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On probation and his house of horrors shut down, Tennessee Scientologist talks up Mexico

[Marc Vallieres]

There’s been a lot of press coverage, much of it confused, about a collection of mental health facilities in Cannon County, Tennessee that was run by Scientologists and was housing people who were being held against their will.

The Cannon County Sheriff’s Department recently released a couple of incident reports about a 911 call on February 7 that led them to discover the first victim, a mentally ill 24-year-old man from Beverly Hills, California who was being held in a cabin that had “no obvious amenities for life” except for some sheets, and that was padlocked from the outside. It was the schizophrenic young man who had made the 911 call, and he was rescued by the deputies. Later the deputies returned and found a 48-year-old woman being held in another cabin, and they arrested two caretakers, Hans Snyder Lytle and Denis Flamand (not Flamond, as the press has it), who pleaded to false imprisonment misdemeanors and got a year’s probation.

The owner and manager of the facilities, collectively known as Life Center For A New Tomorrow, is longtime Scientologist Marc Vallieres. He was charged with two felony counts of facilitation of kidnapping. The Cannon County circuit court clerk told us that Vallieres was allowed to enter a diversion program and was sentenced to two years of state probation.

But that apparently hasn’t stopped Vallieres’ ambition to offer Scientologists an alternative to psychiatric care for their loved ones who are “Type 3” — Scientology jargon for people with psychoses.

According to Facebook postings to private groups maintained by fellow Church of Scientology members, Vallieres says he has been operating his Life Center in Tennessee for 15 years, and has tried numerous times to expand it.

From our previous reporting, we know that Vallieres had worked directly with the Church of Scientology to offer a place where members could be sent for Scientology methods of treating the mentally ill. We wrote about a severely ill woman who made two runs for freedom from Life Center before she was taken to Arkansas and was held in a basement for a year until she was rescued. Another woman, Barbara Cordova Oliver, was a fixture at Scientology’s Hollywood Celebrity Center who had a nervous breakdown and was sent by her husband to Life Center. When we called Vallieres and asked him about Barbara’s condition, he referred us to the Celebrity Centre.

And there are other connections linking Vallieres and the church itself. In 2013, Church of Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw put out a press release praising Vallieres for his work getting Scientology’s views on drug abuse into local schools. Even today, Scientology front group Citizens Commission for Human Rights recommends Life Center For A New Tomorrow as an alternative to psychiatric care.

We asked former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder about Vallieres, and he told us there was no question that the church was aware of what Vallieres was doing, and approved of it.

Previously, we talked to family members of the two victims who were rescued from Life Center in February, leading to the facilities being shut down. One of them told us that Vallieres planned to leave Tennessee and start up his operation somewhere else, but he wouldn’t tell us where.

And what about Vallieres himself? He hasn’t responded to our phone calls and emails, but we did find that he’s had interesting things to say about Life Center For A New Tomorrow on Facebook.

Here’s how he described his project on February 19, 2016, almost a year before his facilities were raided and then shut down.

I currently own 5 locations in TN USA which care for people with mental difficulties, or people on psych drugs who want to come off them. It became clear that some of them would never fully recovered due to brain damages caused by drugs or psych treatments. To return them to society was not an option as they would soon after find themselves back in a psych ward.

I wanted to find a solution for them. I bought 124 acres with the idea that I would build 40 cabins on the land, each cabin being a house for those people. The plans for the construction is all approved and I even set up a nonprofit organization in the hope that I would get donations to build those cabins and get the project going. But as we all know, trying to get donations for a project is a major enterprise and I abandoned the idea.

However, I managed to set up 2 houses on the property. One has 5 bedrooms, 3 full bathrooms. The bedroom are large enough to lodge 2 people. The other house has 2 bedrooms.

In TN, it is not difficult to get someone on social disability. The average amount they then receive is $750 per month. Most of them also qualifies for food stamps for about $200 per month. I calculated at that time that if I had 6 residents, it would cover all my costs (mortgages, electric, taxes).

Each client would pay $700 per month. That would cover the rent and the salary for on staff residing on the property to watch over and do the cleaning etc.

The family of the clients would then cover the food that would not be covered by the food stamps. And they would have the option to pay per hour for extra services such as going in town for shopping, going to a movie, etc. We even have an auditor for those would need assists or regular auditing.

There is a barn where we could keep horses and animals. The 124 acres is isolated, no neighbors, trails in the wood and we could set up ouside activities, a garden, etc.

That in a nutshell was the project. It will happen but I need to expand the Life Center for a New Tomorrow even more so I can finance the final touch for this project. Hiring staff is not a problem. Getting any kind of license for the project is not a problem. I managed to get one for 6 years form the Dept of Mental Health of TN to operated the center. I then manage to get rid of them once I realized their rules and regulations were slowing me down.

Marc Vallieres

 
Vallieres may have told his fellow Scientologists that he “got rid” of his state licensing because state regulations were slowing him down, but according to a 2014 account in the Tennessean, Life Center came up deficient after a site visit by regulators.

On Dec 7, Vallieres announced that he was looking for new staff, and experience in working with the mentally ill was not necessary…

 

The Life Center for a New Tomorrow in TN, has helped and is continuing to help a lot of families that have been harmed by the psychiatric industry. Currently the Life Center is booming with new arrivals and we really need to add staff like yesterday otherwise some of the clients that should be coming here to receive the real tech on mental help will end up in the hands of psychiatrists. I need people who can take care and watch the clients. You don’t need to be very well trained, we can help with that. If you think you could come for only one month, that would help me to hold the forth until we find permanent staff. If you are interested please contact me at owner@lifecneterforanewtomorrow.com

thank you very much. We have a chance here to replace psychiatry with the only workable tech that exists and we should take that opportunity to expand greatly and rapidly.

Marc Vallieres

 
But here’s what we found most interesting. On April 21, less than a month ago, and well after patients had to be rescued from his facilities, Vallieres announced that he was going to open a new facility in a tiny village in Baja California, Mexico.

 

EXPANSION NEWS FROM THE LIFE CENTER FOR A NEW TOMORROW

For the past 15 years, the Life Center for a New Tomorrow in Tennessee USA has helped many people who had type 3s condition or some mental difficulties, restimulation and people on psych drugs that wanted to wean off them. The original goal on the Admin Scale for the Life Center was to eventually created a facility that would be licensed just the same as a psych hospital but which would of course not use any psych treatments or drugs but would rather use the only workable technology of the mind from LRH.

Because of the legal restriction and abuse of power from the psychiatrict industry, it has been difficult to move toward that goal. Therefore, I have decided to expand the operation and open a facility in Mexico. I have found a very good location in Ejido Ignacio Zaragoza. It is about 40 minutes from Ensenada Baja CA in a small village. I already have clients waiting to go there as soon as I open.

What I need now is one staff to begin the operation. I need someone who is bilingual. A trained auditor would be best of course but it is not needed at the beginning. I need someone who had good TRs, patience, can confront psychotic type cases and is willing to relocate to live on the property. The staff also needs to be able to work legally in Mexico. We can help with work permit.

Once we began operation and have 3 clients or more, I will hire another staff. The property is located on 1.5 acre. It is a large 3-bedroom house. About one mile from the house the same owner has a 60-acre parcel of land, totally isolated and beautiful. The idea is to build the ideal hospital on that property once we are ready.

If you or anyone you know might be interested please let me know. You can email me directly at owner@lifecenterforanewtomorrow.com. In order to get rid of psychiatry, we need an alternative where people can go. The Life Center for a New Tomorrow is that alternative.

Marc Vallieres

 
Yesterday, we contacted the Tennessee Department of Correction and spoke to a director of communications. She told us that according to their records, Vallieres was in compliance with his probation, and a home visit had been completed. She told us that the state was not aware that Vallieres might be planning to expand his operation to Mexico.

When we asked if Vallieres is allowed to leave the state of Tennessee during his probation, she told us that some exceptions are made when an offender on a border county wants to cross a state line for a job, for example. But Mexico appears to be out of the question.

Still, these Scientologists seem determined to find a place where they can hold severely mentally ill people in primitive conditions out of the public eye. They are, after all, on a mission from L. Ron Hubbard.

 
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Chris Shelton on Scientology and mental health

 
Says Chris: “With the Tennessee story still in the news, I realized now was the time to get the full story out on L. Ron Hubbard’s false claims and pseudoscience ‘tech’ about mental illness and the tragic results that come from using it.”

 

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Oh, this is rich. Deny the origins of the Holocaust with one front group, and promote understanding of the Holocaust with another — Scientology has all bases covered!

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans, and book your room soon!

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,747 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,850 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,344 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,384 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,096 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 622 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,711 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,851 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,171 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,146 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 502 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,804 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 911 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,313 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,186 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 767 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,272 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,516 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,625 days.

 
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  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    A little OT post to bring some cheer amidst continued sordid Scientology skullduggery.

    I have a new work colleague: a wild baby bunny! Catty will doubtless attempt to disembowel him without delay so for now I shall refrain from anthropomorphising him and he will remain nameless. If he survives the week I shall name him Bertie (renamed Stu on the fly) and give him a complex back story as is my wont. F5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfe119d77eff6993fe04300acfe9941d0b2dd52a8cb7a9780822bcf4b797e98d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a5f8e6bd9506502966dfae202c9e02dcfd3da68600adc4cf6e66a8901b51503.jpg

    • stanrogers

      I, for one, have already added the waistcoat.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        And a little handkerchief tied to a stick filled with Stu’s (thank you, Daisy!) worldly goods?

        • stanrogers

          But of course!

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            To include a tin whistle and small pair of stout rubber boots.

            • EmmaDaoust

              Wellies

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Wellies to you, too, missus!

              (I have very adult blue polka-dot wellies.)

            • EmmaDaoust

              My cat’s name is Missus. She does not wear wellies nor a gingham pinafore.

    • daisy

      I will refrain from reading your posts until I do not know what happens. I already love the bunny and his name is Stu.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Then Stu it is!

        (Even though my eye is seeing Stfu. I’m sure Stu is cool with that. He’s a wild kid.)

        • Sherbet

          I’m seeing “rabbit stew.”

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Uh-oh, that bodes ill 😛

            • Sherbet

              I think you should go back to your earlier resolve and nix the back story until it’s safe to do so.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Then Stan really needs to stop filling in the blanks in such glorious technicolour!

            • stanrogers

              I have seen the cook try again and again to prepare the hasenpfeffer, and the rabbit always wins.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              “Hasenpfeffer is a traditional German stew made from marinated rabbit or hare, cut into stewing-meat sized pieces and braised with onions and a marinade made from wine and vinegar.”

              Cover your ears, Stu! Stan has gone rogue.

              http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/woah1.gif

            • stanrogers

              Fighting Wikipedia with Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shishkabugs

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Wonderful! 😀

            • Sherbet

              Hey, Captain Kirk, good job with your mime act! Stuck in the glass box, I get it.

            • Sherbet

              I’m seeing Stan with the waistcoat, stout boots, and bundle of worldly goods.

            • EmmaDaoust

              Oh lord, I read that as Satan

              ouch

          • daisy

            The vet did not think it was funny at all.

            • Sherbet

              Tastes like chicken.

          • Vaquera

            When I went away to college, Dad gave my big, white pet rabbits to my aunt (his sister) and her family. They butchered them for the protein. True story.

            • grundoon

              By what divine grace did you not become, after that, a serial killer?

            • Vaquera

              Divine grace. The divine grace was that her husband was a southern itinerant preacher and I understood that, at times, they lived hand to mouth. I was still angry and cried.

            • Sherbet

              That would have killed me, but I do understand food is food.

            • Kestrel

              If only rabbits didn’t exceed my maximum payload. That thing could be the centerpiece of a hockey playoff game viewing party.

            • Sherbet

              I’m calling PETA.

            • Kestrel

              Go ahead. PETA can’t tell us apart and they can’t hassle all of us.

            • Sherbet

              You have rodent-breath. They’ll know.

            • Kestrel

              I can rinse that away with a fresh grasshopper or lizard.

            • Sherbet

              You are not sitting beside me on the Bunker couch. Ever. Scoot! Scoot!

            • Kestrel

              Should you ever opt to bless us with your presence at HowdyCon, I will adjust my diet to one you find more palatable. Perhaps a sparrow or starling. They taste like chicken.

            • Sherbet

              That’s very gracious of you.

      • Observer

        Rabbit stu? :-O

        • Sherbet

          Read on, Observer.

          • Observer

            GMTA!

            • Sherbet

              Daisy is Satan’s spawn fer sher.

        • EmmaDaoust

          ouch
          You have no idea how much I needed that belly laugh, Obs.
          ouch

    • I found a hedgehog once (he got into the kitchen, when the back door blew open). I haven’t seem him lately, but my back ‘garden is small and so overgrown that just about anything could be living there.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Mrs Tiggy-Winkle’s husband!

        • Potter was far too twee for me. I wanted books about rockets and robots.
          Still, he’s an appealing character who snuffles like a man snoring.
          I don’t intend to try to stroke him, however.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            I love hedgepigs 🙂 We had a family of them in our garden years ago and late at night when I would sit outside reading with a torch the mum would bring her babies out to snuffle under my chair. Heartie-melty.

            • Mine’s a small garden, back-to-back with those of the houses in the next terrace (no back land), so he may well have migrated in search of a mate. However – a family would be good.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I think Bertie helped compile the Steele Dossier in an undisclosed location. 😭

  • Taffy Sinclair

    Wow, speaking of these front-ass groups, I am beside myself.

    I had a facebook friend “like” CCHR, and I mentioned it on here. The advice given to me was to straight-up ask him about it. At the time, I was a student in Sarasota, dangerously close to Clearwater.

    I asked him. He ignored me for a few weeks, then I asked again. He says “I only know what I read on wikipedia. What do you think of them?”
    Total $cilon answer, in my opinion.
    I says “I think they are Scientology!” (I mean, it says so on the wiki-site!!!)

    …radio silence…. Think he’s checking w/ someone on how/if to respond to me?? I’m so sad, he was a cool cat, in my Am.Lit & Brit lit classes, we ate lunch together, talked for hours on the phone,,, I never knew!!!!

    Am I too judge-yy???

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Fuck ’em. ‘He ignored me for a few weeks’ should tell you something.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      wow. I’m shocked not one of y’all had any advice. So lame.

  • nottrue

    Recent.. Bradenton Florida.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/620b13bdb7967ce655726a2a20dd56f7b19eb65dbbc97c68b475bb99358cc645.jpg ,, ,, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4497636/Kirstie-Alley-indulges-ice-cream-cigarette.html .. .. Oh my she looks rough. That is one of the better pictures.. I don’t think Jenny Craig is going to be to happy.

    • Sherbet

      I actually pity her. With all her vaunted resources and tech (aka scientology), it’s obvious her weight is climbing again, and she can’t kick the cigarettes. She’s a walking example of how it doesn’t work. It does not work.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Who says, halfway through an ice cream cone, “I need a cig”?

        • Taffy Sinclair

          LRH? Davey Miss-cabbage??

        • Sherbet

          She’s going to use the cone as an ashtray.

          • Observer

            Will she yell at it?

            • Sherbet

              “Thank you.”

            • Taffy Sinclair

              wouldn’t you??

        • Noesis

          Or halfway through a cigarette, “I need an ice cream cone.”

          • Sherbet

            “Let’s see, I have two addictions…how can I indulge in both at the same time?”

        • Liberated

          I think the girl might need another drug rundown.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Fuck me, I used to live in Bradenton!!! For a hot minute!!

    • Observer

      Super classy as always

      • Sherbet

        I hate to say it, but I think she should have stayed addicted to coke. What she got as a substitute (scientology) is just as deadly, without the highs.

    • Rasha

      I work with people who have achieved this exact state for free….. and have the same abilities. Just sayin’.

    • HailToTheSheep

      We’re the same age and she looks better and is thinner than me, so I’m in a big ol’ glass house. It’s her sneering, derisive expression that’s off-putting to me.

    • KingofSweden

      Good god, her criminal dress sense… has she dropped all pretense of being a celebrity? Fully resigned to being a soccer mom? I want to see her shoes.

      • WhiteCentauress

        Lace tennis shoes.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Not to worry, Elron says smoking will cure cancer, so she’s good to go!

  • Jimmy3

    FUCKING RESIGN. NOW.

    • flyonthewall

      Never happen dude. He’ll barricade himself in the WH first and tweet about an attempted coup.

      • Observer

        “The election is over!”

      • Jimmy3

        This is awkward… But I was talking about you. I think you should resign.

        • Sherbet

          He misunderstood, so what he did was re-sign up for Bunker membership.

        • flyonthewall

          resign from what? Existing? It’s basically all I do.

    • Rasha

      *quickly re-signs*

      …how long are Bunker contracts, anyhow?

  • nottrue

    Up 4hr and look at the views . climbing fast.. We have hear all that many times . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72767ec1f9c21e4531b649284353003051dc68369b93fd8b561ddf7194d34fc4.jpg

    • WhiteCentauress

      Is that on YouTube? I’ve had company most of the day and probably missed stuff….

  • J. Swift

    O/T on how the US Gov’t investigates dirty money. There is an agency called FINCEN (Financial Crimes Enforcement Network): https://www.fincen.gov/ FINCEN monitors all movement of money and banks are required to file SRA’s w/o the knowledge or permission of their clients. A FINCEN investigation resulted in the Trump Taj Mahal being fined $10,000,000 in 2015: https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

    FINCEN works with the NSA, NRO, the CIA, and the IRS to track the movement of money, particularly terrorist funding. The US has treaties on banks secrecy with Switzerland and other nations as part of the BSA (Bank Secrecy Act). FINCEN has been through Trump’s financial structure and, beyond the Trump Taj Mahal, has never taken action against any Trump entity. Here is a link to the 2015 FINCEN Assessment of a Civil Money Penalty against the Trump Taj Mahal: https://www.scribd.com/document/348090847/Trump-Taj-Mahal-FINCEN
    Why the media has ignored FINCEN’s $10,000,000 fine of the Trump Taj Mahal baffles me.

    In an all out political war in Congress, and that’s where things look to be heading — the Clinton Foundation dirty money and Hillary’s e-mails are going to be resurrected by the Republicans. If people actually think Bill, Hillary, Chelsea Clinton, Huma Abedin, and former President Obama are safe from Republican retaliation they are wrong.

    Just today Drudge carried a story on Hillary Clinton, while she was Secretary of State, calling Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to demand that Dr. Muhammad Yunus, a Clinton Foundation donor and ally, be reinstated to his position at the head of the Grameen Bank. This was a clear violation of ethics on Clinton’s part, i.e. she used her office for personal matters aimed at enriching the Clinton Foundation. And then there’s Hillary Clinton dirty Russian uranium deal that brought millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation.

    *****
    The FBI has had the Trump-Russia investigation for at least one year and nothing has happened. Even after Obama, in the final weeks in office, approved unprecedented and indiscriminate intelligence sharing in order to allow his operatives to leak sensitive and often misleading data in hopes of fatally harming the Trump campaign, nothing happened. The FBI had a jackpot of intelligence to which it would have otherwise not been entitled had not Obama’s order destroyed decades of well-established US Intelligence protocol for his own political reasons.

    IMO, this was Obama’s knee jerk response when he saw the real internal polling numbers from the Clinton campaign that showed her to be in serious trouble in the key swing states; the Blue Wall was not going to hold. Thus, the strategy was to leak big time in hopes something would take down Trump. Hillary had the popular vote due to CA and NY, but the real data showed her losing the Electoral College. Karl Rove, grand master of electoral politics, knew Trump would win at least a month before the election. Even Obama had to have realized in the last two weeks that Trump would win and that is why, imo, he signed an Executive Order that he knew would unleash a torrent of leaks. For a US President to do this is shocking as it easily allows foreign powers access to this data via their embedded spies and paid agents. Even Bush-Cheney refused to go where Obama went in collapsing necessary intelligence compartmentalization. This Executive Order needs to be rescinded immediately.

    In any event, I think Obama should have fired Comey into 2015 for insubordination after Comey thrust himself into political matters and disagreed with the Obama administration following Ferguson: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/us/politics/james-b-comey-fbi-director-says-focus-on-brutality-brings-less-police-enforcement.html

    • grundoon

      You are quite right: this is WAY off topic.

    • Eileen

      I think you are on the wrong blog. This blog is Scientology.

      • J. Swift

        Eileen, you went past a word you did not understand. I wrote O/T to denote “Off Topic.” Hope this helps. Ever since Trump was elected there is O/T talk on this blog. This O/T talk hasn’t harmed the Bunker at all and has made it even more interesting. Seriously, where else can you go to talk Scientology, Trump, and Xenu? This is a trifecta of epic win.

        BTW, if Trump is Hubbard then does that make Pence… Miscavige?

        • Rasha

          …also shows that the expected due diligence doesn’t always happen as expected. One of those “ummmmm…….” moments we’re all familiar with here…

          • J. Swift

            Part of my post was intended to make people aware of FINCEN. I would not be surprised if FINCEN is looking at Scientology under a microscope.

            • Rasha

              Having some exposure to the financial industry and regulation, I can say, yeah, there are eyes on, no doubt.

            • J. Swift

              There would be FINCEN eyes on SCN, especially if persons unknown had sent FINCEN a passel of dox related to certain questionable SCN activities.

            • Noesis

              A casino being used for money laundering?

              Well I never…

            • J. Swift

              I know how you feel. It’s just like the outlandish idea that a Church could actually be a criminal organization. Honestly, just what is this world coming to?

            • Harpoona Frittata

              That person deserves high praise, perhaps even an honorific status proclamation or such…Doxima Magnifico Swiftcon-a-con Interruptous

        • Eileen

          No MU, but thanks for the condescension and “mansplaining” Do you also believe that there is a pizza parlor in DC that is a cover for pedophiles? What about the Reptilians?

      • JaxNGold

        We talk about all sorts of things here, even though the main conversation is $cientology. No biggy.

    • Noesis

      There are no virtuous players in national politics.

      What is more scary than the political actors is the insertion of the intelligence “community” into the “investigations” of the various political actors. These folks have the technical ability to surveill / blackmail virtually any person on earth – that is not the crowd I want to hear from about domestic political matters – EVER.

      They are NOT and never have been blind servants – they have political motives just like everyone else.

      I do not want to hear from known liars James Clapper, ex-CIA Director (and former Obama campaign advisor / Bush torture program advocate) John Brennan or former Spookmaster in Chief Michael Hayden. These people have no role in domestic politics, but have now become among the loudest voices on the scene. That is what happens in police states – and should not be happening in an electoral democracy.

      There is a gigantic internal war going on right now between various factions in the intelligence “community” and many old scores are being settled via leaks to allies in the press, “sworn” testimony in Congress and general skullduggery of the type one would expect from these folks. Former DIA Director Michael Flynn is but one casualty of that war and he will not be the last. More old scores will be settled.

      What is missing from the context of the complaints about FBI Director Comey “interfering” in the election – by first not filing charges against Hillary for her private e-mail server, then reopening the investigation when yet more classified emails were found on Anthony “look at my weener” Weiner’s laptop – is that Comey was forced into that role because his boss, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, decided that it was a good idea to have a private meeting with Bill Clinton aboard a parked aircraft…just as the “investigation” into Hillary’s private email server was wrapping up. Nothing untoward there, right?

      Lynch had to recuse herself and it was she who said she would “accept” Comey’s recommendation on prosecution – forcing him into the unwanted and highly unusual role of both policeman AND prosecutor…thus saving Lynch from doing her own job and making Comey the scapegoat – no matter what decision was made. (Like I mentioned above, there are no virtuous national political actors.)

      The intelligence “community” are (again) becoming the loudest voices in domestic politics. That has always ending badly and it almost certainly will in this instance too. It is not a time to celebrate, but instead a time to be very, very concerned.

    • flyonthewall

      smh

      Drudge Report? I’d of thought you would have higher standards for your sources of info

    • flyonthewall

      nothing has happened with the FBI’s investigation? At least one grand jury has been convened. Most likely two. When you’re dealing with a conspiracy of this scope and magnitude you need to have all your ducks in a row. Things are moving along. Heads will roll and Trump firing Comey won’t stop it

      • J. Swift

        Then FBI Director Comey told the House Intelligence Committee in March that the FBI had been investigating the Trump-Russia connection since July 2016. Nothing has happened either way in the FBI investigation. The investigation has not been dropped and no charges have been filed. The FBI has been on this for ten months and nothing has happened. That’s just an observation. To your other comment on the Grand Jury, iirc CNN reported that there were actually two grand juries working.

        • flyonthewall

          You can’t say nothing has happened and then acknowledge that two Grand Juries have been called. Those Grand Juries are a result of the FBI’s investigation. They won’t be the end of it either

          • J. Swift

            Fly, no one knows what basis the Eastern Virginia Federal Grand Jury was empaneled on. Maybe FBI evidence, but it could also be information from the NRO intercepts (which seems most likely to me) or even information from FINCEN. What I think and hope will happen is that the Democrats in the Senate will force a special prosecutor. The Dems have 48 seats and only need 3 Republicans to vote with them. Sen. McCain is an enemy of Trump and he would likely vote with the Dems. It would be easy to get two other Senators whose seats are on the line in 2018. According to DC blogs today, arrest warrants will be handed down very soon related to General Flynn and his partners.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Even Obama had to have realized in the last two weeks that Trump would
      win and that is why, imo, he signed an Executive Order that he knew
      would unleash a torrent of leaks.”

      Was that an EO directing staff to preserve all documents or are you referring to something else there?

    • GrangerFX

      Good good. A pox on both their houses. I am going out to buy more popcorn.

    • Missionary Kid

      There is a problem with the Clinton Foundation, but it isn’t the same problem as the Trump foundation. The problem is, to me, unethical to seek donations for a charity while on government business. People love to conflate contributions to the Clinton charity with personal income. It is not. Hillary and Bill claim that they receive no remuneration from the charity. Their daughter has received a salary as a director, IIRC, and stories about it paying for her wedding are false, according to Politifact.com. Many other stories are rated as false or mostly false about the charity if you check with Snopes.com.

      The non-profit Clinton foundation has not been buying property, like Co$, but has actual programs in foreign countries.

      Donald Trump, on the other hand, didn’t register his charity with the sate, which he was supposed to do, and he specifically used to pay fines that were levied against his business interests. IIRC, after paying fines for not registering as a charity and, I believe using it as his own personal piggy bank. For instance, he bought sports memorabilia and a portrait of himself by having the “charity” pay for it. I believe Trump closed it down. His claims that his charity had donated money to various charities were found to be unfounded, or, at best greatly exaggerated.

      Admittedly, the Trump foundation was small potatoes compared with the Clinton Foundation, but his foundation didn’t do shit.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      I like your post but disagree with your final paragraph.

      From what I understand is that Comey spoke up regarding what he saw as a distortion of law enforcement administration or ‘rule of law’. ( I will grant I didn’t not follow the whole Ferguson situation in any depth at all.) Did Comey speak directly with Obama discussing this issue and express his view and felt it necessary to go public to essentially point out that the President doesn’t write the Constitution nor the laws of the land which are written by the legislature. Did he feel that the president was aiding the disrespect for the ‘rule of law’ which are matters formulated by the House and disputed as correct application by the Justice department?

  • HailToTheSheep

    The puka shell necklace, it haunts me.

    • daisy

      I had that same haircut all through the 80*s

    • Observer

      I had a puka shell necklace…

      • WhiteCentauress

        They’re uncomfortably scratchy. I hated mine.

        • Observer

          I don’t remember mine being scratchy

          • WhiteCentauress

            I can’t wear wool or polyester, so I’ve probably got more sensitive skin than most. I can’t stand to even touch wool.

      • HailToTheSheep

        Of course you did! Everyone did!

        I looked it up and they’re still being made, if anyone’s nostalgic. Those darned Etsy-ers.

  • WhiteCentauress

    A controversial face,which I believe has been Photoshopped for this cover. His shoulders were not symmetrical in the image, but gave him two “looks”. His face was fairly direct, so….here’s Tom.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8db0d2257caede2c302f7ae81d8d1a1d8ae444355658c8321bc6aaee2a1ba296.jpg

  • J. Swift
    • iampissed

      Yep saw that coming.

    • J. Swift

      From today’s article in Variety:http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/imaginary-mary-canceled-abc-1202418732/

      “Imaginary Mary” and “The Real O’Neals” have both been canceled at ABC after one and two seasons respecitvely, Variety has learned.

      “Imaginary Mary” starred Jenna Elfman as a woman in her 30s whose childhood imaginary friend — voiced by Rachel Dratch — suddenly reenters her life when she finds herself getting into a serious relationship with a father of three. It also starred Stephen Schneider, Nicholas Coombe, Matreya Scarrwener, and Erica Tremblay.

      The series’ prospects were dim from the start, with ABC trimming its episode order from 13 to 9 before it even premiered. Its ratings also failed to live up to other ABC comedies. Its debut on March 29 after a new episode of “The Goldbergs” drew a 1.4 rating and 5.4 million viewers, well below the 2.0 achieved by fellow freshman series “Speechless” during its fall premiere in the timeslot. The following week, “Imaginary Mary” dropped over 30 percent in both key measures to a 0.9 rating and 3.5 million
      viewers. None of its subsequent episodes fared any better.

      • iampissed

        “Why do you have to make this so strange chica”
        Not to sure if they ever played that episode.

      • WhiteCentauress

        Yeaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Scientology providing ‘imaginary help’ in acting careers.

      • EmmaDaoust

        A touchless assist.

        • daisy

          a * touched assist *

          • Or, she just touched a cyst.

      • J. Swift

        Phil, I have a technical question for you: Jenna Elfman’s string of failed sitcoms continues unabated. She hasn’t had a hit since Dharma and Greg. Does Jenna have missed withholds, hidden crimes, or bypassed charge? Why does Jenna Elfman keep pulling in horrible sitcoms?

        • A starving man would find even the most rotten of fruit to be the sweetest fare.

        • Missionary Kid

          Obviously, I’m not Phil, but my opinion is that she obviously isn’t postulating things right. She needs more work on the bridge to find the witholds that held her back.

          It’s either that or the writing sucked, and the concept was new when Gene Kelly danced with Jerry the mouse, of Tom and Jerry fame, in 1945. The last half-way successful human/cartoon film was The Incredible Mr. Limpet, in 1964, and it was a kids movie with Don Knotts. Now the human/cartoon interaction is not only stale, but dead. Jenna couldn’t help the show if she were Meryl Streep, and she isn’t.

          Jenna will get bit parts and supporting roles, but Dharma and Greg was much more of an ensemble cast with some talented actors and a fair script.

          I will give Jenna some credit for flogging the show on all the talk shows she could get on, and doing a good job of schmoozing and PR. All the $cientologists could watch the show, and I doubt they could raise the ratings.

          Imaginary Mary was good for one thing. It made me very very sleepy, so I fell asleep and never saw more than 5 minutes of it.

    • Kestrel

      How unfortunate. My imaginary friend loved that show.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He he!

      • Sherbet

        He can imagine it’s still on.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Leah Remini gets renewed for a second season of attacking Scientology while a good clean family sitcom about a woman who talks to imaginary aliens gets cancelled. This is obviously part of Big Pharma’s plot.

      • Ruby

        haha!!! perfect comment!

      • John Prince

        I bought me a nice, New bong and a Popcorn machine with my big Pharma check this month 💶

    • Rasha

      *queues up Drop Dead Fred for a nostalgic laugh…*

      • dungeon master

        One of my all time favorites!!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Her BTs (including that gender-neutral stuffie thing she was co-starring with) made her pull it in!

      Obviously, the only cure for Jenna “Pony Girl” Elfman’s straight down and vertical sitcom fail rate is to get her on Oatee 9 & 10 just as soon as thetanically possible.

      • iampissed

        I read that as …..Theatrically Possible.

  • PODCAST: Sister Nayyirah Muhammad “is the First female in the Nation of Islam to reach the level of Clear in the Church of Scientology.”

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hereafterisnow/2017/04/30/dianetically-speaking-wsister-nayyirah-muhammad-repair-of-the-black-family

    • WhiteCentauress

      So what has changed for her. She’s enslaved by two cults now?

      • EmmaDaoust

        No question, she’s enslaved by two cults now.

    • John McMillan

      Now she has total certainty the white man is the devil.

    • Chee Chalker

      Wow…..a NOI ‘Clear’
      Doubley blind

      “Now, we know we have told you your whole life that the white man is the devil……that’s still true…..you need to remove white devil thetans from your body because those are the bad alien souls…..you can still keep the black space alien souls……make sense now? Good. That will be $40,000.”

    • A photograph on the linked Blog Talk Radio site shows Sister Nayyirah Muhammad has also completed Scientology Super Power.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/82b47b6bfc0030a9681dbda4e584a177f596e92f0a9e4283865c2c422a94321b.png

      I’ll also note that Tony Muhammad, Student Western Regional Minister of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of the Islam, has also completed Super Power. There are threads about NOI members practicing Scientology on ESMB and WWP.

  • Observer
    • Sherbet

      So funny!

  • WhiteCentauress

    Made a mean shoop. Felt bad. Took it down. Sorry Chee. I don’t want to become one of the trolls I despise.

    • Chee Chalker

      Don’t…..JT either pulled it in or has Scientology to thank.
      It’s a win-win

  • JJ

    “Hiding bodies-in a double wide trailer- in Tennessee? Tone Scale: – 4.23

  • Rasha

    Okay, Bunks, Rasha’s off to do a quick check back home, then off to pillow. No sense leaving these shots of MouTai…. hell, I’ll take the chicken feet, too. *Yaaaawwnnnnn*. ….night.

    *curls up at end of Bunker sofa*

    • Sherbet

      Anything to tell us about your brother before you leave?

      • Rasha

        Thanks, Sherb. Slow going. Some response to the doctor shouting his name, but mostly noises as if in a nightmare. It’s gonna be a long process, but we’ll see in the next few days what the neuro team says….. I should drive back there….

        • iampissed

          Your absence will be felt….Your reason not to be here will be understood.

          • Rasha

            (Hug)

            • iampissed

              Back at ya.

        • Sherbet

          Thank you for the update. We’re all with you.

          • Rasha

            Very thanks to all mah Bunks.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          So. so sorry Rasha. Prayers for him and you and your family.

          • Rasha

            Thank you!

    • iampissed

      Night

    • iampissed

      You have increased my knowledge today “MouTai”. Thank You.

      • Rasha

        And MouTai can undo all that… ^_^

        • iampissed

          Waiting is…now get out of here!

          • Rasha

            Zzzzzzzzzzzzz……..

    • chukicita

      Sweet dreams.

  • downtherabbithole

    If I see one more promotion from this damn group exploiting victims while creating even more, I am going to snap

    • RED_Peril87

      Yeah, just reading about this stuff makes me feel like my BP is rising…

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Someone should write a tell all on this sleazy front group.

      • WhiteCentauress

        New, six comments, closed thread. Deleted mean comment.

        • RED_Peril87

          If it was mine, it was supposed to be a joke. Clearly at least several people have written excellent books on this group. I know sarcasm doesn’t always translate well to this milieu.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I’ve never thought about it before in a positive light, however, there might be some advantages to how cheap life is worth in Latin America. Just sayin..

    • ha ha… watch out how you are wording that. Life is not cheap anywhere.

  • Gib

    Chris Shelton, great synopsis of Hubbard’s The Modern Science of Mental Health and proceeding forward to scientology, the science of certainty, LOL. In the end he even told Sarge he failed and wasn’t coming back.

    There is one clip from Hubbard’s lecture’s you missed in your video, here it is:

    “My own philosophy , my own method of existing is far, far different, perhaps in many cases, than the data itself, because I’ve selected out, after all, certain randomities.

    There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe. I’ve decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them all on the head, and you’ve got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there is no radomity there. No randomity at all. They’re never going to hurt a preclear really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy- you can pick them up in the next life and they’ll be as good as new”

    This clip is from the “Source of Life Energy” lectures part of the basics dated 10 Nov 1952.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Oh, that was in his early “jacked up on goofballs, let’s feed the kid Benzedrine and listen to him babble” period, wasn’t it?

  • Baby

    I popped in and now popping out.. This is one subject too close to home for me. We all have one.. This is mine.

    See you tomorrow ..love baby https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d63d884c45b69c31e759625846037651158c750e36d9fa34f2dfacaac674e7d4.gif

    • Missionary Kid

      Sleep tight. Sweet dreams.

  • dreamcatcher

    There John, fixed it for ya….

    (ok, disqus doesn’t let me replace the pic – see reply)….

  • jurgen

    I would like to add my own observations on the treatment of so called “Type 3” people. Having been an Ethics Officer in a Church of Scientology many decades ago, I have first-hand experiences (as such “cases” are being sent to the Ethics Officer for “handling”).

    First of all, Scientology’s definition of “Type 3” is actually extremely broad — it includes a temporary nervous breakdown to full flown schizophrenia or even worse. Just that point alone seems to be a far too broad a field to pull these people into “one category”. I cannot imagine that a medical nor psychiatric professional would agree to such a ‘definition’.

    Secondly, the described “treatment” of people suffering under such conditions, per my own observation, only seems to work when it is “just” a momentary mental breakdown. Personally I have overseen the “treatment” of several cases and have seen success and failure. I have observed really great success with Hubbard’s methods when it was applied to cases of a momentary mental breakdown — and I must say, still today, I am glad no psych-drugs had to be applied — the people just simply snapped out of their condition and were their usual selves without further relapse, as far as I know.

    This however was not the hoped results with two cases I had to deal with (or observed closely) who had severe mental disturbances and/or prior psychiatric treatment. In those two cases Hubbard’s treatment did not work at all.

    To be clear about my statement: though I am not a Scientologist any longer (and have not been one for may years now), the very simplistic “treatment” (of providing a very quiet environment, vitamins, good nutrition, only dealing with good news) has, per my own observations, “snapped out” several people of their very depressive mood / condition and gave them a way to gain their way back without having to take sometimes dangerous medication.

    Yet, in more severe cases, Hubbard’s “treatment” (as I have observed 2 times) has not worked at all.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Vallieres is such a model probationer. He gets arrested for felony facilitation of kidnapping, and is put on unsupervised probation for two years. Within two months of pleading guilty, he is advertising for staff (it’s so frustrating when your staff gets arrested), and stating he is moving his operations to Mexico. Unless Tennesee has the most liberal probation rules in the country, Vallieres should be warned that he is not allowed to leave the country. If he still makes plans to move to Mexico, the state should revoke Vallieres probation and send him to prison. Of course, the state could nothing, in which case it should study California’s mishandling of parole in the kidnapping of Jaycee Dugard.