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Tonight on ‘Leah Remini’: Once again, Scientology’s a horror show for the mentally ill

 
Tonight, A&E airs the “season finale” of Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, the eighth episode (including a “Reddit AMA” special) but actually not the final installment of what has turned out to be an extraordinary hit for the cable network.

A week from tonight another Reddit special will air, and like the last time Leah will have some special guests with her. We know who they are, but we figure they’ll be teased at the end of tonight’s show, so we’ll just hang on until then.

As for tonight’s excitement, the episode opens with Leah reading from a letter sent by Scientology’s Karin Pouw on September 9 that blames her, among other things, for inciting a “hate crime” committed by a young man named Brandon Reisdorf.

(That’s the same letter we made public on November 22, and that Leah reacted to by hiring an attorney and making a demand of $1.5 million for defaming her. The church ignored her demand, which she made as a shot across the bow of the litigious organization.)

Leah and Mike are in Los Angeles to meet with Brandon’s parents, Lois and Gary Reisdorf.

If you’ve been reading Lois’s interesting series about her days in the Sea Org at Mike Rinder’s website, you know that she has been out of Scientology a long time, but kept herself away from the church’s controversies and wasn’t really aware of the major defections by top former executives and other things that have been happening in recent years. She and Gary had tried to keep “low profile,” in order to stay connected to Lois’s South African Scientology family. But that low profile approach made the family vulnerable: Two of their three sons, Brandon and Craig, got sucked into Scientology and joined staff at the San Diego org.

Brandon, the family reveals, had mental health issues. He had an undiagnosed bipolar condition, and the family handled it by putting him through Scientology’s Introspection Rundown. Yes, the notorious crackpot procedure that L. Ron Hubbard came up with in the 1970s, and which has produced numerous disasters since then, including the death of Lisa McPherson in 1995, and a more recent case of the shocking mistreatment of a woman in Arkansas.

“Brandon came back worse than when he went in,” Gary tells Leah.

Meanwhile, Lois and Gary were connected to some of Gary’s family, who were declared. And they were turned in by their own son Craig, which resulted in Lois and Gary getting declared. That forced a big decision on their sons Craig and Brandon.

Brandon decided to stay with his family, but Craig chose the church. Craig followed policy and cut off all contact with the rest of his family.

Brandon took it hard — and his undiagnosed bipolar condition got worse.

In a manic episode, Brandon drove to Los Angeles and threw a hammer through a window at the Los Angeles Org. He drove away in his mother’s car, but he was soon stopped by police.

As Gary Reisdorf points out, if this were a legitimate religious organization, it would probably be happy just to be made whole with enough money to cover the damages, and would probably try to find a way to help the troubled young man who had thrown a hammer through their window.

But this is Scientology. Instead of trying to help Brandon (after it was Scientology that had misdiagnosed him, Leah points out) the church pressed for felony charges against Brandon instead. (Meanwhile, Brandon finally got the mental health care he needed.)

Oh, and it gets worse, of course. Scientology pressed charges under hate crime legislation that makes it a felony to throw a hammer through the window of “a place of worship.” We doubt anyone was around to ask prosecutors who they thought was being “worshipped” at the Scientology Los Angeles org.

In his interview with Leah and Mike, Brandon talks about how hard it was for him to get through his jail stay and then find his way as a person with a felony on his record. Brandon’s interview is a strong capper to this segment.

The episode then shifts to some fine footage of John Sweeney and Mark Bunker talking about how filming Scientology comes with risks and some odd rewards, too. And speaking of odd, the show also has on a reporter we think you’ll recognize.

 

 
Once again, we look forward to joining you tonight as we live-blog the show in the comments section. Let’s have fun!

 
UPDATE: In response to this story, Lois Reisdorf sent over this interesting account…

There have been a number of comments questioning, in a kind way, why did we send Brandon back to Scientology rather than to psychiatric professionals. That is a very good question and one that both Gary and I struggle with. I think there were a number of contributing factors.

— We were both indoctrinated into Scientology beliefs since birth about how great Scientology was and at the same time how horrible psychiatry was. Yes, we quit actively participating in Scientology 35 years ago. Although we knew this spiritual “mecca” would never be obtained thru Scientology, we did feel that the lower levels had some basis of spiritual betterment. With neither one of us ever suffering from mental issues and didn’t even have any friends with issues, psychiatry or even the medications used were never a part of our lives.

— Lois’ father was a highly trained Scientologist and practiced it until he passed away in 2007. Gary’s father was also highly trained and also kept auditing until he passed in 1992. We had great respect for our parents and their choices even though Scientology was not for us. In hindsight, it should have been questioned, not given respect.

— Even though we did not participate in Scientology, it was more of “there are some good things, but something is wrong with the upper levels”.

— Neither Gary nor I were tech trained and just considered the Introspection R/D was a simple, good, lower level where the person was given healthy food, vitamins, and had a chance to remove themselves from the tensions of everyday life. We should have researched it but just accepted that it wasn’t harmful. We did not actually know that he would be put on this rundown, it was in the hands of the case supervisor. But at the time we would not have questioned it and to be honest, at the time we did not know what was involved in that rundown, neither of us were tech trained and had never experienced someone in it before.

— We were completely unaware of any of the evils of Scientology, only of David Miscavige kicking us out and taking over. We had never heard of Ortega, didn’t know Mike or Marty had a blog. Never heard of Lisa McPherson or the other atrocities of the church. It was the last thing on our minds. There wasn’t an Internet when we left in 1982 and we just tried to keep it out of our lives. Only when we were under the threat of losing our children unless we got with their program, did we start to research, online and in books, what went on in Scientology for the past 35 years.

— If we were to have gone to psychiatry as the solution for Brandon originally, we would have been declared then and there and lost Craig back then. Again, in hindsight that would have been an excellent outcome.

But to address the big elephant in the room, I don’t think we can adequately put a finger on why? We made mistakes but as someone commented, love of our children was our total motivation. Would we do things differently with the knowledge we have now? A hundred percent, yes.

The good thing is that we have Brandon, Brett and Jessie in our lives and Brandon is doing great now. Brett and Jessie are in the process of adopting a child who we love dearly. We are doing our utmost to get our lost son Craig back in our lives.

 
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Go here to start making your plans.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 10, 2017 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
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  • PickAnotherID

    What’s with Disqus? Every time I hit the “Show x New Comments” bar the time order of comments gets scrambled. More comments coming in than Disqus can handle??

    • stillgrace2

      When we started the live blog, there were already 1300 comments on this post. Disqus simply cannot handle the quantity and timing of our comments. We should suggest to our proprietor that we try getting a fresh blog post for serious live blogging.

      • BobbyTolberto aka TDA

        Did we break Disqus again? Just think of it as an impromptu beta test session.

  • amarie

    Such a great epi. I find I can’t keep up with the twitter while watching, but I’ve come across some great follows there, too.
    That said, I can’t keep up with the comments here, either lol. Y’all are in top form tonight!

  • TexasBroad

    Mike’s Aftermath aftermath…
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Watching the rerun of the episode with Tom DeVocht. Wow was that powerful. You really see in all of these episodes what caring, intelligent people these ex’s are. And you see the flip side too–what monsters people become when they are in (a direct result of the teachings, although that isn’t being emphasized in this series.)

  • outraged

    Is this a Gold Record for comments??

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Stacy Francis, I’m guessing. Man, Leah is owning everything and then some. Slow down, woman. You don’t have to assume every burden. (F5)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/891f7722e60cb8e378bc7e4b80e5536ae3c0d47c92cab6a6693a99afff2a2b3c.png

    • Newiga

      Leah is a class act. <3

  • The Billboard is moveing steadly forward ($6,397 of $9,950 goal)
    https://www.gofundme.com/stopscientologydisconnection

  • JJ

    Don’t think Scientology is worshiping a who, it is a what. Money, and a concept of global curing. You know curing people of having too much money of there own, freewill, time to spend doing worthwhile pursuits, family connections, rational thought…

  • PerpetualOutflow

    What if $cientology came to its senses and realized that its policy of disconnection, more than any of its other cruel and morally bankrupt practices, is killing it and decided to cancel disconnection? Would very many of its members still in today be likely to object to that? Couldn’t Mscavige just make up some reason for doing so and become the big hero and save its demise…or at least put it off for awhile?

    • TexasBroad

      That would be a beautiful thing, but how many people would just walk out the door if it didn’t mean losing their family. It’s always been a weapon wielded for control.

      • JJ

        Texas has it, Control. With out it there is nothing. this is a dictatorship masquerading as religion. You do not admit defeat, being wrong, doubts, failings, fears or tender feeling, You assume power, authority, control and everything comes from that. Used to be people gave it up to God as being the power behind the throne, Scientology decided it would do away with the mythical other being and claim godheadship for itself and individuals in good standing (paying members). Somehow that is way more complicated. A vague greater being is an easier sell than a “super man” concept, especially when you meet them day to day and see just what the less than above it all practices they engage in are and to what purpose.$$$

    • sizzle8

      I can think of at least one policy that gives “wiggle room” and authority to change an LRH policy like disconnection.

      Also, technically, the Board of Directors has the power to accept or reject writings that were submitted by the Founder/Consultant. While Hubbard was alive, the board members wouldn’t have dreamed to reject something, but on paper, they had the authority.

    • JJ

      I wonder about things like that too, but I am thinking were talking deep character defects here, Like a basketball game where a team is down by 30 points and they make three or four good shots…Why can’t they just do that the whole time…? If they could they wouldn’t be losing so badly. He may really not see anything wrong with the choices he makes and the dictates he gives for guiding his church. But if that was true, one wonders why the need to hide so much from parishioners and defend so vigorously it’s practices and beliefs in the media. Some where between the Ted Koppel interview and the day after the Ted Koppel interview David Miscavige came to the conclusion that selling Scientology to the uninitiated, and laying it out for all to see was NOT a good idea. They never did it again.

      • moonnfire

        In that interview Dm came off as such a slimy car salesman type. I felt like I was watching an infomercial or something

    • that’s not how a high control organisation works. You must be confusing it with a group that has some positive aspect, or something. Like a church 😉

      Here’s Tommy David discussing how the threat of disconnection is what keeps victims under the control of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology.

      http://www.villagevoice.com/news/tommy-davis-scientology-spokesman-secretly-recorded-discussing-disconnection-6694765

      (Anyway, the lack of world domination of “milestone 2,” “the free zone” and other spinoffs from the Co$ should tell you all you need to know about the ability of anyone to follow some of) the writings of L Ron Hubbard and prosper…)

  • TexasBroad

    I wonder how many twitter followers Tony had prior to this series? He has 10.4k now.

    • Vault Digger

      I know that in 7 days he has picked up over 1500, Leah Remini has picked up about 20,000 in the same time. The main Scientology account has picked up around 400, many of which look like fake accounts.

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Sorry, just one more, folks. This one was too choice to pass up. (F5)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/092039238b0a9ecec3350b60c1b3dae875767deb224e9a915bf61d19522a8147.png

    • TexasBroad

      She is so funny! Great answer!

  • JJ

    This church treats former members the way some fundamentalist churches treat Satan, as all encompassing sinister ever taunting evil force trying to sway the innocent true believers from The One True Path…

  • FredEX2

    • JJ

      Even without Karma greed and stupidity will do em in in the end. It always does. That and sooner or later people get tired of it and stand up to the bullies. Sooner is preferable of course.

  • Narapoid

    Tony has said before that one of the biggest hurtles to getting a Scientology story told is the gargantuan and incredible backstory.

    People are now HUNGRY for the backstory!

    What a frickin’ PR tornado this show is. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c29011256538b37fba88715ec718a1368ce9bd2ff4510ee05eeec646cdf347be.jpg

    • JJ

      That is their theory, so it must be true.

    • JJ

      Absolute power, corrupts absolutely…Then again, he brought a lot of the shit with him…

  • Willie Jones

    Lois, I have high hopes that you will get your son back. You did what you thought what was right at the time, something we all did as scientologists. Thank you for telling your story.
    You and your family are very brave but I want you to know you have so many people behind you to help end disconnection. Soon Lois, soon! Respect for going public in a big way.

    • TexasBroad

      (((Hugs)))) Willie. High hopes for all the sons and daughters…

      • Willie Jones

        Yes, for all our family who need us now.

  • Jenny Gee

    It’s crazy that a reporter finds dealing with Scientology scarier than North Korea!!!

    • JJ

      Which is more dangerous, being a reporter living In North Korea or being a reporter and living Beside Scientology…? What a whack concept eh? That tells you something.

  • pat k

    Love to Lois

  • Dave In Ajax

    did I hear right on the latest episode that tony was married???? or did I misinterpret something??????

  • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

    Thank you, Miss Remini and Mr. Rinder, for your valuable service. Your Aftermath series brought together very eloquent and earnest former members who were able to cogently relate in chilling detail their first-hand accounts of life in the cult. Your time and effort on this project shines a bright light on the atrocious practices of this dangerous cult. I guarantee that mankind has benefited more from your work in this regard than you were able to contribute to the betterment of humanity in all of your years of service to the cult combined. The diminutive poobah really is just like the oz wizard behind the curtain, a-making it up as he goes along.

  • PalaceAthena

    In light of tonight’s show and the specific topic it covered, I just want to take a moment to thank Tom Cruise for his insulting and obnoxious interview with Matt Lauer all those years ago, for the way he bashed his so-called friend Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants to treat her postpartum depression, for revealing to a massive audience Scientology’s views regarding mental health treatment and for showing the world what an arrogant prick he really he is. It was you, Tom, who sent me down the rabbit hole. It was you, Tom, who led me to Tony’s work at the Village Voice and later here at the Bunker. It was you, Tom, that had me seeking out critical videos, articles and books. So tonight, I raise my glass to Top Gun. Who knew the “world’s biggest movie star” could single-handedly bring Scientology it’s worst PR (at the time). You, Tom, truly have “All the Right Moves.”
    https://youtu.be/tFgF1JPNR5E?t=8m11s

    • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

      You’re being glib, Athena.

    • Kid Kat

      Hear hear! If you haven’t read Steve Cannane’s “Fair Game”, it’s a must read. Tom Cruise knows of the crimes in co$ and has participated in them.

    • Nat-leficent

      Um, awesome name and avatar combo.

      • PalaceAthena

        Why thank you. Always dug your name as well.
        I wonder if the Daria writers were thinking of Scientology when they created this:
        https://youtu.be/BTHEzitR8Ks

    • Aslan’s Own

      That’s what sent me down the rabbit hole too.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Yes, it was infuriating…..I was screaming at the TV screen. Plus, interestingly Cruise looks sort of deranged himself.

        • Aslan’s Own

          I was too! I was yelling “You wouldn’t say that if you had a family member with schizophrenia!” But now I know he probably would. He would put them on the Introspection Rundown….let him see how well that works. As I learned more I realized he probably would just off load them from his life. They’re not “able.”

          • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

            Like he did his own mother. The diminutive poobah wears him like a commodore’s uniform which leaves little room for extemporaneous interactions. The daily pissing contests are epic.

    • Jerseygram

      That’s what sent me down, too!

  • Kid Kat

    I often wonder what has become of Dan, one of Mark Bunker’s handlers.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeAP1hhYR7g

    • Cornelius Orowitz Bigot

      That’s a really sad story. Dan Murnan died of cancer and drank the coolaid all the way. Tony wrote about it here on the bunker.

    • Fink Jonas

      wow that is disturbing, now I understand why they call them a “clam”

  • John Prince

    Anyone ever hear what’s up with “Candice” ,that Girl who escaped her baby-watch and was “recaptured” by the most ethical people on the Planet?

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Geneva Convention rules against torture.
    Introspection rundown = torture, period, by any definition, Geneva or otherwise. Food for thought.

    Article 1

    For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.

    • Jimmy3

      So it’s bad right?

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Yes, my little clovered one….it is very bad.

      • Nat-leficent

        Well, unless you ASK your Mistress to do it AND you have a safe word XD

        • Jimmy3

          No marks

          • Stephanie Loving

            that’s two words

          • Nat-leficent

            You’re married?!

            • Jimmy3

              Not if there’s marks

            • Nat-leficent

              XD

    • breezybubbles

      does the geneva convention have clauses about religious persecution? Maybe we’ve been using the wrong body of government to combat the horrific human rights’ abuses

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Hey guys….where’s Baby? I haven’t seen her post in a long time. Is she OK?

    • Nat-leficent

      Good question. I just emailed her that you asked after her and I’ll let you know if/when she gets back to me.

    • Jimmy3

      We traded her to Mike Rinder’s blog. Got back three sock prospects and a straight up vertical J&D ace with a wicked screwball. Which is some sort of drink they had mixed in a can of monster energy. Once it clears waivers, they’ll cut her to dump salary and we’ll re-sign her in the spring.

      • Nat-leficent

        Lies. We’d never sell the baby. You promised!

        • EDN/laineybin

          I thought we said we’d never put Baby in a corner!

          Baby – Hope all is well and sending thoughts and wishes your way.

          • Baby

            aww xoxo thanks Lainey

        • Baby

          Phew! thanks Nat

      • Juicer77

        XD

        • Baby

          xo

          • Juicer77

            Squeezy hugs to you, hon.

            • Baby

              squeezy hug back Juicie

      • Baby

        They traded me to Rathbun.. he treated me like a hot potato and threw me back here! Lucky ducks..xo

        • Jimmy3

          I was only teasing, of course. You’re the Baby Ruth of the Bunker, Baby. You can’t be traded without damning all of us.

          • Baby

            I know sweetheart.. I laughed the loudest I’m sure. Just woke up. Crazy hours.

    • Stephanie Loving

      We spoke a week or so ago? And she sounded in fine spirits. Now I’m worried! I’ll feel better when I see her post or when Nat-leficent says she’s a-ok

      • Baby

        xo smooches

        • Stephanie Loving

          mwah!

    • daisy

      The last time I saw her was the day of Aaron*s interview. She was unable to watch because of the personal tragedy that she also suffered .

      • Nat-leficent

        Baby had a twin who died as well 🙁

      • Stephanie Loving

        thank you Daisy. any word is good ;o)

        • Baby

          xoxoxox

      • Ella Raitch

        The day of that interview she responded to a few who spoke up about being concerned for her and thanked us for our wishes. Said she was dealing with her upset.

        • Baby

          xooo

          • Ella Raitch

            Hi beautiful xx

            • Baby

              awww.. Hi honey.. xo

      • Baby

        xoo

        • daisy

          Hi darling , hope you are keeping well.

          • Baby

            Define Well Daisy.. haha .ugh

            • daisy

              Well reading between the lines , I guess I just hope you are not in pain. I am so sorry you are not feeling good. I miss your presence. (((hugs )))

        • daisy

          Jan 15 , I hope you are getting better Doll . I will continue my prayers for you. Do not push yourself , but try to get out if you can. Come back when you can, We love YOU.

          • Ann B Watson

            Thank you daisy.I send light and prayers for Baby too.A lovely,strong,spirit.🙏🏻❤️

          • Baby

            Love you too babe. I am going to ease out.. I don’t have the energy I was born with..sigh

        • daisy

          Baby , I thought I wrote a sort note earlier, but I have n*t been sleeping , so I cannot remember for sure. Just wanted to send you love hugs and prayers. I adore you darling and miss you. Please keep well until you can visit us again xoxoxo

          • Baby

            Thanks sweetheart ( I’ve answered all of your posts..) hmmm sorry you’re not sleeping.. I am sleeping for the 2 of us honey..xo

    • Nat-leficent

      I usually post something really cute to get her attention and yell “HIYA BABY!” That usually works. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbb71be6777b5ffcb0324d3eeaab0e6efa23e4939a8b1fba30b8bfe278b8d0c0.gif

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Cute !!!!! I hope she responds as I know she was under the weather for awhile.

        • Baby

          xo

      • ReallyMGM

        Oh, this brings back so many memories. y first “litter” was a singleton puppy whose mom at 3 days developed mastitis. I had to bottle-feed her from then on. As soon as her eyes opened and she was on her feed, she was stimulated with interactive toys like this. she chased a fake chick everywhere;. She also had a racing helicopter, radio controlled cars, and her personal favorite….something called a bumbleball. it looked like a soccer ball with some of the nubs sticking up. it play awful 80s music and it vibrated, causing the ball to jump all over the floor. She would jump on it and growl and snarl for hours at the thing; We, of course laughed our assm, at her, She lived to be 16 years old and loved that thing forever. I still have it, but no puppy has ever liked it like Mia.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16ae2e846f820b50f9373ae8c87787516027d96dca3413f2d2ba3538b1cb02e2.jpg

        • Baby

          Kitteh.. wow..was she a show dog? Darling.. xo

          • ReallyMGM

            Yes, Mia grew up to be my first homebred champion. Her mom was my first champion and got mastitis when Mia was 3 days old so I had to bottle feed her for WEEKS. It was amazing how understanding my professors and head of the department were. She was the darling of the department (thank god there was no carpet!) They loved that puppy! The ad department had a microwave to heat her bottles and I kept her next to my desk in a paper ream box with a heating pad (she was still very tinyl). One day I had to go to computer services for something, and just zipped her up in my coat (it was cold). Of course, halfway through our discussion her head popped up at the top of the neck! He was an Arab student, but fond of dogs…he laughed his ass off.
            I didn’t let her overstay her welcome though and at about 3.5 weeks she could stay at home due to my hours. However, she was the only dog ever allowed in the department and was allowed to come back for visits! She was named by the other students after Mia Wallace in Pulp Fiction! Those are just some of the stories I could tell about Mia as a baby, but as she grew up she was such a spoiled brat. She was furious 2 years later when her two brothers came along!
            Hope you are feeling better. Hope this dog story makes you laugh and feel a bit better. I loved reminiscing about Mia.

            ETA: That is just hair clipped in a show pattern. Later in life she was cut short all over for comfort.(although that is comfortable too) She was all dog. She was an incredible retriever on land and water.

            • Baby

              What a fabulous story.. I know you miss her honey. I had a toy poodle in my youth.. but she is absolutely precious.

              You really took over her motherhood duties.. Bravo!

            • ReallyMGM

              Her full brother, another litter, was incredible. He was my “heart dog.” 7 generations, very proud of them, their owner and accomplishments.

            • Baby

              awww… sweet kitteh.. I love dogs as you know.. and I love those who love them too! xox

      • Baby

        Awww cute..

    • Nat-leficent

      Hi Kay, Baby says thanks for thinking of her. She’s hanging in while going through some medical tests and will check in soon 🙂

      • Newiga

        Send her my love as well. Weegie says Hi and sends a truck load of virtual hugs. xxoo

        • Baby

          xo

          • Newiga

            Hey! You’re back! xxoo

  • Qbird

    So Disqus righted itself, eh?! That’s nice.

    • Paul V. Tupointeau

      ¡¡ooʇ ‘ǝɯıʇ ʇnoqɐ

  • EmmaDaoust

    Gaaahhh.
    U of T’s ‘anti-psychiatry’ scholarship is affront to science and could hurt mentally ill patients, critics say http://news.nationalpost.com/health/u-of-ts-anti-psychiatry-scholarship#__lsa=888b-87cf via @nationalpost

    • EmmaDaoust

      “Indeed, the scholarship has won support from an organization founded by the Church of Scientology, zealous foes of psychiatry.”

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    It seemed like they took two Aftermath episodes and mashed them into one episode. They should have had one whole episode on Lois’s family and the CO$ treatment of mental illness. And the second half could have easily gone for an hour too. Just too much interesting stuff crammed into one episode.

  • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

    You know I don’t think there were any former Scientologists we saw on Aftermath who were college-educated. But everybody appearing on Aftermath seemed to possess above-average intelligence. I imagine had they been afforded the opportunity to receive such an education, they could likely have been quite successful. However, not all Scientologists come across as having that much snap and you can understand how they might fall for smoke being blown up their rear ends. (T. Cruise, J. Travolta, and K. Alley, come to mind, just to name a few.)

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I don’t think that Travolta is much smarter than his old Vinnie Barbarino character. I really don’t.

      • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

        He seems really sweet though, which makes him much more tolerable than the other two who seem insufferable and self-possessed.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          IDK, he sexually assaults people. Just because his victims are men instead of women, it doesn’t make it any less vile. He is no better than Bill Cosby to me.

          • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

            If they didn’t try to audit the gay away, maybe things could have played out with a little decorum (or between consenting adults). At least his intended targets are able to get up and leave. His mating ritual is kinda creepy, but I blame COS policy which labels it a weakness and perversion, for his stunted sexual development. But what do I know about it? I’ve been approached by masturbaters in public before and just laaaaaughed out loud, reared back and guffawed and they got out of there in a quick hurry. That seems like such a chickensh!t way to approach somebody to me.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Didn’t Spanky/Going Clear confirm that the CO$ used its resources ($$$, lawywers, private detectives) to make his “problems” go away? If Cosby had been a clam his victims would have been silenced by the CO$ too. Everything in LRH’s tech relating to sex is perverse. And who knows if Jett really got the correct (non-CO$) medical treatment. Travolta creeps me out in many ways. I’m not a fan.

    • since the trap is set using hidden appeals to emotions, intelligence has little to do with whether or not a victim gets caught.

      A cult is interested in targeting the high achievers (who wants to snare in a bunch of losers?!?) – training, education or otherwise.

      Check out “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steven Hassan.

      • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

        Diabolical.

  • April Moonlight

    If this was talked about, i must have missed it, but I’m seeing ads at this site now. is this something new?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Yeah, it was discussed in earlier comments.

      • April Moonlight

        how can i find them? there are a lot of comments!

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Sort by oldest comments. I didn’t read all of the earlier comments but I think someone later said that due to increased traffic, Google was going to put up ads again which was removed previously due to a (CO$?) complaint about adult content here. Comments earlier today were being censored for profanity so Google wouldn’t have a problem again. Then just before Aftermath started, Tony commented that the profanity ban had been lifted. IIRC.

          • Fink Jonas

            Thanks for explaining, wow , good news to see ads again, that means we are back in the game, love it.

  • Ella Raitch

    Awesome blogging people. Missed the live event but got a great idea of what the show was like. EE ALT-TABing like a boss again!

    • Juicer77

      Disqus had a bad case of vertigo – comments all over the place. It probably makes a lot more sense now!

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        It does–and the best thing is, even though I didn’t see the show, thanks to everyone’s diligent labour–I have a fair impression of what it was actually like! (and the bit where everyone was testing the limits of the swear filter was hilarious–I haven’t laughed almost continuously like that for quite some time… I think Tony should turn it on from time to time to keep us on our toes! 🙂 )

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  • bbock

    I was EXCITED and sad at the same time when I saw the final words “To be continued…” I was sad because it mean that was the last one of the season, but excited because if they put those words, that means they intend for it to continue. So many more stories to tell. You aren’t done yet! Give them hell, Leah and Mike!

    • Sine qua non

      8 weeks is not enough! 8 weeks is not a season!!!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    True to pathetic form, the CO$ has updated their Aftermath: After Money hate website with slam videos by Craig Reisdorf and two of Lois’s sisters. Shouldn’t a church spending money on vile websites to slander ex-parishoners jeopardize their tax-exemption? Sheesh.

    • Juicer77

      More to report to the IRS. Pitiful.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Among the idiocy, Craig says that his folks would want him to be “smoking pot, flying down a mountainside snowboarding and breaking his elbow”? WTF

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Also this sure doesn’t make LRH and the church look good. It collaborates what the exes have said about the CO$ claiming parishioners have “crimes” and sentencing them to do forced labor. Thanks for confirming that LRH was indeed a lunatic!
          (refresh)

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/00d2598f115552d9ee8f8e3fd5cfdb4d23847c7018652c493b3bb8301b6709cf.png

          • Juicer77

            You can’t make this stuff up.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Stripped of all rank!!!! In the fake navy of a two-bit delusional idiot running around in a skipper’s hat! Oh, how would anyone ever recover from that? SMH

          • madame duran

            Lois and Gary Reisdorf are accused of being horrible, “destructive” criminals–virtual threats to humanity in the eyes of the cult–who were expelled from the Sea Org and their ultimate punishment is…….heavy cleaning duty?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              I’ve always figured that the worst job on the Apollo were those poor girls who had to put on LRH’s socks. We’ve seen those disgusting teeth, so can you imagine what kind of gnarly feet he had? GAG!

        • madame duran

          Breaking one’s spirit and mind is soooooooooooo much better!

          NOT!!!

    • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

      They really do let anybody in; don’t they? Some pretty disreputable despicable characters are able to regularly serve the church in high-level positions. How do these charlatans manage to go undetected until they’re gone? Doesn’t Scientology teach folks to overcome such behavior? Is their picker broken? It really is the fox guarding the henhouse over there.

      • Juicer77

        Hmmm……

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        IKR! They’d be better off body routing lepers and prostitutes.

        • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

          If they had anything of any import to truly offer humanity, they would welcome them. But those type folks ain’t got no money so you won’t be seeing the poor, tired or huddled masses being ministered to there.

      • ExCult.Jan

        I’m totally with you on David Miscavaige being a charlatan! Except charlatans don’t “decide” to leave. Those taken in by charlatans, eventually realize and GTFO, expecially those who have been sucked into high-level positions because of their loyalty and skills, like Mike Rinder. They really get to see the charlatans up close and personal, which ain’t pretty, and they all eventually do decide to leave. Except the actual charlatans. I know. Been there, done that.

        • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

          Nooooo. I mean according to their own letters, EVERYBODY that used to be respected and now that they’re no longer in the cult is crook-kid crook-kid crook-kid. Not once do ya get a nice letter of reference on the way out the door. Sorry if my poor effort at facetitiousness was not too clear.

          • ExCult.Jan

            Need more coffee. Thanks!

        • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

          Alls I know is if the diminutive poobah pulled that flying body slam crap on me … Well I’d love it. He’d wind up in the fkn hospital and even in jail, I’d be a-sportin the biggest chit-eatin grin. Whenever I see his image, I feel the same repulsion as when I see our new Fuhrer.

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  • Andrea

    So when is the FBI going to do a formal investigation into this evilness ? Whoever is the fool that gave them tax exemption and made them a church in 1993 needs investigated!!!!

    • Bobbysue Fontaine de la Tour

      Alas, I think the FBI probably is going to be otherwise occupied for the immediate weeks and months to come. But as Mr. Rinder so astutely paralleled the Civil Rights movement and this righteous cause … it wasn’t just one march, or two …

    • Sine qua non

      Write a letter asking that to the FBI or Department of Justice, CCing your federal elected officials-that’s my suggestion.

  • Sine qua non

    To Lois & Gary Reisdorf: please don’t beat yourselves up about not sending your son to legitimate psychiatric treatment right away. You made a reasonable decision based on the information and circumstances you had at the time. Bipolar illness is a very difficult thing to treat for many sufferers, even those who get legitimate treatment. The important thing is that you are dedicated to nurturing, loving and preserving your sons and family. I’m just glad that things are better now. Keep up the good work; keep inspiring all of us!

  • Aimee

    The hate crime angle is horrifying. Is California a stupid state, or what is wrong with prosecutors there, that they don’t see what is going on here? How can a mentally ill person be charged with a hate crime committed during a manic episode?

    This series interested me because as a teenager, I purchased “Dianetics” in the 80s because it looked interesting. I read the first chapter and thought, this is crazy BS! My dad saw it in the house and said, “Why did you buy that, it’s from a cult!” That’s the extent of my foray into Scientology but I regret supporting it even with that one purchase from Waldenbooks.

    • califa007

      Yes, California is a stupid State, to put it mildly. However, we passed a Proposition (Prop 57?) in Nov. which takes away additional sentencing penalties for special circumstances, such as hate crime, being a gang member, and others that I don’t know or can’t remember. So the sentencing guidelines for throwing a hammer trough a window cannot be increased based on motivation. Don’t know if this affects Brandon’s case but hope it helps.

      • Aimee

        I just couldn’t believe a prosecutor wouldn’t have some discretion in a case like this. The poor kid had been brainwashed, threatened with the loss of his family, forced into isolation, denied medical care and then prosecuted when he snapped? It’s just unbelievable to me that this happened in the U.S. I would have thought that the “compassionate liberals” in CA would have done the right thing here (sarc).