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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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LEAH REMINI FILES MISSING-PERSON REPORT ON SCIENTOLOGY LEADER’S WIFE

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[Shelly Miscavige at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre gala, circa 2005]

UPDATE: LAPD CLOSES CASE WITHOUT BRIEFING LEAH REMINI ON HER MISSING-PERSON REPORT (See update below)

 
Leah Remini has taken a surprising new step, the Underground Bunker has learned.

After speaking with the Los Angeles Police Department, we have confirmed that on Wednesday Remini filed a missing-person report for Scientology leader David Miscavige’s wife, Shelly Miscavige, who has not been seen in public in six years.

As we reported when we broke the news July 8 of Remini’s departure from Scientology, one of the main reasons she began to question her involvement in the church was discovering at the wedding of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes in November 2006 that Miscavige was there without his wife, who had disappeared without explanation. When Leah asked about it, then church spokesman Tommy Davis told her, “You don’t have the fucking rank to ask about Shelly.”

In other stories, we have explained that in late 2005 or early 2006, Shelly was transferred from Scientology’s International Base near Hemet, California to a secret compound near Lake Arrowhead in the mountains above Los Angeles. This compound, the headquarters of the Church of Spiritual Technology, is home to only a dozen or so Scientologists who are completely cut off from the outside world. We’ve been told that Shelly has been there for the past six years. But Miscavige and his attorneys have so far refused to publicly confirm her location there, and they have not produced her to confirm that she is in good health.

Now, Remini has put enormous pressure on the church to do just that by involving the LAPD.

Their job won’t be easy. Remini filed the report in Los Angeles, where Scientology’s international administrative headquarters are downtown, as well as many other church facilities. Before she vanished, however, Shelly Miscavige was living and working at the church’s international management headquarters on a 500-acre compound near Hemet, California, which is in Riverside County. The CST compound, where we believe Shelly is being held today, is near Lake Arrowhead in San Bernardino County. This jurisdictional jigsaw puzzle is complicated by the church’s relationship with law enforcement agencies, which includes a cozy friendship with Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca, as well as a history of support from the Riverside County board of supervisors.

But Leah Remini’s involvement may prove a major shift in that calculus.

Our sources tell us that Remini has been dealing with an enormous reaction to the news of her defection. She’s been inundated with reactions from other church members who find themselves also having grave doubts about Scientology leader David Miscavige, and are also facing the ravages of Scientology’s toxic policy of “disconnection,” which tends to tear families apart.

Remini has been busy dealing with her family’s safety, the alleged abuses of Scientology’s Sea Org workers, the disconnection policy, as well as the whereabouts of Shelly Miscavige and whether she has freedom of movement or has been convinced she is being punished for her own shortcomings.

We had previously been told that Remini had considered Shelly a friend, and we now have photographic evidence of it, obtained from our sources in the church…

 
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The two were photographed at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre gala, circa 2005.

 
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At another year’s CC gala, Shelly, left, and Leah Remini’s husband Angelo Pagán are seen with Barbara Ruiz.

Javier Ruiz

Javier Ruiz

We’ve written previously about Ruiz, who was a high-level Scientology executive at Author Services, Inc., which serves as Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard’s literary agency and also runs the church’s science fiction contest, Writers of the Future. Ruiz was seen to administer the 2004 contest, and she was also seen helping to run “The Hole” that year — a bizarre office-prison at the International Base near Hemet. Since then, however, she has not been seen publicly.

Barbara and Shelly were close friends, and our sources tell us that Barbara may also be at the CST Headquarters near Lake Arrowhead.

And now we’ve also heard from our sources that Leah Remini is concerned about Barbara’s disappearance. We’re told that sometime last year, she contacted Barbara’s ex-husband, Javier Ruiz, who also worked at ASI but is no longer working for the church. Leah did not, however, get a satisfactory response about Barbara’s current whereabouts, and subsequently, Javier turned her in to Scientology ethics officers for asking about his ex-wife. We have previously made attempts to contact Javier Ruiz, with no luck.

Javier is currently married to Brittany Sierra Garrett, who was identified four years ago by former Scientology executive Jefferson Hawkins as one of Scientology’s “Facebook police,” who patrol the social media landscape, urging church members to de-friend anyone who has been “declared a suppressive person” — excommunicated by the church.

We have made another request for a statement from Leah Remini with her publicist, and if we hear back, we’ll let you know.

We’re looking forward to finding out if the LAPD has the rank to ask about Shelly Miscavige.

 
UPDATE: LAPD Officer Gregory Baek tells us that detectives have made contact with Shelly Miscavige and now consider the case closed and classified as “unfounded.”

(That news started filtering out a few hours ago, first with an unnamed LAPD source to the New York Daily News.)

But here’s the thing. Our sources tell us that Leah Remini, who filed the report earlier this week, had not been briefed by the LAPD and was told the case was still open late this afternoon.

We asked Officer Baek — Would the LAPD begin telling the press and public that the case was closed without briefing the person who made the missing-person report?

“That depends on the situation and the case, and the detective will decide which will get first,” he told us. “I don’t know exactly what happened.”

Well, that’s reassuring.

So the public still has no confirmation on where Shelly Miscavige is, what condition she’s in, and why she hasn’t been seen at church events in the last seven years.

And Leah Remini, as far as we know, has received no answers to her questions.

 
——————–

RESCHEDULED: Prepare For an Epochal Meeting of the Minds

Because of today’s breaking news, we’ve moved our special appearance by PZ Myers to tomorrow morning…

 
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Pharyngula goes whole track! Has PZ Myers met his match in the genius of L. Ron Hubbard and biological evolution, Scientology style? Join us tomorrow morning to find out!

 
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Narconon Arrowhead’s Medical Detox Shuts Down

Narconon Arrowhead, Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility in Oklahoma, has been mired in investigations and lawsuits since three patients died in only nine months — the last was Stacy Murphy in July 2012. Publicity over her overdose death led to a new state law to increase regulation of the facility, and its executive director, Gary Smith, lost his counseling certification. Now, Jeanne LeFlore at the McAlester News-Capital is reporting that Narconon Arrowhead’s satellite medical detox facility in McAlester has shut down after its temporary permit expired. “The permit expired May 16 after Narconon Arrowhead failed to correct deficiencies found by the state during earlier inspections,” LeFlore writes. The facility had opened in 2011.

We turned to former Narconon Arrowhead president Luke Catton for his thoughts on the closure. He confirmed that Narconon — which is a non-medical program that uses Scientology training in place of drug counseling — had begun to experiment with separate facilities for medical detox.

“A couple of Narconon centers have tried this,” he tells us. “They can get $500 a day per patient or more. And when they opened that facility two years ago, they started relying heavily on that income. They could get people in who normally wouldn’t go to a Narconon, and it opened up a new line on insurance. Insurance policies will pay up to $1,000 a day for medical detox.”

The satellite medical detox facility’s closure, however, doesn’t affect the licensing of the main Narconon Arrowhead facility in Canadian, Oklahoma, he added. We’re still waiting to see if that will be affected by the new state law.

 
——————–

The Final Chapter in the Scott Campbell Saga

Karen de la Carriere, J. Swift, and Angry Gay Pope finish up this fascinating series on former Sea Org worker Scott Campbell…

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on August 8, 2013 at 07:00

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If you’d like to help support The Underground Bunker, please e-mail our webmaster Scott Pilutik at BunkerFund@tonyortega.org

 

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  • Leslie Stipe
    • Bella Legosi

      I dunno. It reads as if they sent a photog outside of Big Blue and just asked someone who looked like they knew what was going on and the info is what is quoted.
      :/
      Since there is no real confirmation, no names or sources to quote, I am sure they were just fed an OSA line. TMZ is a creature of rumor mill habit.

  • Mr. Fabulous

    So Shelly has allegedly been found safe and well? Miscavige will be thinking that’s the end of it. Nope. Not by a long shot, Slappy. :)

  • Bella Legosi

    Downvoter is back!

    Don’t you just love how he/she shows up at the end of the day when they think most of us are not here? That is soooooo cowardly. And they have yet to use those communications skills that will save Mankind!

    Did you really pay thousands of dollars to click an arrow on a mouse? Is this what you consider spirituality?

    L Ron would be so proud of you Downvoter! Where are your friends? Are you the only one that can muster a click of the mouse? Is that what your religion has come to? Can’t even find 2 or 3 more people to click a mouse with and talk amongst yourselves how 1.1 we all are and insane?

    Click away you religous warrior you! You are in a company of ONE.

    • Poison Ivy

      Don’t blame him/her. Just plugging away at those A&E’s, confronting and shattering us degraded enemies of the One True Church.

      • Bella Legosi

        I don’t blame, but I do not condone passive aggressive silence either. For a group that professes excellent communication skills and cause over MEST they still have yet to say anything at all. For that I have zero pity. The moment they speak up I will shut up. Would you still have that opinion if tomorrow you found out Downvoters were apart of Squirrel Buster infamy? I know they are not supposed to defend, only attack when it comes to critics of their “faith”, but is it so bad in OSA or with Publics they can no longer even type the party line?

        Ohhhh looky they got a friend to join in!

    • KJP in Portland

      They’re all ONE. They don’t teach individuality and critical thought for opossum shit.

      • KJP in Portland

        Aww… I AM loved!

        • KJP in Portland

          (psst…that’s a REAL Navy uniform too…tsk, tsk…)

    • Pink Freud

      Sorry, but to call scientology a religion is absurd. It’s nothing more than a cult. There is no belief in anything other than total control of its so-called “parishioners”. And, of course, enriching David Micavinge’s pockets.

      • KJP in Portland

        Hear, hear!

    • Spackle Motion

      OK, Bella, this picture is bugging me. You keep posting it and it is driving me nuts because it looks like it is from the movie “Suburbia”. I know that I’ve seen it, whatever this picture is from. It’s driving me crazy….please tell me where you got this?

      • Bella Legosi

        It is from Baz Luhrman’s 90′s “Romeo + Juliet”

        It is from the first scene where the Monteques and Capulets get into it.

        “I shall bite my thumb at them; which is a disgrace to them; should they bear it!”

        • Spackle Motion

          Oh….OK. RIGHT!!!

          Thank you. It was seriously bugging me because I couldn’t place it.

  • Richie

    Whoever posted that Remini was waiting to act for a cash grab was wrong. She’s principled and if this tactic doesn’t shed light on Shelly’s whereabouts, she’ll re-route and try something else. Leah, if you’re reading, keep strong and carry on. You’re doing the right thing.

    • KJP in Portland

      good post (up voted)

  • KJP in Portland

    Even with corruption on every level of government, I think the FBI is still fairly incorruptible and, I wish THEY would go after this Godd*mned criminal organization. Really, if Co$ is to truly be obliterated, the FBI would be our better bet at getting it done. Postlude: I’d still like to see myself live long enough to see Miss Cabbage get LIFE, or LIFE without parole someday.

    This entire ‘religion’ acts and governs itself as if their its own country (as in an enclave of the United States). They follow NO rules, they strong-armed the IRS into their ‘religious exemption’; and, I have a feeling that the Co$ has strong-armed higher US and abroad government levels with their Fair-Game horseshit.

    Everything I’ve read, especially in the past one month, here on Tony’s blog, reeks of an organization that runs itself along the lines of the National Socialist Party of (guess who…), Germany! Remember THEM? You’re right! the Nazi Party! (NazionalSocialistDeutschesArbeitPartei), {forgive my lack of German}. Seriously, I’ve seen NOTHING on this scale, ever, for an organization that is not a country of their own.

    If Leah’s upcoming book is worth half its salt, then we are in for even further sordid discoveries in our collective knowledge-bases.

    My rant and ramble for today.

    • Poison Ivy

      I have a friend who was undercover w/the FBI (decorated) for 8 years. Wonder why they never sent anyone under into Scientology?

      • KJP in Portland

        I can only wonder if they’ve been ‘hushed up’ too :(

      • Ruby

        Probably because David Miscavige is already doing enough to do the cult in, so why waste the manpower?

      • DavidaRochelle

        Who says they didn’t? Except the opponent has literally unlimited funds and is obsessive/compulsive in its retaliation. Which side therefore has more power?

  • Jillian

    Most of the posts seem to have a negative tone level

    • q-bird

      as if

    • KJP in Portland

      Oh, just give us the code already…

    • sugarplumfairy

      Whereas yours are somewhere between 2.4 and 2.5..

    • LaLa104

      whatevah

    • Cher

      Negative is the best you can do? How very disappointing

      • KJP in Portland

        Cher by one!

        • Cher

          But no down vote for me. :(

          • KJP in Portland

            howdahell ya get 2 of em?

    • Lunatic Posse

      Hey! I want a downvote too! Gimme a downvote you crazy loon!

      • Lunatic Posse

        Thank you. I feel much better now. In fact I feel great! I’m the KING OF THE WORLD!! YAHOO!!

  • Couch_Incident

    WTF – anybody else catch that that rag Celebuzz referred to Tony as “former Scientolgist-turned-writer”? I call bullshit. Either they don’t know what the fuck they’re writing or they’re being fed crap from OSA (GO for you oldtimers with fond memories of the “good old days” under LiarH).

    • Poison Ivy

      Oh geez. Tony’s a Scientologist like I’m a SuperModel. (No offense to John P’s SuperModels!)

      • KJP in Portland

        I’m glad I don’t watch those rag-sites, mags and TV shows. I’m proud I was born and raised to QUESTION many things. To be a critical thinker. To indulge in many life-interests. Mind-control…oh God, I don’t want to get started (valium, please)

    • Couch_Incident

      As far as I can tell, that crap publication Celebuzz is the only one carrying the claim “Case Closed”. Never heard of them before this.

      Hey, congratulate me on my first downvote! I think it took all of 1 second – lots of time for the downvoter to digest my post.

      • KJP in Portland

        Shit C.I., that one second is more time than they ever sat down in school! (LOL here…sorry)

        • Couch_Incident

          They’re just a bitter frocked believer!

  • Poison Ivy

    Hoping Tony drops back in to confirm or deny the rumor that LAPD had a cozy sit-down with Shelly herself.

    Oh – and one other things, CO$ just lost another celeb. This time, to Target 2. The great Karen Black passed away from bladder cancer at 74. Recently, she had turned to crowdfunding to help with her cancer treatments. Do you think CO$ gave her back any of the money she gave to them over the years to help?
    Was she still a practicing clam when she passed?

    • MO Mom

      That is sad. I enjoyed the many films she was in. May she be at peace.

      • Poison Ivy

        Remember when she was in just about everything? Pretty much every disaster movie and TV series in the late ’70′s/early ’80s?

        • Studious Judious

          Airport ’75. I so had the hots for her.

          • Poison Ivy

            Recently MrPI and I did a Disaster Flick nostalgia binge and watched ‘em all in a row. Man, they just got worse and worse and worse. She had a very exotic look. Almost supernatural.

            • Studious Judious

              BTW, I have the hots for your avatar as well.

            • Poison Ivy

              <<>> Judious!

            • Captain Howdy

              You guys crack me up. I’m going to start a Horror/underground cinema blog just for you all. It will be a gas.

          • KJP in Portland

            We all did in my ‘hood’.

          • Couch_Incident

            Something vaguely sexual about Charlton Heston dropping in on her through the hole in the cockpit.

            • Poison Ivy

              One of the great moments in American cinema. I seem to remember he was wearing a turtleneck. He was always wearing a turtleneck.

        • LaLa104

          I remember she was in some trilogy TV movie in the 70′s about a voodoo doll thing that she received in the mail and it terrorized her in her house until she became like it. Skerred the bejebus outta me as a kid.

          • Poison Ivy
            • LaLa104

              Seriously, I still remember this movie till this day! It was a trilogy of horror stories .. Jeepers PI, now I’m gonna be sleeping with the lights on tonight.. LOL

            • Poison Ivy

              Trilogy of Terror! Yes I remember it too!

            • LaLa104

              Ding, Ding, Ding.. PI you have no idea how much mental mind twisting you saved me from tonight trying to remember the name of this movie!

            • Poison Ivy

              Check in tomorrow and tell me if you had nightmares – I just watched the clip and am afraid that I will ! :-0

            • LaLa104

              This movie made such an impression on me that I remember this movie as clearly as I did 40 years ago. And wait let me think about that PI, AAAAAHHHH NO… My Elmo kitty is gone now (3 weeks as of tomorrow) and I have nothing to calm me when I get the hee bee geebies in the middle of the night..

            • Poison Ivy

              DId you ever see the original 1922 German silent Nosferatu the Vampyr? I saw that way too young and the images haunt me to this day.
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxlJxDr26mM

            • LaLa104

              Yes, I remember watching this with my step-father as a child. He was a vampire freak. Use to turn off all the lights in the house and play hide and seek with us acting like Dracula.

            • Studious Judious

              that would have freaked me out bad! I shiver now just thinking of Nosferatu! (turning lights on, and radio up)

            • Poison Ivy

              One of the best examples of early German impressionistic cinema ever; forerunner of Film Noir as well. Amazing use of lighting and lenses and chiascuro, far ahead of its time.

              As a kid, however, all I cared about was, IS THAT VAMPIRE GOING TO KILL ME?

            • Couch_Incident

              Check out the Spanish version of 1931 “Dracula” filmed at night with the same sets used during the day on the Lugosi version.

  • Studious Judious

    The downvotes crack me up. It’s like when a kid sticks their tongue out at you.

  • Jillian

    You only need a point to expand upon, to have a viewpoint

    • Jvm3

      Not to enturbulate you, but from my viewpoint you speak only nonsensical jibberish

      • LaLa104

        Me thinks Jillie likes to hear herself rant.

        • Jillian

          Himself

          • LaLa104

            Well, there you have it. HE clarified it for us….

          • Couch_Incident

            I’m glad the surgery and the hormone treatments did the trick.

          • sugarplumfairy

            turtlez!!!

            • KJP in Portland

              He’s got a lot o’ time on his hands tonight…code please!

          • q-bird

            providing clear and convincing evidence of somethings you have here ~ he tries somethings good.
            Good night to you Jillian ~ you’re a gas!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Viewpoints are like arseholes… Everybody has one.. And everybody knows a few..

      Ladies and gentlemen.. This has been a lovvvvely day.. Time to go to sleep and dream about what new problems and pitfalls will plague cof$ next..

      • Studious Judious

        remember tomorrow… PZ!

      • KJP in Portland

        I was going to tell ‘her’ that “I have a point she can view”, hehehehe!

  • KJP in Portland

    An open appeal to all Scientologists to come here, read the truth, and ESCAPE your life of hell. You will gain nothing but love and support going through your transition back to a healthy, sane, uncontrolled life.

    …c’mon, cross the REAL bridge. Come back ‘home’.

    • Poison Ivy

      Here here! A mind – and a soul – are two terrible things to waste.

      • Robert Eckert

        Warning: Pedantry The phrase is “Hear, hear!”

  • kristinbarrick

    TMZ says the cops just talked to Shelly

    • Poison Ivy

      Yes wishing Tony would drop back in to confirm or deny. Harvey Levin knows scoops, but only Tony knows Clams.

    • KJP in Portland

      I’ll give it more credence when NBC, CNN, New York Times, etc. report it. TMZ? (third-rate quasi-journalism)

      • Jillian

        Dont forget Fox, its as good

        • Bella Legosi

          Is it just me or should FOX be named the “Poor White People’s News Network”? I was just watching it while eating and kinda lost my appetite as they discussed immigration reform.

          • KJP in Portland

            I was gonna chime in that Fox blows. No air time on MY set!

        • sugarplumfairy

          Aaaaaggghhh!!! Scientologist AND a FOX fan..

          • Poison Ivy

            I can see the correlation. There is definitely a “control the information,” “Hive mentality”, often cultic feeling to Fox reporting. And have you ever seen them try and shame one another if someone strays from the party line too far?

          • q-bird

            Actual headline from my local newspaper last week:

            BUSY BEAVER
            BEING
            BOTHERSOME

            • Lunatic Posse

              That photog is lucky that beaver did’nt kill him.

          • Robert Eckert

            Jillian is neither a Scientologist nor a Fox fan, just our old friend Hail Marcabia playing trollish games.

            • Couch_Incident

              Why on earth would anyone waste their time like that?

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t know, but he does this fairly frequently.

        • Jvm3

          I used to love watching Fox for the same reason I watch bad syfy channel movies. It went downhill when Glenn beck left, unfortunately.

  • Studious Judious

    When I see trolls, I remember back to a psychology course I took in college. The instructor was explaining ‘strokes.’ (giggle if you want) As I recall, the best type of stroke was an unconditional positive stroke, followed by conditional positive, conditional negative, and then unconditional negative. But the absolute worst was to be ignored. That’s right, no stroke at all.

    I think Scientologists could use a little training in psychology.

    • Poison Ivy

      “I think Scientologists could use a little training in psychology.”

      However if they had it, they wouldn’t be Scientologists anymore!

    • Jillian

      The psychs do not have a lockup hold on the understanding of the science of the mind, many other non medical approaches have been applicated to this issue

      • KJP in Portland

        …outed. That’s about 6 sciloon-lexicons, three lies and a couple of denials in one afternoon / evening. One lie was “I’m not a Sci…” (cough…err, k)

        • Poison Ivy

          Bingo! “Applicated” was a pretty heavy hint.

        • Missionary Kid

          Jillian has been following me around, giving me down votes, and it’s past the time for stats.

          She must be desperate for strokes.

          • Poison Ivy

            Flattered by the down vote tech, honey, but it doesn’t work over here. In fact, we genuinely enjoy it. If COB found out you were giving us so much entertainment, you’d have to do those A&E’s all over again.

            • Missionary Kid

              I think you meant for that to go to Jillian.
              She got the message, I see, because she rewarded you with one.

        • Jillian

          Not true

          • sugarplumfairy

            What if it’s true for her?

            • Missionary Kid

              That makes her a true believer. Facts don’t matter.

          • KJP in Portland

            Hail Marconi! (he did invent the radio. At least that was one benefit to mankind)

            • Missionary Kid

              Interestingly enough, there’s some debate about that. There is some evidence that Tesla actually was able to do it first, but Marconi gave a better demonstration. On that account, I still credit Marconi.

            • KJP in Portland

              MK…well read guy! Tesla was robbed of much by Edison in his early years. Thankfully, history is starting to sort out how important Tesla was in the dawn of electricity, wireless, etc.

            • Couch_Incident

              Yeah, but Edison was the first to electrocute an elephant!

            • Missionary Kid

              He was only trying to demonstrate the dangers of alternating current. That’s why Edison invented the electric chair.

              It turns out that he was wrong about AC not being as good for transmitting power as his beloved DC. Edison screwed himself in the history of electricity, but made a bundle anyway.

            • USA MRIID

              Fucking elephant deserved it! Um, but I have to ask: Why?

            • Couch_Incident

              Well, to be fair, Topsy the elephant had killed handlers. However, in the early days of electrical distribution in cities, there were two competing plans: 1. Alternating Current (AC) pushed by Tesla & Westinghouse (and obviously the winner now); and 2. Direct Current (DC) pushed by Edison. Edison wanted to show how dangerous AC was, so he set up a demonstration to electrocute the elephant with AC. Story and video here:
              http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/01/dayintech_0104

            • Missionary Kid

              I think he was brilliant, but that there’s some people who are trying to give him a little bit too much credit now. His dream was to transmit power efficiently without wires. There are present fans of his that are convinced that he somehow had discovered the secret. I doubt it.

            • Couch_Incident

              And then there’s the story of tragic Armstrong versus Sarnoff.

            • Missionary Kid

              Yeah, Sarnoff ripped him off.

            • KJP in Portland

              Sarnoff was a crook. Period.

      • Cher

        And will you be enlightening us on said approaches?

        • KJP in Portland

          “applicated” (Oh, geez…is this DM himself typing away?)

        • Jillian

          Well hopefully not, since lobotomies are totally wrong and protested against

          • KJP in Portland

            Lobotomies died with the 1970s

          • Couch_Incident

            I can tell you have a personal stake in lobotomies – do tell!

            • LaLa104

              I find Jillie entertaining. It’s like watching a train wreck. The more he types, the more he outs himself. It’s amusing to me… :D

            • Once_Born

              That should be ‘personal ice pick’.

              Stakes are too big for lobotomies. Good for vampires, though.

          • Studious Judious

            but ECT is actually quite effective.

            • KJP in Portland

              Ol’ Elrod coulda used and benefited from a few of them!

            • Once_Born

              It does indeed work – and the treatment now includes muscle relaxants, so the patient does not suffer convulsions, as they did in the early days.

              My only reservation is that nobody understands why it works – and fixing the brain by kicking it is so…inelegant.

            • Studious Judious

              True, medical science does not know the exact method of why it works. It is also used generally as a last resort. Since my background is digital electronics, I’ve always thought of it as a reset or reboot for the brain.

          • Poison Ivy

            No one is protesting lobotomies these days, except perhaps outside animal testing labs.

            As for ECT, done correctly it has saved lives. Ask Carrie Fisher.

          • Cher

            Yea, lobotomies aren’t used so much anymore. Haven’t they updated you all on the new treatments used this millenuim? One would think that was the least they could do

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks for brinfing up the number of comments.

            • Missionary Kid

              Newer procedures are not only peer reviewed, but usually examined by specialists in medical ethics, and I don’t mean $cion ethics, which are measured in money donated to the cult.

          • Jvm3

            What I find interesting is that you use “protested against” to reinforce your position that it is wrong. You realize that Scientology is protested against as well, right?

          • Missionary Kid

            Gee, when was the last time that anyone in the mainstream of medical science advocated lobotomies? Like the rest of LRH “tech” you’re many decades behind the times.

      • Missionary Kid

        Gee, really? You mean that a whole raft of non-peer reviewed crap that LRH wrote, based on personal theories, is more accurate than long term and cross-sectional studies that are published so the sources can be studied?

        LRH never published anything but anecdotes and made up statistics. Math was not his strength, and I suspect that’s why he failed physics.

        • Poison Ivy

          LRH said calculus was a lie, right? Hard to figure out how he got to be one of the world’s first nuk-you-lurrr physicists without it, but hey…the Commodore was quite the Renaissance man.

          • KJP in Portland

            Yeah, whenever I read about Fermi, Grove, Oppenheimer; I always see ‘Hubbard’ in there too. Not.

        • KJP in Portland

          Not to mention that his ‘tech’ was a stitched-together mess of new-age mumbo-jumbo he plagiarized from many earlier writers.

          • Couch_Incident

            And basically unchanged since the 50′s.

        • Once_Born

          22.47% of statistics are made up on the spot

          • KJP in Portland

            by LRH!

          • KJP in Portland

            That leaves 77.53% that are well-studied and cross-checked, peer-reviewed and published, I’ll go with that any day than the 100% B.S. that is Co$

          • Missionary Kid

            Especially if you’re a $cion.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thank you, dear Jillian for the downvote.

        • Jillian

          Whats “peer revered” anyway, does not sound very scientologic

          • KJP in Portland

            My sides hurt too f’ing much! I’m giving ONE upvote for comedic stress release!

            • sister wendy

              totally! This is more fun than my regular nighttime reading for sure!

          • Jvm3

            Can you not afford to learn reading comprehension tech?

          • q-bird

            oh crap – your ignorance is just darling Jillie!
            howzit goin’ for you tonight? You havin’ fun?

          • Missionary Kid

            If you refresh your browser, you’ll see that It was corrected to read “Peer reviewed.”

            You also used a word that has no meaning in the real world, “scientologic.”

            LRH had no files of studies that he did, so nothing could be reviewed. No {research} of his has ever been revealed, aside from his anecdotal reports. Any legitimate scientist would be laughed out of a profession if they didn’t allow review of their research. It’s all made up bullshit.

            I feel sorry for someone who’s living a lie because they’re following a liar. Welcome.

          • Missionary Kid

            Just for you, dear Jillian

            Thank you for the down votes. Since I’m only getting one at a time, it’s obvious you’re the only one doing it.

            Sad.

        • USA MRIID

          Hubbard learned it all while he was becoming a Blood Brother to the Blackfoot Indian, just like in the movie Hando which was a movie made about Hubbard.

          • Missionary Kid

            Don’t you just love all the sooper powers and events they attribute to LRH?

      • Anonymookme

        STFU

      • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

        2/10

      • Applicated Lurker

        thanks for the screen name Jillian. In you honor I will make a donation the Bunker:)

      • Nevermore

        ‘Applied’, Jillian. One applies medical approaches.

      • USA MRIID

        What pisses me off — drives me CRAZY! you might say — is that I have not been applicated by anyone in over a year now.

    • USA MRIID

      Tee hee. He said “strokes.” :)

  • media_lush

    STOP PRESS….. FIRST PHOTO OF SHELLY MISCAVIGE RELEASED BY LAPD

    • KJP in Portland

      link, link, link…

    • q-bird

      oh _Lush! done kilt me. :-P

    • Davka

      What?! Where?!

      Edit – oh, dear. ML, no fair! :)

      • q-bird

        refresh darlings!

    • KJP in Portland

      Bwahahaha! and another roflmao, and another bwahahaha!

      • KJP in Portland

        That shirtless man-boobs pic of him caused me nightmares for awhile.

    • LaLa104

      Oh the lulz…. Beautimous!

    • Ruby

      You are too funny! :)

      • Ruby

        Oh whoever is down voting… JT would laff at this too… so, go away…

    • Marti

      Wait just a minute. That’s not Mrs. Miscavige!

    • Marti

      Wait just a minute. That’s not Mrs. Miscavige!

      • q-bird

        oh ***snort*** laughing laughing! all over again.

        • KJP in Portland

          I started again when I saw that!

    • MisTRhi

      He wishes….

    • USA MRIID

      Would ya stop with the joking and degrading, ya big meanie?!

      • media_lush

        no

        • DamOTclese2

          ROFL!

  • TonyOrtega

    POST UPDATED: REMINI NOT BRIEFED BY LAPD WHEN IT CLOSES THE CASE SHE REPORTED.

    • ThetaBara

      What? They closed the case already?! With no explanation? Whoa.

      • KJP in Portland

        Yeah, LAPD, the paragon of all that’s wrong with America. Rodney King, do you have anything to say?

      • USA MRIID

        Their explanation was “don’t worry about it, ma’am.”

    • LaLa104

      Tony? Question to my earlier post. Isn’t the LAPD Police Chief somehow affiliated with Scion promoting? Wasn’t he involved in some shindig for C0$ last year. I seem to remember reading about it at the VV.

      • TonyOrtega

        No, that’s the Sheriff, Lee Baca, not the police chief. Different departments.

        • LaLa104

          My mistake.. Thank you …

        • USA MRIID

          Exactly! Ya want to buy LAPD cops, ya got to bring more than one envelop fulla cash. :)

    • Tory Christman

      Tony……Please tell us more, this SUCKS.

      • Tory Christman

        PS: “Dave” and you OSA Floor mats: I’ve told you this before and I’ll say it again: You can RUN but you CANNOT HIDE~! You may have slithered out of *this* one, but trust me….your holding of people as hostages is NOT going away, nor are we—around the world. Justice IS on the way! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE……….”SAY WHEN….” :)

        • LaLa104

          Tick Tock….

        • Tory Christman

          PSS: I’m not happy to say it, but I called it 7 hours ago:

          “Tory Christman

          7 hours ago
          Absolutely: Thank you, Leah~ And thank you Tony O for bringing ALL of this to us.
          Certainly many of us have asked ‘Where is Shelly” for many years. Unfortunately, none
          of us knew her personally so any mention of her was just flipped off. Thankfully her friend, Leah, has now actually been able to ask the LAPD for help on this.

          Scientology typically will dive in, pay off whomever and move along.”
          _________________________

          I had hoped this would NOT be the case. I guess we’ll have to wait and hear. I do know this: Whatever unjust or bad things you are doing to people, be it Shelly Miscavige, the many Executives locked in the “Hole” or ALL of the families you (“Dave”) have made sure to break up…Your Day IS coming…this I’m sure of: All alone….very, very alone with nothing at your side but Karma and Justice. …There’s where the “You can run, but you CANNOT hide” comes in. Keep on keepin on, to one and ALL (and that’s from Ida Camburn :) Tory/Magoo

          • Tory Christman

            What pussie didn’t like my PS? What exactly didn’t you like about it? I’d like to know.

            Learn some debating skills and give it a shot. It’s WAY better then being in “hiding” …very, very low on the “Know to Mystery scale”. Best! TLC

            • LaLa104

              Aaawwww Tory, we have a Down Voter in here keeping very busy tonight.. Just keep posting what ya do best. Maybe their widdle index finger will get twired from all their down voting. ~snickers~

            • Tory Christman

              No sweat—I just like to *sometimes* see if someone who didn’t like s/t will have the courage to say what they *really* think. (Hence the pussy comment, which is what *I* really meant :) It’s fine…I always move along. Too little time….WAY too much to do. Love to all here, and Happy Week-end coming UP :)

            • Robert Eckert
            • Jillian

              im going to down vote that sucka

            • Spackle Motion

              Keep it classy, Jill. You Scientologists really know how to add value to a conversation.

            • noseinabk

              I think you may know Jillian. He posted a link.

              https://twitter.com/HailMarc

            • Spackle Motion

              Awww…..really? Marcotai lives???!?

              I missed him/her/it. Welcome home, Marcotai.

            • noseinabk

              So glad to find someone who gets it!! I hoped to pass it on before I go to bed.

            • Marti

              Jillian, How are you?

            • Marti

              Jillian, A down vote, Not feeling well?

            • Marti

              So, are you at home or at work?

            • Marti

              Ok. A down vote. So at work. Are you scientologist?

            • Marti

              A down vote. so you are Scion?

            • Marti

              Jillian, Can you recall a time you felt affinity for someone.

            • Marti

              Jillian, Where did you go?

            • Marti

              Jillian, an up vote for affinity. That’s good.

            • sister wendy

              Marti- I’m laughing so hard at this exchange! Thanks so much for the humor:)

        • Spackle Motion

          Hai!! I’ll be your Huckleberry.

    • SP ‘Onage

      “That depends on the situation and the case, and the detective will decide which will get first,” he told us. “I don’t know exactly what happened.”

      Oh good, now Angeleno’s can sleep sooo much better tonight because the LAPD doesn’t know exactly what’s happening? Again!

      • USA MRIID

        What an LAPD spokeshole says “I don’t know what exactly happened” what they mean is “I don’t know who got the envelop full of cash this time.”

    • USA MRIID

      So the person who was concerned enough to ask that her friend get a welfare check was not informed on whether a welfare check was performed or not. How’s *that* for typical LAPD incompetence?

      -sniff- -sniff- Smells like Scientology asshole Sheriff Baca got involved in this one.

  • Poison Ivy

    Tony thanks for the update.

    But damn, it raises more questions than it answers.

    I don’t trust the LAPD (although I had at least one good experience with them when I lived there.) But I don’t trust any California law enforcement when it comes to Scientology.

    • Cher

      I live in California and I wouldn’t necessarily say all California law enforcement. Southern California, definitely but not Northern California.

      I didn’t really expect any outcome other than the one it seems we have gotten. But I don’t see this as a loss at all. Leah forced their hand and that is HUGE. And the public isn’t dumb. They may have produced Shelly to law enforcement but everyone is wondering why it took a missing persons report for that to happen. That is what people will remember.

  • KJP in Portland

    STOP downvoting and leave the church! These great people are here to help!

    Cross the REAL BRIDGE back to FREEDOM!

    • Jillian

      If downvoting is a problem for you, there is a fix for that

      • Studious Judious

        now that was funny!

      • KJP in Portland

        Would that fix be cash or credit? All that beans-n-rice for how many hundreds of thousands of dollars? (ouch!)

        • Jillian

          I wouldnt know, but it depends

          • Ruby

            You do realize that your visits here improve the stats for Tony’s blog. That may cost you some dough on your next sec check…just saying…

            • Jillian

              To what are you referring?

            • KJP in Portland

              Net Nanny strikes again!

            • Missionary Kid

              Gee, you either are being purposely obtuse or you’re thick as a brick. When you keep appearing, we have fun making fun of you, and that means more posts on one subject.

              Down votes only encourage us.

            • LaLa104

              Snickering like the Village Idiot here over that post…. So TRUE!

            • USA MRIID

              I tell ya, the stupid fuck really must be Kirstie Alley. Godda be.

            • USA MRIID

              No no! Down votes makes us cry. :( I… I can not go on!

            • Missionary Kid

              *Chuckle* Great sarcasm.

            • Once_Born

              Please communicate with us, as you have been taught, and show us how us how effectively you can argue.

              Downvote this post if you understand me.

            • USA MRIID

              ROFL! These insane Scientology loons *are* showing us exactly what the quality of their Scientology training is. :) Duh!

            • USA MRIID

              Your IQ, Kirstie. Your IQ.

            • USA MRIID

              If you look at Alexa page rankings, Tony’s stats are through the friggen’ roof!

          • Missionary Kid

            Especially since the hubster said that smoking prevented cancer. *Snicker*

        • KJP in Portland

          What is the real life-expectancy of a clam? I mean, next to no REAL medical treatment, etc. Maybe 50 years, max? Not only have they bilked you and yours, Jillian, of your soul, and your money, and whatever you could borrow…they robbed you of valuable golden years of your life (potentially). Now, aint that just grrrrreat! for investing the last 10, 20, 30 years of your life in???

      • USA MRIID

        Would the “fix” involve sucking dwarf cock?

  • Sarah James

    Just heard TMZ reported LAPD talked to Shelly.

    • USA MRIID

      Apparently not.

  • Jillian

    Leah is not writing a book as we speak

    • Couch_Incident

      Remember Jillian, “Good Roads and Fair Weather!”

    • LaLa104

      Aren’t you worried about being SEC CHECKED for even typing Leah’s name? WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES??

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      Nah, she probably finished it already…

      Or are you saying that Leah is too worried about the safety of her friend, Shelly Miscavige, wife of David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige?

      Could be.

      You’re pretty sharp, “Jillian”

      I agree with you, the key question is

      W H E R E _ I S _ S H E L L Y ?

    • Marti

      As we speak, she’s probably sleeping.
      Good night Brave Leah.
      Sincerely, sweet dreams to you and your family
      Edit: And to Shelly.

    • nottrue

      oh you blew a big charge huh

    • Missionary Kid

      You’re a little late with that. Tony already reported on that.

  • media_lush

    I think Kirstie The Hutt is drunk and losing her mind (tell me something new, ed)

    • media_lush

      earlier….

      • noseinabk

        I don’t know about drunk but nasty bitch fits.

        Melinda Brownstone minmin10084h

        “@kirstiealley: I can’t think of anyone I hate I have a good understanding of pricks” I hate NO ONE. Which is odd cuz I knew some nasty C’s!

      • KJP in Portland

        Krusty the Skank was born drunk… (lol, sorry!) :)

      • Observer

        The one that jumps out at me is the “excelling at life” thing. In what way is she excelling? She’s not acting, her Organic Liaison crap isn’t selling well and in fact recently had to pay a $130,000 judgment against it for, I believe, false advertising, she is a member of a mind-warping cult, she has been spanked by her cult for helping the Leah flap along, and she’s 62 years old and acts like a petulant 13-year-old. Everything she does screams desperation.

    • USA MRIID

      Kirstie thinks there’s a “next move” after checkmate. :)

  • MisTRhi

    This is what can be expected from a psychopath with severe narcissistic personality disorder!
    Probably one of the reasons why Misgavage and Cruise are joined at the hip…..oh that and all the money he brings to the table!?

  • Bella Legosi

    :D
    over 1,360 comments today…….is it just me or did many people find their way to the Bunker today?

    • Jillian

      mostly its the same person loging in and off with different names to achieve this affect

      • coonellie

        Hey, Jillian my dear, when you write your posts, perhaps you could use a spell and grammar checker. Your “writing” tech is lacking and your lack of a real education is showing.

        The word “loging” is spelled “logging”.
        The word “affect” is a verb. “Scientology affects a person’s ability to write cogent sentences.”
        You want the word “effect”. “The effect of your sentence was negligible.”

      • media_lush

        the fail is strong in this one, lulz

        • q-bird

          wonderfully so! I love it when this dude shows up…

      • q-bird

        Well, that certainly is true for you Jillie… you busy guy you.

      • noseinabk

        Jillian aka Marco is an old poster and the misspelled words are deliberate. He knows exactly what he is doing. BTN, JP, Howdy and a few others long time posters will know him from the VV I think.
        He left a hint in a twitter link earlier in the comments.

        • coonellie

          Ohh…I remember Marco, yes I do. He has been in the Bunker a few times, but not for ages. Thanks, NIB, for the info :).

      • Couch_Incident

        Yeah, there’s just three of us being funded by Big Pharma to do this.

      • Couch_Incident

        Jillian, let me save you several hundreds of thousands of dollars and untold years of your time. The big cognition on OT8 is “I now know what I am not and am ready find out what I am.”

    • Missionary Kid

      Jillian, the troll is helping out. She’s got the Bunkerites having fun. She’s been following me around, giving me down-votes because I spoke truth to her. She actually thinks LRH was a scientist.

  • MisTRhi

    Oh and I love how it’s the woman who are giving this cult the much needed and extremely over due spanking of it’s life! More power to you Miss Remini and stay strong!!!

  • KJP in Portland

    Scientology is not a theology; therefore, they are not a church. USA needs to revoke their religious-exemption status. Only, then will significant inroads be made to hold those leaders accountable for all the crimes of the past several decades. For now, I sadly foresee that they will claim ‘religious persecution’, same as all the bona-fide religious persecutions of the world’s past. And with that in mind, we may still have a long road ahead, unless the government pulls the unwarranted and unfounded religious-exemption away from them.

    Once that happens? THAT’S how they’ll end up in a bunker (waiting for the Russians to flush them out) and the end will come…

  • Marti

    1,382 comments at 1:15 A.M. Friday morn.

    • Missionary Kid

      Jillian, our new favorite troll, is sure helping out. Thank her. She’s also the resident down-voter this evening.

      • coonellie

        I know, isn’t it awesome! My first down vote ever :). I’m so happy I could cry!

      • LaLa104

        Yippeeee! I think I’ve been down voted on every post tonite.. New RECORD!

        • LaLa104

          See… I feel so, so very special….

        • Missionary Kid

          Thank Xenu and Jillian. He’s (Jillian) been following me around, too.

          • q-bird

            yeah & I’ve been following {her}… went fishing today so it was kinda fun for me tonight to troll the troll but now I’m sleepy & must retire… goodnight bunerites!
            g’nite Jillian – it gets easier & easier to recognize you btw. Fun. thank you!

            • Marti

              Good night q-bird.
              Sweet dreams.

      • Robert Eckert

        I do not believe that Jillian is the downvoter.

        • SP ‘Onage

          I think it’s Laurisse. Lou, is that you?

        • Missionary Kid

          There’s actually two of them. Possibly another avatar of Jillian. I’ve gotten two down votes.

    • media_lush

      the OSA trolls just don’t get it…. editors of sites love comments and votes [whether up or down] and if they see a lot of feedback they’re going to keep with it and move people from what they were doing and onto this topic that generates interest…. I think Hollywood Reporter will be amazed at the amount of comments they received today [and the hilarious backtracking removal of some of them by the posters]. Congratulations downvoters, you’ve turned scientology into a “banker” as far as media sites are concerned…. you should be proud!

      • media_lush

        well done, and thank you…. I noticed that it took less than 5 seconds before I posted before I saw the downvote…. keep up the good work, lulz

        • Marti

          Yes media

          • Marti

            Jillian

            • Marti

              Jillian, you didn’t respond.

  • Glibby

    Front page of reddit. Awesome.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Thanks for the update Tony. So a police Officer, who doesn’t actually know the specifics of what happened, says the “detectives made contact with Shelly Miscavige”. That is much more vague than “They saw her in person”.

    I am very skeptical. I wouldn’t put it past the {church} to use up one of their LAPD assets to try to calm down the immediate media explosion by getting someone to issue this kind of vague report. Until exact specifics are available from the Detectives who made the contact, I’d classify it as unresolved.

    It is quite possible that they did see Shelly Miscavige and did proper procedure and Shelly did not express a desire to change her circumstances. She may believe that her only safety is to go with the status quo knowing only too well there may be no place beyond her husband’s reach. She may be quite happy where she is doing what she is doing. I don’t know.

    I think it is also possible that the detectives interviewed someone via phone or even in person who was posing as Shelly, done well enough that without fingerprints, or DNA or previous intimate experience with Shelly, they could be fooled.

    Miscavige has had weeks to arrange something if he predicted LEO might investigate.

    But the curious non-appearance of Shelly when the question was first asked, the extreme reaction to the question being asked and the diversion of having a lawyer attempt to answer for Shelly point to something else going on. When that many things don’t make sense, there is something being hidden. We may not know what it is for some time. It will be interesting or perhaps just another extremely dumb fumbling unnecessary footbullet that could easily have been avoided by having Shelly show up publicly and speak for herself.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      And thank you for the short comm lag on the downvote. It’s nice to know that all that training is being put to good use haunting a blog “on the fringes of the internet” so you can immediately downvote posts. Shouldn’t you be in session or supervising students or regging people for their next IAS status?

  • Marti

    Jillian, Are you still here?

    • Marti

      Your down vote means what? Please type.

      • Marti

        lol. Ok.

        • Marti

          Jillian, Take care.

  • AnyOldName1

    “Made contact”? That smacks of a Scion word game. Making contact with someone is quite different than meeting in person. Did they chat with “Shelly” on the phone? Maybe she dropped them an email? Posted on their Facebook page? Can the detective who “made contact” describe what she looked like? Did he/she get a photo with her? Inquiring mind wants to know.

    • AnyOldName1

      Well, of course – she tweeted Krusty for some of her abomindable magic potion. You know because Krusty is such a svelte specimen of good health.

      • AnyOldName1

        Shit! All I did was hit “post” and the down vote appeared each time -FASTER than the post showed up. MAGICAL!

        • Observer

          It’s that super effective Hubbard confront and shatter tech.

    • Robert Eckert

      They mean that they got another note from the lawyer, who pretends to be Shelly’s lawyer.

    • USA MRIID

      The LAPD spokesclam means “made contact” as in “using the powerz of muh mind!” telepathic contact.

  • Marti

    The blog is quiet now at 2:00 am. Aug 9

    • SP ‘Onage

      Some are commenting at The Hollywood Reporter.

      • Marti

        checking out thr HR… my cat wants to type for me

      • Cher

        It has gotten quiet there too

      • Marti

        The Los Angeles Police Department confirmed only that an investigation regarding Shelly (Michelle) Miscavige is ongoing,

        • Marti

          so, still ongoing?

  • Nevermore

    There’s something rotten in the state of LAPD, methinks…

    Edit – oooh, a downvote as soon as I posted – my first, I think! Thank you nameless $cibot! Or, do you have a name? Would you like us to call you something else?

  • dmscohb

    Are we living in America or not??? Leah wants to know if her friend is okay, and the best she receives from the police who spoke to her kidnapper’s lawyers is “case closed”? Holy shit bags, Batman!! This is just the start, FBI, who now need to pick up the case. Time to throw the doors WIDE open. No, this isn’t just about Shelly anymore. This is now about ALL the abuses by the CO$. FAIR GAME, BITCHES!!! You just pissed off the wrong group of SP’s. Until none of us have to post anonymously anymore – until we live again in a free country with freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom FROM religions, we won’t stop. DM – stick your finger in your ass and say good-bye. Your kind ain’t wanted round here no more! Release those you’ve kidnapped, now!!!

  • PHIL_KGb

    kirstie alley continues her passive-aggressive tweets against leah remini. she doesn’t have the guts to address her directly. i called her out on twitter and she blocked me. @kellygreenblog

    • Marti

      Ms. Alley is of no consequence.

      • PHIL_KGb

        at least now she’s finally making me laugh.

        • Observer

          Zing!

    • USA MRIID

      Oh noes! She blocked you?! How are you gonna scrape off your invisible murdered space alien fragments naow?

  • Jvm3

    Down vote this if you have overts and are out-ethics

    • EnthralledObserver

      Am I going to get on the cans and give details… HELL NO! I worked hard for those overts and intend to keep them around as long as possible! ;)

      • Jvm3

        You seem to be a very positive person. That will serve you well in the RPF!

        • EnthralledObserver

          Those very traits will keep me from even getting close to the RPF… and I’m genetically and environmentally passing them along to my children, who will in turn pass them along to theirs until no more fodder for clamdom can occur… ever again! :D

  • Marti

    Out of nowhere you appear. Are you the Scarlet Pimpernel after 2 AM brigade?

  • DodoTheLaser

    Scientology has some of the best lawyers in the world. They get paid best too.

    With that in mind, if Shelly is alive, which I believe she is, this “flap” is already taken care of.
    What police told to the media is a reflection of it.

    Like some people mentioned earlier here – it’s the media’s attention is what important at this point.
    And they are paying attention as never before.

    Thank you Leah, Tony and everyone who cares.

    I hope Shelly Miscavige will thank us all later.

    • Cher

      Amen!

    • USA MRIID

      “Scientology still has some of the best lawyers in the world”

      That would be Helena Kobrin and Ava Paquett. LOL!

  • media_lush

    I think this is hugely relevant right now LA Cops in Scientology’s pocket?]…… here’s the link to Tony’s recent piece

    http://tonyortega.org/2012/11/15/sheriff-lee-baca-handing-out-scientology-booklets/

    • DodoTheLaser

      Indeed. Thank you.

  • DodoTheLaser

    With all respect to the police, this should be brought to the attention of federal agents.

    FBI and better yet higher agencies. Scientology is a mind abuse game and a lot more.

    How many red flags would it take before the real investigative actions will be taken?

  • DodoTheLaser

    Dear scientologist/troll,

    Thank you for bravely joining the night crew here.

    Your single down vote pattern is noticed. It’s cute.

    Please tell all your friends to come here and join you in down voting the “entheta”.
    Oh wait, you don’t have friends.

    Or do you?

    ML, Dodo.

  • KNMF

    Mrs. Miscavige dropped out of sight for several years. Her friends are reprimanded when they ask about her.
    They are brow-beaten, punished and interrogated. All that, would lead anyone to think something fishy is going on. I hope Leah is able to put forth plainly the reasons for her concern about Miscavige’s wife.

    Most people don’t disappear. And most husbands don’t react defensively regarding the whereabouts of their spouses. Most religious leaders are able to carve a few minutes out of their year to answer a few simple questions from a curious public, about the religion they represent,

    Scientology is secretive and controversial. It begs a lot of questions, but to get answers you have to twist their arms and apply constant pressure. Good show, Leah.

  • DodoTheLaser

    I believe this is the most recent, most public Leah’s appearance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Dxhf6CRtY

    Only a few month ago on Jimmy Kimmel.

  • Xenuvius
    • DodoTheLaser

      Thanks for the update.

      And look at the comments most people make.
      Another PR win for the “church” of scientology. Not.

      Court of the public opinion can be one honest bitch.

      Apparently Leah Remini and Shelly Miscavige were close friends.

      Just one question: Why can’t Leah see/talk to Shelly?

      Worth of discussion.

  • Krew13

    This is seriously fucking sinister. It suggests the Sciloons have people in the LAPD. The fact it was closed so quickly just stinks.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Scilons have people in LAPD? Ha! You think?! No disrespect, Krew13.

      They have top lawyers in DC. Heard of Monique Yingling?

      Or Operation Snow White?

      Hubbard fulled a lot of people. Money do the rest.

    • USA MRIID

      Google “baca scientology” and get a good look at the Scientology racketeering.

  • Krew13

    Actress Karen Black has died of cancer. She was a Scientologist, sadly. And quite shockingly, she resorted to an online fundraiser to pay for treatment. All the money she must have wasted in donations to the Sciloons. Of course it goes without saying that being a member of the COS did fuck all to help her beat the cancer. Didn’t Jerry Maguire say vitamins and exercise cures cancer?

    • DodoTheLaser

      Yep. Very telling, ain’t it?

      Another “Clear/OT” gets betrayed by Hubbard’s Dianetics and Scientology.

      Empty promises. Counterfeit dreams. Hopefully not in vain.

      R.I.P. Karen Black.

      • Krew13

        The Sciloons would probably say her mistake was not donating a further $40,000 to take a few more courses to cure her cancer. Disgusting people.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Or just decide she’ll be better next lifetime and focus on their lame ass stats.

  • DodoTheLaser

    I’ll repeat the question – Why can’t Leah Remini see/talk to Shelly Miscavige?

    • aquaclara

      Hi, Dodo! Love your posts and links today/tonight. I want to see HOW they get through this mess now. I am going to send a note to the governor of California, reminding them that they covered up the circumstances of Lisa’s death and are known for hiding people for years. So why CAN’T LEAH see her friend? Just need a cup of coffee….and to wake up. It will be an interesting day, to be sure.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Copy that. :) Thank you, dear Aqua. Thank you so very much!
        You are truly setting a good example. Enjoy the coffee and put a little sugar in it.
        New good day, indeed.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Hubbard taught his particularly devoted followers to never defend and always attack critics of scientology, for they must have some heinous, unspicable crimes against humanity.

    How is that working out for you, cult?

  • Noah Miller

    1500 COMMENTS? DAMN.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Imagine what could happen if we all got paid for posting here. :)

      • Noah Miller

        Wait you’re not getting your checks from the psychs?

        • DodoTheLaser

          No. I worked for SMERSH. Them comrades are greedy.

          Psychs won’t return my calls.

          • Noah Miller

            Been considering putting a transfer in to Marcab myself. Hours are long, and you get kicked in the head a lot, but their sense of style– Any place that still sports the fedora as everyday wear is good in my book.

            Pay is supposed to be alright too.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Marcab is the way to go. Pay is ok and no routing forms.

            • i-Betty

              Laughing my head off at you both! I needed a laugh this morning :)

        • USA MRIID

          Drug companies! They pay a hell of a lot better than the Psychlos.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Imagine what could happen if we all got paid for posting here. :)

  • Guest

    This news gives me hope that Leah Remini will speak out someday instead of keeping everything private, which is remarkable given the fact that they probably have several kilograms of paper full of private thoughts of her written down on it.

    • Noah Miller

      Well she probably doesn’t have much we don’t know. Celebs are pretty cornered off. The whole reason she’s on the out is that she wasn’t allowed to know something– and that stunk to high heaven. There’s a reason they have a celebrity center while they keep the slaves at big blue and int.

  • Krew13

    By the way, does anyone know when the last time was a Sciloon stopped at a car accident to help out? You know, since Jack Reacher told us that’s what Sciloons do all day long.

    • Noah Miller

      They do it all the time, just blow themselves out the back of their heads, float on over and help out then fly back in without missing a beat. Easypeasy.

  • i-Betty

    My letter to the LAPD:

    I am writing from the United Kingdom regarding the leader of Scientology
    David Miscavige’s wife, Michelle ‘Shelly’ Miscavige. Those of us who have made
    it our business to expose the abuses of this frightening cult were so thrilled
    to hear that Leah Remini’s first act upon leaving the ‘church’ had been to file
    a missing person’s report about her friend.

    The phone lines and message boards across the UK were lighting up: finally
    someone would sit up and take notice. We’re aware that Scientology spend vast
    amounts of money to keep officials onside, but: “this is the LAPD!”, was our
    refrain. They aren’t going to allow this to be brushed under the carpet any
    longer.

    Well would you look at what happened? Carpet? Meet brush.

    Who actually made the decision? Because let me tell you; good police work
    doesn’t involve taking the word of a cult member that they are safe and well
    (brainwashing ring a bell?), or the word of the lawyers who are paid by her
    husband’s organisation, or – indeed – the word of said husband. None of them can
    be trusted to be impartial. An officer trained in cult behaviour should have
    been put on this case and it should have been handled sensitively and with great
    kindness and understanding towards Mrs Miscavige; someone who removed her from
    the orbit and influence of her handlers before questioning her
    fact-to-face would be a start.

    Shoddy, shoddy police work. You have short-changed Mrs Miscavige and Ms
    Remini, and I am ashamed of you.

    [name]
    United Kingdom

    • aquaclara

      Nice. Nice. Nice.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “An officer trained in cult behaviour should have been put on this case and it should have been handled sensitively and with great kindness and understanding towards Mrs Miscavige; someone who removed her from the orbit and influence of her handlers before questioning her fact-to-face would be a start.”

      Exactly like that.

      Thank you, Betty.
      Dear Feds, it’s your turn.

    • i-Betty

      I’m so angry and disappointed :(

      • DodoTheLaser

        Understood and felt. You are helping. Very much. Thank you!
        Cheer up, sister. :)

        • i-Betty

          Heehee, I love you, Dodo! :D

          Cheered up now.

      • Nevermore

        Betty, see if they have the equivalent of our IPCC over there, and copy the letter to them?

    • AnyOldName1

      Nice letter.

  • DodoTheLaser

    QFT

    “An officer trained in cult behaviour should have been put on this case
    and it should have been handled sensitively and with great kindness and
    understanding towards Mrs Miscavige; someone who removed her from the
    orbit and influence of her handlers before questioning her fact-to-face
    would be a start.” ~ i-Betty

    • AnyOldName1

      If they don’t have anyone trained in cult behavior, at the very least an officer trained in handling domestic abuse victims?

      • USA MRIID

        The LAPD maintains contractors who are highly trained in hostage negotiations, they could have found someone who knew what the bloody fuck they were doing. Inst4ead the LAPD just decided to follow Baca’s orders and not perform a welfare check, it seems possible.

  • Krew13

    Someone should’ve told the LAPD cop that David Miscavige is a black guy with a white girlfriend whom he’s been suspected of keeping locked up. Po-po would’ve stormed Sciloon HQ with all guns blazing.

    • DodoTheLaser

      No.

  • Noah Miller

    What do you want to bet it was a phone call? I mean it’s a two hour drive to Arrowhead, LAPD isn’t going to send anyone out there, unless they call it in to the locals. And I know for a fact that the cops aren’t welcome on the site so either she met them at the gate or it was a phone call.

    I guess they could have driven her into LA but I find that unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely.

    And if it was a phone call wouldn’t it be easy to impersonate her? Or have ten people standing around her just in case? I’m sure she’s a true believer and wouldn’t say anything anyway but still… It seems WAY too quick.

    • Commentstars

      how things “seem” to you about people you do not know and are not involved in is important to who?

      just you and other like minded people who assign huge importance to their conspiracy theories and musings

      • Noah Miller

        Apparently it’s important enough for you to show up and chat about it. Commentstars, would you care to explain why I shouldn’t find it important when multiple people claim to be kept in slave labor conditions (including a 8 month pregnant woman doing manual labor, locked in a cage in a garage every night) and then the leader of this religion’s wife goes missing, even unreachable by the most public of members?

        If you don’t find that important, involved or not, and don’t muse about it at least a little bit, then there’s something wrong with you.

        • Commentstars

          Noah Miller, You are such a concerned humanitarian, so concerned about people you do not know from adam’s well being……um where you at about the 15 million children who die a year, year after year, unnecessarily, of starvation …just curious?

          • Noah Miller

            What about the people kept locked in at night under big blue, they’re a stones throw away from me. And hell yeah, they’re both problems. Do you think that I should stop caring that Sea Org children are being kept from their families and shipped around the country as child slaves, until world hunger is solved?

            The world is capable of solving more than one problem at one time.

            • Noah Miller

              Should scientology get a pass from abusing it’s devotees just because there are people starving? Just curious.

            • Commentstars

              do you still beat your wife?

              answer that before I answer your string of ridiculous loaded questions

            • Noah Miller

              Oh looks like OSA got to you again. Damn… Offer still stands dude. 100K a year.

          • Noah Miller

            Well that was over quick, thanks for stopping by. Say hello to your OSA handler for me. Oh and I make this offer to all the suspected Scibots, for a cool 100k a year I’ll not only stop commenting but be an invaluable resource about the mindset of a critic :).

            Run it up the flag pole for me would ya?

          • Whoknew

            So starving children are a fact and not a conspiracy, but the abuses of a particular group are a different ballgame (children and starvation are part of that too)?

            Do you berate everyone on their chosen charities? If we are not discussing doctors without borders or some other group enough for you here, there are plenty of other sites dedicated to other sad and worthy causes. There are plenty of facts to back up our concerns, and many of the posters here have lived the hell they speak about and have educated guesses about what others are going through.

      • USA MRIID

        ROFL! You have the IQ of a Republican. :)

        • Commentstars

          gobbledygook

          • Nevermore

            And the communication skills of said Republican!

    • USA MRIID

      Standing around her with the electrodes firmly embedded and their finger hovering over the button.

    • Nevermore

      Some of the reports are saying that LAPD met with her – but I don’t know if that’s what LAPD actually said, or if it’s just the TV reporters saying what they assumed happened.

  • Snuzey

    I’m feeling very much short-changed by that LAPD ‘statement’. Don’t believe a word.
    Boss of LAPD: “So who wants to look into finding Shelly Miscavige?”
    All the LAPD Scibots: “Me me me me me me me me!!!!!”
    Half an hour later…
    Scibot police: “Sir we’ve made contact. She’s not missing. *shuffles notes in pockets* errr…. he says, I mean she says she’s fine. it’s….. ummm….. unfounded, that’s it! Tell the media!!”
    Submits stats for the week (it was Thursday after all).

    • i-Betty

      Yes!

    • USA MRIID

      Bet you 10 cents it was Sheriff Baca that squashed the inquiry.

  • Commentstars

    You all are NUTS. Right up there with the kooks who say Obama’s birth certificate was fake and that the US blew up the world trade centre. You, like all fanatical conspiracy theorist funnel all information to promote whatever irrational point of view your group think has bought into. Yes the CO$ might be an extreme and odd bunch of ducks with extreme practices under the umbrella of a so called “religion” but y’all are suppose to be the sane ones? LOL! I don’t think so. Y’all appear to be out of your minds and in Don Quixote territory.

    “I’m feeling very much short-changed by that LAPD ‘statement’”

    Um ….who cares? Does the world or the LAPD or Shelly Misgavige or anybody owe you anything? You sense of entitlement is just bizarre.

    “What do you want to bet it was a phone call?”

    And you know this how?

    • Robert Eckert

      Welcome to the Bunker! Be sure to read the whole comment before posting.

    • KNMF

      American taxpayer subsidize Scientology. The secretive organization is led by David Miscavige, a man who acts and reacts suspiciously and defensively to the simplest questions and inquiries, as a matter of course.
      Hundreds of charges are made against Scientology every year, and they come from all over the world, from independent complainants. Many formerly healthy people have died while under the watch of Miscavige’s church and its front groups.

      When the wife of this strange, little religious leader, disappears, and when all communication to her is seemingly cut, it is perfectly normal that the public would be concerned. People have a right to ask, and reason to doubt the shady. cynical non-answrs that come from scientology sources.

      Miscavige leads a cult with a documented history of deception and crime.

    • jonzot

      So is this Kirstie? Or wee little Davie himself?

      • Commentstars

        just another windmill for you to tilt at

        • Noah Miller

          You know the moral of that story was that tilting at windmills is a good thing. It was an example of unbridled idealism. Quixotism is a hero, who is a hero, even when he’s too old and addled to be anything else.

          • Commentstars

            delusional

          • USA MRIID

            You are attempting to explain the real world to Kirstie Alley. You know you’re doomed to fail. Right?

        • shasha40

          Sounds more like hot air ….

      • USA MRIID

        It has Kirstie Alley’s IQ. My bet is it’s one of Kirstie Alley’s Body Thetans.

    • i-Betty

      Silly billy :)

    • Noah Miller

      I don’t know it, I guessed, I was clear about it being a guess. It was based off my knowledge of the socal geography, the amount of time that had passed, my previous experience with the LAPD and SB Mountain police who know many members of. And my previous dealings with the church. It was an educated bit of speculation.

      Which is why it was phrased as “What do you want to bet.”

      Bet implying a question of chance.

      Just in case you needed every word spelled out, you’re welcome.

    • shasha40

      We choose to be here and like the company. By the way, with Freedom you too can choose to leave this blog at any time , unless of course , this is your hat at COS…..

    • USA MRIID

      Oh yeah! Well then, just where the fuck IS OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!!112?

      Checkmate, cunt! It’s your move.

      • Commentstars

        oh no , you win. I submit to your genius

        • USA MRIID

          Exactly, cunt! When I tell you insane Scientology loons to bend over, ya better well fucking bend over.

  • Bob Gravlin

    I am sure COB will trot out Shelly on some auspicious occasion, flanked by handlers on all sides, just like the Chi Comms or the Koreans did with their prisoners or Stalin’s henchman did with the victims of the gulag to show their benevolence in how kind they are to their prisoners and yet tightly controlled lest anything goes wrong in the public show. How fearful CO$ is of freedom, openness and truth.

    • Commentstars

      a convenient theory for conspiracy theorists

      • jonzot

        Commenstars, how much money have you personally paid the church of scientology?

        Are you aware that all of your “auditing” sessions are being video-recorded and audio-recorded so if you ever grow a pair and stand up to your masters, everything about your personal life will be exposed?

        • Commentstars

          0

          No clue what you are talking about

          your addiction to flinging around that incomprehensible jargon is staggering

          • jonzot

            The people who spend their $ on the CO$ “choose” to spend their $ as they wish?!!! Are you serious?!

            Are you unaware of the BRUTAL fundraising tactics of this organization?!!!

            Members are harassed (to the point of madness) to empty their bank accounts (and beyond) to satisfy this “church.” Get a clue!

            • Commentstars

              our society is set up to squeeze $ out of each other – buy a large pop corn for .25 cents more – it is how we have it set up

              AND we all have a choice and have the power to say “stuff your supersized popcorn for just .25 cents more , thank-you”.

          • jonzot

            And you didn’t answer my question about your auditing. You are being videotaped and audiotaped every single time you hold those cans! Were you aware of that?

    • USA MRIID

      “…flanked by handlers on all sides…”

      And a leash around her neck. “Come, my previous!”

  • Cat Daddy
  • Miles Cumminski

    I am just loving that the money hungry cult of Scientology is now a lead story on the evening news. They (the cult)continue to get horrible press, then respond by attacking Leah and her family who come across as victims in this whole saga making the cult look like awful bullies. I love that the general public is now getting so interested in the goings on of this criminal organization. The whole world will know about Scientology’s fancy empty buildings and quickly dwindling membership. I cannot wait for Leah’s book! (yours to Tony O)

  • USA MRIID

    Normally missing people complaints are dismissed without any movement by law enforcement if the people filing the claims are not family or otherwise significant. Remini would not be considered to be a good friend of Shelly or would be judged to have any significant role, she would be considered an uninvolved, so I’m very surprised that the LAPD even bothered to check.

    As for the LAPD claiming to have “contacted Shelly,” I wonder who answered the phone and pretended to be Shelly. I can’t see the insane dwarf allowing Shelly to answer a real door anywhere to talk with police.

    • Commentstars

      It is not unreasonable to say that internet people basically nobody in the matter of this woman “Shelly Misgavige” and her real adult life – you internet people could not be more removed or further away and uninvolved from the situation, just “trolls” in the internet peanut gallery ……..and comment section readers are suppose to doubt the police who were actually involved and buy into one word or imagining you have to say? This makes sense to you? Holy wacky times we are living in batman!

      So many brilliant all knowing experts about life and experts about other people on the internet. God Bless Bill Gates and Steve Jobs for creating this virtual reality in their mother’s basements that people can confuse for the real world.

  • Barbara Evans

    get em Leah rotten space nazis
    btw iam serious about the nazi thing
    read battlefield earth dont buy the dam thing borrow it
    from the lib.
    towards the middle of the book you will see what i mean
    sorry its a long winded dry crap read
    ill give you a hint HITLER

  • USA MRIID

    –ring ring–

    Hello?

    Um yeah, may I speak with Shelley Miscaviage?

    Who’s calling?

    Los Angeles Policy Department.

    Oh. Hang on. Wait a minute. I’ll go get her.

    –whispers
    heard– (he wants to speak with Shelley! ah hell, what do we do now?
    let’s load all the money in to the back of the car and run for it! no
    wait, i have a better idea!)

    Hello, this is Shelley. How may I help you?

    Yeah, Los Angeles Police Department claling. Are you alive?

    Um yes. Yes I’m alive. Anyone who says otherwise is a Fifth Invaider agent working for Xenu!

    Ah, thank you. Bye now.

    Bye bye, officer.

    • Commentstars

      Only in your paranoid conspiracy theorist wet dreams. What you bizarre conspiracy theorist imagine and propagate to further your agenda on the web and what has become a hobby for you, the real world will never be the same thing

      • USA MRIID

        I’m surprised that David let you access the Internet from your hole down there in Hemet, Sarah! Neat!

        • Commentstars

          horsesh_t

  • Paul

    I really wonder what Tom Cruise responds to his non-scientology friends when they asks him politely “Hey Tom? Do you happen to know whats up with this Shelly Miscavige thing going around the media?”.
    And don’t tell me he doesn’t have any friends who ask him such questions, because hey, if he doesn’t, he’s really stuck.

    • Commentstars

      Tom Cruise, a very busy person, probably does not tolerate people who are involved in hearsay and gossip and who try and drag him into it, what busy person would? Just like anyone of us would not tolerate such BS. So my guess he would look at them and ask “what the f-ck are you talking about? Go away”, same was as any one of us would deal with such knuckleheads.

      • jonzot

        Oh man… Kirstie deleted all of her posts. That is so not KSW.

        • Nevermore

          Glad you pointed that out – I was beginning to wonder if a lot of people went a bit crazy here last night – missing posts would explain why they’re apparently talking to themselves! ;-)

    • USA MRIID

      Cruise likely has no actual friends, certainly no “non Scientology” customer friends.

      • Commentstars

        And you know this how? Just a brilliant opinion you have, or do you have some direct connection to Tom Cruise’s social network?

        • USA MRIID

          No Scientology customer that is protected and kept from learning what the crime syndicate does to its lower-donating rubes, marks, and suckers has any friends. None. Look at that fucking insane Kirstie Alley, a dimwitted class “D” actor who ran out of money.

    • LaLa104

      Well Cruise being the second BIG BEINGNESS next to Mismanage probably gets on his tippy toes and screams at anyone that questions him about her screaming in his best girly voice; ” YOU DON’T HAVE THE FUCKING RANK TO ASK ABOUT SHELLY”!

  • Gary Ewing

    Give ‘em hell, Leah~!

  • Commentstars

    What is hilarious ( to me) is how you and this silly actress who wants to write a book and make $ off of a sensational story, all really do come out looking like asses in this instance AND the best you can come up with is trying to cast doubt on the LAPD, or speculate that Shelly Misgavige was brainwashed or a bunch of other cockamamie wild unproven notions.

    And not one of you says:

    “you know what guys? , we are a bunch of retards obsessed with another persons life that is none of our business!”

    You true believers just keep on plugging alone. No matter what happens, you sheep will just do what all nutty conspiracy theorists do, ignore facts, funnel it back into your own pre-existing point of view, be irrational as possible, and just accuse anyone who does agree with your fanatical baseless theories as being part of the con. or not as savvy as your little internet cult.

    Talk about a b-i-z-a-r-r-e group of true believers. You believe each others garbage no matter how blatantly kookoo it obviously is.

  • DamOTclese2

    I should have invested in popcorn. I can’t hit REFRESH fast enough. :) How is it possible that a small corporation with fewer customers than my local doughnut shop that pretends to be in favor of human rights, pretends it’s “the most ethical company on the planet,” keep ending up being widely exposed in the mainstream media having to constantly explain where their owners/operators/wives have mysteriously disappeared to?

  • Sydjazz

    Leah well done. Even if lapd stopped investigating. Which is weird