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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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WATCH: The 10-minute video of Scientology stalking Monique Rathbun in 2010

TxPolice2On February 3, Monique Rathbun’s attorneys produced surprise evidence in her harassment lawsuit against the Church of Scientology and its leader, David Miscavige.

That was the first day of a crucial hearing regarding Scientology’s “anti-SLAPP” motion. A week earlier, Scientology had been ordered to turn over any evidence it had in the form of video or photographs produced in the church’s years-long surveillance of Monique and her husband Mark ‘Marty’ Rathbun. As a result of that order, the church turned over a terabyte of video on an external drive, with hours and hours of surveillance footage.

Despite the volume of that evidence, Monique’s attorneys came to court on February 3 with a surprise. One of the segments of video that the church turned over was about a minute and a half long, had no audio track, and showed Monique Rathbun being filmed pulling into her driveway.

Monique’s attorney, Ray Jeffrey, told Comal County Judge Dib Waldrip that they had their own source for that particular segment, and it was 10 minutes long, contained an audio track, and showed that police were called to the location, and included Scientology’s videographers struggling to explain why they were following Monique, a woman who had never been a member of the Church of Scientology.

It was a damning revelation. When they submitted the 10-minute version of the video, Monique’s attorneys showed definitively that Scientology was selectively holding back evidence that might be harmful to its case. Judge Waldrip dressed down Scientology’s attorney, Ricardo Cedillo, telling him that it was his job to turn over everything the church was asked for, and not to edit it.

Now, we have that 10-minute video that Scientology apparently didn’t want the court to see.

We’ve already seen some Internet misinformation about the video, and when a small portion of it was shown on a San Antonio television station recently, it wasn’t really explained very well, so we want to make sure our readers understand what they’re seeing.

The video you’re going to see was shot in 2010, in Ingleside by the Bay, Texas, where Marty and Monique Rathbun were living at a house on Woodhaven Drive. (This was before they moved into another house in Ingleside by the Bay where the “Squirrel Busters” first confronted them in April 2011.)

At the very beginning of the video, we see a brief moment with Marty Rathbun and a law enforcement officer after they had confronted Scientology’s videographers. Then the video cuts, and the church’s hired men are positioned outside the Rathbun driveway, filming as Monique arrives. She then calls the police, and most of the segment shows the hired operatives trying to convince a cop that they are making a “documentary.”

 

 
What the video doesn’t show is that while Monique was on her own at the Woodhaven Drive home, Marty Rathbun had been with Mike Rinder, Christie Collbran, and John Brousseau as they were meeting with BBC reporter John Sweeney, who was in town making his 2010 Panorama film, “The Secrets of Scientology.” It was a followup to his 2007 Panorama episode, “Scientology and Me.”

The Scientology-hired videographer and his partner tell a local police officer that they are working for Elliot Abelson and with a private investigator named Monty Drake (who today is a defendant in Monique’s lawsuit). Elliot Abelson is a longtime lawyer for the church.

We’ve posted this video in the past, but we’ll show it again — when Mike Rinder was interviewed by Mark Bunker, he said that operatives were trained to say they were working for Abelson, when they were really getting their orders directly from church officials…

 

 
The video of Monique was filmed about a year before the Squirrel Busters showed up and started doing daily protests outside the home of the Rathbuns. But the point Monique’s team wants to make with this video is that there is no “free speech” fight going on here. It was made by an odd organization that was paying lawyers, private investigators, videographers and other operatives to stalk the wife of a former member — a women who had never said anything publicly about Scientology.

We look forward to hearing your impressions of the video.

Judge Dib Waldrip has the next 29 days to come up with a decision regarding Scientology’s anti-SLAPP motion. The church has tried to convince him that it is engaged in a war of ideas with Marty Rathbun, and that its years of surveilling him and his wife were legitimate forms of free speech. Monique, who was never a member of the church, argues that she didn’t deserve to go through years of being stalked with cameras, interrupted at her work, and pursued as she moved several times across the state. Our experts have pointed out numerous times that an anti-SLAPP motion is a tool used to fend off the bullying actions of a well-heeled plaintiff, and its use in this case is highly ironic, given Scientology’s reputation for well-heeled bullying.

As we wait for Waldrip’s decision, we’re expecting that Ray Jeffrey, Monique’s attorney, may re-file a motion for sanctions. Otherwise, the additional issues in the case — an order allowing Monique Rathbun to depose church leader David Miscavige, jurisdictional questions about Miscavige’s request to be dropped from the suit, and converting the temporary restraining order into a temporary injunction — will continue to be on hold until the anti-SLAPP motion is resolved.

Also, as we expected he would, Scientology’s attorney Wallace Jefferson (formerly the chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court) on Friday filed a petition for a writ of mandamus, hoping to derail Judge Waldrip’s order that David Miscavige could be deposed. We’re waiting to see if the Texas Third Court of Appeals will allow the petition and grant Jefferson the ability to file for the writ. We’re checking with Ray Jeffrey today to see what he knows about it. (There is a large file of documents that Scientology filed with the appeals court — but it’s mostly stuff we posted earlier.)

For the curious, here’s the filing Scientology submitted in support of its petition. If you’ve been following the case, you’ll be familiar with the declarations filed by Allan Cartwright, Warren McShane, etc. There is a transcript of one of the hearings which we reported on, and now you can read Ricardo Cedillo’s mind-numbing detail for yourself…

 

Monique Rathbun v Scientology, Petition for writ of mandamus Supporting documents

 
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  • Observer

    I expect Judge Waldrip to take the full amount of time allotted to make his decision. I think he’s going to be very careful to not hand Scientology legitimate grounds for an appeal. That won’t stop them from appealing, of course, but hopefully it will make them less likely to win that appeal.

    • RMycroft

      Apparently the first appeal is already at the starting gate, with lots of stuff hitting the docket along with Legal Documents of Unusual Size.

      https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/to-mosey-rathbun-files-multi-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-cos-for-harassment.113178/page-62#post-2421537
      http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?34945-Breaking-Rathbun-v-Miscavige-Defendants-Filed-In-Appeals-Court-Feb-14-2014

      As I recall, from my Internet legal education, writs of mandamus are rare in Texas, and tend to be seen as a slap in the face to the court.

      • Observer

        Why am I not surprised? Scientology is so dreadfully predictable.

        • RMycroft

          CoS standard legal practice. It’s a Rite of Miscavige.

          • Observer

            I just hope it doesn’t lead to one of these. *Refresh*

            • WildaBeast

              *screams and runs away*
              *laughs from a safe distance*

            • Sherbet

              One of my faves, Obs.

            • Eclipse-girl

              He looks really nice with the white collar over on the right.

            • Great White Clam

              He does look a little more self-satisfied in that over on the right, doesn’t he?
              But. Ummm. I think that could be a lace bib.
              He could have just got back from HB.

              No time to take it off.

            • joan nieman

              Now that is just awesome OBS! Perfect shoop.

      • Great White Clam

        Writs of Mandamus are rare everywhere according to my investigations conducted also on the internet.

        • RMycroft

          Maybe it’s a typo? With CoS, I’d expect a Writ of Malodorous.

          • Great White Clam

            heh
            Or Writs of Malevolence.

            • Observer

              Or Writs of Mendacity.

            • RMycroft

              CoS lawyers have a lot in common with fire ants, so they have filed Mandibles?

            • EnthralledObserver

              Writ of Audacity…

            • valshifter

              Writ of Mundane-mus

            • Great White Clam

              Writs of Footbullet

            • Troy MacGyver SP

              Writ of Ass-hat

            • RMycroft

              You put your writ full in,
              You put your write full out.
              You put your writ full in, and shake it all about.
              You do the Mandamus, and give a little shout.
              That’s what it’s all about!

            • chukicita

              Sounds like a Writ of Miscavige.

          • valshifter

            Writ of Stinkeros, “I love lucy”

        • spos

          writ-ten out of history

        • TX Lawyer

          Not rare in Texas.

        • Keeping Scientology Waning

          I believe it is also known in legal circles as Writ of Manamianass.

        • Gus_Cox

          A Writ of Butthurt.

      • TX Lawyer

        Mandamus is a common and unexceptional proceeding in Texas. The odds of success are still long, but it is a well established vehicle for obtaining review of a a trial court’s interlocutory (i.e., before the end of the entire case) ruling when that ruling may not be effectively challenge after the entire case is over at the trial court (e.g., when the issue will be moot because Miscavige’s deposition will have already been taken). This is a long shot because I can’t imagine that the appellate judges will give a damn if a deposition takes place here, but it’s not impossible. Trial judges also tend to take them in stride, unless they’re patently frivolous. This one is probably not as bad as that.

        • RMycroft

          Thank you. Still, I can’t imagine that Judge Waldrip thinks much of it. I’m sure that in private (after checking for CoS snoops), he has to vent loud WTFs and laughter from time to time.

        • anonsparrow

          Sorry to chime in with an out-of-place question here, but I was wondering if there’s any indication that Wallace Jefferson stepped down from Superior Court so that he could participate in this trial, or was it coincidental?

          It obviously looks fishy, only because it involves Scientology, but I haven’t read anything definitive about his move one way or the other. Anybody heard anything?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            He is quoted as saying he stepped down for financial motivation, mentioning two children he needed to put through college.

            • anonsparrow

              thank you THDNE.. where did he say this?

            • chukicita
            • TheHoleDoesNotExist
            • KNMF

              Welp, done and done. Now time to pay for the ski lodge.

            • Silence of the Clams

              the college of Applied Scholastics I assume?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              The thought crossed my mind. Let’s hope his children have learned the art of googling.

            • joan nieman

              Greed overtook all morals. A once respected member of society stoops low and remains there. What a way to retire from a career. Shameful.

            • TX Lawyer

              “Once,” as in “formerly”? I assure you, that’s not even remotely the case. If anything, folks should be glad that someone like Jefferson is leading the appeals. I would expect him to be aggressive and to push hard in some uphill battles, but Jefferson is not the type to pursue bad faith appeals or push frivolous arguments. He will not simply be a tool for his client, unlike the church’s regular cast of legal flunkies.

            • joan nieman

              I think we are both talking about a different subject.

            • Cat Daddy
            • TX Lawyer

              His reputation is sterling, and it will continue to be that way long after this lawsuit is over. And while I’m sure he’ll make plenty on this representation, there just aren’t enough billable hours in the day to enable anyone to retire on the appellate work in this case. But if his sons all manage to get their college educations paid for at excellent universities, I won’t complain.

          • Betsy

            I’ve been wondering about that too. Thanks for posting the question.

          • TX Lawyer

            He announced he was stepping down only a couple weeks after Monique’s lawsuit was filed, and before the defendants’ answers to the petition were even due to be filed. Given that he apparently already had a deal in place to join Alexander Dubose Townsend — and I assure you, it would have taken plenty of business negotiations before such a deal could be worked out — that’s just too little time to seriously conclude that he quit because there was a potentially lucrative case waiting to be appealed. Plus, despite the regular casting of aspersions on the guy around here, Wallace Jefferson was a fine, ethical, and upstanding judge. Seriously, Jefferson is a straight shooter. Just because he’s taking on a lucrative representation of a bad guy will not change that.

        • t1kk

          My sense is that they’re similar to an Article 78 action in New York, which are common enough but also rarely granted.

          • TX Lawyer

            I wouldn’t call it rare for a mandamus petition to be granted here. More like “Oh, somebody got a manamus” rather than “Oh my god, somebody actually got a mandamus!”

    • Juicer77

      I keep hoping that Jefferson (fmr chief TX Supreme Court judge) got involved because he wants an airtight case when the inevitable appeals begin post-conviction. On the other hand he might be just another brain-for-hire with no scruples. Sigh…

      • Eclipse-girl

        Wallace got involved to make money. He left the court saying he needed to earn $ to pay for the college education of his children.

        • Juicer77

          * hangs head *

        • Juicer77

          Oh great, take the blood money and get an Ivy League education. I guess community college wouldn’t be an option for the status-conscious.

        • anonsparrow

          Hi EG. Where did you get this info?

      • Observer

        Wallace Jefferson is working for Scientology. His brother Lamont is representing David Miscavige in this case.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I thought Wallace was hired for DM and the RTC, also.

          • TX Lawyer

            Both of them are counsel for DM and RTC. CSI and the other defendants have separate counsel because they’re totally not all the same thing. No, really!

            • Eclipse-girl

              TY.

        • Juicer77

          No, you got it, and I had forgotten about his brother. As a noob I am still learning the depths and reach of the cherch’s influence. So insidious. I can’t imagine how these folks fight this in their daily lives day after day.

      • Toni m

        Sorry……. but HE IS another brain-for-hire with no scruples.

      • http://www.tumblr.com/blog/scientoonery Natalia M
  • EnthralledObserver

    So, they wanted footage of Marty arriving home… yet film Monique.
    You could tell that police officer didn’t believe them, or that it was simply a few minutes of harmless footage… unfortunately no laws were being broken that he could see.
    I don’t understand why more of these people, who’s names keep coming up in connection with all this stalking and so forth, like Eliot Ableson, and ALL the other squirrel busters, aren’t also named in the suit. There’d be way more under bus throwing then!

    • Espiando

      Actually, putting the SBs in as defendants would have been a bad move. This would have added substantiation to the line that Team Scilon eventually ended up taking, namely that the SBs were simple parishoners who were oh, so offended that Marty Luther Rathbun was daring to practice Scientology without church sanction, so they decided to protest against him. And putting a lawyer in as a defendant in a suit is just asking for trouble.

      Team Mosey Stayed On Target when it came to the defendants, and the payoff is going to be so much bigger that if it had been simply the SBs. Notice how the SBs were brushed off in the discussions. If they’d been defendants, they would have gummed up the works. And the Promised Land, the Demented Midget deposed, is in sight.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I am no legal mind… I defer to the greats – thank you, Espi!

      • Eclipse-girl

        Isn’t the lawsuit about what happened Monique after she moved to a rural home in Comal County?
        The SBs were never at that home.

        The Rathbuns moved away, to avoid the harassment, intimidation, etc and then found spy cameras aimed at their home, on their neighbors property. Their neighbors never knew or approved of those cameras. Isn’t that when Drake moved in next door after clear cutting the tree to move a trailer close to the property line?

        • Espiando

          That wasn’t Monty Drake who moved in next door. That was Steve/Greg Sloat, one of the other defendants.

          The SBs are pertinent because it establishes not only a pattern of abuse, but that resources are being expended to continue said abuse. Your line of thought is what Monty Drake is trying to establish: since he wasn’t involved in the abuse in Comal County, he shouldn’t be a defendant. Team Mosey is trying to argue that the abuse was continuous and that the venue is appropriate regardless of location in Texas.

          • Eclipse-girl

            I know why IT is extremely important to establish a long pattern of harassment, surveillance etc.

            The abuse was continuous and more invasive because it was done by professional spy cameras. and then the creep Sloat (TY for the correction) who moved next door, even though that lot was large and if he wanted “privacy” to write a book, he would not have moved the trailer to the property line shared with the Rathbuns.

            Just was saying the Rathbuns have stated why the didn’t pursue the Squirrel Busters.

      • Tony Ortega

        John Allender, a Squirrel Buster, and Dave Lubow, the PI who ran the Squirrel Busters, are both defendants in the case.

        • Espiando

          I knew Lubow was brought into the case, but I know Allender wasn’t. Wasn’t it the other Squirrel Buster, the one who isn’t Allender or Psycho Lady, whose name escapes me?

          • Tony Ortega

            Sorry, it’s Ed Bryan who was added as a defendant, not Allender. Here’s the full list:

            David Miscavige, RTC, CSI, Steven Gregory Sloat (outside, non-licensed spy), Monty Drake (Dallas PI), David Lubow (longtime church PI), Ed Bryan (Squirrel Buster)

        • Eclipse-girl

          Who hired Dave Lubow? Or has evidence yet to be provided?

          • Tony Ortega

            Lubow already submitted a declaration. Said he was working for CSI.

            • Eclipse-girl

              The corporation that already been thrown under the bus, IIRC.

    • RMycroft

      And Marty is meeting with the dreaded John Sweeney… yet they film Monique.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Exactly!

      • Espiando

        As EO said, exactly. And it really becomes clear once you realize that it wasn’t only Marty. It was Marty, JB, and the now Die Rindercouple. Four dangerous and recently-blown (in 2010 terms) SPs meeting with a journalist who’d already done them serious damage, and they film Mosey? Please, please, let someone on Team Mosey ask this question in open court.

        • aquaclara

          Imagine the possibility of John Brousseau, Michael Bennitt, Mike and Christie Rinder, and John Sweeney all sitting with Monique in the courtroom while Davey gets deposed.

          Just imagine that deliciousness.

          • Espiando

            I know the one thing that would make it even more delicious. Marty invites a special guest to stay with him for the trial and attend the deposition: Pat Broeker.

            • aquaclara

              :)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              There aren’t enough adult diapers in all of Texas.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              That would be the cherry on top of the icing!

      • WildaBeast

        Because, of course, that makes so much sense in terms of getting good material for the {documentary}.
        Also, there are at least three close-ups of Mosey’s ass in that 10-minute segment. Come ON, people! Creepers, just friggin’ creepers.

        • RMycroft

          And now they’re taking creepy pictures of children as part of their religious rights. Sure that’ll fly–straight down and vertical!

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      I don’t know what laws exist in Texas about stalking/filming/hidden cameras etc. Because of the proliferation of hidden CCTV cameras in public areas, I would imagine the act of filming someone from a public street is therefore not illegal. However, the fact that they say they’re ‘making a documentary’ and then claim the people don’t know they’re being filmed – that’s the giveaway. Because they can’t use the footage in the documentary without permission (they obviously didn’t have news or press credentials.)

      Their shore story itself is what is going to doom them in court, IMHO.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Now you know.

        Rolling down the window finally made sense when I read the law. You can’t call it a “hidden” camera if it’s in full view.

        • PoisonIvyHerself

          Will you be my entertainment attorney, Derek? xo

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            HAHA me an attorney? Can you imagine. I’d make a mockery of the whole system by pointing out how it makes a mockery of itself.

      • joan nieman

        That is an excellent fact Poison. Another fact is that they have been filming for years. When is the deadline for the film supposed to be? When will it be aired? On what program? I suppose they never thought they would have to take it that far. They will have to conjure more lies to cover the previous lies. ” And so on and so forth…”.

  • BosonStark

    The guy in the Scientology spy SUV tells the police officer that he is making a documentary and just there to get a shot of Marty as he comes home, and then they’ll leave. After saying that, he proceeds to take MORE footage of Monique, both in the driveway and then while she’s talking to the officer. Doesn’t that kind of hurt their credibility?

    Also, if they are just making a documentary, why would a “private investigator” be involved who was hired by an attorney, or is “documentary” the proper term for when an attorney hires a PI to get video footage in relation to some potential legal case?

    • Sidney18511

      The entire “documentary” explanation is just COS’s shore story.

      • BosonStark

        I understand that. I mean the real point was to make Marty’s life and anyone in it a living Hell. They also hoped to provoke him enough to slug someone, or do something he would get in real trouble for. Monique was obviously a vulnerability for Marty, and they kept exploiting this hoping that he would lose his temper. By doing it this way, that’s what constitutes harassment I would say.

        I guess in court, they are claiming it was surveillance over religious and trademark disputes but I know if they’ve dropped the documentary pretext completely.

        • PoisonIvyHerself

          Yep. “Noisy Investigation.” Drive them insane.
          Evil fuckers.

        • 1subgenius

          Protecting business interests (copyright), documentary, peaceful protest.
          No, they’re keeping them all.
          What could possibly go wrong?

      • RMycroft

        If they’re forced to cough up the full and unedited footage, it will document their harassment. D’OH!

  • Great White Clam

    I should know this, but exactly what is happening in New Braunfels today?

    • Tony Ortega

      They’re not in court today. No hearings scheduled for now. Waiting for Waldrip to rule on anti-SLAPP, and watching the petition that Wallace Jefferson filed in an appeals court on Friday.

      • EnthralledObserver

        What petition in appeals court was that one? Did you mention that above?

        • aquaclara

          Read down in the comments….

          • EnthralledObserver

            Are those the links RMyCroft shared? I haven’t got around to reading them yet.

            • Espiando

              They’re 350 pages or so. Just wanted to warn you.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Won’t be tonight then… haha…
              Thanks!

            • Tony Ortega

              It’s all stuff we posted a long time ago.

      • Great White Clam

        Thx.

      • Observer

        I hope Wallace is enjoying his swim in Scientology’s moral sewage.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Scum doesn’t swim. It floats.

          • Cat Daddy

            like turds

        • Xenuvius

          I’m sure Wallace congratulates himself on his good fortune with the same enthusiastic glee as a lotto winner. Doubtful that anyone in his circle has even heard of Co$. Wallace is doing his best slimeball grin all the way to the bank…cha ching!!

          His moral compass is no different than DM’s. It points one way…to the $$$.

    • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

      Not much in terms of court room action. Dunno if this has already been linked to here at the Bunker but the cult has filed a Petition for writ of mandamus with the Court Of Appeals (Third District of Texas) along with a bunch of new paperwork you can plough through if you’re missing the legal angle.

      Looks like moar classic Scientology perversion of the judicial process to drag out the case for as long as possible. In reading up on the writ of mandamus it would appear to be a tactic which can be stretched as far as SCOTUS. One definition of the term, has this to say about the application of the writ . . .

      . . . The Supreme Court set forth some guidelines on writs of mandamus in Kerr v. United States District Court, 426 U.S. 394, 96 S. Ct. 2119, 48 L. Ed. 2d 725 (1976). In Kerr, the Court upheld the denial of a writ of mandamus sought by prison officials to prevent the district court from compelling them to turn over personnel and inmate files to seven prisoners who had sued the prison over alleged constitutional violations. The officials argued that turning over the records would compromise prison communications and confidentiality.

      The Supreme Court observed in Kerr that the writ of mandamus was traditionally used by federal courts only to confine an inferior court to a lawful exercise of its jurisdiction, or to compel an inferior court to exercise its authority when it had a duty to do so. The Court also noted that mandamus is available only in exceptional cases because it is so disruptive of the judicial process, creating disorder and delay in the trial. The writ would have been appropriate, opined the Court, if the trial court had wrongly decided an issue, if failure to reverse that decision would irreparably injure a party, and if there was no other method for relief. Because the prison officials could claim a privilege to withhold certain documents, and had the right to have the documents reviewed by a judge prior to release to the opposing party, other remedies existed and the writ was inappropriate . . .

      . . . emphasis mine in support of my contention that this latest Scientology action is designed to create just that effect.

      (H/T: JBWriter at ESMB)

      • Tony Ortega

        It’s not new paperwork. It’s just supporting documents from the case that has already been posted previously.

  • aquaclara

    I hadn’t realized until now that the surveillance started even before Marty and Monique lived in their cute home on the water. So they were forced to move twice, in an attempt to find some privacy and safety. This is sad.

    We left off with some stunning lawyering by Team RayJ which refuted the anti-SLAPP motion’s appropriateness. I hope the judge takes that I to consideration when he comes back with his answers.

    What a video.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That’s a major point of why Mosey sued. Can you imagine having to pull up stakes and move because you were being stalked and harassed and everything that would entail, uproot your entire life and Then find that camera pointed at your home?

      It’s one thing to read about stalking, but this video gives just a taste. Miscavige may be a paranoid psychopath but he is also a cowardly bully. He stalks women when their husbands aren’t home. This video segment is in the daytime. Imagine being alone at night and jumping every time you hear a creak or a door slam and living with a baseball bat by your bedside.

      Scientology stills seems to be able to use frivolous and vexatious legal maneuvers and in essence use the U.S. court system and laws as just another bully tool in the drawer. If I read this right, this judge is aware of this and giving due diligence to at least keep it whittled down to the minimum.

      The OSA scum who have been photographed stalking Monique and her baby in New Braunfels are just as deranged as Captain Blackheart. Hope to see your mug shots on the news soon.

      Sooner or later this horror show is going to be a featured headline across the media horizon including market cities where the whales swim. Get ready for your close up, Captain.

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Hubbard planned this stuff to drive people mad. I imagine it would do just that.

        • Observer

          Mankind’s Greatest Friend–what a legacy!

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            Oh, the Hubs LOVED ‘Mankind’…it’s people he couldn’t stand.

        • Betsy

          I think it must. I have a friend who was stalked in a much less continuous, intrusive way (not by CO$) and she nearly went round the bend. I am awash in admiration for Mosey in particular…keeping it together and working for the good.

        • Cat Daddy

          He practiced on one of his wives: http://www.ronthenut.org/northrup.htm

          (a) That during the marriage up until the month of
          October, 1950, said Hubbard, an “older man” completely dominated
          the youthful plaintiff, both physically, mentally and emotionally
          and taking advantage of her trusting love and desire for a success-
          ful marriage, repeatedly subjected plaintiff to systematic torture,
          including loss of sleep, beatings, and strangulations and scientific
          torture experiments, including the following:

          (b) That in the latter part of September, 1950, said
          Hubbard told plaintiff at the Chateau Marmont Apartments in
          Hollywood, that “I do not want to be an American husband for I
          can buy my friends whenever I want them”, and he further said
          that he, Hubbard, did not want to be married, yet divorce was
          impossible, for a divorce would hurt his reputation, and that
          she, plaintiff, should kill herself if she really loved him.

          (c) That at said time and place, said Hubbard systemati-
          cally prevented plaintiff from sleeping continuously for a period
          of over four days, and then in her agony, furnished her with a
          supply of sleeping pills, all resulting in a nearness to the
          shadow of death. That the foregoing was a frequent occurence [sic]
          during the married life of the parties.

          (d) That at said time and place, plaintiff became numb
          and lost consciousness, and was thereafter taken by said Hubbard to
          the Hollywood Leland Hospital, where she was kept under a vigilant
          guard from friend and family under an assumed name, for five
          days.

          (e) That shortly following Christmas, 1950, said Hubbard

          – 4 –

          violently strangled plaintiff and sadistically ruptured the
          eustachian tube of her left ear, resulting in the impairment of
          her hearing. That such strangulation of plaintiff was a frequent
          practice on the part of said Hubbard.

          (f) That in January, 1951, at Palm Springs, while
          plaintiff was getting out of an automobile operated by said Hubbard
          he intentionally started the said car in gear, thus propelling
          plaintiff to the pavement resulting in serious personal injury.

          (g) That plaintiff and her medical advisors, following
          the foregoing incidents, concluded that said Hubbard was hopelessly
          insane, and crazy, and that there was no present hope for said
          Hubbard, or any reason for her to indure [sic] further; that competent
          medical advisors recommended that said Hubbard be committed to
          a private sanitarium for psychiatric observation and treatment
          of a mental ailment known as paranoid schizophrenia; that
          plaintiff, on the 23rd day of February, 1951, caused the national
          executive officer of the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation at
          Elizabeth, New Jersey, to be advised of said preliminary diagnosis
          and urgent need for treatment; that said national officer immedi-
          ately advised said Hubbard of said diagnosis.

          (h) That at 11;00 o’clock P.M., on said 23rd day of
          February, 1951, said Hubbard, together with defendant Frank B.
          Dessler, head of the Los Angeles Dianetic Foundation, abducted the
          infant child of the parties, Alexis from her crib, and deposited
          said infant in West Los Angeles with defendant Vince Mc Gonigle
          under the assumed name of Anne Marie Olson, and concealed said
          infant from plaintiff until this day. That this was admitted by
          said Dessler in the habeas corpus proceedings filed on the 10th
          day of April, 1951 entitled In re Alexis Valorie Hubbard, Los
          Angeles Superior Court Number H.C. 35879.

          (i) That said Hubbard, Dessler and defendant Richard B.
          De Mille, having secreted said infant child, feloniously dragged

          – 5 –

          plaintiff out of her bed attired only in her night gown, it then being
          1;00 o’clock A.M., of the morning of the 24th day of February, 1951,
          and by the use of threats, strangulation, torture, and false promises
          to return her child to her, carried and kidnapped plaintiff to Yuma,
          Arizona, all as is detailed at length in the habeas corpus
          proceeding above mentioned.

          (j) That plaintiff has ever since sought the
          whereabouts of her infant child, and has consulted attorneys, police,
          sheriffs, Federal Bureau Of Investigation agents, and courts, and has
          brought said habeas corpus proceedings; that said Hubbard and his
          attorneys refuse any information as to the whereabouts of her infant
          child, unless she goes back to live with said Hubbard, an alternative
          that means certain continued torture and possible death, a predicament
          no good woman, wife and mother should have to face.

          (k) That through all her trials and tribulations, and up
          until the month of February, 1951, plaintiff bore her suffering and
          sorrows in silence and even now would not bare the truth to the
          world, except for the compelling advice of her attorney, Caryl
          Warner, that she tell the truth for the truth will make her free, and
          the truth alone, will bring back her baby, if alive.

          (l) That by reason of the foregoing crazy misconduct
          of said Hubbard, plaintiff is in hourly fear of both the life of
          herself and of her infant daughter, who she has not seen for two
          months.

          That all of said acts on the part of said Hubbard towards
          the plaintiff have been without cause or justification, and without
          the consent of the plaintiff, and have caused her great mental anguish
          and horrible physical suffering.

          VI

          That the custody of said infant child Alexis should be
          awarded to plaintiff, without reservation or condition; that the Court
          should order and compel said Hubbard to submit to legitimate

          – 6 –

          psychiatric examination in the interests of tile welfare and safety
          of said minor child, who is secreted by Hubbard someplace in North
          America.

      • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

        That would be the best news of all. The court case is great and is bringing to light all of OSA’s dirty tricks but it will not end the Church. Getting it in view of the whales and general public will. Seeing the Squirrel Busters in action on YouTube was one of the biggest epiphany moments for me as it made me realize just how corrupt and disgusting CofS had gotten and convinced me to get the hell out. These videos must be re-posted and linked to as often as possible.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thank you for letting others know this. It’s important. I am hoping, Chris, that Leah Remini gets to take that deposition because it will not only hit major media, it will hit the Beverly Hills and other California harbors as well as Clearwater ports. It will even hit major cities around the world for all the whales and celebs to see.

          Between the stalking and the disconnection of mothers from their children, this is what needs to get leaked over and over and over.

          • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

            Exactly right THDNE. I find it very vindicating and appropriate that the thing Hubbard wanted the most – celebrity PR for the Church – is one of the number one things bringing the Church down right now. TC can’t open his mouth about the subject without weeks of ridicule, Kirstie Alley is a walking timebomb and even JT barely gets a pass from the media. Meanwhile, every time Leah is on air, they can’t wait to hear what she is going to dish about Scientology. All those years of cultivating good PR via celebrities has totally reversed on the Church and I’ll be they wish they had never made the effort. Leah giving a deposition on this case would be exactly the right move now to keep this thing in the public eye, as well as moving the case forward against MIscavige. I hope that deposition comes soon.

          • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

            Exactly right THDNE. I find it very vindicating and appropriate that the thing Hubbard wanted the most – celebrity PR for the Church – is one of the number one things bringing the Church down right now. TC can’t open his mouth about the subject without weeks of ridicule, Kirstie Alley is a walking timebomb and even JT barely gets a pass from the media. Meanwhile, every time Leah is on air, they can’t wait to hear what she is going to dish about Scientology. All those years of cultivating good PR via celebrities has totally reversed on the Church and I’ll be they wish they had never made the effort. Leah giving a deposition on this case would be exactly the right move now to keep this thing in the public eye, as well as moving the case forward against MIscavige. I hope that deposition comes soon.

          • joan nieman

            Oh yes indeed.

        • PoisonIvyHerself

          Thanks Chris, that’s interesting how the Squirrel Busters influenced you. Do you think there were others thus affected?

          • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

            I certainly hope so, but I can’t be sure. But seeing that stuff on YouTube is what prompted me later to be interviewed by Karen Delacarriere. I figured that if I could get my name out there, maybe someone who knows/knew me would see it and hopefully start thinking about what is going on with CofS in their lives. The Squirrel Buster videos were so great because they are irrefutable and undeniable evidence of Church wrong-doing and harrassment of SPs, which is strictly verboten per the PTS/SP policies. So only a moron would see that and think “Oh the Church is innocent in this.”

            • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

              Disquis is weird. The above comment was supposed to be a reply to an earlier comment in a thread higher up the chain here.

  • valshifter

    A lot of name droping in the video, for a “documentary about a Scientology deal”? what deal? the billion year contract? that is probably not even legal under labor laws. That video oviously shows unecesary harrasment from a Mafia like cult DBA Scientology. whats with all the stalking? first is stalking then bodies snatching if they can get away with it. yeah brinks of criminality.

  • BosonStark

    They’re waiting for her husband. “He’s a former Scientology guy,” he tells the police officer. That explains it all. It makes it sound like Scientology means “crazy cult shit”? I guess Marty may have explained to the cop who he was when he called them but how much could he have said in that short a period, unless they knew him from a previous call.

    It would have been funny if the cop had said, “Scientology guy — what does that mean?”

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      SO….why does THIS team need to “get a shot of him driving up to his house….” If the previous team had been shooting him earlier?

      • BosonStark

        Maybe they need more “driving up to the house” footage to show how he lost his OT superpowerz and can no longer fly.

        I agree. It’s ridiculous whether it is for surveillance, protest or documentary production. They are doing it just to intimidate him and make his life miserable. However, at that time, they were also into driving Sweeney crazy too.

  • NOLAGirl

    I cannot believe they filed that Writ of Mandamus. Well, yeah…actually I can believe it. But I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE IT!! C’mon Texas appeals court…..show them what a smackdown looks like. Judge Waldrip did NOTHING wrong in his courtroom.

    Co$ has become a clown car.

    • Espiando

      Scientology, residents of the Tyson Zone since 1950.

    • Observer

      And not even ordinary slapstick circus clowns – they’re creepy, evil clowns.

      • joan nieman

        Freaky!!

  • aquaclara

    Since the COS lawyers thought they were SUPPOSED to edit their evidence before submitting it to a court, I wonder what else is missing, er, edited in the rest of the pile?

    • i-Betty

      Several more terabytes, I’m betting.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I would be very interested in knowing what was edited out, if I were Judge Waldrip.

      I thought he said everything has to be turned over.
      To my non-legal brain, “Everything” means no editing.

      • Sanddancer

        Yep. Everything means everything. Having talked with a few lawyer friends about this, antics like this make justices rather angry at you. Additionally, when justices get angry, they tend to get creative, so one may expect a rather interesting ruling when the motion is finally decided.

    • WildaBeast

      Did the Scilon lawyers actually SAY they thought they were supposed to edit it?
      If they did, they have steel balls the size of pumpkins.

      • grundoon

        Yes they did.

  • RMycroft

    In other news, the http://www.campkiswah.com domain for Nation of Islam’s Camp Kiswah at Applied Scholastics’ world HQ in St. Louis has hit the bit bucket. No more happy Dianetics campers, or did they just fumble who was supposed to renew it?

    • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

      Shouldn’t somebody seize that domain name?

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    There is nothing in Manual of Justice or the Fair Game policy that says anything about “making a documentary”. They use words and phrases like, “harass, cause his professional decease, ruin him utterly, never forget, even the score, damn the cost, don’t ever defend, always attack”.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      This is ‘Noisy Investigation’, pure and simple. See above how I would handle the “we need a shot of him driving up to his house” situation in a real documentary, in order to stay within the law and within the boundaries of decency.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I haven’t seen the harassment as it happens, thank goodness, but I take that it does because of the bizarre stories I have been told by protestors. When there were regular protests in Toronto, one person in particular (he is out of it now and I won’t mention his name) seemed to attract the harassment. At that time, my wife told me that she did not want that sort of thing happening in our neighbourhood. I adopted an attitude of paranoia to avoid my block becoming a backdrop for our harassment.

        The absolute worst in this parts was with a woman named Nan McLean who lived in a small town near Toronto named Sutton. The cult carried a coffin down the main street of the town and a cultie with a reverend’s collar continued to stage a mock funeral for her (or her family– I don’t remember but I could actually find out easily enough).

        I don’t see how a government could say this is a “freedom of speech” issue. Then again, I don’t know how an organization like the Church of Scientology manages to stay open at all. It is not a “freedom of religion” issue either. One day some little thing will grow to the point where it breaks their back. It may as well be this.

        • PoisonIvyHerself

          That’s the stuff that Westboro Baptist Church relies on (things like a mock funeral). Of course, that could be interpreted as a death threat as well. Westboro are attorneys and they are very careful to manipulate their activities so they fall just within the law. Scientology I fear does NOT run these things by attorneys – or they don’t give the attorneys the whole story. I’ve never heard of Westboro Baptist Church – as vile as they are, perhaps more vile than CO$ in some ways – stalking 24-7 with cameras – probably because they’ve done the legal research and realized it’s not worth the risk.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            This is from a 1974 issue of McLean’s Magazine which is Canada’s Time Magazine. I took it from Holy Smoke. I am sure Scientologists would call it “ancient history” and point out that the local cult leader, Bryan Levman, was eventually kicked out (scapegoated) for this and other acts. To me, and in light of what is happening with Monique Rathbun, it just shows that they haven’t changed one bit. Here we go…

            On February 12 of this year, eight young people arrived in Sutton (population 1,500) carrying a black, empty coffin. They paraded it along the main street past the Riveredge Restaurant, Holborn’s Hardware and the Lake Simcoe Advocate, finally putting it down on the cold sidewalk outside the Bank of Nova Scotia, where they held a “funeral for lost souls” and pressed leaflets on uncomprehending villagers. The leaflets, signed “The Church of Scientology of Toronto,” charged that the McLean family had “betrayed all God-fearing Canadians” and was “succumbing to the mysteries of evil.”

            Shortly after the McLeans left Scientology, their rural neighbors had received calls from “credit investigators” suggesting that Eric McLean was guilty of embezzlement and from an anonymous “outraged husband.”

            At one stage, a former Scientology colleague stayed with the McLeans for a month, claiming that he, too, had abandoned Scientology. When he left, he tried unsuccessfully to have police lay criminal charges against his hosts.

            Scientology officials deny any responsibility for the telephone calls or the actions of the man who stayed with the McLeans. He is now back in the Scientology fold, training to be a minister.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              That sounds much like the job Nancy Many was assigned to do, pretending to be an ex or an Indie but really working for OSA. Is the McCleans family related to McCleans Magazine?

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              No, just a coincidence, so much so that I had not even thought about it.

              She talks for two hours on youtube about her experiences with the cult. She is an old woman now. She was there when I was there and was on the very first wave of people outwardly protesting the cult. I will change that. There was no wave. There was her and, I assume, a few other isolated and all but forgotten people. She has shown enormous courage. As a very old woman she even showed up at the Anonymous protests, with all the high school and university students who had no idea of the enormous role she played in protesting Scientology.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              Good for her!

            • RMycroft

              Similar..
              Two leaders in Britain still to face U.S. court in conspiracy case January 1, 1980, John Marshall, Globe and Mail

              They even held a mock funeral down the main street of the McLeans’ home town. Yeah, that’s real religious and not at all harassment…

              Nan and Gerry:

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Sounds more like a foreign power than a church.

              RM if you haven’t heard the McLean tape yet, addressed to Senator Xenophon in Australia, it is worth listening to IF you have two hours with not much to do, or you are at the computer anyway and can leave it playing in the background. It is on youtube, in two parts. I was in during the time she discusses, but I was such small potatoes I never even got wind of those things. I have often said that I dodged a bullet with Scientology. After listening to those recordings my phrase started to seem much more literal. While no bullets were fired she goes into one situation where someone died under very mysterious circumstances and the incident was not well investigated. That is her most shocking story.

  • NOLAGirl

    Has anyone else been able to find the 360+ documents? I’m using the info provided on other boards to do the search and keep coming up with nothing.

    • Tony Ortega

      It’s all material that we’ve already posted. Mostly the exhibits from Scientology’s anti-SLAPP motion.

      • NOLAGirl

        Thanks Tony.

      • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

        Have you posted transcripts?

        • Tony Ortega

          There is a transcript from a hearing in there that will melt your brain, if you can handle reading Ricardo Cedillo’s arguments for that many pages. I’ve posted the whole thing in the story, above.

          • Xenuvius

            Thanks Tony – Do you know the page number for start of transcript?

            • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

              MR917

          • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

            Sure, it might melt some brains, personally I’m finding it quite amusing. Also, the irony, it burns. There’s Scientology’s chief shyster falling over himself trying to convince a Texas court that Marty Rathbun had such a senior role in the cult that he is in possession of confidential information and, thus, should be excluded from access to the discovery documents and, further, that this whole case is really about Marty attacking Scientology. Meanwhile, on the other side of the Atlantic, Ofcom notes (in its recent finding against a Scientology complaint) that the cult provided a statement which said, inter alia . . .

            . . . Marty Rathbun has never been a part of its ecclesiastical management and although he has been publicly attacking the Church for four years, his claims have had no discernible effect whatsoever . . .

            . . . the crazy, it never ends.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              (As Hole says above), Marty is like Scientology –
              He’s ecclesiastical, he’s a nobody…he’s a floor wax and a dessert topping, too!

            • RMycroft

              I guess all those times (29+) that Marty Rathbun was Scientology’s official spokesman were some kind of aberration, their insane sign-language translator, or something.

              I’m not sure if Marty ever took the stand for CoS in the 1991 Ontario Snow White case, but both David Miscavige and Mike Rinder did. CoS’s lawyer would have had to identify their position and explain it to the court.

              Heh, I doubt Miscavige told that court that he was just this ecclesiastical guy, very busy and never did business in Canada.

          • Sherbet

            As a chronic insomniac, I thank you. Saving this for tonight’s wee hour perusal.

    • Tony Ortega

      I’ve posted the filing in the story above. Most of it should be familiar, but there’s a transcript of a hearing that is interesting.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Just checking out the address mentioned in the video on street view…

    • noseinabk

      Address for Abelson?
      8491 W. Sunset blvd
      Suite 1100

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Hee hee – just walked by there two weeks ago, staying on Sunset in LA! Just a block from Mel’s Drive In! Should’ve dropped in to say “Hi” to Eliot and friends!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Just stopped in to tell them you do documentary work? hee hee

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            That would be hilarious. Mr. Ivy and I could’ve dropped in with Go Pros on our heads!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Wearing a Volunteer Suppressive shirt … priceless.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          “park in rear”… I think we have evidence of Miscavige’s perversions in full public view.

          • Mooser

            “park in rear”… I think we have evidence of Miscavige’s perversions in full public view.”

            Oh Derek! That’s there so people can read their mail, or box up a present to ship to Grandma, surrounded by ancient oaks and topi, topia… screw it, plant sculptures, while sitting on velvet lawns.
            See that’s what happens: Since I move my lips while I read, I can’t write words I can’t pronounce. I shoulda got a better edumacation.

        • joan nieman

          How ironic!

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Ahh so suite 1100 is a postbox, must be special meeting room for client Dinky.

        • joan nieman

          Good investigation!

      • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

        In deposition Abelson once informed the Judge that he (Abelson) had no idea what his (Abelson’s) address is, I shit you not.

        • RMycroft

          Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. Abelson has been Scientology’s real friend for decades.

    • Cat Daddy

      http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=101;t=000224;p=0

      Hollywood Rumors, Gossip and Lawsuits Waiting to Happen
      12/14/99
      DHARMA DOESN’T HAVE VERY GOOD KARMA

      From
      this moment on, Jenna Elfman shall be known as the Grinch who stole
      Christmas. During the last holiday season, the Dharma & Greg star
      refused to take part in a celebrity autograph auction for an
      organization that
      raised money for the care of children with HIV. As a
      brainwashed devotee of The Church of Scientology, the bah-humbugy
      Elfman stated that she couldn’t support any organization that raised
      money for AIDS research or relief because “AIDS is a state of mind, not a
      disease.” Get over it! They’re babies, for Buddha’s sake!! (or should
      we say “for Xenu’s sake” — in honor of her wacky alien leader/god?).

      Ironically,
      Scientology megacelebs Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman and John Travolta all
      donated autographs for the same auction. One word of advice, Jenna:
      Watch out for the ghost of Christmas past.

  • Juicer77

    First time commenting but you all seem very nice :) I’m a total outsider who got very interested in the CO$ crimes thru various video posts, blogs and recently published books. Any human has the right to freely choose/embrace/question/leave whatever religion they wish, at any time. It hurts to read so many sad stories of deaths, family separation, lost friendships and harassments. Although I think CO$ is total bunk, if you want to practice freely that’s your right. Thanks to the posters for the many insightful comments and links, it really helps the newcomer (and can be darn entertaining). To those who have escaped/are considering — know that there are many who support you and love you for who you are. You may think you’re alone on that road but you’ve got a big group standing with you. Ok, now off my soapbox… I have two burning questions and y’all seem like the peeps to answer: 1) does anyone else worry that Marty Rathbun will “reform” the church and then we’ll see a backslide into shady behavior? In my opinion $ is doomed because it’s policies are BUILT on deception. And 2) even with lots of dough and a limited # of Sea Org working around the clock, how can they afford to keep all those buildings maintenanced? Perhaps the shiny new buildings are crumbling and rotting inside, just as the CO$ seems to be. Thanks for listening!

    • Great White Clam

      Any human has the right to freely choose/embrace/question/leave whatever religion they wish, at any time.

      $cientology is not a religion. Itsa cult.

      Even L. Ron Hubbard acknowledged that $cientology is not a religion.

      • Great White Clam

        “Society, thirsting for more control of more people substitutes religion
        for the spirit, the body for the soul, an identity for the individual
        and science and data for truth. In this direction lies insanity,
        increasing slavery, less knowingness, greater scarcity and less society.

        “Scientology has opened the gates to a better World. It is not a
        psycho-therapy nor a religion. It is a body of knowledge which, when
        properly used, gives freedom and truth to the individual.”

        – “The Creation of Human Ability,” L. Ron Hubbard, 1953.

        Note, the “not a… religion” reference was removed in 1971 and later editions.

        • Juicer77

          Thank you… I had never heard this before!

          • Great White Clam

            “Scientology 1970 is being planned on a religious organization basis throughout the world. This will not upset in any way the usual activities of any organization. It is entirely a matter for accountants and solicitors.”

            – Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter (HCOPL) 29 Oct. 1962,
            “Religion”

            • Toni m

              WOW!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Religion, business, mental therapy, floor wax or dessert topping?

              Just take a seat and wait five minutes and the answer changes. The answer always depended entirely on what legal entity was breathing down his neck or about to bust open the vault. Just watched “The Sting” over the weekend. I have seen for myself staff running for their closets to frantically don their fake minister garb and collars when an alert rang through the hallways that some authority had just entered reception.

              It’s a money scam and nothing more. However, if you are addressing scientology customers and slaves, that is when one can correctly use any and all of the above labels.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              “I have seen for myself staff running for their closets to don their fake minister garb and collars when an alert that some authority had just entered reception.”

              Great image.
              Thank you Hole.
              (That might inspire some great new lyrics, too!)

            • Mooser

              “Religion, business, mental therapy, floor wax or dessert topping?”

              That’s the great thing about Indies! Each one can concentrate on whatever aspect of the whatever it is which does, well, whatever. And, for as low as a quarter of the price of Miscavige’s fleecetorium!

      • Observer

        And he said it more than once, until the IRS came a-knocking.

      • Mooser

        Oh, sure, you can make a religion out of it, if you want, but I’m sure most Indies would prefer to drop all of that, and stick to the part that works, the “tech”.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Welcome.

      While many of us think scientology is totally whacked out, it is not about what they believe.

      It is about criminal activity. We want the human trafficking, the discrimination, the holding of prisoners, etc, to STOP.

      1) Many of us are willing to give the indies a free pass and let them sort out their issues. If they can create a form of scientology that doesn’t break the law, I will let them be. Many of us are aware of that the criminal activity is built into the policies of Hubbard. They will have to pick and choose what they want to follow and what they want to reject

      2) the buildings in some cities were never renovated. Philadelphia and Chicago are taking scientology to court for urban blight issues. We know of a unmaintained building in Copenhagen.

      As to Marty, read his blog. he has been drifting further and further away from scientology.

      • Juicer77

        Drifting away seems to be the case for almost all who have left CO$. The stranglehold of brainwashing seems to loosen over time and most end up thinking it’s complete crap. I agree with you on the criminal activity – it’s outrageous how they’ve been able to bully and buy their way out of any accountability whatsoever. How many more Lisas do there have to be for people to WAKE UP!

        • Eclipse-girl

          Marty left scientology in 2004. He met and married a non scientologist.
          He has had close to 10 yrs to decompress.

          Most exes need time to decompress. They had so much crap thrown at them, and the thought stopping process of scientology , etc.

      • Mooser

        “They will have to pick and choose what they want to follow and what they want to reject…”

        Many Indies favor, and I am sure would be willing, to subject Scientology auditing to modern scientific scrutiny so it can be added to the adjuncts of modern mental health. Problem is, it becomes a religion on the way to the lab.

    • El Con Blubbard

      There are human rights and then their is the cult of Scientology with NO human rights.

    • Bob

      Juicer, speaking about the current church, any mention about human rights by the church or it’s lackeys is complete HYPOCRISY. The church as of this date practice complete suppression of free exchange of ideas within its group. We are not allowed to discuss or read:

      1. Any grievance with any church entity with anyone except an ethics officer or Director of Processing.
      2. Any personal or mental issues with anyone but our D of P or auditor.
      3. Any Internet information about our church.
      4. Any issues dealing with problems other members have had with church
      5. Any disagreements with the leader of the church.
      6. Any past members of the group who have left or been declared.
      7. Any confidential materials outside of specific church’s or talk about the materials to other church members.
      8. Any bad treatment we have personally received from entities in the organization.
      9. Any lies we tell in defense of the group.

      If we a caught doing this we will be hauled in by our local Ethics Officer to undergo interrogation by a trained auditor to find out what crimes we have against the church or society and we will be the out through a re-education program at our own expense and be expected to donate large sums of money or donate a great deal of volunteer time to make up the damage to the group. This would should include some sort of attack on some enemy or enemies of the group in order get in good standing again.

      This is an ultra-extreme case of the pot calling the kettle black.

      • Juicer77

        Understood. Thanks for responding and outlining this so clearly. As you can tell, I have a big mouth and like to question everything. I put my foot in it sometimes because I’m so shocked, seeing the view from inside. (#9 -you can’t read your own lies???!!) Upon rereading my very first post, I should have said I do not defend Scientology (or Dianetics) or anything to do with L. Ron Hubbard. There’s a lot to learn, which is why I’m here. Thanks for including me in the discussion. You all are a truly valuable resource.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Answer to number 1) No, not worried at all. Marty Rathbun has very publicly shared his desire to move on from Scientology and the evolution of his beliefs which have expanded far beyond Scientology.

      Answer to number 2) they don’t. The public faces of those buildings are well maintained, but behind the scenes there are usually lots and lots of problems and code violations.

      • Mooser

        “1) No, not worried at all. Marty Rathbun has very publicly shared his
        desire to move on from Scientology and the evolution of his beliefs
        which have expanded far beyond Scientology.”

        Sometimes, admittedly, it gets a little hard to distinguish what Marty has said (and very publicly, as you noted) and what might be said and discussed by the commenters at his site. And where’s the harm in allowing Miscavige to worry about a Reformed Scientology Church coalescing around Rathbun? It’s good for him, a good rough-and-tumble, free-market religious competition is the American Way! As you may remember, a certain guy called Superman, was very enamored of that, along with, of course, truth and justice.

    • Mooser

      “Although I think CO$ is total bunk, if you want to practice freely that’s your right.”

      Sure! What’s the harm in explaining to somebody how an e-meter works, and then auditing them? What could go wrong?

      • Juicer77

        Good point. Without going too deep into it, your spiritual faith should never be monitored or edited by anyone but yourself. I think that’s what you’re saying.

        • Mooser

          “I think that’s what you’re saying.”

          Oh, I don’t even know what I’m saying. Out of all the stuff in Scie theo-tech (and apart from the person-on-person crimes and abuses) the e-meter offends the hell out of me.

          It seems to carry with it an assumption that because it’s got a meter and leads and a dial, and the meter moves, it must do something. Even anti-Scientology writers often assume the e-meter is some kind of crude “lie detector”.
          So in my opinion, anybody who uses an e-meter on anyone is up to no good. Intentionally or not, thank you.

          • Mooser

            Okay, okay, I might as well tell it before somebody else does! When I got my first Ohm-meter (from Lafayette Radio!) I attached Cream-of-Mushroom Soup cans to the leads, and told girls it was an “Ero-meter” or “Romanti-meter”. I would suggest I was the object of their affections, and their hands would tighten on the cans, in lieu of my throat, and I’d get a big ‘reading’. I got several beatings, too, before I gave it up. Maybe that has something to do with it. Being beaten up by a girl at 12 or so is humiliating

            • joan nieman

              Ha ha! That will teach you Mooser.

  • Xenuvius

    Clams…clams…clams…

    This is what your IAS Platinum Diamond Patronus status enables. You must be proud.

    Scientology…cleaning out wallets and bank accounts…one at a time….since 1952.

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    What do I think about this video? Hmm. By itself, not much. It’s more of a question of patterns. As a part of a larger collection of videos I think it definitely would show a pattern of stalking and harassing behavior. Is that even illegal in Texas, America? It would be in some places. I just want to see if Scientology can make a mockery out of the Texas courts with the same efficiency they’ve shown in the Federal dockets. In this country, I think it’s gonna take a reigning in of ALL religious activity to stop Scientology, because they will hide behind those same religious laws with as much fervor as the Catholic molesters have tried to do. I’m thinking we just need to end this abusive ‘no taxation’ of religion nonsense and that’ll be a nice first step in defanging all the religious charlatans out there. Now I know that Scientology is particularly predatory, but let none of you forget that the other “faiths” are not free of damaging social behaviors as well. Behaviors that are being supported, in effect, by our taxpayer dollars. Enjoy.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Catholic molesters – didn’t work out so well for all of them in the end, though, did it?

      • kemist

        But it worked for a shamefully long time. Especially in Quebec, where the atrocities committed by it include even worse things than child molesting – see Duplessis Orphans :
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplessis_Orphans

        That’s one of the reasons we’re not that fond of religion as a rule, especially when it becomes a bit too close to politics. A politician who goes on about his chosen beliefs here pretty much commits political suicide.

        • PoisonIvyHerself

          I agree. Much of the rest of the Western world is saner. In the US we are just so flippin’ protective of our religions.
          If you can’t practice your religion without getting all up in other people’s lives (or hurting them), then you should have to play by the laws of the land, regardless.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      I agree with you Tim. If Canada can bar Westboro Baptist members from entering their country, Germany can declare Scientology a constitutional threat, and France can convict them of fraud. What the hell is wrong with the US?

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      I don’t see how, “Prohibiting the free exercise of religion” translates into, “Allow religions to mercilessly stalk and harass and defraud their membership and members of the public, and use children as their slaves (including violating their reproductive rights) while evading taxes.” Also, “Ignore all evidence that shows any wrongdoing and inexorably rule in favor of all religions despite that evidence.”

  • Truthiwant

    For any newcomers here, I’ll help you word clear “We’re making a documentary.”
    It means “We’re a couple of unscrupulous snitches and we’ve been told by Scientology to blatantly spy on these people.”

  • Sidney18511

    I must say….the littlest fidget is really terrified to give a depo. I’m sure that he told his lawyers that and they guaranteed him that to the best of their ability, using every trick in the book, they will put a stop to him EVER having to step in a court room or give a deposition under oath.
    I’m sure they still have more tricks up their sleeve to gum up the works. I bet the first $$ offer from DM will come right before his depo is due.
    I just hope that MR’s lawyer doesn’t push them to settle too quickly.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Do you think DM and Scientology have lied, or misrepresented themselves to their lawyers?
      What happens to lawyers who lie or fail to produce evidence that exists, when it wasn’t given to them by their clients?

      It is Monique’s case; Ray is her lawyer. We have all thought that one of the things most desired was to get DM in a deposition. I do not think it will be settled until that point.

  • Tony Ortega

    I’ve added the 350-page filing by the church in support of its petition for a writ of mandamus. It should all be pretty familiar, if you’ve been following the case closely. Near the end, the church files a couple of copies of the infamous Riverside County Sheriff’s Office report, when Warren McShane tried to get John Brousseau charged for taking his personal belongings when he ditched Scientology in 2010. I’ll check with Ray, but I think these are the same copies we’ve seen before.

    • TX Lawyer

      Not sure why that’s the only piece appearing on the court of appeals’ docket sheet, Tony. The mandamus brief should be posted there too (along with the other 9 volumes or so of the record they filed). My guess is that the files are just too damn big for the clerk’s office to have put them all up yet, although the whole thing should have been filed electronically in the first place.

      • Tony Ortega

        Yeah, that’s my guess too.

    • Mooser

      “Near the end, the church files a couple of copies of the infamous
      Riverside County Sheriff’s Office report, when Warren McShane tried to
      get John Brousseau charged for taking his personal belongings when he
      ditched Scientology in 2010. I’ll check with Ray, but I think these are
      the same copies we’ve seen before”

      That, they think, is going to help their case? Wow. oh, and a “couple of copies” in case they miss it?

  • Mark

    We know you read these posts, Davy… so just a few quiet words in you ear, OK?

    By submitting that 90-second mute video of Monique pulling into the driveway, you probably thought you were operating on solid Goebbels-type principles: the bigger the lie you tell, the more people will fall for it, didn’t you Davy?

    In this, as so much else, you’re sadly out of date – Goebbels had no internet to contend with, for a start. But even by your own lights as someone who wouldn’t recognise the truth if it came up and bit you on your tiny pink backside, you’re so really not having “surveillance” conducted on Monique and Marty – you’re indulging in your own perverted tastes for stalking, harrassment and voyeurism, aren’t you?

    I mean, just look at what that full video you were so anxious to keep from Judge Waldrip shows – the Rathbuns come and go from their house like normal human beings – unlike you, Davy: you’re so scared of the real world that you have to go everywhere in secret. The Rathbuns don’t like being stalked by hired goons, and aren’t afraid to call the police – unlike you, Davy: you’re so scared of the authorities that you’d rather let people like Lisa McPherson die in agony than simply call an ambulance.

    And beyond that? Well, you already knew the makes, colours and registration-numbers of the Rathbun’s cars, so that was wasted effort, wasn’t it? But at least now you know that they look after their pot-plants (think I spotted a Swiss Cheese plant and a castor-oil plant, but the video’s not very clear).

    That must make you feel really secure.

    • Truthiwant

      Mr. Miscavige has a greater interest in implants rather than potplants. His favourite variety is a Helatrobus Nonsensicus.

      • Mark

        I see him more as a kind of Datura Stramonium otherwise known as the thoroughly nasty Jimson Weed in the US, or Sodom Apple in the UK.

    • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

      It’s been fascinating. I was on DARPANet before it opened up to commercial and general public use in to the Internet, I have seen the consequences of literally world-wide nearly-instantaneous communication and it really has made criminal enterprises like Scientology unviable, just as it is killing theistic cults.

  • Ruby

    About 4:52, the guy states he “believes” they are waiting for her husband…really? Don’t they know who they are waiting for?

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      A round-about way of saying, “We only work here.”

  • Gerard Plourde

    The removal of 80% of the video poses a big problem for the cult and its legal counsel. The legal issue is known as spoliation of evidence and it goes directly to the credibility of the cult. It is serious because it directly shows the party concealing evidence from the court. The consequences are harsh as the cult should have learned in the Patrick Desmond lawsuit.
    http://www.hpllegal.com/latest-news/judge-imposes-harsh-sanctions-on-norcross-drug-treatment-facility-format=pdf.pdf

    • Great White Clam

      Impeached?

      • Gerard Plourde

        No. Because the discovery process established a clear pattern of deception on Narconon’s part, the judge issued a pretrial order that essentially prevented Narconon from presenting a defense.

        • Great White Clam

          Who could possibly deny that the clam-circus was/is/and always will be deceptive?
          Deception is probably a “trade secret” for the clams. Its a Good Thing[TM] footbulletry can’t be trademarked by the clams!

          Wait…

          lol

          • chukicita

            Let’s see: Dauntless, defiant, resolute? Or Deceptive, tenacious and batshit?

          • lucille austero

            Deception is their trade secret (spits coffee).

          • Candygram

            Wouldn’t be surprised if they also have Harassment[TM].

    • Zer0

      Wouldn’t an appropriate sanction for such obvious spoliation be to prevent further testimony from the defense?

    • Betsy

      Thanks for the comment…your legal insights are always excellent accompaniments to the developments.

  • Just Dee

    So Monty Drake denies that Comal County is the proper venue (#5) and yet the video states that Monty Drake is their employer? No wonder they are editing info they are giving! What an ass!

    • NOLAGirl

      And the documents also state that he is a resident of Texas, and the incidents took place in Texas…????? So where would he like this case to take place, the Van Allen Belt perhaps???

      A moron, is a moron, is a moron.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Isn’t Elliot Abelson the lawyer for one of the branches of scientology?

      He IS doing business in Texas. AND We all know who has to micromanage everything, but no one else is competent –> The Demented Maggot, that is who.

    • TX Lawyer

      Comal County is a couple hundred miles away from Ingleside-on-the-Bay, where that video was filmed. He’s challenging venue (i.e., which county is appropriate), not jurisdiction (i.e., can he be haled into court somewhere in Texas).

      • Eclipse-girl

        This is just to show what Monique was putting up with before moving to Comal County. I thought her lawsuit was about the harassment , surveillance, etc after She and Marty moved to Comal County. Another reason why the Squirrel Busters were not named in the suit.

  • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

    In fact I did not want to log in today.
    But I have to quote this part (page 188):

    …We wanted to let him know that we knew what he was doing. Thus, our first visit was a “tech inspection.” In a Church of Scientology, a tech inspection may be done where it is suspected or apparent that non-standard practices are being undertaken by a minister or in a religious course room. In that event, a senior ecclesiastical
    person or authority would demand to see if he practices of he offending church or minister was true to the technology of Scientology. Thus, our first visit was appropriately, a “tech inspection” of Rathbun….

    It somehow sounds as if they think they had the right to do such. So the catholic church has the right to occupy an evangelic house and ask the family for compliance of Catholicism? They are allowed to harass them, because Catholicism is worth more and its legal status is higher?
    Can someone sue the cult for their slogan “Religious Freedom”? It is fraud!

    They say “… In a Church of Scientology, a tech inspection ….”. Marty’s house is not the Church of Scientology.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      A tech inspection would be reviewing folders, giving the pc a review session to find out what happened in the past session with that auditor, inspecting the auditing room to see if it was standard per requirements, reviewing the training background of the auditor, questioning the auditor casually or eventually via sec check, reviewing the processing records of the auditor and perhaps inspecting the auditor’s emeter to see if it was calibrated properly or checking the batter or any faulty problems.

      A tech inspection does Not entail stalking the auditor’s family at their home. Even by scientology policies, this is a bold faced lie.

    • Ruby

      Marty had already been declared an SP so there was no need to “see if he is true to the tech of scientology”…they already, in their mind, KNEW he was not. The cherch does NOT go to a declared SP’s house to inspect…ever. Besides, as an SP, Marty’s ONLY terminal was supposed to be International Justice Chief for the cherch, not John Allendar.
      Edit to add: For Allendar and others to be doing this “inspection” violates the cherch policies on people contacting an SP.

    • OrangySky

      Wow, exactly. A “tech inspection may be done…etc etc….BY A MINISTER OR IN A RELIGIOUS COURSE ROOM.” He wasn’t in the church hence he wasn’t a minister.
      So, since I was confirmed Episcopalian but haven’t practiced in 30 years, does that mean the Episcopalian Church can come to my home and make sure I’m getting all the words to the Lord’s Prayer right during my bedtime prayers?

  • Sunny Sands

    I thought the officer in the video did a good job of getting the information from the videographers in a professional manner.

    He also was detailed in finding out who exactly they worked for. When PI Monty Drake was mentioned, the officer asked if they worked for Monty, and they said no, we work for attorney Abelson. That could have significance.

    • Eclipse-girl

      It has a lot of significance, IMHO

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Yes, hired by at attorney to do what? A documentary. It’s almost like they were ordered to lie when caught.

  • Sherbet

    Summing up the defendants’ entire case: “They caught us, but it isn’t fair.”

    • Ken

      Yes and to expand on it. “They caught us at using ‘fair game’, which is not fair”. Now they are catching at us ‘fair gaming’ the court system and that is not fair. So to make it fair we will continue to endeavor to fair game the legal system by miscavige-slapping….then appealing. The whole intent is to restrain the law of the land while we operate off our own anti-social self proclaimed laws which are to destroy anyone who doesn’t agree or follow our Godbard who art at Target II and his hole-creating vicar. We will create create whatever hell like conditions we damned well please.

  • Ruby

    Also curious…is Eliot Abelson a scientologist or does he just work for the cherch? I think it’s interesting that a lawyer would hire someone to film a “documentary” for one of his clients. I can understand a lawyer perhaps ensuring that hiring docs are in order, but to be the actual employer?

    • Sunny Sands

      Yes, the videographers said they did not work for PI Monty Drake, but that they worked for Eliot
      Abelson.

    • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

      Google “eliot ableson gambino”

    • grundoon

      A lawyer would hire a PI to gather evidence for a legal case. Like, for a disability case, the insurance company’s lawyer might want video of the claimant skiing or playing football. The Chruch goes through lawyers to operate PIs, because they want the orders to the PIs and the reports coming back to be kept secret by attorney-client privilege. Obviously it has nothing whatever to do with documentary filmmaking.

      • Ruby

        Thanks Grundoon. Yes, I can see your example making sense. But, “documentary”…I don’t buy it at all. I don’t think anyone does.

  • Sejanus

    Having made a few documentaries in my time I have never needed a lawyer and sure as shootin never needed a PI.
    This is insulting to any and all kinds of journalism.
    Scientology is beyond evil. Words simply fail to convey the utter disregard for human rights and basic civil liberties they are guilty of.
    They will lose this court case.
    They will lose the obvious appeal.
    They will lose it all.
    When all is said and done it is about lies built upon lies built upon the ravings of a lunatic and perpetuated by a maniac.

    • NOLAGirl

      As someone who has been involved in documentaries have you ever had the police called on you?? I’m guessing, No. They are beyond stalkerish & creepy. They make my skin crawl.

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        I’ve had to get a (first amendment) attorney involved in one project I did. During that same documentary I was stalked on a daily basis by local police and threatened with arrest a couple times ( long story but suffice to say we were VERY MUCH in the right – we were being bullied to stop our project by some very rich and powerful people who didn’t want to be in the spotlight. They lost, and our project wasn’t all that controversial anyway. They were just trying to throw their weight around. But they cost us time and money.) But never had to have a PI involved.

        The thing is – and I’ve written this before – in the USA, unless the doc falls under news, you open yourself up for all sorts of lawsuits if you shoot people without their permission – especially if you include said people in footage and even more especially, if you plan to air it on TV or sell (make money from) it. This is why real doc series like FIRST 48 or COPS blurs out faces. And if you’re going to ask “Then how do they do that show, ‘Cheaters'” – take a guess how. It’s FAKE.)

        Currently in the US, the only folks who can get away with ‘hidden camera’ and ‘ambush-style shooting’ are legit news. This is one reason why (in addition to economics) most controversial docs you see on US TV are now done by network news departments. And a caveat to that – even news is not so reckless and sneaky. (That ‘hidden camera’ show Cheaters? No. Not news, and NOT REAL. All fake.

        I’m always curious about how people get their clearance for controversial docs I wish I’d made – like, say, BLACKFISH. You have to assume some risk, sure. But I’m certain all that footage was carefully licensed and cleared. There were no ‘ambush’ interviews of, say, the owners of SeaWorld, or shots of them coming and going from their mansions. Of course there weren’t – for that very reason! No responsible entertainment attorney would advise his or her client in a non-news, non-public figure situation, to lie in wait outside a private person’s house, filming her.

        As you say, Sejanus, their contentions are insulting to legitimate filmmakers and journalists.

        Judge Waldrip needs to grill them on the planned usage of said ‘documentary’ (as well as the Squirrel Busters doc), who the audience and broadcasts outlasts would be, and who, if anyone, would profit from it. (If it’s Scientology, there’s always gotta be profit involved – even if it’s just to show the doc at a fundraiser.)

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          “If it’s Scientology, there’s always gotta be profit involved”. If you mean financial profit, not always. I would amend to: “If it’s Scientology, there’s always gotta be leverage involved.”

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            Still, when they show these ‘internal documentaries,’ they are showing them usually at fundraisers. And remember the New Year’s Eve event, when we saw all those anti-Pysch videos distributed? Weren’t people rugged for that?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              It might be used in relation to smear campaign vehicles, like Freedom Mag online, but not at fundraising events. The last time they did that Posse issue, it backfired when members saw it and were shocked. If DM showed members today’s video I can tell you that it might wake up enough members to start looking around. Confirmation that their $$ is going to hire PI’s who stalk women is just not going to go over. I can’t imagine even DM will try and use this for anything other than his private perv collection, probably filed right next to the Tom Cruise shelf.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              Well then if its’ for a private perv collection, Derek’s posting of ‘Tex. Penal Code § 21.15. Improper Photography or Visual Recording. (2007)’ applies! ;-)
              I hope they have to show the whole ‘documentary’ in court, in that case. So that it leaks and some subtly doubting whales see it.

        • NOLAGirl

          Great info PI. Thank you.

          They’ve painted themselves into a corner with their arrogant, above the law attitude.

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            In addition, after watching the video, the crew state that “we just need a shot of him arriving at his home.” Okay, if that were me producing a documentary on a “squirrel scientologist”, in order to stay in the clear legally and ethically, I would get a shot of the home itself from the street (no people), and then I’d superimpose either a cleared still photo or cleared footage of the guy over the house. I would never risk lying in wait to shoot someone going in and out of his/her home…unless I had the news cloaking.

        • ze moo

          The Ingleside video will be in an internal CO$ ‘documentary’, which will be produced in court at some time. It will feature ‘Marty Luther Rathbun’ and his ‘non-sanctioned’ auditing. All ‘ecclesiastical’ here, nothing to see, move along……Such smoke and mirrors will not hide the harassment of Mosey. Add in spoliation of evidence and Davey better be prepared to write Mosey a nice check.

          • Mooser

            “The Ingleside video will be in an internal CO$ ‘documentary’, which will
            be produced in court at some time. It will feature ‘Marty Luther
            Rathbun’ and his ‘non-sanctioned’ auditing.”

            Why do I get the feeling that Rathbun is playing to that (not “into it” he’s playing “to it”) on his blog? If a Martin Luther is what Miscavige worries about, all right, we’ll give him a Martin Luther. But Martin Luther didn’t file the suit, and neither did Marty Rathbun.
            And allowing Indies to rave on about how great Scientology is without Miscavige at the head of it doesn’t hurt either.

          • Eclipse-girl

            The vids were taken years ago. How long a time is reasonable to expect them to make their internal video.

            • Mooser

              Or at least show a script? An outline? A one paragraph proposal? A memo?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Stalked on a daily basis by local police? That’s just so wrong on so many fronts.

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            I won’t say what “locality” it was, but it was a place where the police were very much owned by insanely wealthy people. In the end, after the hiring of a first amendment attorney, the local authorities caved when it came to possibly going up against the giant media conglomerate behind us (though to be honest, that media conglomerate had no idea what was going on – we bluffed!) But they still harassed us to make sure we were in 100% compliance of the compromises we promised to make to get the production back on track again. The whole story is long and I guess funny (in retrospect) but at the time was a hellish year of my life. I loved the final film, though it is far, far less interesting than the behind the scenes was. Someday if we meet I’ll tell you.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh got it on the locality. That makes sense. Those 1% neighborhoods can be pretty rough. This sounds like quite an opening chapter. hint

            • joan nieman

              Hmmm. Poison, I am going to be trying to figure that one out all day!

      • Sejanus

        Never had the cops called ever.
        We stayed well within the law and also made very sure we were not over stepping or trampling anyone’s legal rights. Have been confronted but in the end it was pretty basic..and if we were shooting stuff that would spark a riot…we spoke to the police first and got some assistance to fall within the behaviours of acceptable.
        There are ways to be respectful and still get a story if you have to.
        The only time it should elevate is if there is a physical confrontation…but even then you would have to have violated someone so badly as to not even be able to talk them down..as was the clear case here.
        Make sure the set up is professional.
        Use the right stuff..and tripods tripods tripods…lol
        Plus….have some decent equipment…not usual store bought garbage to shoot with…lol..that is rather a huge give away.
        Everything these guys in Co$ do is about Ass hattery.
        If they can be sneaky or honourable..guess the way they go.
        If they can be kind or confrontational dicks..guess which way.
        If they can be assholes….well there is no other option for them…its just not in the wiring of any of them…and that happened long before Mcscumbag’s watch. It was a part of the cult pure and simple.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      And until the US laws change, they and other groups like them will continue. Removing the religious cloak by making financials transparent will be the first step. That will expose the financial criminals and scammers hiding behind a cross. It won’t get rid of the psychopaths that are in it for a license to destroy, but at least if the money they take in is used for inurement or bulk legal fees, PI’s, etc., victims will had easier access to docs for evidence.

      • Sejanus

        The government needs to make a small change to tax exemptions.
        Any group or organization granted one should have a review every 5 – 10 years.
        At that time the status can be revoked if the group operates out of the spirit of the intended purpose.
        Shuts them right down.
        Legit organizations would have no issue with it and the Co$ would be yanked in a heartbeat.
        Judges would then be able to make recommendations under law to the proper agencies to pull the exemptions.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Sounds good and I understand small changes are easier to come by than massive sweeps. However, 10 years seems far too long a period. If it was annually, then it would be harder to mask discrepancies too. Full transparency annually would see scientology having a going out of business sale like That!

        • OrangySky

          I’ve learned that 501C3 fraud is a HUGE problem in America, because it’s so (relatively) easy to get yourself 501C3 status. There are far too many 501C3’s for the Fed to monitor. However IF you break the law and violate those 501C3 laws and get caught, you are going to lose it all or go away for a while. They take those violations VERY seriously when they catch them. VERY seriously. (Unless you’re CO$, then it’s CRICKETS!)

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Just google charity fraud under news, just for the year 2013. It is rampant, known about in government and interested parties for years, and yet every time I hear a story the IRS repeats that they are underfunded and understaffed, that they only notice problems brought to their attention with enough evidence, and even then first offenses get a slap on a wrist; that the laws don’t have enough teeth.

            The most recent bill passed in Delaware, not a federal bill, and somewhat lame. But then there is this clause that makes the whole attempt moot:

            “Organizations exempted from the bill
            include political organizations, civic associations, religious entities,
            educational organizations and other groups that are exempt under the
            IRS Code.” I mean, why even bother? These are the umbrella categories that are the worst offenders.

            http://news.delaware.gov/2014/01/28/biden-legislators-target-charities-fraud/

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for Feb. 19: *refresh for images*

    Tony: US rank #16,009 – up 452 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 15,580)
    Scientology: US rank #47,895 – down 1,864 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 39,114)

    Difference: 31,866 – 2,316 more than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 23,533)

  • mook

    was just reading these vintage Ted Casablanca blind items and he’s surprisingly right on the money about the cult’s two biggest assets
    http://www.blinditemsexposed.com/search/label/Fey%20Oiled-Tush
    http://www.blinditemsexposed.com/search/label/Seymour%20Plow-Me-More

    • Espiando

      In all this time, people who followed Ted back in the day have never put forward a good argument that Fey Oiled-Tush wasn’t Cruise and Seymour Plow-Me-More wasn’t Travolta. There’s almost as much on them in Ted’s BVs as there is to prove the identity of Toothy Tile.

      • L. C. Spencer

        I never knew who Toothy Tile was…

        • media_lush

          I think Toothy Tile was reckoned to be Clooney

          • PoisonIvyHerself

            I thought it was Jake Gyllenhall?

            • media_lush

              Who was recently outed by Taylor Swift as the guy who took her virginity…. I think “beards” get a double whack bonus with a cherry on top for that kind of thing.

              My ex was best friends with the wife of a top agent back when I lived in NY and I was often privy to some amazing stuff that was literally one step of Bacon away from source.

              Reading Ted’s stuff always did my head in…. prefer Enty

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              I’ve not worked nor have any degree of separation from JG or GC, though I do have a funny Orlando Bloom story (not in any way related to his sexual preference). Personally I really hate the ‘in or out’ gossip items because I know several actors who are suffering or have suffered greatly from being closeted and the rumors often flip out their management, who then push them to hide even more (when that might not even be what they want to do). I have two good friends (both now out at last, both super successful ) who went through this and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. And yes, some actors take it all the way with beard wife/husband and kids (Travolta-style.) I think Ted felt he had the right to spread such rumors because he is SO out and believes everyone else should be, but that’s a pretty sweeping judgement to make. ( But seriously, is there a good looking man in Hollywood who hasn’t had a gay rumor about him at one time? )

            • D.Y.G.

              Oooh…do tell the Orlando Bloom story!

            • Mooser

              “amazing stuff that was literally one step of Bacon away from source”

              Yes, there’s a lotta hams in the business.

            • Espiando

              It was Jake.

          • L. C. Spencer

            Nah, he was supposed to be a “rising young star.” My best guess at the time was Orlando Bloom, but if you search on him at the above links, they seem to say Gyllenhaal.

    • media_lush
  • ze moo

    I have long wondered where CO$ keeps its money and what it invests in.

    “Yatsenyuk has taken charge of a Scientology-funded bank in the Ukraine called Aval Bank”

    http://www.dallasblog.com/201402181010101/dallas-blog/soros-hires-scientologist-to-conquer-ukraine.html

    http://www.aval.ua/en/about/

    I am not sure that $cienos can actually control a bank, even in the Ukraine. Maybe Bulgravia, but the Ukraine?

    • Eclipse-girl

      Isn’t a bank a business? C’mon IRS please start looking into these things.

      • ze moo

        I am suspect that Tom McGregor, the author of the Dallasblog.com article, was trying to smear Soros with a ‘being associated with $cientology’ smear. The Aval Bank is 96.4% controlled by an Austrian bank that is in turn controlled by several regional Austrian banks.

        Given recent events in the Ukraine, I don’t think they have time for can holding or Lroon worshiping. Where are all the ‘way to happiness’ booklets when you need them? The Ukraine could have a nice civil war if they aren’t careful.

        • OrangySky

          Telling, though that “being associated with” Scientology is smear-worthy!

          • Anonymous

            That is the real gem in this story…because of the well documented conduct of the organization, association with Scientology is professional and social suicide.

    • Couch_Incident

      Tony’s checking into whether the alleged SCN connections are true or not (see latest on yesterday’s thread after media-lush posted). Keep in mind that Russia/CCCP is/was famous for disinformation.

      Also of note was that Yatsenyuk was called a “Brazen Jew” by an opponent previously, but has absolutely no connections to Judaism.

      • Tony Ortega

        There’s a lot of really bad information in that Dallas item (including nonsense about the bank), and that makes the ID of Yatenyuk as a Scientologist rather suspect. But I’m reaching out to a Ukrainian indie now to see what he knows.

        • RMycroft

          Nothing about Scientology in the Al Jazeera article, and the Wikiepdia bit is recent and uncited, which is a big no-no in a Bio of Living Persons article. (I’d remove it, but *oops* it mentions Scientology, which blocks me from editing it.)

          I suspect it’s all a George Soros smear.

          • ze moo

            The Soros connection got my attention, I can’t believe that an Austrian bank with 136 billion euros (1.2 billion euros in yearly income, profits) is controlled by the clampire. That level of financial acumen seems to be well beyond their expertise.

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              Think they run the bank with an org board? ;-)

            • ze moo

              An mOrg board couldn’t manage a girl scout cookie sale, let alone a large international bank. The Raiffeisen Bank seems to be a large player investing in former eastern block countries. Austria has a long tradition of being a go-between for Soviet block countries and western capital, they just seem to have expanded their presence after the fall of the Soviet system.

              While any clam could be employed by any bank, their ability to further the clam agenda is severally limited. I smell bullshit…..

            • Mooser

              But, but, what about all those Sci. people at Amex and Visa who can have you clam-credit upped, or get you a second mortgage? Didn’t Steve Mango tell us this?

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              But that would fall into the category of LRH’s admonition for people to get hired ‘near the top of power’ in useful organizations. In other words, don’t become the governor, become the governor’s receptionist. Or don’t try to be president of Amex, just be a cog in the wheel of processing credit apps.

            • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

              Yeah… Also help the governor kill people and cut up and hide the bodies for him and then use that later to blackmail him. (Also in the leadership policy)

            • PoisonIvyHerself

              That darn Hubbard! What a cut up!

            • Mooser

              Stop talking bad about Hubbard! I just got back from R&R and I’m filled with admiration for Indies! The most immediate benefit from Indie Scientology will be adding Scientology’s recognized benefits to medicine. or religion, or something. But darn it, if Scientology (minus Miscavige, of course) isn’t true and good, why have I devoted so much time to it? I’m not a bad person! Are you saying I’m a bad person, because I like Scientology? Well, I’m not, I’m a good person. Miscavige is a bad person.

            • Eclipse-girl

              That would mean they would be losing money, wouldn’t it?

            • RMycroft

              Hmm. I’m out of banks today. How about an investment company? (That’s the Feshbach’s defunct company.)

            • RMycroft

              Yeah, CoS just doesn’t play in those leagues. They’re more hole-in-wall like this: http://www.umsbanking.com/senior_mgmt.html

              The fact the blog post and and Wiki vandalization happened on the same day is a give-away.

        • Mooser

          “But I’m reaching out to a Ukrainian indie now to see what he knows.”

          ‘In Ukraine, Scientology audits you!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            But in Soviet Russia Scientology is against the law and punishable by imprisonment for not less than 25 years in a state sanctioned labor camp.

            • lucille austero

              It’s not Soviet Russia anymore, BUT, leave it to the totalitarians to be able to spot a fellow traveler ($cientology).

            • Mooser

              The funny part (okay, I’m very, very easily amused, we know that) is that the “tech” in Scientology which makes no sense as the first syllable of ‘technology’ actually has some meaning if you think of it as the last syllable in “dialectic”.

            • lucille austero

              Dialectech – arguing about the tech?

        • Captain Howdy

          I was suspicious last night when i checked the service completion list and couldn’t find anything for Yatenyuk, not that the list is the last word, because it obviously has huge gaps in it.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I would check any WISE lists. Big WISE connections in that part of the world and surrounding countries. Found a great big old pile when trying to find information about Evegeny Zharkin, the scientologist who jumped from the Clearwater condo (or fell?).
            Andy Porter wrote about his missions in Russia on Marty’s blog. I wonder if he knows either one of these names?

            http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/my-trip-in-and-out-of-the-church-of-scientology/

      • Couch_Incident

        One last thought before leaving this to the expert, in 2013 he self-identified “as a Christian and a Greek Catholic” in opposing gay marriage: http://lgbtweekly.com/2013/03/20/leading-ukraine-opposition-figure-surprises-supporters-by-denouncing-gay-marriage/

  • Pierrot

    Good day Bunkerites and RED X Gang, I am again attempting to post the link to you know where:

    Happy Flagging

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-52#post-2422086

    • Eclipse-girl

      For protection

      • Pierrot

        Hello there, we missed you yesterday, I hope you are well.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Life, family, snow, …. I am fine. I will get caught up

    • Verve

      The Monkey Horde spanked about 200 hundred posts. $ci- fear my monkeys.

    • Toni m

      Done, No more blues. Don’t like blues.

      • Mooser

        Bye, bye blues!

    • aquaclara

      all flagged. Thank you!

  • Juicer77

    The video is terrific evidence of stalking. If this is to be a jury case, any “normal” person will look at this and say what the he–!! Does anyone think Miscarriage of Justice will head out to sea/overseas to avoid deposition? Or is he such an egomaniac that he doesn’t believe it will ever happen? Personally I hope he does get deposed and his teeny tiny head explodes in rage from the sheer effrontery of being QUESTIONED!!

    • Shannon

      Getting busted on editing the video was so telling too… one incident of talking to the cops that gets cut can not mean much to a judge or jury… but when you begin to ask why and see if other videos are choppy/without sound, an overall picture can crop up real quick…

      • WildaBeast

        Them getting busted on the video was BEAUTIFUL. Waldrip will probably go over the rest of the (holy shit!) terabyte of data with as fine a tooth-comb as possible now. Whatcha wanna bet there’s at least another 100, 150 gigs that should have been, but weren’t, submitted?

  • scnethics

    Oddly, I cannot find any documentary credits for Eliot Abelson on imdb.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Snicker.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Did you check PR Web? heh

    • WildaBeast

      {Really? I’m shocked and appalled!}

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      He’s an up and coming director. No IMDB yet, but you just wait!

  • Tony Ortega

    As a reminder of how attorney Elliot Abelson is used as a front by church officials, I’ve posted the interview of Mike Rinder that we’ve shown numerous times before.

    • Ruby

      Thank you, Tony.

    • OrangySky

      Nice add.

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Tex. Penal Code § 21.15. Improper Photography or Visual Recording. (2007)
    (a) In this section, “promote” has the meaning assigned by Section 43.21.

    (b) A person commits an offense if the person:

    (1) photographs or by videotape or other electronic means records, broadcasts, or transmits a visual image of another at a location that is not a bathroom or private dressing room:

    (A) without the other person’s consent; and

    (B) with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    (2) photographs or by videotape or other electronic means records, broadcasts, or transmits a visual image of another at a location that is a bathroom or private dressing room:

    (A) without the other person’s consent; and

    (B) with intent to:

    (i) invade the privacy of the other person; or

    (ii) arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person; or

    (3) knowing the character and content of the photograph, recording, broadcast, or transmission, promotes a photograph, recording, broadcast, or transmission described by Subdivision (1) or (2).
    (c) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

    (d) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under any other law, the actor may be prosecuted under this section or the other law.

    (e) For purposes of Subsection (b)(2), a sign or signs posted indicating that the person is being photographed or that a visual image of the person is being recorded, broadcast, or transmitted is not sufficient to establish the person’s consent under that subdivision.

    I’m pretty sure Section (b)(1)(B) applies to David Miscavige. If only we could find evidence that he pleasures himself to videos of Marty Rathbun. Maybe that’s why Shelly is locked up.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Great catch, Derek.
      The final note about “a sign or signs posted…” – that is how we get around releases in crowd or public situations. For instance, I’m going to be filming in a restaurant. So at the front of the restaurant I have my PA post a sign, “This restaurant is being filmed for a documentary by X production company. Your presence indicates your consent to be filmed” or whatever language my lawyer du jour gives me. So someone shows up for lunch and realizes that they may end up on TV in the background eating spaghetti. In these cases, every once in a blue moon (RARELY!) you get someone who will say something like, “Look, I booked this reservation a month in advance and they never told me – and I refuse to be on film.” Okay, that person has rights. The restaurant can comp him a future lunch, or maybe we have to set up our cameras so that his table is not in the camera range. But the point is, the people BEING FILMED HAVE RIGHTS. And we, who make REAL documentaries, do not want to risk being sued if we violate said rights.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        People have rights, corporations should NOT because they are NOT people. Which is why this activity should NOT be protected by the first amendment. This is the kind of shit you get in the good ‘ol US where capitalism rules.

    • Sarah James

      David Miscavige has that special ick factor.

  • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

    Hubbard was a big believer in telling “acceptable truths”. The rest of us would call these lies. I know from personal experiences just how selective Scientology – and especially OSA – can be when it comes to telling their version of ‘acceptable truths’. They live in a very strange bubble of reality.

    It’s so nice to see Jeffrey and TeamMonique catching them in the act. I guess all those high-priced Scn attorneys can’t seem to talk Miscavige and his OSA cronies out of their contemptible ways. Keep spending that money Dave because eventually it is going to run out. That bubble is going to pop and you all will have nowhere to hide.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      He lies to everyone else (and most especially, HIMSELF) -so why would he tell his attorneys the truth? He probably has no idea what the truth is anymore!

      • Mooser

        You know what? Sometimes, when I’m not thinking something else, I think Miscavige is only the top dog in Scientology because nobody else wants it!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Scientologists new uniform just approved:

      http://i.imgur.com/GVbMIRql.jpg?1

      Scientology lawyers, PI’s, stalkers new uniform:

      http://i.imgur.com/8P6S3tal.jpg

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        What’s remaining of the executives in the hole have come out to speak.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You mean in court or LA evens coming up?

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            No…in the picture attached to my comment.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Needs more medals…and cowbell. heh

            • Truthiwant

              North Korean Pearly Kings parade.

        • Betsy

          Hah! Why are they just wearing such a tiny percentage of their medals, though?

        • Cat Daddy
  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    All I can say is that those two other private dicks who whined and complained because Scientology stopped paying them and that they couldn’t find a job deserved every bit of it. I wish they had lost everything and been unable to work. Anyone who is willing to carry on this kind of harassment campaign deserves to end up poor and destitute and unable to find work at the very least. No one should hire anyone willing to carry on this kind of campaign, even if they are being paid generously.

    I can understand using these PIs for short term needs that involve concern for the welfare of a family and children, or even to make sure that confidential documents aren’t released by a former employee or something like that, but how long and in what situations can it keep going before it becomes stalking by proxy.

    • richelieu jr

      And I who thought that they were only a bunch of window-peeking, adultery honey-trap setting maggots..

      IN fact, it’s worse than that…

      • Missionary Kid

        “It’s always worst than you think.”
        It’s even worse than you can imagine.

    • WhereIsSHE

      I completely understand the point you are making Derek.
      All I can say is:
      The silver lining to that dark cloud is that Ray Jeffrey successfully represented them against the CoS, and I imagine his take from that settlement is what is funding (or helping to fund) Monique’s case.
      AND
      If Monique is successful, this form of stalking by proxy will likely be the most expensive miscalculation Miscavige has ever made. (OK– maybe the Idle Morgue campaign/SP bldg will top the list, but… you never know. This could be a helluva rival.)

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Good points.

      • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

        Define “expensive,” re the SP building, etc. Mike rinder has estimated that the various donations are salted away and only the interest is used. Which makes the sums involved much less stupid to look at. Anyway, when spending other people’s money, cost is sometimes not so important.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          The expense here would include media exposure, exposure to whales and celebs, and exposure to class action lawsuits in the future now that Ray has done all the heavy lifting.

        • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

          Honestly, I think Scientology has a lot more money than most of us imagine.

          • Troy MacGyver SP

            But they need MORE why with inflation in the next billion years the USD could take a tumble. I wish they would have invested it w/ Madoff,they deserve each other.

      • Eclipse-girl

        ^^^^ x eleventy billion

        • Troy MacGyver SP

          Minus what Lou can smuggle out her snatch everyday.

  • WildaBeast

    First reaction to the video:
    Who is that motherfucker running a goddamn weedwhacker or something in the background during the last couple minutes of the film, where the dude with the camera is outside the car talking to the cop? I couldn’t hear a thing! I think I caught “stalkin'” and “…can’t…public roadway…” but nothing else, really, until dude with the camera says, “I understand”.
    I wish someone with better tech skills and software could filter out that godawful noise.
    Also, the expression on the cop’s face is priceless pretty much throughout. It’s pretty clear he thinks these guys are feeding him a line of shit (which they are), and has a good deal more sympathy with the Rathbuns than he does for these idiots with the camera and the flimsy story.
    They squirm like worms on a hook. Good.

    • WhereIsSHE

      The police officer states that, while he cannot enforce it due to the fact that they are on a public road, he is requesting that they leave the scene, now that they have the shot (of Marty arriving home) that they advised him they were there to obtain for the supposed documentary they claim to be making. Several times he states this his request is made in the spirit of “keeping the peace”. They say they will comply.

      • WildaBeast

        I did catch that part. I was talking about the bit where the cop talks to the guy with the camera, outside the car. You can hear them talking, but there’s some awful background noise that prevents me, anyway, from making out more than a couple of words. The camera is looking at the ground for about 90 seconds; the sound is crazy for about the duration of the ground shot.
        But thanks. I appreciate it. :-)

  • Sarah James

    I just saw the first video and it hit me, these are bottom feeders. Anyone who likes to fish has caught one a time or to. They are the fish that eat the shi+ at the bottom of the river. David Miscavige is the king of the bottom feeders.

  • richelieu jr

    First of all: GO MONIQUE!

    Secondly, in passing– I don’t know how it is now, but things around the 9000 block of Sunset used to be pretty shady at one time. I had a manger who was basically working out of a post office box there, once… (to be sure,t here are also very, very high-class things as well, CAA and ICM at one point, IIRC…)

  • richelieu jr

    What you people her o the fringes of the internet patently fail to understand is that when youa r emaking a documentery about an ‘ex-scientologist kind of a thing’, a scene like Marty returning home in his balc truck is absolutely necessary to set up the hilarious didlo at Monique’s work gag later on…

    There people are artists.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      ;-)

  • Anonymous

    What the conduct of organized Scientology referenced above in Tony’s article demonstrates (again) is that there is no real effort by the church to promote the welfare of the general public, no real effort to improve society, no real effort to improve conditions on the planet, but instead only an effort to get its own way…period.

    Expensive lawyers, private eyes, false press releases, shore stories, harassment of former members, attacks on psychiatry and hard-core pressure on current members and staff to make personal sacrifices of their time, health and finances….THESE ARE THE ESSENCE OF SCIENTOLOGY.

    All the rest of Scientology is window dressing.

    Scientology was a money making operation for L. Ron Hubbard and his family, as evidenced by the tens of millions of dollars in Hubbard’s estate, even though he had no significant source of income beside that which he derived from the church from the time he founded it until the time he died.

    After Hubbard died (under extremely mysterious circumstances) an internal fight ensued for control of the organization and the tens of millions of dollars that continue to flow through that organization every year.

    One person, Sea Org Captain David Miscavige, emerged victorious and he now controls the lawyers, private eyes, false press releases, shore stories, harassment of former
    members, attacks on psychiatry and hard-core pressure on current public
    and staff to make personal sacrifices of their time, health and finances so that tens of millions of dollars continue to flow through Scientology’s corporate shells, thus ensuring that his billionaire personal lifestyle continues without impediment.

    That Scientology does not provide a model for the betterment of society
    could not possibly be illustrated more clearly than by the actual activities
    of the organization as it seeks to cause harm to anyone who challenges
    its leadership.

    Without inurement, first to Hubbard and now Miscavige, there is no substantial reason for the existence of Scientology.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      Don’t forget their operatives at American Express and some of the nations’ most respected institutions/individuals to ensure that their criminal activities continue. When are you going to cover ex-Sheriff Baca and his public connection to the Church of Scamology when he was in office, Los Angeles Times? Still scared of getting Tommy Boy or John Revolta mad at you?

      • Mooser

        The first has been posited, but not proved. And the second gets plenty of coverage.

    • joan nieman

      Anonymous, that is absolutely fact.

    • Betsy

      As always you have said it in the clearest way possible.

      With any “religious” organization one would assume that the leader at least pretended to be some kind of role model. Hubbard did in his weird schizo way. But DM either doesn’t feel the need or is so separated from the concept of moral and ethical appearances that he can’t do it.

      • Anonymous

        The conduct of the organization of Scientology is a reflection of it’s primary leader, Sea Org Captain David Miscavige.

        The conduct of the organization of Scientology speaks for itself, as exemplified by its deployment of more than 20 lawyers in the courtroom in the case of Monique Rathbun v. David Miscavige, RTC, Church of Scientology et al.

        At least one of the 20 lawyers has already admitted that organized Scientology was engaged in a multi-year coordinated campaign of surveillance and harassment against Monique Rathbun.

        Because organized Scientology has been overtly and covertly terrorizing its critics and outspoken former members for decades, the church no longer hires lawyers to deny such behavior. Instead the Church of Scientology now hires lawyers to argue that Scientology’s deliberate domestic terrorism against critics and outspoken former members is protected religious speech.

        After denying stalking, surveillance and harassment for decades, the management of the Church of Scientology now admits that’s what they do (and have done for decades) but that their behavior of domestic terrorism should have religious cover.

        Informed people of good will see the Church of Scientology as a repugnant organization.

        This case is the best possible example of why the church and its leader Sea Org Captain David Miscavige have richly deserved reputations for depraved, unconscionable conduct.

        • Betsy

          Excellent post. I hadn’t thought of the importance of the trial in this light. (Also hadn’t consciously realized that the turning of the lawyers to the “religious speech” thing was probably a planned move based on the fact that it is untenable to state that they weren’t doing covert ops.)

          But hey…it all comes under the job description of a “simple ecclesiastic,” doesn’t it?

  • Miss Tia

    uh, some more haiku tweets…..i think my brain is stuck in haiku mode?

    a war of ideas
    is the lie about texas
    it’s just harassment
    @scientology #TeamMosey #haiku #texas #liars

    filming non-members
    a documentary, LIE!
    tax exempt liars
    @scientology @IRSnews #haiku #IRS #texas #TeamMosey #liars

    niblet hates Marty
    losing his marbles with hate
    crumbles the whole church
    @scientology #haiku #TeamMosey #hate #texas

    it’s freedom of speech
    claims the church, but no one else
    can exercise it
    @scientology #doublestandard #haiku #haters #TeamMosey

    it’s not a real church
    just pay as you go self help
    no more tax exempt
    @scientology @IRSnews #IRS #RemoveTaxExemption #haiku

    This is for the woman on BlackRob’s thread:
    i saw a rainbow
    i postulated for one
    yes it rained before
    @scientology #doh #duh #derp #haiku

    you cannot leave us
    we will stalk you forever
    we miss your money
    @scientology #haiku #stalkers #money #bunnyboilers #fatalattraction

    keep kirstie alley
    tom cruise, jenna elfman too
    give back travolta
    @scientology @kirstiealley @tomcruise #haiku #keepthescum

    Blackhearted niblet
    Causing the church foot bullets
    The question is why?
    @scientology #haiku #blackheart #footbullet

    niblet’s destruction
    church in downward spiral
    takes money and runs
    @scientology #haiku #niblet #thief #fraud #liar

    • aquaclara

      MIss Tia, these are terrific haikus – you have such talent! Thanks for crafting them, and sharing them!

      • Miss Tia

        Thanks so much aquaclara! I’m still sitting here jotting down some more….I even wrote a haiku about writing them….haha….

        why do i haiku
        i have no idea at all
        my brain is broken?

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Honestly I think you have a real gift for this! I love the rainbow one. Beautiful irony!

      • Miss Tia

        Thank you PI!

    • PrairieGirl

      These are wonderful, Tia! They would make good epitaphs for the CO$.

      • Miss Tia

        Thank you!

    • NOLAGirl

      “a war of ideas
      is the lie about Texas
      it’s just harassment
      @scientology #TeamMosey #haiku #texas #liars”

      My favorite. ; )

    • joan nieman

      My fave is the ‘ freedom of speech’ one.

      • WildaBeast

        I’m torn between that and the rainbow one.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Rainbows! “Over the Rainbow” used to be code for Hubbard’s hideaway location. I believe that was one of the California ranch locales, but not sure. Maybe someone else knows exactly?

          • Miss Tia

            No way! I didn’t know that!! Or perhaps I read that somewhere and forgot it? Over the Rainbow could be used as a first or last line in a haiku too….hmmmm….wheels turning…. :)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yep, way. Big wheels keep on turnin’. Go for it!

    • WildaBeast

      You inspired my wife:

      thetans in mirrors
      a spiralling DC-9
      wallets are empty

      • Miss Tia

        Oh that’s a great one, is it okay if I tweet that? giving ‘WildaBeast’s Wife’ proper credit of course!

    • Missionary Kid

      I added these to your previous haiku at http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/#comment-1142332008

      I hope your damn ice dam melts away before the rain comes.

      • Miss Tia

        Oooo thank you! I’ve had haiku twitter posts for a few days now—I really have no idea WHY I started doing tweets as haiku, it’s not like I normally do anything via haiku!!

        It’s melting pretty good today. I think when it rains though it’s gonna leak in as I think there’s roof damage. I also discovered an upper gutter came off. It’ll all be taken care of soon so I just have to wait it—I’m not real good with patience! :)

        • Missionary Kid

          The ice dam kept water from running off the roof, and sent it through a hole in the roofing, probably caused by ice expanding where water got through a pinhole. With the dam gone, I hope that most of the water will run off of the roof. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.

    • sumdayiwill

      Miss Tia..absolutely brilliant.

  • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

    The real meaning behind Battleship Earth:

    Battlefield Earth

    This movie is way too bad to be an accident. It was created to send a clear message to outer space: You suck. Say what you want about Scientologists, but they are better than anyone at making aliens look like assholes.

    Let’s look at the facts. In this movie, aliens came here with their technologically advanced warships and wiped out our planet’s jet fighters in nine minutes. Pretty logical so far, right aliens? But as Battlefield Earth explains, 1000 years later, a few cavemen dust off those ancient jet fighters and kill your John Travolta and his entire family. Humans don’t give a fuck about your alien space logic.

    We’re so goddamn stupid that we don’t even know what can’t be done. Do you know what happens when you let jet fuel sit stagnant for 1000 years, alien? We don’t. In fact, we think we’re fags(ed-wogs) for even asking something so sciencey, but look at who’s dead. You.

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sb27-01t.jpg

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-movies-we-hope-any-potential-alien-invaders-have-seen/

    • ze moo

      It is even worse then you say. The humans who can hardly maintain agriculture, recondition thousand year old atom bombs to throw at the Psychlo home world.

      The main theme in BE is that ‘leverage’, the ability to force another to do your will, is everything. At the end of the book, the Psychlos are effectively extinct and the few thousand earth people are in charge of a new galactic empire. An empire that has hundreds if not thousands of other intelligent species. Lroon enjoyed his pinks and greys, and maybe some mushrooms too….

      • WildaBeast

        Oh my god. It’s almost an insult to drugs to believe they could have anything to do with a plot that bad.

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Please flag! I saw a takedown notice today and it made happier than a clam during high tide.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-52#post-2421938

    1.Street searches:Honolulu ccc=14+1
    http://honolulu.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“1347 kapiolani” “suite 201″
    LA eee=0+1, eee=5+4
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“2101 glenoaks”|”2254 honolulu”
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“21010 devonshire”|”9015 fullbright”
    Sacramento ccc=0+1, ccc=0+1,
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“3825 marconi”|”9063 foothills”
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“3825 marconi”|”9063 foothills”
    SFbay ccc=1+1
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“1865 lundy av*”

    Boston, bbb=14,cc=20, sss=11 -à flag all 02/18 & 02/17
    http://boston.craigslist.org/search/bbb?query=“617 266 9500″|”448 beacon”
    http://boston.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“617 266 9500″|”448 beacon”
    http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=“617 266 9500″|”448 beacon”
    Cleveland, eee=0+1, eee=27+5
    http://cleveland.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“440 499 0294″|”440 567 7287″
    http://denver.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“720 432 3350″|”970 217 8881″
    Houston, ccc=35+1
    http://houston.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“713 974 6295″|”2727 fondren”
    LA ccc=9+2 updated ads!ccc=0+5,ccc=1+2,eee=1+2, eee= 4+1, eee=4+1, sss=4+2,
    Flag them all there not many of them and it is better too much flagging than not enough!
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“310 419 8200″|”310 589 8844″
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“323 953 3200″|”323 953 3206″
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“626 747 7893″|”2101 n* glenoaks”
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“323 953 3200″|”323 953 3206″
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“805 416 6558″|”818 772 7949″
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“818 951 1703″|”818 957 1500″
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=“323 953 3200″|”323 953 3206″
    OC ccc=2+7 (X all), sss=14+1, Feb 16 are mainly updates, X them,
    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“714 283 2134″|”714 544 5491″
    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=“714 283 2134″|”714 544 5491″
    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=949 297 4446
    SA sss=0+1, ccc=3+11 X-all, ccc=1+0, eee=29+5,
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=“916 962 2217″|”916 962 7596″
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“916 519 5287″|”916 782 1272″
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“916 962 2217″|”916 962 7596″
    http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“916 519 5287″|”916 782 1272″
    SFBay ccc=2+1,eee=2+1, eee=13+3
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=“408 428 2424″|”408 656 9276″
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“408 428 2424″|”408 656 9276″
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“415 864 3940″|”510 342 9121″
    Ventura, ccc=2xfeb18, eeee=18+3,
    http://ventura.craigslist.org/search/ccc?query=310 419 8200
    http://ventura.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“818 772 7949″|”949 302 5663″
    Wichita, eee=2xfeb18
    http://wichita.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=“316 682 8080″|”3705 e* douglas”

    • OrangySky

      Wow you got flagged so quick, Derek!

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        That’s not my ad, that’s Scientology’s add being taken down!

        • OrangySky

          OH! Yay then!

          • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

            All flagged on the computer, now to use the iPad where it’s just touch, touch, flag.

    • PrairieGirl

      Thanks for posting the links, Derek. All flagged. I’m just happy to see blue turn purple.

    • Eclipse-girl

      If people go to WWP, go a bit further up the page, there is a long list from Canada.

      • PRenaud

        All done…

    • Mooser

      But not Seattle! Right? That’s great!

    • Toni m

      Done. Good bye blues. You are not welcome!

  • http://www.angrygaypope.com/ Angry Gay Pope

    Deleting the sound from incriminating videos the enter as evidence is standard procedure for them. Then they make up some excuse that the camera malfunctioned at the time or they forgot to record sound or blah blah … yeah right.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      You should know, AGP! This time, however, they had an original! Bam! (Hope they have more not yet produced!)

    • RMycroft

      Their first stage to edit and redact. Next, they’ll delete it all and say that they accidentally the whole thing.

    • Silence of the Clams

      This is ten minutes of video. Ten minutes of thousands of minutes. Who believes this is the only redacted material? Right…no one. There will be more.

      What irks me is the seemingly casual attitude of Waldrip to the delays, obfuscations and tampering. I fully realize he errors on the side of caution bit it is friggin annoying he doesn’t come down hard on them for these b.s. tactics.

      Oh well, keep hope alive!

      • ze moo

        The judge hasn’t ruled on sanctions or penalties yet. The writ of mandamus stops everything until it is heard. Justice is coming, it just takes time and money. Money the clampire will be paying.

  • aquaclara

    Thanks for posting the link to the supporting documents, Tony. I read the transcript of the 10/18 court date, and am struck by a couple of things. Even in October, the Church was pressing on keeping information confidential.
    Kept from Marty and kept from public view. They couldn’t say WHAT needed to be confidential, though.

    It was denied, as the judge saw no reason to break up the marital bonds. So then the Sci lawyers came back with another attempt this month with another “keep info confidential” but this time from both Marty and Monique – thus the “lawyers only” fun that they tried in court. It retained the marital bonds thing, but still misses on a big point.

    Usually, the need to protect trade secrets is to keep the disclosed information INSIDE, that is, from reaching competitors. But here, Marty already knows all the secrets, or most of them. So why are they trying so hard to keep the information labeled and away from him?

    It’s not to keep it confidential. It’s to keep it from Marty. Who can speak up about what he knows. And then point out the lies.

    • Tony Ortega

      They then tried to pull the same thing in February, and again Judge Waldrip had to explain to them that he wasn’t going to come between a husband and wife as far as document confidentiality. It’s very characteristic of Scientology — just keep lobbing the same arguments over and over, mainly as a time-wasting strategy.

      • NOLAGirl

        They also seem to continue to harp on the copyright argument even though this isn’t a copyright case and if that were the problem, they could have filed a suit for that years ago. I suppose this too falls under the time wasting category.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Time doesn’t exist in scientology. Not time as you and I know it. Ask any scientologist and they will tell you they don’t have any time. So the concept of wasting it doesn’t exist either. No, I’m serious. Every scientologist also has heard this 2 + 2= 5 mantra over and over: It’s never about time or money. Never. Of course, this is only true for the king con at the very top of the pyramid. He always has unlimited money and time, or so he believes.

          It’s always two o’clock in scientology.

          http://i.imgur.com/nQgLKLCl.jpg

          • NOLAGirl

            LOL!! What can I do but shake my head at the silliness?

            They may want to clay demo time behind the walls of a Federal Prison. From what I understand it moves even slower than our lowly wog time. :)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              It’s not silly when the conditions you will endure the following week center solely on the stats you turn in on Thursday at 2:00 p.m. It’s the same for public. If stats are crashed in an org, public can expect a barrage of non stop calls, emails, pounding on their doors and screaming in their faces.

              The one thing that took me the longest to recover from was not waking up in a sweat on any Thursday morning. It is a very common nightmare/trauma among ex members.

            • NOLAGirl

              I wasn’t making fun of what you went through love. ((((HUGS)))) I’m so glad you’re free of that constant barrage of crazy. I hope you continue to be blessed with good things in your life, you most certainly deserve it.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh, I know you weren’t, Nola. We have many newcomers lately so though I’d explain the reference. and tks.

            • Betsy

              I’m a newcomer and never-in, Mr. Hole, and I very much appreciate all that you tell us. I’m sure that for other survivors it is an oft-told tale, but to me it’s just one shock after another.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              (Ms. Hole.)

            • Betsy

              Oh, eek! I’m covered in embarrassment…thanks for the tip.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Here’s Jeff Hawkins ethic series on the Bunker about statistics and scientology to give you more of the scene and feel. Hubbard insisted there was no reason for stats to not be up other than you were an evil SP or connected to one (PTS) or just plain riddled with crimes. Insatiable greed…he even admitted it in one of his lulzy affirmations.

              http://tonyortega.org/2013/11/07/statistically-speaking-jefferson-hawkins-takes-us-into-scientologys-numbers-fixation/

            • Betsy

              Thanks for this — very informative.
              I’ve read only a little bit about WISE…is the statistics-based technique the primary thing WISE “brings” to its lucky clients?

            • MaxSpaceman

              Here’s the thing about the 2pm stats sh1t that Lafayette R H started and Davey the Rancid Runt Misscabbage perpetuates that is the most revealing of the STUPIDITY of L. Ron Hubbard “business administration.”

              Jefferson Hawkins took an archaic sloppy book from 1950 and 2 generations after it devised a worldwide marketing campaign that jetted the book from nowhere-obscurity back onto the New York Times best seller list and best seller lists all over the world. And week after week, his department in the SeaOrgre and he in his position were ^ ^ ^ Upstate Upstate Upstat ^ ^ ^ really really big time. Huge revenues streaming in. Massive publicity ancillary to the success of the book simply by its success.

              But then, like any best selling book, or successful movie, or successful song, the sales slowed, and slowed and eventually the item stops selling. And when the stats went down for Jefferson, bang-zoom-to-the-moon he and his unit were denigrated and the Vulture down stat monitoring Sea Org’ers made their life sh1t because of those down stats.

              When I realized that was the ‘game’ — Eller Aitch the sick dick had created — that no success would ever be success enough; no job well done would ever be a job well done enough; no performance of any kind in any part of HubbardWorld would ever be good enough, as they would all fail – eventually – they would all slide down stat for punishment on the down stat staff.

              That’s when I totally got how he had enslaved his contract players. And not only that, he had enslaved them all for the dick-wadd amount of time of a billion years. Really — makes Lafayette like the Ultimate Asshole.

            • Betsy

              Man…you said it, Mr. Max. I ordered JH’s book a day ago on someone’s recommendation. Your post makes me think of the opening of Jamie de Wolfe’s theatre piece — “He was a shepherd who enslaved his flock.” Sick dick indeed. Talk about the ultimate pyramid scheme.

            • MaxSpaceman

              ‘Tis a smart thing to do, Exist – and it’s like a public service, only it’s a Bunkeroo service. And *greatly* appreciated. Because there are so many newcomers and the same basic questions get asked over and again, as can only be expected. So putting up some of the realities of life-in, is ultra grand. Thank you!

          • Sibs

            Huh. Makes sense with the whole time track nonsense and billion year contract stuff, but never actually heard anyone put it that way before.

        • Betsy

          You’re right, this must be the reason. The actual premise has been dead for quite a while.

    • NOLAGirl

      I like how they continue, in that same argument, to list “financial information” in the list of things to be kept confidential. Yeah….wouldn’t want any of that to get out. :)

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    So, what the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is doing is free speech protected battle of ideas. And it’s also protection of their trade marks and copyright and so on and so forth. Right? And neither of these activities (the battle of ideas or the commercial protection) has anything whatsoever to do with Captain David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige. And the video of which one minute was turned over to Team Monique was actually filmed in order for the Co$ to film John Sweeney.
    I can see if takes more than 21 lawyers to represent that many notions at the same time. I stand by my estimate of 27 lawyers needed in court for this (I believe the highest we’ve had so far is 22).

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thanks for throwing in the Mike Rinder interview, Tony. It is an important piece in the chess game that is often overlooked or hidden from newcomers.

    One of the reasons there are campaigns to hunt down former scientologists every few years is to find out where they are in their recovery and decompress process and in so doing are getting ready to speak or act in some away to expose scientology fraud or crimes. Somewhere in some musty old folders OSA has a list of those who might know too much, a list of those crimes and most important: When the Statute of Limitations expires.

    Those who operated at the very top of the food chain seem to be surveilled intensely non stop annually. Tthose who were ever in OSA or GO or very top strata directly under Hubbard or Miscavige, this I don’t know but the more stories and reports come out, it appears more and more likely that surveillance never ends completely.

    Just imagine that for a second. If you were close to the top or OSA, part of your recovery kit should include an official trip to a lawyer and slapping the list of applicable Statutes of Limitations he hands you on your fridge. Where you can see it every day. A reminder to check the batteries in your video camera system and keep the recording feature set to “on”.

    Miscavige has thrown so many in the hole that he now has to rely on outsourcing. While money talks, jail time balks even the greediest of scumbags. Outsourcing is risky business, right Tom?

    http://i.imgur.com/ZJ1YHY6l.jpg?1

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Disqus double posted the double spy. hah

  • Snake Plissken

    Tax exempt stalking and harassment of private citizens at their place of residence.

    • Sejanus

      but , but ..it is their sacrament….lol
      those peckers.

      • Snake Plissken

        The Honorable Reverend John Gotti should have started a church too when he was preforming his sacraments.

        • Captain Howdy

          Funny you mention Rev. Gotti because Eliot Abelson was his attorney also.

          • RMycroft

            I wonder why he’s not any more. Was it for conduct that the Gottis felt reflected poorly on them?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            2015 Movie: “Gotti: In the Shadow of My Father”, Anthony Hopkins, John Travolta, Kelly Preston, Ella Bleu Travolta. The Gotti family are paid consultants.
            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1801552/

            http://i.imgur.com/qu912kMl.jpg

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2144731/So-hes-gay-Mob-widow-Victoria-Gotti-defends-John-Travolta.html

            • Captain Howdy

              The only difference between the Mafia and the Church of Scientology is that the Mafia actually goes to Church on Sundays.

              Somebody around here came up with one a while back.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Um, mwah? Also this: Joining scientology for the wins is like joining the mafia for the sauce.

            • Captain Howdy

              I thought it was you. THDNE FTW!…Again!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              every now and then

            • Snake Plissken

              That one literally had me laughing out loud

            • OrangySky

              At least you can predict the sauce will be pretty good every time around…

            • MaxSpaceman

              Good info, Exist.! If the Director is good, this could be a huge picture for Travolta.

    • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

      This is religious behavior.

  • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

    As we wait for Waldrip’s decision, we’re expecting that Ray Jeffrey, Monique’s attorney, may re-file a motion for sanctions.

    Considering the crimes that these Scientology criminals have been committing against Judge Waldrip’s court room, Waldrip really should summarily find in favor of Monique and find these Scientology mobsters guilty on all charges.

    At minimum some Scientology lawyers and ringleaders need to go to prison for refusing to comply with the subpoenas Judge Waldrip handed down. We need these Scientology criminals and their hired crooks to pay for their crimes against society.

  • WildaBeast

    Totally OT, but if Missionary Kid is around: is this on your list of ‘Things Said About Scientology’? I saw it on exscn.com, in the signature of a user named clamicide, and laughed myself sick.

    “I joined a religion started by a
    science fiction writer that used a double cross as its symbol, and then
    they tried to sell me a bridge…..what could have possibly gone wrong?”

    • MaxSpaceman

      lulz!

    • Ken

      That be exscn.net and then the ESMB message board. …. not dot com

  • OrangySky

    I think I’d like to see a video from Weaphucken & Howe LLC right about now….

  • Scream Nevermore

    ‘Is she here?’. Yeah, they were waiting for Marty, of course they were – I’m sure he insists on being addressed as ‘she’. Creepy, stalker bastards.

  • Mark

    UK Craigslist isn’t quite as clear as we thought – one remaining obstinate old ad from the dread Watkinses simply refuses to budge: http://london.craigslist.co.uk/search/ccc?query=%22chris+watkins%22%7C%22kelly+watkins%22
    Could anyone with a spare moment please flag it? It’ll console us for the horrifying possibility that Shortarse probably passed through GB on his way to & from the Danish {org opening} ;-)

    • Toni m

      Done.

    • PrairieGirl

      Done, Mark. The ad is from January and may not budge as its a bit old.

      • Eclipse-girl

        But it feels good to flag it anyway.
        Got caught up, I think.

        • Pierrot

          According to the up votes and comments I would say that it must have taken a bit more than 2 dozens of flags to get it down.

      • Pierrot

        check it out it is down!!

        The rules are obviously not the same for the UK. I suspected as much when we took these fresh ads so easily a couple of days ago!

    • Scream Nevermore

      Done.

    • Observer

      Done

    • Sherbet

      Done.

    • Pierrot

      check it out it is down!!

      • Eclipse-girl

        Not for me?

        • Pierrot

          click on the link and it shows flagged for removal!

          • Eclipse-girl

            I wonder if because I am on a different continent than either of you, it didn’t show up as flagged until several minutes later

            • Pierrot

              As I did mention before, I have a feeling that CL might be a kind of franchise and each country or state has a franchisee and possibly their own servers all networked. And each franchisee can customize the rules to a certain levels. This is only suppositions.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I have been thinking similar thoughts.

      • Mark

        HOORAY! (I knew if I went and made dinner something’d happen!)

        • PrairieGirl

          well done!

    • Robert Eckert

      “Nothing found for that search”!

  • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

    I met Abelson. He is a nice man, a true humanitarian, salt of the Earth. He never once worked for the Gambino Mafia in pornography and prostitution, he is among the best of the best humans on this planet.

    • Mooser

      One might, in fact, go so far as to say he’s the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being you’ve ever known in your life, and even now you feel that way – this minute?

    • Toni m

      How can you say that he is all that wonderful person when he has been a lawyer for scientology for a long time? In Spanish it is a say “Dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres” “tell me who you friends are and I tell you who you are”. “Long times” means he has been helping scientology in the destruction of many individuals and families.

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        VM didn’t use the sarcasm brackets.

        • Toni m

          He is the one who needs to clarify it. It doesn’t look like a joke to me.

          • Eclipse-girl

            VW should have used them. VM doesn’t like scientology one bit, and I am pretty sure in an ex. I took it as satire, knowing the posts that VM usually makes.

            Yes, the use of { } would make it much easier.

    • MaxSpaceman

      snark alert [sans brackets]

    • Toni m

      Look if you were joking I apologize to you from my heart. I’m sorry. But please the next time let me know it’s a joke. I was so upset that I just ate a pound of butter pecan ice cream (it was good do) but it isn’t good for my sugar and my weight. Well, you know how it is, we need to blame somebody. I enjoy your comments (no this one do). Sorry again.

  • Eclipse-girl
    • Captain Howdy

      So how can we be sure they’re scientologists and not just serial killers?

      • Sherbet

        The difference being what?

        • Captain Howdy

          Serial killers have a sense of humor.

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            I hate to say it, but their stuff has better re-sale value too.

      • Eclipse-girl

        They are both sociopaths. Does it matter?

    • aegerprimo

      Late to the game today, but they are…

      • Eclipse-girl

        Every bit helps.

  • http://www.cosvm.com/ Volunteer Ministers

    Looks like Eliot Abelson needs to be added as one of the defendants, doesn’t it?

  • OrangySky

    In perusing the mind-numbing documents above, it occurred to me that Scientology is broken-record-style accusing Marty of “encouraging Scientologists to steal documents and saying he’ll protect them.” But the exhibits show otherwise: Marty is clearly saying that Scientology has no right to take away your free speech (even though you’ve signed a “contract” to that effect) and if you believe that, a crime is being committed (or will be committed against you if you leave) you have the right to keep the proof of that crime to show authorities or use in your defense. He also is clearly saying that he’ll help provide a real attorney to defend those rights. IANAL but I believe what he’s saying is that no NDA prohibits you from giving testimony of a crime, which is true across all states I am pretty sure. (See first two items w/yellow highlights attached below)

    Also, they include an item from Marty’s blog in their dox (last, longer item attached below) where Marty pretty clearly says he doesn’t care about people in the church who want to stay in, only those that Miscavige has already thrown away.

    All of Mosey’s FACEBOOK posts etc. make total sense in that she is exhorting her friends to help stop the church committing the kind of acts of disconnection, Fair Game and harrassment that she and Marty were undergoing at that very moment…and that she’s now suing over. IMHO, they include a lot of
    “exhibits” that make them look pretty darned evil. I wonder how that will play to a brand spanking new appeals court?

  • media_lush

    “so maybe the words of L. Ron Hubbard as taught to him by a 15-year-old who always looks constipated will sort his shit out.”

    Michael K’s take on Jaden Smith and Shia LaDouche

    http://dlisted.com/2014/02/19/jaden-smith-is-here-for-shia-ladouche-if-he-needs-a-fellow-insane-person-to-talk-to/

    • Sherbet

      I’ve seen Jaden’s tweets before, and I’m always struck by the bad spelling and syntax (not to mention The Flotilla Of Inappropriate Capital Letters). I can’t attribute that to home schooling, because some home schooled kids are brilliant. Spend a few bucks, Will and Jada, and get the kid a tutor. If this “artist” wants to be a real presence in film, he’ll need to hone his image with more class, intelligence, and refinement. Well, he won’t NEED to, but it would be refreshing. He’s just a kid, so I’m cutting him a bit of slack.

    • aegerprimo

      “…trailer trash peepaw…”
      Some a dem’s mah naybors y’all.
      LOL
      Anyway – Jaden being a Scientologist, believes the thetan (him, his spirit) is trillions of years old and has lived countless past lives. This idea gives Scientologists the idea they know it all because they HAVE known it all, and done it all, on their whole tracks. Jaden thinks he is an ancient thetan in a little boy body (I mean adolescent body). His tweets look like typical Scientologist arrogance (and damn hard to read with the excessive capitalization of every word.) At least he has not adopted exCLAMation tech yet.

  • TXCowgirl

    So, I decided to take a little Bunker break and play some computer solitaire. On my first game, what pops up: a freaking banner ad for an online $ciloon marriage course. Is nothing Co$-free???

    • TXCowgirl

      Wow, that pic is huge! Sorry!!

  • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Hopefully this isn’t a double post but there’s a delightful piece on Cracked called “5 Famous Filmmakers Whose Dream Projects Were Disasters”

    #5. Battlefield Earth

    L. Ron Hubbard decided that Battlefield Earth was going to be made into a movie pretty much the instant he finished writing it, which was news to anyone who actually took the time to read all 1,000 vaingloriously self-indulgent pages. So, he immediately whipped up some screenplay drafts, had copies of the novel sent to John Travolta, and had the Church of Scientology’s in-house literary agency sell the movie rights to the first production company that made them an offer. A screenwriter and producer were hired, a giant inflatable alien was stationed on Hollywood Boulevard to try to raise money for the movie, and the project caved in on itself like a Peruvian mine, because precisely no one in Hollywood was interested in turning this ridiculous book into a movie. Except for John Travolta.

    Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-famous-filmmakers-whose-dream-projects-were-disasters/#ixzz2to3nHzjV

    • Eclipse-girl

      But Ron was not a famous filmmaker

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        The rest of it is mostly about JT trying to pitch the film and there’s a little blurb about how the production company actually embezzled $30mil of the budget…which I didn’t know.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Neither did I. I thought it was scientology who fronted the $ for the film, which was the reason DM got to micromanage it

          I would assume that if scientology lost the $ because someone embezzled from them, it would be like stealing from the mob.

          I should read the article. Maybe later tonight.

        • ze moo

          Producers and other ‘insiders’ are always getting blamed or caught with ‘accounting errors’ on movies. JT claimed that BE did finally make money, after it went to DVD. I find that hard to believe. It had a 73 million budget and Widkipedia says it only made 29.7 mill at the box office. I don’t believe it made 43 mill on the DVD market. Hell, I got mine in the $5 bin at Best Buy….And I still felt I was cheated…….

          • Eclipse-girl

            Fewer and fewer people buy DVDs these days.

            • ze moo

              Netflix and other movie streaming services along with high speed internet, make dvds hard to justify. Emerging tech beats old tech every time. I just wish Mystery Science Theater had a change to do Battlefield Earth.

      • Cat Daddy
    • deathtoallpoliticians

      whatup, derek? i hope that all is well. i know that we have had our immediate differences lately but i thought you may like a shithouse cinema preview of the battlefield earth movie. it is quite funny and hosted by an irish guy who us nothing short of hilarious. i hope you enjoy, my friend. cheers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Z1VaEmNk0

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        Ha! Is it like Science Fiction Theater 3000? I love those!

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          totally, my friend. enjoy! cheers!

          • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

            That was epic…

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              i was hoping that you would like it, derek. no hard feelings about prior posts, my friend. at least i hope so. i meant nothing and, most certainly, no offense. as a fellow bunkerite, i owe you the total and utmost respect due to any poster. my apologies. cheers!

    • Charlotte

      I had to watch BE once. A flatmate read and loved the book (!!) and was dying to watch the movie version (!!), so we rented it. Yeah. He spent the whole length of it justifying how bad it was by saying ‘there’s so much source material; the book is so epic, they couldn’t possibly have put everything in; the book is heaps better’.

      I moved out shortly thereafter.

      • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

        They made us in the Sea Org watch it two or three times (paid out of pocket from our $20/wk of course).

        • Charlotte

          of course!

  • Sarah James

    Tory has a good video with Mark Fisher. Then I found what Mark wrote about his lovely experience with Fair Game on facebook. David Miscavige, I just don’t have the words. McScamer has made Fair game his lifes work. How does he write this up on a resume? Oh, he doesn’t, just lives on cherch money.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtCVOhhf9Uw

  • DeElizabethan

    Well, what a day! It’s been like sitting in the courtroom itself, while reading all the happenings. Sure was interesting and exciting at times. I throughly enjoyed it, tho only half understood the words. That was supah Tony, thank you.

  • valshifter

    ‘Wallace Jefferson (formerly the chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court) on Friday filed a petition for a writ of mandamus, hoping to derail Judge Waldrip’s order that David Miscavige could be deposed.”
    IT SHOWS DESPERATION, they know they are not making a dent with the Judge. How arrogant, litle boots don’t care what the Judge has to say, he has the money to buy the bigger boys.

    • Eclipse-girl

      It is how court cases with scientology work. when ever they can delay, they will. It doesn’t matter that this screams of desperation. t doesn’t matter that Wallace probably knows it will fail. Wallace wants to collect his big fat paycheck.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      “We’re waiting to see if the Texas Third Court of Appeals will allow the
      petition and grant Jefferson the ability to file for the writ.”

      My pinkie finger says if that doesn’t happen, M. W. Jefferson will disappear from the legal team forever. Let’s call it a mutually agreed parting of ways.

  • Tony Ortega

    BIG POST coming in a few minutes.

    • http://askanex.wordpress.com/ Derek

      Please tell me it says, “Miscavige Indicted on criminal charges of human trafficking and solicitation in 15 jurisdictions”.

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      greetings, mr. ortega. i know that everyone has expressed their thanks for your hard work and dedication but i feel it necessary to thank you myself, individually. thank you so much for your hard work and dedication. i would know basically nothing about the abuses within the co$ without you. and for that, i am bound for lifetime in your service and faith. you make me unbelievably proud for standing up where others wilt. thank you so much. cheers!

  • Great White Clam

    I know this is Off Topic, but…

    The $cientology cult claims that the cult is, has always been and will always be compatible with the religion of Christianity. A reasonable initial thought is that this means “compatible” in the sense that a person who is a Christian, and who then becomes a $cientologist, can continue to be a Christian.

    But how can that be, when L. Ron Hubbard himself stated:

    “…Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6, and I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something. But since that time they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity.

    The man on the Cross. There was no Christ….”

    – L. Ron Hubbard, , Assists, lecture of 3 Oct 1968

    Hmm… L. Ron Hubbard said, “There was no Christ.” I can’t think of a position statement more anti-Christian than that.

    I was momentarily confused until I discovered this little gem of wisdom:

    “…For a long while, some people have been cross with me for my lack of co-operation in believing in a Christian Heaven, God and Christ. I have never said I didn’t disbelieve in a Big Thetan but there was certainly something very corny about Heaven et al. Now I have to apologize. There was a Heaven….” – L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB OF MAY 11, AD13

    OK. So L. Ron Hubbard said, “There was a heaven.” Maybe the cult of $cientology is compatible with the religion of Christianity, after all!

    But then, after thinking about what L. Ron Hubbard had actually written, I became monumentally confused. L. Ron Hubbard himself claimed and the clams still claim that he was a great writer, philosopher, nuclear physicist, humanitarian (AKA “mankind’s greatest friend”), rocket scientist, etc., blah, blah, blah… Therefore, I thought that he was unlikely to ever commit anything to paper in public other than what he actually meant, so this statement threw me for a loop: “I have never said I didn’t disbelieve in a Big Thetan…” WTF?

    “never said I didn’t disbelieve” WTF? Was L. Ron Hubbard a actually philocypher rather than a philosopher? Was L. Ron Hubbard actually a nuculer fizzicyst rather than a nuclear physicist? Was L. Ron Hubbard actually an in-humanitarian rather than a humanitarian? Or was L. Ron Hubbard simply a liar and con-man?

    It gets deeper. L. Ron Hubbard stated that he not only believed in the existence of Heaven, but he also actually claimed to have been there!

    In HCOB OF MAY 11, AD13, L. Ron Hubbard stated:

    … Yes, I’ve been to Heaven. And so have you. And you have the pattern of its implants in the HCO Bulletin Line Plots. It was complete with gates, angels and plaster saints – and electronic implantation equipment. So there was a Heaven after all – which is why you are on this planet and were condemned never to be free again – until Scientology…

    … The first time I arrived [in heaven] and the moment of the implant To Forget was dated at 43,891,832,611,177 years, 344 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds from 10: 02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963. The second series was dated to the moment of the implant To Forget as 42,681,459,477,315 years, 132 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds from 11:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963….

    ‘Nuff said.

    $cientology. Putting the BATSHIT in CRAZY for the last 43,891,832,611,177 years, 344 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds from 10:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963.

    LOL

    $cientology. Putting the CRAZY in BATSHIT CRAZY for the last 42,681,459,477,315 years, 132 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds from 11:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963.

    LOfrikenL

    • Sydjazz

      Liar and a conman fits pretty well. Hmm snake oil salesman springs to mind too :D

  • woodrose

    Thanks to Tony for the thorough and readable ongoing coverage of the Rathbun court drama.

    Nothing the cult says about Marty’s behavior is at all relevant, in my mind. If Marty is infringing on CSI trademarks, sue him for copyright infringement. If Marty is encouraging people to steal info from the cult, report him to the local DA for criminal investigation. Nothing the cult did is a reasonable response, even if Marty was committing the wrongdoing they keep accusing him of. And of course, this suit was filed by Monique, and the cult has no possible complaint against her at all.

    So much paper and so many words which cannot possibly obscure or justify the egregious conduct of the cult against Monique. Sugar Ray Awesome just has to keep pushing through the flurry of pointless paper being filed by the cult.

    $200 million for Monique will happen, I’ve confidently postulated. $1 million for each day of harassment, plus another million for the dildo sent to her office. Also a full confession of the cult’s harassment of her posted on the door of every Scilon org worldwide, and a permanent injunction. It will take time, but it’s in the cards. Monique deserves it.

    • InterestedObserver12

      I gave you an up-arrow, woodrose, but it is a matter of support and not conviction. Marty is not a party to this case. We can bitch about that fact all we want but it is not going to change the law as it exists today. You make statements like, “So much paper and so many words which cannot possibly obscure or justify the egregious conduct of the cult against Monique,” without NAMING THE OFFENDERS!! Until we start naming them we are ducks sucking bread in a municipal pond.

    • Sydjazz

      Didn’t hubbard steal the logo from kool cigarettes? Copyright infringement there?

    • Zana

      You are describing them attacking the Wrong Target. Hmmm…. SP stuff.

      I’d love to see them end up with $200 Million. And that’s a great idea… posting a full confession on the door of every Scientology org. :-) Good.

  • InterestedObserver12

    The video is interesting on a number of levels, not the least of which is he civility of everyone involved; Monique, the man working for the cult and the police officer. If people of this quality were working throughout the cult (and law enforcement) it would be without members within a generation.

  • Sydjazz

    What a bunch of c*cksuckers. Omg still filming while the cop was there

  • Eddie Vroom

    Trying to pass that off as filming a documentary practically *screams* knowledge of guilt. No wonder the clams tried to bury it. Also, I believe that LAPD would have immediately asked for their location filming permits.