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‘Going Clear’ subject Tom DeVocht gets a lesson in Scientology’s social media surveillance

Tom DeVocht

Tom DeVocht

We’ve been telling you that Scientology’s reaction to Alex Gibney’s film Going Clear has been a burst of “Fair Game” activity that’s affecting numerous people involved with the film. This is behind-the-scenes stuff that isn’t obvious from what’s getting more attention from the press — the silly letters and videos Scientology has been posting to its Freedom magazine website.

One of the people feeling the heat has been Tom DeVocht, who is featured prominently in the film. Sure, he’s getting smeared at the Freedom website, but they’re the same old slanders that have been thrown at him for years, some of it aimed at him previously on anonymous attack websites that we always assumed the church was secretly running.

What isn’t so obvious is that he’s been dealing with an increase in the usual private eye nonsense that he and Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder and the other former high-ranking church executives regularly put up with. DeVocht told us details about that harassment that we agreed not to share for privacy reasons, but it’s mostly the stuff you’d expect from Scientology — attempts to disrupt DeVocht’s livelihood and relationships, a constant reminder that he’s still a target merely for speaking out.

But then, something really unusual happened, some of which he talked about last night on Facebook. We called him to get the whole story and he filled us in on yet another example of Scientology’s toxic “disconnection” policy.

Tom was a Sea Org executive who oversaw the construction and renovation projects at the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida. It was a key position, and it enabled him to get very close to David and Shelly Miscavige. Tom left Scientology in May 2005, and in 2009 he took part in the epic series at the Tampa Bay Times, “The Truth Rundown” which revealed that Miscavige was beating his top lieutenants and housing them in a prison called “The Hole.”

That’s made Tom one of the most targeted former members for private eye investigation, surveillance, and harassment. It also resulted in his sister, Nancy, disconnecting from him.

“My sister Nancy was Mike Rinder’s communicator when he was running the Office of Special Affairs,” Tom tells us. He only found out recently that because Nancy visited him after he left the church, she was sent to the Rehabilitation Project Force — a special prison detail only for Sea Org workers — and it cost her four years of her life.

And you wonder how Scientology keeps its members disconnected from “suppressive persons” like Tom DeVocht.

Tom tells us that Nancy has a daughter, Marina, who also had to cut him out of her life. Marina is about 30 years old and lives in the Midwest, and she’s another family member that he’s had to assume he’ll never hear from again. But then, recently, she shocked Tom by “friending” him on Facebook.

DeVocht immediately realized what the consequences of that might be.

He messaged his niece, asking for her phone number so he could call her. Once she did, he called her, and while on the phone, he “unfriended” her. He explained that he was under constant surveillance, and it would be noticed that she had reached out to him. Marina herself is only tangentially involved in the church, Tom explained to us, but she was still expected not to have any contact with her uncle.

“We were Facebook friends for no more than about an hour. But that was enough,” he says.

What he means is that Scientology operatives watch social media with intense scrutiny. And sure enough, there were consequences for his niece reaching out to him. A day later, he got this text from her…

“Mom called and an MAA [a Scientology “Master At Arms”] told her that I had you on my Facebook so I had to lie to her…. She told me to go a site [Freedom magazine’s website] because it will tell me what you did and why you are attacking the church. I know you told me but I still need to understand more. I do not like to lie especially to my mom but you’re my family. This isn’t easy for me. Thanks.”

DeVocht tells us he was grateful to catch up with his niece for the first time in a decade, but he’s worried about the consequences. By asking Marina to read the smears about her uncle at Freedom, her mother is enforcing disconnection. Now that Marina has made contact with her uncle, she doesn’t want to lose contact with him, but he’s tried to make her understand how Scientology’s toxic policy might roll out.

“My sister disconnected from me, so yeah, there’s a possibility that she’ll disconnect from her own daughter. I hope it doesn’t happen,” Tom says. “And do you know how many people who have left Scientology have to go through this? It happens all the time.”

DeVocht says it’s a constant presence in the life of current and former Scientologists. They constantly wonder, who will be told to cut off all ties with them next?

“They’re either going to force my niece to disconnect from me completely, or my sister will disconnect from her,” he says.

And it once again reinforces for him the resources Scientology expends to watch former members.

“You sometimes think they probably aren’t watching all that closely. Fuck me, they are watching that closely.”

 
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Sunday Funnies

Just a few items for you this week.

Hey, Tim Bowles! As in the former law partner of Snow White unindicted co-conspirator Kendrick Moxon! Tim’s been brought to cause!

 
BOWLES

 
Silli answers to funny questions: What is OT??

 
AOLA

 
Do you have the courage to write a big, fat check?

 
COURAGE

 
Can you imagine how much the Cardones are looking forward to this fundraiser?

 
ITALY

 
Yeah, pretty much every morning we can’t get out of bed until we’ve asked ourselves, “Should I survive?”

 
LRH QUOTE

 
Oh yeah, you know you want parenting advice from Scientology.

 
OC

 
We’d like to hear from a former member just what a seminar like this is like.

 
OT

 
Yay! Learning how to learn in the Twin Cities!

 
STHAT

 
Thanks again to our great tipsters!

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

More photos from the events last night at Ruth Eckerd Hall and the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater!

 
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Ooh! Some shots inside Ruth Eckerd Hall last night which give you a pretty good idea of just what a small venue it is (capacity is only about 2,100). These photos were posted by someone from the Calcutta Dianetics Center who was in Clearwater for the celebration. Now, if we only had a shot of Dan Sherman and his silver mullet!

 
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Get your checkbooks out! A model of the L. Ron Hubbard Hall, going in next to the Super Power building, has been unveiled…

 
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Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 15, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Zana

    i watched Going Clear at the Cinerama Dome for the 2nd time last night. It was even better the 2nd time. Precise, intelligent. It moved very quickly and Gibney was masterful in showing so much information in just a few moments of screen time. I was in the front section when the doors opened at 7:35. There were only about 5 people out there waiting with me. I sat down in my seat at 7:40 and hoped it would fill up around me…it did. Lots of smart looking people. No one I recognized. I enjoyed being alone and seeing it as a very person experience, to be able to contemplate what I was learning from it for my own life. What keeps reflecting back for me is how many times I have just given my power away willy-nilly because I didn’t know I had any right to it. I just allowed myself to be spun around by the rides at the “circus” so that I didn’t notice when people were picking my pockets. Draining my energy. Getting me to do their work by intimidating me or pretending to be helpless.

    What I’m learning is the balance between staying centered in my own power and, at the same time, staying open and interacting with those around me in a compassionate way without being “taken out.” I’m saying this in the first person, because I don’t want to make assumptions for others. The unfolding of this whole affair has me understanding how important it is for each of us “good guys” to become as powerful and intelligent as we can, and provoke the power and intelligence in other good guys. To hold a space where we can all grow into our unique greatness. It is our differences and the power of our joy that, coming together, can change the world.

    I dedicate my life to celebrating that.

    • Missionary Kid

      Damn, that’s powerful. Congratulations on freeing your mind and spirit!

      I haven’t gotten any of your emails at skepticalmissionarrykid at(symbol) gmail dot com Maybe if you cut and paste the skeptical…. and put it on the address part, you’ll get through.

      • Zana

        I know why… I forgot the “kid.” That’s what happens when I’m writing. Hmmmm….I wonder who got it. :-)??? It was not returned. Oh well. I’ll send another. Thanks for the follow up. We will meet another time. !

        • Missionary Kid

          Your emails probably ended up in, as they say, the electronic bit bucket.

    • Allie

      Zana, it is sooooo good to hear that you are having these strong reflections and realizations. It is becoming more clear to me how everyone did not realize what was happening to them. Understandable but very evil. I’m so glad you’re no longer involved. Keep celebrating.

    • Eileen

      Perfect.

  • ShoopZ

    “A WHOLE NEW WORLD HAS OPENED UP!”

    Opened up indeed! (refresh)

  • sugarplumfairy

    How to successfully raise children? Using lrh data? And you thought john allender was scary..

  • BabySmurfette

    Have we figured out what “fun guaranteed by the Italians!”

    I guess some random Italians that are attending will guarantee you have fun.

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      I think it might be a reference to the Cardones, if I follow Tony’s comment about them correctly.

    • Zana

      Random fun by the Italians..??? … mobster style?

  • KingofSweden

    May the L. Ron Hubbard Hall never be built! Amen.

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      Amen. . .

    • Missionary Kid

      Let ’em build it. When they get it done, they won’t have enough people to fill it.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        But we need to police the situation. Too much human trafficking and slave labor are being used. They need to be fined and forced to abide by proper safety or spend ages in court trying to get the proper permits.

        • Missionary Kid

          Excellent points. One problem is that you usually have to depend on state enforcement agencies for safety violations. Counties handle building codes and permits, and the whole human trafficking problem is usually handled by the Federal government. $cientology takes advantage of all of the jurisdictional separations.

          I believe that the tax exempt status needs to be challenged, as the movie calls for.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Where I live it takes about 20 minutes to get an inspector out to a job sight. I realize this is very different than most places, however, we have nothing to lose by trying to help a conned-Russian(See interview, Zoe Woodcraft) or an exploited child, safe. I think that truly the tables are starting to turn the more people become aware. If they seem to be able to get the police to believe them are constantly under threat, even though it’s been proven time after time to be false accusations they must investigate real ones they inflict. In the US, if we can prove they are ignoring overt violations then said inspector would/should, could be fired. Starting to ramble, but “religious freedom” allowed Warren Jeff’s, sexual abuse to go on unabated for way too long. Finally, when his five year old nephew who was abused at five years old came forward, something was done to stop some of it. The more”noisy” investigations that show the horrid truths of the cult the more likely something will have to be done about it. You’re right the tax situation should include back taxes and bankrupt them like they’ve done to so many.

            • Missionary Kid

              Again, more excellent points.

              They’re paranoid about everything, especially governmental agencies. Let’s give them some real grief by saying “sic ’em” to governmental agencies, so their paranoia is justified.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Did you see the doc, Cocaine Cowboys? They came out with a sequel which was very different but showed that the main character continued to run her drug dealing, wholesale, cocaine business from jail. It is shown people don’t like three hour or more movies but Going Clear, did a great job calling out two of their celebs. What would be great is if they showed the failings of the US governmental agencies that tend to be bullied into believing their nonsense. Obviously they should be held accountable for calling in false bomb threats against them that turns out to be them, entrapping Anons. I could go on forever but the point is why aren’t they in jail is beyond me. Guess who’s minding the store folks, nobody.

  • shasha40

    Man, I really wouldn’t want to be going dick come Monday morning , but I am sort of enjoying the whole death of a thousand cuts scenario playing out … Tick , tock , Davey …

  • FUCK THAT !!!!! They stop at nothing ! My mom and I didn’t for years despite we were both IN the CULT !! When my first born child died I reached out to her and she wouldn’t speak out of fear of one of us being declared !! The bastard that gave us both that order is FRANK ZURN at ABLE Int. ( heard his wife Laurie is being held in the HOLE ) I’ve lost all my children as well !!!!!!!!!!!! I feel for Tom big time !!!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Hi, Ginger.. I just watched the video that you did with Karen.. All I can say is jeeeeez.. I truly hope things turn around for you soon..

      • i-Betty
      • Thank you very much. I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel !! I’m trying to come to grips to let my children go and stop trying. Each time I try I’m hit with rejection and it hurts !! I don’t know what to do ?

        • NOLAGirl

          ((((((hugs)))))))

          Sadly, you can’t force them to see what the truth of this despicable organization really is. Just be there when they do see it for themselves so they have loving, understanding support when they come out, and I believe one day they will Ginger. Sending you lots of love hon. xoxoxox

    • rayana00

      Fuck them, they are despicable

    • Sid

      I’m with you Ginger. It’s a sad situation and why we’re here.

  • Bob Crouch

    The Tom DV story does not contain one iota of news, nothing that has not been reported on hundreds of times already. Yet it is always shocking and saddening to hear about what this brownshirt outfit is up to–whether it’s for the first or thousandth time!

    Is this REALLY what should be going on in our midst; after all we go around lecturing other countries about “freedom.”

  • Bradley Greenwood

    Re: the pics from Ruth Eckerd Hall… It looks much bigger in the pics than it is. The concert hall at my daughter’s high school is about he same size. When I took pictures at a concert last week it LOOKED so big. I am sure this helps Sci “fake out” the public. These events are, largely, sparsely attended. They are avoided because it takes no money to get in, but a TON to get out.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    I have started a page about “Going Clear” on TVTropes, if anybody wants to add to it: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/GoingClear

  • Billy Bob

    Co$ is about power. Not power over MEST or power to remember the whole track or power over your bank, it is about power over people. Co$ power over members and enemies. DM’s power over the people in his immediate vicinity. Everything to do with the church, each action and statement, is generated by and can be analyzed in terms of power relationships. There is hardly anything else in there. All virtues are subsumed and twisted into the creation of power over others. All credit to my auditor, the org, LRH. The tensions between public, staff and SO. Overpower all those who would hurt your church, your thetanness, your world. KSW ueber alles.
    I maybe wrong to assert the relationship between auditor and pc is a power relationship, yet you can see why it can be viewed so.

    • scottmercer

      Power is diffused by speaking truth to power, instead of quaking in your boots.

    • grundoon

      LRH was quite explicit about this. It is evident that he had an obsession for control.

      There are two types of Auditing. Both include control. They are called “Formal Auditing” and “Tone 40 Auditing”. The first is control by ARC. The second is control by direct Tone 40 command. The first, Control by ARC, is taught in Comm Course. The second, Control by Tone 40, is taught in Upper Indoc. The two are never mixed in teaching. Tone 40 is never taught in a Comm Course and is not even permitted. ARC is not taught in Upper Indoc. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 2 APRIL 1958, ARC IN COMM COURSE.

      Group Auditing is as effective as we can continue control over the group. As therapeutic as the control can be bettered. Control can be of attention, person (body) and thinkingness. Should any of these break down, auditing value stops. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 8 APRIL 1957, GROUP AUDITING

      Here’s the goals I wrote and had framed for the Communication Course room here on the third floor, front of 1812 19th Street, N.W. It’s in green on cream to match the trees outside the balcony and the room walls. “A Scientologist is one who controls persons, environments and situations.” … L. Ron Hubbard, Ability 48, The Hubbard Certified Auditor Course

      TR2: PURPOSE: To teach student that an acknowledgment is a method of controlling preclear communication and that an acknowledgment is a full stop…. COMMANDS: The coach reads lines from “Alice in Wonderland” omitting “He saids” and the student thoroughly acknowledges them. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 29 APRIL 1963, MODERNIZED TRAINING DRILLS USING PERMISSIVE COACHING

      TR6: COMMANDS: “Look at that wall.” “Walk over to that wall.” “With your right hand, touch that wall.” “Turn around.” All with acknowledgments. Not Tone 40…. HISTORY: Developed by L. Ron Hubbard in Camden, 1953…. now called 8-C and means the above process. Original intention was to place preclear within the control of the auditor so auditing could occur. Proved so successful became an end-all in itself. Nominated in Summary Research Project 1956 as responsible all by itself for approximately 50% of results achieved by auditors across the world. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JUNE 1957, TRAINING AND CCH PROCESSES

      Auditing depends on the auditor taking control of the pc…. Control consists of the pc being aware of who and what is controlling him. So Find the Auditor is therefore part of Control. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 18 JANUARY 1958, CONTROL

      A well schooled auditor can take any volunteering PC and get him under control and run Step 6 of Clear Procedure and we have a Book One Clear. … L. Ron Hubbard, HCO BULLETIN OF 26 JANUARY AD 8, FUTURE PLANS

      There is one process called Locational Processing which works out a tremendous amount of confrontingness and controls attention at the same time. It is run Tone 40, with great accuracy and precision by the auditor, who then controls the preclear’s attention which was previously controlled by facsimiles. And a steady control like that runs out the preclear’s attempts to control. Locational Processing happens to make the thetan make the body confront the wall. … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 129, CONFRONTING

      CCH 1 is known as “Give Me That Hand….” This is the first step to the control of the preclear’s body, which is the basic element of Control-C-H (CCH). We first have to bring the preclear’s body under your and then his control before we can attempt to bring his attention or thinkingness under control. And processing follows that basic pattern all the time—control of body, attention and thinkingness. … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 133, PROCEDURE CCH

      CCH 2: CCH 2 is Tone 40 8-C, which has the following commands: “With that body’s eyes look at that wall.” “Thank you.” “Walk that body over to that wall.” “Thank you.” “With that right hand touch that wall.” “Thank you.” “Turn that body around.” “Thank you.” … The intention or goal of this process is to bring the preclear’s body further under control and to insure that he does “precisely” what you tell him to do, and it is a basic step for getting his thinkingness under your command as well. By showing the preclear you can control his body, you are actually inviting him to control it and to take some responsibility for it. … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 134, PROCEDURE CCH CONTINUED

      CCH 6: To bring the preclear’s attention further and fully under control of the auditor, Opening Procedure by Duplication 1957, with the following commands, is used: (Auditor takes a book and bottle, placing them some distance apart on tables so that the preclear doesn’t have to bend.) “With that body’s eyes look at that book.” “Thank you.” “Walk that body over to that book.” “Thank you.” (Auditor each time with the commands points to “that body” and “that book.”) … These two processes, when well run, will bring the preclear’s attention under the direction of the auditor…. the auditor may then proceed to bring the preclear’s thinkingness under his control with: CCH 7: Tone 40 8-C—”Keep it from going away,” CCH 8: Tone 40 8-C—”Hold it still,” and CCH 9: Tone 40 8-C—”Make it a little more solid,” … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 135, PROCEDURE CCH CONTINUED

      It all comes under the heading of willingness to be there and willingness to control people. One of the ways of convincing people of beingness and of being there is to exercise control—positive, undeniable Tone 40 exercise of control. Start to control the situation with high enough ARC, enough presence and factuality — there won’t be anybody present that won’t step back and let you control the situation. You are entitled to it in the first place because of senior “know-how.” The control of body attention or thought comprises the majority of your knowledge. The majority in Scientology simply points in this direction. The observable thing is control of attention, objects and thoughts…. The antithesis of any pain, disturbance or tumult is order. The thing which controls tumult is order; and, conversely, the thing which controls order is tumult. You need only bring order into a confused situation and bring confusion into an orderly situation to control everything in the field of motion, action and objects…. In this wise you can always have a successful assist, because assists all come under the heading of control. The beingness of the person and his presence makes the control possible. So part of control is always presence, identity, person, the one who takes charge and has things under control. When you are able to control his attention, his body and thoughts, then he will be in session and you are no longer doing an assist. Assists dominantly require that you direct the attention of the preclear and dispose his person one way or the other and eventually take over control of his thoughts on the subject. … L. Ron Hubbard, Ability 73, Assists in Scientology

      Thinkingness in general should not be suspected to be under
      anybody’s control. It is probably more under the auditor’s control than
      it is under the preclear’s. When I say or ask “Is the preclear’s
      thinkingness under control?” I want you to understand that it is less
      under the preclear’s control at any time than under the auditor’s. The
      auditor can certainly control the preclear’s thinkingness better than
      the preclear can. But before you can do this you must first get the
      preclear’s body and attention under control. A condition to running
      Trio is: Is the person and attention under your control? To assume
      that the power of choice is also under the preclear’s control — much
      less his thinkingness — is, of course, completely wrong.
      … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 146, PROCEDURE CCH

      Now why all this stress on acknowledgment? Well, acknowledgment is a control factor — I’ll just let you in on a secret right here at the beginning. If you acknowledge a preclear well, you will have the preclear under much better control. Now, why? The formula of control is Start, Change and Stop. And that’s just it — an acknowledgment is Stop. If you said to him “Keep going” or “Keep talking,” you would not be acknowledging him. The perfect acknowledgment communicates only this: I have heard your communication. That’s all there is to it — I have heard what you said. It signalizes that the preclear’s (or person’s, since Scientology applies to life, not just to an auditing room) communication to you has been received. But when you use it as an auditor you use it also as a control factor. And it says this: Your communication has been received — and that is all there is to it, and that is the end of that cycle of action, thank you. That’s what it says, and you have to put that whole intention into a “Yes” or an “Okay” or anything else you use. It isn’t the word, it’s the intention that ends it. Your communication has been received and I have now decided to stop that cycle of communication and your communication is therefore under my control. Those things which you stop, very crudely, are things which you control. You have to be able to stop things if you control them. If you cannot control a preclear’s communication line you can’t control the preclear. … L. Ron Hubbard, P.A.B. No. 149, DUMMY AUDITING

      • Billy Bob

        Thanks! Not what I gleaned from my reading of dianetics. Seems I hit on a paradigm for deconstructing everything Scientological. I’ll see where it goes and when/if it breaks down.

  • Mymy88

    $cientology can throw all the ‘vigorous denials’ at ‘Going Clear’, they want. Their well honed and drilled liar skills no longer worky. $cientology, you are so busted. Oh, and you’re also making a pretty good laughing stock out of yourself, while you’re at it.

    • scottmercer

      I think one of the main problems that Scientology watchers and critics have getting the message across to the general apathetic public is that most people, if they think of Scientology at all, think of that wacky alien worshipping religion that Tom Cruise is a part of, dismissing Scientology as a bunch stupid suckers, basically harmless. Going Clear will disabuse many people of that notion.

      • Mymy88

        I completely agree with you. I think you could have pretty much put me in that category, only a few months ago.

        Even when Tom Cruise was jumping up and down and pitching a hissy about how bad psyche meds were, It didn’t get me too upset. Nobody was listening to his nonsense, as far as I could tell. So $cien actually continued seeming kind of harmless to me.

        Jesus H. tap dancing Christ, was I in for a shock!

  • Tom De Vocht ~~ Part 2

    Tom was formerly WDC
    FSO, a very very high post (Watchdog Committee over Debbie Cook and the Flag
    Service Org), he was personally selected by Shelly Miscavige to work for RTC to
    work for RTC building projects and he had a line to David Miscagive for
    years.
    He was high value, his knowledge of what went on was
    enormous.
    Marty Rathbun actually fled INT Base because of a beating he saw
    Miscavige give Tom which he eye witnessed. The “leader” of Scientology Inc.
    continued to kick Tom deVocht when Tom was on the floor.
    Tom Devocht was
    beaten/punched/ slammed against hard surfaces, kicked, pummeled, assaulted by
    Miscavige multiple times.
    This triggered Marty and he did indeed get on his
    motorbike and leave.
    The year was 2005.

    “Why Why Why did you put up
    with Miscavige for that long ? ” I asked Tom Devocht ? “Could you not have
    slugged the punk?” I asked.

    “Karen, I was in charge of putting buildings
    there, you can’t hide production when a structure has to be renovated, created
    and put there. By having a line with DM I could get the finance necessary, the
    personnel necessary and without that direct line to him ~~ it was all but
    impossible through the bureaucracy, I dare not upset the direct line to DM, it
    would have been death.”

    Tom was in charge and get the renovations done.
    To be posted as Commanding officer of the CMO in Clearwater the amount of
    production, dedication and results has to be enormous.
    After the complete
    renovations was done, Miscavige would change his mind and want it all re-done
    from scratch. Of course this would now go over -budget. This was all complete waste of raped and gouged funds from the hapless public at the Flag Land Base.

    One of the main
    accusations Miscavige hurled at Tom DeVocht was that he was “overspending and
    “wasting Org funds.” Examine what precipitated the “Waste.”

    Tom shared with me how source of the design, planning and labor being
    done over and over again and re-done was Miscavige. He kept changing and
    compulsively demanding a complete re-design from head to toe of what he
    previously approved of.

    There is a brutal brutal film called “Full Metal
    Jacket”. The vulgarity, violence and punching in the chest is a replica of
    Miscavige in action and especially the language. It was an all time
    favorite movie of Miscavige. See a clip
    ~

    There is a
    scene in the movie where the soldiers put bars of soap into a pillow case and
    beat the living crap out of another because hurling a pillow case with a bar of
    soap inside can be a weapon.

    Miscavige tells another Sea org member Tom
    DeVocht needs a beating like this (from the movie)

    Tom is starting to
    realize he cannot live like this. He has no resume, no references, no nothing.
    He has been in the Cult since he was 12 years old. He did have a pretty wife,
    Jenny deVocht (Jenny Linsen)

    One day Shelly Miscavige comes storming down
    the Campus and into Tom DeVocht’s face “You get your bitch away from my husband
    ~ she’s trying to seduce him !” Shelly screams. 2 days later Tom is summoned to
    building 50. Shelly is on fire “Get that bitch away from my husband she’s
    hanging her tits in his face…..” A few days later Shelly vanished and to this
    day she is gone from INT Base. Readers at the Bunker are well apprised of the Shelly story.

    Because Tom was a personal friend of DM
    for a stretch of time, they would go to ball games together, hang out in the
    evenings over scotch, Miscavige felt he could let his hair down with Tom. One
    day walking across rhe grassy leafy area near Del Sol, Miscavige said to Tom
    “You see that Mary walking by there ?” ( Mary was a Sea Org Member who walked by
    20 yards away) “She fantasizes my cock up her ass my sticking her finger up her
    rear end !” sneered Miscavige.

    It was surreal. There was nothing to say.
    Miscavige wanted utter and total respect while he mouthed sexual profanities
    ripping his own staff to shreds and silently it was accepted quietly by one and
    all. It was total power, he was as intimidating and fearful as any head of a Mafia family.

    One day Miscavige asked his assistant Lou how the staff were when they were awaiting his arrival in these Gold Base meetings he called late into the night with sleep deprivation Lou responded “The staff shiver and shake in their boots in terror ~ the tone level is terror” Miscavige howled with laughter.

    ~~To be
    continued

    • Mymy88

      I’m speechless, except for, where is Part 1? I can’t find it.

      • shasha40

        Earlier in the comments this morning , good luck ! Or you can look at Karen’s posts I believe .

      • Robert Eckert

        Sorted by Best it is right at the top.

        • Mymy88

          Duh! Why didn’t I think of that? I went to Karen’s comments like was suggested to me in a reply before yours. So thanks Robert and um… shoot, can’t remember who the other Bunkerite was, but I thank you both. I’m learning. I’ll get there eventually lol.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Karen, I think LilFiveOne needs to see the new revised poster for his favourite movie.
      And his best boyfriend needs to see the poster I made for him (1 in a new series of BOYCOTT posters:)
      Thank you.

    • Zana

      WOW. thank you, Karen!! These communications are POWERFUL!

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      This. . . makes me sick to my stomach. There is a special place in hell for you, DM.

    • Ella Raitch

      Please tell me Tom is living a wonderfully fulfilling life outside of the cult now. He’s had enough adversity for one lifetime

  • Mark

    Thanks to a dose of Norovirus—thankfully on the wane (Gods bless you, Dr. Collis-Browne)—and the fact that the flyers really are getting beyond parody, I have only one non-poster shoop to offer today (refresh):

    • shasha40

      Mission accomplished , you may be excused now . Get well soon ! Xoxo.. ( I’m a chick , deal with the smiley faces ! Lol , and that too . )

      • Mark

        Thanks, Shasha 🙂 Appetite returned yesterday: always a good sign!

        • shasha40

          Yay, that’s a real good sign ! 🙂

    • i-Betty

      Poor old bean 🙁 Are you okay? What a horrible thing to have. Are you being looked after?

      • Mark

        Feeling a lot better than I did on Thursday, thanks Betty, when it all went a bit Monty Python’s “table-wines of Australia” 😉

        • i-Betty

          (I’ve emailed you.)

        • Ella Raitch

          A touch of Perth Pink?

          • Mark

            More like Château Chunder, I’m afraid 🙁

    • Science Doc

      Hey, it’s not just for cruise ships anymore. In the US at Chipolte burrito resteurants it’s called the special of the day.

      • Mark

        Uurghh… when I was out earlier on I saw an ad at a bus-stop for some outfit now offering chipotle wraps or some such to amuse London’s palate…

        • Science Doc

          Lettuce and other uncooked veggies handled by minimum wage workers without gloves. South Park did an episode on Chipolte giving Cartman bloody diarrhea, but it really happened to me.

          • Mark

            For me it was rather more like ‘The Exorcist’ 😉

    • Chee Chalker

      Jenna Maroney on 30 Rock: Balls: https://youtu.be/7tTV0cBGbaM

      • Mark

        Snortle! 🙂

    • Perfection.

  • MaxSpaceman

    For all the kitteh adorers here. Whether you need some help tightening up your break dancing moves or what, our Cats are one major force in our lives.

    11 Reasons Your Crazy Cat Obsession Makes You Happier And Healthier http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/15/how-cats-help-us_n_6809820.html?cps=gravity_3405_-1026644852331937944

    • MrsLurksALot

      This is one of my furry babies, Zoe. And, she is a Princess, just sayin’.

      F5

      • Sandy

        Damn, I wish I could have another cat. My avi prevents that right now … miss kittahs

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    The dessert served at the Fort looks like a big fat turd with lots of blood.

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      Yuck! I saw an animal bleeding out, but a turd works just as well. There is something about the smear of red that is more “gore” than elegance.

    • Science Doc

      The next stage of human evolution will be fueled by eating bloody turds. They’re so smart I’m all confronted and shattered.

    • Sejanus

      Kind of appropriate given how the regging usual goes.
      Or it could just symbolize the glory and be a tribute to LRH…Large Rectall Hemorrhage

  • i-Betty

    Anonymous Hamburg have just put the finishing touches to the first video from Dublin’s “Enough is Enough” conference.

    This one is titled: ‘Jon Atack – Recovering from Scientology’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHXMWS9Wei4

    • RBE

      Thanks Betty, I was wondering about the Dublin videos just last night

      • i-Betty

        Anonymous Hamburg were good enough to film the entire event with excellent audio & video equipment, and they have just finished editing so I expect we’ll be seeing plenty more in the coming days 🙂

    • Super Power Wogsy

      “Scientology is a way of inducing and cloning sociopathic behavior. It makes people Narcissistic”

      Nicely said Jon. Thank you for sharing this video I-Betty.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        gee, i wonder why it is so appealing to average intelligence educated celebrities? LOL!..

    • i-Betty

      Forward to 26:07 to hear Jon talk about writing a suppressive declare of Miscavige.

      “In 1984 I wrote a suppressive declare of David Miscavite which was actually sent to all of the Scientology organisations, many of whom – because it was on yellow paper; goldenrod – actually read it out. There was cheering in the Chicago organisation that David Miscavige had been declared.”

      • Ella Raitch

        Might be a good time to repeat that prank

    • villagedianne

      Wow

    • beauty for ashes

      I have a very good friend who’s tagline was, “The challenge of everyday is to create a revolution of the heart.” I have no other way of describing this talk. Sooooo gooood!!!!!!

      • Super Power Wogsy

        Jon Atack is so humble. His humbleness is what makes his message get across so effectively. I can listen to him all day. His accent is soooooo soothing too. It is music to my ears. : )

    • MaxSpaceman

      Kudos to Anonymous Hamburg for the excellent post-production. A pleasure to view/hear.

  • Pierrot

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    They have slowed down for the birthday celebrations, enjoying themselves or rather kitchen & serving duties?

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    (F5, …for) Fanart by CRS enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15579043642/in/set-72157642802079293

  • Science Doc

    Way OT. Was out hiking this morning and stepped over this rock going up the trail. Going back down I saw the red diamond rattlesnake under the rock very clearly just before he alerted to my presence. Venomous snakes hiding under rocks — reminds me of something I read on a blog this morning. F5

    • Eileen

      OSA snake…

    • Mark

      Serpents! SERPENTS!!

    • Sandy

      Speaking of hiking, where’s Fred (DamOTclese) ?

      • Science Doc

        I’ve asked about him. Haven’t seen him here in weeks. If someone knows in in the real world it would be good to check.

        • Sandy

          Thanks. I agree.

        • noseinabk

          In the past few days I have seen him post on other sites under DamOTclese and another name he has used. Good to know he is ok.

    • Chee Chalker

      I am having heart palpitations looking at this picture. Snakes, alligators, spiders and Scientology……..four things I could live without!

      • eloise

        Oh my. I just realized Scientology fits in with my “things that begin with S” phobias. Snakes, Sharks, Spiders…

    • Sejanus

      Snakes, why did it have to be snakes?

      • Science Doc

        Snakes, planes, snake in a plane, plane on a golf course….

    • what’suppressive

      Awww American snakes are so cute, they even let you know they’re angry, not like the bad boys in Oz. We have lots of tiger snakes, dugite’s and brown snakes where I am…….all deadly. Not far from Enthralled Observer lives the #1 deadliest snake on the planet….. Inland taipan. But seriously rattle snakes are bad ass.

      • Science Doc

        I’ve been to Oz but not met those guys in the wild. You left out the wonderful and entertaining olive sea snakes of the Coral Sea which have wrapped themselves around me. If you don’t grab them they won’t bite, and if they bite they usually won’t envenomate.

        Rattlers often don’t rattle. The Southern Pacific and Mohave species often have neurotoxic venom. I had a Southern Pacific fall on me once. The Red Diamond pictured here looks bad but has the least toxic venom of Sonoran desert rattlesnakes. I’ve had dozens if not hundreds of venomous snake encounters, and I’m always on guard. Most people step right over them without ever seeing them.

        • what’suppressive

          Snakes are the least of one’s worries in Oz. Cont shells, box jellyfish, stonefish, a large emu like Forrest bird that’s angry as fuck, some nasty spiders, sharks….big sharks,crocs….. Big crocs and that’s just to name a few.
          Very few guns but, so where all really quite safe.

      • Kittery

        Ah, but you also have one of the cutest lizards on the planet, the blue tongued skink. I just love that critter!

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      And you stopped to take a picture?

      And the image isn’t blurry or anything.

  • nottrue
    • Donna Cline Sargent

      thank you so much

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tIiv2Ke5s

    Debbie Cook, and others ripp off and imprison an Italian woman for well over 2 million dollars. We need to let people know you do not need a passport to leave the country! The clam’s convince them that they are prisoners without one. Find away to get a hold of your countries embassy and tell them you need help and you are being held hostage. This poor woman was held by three guards which followed her, slapped her and locked up and forced to call and borrow money from friends. Debbie Cook was one of the worse. Had she got in touch of the Italian embassy she’d have been helped. Debbie Cook bought a new sports car with her cut of one the aggressive, million dollar,” donations”

    • villagedianne

      Thanks for this. Even relatively long-time Scientology watchers may not be aware of Gardini’s story.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        They bankrupt this poor ladt and didn’t even stop reggin her when her daughter or mother passed away. Get a Kleenex and prepare to get mad!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        At the end she basically had to sell everything to pay tax and the people she was forced by the clams to borrow. She did lend people money but at the end she was barely getting by. They not only had a crooked banker, who thought was on her side reporting back to the Clam’s but as she mentioned here a PI who was also aware of the money she had before she did. Relatives helped but like so many didn’t realize the extent of her loss until it was too late. They really turned up the heat after the death of her daughter and mother. Kick ’em when they fall down. In Italy this also made the news which might have been why she got(not sure if she ever got it) a symbolic refund.

        • beauty for ashes

          Didn’t her daughter go to Narcanon?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Yes her daughter had a drug issue and was recruited into the cult. Soon she had her Mother involved.

            • beauty for ashes

              Thanks Todd, I couldn’t remember how stinky narconon fit in.
              I’m glad you keep her story alive.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        You could be right, too. I heard a different story that inferred that she not only thought she had more money than she did but it wasn’t until later realized that the tax bill would clean her out. Heard she kept a small apt. and even had to let her maid of many years go. A proud woman that many liked with an infectious smile:)

    • Chee Chalker

      An important point for the OSA bots who read this blog………we all know how things ended up for Debbie Cook. Ultimately everyone becomes a victim of David Miscavige’s insanity. One day you are in a shiny new sports car, the next day you are standing in a garbage can wearing a sign that says ‘LESBO’ around your neck. Wake up and get out

      • MaxSpaceman

        Queen Cook fell like a rock. No, more like a boulder. Where’s her mea culpa; never seen her go there. Maybe someday, or not . . .

        • Chee Chalker

          I don’t know to what (if anything) Debbie has admitted. She looked like a broken woman when she was on the stand in Texas 2 – 3 years ago.
          I hope that the OSAbots and UTRs see these stories……..one day you’re sitting pretty, the next day you are dirt, getting your head bashed in…….NO ONE IS SAFE.
          I haven’t seen much in the way of mea culpas, other than acknowledging certain actions were stupid and guilty feelings for certain actions (like when Marty chased Annie Broker down and pulled her off a plane….he seemed to feel bad about that).
          That’s not to say they (the mea culpas) don’t exist. Just that I have not seen them.
          From what I hear, in ‘Going Clear’ Marty acknowledges that the Squirrel Busters are karmic retribution.
          I think they must realize their past actions were evil, but then again, I think some of them blame DM for everything and some of them might have continued, but for Miscavige throwing them in The Hole.
          Just like leaving and acknowledging. LRH was a lunatic, it’s a process. Maybe it’s too hard for Debbie to admit what she did to Maria Pia. So Debbie could hide behind the whole ‘I was doing what I thought was in Maria’s best interest, helping her get to OT VIII, because I have seen miracles with the LRH tech….’
          It’s difficult for me because they seem like nice people now, but from reading comments on this blog, I know (for example) that Marty is particularly reviled among certain exes. And now this video paints Debbie Cook in a terrible light.
          The stink of Scientology makes everyone smells bad.

          • MaxSpaceman

            Over years and years, Debbie, like Marty, had power behavior as modeled by Commodore Hubbard and Captain Miscavige, which caused massive trauma to large numbers of people.

        • MissBlueGown

          Don’t know much, but maybe a non-disclosure agreement? She certainly was a broken woman, and I never knew what that could possibly mean till I saw that video.

          • MaxSpaceman

            most definitely; with the financial settlement paid by the cherch, she signed something for sure.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            She is Living a disconnected life on the road and run.
            She is easy to track on the net.
            Dave paid her and Wayne well….but it still sucks.

          • villagedianne

            No doubt Cook sign an NDA. Strange story. Scientology sues her, then pays her money to make their lawsuit go away. So I guess we’ll never know her thoughts.

    • beauty for ashes

      “MOOOORE B-T’S?” What a beautiful woman and a great interview. <3 <3 <3 MPG

  • scottmercer

    Slightly OT, here’s my review of “Going Clear” that I posted yesterday on the IMDB. Enjoy. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4257858/reviews-3

  • Sid

    Tonight is the Patron’s dinner. There will be trophies!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I was in town this weekend. I saw a fella from Mexico with some type of commendation plaque. My picture was poor, but I will try to post tomorrow.

  • Sherbet

    I haven’t been around much since Friday. Has THDNE been here? I know she was beyond verklempt after the Garcia judgment, and I want to be sure she’s doing OK.

    • Jo

      I’m sure I’ve seen some posts. Not sure when but recent. Sorry my memory is rubbish.

    • MaxSpaceman

      she’s on prelim Spring Break it appears. been on a bunch and haven’t seen comments.

    • Sandy

      I know. Guess is she is taking a break.

      • Sherbet

        Everyone needs a break from cos entheta. But I miss those who are “on sabbatical.”

    • NOLAGirl

      I think the Garcia decision upset her and she said “holler at me when Dave is down a few billion dollars” (paraphrasing). I think she’s taking a break. I do hope she comes back though. Miss her already. 🙂

      • Sherbet

        Me, too.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Hey, Sherb! Is Cap’n Howdy ok?

      • Sherbet

        Hi, ‘plum. As far as I know, he’s been hunkering down at home for a few months.

        • sugarplumfairy

          It feels kinda empty in here w/o him!

          • Sherbet

            It sure does. But he’s the Greta Garbo of the Bunker these days, and I think he vants to be left alone. Not that that’s stopping some of us from begging him to pop in now and then.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Yeah, I was worried when I read that message she left. I fear our Hole does not exist for a time. Hopefully not TOO long.

      • Sherbet

        The Garcia thing was a kick in the gut to never-ins. I can’t imagine how much it hurt exes, especially one as passionate about justice as TH. We love you, THDNE. Take your time, but please bring your sensibility and heart back to the Bunker when you’re ready.

  • i-Betty

    I thought you might all like to see the Facebook banner/cover photo Panopea A has made with Tory in mind. She loves it 🙂

    Pan tells me: “There are 2 TICK TOCK diners – in New Jersey and on 8th Ave., right by Penn Station.”

    Do we know any whales who’d be prepared to fly Tory out to one of these fine establishments for some A* photo opportunities?

    F5

    • Chee Chalker

      We could just use Co$ tech and Photoshop Tori into the picture…

    • The desserts look a lot better than a smear of jam on a plate!
      http://theticktockdiner.com/

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Used to meet my girl friends at a Tick Tock in Parma Ohio, back in the 50’s.

      • i-Betty

        I love that story, Dee! Do you have any photos of the diner from that time? x

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Heck, wish I did. I believe it’s still there, not sure. On Brookpark Road

  • ze moo

    “To go on living requires that on penetrate the mysteries which are making him back up. And the greatest of those mysteries is the mystery of ‘Should I survive? Or should I succumb?”

    If you’re ‘backing up’, maybe some fiber would help. If only Metamucil were available in the 50’s, we might have been spared this verbal diarrhea. Lron word salad is indigestible. And no croutons…..

    • Eileen

      He rips off everyone… In this case “to be or not to be, that is the question.” Shakespeare said it better.

  • ShoopZ

    Here’s to Davey and Karen! Added a little something to someone else’s footbullet shoop.(refresh)

    • Tory Christman

      It was shocking for me to learn what a “footbullet” was in 2000! People kept saying it. I’d never heard
      the word before. OMG..do I get it now!! Congratulations to “dave” and his floor mats for continuing to shoot themselves in the foot, hence “footbullets” 🙂 OH YEAH! They did it with “ARS”…trying to cancel the newsgroup—ended up pulling in TONS of “Critics”, people never in. The more they attacked them, the more the critic movement grew.

      Next? Attacking the Ex-members, self included. I was NOT going to speak out OR make videos OR picket AT ALL. BUT: Do to their lies and “Fair game” actions, guess what? HERE I AM, 14 years later. Other ex’s too…both before me, and after me, are now speaking out.

      Next? Anonymous in 2008: 9,000 people picketed around the world. Why? $cientology insisted some
      stupid video of Tom Cruise was taken off the Net. Really $cientology? REALLY? I think Anonymous had a bit to say (and do) about *that*. Again, had C of $ left them alone—there’s a good chance they would have come, and gone. BUT—-thanks to their endless attacking of them, they stayed way, wayyyyy longer. 🙂

      Next big one? ALL the books the Exec’s wrote about Scientology! Suddenly the flood gates were open and now people around the world, including much of the media were now, finally able to speak out, say what they wanted, tell the stories. Just some were Mark Headley, Jefferson Hawkins, Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder, Nancy Maney…..there are TONS of new books, telling deep stories about this insidious organization.

      After Anonymous both Marty and Mike began to do interviews on TV/Nightline, along with their foot bullet wives still “in”, saying they “Knew every inch of their bodies” (Now known as the “inch wives” LOL)
      Plus other Ex’s.

      The amazing Tony Ortega has been writing about Scientology way before most media. He did my 1st interview, back in 2000, and I’ll never forget it. Later he started getting more and more involved, and NOW? OMG! He’s the king of exposure! (Way to go, “dave” and gang 🙂

      Another huge leap was Debbie Cook. Again, Debbie had run “Flag” for years in Scientology. She wrote a small E-mail to many people she had known, expressing 3 things she found wrong with her then ‘church’. They attacked the shit out of her, and from that, more and more people read her e-mail and LEFT!

      There are tons more….but onward to Lawrence Wright, writing the book: “Going Clear: Scientology & The Prison of Belief”. A year or so after, Alex Gibney (well known creator of excellent documentaries) got with Lawrence and 8 people and created this latest Documentary.

      Again, what does the “church” of $cientology do? PROVE WHAT ALEX AND LAWRENCE said is correct! The created horrific, nasty videos about not only each person in the documentary but also some people they had guessed would be in it. A 5 year old child could see their attempted manipulation, sliming of these people. They have also tried (and utterly failed) to slime Lawrence Wright and Alex Gibney. To quote Alex: “I didn’t think they’d pay $250,000 to promote my film”. LOL Ahhhh way to go,
      $cientology.

      To those “in” and lurking—you are NOT winning. Please STOP kidding yourselves. LOOK. Listen.
      Learn. Don’t believe me—I don’t care how you feel about me, it doesn’t matter! Learn the FACTS….ALL of the FACTS, and then make up your own minds. And ask yourselves this:

      WHY CAN’T SCIENTOLOGY SAY THAT?
      Love to ALL 🙂 Tory/Magoo

      • Enturbulated Masterbator

        “…pimp-assed, weasel filled…” is, perhaps, my new favorite quote! I am going to quote you for years to come. And your videos are some of the most entertaining. Go get ’em Tory!

        • Tory Christman

          LOL! I knew *someone* would love it, thanks, Enturbulated Masterbator 🙂 Will do!! Thanks 🙂

          • Aslan’s Own

            Tory, look at the video that Vaquera put up a few minutes ago. A woman with a ventriloquists dummy talks to that nice kid that you talked to on a video recently (he was standing outside of the Hollywood center and you told him he looked “spiffy”). He was actually conversing with the dummy and laughing. His name is Angel. I really hate that he’s mixed up in the cult.

        • Tory Christman

          Thank you, Enturbulated Masterbator! I knew
          *someone* would get it 🙂 <3 Yes! Yes! Will do 🙂

        • Tory Christman

          PS: If you’re going to use it though, you have to say it all: “Pimp-assed, weasel filled program”

          And to really nail it, add it who it’s to: “Shame on you, David Miscavige, for running such a pimp-assed, weasel filled “Program” against TDV and other ex-Scientologists”. That’ll work 🙂 TLC

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Thank you for spreading the word about the abuses of the cult, Tory–and as you point out, the amount of money that DM and his morinions have thrown at full page adverts and childish smear videos probably means that HBO hasn’t had to spend a cent of their own in advertising! (which they could usefully utilise with the 160 lawyers’ fees instead 🙂 )

        The footbullets are coming so thick and fast now, I suspect they might have to be upgraded to foot–nukes!

        • Tory Christman

          Very true, ScnMonkeyNuts 🙂

      • Bob

        I stopped lurking awhile ago Tory and I’m so glad I became active. You all deserve a lot of credit for helping me “out”. For those still lurking, take it from someone who has been to hell and back. The Cherch of Miscavige is a total fraudulent facade. I am current on both sides so no one can tell I don’t know what’s going on. And it’s worse than what you read.

        • Tory Christman

          Thank you SO much, Bob—I’m very, very happy you are out and speaking out, too. 🙂

          Yes! “Find out about $cientology: It’s worse than you THINK”. 🙂

          • Bob

            Thanks. As the heat increases on the cherch I see more and more crazy behavior inside.

        • aquaclara

          Stay safe, ok? And I am happy things are worse, but it’s hard not to think of the folks still in.

          • Bob

            Thanks. I see it almost everyday.

            • aquaclara

              You made some great progress from the “lurking” to “active” stage here. And Tory, she is a fireball. I love her openness and positive attitude.
              Your stories and notes resonate with people here. And there are lots more lurkers, testing the waters, getting a sense for what’s going on. The plane pic in your avi lets everyone know there is freedom and a gorgeous day waiting for them. Keep posting; you making an incredible contribution to the battle to end the hell for good.

            • Bob

              Thanks AC, it’s a slow road to hoe. There is however the light at the end of the tunnel. 🙂

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        In a twisted way, their stubbornness is actually fantastic.

        • Tory Christman

          ^ ^ Totally!! 🙂

      • One Human

        So very f’ing well said Tory!!!
        I give yout comment 47/47!!

        • Tory Christman

          Hey Thank you, One Human! 🙂 47/47? All right :)!

    • Melissa

      doesn’t Davey pretend to be a big fir arms buff?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Dave likes to shoot shotgun sports.

        • Melissa

          typical short man choice……..

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            . Lol, my hubby and I both shoot and we are both a head or two taller than Dave

            • Melissa

              yep…..I shoot competitively……lrsr remminington 700…..600 yards easy….

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              You are way better than me. I have to adjust my glasses and then swear a
              LOT. Just to hit a slow driven bird.
              And I can’t kill a rabbit with a tank!

            • Melissa

              I am fortunate to have a dear friend who is an army ranger….taught me how to shoot like he does…built me a rifle that is longer than davey is tall:

    • One Human

      A few dozen billboards of this.

  • Re: “Oh yeah, you know you want parenting advice from Scientology.”

    Posted to JennyAtLAX, “Orange County ‘Bait-and-Switch,'” March 15, 2015.

    https://jennyatlax.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/orange-county-bait-and-switch/

    • Melissa

      jeeennnnyyyy!

      • meeellliiissssssaaa!

        • Melissa

          now, as forest gump, “Jahnee”

  • Melissa

    the Davey jail theme pic of the day….

  • Theo Sismanides

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tom-Cruise-John-Travolta-Reform-the-Church-of-Scientology/895508510470102

    Hi guys, this is Theo. Though you know that I have a different view from Tony Ortega and most of you in regards to Scientology as a philosophy, we share many views in common in regards to a suppressively acting church.

    So, please give a like to the page I created about John Travolta and Tom Cruise to get them to stand up and demand to reform the church of Scientology.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Hi Theo! Just popping in and good to see you are here and never give up. Hope you have been well.
      Hugs, BTN.

      • Theo Sismanides

        Hi BTN, doing ok. Just expecting to see the new documentary. There is a lot of work in that. How are you doing?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I am great. Just super busy. I miss our sparring 🙂

          • Theo Sismanides

            Yeah, I got a lot of bruises on my face (not from you) but generally from sparring (lol)… Tough sport! What can I say! I devote my time to reading mostly, when I have time and then I also do more work here. Greece is under amazing pressure to become like other European countries, get with the program and be just like them. You know, old Europe style. I miss America.

            Looking forward to the documentary. That’s a good blow on DM’s face. Just love that.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Understand about Greece. You guys have had a rough couple of years. I keep my eye on you and think about you often.
              I am looking forward to this documentary as well.
              Take care my friend 🙂

            • villagedianne

              I hope there will be a version with Greek subtitles for the non-English speakers.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Hahahaha Theo and Vinay in one afternoon — feels like old times!

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Sssshhh, I just upvoted Theo. My hands are shaking.

    • i-Betty

      Hey, Theo. Good to see you 🙂

  • It’s late in the day but I thought I’d put the link up now for anyone still hanging around the Bunker today. Yesterday was kind of a crazy day for me because I gave a podcast interview about Scientology in the morning The podcast is Atheistically Speaking and should be up in a week or so. Then last night I went to a local atheist/skeptics group and gave my first live talk about Scientology to people who had never been connected with or associated with Scientology before. We recorded the discussion including my talk and the Q&A afterwards. It’s ridiculously long for a YouTube video but for posterity and interest sake, I posted it on my YouTube channel. I answered a lot of questions from the audience on various aspects of the cult including what The Bridge is all about, what the story is with “space aliens” and why celebrities are so important to Scientology’s success. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2rBYCxUXs&list=UUF326xyA0QHI7Z5xAwKQDJg

    • Stephanie Loving

      Chris I’ll watch anything you post. It’s always informative. I learn something every time. I love your youtube and podcasts. Keep on keeping on. And thank you!!

    • SNAFU

      I’ll second everything Stephanie said and add a congratulations on your first live talk! Can’t wait to listen to it. Keep up the good work, Chris!

    • Ardent

      I simply cannot believe that the RPF is legal in any way, shape or form.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        I agree Ardent, it does somewhat beggar belief–abuse is abuse even with ‘religious’ protection.

        • Ardent

          That’s what I think. I can’t understand why law enforcement doesn’t come down like a ton of bricks.

    • i-Betty

      It is so good that I’m at the 52 min mark and I don’t know where the time has gone. You have the audience in the palm of your hand. I love hearing them laugh and gasp at appropriate moments 🙂

      • romanesco

        He’s an excellent speaker.

        • Ardent

          I’m hooked!

    • Ardent

      The Wiggles?!

    • Ardent

      Brilliant, Chris!

    • i-Betty

      You are very generous with the time you allot for Q&A (often my favourite part of a talk).

    • Gabbyone

      I was particularly captivated by the response of the audience as well as their questions. Very well done, and thank you for sharing!

    • Graham

      Thanks for this Chris. Mrs Graham and I have just watched all the way through. Very impressive.

  • Vaquera

    Another photo from last night’s bday party. I hate it when I see kids on the Clearwater compound. (refresh)

  • ParticleMom

    So, what are my fellow Bunkerites’ plans for March 29th? I’m torn between having some friend over to watch Going Clear or watching it with all of you and live-blogging. I like the idea of seeing the reactions of those who have no idea about Scientology, but I hate the thought of missing out on spending the evening with those who understand how monumental this is. I’m in southeastern MA, if there are any Bunkerites in the area who need a place to watch it.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Can’t we do both?

      • Robert Eckert

        I’m probably going to watch it with my mom, who knows nothing about Sci-watching except that it’s one of my weird hobbies, with my computer in my lap to follow the Bunker live.

    • Sandy

      I got HBO only to watch it. I am sure I will cancel later. I may monitor the bunker that night, but I will mainly wanna watch the movie.

      • Just Dee

        Binge watch Game of Thrones while you have your HBO. It’s on HBO to go, all seasons. It’s a great show so you should give it a try while you still have your HBO

        • Sandy

          Thanks. I read the books. But I quit them after 3, cuz I I hated that my fav characters kept getting killed.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Me too!

    • aegerprimo

      Will be watching it with my husband and my best friend, both of who only learned about my involvement with the cult 2 years ago when I made my first post at ESMB and here at the Bunker. I probably won’t be here for the live blogging since I want to watch their reactions and answer questions if they have any.

    • Ella Raitch

      I’ll be completely relying on the live blog – don’t let me down Bunkeroos!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I will be in Clearwater with IPad ( and a full wineglass) in hand!!!

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Yay! I’ll be there too, possible more coming. It will be fantastic!

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        I’ll be relying on the live blog too and, bearing in mind the book was never released this side of the pond, I don’t hold out much hope of the documentary making it over here either *sigh*

        • Super Power Wogsy

          What side of the pond is that my friend?

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            Cup ’o tea, fish ’n chips, bad food, worse weather 🙂 (England)

            • i-Betty
            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Thank you for the link i–Betty, a very generous Bunkerite has kindly mailed me a copy from the US, and it should be arriving in the next couple of weeks 🙂 (I was complaining about only being able to find a German language version on my Kindle, it never occurred to me to try that! D’oh!)

            • Robert Eckert

              So you’re one of those girls who orders books from France that decent English girls don’t read, huh? Did it come in a plain brown paper wrapper?

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              lol–it better have, you never know what you’ll get from France 🙂

            • i-Betty

              Borne in the saddlebags of a Cornish smuggler under the cover of darkness, Bob!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Sir. I’m already jealous of you.Tea,fish and chips and bad weather are my FAVORITE things : ) Sorry the book was not released there. Did you try downloading it? Here is a spot of tea from my kitchen to you.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Thank you SPW, I’ll savour the tea, and another generous Bunkerite has mailed me a copy from the good ol’ US of A. if you happen to be in the UK and on the south coast, look me up and we can go for Tea at the Grand, followed by fish ’n’ chips on the beach!

              Edited

            • Super Power Wogsy

              *gasp* It already sounds like an afternoon made in heaven. I’ll take you up on that offer. I’ve never been to the UK, and I’m not familiar, but I’ve always wanted to visit. I’m from the the SF Bay Area so bad weather and beaches is basically home to me. Which beach if you don’t mind me asking? I love google walks on the internet. : )

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Brighton (the Monkey house is in Hove, actually, but the Grand Hotel is in Brighton!)

            • i-Betty

              I love Brighton. I’ve been obsessed with the Pavilion’s architecture and interiors for 20 years, and now I’m obsessed with Choccy Woccy Doo Dah, not that I can ever get in through the door because it’s packed to the roof, but I can watch it on TV and drool 🙂

              However…parking prices! Mum and I parked in a multi-story on the seafront and were charged £26 for 4 hours. 26 pounds!

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              The parking is a bit ridiculous–but that’s because we have a Green council and they want to encourage the use of public transport. If you want to visit again I can do temp parking permits for £2·60 for a day (I’ll not say which zone here, but it is very close to the centre of town–message me on one of my old comments and I’ll give you the Monkey contact details). I pass Choccy Woccy Doo Dah on my way to my favourite fountain pen shop, and as you say, it is always rammed! I love the architecture of the whole area, and wish I’d moved here many years sooner.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Looks beautiful! Would love to visit. Just don’t tell me you love Tedtalks or I will have to cage you. *snickers* i’m jk ((hugs))

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              (Had to google Tedtalks 🙂 ) It’s a fantastic place to live, vibrant and multicultural–and you’d meet the kittehs too!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              I’m more of a Bunker addict but Tedtalk is second while Lindsey stirling music is 3rd. But I just had a Bunker flashback. You had the cute black kitteh and you were excited about the new Star Wars movie just as much as me. Bunker match made in heaven. You are my new Bunker Bestie. Which means you get endless margaritas, tequila sunrise, tea, creme brulee, homemade popcorn and you get seats in the jealousy box with me. : ) yay! Brighton is gorgeous. beejeezus.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Yup, that’s me (have a kitteh photo!) Liking the sound of endless margaritas (or indeed anything containing alcohol 🙂 ) and frankly, you had me at that… but tea, creme brulee and homemade popcorn too (swoons) and we musn’t forget NOLAGirl’s Jealous Marys for when we’re in the jealy box, hooray :). I graduated from Operation Clambake about two years ago, and was a ghost guest upvoter for about 9 months before setting up my disqus account last year, and now am a confirmed Bunker addict, so to have a Bunker Bestie is awesome! Thank you. I’ll have to look into Tedtalk and Lindsey Stirling (I’m more of a Floyd fan, but I like pretty much any music). The Bay Area looks beautiful too (thank goodness for google maps!), and I’m a sucker for anywhere near the sea as I love sailing.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              awwww *blushing* Tedtalks sir Tedtalks! : ) Well I’m an ex behind enemy lines now. But I started posting here last year. I was not well versed in Bunker etiquette, so I just jumped right in without lurking.*snickers* When I’m not playing round here, you will see my Redx posts.That is so cool that a never-in is so interested in Scientology. You get lots of hugs for that Bunker bestie. xoxo

              P.S. Love your kittehs!!!! : ) When I do get a cat, it will be black as well, and I plan to name him D’artagnan.: ) (hope I spelled that correctly)

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Apologies (hangs head in shame) I’ll get that right when I search for it 🙂 –so glad you made it out. There is a bit of back story to my interest–my best mate is a stuntman, he was working in The Edge of Tomorrow (alongside TC–well, I say that, he’s quite tall so it’s more a case of loomed over!!), and as I’d seen that South Park episode, I took an interest and read up about $cientology. The more I read, the less I could believe my eyes, and I fell down the rabbit hole of astonishment. I read Bare Faced Messiah, A Piece of Blue Sky, The Anderson Report and the UK government report in fairly short order (all at that time archived on OC–I have since bought the re–released Blue Sky), and kept saying to myself “This can’t be right”, so now I do my best in my own limited way. I’m autistic (which is why I lurked for such a long time, testing the waters!) and find it quite difficult to get out of my house, but I do donate to blogs and groups that are spreading the word (and taking more pro–active measures) against that abusive group.

              You get loads of hugs too, for having the strength of character to break the bonds of Hubbard’s prison in the mind xoxoxo

              I think D’artagnan is an awesome name for a cat (however it’s spelled–he won’t know, I certainly don’t 😉 ), and I can say from experience that he’ll bring you great joy! (mine have for me).

              I usually announce my departure, but it’s late here (passed 3:30am), so I’ll just say night night to my new Bunker bestie. Sleep well, see you tomorrow SPW xo

              Edit to remove PII about my friend–oops

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Yes we were made to be Bunker Besties.: ) I have so much to ask you, but we will catch up on another day. Muchos besos para ti mi amor! Muah Muah Muah! Goodnight.

        • I bought my copy from Amazon.co.uk shortly after it was released. The threat of legal action prevented it being published by a English company, but US editions are freely available here.

          Also, it will be ‘available’ over here, one way or another…

    • Sherbet

      I wish I were closer to your area, Mom. It would be a date.

      • ParticleMom

        I wish, too!

    • Ella Raitch

      I was hoping to have the day off but looks like I’ll be in the office – yippee for two screens

  • nottrue

    ……

    • Observer

      Love the last line!

    • Mymy88

      It’s a ‘Going Clear’ party and you’re invited Miscavige! Bring all your friends and BYOFB.

      *bring your own foot bullets (Did I really need to specify that? I didn’t think so).

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He’s going to a dog fight that night or dressing up to haunt the alleyways of Hollywood Blvd? Do theatens hide or just muck up in seminal fluid?

  • D.Y.G.

    The first rule of a confectioner or pastry chef is that one never, ever makes chocolate look like poo. This went one step further into “GI Bleed”.

    • D.Y.G.

      Ok, I’m exaggerating “first rule”. But you definitely don’t make poo-looking confections out of chocolate.

    • Vaquera

      Here’s another less than appetizing shot of the same dessert. (refresh)

        • Juicer77

          LOLOL!

      • D.Y.G.

        Oh boy.

      • Cupcakes for Breakfast

        I’m an ICU nurse. I’ve SEEN things. This looks like something from a very, very bad day at work.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ouch!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          A burst colostomy bag?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        I’d look right at home on that plate.

        • beauty for ashes

          so so so so wrong ……*snort*snort*chuckle(covers mouth) BWAAAA!

        • Super Power Wogsy

          *snickers*

      • Juicer77

        So many layers of unappetizing pretentiousness!

        • Sherbet

          I’d pick out the chocolate almonds — they look good — and leave the rest for a hamster, preferably one who doesn’t see too well and is very, very hungry.

          • Aslan’s Own

            Those are almonds? I was trying to figure out what they were!

            • Sherbet

              I think.

    • aegerprimo

      With hemorrhoids.

    • Observer

      It may have been less repulsive had it been made by someone with some training rather than hungry, sleep-deprived slave labor. If Captain Miscavige’s micromanagement goes all the way down to the level of dessert, that could also explain it.

      • One Human

        The fear of displeasing him does.

    • ShevilKat

      That’s the first thing that came to mind–someone needs an emergency colonoscopy.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Ruth Eckert = high school auditorium.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And a high school in a not particularly progressive Southern state at that…

  • Observer

    I haven’t been here much today, so I apologize if someone has already done something along these lines.

    refresh

    • Sherbet

      A well-needed laugh, Observer.

    • Ella Raitch

      Now I want a Tiny Tom is the only one who can help series!

    • April Moonlight

      heee.. Observer that was the funniest photo, Tiny Tom scaling desserts to rush to help 😀

  • The Freewinds is still in Aruba. I actually saw someone walking on deck!
    http://portarubawebcam.com/

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Did it look as if they were trying to escape or were they in leg irons? Love a screenshot of that as I never see activity when i look at it.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Did it look like they were tying strips of sheet together to climb down?

  • Sarah James

    Marina, I know you are about to hear your mother talk to you as she never has berfore. The best way I can describe it, it will feel like a ton of bricks dropped on you. Your feelings will be hurt, but soon it will be replaced with anger, because you will no longer be able to trust her bizarre way of thinking. Trust your gut. When scientology comes crashing down you and your uncle will be the ones standing up for her.

  • Sookie Sookie
  • Sid

    Patron’s dinner has braised short rib for main course and pistachio cake for desert among other treats.

    • Observer

      I can’t imagine being on a diet of Sea Org slop and having to cook this kind of stuff for self-important asses who look down their nose at you. CARDONE!

      • Sid

        And cigars. Cardone will love that.

      • Sid

        The Sea Org staff will drift into the kitchen later to pick at what is left on the plates. This includes executives (as observed previously).

    • Sandy

      Sid. You are so brave.

      • Sid

        Or stupid.

        • Sandy

          no. You are a warrior.

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            ^^ with you about, we get first hand knowledge of the current nuttiness. Thank you Sid. I salute you, sir! (Stands to attention)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ok, I upvoted…. But there is a qualifier! 🙂

          • Sid

            Teasing OSA should be a national pastime. Edit to add, I did say “It’s almost like,,”.

        • Robert Eckert

          Well, if you’re caught, what are they going to do, kick you out?

          • Without regging him first? Inconceivable!

            • Sid

              I know right?

        • aquaclara

          Win! Laughing my ass off….

        • Jenstnick

          You are my hero

    • The Dude

      Short rib is all the rage for a couple of years.
      Couldn’t sell it to the beautiful people till about 7 years ago.
      Rising price of beef. Chef’s go for a cheaper cut. And then cook the shit out of it.

      • Sid

        There is also some broccoli and some kind of liquid squash thing.

        • Mark Foster

          liquid squash thing: lost and confused bt’s dramatizing

          • Sid

            The vegetable, yes kind of like BTs.

        • The Dude

          They over cooked the butternut squash puree! Quick fix: Add mashed potatoes and more salt. They have too much water absorbed into the squash.

          • Sid

            It’s baby fennel and squash. Yuck! Send it back.

          • How sad! You can do nice things with butternut squash, but none of them involve “liquid”.

            • Sid

              It’s like pablum.

            • The Dude

              Agreed. If you get to the liquid stage. Add heavy cream and call it the soup.

            • Cupcakes for Breakfast

              I am HERE for the cooking tips! 🙂

            • Sid

              They could have used you at the Patron’s dinner.

            • Decorate with grated carrot.

      • aquaclara

        I want a recipe, but there’s this story unfolding, and have to dash. Sid, what’s the rest?

        (Great conversation here…you two are great).

        • The Dude

          Start with boneless short ribs.
          Salt and pepper them generously.
          Brown in oil . On both sides.
          Cut carrots celery and onion. Rough chop.
          Arrange the meat in a roasting pan with veggies on top.
          Cover meat with a mixture of red wine and beef stock.
          Add parsley stems and thyme leaves with a few black pepper corns.
          Cover thr pan with aluminum foil, and cook for 2 to 3 hours.
          350 f.

          • Sid

            That sounds good but they totally undercooked the meat at the Patron dinner. I don’t like it red.

            • The Dude

              Throwing my hands up in disgust. That is a insult to short ribs! This chef is done#

            • Sid

              I agree! I’ll never eat there again.

          • aquaclara

            Oh, so fabulous. I can actually do this! You are the best. And you and Sid have made my day.

            ;)thank you!

  • aegerprimo

    I’ve been seeing this banner at sites reviewing and promoting the ‘Going Clear’ documentary.
    (refresh for screenshot)

    • Observer

      I am concerned that the sheer amount of bawwing butthurt emanating from the Clampire may disrupt the space-time continuum.

      • i-Betty

        Not a tear in the bifurcated trousers of time?!

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          Ah, yes–but which leg of the trousers of time is torn?

          ETA: and how difficult is it going to be to repair?

          • i-Betty

            You should be locked up for “hem, hem”, but it made me do one of those little surprised snorts of laughter, so thank you for that 😀

      • beauty for ashes

        I just looked in my telescope, severe butthurt. F5!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The placement of that red button makes me think the butthurt is manifesting itself…!

    • I have noticed that there a lot of posts on YouTube claiming to be the film, but don’t know if they are CofS propaganda plants, or everyday cons that indicate how keenly anticipated the film is.

      I suspect a little of both – but mostly the latter..

  • MaxSpaceman

    From the Lincoln Center Website, notice of the showing, in New York City, for Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences consideration, of “Going Clear.” Here’s a still, as Jason Beghe appears in the film.

    • beauty for ashes

      Where’s Baby? Its a really striking picture of her boyfriend Jason Beghe!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Yeah, where is she. Maybe at her new job?

        • beauty for ashes

          Or dead asleep from the teenage whoop ass she received! 🙂

    • Kim O’Brien

      sarong …totally

  • MaxSpaceman

    8:40pm EDT. HBO runs the trailer for “Going Clear.” – Very powerful.:)

  • Miscavige is ahead of the trend. Right now, the hot item is the selfie-stick, but he has a selfie-boomstick!

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      And boy, is he ever putting it to good use! CoB should mean Cretin of the Board 🙂

      • Mark Foster

        Cretin of the Bunghole (nod to Beevis and Butthead)

        • ScnMonkeyNuts

          Damn! Knew there was something that could be done about the ‘B’–nice one, Mark 🙂

        • Super Power Wogsy

          Welcome back sir! We missed you. : )

        • Observer

          Are you threatening me? ARE YOU THREATENING ME?!

        • The Dude

          Heh heh! He said Bunghole!
          YEAH! YEAH!
          Bunghole! Bunghole!
          Need TP for my Bunghole!

          • One Human

            Hats off to the poor ones who don’t have TP.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Mr. Hat?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Howdy, Mr. Foster.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    elle, a $cientology troll (and OSA volunteer, I suspect,) had this to say on the Disqus-powered comments over at THR:
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/scientology-final-say-going-clear-781242

    ….. bla bla bla …. ” PS For you hate mongers, my email is not letting me reply to your responses to me. I’m sent to other articles. Interesting how only this article redirects me. But I thought you would be happy to hear it.”

    Power over MEST ?
    Disqus defeats an OT VII or VIII.
    Or maybe spending too much time on the cans kills your Interwebz tech?

    • Sergeant Pepper

      Exactly what I thought. Glad no one called her on it as it was just too easy and a little mercy seemed appropriate there.

  • BigMcLargeHuge

    Well an HBO doc (The Jinx) just got Robert Durst arrested for murder after he got away with it for decades. Documentaries can be powerful things.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Damn! Spoiler alert!!

    • AnyOldName1

      Oooooooh! I so wish the Poopy of $cientology had consented the interview Gibney had REPEATEDLY requested…. He could have incriminated himself just like Durst!

      • Robert Eckert

        Miscavige is crazy, but he’s not stupid.

        • Liam

          I humbly disagree. I think Miscavige is so very stupid, that he is likely an implant designed to ruin scientology from the inside out.

          • Robert Eckert

            Only if LRH was also an implant designed to ruin scientology.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          He could really have it made minus the abuse. That shows me that not only is he stupid in certain ways but sadistic, too. Maybe his tone scale poster is just upside down in his room. Sure does need a check up from the neck up. Doesn’t seem to be a happy person.

    • April

      And the Catholic church got a new pope 4 months after Gibney’s documentary on child sex abuse within the church.

  • romanesco

    http://www.milner.com/jumpstart/jumpstart-tampa

    Voting for Pinellas County Humane Society to beat out a Scientology school for a private grant starts shortly.

    • Observer

      Thanks for the reminder!

    • i’ll post the early AM reminder!!

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Thanks. Be on it tomorrow! “How many persons does this organization serve” Washburn 149 — Humane society 10,000.
      Interesting, well, they got all their votes from clams.

      • beauty for ashes

        Not to mention how many animals the Humane Society serves too!

    • Rhea

      Just voted. Thx for the reminder!

  • Super Power Wogsy

    The Orange County Org will always be the landmark that is forever etched in my mind as the beginning of my seven years of bad luck. Seriously, I should have opened that damn email chain letter. I”m surprised it is still even open. A 16 million dollar building of nothingness.

    • Mymy88

      I’m sorry Wogsy. How awful for you. Years and years ago when my brother started getting involved in $cien, I had no idea that I should have been absolutely horrified.

      At first, I just thought it was some kind of self help thing and no big deal. I’m glad you got out, and of course, I’m glad my brother left long ago, also.

      • Super Power Wogsy

        awwwww Thank you Mymy. No need to be sorry. Honestly, i just walked away from the love of my life. Everything else I’m rebuilding and recouping. My family members are not Scientologists thankfully. It’s been only a year since I left, but they have been the foundation in my recovery. I start my internship soon, so the rebuilding is going well. But you know what? It was a lesson in my life that needed to be learned. For me, the lesson is when you separate yourself from your own morals, you suffer massive consequences. I was high on my horse at the time, and seriously needed to be brought down. $cientology was the worst thing that has happened to me in my life, and compared to other victim’s, my story looks like a vacation. It’s a scar that will always live in my heart, but it won’t ever happen again. I’ll just be better person for the next relationship and any other friendships. (Hopefully) lol

        • Mymy88

          It does not matter that you feel like you got off kind of light so-to-speak, compared to some others, because you’ll have a huge advantage in terms of helping people when they leave $cien.

          I have a feeling there will be quite a few of them in the not too distant future. Yes Ma’am. I sure do. I bet I’m not the only one, either.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            Thanks. Just one last bit to add. I went into Scientology wanting to help people. I gave a lot of money to them, because I am the type of person who will give up large sums of money for a good cause. I also walked away from my life and relationship but i won’t get into that. Here’s the thing. I am still the same fucking person. The only difference is that money will no longer be going to Scientology. And I’m going to make sure all you fucker clams know about it.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              …maybe not as much but you get what I’m saying right? lolol

            • Mymy88

              Hell yeah! Wogsy’s rebel yell!

            • Liam

              Just remember, you can sue for anything.

            • beauty for ashes

              “I am still the same fucking person” …except maybe now you say Fuck and fucker a little bit more often 🙂

            • Super Power Wogsy

              *blushing*

            • Liam

              SPW, I never really knew your story. I hope, as a never in, i didn’t offend. Just glad you are here.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              no offense taken sir.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              i am editing for privacy

            • Liam

              Edit away, SPW. I hope you know you have a friend here.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              appreciated

        • Liam

          Did you have to deal with disconnection, SPW?

          • Super Power Wogsy

            No. I was given an ultimatum by my significant other. It was a choice I made. It was hard time for us. At one point he did ask to get back together while I was in the middle of my auditing services, but I had signed a promissory note to not see him again. soooo no not really disconnection.

            • Liam

              I need education, since I’m a never-in. Why isn’t that disconnection?

            • Super Power Wogsy

              I get what you mean by disconnection. However, he was the one that technically initiated. He gave me an ultimatum, and I chose Scientology. I never wrote a formal disconnection letter. By the time I started my auditing services, we were broken up for 3 months, and I had already moved out.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              edited lol

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I’ll be the love of your life on the inter web anyway!

  • Sejanus

    The model of the new LRH building made me think of Albert Speer.

    • Ardent

      Too much glass. But the pillars, yes.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Close enough! 🙂

    • BosonStark

      Looks like the Super Power building.

    • Missionary Kid

      Speer had better taste.

  • Bob Gravlin

    May God have mercy on people who have ignorantly and innocently fallen into that stupidity called CO$, and grant them and their families freedom from this nonsense.

    • beauty for ashes

      AMEN!

  • BosonStark

    The documentary on Durst, which included Durst as a participant, led to the documentary filmmakers finding evidence the police didn’t find, and now he is strongly suspected in three murders. He also made kind of a mumbling or whispered confession the filmmakers picked up on audio which some legal experts say will be admissible.

    This is why David Miscavige does not want to be interviewed. Anything he says, whether it’s about him lying about Hubbard’s glorious accomplishments, grabbing power after Hubbard died, or there is no Hole, or he doesn’t beat his underlings, or he didn’t put his wife in exile — all these things would be incriminating. They are so incriminating he can’t even let their spokescreature attempt to answer questions. Miscavige’s silence is his admission of guilt.

    • Observer

      Captain Miscavige’s terror condition is in power, shooting straight up and vertical!

    • beauty for ashes

      I will probably not get to see it any time soon. I’m very curious about his reasoning.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Was telling a neighbor about the upcoming HBO showing about a very odd, quasi-religious cult. So they asked, What is a scientologist. I said, let me share with you a Haiku which captures the essence of what’s being dealt with in the documentary:

    • Super Power Wogsy

      Haiku please! Haiku please! : )

      • MaxSpaceman

        F5

        • Super Power Wogsy

          Oh yes yes. One of my favorites. ; )

          • MaxSpaceman

            🙂
            repeating in honor of the 29th ~

          • MaxSpaceman

            And my neighbor asked me, Who’s in the HBO documentary? I answered,

            Jason, Spanky, Mike,
            Hana, Sara, Marty, Paul,
            Tony, Tom DeVocht.

  • flyonthewall

    Lego Apollo is underway. Should be done next week. Most ambitious and challenging build yet

    • Super Power Wogsy

      haha!

    • beauty for ashes

      Lego Apollo? Oi vey. ***sigh*** I was gonna try to make a joke and horror stories just flashed in my head. Kids in chain locker, SO cleaning out the bilges, the impossible “suicide”

      • flyonthewall

        those three scenes are finished. Struggling with technical build of front/back of ship now. Overboardimg, peanut race and more will be incorporated. This will be my magnum opus 😉

        • beauty for ashes

          Holy shit! Well I’m sending you some white light (I know WOO!) while you work on that. That sounds really hard. I seriously am floored and humbled. That would tear my soul to pieces. Mad respect.

          • flyonthewall

            thanx, I’ll need it

          • Super Power Wogsy

            love the woo girl…love the woo : )

          • villagedianne

            I love the woo too.

            • beauty for ashes

              I’ll send you some white light too Dianne and Wogsy!

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Just in time for the countdown 🙂

      10, 9, …

  • Mymy88

    Bump.

    Tory Christman

    Ginger Sugerman

    29 minutes ago

    True…one of THE sickest things I heard L Ron Hubbard say was that
    “kids should be out of school and working by age 15”. We had to FIGHT to
    get our kids educated. Truly—-$cientology sucks in many more ways
    than one.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    That L. Ron Hubbard Hall model is INSPIRED. And here’s what I think inspired it:

    (Refresh!)

    • Gee wow, like I haven’t seen those balls before—in Clearwater—paid for with the taxpayer’s dime!

      Big, round and mysterious November 30, 2007, Mike Donila, St. Petersburg Times

      Oh hai, Clearwater, you got skruuuuwed!

      http://www.sptimes.com/2007/11/30/images/tb_ThoseCrazyBollards_450.jpg

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      It’s kinda sad when we hang out here enough to recognize the random clams in the photos. That’s the greasy Jim “UN Commands You to be Happy!” Mathers. I believe he’s married to the hooker from Full Metal Jacket.

      • I think he’s also an honorary Not Quite White Devil of the Nation of Islam.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          That’s the hardest I’ve laughed on here in at least a week. That particular status means they still think it, but don’t say it to your face. Take it from me.

          • A NOI-Scientology meeting wouldn’t be complete without added thought balloons of what they’re all really thinking!

    • My friend’s kids used to have something like that ball so for their hamster.

      Perhaps selected members of the Sea Org will be put inside and allowed to run about. Like hamsters everywhere, they could have the illusion of freedom without being able to get away.

  • Kim O’Brien

    i LOVE that Sam Harris commented on twitter about Going Clear . Geek crush . I am going to buy the shit out of this movie as soon as i can . I miss Christopher Hitchens 😉

    • Mymy88

      Oh my gosh! Me too! I love Sam Harris. Thanks for posting about that. I’m going to go look at his post.

  • Enturbulated Masterbator

    Just saw a Krustie fat fighters commercial. How many times is she going to lose that same 60 pounds?

    • beauty for ashes

      I seriously thinks this time she had a full body lift which means removing a lot of the excess skin. Its gonna be real bad if she gains it again.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Isn’t “yo yo” dieting what they all agree decreases long term weight loss?

  • Vaquera

    Two random Vine vids of a ventriloquist doll talking to a Sciloon outside their building on Hollywood Blvd. RANDOM.

    https://vine.co/v/O2HgAuOwJKb
    https://vine.co/v/O2Hg2qbm0U6

    • Aslan’s Own

      He was trying not to smile! Isn’t that the guy that Tory talked to recently and he stood there for a long time listening?

      • Vaquera

        I don’t know.

        • Aslan’s Own

          Here’s the video – you first see him around 1:50 and Tory talks to him for awhile.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-U737YaB8

          • Vaquera

            Yessir. That’s the same guy. He’s to relate to inanimate objects more comfortably than to live people. Scio probably has a course for that.

            • Aslan’s Own

              Probably no humans talk to him out there except to say “no, I don’t want a personality test” and Tory.

            • Juicer77

              Better than being screamed at inside.

            • Aslan’s Own

              No kidding!

            • Liam

              Good point, Juicer:)

          • Ella Raitch

            Love your work Tory!

            eta – what a sweet kid….my heart weeps for the waste!

    • Aslan’s Own

      Here’s the full video of the second one. He’s laughing, talking to the ventriloquist dummy. Probably the most fun he’s had in a long time. I wish he would get out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwI2tn1czUU

      • Vaquera

        ASLAN…..YOU SO TOTALLY ROCK!!!!

        • Aslan’s Own

          Hahaha! I really don’t but I’ll take the compliment!! 😉

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So the dummy is the one on the right… or the left…?

        • Aslan’s Own

          Poor guy.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        This one would make an ideal member. She already has the stare down perfectly:

        (Refresh!)

        • Aslan’s Own

          You’re right!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          The poor young man his TRs are lacking in unentusiasm.

  • Liam

    I hear through the grapevine the Scilons are upset about this movie… too late, it’s been released

    • The Kraken has been released!

      • Liam

        Well done, dodo! Hilarious:)

  • ‘Going Clear’ was awesome. I never though that a 2 hour film could so completely and accurately capture the monstrosity that is Scientology. It made me laugh and it made my cry. My two favorite parts of the film were:

    -When Jason Beghe says, “Scientologists are full of shit.” Then he goes on to do a mocking facial expression that resembles what Scientologists actually look like. I was laughing so hard.

    -When Marty Rathbun describes what it is like to have to continually see himself and be reminded of his actions when he was in the Sea Org. I have never seen someone look so sad and defeated. He was talking about Karma, and I wanted to grab him and say, “Fuck Karma. Stop beating yourself up. You don’t deserve this.” It was so hard to watch and it really brought me to tears.

    Alex Gibney did a wonderful job taking everyone through the history of Scientology all the way to present day and covering all the scandals along the way.

    It was especially satisfying to hear John Travolta and Tom Cruise exposed for the assholes that they truly are. Spanky, Rathbun, Rinder, Gibney, and even David Miscavige (through the recordings of him interspersed throughout the film) all had a hand in demonstrating how these movie stars callously ignore the abuse happening right under their nose, and to people that they have the nerve to call friends.

    Almost equally satisfying was watching the words, music, and recordings of the Scientologists turned against the Scientologists and used to demonstrate just how insane the cult really is.

    I took a friend with me that has had no exposure to Scientology. She walked out shaking her head. She had no idea what to think. She cried at several parts, laughed at others, and just shook her head at things like the field of flowers that was planted for Tom Cruise.

    The film is riveting and emotionally taxing. I think that everyone, besides the Scientologists, will enjoy watching this documentary.

    • villagedianne

      Please post this again tomorrow, Derek. I’m sure more people will want to hear your impressions than the relatively few that come here this late.

      • Tony Ortega

        The few? The hell you say. It’s the shank of the evening here and prime time on the West Coast. Show ’em, evening crew!

        • That’s what I was about to say. It’s only 9 o’clock here. I am just now watching Walking Dead and finishing dinner.

          • villagedianne

            Yes I forgot about the West Coast. It’s midnight here and I AM the walking dead.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              hell yeah Derek! Wasssssssuuuppp! Cali where you at?

            • Right here where we’ve always been! Enjoying the summer weather while the rest of the nation is waiting for spring.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Woot! Woot! I’m a cali girl too : )

            • Jenstnick

              West side bitches!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              right?!?

            • Liam

              Yo 3.14159265359

            • Tory Christman

              **Never** Forget the West Coast! We never forget you all 🙂 (Sleep tight 🙂

            • Ella Raitch

              Ooo – I get to watch the next episode in about an hour. Who will Carol freak on next?

        • Hey! The East Coast is still awake too!

          • Super Power Wogsy

            barely zzzzzzzz

        • Mymy88

          And I’m a vampire lol.

        • Melissa

          we are just getting started villagedianne………

        • Liam

          West coast, represent

          • romanesco

            3.14159

            • Liam

              Good number of digits. Thank you. I memorized 20 digits

            • romanesco

              I didn’t memorize anything. I copy/pasted it from Wikipedia. Only reason I said it was because Dodo said “pie.”

            • funnybroad

              Pie!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              haha! love it!

            • Mymy88

              Yesssssssssssssss!

            • Ex-Christian Scientist

              LOL!

            • Liam

              I just spent like an hour memorizing that pi crap, all for naught:)

        • funnybroad

          I’m still up here in D.C. waiting for someone to say pie.

          • Pie

            • Liam

              How many digits did you mean:)

            • funnybroad

              *phew* Thanks… now I can get some sleep!

          • Ella Raitch

            Some people like applie pie – some like cherry pie

            I like funnybroad pie! But it’s so bad for my figure!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          We’re just getting started here on the Left Coast.

        • Jenstnick

          Exactly, my snark comes alive once I climb in bed with my iPad and read through the comments. Plenty of us here on the west coast bunkering down.

        • AintMizBahavin

          well im right here in nyc and damn if im sleep im over excited waiting for tonight to see Going Clear” no sleep will i get i want front row seats

          • Tory Christman

            I’m here, too, Tony and gang 🙂
            AintMizBahavin (love that nick)….Oh you have every right
            to be over excited. Enjoy it 🙂

            And to those UP—-WOOF!
            Tory/Magoo
            PS: I can’t believe Michael and Denise Duff are still “in” and
            flogging for the “church”. I knew Denise when she was born.
            I wish they’d wake UP.

      • seriouslyWTF

        The bunker never sleeps!

        • Super Power Wogsy

          i know right??? Seriously WTF?

          • seriouslyWTF

            I’m hoping that in the very near future I will be able to change my name to ItsAboutDamnTime.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              hahaha! Right???

      • Ella Raitch

        It would also be interesting to hear later reflections – after it’s sunk in a little…no pressure Derek

    • KNMF

      Great report!

    • Super Power Wogsy

      Thank you for your review Derek!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      So glad you got to see this.

    • Zana

      Great review! Thank you!

    • Ella Raitch

      Beautiful statement about Marty, thank you Derek.

    • aquaclara

      I’m echoing Triple D. So glad you got a chance to see this. And I love your review. I hope Marty sees your post, too. Would you think of posting your review on his site?

      We’ve talked about the tremendous exposure this documentary is giving, but you’ve shown, too, that it has the power to help heal. Amazing to think of the power of film reflecting the cult back on itself.

      I see it on the 29th. So glad you got to see it on the big screen.

  • Lady Squash

    On one of the flyers the quote was something like “the question is whether to survive or succumb.” WTF! And I used to fall for that crap. As immortal spiritual beings, we have no choice but to survive. What is he talking about? The odd thing is, I used to think I understood. And it used to seem so profound. What the Hell happened to me.

    • Mymy88

      Your brainey was brain washy.

      • Lady Squash

        So true, so sad. And I thought I was better than that. Being an “ex” teaches one humility.

        • Mymy88

          Hey, don’t feel bad. I used to be one of those people that thought the idea that God may have put dinosaur bones in the ground as some kind of joke on modern day scientists, was acceptable to me. What the fuck was I thinking? Hooey!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You got better.

      • Lady Squash

        Yes, I woke up and life is a lot better.

    • romanesco
      • Lady Squash

        Yes, “confirmation bias” is fundamental to the indoctrination process. If you attest publicly that you have achieved some state, well, there after every time there is the remotest “proof”, well then, there ya have it. Same with the word clearing technology. Okay, maybe a few times you didn’t understand something Hubbard said because there was a word you didn’t understand. Now there after, that will be a believable answer. And so on. Disgusting little cult…

    • MaxSpaceman

      such a key component of chult membership in Hubbardworld using Hubbardspeak: “And it used to seem so profound.” !! Everyone who’s in feels that in their bones.

    • ShevilKat

      It sounds like Hubbard ripping off Shakespeare–as in Hamlet’s “To be or not to be, that is the question”…..

  • Mymy88

    FFS – Someone was disconnected for liking a picture of Tom De Vocht’s dog on Facebook.

    • Beware of the SP Dogs, I tell ya!

    • Super Power Wogsy

      My first response was to lol. I know it’s not funny, but the stupidity of it all just cracks me up!!!!!

      • Super Power Wogsy

        i am still ROFL!!!!

        • Mymy88

          Yup, I can tell. If ever there was a SP dog, that one is.

    • KNMF

      Dog is PTS

      • Mymy88

        lolololol Hey, you gotta nip it in the bud, leashed or not leashed.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Look at that retractable leash. Clearly, he pulled it in…!

      • Mymy88

        LMAO! ROTF! LOL!

    • And the original pic she was declared SP for liking.
      I see why. SP is written all over that bad dog.

      • beauty for ashes

        He could be a “potential terrier source.” (ducks)

        • Super Power Wogsy

          rofl!!!!!!!! hahaha! good one Beauty!

      • Zana

        Okay…since we are sharing our four legged children…here is one of mine. He follows me all around, plays fetch with his little mousie that squeaks and has eyes that light up. He literally comes to me at night growling and wanting me to throw it so he can go catch it and bring it back. When I put things in the dryer, he gets there first. He lays across my paperwork on my desk when I’m working. He casually follows me from room to room and leaves his toys in my bed or in front of my bedroom door. I think it’s love. 🙂 Good evening, everyone!!

        Sorry the photo is turned… I tried, but couldn’t get it straight. Somehow Discus turns it when I upload it. Sorry.

        • Baby

          Embarrassed? Oh silly it’s just us..He is gorgeous Zane..absolutely gorgeous.. Wow..Night sweetie pie..xoxo Sweet dreams..

        • He is a looker!

          • Zana

            He came as a teeny-weeny little guy who couldn’t even jump into the bathtub with the others. Now he’s solid muscle and like a Brinks truck. He eats everyone’s food. And a sweet, sweet little guy. 🙂 Good night, Dodo!!

        • beauty for ashes

          Aww, its just four times the cuteness Zana! Give him/her a big smooch for me!

          • Zana

            I will!! It’s time to go to bed now. 1:15 a.m. Pretty early. 🙂

        • Scream Nevermore

          Awwww, he’s a pretty boy!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      What a dog! WHAT. A. DOG!!!

      (Refresh)

      • That and DM’s poochies they salute at the Int Base is the true Justice Watchdog Committee.

        • Billy Bob

          Bark!
          Pooch said you have withholds, report to ethics now!

        • TheMirrorThetan

          Fuck that shit. I’m not saluting no bloody animal, and the same goes for saluting the dog.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Well, I LOVE the picture!

    • aquaclara

      Such a cutie. I can’t believe someone got disconnected because they liked this. Oh, wait. it’s Scientology. I believe it.

    • Robert Eckert

      It’s a suppressive dog.

    • Jgg2012

      Can dogs be suppressive? Do they have thetans?

  • Super Power Wogsy

    I’ve been having way too much fun here, I almost forgot.

    ***Reminder REDX Reminder

    RedX Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    (Refresh)Summer Alline by Xlope Modified by DTl and flickered by AP
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15579887843/in/album-72157642802079293/

  • MaxSpaceman

    Where is Truthiwant ?

    • He is Richard now.

      • Ella Raitch

        Thanks for that – completely forgot

    • Where is Captain Howdy?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Like your new avi, Max.

  • BigMcLargeHuge

    What is that L Ron Hubbard Hall? A HALL FOR ANTS?!?!!?!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KC_rd7-bf0

    • beauty for ashes

      Lron Hall is gonna make a great center for the arts someday. That is if the ever stop regging for it and build it in the first place.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    So… it’s not Christmas and they hate South Park. So why was the dessert at the Patron’s Birthday Dinner an apparent tribute to Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo???

    (refresh)

    • Hooooowdy Ho! That dessert sure does taste like flours . . . .

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I kept thinking it looked like a special nugget from my cats litter tray, but Mr Hankey fits even better.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        It was the raspberry beret that inspired my inspiration…

    • Cannot unsee!!! But you nailed it!! That’s indeed Mr. Hankey! They must have ate lots of fiber!

  • Eugene K

    Tim Bowels completed Pro TR’s? What a “win” to share. Hasn’t he been in Scientology for like longer than Scientology been around… and he’s just done with Pro TR’s? Right about time! But then this might not have been the first or even the second time he’s done it. Miscavige really keeps the public running around the same wheel in different colors and forking out ever more cash in the process.

    • Tory Christman

      Yes, Eugene K, Tim Bowels has been around for a long, long time.
      My guess is they’re having people “re-do” various courses. It’s true, “dave”
      does keep those “in” running around the same wheel in different colors (sometimes),
      and the people having to fork out more cash in the process!
      Jeeeeeeeeesh. If you’re “in”, WTFU and Walk OUT. Time IS rolling on.
      Your LIFE is rolling on. Don’t miss it! TLC

  • Baby

    OMG I am so fuckin pissed.. Those boys I work with.. There are supposed to be 2 dishwashers and a bus boy..For the past 2 days I have been by myself.. It’s like..” FUCK ME ”

    Well tonight did it.. SOMEONE THREW A LONG KITCHEN CHOPPING KNIFE IN MY DISHSINK.. and I sliced my finger.. and I was so pissed that

    I started crying.. Not because it hurt.. IT HURT LIKE A BITCH..AND THOUGHT I NEEDED STITCHES..

    When I get MAD..I MEAN MAD. I get so pissed I cry.. I was supposed to work for 2 hrs.. and after 6 hrs..as I said.. BY MYSELF.. I went up to the bar where my bosses were sitting..and screamed.. ” I DIDN’T SIGN UP FOR THIS.. I HAVE BEEN WORKING MY ASS OFF..THE BOYS DON’T SHOW UP.. AND NOW I SLICED OPEN MY FINGER..

    Of course I’m sobbing..and the boss woman says..” Here let me put a band aid on it and you can go back to the dishes.. ( Probably 2 more hrs..) and I said..” YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME..I AM NOT DOING GREASY POTS AND PANS WITH A SLICED FINGER..I AM LEAVING..I WILL CALL YOU WHEN AND IF I WILL RETURN..

    UNLESS I AM FIRED.. I DON’T CARE..” ( Sob, sob..sob..)

    I threw my apron down and flounced out.. Stopped and got a 12 pack of beer.. and went home and sobbed in my hubby’s arms.. He is like.. ” What are you doing this for..” he was pissed..
    ……………………………………

    So ..Earlier in the day a waitress mumbled shit in the kitchen..and boss lady said..” This is God’s House we don’t swear in this building..”

    She told me..and I laughed so hard.. I said..” HALLALEYER..” So I’m glad she told me because I would have screamed the F work about 30 times during my sobbing..

    So How is your day? On my 3rd beer..

    Pros.. Gets me out of the house.. make up on out of my boxers.. and the employees ( fun) and bosses are very nice.. ( they really are) Extra $ .. and the restaurant is beautiful with the best sunsets in the world.

    Cons… All the above.. Boys don’t show up.. and I won’t work by myself EVER.. EVER.. so .. that’s my life..

    If I do work.. I will tell them..full crew or nothing..

    • Hugs, Baby!

      • Baby

        Oh Dodo..I needed that big guy..You have no idea.. Tears stopped hours ago.. Put Neosporin on my cut.. just stopped bleeding.. and I will probably stay up all night.. Cause I can..xoxo thanks babe

        • Happy to hear that. You are very welcome.

          • Baby

            xo

    • Zana

      I love you, Baby. !!! You’re really wonderful. I even love this story. You’re a wonderful writer. XXOO Sending lots of good vibes.

      • Baby

        Oh Zane.. Like Scientology… I CAN NOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP..

        So I go in and I said to the boys ( 15 and 16) ..Thinking one worked days and was leaving…” You guys I just want you to know..I’m not taking away your hours..I just want to cover for you when you need time off..or get sick..I’m just here for you..”

        They said..” Thanks.. That’s nice of you..”

        So I go into sign in and someone said.. ” OMG we have 3 dishwashers today..” The boss over heard this and said to ME..” We called you in not realizing the boys were scheduled..So Go IN AND TELL ONE OF THEM TO LEAVE..”

        I’m like.”.OMG I can’t ..I just can’t.. they need the money..and I just made this Grand announcement to them that I won’t take their hrs away.. Please I can’t..They could be my grandkids..”

        He said..” Well you are the only good dishwasher around here..so just tell them..because we need someone with skills..”

        I said..” I’ll work for nothing..I’ll help them..but I can’t send one home..” So I worked for A
        Chicken DINNER..” for like 6 hrs…

        So I said they were nice..but they don’t have a FUCKIN CLUE..NOT A CLUE..

        It was a Just Shoot Me..or Shoot them Moment..

        • AintMizBahavin

          Baby you will be blessed three times over for your compassion and generosity to fellow humans

          • Baby

            Can you imagine in a million years having the nerve to ask me ( or tell me) to send one of these kids home.. They are saving for college.. pay for their car..going on dates..

            Thank you, but you know you would have done the same..all of us would have..errrgh

            • Scream Nevermore

              Part of being the boss means making the hard decisions and implementing them – that’s not your job! They are taking advantage of you, Baby.

            • Baby

              I couldn’t believe it either..Scream.. Yes..they are.. but NO more.. If I go back..I will walk out if I am by myself.

              I am very assertive and won’t play their games.. I’m DONE TAKIN IT..

            • Scream Nevermore

              Go Baby!!! 😀

        • Zana

          You deserve more and better. It’s okay. You did a good deed for the guys. It will come back to you in spades. We can talk about it. How can we connect?

          • Baby

            Thanks Zana.. I had G mail when I signed up, but can’t find my password..sigh.. I’ll sign up again when I get organized..xo

        • Those people really have no idea how to run a place, do they? I mean scheduling? Hiring? If people miss work all the time? o_O I’d hate to see their accounting……

    • Tory Christman

      Baby! OMG!!! Good Gawd, woman…..please take care of yourself.
      “This is God’s House we don’t swear in this building”?
      BUT it’s Ok for her to work you to death! F** that!

      Good job on telling them you are leaving for now.
      Go home, rest….and think it all over.
      Make sure you work for people who care for you, please.
      My love to you 🙂 ((Hugs)) Tory/Magoo

      • Baby

        Tory.. God’s House..and they keep telling me that I’m a Gift from Heaven.. and I think that I was sent by Hell NOT Heaven.. hahahahahah ..

        Oh I will do a lot of thinking.. Lots and Lots of thinking..and I am just relaxing with my beer.. with one doggy on my lap and one at my feet..Now THAT is my slice of Heaven.. xoxo love baby

        Thanks darlin.. ((HUGS back..)

    • AintMizBahavin

      ((((((((((((baby)))))))))))) ok Baby my arms hurt from moving furniture around in house thats about how big my hug to you can be for now… i hope ur feeling better

      • Baby

        Oh Ain’t I wrapped your hugs around me.. Since i came here I do feel better.. moving furniture..
        OUCH.. xoxoxo

    • beauty for ashes

      I got three things for you. One a big smooshy hug! and two and three you’ll have to refresh to receive. 🙂

      • Baby

        Oh YOU guys DID miss me.. OMG.. JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSOOOOOOON

        Thanks Beauty.. I love you guys.. He is so Stinkin Handsome.. sighhhhh

        • beauty for ashes

          Baby we all LOVE you! You make it hard not to miss you!
          And just look at Jason, he’s sayin, ” I know Baby its tough but I’m gonna make everything all right.” …..I’m sure you can take it from there 😉

          • Baby

            ******** Jeeze Beauty.. ********** I will never be able to look into his eyes again..

            AS IF…

            • beauty for ashes

              Oh I wanted to tell you, Cece was posting today. So I drew up the courage posted the drawing and a nice note. Also asked her if she wouldn’t mind reposting the pic of her and her granddaughter again. No response or upvote.
              Now I’m afraid I freaked her out or something. Maybe she didn’t get it before she signed out.

            • Baby

              Hmmmm.. I would have been beyond thrilled..

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          he is !

        • Zana

          He’s hilarious! I LOVE his expressions!! Wired. Absolutely nuts. An actor. 🙂

          • Baby

            I heard he was funny in Going Clear Zana.. I can’t Wait..

            • I’m going to see it at the Arclight tomorrow afternoon with my sis. Can’t wait 😀

            • beauty for ashes

              Yeah! I hope you will post a review too!

            • If I have anything new to add to what’s already been said 🙂

            • beauty for ashes

              Nat without something to say? I wouldn’t want to see that day. 😉

            • Lol. You got me XD

            • Baby

              Hey Nat.. Yay.. I will be the last to see it..I just know.. me and a TRILLION + 47x on HBO.. I can’t wait..

              So I can imagine how excited you are sweetie..xo

            • I’m kinda nervous. I hope she “gets” it 🙂
              eta: or at least enjoys herself

            • Baby

              Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahahhahaah

            • i-Betty

              Remember how we fell down the rabbit hole? The subject is beyond fascinating to never-ins. Don’t be surprised if you create a new convert 🙂

              Have a fantastic time! x

            • I’ll blow the screen a kiss from you when Jason comes on, okay?

            • Baby

              Hey HEY.. Make sure HE knows it’s FROM ME Missy.. I see your dimples.

            • Of course! I ain’t after your man, Baby — you think I have a death wish?
              XD

            • Baby

              Hahahahhahha.. You beautiful dimpled lady you..

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          he is so hot ! his wife is sooo lucky !

          • Baby

            She is..and I’m sure He is very lucky too..

            • Donna Cline Sargent

              oh yes because lets be honest,he is a man and sooo! haha

            • Baby

              Amen Sista

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      Everyone’s missed you. Down-thread you are wanted. A picture of your boyfriend Jason Beghe was posted. And its NICE!

      • beauty for ashes

        Donna look down! Jinx!

      • Baby

        OOOOOOOOOOOh I am heading down.. Jason? Ya just put a smile on my face Donna..

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      don’t let them take advantage of you

      • Baby

        NOPE.. I am going to talk to them when I feel like it.. I did tell them NOT to call me.. that I would call them.. xoxox thanks Donnie..

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Hey Baby. Just stopping by to say I’ve missed ya.

      • Baby

        POOOOOOOOky.. I miss you too.. I feel like I’ve been away for a month..sigh..

        • You have been! But always here in spirit!

          • Baby

            I just couldn’t get to you guys..sigh..night love..

    • EnthralledObserver

      Everyone is entitled to a meltdown every now and then… and sounds like yours was well earned. 🙂 Glug, glug… have fun. 🙂

      • Baby

        Oh I had a Big Old Meltdown EO.. I haven’t been that mad since I left my asshole EX 12 years ago.. So I guess it was my time. Yawwwwwwwwwwn..

        Night everyone..Thank you.. so much for all your words.. I knew I could get support from you..and I did.. Love you all Baby…

    • I’m soooo sorry Baby!!! It gets you out of the house BUT that’s not good working conditions! They’re sitting at the bar and you are BY YOURSELF working? They also seem to think that since they have a dependable, responsible fill in, then it doesn’t matter who they have hired—-could those people who don’t show up get away with that other places? It’s like they’re taking advantage of you for being a good person/employee who’ll be there. And you were suppose to be there 2 hours, and you were there 6 with no relief in sight AND she wanted to put a band aid and send you back?!

      You aid you were thinking of contacting I think a retirement place(?) for a dishwashing job, perhaps you should. This doesn’t seem to be a PT gig at all. 2 days in a row and you get injured ON YOUR FINGER and they still want you to wash dishes? No, just no. And the odds of a ‘full crew’ from what you’ve said is pretty nil.

      I’m sorry Baby! 🙁 ((hugs)) ♥

      • Baby

        Tia.. You have nailed it 100%.. thank you.. ugh

  • AintMizBahavin

    ok i stopped in to say heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to my bunkeroo family…. cant stay long upvoted and red x much as i could but yours truly is going in later this am for a colposcopy ( smh) seems the cancer might be back as if im not dealing with enough health wise

    • Hope its not, take it easy and feel better soon.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      Prayers sent and I hope the results come back fine.

    • beauty for ashes

      Oh Miz, Prayers go out to you. I hope for the best outcome. Let us know if you need anything! (((hugs)))

    • Baby

      Oh baby girl.. Let us know the minte your find out.. You are in my prayers.. love baby.. sigh..

    • Todd Tomorrow

      So sorry to hear that. I’ll have great thoughts for you as i’m sure all your Bunker family will. Thanks for Red-xing it really does help.

    • Prayers and good thoughts sent your way, hope all is ok.

  • beauty for ashes

    Omg I have to go to bed. Good night bunkeroos, and all your many adorable pets! xoxoxoxo

  • 0tessa

    Has Freedom of Religion in the USA gone to mean ‘Freedom to Abuse’?

  • Pierrot

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    • Pierrot

      Morning Dodo, life is catching up with me, have things to do, got to go!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Who remembers the “Amazing Alexander” SNL skit? Every time I read a “success story” like Jennifer Scharf’s Student Hat “win” above, I think of that skit. Scientology “wins” are so formulaic as to be obviously implanted. “100% no doubt fully for the first time!” It’s always “for the first time” … “I was just stumbling through life until LRH’s amazing tech saved me from being so stupid!”

    If you haven’t seen the skit, seriously it’s short and fun and perfect:
    https://archive.org/details/TheAmazingAlexandersnlSpoof

    • Great skit will have that attitude in my head everytime I read those “sucksess stories”. Thanks!

    • Jgg2012

      I loved it.

  • I urge Tom’s friends to hold him a little closer to help him weather the shit storm from Miss Cabbage and his unholy fair game doctrine. Miss Cabbage will make sure he puts his lack of common sense or decency on parade big time for all to see. There is an up side though. This is the process that turns an ordinary soldier into a warrior. Tom has an arsenal of personal information he knows about Miss Cabbage that he doesn’t even realize the value of yet. Miss Cabbage chooses his opponents and goes after them very carefully. Being the coward that he is you can bet more off duty police will be paid as well as those still on the clock. This is how Miss Cabbage stimulates the economy by paying tax exempt money under and over the table to attack individual citizens. Is this financially legal activity for tax free dollars? There are those who have come before Tom, like Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun that are now fighting for the lives of their children and families with no end in sight. This is why it is so important to take Scientology to task every time because America and law enforcement are waking up about Scientology using tax exempt dollars to bully citizens of America and abroad. It’s time for that good thing to come to an end. The more Miss Cabbage attacks the resistance grows more stronger and louder.

  • richelieu jr

    What does it take? A GREAT BiG MARKER, fatigue and a tragic inABILITY to withSTAND peer pressure… KA-CHING!

    ( for Davie’s mad money Queen CD club and giant flushing noise in your bank account. Hope that love buzz doesn’t wear out too fast, Chump-ion Disgracious, cuz the comedown’s a bitch…)

  • richelieu jr

    “The greatest mystery of all: Should I survive? Or should I Succumb (OHB*)?”

    *(OHB= ‘On Hollywood Boulevard’, sort of ground-zero for Scientology and where LRH** and COB*** learned the tricks that made them the smooth-talking, silver-tongued charmers they are… The Walk of Stars where loving Routers chase dozn ‘Raw Meat’ WOGS* to Find THeir Ruin ans ‘Route’ them into an ORG where they can be lovingly processed, into non-muggle merchants of Scientolgy which they will be allowed to buya little of at a duscount if they go out an Route more Raw Meat into the grinder, erm..’Cherch’?

    Yes, LRH and COB both SCOHB with the best of them.. i mean look at Davey- Why they ised to call the little giy ‘NNFNP***” before he stole Scientolgy and earned the right to name himself and star spitting instead of swallowing the salty-yet-sour, distinctly brackish seed which Source pumped out so prolifically that their open-moithed awe and stunned, 1000-yard stares (so reminscent of underage runaways lovingly smacked and ‘Turned Out’ (’70’s Pimp-speak for ‘processed’) earned them the name of ‘Clams’. No wonder their jaws hurt!

    Yes, HB is a long road, and you’ve got to suck a solid mile of C before you get a chance to get poked in The Hole by COB (or is the “Held in the Pokey”? i’m getting confused here…)

    And ifm througha combination of hard work, Denial, good percentages for selling your frinds and family on somehting that is somewhere between Amway, Crack, syphillis and Riker’s witha little Omerta on top for that Sicilian touch, you amke it all the way to the top, you will see why the highest level is called OTVIII! My friend.

    Because you wouldn’t believe what those OTs Ate….

    McDonald’s? Please! Hard zork for crapy pay is morally a thousand times hugher than getting rich on child slavery and masturbating to private confessions on your high thread count sheets and low inch-count penis.

    There is not a single prostitute on Allt he Melrose’s and HBs in the world put together who is so low that Davey wouldn’t double in value by swallowing a bit. He can start with his prode, and then wash it down with his nice scotch and a couple cyanide pills.

  • Cameo Head

    Pardon me for going all lurker ex machina, but I feel I must unburden myself.

    Jennifer sure makes the Student Hat sound totally awesome!

    It is the first time that I feel like I really, truly got all the data on a course and know it 100% completely. This course leaves no doubt about how to study and learn and apply — and I know it fully for the first time. I am so glad that I took this course and have it in my knowledge for any course or subject I attempt to study. This course has changed the way I study and new communication with others.

    Lordy. So is Jennifer announcing to the world that her previous course supervisors screwed the proverbial pooch? Evidently none of them realized (or cared) that she had not really, truly gotten all the data and only knew it partially completely. I hope the repercussions for them won’t be too severe… but it seems that Scientology generally goes in for severe repercussions in a big way.

    We’re all happy, I’m sure, that Jennifer no longer feels any doubt about how to study and learn. Perhaps it was these doubts that prevented her from really, truly getting all the data, 100% completely, in every other Scientology course she’s ever taken. Will she be allowed to repeat these courses? It’s sad to think she hasn’t derived the utmost potential benefit from LRH’s tech.

    Well, Jennifer, go with God. I wish you well in all your future attempts to study. Studying is hard, so don’t be discouraged if it takes many attempts before you are really, truly able to study. I am intrigued by your cryptic reference to “new communication with others” and I look forward to reading the 100% complete details in a future Scientology flier. (You may want to hurry with that.)

  • flyonthewall

    test

    • flyonthewall

      TEST

  • Klevergyrl

    I don’t understand the contradiction from these people! The whole story is about “disconnection” and no contact with SP’s, including family and then the organization are praising and quoting a guy for his move up the bridge and he says “…the ability to use communication in any situation, no matter how rough, as the sole means of handling.” Uh, disconnection seems to be the complete opposite of that statement. Disconnection means there is NO communication so how is that “handling” things? How can they print his words about communication yet, that’s not at all what they do by cutting off someone from family??? It’s so confusing to me, an outsider. It’s so sad.

  • Tory Christman

    Look at the age group…the average age ..of the people who are still “in”. The vast majority
    are Seniors. They have not been able to snagg the youth. Why? Because of one thing:
    THE INTERNET. Tick Tock, “dave”..and thank you, Tom DeVocht! I’m sooo happy you are doing
    the Interviews that you are doing, as well as “Going Clear, Scientology & The Prison of Belief”. Which,
    for the record, is the 2nd biggest HBO Special and can now be seen “on demand”. 🙂 EPIC FAIL
    To OSA and the Ops. Wonderful for us!!