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AUDIO: Hear Scientology boast about the $5.7 million it got from Google in free ads

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In September 2014, we published a story that we expected would get more attention. We reported that at a gala celebration in the San Fernando Valley, a gathering of about 500 Scientologists who had paid $100 each to attend were told that the Church of Scientology had benefited from its relationship with Google, which had given Scientology the equivalent of $5.7 million in advertising grants.

As evidence of this, we provided a transcript of a speech made at the event by Brandy Harrison, the young Sea Org “Building Expansion Director Int,” who also said that Scientology had forged a relationship with Amazon and with the Chinese government, and had also had huge success taking over the front page of YouTube for a whole day.

At the time, the story was widely read, but it didn’t get picked up in the media the way we thought it might have. But then, out of the blue, this week it got hot again when Hacker News linked to the story, and then, yesterday, Jim Edwards at Business Insider picked it up.

So, while the story is hot again, we thought we’d throw a little kindling on it.

Our original story was based on a transcript of Brandy Harrison’s speech. But today, we have an actual recording of it. Yes, now you can hear for yourself the claims she made to that audience at the Valley Ideal Org fundraiser and experience the oohs and ahhs of the crowd.

We’ve included captions so you can follow along with what she’s saying — but the recording is pretty clear and Brandy enunciates well. She actually said quite a few things that should raise eyebrows. Here, give it a listen…

 

 
After the event, Scientology sent out this flier about it…

 
autumn gala recap

 
More than a year later, and after countless similar fundraisers, the Valley Ideal Org is still not open. It has to be one of the biggest frustrations in the Ideal Org program for David Miscavige, and we wonder why he doesn’t provide an “IAS grant” of a few million dollars and just get the thing done. The International Association of Scientologists is a slush fund of more than a billion dollars, former insiders tell us, and lately Miscavige has been drawing from it to pay for Ideal Orgs in places where local fundraising obviously wouldn’t be sufficient.

Anyway, let us know what you found most surprising about Brandy’s speech.

 
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Chris Shelton interviews Tim DeWall

Oops, meant to post this in the morning. It’s the first part of an interview that Chris did with Tim DeWall, whose story you might remember.

 

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 7, 2016 at 07:00

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  • RandomSP

    Scientology is the science of knowing how to know…

    How to know only what you are told is true without the slightest hint of critical analysis.

    So many outright lies in that little speech that it simply boggles the mind.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    I have a Reckoning Gauge, or as I like to all it, The Scientology Pinocchio Meter, that has so far been surprisingly accurate. I use it as a barometer to measure internal pressure by degrees of desperation.

    The taller the tale, the longer the lie is stretched, the more added inexplicables embedded, the higher the rate of shrinkage within. The higher the shrinkage of the almighty and holy profits, the greater the desperation level.

    Scientology boasted awhile back about a scientologist working at Google, remember that? And also at Amazon, several years back. I wouldn’t be surprised by that – Amazon was the company who refused to tell me which of their employees “accidentally” ordered a black dildo to send to me, and yes, coincidentally around the same era when this seemed to be a favorite fair game activity.

    OSA will embed one of their own groomed volunteers into companies or groups they have a specific targeted mission for, but sometimes it’s a hapless member who mentioned in their ethics folder or auditing session or even at a sci gathering that they work at so and so or for so and so. This gets passed on to PR and other departments, and eventually it gets blown all out of proportion. Sometimes the person is brought in for a reality adjustment and given a mission, other times its all just hearsay used for pure fantasy PR. The person may not even still work there, or even be declared.

    I miss Tommy. Whatever this promised Coming of the Backlash Tony has warned us about, the invisible puppet Karin is no match for the Angry Spokeshole. Pat Harney can’t hold a candle to his blowhard antics. And CNN is now Fox News II parrot partner. I hope Tommy is ordered back to keep the backlash entertaining. Otherwise, some public might get angry, real angry, hearing lie after lie like those in Brandy’s video.

    • I wonder if they use any of the job placement companies that are WISE members for those projects?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Good question, RM.

    • Ben Franklin

      I believe the only person that might bring Tommy back to life again is John Sweeney. I don’t know what it is about John Sweeney that makes Tommy go crazy.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Oh contrare’, Mr Franklin. Tommy was a walking advertisment for Anger Management Therapy Poster Boy!

        • ReallyMGM

          He was a walking, talking ad for Xanax! Damn life is good without anger management issues! Be happy!

        • Ben Franklin

          …yes, and Tommy seems to get really, really, really angry whenever he sees John Sweeney.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Exploding tomato angry!

            • Ben Franklin

              L Ron was the original when it came to anger management

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9reLONOJ7U

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              @ 2:50 one of the best quotes I’ve heard by hubs:

              “YIK YIK YIK YIK YAB YAB YAB YAB” – L Ron Hubbard

            • Ben Franklin

              Hmmm. If only he knew about “The way to Happiness”. Remember this is the expert L Ron, who knows the secret way to happiness

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Doesn’t get more brilliant than that!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              This could be a shirt for HowdyCon. Of course, I suppose there would be copyright issues…

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I would take my chances and wear the shirt.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Depends on where you put the quotation marks

              http://i.imgur.com/YyfsYg0.jpg?3

            • Qbird

              NO BEN NO!!! I will not listen to this again!

            • Ben Franklin

              For some reason, it just makes me lough every time I hear the rant.

            • Alice Graves

              Definitely OCD, ADD, with psychotic overtones.

            • ReallyMGM

              i don’t know if there needs to be an APA diagnostic code for MEAN LITTLE SHIT.

            • Sherbet

              If you read the closed captioning, the narrative makes just as much sense as the recorded words coming from the Ol’ Manatee’s flabby lips.

            • Sejanus

              I will never comprehend how anyone could listen to that lunatic and his ravings.
              That voice is something else.
              You can almost feel the spittle hitting your face.
              It makes no frigging sense whatsoever.
              He just loved his own noise…brutal.

            • order66

              I’ going to need to listen to the entire “Reign In Blood” album by Slayer to clean the Old Goat’s voice out of my ears.

        • ReallyMGM

          I think if someone smiled at Tommy he would go batshit crazy on them. So much for “The Way to Happiness.”

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Narcissists are like that. Slightest little thing and KABOOM!

            • ReallyMGM

              I hope there are no small children, elderly people or animals around when he loses his s____.

    • Observer

      So you got a dildo too? That Captain Miscavige–such a wise, mature, ecclesiastical ecclesiastical leader!

      • Sherbet

        And a black one. Was that supposed to have some snickery undertones?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Not sure if this was around the same time as Mosey and perhaps another critic got one – maybe there was a discount on the black models? I now how scientology likes a good deal. :0

          • Sherbet

            They are a klassy bunch, that church.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I don’t think I’ve stopped laughing when I first read that Dave started directing his lawyers to refer to his harassing and stalking and dildo gifting women as ecclesiastical sacraments!

              Add kinky to klassy and you get some kind of kreepy clown club!

            • Sherbet

              Sacraments AND expressions of freedom of speech. DM is all about the Bill of Rights.

            • Ben Franklin

              The man seems to be a pervert

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              He is many things to many 🙂

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        No such luck. I caught it while checking shipments I had ordered to see when they were arriving – and couldn’t help but notice the Johnson order – LOL.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I went round and round with Amazon with questions for about a month. Ultimately, they said they were “protecting” their employee’s privacy. You can imagine how well that sat with me.

        • No way to return it for credit?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Damn, I should have asked for it! LOL Actually, no charges go thru until it’s shipped.

            Oh – I Did get a little credit for my troubles. If I knew then what this was all about, I would have held out for more!

      • Dr_Orpheus

        Not just any dildo, but an RTC approved official ecclesiastical dildo. An OTViiiisgrrr8 article a while back showed the factory where they are made.

    • Sid

      “OSA will embed one of their own groomed volunteers into companies or groups they have a specific targeted mission for”

      I can attest to the truth of this. I was asked by Scientology to do just that, to infiltrate a TV news station. I refused and the other guy they sent got caught going through the news station’s Scientology files. Somehow Scientology finagled their way out of charges being brought on that one.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Oh I remember that now, Sid. Good for you! What job/position were you supposed to go in with, do you remember? Can you say which TV news station? Yeah, enough money can buy one a whole mess of finagles 🙂

        • Sid

          It was an outside security company that they used to guard the building. The Scientology operative would hire on as a guard and get complete access to the building, even at night when nobody was there.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            That makes sense. Worked out well for Operation Snow White. Oh wait….

      • Robert Ramsay

        I’d be curious to know what news station and what job. Coming from a similar background…:)

        • Sid

          It was actually up in your neck of the woods Robert, although years ago. The crazy thing was that even after the one guy got caught they tried the exact same thing again, with the same company. Scientology just doesn’t learn. Also, I talked to the guy who got caught after the whole thing happened and he warned me that if I was ever caught doing nefarious deeds for them that they’d throw me to the wolves, like they did with him. I’m glad I refused the job.

          • Robert Ramsay

            My neck of the woods eh! I worked for the Mother Corp for approx. 30 years with my main client being news (local/national) so I’m gonna bet that this might just have something to do with the 5th Estate ?:)…non.

            • Sid

              Bingo!

            • Robert Ramsay

              Hana and I were on the same floor. After the show ran my brother Peter (OSA) surreptitiously tried to extract info about where I worked etc. At that time I already knew where he was coming from.

            • Sid

              When we’re up that way this summer we should get together for coffee.

            • Robert Ramsay

              Most definitely.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              They’re so sneaky – in a Keystone Cops sort of way. We had so many trying to find out where Mr H worked after all the crap they did, no work for a year, and then suddenly all these people came out of the woodwork. One, out of state, suddenly showed up at this store he was at –

              That reminded me of something, Robert! I just checked on someone who we got a Xmas card from this year – kind of puzzling why – not a member as far as we know, but worked with many. I checked on the internetz and they are real tight with the same ones – even tho they supposedly detest the sci. LOL. How low – using Santa as a cover?

            • Robert Ramsay

              During the holiday season perhaps Krampus would be a more appropriate cover 🙂

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              good idea – maybe next year I’ll send them a kranky krampus card.

    • ReallyMGM

      Oh my THDNE, this is good, but the last paragraph is epic. Tony has warned of this backlash, and it is here. Introducing the “Co$: Victims of Anti-religious Bigotry 2016.” (Cry me a river, assh*les)

      As far as Pat Harney vs. Tommy Davis, I would have liked to have seen Tommy modeling at the Ft Harrison fashion show….in a ball gown.

      Poor Brandy. She is younger than my daughter (or looks like it). I wish she could get out and have a wonderful future outside of the CoS. I think about how much of life she has missed already.

  • Snippy_X

    If her stats are real, they actually provide a pitiful picture of the state of Scientology. Start with the Mark Ultra VIII E-meter ad. Say half of the two clicks per second were human. (This is generous.) That’s 86,400 clicks per day or if that rate was sustained for 30 days, it’s 2.6 million clicks a month. How many of those people went on to complete the Personal Eff. Course? She says, “Since then …” there has been 1 completions every 5 minutes. That’s 200 completions/day or 6000 comp. per month. So out of the 2,592,000 clicks/month on the ad, 6000 people got through the course. That’s 2/10 of a percent. Lets say all the other first step on the bridge activities bring that up to 1%. she is telling us 99% of the people who see that ad each month call bullshit on it. Now that’s encouraging.

    How are we doing as far as clearing the planet? Let’s see. 200 completions per day on this course works out to 73,000 completions per year. Sounds good, except the bridge is very long and very expensive and at the end of that year, there are 80,000,000 more people on the planet. That means during that 5 minutes interval, when one person completed this bogus course, the earth’s population increased by 1000 persons. (That’s the first step on the bridge that they won’t be able to afford to complete, btw) This doesn’t look good for the planet.

    What does mean mean at the local level? There are about 80 orgs worldwide. 6000 completions a month / 80 orgs gives us 75 completions per org per month. This is 70x the previous rate (which took 60 years to acheive). Thus, before the ad, there would have been about 1 completion per month per org. That sounds about right, based on the flyers. We should see a room full of people on those flyers from Sept 2014 forward from every org around the planet. Hmmm. I wonder if she embellished the numbers a bit.

    • Jimmy3

      So you’re telling me there’s a chance?

      • Snippy_X

        Yes, relax. They have a chance of clearing the planet. But it will take a mass die off.

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          … or oceanic cometary impact!

        • Jimmy3

          Are we pulling that in?

  • Royce Harlow

    I’m sure the 30 people who attended the Valley Gala had a good time. The photoshopped people in the group pictures probably had fun too.

  • Mark

    To paraphrase Sir Henry Wooton ever so slightly: “A Building Expansion Director is a dishonest girl sent to lie like a rug for the good of Miscavige.” (Refresh your snifter):

    • Ben Franklin

      “Building Expansion Director”

      I wonder what the job description for such a post reads like.

      • Mark

        “Must provide own footpump”?

        • Ben Franklin

          lol

      • Royce Harlow

        How soon do you think she’ll end up in the Hole (that is if she isn’t there already)?

        • Ben Franklin

          I have been wondering if she still holds the same post.

          • Juicer77

            Others would know for sure, but a few months ago I recall commenters speculating that they hadn’t seen her in a while.

        • Baby

          I hate to see anyone go into the Hole.. The very thought makes me sick..

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You are too kind, Mark. That off-center Valley emblem over the door disappeared over a year ago and has never been replaced. I cannot imagine how long a small barrel of cognac would last in this location.

      • Mark

        I don’t think there’s any booze left in the barrel, Doug—just lighter-fuel in case Brandy’s knickers go out. Though they probably drink that there, as well.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I hear if you filter it through a slice of bread, it makes quite a palatable aperitif…

  • ThetanPlace

    Let’s all tweet our disappointment in @Google and @Adwords. (Just did.)

  • Qbird

    Police Chief Chad Loewen is on vacation until Jan. 11th. I will have to call back on Monday to find out 3 things.
    1.) How does he use the materials sent to him from the FDFW?
    2.) Is he aware that The Foundation for a Drug Free World is a front group for The {{{Church}}} of Scn., Inc.
    And lastly 3.) Has he seen “Going Clear” yet.
    Rather than emailing him, I think I’m-a just going to talk to him.

    • Baby

      OH Q..DO EEEEEEEEET.. I love your avi.. You got the Bunker behind you.. and You have the facts.. You go and deliver!

      • Qbird

        You guys really need to understand this: Babbitt Minnesota is a teeny tiny small town, a lot like Silverbay and that it is kind of dying. Nothing goes on there. It is in the middle of nowhere and is insignificant on the landscape of Minnesota. Scn., Inc. makes a big deal out of nothing!

        • Baby

          I understand Rubberband

        • Sejanus

          But according to Brandy it is like ground zero for the worst drug action on the planet.
          I am sure the town fathers would be thrilled with the portrayal.
          Something tells me that letter is waaaaaay out of context if it is even real.

          • Qbird

            Brandy probably has never been to Babbit, so she doesn’t really know what she’s talking about. Most people on the earth have not been to Babbit, I’d wager. Most people simply bypass it on their way to Ely. Easy to do, you just blink & you’ve passed it by. Ely is almost 3 times the population of Babbit but at least Ely has a claim to fame somewhat, it is the main access to entrances into the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness (MN) and its sister wilderness area, the Quetico Provincial Park (CA).

            Yeah, I really do wonder if the police chief knows his letter was used in this special briefing message to the chirch. I hope to find out.

    • Sandy

      I was SO hoping you would see this today

      • Qbird

        I saw this last year, Sandy. I wrote my congressman about it and never got a response. I talked to my local yokel law-enforcement people here letting them know who this group represents. They never even heard of it… and my small town is the same size as Babbitt. However, my teeny town was voted the “best small town in America” on some stupid Facebook thingy. Whatever.
        This is COS bullshit PR – nothing more.

  • Qbird

    She speaks the truth here & the crowd sniggers ~ bc they know… they know that the regging never ends,

    Ad infinitum.

  • SucculentDuck

    does this relationship with Google count all of the $cn links when using Google as a search engine or Chrome as a browser? i can see how that might add up to the equivalent of $5.7mil in “free ads.” too bad not all of that advertising equals a positive, but hey, count it!

    i can’t wait to see them keep the actual finished Valley Ideal Org looking all fresh & new like in the pic ‘cuz about 1 block north is the fucking ghetto where it gets scary after dark. is there a self-defence PL or any bullbaiting TR that deals with getting shanked?

  • Newiga

    Thank you for the interview, Chris and Tim. ^_^

  • Ronn S.

    I couldn’t stomach barely more than 3 minutes of it. Utter hogwash. What is more amazing is I believe she believes it!

  • Cymboli

    The people in the back saying wow is just…. seriously…. wow.

  • eloise

    Just was flipping around TV channels and happened upon Kirstie Alley on Wendy Williams show and she caused me to go exterior from rolling my eyes so hard when she went on and on to Wendy about how obsessed with Tupac Shakur she is. She said she was feeling really sad over Christmas because she was missing Tupac after watching ‘Straight out of Compton’, which he isn’t (or a characterization of him) in! She made Wendy Tupac socks!

  • April Moonlight

    Does anyone feel like transcribing the video of Brandy speaking? I tried to listen to it but felt queasy… I just can’t stomach it. The word that comes to mind is sleezy. 🙁

    • Glen

      I think you can just turn the sound off and read the subtitles.I

    • Qbird

      It is transcribed on TO’s article from last year April.

      • April Moonlight

        Ok, thanks! That’s what happens when I skim the story and go straight to the videos. It is indeed transcribed and linked to, my mistake. I need to slow down and read the whole flippin’ article before posting! Feel free to ridicule me today, lol. :p

        • Qbird

          no no sweetie. no ridicule, only sharing of information.

        • you….you….you cupcake you!!!! 😀

    • Sarah James

      Propaganda soup never sits well in the tummy.

  • Joe

    I just wanted to say that I understand there may be a backlash against the criticism of the past year, but since Going Clear there are people like me who will steadfastly argue that the criticism is valid and well-deserved. I remember being young and seeing the volcano TV commercial and not knowing what the hell it was advertising. Then, I saw South Park and thought their theology was loopy and weird and at the very worst, a cash grab by the man who created it, but when I saw Going Clear it broke my heart and more importantly it brought me here. I remember what they did to people like Paulette Cooper, Spanky Taylor, and Leah Remini and a lot of the people I see here every day and it makes me angry that they think they can treat people like they’re nothing. So now when Scientology is brought up in a conversation, I don’t say they’re weird. I say they’re dangerous. I say they’re sinister. To say they’re weird or bizarre is to take the focus off of their actions and put it on their beliefs. I don’t care what they believe, but the minute those beliefs manifest into actions that cause physical, mental, and emotional pain is where I say enough. You can be a fundamentalist Christian and think adulterers should be stoned to death and that’s really your business, but the minute you pick up a rock and throw it is when I have a problem and I will go out of my way to make sure no one forgets what you did and what you insist on doing. So that’s how I feel now. Popular opinion may sway in the opposite direction and some people may feel sympathy for the scrutiny Scientology is under right now, but not me. I won’t let someone change the conversation. They talk about Xenu, I’ll talk about Lisa McPherson. You talk about thetans, I’ll talk about the Hole and the beatings. They can try and hide behind the IRS and the First Amendment, but I’m not buying it. and there’s plenty of people just like me.

    • Mockingbird

      I can not agree strongly enough. I know people who died as part of the con. That is more real than the story Reza Aslan will tell.

    • Ben Franklin

      The most important thing is to keep clarifying to people that the biggest problem with the Church of Scientology is what they do to people and not what they believe in. The backlash would be from people who are tired of hearing about the ills caused by any religion because they believe that religion is the source of all problems in the world.

      It is not about Scientology religious beliefs, it is about human right abuses. Human abuse should concern everyone whether they believe in religion or not. Criticism of ones action and demand for change is not hate. Hate is when you dislike someone for who they are or what they believe in. What the majority of critics hate and want to end are the harmful actions taken by Scientologists against others

      • scottmercer

        Also, promoters of religion should NOT be promoting Scientology. Scientology is NOT a religion, it is an organized fraud mafia that takes on the trappings of religion to gain power and money. The fact that Aslan doesn’t even get that destroys whatever jot of credibility he claims to possess.

        • Ben Franklin

          People who understand Scientology know that it is not a religion in traditional sense. The Church of Scientology does its best to try and convince people that it is a legitimate religion. The problem is there are people out there who just dismiss Scientology as just another wacky”religion” because they don’t understand what Scientology is all about, or don’t care to find out either. These are the type of people Tony aptly referred to as “What is the fuss” people. These are the people who tend to think that complaints against Scientology is about what Scientologists believe in rather than what they do.

          For “what the fuss” crowd, every religion has a crazy myth or belief therefore they don’t understand or see the big deal with Scientology, or why they should care to do something about it. This is where it is important to point out that the issue with Scientology is not about the beliefs they hold, but, it is about their actions (i.e Disconnection, manipulation, coercion, emotional and the physical abuse).

          • daytoncapri

            The fuss is about what Scientology DOES, not what it believes. Think Westboro Baptist.

      • Lighthouse

        “The most important thing is to keep clarifying to people that the
        biggest problem with the Church of Scientology is what they do to people
        and not what they believe in.”

        A perfect truth.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks for explaining all this. And welcome to the “Not Buying the Backlash” Club. You’re our first member. Congrats! Obs will shoop you a cert, and NOLAgirl will bring cocktails. I believe Sherb or MIss Tia are on refreshments today.

      Can you ask your friends to pipe up too? Love to hear the man and woman in the street’s take on all this. I especially appreciate knowing how you got here and why you ain’t buying.

      • Joe

        I work in an office and I remember after we all saw Going Clear, we talked about how blown away we were. We just couldn’t believe that basically such a corrupt, depraved organization had operated under our noses for the past 50 years completely uninhibited and uninterrupted. We talked about how we believed the stories told by Spanky and Sara and Tony and Mike and everyone else in the movie. The looks on their faces after they saw the movie really makes me believe no amount of puff pieces can change their perception of Scientology.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Good to know your take away. I share their sentiment – I can’t believe it either. I couldn’t believe the first time I and others I knew tried to raise the authorities and get help decades ago, and more have continued all these years. This, even when we were still believers, in the Sea Org, and some pubic scientologists. That’s one sure way out of scientology – if you actually apply all the ethics policies and procedures when you see or know about real criminal activities, real “suppressive” actvity, you wind up going outside the organization. It’s a scary step, that last one.

          But for all it takes to get there and do that, your terror quickly turns into rage and disgust and frustration when you learn no help is coming. I know now that scientology embeds spies anywhere they know they are breaking the law. I know now that scientology can afford with all their billions to buy anyone’s silence and pay for every bribe.

          That’s why I hope Alex Gibney does make a second movie – one that now goes into the child abuse, child labor, more on all the financial fraud, the criminal activities, all of it including interviews on camera with the IRS, the FBI, Children and Family Welfare, Visa, Immigration, Human Trafficking – I’d like to hear them explain to the public why they don’t/cant/won’t do anything, even though it is America, even though it’s the 21st century.

          Because you and so many others have asked the same question after Going Clear has sunk in: How can this happen/continue in American in the 21st century? Going Clear II would do well to answer your questions. I’ve been waiting nearly 40 years.

      • Sherbet

        I’m icing the cupcakes now.

    • Very well said Joe!!

      • Joe

        Thanks!

        • OOkpik

          Excellent write up, Joe. Thanks.

    • JanInThePan

      Beautifully stated.

    • Sejanus

      Well stated.

    • daytoncapri

      Thank for showing us the track. Dangerous, the weird is not what matters really; Lisa McP, while Xenu does not matter really; the hole and beatings, while thetans do not matter really. What’s the fuss? CNN can take the question to you. We can add more topics like broken families, financial scams and bankrupcies, forced abortions.

    • Lighthouse

      I don’t think that you’ll find many, Joe, who don’t think like you, at least those in the know. You bring up a good point. Scn must go. It must end. I think the only way the downslide will begin is when an IRS investigation gets underway. I believe it’ll be the beginning of the end, hopefully the beginning of the avalanche into the gutter.

    • FredEX

      Well said. Completely agree. I know people whose lives were ruined and changed forever bc of this dangerous corporation masquerading as a ‘religion’. Some of the sickest and most psychopathic & dangerous Are among their ranks and enact out every evil known to humanity on those in, those who have left…and those who were never Scientologists.

  • FOTF2012

    I’m sorry, but every time I see the Sea Org get-up with the medals and braid and so on, I can’t help but think that this is the Salvation Army pretending to have gone scientific.

  • scottmercer

    70 times expansion? Maybe. 70 times zero is still zero.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Does anyone know if Brandy Rae Shaw Getto Harrison is related to Ben Shaw in any way? Her parents I understand are Michael S and Peggy (nee Crawford) Shaw. Remember I keep saying there’s no way celebs and whales don’t know nuthin’ – because they’re all either related or have worked with/for each other? Peggy used to be Kirstie Alley’s assistant, as well as a Mission holder in a number of states.

    I remember Brandy used to do some fundraising tours with “CO OSA”. Just curious how deeply her family line is in – if she’s 2nd gen or 3rd gen.

    • Observer

      Oho! I thought this Peggy looked like Brandy! Flyer swiped from Rinder’s blog.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    https://otviiisgrrr8.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/porch.jpg?w=750&h=563

    Scientology’s Front Porch to Infinity Flooded by El Nino Storms

    The Church of Scientology’s brand new front porch to infinity, the same porch just celebrated by COB RTC David Miscavige at the New Year’s Eve event, was flooded today by severe El Nino storms in Hemet,
    California.

    “Front porch access to infinity is blocked until the floodwaters recede,” said Church spokesman Ken Delusion. “Scientology parishioners will need to access infinity using the service elevator at the Celebrity
    Center for the next few days.”

    “Temporary RTC-authorized Celebrity Centre infinity elevator passes are available to IAS Platinum status members and higher for $25,000 each and are good for five rides to infinity,” Delusion noted.

    “OSA is investigating those Int Base crims who pulled in this flood to sabotage COB.”

    • ReallyMGM

      Hope the front porch of infinity isn’t facing the Mississippi River because it is under water if it is.

    • Qbird

      OT8 – when are ya gonna jump ship? So many leaks in yer boat.

      https://youtu.be/pg1qK6rjx5k

    • Ben Franklin

      “Temporary RTC-authorized Celebrity Centre infinity elevator passes are available to IAS Platinum status members and higher for $25,000 each and are good for five rides to infinity,”

      I would imagine that when I take a ride to infinity, I am not coming back, since it is infinity after all. The big question I have is this: What happens to my other 4 unused rides? Do I have to call Mike Elis from infinity to get my refund?

      • OOkpik

        We come back, donchaknow? Your tickets are still good for another four recyclings.

    • Jgg2012

      Yes, empty orgs are good for collecting water, which CA desperately needs.

    • Orglodyte

      The Infinity Porch has become an Infinity Pool!

    • pluvo

      “Front Porch to Infinity”

      You got that wrong. What the Ceeohbee really meant is “Front Porch of Insanity”.

    • Graham

      One of your best OTVIIIisGrr8 🙂

    • The Infinity Porch is now an Infinity Pool? Cool!

      Infinity Pool: a swimming pool whose positioning gives the impression that it merges into the ocean or other surrounding landscape. In this case, garbage dump.

    • ze moo

      Motel 6 will leave the porch light on for me. Wih Ken Delusion do the same?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Ken Delusion will write on KR on you.

    • Lucille Austero

      So that’s why my feet felt wet!

    • JanInThePan

      Infinity pool or hot tub?

    • aegerprimo

      Oh too bad.

  • Qbird

    Bye bye Newt! Thank you ~ come again. Feel free to impart your wisdom upon Man.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Valley Org. The candle’s flame to this little moth. Love seeing the confident assertions of the recent and distant past. Like the quote from “N.C.” in the flyer: “This was the best event ever! The architect from Gensler was blow away! [That’s what she said.] He gave real mass and significance of ‘Why Valley’ and why this location. The Building Expansion Dir Int’s comm was so perfect. It was really from the heart. A lot of data people didn’t have before. More people raised their status tonight than I have ever seen! The completion is within sight!

    Nancy, Nancy. Nancy. (I am postulating it is you, Miss Governess of the Vast Valley and Related Realms.) What does “within sight” mean? Can you Word Clear it? I have an M/U. I would think it would mean at least something discernible in over a year…

    (refresh– for a recent oldie but goodie)

    • Jgg2012

      I would bet that its flooded today.

  • I know nothing anymore about airlines, flying, etc but I thought I’d share this as it might help some of you for HowdyCon. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/30911497/frontier-airlines-announces-new-routes-big-deals

    • Cece

      Thanks Tia. I got mine using goggle flights. The same flights are already 30$ more only a few days later. Reserving 6mos ahead is probably best as it’s unlikely they will be less 2 months ahead even with the new service. Course if you don’t have funds to reserve now then yes, this may help come April. Thanks for all your work on this 🙂

      • Well this story read that Frontier that there might be cheap specials now—if you’re at one of the locations they’re flying non-stop from. Definitely worth looking into for people!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Allegiant has low fares too, although not many of them. Anyone going from Florida or South Carolina?

    • Missionary Kid

      The lowest fares from the L.A. area I found were on Southwest. I don’t want to leave until late Sunday, so I think I’ll stay over until Monday morning.
      Edited for spelling.

    • Missionary Kid

      I should also say that the lowest fares on Southwest were from Ontario, Ca. to Cleveland. Burbank and LAX flights cost more.

    • ReallyMGM

      Airfare prices are notoriously high from my non-hub, small city…enough that it is a continuing news story here. But just checked and $500 round trip with one stop is sounds cheap. (Enough that I wonder if it is an error)

  • Qbird

    oh humorous! Tim’s twin “cooked an Ethics book!” Bwahahahah!

    https://31.media.tumblr.com/431d771496fe9c1d915144af41c6129f/tumblr_mm2nu9btpp1qgmng6o1_500.gif

  • SucculentDuck

    chickenshit Truth and Justice deleted some perfectly good comments below. why? what’s the point of coming here if you can’t even leave them up for 5 minutes? do you honestly think we aren’t going to respond? this is Tony’s house, and we as guests here are damn well gonna clean up our mess before we leave.

    • ReallyMGM

      No courage of his/her convictions?

      • no confront and shatter…..

      • Missionary Kid

        Even if T & J is just some troll doing a drive-by, and not a clam, deleting their comments makes them look like a chickenshit.

        They obviously don’t stand behind their words, because their words vanish.

        • like their bank accounts if they’re really a sci!

          • SucculentDuck

            and absolutely pointless if a general population troll. i don’t get it. what a waste of MEST.

        • ReallyMGM

          I still don’t use the scio-speak. Just my words, or usually my grandmother’s (smartest woman I ever knew.) coming out of my mouth.

        • ReallyMGM

          Edited below!

      • SucculentDuck

        exactly, Really MGM! if they want to dance, let’s dance. i have some new tap shoes all polished up and ready for action. ho-hum, c’est la vie.

        • let’s dance….put on your red shoes…..

          • beauty for ashes

            ..and dance the blues..

    • Observer

      ..

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Cowardly troll is cowardly.

  • CLEARly pissed off

    OT. I have a feeling that a herd of SO members will be sent to the Hole for allowing a rainstorm to hit Int.
    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Flash-Flood-Warning-Riverside-County-Weather-Rain-Storm-284740151.html
    I seem to recall the last time there was a heavy rain storm at Gilman Hot Springs, DM punished a number of the Int crew.
    The LA TV news video even shows a map that labels Golden Era Golf Course.

    “…Aerial video showed at least two vehicles, including a sport utility vehicle, surrounded by mud on Gilman Springs Road in Gilman Hot Springs, about 30 miles southeast of Riverside. In nearby Hemet, at least three drivers’ vehicles stalled as they attempted to cross a flooded intersection in the 1000 block of Sanderson Avenue…”

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Were any faux ships seen floating down the street?

      • Sherbet

        Finally! A job for the Sea Org!

        • Missionary Kid

          *laughter*

          • ReallyMGM

            I hope some people can swim to freedom.

            • Missionary Kid

              The problem is that the prison is inside their mind. It would, indeed be an opportunity to blow, but I’m sure they are led to believe that they will immediately be brought back.

            • ReallyMGM

              I know, MK. So, so many would stay if the doors and gates were open and there were rides available.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          LOL – well, if you see a ship, watch out for the swimming pool. It should be right behind. How is Dave gonna discipline his Hemet slaves now?! And what is going to float out of the hole if it fills up?

          • Sherbet

            I keep looking, but I don’t see any plank to walk.

    • Missionary Kid

      That woman in the video was described as a “nearby resident.” Is she a $cientologist? The reason I asked was because she talked about “buildings” plural, and there’s really not many other houses along Gilman Springs road.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Edited: Oops! Never mind, I did not realize I was referring to a report from December 2014. I have no idea if there was flooding today.

      • seriouslyWTF

        This report is from Dec 2014.

        • CLEARly pissed off

          Sorry, my bad. I thought it was from the recent storm we are having at the moment here in SoCal.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Thanks seriously. I am going to edit my post.

          • ReallyMGM

            Hey, it happens. No worries. 🙂

      • SucculentDuck

        probably not today since it was fairly sunny. yesterday, the 5 fwy thru Burbank/Glendale north of Griffith Park was officially declared (teehee) a river.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      2014.

    • SucculentDuck

      any report on how their nuts are doing? probably fine as the titanium cases were built to precise squirrel spec. no, wait, that doesn’t sound right. are the squirrels voluntarily held at Gold or Twin Peaks? so confuse.

      (i realize this report is from 2014 – just very concerned about nuts during the Great L.A. Rainageddon of 2016)

      — edited to congratulate Co$ on their ad dollars at work! —

  • ReallyMGM

    Well, by the looks of our proprietor’s Twitter feed questions regarding MacKenzie Phillips’ stand on Co$ are “clear.”

    • Observer

      I wouldn’t be surprised if she had been the target of recruitment at some point.

      • ReallyMGM

        When she was busted at LAX for heroin possession, Bijou bailed her out on the stipulation she went to rehab. It was Narconon in Louisiana. Afterward Mack wrote her book with the stuff re: Papa J, Bijou went berserk. It was a nasty, sordid mess. I doubt they speak to each other.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Well, her sister is married to Danny Masterson. How would you feel about that? Ugh!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Oatee 2 — “Spot a sign. A sign near Valley Org.”

    (seen across the street from Valley iDol mOrgue. ETA: sighted from The Front Porch to Infinity at Valley Org.)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      You know how to tell if you’re bankrupt in scientology? The regges stop calling you 24 times day and the recruiters start following you 24 hours a day.

      • ze moo

        Is that before you’ve sold one kidney or after?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          The “You Only Need One Kidney Call Center” barrage begins after Sec Checks.

    • Nice.

  • salin

    Classic story within the interview. New image for cooking the books.

  • Sejanus

    Finally had some time to listen to the video of Brandy Harrison.

    Provable bullshit with 47x expansion.

    It is amazing they can stay so deluded in this day and age.

  • Jenna Elfman shilling for Youth For Human Rights at Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenna-elfman/the-unthinkable-is-happen_b_8931500.html

    pic

    • also a little something for our amateur shoopsters… I made the Shoopz COB post yesterday into a full mask so if you download it you can copy and paste it into any other pic or grab…. for example I added it to the grab I posted above to give you an idea of how it can be used….

      2 pics

      edit…. just realised Disqus can’t handle a masked pic… shame

      EDIT 2…. I’ve added this to my blog – here’s the direct link to the pic you can save as a proper mask https://www.scientologybollocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/COB-full-mask-685×1024.png

    • JanInThePan

      Is this for real?!

    • madame duran

      Just a note:

      “Saving Innocence” and the National Human Trafficking Hotline, to the best of my knowledge, are NOT rooted in Scientology. They are NOT Scientology front groups. Jenna Elfman’s shilling for YFHR comes in as an asterisked footnote at the end of the article. She is basically riding on the coattails of other people’s activism.

      I’m glad Jenna is writing on this topic of human/child sex trafficking. Why? Because it gives a nice contrast between what LEGIT aid/resource organizations are doing versus what the Cult of Scientology passes off as “help” in addressing this worldwide problem. Secondly, it provides an opportunity for critics to hold Scientology celebs like Elfman to account regarding their willful blindness and lack of action regarding the various abuses existing within their own cult organization.

      Kim Biddle (mentioned in the article; Founder & Executive Director of Saving Innocence) has a Masters of Social Work degree. In other words, she’s highly educated…unlike Jenna. In her bio from SI’s website, it states that Kim

      began her work with human trafficking in 2003 when she traveled to Thailand and Cambodia in partnership with Saddleback Church and the International Justice Mission. She returned to the United States to help found the Saddleback Justice Task Force and focus on aftercare resource development for caretakers of survivors in Third World countries. Over the years, she has narrowed her focus from global human trafficking to domestic minor sex trafficking, leading her to found Saving Innocence to provide the needed crisis response and advocacy for this underserved population in the United States.

      In other words, we have a person who has real-life experience and, motivated by her Christian values, has also taken initiative. She isn’t simply pontificating about human rights or minor sex trafficking. She’s not just handing out PSA videos and booklets. Kim is actively engaged in the issue. She knows first-hand what she’s talking about…unlike Jenna (who sounds like a total newbie on the subject–“Ermahgerd! Child sex trafficking happens in the USA?? NO WAY!!”. She then writes her article under the assumption that everyone else in America is equally ignorant–“Do you know what your human rights are?” No, Jenna…I thought being forced into sex work was a protected constitutional and ecclesiastical right. Please enlighten us. *rolls eyes*).
      We have documented proof that Jenna Elfman is capable of learning about something that was, at least for her, a hidden world. She had preconceptions, associating child sex trafficking “with countries like Thailand or Brazil”. She admits that she was “naïve” and “unwilling to face the facts” until one day, someone or something opened her eyes to the truth. Now armed with concrete knowledge, Jenna says “I couldn’t keep driving around my town, pretending the problem didn’t exist. It was happening in hotel rooms of popular hotels that I was driving right by, clueless. I decided to take action…”. Jenna is mad as hell (as she should be) and tells us that “awareness and education are key” to ending child exploitation. I couldn’t agree more. And yet when it comes to confronting the abuses within Scientology (as outlined in Alex Gibney’s film, “Going Clear” and Leah Remini’s book “Troublemaker”), Jenna is curiously unable to apply the same process of research, increasing self-awareness, and taking remedial action. Instead, she tweets a blanket response about not being interested in “sensationalism”. She sides with a cult that labels ANYONE who criticizes it as “liars” without question. She adopts the “what’s true for you is true” stance (like fellow Scientologist, John Travolta) where all existence of abuse within Scientology is automatically denied because it didn’t personally happen to them. The wall of denial is indeed staggering. The irony is even higher. Jenna is in need of another eye-opening lesson.
      To what extent Jenna is “helping” Saving Innocence is unclear. It seems she’s reaping the benefit in having the group provide HER all the insights that Scientology fails to give. While Kim is out there working with other social and legal agencies to create practical solutions, Jenna is pushing Scientology’s agenda by giving a free plug for YFHR. That’s sleazy, lazy activism if you ask me. What exactly is the Cult of Scientology doing to handle this disturbing trend of child sex trafficking anyway? How many young lives has it rescued? How is it showing leadership in combatting this global evil? Reciting the items detailed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights isn’t going to stop the pimps from luring in their next prey (in the same way that handing out WTH booklets won’t stop police brutality and rising racial tension in Ferguson, MO). The cult is a farce agent for social change. If I were Jenna, I’d be totally embarrassed by my “church” response.

  • Paul V. Tupointeau

    Babbitt Minnesota police are still shilling for the CoS: http://www.babbitt-mn.com/police-department/police-department.html :-((

    • Paul V. Tupointeau

      Just wondering… if 2 officers (incl. the Chief) are “trained to instruct” Truth About Drugs… who trained them and where? :-/

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s been discussed a while earlier. Apparently Babbit is a very small town. I’d be suspicious about any claims made by $cientology. A couple of Bunkaroos are probably going to go there to speak with the chief. It will be interesting to see what his take is.

      • Paul V. Tupointeau

        Interesting indeed! What grabbed my attention was that the Babbitt PD were shilling on their own site. I’d love to see some Bunkeroos go talk to them.

  • “…Scientology has expanded 47x.” No elaboration on this point? What exactly expanded? How do you measure “Scientology” anyway?

    “We introduced the online world…” What’s an “online world” and how do introduce it?

    “…Clicking on our website.” What the fuck century are you from? You don’t ‘click on a website’. You ‘visit’ a website, and you don’t measure those visits in ‘people clicking’. You measure it in “unique visitors”.

    “…at a rate of two people every second.” No mention of the duration that that level of ‘clicking’ was set up?

    “…73 times book one auditing hours.” “…20 times the number of Life Improvement.” Twenty/Seventy-three times what, exactly?

    I’m only like three minutes in. It makes me want to reach inside my brain and tear out my parietal lobe when I hear a Scientologist talk about anything. So many unanswered questions and they just ignore them. No one stops to wonder why they are only hearing bullshit like “this times that times this times that”. Why not any hard figures?

    • aegerprimo

      Jeez Derek, doncha know…
      47x = eleventry trillion !!!!11!!!1!!
      …and so on and so forth.

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s $cientolomath. As I posted easier, their statistics are all based on the square root of minus one – an imaginary number.

    • stanrogers

      “Scientology” is measured in points or picas, depending on whether you’re worried about layout or typesetting. 47x is pretty impressive if they actually managed it; not all typefaces look good that large.

  • Also, why is it a good thing to be the only religion accessible to the country of China over the internet?

    • Chinese probably correctly don’t see scientology as a religion.

      • Or they see it as one that supports their aims.

    • madame duran

      China also supports the hermit-like nation of North Korea with its personality cult regime.
      Scientology and North Korea.
      Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!

  • Dear Chief of Police in Babbit, Minnesota. If you think Scientology’s drug-ed program is comprehensive and/or up-to-date, you need to go back and finish high school.

  • nottrue

    Just alittle longer and the Valley Org will be Ideal..

  • aegerprimo

    I think Brandy Harrison has the same speech writer as COB himself!
    Mr. Dan Mullethead Sherman…
    Scientology’s speechwriter, the word of God, and a Hubbard bio that will never see the light of day
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/07/21/scientologys-speechwriter-the-word-of-god-and-a-hubbard-bio-that-will-never-see-the-light-of-day/

  • What in god’s name is a “fully authorized entity” on Twitter? Fuck my life. I hate Scientologists. BRB while I stab my ear drums for even listening to this dumbass speech.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Good Grief!

    PHOTO CAPTION – “So this happened! I enrolled in my first online @scientology Course. I’m going to Give it a shot. New year, new beginnings.

    P.S if you are going to post hate, just go somewhere else. #Scientology #NewYear #newbeginnings #onlinecourses

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BAPgC9XpiVB/

    • beauty for ashes

      Bless her heart. She must be some kind of special.

    • JanInThePan

      Since when does Scientology offer online courses? Is that a new thing? Probably have to give your financial information and that of your nearest and dearest just to get a login/password combination..

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I know that they have been offering online PR courses for some time. That’s right, folks. Let’s learn about successful Public Relations from an organization with the worst PR on the planet! GAH!

        • JanInThePan

          In the dictionary under Irony, it says see irony. With a picture of Big Blue and your comment underneath it.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Leave it to LRH put the R-O-N in IRONY!

    • madame duran

      What was this person expecting upon sharing the news? A round of applause?
      Willfully ignorant people like this deserve to be inundated with Scientology mailings and phone calls that will drive them mad for the next 25 years straight.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Do they provide a free surreptitious download and installation of GAT II ‘net nanny’ with that? One thing for sure is that the ‘supervisor’ is also ‘double hatted as a ‘ruin finder and registrar probably collecting commissions on your further courses.

  • Has anyone else noticed that the YouTube takeovers have ended?

    • Shhh!!! Watch ’em have a take over next weekend or something now!

      • I was thinking more along the lines of “Scientology ruins everything.” Just like with the whole Atlantic scandal.

        • Oh yeah, I had forgotten that one!!

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Every single time they are lying about expansion they haul out the 47X stat.
    Jeez cant they vary it up a bit.
    ” Already the reach from raw pubic has escalated to a whole new level”, Yeah if by escalated you mean non existent.
    Xenu damn it, I cant listen to anymore. Brandy must have told a bald faced lie every ten seconds in her speech. Keep clapping sheep, at all the meaningless bull and lies you are being fed by Brandy.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Why am I afraid that this could have something to do with the roll out of OT9?
    Hide your KITTIES!
    (refresh)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BAPT0YhBIdD/

    • Kim O’Brien

      is the cat paying $$ to yell at those photos ?

  • Kim O’Brien

    So ……when i meet ya’ll at HowdyCon ……it will be just days after i turn

    ( wait for it )

    47 !!!!!!!!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssnw2GA657s

    • Jimmy3

      Happy birthday!

    • FYI Eddie wants to hang out with you. I told him you were coming from Denver. He said you’d probably be a good person to hang out with. 🙂

    • beauty for ashes

      We should make “47” tee shirts!

    • Missionary Kid

      You’re a kid. I wish you health, wealth, and happiness for the rest of your long life.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Me too! Well, not 47, but the days part. It’s gonna be a Bunker Birthday Blowout! We’ve got Dee that weekend too. I’m hitting 42 and staying there for a while. It IS the best number, right?

      • Jimmy3

        L. Wrong is the right answer.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Danke!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Hah!!

    • I’m turning 47 in April…..the year of FORTY SEVEN!!!

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        This a perfect way to enhance the 47 meme.

  • Spike Robinson

    just because I loves ya all…

    • salin

      The personality test wrapped into an STD check?

      Here is what so sad. My normal brain says: mocking – as if post. Then the critic part of the brain says: Wouldn’t put it past them to use this unrelated issue as a front group to push Scientology. Then I curse that my once great “Onion” (re: the mag) detector gets sometimes stymied when it comes to Co$. What I would normally dismiss as funny absurd Onion-type post, is suddenly wtf? really? or joke? – With Co$ the bs and false fronts are so egregious that it is hard to tell the difference.

      • This is an actual billboard.I can’t tell you how many people have approached me and asks if it ti reminds me of that Dianetics add.

        https://media.giphy.com/media/3oxRmgWs5ZXfwxdgEE/giphy.gif

        • salin

          Wow. Skepticism is running deep and wide. That’s a good thing.

      • SucculentDuck

        i don’t think the AHF is a front group (please correct me if I’m wrong, but they use reputable doctors and support gay rights/Out Of the Closet organization) there was probably some subliminal message involved since Dianetics and Syphilis are both things most people do not want.

        • salin

          Your description would indicate it is not a front. Thanks for the extra information.

          My point is that even when posted facetiously, it can be hard to read the sarcasm because some of the fronts are so ugly/ironic – like the CCHR – reportedly about human rights – but really about fighting psychiatry in all forms and while supporting Co$ and all its human rights violations of members.

          • SucculentDuck

            I’m with you. It’s not a great ad, and one that reminds people (Derek @dbloch7986 – sorry brother) of Dianetics is an odd angle. Shocking imagery but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt that it’s purely for “the burning sensation” for now and not some deeper, nefarious tie-in. It’s got me thinking and I will do some more investigating around town.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I guess that the good thing about celebrating NYE at The Fort Harrison Hotel is that when you break your kid’s neck there are a lot of clams around to offer a touch assist… SMH

    PHOTO CAPTION – “How @jennaelfman and I spent our last few minutes of 2015. I vow to throw my boys higher & farther each year.” #LifeGoals
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BAF0-jXyXOK/?taken-by=bodhielfman

    • Jimmy3

      Is that Jenna’s sister in the background?

      • salin

        The disco ball?

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        IDK but it looks like that could be Lou with her arm around Miscavige, there in the middle, wearing party hats.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Took me a minute to see what you were saying, but once I did, I was rolling.

        • Jimmy3

          Hah!

    • SucculentDuck

      any word on how many horses she vowed to blow?

    • salin

      Ah, tossing one of the two that she and he (aka the parents) call “the little f*ckers’.

      Caption: “Look! The Little F*cker is flying!”

    • beauty for ashes

      Who wants to throw their kid the farthest? Bodhi does!

    • Hey, watch out for the ceiling fan!

    • Rasha

      CAROUSEL!!!! Funny, he doesn’t look 30…..

  • Sandy

    TOT. Am watching this horrible show on Lifetime. It’s about kid “geniuses”. Parents are awful. Child abuse.

    • Sandy

      It is like a game show. Do not know what I am supposed to think about this horror.

      • beauty for ashes

        Yuck, I just watched a minute. 🙁

        • Sandy

          Kids crying. Parents demanding. I thought it might be fun – like “Who Wants To Be A Millionaire”. Nothing like that at all. Am so upset for those little kids.

          • beauty for ashes

            It’s too much responsibility. Too much pressure. Children are like products to some of those parents. I’d be terrified and worried for my child if a producer asked for me, not annoyed. I had to change the channel seeing that girl crying under the table.

            • Sandy

              I know, right?

            • Rasha

              Unfortunately, that girl crying under the table is actually the product. I know I’m sounding cynical, but truly, it is about ratings. “Oh, my god, you have to tune to this channel and watch this! It’s awful!” …cue commercials.

      • Rasha

        Like any other reality/cooking/talent show, it’s about the drama and not about the actual topic depicted in the title. People don’t watch to see who made the best crépes, they watch to see the reaction of the ones who get kicked/voted/chosen off the show, and see them walk, dejected, down Washout Lane, then enjoy the angry shouting of the parents who have just seen their dreams crushed as well. Oh! Look! That new funny commercial for that one thing!

    • Jimmy3

      There’s a kids baking competition on Food Network. They go out their way to make it fair and fun for the kids. Its really sappy.

      But after each round, the loser is executed on the spot.

      • Jimmy3

        Err, sorry, they are just eliminated from the competition and sent home. I don’t know why I thought they were executed.

        • stillgrace2

          Common misconception, Jimmy.

      • Sandy

        I know. I have watched them make kids cry on tv.

        Oh – how fun.

        • Jimmy3

          They lose some tears. They win their life.

          • beauty for ashes

            kinda like leaving scientology?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Hunger Games…for realz. Loser goes into the bread dough.

  • Missionary Kid

    OT. Sad news. Pat Harrington, Jr., who’s best known as the blowhard super on One Day at a Time, has died. He had a long career in show business. The gag that he pulled on the Jack Paar show, posing as an illegal Italian immigrant, Guido Panzini, who had survived the sinking of the Andrea Doria, had hundreds of people calling the INS.

    The man had a masters degree in political philosophy from Fordam, and was the son of an actor who had appeared in vaudeville and the Broadway stage. He was 86.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That show just had their 40th anniversary too.

      • jazzlover

        And Mackenzie Phillips is still alive!

        • pat k

          Imagine that! Loved schnieders tool belt swagger.

    • Rasha

      …Schneider…. ;(

    • Chee Chalker

      Oh no……I loved Schneider!

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Ok people I have gone and done it. Set up a little blog on the the tax exemption stuff. I am not a techie but I managed to get it mostly working except the categories don’t show up, ah well. I am going to collect info including any letters to or from IRS, Congress or elected officials. Comments welcome! At least, it is a start…

    https://scientologytaxexempt.wordpress.com

    • beauty for ashes

      Good for you! :):):)

    • Beth

      Great job FMFH. I’ve bookmarked it for reference. Was touched to read your family scientology story – I did not know. Geez 🙁

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        That’s why I am here, really…

  • What’s up everyone? I’m having some beers and about to watch Person of Interest on Netflix.

    • Rasha

      Hey, Dodo!! I’m still catching up after vacation. (Rasha gots LOTS of sleep to catch up on!) You kick back and enjoy!

      • Sleep tight!

        • Rasha

          ^_^ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz………

    • Sookie Sookie

      Here’s what’s up with me: I took a break from Sci-watching to volunteer for my presidential pick. But U.S. politics has gotten a little too weird.

      (You know things are wacky when you go back to Scientology to get away from the crazy.)

      It’s good to see you, Dodo.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Nice to see you back. Too bad about the volunteering.

        • Sookie Sookie

          Thanks, L Wrong. I just need a bit of a break. I’ll go back to it and be ready for another sabbatical right around HowdyCon time!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Can you imagine the live blogging from Howdycon? We will melt their internet service.

      • salin

        I was a political/news observer (since mid 80s) before a Co$ watcher. I agree – it has veered into the surreal.

        • jazzlover
          • Scientist

            Thank you for returning me to my youth!

            • jazzlover

              I’m sorry 😉

            • Scientist

              It’s not a bad thing! I loved them, many years ago

            • jazzlover

              We all move on, but for me, they are especially painful to listen to now. When America got r ‘n r back from the Brits, they foinked it up in oh so many ways.

        • Sookie Sookie

          Amen!

      • It’s good to see you too, Sookie. Screw politics.

      • Jimmy3

        America thanks you for all the hard work you’ve been doing on behalf of The Donald. The rest of the political volunteers are losers.

        • Return to your room, Jimmy.

          • Jimmy3

            Fine. But I’m taking your beers with me.

            • Can I see your room?

            • Jimmy3

              I asked my dog and he says no. It’s his room now. I sleep in the hallway.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              That’s sounds like a bad line on a date.

            • Jimmy3

              If I had recognized that he was hitting on me, I’d have come up with a better response.

            • I just want my beer back.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              At this point, that might be as difficult as asking Scientology for money back.

            • jazzlover

              Sorta like the “naked man” trick in How I Met Your Mother. LOL

        • Sookie Sookie

          Yes, you have me pegged… It’s the floofy, floofy hair that made me a believer. *gack*

    • what’sup

      My ears were burning. Hey man, been awhile.

      • Jimmy3

        Wu Tang Clam ain’t nothin to shuck wit. What’s up what’sup

        • what’sup

          Not a lot bruh! Enjoying my last few days in this heatwave. 104℉ yesterday, not much better today.
          Pool and Beer is what’s up I guess. How ’bout you?

          • Jimmy3

            It was 30F yesterday and I was excited about how warm it was compared to the day before. So, fuck you, 🙂

            • what’sup

              That’s inhumane.

            • Jimmy3

              I’d actually rather be cold at 30 than melt at 104. That sounds horrible. I don’t sweat well.

            • what’sup

              I would tend to agree. This why 93% of Australians live within 50 kilometers of the coast.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Exactly! You can always add another layer, but once you’re naked there’s nowhere else to go…

      • Good to see you bro, in 2016.

        • what’sup

          Back at ya Dodo. How’s Jim Cathsjffvyidis tonight? I like that show

          • His name is Jasiel Cazzerolles. It’s great.

            • what’sup

              I thought I left som Z’s out.

  • Not safe for work image.

    • Sookie Sookie

      For those worried about refreshing: it looks like it’s worth a job-hunt.

      • daytoncapri

        Good to see you Sookie. 🙂

    • Scientist

      OMG, my stomach is growling

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Homemade? Looks delicious!

      • I am just craving good pizza. Got it from google images.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Self torture? That’s sick, Dodo. I have a friend who could help out with that.

        • Scientist

          If that pizza isn’t in your belly, then I’m not jealous anymore

  • TexasBroad

    Just on now since early this morning (12 hrs ago) and I haven’t read any comments since, but am posting this completely OT thing because I am so unsettled….
    I own a business in a reasonably nice, quiet strip center. The neighbor business has been there longer than we have and while the owner is by no means a real friend, he has been a business friend. I drink coffee with him, buy water or tea from him daily, I know his daughter just graduated from college, I appreciated his referral to a good mechanic, when I need change he makes it and when he runs out of toilet paper, I supply it. He is a nice guy and part of my and my employees’ daily life.
    This afternoon, at least 10 marked and unmarked police cars descended in the parking lot, blocking every exit and his business..10-15 policemen converged, guns drawn, and arrested him. When asked, they informed us they were with a sex crime tactical force and said “if we are here, it is a significant event.” In other words, it isn’t a single victim crime.
    It may be crazy to meet up with people you meet from the internet, but really, you might as well. The creepiest crazy person might have made you coffee the day before.
    Thanks for letting me vent.
    Pfffftttt… Blech!

    • Jimmy3

      Goddamn. Do you know what was happening?

      • TexasBroad

        Not yet. Police wouldn’t tell me and I haven’t seen anything on the news so far.

        • Jimmy3

          Ah. I’m sorry about your proximity to this slimeball. They don’t roll up 10 deep if they don’t have something solid on him.

          • TexasBroad

            They were pretty pleased to have him.

        • aquaclara

          Ask any millennial active on social media. They’ll have the whole story before the paper.

    • what’sup

      That’s much better than Person of Interest.

    • jazzlover

      OUCH. But don’t be fooled — some of ’em on the internet suck as well. One guy disappeared from a forum I used to frequent. Seemed like a nice guy, and everybody liked him. Three months later, somebody googled him (yes, we knew his real name) and he had just been indicted for running a violent kiddie porn website. He was about to be placed in Federal lockup for 27 concurrent life sentences. More along the lines of your story, about 5 years ago, a local guy who owned a Carvel franchise in my neck of the woods, was arrested for running a kiddie porn website from an office in the back of his ice cream shop. Turns out he was drooling over potential victims as they were feeding his business in the front.

      • Someone I work with has a friend who’s husband got busted for child porn. It’s sad and sickening.

        • jazzlover

          Absolutely, and it usually happens in the most unexpected places and with the most unexpected people. The Carvel dude seemed like a normal guy. You just never know.

      • pat k

        Just watched “Call me lucky ” on Netflix…on topic and awesome. Initial funding provided by Robin Williams. Great watch.

    • Glad you are safe.

      • TexasBroad

        Thank you. I was never in danger (although the drawn guns had my customers a bit on edge…and because open carry just started here, a little nervous about that as well). Just want to know what is going on and upset about the whole thing. I didn’t get a damn thing done today.

        • I hear you.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You’ve been through quite a shock. Take care. Pamper yourself another day.

          • TexasBroad

            Wondering if he will get out and open his business. Awkward. I’m not the type to just wave and ignore the elephant in the parking lot…I will have to call “WTF” if I see him. Thanks for your kind words.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      It’s scary how much of this goes on in the world.

    • aquaclara

      And it doesn’t matter where you live, this can happen anywhere.

      Vent away. Sorry about your friend.

    • Qbird

      sum bitch.

    • Missionary Kid

      For my 50th high school reunion, we had both winter and summer classes together. (Yes, we used to have people graduate in February as well as June). Someone put out a list of people that they were having problems locating. One person, who I knew had an unusual name, so I Googled it. At first, I saw that he was in PR, and had been awarded for various community activities, then, I saw something about a court case.

      He had been fostering some boys, and also molesting them. He’s in jail for the rest of his life. You never know.

      By the way, if anyone out there has WiFi, make sure that you have it encrypted. Pedophiles and scammers can log on to your WiFi by just parking outside your house or living next door. When the police come looking for the criminal, they’ll stop at your place first because the crime was committed using your open WiFi.

      That idiot in Chicago who threatened Miscavige at various times, used the unencrypted WiFi of a lady who lived next to a bar that he frequented to send some of the threats. The police went to her house first.

      • Qbird

        Does “encrypted” mean ‘protected with a passcode’, Mish?

        • Missionary Kid

          Yes, it does. The WiFi transmissions between your computer and the router are then encrypted so they can’t be read by someone else.

          • Qbird

            okay good. I just got a new router, an AirPort Extreme Base Station & I have a password, but thought maybe there was more to it in order to keep it safe. Tks, Kid.

            • Missionary Kid

              It’s my understanding that when you set up the password, you’re also utilizing encryption. Do you remember that there were questions about using WEP or WPA? those are types of encryption that you set up when you started to use the router.

            • Qbird

              Yes there was stuff about WEP or WPA but I don’t even know what that is. I got this fancy-schmancy Apple router to be compatible with all my other Apple products and especially for this new iMac Desktop computer. Also it contains an external hard drive which is automatically updated every time I log on… and I think that’s terrific and hopefully worth the price. They (Apple) tell me if something, anything, goes wrong with the computer itself that all I have to do is bring in the router and everything will been saved. I did read in the literature/ instruction manual somewhere that there was an automatic encryption system going on inside the router but I’m technologically challenged… so, really in truth, I am just trusting in the product rather than understanding it.

            • Missionary Kid

              Sounds interesting to have a backup on your router. Leave it to Apple to come up with something new, and charge a lot for it. I’m sure that things were done pretty simply. That is a real advantage with Apple.

    • Don’t forget John Wayne Gacy was respected in his community! You never know about people, unfortunately!! I can’t imagine how disturbing this was to you! ((hugs))

      • TexasBroad

        Thank you Miss Tia. It will interesting to see if he is out on bail and opening his business today.

        • It would NOT surprise me, if it was that many law enforcement officers there, that they seize his assets—including his store. They will probably want to go over the store records, financial, store computers, etc. plus interview employees. IF he gets out on bail, he’d probably be under house arrest. I’m assuming these things on the info you gave and reading about other cases like that.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Sociopaths, criminals, and other assorted peeps are often the life the of the party, or serial charmers.

  • Scientist

    ..

  • little bit of tiny tommy snark from Enty

    • Jimmy3

      He is short, but he’s big enough to make fun of himself. And that’s a photo of a selfie photo in progress. From the selfie angle, it looks like he’d actually be front and center in the pic.

  • Juan Negro

    It’s 2016. To see these kids, so involved with this creepy crook (LRH) bullshit religious scam is beyond disturbing.

  • Juan Negro

    Gabe Manro and the Scientology Choir was there…? Nevermind.

  • ReallyMGM

    Totally OT:
    Happy, Happy, Happy! Our team won trivia tonight!
    (Did I mention we won the city championship in December?)

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT topic: Sceintology’s impact on global advancement in education 2015
    Sector: Education in the EU.

    Hello! Anybody home… It can’t be ignored. Sceintology ‘is’ salvaging this planet. Sceintology, in 2015 alone, salvaged the freakin’ educational system in all the Czech Republic, for Meepthorpe’s sake.

    “Rampant illiteracy in the Czech Republic was turned completely around by L. Ron Hubbard’s acclaimed Study Technology.”

    — Dave Micsavage, the Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, New Year’s Eve.

    • Czech Republic sends fuck off to RTC.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      I believe there was a comment in the last couple of days that was made on Mike Rinder’s blog. I think the person was from the Czech Republic and it essentially said this lyentologies claim was bogus…don’t have time to find the comment right now

      • MaxSpaceman

        i wasn’t being serious, Dchoice 🙂

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          LOL, sorry! but I had earlier in the day read the entire PR statement by the cult and after having stomached that, when I caught a glimpse of the quote of the ‘ecclesiastical’ liar you gave in your post, apparently I couldn’t focus on the rest of your apropos joking.

          Here is the comment on Mike’s Jan 4th post, to which I referred.

          “Anna Ryklová says

          January 5, 2016 at 10:00 pm

          Inside view – nothing new is being implemented into our school
          system. No new methods. A new style of writing was implemented a couple
          of years ago. Nothing philosophical. Ironically, there are just more
          liberal voices to give children more freedom in terms of what and when
          they learn and in terms of their motivation to learn at young age. Still
          no signs of ideology or any new texts. There are not even mentions of
          scientology as a religion or a way of life in our schools. Most people
          just know them as “those lunatics that Cruise and Travolta support”. I
          highly doubt the private primary schools teach anything that has to do
          with scientology, not even mentioning the public majority. That guy just
          uses the fact that very few people know where we are located or what
          even is our little state. I bet many people think we are some illiterate
          morons from Balcan. Illiteracy….pfff. This guy can piss me off even
          when he’s not standing on my doorstep yet. Come here little Davey, we
          will show you how deeply atheistic and problematic with discipline and
          authorities our little nation is. Anyways, I’ll look into their current
          status around here more.”

          AND when I located it a few minutes ago, I see this following comment was also made:

          “Jenni S says

          January 6, 2016 at 11:50 am

          Regarding rampant illiteracy in the Czech Republic turned around
          by Study Tech, in 2011 their literacy rate was 99%. They were hardly
          plagued by rampant illiteracy.”

          cheers

          dchoice

  • Peaceful Friday.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    This late at night, and I finally had the time to actually listen to the scintillating word salad that is the centerpiece of today’s posting. I was struck by this statement near the beginning of the talk:”While I know he Valley Ideal Org has been many years in the making, the truth is, you are becoming an Ideal org at exactly the right time.”

    Since this was recorded well over a year ago, and the Valley is no closer to becoming an Ideal Org now than it was then… Is this exactly the wrong time to become an Ideal Org???

    • otherles

      The press organs of the Soviet Union had more credibility that the Church of Scientology.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        One of the earlier truisms I learned here at the Bunker is that the Church of Scientology is not a credible source of information about the Church of Scientology.

    • Sunny Sands

      Thanks for all your great pictures. They were linked down thread, and really added to the impact of this article.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Your reports from Clearwater were quite an inspiration. Photos give dimension to discussions on the internet. It is, after all, a visual medium.

  • Fink Jonas

    Scientology applauds anything that is FREE, what a bunch of blod suckers.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    In that top photo, it looks like she’s modeled her hairstyle on Benjamin Franklin’s do. Is that supposed to re-stimulate thoughts of $100 bills or something? And she should lose that ridiculous uniform because she looks like a fool wearing it.

  • Lighthouse

    Someone has an enormous imagination. It’s as though they create this fabulous scene and then it grows and grows and I’m sure he, the creator of the fantasy that we’ve just heard, actually believes it. It becomes a fabulous story which grips everyone. I know it did me once.

    Scn is a “religion” of madness. It creates mad and delusional people. The hype, if you believe it and we all did, is so brilliant, of course you want to give money to help everything along its way. Also so that your name is in the lights, course! It’s a big part of the whole thing. Scn thrives on euphoria and it creates Egos and feeds them constantly.

    There were parts of her speech that mindboggled me with its audacity. I can’t remember now what specifically and I don’t want to listen to all the garbage again. I wonder what Google’s take would be on it if they got to know about it. Or the Chinese government.

    The Chinese sanctions and control of the media sound exactly the same as those of scn.

    I thought she was taking quite a risk mentioning YouTube especially because when you search for something on YouTube all the bad scn news shows up. I wondered about that. Was it a dare because its known that the scios won’t do it?

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Did OSA Steal my phone? probably not but a man can’t help but be suspicious given who he’s dealing with! (F5)

    • Sunny Sands

      Sorry about your phone. If the package was insured, maybe you can get your money back.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        The company I ordered it from has filed a claim. So we’ll see.

  • Mark Foster

    Food for thought: what people believe directly affects their behaviors. Ditto groups and cultures.
    The horrific highlights of human history are often driven by some group’s belief in its superiority or
    its “chosen-by-God” status… as it rapes, slaughters, and enslaves some other group
    Yes, I do care about what you believe…AND what you do.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Also, how we treat others affects our beliefs. If you look at early explorers of the new world they had much higher attitude of the natives then later conquers. So in-order to make their own crimes okay and sleep at night they had to justify their mistreatment of the natives by coming up with reasons why it was okay or even good. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psychology-writers/201208/why-bad-guys-think-theyre-good-guys

    • daytoncapri

      Ok Mark, but I choke on the idea of lumping religions together with Scientology as if they represent the same mentality. I see a real difference.

      Oppressors and oppressed, yes that is a common feature if human history, often cloaking itself with religious trappings, using familiar terms. Hitler came up with his own Christology..a pseudoreligion.., that fact is not mentioned much these days. Hubbard came up with his own too, the cult leader for our times, a familiar pattern.

      • Mark Foster

        Which pope in the mid-to-late 1400´s divided up Africa between Spain and Portugal and blessed the enslavement of the heathens? How many more examples are there of Muslims and Christians and Hindus(among many other religions), over thousands of years, slaughtering, raping, and enslaving others , driven by their beliefs in the “others´” basic evil or lack of humanity? It´s about BELIEF-of whatever kind-justifying and driving the marginalizing and dehumanizing of others.

        • daytoncapri

          Mark … Yes, and Dorothy Stang lost her life for the indigenous people of Brazil. Surely Mark, you are not saying that there have been no good, courageous religious people that are on the right side of history?

          • Mark Foster

            I am dealing with the word ” belief” . Check out my comments again…and, yes, I am familiar with Dorothy´s story. Her beliefs inspired her to do something for the greater good. I am simply making a point about the relationship between beliefs held and the behaviors they generate…or inhibit…Hence, my concern with both creed and deed…

            • daytoncapri

              OK…that works for me. Thought precedes action. I hope mankind will choose good ones, there is plenty evidence of the bad.

        • Mockingbird

          I try to criticize Scientology, not religion. But any ideas used to separate people into in and out groups then dehumanize the out group is evil, no matter who does it or under what label.

          Lifton described this incredibly well, Eric Hoffer also did in True Believer.

          In the Sociopath Next Door Martha Stout takes on this as does the book Age Of Propaganda. And On Killing takes on the military’s problem of getting people to easily kill each other.

          I recall the idea that four conditions are considered to be sought to get men to kill in war.

          First the enemy needs to be dehumanized. Then the direction to kill needs to be from a recognized authority, then a representative from the authority needs to be very close to the men, usually among them. Then the direction to kill should be clear and seen as accepted by society as moral.

          I would prefer an entirely different approach. Honestly tell your people they are equal to others, never above nor below.

          Understand all people have no superiority or right to conquest or aggression. In that climate willingness to use force outside of self defense or defense of others is difficult to justify. I prefer an approach where violent aggression is condemned against anybody. Below is a link on how in theory genocide gets put in in stages with certain progressive changes.

          http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/tenstagesofgenocide.html

    • Mockingbird

      Very good point with a lot of ideas and research in cognitive dissonance theory and social psychology. Our ideas, behavior and emotions are strongly linked.

      My entire series on cognitive dissonance theory takes this up.
      http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/10/scientology-building-prison-of-mind.html?m=0

  • Muiron

    I found it ironic and rather funny that Google gives $cientology all of this free advertising because “so many people” click through their ads to the Scientology.org site. Scientology.org’s site traffic per Alexa is ranked 82,021 in the world and 45,028 in the United States. TonyOrtega.org is ranked better at 70,504 in the world and 21,255 is the United States. MikeRindersBlog.org is ranked 45,294 just behind $cientology. Maybe Tony should get free advertising from Google too!

  • TsPad

    I went to Delphi Oregon with Brandy. Weird.

  • Qbird

    Jan, 11, 2016

    deleted upon request.

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Thank you for taking the time to make your Police Chief aware of the FDFW/Co$ links, Qbird.

    • Juicer77

      Excellent approach. Perfectly done. I hope he comes to realize there are much better programs out there to rely on, ones that don’t lead down a very dark path of slavery.

      • Qbird

        Oh Juicer, I was kind of scared, not sure why. My call went to voicemail & I left him a message, my name, where I live & that I would like, only if he had the time, to talk about the FDFW. He called me back, so nice of him. We talked weather, then fishing, then his town & mine, then drug education. He brought up the COS connection, I was relieved. He really does not know anything about Scn. His focus is on educating youngin’s on the dangers of illicit drugs.

        • Juicer77

          He sounds like a really decent person and will probably do more research about it since you talked to him.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • Interesting. She has drilled the art of public speaking to encourage the obligatory clap. Emphasizing the numerical numbers of the “stats” as well as speaking louder or closer to the mic at the end of a sentence when she wants people to clap. It’s definitely hypnotic and “training” the masses, into how to react.