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‘Going Clear’ subject Tom DeVocht reveals new info about Tom Cruise and Scientology’s leader

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We have another screenshot from Alex Gibney’s documentary Going Clear, which airs on Sunday, March 29 at 8pm. Pictured here is one of the eight former Scientologists interviewed for the movie, former Sea Org executive Tom DeVocht. We recently gave you a little background on Tom and explained how he’s been dealing with an increase in private investigator harassment as the movie’s airing nears.

And now, for the first time, he’s giving us new information about what he saw up close as one of Scientology leader David Miscavige’s most trusted lieutenants at a time when one of Miscavige’s top priorities was actor Tom Cruise. We’ll let DeVocht explain.

 
In Alex Gibney’s documentary Going Clear, I was glad to see how much Tom Cruise is put on the spot about his behavior in the church. I’ve seen others portray Tom as a kind of “victim” of Scientology. It simply isn’t true.

Many people are victims of Scientology. They’ve been bullied into submission. They’ve had their family and friends ripped away from them through Scientology’s policy of “disconnection.” Others have been ruined financially, and some have had their minds so warped they no longer know who they really are.

Someone like my sister, for example. And my ex-wife, Jenny Linson (daughter of Fight Club producer Art Linson). Both women have been turned into mindless automatons. And let’s not forget the young children who have been raised in the cult. When they finally escape into the outside world, they typically have no formal education, and nowhere to go or the means to get there.

No, Tom Cruise doesn’t fit into any of those categories, except for maybe not knowing who he is. But it’s plain that his involvement in the Scientology cult has done him nothing but harm.

So why is Tom Cruise involved with Scientology at all?

I worked closely with David Miscavige for years. I became for a while his “buddy,” and, unwittingly, one of his henchmen. I did his dirty work, spending many millions of dollars in parishioner donations on a roughly 40,000-square-foot building at the International Base near Hemet, California.

It was “Building 50,” or the headquarters of the Religious Technology Center, the controlling entity of Scientology, which Miscavige runs as its Chairman of the Board. (Hence, the name he’s called by lowly parishioners, “COB.”)

 
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Almost everything in this over-the-top building was custom made, from hand-woven rugs and one-of-a-kind pieces of furniture, to bulletproof windows and a customized stainless steel desk. Miscavige was adamant that this building would be a showpiece — even though it sits on a piece of desert property in the middle of nowhere and is never visited by anyone except members of the inner sanctum of Scientology leadership.

But what does this have to do with Tom Cruise? My answer: Everything.

Between 2001 and 2004, Miscavige repeatedly told me that the RTC building “has to be good enough for Tom Cruise.” Miscavige insisted that Tom would be hanging out with him there, and might even have his own office.

Miscavige and I once had a long discussion about the photographs he wanted to hang in the hallways of “COB’s wing.” Originally, he’d planned to put up pictures of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. But maybe, he wondered, Cruise would be more impressed if the hallways were decorated with photos of Miscavige himself. But even he realized how that might be too much, and he hadn’t resolved the question when I left the Sea Org in 2005. But I was told that ultimately underwater photographs taken by Miscavige on his diving expeditions were put on the walls — a sure way to impress Cruise.

It became very clear to me that Miscavige was starstruck, and he was obsessed with Tom Cruise. He constantly tried to keep up with Tom, coming up with new “Top Gun”-like uniforms, motorcycles, expensive clothing, wristwatches, and on and on.

 
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I actually believed Miscavige liked the guy until I was invited to the premiere of Vanilla Sky in December 2001. It was a reunion of sorts. As Marty Rathbun explains in the movie Going Clear, Tom had fallen away from Scientology for much of the 1990s because of his relationship with Nicole Kidman, and Tom was entirely cut off from Miscavige while he was filming Eyes Wide Shut. But then, to drive a wedge between Tom and Nicole and bring Cruise back into the fold, Miscavige had Rathbun audit Cruise for several years until he was a gung-ho member again. (Tom announced that he’d filed for divorce from Nicole in February 2001.)

At the Vanilla Sky premiere, Cruise’s co-star, Penelope Cruz, was by his side, and Tom was showing off his new SUV to Miscavige — it was customized and very nice.

When he pulled away, Miscavige let his petty jealousy show. He said that Penelope “had to go,” saying that she had looked at him “funny” and was “too Catholic.” (Even though it was clear Miscavige really didn’t like her, she continued to date Tom until 2004.) Miscavige also said that Tom was a “punk” because his SUV wasn’t as nice as Dave’s. “Mine is better, much better,” Miscavige said.

But Miscavige also acknowledged how valuable Tom was to Scientology. In late 2004, Miscavige and I were in London for the annual gala of the International Association of Scientologists. Normally, Miscavige would hand out a few “Freedom Medals” to church members who had done extra work. But this time, to recognize Cruise’s return to the fold, he intended to give him a special, larger medal that he was calling the “Freedom Medal of Valor.”

In Miscavige’s mind, those of us in International Management were all looking for opportunities to betray him and take the church down. He needed someone he could count on.

He explained his strategy to me this way. “Cruise isn’t smart enough to run the church like I can, but he has the presence and could be my Inspector General, and people would respect and listen to him. Because Tom is a very good actor, he could carry out my exact commands and directions like a puppet, and that would be OK with me. He wouldn’t even have to think. Then we’d be getting somewhere.”

He looked at me sternly and insisted, “I’m damned serious about this and I think he’ll do it.”

 
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I don’t know if Miscavige ever pitched his idea to Tom about becoming his inspector general (a position Marty Rathbun had left earlier that year). But Tom did, in a way, replace us all. Rathbun had left. I wasn’t needed any more. Mike Rinder left a couple of years later.

In the meantime, word went out that everyone had to refer to Tom as Mr. Cruise, or better yet, “Sir.” He was never to be addressed by his first name.

And all of this was happening while Tom was going through his own PR disaster. Becoming the ambassador of Scientology turned out to backfire on him badly, as he made an ass of himself on the Today Show with Matt Lauer and jumped on Oprah Winfrey’s couch.

But he was only following the script that Miscavige had written for him. They were brothers in arms, two “big beings” saving the world and taking no prisoners.

A year or two after I walked away, I heard from a dear friend who had also left Scientology. Greg managed Scientology’s hotels in Clearwater, Florida. One day, he found himself riding an elevator with Miscavige and Cruise. Greg asked a simple question: “How are you today, Tom?”

Greg explained this was the beginning of the end of him and he soon after was expelled. He believes to this day his “crime” was addressing Tom Cruise by his first name in front of Miscavige.

Don’t look to Tom Cruise as some sort of victim. He is, in fact, the deputy Chairman of the Board of the Church of Scientology, and it seems to me that he sort of likes it.

— Tom DeVocht

 
Thank you for that, Tom. We just want to add that in Gibney’s film, DeVocht explains in more detail how Miscavige made fun of Cruise behind his back, even sharing with DeVocht and others intimate details from the notes Rathbun had taken during his auditing sessions with Cruise, notes that contained graphic details of the actor’s sex life. As we reported earlier, Miscavige also had Cruise spied on for years.

If Miscavige was said to repeatedly betray the trust of his friend, we learned that Cruise’s relationship to Miscavige was surprisingly worshipful. As John Brousseau told us, Cruise worshiped Miscavige like a god. And Brousseau was in a position to know — he had not only customized Cruise’s homes and automobiles, he’d also been Miscavige’s brother-in-law. If you haven’t seen our two-part series on Brousseau and his amazing experiences in Scientology please do: Part 1, Part 2.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Here are some additional looks at the model for the L. Ron Hubbard Hall, which will go in next to the Super Power Building…

 
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Scientology is trying to glom onto the UN’s International Day of Happiness (March 20) by handing out The Way to Happiness booklets. Here they are in Denmark, and look how happy!

 
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Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 21, 2015 at 07:00

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  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Question: If Tom Cruise is the only one who can help at a road accident, what should I do if Tom Cruise is caught in a train wreck?

    Answer: Nothing. If you don’t give him a transfusion, he can just Restart The Day.

  • Jgg2012

    I think that one or two other celebrities should team up with some eccentric billionaire and create a “religion”, and then apply for income tax exemption (such as Scientology has) so the billionaire can avoid taxes. If that happened, the IRS might reconsider the ill-advised 1993 agreement.

  • MCurie

    NPR article about US vs UK freedom of speech differences using “Going Clear” as an example:
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

  • nottrue
  • ze moo

    Free HBO on Time Warner and DirectTV on April 10-13. Going Clear will be on April 11. I so happy…..

    • Juicer77

      Nice!

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Tom DeVocht’s revelations about Miscavige’s lifestyle and bromance with Cruise once again begs the question, why has the IRS not stripped the church of its tax exempt status, or at least put it in receivership? The answer is disheartening: the IRS doesn’t give a damn that Miscavige lives like royalty, and that his bromance with Cruise has meant the expenditure of millions of dollars on toys and luxuries. For years, Senator Grassley has tried to investigate the “prosperity preachers” who live lavish lives and do not try to hide it. His investigation has gone nowhere, and seems to be dead in the water. It’s unlikely, therefore, that either congress or the IRS is going to do anything about Miscavige’s misuse of tax exempt dollars just because of his self inurement and his bromance expenditures. “Going Clear,” however, make break this stalemate.

    The parishoners of prosperity churches may have their wallets abused, but, as far as I know, they are not ordered to disconnect, or fair gamed, or forced to have abortions, or sent to RPF prisons. Grassley and others may want them stopped, but the power of tens of millions of followers pretty much protects the preachers. Miscavige has no such protection. He has a relative handful of loyal parishoners, a lot of lawyers, and a huge piggy bank. He has a virtual army of ex-members furious at his abuse and increasingly ready to step up to testify against him and expose him. Unlike the prosperity preachers who seem to thrive on public appearances, Miscavige hasn’t made a public appearance outside of the church since 1992. Ironically, Miscavige is the weakest leak among the billionaire preachers because he has so few followers and is so easily exposed as a slimey character. After watching “Going Clear,” millions of people are going to despise him, and, despite his lies to the contrary, Miscavige does not have millions of parishoners who will defend him. His decades long refusal to allow church members to have their own voice will end up biting him in the ass. If Senator Grassley is smart he will recognize that investigating an increasingly hated church leader for tax abuse is the key to opening a debate about the tax abuses of the other billionaire preachers. If the FBI is smart it will realize that Miscavige is only the little man behind the curtain, and that if his access to money is frozen, there is nothing to impede shutting down his human trafficking, his use of child labor his and fraudulent use of tax exempt dollars.

  • ShoopZ

    (refresh)

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      Heheheh! Naughty ShoopZ (and very good :) )

    • NOLAGirl

      Bahahahaha!!!

    • Observer

      I … I can’t even … *bursts into tears*

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        The MonkeyBar is open (as long as you want a bloody mary :) )

        • Draco

          Bloody Mary is good :)

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            Here you are, Draco :) (ETA: Ooops, F5)

            • Draco

              Thanks, MonkeyNuts. Oooh… you made it a double!

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              No point pussyfooting about, Monkey’s alcoholic beverages are designed for one thing only :) (it’s a triple with plenty of tobasco and just a dash of worcester, can’t have too much healthy tomato knocking about!)

            • Draco

              😀 Well that explains the buzz and the blurry screen!

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              That’s the normal response–Hooray! 100% success :)

            • i-Betty

              You are my forever barperson!

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Always happy to help–order anytime :)

            • dagobarbz

              Can I get a Slappy Assie? One part rum, one part hot pepper vodka, three parts dwarf blood.
              Served in a novelty giant margarita glass. Comes with skewered dwarf on the side.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              I’ll do my best dagobarbz–there are some quite specialist ingredients there, could take a while :)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Made me one yesterday. Highly recommend.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Thanks THDNE (you got the organic health version, slightly more tomato :) )

        • Verve

          <–
          And you didn't invite me? :(

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            All are invited to the MonkeyBar–place your order anytime :)

            • Verve

              2 banana & mango daiquiris, one for each of us. 😀

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Done! Cheers :) *chink*

    • Sid

      Best shoop,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ever!

    • https://www.pinterest.com/natlificent/ Nat-leficent!

      Finally.

    • Draco

      “Davy…you had me at Hello”

      • Sid

        It’s all about where you put the comma.

        Tom, “Okay, I’ll be your inspector, general”.

        • Billy Bob

          Every inch.
          Gah!

          • Draco

            Made yourself gag Billy Bob?

            • Billy Bob

              Yeah.
              My bad. No case on post.

            • dagobarbz

              Good. Now turn your head and cough, please.

          • Donna Cline Sargent

            haha feel my finger LOL

      • ShoopZ

        “Davy…you had me at YSCOHB.”

      • i-Betty

        Hur hur 😛

    • i-Betty

      There are not enough superlatives to fully honour this masterpiece.

      • ShoopZ

        You’re too kind 😀

    • L. C. Spencer

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Magnificent!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Need.Warning.

    • YNDOT

      Came out of self imposed lurkdom to say I actually did LOL on this one….in fact, I almost jumped on my couch with glee! Well done 47x!

      • i-Betty

        Well, hello! It’s nice to meet you :)

        • YNDOT

          Hello, i-Betty, I loved your reports from Ireland!

          • i-Betty

            Thanks!

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        A very good reason to come out of lurkdom and welcome!

    • Zana

      Yuk.

      • ShoopZ

        “Yuk.” Scientolophobia or homophobia?

        • Zana

          Their relationship. I’m from the theater. Many of my best friends are gay and I love them. It’s The duplicity in relationship of DM with TC. And I should not have reacted. I know it’s just a schoop. This lets me know I’m too caught up in the circus. :-)

    • funnybroad

      This. Is. Platinum.

    • Sydjazz

      You win tonight . Thats gold

    • Pepper

      OMG!

  • Draco

    OT: A comment downthread led me down the Mormon rabbit hole and I’ve been watching a video on you tube. So I scan some of the comments, and one of them says: “Mormonism was the Scientology of its time”. Heh…

    It was interesting to watch though, as so many of the tricks and lies are exactly the same, just dressed up in different words. One of the things that also struck me, is the control most of these woman have over their emotions while talking about child abuse, being raped by their fathers, by their brothers. Almost like a scientologist with their “TRs in”. But boy, when they allow the emotions through you can see all the raw hurt. Very moving story.

    In case anyone is interested, this is the link – “Lifting the veil of polygamy” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT6k9KATfRQ

    • Spackle Motion

      There are several first-hand accounts of escaping polygamy by Carolyn Jessop and Brent Jeffs that are good reads. I’ve branched out my reading material from Scientology to other cults such as Jonestown and FLDS. It’s amazing how these stories are so similar.

      • Draco

        I know. I have also read a lot and watched lots of videos on other cults. Cults that I recognized as cults when I was a scilon, and never, ever saw the similarities. Now it jumps out at me.

  • BabySmurfette

    OT Personal Note: just found out I will be out of town for work on the 29th. Which equates to me, alone, in a hotel room, with room service, and HBO. Perfect!

    • Juicer77

      Email them and check that the hotel room FOR SURE offers HBO. Just a tip.

      • BabySmurfette

        I did before I made the reservation! Great minds… :)

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Or go to a local party – where will you be traveling?

    • Ella Raitch

      Show off!

  • Beth

    Holy s@$&. Inspector General? Deputy Chairman of the Board? I sooooooo love that the clip of Cruise on stage with his shiny new medal saluting the giant portrait of Hubbard is in the film. It does NOT get freakier than that. The 2 part Brousseau piece is riveting. I am officially addicted to the bunker.

    Question: I know Tom Cruise is short and Miscavige looks inches shorter even than that.What is his actual height? Anyone know? And how can he beat up on people so much? It seems he would have trouble even reaching up high enough to punch a full sized man in the face. I’m serious.

    • Sid

      If anyone dared punch back they would ‘lose their eternity’, and probably get charged with assault with everyone else in the room backing Miscavige that you were the first to strike.

      • Beth

        wow.

    • Draco

      He is 4’13” according to a man who was his tailor once.
      He can beat up bigger men because he has destroyed them psychologically and spiritually. If just one fought back, it might turn the tide. But none have so far. Plus he travels with a posse.

      • Ben Franklin

        Doesn’t Shaquille O’Neal have shoes taller than Miscavige?

        • Draco

          Lady Gaga too!

    • Billy Bob

      Day-bud Miss Cabbage
      Petty Little Bitch is stuck
      Four feet and Thirteen

    • Dancing Cranberry

      He has security guards with him at all times, from what I understand. Maybe they hold people down? (or lift him up to eye level)? Heh heh

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Maybe Tom lent him one of his movie ‘booster–boxes’ :)

        • Beth

          Ha!!!! or a wee golden stepladder?

          • Draco

            And sometimes he uses a table to launch himself at a seated victim. Plus, once you punch someone hard enough in the gut (eye level for him) they usually double over and the face comes within reach.

    • Richard

      Remember, when you’re being beaten up by COB, you’re being beaten up by none other than the head of the Church of Scientology in person. I mean, it doesn’t get bigger than that, to be struck by the most important person on the planet, These are, quite obviously, moments that are completely your own fault and that you ‘pulled it in’ yourself and deserved to be hit in the face.
      But seriously, any person who is standing in front of David Miscavige must be, for sure, cowered and round-shouldered at best, so even a big guy in front of David Miscavige would be at least 8 inches shorter than normal.

      • Beth

        I don’t have the words…….

        • MaxSpaceman

          the only words each continually hold onto:

          Scientology- it’s *always* worse than you think.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        In the movie I think Tom DeVocht said it was like being beaten up by the Pope. What are you supposed to do, fight back?

    • Draco

      Welcome Beth. Yeah, we are all addicted. But this is a nice little community, so sit back and enjoy. :)

      • Beth

        Thank you kindly Draco

    • Robert Eckert

      Tony, as is his custom, verified Miscavige’s height (5’1″ or as we like to put it, 4’13”) with a primary source (his tailor).

      http://tonyortega.org/2014/04/03/we-asked-david-miscaviges-tailor-for-his-exact-height-and-heres-what-he-told-us/

    • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

      …. it would look something like this https://youtu.be/6zIYvBY2DzY

    • aegerprimo

      Tony O did an excellent piece on that last year, and backed it up with DOX.

      We asked David Miscavige’s tailor for his exact height — and here’s what he told us!
      http://tonyortega.org/2014/04/03/we-asked-david-miscaviges-tailor-for-his-exact-height-and-heres-what-he-told-us/

  • Mischa

    Is everyone of the consensus that Katie left Tom due to Suri coming of age by attending cult schools?

    • Ben Franklin

      We will never know until Katie or Tom speaks about it. Anything else is just speculation in my opinion.

      • Dale A.

        Yes, and I think it was reported that they had legally agreed to abstain from badmouthing each other’s religion. So it that’s true, whatever Katie has to say about Scientology, we won’t be hearing it.

        • Draco

          Interesting tidbit. I wonder how many divorcing couple even think about putting something about their religions in there!

          • Chee Chalker

            In divorces where parents are of different faiths, it is standard to indicate which faith (if any) the children are to be raised. If they are to be exposed to both faiths while with the respective parents, that will be in the agreement as well as an agreement not to disparage the faith of the other parent. Not really that uncommon

          • Dale A.

            Well you know, I’m just repeating something I read online. Who knows.

            My personal hunch has been that Katie had an air tight prenup, written by her father, which stipulated that if they should divorce, she would have full custody of Suri. He probably assumed that this B List actress would not dream of divorcing the Big Being, and signed it. There wouldn’t have been much wiggle room after she filed.

        • Chee Chalker

          And in Scientology, it’s a fine line between ‘bad-mouthing’ and the truth

          • L. C. Spencer

            An invisible line, one could say.

    • Draco

      Nice name :)
      Don’t think there is a consensus, some feel that way. Personally, I think she woke up and didn’t like the fact that their lives were being run by scn. Possible the novelty of being married to her childhood idol wore off. Whatever it was, I am glad she got out. She looks much happier again and seems to be doing well.

      • Ben Franklin

        The daily jumping on the couch may have become too much

        • Draco

          Yeah – it becomes a bit of a drag after a while.

    • Liam

      Didn’t Cruise admit that was the case? I thought he went on record somewhere saying that.

      • Donna Cline Sargent

        yes when he was suing a magazine , that came out in the depo. he then dropped the law suit.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Considering the extraordinary measures Katie took to extricate herself from this marriage, I think it’s a pretty fair assumption that Tom wasn’t the type of spouse/husband who bothered or tolerated to take into consideration views that didn’t fall in line with what he already decided.

    • L. C. Spencer

      The only thing we actually know is that at least part of the reason Katie left, and sought sole custody, was to protect Suri from Scientology. We know this much because Tom said so in court in 2013:

      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-cruise-admits-scientology-played-654649

      relevant snippet posted below:

      Tom Cruise says Scientology played a role in his divorce from Katie Holmes

      The admission came in a Sept. 9 oral deposition filed recently as part of Cruise’s ongoing defamation suit against Bauer Media over its In Touch cover story, “Abandoned by Daddy.” In the deposition, Cruise admits that Holmes said one of the reasons she left him was to protect their daughter, Suri, from Scientology. Cruise first lashes out when lawyers for Bauer ask him if he believes it’s false that Holmes divorced him “in part to protect Suri from Scientology.”

      “Listen, I find that question offensive,” he said. “I find it — those statements offensive. And like with any relationship, there are many different levels to it. You know, I — I find it very offensive. There is no need to protect my daughter from my religion.”

      But the attorney pushes further, asking, “And Ms. Holmes has never indicated in any way that was one of the reasons she left you? … To protect Suri from Scientology?”

      “Did she say that? That was one of the assertions, yes,” he says, before noting that neither Suri nor Holmes are practicing Scientology now. [end snippet]

      Also see Tony’s own general story about what awaited Suri if she stayed in Scientology:

      http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/06/katie_holmes_scientology_sec_checking_suri_tom_cruise.php

      Relevant snippets not posted because the whole thing is relevant, and chilling.

  • Room 101

    In the vein of Tom Cruise being a victim of Scientology, I second DeVocht’s sentiments that he most certainly is not. I was best friends with his niece, Jamie Lesavoy, a decade ago. She made out with a boy on his property in LA that was caught by cameras. When word got to him, he felt it was out PR for her as a Scientologist and so he kicked her out of the family. She had to basically go work for Benetta Slaughter(CEO of Applied Scholastics in Spanish Lakes St Louis at the time – but now is an anti Scientologist in hiding) for a year and then she moved to Florida and went to Clearwater Academy where I was a tutor for the Duggan’s adopted kids. Her mom was his assistant at the time and she cut off all ties with her 14 year old daughter at the request of TC. Jamie had to do hundreds of hours of amends and do conditions starting from Treaimeson. It took her about 3 years. 3 years of no holidays with her mother. 3 years of crying to me because her CSW was disapproved by her uncle – Tom Cruise. She finally got it all done and now is a staff member in LA and has been for years now, which is sad.

    I still have a Tiffany’s bracelet that Tom Cruise got in an awards show gift basket that he gave to Jamie and she in turn gave to me.

    I have 3 more of her close friends from that time period who were in the know that are out of Scientology now and can corroborate my story.

    Side note: The President’s Office – the division of the Church responsible for kissing the ass of celebrities and giving them special treatment – put me on the “President’s List” at the time. It basically exculpated me from petty ethics handling and BS. That lasted until I joined staff at Tampa Org and I joined the rank and file brainwashed peons.

    • Draco

      The love-bombing tends to slip once you sign any staff contract.

      • Mark Foster

        And the face-ripping begins.

        • Draco

          Along with the discovery of no toilet paper when you REALLY need it, and of course, the joy of rice and beans.

    • Deadpool

      Where was her father in all of this?

      • Room 101

        He’s been anti Scientology her whole life so she has no relationship with him

        • Deadpool

          I was asking because I heard his sisters were married to high profile Scientologists. It seemed very weird his sister would comply that easily not to see her daughter just because her bro told her so. Makes me wonder does his family ever say no to him? Like Jamie’s grandmother or anyone in his family. So bizarre.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I should frame this and trot it out anytime someone still thinks Tom is mr nice guy.

      • Room 101

        I encourage you to spread it far and wide

    • Viktoria

      What an a**hole! I always thought that he simply is indoctrinated, but not cruel. Gloves are off. Hope he get what’s goming to him.

      • Deadpool

        Isn’t that part of the indoctrinate? when you are indoctrinated in to Scientology you do awful things. Many Ex Scientologist did things they regretted it. Scientology in itself is awful.

        • Viktoria

          Of course you are right. Clearly I do not, as a never-in, fully understand the working dynamics within the CoS. I just felt a bit outraged. Slinking away now to do some more study on the subject at hand…

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Cruise kicks his niece out of the family for making out? Miscavige defames Amy Scobee for her pre-marriage relationship with her husband? Yet Cruise married Katie Holmes when his daughter was seven months old, and Miscavige is photographed snuggling with his communicator? Their hypocrisy is sickening.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Do as I say… ?

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Room 101 – What despicable behavior – to his own niece. Goddamn him and the cult he hangs out with.

    • Ella Raitch

      Thanks Room 101 – have heard the part about Tom ‘putting ethics in’ on his niece, but not in such great detail.

      Are you saying that Bennetta Slaughter is now an anti-Scientologist?

      https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/bennetta-slaughter/

      • Room 101

        She’s definitely anti Church of Scientology – I’m guessing she still follows LRH.

        • Anonymous

          This is a rather remarkable piece of information that I have not heard elsewhere.

          If true, she HAS to be on DM’s list of carefully watched people…what she knows and could reveal is most likely quite substantial.

          Can you provide anymore details about Bennetta become anti-church?

          • Room 101

            I do know she’s quite literally hiding from the Church because of your exact point.

          • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

            That was my initial reaction. But, actually, I think it’s more important to find out how the medical examiner came to change her decision. If anyone in, or an agent of, the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology even looked at Joan Wood funny, that’s obstruction of justice there and then (which the first amendment is not covering).

          • Room 101

            To add a few further details, her husband and her two daughters are also disaffected. I can’t give you hard evidence, but the closest I can give you or anyone to proof is that I invite you to try to call the Church out on her being disaffected or search far and wide for a response to my allegations and you will most likely be rebutted with silence; which we all know, in the case of the CoS, is an admission of truth.

            • Anonymous

              I do believe you…it just surprised me as it was brand new information. Thanks for the additional thoughts.

              This is the sort of string that needs to be pulled.

        • Ella Raitch

          Well that’s interesting – just increased the odds of more of the real Lisa McPherson story coming out.

    • Anonymous

      Bennetta Slaughter is now anti-Scientology?

      The same Bennetta Slaughter that used to be Lisa McPherson’s boss and was so nasty to all that were trying to get at the truth of that tragedy?

  • Peggy oh!

    I think it was during the post on what the future may be if DM dies/is removed/etc that a picture came in to my head of Tom (like the ending scene of that Spielberg spaceship movie where Richard Dreyfus gets on the spaceship and leaves earth) that Tom would renounce secular life and step up and devote his life totally to run Scientology. I wasn’t posting here yet, but also felt I didn’t know enough and my feeling was probably stupid.

    But then this post…

    I have also had the feeling that Dear Leader has been likely phoning it in from offshore somewhere for a while. Some months ago I was watching Tory’s 10 part 10th anniversary escape story and when she talked about DM and Pat Broeker going to Vegas and spending large amounts LRons money packet on their way to “deliver” it to him, I just knew, he’s been squirreling away money for a long time. And with those commenters who proposed that Miscavige would set up a bag man successor for the collapse, today’s post becomes even more eerie!

    I know the only real thing you can predict with scientology is massive foot bullets but this has been stuck in my head.

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      And that, no matter how bad you think it is, it’s always worse!

  • madame duran

    Re: DeVocht’s friend “Greg” and his elevator encounter with Cruise, Miscavige
    The story left me curious about how TOM reacted to his question. Did he answer at all (a brief yet polite reply of “Fine, thanks”)? Did he remain silent? Did he just scowl at Greg’s gaffe? Did his response seem friendly, wooden or totally diva-like (“I can’t be bothered giving you the time of day”)?

    I also wonder if Cruise KNOWS that he’s only to be addressed as “Mr. Cruise” or “Sir” by everyone inside Scientology (except for David Miscavige). Is he the sort of down-to-earth person that would tell others, “Hey, enough with the formalities. You can just call me Tom”? Does he have any respect for Sea Org members at all or does he expect them to always defer to him? I guess I’m trying to figure out how much of Miscavige’s valence Cruise has adopted and if any trace of Cruise’s past personality, childhood upbringing or Catholic values ever shows through. I’m aware of Cruise’s public image of a “nice guy” but how much of that really carries over into his interactions with “regular” Scientologists and staff?

    The impression I get is that Tom views Miscavige as both friend and father-figure; a fulfillment of the ideal relationship he never had with his own biological father. Like any other impressionable, idolizing young person, he desires to please Miscavige as well as model himself after him. I’d imagine that Miscavige’s sway is near total (I hesitate to say “complete” to leave some leeway for hope, any personal doubts about Scientology and some strain of humanity. However, on the surface, it does appear complete). Tom wouldn’t want to believe that Miscavige is a horrible person because that would upset the “ideal man” fantasy he’s created. He likely regards him as equally “successful”. During the onstage part of his IAS Freedom Medal award ceremony, I looked at the way he approached Miscavige and what I saw was unquestioning love/respect/admiration/devotion coming from Tom to his Dear Leader. He was sincere. Miscavige reciprocated Tom’s initiations (the salute, the embrace, the handshake) but I didn’t see the intensity as being mutual. I think DM appreciated being in close proximity to a big Hollywood star (for bragging rights) but was a bit overwhelmed by an effusive Tom. It looked like he was tolerating the moment, hoping it would quickly end. What more can be said? Cruise is delusional and Miscavige is a grand manipulator. Somehow, they deserve to become mutual liabilities for each other. Tom’s career suffers as a result of his blind loyalty to DM; DM suffers increasing humiliation from his association with Scientology’s dim-witted celebrities.

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      Both ‘big beings’–oh the irony :)

      • Robert Eckert

        They Stand Tall

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          On the boxes behind the podium :)

          • MaxSpaceman

            standing on boxes, Dauntless. Defiant. Resolute.

        • Draco

          Davy didn’t even stand tall among the 13 year old messenger girls back in the day. ;P

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      “Is he the sort of down-to-earth person that would tell others, “Hey, enough with the formalities. You can just call me Tom”? Does he have any respect for Sea Org members at all or does he expect them to always defer to him?”

      I understand there’s a delicate and inconvenient secondary issue of finger-pointing an auditor who didn’t spot the SP who blew, but the fact that he denies ever knowing Marc Headley at all pretty much answers that question.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        if this story is true, it speaks volumes. hmm, kind of important don’t you think, one would remember who they audit for the very first time tom.. NOT to mention, the other times, since it was NOT a 1 time thing, and if headley is to be believed the 1st meeting was quite long and involved more and other interaction besides the actual auditing… sounds like t.c. had selective amnesia, regardless of how many people he has met around the world over the years….

    • Allie

      Miscavige hardly appears as a father-figure to Cruise. He’s only a few years older than Tom and DM has no children. DM seems more like his biological father–abusive & cold and Tom was happy to leave that life behind him. So it’s puzzling why Tom would worship Miscavige to the extent that he does. Both live extravagant lifestyles, both like cars, motorcycles, racing, etc. Both suck at being married. Both have huge egos. Neither seem to have good male friends (except each other). A very puzzling relationship.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        that’s what i just posted.. a father figure whose only 2 years older and whose shorter? your the worlds’ biggest movie star after only being in the business for a few years, your handsome, you have a beautiful wife (his 1st wife) you have the world at your feet and you STILL need a father figure/best friend when your in your mid 20’s and have everything? really? strange though because cruise DID have friends, male and female. emilio estevez was his “best man” for that 1st wedding. cruise and miscavige though do have things in common, both are short, born were born into catholicism, both had tough childhoods, both were not the smartest tools in the shed (cruise barely finished high school, miscavige never went to high school) both became super powerful and wealthy very fast and both became huge figures, one a huge movie star, the other the leader of a “cough, cough, religion”…both are pathologically stubborn, self absorbed, narcissistic, competitive.

      • madame duran

        I agree that, in reality, DM is just like Tom’s abusive bio dad. However, I would argue that Tom doesn’t see him in that light. To our knowledge, Miscavige hasn’t physically assaulted Cruise nor verbally abused him (at least to his face). Compared to the treatment he got from his own father, Cruise’s experience with Miscavige is all sun and smiles even though we know that the relationship from Miscavige’s perspective is superficial and ego-driven. Has Tom ever witnessed Miscavige be violently abusive towards others? I don’t think so but I have heard of anecdotes where Miscavige puts down other Scientologists (staff) as “downstat”, “underachievers” or some such and Tom naturally sided with DM and expressed his approval for an ethics handling for the “degraded beings”.
        In summary, Cruise doesn’t feel mistreated by Miscavige so the idea of DM being abusive “just like dad” is foreign to him. The truth of DM’s extensive violations is probably withheld from him (Cruise’s knowledge limited to a few mild complaints which he would see as justifiable under the given circumstance).

        • Allie

          Thanks for clarifying, MD. I didn’t mean to imply that DM was abusive to Tom because we haven’t heard any stories to confirm this. I guess I just meant it was hard for me to see DM as a father figure because he’s only a few yrs older than Tom. Sorry that I wasn’t more clear in my comments.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      great post, although i think 1) he wanted a father figure whose only 2 years older then him and shorter? 2) he needed a father figure at 25 when he was already the biggest movie star in the world when he made top gun in 86 and had the world at his feet? really? and he STILL needs a father figure/best friend now that he’s about to 53 in july? really?

      • madame duran

        There’s more to being a father figure than just age. It’s about the role or position that one occupies within a relationship. It’s about being someone to “look up to” (if not literally, then aspiringly) and being seen as wiser, stronger, more intelligent, more successful, etc. It is very possible for a man to be 52 years old, rich, famous and STILL be riddled with insecurity or immaturity. Tom Cruise is one such person. I don’t think I need to tell you that the effects of unresolved traumas/issues from childhood can continue to plague people right into adulthood. I’ve always maintained the view that Cruise is emotionally stunted (not to mention egotistical as well). It is my opinion that Cruise is needy. He needs to validate himself through his work. He needs to compete. He needs to be in control at all times. He needs to be “top dog” and the centre of attention. There is a void there…a lack of identity. Cruise has latched on to Scientology to fill it. Miscavige–the living epitome of Scientology–is the one that Cruise is drawn to. I would say that Cruise’s relationship to Miscavige is co-dependent.
        Whether Miscavige is presently more “friend” than “father figure” to Tom is up for debate. I think it’s both and there’s fluctuation between the two. I don’t mind if anyone disagrees with my armchair psychology rantings (admittedly, it’s all speculation). What can be said is there’s something about that Cruise-Miscavige relationship that ain’t all right.

        • Tracy Schmitz

          THIS is a very good post and well thought out and yes, i agree with you on most of the matters you wrote up.. Personally, however, i just don’t get it. IF i was in tom cruise’s position in the world with EVERYTHING he has, i would be “embarassed beyond measure” that i NEEDED scientology and the world KNEW i needed it. the idea that of all the people around the globe has has met over decades, all the people he has worked with and knows and has been around him and it’s someone like miscavige that is his “father figure/best bud” is quite scary. for him to be approaching 53 and STILL needing ANYONE as a ‘father figure/best friend” is sad. I do agree on your “diagnosis’ of t.c. immature, needy,emotionally stunted, insecure and add in pathological stubbornness, self absorption, ego, chip on his shoulder. i almost feel like someone should yell at him to his face and say “your fricking tom cruise!! your 52 years old, wake up and grow up!

          i understand the traumas of youth and if they are unresolved (if that is the case i should be in a bunch of cults!) but “geez, what are you or anyone going to do? is t.c. or anyone going to go around when they are 80 and say “i had a tough childhood, so that is why i have still have issues?! never mind that for the past 60 years i had everything in the world that by NOW! should have waaaaay over made up for any few years of childhood trauma! i mean really! talk about those born in absolute poverty and abuse in some ghetto when they were a child and ALWAYS will live in such destitution for their whole lives and THEN we’ll talk about “issues” remaining throughout their lives…

          i’ve never had a great relationship with my father even though he’s still alive. he was emotional abusive and still can be and we are just very different people. i yearned for him to be the father i “need and wish he could be” but i know he can’t be and so it is what it is…. i’m 50 years old and a woman. a regular unknown “nobody” in this world. HOWEVER, the idea that at my age and station in the world i would NEED a father figure/best friend who i would practically worship and beyond respect is well quite laughable to me.. now, take this into account and it’s tom cruise? THEE tom cruise who IS this way is unfathomable and bordering on pathetic to me..

          i mean the guy, cruise even emasculates himself for miscavige (i.e. the saluting of him, the over the top hugging, shaking hands, thank you, thank you, thank you, praising him on stage as if he was literally GOD himself on stage at that medal of valor ceremony).. i have no doubt and have never had any doubt that year after year, decade after decade WHENEVER miscavige has been around cruise or even in the alone privacy of his compound whenever miscavige thinks about cruise, he is inside LITERALLY laughing so hard, tears coming to his eyes, ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AND STUNNED AND UNBELIEVING THAT THEE tom cruise, mr. global movie star is how he is and worships him!… as i’ve said before, NO OTHER global famous person male or female would be the way cruise is to miscavige or ANY person, religious figure or not, world leader, etcetera, any organization, group, etcetera. so yes, something “ain’t all right”..

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Wow, no wonder it is up to 500,000 $

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-derXaY1YY

  • madame duran

    The last photo (with the stainless steel chairs in the wood panelled hallway): the interior design looks very dated–1980s cool but extravagantly overdone. Could resemble the secret lair of a James Bond villain (probably faces the same fate too…being blown up, sinking into the ocean, etc).

    • L. C. Spencer

      I’m personally hoping he’ll be eaten by his own sharks with laser beams attached to their heads.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        My money’s on a ‘fall’ into the piranha pool out the back.

        • L. C. Spencer

          If I found out that he actually had one, I would not be stunned.

      • Peggy oh!

        It does look like the floor has been designed to open up…

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I love that dream.

    • Peggy oh!

      This aspect is infused in everything they do. I always want to find a word for it, but no word suffices. Gaudy tacky wannabe nothing encapsulates, it’s also a kind of scio zeitgeist. It’s in their graphic design, their clothes, their food presentation…just everything. It needs a made up word…

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Hubbardificationized?

        • Peggy oh!

          Oh I got it. Psychotique

          • Orglodyte

            Bombastique?

            • Peggy oh!

              Forehead Cystique?

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Pusique Cystique

            • Peggy oh!

              Oh building 50 could be known as the Cystique Chapel!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Why not just “Building 50”. It has it’s connotations built in.

            • Peggy oh!

              You’re right. I was just having so much fun with Forehead Cystique.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Like Cystique.

      • Robert Eckert

        I’ve seen (somewhere) “retro-futuristic” used for that kind of style which was supposed to be forward-looking so long ago that it is hopelessly dated now.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Prison chic’?

      • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

        Separate from everything else about Scientology, I have a bit of a soft spot for their aesthetic, and how overblown and overdesigned it all is — every edge beveled and shadowed, dramatic curves where straight lines would suffice, every empty space filled with a rococo curl, every surface gilded or marble-tiled or wood-paneled. It’s sort of a parallel to nouveau riche — a kind of “nouveau culte”.

        • Peggy oh!

          I know! As a designer I’m both appalled and enthralled. Repulsed, yet drawn in… Hmm…

          Maybe their design aesthetic is actually functioning very well to represent them truthfully!

          • Orglodyte

            Well, as a public Scientologist I did eventually go baroque.

          • splog

            Like the shower scene in Psycho? You know what’s going to happen, you know it can’t be good and you.just.can’t.look.away…

        • Orglodyte

          And Shermanspeak too, with its own rococo flourishes. It all hangs together in a remarkably integrated way, doesn’t it?

        • Allie

          Nouveau culte is perfect!

      • Observer

        Marcabian Modern.

        • Chee Chalker

          Mid-century Marcabian

        • L. C. Spencer

          Like this, but with fedoras and propellers. (F5)

        • kemist

          Miscavesque.

      • Billy Bob

        The golden age of science fiction. The year 2010 as imagined in 1950.

        The golden age of tech. Gold base.

        Neo-Gold. Gold-neo. Retro-Gold. Gold-Retro.

        .

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea79npseZhk

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          Have some Tom Cruise Purple with that gold!

          Medical high jinks leave Tom Cruise camp fuming April 4, 2008, Rush & Molloy, New York Daily News

          • Billy Bob

            “The kind that makes you hallucinate”.

      • Beth

        Gleezy

        (glam + cheesy)

        • Peggy oh!

          “Gleezy”

          And rhymes with sleazy!

      • splog

        Maximalism? The art of using many words when one or two would suffice…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      If you click on Tony’s “Building 50” link, there’s more pictures of other rooms.

  • anoni81b4u

    No text needed

  • Tony DePhillips

    Love it!! Why doesn’t the cob just come out already??

  • Lurkness

    As THDNE has warned, there is no predicting what cornered rats will do. Tom DeVocht was “fairgamed” yesterday and had his tire stabbed with a knife.
    Be aware and careful out there. Refresh

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      Wow, that is actually nearly impressive (if it wasn’t so weird and creepy)–it’s really difficult to push a knife through a pressurised tyre. (ETA: or so I’ve been informed!)

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        No kidding. We just had some big old nails in our tire last time. I’d forgotten about that. I also forgot about the funeral and mortuary promo we got in the mailbox and email last time until I read the AlterNet story laying out what happened to journalists like Sappell. At the time I thought it was not part of the fair gaming going on. Jeesh.

        I don’t like thinking about the kind of knife it took to do this damage on Tom’s tire. I’d forgotten all about that. I hope he has neighbors looking out and lots of video cams and cameras around – to get evidence.

        • Sid

          Our tires were done through the sidewalls. Much easier I guess.

          • Lurkness

            Side wall punctures are also not ever repairable. Have to replace.

            • Sid

              Cost me 4 new tires. The police never caught anyone. It was some time ago. I had just reported on a prominent (at the time) Scientologist of committing fraud and next morning bye bye tires.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              I’d love to know what kind of justification process the perpetrators of these crimes go through to think that this could possibly be acceptable.

            • Sid

              Sociopaths don’t need to justify.

            • Lurkness

              LRH Scripture permits it….see Fair Game.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              It’s very difficult for me translating what I’ve read of $ource’$ $ick $acred $cripture$, into seeing and hearing of its actual effect on people–it fills me with a longing to see corporate $cientology cease to exist, and to do my utmost to facilitate its demise.

          • L. C. Spencer

            The way we kept finding ours, the mechanic said they probably just let all the air out and then slashed them once they were empty so they couldn’t be reinflated. No contradiction between evil and laziness, I guess.

            • Sid

              It’s a petty a cruel way they have.

            • Allie

              Sick bastards!

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          The activities of the chult never cease to disgust and shock me, I’m so glad you’re stronger than them, THDNE, and speak out about their sick and degraded behaviour–and to let us know it’s always worse than we (never–ins) think. Here, have a bloody mary, no, here’s two! (F5)

          • Sidney18511

            My favorite!! Are they made with clamato?

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              That can be arranged–I’ll hook some tomatoes up to an e–meter and start auditing them, until all their Fruity Thetans are blown, will that be ok Sydney? (it could take some time, though, they’ve only just been cleared!) The clams are already OT, they can be added later :)

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Apologies for the delay… right, one Clamato bloody mary :)

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thanks. One will do. I’m a cheap date these days!

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Ah well–want not, waste not, one for Monkey! Cheers! *clink*

        • Lurkness

          Yes, THIS. Fire up the cameras please for your own safety and to catch these bastards. Get a camera system if you don’t have one, well worth the investment and peace of mind.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Oh, I already have mine. I was thinking of Tom. But he probably has his too now that I think of it. I mean, he built the Hole!

            • Lurkness

              I know you do. Best systems also let you watch your place via the internet. It is great when traveling (or at work) to pull up feed on iPhone or desktop. Plus like it that you can get alerts when there is motion and when doors or windows opened. Modern technology is marvelous.

    • L. C. Spencer

      YIKES. This happened to my mom after she escaped with us kids. And for months, the phone calls, creepy messages, petty vandalism, people we never saw, letting us know we were being kept an eye on. We eventually changed our names.

      Thanks for being outspoken, Tom, even with the incredible price you’ve paid.

      • Lurkness

        Had not realized you were in. Glad you and the family got out and so sorry for the awful experience. Again, what legitimate Church/Religion would do such things?! Color me angry.

        • L. C. Spencer

          Oops, I didn’t realize I was implying we were Scilons — Co$ isn’t the only cult that does this to escaping members. They’re just by faaaaaaarrr the best at it. And with more snazzy videos.

          • Sid

            The Prison of Belief is not limited to Scientology alone.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Amen brother. But isn’t it strange (or maybe not strange) how all prisons of belief look so much the same from the inside.

            • Sid

              I think the mental mechanism is pretty much the same or at least very similar.

      • Allie

        Sorry for such a dreadful experience for your family. It’s so wearing to be harrassed and knowing people are stalking you and trying to make you crazy. Changing names was smart and pretty drastic. So glad you escaped from all that trauma. Hope life is now good for you.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      What do they think they accomplish with this kind of vandalism? It won’t stop HBO from airing “Going Clear,” it won’t prevent tens of millions of people from watching it and thinking Scientology is a dangerous cult that should not be tax exempt, and it won’t shut Tom DeVocht up. If Miscavige ordered this, he certainly isn’t concerned about looking silly and childish.

      • Lurkness

        It is all about trying to instill fear and intimidation. Bullies will bully. Frankly though, they also know it wears on people too and at some point you get tired of the aggravation, inconvenience and expense. They hope people get the hint and just move on with their lives, as many have done.

        This is why those that continue to fight the cult and continue to speak up are truly HEROES. Thanks Tom DeVocht and ALL of you!

        P.S. Tom (if I can call you that), really sorry you had to go through more of this crap. Over frickin facebook likes and connections too, apparently. Really? Hang in there and THANK YOU for the additional information in the article today.

      • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

        “deliver an effective blow to the enemy of the group” which is part of the “amends” project of any victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology if they should fall out of flavour (which anyone can, for any reason).

        Chapter 5, “Closing Minds: How Scientology’s “Ethics Technology” is Used to Control Their Members” by Jefferson Hawkins

    • Captain MustSavage

      That’s criminal damage. Hope Tom reported that to the police. He needs to get an in car camera to capture video of people approaching his car. That’s what the Internet needs – more video of fair game in action.

    • Allie

      More silly-ass bully tactics from Co$. Do they not realize that this kind of scum-bag activity will be tweeted and face-booked and that tons of people will continue to see what douchebags Scientology really is? Sorry that it’s a big inconvenience to Tom D. Bless him for continuing to speak out!

  • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

    Just came up with a variant of an old American drinking song:

    99 members of SeaOrg on board
    99 members on board.
    You take one out to watch Going Clear,
    98 members of SeaOrg on board.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I’m sure Jenny, must have had some admiralble characteristics. Seems now type cast as the mad looking woman with smudged eye make up. It goes from wore to worse when she tries duelling ,TRS with Marty. Seriously, she looked like someone who had been locked in a box as her eyes try to adjust to natural light. Hard to see who the victim really is. Will her mind ever let herself escape one day?

    • Jo

      Todd, you mentioned a few weeks ago, you got a copy of going clear? Curious, have you posted review, maybe I missed it?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I waited and went fellow Bunkerites. We had a great deal of fun meeting for the first time and sharing a meal. It was impressive on the big screen for a documentary. Had to go back to work so i missed the last 2o mins. It was incredible!

        • Jo

          I’m happy you waited, but you know I never believed your mate had a copy. None of us are perfect, be kind Todd, we fight this cult together.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I had a discussion with Tony, and he didn’t want me disseminating it so I gave the flash drive back to my mate. It was very tough not to watch it believe you me. It took HBO a lot of Balls to make it. My mate gets all kinds of movie’s off some bit torrent. Two of them said,””For, Ellen degeneres” Do you live in a country you can’t get it?

            • Jo

              No Todd, I live in a town very close to the country. We have electricity, wifi and all kinds of modern shit. It has never been released on bit torrent. I have worked in the movie and game industry for over 15 years. I couldn’t care less if you watch pirate movies, everyone does it. I smell bullshit.

    • Peggy oh!

      I saw a glimpse of what I thought was her on a clip of the scientology wives bs on Anderson Cooper recently. I’m too lazy to go back and look it up to make sure the one I thought they said was Jenny is for sure Jenny- but I was shocked and kind of sick to my stomache to think that was the same woman we saw on the LAX videos. The change is scary and awful and in such a relatively short time.

      • Robert Eckert

        Yes, that was her.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Here’s ya’ go, Peggy Oh.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Like how the makeup artist softened her Tr’s, with some glasses. Talk about “If looks could Kill” !

        • Ben Franklin

          The younger Jenny

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Her jaw doesn’t look clinched in this photo. Very pretty..You know who else looked hreat when they got out was crazy

          • Ella Raitch

            Wow. I can understand why Shelly didn’t want this Jenny Linson ‘throwing her tits’ in DM’s face

        • Peggy oh!

          Oh dear god…

      • Ben Franklin

        There seems to be a pattern. Even Mike Rinder went through the change and looked very different

        • Allie

          Wow, he looks almost unrecognizable in the photo on the right. Very sunken face.

          • AnyOldName1

            I think that is when they hauled him out of The Hole (which does not exist) to deal with John Sweeney.

            • Allie

              You’re right, AON. He looked so gaunt and emaciated and broken down.
              But who could expect otherwise from being in the “hole”

      • Ella Raitch

        Nix. Posted below

  • Richard

    Actually, I can sympathize with David Miscavige with his idea that important people like Tom Cruise should be addressed as Mr. Cruise or that Miscavige himself should be called COB. I mean, nobody would think of going up to the Queen and saying “Hey, nice to meet you, Liz” or neither would anyone would dream of saying ” Give me a high five Jorgy” to the Pope if they happened to bump in to him in St. Peter’s Square.

    I wonder what our proprietor, Mr. Ortega, thinks about this.

    • anonsparrow

      Whether it’s the queen or Miscavige (or both at the same time, hehe), it’s all a pretense. If you’re going to pretend to be a religion, though, seems like humility is a given. If you’re a gov’t figure of any gov’t, seems that arrogance is the given.

      Just in case that was nebulous, to hell with Miscavige and Cruise and their titles and pretend status. :)

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Wow a celeb! Welcome anon sparrow, if this is you. If not I love your avi!

        • Mymy88

          Totally! I’ll go with.. yup, it’s really him.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Respect. Now he’s one that’s earned it.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Oh wow hi!!! Please stick around!

    • NOLAGirl

      I know you didn’t ask me but, that’s never stopped me from running my mouth. :)

      When you’re in an environment that requires decorum and respect, you should use it. Miscavige nor Cruise deserve any respect, so fuck them both.

      • Allie

        Wish I could upvote that eleventy-billion times.

        • pilatesgeek

          My daughter was watching some pre-teen show the other night, while I was reading, sitting next to her. I heard “plenty billion times” and cracked up!!! Are some Bunkerites writers for Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon?

          • Allie

            That’s so funny. I’ve never heard it before coming to the Bunker. I guess it’s a “scientology-ism” about the number of members they have. There are lots of talented folks in the Bunker so you never know who could be writers, artists, cartoonists, etc. Lots of humor and snark.

    • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

      I think it’s more about Miscavige’s reaction to informality that’s of concern — anyone else would laugh it off, or at most say firmly “I prefer to be addressed as (title)”, instead of immediately moving to get someone fired.

      • Jgg2012

        What if someone confused Cruise with Miscavige, or vice versa?

        • Allie

          Hell to pay for someone. I’m sure Miscavige would feel threatened and paranoid, even by his BFF.

      • Dale A.

        I think it has to do with the need to always come up with fake language. I’m surprised after “Sir” for the upper echelon, he didn’t insist that the worker bees be addressed as “wormsweat”. (Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy ” I am nothing but wormsweat.”)

      • Allie

        Agree. It’s certainly shows DM’s need to show everyone that he’s the boss and not to forget it.
        It would seem that a little casual informality such as using first names would go a long way to create a more pleasant and productive environment and better working relationships.
        But Scn is built on fear and retribution and punishment so all the formalities must remain in place.

    • Kim O’Brien

      oh Dick ..you are so funny

      • Richard

        Ha ha! The last time I was called Dick was about 35 years ago when I lived in Cremona, Italy, as a student!

        • Kim O’Brien

          i seriously doubt that was the last time . Just sayin .

          • Richard

            It’s true, but many people have been tempted over the years.

    • Ben Franklin

      No human being should ever consider themselves as special or better than other human beings. Personally, I respect humility. Great leaders do not care how one addresses them.

      • Jgg2012

        When Yogi Berra met the Pope, he said “hello, Pope”.

        • Ben Franklin

          Only ergo maniacs care about titles given to them.

    • Jgg2012

      I don’t think he minds being called Tony.

      • Rasha

        I like “Scoopy O”. If Tony prefers something else, I’m sure he’d say so. In any case, he’s a class act.

    • Kim O’Brien

      egos are for pussies

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      If TC expects particular, deferential address, then he shouldn’t pretend he’s a scientologist like everyone else.

    • Lurkness

      The “SIr” part is of course insulting to those who actually have to do the grunt work of the Sea Org and have actually given up so much in their misguided dedication to the Chult.

      • Allie

        This. It is constant reminder to the Sea Orgers of their lower status and it is certainly an ongoing stroke to the ego of those being called Sir. Ranking is important so consequently all the titles reflect their power status and they want to keep it that way. Even the dog is called Sir, I’ve heard.

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          The Diminutive Megalomaniac had special doggy coats made for his pets that had captain’s bars on them to ensure that his Sea bOrg drones had to call them sir!

          • Allie

            I know, that is so insane, it’s laughable. He’s such a douche-bag.

    • Kim O’Brien

      were you one of those people who saluted the dog ?

      • Richard

        No, I never had the honour to meet Mr. Miscavige. (sorry to all our four footed friends!)

      • Sid

        Best comeback.

      • Observer

        The dog is far more deserving of being saluted than Miscavige is.

    • Peggy oh!

      I think the difference is, is that if someone inadvertently breaks protocol with the Queen or Pope, even then the consequences wouldn’t be so harsh. Plus, everyone knows him as Tom. No one knows the Queen or Pope without their title coming first, so accidentally saying Tom is much more realistic and likely than someone mistakenly calling the Queen or Pope by too familiar of a name. Ffs the person should just be taken aside and told privately. Just the embarrassment would keep them from doing it again, but no, scientology always has to use a bazooka to shoot a fly.

      • Scream Nevermore

        When speaking to the Queen, you just call her Ma’am, nothing fancier than that.

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          And it’s supposed to sound like ‘spam’, not ‘smarm’ :)

        • Peggy oh!

          My brain combined your name and words and I read your comment as ‘when screaming at the Queen, you just call her Ma’am, nothing fancier than that!’ :)

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      The British people have rejected efforts to get rid of the Monarchy, and the Pope is chosen by the Cardinals. Who voted to make Miscavige the head of the church? What has Cruise done that justifies treating him like royalty. If you enjoy self appointed despots, you would enjoy living in North Korea.

    • Juicer77

      When he first joined everyone called him Tom. It was rather pretentious to change later.

      • Draco

        When I first joined the Sea Org, everyone was on first name terms. LRH was Ron and nobody was called sir. That rot set in in the early 80s when suddenly all “officers” were to be addressed as Mr or Sir.

    • L. C. Spencer

      I guarantee you that if anyone says to the Queen, “Nice to meet you, Liz,” she will not respond by punching them in the face and then sentencing them to years in prison.

      Also, the current Pope is at pains to be a “man of the street” and has actually high-fived the public. He cheerfully answers to “Jorge” and also does this:

      • Allie

        Good points, L.C. Both the Queen and the Pope try to portray the image of a leader “for the people”. The Demented Midget just portrays himself as “THE leader”–the big being, the ecclesiastical pope, the big Kahuna. And the little people are just there to give him $$$.

        • Billy Bob

          It will be as you say, Little Miss.

      • Jenny Daniels

        Just LOVE the pope!

        • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

          I am no fan of organized religion, but this Pope – I like too.

      • kemist

        There is a whole protocol when meeting the queen, but then she isn’t the head of an insignificant, money-grubbing, litigious cult.

        There is a canadian politician, former astronaut who made a mistake in that protocol and actually touched the queen without permission. A lot of people made a bit of a fuss about it, but somehow the queen took it with grace and good humour.

        It’s a bit of a contrast with the petty, self-important and self-appointed dictator of the CoS, don’t you think ?

        • Ella Raitch

          Australian PM Paul Keating also got into trouble for placing his hand in the small of her back

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      David Miscavige and Tom Cruise are neither Pope nor Queen. The fact that they think they are that important is proof they are narcissistic megalomaniacs.

    • Draco

      Nelson Mandela always called the queen “Elisabeth” when he spoke to her. I can even imagine him calling her Liz.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      why is tom cruise important though? he’s a huge movie star but what else? the only way i could see anyone addressing him as mr.cruise is if PERHAPS they were trying to get a autograph or photo with him or they were waiting on him at a restaurant. or a valet parking attendant, you know someone who is doing a customer service position and serving him and even then? i mean if you see the countless videos of him out in public signing autographs on youtube, all you hear is the constant “Tom, tom, tom”… no mr.cruise ever is spoken..

  • YNDOT

    I’ve been following the atrocities of Scientology since I read Jenna Hiil and Lawrence Wright’s books. I read Jenna Hills book first, which I am glad because it personified life inside the cult whereas Lawrence Wright’s book was so fact filled, I would have had a hard time understanding why people stayed. Jenna’s book was the perfect companion piece. I found the Bunker and have been entrenched ever since. Mr YNDOT has never understood my obsession on seeing Scientology end but humored me in my outage. Just yesterday, he finally saw the HBO trailer for Going Clear and said that he wishes he didn’t have to wait a week! Me, you, and millions of others, Mr! Does anyone think Jenna Hill will comment on the film? Maybe it is because she was the first book I read on the subject but I have always thought she was a great spokesperson against Scio and wished her well.

    • L. C. Spencer

      I bet she will. She made the rounds of the news and talk shows when her book came out. She was very good at it and they’re bound to remember her when they want another talking head once interviewing ex-members becomes the hot thing again, which is beginning to happen now.

      If you want a book that gives you lots of info but feels like a friendly read, I can’t recommend Bare Faced Messiah highly enough. It’s the highly praised complete bio of Hubbard and it’s a pageturner.

    • NOLAGirl

      L.C. is right add BFM to your reading list, also Blown For Good…a definite page-turner.

      • YNDOT

        I will add them both, thank you!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Good question. The media will know her from her year long book tour. Oh my, I hope so.

    • Allie

      Welcome YNDOT. Happy to hear that Mr. Y is excited about seeing the film. Hope you both enjoy it and will write up a review for the Bunker. Jenna’s book was the first one I read too and it was so appalling and heart-breaking to me that I started searching for more info about Co$. What a rabbit hole this has become. The abuses, the disconnection, the lies and evil, the trauma to children hit me in the core of my being. This is why I am here.

      • YNDOT

        That is exactly how it happened to me, as well. I read Jon Krakauer’s Under the Banner of Heaven on Mormonism and was shocked that was going on in the United States until I read the Scio books a couple years ago,which shocked me more. It is true, Scientology is worse than it appears.

        From reading the other reviews, I had a preconceived notion that I will love it but not necessarily learn anything new, since I lurk in the rabbit hole but yesterday’s post on Jason Beghe was all new information. I always wondered what made MR surface in 2009 and thought he was the vanguard of the movement. I had no idea it was Jason Beghe. I can’t wait for next week!

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    Great story Tom, thanks for telling it. It gives a perfect snapshot of Dave “Mean Girl” Miscavige – Obsessed with impressing his “celebrity friend” Cruise, spending millions in parishioner donations to “one-up” Cruise with a more impressive office building, a better car, a better motorcycle, stroking and pandering him publicly, while cutting him down behind his back with snarky, catty comments, and even publicly making fun of his confessions in front of other executives.

    I think Cruise will finally depart Scientology when he realizes how he has been played by his “good friend” Miscavige and how sick Miscavige really is. His handlers have probably been advising him for some time to please, please distance himself from Scientology. Maybe now is the time to do that.The problem is, Cruise’s own ego might prevent him from publicly admitting that he made a mistake.

    • Sid

      I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some of his handlers are Sea Org.

      • Allie

        Probably true. IIRC, there were Sea Ogre handlers around him when married to Katie and
        also JT had them around him for several yrs. after Jett’s death.

        • Sid

          True.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        not to mention household staff, family members and those who are not culties, are 24/7 butt kissers and those who work for him (i.e. his lawyers) who are CERTAINLY not going to raise the issue because they are not going to stop the money train from rolling in for them…funny, how i remember years ago, in a interview for the now defunct movie magazine PREMIERE how cruise was actually upset, disgusted by the mere suggestion he had “handlers of any kind” much less scientology ones! uh huh…

        • Sid

          I knew a few of them personally. He can deny all he wants.

    • ze moo

      TC has used his clam sister as his pr person in past years. After the ‘jumping the couch’ and the ‘we are the only ones who can help at a car accident’ {what about airplane accidents? Trains? falling down the stairs’} stuff, he seems to have been forced into either more professional pr people or perhaps a combination of clam and pros. His total lack of any pr presence for the clampire speaks loudly about his ‘confront’ and need to please the studios. The stories about Miscavage making fun of TC’s ‘confessions’ have been around for almost 5 years. Surely, he must have heard of those stories by now?

      • Allie

        TC has distanced himself before while married to Kidman so it is possible that he could do it again. He’s been silent for some time now and I wonder if his family or children ever mention anything to him. I would think that they have heard the stories and be embarrassed about it all. In addition to the above, he has been booed at the ballgame (how embarrassing) and laughed at when he made the “actors are more hard-working than soldiers” comment. Tom is certainly not the brightest bulb but how could anyone not secretly have doubts about your so-called BFF.
        And what is with Davy going on Cruise’s honeymoon with Katie? Who does that? That should have been a huge red flag for Katie. There’s probably alot we don’t know about this.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        no doubt! and no doubt per his lawyer bert fields upon hearing the stories of the “alleged” physical abuse of miscavige to everyone around him, quote “tom, has heard these stories, he simply doesn’t believe they are true”.. same thing here i bet! you would think though another part of him would be 1) know that others like all his auditors KNOW of his audit information and they have yet to tell the world, so that would surely mean they are good people? i mean if they were the ones who were telling these tales (and it was not miscavige as he probably believes) , then by now they would have spilled all the beans, and they haven’t! 2) the simple fact that more then a few DO KNOW the information and he would wise up and think “what the hell, why do so many people know my private files, THIS IS SO WRONG AND be outraged! then again, if there is NOTHING bad or weird or embarassing or illegal or negative, then perhaps he doesn’t care who knows and who knows what and how many know?…

    • Draco

      “The problem is, Cruise’s own ego might prevent him from publicly admitting that he made a mistake.” This is a big deal. I remember how mortified I felt when I realized how stupid I had been for all those years. I was all alone in my living room, and I was embarrassed. I can’t imagine how it would feel as a world famous person to admit that. What he doesn’t know, is that so many people would rally around him if he was big enough to admit that he had been an arsehole, and if apologized to those Sea Org staff that he took advantage of. Not sure if he has that kind of courage though. He might be too in love with his celebrity for that to ever happen.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        i’ve heard and read this argument before that to admit he had a HUGE mistake and a mistake he had run his life around and for for decades is “not in him” really? so it’s better to be a fool for life, then for a short span??!

    • Tracy Schmitz

      you forget the family is in it and most of his “handlers” and household staff are culties too.those who are NOT culties like his lawyers aren’t going to ruin the money gravy train that’s for sure! and for him to leave he would ALSO have to denounce the abuse and how the cult has been run, which of course means denoucing his friend that he praised for decades like he was “GOD” himself.. will this happen? sounds like a long shot…

  • Tony Ortega

    New photos added to the post

    • Peggy oh!

      That ball/orb thing in the courtyard looks familiar…

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Rover.jpg

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        But probably a lot less useful than Rover insofar as it will only smother you, and not subsequently bring you in for medical treatment with the assistance of two mini–rovers :)

  • Observer

    I look at that model of LRH Hall–may it never come to pass–and all I can think of is slave labor building that stupid table it’s on.

    • Sid

      That model and the table probably cost as much as a small house. A model Scientologist would have mortgaged that small house and donated to the new L Ron Hubbard Hall.

    • Juicer77

      And yet another bankrupt clam is applying for yet more loans and credit cards to pay for this monstrosity, while DM laughs.

    • NOLAGirl

      Damn that thing is ugly. Who designs this crap? This makes me want “bad taste police” :) Scientology would be on trial for years.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Did they save some money by buying the frame work from Warren Jeff’s? Looks similar to his main house minus the alien, glass globes!

  • Sid

    In the Way to Happiness photo the couple on the left are from Russia, and had recently moved to Denmark. Lidia and Sandor Miko.

  • richelieu jr

    Listen– I feel icky just even bringing this up, but it seems to me to be pretty clear and important:

    We can all talk about how DeVocht and others attest hat Miscavige laughed at confessions from Cruise’ files and intimite details about his sex life, and I for one find this to be totally credible.

    But you know who wouldn’t? Tom Cruise. And he’s the one who counts.

    What needs to be discussed are DETAILS, folks. Stuff that no one NOT exposed to those ‘top-secret, eyes-only files would know. And then, even if Dave Miscavige tries to say, “Hey, that wasn’t me, must have been DeVocht (or Rathbun, whomever) himself who did it!” DM will at least be on the hot seat for not going the extra mile to protect his bellow ‘big being’s’ dirty laundry.

    I’m not one for thumbing through celeb tell-alls with my left hand anda sweaty brow, or a big fan of The STarr Report and other sick pornographic hit-jobs, but unless the goal is jsut to scandalize the masses and titillate those Mr Rathbun so sweetly calls ‘groupies’ (and who are perhaps hs most steadfast defenders for some strange reason, even though many of them should be hauling his paunchy Scientology warrioror-ing ass to court themselves), thenthere is a specific ‘target-audience’ for this information. Oneperson (arguably two, though I prefer to call it one and half, physically, and nearly an entire 13 year-old with mental problems and aspirations to make all his enemies ‘pay!’ spirtiually menatllya nd emotionally):

    Tom Cruise and Dave Miscavige.

    Sew a seed of doubt in TC’s small, blindered brain, enough that he has to take a ‘pause’ in his Scilon, big-being, circle-jerk-of-jerks), and that everyone not actually on DM’s dime will sing in unison that Cruise has got to cut him loose or go down with the ship, whilst vowing solemnly not to believe a word of (“Did you hear? Tom can only get an erection now by dipping the whole half-inch of it in mayonnaise whilst filing down brunettes’ teeth, remembering how Father O’Smiley gave him those ‘special sessions’ that made him want join the seminary, and screaming how much he hates ‘those faggy guys ‘(quote from B. Pinchot’s AVclub interview, check it out!) whist allowing COB to not only use him as his puppet but to give him the ‘Full Fozzy’, elbow-deep, hand inside the puppet head and causing him to ‘Wakka-Wakka’ differently for the rest of his diminutive days…”) what they are close enough to him to know is true if only by the look of ultra-confident terror in his eyes…

    The, and only then, will TC waver…. If basic human values and caring about people were anywhere in the equation, he’d have stomped the little heel of the matching boots Davey bought him for their anniversary, hopped on his special ‘Twin BFF’s Forever’ Boy’s Bikes, and sped off into the desert hopefully to see if there was enough sand there to bury his head in…

    He knows. He doesn’t care. But if he actually has his stuff aired in public like everyone else, and one way or another it HAS to be Davey’s fault. Then, maybe, just MAYBE the dime will drop on the dimwit.

    But this ‘I head ‘sexual things’ and Davey laughed at this or that…? Gimme a break! That’s Hollywood Bull-Baiting Number One- If he couldn’t take that, he’s have had to drop out of his first acting class!

    So c’mon, let’s have it! ALl the Sicions can do it sputter and say it is totally untrue and full of utter untruths (and therefore they can’t really sue over it, or risk proof that that isn’t the case), or admit it’s true but blame it on someone else (nad prove they can’t be trusted)…

    I do not consider this ‘celeb gossip’ of the kind Tony quite rightly mocks here on occasion,a nd even more often quite rightly doesn’t even dignify with attention in order to deny it the oxygen needed to spread…

    This is a warning shot over Tom’s head (well, f course it’s over his head. What isn’t? (rime shit!)

    C’mon Tom, and Marty et al– Show the balls of one little boy on South Park, and DO something besides smirk and wait for the statute of limitations to run out whilst you publish books on how great Ron was/You were/How much greater you’re becoming now/How e too can become greater for just a small fee..

    I am not suggesting you take veangeance or try and destroy his reputation (and frankly an bit of healthy homosexual activity could only serve to HELP it now), but rather to give a few details, (the more embarrassing and specific, the better) that will prove to him that this isn’t mere rumour-mongering (and hopefully at the same time, show him that his participation is n a situation where people are ‘dead agented’ and ‘fair-played’ isn’t so fair after all).

    Otherwise, quite honestly, I don’t want to hear one more pudgy, smirking middle-aged guy talk about knowing Cruise or TC, or how they nearly, stood up to COB? or were so beaten by him,or ETC…

    C’mon– You’ve been waving Chekhov’s Gun around since the first act on opening night– It’s now the 99th performance of 1000 extras on an extended run after your successful 3rd year on Broadway– It’s time for it to go off, or for you to stop claiming to have anything more explosive that Jiffy Pop.

    • Peggy oh!

      They could at least send the info to his non-scion agent!

      But alas I think Cruise would still tell himself these SPs stole it out of his file not His big being buddy…

      • Tracy Schmitz

        true, you know when you think about it, why all those involved rathbun, rinder, devocht, headley, and whoever else who has left and spoken out and claim to KNOW and have seen with their own eyes the cruise audit files are we to all assume that 1) ONLY devocht saw miscavige reading and watching the printed and video cruise audits? and 2) NONE of these people and others ever ever thought to have you know ACTUAL proof of this happening besides their word? unless they were all and always frisked, NONE OF THEM? thought of i don’t know having a camera phone, a tape recorder, a camcorder, SOME kind of recording device on them/hidden to record either audio or video of the whole miscavige doing this to cruise and his audits? KIND OF IMPORTANT factual documentation one would think if your eventually and afterwards going to tell and spread the tale of it… i’m just saying..

        • Peggy oh!

          I am a never in, but it appears that the state of mind that people are in when they “blow” just isn’t conducive to gathering evidence, let alone try climbing one of those fences with a bankers box! :) Or however they escape, they are running for their lives.

          But really as much as I wish they could privately talk with Cruises most influential agents to try and get Cruise to wake up, he would never likely listen anyway.

          • Tracy Schmitz

            true, but it’s NOT like all of a sudden literally in the spur of the moment, they ran for the gates and took off.. from what i have read everyone thought and planned for it for some time. and in that time? they never thought they needed to have any kind of proof of any kind and that their word should someday they speak up and against it would be enough?…just saying….

            • Peggy oh!

              Just sayin…to me is code for I’m better than someone else. Just sayin…

            • Peggy oh!

              Edit to clarify. I didn’t mean you think you’re better than me, it just feels like Monday morning quarterbacking the escapees. Escapees from a nightmare, dangerous cult. As a never in I don’t want to do that. I can’t know what it was like.

            • Peggy oh!

              “Just sayin” is code to me for I’m better than you. Just sayin…

            • MaxSpaceman

              proof is the last thing on your mind when you’re trying to escape “North Korea.” The last thing.

              just saying.

        • richelieu jr

          Yeah, I agree that this sounds great to those of us never-ins, or outsiders, but it isn’t that easy (and look what happened to that poor, clearly unstable woman who tried to go on a one-woman spy-quest to document the Sae-Org)..

          Also, so many in the SeaOrg have enough trouble supplementing their Beans-and-Rice diet on their pay, let alone investing in pen-cameras and the like (though, sheesh– wouldn’t it be great, though?)

          • Tracy Schmitz

            true, but all of the ones mentioned were very high level officials for years and years, were they getting paid rice and beans money as well? they couldn’t stuff some paperwork somewhere on them? there wasnt’ a single recording device of some sort (gold base) they were privy to? just sounds unbelieveable that ALL who have left and who are speaking out, that NO ONE has anything more then their word.. i’m NOT trying to rag on these people, i believe them, i just want the rest of the world to believe them as well, i’m playing “devil’s advocate” i guess…

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              I’ve read in one of the books of the escapees (cannot immediately recollect which one, probably Blown for Good) that the level of information control is quite tight (DM notwithstanding), and that mobile phones aren’t permitted at Int unless it’s a very basic unit provided by Co$.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Devocht has a brain AND integrity, so not going to happen. You are suggesting manipulation of the worst king. Anything said in a session and that includes ethics sessions and yes this includes for everyone including Tom Cruise – it is a form of spiritual rape. It is designed to coerce and provoke and create so many disassociate states in order to induce and coddle false memories from you all day long. It becomes abuse, plain and simple, and for anyone to use any of that garbage for any purpose whatsoever is no better than David Miscavige himself.

      • Observer

        From my outside, not-in-the-know perspective, he and Jenny “Nobody Cares About You” Linson must have been a very odd couple.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Those who knew her early on all speak fondly of her, or the her they knew and seem pained to see what has become of her. Some people were natural born assholes, but many weren’t. Many I knew that turned into ronbots experienced one form or another of abuse growing up if that tells you anything.

          • Observer

            That’s horrible. It would have almost been better if she’d been a psycho to begin with.

            More blood on Hubbard’s and Miscavige’s hands. They didn’t kill her–yet–but they certainly destroyed her.

            • Draco

              You just have to look into her eyes to see what a tortured soul she is. She has done some very nasty things and I can’t even imagine what she has been put through to get into that kind of head space. It is horrible.

        • richelieu jr

          This ùay well be true, but do you know what you calla serial-killer who was abused as a child?

          A serial killer.

          The overwhelming majority of victims of abuse do not become criminals. So do the overwhelming number of people subjected to Scientology. It is only a select few who become monsters, and they should be treated and legally prosecuted as such.

      • richelieu jr

        Specific details, of meaning only in the verification of authenticity by Cruise.

        And I disagree with your final statement- Just because your enemy is lobbing grenades doesn’t mean you take them off the menu.

        I can take your point up tot he point of no including embarrassing details in public, but no details or use of this information at all( whilst saying you have it and hiding behind not using them) only neuters the information, and in fact weaponizes it for use against you by Miscavige; In this sense, not using them actually prolongs the abuse and helps ensconse Cruise deeper in his nasty little crime-hole…

        There of difference between using blackmail t ennslave and using it to get a kidnapper to release victims. Obfuscating these sort of moral truths is the bread and butter of Hubbard ‘eithcs’ and his bizarro-world interpretations of acts.

        Intent counts. So do results.

    • Billy Bob

      I think the outlaws (SPs) have to take the high ground on this one. Outing someone from their PC folder is bad. Co$ can do it. Critics have to be the good guys.

      • Draco

        What Billy Bob also said ^^^

      • richelieu jr

        I must have missed the good guys on my list…

    • Ben Franklin

      Have you even thought about how airing such things in public may affect the people connected to Cruise. It is not just about Tom. What Tom can do is get in touch quietly and verify for himself what was said, then make up his mind. Personally, I applaud Tom D, Marty or anyone else privy of the details for keeping such things private.

      • Draco

        What Ben said. ^^^

      • richelieu jr

        How and why would Tom be getting in touch with these people?

        And I fail to see how specific sexual acts, removed from place and time can affect those near to Tom Cruise– Or are you speaking of those slave-labourers running his household, fixing his cars and pimping for him– Perhaps those getting their teeth-filed down?

        Or his ex-wife getting to speak freely with her kids again without poison being poured in their ears from Tom, Davey and company?

        • Ben Franklin

          If tom Cruise wanted to get in touch today with Marty Rathbun or Tom Devocht, I don’t think it would be such a mind boggling endeavor.

          Some of the people I am talking about who may be adversely affected by lurid details are his children. His daughter doesn’t need to know. Tom did not intend for the information to be out there in the first place. No one has the right to know about his sex life.

          • Tracy Schmitz

            “no one has the right to know about his sex life” .. true, only scientology should and does! oh brother, that RIGHT THERE IS THE UNBELIEVABLE MIND BLOWING CAN’T BELIEVE FACT! mr.famous super big movie star telling ANYONE about his sex life and i mean EVERYTHING about it and thought it was okay, normal and helpful? NEVER MIND it could be found out anything if it was bad, NEVER MIND it was your/his religion, a RELIGION asking you about your sex life and WRITING YOUR ANSWERS DOWN FOR ALL TIME SAFE KEEPING!…

            • Ben Franklin

              Just goes to show that nothing is ever confidential, once you make private information known to another human being it is only a matter of time before it becomes a weapon.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Not sure if I understood your post. What’s delicate here is that Marty Rathbun was TC’s auditor: whatever private details get leaked, cos will blame him, and TC will believe it.

      It would be a great way to destroy Rathbun, but as a double-edged sword, it’s also what would release the hold they have on TC. Though frankly, at this point I think TC qualifies as fanatical and won’t see or can be appeased from whatever evidence is put in front of him

      • Draco

        Exactly – Rathbun was the auditor and would automatically get blamed.
        But apart from that, I find the releasing of someone’s dirty laundry confessed in session, is something I find very distasteful, no matter what the supposed motive. That would be stooping to DM’s level and that’s just ugly.
        Apart from which – it really isn’t necessary. The internet delivered a deathblow to scientology. It is now like a brain dead body that is kept going with life support machines (whale money). And quite frankly, I don’t really care if TC goes to his grave believing in Davy, LRH, Xenu and BTs. From his behavior, he deserves that.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          The more I think about it, the more I’m pretty sure the release of private details is inevitable with an ensuing finger-pointing derail.

          Good luck, Tom.

        • richelieu jr

          Yes, he as Davey will go tot heir graves i luxury, adored by many followers and getting richer every minute…

          Sounds horrible.

          However, bnoht of yourpoints that as TC’s auditor Marty is a very poor choice for the messanger or source, is well-taken. I have clearly let my distaste for his actions colour the rest of my post.

    • BosonStark

      I agree that if Cruise ever heard or read that Miscavige was divulging his sexual secrets as revealed in auditing, and laughing about them, he’d never believe it.

      Even if it was a small detail that was revealed and wouldn’t make sense to anybody but Cruise, e.g., “butter,” “toes,” “while standing on his head,” or whatever, just SOMETHING that would be enough to let Cruise know this is about him.

      As it is expressed in the documentary, it’s enough to keep a new generation of actors who see it out of Scientology.

      • richelieu jr

        That is certainly no small thing, I agree.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Tom Cruise and Tom DeVocht and John Brousseau and Rathbun need to meet. Tom has to suspend his disconnection from them long enough to have a real face to face.

      They tell Tom, in person, everything they witnessed DM do with regard to Tom. Everything, in detail. Enough to show Tom, in spite of his unwillingness to have it be true, to know that DM has violated his trust and friendship and that Tom has made a mistake in befriending DM.

      If Tom cannot arrange this to get to the facts about DM, he’s a pussy.

      • richelieu jr

        Excellent, Michael. I prefer your idea!

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    If I was in Copenhagen on the UN’s International Day of Happiness, I’d walk less than 50 feet away and get myself a hot-dog. Jebus, those things are good!

    • Jenny Daniels

      And the ice cream? Oh my, so so yummy!

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        OT anecdote. I was in one of their museums (wax, I think) and at the beginning had a mirror with a placard that said something like ‘only one in 100,000 people can twist their tongue upside down’. I tried it, couldn’t do it, no worries and moved on.

        We get to the end of the exhibit, come to a window with a placard that said ‘99,999 out of 100,000 people think they can twist their tongue upside down’. Three people happened to be on the other side trying. I gently tapped the window and spooked them. I was still rolling with laughter when I walked out. I hope they understood the joke, when their turn came to the two-way mirror, that someone acknowledged seeing them.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    New building model: Reminds me of this famous building. Can’t they do anything that isn’t old and rehashed? Or just ripped off?

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:La_Grande_Arche_%282%29.JPG

    • Observer

      Scientology: The Religion of Plagiarists

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        With the faux–grandiosity of Speer!

        • Rasha

          My thoughts as well…

        • Ardent

          No. no…Seriously. Speer had a completely different style. Honestly, this is not a fair comparison.

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            I know, I’m being unfair to the nazis!

          • scottmercer

            The intent is the same. They were trying for Speer and failed.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse
    • Ardent

      Yes, I see the similarity. I think ‘ELRON HALL’ is about as ugly as a run-down bowling alley that was tricked-out to look like one of Dave’s Uber-Stages. I wonder what it will become? a movie theatre one day? Torn down? Blown down in the next high wind?

  • Chee Chalker

    Is the giant hamster ball some kind of warning?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It’s been compared to The Prisoner old TV series. It’s So much like it. Does anyone know if there is construction already started?

    • Ben Franklin

      Well… the bridge has now become like a hamster wheel, once you get to the top levels you start again from the lower levels

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It was always a hamster wheel. It’s just that now, Miscavige has made it insanely obvious – almost like he’s not even trying to retain broke and broken customers anymore.

        • Ben Franklin

          He has to keep recycling to survive as the membership keeps dwindling

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            $cientology–pioneers at recycling hokey 50s sci–fi woo–woo!

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          I like the metaphor of hamster ball. No matter which way you go, it’s always uphill, you go faster and faster and feel like you are getting somewhere but can’t quite make it past that invisible quarter inch.

          And you depend on outsiders for your freedom.

      • Chee Chalker

        Yes, good point!

  • Pierrot

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  • Richard

    The L. Ron Hubbard Hall is perfect for Scientology’s most recent needs, and in fact, it might even be a bit too big, in that it takes up almost the entire lobby of the Fort Harrison, which might be just a bit too much for the number of Scientologists that actually attend events . In any case, it’s made to fit for little Captain Miscavige.

    • Draco

      First thought I had: I can just imagine that great big ball coming loose during a typical Floridian hurricane, rolling down the pathway and crashing through that glass front.
      In my defense, that pathway does look a bit like a Liberace bowling alley from the front.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Liberace bowling alley–bahahaha :) ETA: perfect description, Draco

      • Richard

        Yes, quite.
        Personally, I find that ball rather underwhelming for something as great as Scientology. At the most it can signify our planet, Earth, or rather, Teegeeack. Should Scientology not try to represent something more like the entire galaxy with a sculpture?

        • MaxSpaceman

          Yes, certainly this ‘sector’ of the guh-LAX-y. All 76 planets of the Marcabian Confederacy need to be displayed. And named.

          • Rasha

            …and all 47 Continents of TeeGeeAck….

  • Sid

    The L Ron Hubbard Hall will be built. Final rendering is now available. (F5)

    • Rasha

      More distraction from the true state of affairs. ….must… postulate….. winningnessishness…..

      • Sid

        It is the BORG way.

  • nottrue
  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Saw an episode of “The Mentalist” last night on TV. The show had the main character dealing with the head of a cult called “Visualization” which had many specific parallels to Scientology. You couldn’t miss that Scn was the model it was written around.

    Fun. There are more and more writers who are completely willing to put bad guys into their scripts that are just thinly varnished versions of Scientologists and Scientology.

    • seriouslyWTF

      I saw that as well.. Just caught bits and pieces of it, but I agree. Here is a clip from one of my favourite shows, Supernatural. I was watching reruns and this is from 2008 I believe, which is way before I went down the rabbit hole. I had to laugh at their scientology slam… (F5 Refresh) https://youtu.be/mlcMJDHNE2c

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Perfect!

    • SkyBill40

      Malcolm McDowell plays that character to a tee. I’m sure David Mixedcabbage is proud to be so aptly represented on screen.

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        One of my friends goes to the S.F. Symphony, which recently did Stravinsky’s The Soldiers’ Tale, which has a speaking part for The Devil. Knowing this, I asked her who played him. It was Malcolm, of course. Apparently, he’s the go-to for evil these days.

        • SkyBill40

          That’s coincidentally awesome.

      • Captain MustSavage

        I actually think there was subtext to McDowells casting as Brett Stiles in The Mentslist. His most well known role was as a violent psychopath (A Clockwork Orange) – so the parallels go a little deeper.

        • SkyBill40

          Yeah, I knew about ACO. Another perfect fit. McDowell is a fantastically talented actor and plays the role of the stoic yet eerie psychopath to the letter.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Yea, well wait until genetics allows Malcolm McDowell and James Spader to have a love child!

            • SkyBill40

              Good lord…. err, Xenu.

      • Juicer77

        The buildings, the entourage, the layers of secrecy. It was really well done.

        • SkyBill40

          Indeed.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      Yeah, there’s an episode of L&O:CI, where Karen Black had a small role, where they sneak in Scientology talk in a story regarding the murder of a gangster:

      http://theravingqueen.blogspot.com/2011/10/girls-i-was-so-glad-to-see-this.html

      Detective Robert Goren: Look, strip down all their double-talk. What is it that Randall Fuller really said to those people?
      [paraphrasing]
      Detective Robert Goren: “Everything you’ve done is wrong.” “Everything you are is false.”
      Detective Alexandra Eames: “But it wasn’t your fault; you were ‘programmed’ that way.”
      Detective Robert Goren: “Leave it to Grace Note to give you back your life.” It’s *very* seductive.

      Detective Alexandra Eames: The “Grace Note” Suicide Diet!

      Doug Morgan: No!
      [rises from his seat]
      Doug Morgan: It’s – it’s – it’s how you see it. It’s the story you tell. It’s not the way it is. *You* can’t differentiate one thing from another, you…
      [bangs on interrogation-room door]
      Doug Morgan: I know how it is. I get it. You don’t. You’re not a “clear”!

      Detective Robert Goren: And that’s when you overcame your biggest fear. You changed your way of being.
      Doug Morgan: Yes!
      Detective Robert Goren: You killed your dad and transformed your life.
      Doug Morgan: [nods, smiling] Yes, I did.
      Detective Alexandra Eames: And you killed your brother for the same reason.
      Detective Robert Goren: The brother who had loved you, who watched over you.
      Doug Morgan: It’s wasn’t real love. The context wasn’t authentic. He watched out for me out of guilt. It’s old stuff.
      Detective Robert Goren: It’s in the past. You killed your dad and you… let it go.
      Doug Morgan: Yes!
      Detective Robert Goren: Well, so then you became everything that Grace Note promised you. I mean, like it says here in the brochure, look! You became creator of your own destiny! Wow, look at you! You’re a success story!

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629518/quotes?ref_=tt_ql_3

    • i-Betty

      Hail those brave souls who blazed a trail!

      Bailiff: All rise. The Honorable Judge Shepherd presiding.

      Judge: Be seated. Mr. Manning, you’ve agreed to a bench trial as opposed to taking your chances with a jury of your peers, which means that I alone will be deciding your fate. Do you understand?

      Manning: Yes, your honor, I understand.

      Judge: Call your first witness.

      Prosecutor: The prosecution calls Heather Webber…Miss Webber currently resides in maximum security at the MISCAVIGE HOSPITAL FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE.

      Judge And yet you deem her to be a credible witness.

      http://tonyortega.org/2013/03/17/abc-finally-takes-on-scientology-with-general-hospital/

    • Draco

      I have noticed this. It has also become the butt of one-liners in sitcoms.

      • Robert Eckert

        Bill Maher casually uses Scientology as an example of a cult, with a dig at Cruise:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVDs92Ujok

        • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

          “Theta Blockers” is a nice bonus.

    • romanesco

      If I were writing for The Mentalist and had just seen Going Clear, and had to come up with an idea for an episode, well…. In fact, knowing something of what it was about, I might just go see it for inspiration purposes. I don’t know using Scientology as a script idea was ever necessarily taboo; I just think it’s something that’s on people’s minds because of the film.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Script and filming had to be occurring way before the release of Gibney’s film. It might even have started last season.

        • romanesco

          Good point. I wasn’t thinking about the timeline. But possibly other things have been bringing Scientology to the forefront.

    • http://scicrit.wordpress.com Once_Born

      There is video of two episodes which dealt with ‘Visualize’ here: https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/scientology-and-the-mentalist/

      It is, indeed, obvious that Scientology is the model for Visualize. However, the first appearance of ‘Visualize’ went back to 2010. The writers were somewhat ahead of their time.

      The only significant difference is that the ‘leader’ of Visualize is clever and capable – he has to be, in order to be a worthy opponent to Jane (the Mentalist of the title). These are not characteristics normally associated with Miscavige.

    • aegerprimo

      There was an episode of the new show Backstrom that had parallels to Scientology as well (episode is called “Takes One to Know One.”)

  • 0tessa

    This Hubbard Hall: a perfect mausoleum for Scientology.

    • Ben Franklin

      The church will just keep building and buying buildings to give the impression to the outside world that it is expanding, when in fact it is shrinking

      • MaxSpaceman

        Which is the secondary reason behind the fundamental need to park that cash. And where Dave has the local Scilon membership come up with the dough, it is his Landlord’s Office which will take the titles and manage the properties worldwide. It is a huge Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT).

        • Ben Franklin

          Once almost all members quit, or have been driven out of the church, guess who will be in charge of appropriating all that wealth?

    • Draco

      That’s what it looks like! A Liberace bowling alley leading up to a mausoleum!

  • SkyBill40

    A perfectly fitting line from one of my all time favorite movies (regarding the Hubbard Hall):

    “Nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

    • Ardent

      ‘Alien II’ wasn’t it?

      • SkyBill40

        Would you like a Freedom Medal, a Freedom Medal of Valor, or some bro knuckles/fist bump? 😛

        • Ardent

          Would you believe, ice-cream?

          • SkyBill40

            I’d impale ol’ Dave on the fence for a Klondike bar.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Good choice! (The klondike bar–you can do what you want with the midget!)

          • Draco

            Yes! Ice-cream. With lashings of yummy gooey hot chocolate sauce!!

            • Zana

              Warm Chocolate fudge sauce on coffee ice cream with 7 roasted almonds. That’s what they used to serve at Wil Wrights Ice Cream Parlor in Westwood when I was a kid. Yum. Haven’t had good chocolate fudge in 20 or 30 years.

            • Juicer77

              Ok, but your hips will be sorry: 4 squares unsweetened baking chocolate (the darker the better), 1/2 cup butter, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 12 oz. evaporated milk. Melt together all ingredients in a saucepan on the stovetop, stirring constantly.

            • Zana

              OMG! The real recipe for home-made chocolate fudge??!!!! (I need some exclamation point tech here!!!!). I’m so excited. I will treasure this and not do it right now, as my hips don’t want it right now….however…at a big celebration of something or during a time when I need a good hit of serotonin…I’ll have at it!! Thank you. :-).

              Doesn’t it need at least a little sugar?

            • Juicer77

              The condensed milk has a lot of sugar but you can add more to taste :) Some people add a little vanilla extract too but it’s optional.

            • Juicer77

              Recipe edited: condensed not evaporated milk – oops!

  • MaxSpaceman

    UTRs. Lurkers. If you’re on the bubble, this is now:

    • Ben Franklin

      I believe that there are so many members under the radar that when the church starts to crumble it will be like a domino or snowball effect

      • Ardent

        That is a distinct possibility.

      • Sid

        That’s a very good point.

      • shasha40

        Tsunami , anyone ???

    • Billy Bob
    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      If you wanna blow, but feel there is no hope,
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!
      Told to disconnect–by some short–arsed pope!
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!

      Told you’re PTS, in a heartless note,
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!
      Gonna be Comm Ev’d–without any proof!
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!

      Declared SP, by the midget dope,
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!
      Free loaders bill, coming in the post!
      Who you gonna call? X Sea Org!

      I ain’t afraid of short jokes!

      • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

        “Get The Party Started”

        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started

        Get this party started on a Saturday night
        Everybody’s waiting for me to arrive
        Sendin’ out the message to all of my SPs
        We’ll be looking flashy, Xenu and me
        I got lot of style, check my gold diamond rings
        I can go for eons if you know what I mean

        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started

        Pumping up the entheta, breaking down to the beat
        Cruisin’ ’round the Orgs
        We’ll be checkin’ the scene
        Sea Borgs are freakin’ as I’m comin’ up so fast
        I’ll be burnin’ rubber, Grant’ll be kissin’ my ass
        Pull up to the bumper, get out of the car
        License plate says Stunner #1 Superstar

        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        Get this party started

        Making my connection as I enter the room
        Everybody’s chilling as I set up the groove
        Pumpin’ up the volume with this brand new beat
        Everybody’s dancing and they’re dancing for me
        I’m your operator, you can call anytime
        I’ll be your connection to the ex-S-O line

        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started
        I’m blowin’ out so you better get this party started

        Get this party started
        Get this party started right now
        Get this party started
        Get this party started
        Get this party started right now

    • aegerprimo

      The London number works now?

      • MaxSpaceman

        ooops! didn’t test it :-/

        • aegerprimo

          I believe the London number has been disconnected for years and remember someone posted something about it on one of the Red X threads at WWP. Chuck Beatty helps keep the 1-866-X-SeaOrg number up and running.

    • aegerprimo

      BTW, here are some 1-866-X-SeaOrg graphics made by various Bunkerites that I have up at my Flickr account. Feel free to post them as you wish!

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/sets/72157644864575136/

  • i-Betty

    “Scientology is trying to glom onto the UN’s International Day of Happiness (March 20) by handing out The Way to Happiness booklets. Here they are in Denmark, and look how happy!”

    Yesterday some of us watched ‘Happiness’ in the “TWTH Series” of videos made by Scientology. I know that sentence doesn’t make a great deal of sense, but only this shower could create something called “The Way To Happiness: Happiness!”. Just trips off the tongue :)

    Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that practically every black face or face of colour in the “Happiness” video was depicted by the Scientology film maker as either downtrodden, depressed, homeless, hungry, a drug-dealer or a beggar.

    That’s the reason Obs posted her “Ron Series: Humanitarian” in here for me so I could share it with SPs. I’ll post it again so you can read it in context with the above.

    F5

    • Sid

      These Ron Series covers are brilliant.

      • i-Betty

        Some of her best work.

        • Sid

          I agree. Definitely among my favorites.

    • Zana

      A cousin of mine (Mormon) sent me a video of the Jive Aces…something about getting happy for the Happiness Day. It was really a good video… I didn’t tell her it was by Scientologists. Just left the subject alone.

      • Sejanus

        why not tell her?

      • Juicer77

        I had no idea the Jive Aces had any kind of career at all outside $ciland!

    • Tracy Schmitz

      this is the cover of one of the 15 to 20 hardback books of hubbard at my local junior college that some scientologist had given to them… they were sitting on a library cart at the entrance with a sign attached “FREE”… when i made mention of this to the librarian she rolled her eyes and said “yes, please, please take them, take as many as you want, just get them out of here!” (would love to have been there in person when the cultie came in with them and listen to the “spiel” they gave the librarians!) so i took 5 or so home, browsed thru them and had the opposite emotions of “this is utter stupidity and laughing ridiculousness” threw away the books in the trash the same day.. but i felt i did my “good deed of the day” taking them away from this library and away from others and then putting them where they would do the most good, that being my trash can!”

      • i-Betty

        “this is utter stupidity and laughing ridiculousness”

        How well I know that feeling, Tracy! :)

    • Peggy oh!

      Oh oh I got an idea. Maybe someone could make up some The Way to Happiness pamphlets and inside the info for 1-800-ex seaport and other support for how to blow! And hand those out!

  • Richard

    The L. Ron Hubbard Hall is another example of what I would call Fascist architecture.

    Take, for example, the atrium of the Super Power building with its enormous marble-lined spaces and bronze statues.

    In Italy, there are many wonderful examples of this type of grandiose architecture, like the Central Station in Milan and on a lesser scale, the station in Florence, or, curiously, where I studied in Cremona, which was in an enormous monumental brick building built in the 1930s under Mussolini’s rule.

    Mussolini wanted to emanate the Roman Empire and the architecture of the period was in keeping with that of two thousand years previously. Doric pillars, immense spaces and marble were used to recapture the spirit of a lost empire.

    This, interestingly, is exactly what Miscavige is doing. However, if Italian architecture of the 1930s is fascinating to look at now, Scientology’s architecture today represents everything that Fascism really means.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love
      • Richard

        That is frightening.

      • Ardent

        Oh, come on! There is no comparison here. The Hubbard monstrosity looks more like the Kennedy centre and a bad airport blended with some vague attempt at Gehry along the sides. And then there’s all that glass. Speer did stone, stone and more stone (or concrete). NOT glass.That’s all I’m gonna say on the subject. It’s a reach too far.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          I meant it reminds me of how humans are much reduced or insignificant in scale when you look at the buildings. It’s a cenotaph for a god, not a dead prophet who was human like the rest of us.

          • Peggy oh!

            That’s how I took it. And not just scale. Their designs are not people friendly; in fact only in masses would humans complement the settings. It’s buildings for Homo Novii or Master Race. In that way they are similar.

            They don’t even bother to put in places to sit, rest, enjoy oneself.

            Or even to-scale models of people, and how the buildings would be used.

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              This:

              And what did Speer expect the ordinary German citizen to feel?

              “Nothing. It was not my aim that he feels anything. I had only the aim to impose the grandeur of the building upon the people who are in it. If people who may have different minds are pressed together in such surroundings, they all get unified to one mind. That is really all.”

            • Peggy oh!

              Exactly!

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          It look like a 70s VCR– probably Betamax.

    • romanesco

      Do you mean emanate or emulate?

      • Richard

        Woops! Corrected.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      I think Miscavige is forgetting Scientology’s roots!

      Only one half is based on Leni Riefenstahl. The other half comes from Ming the Merciless!
      http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/flashgordon3.jpg

  • exccla

    I saw the HBO Documentary on Robert Durst and that day he was arrested and imprisoned for several crimes he commited in New Orleans . He also will probably have to face a jury for 2-3 old murders he most likely commited. Today I just watched another documentry in which an imprisoned mentally disturbed man had his sentenced reduced [rightfully ] by decades after the film was made.Anxious to see what Going Clear can do to help find justice for the thousands of scientologists who deserve it. I have hope.

    • Juicer77

      It’s not what Going Clear can do, it’s what we as individuals can do to direct the wave of public sentiment to expose their crimes.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Well, we didn’t spot MISTER Cruise but here are some photos of the Clams out on Hollywood Blvd. The number standing on the sidewalk in front of the Information Center varied but at one point I think we counted 7 mingling about, wearing that wait staff vest ensemble. In those uniforms they look like they should be holding trays and taking drink orders. Most of the time, they were accompanied by a guy dressed in a suit. And I hate to say this, but a surprising number of people were going inside.

    There were also 2 more stationed a few doors down on the corner at Highland, in front of Ripley’s Odditorium.

    Bonus pic: They had a little competition. The last photo is a guy who was on the other corner, directly across from Ripley’s. And note that he charges a lot less than the CO$. Who knows what kind of tech he’s got, but
    it can’t be any more useless than LRH’s, right?
    (refresh)

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      The competition:
      (refresh)

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Yup, I’ll take his advice–loads cheaper!

      • Sid

        I tried to find this guy once but happen to ask the guy 3 blocks away who had a sign that said, “Bad Directions” $20.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Yes, but his “personality test” was free, right? :)

          • Sid

            No, I think the “Free Personality Test” guys were across the street from the “Degrading Compliments” guy.

    • flyonthewall

      Thnx for the pics. I wouldn’t worry about people going inside. I wasn’t aware of Sci or protesting, obviously, in 2008 but from what I’ve read when the protests started lots of people went in Orgs just out of curiosity but no one bought anything or started on course. I’ll bet it’s the same now w/all the GC attn

      • Jgg2012

        ” I wouldn’t worry about people going inside” especially if those people are demanding refunds or serving Davey with lawsuits.

    • Juicer77

      I wonder if any of those going inside were public answering the Call to Arms that THDNE has been predicting? Were they “body routed” in or did they arrive and go directly in?

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Some were walking in by themselves and others were accompanied by the “waiters”. It appeared very busy inside. :(

        • Juicer77

          Don’t let it get you down. Remember that very few who go in start courses, and very few of those stay with it for any length of time. Let’s hope, as other commenters have said, that a lot of it is gawping curiosity seekers who’ve heard about the documentary. Perhaps one or two of those newcomers are whispering sweet nothings about escape in the staff’s ears?

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            It might be a weird backlash effect.

            A bunch of folks who have seen “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief” wandering through Hollywood and the see the test center. “Hey, lets go in and check it out!” (Smirk) (stifled laughter) “Sure, it’ll be ‘interesting’.”

            Much hilarity ensues.

            • Peggy oh!

              Just use the buddy system. Do NOT try this alone!!!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Absolutely!

        • scottmercer

          It’s a very busy street. But a lot of them are tourists who have no orgs or missions where they live. For a lot of them it’s just part of the goofy Hollywood Boulevard freak show. Something to tell the folks back home about.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Sort of a “Xenu’s Believe It or Not! Odditorium”? But even less believable.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Yikes! Clams Div 6’ing. And routing Bodies Into The Shop ! A Shop of Horrors !! Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!

    • L. C. Spencer

      Brown Hat Man appears to be delivering a piece of his mind to one unlucky whippersnapper.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        His poor little doggie is probably thinking, “I’ve chased squirrels whose chattering made more sense than these folks. They’re after my kibble funds, lets get outta here!”

        • Juicer77

          “Not the Snausages!”

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Yep, it’s always worse than you think! LOL

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I predict this one little station on Planet Teegeack will soon feel their stats zoom straight up and vertical – Hollywood tourists come out of Ripley’s, notice the scientology sign, after watching Going Clear, and can’t help but gawk inside. I can practically see the promo piece that will wind up in Sunday Funnies – proclaiming worldwide expansion due to Going Clear – lordy, I betcha anything.

    • scottmercer

      I enjoy going up to them and whispering in their ears” Shh! I’m undercover. OSA. I’ll be sure to let COB know you’re doing an excellent job. Very high tone scale. Keep it up.”

    • Tracy Schmitz

      can you even fathom and imagine! everytime i see YOUNG people involved? i can understand (a little tiny bit) about those who were born into it or for whatever reason have been in for decades and are not old, but a young person? WHAT THEY NEVER HAVE READ A BOOK, MAGAZINE, WATCHED TV, BEEN ON THE INTERNET, NOTHING to NOT KNOW what scientology is about! did they grow up in a cave in the middle of nowhere? absolutely mind blowing cluelessness!….

  • valshifter

    The LRH Hall looks very North Korea, they keep on building as if some day in the future weather we want it or not they will be the imperial house of the country.

    • Jgg2012

      Yes, it’s very empty.

    • shasha40

      Come on , valshifter , even wee Davey can dream , um , I mean postulate . Yeah, that’s it !

      • valshifter

        Yes, he can postulate what to do with Tom Cruise, I mean Mr Cruise, but if he keeps on talking about him as if he is his little toy, pretty soon he wont have nobody on his side to run the Empire. I hope Tom is watching and would ask him about what is being said here and in the media, it sure seems like is time for him to wake up.

        • shasha40

          If this media tsunami , doesn’t wake him, nothing will . I wouldn’t want to be him or JT with a movie coming out soon … They’d better jump ship soon .

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            Makes you wonder what Going Clear will do to MI5 ticket sales.

            • shasha40

              It don’t look good , Lucy ! ( in my Ricky Ricardo voice ) : D

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      OK, the missing comma and wrong “whether” REALLY hurt my feeble brain. I kept thinking “what does this have to do with weather in the future….”

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        L Wrong–Grammar Police :) (and there’s an argument for a further comma in there!)

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Shit, I’m the last person who should be on grammar patrol, but that one really got me. I tried to make sense of it maybe three or four times before it sunk in.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      They’ve been talking about it long enough.

      Ruling by IRS leaves doubt October 16, 1993, Bob Henderson, Editor’s Note, St. Petersburg Times

      And there is little doubt that they will expand here. The Scientologists continue to approach various downtown property owners. They probably are going to need additional land for parking when they build their $40-million dome and adjacent 2,500-seat auditorium.

      • One Human

        1993? WTF??!!
        Tick tock, MF, tick, tock!!

  • Juicer77

    O/T but not really: I’m watching Alex Gibney’s Mea Maxima Culpa documentary right now. This episode of Crime Time interviewing Father Thomas Doyle should be required watched after you’ve seen that documentary. It’s powerful stuff.

    I’m posting this because no one, no organization, no matter how elevated, wealthy or powerful should be exempt from answering for their crimes. As long as systems are in place that promote the abuse of any human being, we should fight them. As we look forward to the network premiere of Going Clear on 3/29, it’s amazing to look at the similar patterns that develop to keep these corrupt systems in place. I don’t believe we should eradicate Catholicism or any belief system but the abuses must stop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYHUgumXDhs

    • Allie

      Agree with you totally. I was very touched by this film and very angered by the horrendous abuses.
      They must ALL stop NOW–with any organization or individual. And justice must prevail to the predators. And love and compassion for the victims.

      • Juicer77

        Watch the interview if you haven’t already. Father Doyle is an amazing person doing amazing work.

        • Allie

          Thanks, Juicer. I’ll check it out. I like positive stories of people doing good things.

    • romanesco

      I’d say the more wealthy, powerful or influential they are the higher the priority is for them to be held accountable.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Amen. And that’s what will get us there. Not narrowly focusing on scientology, but the whole enchilada. That is buzzing along public lines now; just need to channel that towards the lawmakers and movers.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        ^^^ That. When reading Going Clear, I noticed that there was mention of the fact that the use of the term cult wasn’t valid, as all religions operate in a similar fashion (statements from authority, untestable information presented as unimpeachable ‘fact’ and its acceptance by faith, etc, etc)–hence the weasel phrase “New Religious Movements”.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Yeah, that whole “new religious movements” always makes me think of another kind of movement – and it’s all bullcr*p. But it’s tax exempt and criminal excempt bullcr*p, ain’t it.

          While me and thee would like to see changes for higher ground reasons, if theres a money incentive, that’s where you can attract lawmakers attention.

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            Very true–and if the lawmakers get swamped by enough outraged questioning from their electorate as to why the IRS granted 501c3 status to Co$ in 1993, then that can only be a good start.

  • bryan penatr

    Soon it will be like that movie………. Equilibrium!

    • SkyBill40

      Don’t take the meds! Save the doggies!

  • nottrue
    • Juicer77

      Hey, their sources are improving :)

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Here is Jen Heger of Radar Online reviewing Going Clear on KABC radio (skip to 21:30)
      http://kabc.podbean.com/e/drive-home-031615-5pm/

    • L. C. Spencer

      Don’t leave off the glorious ‘shop job they deemed this story worthy of! Love how with the source pics they chose, she’s radiant and DM and TC look like absolute dorks :-)

      • Tracy Schmitz

        even in this 1 photo this is a CLASSIC REPRESENTATION OF MISCAVIGE AND CRUISE! miscavige looks like the epitome of a asshole jerk cruel pathological in all aspects of emotions and atittude and personality and action and yes even evil and cruise looks like a wide eyed simpleton and gullible to the point of being pathetic mentality of a teenager encased in a 50 something year old body.

  • Cindy

    An actor friend (and Tony award winner) saw Going Clear last week at the Arc Light. Told me that the theatre was filled and that Scientology was “horrifying.”

    • Sid

      Thank god it wasn’t the opposite with a horrifying theatre and Scientology was filled.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Comedian in the Bunker ^^^ 😉 lol

        • Sid

          Well it was more along the lines of what Scientology would think of it. They think their church is filling up, and the movie Going Clear is horrifying. Scientology is a world of opposites.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I saw your posts down lower… you on a roll today! 😉

            But yes, this could just have easily have been a comment pointing out the hilariously sad truth from CO$ perspective.

        • Eileen

          Yes he his, but often subtle.

    • Peggy oh!

      O/T but I listened to Clair Headley on Surviving Scientology podcast last night and learned that Davey had an Oscar (or Emmy?) statue made for himself for his appearance with Ted Koppel! Hahaha. It’s sad when Evil Embodied is also such a putz.

      • KingofSweden

        Making a fake award for himself?!?!? What a fucking loser.

      • Robert Eckert

        An Emmy, because Koppel won an Emmy for that interview and Miscavige thought he deserved the credit.

        http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/326/2/7/L_is_for_Loser_by_luqinhas.jpg

        • Peggy oh!

          Oh, no I know it should have been an Emmy, but they weren’t sure. Claire thought it was an Oscar, and was there at the time, which led to much lulz for the two of them! An Oscar for a a TV show! But, understandably, Claire having been barred from TV couldn’t say for sure that it wasn’t an a Emmy statue. That’s why I left it as a question.

          • Robert Eckert

            It’s possible Dave didn’t know the difference between an Emmy and an Oscar, and had them make an Oscar statuette because he has no idea what an Emmy even looks like; that could easily be the case. For reference, this is an Emmy:

            http://www.tvweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/emmy-trophy.jpg

            • Peggy oh!

              Yes! They did discuss this! It was true he had it made up because Koppel got an a Emmy for the episode and that M felt ‘he had made the show great-not Koppel!’ It’s entirely possible M didn’t know the difference-or- in his megalomania gave himself the higher award! Gah! What a dipstick.

            • Zana

              Those statues are trademarked. A friend of mine bought me a miniature solid gold Oscar to wear on a necklace a long time ago in Beverly HIlls. The jeweler was forced to melt the rest of them because it was not properly licensed. (not mine, tee hee.) So, I’m not sure who would actually make DM a fake Oscar or Emmy…unless it’s one of the Sea Org guys.

            • Robert Eckert

              Maybe John Brousseau would do. He seemed to handle that kind of project back then.

      • Allie

        OMFG! Is this really true? I’ve never heard this before. The Demented Midget is absolutely unbelievable. I’ve never seen a more idiotic, insane, egomanical, demented and delusion person in my life. Ted Koppel did a great interview and deserved the Emmy. Miscavige sounded like a 3rd grader trying to be coherent but just couldn’t get out the right words or explain things well at all. It’s so like him to take credit for someone else’s success, isn’t it? If he was sooooo good at doing that interview, why is he then NOT speaking out today to show Scientology in the best possible light.?? I’d say he was a coward in the truest sense of the word. Fuck you, Davey.

        • Peggy oh!

          Yep. The podcast is on YouTube on the surviving scientology channel. It’s pretty hilarious. And it was good timing for me because I recently watched the Koppel interview. Wow. He was awful. Many politicians and such can spin, or pivot away and give non answers but captain demento was horrible at it. (And given the LRH tech he should be the best at this in the gulaxee!)

          >I’ve never seen a more idiotic, insane, egomanical, demented and delusion person in my life.<

          Well LRH. But I gather he seems to possibly have had some demented charm. :)

          • Allie

            Agree with you, Peggy. I’ve seen the Koppel interview and I was amazed at how poorly Miscavige did in that interview. I’ve also read depos while he comes across as being a total idiot. Maybe he plays this for effect or thinks he’s being smart, but it has the opposite effect.

          • Tracy Schmitz

            and yet, he’s best buds with t.c.? what does that say? “oh wait, if you only REALLY knew him, miscavige is in private life a very decent moral good person, you know as all religious leaders are!” UH HUH!.. couldn’t stand looking at this man (and i use the term “man” very loosely) and hearing him speak and be in the same room with him for 5 minutes even if i didn’t know anything about him and/or scientology beforehand….

            • Peggy oh!

              Oh man 50 seconds would do it for me. Koppel got the Emmy for just staying in the room with him for an hour!!!

    • Nancy Law

      that is such a wonderful thing to hear … for every heart break felt, finally, the world is believing … thank you Alex Gibney and our proprietor and all those participating in the film and Tory and all of you here … $cientology kills the spirit … and yes, wouldn’t it be wonderful to get more indepth info about Lisa MacPherson from Bennetta Slaughter as Ella Raitch said above. Its amazing how much damage can be done to a person who is on staff in this “cherch” even over the small amount of 3 years like I was. I don’t think there’s anything worse on this earth than for an organization to exist whose objective to leach all the money they can also robs individuals of their joy!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Sung to Queen’s Another One Bites The Dust

    “Another One Blown For Good”

    Oh! Let’s go!

    We’re walking warily down the street
    Keeping cool, keeping it low
    Ain’t no sound but the sound of our feet
    Adrenaline? Ready to flow!

    Are you ready? Yes! I’m ready for this!
    Been ready for this for a year
    The van slows down, jump inside
    Hit the road with no fear

    Another One Blown For Good
    Another one blown for good
    And another one blown
    And another one blown
    Another one blown for good
    Hey! – you can get out too!
    Another one blown for good

    How do you think I’m going to feel inside
    Leaving everyone
    Mother, sister, father, brother
    Wife ‘n child, my son!

    But I’m ready, gotta get up and go
    I’m so beat down, I’m done!
    A train, a boat, a plane, a bus
    Racing out on the run

    Another One Blown For Good
    Another one blown for good
    And another one blown
    And another one blown
    Another one blown for good
    Hey! – you can get out too!
    Another one blown for good

    There are plenty of ways you can hurt a soul
    And bring ’em to the ground
    You can beat ’em, you can cheat ’em
    You can treat ’em bad, and kick ’em when they’re down

    But we’re ready! Yes we’re ready to blow
    We’re grabbing life by the hand
    We’re leaving and we’re not turning back
    Hear! Don’t misunderstand!

    Another One Blown For Good
    Another one blown for good
    And another one blown
    And another one blown
    Another one blown for good
    Hey! – you can get out too!
    Another one blown for good

    • EnthralledObserver

      Excellent! :)

    • dagobarbz

      This one song makes me wish we were still picketing here. I got the karaoke music and a little sound system that rocks.

      Back in the Chanology days, we woulda dressed up like Kiss, sang this, and confused a whole lot of different people.

      • MaxSpaceman

        oh that woulda been a rockin’ blast, dBarbz :-)

      • SexyNinjaMonkey

        I miss the Chanology days, accapella rick rolls outside the Sydney org were one of my faves.

        • dagobarbz

          It was an epic and historic time! Nobody in the history of ever had ever done a global raid. I liked reading the reports as they came in across the planet. Exciting times, it was! Still got me original mask. Bought it in 2008, February it were.

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      One jealous Monkey! Was thinking of doing revised words for that when I saw the title of the XSEAORG pic you posted. Excellent work, Max :)

    • shasha40

      By the time , ” Going Clear ” airs , the Bunkerittes will have an entire SP album coming out ! Awesome lyrics !

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      I’ve paid my dues
      Time after time.
      I’ve done my A to E
      But committed no crime.
      And bad mistakes ‒
      I’ve made a few.
      I’ve had my share of sand kicked in my face
      But I’ve come through.

      (And I need just go on and on, and on, and on)

      We are the SPs, my friends,
      And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end.
      We are the SPs.
      We are the SPs.
      No time for Xenusers
      ‘Cause we are the SPs of the world.

      I’ve taken my bows
      And my curtain calls
      You brought me fame and sympathy and everything that goes with it
      I thank you all

      But it’s been no bed of roses,
      No Freewinds cruise.
      I consider it a challenge before the whole human race
      And I ain’t gonna lose.

      (And I need just go on and on, and on, and on)

      We are the SPs, my friends,
      And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end.
      We are the SPs.
      We are the SPs.
      No time for Xenusers
      ‘Cause we are the SPs of the world.

      We are the SPs, my friends,
      And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end.
      We are the SPs.
      We are the SPs.
      No time for Xenusers
      ‘Cause we are the SPs.

  • God

    This here flyer will only cost your life, soul and sanity.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      Dear God, I enjoy your tweets.

    • Ben Franklin

      Why do I have to pay with my life, soul, and eternity?

    • Sid

      Father, Mom is pissed that you flooded the basement.

    • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

      Nice job on the fjords!

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        I’ve always liked fjords, gives a nice crinckly, baroque feel to a coastline :)

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    LRH Hall brings to mind the Pearl harbor visitor center.

  • DMSTCC

    This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day…f5

    • Juicer77

      XD

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      The desperate thrashing of an outdated ‘tech’, and a cult on the way out, hooray :)

    • Allie

      Getting desperate, huh? Davey

    • Ben Franklin

      I can’t blame them. They never saw or read this post.

      http://tonyortega.org/2015/03/11/20889/

    • Sid

      While the 12 million Scientologists are flooding their Ideal Orgs it’s amazing they have time to even publish this stuff.

      • Jgg2012

        What ideal org was that photo taken in?

        • Ben Franklin

          If you go to the site below you will see the same photo.

          http://maggienotmargaret.com/2011/04/page/2/

          • Mary Smith

            wow impressive you found the picture.

          • Jgg2012

            Typical Scientology–taking something that someone else created first.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Yeah, they really need to try out their material at the Comedy Store before taking it on the road:
      https://twitter.com/FreedomEthics/status/579427274312654848

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        So that’s how much $cieno–popcorn costs–no wonder they’re miserable all the time!

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          They do look like typical Clams, don’t they? Ha!

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        Now there is an idea. HBO could offer a Free test….errr showing of Going Clear and sit down dinner for all scientology staff. The showings could be in the idle orgs. I am sure Davey boy would be there to hold everyone’s passports and wallets in safe keeping. They could pass out Free tickets for a ride home to spend a vacation with family and long lost ones. Everybody wins. The stats might be straight up and vertical for all. How about it Davey boy?

        • Dusty Ayres

          You know that he’d never do it; he’d look for any way to blackmail people and then submit them to auditing or threats of being sent to the PRF instead.

      • Zana

        There were a LOT of people there both times I went…one at ARCLight and the other at the Cinerama Dome. I’ll be interested in seeing the numbers. Also… it was only put out so that the Documentary would be eligible for an Academy Nomination. The BIG audience will be on the 29th. :-)….. Yippee.

        • Tracy Schmitz

          if they showed in every major city in the u.s. there would be pretty full theatres and i suspect more then a few people who would see it more then once…

      • Dusty Ayres

        I just sent a Tweet back to them, and told them off.

    • Phil McKraken

      I’d bet that Going Clear, showing in just 3 theaters, has done more business than Battlefield Earth ever did in theaters.

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      First I laugh. Then the logical part of my brain tries to apply “logic” and “facts” and I get indignant that they are tweeting such easily refutable LIES. Then I remember these tweets are for those in the bubble only, and I get a little sad.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Those aren’t empty seats. Every one is occupied by Tom Cruise’s Body Thetans. And boy, are They pissed!

    • scottmercer

      Just a flat out, bald faced lie. But it’s just for staff benefit. They aren’t fooling anyone else.

    • 1subgenius

      The statement makes no sense. Supposed empty theaters don’t explain WHY its supposedly so unpopular.
      It would be like saying that “Very few people live in (X). Is it any wonder why people don’t move there?”
      It hurts my head.

      • richelieu jr

        “It hurts my head.”
        Is it any wonder you get such headaches there?

        • 1subgenius

          No, it’s all clear to me now.
          No wonder.

          • Robert Eckert

            ‘Can you imagine a clam sitting on a beach, opening and closing its shell very rapidly?’ (Make a motion with your thumb and forefinger of a rapid opening and closing.) The victim may grip his jaws with his hand and feel quite upset. He may even have to have a few teeth pulled.

      • Zana

        The photo doesn’t make sense…obviously it was shot AFTER a movie happened and BEFORE the ushers could clean up. This is not showing an “empty theater.” This is a theater between shows where someone left their drink in the seat when they left.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        well they are scientologists after all.. Hmm, curious what is the average level of education of those in the cult especially the ones doing the ridiculous stupidity p.r.?

    • Peggy oh!

      http://imgur.com/YMBvGXx

      http://imgur.com/70SIpWJ

      /I don’t have photoshop on my ipad…

    • Lurkness

      Gosh, their stupidity. It burns. Shows how little they know the business. For Gibney and HBO, any box office receipts are icing on the caek to the plus side, not any indication at all about losing a fortune. Second, as Ben Franklin points out below they continue their fraudulent ways by stealing the empty theater seat picture from another source. They really can’t help themselves from lying and deceiving. Ever. (refresh)

      • Zana

        Hilarious!! Thanks for the find!! :-)

    • JMasiulewicz

      When I was growing up my mother taught me not to lie because it was the wrong thing to do. Then my father took me aside and told me that my mother was right, but an even better reason not to lie was that if you lied you had to keep on lying because if you didn’t you’d eventually be found out and the results would be even worse than if you told the truth in the first place. Maybe it’s because what he told me is so ingrained in my mind that I find it so difficult to comprehend the constant, endless stream of lies told by the church to its members and to the public. I just don’t get it. What do they hope to accomplish other than a few more seconds of existence before it all comes crashing down.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        There’s no “they” in scientology. There’s only Dave. Sociopaths can’t change. It’s a concept that’s really hard to understand in crisis moments like this. But he really can’t help himself.

        • Zana

          Agreed. The Scorpion and the Frog.

      • One Human

        Your Dad’s words frame the LRH story perfectly!

      • Zana

        Yes. This is why it was so amazing to watch the clip out here earlier today of LRH lying that he only had 2 wives. As he said it, he kind of smirked as though he was enjoying lying so blatantly on camera and in front of his “followers.” When the interviewer asked what happened to his 2nd wife, he said, “I didn’t have a second wife.” Bizarre. Even the lie following the lie didn’t make sense.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I tried looking and could not find any reported numbers, but does anyone have a way to find out the current box office stats for Going Clear? I’d love to forward those along to these idiots.

      • richelieu jr

        Be sure and look at the per screen stats, not overall stack-ups…

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          And where would one find this? IMDB Pro? Who’s got the info?

          • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

            Forbes says it earned $60,800 on its first weekend from two screens, so $30,400 per screen — a pretty healthy draw.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Thank you. Any idea how this compares to other films within the documentary category?

            • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

              Not offhand, but Box Office Mojo could help there.

    • madame duran

      Jenny Linson: “Going Clear plays in empty theaters while the Hole is full of crawling ants daily. WHOO HOO!!! WE BEAT THOSE SPs HANDS DOWN!!!” (Scientology logic)

  • coonellie

    I’m not sure if this was posted before (I did try and go through all of the comments today…yes, I’m officially cross-eyed!), so here it is in case:

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways

    NPR – posted today, Mar 21.

    Basically, it’s a primer on libel law in the UK. The final line, “And although the Church of Scientology is easy to spot in London, the book and documentary about the church, Going Clear, are far less so.”.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Ouch. Millions of eyeballs are on Thom Cruize and this one is trending # 1 at this time on Yahoo.

    Looks like “disconnection” is being enforced on Cruize. Either by himself, “pressure,” or both. Certainly, he and his BBBB (best budd big being) have gone over what to do about this:

    • EnthralledObserver

      I just fast-forwarded to the “Oprah” of the 2020’s and was wondering what Suri’s comments would be regarding her father and $cientology. It’s hard to speculate, but I can’t imagine her memories will be fond.

  • Jgg2012

    When Anonymous first started protesting in 2008, Scientologists used to snicker that there were “only 50 (or 100, whatever it was) protesters here.” Well, 50 times 500 churches around the world equals 25,000 protesters each month, which was an astounding number for a group that just came into existence. How many Scientologists will be protesting outside theaters when Going Clear is shown? Will it be all 22 million of them?

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      They’ll be calling on the eleventy billion loyal $cientologists worldwide and from across the guhLAXee to protest against this vile pack of lies, made up by the bitter, defrocked apostates, and created by that directorial non–entity, Gibney! (edited)

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush
  • Cupcakes for Breakfast

    These pathetic attempts to protest, spread lies and tweet those ridiculous lies made me think of something that happened yesterday. My 11yr old daughter was riding her bike in the park. When she stopped for a moment, this teeny little guy on training wheels comes peddling up to her. “Hey!” he says- “I’ve got the fastest bike there is! I could beat you in a race!” She gave him a condescending look, says, “that’s nice” and rides away. Lol! That’s kinda how I picture DM and the protest of Going Clear. Boast about winning all you want- the truth of the doesn’t change- you are going down! :)

    • One Human

      Ooh, ooh , tell me that story again, I like it!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Was there any confirmation or debunking yet on the Arclight theater tickets being bought up by scientology the other day? The empty sat Fried Dumb Ethics tweet reminded me.

    • Lurkness

      The post I saw was by nottrue with a photo of an old article about them buying up tickets at Arclight to help the opening gross for a Tom Cruise movie, not Going Clear.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Ah thanks. Too bad DM can’t buy HBO, because you know he is climbing the walls trying to figure out a way. Poor baby.

        • aegerprimo

          Yeah “poor baby”

    • sumertin

      I think they had bought those tix a few years ago for MI3 as a treat for Staff and Sea Org and to help pump up box office revenue. I doubt they’d buy out tix for Going Clear, but I could be wrong.

  • Mark

    The more I look at the all-new super-duper ‘L Ron Hubbard Hall’, the more it reminds me of what you usually find piled up in alleyways behind supermarkets just before the dustmen come. Now I even find myself preferring the old ‘Adobe-Nazi’ design with a dome; at least it could have found a new life pretending to be a Victorian slipper-baths (refresh):

    • MaxSpaceman

      Downtown Clearwater FL, with this being built, becomes Scientology Town, USA.

      Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. What about that Aquarium? Is that going into Downtown? I hope !

      • Mark

        With any luck Shortarse will have exploded in a shower of shit before a single brick of this abortionate folly is laid.

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          Bahahaha “Shortarse exploding in a shower of shit”–visualising it now and loving it, thanks Mark :)

          • Mark

            I find contemplating that mental image a constant source of pleasurable consolation 😉

        • aegerprimo

          I hope!

      • Observer

        Scientology will agree to its being built so long as the only marine creatures in it are clams.

        • MaxSpaceman

          lulz :)

        • One Human

          And whales!

  • aegerprimo

    UGH! Why? I don’t think these people did their research. This is just like the plaque on LRH on the walls of Georgetown University.

    Scientology founder’s Phx home declared historic
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/12-news/2015/03/19/12-news-scientology-lron-hubbard-phoenix-camelback/24960351/

    • EnthralledObserver

      Nothing that a firebug pointed in the right direction can’t sort out.

      • Robert Eckert

        We should probably avoid saying such things out loud.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Agreed, especially now, although I understand passion flaring up for the end of this insanity.

          • Robert Eckert

            I do not disagree with EO’s sentiment.

        • EnthralledObserver

          But, but… I didn’t ‘say’ it out loud as I typed it!

          For the record, I am not a fire-bug, nor do I know one. 😉

    • Eileen

      Not Georgetown, George Mason U?

      • Chee Chalker

        George Washington university

      • aegerprimo

        We are both wrong. It is George Washington University that he attended for a short time.

  • nottrue

    They say come in and see for yourself…Well I came , I saw, and I’m getting the hell out of here….

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Chicago?

      • Chee Chalker

        Looks like it…

      • Freethinker

        Definitely.

  • http://princejesse53.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-future-is-here-and-im-feeling-good.html#comment-form Jesse Prince

    I just read Tom’s story about Miss Cabbage and Tom Cruise and I am nearly speechless! The cognitive dissonance has me feeling like I’ve gone through a worm-hole for the first time something. I just can’t wrap my wits around how people can stand to be around Miss Cabbage. The short answer is people can’t stand to be around this total nut job. His whole family has personally left the Sea Organization. Since the 80’s Miss Cabbage made no secret of the animosity he felt towards dead L Ron’s remaining family members and he has defrauded them out their inheritance. He is knowingly or unknowingly destroying every aspect of Scientology in his ignorance and arrogance. Watching Miss Cabbage talk is about as entertaining as watching someone throw up. The only comparison story I know about is what happened when Michael Jackson was being lured into Scientology. Miss Cabbage had all of the top managers in Scientology trying to do the choreography dance in Michael Jackson’s Thriller track. This lil moron get’s totally star struck and tries to give away Scientology. Tom Devo is right about Tom Cruise. It’s his turn to pay the piper and be held accountable.

    • Ben Franklin
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Woh, back up there, “Miss Cabbage had all of the top managers in Scientology trying to do the choreography dance in Michael Jackson’s Thriller track.” Saving this for your book, or is this a story you can share here? I, I can’t, no, I couldn’t imagine his topping Bohemian Rhapsody. But here you have laid down just that possibility at our feet. Intrigued as hell.

      • http://princejesse53.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-future-is-here-and-im-feeling-good.html#comment-form Jesse Prince

        I have written about this is the past and I will look for it. If I can’t find it I’m fine with writing it up again soon.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thank you, Jesse. And I can’t understand those at Int either, but then I can’t understand half of what I did in the SO either. Oh, imo it would be a real page turner in your book, too.

        • richelieu jr

          I’m with THDNE! Wow!

          • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

            Me three!

        • EnthralledObserver

          Haha… I have to read this anecdote… I hope you find it quick! :)

      • Dusty Ayres

        That’s not half as crazy as the Moonies trying to get Michael to perform at a concert they they would host in South Korea (as told in the book Michael Jackson: The Magic & The Madness.)

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      REFRESH for a top secret photo of dance rehearsal.

      • Allie

        Wonderful shoop!

    • Allie

      Thanks for the info about nut job Miss Cabbage. I can’t stop laughing imagining the top managers trying to dance to Jackson’s Thriller. Another example of Davey tryng to impress the celebs. My question is:
      was Davey doing the choreography as well. Jib Jab has Davey as quite the dancer.

    • Missionary Kid

      Let’s face it. COB really doesn’t care about $cientology. What he cares about is the power that being COB gives him.

      If you’ll notice, the emphasis was there when LRH was in charge to make money. Someone I used to know heard him speak when he was in Phoenix, and what he told the audience was that if they followed him, he’d make them very wealthy. Of course, that was the come-on.

      DM learned how to make money from LRH, but he runs on fear. He instills fear in the sea org workers and the rest of the staff in order to control them. He has no concept of how to be a real leader who inspires loyalty, as Hubbard did because he only saw Hubbard in his later years.

      Miscavige’s strategies for raising funds vary according to his whims. From the outside, it appears that he is always coming up with a new and different project for $cientologists to finance. The fact that projects aren’t finished before the minions are being hit with another project to donate to tells me that either they’re all scams or he’s really disorganized, or even that all he wants to do is keep the money rolling in from the whales.

      My theory is that Miscavige is an emotional cripple who never developed beyond the time that he joined, but he has a lot of power.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      as i’ve posted before more then a few times, all ANYONE whether they know ANYTHING about scientology or not has to do is go to youtube and watch miscavige’s 1 and only interview waaay back in 1992 with ted koppel! how ANYONE could be around this guy or listen to him speak for 5 minutes is UTTERLY beyond me! with his way too perfect coiffed hair, expensive suit, mannerisms, voice inflection and tone, etcetera he comes across as the biggest lying scumbag con artist used car salesman, late at night informercial charlatan, self absorbed jerk a-hole on the planet! and THIS is the man who T.C. calls his best bud? really? REALLY? “oh wait, don’t tell me in real life and in private life, miscavige is the total opposite right! a good decent moral caring “religious” leader full of humbleness and piety and helping others! if you only knew him! UH HUH!…

  • Peggy oh!

    DM: Try and find ze trap door…

    Or is there more zan vone?

    Where to stand you may be asking yourself?

    Maybe right about now you might razzer to be SCOHB? Eh?

    http://imgur.com/HC1IRsr

    • Zana

      Those chairs are so bizarre. Deliberately designed to make people waiting to see DM very uncomfortable. They look like some kind of implement of torture.

      • Missionary Kid

        The fact that there’s little or no slope on the seat downward from the front to back means that a person has to basically hold himself on the seat, particularly with the back sloped back like it is means that if a person leans back, he’s going to slide off the seat if he leans back.

        • Zana

          Good catch. You’re right. Thanks for noticing. !

          • Missionary Kid

            It fits $cientology. The chairs don’t let you relax, and if you try to, you slip off.

      • Peggy oh!

        There is nothing of human comfort anywhere! I think those chairs may actually be levers for the hidden trap doors in the floor… :)

  • Tory Christman

    Thank you Tom DeVocht! It takes great courage,even though I know you and you’d laugh at that…I believe it’s true, for people who were close to this megalomaniac (really both “dave” and TC) to speak out and tell the truth about what went down. I *greatly* appreciate this!

    “He explained his strategy to me this way. “Cruise isn’t smart enough
    to run the church like I can, but he has the presence and could be my
    Inspector General, and people would respect and listen to him. Because
    Tom is a very good actor, he could carry out my exact commands and
    directions like a puppet, and that would be OK with me. He wouldn’t even
    have to think. Then we’d be getting somewhere.”

    He looked at me sternly and insisted, “I’m damned serious about this and I think he’ll do it.”

    ROTFLOL! “Cruise isn’t smart enough to run the church like I can”?
    WHAT? Running it into the ground? I’m not an Indie, nor do I want to have *anything*
    to do with Scientology. However, I occasionally laugh at the very thought of Ron Hubbard
    returning and seeing what a F*** up mess Miscavige has make of all of this.

    Basically No more “tech” being run: A huge interest of Hubbard’s.
    Basically their Div 6 (where they get new people in) is crashed and burned, and “dave” could
    care less.
    Hubbard had a term he created for things: “MEST” =Matter, Energy, Space, Time.
    “dave” is totally into MEST…not “theta” (spiritual) as Hubbard said he was. (Ok, granted, no doubt
    Hubbard was too, but let’s face it: Miscavige is out the roof on MEST.

    Celebrities: yes, Hubbard created the idea of Celebrity and he knew the value of Celebrities.
    However …..the way “dave” adores Tom Cruise, follows him around like a lost puppy dog?
    Pfft. Again, I think “Ron” would kick his ass.

    Even the Net: WTF. I’ve said forever, “If Ron Hubbard was so “OT”…why didn’t he predict the
    Internet? He built and guess what? “If you build it they will come” does NOT apply when it’s well
    known to be a con game. I don’t think “dave” is factoring this and many other things in. All great for
    us, very, very bad for those still “in”.
    BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN~!! Love to all :) Tory/Magoo

    • richelieu jr

      I thought Gibney was pretty spot-on on Conan when he said that DM’s business model was uniquely successful- the less Scientologists, the more money he makes because there are less services and product to sell, therefore he can invest in real-estate.

      Once he is the only Scilon left it will all be his, after all.

      And if he dies first? Well, then he still ‘won’ didn’t he? (at least in his miserable, cash before truth or human beings book)

    • aegerprimo

      Um… I think if LRH could actually come back and see the state of his church (er…. cult) he would be impressed by how rich it is – what is it, worth 3 billion? Don’t forget, LRH wasted people just like DM has/does. He only cared about the money, like DM has/does. LRH would not be alarmed about the shrinking number of $cientologists or people in the orgs. And like DM he would only care if the whales could fork over money in the words of “source” himself… “MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY.”

      And as you say so brilliantly Tory – TICK TOCK

  • cathy from encino

    I’m in SF now to go see Going Clear! Finally! Was going to pay photo but it’s too large for the website.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Have a great time!!!

      • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

        Hi!

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          So good to have the connection!

    • cathy from encino

      Just came out of the showing. Wow! As it went on I was getting more and more tense… and I knew what was going to happen! Amazingly done. Will write more when I get home.

    • cathy from encino

      I went with another Never In who didn’t know much about $cientology. Her conclusion:
      1. This is the best documentary I have ever seen
      2. Scientology is awful

      Given how fast it’s imploding, I do hope Gibney gives a follow up.

      Theater was about half full. No empty rows like in that stock photo.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    The Morning After…

    http://i.imgur.com/0GpoT2e.jpg?1

    • EnthralledObserver

      I do wonder how cyclone Mosey is shaping up too… is she developing into a Cat 5 – just to add insult to injury? 😀

      • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

        I sure hope so.

      • beauty for ashes

        I do love Mosey’s quick mind and sharp tongue. I almost wish she would represent herself. But you know, scientology!

    • Allie

      Brilliant, THDNE! This is a dream come true!

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Creative and clever and makes you think tweet!

    • Robert Eckert

      And you’ll especially enjoy it because you’ll have the whole theater to yourself!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Due to word spreading about that scary big screen close-up on Hubbard’s rotten teeth, no doubt. When they zoomed in, I swear I started getting woozy. Watching it on the smallest screen available may not be such a bad idea, now that I think about it!

  • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

    Alex on CNN giving a great interview about the Scilon smear videos. He is full of win. I also read the Uproxx reviews of the smear videos, which is hilarious. Not so hilarious was my reaction to Paul Haggis’ sister’s unbelievably horrid smearing of her brother. Her. Own. Brother. That is how evil Hubbard’s con is. Disconnection writ large across the screen.
    I can’t imagine anyone watching that and not thinking she was a total (insert favorite perjorative expletive here).

    https://youtu.be/MxZgsmydS3g

    • Robert Eckert

      It was nice of Uproxx to watch them all so I don’t have to.

    • Ben Franklin

      Alex comment about empty buildings was brilliant, just goes to show how mindless some of those people are. They do things without even thinking them through.

    • Zana

      Where is the Uproxx reviews of the smear videos. ?? I’d like to read them. And where is Paul Haggis’ sister’s comment?

      • Zana

        Never mind! I found it. thank you.

      • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45
        • Zana

          OMG!! I’m halfway through her video and it’s so disgusting and 1.1 that I can’t even get through it. I am going to watch … but it’s truly like trying to eat poop. Ugly. Even so… I LOVE the reporter’s take on the movies. Hilarious. !! Love his sense of humor.

        • Zana

          OMG… I watched the sister’s whole thing. The ugly vitriol coming out of it is truly astonishing…with the heavy handed music and the punitive dominatrix audio over. Truly Co$ all over the place. Laughable..except that they are serious. This is not foot-bullet time…this is shoot off your leg time. Yikes.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Thank you Artoo, I hadn’t seen this. I saw the smear video with the ants but I cannot bring myself to watch a smear video featuring his sister.

    • Ruby

      “It’s interesting to me, that a church, which is a religious organization, in theory, would spend so much time trying to provoke hatred…”
      Alex…you and me both.
      Thank you of all you have done. I am looking forward to March 29.

  • funnybroad

    LRH Hall.

    • Allie

      Bwahahahahaha!

    • Ben Franklin

      That is enough kool-aid to last a billion years

    • Chee Chalker

      Oh yea!!!!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I in-cyst you let me top off your glass.

  • Eivol Ekdal
    • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

      I have no idea why the theta is in the title, but I am proud to call Gary Stockdale a friend.

  • outraged

    Tom isn’t a victim, he is one of the perpetrators.

    • Ben Franklin

      What Cruise refers to as generosity and kindness shown to him by Miscavige, is in fact blood, sweat, and tears shed by Sea Org workers working day and night seven days a week with no vacations.

      • outraged

        The blood sweat and tears that Cruise has NEVER acknowledged.
        He ignores the death and torture of the peasants at his feet just like a medieval warlord.

        • Ben Franklin

          Cruise enjoys the meals at his table but doesn’t bother to find out who cooked the meals or how the meals got there.

          • outraged

            He is an Overload of the First Degree.
            We are the peasants.

  • beauty for ashes

    I made this in response to an earlier comment from I-Betty. It was a great quote from the debate about CCHR.
    I erased the label on the bottle, but I think it really needs one. Anyone want to play?
    It is however beyond my shoop ability as I am only shoop level 1, and everything I don’t understand should be explained on shoop level 2 (as soon as I get the money for it!!!!!!)
    I also included an original. Special thanks to Robert E. for retro-futurism inspiration. ETA F5

    • Peggy oh!

      Visitoril?

      • beauty for ashes

        Hi Peggy I don’t think I said hello yet, Welcome Neighbor!

        • Peggy oh!

          Hi back! And thanks! I’ve been reading the bunker (but not the comments section) sporadically since I first saw Tony on Alison Hope Weiner’s show a year or two back…but I starting reading comments here a while ago as my excitement for Going Clear and my inability to wait was killing me! Cool group here!

          • Baby

            Welcome Peggy.. Yeah we are a Cool.. CRAZY group.. Wonderfully weird combination.. xo

            • Peggy oh!

              This is the kindest comment section anywhere on the Internet too! I didn’t check it out sooner because comment sections often leave me Sick to my stomache. Uh oh. I think I just let scientology know my ruin. :/

            • Baby

              Hahaha.. We are a rag tag bunch of people who want to make a change.. You my dear..You are one of us.. xoo love baby

            • Peggy oh!

              Thank you! I am honored!

              I hope there is something I can do to help. If nothing else, add one more voice…

            • Baby

              You just show up sweetie.. We will love your voice.. xo

          • beauty for ashes

            You’ll have to forgive me, I love shopping for avatars when someone doesn’t have one yet. The first thing I thought was Peggy Olson on Madmen played by Elizabeth Moss (also a scientologist) As always you’re free to pick any or discard them all, its fun for me either way!

            • Peggy oh!

              Ooh these are great! How to choose? Yep, my name came from Peggy (and Jackie Oh! Combined) for a mad men forum from long ago I think. I had to dig out my old disquisition acct to comment here.

              Which makes me so sad. I loooove mad men. Peggy was one of my favorites but as I’ve been learning more about scientology, I just can’t overlook that in her anymore.

              I used to have this dream that her mad men friends would have a going clear screening/intervention for her, but recently learning more about how to intervene with someone in a cult, and reading about Manuela Olivieros that fantasy is receding.

            • beauty for ashes

              Yeah! I’m glad I could help. I love Peggy anyway too! In her case I’m going to grant her unconditional positive regard. :)
              I am stuck on that idea of how to intervene, because likely it also is closely tied in the person’s “ruin” as well. I hope all in good time. I particularly like Steve Hassan’s website called “freedom of mind” It helps make some sense out of a lot of the confusion by telling people’s personal stories. Oh and Mark Bunker’s site Xenu tv.

            • Peggy oh!

              I’m very lucky. I live no where near any scientology centers, a small group tried to start here years ago but never took, so I personally don’t know anyone in. Or anyone in a cult of any kind, thank xenu.

              Probably the chord that struck with me was the similarity to domestic abuse. It’s so similar, but on steroids. Beyond Heartbreaking…

    • Sherbet

      Do you believe how sexist the original ad is? Jeez.

      • beauty for ashes

        Yeah it’s totally sexy!

        • Sherbet

          Even in the future, the job of cleaning up is the responsibility of women. I repeat: Jeez.

          • beauty for ashes

            It’s 1968 too, I originally thought it was earlier. Everything is marketed to us anyway because we also do all the smart shopping!

            • Sherbet

              I hope my granddaughters aren’t mopping with Lestoil on the moon. It doesn’t take a female chromosome to use a mop.

            • beauty for ashes

              If anything they’ll be vacuuming, the moon’s pretty dusty.

            • Sherbet

              LOL. I’ll vacuum if the other astronauts will cook.

        • Chee Chalker

          What’s wrong with being sexy??
          – Nigel Tufnel

  • The Dude

    Not too sure if this is my last post. I will lurk. But it seems to me the family atmosphere is gone. Capt. Howdy is nowhere to be seen.
    Dude out

    • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

      I have no idea what transpired, but I would hate to see you go.

      • The Dude

        Disillusioned. Uninspired . I guess I am a little depressed. I need a new obsession.

        • beauty for ashes

          Do you miss Stacy too, what happened to her?

          • Sid

            I wondered about her also. I hope all is okay.

          • The Dude

            She was my number one fan.

            • Sherbet

              Nah, we’re all fans.

            • beauty for ashes

              I get it. I’m not as smart as most people either, so I get that. And I’m a little crazy artsy and silly.
              It kind of sounds like you are depressed, and maybe you do need to feed your life and your soul. Anyway, I’m gonna shut up now. Get some good rest. :)

            • The Dude

              The Dude can get in the dumps too.

            • Sherbet

              Does your music help?

            • The Dude

              To tell the truth. Full of self-doubt. No matter how many of the the people I respect and love tell me otherwise. It happens.

            • Sherbet

              It’s been a long, tiring winter for you. Spring is coming. The Sox will be in good shape. The little Dude loves you. Take him to Castle Island when it warms up. Listen to music if you don’t feel like playing.

            • The Dude

              Funny that you say that. I was thinking that would be a good spring walk(Hug).

            • Sherbet

              Hug back atcha. Do I know Massachusetts, or do I know Massachusetts? LOL

            • beauty for ashes

              I just found Howdy, he was in disguise! (originally designed by baby) F5

            • beauty for ashes

              Crap I was so excited to try to make you laugh!! no really F5 now!

            • Sherbet

              I wish. We all wish.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I get that, Dude. It doesn’t matter how many people try to talk you out of it, it is how you feel, it is real because you feel it. I am sorry you have self-doubt but remember, that too will change.

            • Sherbet

              I read something about depression just today: “Remember it’s a chapter, not the whole book.” Man, oh, man, I can remember thinking my depression was a never-ending book as long as several encyclopedias put together. But it always passed, thanks to good therapy and good meds.

            • vicariousthrill

              Dude, you aren’t alone in that feeling. I think many people just hide it well. Being tired or stressed makes it worse.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              S.A.D. or something more serious? If S.A.D., get one of those daylight lights. I hear they help.

            • Sherbet

              I don’t like your first paragraph, Missy. You’re smart, clever, funny, and kind. And artsy.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Sherb’s right, Beauty, your first paragraph is no good.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            Yeah. Where is Stacy?! Is it semester break? Is she grading papers?

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Hang on, Dude.
          Solid rocket boosters deploying in T-minus 8 days…

          • Sid

            If it was seconds instead of days you could write that on a bathroom wall.

        • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

          Step away for a while. A vacation is good. I don’t think the 50 feet of snow is helping either. Whatever you decide, be well, Dude!

    • Sid

      I understand that but your contributions are valuable. We’re fighting a $billion dollar corporation that commits cruel acts daily. It will take a big ‘family’ to get it done.

      • The Dude

        Thanks Sid. You are a good guy.

        • Sid

          Thanks but I have to admit also a bit selfish. I want my kids back and I fear the only way for that to happen is for Scientology to fail.

          • The Dude

            There was a person here that made me think that I was wasting time and blog space with my shit.
            I don’t want to waste anyone’s time.
            I am not half as smart as most of the people here.
            Humbling a bit.
            I wish you could have your kids too. I can’t think of a night I couldn’t tuck in the little dude.

            • Sid

              Well if you can’t stay for us uninspiring types, stay for the children.

            • The Dude

              My fight does not stop here. $cio is a blight on this world. It needs to die. But I feel this is time for me take a break from all this.
              Life needs to be lived.
              I will be around.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              One week bro…one week. Your ass better be back here on the 29th.

            • The Dude
            • Sherbet

              Dude, I can understand. Sometimes it seems we’re not moving fast enough, and the cos monster is still out there. Do what you have to do. Just know I’ll miss my Man on the South Shore.

            • Chee Chalker

              Don’t let some arrogant person make you second guess yourself! You’re The Dude!
              And no one here knows that much more than anyone else……we’re all just guessing at the next moves of an insane miniature sociopath……..for all anyone knows, DM will wake up tomorrow and announce he is hanging up his lederhosen and calling it quits.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              “There was a person here that made me think that I was wasting time and blog space with my shit. ”

              Words to live by Dude…
              (refresh)
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              http://www.artwallpaperhi.com/thumbnails/detail/20121018/the%20dude%20the%20big%20lebowski%201920×1040%20wallpaper_www.artwallpaperhi.com_10.jpg

            • The Dude

              You guys are right! FUK’EM!

            • Intergalactic Walrus
            • The Dude

              I AM The Dude!
              F5

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Who gives a shit what one person says?
              If your posts were a problem then everyone would be complaining, we aren’t exactly gentle or subtle or in giving our opinion here.

              If you need a break from the bunker and some peace and quiet that’s one thing, but if one person doesn’t like what you have posted then tell them to go blow a porcupine and then ignore them.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Wait a minute Dude, I do not remember anyone implying your comments were a waste of time, I really don’t. Everyone here has something to contribute. Even me, and I don’t shoop, write haiku, keep track of things online, I can’t even be sure I can get my new HBO subscription to work. You at least have good music to share with us! But we are all in this together until this cult goes down and Sid gets his kids back, I get my family member back, and all the broken disconnected families are made whole again.

            • Donna Cline Sargent

              someone was a real jerk and said nasty stuff about his music,but i think his music is awesome. i don’t get why ppl have to be jerks. maybe to try to make themselves feel better and cuz they are jealous.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Thanks Donna, that sucks.

            • The Dude

              I lost my temper. I am ashamed.
              I have struggled for a long time with my temper.
              Life. Love. And my son have curbed it. But it rears it’s ugly head when I am at my edge.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I have done things I am ashamed of (not anger issues, just being stupid or thoughtless) and wanted to leave or hide so I sure do understand that feeling,

            • Donna Cline Sargent

              i don’t think you should be ashamed at all i thought you were spot on. what they said was very nasty,i was shocked at what they said not you.you were goaded into it. hind-site is always 20/20. so don’t let it bother you. romenesco (who ever) should be the one who should be ashamed, not you.and if there is a next time do it different if you feel you need to. so Rock On Dude ! :)

            • The Dude

              The Dude will persevere.”WINK”!

            • The Dude

              romanesco. Little troll. Got under my skin so bad I am steamed!
              You are a nice person though.
              Very kind to me

            • Sherbet

              Well, I’m usually a very polite older woman, but it’s 1 a.m., so let me say right out loud: SCREW HIM (or her).

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I missed that. I know that the trolls can really be irksome and there have been others who left because of being battered by trolls. I am sorry to hear it. But romanesco is nothing, a twat, we don’t need him. We need you.

            • The Dude

              Funny! I was going to say twat, but I thought profanity might take away something from my rant.

            • Allie

              I remember that. Quite over-the-top and nasty. Just let it slide off your back.
              You’ve got postings to do, Dude.

            • vicariousthrill

              I thought I was the only one who felt that way! Please stay.

            • The Dude

              You can learn so much. Jeff Hawkins is a good place to start. I will stay.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Yay, Dude. Okay now I can go to bed in peace. Sweet dreams.

    • Chee Chalker

      Well everyone needs a break from the family now and again. Please continue to post when you feel like it. I have enjoyed your contributions.
      And, as a wise TV sitcom once said….”you take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life….”.
      Cheerio Dude!

    • EnthralledObserver

      We’ll miss you if you go, and welcome you back with open arms when you return. Seriously… how could you go for long without your Bunker fix and interacting with all of us?! Hugs and Good vibes! :)

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      i always look forward to your posts and i love your music that you share. i hope you will still share them once in awhile. i have been going thru kinda the same thing and been off my facebook for a few months. gotta take care of you first. but hope you won’t be gone too long. :) and thank you for always being nice to me.

      • The Dude

        Aww! I am just feeling down. But all you guys made me feel a little better.
        Thank you all.
        And Donna, I want you to know that your kindness is a reason to stay. You are very sweet!

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          thanx,we all get a little down once in awhile and then get hugs from our friends to feel better.you are a favorite here because you are a good person,even though i don’t know you personally,i can tell by how you talk and treat others. there are always a few ass’s and bullies and i think most everyone here knows who they are. ha. taking down Scientology is such a good cause, i pretty much learn every thing here and pass it on to friends and family to help bring more awareness.and the family vibe here helps alot. big hugs all around.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            hugs to you Donna!

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          I am sorry you are feeling down. Do you think it is partly the weather? You guys in Massachusetts got hit so hard the past couple of months. Keep playing your music and hang in there. Nothing is forever, you will feel better.

        • Allie

          Dude, I haven’t been around the Bunker very long, but I have always enjoyed your posts, and your humor and snark. I hope you are feeling all the love from everyone. You’ve had a tough winter with all the snow and you’ve worked very hard through it all. So you deserve a break. But don’t stay away too long. Wishing you good days ahead.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Donna I agree, you need to take care of yourself first. It can also be quite distressing to be reading about the evils perpetrated by this cult, and I can understand needing a break. I also advise rest, water, good food, and fresh air – if you are stuck in the doldrums of winter, try to get away or at least visualize spring if you can.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Dude, do not tell me you are only here for Captain Howdy! You can’t just leave, not before the big party March 29. Anyway, I hope that Howdy is getting medical tests and treatment and will join us again soon.

      • The Dude

        You are a sweet one too. I am just dumping on myself.
        I guess we all need a “Love Bomb” every now and then.
        Thanx!

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Here is your Love Bomb from all your Bunker friends. Thank you for sharing your music, your experiences, and your thoughts. All of us at the Bunker are a family. I have met 4 Bunkeroos in the past week (because of the movie in the theaters) and it is a good feeling. It meant a lot to meet them in person. If I were in Massachusetts I would go to one of your shows and have a drink with you.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Dude, sometimes it takes balls to sick around in the Bunker. But we all know you’ve got em!
          (refresh)
          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9e/15/9e/9e159e59603d12d916c986f065f552a9.jpg

        • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

          Well, do what you need to do, if you do. Sing out from time to time.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcG1JNpazN4

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      My dear Brother Shamus, The Dude must abide. Don’t let the fucking amateurs getcha down.

      • The Dude

        Ah! My dear Sir Hemet! Fret not. The support of my friends here have brought up my spirits!
        I may take a break, but I will be back!

        • Sherbet

          That’s all we can hope for.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Take a break if you must but you had better be back by March 29!!!

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          Sometimes you eat the bar and sometimes the bar eats you, but nothing is fucked here, dude. See you further on up the trail. It’s just good just knowing you’re out there. We’ll be here waiting for you, brother.

    • Shelly Britt Corrias

      I hope you stay, if for no other reason than your name is the same as my beloved kitteh. Seriously, I’m not a regular regular and haven’t been here except a few drive-bys lately, but I’ve seen enough through time to know you would be missed. And there’s nothing like The Bunker. xo

      • The Dude

        You have a cat named “The Dude”?

        • Shelly Britt Corrias

          I do. He was basically feral and we adopted each other. This is The Dude chilling in the sink.

          • The Dude

            Awesome!

  • Sydjazz

    News from australia. Chennel 10 now showing scientology ads. Ugh. People not happy.

    • EnthralledObserver

      OMG. I don’t watch much t.v. as it’s owned and operated by the tribe of children in my house 😉 so I have no idea if we’re getting them up here too. Might keep a better eye out for any.

      • Sydjazz

        They were on during i’m a celebrity. So one of them must be a scion i guess

    • Sir_Real

      E-gads, I thought Oz was one place these bastards couldn’t air their ads. Guess money trumps everything.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • beauty for ashes

      If scientology is hiding anything in this video, Will Smith looks pretty smugly happy about it. Meanwhile Tom Cruise looks PISSED, and sweaty, and a little scared. Is this foreshadowing Wally?

      • Intergalactic Walrus
      • Intergalactic Walrus

        And on Twitter, this story “Suppressive Person? What? Scientology Loves Katie Holmes LOL” is still being retweeted all over the place today from different re-postings on various websites. Yeesh! What’s gonna happen after the 29th? http://www.thesuperficial.com/katie-holmes-suppressive-person-scientology-going-clear-03-2015

        • beauty for ashes

          Haaaaaaa!!!!
          “Ever since her divorce – That required burners and some James Bond shit to pull off. – Katie Holmes has always believed Scientology considers her a suppressive person. Probably because Tom Cruise specifically said the words, “You’re a suppressive person,” before hopping in his bodyguard’s Baby Bjorn and yelling, “TELEPORTATION, BITCH.”

    • Baby

      Tony said that Will Smith is NOT a Scientollllllone .. he has credible sources to back it up Wally..

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Until he does an credible interview explaining what exactly his and his family’s connection is/has been with the CO$, I’ll remain suspicious about that. Don’t judge me Baby, because us walruses are prone to smell something fishy in these kind of situations. 😉

        • Baby

          Hahahah Girl who is a baby that is smoking to judge.. smooches

    • Phil McKraken

      One quibble: An e-meter is not an “unreliable lie detector.” No, it is just a galvanometer. A polygraph is an unreliable lie detector.

  • cdub

    wow their own hall, they should be proud. bingo and pancake breakfast, worship meetings, they have arrived!

    • Sherbet

      Don’t forget the free soup kitchen.

      • coonellie

        You’re awake? So sorry Sher. I hope you get some sleep soon.

  • Toni m

    Mr DeVocht this is the second time in lest then a week that you are the center on one of Mr Ortega’s post. I truly admire your courage. I saw the classic movie The Desert Fox this week. Germany was losing the war and hitler was making stupid decisions, many around him saw it but in his psychotic mind he could do no wrong. He remind me of dm, the fair game against you and other is backfiring on him. He don’t want to see that the people that lived close to him have a lot of interesting damaging stories to tell and they are not afraid anymore. Attack the attacker can go both ways and the best weapon you all have are the things you know. You can and you are willing to use this weapon to defend yourself. The possible consequences to dm, well, we all know what happened to hitler at the end. Be safe, Be happy. I hope the separation from your family will end soon. Thank you so much for your courage.

    • beauty for ashes

      Toni, I don’t know if you’ve had the pleasure of seeing this video from Panopea, but she has several brilliant takes on this particular meme on her YouTube channel. Enjoy!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7u8u_tVjFw

      • Toni m

        I like Panopea videos and photos. I suscribe to her YouTube site and the site where her photos are is in my favorites. She is extremely creative and she is a great asset (like all of you) to this site. Her work is to be seen over and over again. Thank you for putting her video here.

        • beauty for ashes

          Oh good. Your post just made me remember that one particular to go search it out again. And it was funnier than I remembered :) Sorry if I did not recognize you as a regular!

  • Baby

    OMG.. Announcing..TOMORROW IS MY LAST DAY AT WORK.. I’m done.. I’m tired..too unorganized and I left with MY HAIR ON FIRE.. DONE….

    They don’t know it yet.. Never Did that before.. not given 2- month notice.. but MEH.. I miss you guys too much to be away.. So after tomorrow.. I’ll be back..

    Unless I walk out early … sigh..xoxo love baby

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Good for you Baby. GTFO! You don’t need that shite at your place in life.

      • Baby

        I think I went over the top when I asked the 4 cooks/ chefs in the kitchen to empty my trash for me because it was too heavy and everyone ignored me.. I kept repeating it over and over UNTIL

        I screamed..” WHO IN THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO BLOW IN THIS GOD DAMN PLACE TO GET MY TRASH EMPTIED.. ” They looked at me like I had done lost my mind..and kept on working..

        I even told my hubby when I got home ..and he said.. ” Well, that wasn’t necessary..” hahhahaha

        I left a FULL garbage can.. I didn’t give a shit..

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Baby it sure sounds like a good move to get away from there. Good for you.

          • Baby

            Free.. I am so close to not going in tomorrow.. OMG…

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Do it! What are they gonna do? Give you a bad recommendation for your resume? You need a job at the Clearwater Starbucks.

            • Baby

              Shit they won’t even give me the Bathroom key there.. Give me a good excuse for tomorrow..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Dog ate your homework.
              Husband got a fish hook caught in his…fill in the blank.
              Car broke.
              Hair caught on fire.
              Squirrel busters are at your door.
              Jason Beghe proposed to you.
              You’re opening your own restaurant…across the street….with the chef who left.

            • Baby

              OMG..hahaahahahah I love your last 2 the best..

              I DIDN’T EVEN COMMENT ON JASON’S POST……….ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH

              I think I’ll call in OLD..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Please tell me you saw the Mangina clip of Jason posted yesterday. If not, go find it. You will die!

            • Baby

              I saw it before.. Good Lord.. He was something else in the part..

            • beauty for ashes

              That is a good excuse. I mean they should have given you a freaking tiara!

            • Baby

              WITH DIAMONDS! xoxo

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Well, don’t expect ME to take out the trash either. Bossy ass baby.

          • Baby

            hahahah .. I admit my bossiness.. I OWN it.. Ohhh I forgot to tell you ..the CHEF walked out too.. Yep..

            ( He was a big shot chef who worked in Paris ..) HE was a HUGE loss..( Think Gordon Ramsey!)

        • TheMirrorThetan

          Haha. That’s exactly what I would have said to them with a few more fucks thrown in.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            I think there were no more fucks left to give.

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Good one. LOL.

          • Baby

            Pooky.. I was soooooooooooooooooooooo mad.. I MEAN MAD.. Who needs that crap?

            • TheMirrorThetan

              You don’t need that crap, fuck-em. Don’t bother going back, Baby.
              They are lucky I wasn’t there If they had ignored me some of the crap from the rubbish bin would have hit them in the back of the head. Let the bastards ignore that.

            • Baby

              I KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WAH, WAH..WAH.. errrrrrrgh.. When I get mad like that I just see red..

        • The Dude

          I would have taken it out for you “Crazy Old Lady”!
          And you know I work there.
          You would be a perfect salad person!
          Perky and outspoken. Keep the cooks laughing!
          I would take your garbage out anytime!

          • Baby

            Awwww.. I think the** PERKY ***the cooks were looking for wasn’t my personality Dude..

            Thanks Honey.. The trouble with working on this ISLAND.. is everyone..I mean EVERYONE is on ISLAND TIME.

            At home yes..Island Time always.. AT Work? You can’t run a business that way..

            I can’t believe the Big Shot Chef walked out before me.. WOW.. He WAS HOT.. PHEW

            • The Dude

              I asked a Chef in Marco Island that was from Chicago,why all the help in Fla is from the East? He told me that all the locals can’t work like us. We work. And then work more.

            • Baby

              YEP.. That is exactly it Dude.. No comparison.. None at all.. they aren’t even embarrassed when they don’t show up..

              And the bosses will greet them with open arms and not ask questions..No work ethics..NONE So the rest of the staff have to scramble around covering their asses..

              I was raised in the bar/ restaurant my dad owned.. and his motto..

              ” If you have time to lean you have time to clean..” I break my ass and the person beside me has his/ her arms folded saying..” I’M TIRED..I’M HUNGRY..when’s break?”

              What the hell is a break in a busy kitchen..? hahahhaha..

          • Baby

            Oh dude.. I would have Loved to have worked with you! xox baby

        • Allie

          Good for you, Baby. You don’t need to take shit like that. You’re too kind to be treated like that. And we’ve missed you in the Bunker. More free time now. Yay!

          • Baby

            Allie.. You are right..I don’t! I’ll go in 4hrs.. and leave.. and then I’m free to be with you guys.. Yay..xo

    • coonellie

      I’m not sure what I missed, but you seem too kind and empathetic to deal with work that causes you such grief. Blessings to you on your way out the door.

      BTW, you have a special place in my heart…I have twin sisters, twin best friends and twin God daughters.

      • Baby

        Awwwwwwwwwwwwww wow.. Good for you coonellie.. Twins run in our family.. My grandmother is a twin and she had 5 children 3 of which had twins..

        Thanks coone.. Well If you think I’m kind and empathetic ( thank you) don’t read my post to L. Wrong.. ( sorry) I am still Fired up..

        • coonellie

          Heck, I read it, but next to BTN, you’re a veritable school girl :)

          • Baby

            Hahahhaha.. Yes..she is absolutely SHOCKING..BAwwwwwwwwhahahhahahhaa..

        • coonellie

          And since I have you and CH is not around (and this goes for Beauty, L Wrong and Sherb) I really think Todd T is not legit. Reminds me of our catfish from last year. Too many inconsistencies. Scares me.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Quick, somebody mark this down, in case Coon is right….or wrong. 😉

          • Baby

            Really? coone.. I have missed any signs of this .. He has always had my back.. seriously I believe you have misunderstood.. He is really a good guy and I have posted with him for years..

            He is a good guy who loves animals and wants to bring Scientology down like the rest of us..

            Someone thought I was a troll once.. but Todd.. he’s legit coone.. xo

            • coonellie

              Well, I’ll reserve judgment since you vouch for him. But let me sat that there have been a few times when he’s written stuff that makes the hair on my neck itch. Growing up under a pyschopath gives me a strange antenna. Then again, I’ve been known to be wrong.

            • Pan-Deterrentism

              Just to add to what Baby said, Todd also went to view “Going Clear” with Artoo45 and Freeminds in SF. So Im sure he is legit. From readng and lurking, he has also had some very colorful experiences in life that may give some people the heebiejeebies, but I’m sure he has run into some interesting people as well. From what I have read, he’s a good guy.

            • coonellie

              I’ve had some “very colorful experiences” as well. I am happy to be wrong. Just remember, our catfish also met with Bunkerites who vouched for her legitimacy…until she was exposed. Capt. Howdy had known but no one believed him.

            • Baby

              coone..I did NOT believe our Catfish for one minute.. She knew that I knew..

            • beauty for ashes

              What’s the story on her? Did she manage to get anything from anyone?

            • Baby

              We are NOT allowed to talk about it EVAH.. sigh ( and yes)

            • beauty for ashes

              Sorry Baby, You wanna share some cheese and crackers? I got muenster and whole grain saltines.

            • Baby

              Yummy thanks Beauty.. Yeah.. Tony put the Fear of God in us..cause we wouldn’t let it go.. and he said..” NO MORE! ” and the rest is history

            • beauty for ashes

              Probably just as well. **munchmuncnchmunch**Mmhmm.

            • coonellie

              Too many…almost everyone believed

            • Pan-Deterrentism

              I just read your response to BFA, and you definitely bring up valid points, and I’m not blaming you for being on guard. I make my assumptions from what I have read which is not a lot. I also have not run into a psychopath in my life, so I would put money on your assumptions over my own any day mam.

            • coonellie

              My mom was one. Made me learn strange lessons. My years of therapy also helped, but the hairs on the back of the neck still don’t go away. It’s what attracts me to Scientology.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Thanks Pan-D. Yes we all went together, and he is a good guy who has had experience with the cult (not good) with a family member still in.

            • beauty for ashes

              Any things you can remember that stand out? He’s been admittedly kinda all over the place with some stressful stuff, AND on painkillers. He really seems rather genuine. A lot of us probably have strange but true stories in our life here~ we are an odd bunch. :)

            • coonellie

              Well, he says he’s in PDX but goes to SF for Going Clear. He has a story about a friend’s daughter who was shy and almost got sucked into Scientology just last week. The story was close to unbelievable. He’s a never in but then talks about a teacher at Delphi that he experienced, creeping out someone who was at Delphi. He obviously makes a living but babysits a neighbor’s child…yeah because that’s what 30-40 something males do. That just off the cuff.

            • beauty for ashes

              He has talked about babysitting (with his girlfriend) for a friend who got screwed when she got pregnant. He does it as often as he can. Also he has talked about travel for business to SF area often.
              I’m not sure if this makes you feel any better, I know its not easy being tricked by people on the internet, and if you feel its necessary to be suspicious I will not tell you otherwise.

            • coonellie

              You are a sweetheart. I will hope you are right and chalk up my suspicions to past experience. For now I’ll believe Todd is okay. I hope to meet him in person and know myself but until then, he gets a pass :)

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Okay coonellie I missed those inconsistencies so I can’t say about them. But I did go to SF with him March 13 to see the movie (we met up nearby along with another Bunkeroo).

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Yes, Todd Tomorrow loves animals and does some good volunteer work with them.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            coonellie – I met Todd T and went to the show at the Presidio with him. He is a good guy and legit, has a sad family story about the cult (like many of us) that is not yet over.

            • coonellie

              Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. I must have missed that he had family connections with Scientology. I only got that his parent’s professions, childhood friends, moving around parts.

              Again, many thanks.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Well gosh, I think we are right to be paranoid, after all Paulette Cooper’s roommate was sent in by the cult. And I only met Todd once, but we have talked on the phone a lot, and emailed.

            • coonellie

              I guess I finally asked/posted because I had always suspected MonkeyKnickers but was too afraid to say anything. I have a bad habit of always thinking I’m in the wrong. At any rate, I’m very happy that you’ve taken the time to answer me and put my mind at rest. Happy Sunday to you!

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              coonellie, I may be too trusting, but it makes a lot of difference to meet someone in person and talk to them. And he has not had such an easy time of it in some ways (family in). Also, some of us with family in, like myself, give little inconsistencies in our stories so we don’t get found out.

            • coonellie

              I hadn’t thought of that. I don’t reply many times because there are too many things that could pinpoint me, so the point is very well taken. Again, thanks! :)

    • beauty for ashes

      Yeah More Baby! I did hope it would work out better for you, so I’m sorry for that.
      But seriously, WE need you! And moreover my friend, the Bunker is expanding exponentially, and you are the sassy hostess meritorious platinum here. No one else can fill your shoes. :) <3 <3 <3

      • Baby

        Oh.. Don’t be sorry.. My hubby told me from day 1 NOT to do it.. I can NOT work in a place whose owners do NOT pitch in when you are swamped..and other dishwashers show up when they feel like it.. Too young..

        So I will chalk it up as yet another lesson in my life.. My life was wonderful the way it was..I don’t know why I wanted to work in the first place.. HOT kitchen that will ONLY get hotter in the summer..ugh..I can’t imagine.

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          yep if the owners don’t help when its needed f them. thats just bullshit.

          • Baby

            BULLSHIT! absolute bullshit. Donna you are right.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          That is no way to run a business. Good for you for getting out.

          • Baby

            I have decided that even though my dad was cremated he would roll over in his ashes if I didn’t show and give my notice in person.

            So I will inform the boss that this is my last night.. and leave after my 4 hr. shift tonight..Head Held High.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      i also only walked out once from a job, and when someone is a good employe and they walk its not a good place to work,so good for you. it sounded like they were using you anyway. and i thought of you yesterday because the article Tony did was about Jason Beghe.

      • Baby

        Donna.. I didn’t even get to comment on Jason’s blog..and you know how I love Jason..errrrrrgh

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          you are too good for them. their loss big time, i mean you gave up commenting about Jason Beghe for them ! fuck them man !

          • Baby

            I knowwwwww I gave up Jason for Minimum wage..I am a prostitution whore

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              Prostitution Whore is actually pretty funny when you think about it. Sort of like being First Line of Defense Baseball First Baseman, or Senior Executive of the Executive Branch President of the United States, or Personal Nurse Practitioner of Illicit Injections Heroin Junkie, or Most Visible and Important Officer of a Contrived and Purposefully Esoteric Religio-Corporate Hierarchical Structure Chairman of the Board of Religious Technology Center. . .

            • Baby

              hahhaha.. I know.. I love it..

            • Mymy88

              hahahahahahaha! U so funny!

            • Baby

              I thought you would appreciate that 88..haha

    • cdub

      be strong, you’ll get thru this

      • Baby

        Thanks Cdub..errrrrrrrrrgh.. I was so mad when I left I was shaking..

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      Drop the mic, Baby! If they’re not either begging you to stay or offering to quit and come work for you elsewhere, then they’ve got their head stuck in the cloaca maxima. People like you are a valuable commodity. Nobody can do you like you doing you, so make it the priority! And you’ll always have my support. Let me know if I can write a letter.

      • Baby

        Oh Hingle.. I just love you.. They are BEGGING me to stay.. Every time I go in they praise me up and down..

        ( I don’t know if you read my comment about them saying the restaurant is God’s House so no swearing) So it is God loves you..God Bless you.. You were sent by God.. We will DO everything and anything to keep you.. We’ll give you the hours you need..blah, blah..

        and of course I say what hours..and they call on the days I don’t work..’ PLEASE, PLEASE JORDAN QUIT AND WE HAVE KNOW DISHWASHER.. ”

        But I can NOT be their saving Grace.. I will go in for 4 hrs today.. and then tell them that it is my last day.

        Everyone is leaving them. The Chef..The Pastry Chef ( my old boss) and about 5 dishwashers.

        You are willing to write a letter..You are so sweet.. really.. But Nah.. I have a feeling that my career is over. ha.. ( As it should be) I would rather hang out with you guys.. Love Baby

    • Miss Tia

      Don’t blame you ONE bit!! Surprised you’re still there actually! They ARE too unorganized and they’ve been taking advantage of you. Be prepared for them trying to manipulate you when you tell them you’re done. ((hugs)) ♥

  • El Con Blubbard

    My bet – Suri won’t ever walk into a Scientology Church. Her mother will keep her FAR, FAR away. I feel bad for the kid – what a mess.

    My guess – Katie had that clearly defined in the divorce (of course with her Dad’s help – thanks Papa Katie – for delivering an OT Blow to Mr. Tom Cruise of such epic ness – you knocked him all the way to Target Two…he is still reeling from it) in exchange for the GAGGING of “Life in the Bubble with Tom”.

    Slappy made Tom Cruise sign it – to avoid any negative PR.

    Tom doesn’t care – he does not believe it is “his” kid anyway….Suri is a Thetan (the size of your thumb – LRH) in a meat body and has been around for millions of years.

    Tom Cruise is very busy trying to get that overt and with hold pulled at FLAG. The one which pulled in HBO, “Going Clear” and the blow from Katie.

    • Baby

      Con.. I don’t feel bad for Suri.. Her mama has enough love for 2 parents to give. Her parents lived right around the corner when I lived in Toledo.. ( They lived in Ottawa Hills the rich area)

      Katie comes from good MidWest Stock. .. She is very grounded. She comes from a loving and very close family…and what I understand she goes home often.

      Suri will be just fine ( as long as Cruise stays away..Bleh) When Suri was with mom and dad..Tom insisted that she word designer clothes.. Katie doesn’t play that..

      The day I saw her hold Suri ( sleeping) on her lap on the NY Subway I knew she was in good hands.

  • Lady Squash

    Tom Cruise worships Miscavige and Miscavige makes fun of him behind his back and set-about to break up his marriage to Nichole. And Miscavige has been spying on him for years and Scientology has been nothing but bad for his career. I’d say Cruise is getting screwed. I’m just saying…

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Yet Tom is doing similar to his niece and her boyfriend.. Tom is so ‘on source’ following the narcissistic hatred and intentions of El Fraudulently Hubbard ubiquitous in hubbard’s spewings. Tom Cruise and David Miscavige should be in a movie together, acting as themselves. Clones of Hubbard. The movie could be called Going Clear.

    • valshifter

      by a real bully.

  • Melissa

    bffs forever

    • valshifter

      That is gonna be their future in the Caribean. in their own island.

  • http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Former_Church_of_Scientology_members_who_have_spoken_out TrevAnon

    Here is another major breakthrough in the development of Scientology!!!!!!!

    More than 2,500 ex-members of COS speak out against the church!!!!!

    To be precise and as of now, the list is at 2,517.

    You can find the list at

    http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Former_Church_of_Scientology_members_who_have_spoken_out

    Trev “Sherman” Anon

    PS I think I should have drilled the Shermanspeak and exclamation mark-tech a little more. :biggrin:

    • beauty for ashes

      Congratulations to WWP and all the people who have put scientology firmly behind them!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

      Thanks for all the impressive and important work!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Wonderful work! You asked yesterday and now there are about 40 more people!

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Sunday the 22nd of March
    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls,
    Houston leads the removals followed by Boston & LA.

    Do not forget your daily vote in the Milner’s jumpstart competition: http://www.milner.com/jumpstart/jumpstart-tampa. The consensus is that we should vote for “Wounded Warrior” AND “Humane Society”, it is your choice.

    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. If you have the time: extend your reach to the rest of your area and even the rest of North America.
    RedX Tips and links at wwp: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-119#post-2519486
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    (F5, …for) Cupa Joe by Obs , flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/14214005201/in/set-72157642802079293

  • Ella Raitch

    We’re skating into one week to go territory….then the world will never be the same again for Scientology

  • Pierrot

    Who Can I Credit for this one. I found it on Jefferson Hawkins website “Leaving Scientology”.
    I think that it is perfect for the Sunday’s funnies which are mostly about fundextracting.

    • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

      Credit the Internet.

  • what’suppressive

    Tony, please…. I’m beggin ya. Not another fucking photo of Grant Cardone!

    • Andrew Robertson

      Sometimes my dear what’suppressive one should confront one’s dislikes and fears in order to overcome them. So to help your inner thetan here’s a photo for you:

      Andrew

      • what’suppressive

        More smart Arse Kiwi’s that’s just what I need.

        • Missionary Kid

          Are there any that aren’t?
          Just kidding.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I think it’s the only kind… lol! (I’m Aussie, I can say that and not be sorry or kidding!) :p

            • Missionary Kid

              I love Ozzie humor.

            • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

              For a second I thought you like Ozzy humor.

            • Missionary Kid

              Not Osborne. I meant the people down under. Maybe I should have written Ozzy?

            • EnthralledObserver

              Aussie – is pronounced Ozzy. We wouldn’t want to be confused with Ozzy Ostrich. And if you don’t know who I’m talking about then you aren’t Aussie enough! 😉

            • what’suppressive

              SHARON SHARON. FETCH ME…..FETCH ME….oh fuck I forgot.

            • what’suppressive

              And it loves you MK.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. Now, I’m going over to the new post.

      • what’suppressive

        You are a Kiwi aren’t you Andrew?

        • Andrew Robertson

          kiwi: noun, timid flightless short sighted, nocturnal bird of the genus.Apteryx incapable of defending itself against predators. (It’s our national symbol, goodness knows why.)

          Andrew (1/4 Irish, 1/4 Scottish, 1/2 Cornish, 100% NZ)

          • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

            Translation – Kick Ass Rock Star.

      • what’suppressive

        Question: I meet ALOT of Kiwis but rarely as intelligent as you (i jest) Has ANZAC day become the huge deal over there it is here these days?

        • Andrew Robertson

          Regardless of one’s politics, Anzac Day is considered an important and solemn day in remembering those who died defending our liberty, just as it is in Australia.

          Andrew

          • what’suppressive

            Oh I totally agree. It seems to have lost it’s way here and become a day of partying, it was o/t I know.

            • Ella Raitch

              The centenary celebration in Albany last October were magic WS – very respectful and well received by locals, visitors, Vets and family alike.

            • what’suppressive

              The morning always is and that’s fantastic. It’s seems to get cray cray for the rest of the day more and more.

      • Missionary Kid

        His attitude is as evil as Ebola.

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        Perhaps the President shouldn’t have laughed me out of the room when I brought up Hit a Prick with a Brick Day as a potential national holiday right after Tax Day. GC was the posterboy for that one. . .

        • Missionary Kid

          Just to remind you, because OSA loves to bring up examples of how violent we are in the Bunker, it’s one thing to wish all sorts of diseases to befall him, but that’s a little close, in my opinion, to advocating violence.

          • Hingle McCringleberry

            Sorry not to have cleared that with you. I’ll turn in my Facetiousness and Irony cards at the door when I leave. You can go on compiling your lists and upholding a “higher standard” card and uphold an atmosphere of sober respect while Heber Jentzche or whomever is hooked up to a car battery in the Hole. While I have the utmost respect for the dedication on OSA agents the world over, or all six of them at this point, I’d hate to give them the actual benefit of the doubt regarding directing the discourse here. Don’t you have a metamucil drink to be stirring up at this hour of the morning?

            • Missionary Kid

              I don’t know if you remember, but violence was cited from postings here at the bunker in a court case in an attempt to show that we are violence-prone meanies. Our proprietor has chided us not to use it as a consequence.

              I’m not trying to censor you, and I understand your sense of irony, but in cold print, it can be interpreted differently, especially when cited in court documents.

              I’m not concerned about OSA’s delicate sensibilities, but I am about how our postings can be used to portray us as crazed, violence prone individuals to help $cientology’s case in court.

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              Okay, I’ll bite. Then I’m going to bed. J/Ding that “the President shouldn’t have laughed me out of the room when I brought up Hit a Prick with a Brick Day” legislation regarding national holidays would not hold up as a legit threat to anyone in any country with a self respecting “jurisprudence” speaks for itself. It also speaks to the eggshells that “OSA” wants us to walk over. You can call me out the day that I charge across the courtroom and smash someone over the head with a brick in one of the many ongoing trials. I hope you’ll trust that I don’t have a brick with Kenny-boy Moxon or Tommy-dawg Davis’ name on them. I don’t think that far ahead. So, when OSA is outside buying your garbage, or drowning your cat, hopefully you’ll try to direct the debate on their message boards. . .

            • Missionary Kid

              I was probably oversensitive and didn’t read your comment closely enough when I replied, but “Hit a prick with a brick” just set off one of my hot buttons because of the results of a meme in Great Britain, “kick a ginger,” that got a lot of red-haired kids kicked and bullied. One of my kids had red hair when he was growing up.

              Calling Cardone a prick is too nice a term.

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              Also, in what court filing was violent tonyortega.org postings used as evidence to help the Co$?

            • Missionary Kid

              I apologize, because I misremembered the case, and I’m wrong. Again, trusting my faulty memory, I seem to remember Tony cautioning people who talked about violence against $cientology. Your reference to a particular day was, in reality, very circumspect.

              In Great Britain, there was an epidemic of red-haired kids being attacked because somebody started a meme of something like “kick a ginger.” I’m obviously being overcautious. Hit a prick with a brick just seemed too similar to me, and I probably should have gone back to sleep.

              The case where $cientology quoted comments in the Bunker was in the Byzantine Garcia case, with the sideshow of Brian Caulkin. It’s obvious that I misremembered the part of the case that referenced Caulkin when you read Tony’s Blog on the incident. http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/11/scientology-asks-for-judges-help-because-you-were-so-mean-to-brian-culkin/

              $cientology attorneys claimed that Brian was supposedly too afraid to come to Florida to testify against the Garcias because we’re a bunch of meanies, and he felt people were out to get him, as evidenced by things that Mr. Garcia and others had said about him,on Facebook, ESMB, and here.

              $cientology, of course, exaggerated.

              Ultimately, Caulkin bowed out, not because of any threats, but, IIRC, he didn’t like to be in bed with $cientology in a legal case.

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              We can just sweep this under the rug, if that’s cool with you. I’ve made more memory faux pas than my poor memory can compile. I have Irish blood and I’ve known about what goes down with the gingers. Gingers didn’t choose ginger, but Grant Cardone chose to use victim-making “tech” to line his pockets and those of the church. While a victim himself from some other vantage point, he engages in pillaging himself, and at best case only to keep himself off of the IAS gallows.

              All of that being said, I’d never advocate real violence against the chult, except for in the nearly impossible situation where use of force would fit unarguably within the definition of the world ‘rescue’. Joking and Degrading is Freedom of Speech, something routinely denied to those chasing LRH’s brand of “Freedom”. I’ll never shut my mouth until verbal restraint is necessary to help these people get out. Setting a standard of conduct regarding some idea of “acceptable” speech is exactly what they do to control people. I’m not having it. But I won’t kick you, and will kick anyone back who does. That’s on the record. Hope you’re having a good evening. You’re a good and dedicated man, and I respect you.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. I always reserve the right to be wrong, and I was wrong on that one, big time.

              Cardone is definitely a prick. I believe that whatever happens, he will never admit it. Like Davy, I believe that he suffers from a lack of introspection. (I guess that would apply to everyone under the spell of LRH). His lack reaches into the total way in which he lives his life. His success is based on making victims of others,, and because he’s been good at it and made money at it for a long time, I doubt he’ll ever change.

              I only sleep a few hours at a time, and I woke up cranky and didn’t really take the time to thoroughly read what you wrote. At least that’s my excuse, and I chose to read what you wrote the wrong way. That is my fault. I appreciate that you were logical in your response.

              I guess the thing that I dislike about the internet, and especially $cientology is that often disagreements degenerate into ad hominem attacks. You restrained yourself, and that’s what I love about the Bunker. For the most part, concepts are discussed, not someone’s mother. You forced me to go back an examine the place where the controversy started because I was going to “prove” you wrong. I found out how wrong I was, instead.

              Thanks for being charitable to me. (Damn, I almost signed my real name),

              Missionary Kid.

            • Missionary Kid

              I apologize for not being clearer in explaining why I said something about your posting.

              I’m no censor, and I really appreciate your posts, especially your facetiousness and irony.

    • Mymy88

      Hahahaha! You’ve got my vote.

  • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

    7 Days

    • what’suppressive

      Hey Dodo. Having a good weekend?

      • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

        Not bad, brother. You?

        • what’suppressive

          Good…. Disqus is being a red headed step child today. And as for the shoebox thing… I was thinking the long suffering folk of Clearwater are gonna have some flash buildings down town in the hopefully not too distant future. They can be their trophies.

          • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

            Good. I like your vision.

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s mostly stuff that everyone who regularly reads the Bunker is aware of, but the way it’s presented will blow the socks off of the general public.

      I traveled 100+ miles to see it, and it was worth it. I found myself nodding “yes” to a lot of it.

      • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

        I like that a lot. Thanks, MK.
        No wonder it’s such a “flap”.

        • Missionary Kid

          If I were Miscavige, I’d be afraid, very afraid. I hope he’s panicking.

  • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

    I really like L. Ron’s Hall. It looks like a fancy shoe box.

    • Missionary Kid

      Let’s hope that it stays as a table-top model and no more. On the other hand, it will keep the clams busy raising money so they don’t see Going Clear hitting them.

      • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

        Yeah, I jut hope some of them will start realizing that they are wasting their hard-earned cash for an expensive looking shoe box and boots in the sky. Literally.

    • AintMizBahavin

      Dodo i have to thank you truly no matter the subject on lyingtology you make me laugh and i definitely appreciate that….

      • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

        My pleasure! :) :)

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paIgd_lvAuI&feature=share Ginger Sugerman

    David Miscavige sounds just like Tom Cruises father. I think Tom is replacing one total jerk with another so he feels he has a father figure. Cruise lost his father from a walk out when he was young. . http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-cruise-talks-about-his-father/

    • Tracy Schmitz

      true, what i find utterly mystifying is that “for gosh sakes, your 52 years old! AND your fricking TOM CRUISE! geez louise!

      • Jenny Lee de Becker

        Yep and you have real kids of your own and that you should be a REAL FATHER to!

  • Missionary Kid

    Ah, yes, the picture of TC and DM: The Ambiguously gay duo on Saturday Night Live.

  • Sydjazz

    Hi bunkerites.,checking in for the night shift

  • Sydjazz

    Hey if anyone out there has a twitter account start using it and use hashtag scientology. They have a twiiter army trying to flood the tweety with scion crap. Hmm twitter tech we can beat it

    • Miss Tia

      what is twitter? i’ve never heard of it…..

      • Sydjazz

        Haha miss haiku of the tweetys

        • Miss Tia

          on there right now! 😉

    • AintMizBahavin

      what is the hash tag for the twitter? i have an account and will gladly tweet anything anti lyingotolgy i know im late to this but family issues called

      • Sydjazz

        #scientology have a read its fun

  • Tory Christman

    The Hits just keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep on comin’ :) Thank you Tony, Tom and all.

    Oh! And let me not forget: Thank you, “dave” for PROVING this Documentary *is* TRUE.
    All of your phony, false “ads” and hate videos prove it more than any
    of us could say. I’ve said this for years: “$cientology will always
    prove what we do and say is true”. Hey, I started that 14 years ago, and
    here we are today.

    Can
    they learn? Does david miscavige even know the term: “History Repeats
    Itself”? I realized today: I bet he doesn’t even know it. How could he
    and continue to do the same, idiotic thing, over and over and over? All
    of his moronic, hateful actions are great for us: Very bad for those
    still “in”. If “in”: BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN! Tory/Magoo

  • MagicJesus

    Eff Tom Cruise, and the F-15 Tomcat he rode in on…

  • Guest

    Cruise is a freak ! No Brain robot controlled by his boyfriend. Hahahahahaha Hope you boycott whats left of his no talent acting career

  • steWTF

    Maybe one of the glider “records” Hubbard supposedly held was distance, measured in light years!

    Forgive me if my observations tend to re-visit previously discussed material. I just can’t help but notice the incredible degree of ignorance Hubbard illustrates when he attempts to wrap his feeble mind around any real scientific concepts. To wit; (I paraphrase) Xenu brought the undesirables here on “space planes”, of which the DC8 is our modern copy of. WTF??? The DC-8 is designed for, and capable of, flight in Earth’s atmosphere…and nowhere else. Propulsion system and heat-shielding aside (as if those aren’t difficult enough problems to be solved), due to the DC-8’s shape, it is suitable for aerodynamic flight through AIR, ONLY. Was he, and are his followers really this stupid?

  • steWTF

    Why I can’t travel through time!

    So, we have “dormant engrams” that we are not unaware of because they have not been keyed-in? They exist in this state unless (until?) keyed-in by simply being present at an event, during which we may be unconscious, or, “unconscious”, or from acquiring the respective contagion, apparently by being sneezed on by someone in which a given engram has been keyed-in during which they may have been unconscious, or, “unconscious” or were sneezed on by another in which a given engram, etc…ok.

    It can be assumed we each must have ALL POSSIBLE engrams present within us, (as far as I know, Hubbard offers no method of predicting which engrams will get keyed-in). This number is infinite ( no need to prove this part of my theory, as I state it as a scientific fact
    Engrams have mass. I carry an infinite number of engrams. Therefore, I have infinite mass! (Scales and other such devices that use so-called “scientific” means and systems of measure must be the result of a conspiracy between psychos and drug companies to keep us in their clutches via their fabricated weight-control loop)

    Again, No wonder I can’t travel through time!

    – Thanks for the win!

  • Kitty Psen
  • wombleranger

    Miscavige(5,1″) and Cruise(5’7″) both suffer from little man complex.