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Private investigators stalking Leah Remini and Jennifer Lopez: The complete texts

[Leah Remini and Jennifer Lopez on the ‘Second Act’ set. Inset: Yanti ‘Mike’ Greene]

Over at The Daily Beast today we have another big story, and one that we originally started working on three years ago.

Back then, Leah Remini told us she was being stalked by private investigators while she was filming the movie Second Act with her friend Jennifer Lopez. We even managed to ID the private eye trailing Leah, a retired NYPD police detective named Yanti ‘Mike’ Greene, and we confronted him with a phone call.

For that 2018 story here at the Bunker we didn’t name Greene, but now, three years later, Greene’s own text messages from that time were put into a court file in an unrelated (and very bizarre) lawsuit involving his surveillance of another woman.

Check out the Daily Beast story for the full background on that lawsuit, our new conversation with Greene, and Leah’s thoughts about being followed.

But here at the Bunker we thought you’d want to see the full set of texts that were put into a court filing, and in a more readable form. The original filing had the texts out of chronological order and containing a lot of extraneous information. We’ve put them in the right time order and cut out the stuff you don’t need. (We’ve also made some very minor additions of punctuation to help with clarity. And we’ve redacted some private phone numbers and addresses. Most of the images they sent each other were not included in the court file.)


You’ll see that more is discussed here than following Leah and J-Lo, and you’ll get an interesting glimpse into the work of these former cops — Mike Greene, Ray Ramos, and Saul Roth — who followed people for a living for the International Investigative Group, run by Dan Ribacoff and his children Lisa and Lance. Let us know what you think about it!

[November 20, 2017, 7:28 pm]

Saul Roth: [image] Oops wrong person sorry
Mike Greene: Np brother. My pics of you in action lol
Roth: lol send to my son.
Greene: Haha

[December 5, 2017, 8:47 pm]

Greene: Ah okay great brother. I’m meeting Egypt guy later today or tomorrow. And waiting for more details about CA — And the check — is it possible for tomorrow?
Lance Ribacoff: yessir
Greene: Ah thank you. I just emailed you the last two invoices.
Lance R: Thx! Any chance you can jump on a rush NYC Surveillance possibly tonight and definitely tomorrow? Involving a celeb
Greene: Hey — shit shit — I can try — night be tough. What are the details?

Lance R: Available for a quick call?
Greene: Worse case — I have one of the companies I work w who might have good guys I trust available. Yes for a call. Good for a call [Seven minutes later, sends 7 images] What I’ve been missing — dedication to duty [smiley]
Lance R: Hahahahah. Sorry!!
Greene: Haha — oooh after work last night and again tonight the red head is going to be sorry — lol [laughing icon]
Lance R: and good to take over for Ray when yo get back into NYC?
Greene: Yes yes. 5 min away. Where am I meeting ray? Just hit me. I have paparazzi buddy — if we can hit him off w $ I am sure he can tell me where she is. $200 norm
Lance R: Perfect if he’s legit
Greene: Yes — I made friends w him during my Kendall work. He would give me intel about any perps etc in the crowds before we came out etc. He’s hunting her now — Leah
Lance R: [thumb’s up]
Greene: So far he said she was filming in Flushing not too long ago today. BAM! [2 images] She might be at silver cup studios now filming last scene
Lance R: Wow. Can you coordinate with Ray? Can u get tomorrows schedule?
Greene: I know people [smiley] — lol —
Lance R: You da man
Greene: [image] Yes here’s tomorrow’s schedule. And Friday.
Lance R: They’re all Wednesday
Greene: White escalade w cali plates is JLo’s ride — she rides w JLo often he says. Call sheet has Leah shooting at Madison park on Friday. Im thinking I’ll go to silver cup studios now and see if I see white escalade? see if I catch Leah getting in?
Lance R: Perfect
Greene: [image] Hour drive there
Lance R: Where you seeing Friday’s info?
Greene: [An hour later; sends image]
Lance R: JLo’s?
Greene: Yeah it’s here
Lance R: [ok symbol] [Two hours later, Dec 6, 2017, 2:10 am] What’s going on?
Greene: No sighting yet
Lance R: Truck still there?
Greene: Oh damn — I forgot, I explained it all to Ray not you. It pulled off — at least one person got in. It turned down side street. A postal truck between us tried to turn — it couldn’t make the turn. I got screwed and lost it. Asked my guy to put word out to let me know if there is a sighting. Meantime he said if Leah was w her, they would be going to dinner or to JLos — says Leah stays over at JLos often as well. I came to JLo’s — sitting out front as we speak.
Lance R: Copy
Greene: The have not arrived as of yet. 26 st 5 ave to Madison Ave
Lance R: What’s actual address?
Greene: [address redacted] Also known as [redacted] Madison square north
Lance R: thx! Online is showing as [redacted]
Greene: Let me double check — I just asked a limo driver out here
Lance R: [image] [web listing for JLo’s apartment]
Greene: Yeah that’s it [image] The front looks like this — Between the two lights
Lance R: copy. Just wanted to pass along so you had correct info
Greene: The addresses here are atypical — hers is [redacted]. Right next to it is [redacted]. Right next to that is [redacted]. Gracias. [image] She was at one of my buddies restaurants not too long ago — I think she was pregnant in this shot. But maybe not lol
Lance R: lol. Was pregnant or still is haha. Any gossip on her?
Greene: Lol. Nothing yet. I’m going to harvest as much as I can tomorrow — I put my requests out there. 3 hours ago she posted a video on the set w JLo. [2 images] Was it shot earlier but just posted 3 hours ago???? I do see that all the fans have left — usually means the person is somewhere else. I asked my buddy — he might be asleep now though
Lance R: Hahah k
Greene: [Two minutes later, 4:25 am] Damn my mojo. They just pulled up. [image] Not 100% — but I assume her. J LO plus Leah plus another lady
Lance R: Yeah and outfits matchup
Greene: Yes
Lance R: good to stick to midnight or so?
Greene: Sure. [Six hours later, 10:03 am] All quiet over here — back a JLo spot
Lance R: Thx!

[Dec 7, 2017, 1:51 pm]

Ray Ramos: According to schedule there is filming going on for both subject & J LO. [image]. Subject is Joan.
Lance R: We just don’t know what time thats at
Ramos: & is it back at silver studios? Hopefully white Escalade will lead us there. If subject is riding along with her???? I have my [eyes] wide open here [eyes] in case she gets Picked up here & meets up at studio.
Greene: JLo left. Leah was note her. On w my guy now as we speak. Leah was not w her. If they have different call times — Leah might still be upstairs if she stayed there overnight. Here’s a new sheet from him. [image] This shows them at 565:560 Broadway from 1pm forward for several hours
Ramos: Yup!! 9th floor. Saw that!!!!
Lance R: If you see though, leah’s scenes likely not until PM. later in PM. Leah has to be at set at 730pm
Greene: Yeah Leah much later. So she might still be sleeping up there
Ramos: Or over here. Sure she will get there early enough for make up & hair
Greene: Yes. 7:30 call time should include hair and makeup — just from my exp w Kendall, etc — Should —

Ramos: She is a woman lol Unpredictable!!!!!!
Greene: Yes another planet
Ramos: Will advise ASAP if she pops up or out of here.
Greene: 10-4
Lance R: [Three hours later] All quiet?
Ramos: Negative here
Greene: All quiet — just talked to him again. He may not have more info until Monday
Ramos: Copy. All same here.
Greene: All of her shots today are interior — so seeing her there or when she goes there would be limited to when or if she’s in the trailer on the street or not
Ramos: 4
Greene: FYI Broadway and liberty: Bomb threat. A bit ago. And now several people struck by a vehicle at same location.
Ramos: Ohhhh boy. That right by me lol.
Greene: [weblink to story about pedestrians struck]
Ramos: A lot of lights & siren in area by me
Greene: Yes — bad but hope just an accident and not other T attack
Ramos: I concur [image] Broadway is closed down. Partial frozen zone in this area.
Greene: Ah shoot
Lance R: if nothing by 5pm, id say we have someone head to shoot location
Ramos: Copy.
Greene: 10-4. [An hour later; image] Posted 5 hours agp — she’s also shooting her tv show Kevin Can Wait somewhere.
Lance R: so she was probably up crack of dawn.
Greene: Yeah —
Ramos: I do t get thsoe in my office???? Do you Lance???? Maybe Harley [image]
Greene: Haha look at that — so maybe left before 5am. Drove out there
Ramos: Probably stay out somewhere in LI. Maybe she rented singitsues house since it’s 5-8 mins away [laughing icon]
Lance R: hahaha. so lets head to studio i guess in about an hour
Ramos: Copy
Greene: — mean the Broadway set location? Haha her and Sue
Ramos: [image]
Greene: Who would’ve known. And a live audience
Ramos: We could have been an extra on one or two episodes
Greene: Haha yeah will still might — I have to get the shooting schedule out there. She might be out there two days next week
Ramos: If Kevin can wait so can Mike & Ray lol [laughing icon]
Greene: Haha [image] SUV Leah should be in if not in JLos. Cali plates again
Lance R: where that at? Near JLos?
Greene: Ah no — not current / not right now
Ramos: [2 images] At Prince & Bdwy. Big mess with regular traffic also a lot of trucks with film equipment
Lance R: copy
Greene: JLo car is on bway as per my guy. He doesn’t see the other SUV. South of Prince on the west side of the street. If Leah is in other car, it should stop there by JLos
Lance R: thats where this black SUV is?
Greene: The black SUV — that’s just a photo my guy sent to know what it looks like. Unknown when he took the pic — Right now — he says JLos white escalade w CA plates is parked on Bway, south of Prince on the west side of the street. If Leah is in the black SUV w CA plates, it should park next to JLos
Lance R: copy. think this guy can get info on her other show? see if its taping again tomorrow,
Greene: We don’t know where the black SUV is right now — I will try to use my Mojo and make it surface there [smiley] Checking w him now about the show
Ramos: [image] Canvassing area. [2 images] J LO’s truck is here. Gonna sit tight by her truck
Greene: Yeah is it where my guy said it would be? South of prince — west side of the street?
Ramos: Yup
Greene: Good good. His info is usually 100% accurate.
Lance R: thx, hopefully other truck pops up as well. looking into that other truck myself, wil ladvise. yeah seems pretty spot on
Greene: Haha! What did I say a few minutes ago that I would do? [image] Bam it just parked — no passenger though
Ramos: Tango & cash on case!!
Greene: Right in front of me
Lance R: crazy lol
Greene: My mojo man — it’s weird
Lance R: lets sit tight on both then
Greene: [image] 10-4 [image]
Lance R: makes sense thats going be hers because other actress has pickup setup by production studio. so she wouldn’t have a truck with CA plates
Ramos: [3 images] I got sight of location also
Greene: Yes yes. Perfect — its right across from you? There should be a trailor w a sign outside the door as well — once should say JLo and other should say Leah. Doors would be on the curb side of the street — where they do their makeup and wardrobe
Ramos: No trailers out here. Only trucks with equipment. 9th floor has more lights than the tree in Rockerfeller center
Greene: Haha yeah where they are shooting — 9th floor. Hmm — the big bucks — $20 million a film to play make believe [image] SUV moved to front of bldg entrance
Ramos: Copy
Greene: Looks like driver is just getting his spot in front and went to take a piss
Ramos: [laughing emoji] [image] J LO getting ready to move
Greene: 4
Ramos: J LO has left the building [2 images]
Greene: [image] Can’t tell if Leah got in. Maybe. Several people. Heading east
Ramos: Dinner with kids. Won’t be surprise if J LO’s truck meets up with that truck. We shall see
Greene: Yup that’s what’s happening. I’d bet the farm. We are at union square now — park and 15 st. Still headed south. Now at bway and 8 st. Bway and Houston still south. Right next to the film set now — See if there is a stop etc. Okay — Leah not in SUV — looks like j LO kids and a nanny and a dude. The trailers for the actors are here on Broome street. Between bway and Mercer. I’m gonna go around block and set up on broome where I should be able to see actors walk into trailers or get dropped off.
Ramos: K
Greene: JLo suv here now as well —
Ramos: Copy
Greene: Looked like driver left for a break — no one else got out. car is parked now. [3 images] This trailor should be the hot spot — JLo, kids Leah, etc
Ramos: They set up ramp by front entrance & security team is back outside
Lance R: Copy. Those two trucks parked back to back?
Greene: Yeah by me on Broome. J Los is leaving now. Ray look for it and see who gets out. It is driving around to that ramp
Ramos: Both front doors open
Greene: It should be there in one minute
Ramos: Copy
Greene: I assume it will pull right in front to let JLo and or Leah out
Ramos: Yup
Greene: Black SUV went too. I think just kids in that one — no Leah
Lance R: Copy. Have we seen her yet?
Greene: Not yet. Hoping she got into JLo escalade and is heading in by ray. — heads were down w jackets and security surrounding I couldn’t see faces — Where I am though is the actors trailor — so both vehicles left. Second one I could se was just kids and nannies.
Ramos: Did not get out of white cad [2 images]
Greene: Second lady out not her?
Lance R: According to schedule, have to be on set at 8
Greene: I saw big momma from last night was last
Ramos: Haha yes
Greene: Where the trailor is, is like 3 blocks from where they are shooting — These guys have 3 avenue blocks on Broadway and 3 side streets — all of their production vehicles parked. Well, that entrance you’re at Ray is the way they will come and go from the set.
Ramos: Demo heading your way. Heads up
Greene: Only way in or out — Ahh anti-Trump folks I assume?
Ramos: [image] No idea lol
Greene: Dicks. Well, you are at prime time spot — That door is the only way in and out of the bldg. She’s got to go in or out through that door
Ramos: Only vehicle pull up here has be J LO white Escalade & city buses
Greene: How about lady number 2 that got out w JLo? Not Leah you sure?
Ramos: She just walked in
Greene: Ah bitch is late!!! Lol. Nice job great —
Ramos: [image]
Greene: Nice job — so we got her in there for sure now. Perfect. She get out of a car?
Ramos: Black Escalade NY PLates. Will give in a few. It’s parked behind White Escalade. They r getting stuff out of trunk
Lance R: Thx!!
Ramos: [3 images] Subjects vehicle. Can u run plate lance [image]
Lance R: Yep will run
Ramos: Thx [4 thumbs ups]
Greene: [5 images]
Ramos: [2 images]
Lance R: You guys both good for this case tomorrow?
Greene: Yes indeed
Lance R: Vehicle comes back to a Taxi company. Owner is [redacted] [image] Thats her pic. Maybe husband is one driving
Ramos: 4
Lance R: Yeah likely Husband. His name is [redacted]
Greene: 4
Ramos: [2:25 am, 3 images] Subject back on set. Walked from trailer [3:40 am, 3 images] Subject back at make up trailer
Lance R: [thumb’s up]
Ramos: [4:32 am] Left trailer on way back to set
Lance R: [thumb’s up]
Ramos: [5:01 am] Still on set filming
Greene: Yup — damn it! Late ass filming. [6:01 am] Subject walking back your way. JLo and her truck left —
Ramos: Copy
Greene: [5 images]
Ramos: Following truck [8 images] Lost vehicle in Williamsburg brookly NY
Greene: Lost her in Brooklyn — SUV was doing some counter surveillance moves — stopping etc
Ramos: Probably staying out east near Gold Coast studio in Bethpage.
Greene: And official goodnight. We canvassed and wrapped it at 2am
Lance R: [9:29 am] Thx guys. Sorry passed out. Gonna have someone check out studio in Bethpage in a few hours
Ramos: [11:02 am] Copy. I will be in by park pl
Lance R: [2:08 pm] Mike where you set up?. Need someone to check out: [address redacted] BELLROSE,NY. See if vehicle Escalade is parked there
Ramos: I will go there. On my way.
Lance R: Need to make sure four seasons is covered though. So need one of you there and one to head to bellrose pls
Ramos: Mike cover park pl & I will go to bellrose. I know exactly where that is. Will advise
Greene: [3:24 pm] Hey — morn — crap just hearing these texts hit now and waking — I’ll head there now. Her next day on set w JLo is Tuesday — guy getting call sheet for that [2 images]
Ramos: Copy. Almost at location. Traffic insane. [3:50 pm] Truck not at location
Lance R: copy. lets sit on it for a bit see if returns
Ramos: Copy
Lance R: mike, any luck with her other show?
Greene: He’s working on it —
Ramos: 4
Greene: Okay — he doesn’t have 100% confirm on this, but says, it should be taping w live audience tonight and next Friday at 6pm. W next Friday or today being the last taping for the season
Lance R: oh snap. nice
Greene: Not 100% but fairly confident — Yes yes. [4 images]
Lance R: [6:41 pm] can either of you call that studio up see if filimgin?
Greene: Sure I can
Ramos: 4
Greene: I called — they were a bit aloof. My bud is going to get the true details now — he’s checking right now w someone at the studio, through a second source
Ramos: Copy
Greene: Okay — here we go, Deets: Seems they tape w a live audience every Friday. — next Friday possibly the last taping. However, the live audience was Kevin’s idea. He has now shut down the live audience feature. So, it is taping today, but w out the live audience.
Ramos: Copy
Lance R: [7:26 pm] Anything?
Ramos: Negative here.
Lance R: Mike anything with studio?
Greene: Oh I posted the info above [image]
Lance R: [Dec 9, 12:30 am] Let’s break for the day
Ramos: Copy
Greene: 10-4



[Lance Ribacoff and his father, Dan Ribacoff]

[Separate conversation, Dec 7, 2017, 2:16 pm]

Greene: Checking w my guy FYI. I saw JLo leave. On w him now — Leah did not depart with her
Lance R: Copy. How early they get up lol
Greene: JLo split about 10 min ago
Lance R: ahhhhh. gotcha. you da man!
Greene: Ahhh I wish
Lance R: [4:18 pm] this dude know somebody in the film crew of something? looking for intel on her on set, etc… she rude to people…
Greene: [6:32 pm] Hey — sorry didn’t see this at all. I’m checking now. Nothing much. Says shes not the nicest to paparazzi. But overall nice to others etc. Nothing specific about this project though. [A day later, December 8, 4:40 pm] I told my guy, $500 for all of the details he gives us from day one we started this through this Sunday — and another $500 if he can give us daily info from this coming Monday until next Sunday. He accepted obviously and is thoroughly incentivized. FYI — she did Sue tactics last night. Well her SUV driver did. They completely stopped in traffic, they made bizarre turns, they pulled over and stopped at various streets, they drove super slow then sped up and pulled over, etc.
Lance R: Price is perfect
Greene: OK — phew. I meant to ask you first.
Lance R: And wow. I’m sure they have reason to be paranoid with paparazzi, etc

Greene: Yes yes. But w her I’m thinking / is she thinking paparazzi or Scientology hit men? Lol. Couple of cars following her car and none are taking pictures of her — she doesn’t get any paparazzi really. Hmmm
Lance R: You noticed other cars following also?
Greene: Just us. We still tried to keep a distance — but when they stop and pull over for 5 minutes, four times, they will notice. At one point they got to the ref light in front of the Manhattan bridge. I’m in the far left lane. They are far right. Ray is center lane several cars back. Light turned green. I paused 3 seconds, then slowly pulled off onto the bridge. Ray did the same but had to start moving as well and onto the bridge — there was traffic behind us and in each lane. The stayed in far right lane stopped until we were about halfway across bridge. Then it was a game to use rear view mirrors to locate their headlights in a sea of headlights 20 blocks behind us — I get off bridge and go right and ray goes left. I sit and wait and about 60 seconds later there they are getting off — going right. Then I got back on them and they started driving down side streets, and stopping and turning and speeding up, etc. It ended w me ending up directly in front of them and them directly behind me. They were behind me for 10 blocks and then stopped. I kept going about 10 blocks and did a u turn to come back toward them. Ray was a few cars behind them in traffic and a large truck. As I passed them they pulled out and the truck blocked ray at the light. I did another u turn but was several cars behind ray when I completed it. Bam — they were gone. [Two hours later, 7:41 pm] Hey — new business info here. I have a guy having a 300 person wedding in Orlando on Dec 30th. He needs security. And the Egyptian guy murder case. I have their contact info and deets.
Lance R: [thumb’s up]
Greene: Shall I forward to ya? They are ready for ya. [Four hours later, Dec 9, 12:40 am] [image] She posted at about 1pm ish from Long Island
Lance R: Yep and if you want pass along info we can take in everything. We usually work referrals by giving you 1/3rd the profit. Other $ goes towards insurance, rent, etc.
Greene: Ah thanks thanks.
Lance R: And this case is good for tomorrow. They just want to break earlier tonight
Greene: Ah ok. Sounds great brother
Lance R: Making group for tomorrow AM. Going to be wirh 2 other agents
Greene: Okay great.

[December 9, 2017, 2:01 am]

Saul Roth: you know what this case is. Lance said ask you.

Greene: Hey yes. Can’t talk at the moment — ear to mouth. I can text.
Roth: ok. 50 an hour? main question lol. Do you have an email on it you can send me.
Greene: Same normal rate. It’s actress Leah Remini. We are watching, looking for her. Surveillance.
Roth: ok don’t know her. Matrimonial?
Greene: She’s shooting a movie in NYC w JLo. She travels w JLo at times and stays w her at times as well.
Roth: Nice. What our objective.
Greene: She also shoots a tv show in bethpage.
Roth: ok.
Greene: Ideally we don’t know where she is.
Roth: why are we following her
Greene: Or where she is staying. Park place is the four seasons residences. That’s where she stays at least sometimes.
Roth: ok
Greene: I’ve been on it for 4 days now. We got her last night but then lost her.
Roth: You the star DT
Greene: Haha
Roth: why are we following her
Greene: Basically the client just wants to know her movements and locations. I don’t have any more details as to why and who
Roth: ok
Greene: Could be matrimonial
Roth: I googled her. k.
Greene: Or Scientologists
Roth: who’s on foot. lmao. She quit.
Greene: Yeah — word is they want to kill her. Or at least know what she’s doing when in NYC
Roth: is she from King of queens
Greene: So who knows — they might be the client. Yeah, that’s her. She’s raised up. She did plainview type shit last night. Well her driver did
Roth: who’s on foot
Greene: Everyone in cars. She doesn’t walk
Roth: ok good. I’m feeling great. thanks for the info
Greene: Ah no prob of course. We worked 5am to 2:30 am the next day FYI
Roth: lmao. clubs? should I dress nice. was gonna slob it for snow
Greene: Hmm. You never know. Up to you. 4 days — we only saw her one day out of the 4 so far
Roth: you look more the part. I’ll be the bum. ok bum it is
Greene: Haha. I’m going casual for sure — comfy lol. Be ready for insane NYC holiday traffic as always this time of year
Roth: pj s. yep and snow. I got a 2 day hangover Pct holiday party
Greene: Ah snow too? Shot. Shit.
Roth: start 7. 1 to 4.
Greene: 2 day party?
Roth: now 2 days sick lol. I’m to old
Greene: Haha. Yes aging sucks. I still hang though — 5 days a week
Roth: yep. alternative does to. your younger
Greene: We finish at 11pm — i go to the bar and hang till 2, 3 or 4. [smiley]
Roth: lol
Greene: Then back for 6am 5 am start. Yeah!!
Roth: I drank to much
Greene: I’m 46
Roth: you Irish
Greene: Ah no — well 17% of me. As per my DNA yes t. DNA test. Black, Spanish, American Indian Irish and Brit.
Roth: well that 17 per cent drinking. my DNA 1 per cent only. Brit drink. to
Greene: Haha yeah so w the Brit im a good 35% drinker
Roth: I’ve seen those Indians w fire water. you have every Quoto there is. took my sleeping pill. go have a drink c u tomorrow
Greene: Haha hell yeah. OK c you tomorrow
Roth: [thumb’s up] [Eight hours later, Dec 9, 2017, 11:46 am] I’m here
Greene: Ah yeah!
Roth: I’m across from 4 seasons
Greene: Me too — be back — going to the bathroom — #2 [smiley] Yeah!
Roth: gotta show me where that is. most important aspect. Letting Lance know I’m here. may be get a 7 start. still feel like shit. will be in a coma in car today
Greene: Ah if you have your shield and sweet talk, you can use the one in the four seasons
Roth: really
Greene: Flash and “Can I ask if I can please use your bathroom — we are working outside following / watching a suspected child rapist.” Something like that—
Roth: and he’s a politician
Greene: Yeah ha. Anything to pull on their heart strings to like us and let us use it
Roth: and legal parking? I don’t have nypd placard
Greene: Yeah no legal parking usually. If you stay in car all is usual good
Roth: I meant for john. I’ll let you watch car when I go
Greene: Ah yeah I don’t have a placard either
Roth: at Starbucks on line
Greene: Tickets — client pays
Roth: I know lol. prefer to get after 7:30 start time
Greene: Ah yeah — right now. No traffic agents out over here. They should start rolling in in a bit
Roth: ok thanks. did you take that pic of Leah and JLo
Greene: Ah no that was Instagram
Roth: ok.

[Next day, Dec 10, 8:19 pm]

Greene: Hey — I forgot — here is the contact for the murder case. His name is Abdul. He’s a midtown good cart vendor. Backdrop: they have money. Each cart costs $10,000 to $30,000. Etc. As a cop in midtown we worked w them etc — they would have turf wars between each other — stab each other — put each other on fire etc. The basics: Abdul is a vendor. He had a beef w another vendor. Abdul’s brother was a vendor as well. He also had a beef. Abdul’s brother went back to Egypt on a vacation. His second day there or so, he was murdered. Abdul believes a vendor here in NYC hired someone in Egypt to kill his brother. He wants to find out who killed his brother. [phone number redacted]. The Florida guy might be a waste — seems like he just wants one guy. Up to you on that. And he’s already said money is no object or issue. This was a referral to me from a cop in midtown north who recently retired and who knows Abdul and his brother.
Lance R: Oh shit….I’ll call him in AM

[Feb 8, 2018, 10:55 pm]

Lance R: Group for tomorrow. Start time is 530am. Start location is [address redacted]
Ramos: Copy.
Greene: 10-4
Lance R: [Feb 9, 2:41 am, 2 images] Subjects vehicle is a Blue Jeep Cherokee. Plate [redacted] [image] Subject and suspected girlfriend

[March 5, 2018, 6:18 pm]


Greene: [2 images] Oh I want to kill this insurance broker. I had to call the actual insurance company. The broker screwed this up so bad — I had to redo everything but they can’t reissue the insurance from the 21st. It will have to be from today forward. I just finished scanning and faxing and signing and resending all of these documents.
Lance R: 10-4. Question, you have any contact with Vanity Fair?
Greene: Let me check — Meaning scroll through me brain. Off the top of my head, I have someone at Rolling Stone, Conde Naste (Haven’t talked to her in awhile though) — might own Vanity Fair though. I have have indirect contacts. My contact is asking what we need first before she reaches out
Lance R: Looking to see if a certain story is running being published. Has to be totally discreet though
Greene: Okay — let me see if it can be done discreetly. To see if a certain story is going to be coming out?
Lance R: Yep
Greene: Scientology type article?
Lance R: 10-4
Greene: Ok let me check. Ok first source has people at Vanity Fair but doesn’t feel it would be discreet — she would have to ask around a bit to get to the right person(s) she feels. I’m checking on more sources
Lance R: Appreciate it!
Greene: NP NP. [34 minutes later] Crum and Forster Indemnity Company — Workers Comp policy # [redacted] effective 3/5/18 for one year. Crum and Forster Specialty Company #[redacted] effective 3/5/18 for one year. They left for the day and will issue the card to me tomorrow.
Lance R: You available tomorrow?
Greene: Okay great


[March 14, 2018, 11:03 pm]

Greene: 10-4. Gracias as always
Lance R: Thank u!
Greene: [link to Deadline story about Remini series renewed]
Lance R: [laughing icon] They have their own TV netowek now
Greene: Scientology folks?
Lance R: Yeah
Greene: Wow. Massive $$
Lance R: [moneybag symbol]

[March 15, 2018, 1:47 pm]

Greene: [image]
Lance R: [smiling icon]


[Four hours later, 5:21 pm]

Greene: Hey hey hey — little question. Are checks going out today/tomorrow or so? I think your Mom said the 1st and 15th are her days to mail. I’m asking only because I want to make another big payment to my atty — before I do — This will help me figure out how much I can wire to him.
Lance R: Let me find out. Give me like 15 min
Greene: Sure brother. If not I’ll hit him w a small amount. If so then I’ll hit him w a big one. My wine bar lawsuit against my dirty bastard business partner who tried to steal it out from under me. [An hour later] Hey hey — if needed. Possible for me to take off tomorrow — I might have a DC contract w the Republican Party for Security. I still have to give you and your Dad my proposal for that — I wanted to secure a contract first. This seems to be it. I’m waiting for a call back now. Might be a $250,000 deal for the year for just one guy five days a week.
Lance R: [moneybag symbol] Yeah good for tomorrow. And checks going out later today or tomorrow.
Greene: Okay perfect! Let me just confirm w this call coming shortly. Got the call — DC bound for tomorrow. This could be the start of something. BIG.
Lance R: Want to pick up a check or mail good?
Greene: Well I was going ask you — in conjunction w this DC thing, I’ve got to get a slew of documents etc together. Can I depart early? If not — I can work till the end, no big deal at all. If I left early I can head to you to pick it up. If not ready, no big deal at all and I can wait for mail.
Lance R: Yessir. You can swing by now if you want.
Greene: Ah sure that would be great. I might even leave for DC tonight so I’m there already in the morning. No morning traffic issues
Lance R: Born [redacted]. 99 honda Viciv [redacted] [image] [redacted], Merrick, NY 11566
Greene: [An hour later; video file] Haha — Went to house came back around to video. 100 cars out front. I knocked at door anyway — no reply. Might be 100 people in there — these guys will be scared to try and serve — haha
Lance R: Holy shit! Free rent or something lol
Greene: Something. If he gets her both coming and going — $500?? $300 if he can only get her coming or going. All him no $ for me — no problem. And he won’t sell her pics — no $$ for her pics really — But he would get off of Olivia Mum who he’s on now to do it. I can dime him down if needed.

Lance R: Let me check if that $$ is good
Greene: He’s at the library now for Mumm
Lance R: Price is good. Really appreciate it!
Greene: Ok — NP! Hope he gets it — always a chance they blow it
Lance R: For sure. Thank u!!
Greene: NP NP — fingers crossed. He will buzz me when he gets it
Lance R: 10-4. Thx so much again. [90 minutes later] Any word?
Greene: Hey not yet. Let me check in w him now. Damn it no luck. He said they started to bring all the vehicles in through the garage — ending all shots for everyone.
Lance R: Copy
Greene: [image] Her after she entered. From one of his colleagues who was inside. Each of these are $575. He’s sending them for free hot off the press
Lance R: ??
Greene: [11 images]
Lance R: You can find them on Yeah thx for heads up
Greene: Yeah they just uploaded them he said. One of his buds is the photographer Bryan
Lance R: Ahhh 10-4
Greene: He confirmed she came in through the garage. Will send me all details tomorrow or next week

[A week later, March 23, 2018, 2:01 am]

Lance R: 10-4. Thx for all!!
Greene: Just split. Gracias. Should be good. [10 hours later, 12:08 pm] [image] Have to go in and take care of this — should be brief. I’m due in at 9am today. Heading to take care of it now. [4 hours later] Just got this email. [2 images]
Lance R: Oh shit lol. You using rental?
Greene: Yup. Lol. Got Plate and has someone at enterprise??
Lance R: Yeah exactly. Only way.
Greene: She’s inside sushi — these guys are in parking lot as well — gonna grab a burger next door while watching her car
Lance R: [thumb’s up] Just give someone heads up so they know down a vehicle for a bit
Greene: Ok — I can still see her car from here as well
Lance R: call me when you get a sec
Greene: [Three hours later] Ok. Hahahaaa you think that perp wants to give up his carrier info?


[March 26, 2018, 1:45 pm]

Greene: Well bam. There it is. [Link to story that morning about Leah being followed.] Wow the dude lies as well. Just reading it now.
Lisa Ribacoff: No kidding. Look at all that BS dialogue.
Greene: I never spoke w anyone etc. Yeah all lies. I have to sit down w my source. He would be the only rat at play. My guy who got us her location info etc. And I would love to talk to Ortega about the lies — but I see he’s smart — he avoids slander because he didn’t post my name.
Lance R: Yeah all good. All bullshit. Just making up quotes/narrative.
Daniel Ribacoff: As long as no name mentioned. Fuck him.
Greene: Yeah exactly — smart guy — no name mentioned. Cocksuckers!
Lance R: Was that the car you were in?
Greene: Yes. They def saw the car.
Lance R: Copy, just making sure.
Greene: They were operating like Sue use to. I’m hoping my source who got us the info didn’t rat. I told him I needed her details but never said why or who the client was. Actually — I told him I was hired by a family member of hers who wanted to protect her discreetly. (What I told my source.)
Daniel R: Got ya. I know you wouldn’t reveal true info.
Greene: Yup not even to a fairly trusted source — it took three months to come out, so I assume they got my plate and it took this long for the details to come back -??? [March 27, 1:57 am] To be honest with you — Ray may have tipped off Ortega about Leah. The article only has my plate and mini van etc. Ray was closer to them than I was. Once direct behind them. No mention of his plate etc. Hmmmm. That just hit me — only talk of me and my vehicle. Little to Zero or his vehicle. My vehicle that night was far, Rays was the close one.

Daniel R: He is history now. Gone like the wind.
Greene: Fly little birdy.
Daniel R: Slit his own throat.
Greene: Though I did hear he has one week vacation w his wife and two weeks w his other job w the guy he drives. Then he will be asking back in. So in three weeks give or take.
Daniel R: He can ask all he wants.
Greene: LOL. That was the most outrageous crap I’ve read in some time — taking pics and not sharing etc till you meet his demands.
Daniel R: Moron.
Greene: F’ing unbelievable.
Daniel R: Unemployed now with IIG. [Skull and crossbones symbol] Suicide.
Greene: Lol yeah his fault big time. [Image] Another one calling the office tomorrow. Tom Chernak.
Daniel R: Thanks pal.

[Four days later, March 31. 6:35 pm]

Greene: To add to that convo, Dan — she also said D’s drivers license is suspended. Makes sense why D isn’t driving.


[May 3, 2018, 9:46 pm]

Unknown: Head out when you need to.
Greene: Ahh okay. Thank you! I’m good for a bit. Gracias — gone —

[May 6, 2018, 11:51 pm]

Greene: Shalom. My contact for Leah just randomly asked if we need more deets on her. I haven’t replied yet.
Lance R: Shalom, Hmmmm…. lol

Bonus: Saul Roth’s affidavit

Smith v. IIG: Saul Roth Aff… by Tony Ortega


Source Code

“I recall a patient encountering such a somatic where it seemed like mother had gotten the crabs. He complained about these crabs for about two weeks, and had scratched himself practically raw during that time. But he was held in that engram and had been there most of his life! That is what is known as getting crabs for 40 years.” — L. Ron Hubbard, June 17, 1950


Avast, Ye Mateys

“BIG WIN: The Adelaide Ban is to be repealed according to the Attorney General at the Adelaide Labour Convention. This is a GO victory. The A/G there Tom Minchin did it. He is being made a Kha Khan. So the tide rolls back the way it came. A lovely birthday present for Mary Sue. The Telex arrived in the first few minutes of her birthday today.” — The Commodore, June 17, 1971


Overheard in the FreeZone

“I met John McMaster in 1984. He was very bitter about and critical of LRH. He lived in squalid degraded conditions and became involved with a weird offshoot group called ‘Avatar.’ He did not demonstrate a deep understanding of the tech and in my opinion was not competent to develop Power Processes. As far as S&D goes, from my conversations with McMaster, he was going at a very oblique angle and didn’t understand S&D but was looking at an entirely different rundown unconnected with PTSness.”


Past is Prologue

1997: German magazine Stern published an article on Gottfried Helnwein, a Scientologist who has denied being a member in order to further his artistic career. “One German Scientologist, Gottfried Helnwein, has for years disputed that he is a Scientologist (‘I shit on Scientology’), and has sued all sort of people. Until he lost against an anti-cult organisation. He then called the judge a ‘Nazi’, and has been indicted for this (libel is a criminal offense). It just got worse: now there’s a whole book by his former manager which details his history of lying.”


Random Howdy

“People bandy about the term ‘Satanist’ in relation to L. Ron Hubbard somewhat disingenuously. Aleister Crowley didn’t consider himself a ‘Satanist’ and Hubbard was a dilettante poseur playing at what he perceived to be ‘Satanism.’ A goodly portion of the Internet sites I’ve encountered in my readings and ‘research’ in the last five or so years that try to paint LRH as a some kind of serious Satanist have been Born-Again Christian sites, so they definitely have an agenda. Hubbard was about as much of a ‘real’ Satanist as Anton LaVey was. It was all part of the geek show for the rubes.”


Full Court Press: What we’re watching at the Underground Bunker

Criminal prosecutions:
Danny Masterson charged for raping three women: Next hearing set for August 9. Trial tentatively scheduled for early November.
Jay and Jeff Spina, Medicare fraud: Jay sentenced to 9 years in prison. Jeff’s sentencing to be scheduled.
Hanan and Rizza Islam and other family members, Medi-Cal fraud: Pretrial conference August 21 in Los Angeles
David Gentile, GPB Capital, fraud: Next pretrial conference set for June 18.

Civil litigation:
Luis and Rocio Garcia v. Scientology: Oral arguments were heard on July 30 at the Eleventh Circuit
Valerie Haney v. Scientology: Forced to ‘religious arbitration.’ Petition to US Supreme Court submitted on May 26. Scientology has until June 25 to respond.
Chrissie Bixler et al. v. Scientology and Danny Masterson: California Supreme Court grants review on May 26, asks Second Appellate Division to direct Judge Steven Kleifield to show cause why he granted Scientology’s motion for arbitration.
Matt and Kathy Feschbach tax debt: Eleventh Circuit ruled on Sept 9 that Feshbachs can’t discharge IRS debt in bankruptcy. Dec 17: Feshbachs sign court judgment obliging them to pay entire $3.674 million tax debt, plus interest from Nov 19.
Brian Statler Sr v. City of Inglewood: Second amended complaint filed, trial set for Nov 9, 2021.
Author Steve Cannane defamation trial: Trial concluded, Cannane victorious, awarded court costs. Case appealed on Dec 24.

Concluded litigation:
Dennis Nobbe, Medicare fraud, PPP loan fraud: Charged July 29. Bond revoked Sep 14. Nobbe dead, Sep 14.
Jane Doe v. Scientology (in Miami): Jane Doe dismissed the lawsuit on May 15 after the Clearwater Police dropped their criminal investigation of her allegations.



We first broke the news of the LAPD’s investigation of Scientology celebrity Danny Masterson on rape allegations in 2017, and we’ve been covering the story every step of the way since then. At this page we’ve collected our most important links, including our four days in Los Angeles covering the preliminary hearing and its ruling, which has Danny facing trial and the potential sentence of 45 years to life in prison.


After the success of their double-Emmy-winning, three-season A&E series ‘Scientology and the Aftermath,’ Leah Remini and Mike Rinder continue the conversation on their podcast, ‘Scientology: Fair Game.’ We’ve created a landing page where you can hear all of the episodes so far.


An episode-by-episode guide to Leah Remini’s three-season, double-Emmy winning series that changed everything for Scientology watching. Originally aired from 2016 to 2019 on the A&E network, and now on Netflix.


Find your favorite Hubbardite celeb at this index page — or suggest someone to add to the list!

Other links: SCIENTOLOGY BLACK OPS: Tom Cruise and dirty tricks. Scientology’s Ideal Orgs, from one end of the planet to the other. Scientology’s sneaky front groups, spreading the good news about L. Ron Hubbard while pretending to benefit society. Scientology Lit: Books reviewed or excerpted in a weekly series. How many have you read?



[TWO years ago] Mike Rinder returns to Scientology’s secretive Int Base! Well, sort of.
[THREE years ago] Scientology scores with political conservatives in Europe using the ‘religious freedom’ gambit
[FOUR years ago] Paul Haggis: Marty Rathbun is using private info I gave him against Lawrence Wright
[FIVE years ago] Maryland county explains why (don’t call it Scientology) can take a hike
[SIX years ago] Another document trove on L. Ron Hubbard’s troubled son, Nibs, the Scientology flip-flopper
[SEVEN years ago] LISTEN: Rare tape reveals how L. Ron Hubbard really came up with Scientology’s space cooties
[EIGHT years ago] Tonight on Channel 4: “Scientologists at War”
[NINE years ago] Scientology Sunday Funnies: Neil Gaiman’s Mum Builds a Civilization!
[TEN years ago] Scientology Eruption: Commenters of the Week!


Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley (1952-2019) did not see his daughter Stephanie in his final 5,667 days.
Valerie Haney has not seen her mother Lynne in 2,334 days.
Katrina Reyes has not seen her mother Yelena in 2,839 days
Sylvia Wagner DeWall has not seen her brother Randy in 2,359 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his grandson Leo in 1,379 days.
Geoff Levin has not seen his son Collin and daughter Savannah in 1,270 days.
Christie Collbran has not seen her mother Liz King in 4,577 days.
Clarissa Adams has not seen her parents Walter and Irmin Huber in 2,445 days.
Carol Nyburg has not seen her daughter Nancy in 3,219 days.
Doug Kramer has not seen his parents Linda and Norm in 1,549 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 4,023 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 3,339 days.
Dylan Gill has not seen his father Russell in 11,905 days.
Melissa Paris has not seen her father Jean-Francois in 7,824 days.
Valeska Paris has not seen her brother Raphael in 3,992 days.
Mirriam Francis has not seen her brother Ben in 3,573 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 3,834 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 2,872 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy and daughter Jessica in 2,585 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 2,110 days.
Julian Wain has not seen his brother Joseph or mother Susan in 465 days.
Charley Updegrove has not seen his son Toby in 1,640 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 6,191 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 3,340 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 3,660 days.
Roger Weller has not seen his daughter Alyssa in 8,515 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 3,634 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 1,990 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin and daughter Taryn in 6,293 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 2,399 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis in 2,801 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 2,673 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 2,256 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike and daughter Emily in 2,751 days.
Mary Jane Barry has not seen her daughter Samantha in 3,005 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 14,114 days.


Posted by Tony Ortega on June 17, 2021 at 07:00

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