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Is Ukraine’s proposed new prime minister a Scientologist? Says his niece: ‘That’s crap’

Arseniy Yatsenyuk

Arseniy Yatsenyuk

Yesterday evening, Arseniy Yatsenyuk was nominated to be Ukraine’s new prime minister in the wake of President Viktor Yanukovych’s ouster.

Yatsenyuk is a former speaker of parliament and foreign minister, and led one of the factions of the opposition movement.

However, last week, when it looked like Yatsenyuk was likely to end up in a leading position after the country’s upheaval, rumors began flying that he was involved with Scientology — rumors that have been around for at least four years. One conservative blogger in Dallas even suggested recently that Yatsenyuk was some sort of mole for both Scientology and billionaire financier George Soros.

We had serious doubts about that story, which was thin on details. For its allegation about Scientology, it pointed to Yatsenyuk’s Wikipedia entry, which claimed that Yatsenyuk, 40, was primarily involved in Scientology through his sister Alina Steel, 47, who lives in Santa Barbara and was supposedly an auditor and heavily into the church. But shortly after the Dallas story appeared, that allegation was scrubbed from the Wikipedia entry in English (the assertion still exists in Wikipedia’s Russian-language version).

Last night, we reached Alina Steel’s daughter, Ulyana Biloskurska, 26, who assured us that the rumors about the family’s Scientology involvement were completely untrue.

“That’s crap,” she said. “We don’t even know what Scientology is.”

Ulyana, who lives in California, said she had heard the allegation about her mother and uncle, and assured us that neither of them have any involvement in Scientology.

“We read about the rumor, but there’s no truth to it,” she says. “The only thing I know about Scientology is that Tom Cruise is in it.”

 
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LeahBuzzfeedLeah Remini’s odd Buzzfeed interview

In a two-hour interview with Buzzfeed’s Jarett Wieselman, Leah Remini somehow managed to avoid most of the controversial things she experienced in Scientology.

Wieselman credited the New York Post for breaking the news of Leah’s defection from Scientology on July 11, but of course it was the Underground Bunker that broke that news three days earlier, on July 8. And it was that story, and a subsequent followup interview with her sister, Nicole, that laid out the saga of Leah’s troubles with Scientology, which began at the 2006 wedding of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes when Leah first questioned the disappearance of David Miscavige’s wife, Shelly. For daring to raise questions about that, Leah was summoned to Clearwater, Florida, where she was put through three months of “sec checks” and the “Truth Rundown” until she agreed to rescind a report she had made about Miscavige’s behavior at the wedding — and she was billed $300,000 for her trouble.

In the years afterwards, Leah increasingly ran into trouble with Scientology’s “ethics” officers as she continued to press for answers about Shelly, culminating with her October 2012 meeting with David Miscavige after she threatened to go to the FBI.

Like many other people who have left Scientology in recent years, Leah was fed up with Miscavige and the direction Scientology was going in. She was angry, and after she came out, she even called up the LAPD to report Miscavige’s wife missing. (We broke that story too.)

In recent months, however, Leah has tended to downplay the Scientology specifics of her story, and although she gave Buzzfeed some great new insights about her childhood in the church, the entire episode about the Cruise wedding and her feuding with David Miscavige was missing from the piece. The result is an odd combination — long sections with great detail about her time in Hollywood, but very little specific about Scientology and how it works.

 
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More Scientology panic over a Pacific storm

Scientology went into full panic mode yesterday as its last-minute plans for building re-dedications in Los Angeles turned out to be badly timed.

We told you yesterday that the threat of a storm of historic proportions had convinced church planners to move their parties back a couple of days. Then yesterday we were smuggled panicky messages saying that the ceremonies had been moved back, storm be damned. But by the end of the day, the move forward was back on as it became obvious it was not smart to compete with a deluge of rain.

So, now, the latest information we have is that the ceremony for the American Saint Hill Organization (ASHO) and the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles (AOLA), both parts of the “Big Blue” complex on Fountain Avenue, will happen on Sunday March 2 at noon.

The next day, on Monday March 3, the Scientology Test Center — redubbed the Scientology Life Improvement Center — will get its dedication at 5:30 pm. That building is on Hollywood Boulevard just a block east of Hollywood & Highland, where the Academy Awards event is happening Sunday night.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on February 27, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Toni m

    scio is desperate. They are not thinking straight anymore. Tic. toc tic toc Like Dear Tory says.
    About the You Tube news.

  • Frodis73

    After many days of binge reading various sites I’m hoping you guys can clear something up for me. Am I right that Mike doesn’t believe in lrh’s “teachings” anymore or not? Where does Marty stand these days? I was under the impression he was an indie & was auditing folks…is this true? I’m really hoping he has come around to seeing that it’s not just a DM problem.
    You guys were kicking ass & taking names in the comment sections btw!

    • aquaclara

      Someone else could give you a better answer, but from what I can see, both are coming into the real world quite well. And both have followers that don’t necessarily come here. That’s very good for the combined efforts to take down this cult.

      I think we have more that unites us than divides us. And I know the healing process can take a considerable amount of time for some.

      • Frodis73

        I agree 100% about uniting. I also think for ppl who have just left both sites are great for ppl to decompress & try to make a soft landing so to speak. I can’t imagine how hard it is to have your whole world turned inside out like that…esp those born into it. Thx!

      • Rudabaga

        I agree. Both Mike and Marty’s sites are great for people coming out of Scientology and landing in a place where they will be understood. I was never in so this site feels more like my home and I read it every day, although I comment very rarely. But seems to me people have a hard time fully letting go and this process is a hard one so soft landings are a good thing.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Marty still believes in some of Hubbard’s principles, but he has disavowed the “Scientologist” label.

      http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/ripple-in-still-water/

      Unsure if Mike Rinder still considers himself a Scientologist at this point.

      • Frodis73

        TY very much for the link!

    • Ruby

      I think both of these gentlemen are just about wanting to know the truth…and both of them are seeing that some of what Hubbard “taught” has some truths there, whether he was the author of them or whether he learned them from someone else. There is always value in learning about wise truths of this world.
      They are also, as we all are, seeing and sorting out the lies that are a part of Hubbard’s world.
      Both are going thru the journey of sorting this out and ARE aware that DM was not the only problem.

    • Verve

      The best way to get an answer to these questions is just to email/message them directly.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        Or just read his blog!

    • OrangySky

      IMHO, Mike still believes….in some of the ‘tech.’ I think he’s clearly become disillusioned with Hubbard (though not all the way). Like every ex, he is evolving. I don’t think we’ll know how far until after DM is shut down and the dust is cleared, because his blog is a soft landing place for people just leaving the church, and people who are “under the radar” getting their courage up to leave. Therefore, to accomplish his mission (help free as many people from the bonds of church slavery as possible by getting the word out on what’s really going on behind the scenes,) he needs to remain an “Indie,’ even if it’s in name only.
      Marty has said in more than one interview that he doesn’t consider himself a Scientologist anymore, although he still speaks for Indies. So who knows. But he’s come a very long way and has said on numerous occasions that he believes the problems in Scientology originated with LRH. In fact, recently he wrote a very intelligent blog about how LRH screwed up by not listening to trusted critics as early as 1950. The stuff that “worked” about Dianetics COULD have been made more viable if it had been given into the hands of real scientists who could do some real empirical testing on it. But LRH wasn’t in it for the ‘science’, or to help people. He was in it for the copyright and the profits – and that was clear early on.
      IMHO both Marty and Mike have yet to sit down and read some of the horror stories of some of the ESMB folk who were with LRH at his worst, not have they really accepted how well sourced Barefaced Messiah and other Hubbard-critical works are. But they are no longer letting blind LRH worship go unchallenged on their blogs, when commenters whitewash something egregious that LRH did.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        I’ve been saying the same shit for months and just get raked over the coals.

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          Marty was a evil son of a bitch. I hope Mosey takes the money and runs!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Calling all Red-X ers

    Go flag these babies.

    End the clam-scam spam on Craigslist.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-56#post-2426554

    • Dancing Cranberry

      for safety

    • Dancing Cranberry

      done.

    • Toni m

      I looked for blues only. Found only one. No blues anymore.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        yeah

        • Toni m

          Notice we put down one in Tampa.

    • Pierrot

      Thank you for jumping in

      • Panopea Abrupta

        You are most welcome.
        Ca me fait plaisir.

  • Toni m

    If I could talk with Mrs Remini I will tell her. The cult is very mad with you, they may do what they always do. Open the confidential folders of you and your family. I don’t care, we don’t care what it may be in this folders. We just want for you and your family and for everybody else that leave scientology to be o.k. Keep fighting for your daughter, keep your head high, be happy, keep your family together, do not let them steal more time from your life. Ignore them.
    But if they come with dirty games, like they did with the Rathburs, denounce them, they have no right to make your life and the life of your family miserable.
    Wish the best for you and your family.

    • PowerWog

      If I’m correct she is Catholic now? That could be a violation of her first amendment rights if they are attacking her.

      • Toni m

        The are evil. They don’t care about laws, morality, what is right, dm only follows his evil mind.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        The First Amendment prevents the U.S. Government from restricting the religious freedoms of U.S. Citizens. It doesn’t make it illegal for organizations or individuals to do anything.

        • Power Wog

          Bah Humbug!

  • media_lush

    quick question…. how old are American first graders?

    • OrangySky

      6, usually.

  • media_lush

    I am sure scientology is behind this sign

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Looks more like the work of a right-wing Christian fundamentalist church.

      • media_lush

        … or Travolta is kind enough to start warning people nowadays… (that’s weak, ed)

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          That is pretty weak, up vote for honesty.

  • media_lush

    someone should call this the Scientology Jellyfish

  • Sunny Sands

    Re: Scientology’s takeover of the Youtube home page. I read a 3 year old article that says YT charges $375,000 for their 24-hour home page ad.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Calling the whales, Davey?
      Or are they drying up ?

    • DodoTheLaser

      And that’s what $375,000 of IAS donations buy:

  • DodoTheLaser

    I like Leah and her real friends!

    • Power Wog

      Buddha from the Block : ) (Courtesy Radar Online)

  • Great White Clam

    Youtube is the very last place in this sector of the universe the clams should want ‘fresh meat’ (AKA ‘marks’) becoming curious about $cientology. How could this have been, even for one instant, thought good for clam PR in any way, shape or form?

    Oh.
    Maybe it went like this:

    “What is the biggest venue for advertising to the high tech wog world?”
    “Sir. Youtube, sir.”
    “I want to run our next advert in the biggest slot they got.”
    “Sir. Sir…”
    Did I hear you correctly?” Did you just question me? YCICS!”
    “Sir. No sir. Sir, Youtube is…”
    RPF!

    Rinse and repeat, until finally a proper yes-minion gives the “correct” response.

    • Power Wog

      Sir, it appears our options are very limited. (Slap!)..Wait I just got a picture Sir…youtube??

    • Power Wog

      Sounds like they are also applying a danger condition or is it emergency condition or is it lame condition??? I can never remember….

  • Lurkness

    Help clear LA and flag these ads (at least the first nine that were recently posted). These ads didnt make the earlier red X club lists.

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?zoomToPosting=&catAbb=eee&=eee&query=8200&excats=

    • Power Wog

      Done.

      • Lurkness

        Thanks!

  • Kerf

    Hi! I’m a loooooong time–yet somewhat infrequent– lurker. I’m coming out of Lurkerton to ask a question that has been bugging me for aeons: I’ve heard over and over, in various ads, mag articles, spokesheads, etc. that Scientology helps people. It was practically the only coherent sentence that TC uttered in that odd video: “We’re here to help,” yet there is no elaboration for this ambiguous claim. Exactly what do they mean? How are they here to “help, helping, help people, yadda blah?” As seen with the controversies surrounding Narconon, the CoS distances itself in affiliation with their own social programs. Not that these programs are any good, but they ARE the only things about this organization that have any association with it being an “altruistic” religion. (Although, TC certainly laid bare CoS’ claims to Narconon, Criminon, etc. which I think is one of the true reasons they didn’t want that vid out there.)

    So, again, my deepest apologies for the off-topic wall of text, but…

    Can someone please explain what it is they claim to “help?”

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      They make lots of claims, but they are best at helping to separate suckers from their money.

    • Power Wog

      Kerf Go to Youtube and type in Jason Beghe and or Tory Magoo 44. You will get a lot of questions answered

      • DodoTheLaser

        ^^^ Great advice!

      • Power Wog

        It’s a VERY lengthy topic.

      • Kerf

        Thank you for replying! I feel terrible about hijacking this thread, so I really appreciate your patience.
        I used to lurk on ars, so I’m very familiar with Tory/Magoo and her fascinating story. I also watched Jason Beghe’s defection and cheered silently from behind my screen. 😉
        However, I can understand how a Scien course may help someone with communication skills, but I truly don’t see how that is enough to engender such enthusiastic claims like, “We’re here to HELP! Yay!” Especially when I see something like, again, the TC vid where the man can barely form a coherent sentence. Also, DM and his speeches! Yikes! The verbose hyperbole that conveys a lot of nothing belies the claims that their courses can help someone communicate effectively.
        Whenever I read testimonies of all these wonderful and eager people who joined this farce because they were told (as individuals) that they were going to help people, I just wonder what it is that they were told they were going to help them with, and how they would do it. Build clean water systems? Feed the hungry? Educate under-privileged children?

        • Power Wog

          Don’t feel bad. I was a lurker for many months until yesterday actually. I think watching the videos are a great starting point too. Basically you get auditing services (counseling sessions) so an individual can go Clear which is getting rid of your reactive mind or negative emotions. It helps a person to become more sane-thats what they claim to help with. Then you have the higher levels, and Tory gives example of an OT VII auditing session in her videos as well. Tory Magoo is very friendly. You can watch the LA conferences too where other Sea Org members share their experience.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwD0bHPYbq8

          • Kerf

            “More sane.” That line cracks me up! Tory seems like such a sweetheart of a person. She’s so vibrant and upbeat. I do like to watch the YouTube vids–I’ve learned so much over the years since I first heard of CoS in ’92 or ’93. The annoying thing now is having to watch 5 seconds of those CoS ads before I can hit SKIP!

            • Kerf

              So, really all they’re saying, all I’ve heard about “helping” all these years is that they are going to rid the planet of its reactive mind and we’ll all be part of the collective. That’s it? THAT’S how they get people to join SO, empty their bank accounts, and sign over their children? No practical, real-life charitable measures are promised when these they recruit folks to help others? I’d at least want to donate canned food or clothing or build a family a house or something.

            • DodoTheLaser

              No trap would work without a cheese in it. Ever been a scientologist?

            • Kerf

              No, I’m a “never-in.” I’ve never met one either. Which from my POV gives the lie to their claims of “millions of members.” The closest I’ve ever come to Scientology irl is to find some old Hubbard books–including Dianetics– in an antique store years ago.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Thank you for your reply/s, Kerf. I hope you will find what you are looking for.
              Even if it’s a learning experience. Or especially so. Welcome to The Bunker.

            • Kerf

              Thanks!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Welcome! Wish you new friends.

            • valshifter

              even if they are scientologist they dont say, is very controversial and now days almost embarrasing saying you are a scientologist. is not something you are proud of, deep inside they know they been bamboozled so no, you will not hear anybody say proudly am a scientologist and I belive in xenu and my church is very litigious in courts all over the world.

            • Kerf

              “…embarrasing saying you are a scientologist.”

              Apparently, the “privilege” of this shame must be “earned.” LOL

              But seriously, I don’t have a problem with people believing in whatever they want to believe in. I try to differentiate between the belief of the individual and the practices of the “church.” Sometimes the lines are blurred or not present at all. I do have problems with the beliefs they have that inflict suffering on others, however. For example, the belief that children are just thetans in little bodies lends itself to child abuse in many forms. I just cannot fathom enduring all that Sciens endure, only to become fearful and embarrassed.

            • aquaclara

              This is a great thread on “help”. You won’t find the traditional meaning in Scientology, though. They use “betterment” or “social betterment” to refer to handing out useless Way to Happiness books after a disaster, or providing “touch assists” in lieu of real medical care. Again, useless.

              Wise members are given “help” through high-pressure sales tactics that they can use on their customers so they make more money. Plus a cut of Scientology sales they refer, in a multi-level marketing scheme kind of way.

              Help for the individual member is dished up in ways like others have described here. They find your weakness and hone in. So “help” is not deep, nor meaningful, but more a way to get into the wallets and minds to exploit vulnerabilities.

            • OrangySky

              Again, the Hubs claimed ridding the planet of its ‘reactive’ mind will end wars and poverty and disease etc etc. It’s a totalist, dytopian vision of the world, disguised as a utopian one.

            • Power Wog

              Kerf during the Sea Org recruitment process they show you videos on the “very calculated” plan to take over the world. They mention the New world order, the federal banking system….a bunch of hogwash conspiracy stuff you can download from the internet. Anyways they use it as part of their recruitment process to make new recruits actually think they are really helping mankind against these so called Sp’s…I’m sure there are a group of people who are part of the federal reserve with bad intentions however it has nothing to do with scientology.

            • Sandy

              I, personally, can’t help, cuz I am practically computer illiterate. But, Cap’t Howdy gave me instructions on how to turn those annoying ads off. I no longer have to see them …

        • doggywoggy

          As far as I as a never-in can understand, they first promise
          to help people with their personal problems. And just confiding in another
          person can make them feel better (little do they know that their personal information
          may be used to blackmail them in the future).

          Then the repetitive auditing and training routines regularly
          put people into a light trance state, and apparently that feels good too, but it
          also makes them more suggestible.

          After a period of indoctrination, people are promised an “eternity,”
          if they toe the line. I have been thinking about this lately, and have
          concluded that it is the biggest attraction for people: that they will come
          back lifetime after lifetime (reincarnation). It eliminates the existential
          fear of death. But it’s also the biggest phobia Scientology implants, because watch
          out, if you think even one negative thought about lrh you will come back as a
          rock or something.

          And of course there is the fake help that they offer through
          their volunteer missionaries, narCONon, etc., which are just fronts designed to
          rope people into scientology. But since scientologists are so compartmentalized,
          those with no direct experience of these fronts are told, and believe, that they
          are doing good in the world.

          • DodoTheLaser

            “But since scientologists are so compartmentalized, those with no direct experience of these fronts are told, and believe, that they are doing good in the world.”

            Sums it up well.

          • Kerf

            Thank you! That’s a great explanation! I never thought about the reincarnation being such an incentive, but I see what you mean. I know about all this that you’ve discussed, but I can see now how it all falls together very quickly. I know for a fact that mind control doesn’t require much time to accomplish, but I still have difficulty believing how fast everything can go awry.
            As for myself, I think I would always question, “How am I helping someone else by doing this?” But I guess once one is “in,” then the broader picture shrinks to the myopic, schizophrenic, narcissistic thing that is the CoS.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Not only would you come to believe you’re helping yourself, you would believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only are your helping someone else, you are helping the entire planet, and everyone in ‘this sector of the gal-AX-y.

              You would consider yourself the opposite of myopic. You’d be considering yourself cosmic, helping trillions of beings in the Milky Way.

              Go figure!

            • OrangySky

              Many of the exes here (and you’ll find far more of them on ESMB) who came into the cult in the ’60’s and ’70’s were driven forward by the powerful winds of the counterculture. They had minds wide open to new ideas and truly believed Hubbard had the key to ‘saving the planet’ (by taking away the ‘reactive’ mind and replacing it with pure reason and sanity). Hubbard preyed mercilessly on the altruism of the Boomer generation. Once they bought into that concept of “clearing the planet” as a solution to war, poverty, etc – and once the TR’s and cultic social pressures had rendered them completely obedient to Hubbard’s directives, then he could control everything they did while keeping them committed due to their desire to “help.” (A caveat – a desire to “help” can come from true caring and altruism à la Mother Theresa, or from disguised narcissism such as Tom Cruise supporting Narconon – but it still is a legit desire, because helping others takes us out of our own egos for a time and makes us feel good about ourselves afterward. Via a ‘purpose-driven’ life.

        • OrangySky

          Another great Frank Luntz quote – appeal to emotions, not intellect:

          “Eighty percent of our life is emotion, and only 20 percent is intellect. I am much more interested in how you feel than how you think. I can change how you think, but how you feel is something deeper and stronger, and it’s something that’s inside you.”

          (LRH was able to fool people into thinking he was appealing to their intellect! Quite a trick!)

    • Missionary Kid

      Everyone has desires, wants, or needs that they feel are unfulfilled. $cientology first tries to detect what it is that a person wants or feels they need, then they promise to “help” them do better.

      By keeping the term “help” vague, they can use it to keep a person curious until they have reconditioned them to accept the $cientology way of thinking. It is a subtle trap that is a part of the web of deceit they construct.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yep. “Help” and “Control” were Hubbard’s favorite “buttons”. Sinister.

        • Kerf

          It is sinister. You’d think that the first clue is inventing new language and twisting the definitions of common words. (I’m really interested in the use of language as a control mechanism. 😉

          • Power Wog

            Kerf-Steve Hassan talks about that in his book Freedom of Mind. He was in the Moonies cult for many years as well. He was a higher upper I guess in that group I’ll post the link

            http://freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php

            • Kerf

              Thanks for the link. That’s an excellent article, because some things on the list are quite obvious for people to look out for, while other methods are more subtly insidious.

            • Power Wog

              That article was the main reason I made my decision to really be an ex-scio. I was indecisive for months. Another good book and article is the one on Jon Atack who worked directly with LRH. Now if you read that you will learn how scientology was born and why it was a scam from the beginning. He goes into the psychology and actual mind control techniques of scientology. I believe there is an article on the Bunker here somewhere but heres the link to the book first

              http://www.amazon.com/Lets-sell-these-people-Piece/dp/1482023032/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393584461&sr=8-1&keywords=a+piece+of+blue+sky

            • Kerf

              First book I ever read on the subject!

            • DodoTheLaser

              So you didn’t read Dianetics that you found in that antique store years ago?

            • Kerf

              No. I was already knowledgable about the cult by then and just laughed at how much dust it had gathered.

            • aquaclara

              Welcome to the real world, PW! Sending good wishes your way.

            • Power Wog

              Thanks!

            • Power Wog
            • doggywoggy

              If you read Robert J. Lifton’s book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism he talks about “loading the language,” as a means to control people. Hubbard was really aware of this method.

            • Kerf

              “Loading the language.” Can you tell me a little more of what he meant by that?

            • doggywoggy

              He outlines his criteria for thought reform about 5min. into this video:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDoPD5GeCE

            • OrangySky

              Every hear of (former) conservative propagandist Frank Lutz – who created the newspeak of the ultra-right, and then ‘retired’ in great regret (partly for what he’d unleashed)?

              “Words can sometimes be used to confuse, but it’s up to the practitioners of the study of language to apply them for good and not for evil. It is just like fire; fire can heat your house or burn it down.”

              http://usapolitics.thoughts.com/posts/frank-luntz-gives-up-political-propaganda-making

            • Kerf

              Yes, I have. His applications are some of the reasons why I became fascinated with language and it’s use in manipulation and control; invention of new vocabularies, etc.
              Edit for clarity.

    • valshifter

      The Help button is used as PR to appear noble, but in reality they only help themselves to your money, your will power, your energy to work, using you as a workforce, etc etc, the only beneficiaries are themselves, they really never help society in general, everything in scientology is a LIE is the reverse of what they claim.

  • DodoTheLaser

    That scientology youtube shindig seems to be really working and helping others:
    https://twitter.com/search?q=scientology%20ad%20youtube&src=typd

    • Power Wog

      Thats awesome

    • aquaclara

      Tanks for the cheer this morning, Dodo! Hope things are good with you today!

    • OrangySky

      Niceeeeeeeee!

  • DodoTheLaser

    My fave:

  • valshifter

    I just saw this on a craighlist ad;
    Do you trust the wrong people? (Houston tx) Knowing who you can trust is vital and can help sort out situations as well as prevent future complications. Take this Scientology Life Improvement Course
    the answer to that wuestion is : YES THE SCIENTOLOGIST.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Scientology is so fond of declaring and labeling its former and current members as Suppressives,
    it became a Suppressive group itself. And the world is watching and taking notes. And writing books.

    • Jgg2012

      Yes, it cranks out suppressives the way MIT cranks out engineers. What does that say about Scientology?

  • Pierrot
    • Pierrot

      I forgot to thank aegerprimo for the graphics lifted from co$ ads on CL.

  • BosonStark

    Us Weekly gets this official response to the BuzzFeed Leah Remini story:

    “It comes as no surprise that someone as self-absorbed as Leah Remini
    with an insatiable craving for attention would exploit her former faith
    as a publicity stunt by rewriting her history with it, including
    omitting that she was participating in a program to remain a
    Scientologist by her own choice, as she was on the verge of being
    expelled for her ethical lapses,”

    Yeah, well, she realized she was spending too much time participating in a program to remain a brainwashed loon. Fixed it for you, Scientology.

    Scientology would never participate in publicity by rewriting the history of a person, like Dr. Hubtard. Instead, they publish an entire nutterpedia about the fool!

  • Adrien Marcel Drea

    HORSECRAP CAN BE BULLSHIT TOO…