trillions of years? This is sheer stupidity resting on fundamental ignorance. First, there is every indication that the universe will not last trillions of years. Second, but even if it does, it is unimaginable that humans will be in any form like we are now — we will have gone extinct, or we will have evolved to something that would be utterly unrecognizable to us as our descendants. Third, organizations may no longer exist in any form trillions of years from now, or if they do exist it will not be with human cultures or human needs.

    Ah, but you say that Ron is not talking about humans, but is talking about thetans, and so his long time lines don’t apply. Au contraire, Ron is quite clear that “humans” have been around pretty much forever, and nearly 100 million years ago we looked and acted pretty much like we do now — and that the same holds true for much longer spans of time. Such claims are patently unscientific and lack any merit for consideration.

    So an org chart that lasts trillions of years? Nope. Won’t happen and would be stupidly counter-survival if it did, since it would cripple any organization from growth or adaptation. And not even the titanium plates in their underground bunkers will save Scientology. In the billions-of-years range, the sun will become a red giant, swell in size, sterilize Earth of life, and eventually envelope and consume the planet, destroying every trace that we — or Scientology — ever existed.

    • FOTF2012

      Devil’s Advocate speaking here: If that org board were so powerful, wouldn’t every staff person in Scientology be affluent in every sense of the word (money, leisure time, progress on the “Bridge,” and so on)?

      Perhaps what Ron really “recalled” from the “Whole Track” was another of his many misunderstandings. Maybe he got the org board of a slaver dictatorship that could utterly control everything and everyone.

      Thus we see the End Phenomena of a Puppet (Miscavige) Government being killed by its Morgue Boards as it gives up on trying to achieve the chimerical abilities and products imagined by Hubbard’s brain, and repurposes the Church to real estate acquisition for Ideal Morgues.

      • richelieu jr

        Hubbard does say (though I can’t really see how, in a practicable sense) that they included ways of self-correction…

      • RMycroft

        In all of his past lives, Hubbard was riding in the short bus part of the universe, and never got to see how the real thetans organized things.

      • Dr_Orpheus

        “Maybe he got the org board of a slaver dictatorship that could utterly control everything and everyone.”

        If he did get it from a slaver dictatorship, it would suit his goal of making everyone his slave.

        • FOTF2012

          That would make sense, Dr.! And I find myself scratching my head: the bad org chart that Ron improved was so bad that it … lasted a trillion years?

          Come on, Ron! A planet and a solar system won’t even last that long. Countries don’t last that long. Civilizations fall in just thousands of years. In a trillion years the sentient species would have evolved into something else. And yet an org chart somehow lasted and was useful for a trillion years? And then Ron recalled it and made that subtle little tweak that would make it last, what, twice as long? Forever?

          Really?

          • Dr_Orpheus

            Putting too much thought into where and how Ron got his BS will make your head explode.

    • richelieu jr

      Tautology thy name is Hubbard (becasue) Hubbard thy name is tautology.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Are you saying the universe is only 14 billion years old? What’s wrong with you!

      • FOTF2012

        LOL — wow, I must have an M/U!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Besides Ron the Psychiatrist, one of my favorite of his pesonalities was Ron the Snitch who got in a few “tells” in this lecture of what the Org Board was really all about:

      “It’s dreamed up with malice aforethought. You put somebody on it and shove him straight through. It’s rigged (soft evil out loud smirk here), it’s rigged to remove distractions, reinforce the edges, pick up the barriers, take care of the non-compliance, re-impulse any particle on the line with a place for it to go. “

      • Panopea Abrupta

        I LOVE the typo, THDNE.

        Pesonalities – that is exactly what he had.
        A myriad of conflicting peso-nalities.
        And the nasty bastard couldn’t quite keep ‘em in line.

        Always having a nudge, nudge moment, since he was in love with his idea of himself being so clever.
        Disdain and sadism are usually the undertone with a thick layer of smarminess and false bonhomie.

  • LocalSP

    Is the Curaçao Drydock Company a W.I.S.E. member? The treatment of their workers sound like something right out of a scientology playbook.

  • richelieu jr

    It’s really the Executive Div 7 that really adds those extra 10 trillion or so years… Subtle bugger, that number 7…

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Are we sure that Scientology wasn’t responsible for that slavery? I mean the similarities…

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Of course, since using poor cubans as slaves to work on the Fartwinds is obviously the “greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics”, right?

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Apparently they are using Eastern European immigrants as slaves already so why not Cubans next.

        • Captain Howdy

          From atheistic oppression to spiritual oppression.

          • 3feetback-of-COS

            spiritual drecknology.

            • Sarah James

              for the scamologist.

  • richelieu jr

    I hope this isn’t taken as saying anything, even by inference, positive about LRH and his stupid, 1950’s ‘How to Succeed in Sales’ “tech”, but OF COURSE Miscavige doesn’t want an Org Board– He is after maximum power with minimum accountability. Whatever else it does or doesn’t do, the Org Board does assign responsibility….

    If he hadn’t figured it out before, Lisa Peterson must have cured him of putting his name on ‘looky what I did’ labelling…

    The Miscavige Board:

    Did it work?
    –Then I did it, even though it wasn’t my job, because I’m theonly one around here who can make it f’ing work, you f’ing idiots!!!

    Did it NOT work?
    DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTING AROUND HERE? YSCOHB, you f’ing idiots!!!

  • Sunny Sands

    Today the platform lifts are still working on the Coachman Building in Clearwater.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Can you tell if these are professional workers or not?

      • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

        Good question.

        Is it me, or does the building look like it’s tipping? Is that what the work is for?

        • Artoo45

          That’s just perspective.

      • Sunny Sands

        I think they are from a company. I saw a guy with a lime green t-shirt on, and the company name had the word green in it.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Ah, the anti leak company or the bug company? I wonder if this means the rooms are being retrofitted for an upgrade:

          http://i.imgur.com/YTtzhgul.jpg

    • Mark

      Still treating the rotten or corroded window-frames – or maybe they’re now on to painting them? (masking-tape would be a clue to that).

      • Sunny Sands

        This picture from 3/7 shows the lower portion of the building white, now it’s all an off-white color. So they are doing some painting. (Refresh)

        • Mark

          I sense another Grand Re-Re-Re-Re-Opening/Dedication in the offing; Davy still hasn’t got quite enough guff stuff for his next boasting-video. Now all we need to do is find out where they keep the big red bows…

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Platforms? Lifts? Is David preparing for a speech?

      • Sunny Sands

        ;-)

  • SvenBoogie

    Does anyone happen to know how I could download the video? Haven’t figured out how to grab em from that host yet…

    • Captain Howdy

      I googled “how to download videos from 56.com” and there seems to be some possibilities including something called clipnabber com which seems to have a free download. Whether it works or not is something else.

      http://clipnabber.com/

      • SvenBoogie

        I have a program that downloads embedded video, but for some reason it doesn’t seem to recognize any clips from that host. Oddly, it was able to download the two commercials that played before the video, but not the actual video…

        • SvenBoogie

          Still trying to figure this out, if anyone knows of a solution let me know.

          • media_lush

            on a mac I use SnapX Pro which records the video as a video screengrab with audio

            • SvenBoogie

              Yeah, I could do that, but was hoping for a more direct route to avoid any loss of quality, etc.

      • GalacticGreg

        Nice find! Their video looks very promising to include their program as browser add-on.

    • Techie

      If you know any fairly recent Scientology escapees they probably have the promo DVD that this came from. It was part of the promo for the Basics. They even sent me one!

      • SvenBoogie

        I don’t, just a never in who stumbled onto info about the cult, and enjoys mocking it at every opportunity.

      • SvenBoogie

        If you (or anyone else reading) has a way to get it to me, either the dvd or an uploaded video of it, I wouldn’t turn it down…

  • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

    And now for something completely superficial, which suits the fearless leader. I found this gem on OTVIIIisGre8!’s blog as I was looking for more information about Freewind’s wrinkles. Here’s Fleet Admiral MissCabin off the bridge, informal and kind of gone to seed (what’s with the stained t-shirt?).

    So informal that he forgot his hair tech! I never really scrutinize men’s hairlines at all so this one kind of caught me by surprise. Why did I assume this little peacock’s pompadour was his?! I’m sure I’m late to the game. http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/dAVE2_zps5644868f.png

    Damn. Who did he send to the Hole over this, the photographer or the hairstylist?

    • SvenBoogie

      Um… you’re joking, right?

      • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

        In what way? No, I didn’t know about his follicular challenges. Like I said, I don’t scrutinize men’s hairlines.

        • SvenBoogie

          In the way that it’s a relatively bad photoshop job…

          • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

            You’re talking to a tech-challenged middle-aged person. Forgive me and I’ll just go away now.

            • SvenBoogie

              No worries, just wanted to make sure you knew it was a fake pic.

            • Joe Hurtado (cs sarabia & all)

              Before I go away with my tail between my legs, please tell me how it’s a fake.

            • SvenBoogie

              Uh, it might be monitor resolution or something, but you can actually clearly see where the skin tone dramatically shifts suddenly and feathers out from being erased and pasted on. There’s also a clear dark line along the left side of DM’s face where it was cropped out of the photo it came from. The lighting is also totally different on the part that’s DM’s copied in face.

            • Artoo45

              Well, dismantled. Plus the donor head is looking straight at the camera, the pasted miscavige is not. It’s quite awful.

            • SvenBoogie

              Yeah I just kind of stopped once I realized I had given plenty of examples. I’m all for mocking DMidget, but it was a sloppy job.

            • Missionary Kid
            • media_lush

              I once did such a good job on a shoop back in PS7 days that a friend I see from time to time is still convinced I’m best friends with Keanu Reeves

            • SvenBoogie

              I’m still on CS4 since I’m too lazy to… uh… acquire… a newer version…

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Awwww :( it happens to the best of us. Don’t feel bad.

          • aegerprimo

            Funny though, DM looking all follicularly challenged.
            (follicularly – is a new word?)

    • Sarah James

      If his head was on backwards, he would have a clear shot-three feet back.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Since when is it necessary for an ‘ecclesiastical’ leader to have expensive, artificially whitened teeth?

    • Missionary Kid
  • Dancing Cranberry

    Calling the Red X Gang!

    Let’s cut off their supply of potential
    victims. Please go to the following link and Red X their ads.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-72#post-2444662

    The Canadian and Dublin ads follow. Please
    give them a swipe as well.

    Doubts mean you have great instincts! The
    truth can tolerate questioning.
    If you want to leave, there is help available
    for you:
    Starting out: how to find your way in Mainstream America http://startingout.icsa.name

    Leaving Scientology http://leavescientology.blogspot.co.uk

    • Pierrot

      FREELOADER Debt is legally UNENFORCEABLE. Call 1-866-XSEAORG
      DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT, Call 1-866-XSEAORG

      ty AP

      • TDA1541A

        lol trolling them with their own imagery

        • Pierrot

          Actually quite a few graphics from Aegerprimo are modified pics from their own ads.
          as is the next one.
          TY AP

          • Pierrot

            and this one

        • aegerprimo

          Helz yeah!

    • aegerprimo

      Hey RED-Xers.. Sorry I am late – can’t predict crazy days. Just finished flagging, now need to read the article. ANYTHING FREEWINDS peaks my interest. I was one of the original Sea Org members aboard the Freewinds who participated with the renovations and refurbishment before it’s maiden voyage in 1988. I was there when the blue asbestos was originally discovered, and then ignored/denied as a problem by Co$ upper management (DM and gang)..

      • aegerprimo

        And for some lulz about a serious situation, here is a funny cat photo-bomb shoop I made a while back for ESMB….

      • Dancing Cranberry

        no worries, aegerprimo. Nice to see you!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Interrupting for a good news news flash straight from Flag: The spaceship is taking off!

    From Black Rob’s infamous thread today. Is the Florida Baker Act still on the books? I don’t want to be driving on the same streets as these aliens from another planet. Seriously. If a traffic cop stopped them and they looked and/or talked like this, they would be Baker Acted in a heartbeat to keep the citizens of this county safe.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/i-have-a-thetan-who-does-things-to-my-mirror-and-its-annoying-what-should-i-do.105033/page-105#post-2444666

  • Artoo45

    Off topic (just can’t bring myself to use OT), but I saw Jamie DeWolf perform for the third time last night. The man is a raging, eloquent, hilarious, pervy, and deeply profane, bard. His stuff about Hubbard is good. His other pieces are simply brilliant and rather disturbing. One rarely sees this level of honesty on stage. It’s like he’s trying to redeem his grandfather, Nibs, by burning the scourge of Hubbard off the face of the earth using words of sheer rage and brutal honesty. People say that Hubbs was “charismatic.” Pfft . . . Jamie would mop the floor with the old man and leave nothing but a small stain. If you get a chance to see him, go, but be forewarned, he’s thrillingly scary at times, and as always, he’s one obscene dog.

    • Baby

      OH I WOULD love to have seen him with you Artoo.. I love his videos..and he will be at Flag Down..

  • Sunny Sands

    Part of the org board video with the marble rolling down a chute reminded me of this: (image refresh)

    • Mark

      Just about everybody I know over a certain age has one of those hidden away somewhere – and not one of us ever played the “proper” game more than once, ’cause it was much more fun to build the blasted mousetrap straight off without mucking about with dice and counters…

      • Jimmy3

        I had it and can’t remember ever actually playing the intended game.

    • GalacticGreg

      This brought to mind how Bob – North x Northwest avi – still-in, characterizes David Miscavige, as the Mouse King.

    • SvenBoogie

      “Mommy, what’s a real mouse trap like?”

      “ummmmmmmmm….”

  • Artoo45

    Some people asked be for a decent audio version of “What’s the Matter With You Hat.” I’ve put it, “Space Station 33″ and some other musical droppings of mine on Sound Cloud . . . http://soundcloud.com/artoo45/whats-the-matter-with-you-hat/s-PGjF6

    • Baby

      Sure you can practice any religion with us .. Good Lord Yes.. Just know one thing..

      There was NO Christ.. NOPE.. but Hallafreakinlula Come on in.. Cash or Credit Card Sucka..

      Artoo..This is the only time I could tolerate Dr. Hubs PhD ( Cough) Thank you.. What’s the Matter With You Hat.. bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwahahah What a Fool!

      • Missionary Kid

        Baby, you just gave lrh a new nickname: Dr. Hubs PhD. I put it on his list.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Isn’t the (Cough) an integral part of that name?
          Better ask Baby

          • Missionary Kid

            It is. I changed it.

        • Baby

          OH Yay.. Winner winner chicken dinner

      • Missionary Kid

        Baby, I edited the entry and added the (Cough) to the nickname.

        • Baby

          Yay …You is da man kid..xo

    • GalacticGreg

      And don’t miss one of the top $cientology Inc. remixes by r2forty-five of the past 4 quadrillion years, Space Station 33. https://soundcloud.com/artoo45/space-station-33

  • http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html trow125

    In case anyone wants to read the real scoop of what it’s like to cruise aboard the Freewinds, head on over to Mike Rinder’s blog and read this post: http://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-sharon-graham/

    “The reges painted the picture of a Freewinds cruise as a wonderful 2 week vacation where one could relax, tour the Caribbean, take Freewinds specific courses and receive auditing in an atmosphere of total safety and comfort. We were suckers for this pitch because the previous year we had taken a Royal Caribbean cruise and loved it. Well, let’s just say that those who sold us on this Freewinds cruise didn’t know what they were talking about or they were intentionally lying their asses off because this cruise was anything but relaxing and/or fun.” It goes on from there. But on the plus side, he does say that the food was good.

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      Jason B said it,”Was a dump!”

  • BeeTee

    Question for the former (or current) Scientologists here: Do members accept Hubbard’s claims to know about things like the org board of an ancient “galactic civilization” as literally true? If not, how are those stories understood?

    • Techie

      Yep it is completely literally understood to be true as stated. The theory is that he lived before this life and recalled this information just as you and I recall the names of our Third Grade teachers. Sometimes he is speaking jocularly or in broad general terms, sometimes exaggerating for effect, so not every word should really be taken literally. But when he makes a simple statement of fact like that it is intended to be thought of as simple fact. The fact that he is obviously making it all up as he goes, like the “good” science fiction write he is, simply goes over the head of the typical Scilon. Truth be told, really good science fiction writers like Larry Niven do a lot of study to make sure their science is at least plausible. Not Ron. Example – the “gypsum” based life form of his Ole Doc Methuselah character’s sidekick. He was possibly trying for silicon based and just forgot… Oddly, even his claim of having “discovered” the Qualifications Division, that was the supposed flaw in the ancient galactic civilizations’ org board, is a false claim. On just a casual search I found Quality Control/Quality Assurance on org charts from 1918, I am sure there are earlier examples.

      • SvenBoogie

        Making it up as he goes was the result of developing his writing process, if you can call it that, after going for pure bulk rather than quality when he was spitting out words for coins.

      • Science Doc

        Gypsum is calcium sulfate hemihydrate. Makes good sheetrock. Life forms not so good.

        • Techie

          Yeah, it’s funny. He was obviously thinking that maybe a life form could be based on some other element than carbon, and came up with a compound instead. Whacky in itself, but then he goes on to write about how this gypsum based creature was fire resistant. Oh well, no point in trying to make sense out of it.

          • Missionary Kid

            Ron the chemist. Just as bogus as all of his other knowledge, like physics, chemistry, biology, math, and anything else you choose to name.

          • GalacticGreg

            But in Hubbardworld, $cilons see it as you said upthread, tEchie – “Yep it is completely literally understood to be true as stated.”

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Marine grade gypsum? heh

            It’s too bad Hubbard didn’t have cable TV. He’d have his own realty show And late night infomercials by now and just steal gullible people’s money without all this OSA OSA OSA, use china slave laborers like everyone else, and sell customers’ credit card numbers to the prisoners’ ID theft network for a tidy profit.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Your last 5 words encapsulate Hubbard’s philosophy.

    • Disaffected

      Totally literal. And besides, there are freight trains running on mars, just so you know. The mars lander just missed it. :)

  • Sunny Sands

    A first-time poster at Clambake named honeywhite has created a font alphabet from the OT3 materials called “Ron’s Font”.

    Now you can write messages in Ron’s own handwriting!

    http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/ron-s-font

    • Jimmy3

      Oh, now this is gonna be fun!

      • Sunny Sands

        ..

        • Guest

          ..

        • Guest

    • Protest Ant

      …so now Miscavige has a way of creating new ‘source’ material. The days of GAT redos are OVER!

      • Nicholas Edward Matavka

        Yeah, but it’ll be filled with “moreovers” and “heretofores”. Miscarriage has a very distinct pattern of writing. Totally different to Ron’s.

    • Snippy_X

      great – but baseline is to consistent and level.

      • Nicholas Edward Matavka

        It’s supposed to be consistent and level. I was actually beating myself up because the vertical position varied too much (look at the d and the y, for example!) Then I figured, hey, this is a HANDWRITING font, it’s not supposed to look perfect.

        • Snippy_X

          I meant, if it is to look like Hubbard’s writing (and reflect the disarray in his brain) the baseline should be erratic. This font is too tidy and disciplined to pass for “Ron’s own handwriting.” Otherwise, it’s a scream. :)

    • Mark

      Oh, my eternal gratitude, Sunny – I’m going to have SOOO much fun with it!

      • Sunny Sands

        Hehe, looking forward to it.

    • Suppressive Meritorius

      OMG… This is going to make the Sunday Funnies the best ever!

      • Suppressive Meritorius

        Ew. His handwriting is really creepy!

    • Nicholas Edward Matavka

      That was me :) I found his hand nice, so decided to immortalise it as a font. Only later did I realise—hey, this is Scientology I can screw with!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology: teaching confronts but really, it’s a con front

  • SvenBoogie

    OT: It seems, going by recent news, that if things collapse for the cult they just have to get a bunch of armed militia members to swing by and they can ignore US laws… =/

  • Missionary Kid

    Refresh to see the list of nicknames for THE $CIENTOLOGY BOAT you can also find them as a sub-list at $CIENTOLOGY STRUCTURES http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1084223013

    • FromPolandWithLove

      How about Fartwinds?

      • Missionary Kid

        Refresh. I put it on.

        • FromPolandWithLove

          :):):)

    • Captain Howdy

      Lying Crutchman

      • Missionary Kid

        I added it.

        • Captain Howdy

          Turditz

          • Missionary Kid

            I’ll post it later.

            • Captain Howdy

              H.M.S Hoodwink

            • Missionary Kid

              Refresh. I put it in.

            • Espiando

              Since it spends most of its time in port, and since I live in the Midwest and am thus surrounded by riverboats, I’m thinking the No Wins Casino would be an appropriate addition to the list.

            • Missionary Kid

              Done. Refresh.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              I thought Asbestos Albatross made the grade this morning?

            • Missionary Kid

              It’s there as “Freewinds: the Asbestos Albatross” Edit: I went back and Capitalized the words.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Need a new prescription for the memory ;)

            • Missionary Kid

              You were looking for a different format. I went back and capitalized Asbestos Albatross.

            • Captain Howdy

              Grazie

            • Missionary Kid

              Prego.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I have also seen “Failwinds.” How about “FleeceWinds.”

      • Missionary Kid

        I’ll put those on.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Favs

      Douche Canoe and SS Mesothelioma

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Here’s another: the USS Indentured Servitude

      • Missionary Kid

        Since it’s not a U.S. Navy ship, which use USS, it’s SS Indentured Servitude

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Oh but that was part of the fun. Fake navy!

          • Missionary Kid

            I understand, but putting it as USS would mean it’s in the real Navy, and being a former Marine, I’m not going to insult the Navy that way by giving it a USS designation.

            Lets work on a name that would show it as fake.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              I get you! I guess SS will do. I think anything else would be too obscure

            • Missionary Kid

              SS Fake Naval Vessel
              SS Fake Navy Ship

            • Missionary Kid

              Refresh, and you’ll see my fake navy names.

    • aegerprimo

      Cancer Boat

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Foul Winds

        • Missionary Kid

          Foul Winds it is. Refresh

          • Panopea Abrupta

            Das Bot
            Das Bait

      • Missionary Kid

        I replied elsewhere. It’s on the list now.

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      No Free Wins
      No FreeWins
      No FreeWin$
      NoFreeWins

      If you think any one of these might be good enough, just pick the version you like best. Feel free to tweak, modify, or change your selection.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’m going to use

        No Free Wins
        No Free Win$
        NoFreeWins
        NoFreeWin$

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  • Mark

    HOORAY! One of the two remaining damnably persistent $ci-ads on UK Craigslist has gone! (see my appeal posted six hours ago). Well done and thanks to all who helped!

    Of course that still leaves one on CL & five on Gumtree to be flagged into well-deserved oblivion:

    http://oxford.craigslist.co.uk
    http://www.gumtree.com/sellera

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Here we go again – Fearless Leader will be hitting the Talisker, not that he needs any excuse..

      Change the Oxford link , Mark – you have to run a search to find the ad

      • Mark

        By the look of him, it’s more likely to be a Buckie & Irn-Bru cocktail ;)

        • Panopea Abrupta

          And a steady diet of deep-fried Mars Bars

          • Mark

            Oh, come now, I’d not go that far – much more likely to be horrid soggy-pastried lukewarm Scotch pies:

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Rebus will collar him, just you watch.
              He’ll be plastered on a few too many pints of 70 shilling.

            • Mark

              The Rab C. Nesbitt of $cientology!

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Never seen it – changed continents by then. Gonna have to hunt it down now.

            • Mark
          • aegerprimo

            Those are popular in my neck of the woods… deep fried Snickers and Milky Way bars. Never tried one.

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Me neither – I was shocked when first I saw that in Edinburgh many moons ago.
              Didn’t realize the Scots had exported the notion.
              Or is it just that deep-fried anything will always find a taker?

    • Pierrot

      my reply to gumtree copied/pasted for all 5 ads:

      Hubbard was married 3x and he pretends to teach us how to have a stable and happy family life. His son Quentin committed suicide because he was gay and that could not be accepted by his father nor his made up “religion” scientology. Google is your friend look up quentin hubbard, check wikipedia.

    • aegerprimo

      Reported those Gumtree ads. Not sure if much help since I am in USA…

  • nottrue

    Come on FBI you got a bigger fish to fry…….Scientology……

    • Jgg2012

      In some ways, it’s hard to tell them apart.

      • Jimmy3

        Herbalife and Scientology or the FBI and Scientology?

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Herbalife is *real* big in Scientology.

          • aegerprimo

            Yes it is.

        • Jgg2012

          Herbalife and Scientology. One is a pyramid scheme making unfounded medical claims, and so is the other.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      A few Scientologists should get caught up in this web. That MLM is real big among cult members.

      • aegerprimo

        Yeah, I remember SEVERAL scientologists trying to make a buck with Herbalife (and Amway) and promoting their vitamins supplements for use for the Purification Rundown and to be “sessionable” – and as a way for a Sciloon trying to get up the Bridge to make some $$ doing it.

    • kemist

      Happy to see them investigating those damn fraudsters. Their asses belong in jail.

      All MLMs should be investigated. Almost all of them have cult-like methods anyway.

      • noseinabk

        I was just checking a new store in my town today. She listed her store as a nutrition center and herself as a nutritionist. After some digging I found out she sells herbalife. I started digging because I drive by her store everyday and had seen an acquaintance patronizing her shop. ( this lady is a lawyer a few doors away) I ran into her at the library and she had bright red pealing skin on her face. I immediately thought she may be getting an od of vitamins. I have known her for 7 years and never seen this problem. She is slim and healthy so I can not fathom why she would go to this store every morning to get a “health shake”.
        My adult daughter fell for the same kind of scam with the juice plus nuts. I was furious when her friend was handing out samples at my daughters wedding shower. Come to find out, her friend was distributing them after being sold into it by her chiropractor.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for Apr. 12: *refresh for images*

    There were no new numbers to post the last days. Alexa problems again, I guess.

    Tony: US rank #21,481 – down 881 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 16,978)
    Scientology: US rank #59,292 – up 4,674 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 44,614)

    Difference: 37,811 – 5,555 less than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 27,635)

    Clicks from India – 13,2% today.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      It is nice to see the transfer of monies from $cilon whales to the needy in India.
      Thank you, Johnny.

    • Disaffected

      Thanks Johnny Tank. Lol, those Indians are getting lazy. Only 13,2% today? (btw, I wonder if there is any child labor involved here. I bet Mismanage don’t want to pay too many $$). In any case, their graph is so jagged and pathetic really.

    • Sarah James

      Someone said Kirstie Alley only got 34 votes in favor of another season of her show. Wonder why David Miscavige did not help her out with his ” India voters?” Guess the “help” like the money collected only flows one direction. Toward the tiny niblet. He will tell her she pulled it in, no doubt. Sad, that will add another 20lbs.

  • Sandy

    ..

    • Sandy

      That was a post about college hockey. Totally inappropriate. sorry

      • Robert Eckert

        We don’t have to stay on-topic all the time, particularly in the slow hours.

        • Sandy

          Jimmy & Robert. Thx. was just sayin’ MN is in the NCAA hockey finals on ESPN. 4 to 3 Union. Go Gophers.

          • Captain Howdy

            Go Minnesota!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Go where?
              Lol!

          • Jimmy3

            Sorry :// That looked a lot like a comeback, right up until the rapid momentum shift. The game was much closer than the final score.

            • Robert Eckert

              Best comment I found (from a disappointed Gopher fan obviously): “I’m going to burn this couch anyway.”

            • Jimmy3

              That made me laugh before it made me sads. Isn’t that a Michigan State / Ohio State Big Ten championship reference? http://deadspin.com/east-lansing-police-want-to-find-burn-the-couch-guy-o-1480132178

            • Robert Eckert

              For a little while we were looking for a Michigan / Michigan State finals in basketball, but it was not to be.

      • Jimmy3

        Robert is right, if you want to comment on the NCAA hockey final, just gopher it.

  • Disaffected

    BS organizing board for a BS subject. The hubs talking about galactic civilizations, was really those pink n greys.

  • Dancing Cranberry

    This cult has to implode at some point. You can help the process along by taking down their ads. Let’s cut off their supply of ‘fresh meat’.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-72#post-2444662

    The Canadian and Dublin ads follow. Please 
give them a swipe as well.

    Doubts mean you have great instincts! The
 truth can tolerate questioning. 
If you want to leave, there is
    help available
 for you:


    Starting out: how to find your way in Mainstream America: http://startingout.icsa.name

    Leaving Scientology: http://leavescientology.blogspot.co.uk

    FREELOADER Debt is legally UNENFORCEABLE. Call 1-866-XSEAORG
DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT, Call 1-866-XSEAORG.

    Thanks!

    • aegerprimo

      Thank you everyone for help to do this….

    • Graham

      Done!

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  • Anonymous Confused Person

    Ugh. How much did they pay for those blue mooring lines?

    • aegerprimo

      UGH!

  • Anonymous Confused Person

    Org chart comment: “…It’s dreamed up with malice aforethought…” Did I just hear a touch of actual, honest-to-goodness honesty from LRH?

  • Panopea Abrupta

    LRH: the mad hatter

  • Captain Howdy

    Just discovered this on youtube.
    Shannon and the Clams
    “The Cult Song”

    Sick of the dancing sick of the chanting
    I don’t wanna be in your cult no more
    Sick of the nikes sick of the kool-aid
    I don’t wanna be in your cult no more
    Sick of moroni sick of nephi

    I don’t wanna be in your cult no more

    Oooga boooga oooga boooga oooga boooga baby

    We are not under mind control,
    We are not under mind control

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTJwnzBvz2Y

    • Sarah James

      Did Bill Robertson do a cover?

      • Captain Howdy

        This is the coolest thing I’ve heard in a while and of course they’re from the Bay Area.

    • Jimmy3

      As anyone could guess from the lyrics, she was a Mormon. Wondering where “& the Clams” comes from? It sounds familiar! But it’s actually a good song with an older sound to it.

      • Captain Howdy

        “But it’s actually a good song with an older sound to it.”

        Yea, it’s almost as good as this one.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHePfdS0I4Q

        • Jimmy3

          Older sound is not bad sound or unoriginal sound. It’s just not modern sound, which is mostly bad sound.

          And damn, you sure like shrunken heads.

          • Captain Howdy

            That’s me singing. Jimmy.

            • Jimmy3

              No shit? Haha

            • Captain Howdy

              It was my second band from 81 to 83

            • Jimmy3

              What were you in after that? I had no idea you recorded music

            • Captain Howdy

              I was in 2 bands after that, The Psychic Orphans and the Scavengers. We did some shows with Faith No More and blew them off the stage, at least according to the critics.

            • Jimmy3

              And I said “Haha” mostly because I was surprised and a little bit because I thought you might be screwing with me.

          • noseinabk

            I was just enjoying a nostalgic older sound moment when I came across this comment. Howdy would probably puke if he knew that it was a Billy Squire, Crack The Sky, Face Dancer, Rush binge. Some of those I laugh at now and some I still love.

        • Jo
  • aegerprimo

    Mark Bunker, thank you for putting this video on YouTube. The crimes of the Co$ started before the Freewinds was purchased. I think it was known somehow that it was a crap deal… the ship was old, and dangerous, but maybe the price was cheap? Just like the real estate the Co$ purchases… The Co$ lied to contractors from the beginning. Tony’s headline today does not surprise me, Scientology’s ship – Lawsuit – Human Slavery

    http://youtu.be/5QSfp_DyL_E

    • Troy MacGyver SP

      i miss seeing,Stacy!

    • Missionary Kid

      The crimes of $cientology started with Hubbard soon after he wrote Dianetics.

  • aegerprimo

    Just sayin…

    • SvenBoogie

      Obviously the boat just needs to smoke more.

      • aegerprimo

        Kool!
        ROFL!

        • SvenBoogie

          Follow tubby’s health advice and you’ll soon be ROFD.

          • aegerprimo

            True!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            Fun fact. I was talking with a Scientologist once and they told me that cigarettes on the whole track were used to protect from radiation on a planet that had been destroyed by nuclear weapons.

            Years later I watched the movie “Screamers” where they were walking through a desolate radioactive landscape. Smoking red cigarettes. To protect them from radiation.

            • aegerprimo

              Ha ha, I was told that smoking cigarettes was a dramatization of volcanoes.
              Maybe MK needs to start a list of “What Scientology calls Smoking Cigarettes”

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              A continuation of the video “Shit Scientologists Say” is in order!

            • aegerprimo

              Tiziano Lugli … take note!

            • TDA1541A

              Who was the director of that ?

              and fucking lol

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114367/ Director: Christian Duguay, Based on a short story from writer: Philip K. Dick

              http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1069696-screamers/

              Here’s the entire movie for you if you want to watch it:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjN0HYvd5E0

            • TDA1541A

              Thanks bro. I have seen it several times. Entertaining movie.

    • Missionary Kid

      Cancer Boat is now on the list.

      • SvenBoogie

        “The Freewinds” is an anagram for, among other things…

        “Find The Sewer” =P

        • Missionary Kid

          That is excellent. I’ll put it as,

          Find The Sewer (anagram for The Freewinds)

  • SvenBoogie

    LOL I was just watching ‘the shrinking world of l ron hubbard’ again in my search for parody material, I had forgotten how utterly perfect the snark was in this. The video pauses and comments made by the narrator are seriously priceless.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Hey… cyclone Ita is coming to visit us tomorrow morning.

    • jeff

      Batten down the hatches!

      • EnthralledObserver

        Just going to go get milk, bread and whatever else the panic buyers have left at the shops first, but it’s only cat 1 atm… not staying if it intensifies to a high level… my house will probably not survive. :)

        • jeff

          Oh, I thought at one point they said it was a Cat 4. I went to see Oculus, yesterday, starring the Cairns born actor Brenton Thwaites. He is also set to star in the Katie Holmes/Jeff Bridges/Meryl Streep picture, The Giver. Apparently, he used to be on the Aussie soap, Home and Away. I hope it doesn’t re-intensify.

          Edit: The only time I’ve been to Queensland, it was to Cairns, where I went out to the Great Barrier Reef.

          • EnthralledObserver

            It actually peaked at cat 5 a few days ago… but not for long. It crossed the coast up north as cat 4, but now it’s just tracking down the coast at cat 1. There doesn’t seem much likelihood that it’s going to re-intensify at this stage. But we shall be vigilant and make sure we have enough milk for coffee ;)

            • Missionary Kid

              Cyclones/Hurricanes lose power once they’re over land. The engine that drives them is warm ocean water.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Yeah normally that’s the pattern… this one is headed back out to sea now, and is predicted to be downgraded to a tropical low by tomorrow night, but you just never know with these things.

            • Missionary Kid

              If it ends up over cooler water, it will also lose power. Warmer water is what causes the evaporation that leads to the air becoming saturated with water and becoming unstable, producing thunderstorms and giving cyclones their power.

              Usually, as they move away from the equator, they lose power, but unusually warm water can cause them to stay strong. Warmer than usual water is what fueled Hurricane Sandy that hit New York. Cool water would have diminished its power.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Shall I pop down to the beach and dip my toe in the water to test it? :p

            • Missionary Kid

              If your toe has a temperature read out. ;-)

            • EnthralledObserver

              Estimates not useful? ;)

            • Missionary Kid

              Not if you want to know what the weather is going to do.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I don’t know who Brenton is… I don’t follow Home and Away. Great that he seems to have picked up such good gigs though. Cool!

        • noseinabk

          Nice to know that panic buying is not exclusive to american states. Bread, milk, toilet paper, and water get huge sales. I always wonder why people do not have these things already. Having well water is my biggest worry. When power goes, no water at all.
          Stay safe E.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Our problem is that when the river goes over in the city near us then no traffic can get north at all (usually if our river goes over, then all the inland ones have already gone over too, so there is no other route) so no new deliveries of milk, flour for bread companies, other groceries.. so if that stays up for too long we literally run out. So on one hand I don’t blame people ‘stocking up’, so long as they aren’t ridiculous and there is enough for everyone to stock up for a few days. In previous times they’ve brought stocks in via barge, but it’s never enough and has to be rationed… but rationing one 3 litre milk for a couple will last them a week or so… me, with five kids… lucky to last one day.

            • noseinabk

              5 kids?I will shut up now. During school closings, my kids eat me out of house and home.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Be safe!

  • Tory Christman

    Marc Headley–you never cease to amaze me: what a memory! Hey! You should write a book. Oh that’s
    right: YOU DID! If anyone here has not read his book, I *highly* recommend getting it. It’s super informative,
    and very funny, too. Great stories! Thanks for the article, Tony! The Freewinds has many bad, bad stories.

  • Pierrot

    How about some whacking while we wait for the funnies.
    Join the RED X team and flag co$ ads on craigslist.
    No commitment, no travelling, no donation, only time.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-72#post-2444661

    The new Canadian & Dublin list follows the daily USA list

    Your doubts are VALID. Call 1-866-XSEAORG
    FREELOADER Debt is legally UNENFORCEABLE. Call 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty AP

  • TDA1541A
  • dagobarbz

    Any news about the Polish workers the cult screwed over?