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Photos shot by L. Ron Hubbard in 1975 capture how the founder wanted Scientology marketed

[When is the best time to spring ‘Dianetics’ during your date at Pizza Hut?]

Over at Facebook in a private group, former Scientologist Neil Sarfati posted some very fun images from a flyer dated 1975 which feature him in a number of images. What we especially like about them is that they were photos shot by L. Ron Hubbard himself, and give us a good idea of how Hubbard wanted to market Scientology.

Neil was in Scientology from 1968 to 1976, and during that time he had some pretty amazing experiences with Hubbard as a member of the Apollo Stars, a jazz ensemble that recorded a single album with Hubbard’s participation. Last year, Neil talked about the Apollo Stars experience for a very good piece about the band and its brief heyday.

We told Neil that we enjoyed the photos he posted. We particularly liked the one of him and his wild mane in a scene with him dancing…

 

 
To put that and the other images in more context, Neil sent us the entire 1975 flier that Hubbard had put together.

 

 
“I don’t remember where these were shot. Maybe Jamaica,” Neil tells us. “I was told to bring an assortment of clothes, which I did. This was one of the first photo shoots. If I remember correctly, at this time there wasn’t much direction from Hubbard, but that changed in time. He was a micromanager to the Nth degree. The shots went fast and furious. I think they had some story boards they were working from. We were put into position and Hubbard started shooting. I remember one shot we did with me in a coffin. Ugh.”

These shots and others ended up in an early version of the book “What is Scientology?” But this flier is just the best, isn’t it? Do any of our oldtimers remembers seeing it at the time? Will anyone admit that it, gulp, got them into Scientology?

 

 
Neil tells us that there were definite benefits to being selected to play for the Apollo Stars, which started around 1971. “For almost two years we would spend a couple of hours with Hubbard almost every day. He was relaxed with us. We were the flavor of the week. He would tell us all sorts of stories, which we of course ate up. He would tell us this and that is from the Whole Track,” Neil says, referring to Hubbard’s claim that he had explored his “Whole Track” of existence back quadrillions of years.

“When we added the Apollo Stars dancers Hubbard showed the head choreographer a step that he got from his space opera days. Everyone wanted to be a dancer as a way to get out of the RPF,” Neil says, in a reference to the Rehabilitation Project Force, the Sea Org’s prison detail. “Just about everyone you can imagine from from the executive strata came to us to be a dancer. Quentin Hubbard really want to be dancer, but Daddy said no. We had Greg Wilhere and his wife. I’m sorry I cant remember the others but there were dozens. We at that time had the clout to get just about anyone we wanted to. It was insane.

“Hubbard always dressed to the hilt. Ascots, capes, etc. Everyone on the ship loved us as we kept Hubbard away from them. We would practice many hours of the day, which the crew hated as we kept them up. We practiced right above the men’s and women’s dorms,” he says.

Thanks for that glimpse of life aboard the Apollo, Neil!

 
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Marty Rathbun has a new video posted today

New day, new video. Same question: Why, Marty, did you give the Church of Scientology a private email from Dani Lemberger to use against him in litigation? Your defense of the RPF as simply “rehabilitation,” and trashing Jesse Prince is really winning you hearts and minds all over the place, but how about answering this simple question — how did you justify handing over a potentially damaging email to the Church of Scientology in its litigation against a former member?

 
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HOWDYCON ANNOUNCEMENT

 
Wow, we’re getting close to the start of HowdyCon 2017 in Denver. And we had a slight change in logistics from our caterer for our dinner on Saturday night, June 24. If you plan to go, make sure you have confirmed with Kim O’Brien, our coordinator, and visit our HowdyCon website where she has instructions for how you can pay for the dinner fee that night. You need to do that right away to make sure you’ll be included in the Saturday night festivities, which include:

— London-based Australian journalist Steve Cannane talking about his book Fair Game
— A spoken-word performance from former Sea Org official Claire Headley
— Cathy Schenkelberg performing for us scenes from her one-woman show, “Squeeze My Cans”

You don’t want to miss out, so please visit the convention page and get in contact with Kim.

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,780 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,537 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,883 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,377 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,417 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,129 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 655 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,744 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,884 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,204 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,179 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 535 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,837 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 944 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,346 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,219 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 800 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,305 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,549 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,658 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 13, 2017 at 07:00

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The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Vaquera

    Tony, you’re sorta chatty down here in the Bunker today.
    One might think you missed us. πŸ™‚

  • Juicer77

    Maybe it’s just a show and we should really just relax?

    • flyonthewall

      i took that advice when watching Bozo the Clown and now my life is ruined. Never again.

      • Supper Powers

        The original Bozo is the only clown I can tolerate. Prolly something to do with loving the Bozo Buckets.

    • Sherbet

      Martyry Nonsense Theatre 3000?

      • Juicer77

        Hee hee!

  • Noesis

    Off of today’s topic, but related to the on-going crime wave of Scientology (including the pathetic Marty apology video tour.)

    For those that care, below is a link to an article where a California man was arrested for Labor Trafficking, a state charge similar to but slightly different than Human Trafficking.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article155762519.html

    Read the brief article and note the many, many similarities between the alleged actions of this man, specificied by the District Attorney for his arrest, and the actions of Sea Org leadership as they bully and whip those that have volunteered to save the planet.

    Eye witness reports indicate that a significant portion of the recent Sea Org recruits in the U.S. have been brought in from non U.S. locations, especially from economically disadvantaged areas.

    It is not an accident that what the Sea Org is doing and what labor / human traffickers do have much in common.

    Preying on people looking for a way out and up from their current situation is typical for those with malevolent, selfish intent.

    EDIT to add: The going wage for vineyard workers who are hired honestly / legally is about 30% higher than the California minimum wage, meaning folks are paid approximately $13-$14 hour. During harvest months in premium wine grape vineyards the going wage can climb as high as $30 hour. The people who were allegedly being “labor trafficked” in this case said they were being paid as little as $30 a day.

  • Since everyone is all a twitter about Marty and his videos I wanted to offer my 2Β’ on the matter. Here is my theory. I don’t think Marty was a plant on the scene the whole time, at least not a conscious one. I believe that he is a Manchurian Candidate. For those of you who have never read the book or seen the movie, a Manchurian Candidate is someone who has been implanted with a mission, or agenda that they are unaware of and don’t act on until they are “Activated” with a phrase or situation.

    I believe that Marty left and did what he was programmed to do. First he vehemently defended not only the tech but LRH as well. Then he started to tell the truth about LRH but still defended the tech. Then he started to deprogram people from the tech and speak out on a national scale, including being featured in the film Going Clear and talking with all major news outlets across the planet.

    Then the church came for him. They used his own playbook against him. They put him into a state of unrelenting terror attacking him from all sides without end. Attacking his family and making every space unsafe for him, not even a courtroom. They took back total control. And then they activated him.

    We have all seen this AND experienced it. This is Scientology’s secret weapon. The brainwashing and PDHing control that they have over every single member.

    Think back on your time in Scientology. How many times were you in a fucking HEAP of trouble or SO pissed off that it was “the last straw” and you were gonna get the fuck outta there right then? And right at that moment you were put, on the cans, in an ethics office, confronted by a senior or whatever and with nothing more than a conversation your entire viewpoint was flipped on it’s head. You felt a pang of guilt for even wanting to leave and were immediately hard at work making up the damage to the group that you had so wrongly thought about abandoning.

    Until the next time some shit happened to wake you up from the spell Scientology has all it’s members under and you would be confronted AGAIN and flip AGAIN. It is inside all of us. Every single person who has been in Scientology has that mechanism planted firmly inside of them. Sometimes it is on automatic. You just have to THINK about leaving and it triggers itself and you do your own doubt formula before even uttering it out loud to another human. You would reprogram yourself for compliance. That is how insidious Scientology is.

    I believe that this is what is happening with Marty right now. This is in NO way a defense of what he is doing. I think it is DISGUSTING to lie about the RPF and Scientology in the fashion that he is. I am merely making an observation.

    • flyonthewall

      Test this theory. Go find him and ask if he’d like to play a game of solitaire.

      • MM

        “But I have promises to keep,
        Post videos before I sleep,
        Post videos before I sleep.”

        • Philbyification

          My little horse must think it Quare
          To stop without a farmCo$ near,
          He gives his harness bells a shake,
          To ask if there is Some Mis-Take…

    • Philbyification

      Thanks Nora! Love your serious but also humorous vids!

    • gtsix

      Yea… he was safe in the courtroom. He and his family were safe outside the courtroom, because of what occurred in the courtroom.

      He was out for 12 years before he switched from rebuking DM/CO$ to attacking critics and reporters.

      A theory is a theory and all are interesting. This one is just a bit of a stretch for me. (my own tuppence)

    • Elegant Mess

      That’s an interesting theory, to be sure. We may never know the full scope of M’s story, since he tends to be so cagey about elaborating fully on his situation.
      Its funny; your writing style so closely matches your speaking style, I can almost hear your voice in my head while reading your posts. πŸ™‚

    • PeaceMaker

      Nora, I think you’re really onto something there.

      I suspect that Rathbun has determined that the growing public outcry and a possible takedown of the CofS is going to destroy the whole subject of Scientology – and the chances for his “middle path” – and so is reverting to scientological thinking in desperation. Thus, the “greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” might require him to do things that seem to align with the interests of the CofS, in order to save the subject – and possibly even to risk colluding with them to some small extent. He might even be doing a deliberate A-E with the subject of Scientology – not with or for the CofS, but it would look pretty much the same from the outside. It also looks like he may have applied something like SP “tech” and determined that Lawrence Wright is the “who” behind the current, possibly terminal, wave of bad publicity – and thus the target to focus attacks on, even though that seems a couple of years behind the times. He also seems to be engaging in the behavior seen in the attack videos, where people voice that a former fellow traveler is now the SP – and somehow determine retrospectively, that the signs were there all along.

      This looks to me, sadly, like a brain on Scientology.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Or, a brain that’s being puppet mastered by someone else to convey that exact impression!

        Whatever Mutty’s motivations for carrying the cult’s poison water may turn out to be, his credibility and personal integrity have been utterly destroyed…which is just the kind of evil end phenomena that would bring sadistic delight to the dark heart of Mutty’s most determined and powerful nemesis.

  • BeezleBobby

    That Apollo All Stars album cover – it’s mesmerizingly atrocious. It’s the perfect complement to Hubbard’s flyer photos. What does that album cover convey to anyone with no previous knowledge? It’s grim and utterly devoid of any suggestion of fun, or even music. Who in their right mind would think a picture of a bunch of stone-faced people gathered around a mixing desk would entice anyone to listen to the album, let alone purchase it? (Don’t answer that, we already know.)

    The album is available on Youtube. I just had a listen. It’s rough and sloppy and poorly recorded, but it has its moments. It’s very energetic.

    I found this decent article on the band, written just last year, and it includes interviews with a couple of the former members. http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2016/03/the-apollo-stars-feature

    • Gus Cox

      And the mixing desk is perched on a rickety table with some beach towels under it, which is just funny.

  • flyonthewall

    Doin’s are a transpiring outside! Two emergency vehicles (don’t know if police or ambulance) just stopped outside my house with their sirens on. I can’t go looky loo bc I’m working πŸ™

    • Kestrel

      If you hear a helicopter overhead you might want to hide your stash.

      • Science Doc

        Only if Jump into the Fire is playing.

        • Puget Buckeye

          One of my favorite songs.

    • Jimmy3

      Did you ever think the dead don’t know they’re dead? And they can still type words on the internet?

      • Rasha

        …that explains the clay pots accumulating at Chez Rasha…..

      • stanrogers

        That only happens to people killed by toilet seats from space.

      • flyonthewall

        Nice try. If I was dead do you think I’d be able to poop my pants just now? Idiot

    • Rasha

      *looks out cubicle window on 3rd floor of office building somewhere outside of Oslo…*

      …nope. Nothin’. Get back to work.

    • GrangerFX

      They are coming to take you away, ha ha, hee hee, ho ho, they are coming to take you away!
      https://youtu.be/3Fn36l_z3WY

      • Kestrel

        I drove my mother nuts singing that song in the car.

        • Kestrel

          That, and “I’m Henerey the eighth, I am.” It’s a wonder I’m still alive.

          • Robert Eckert

            You’ve earwormed me! But I shall have my revenge. “This is the song that never ends, this is the song that just goes on and on my friends…”

            • Kestrel

              Nope. That’s not the one that gets me. Sherbet knows which that one is, and she would be wise to forget she knows!

            • Sherbet

              I’m not saying a word (this time).

            • Kestrel

              Bless you, Sherbet.

            • GrangerFX

              Just remember, the sun will come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar. Tomorrow there will be sun.

            • Kestrel

              Nope. Remember: I am a raptor disguised as a songbird. You’ll never see it coming.

            • Rasha

              Noooooo!!!!

            • Rasha

              Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was!!!!!

            • EmmaDaoust

              I’ve still got Puppet on a String stuck in my head since somebody posted it 4.. 5 days ago?

          • stanrogers

            We kids had just stopped Hennery (taught to us by our music-hall-loving dad) when Herman’s Hermits put it on the radio – every twenty minutes or so. As we only had the French station and the English station to choose from locally, my Mum was not at all impressed.

            • Kestrel

              I only knew the Herman’s Hermits version. Pretty sure I had a 45 of that one.

            • stanrogers

              Apparently it goes back to just before World War I. I can also do The Lion and Albert from memory when accidentally provoked by the unknowing.

            • Sherbet

              Je m’appelle Henri Huit? Not quite the same.

  • Mockingbird

    If Tony Ortega’s idea of winning hearts and minds is that Marty Rathbun has burned any remaining ounces of acceptance or pity he had from people, then yeah he sure is winning ! Bigly !

    Marty Rathbun was horrible for denying the reality of the crimes and abuses of Scientology already but to go all the way to denying the most blatant attempt at brainwashing in Scientology in the RPF ?

    Congratulations Marty Rathbun, you have attained a tone level below total failure.

    • GrangerFX

      The hole he is digging for himself gets deeper every day. Defending LRH yesterday. Defending the RPF and DM today. What is he going to defend next?

      • salin

        For a total mind f*ck, maybe he will take on defending ‘Fair Game’ in the coming days.

        • stanrogers

          I’m waiting for “Part 32: Why Squirrel Busting is a Good Thing” myself.

          • gtsix

            I think that one should really be Monique’s video.

      • mockingbird

        He is fitting a pattern of discrediting critics of Scientology and defending Scientology.

        • GrangerFX

          He will be attacking himself pretty soon. He was one of the biggest critics of Scientology.

      • mark

        “What is he going to defend next?”
        Xenu would be my guess.

      • Mockingbird

        Hitler ?

    • Princess Poopypants

      You can’t get off the RPF until these questions are passed on the lie detector (besides the labor, schedule, crap food, not being able to talk to your spouses and family, etc) :
      1) Do you have any intention to harm Scientology?
      2) Do you have any hidden intentions towards Int Management?
      3) Do you have any evil purpose towards RTC?
      4) Do you have any evil purpose towards LRH?
      On and on and on. And you have to be smiling in the video, which shows your face, and the emeter. It takes months and months and months just to pass this VERY SMALL section of the RPF, which was added by Miscavige somewhere around the Golden Age of Tech.
      And some of the shit Claire told me about being an RTC Rep and the RPF. Shit that Marty knows about and choses to completely ignore.

      • mockingbird

        The RPF needs a series of its own. Detail by detail recreation of the reality that is that program. With commentary by folks like Robert Jay Lifton on the truth rundown and othe thought reform aspects of the program.

        Dozens of RPF members can describe the horrors they experienced.

        • UhLasare

          Chris Shelton is writing a book about the RPF.

          • pluvo

            Great! Hopefully he includes also many stories from the people who were suffering abuses on the RPF.

          • mockingbird

            Hopefully a movie starring Tom Cruise and John Travolta is coming.

            • EmmaDaoust

              It’s just the kind of social justice issue those two have fought for playing lawyers in movies. I swear, give them the script with no mention of the Clampire and they’ll do the film for free.

          • mockingbird

            I want that book. Take my money.

      • Rasha

        So, if the answers are read as true, then one can leave? EASY!!!!

        1) Yes.
        2) Nope. Just take ’em down.
        3) Not evil but justified.
        4) See 3.

        …and so on and so forth. If the E-Meter says all is good, but they don’t like the answers, then that invalidates the E-Meter, and therefore the Tech. So they should have no issue with someone wanting to bring down the Tech, because it’s invalid. If that ecclesiastical device is not valid, then the whole thing comes down.

        …that was easy. So, who’s for drinks?

        • Princess Poopypants

          You actually don’t answer the questions. You sit and smile while meter reactions are recorded.
          Creepy as hell, anyone?
          Made sense to me in another life.

          • Rasha

            Ah. Well, Rasha’s a talker, so that’s gonna be difficult….

            • Princess Poopypants

              And that would be why you would be on the RPF for a decade or two…. like many have been!
              Cheers. A shot for each year on the RPF gets me 5 (including childrens RPF).!!! YUM!

            • Rasha

              You get more than that, Princess. But I’ll be proud to share those shots with you.

            • grundoon

              Wait… did you say childrens RPF ?!?!?!

              Fuckin Scientology, it’s always fuckin worse than you think.

            • Princess Poopypants

              Yep.

        • GrangerFX

          1. Not yet. Still warming up to it.
          2. Just the redhead in accounting.
          3. Mwahaha!
          4. And his little dog David too!

          • Rasha

            Hehehehe!!!!!

    • Hmmmmmm. I spent nearly 3 years on the RPF and had to attempt SUICIDE to fucking escape from it. And even THEN they wouldn’t let me go, even THEN they tried to keep me. Ummmmm the RPF continues to be something that I RECOVER from every day. Every day I work to be on top of and in control of my PTSD and to live a life of love and compassion and to give my kids the best of me. I will GLADLY tell Marty to FUCK THE FUCK off with this bullshit to his face.

      • Princess Poopypants

        I think he has only seen the RPF for fairies.
        What else could possibly make sense about his COMPLETE CRAP statements about the RPF?

        • JJ

          LSD?

      • Supper Powers

        I’ll hold your beer.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Dayum. Thanks for standing tall, Nora!

      • Mockingbird

        Thank you. Your story as horrific and traumatic as it is, is to me completely credible. There’s a long line of others with similarly disturbing and consistent claims. There’s Hubbard doctrine that is consistent and I and thousands and thousands of other people have interacted with RPF members and can support the harrowing accounts. There’s evidence Miscavige supported the abuse of Sea Org members.

        This is why I feel Marty Rathbun should be spoken out against. In denying the reality of Scientology abuses and crimes he denies the very humanity of the victims of Scientology.

        That’s indefensible and unacceptable. You are a real person. You matter. What you went through in the RPF and Scientology matters, no matter how much Marty Rathbun denies it.

  • JJ

    I am in brochure shock. The pants have temporarily blinded me…

    “You can learn about life by READING Scientology books.” Oh Jesus.
    And of course you go to college and are insecure and worried, and anxious to do well and be liked, my god he has tapped into the core of human frailty and offered the cure. Chuck in the superiority angle and then make it seem valuable by charging for it and you have a movement…No one should feel bad they joined. Did anyone think I am gonna use this new skill set to lie hurt scam degrade insult betray disown and destroy people? I mean anyone not DM. Seriously. People thought it was going to HELP them fix all their problems and enable them to help others. Who wouldn’t want that? Once you were years and thousands in, it was probably all but impossible to just back out and start over.

  • Chee Chalker
    • GrangerFX

      Hey Marty, ever hear about the polish wolf that was caught in a trap? It chewed off three of its legs and was still trapped.

      • CoffeeOnMyMind

        Wow, it’s been years since I’ve heard a Polish joke. Still hate them. Thanks for the bad memories.

        • GrangerFX

          I debated whether I should modify the joke to make it more PC but that is the original joke.

  • flyonthewall
  • Vaquera
    • Sherbet

      Walk-ins are welcome. You hear that, Florida?

      • iampissed

        Hair salons…..that will get them in the door.

        • Vaquera

          Free mani/pedis

          • Sherbet

            One hand and one foot are free. $5,000 to complete the job.

            • Vaquera

              $5K is a lot of green for a single hand job.

            • stanrogers

              That rib just healed, dammit!

            • mark

              “One hand and one foot are free. $5,000 to complete the job.”
              good deal for Long John Silver and Captain Hook.

            • Sherbet

              It is.

          • stanrogers

            See, you read that because it’s what your brain expects at a salon. They’re actually offering free mani padmes; it’s a TM front.

            • Sherbet

              Namaste.

      • Vaquera

        It’s the walk-outs that are a problem.

    • iampissed

      Phill…….

    • Jimmy3

      Fucking liars. That’s not a house, that’s a box truck. And I don’t care if it’s open, I’m not walking into your mobile abduction command center.

      • mark

        Unsuspecting visitors are put in packages and shipped by Welcome Truck to an org where they are dropped on the roof along with a Mummy Bomb (think TC)

    • salin

      I thought people would just pour in because it’s Ideal, why the need for a mobile bill board? Oh – Thursdays at 2pm.

    • mark

      At one time in the new-age community, a walk-in was defined as an entity that took over someone’s body, usually while they were incapacitated (operation, accident, etc.) I guess that would be one way to get out of the SO, leave and let a BT have your body.

    • Newiga

      May I vomit? Can’t they word clear “Open House” already?

  • brenda

    What I want to know is… are those visors in the tennis scene made out of paper plates?

    • Sherbet

      The entire brochure has become a Rorschach Test for Bunker J&D.

    • flyonthewall

      jesus christ, I think they are. Smh

  • Pro tip: When life gives you pretzels, trade them for sourdough nibblers.

    • Night Nurse

      Or Pizza Combos.

    • Rasha

      Tony gave ’em to us. Not sure if that would be too rude….

    • gtsix

      Depends. Are these fresh made soft pretzels, served with mustard and horseradish? Then I’ll take 20 please. And a liter of lager, bitte.

      if these are hard pretzels… consult your dentist and consume at your own risk.

      • Rasha

        *sits with gtsix*

        • gtsix

          barkeep, a liter for my friend! *hands Rasha the pretzel basket*

          • Rasha

            WOOOOOT!

            • stanrogers

              Not so fast. There was no mention of sharing the mustard or horseradish.

            • Rasha

              *instictively unclasps nailgun holster*

              *slowly reclasps, and waggles finger*

              …..oooooh, you……..

            • gtsix

              Pssst, the condiments are in the basket. Makes it easier to pass.

            • Rasha

              *whispers*

              Oh, fer crying out loud…. thanks!…. here, pass ’em down…

            • GrangerFX

              Pardon me, but could you pass the Grey Poupon?

            • gtsix

              Not for pretzels!

            • gtsix

              How dare you sir!

            • stanrogers

              I’m afraid that challenging someone to a duel is currently an indictable offence here in Canada, but it will be dropped from the Criminal Code shortly for being a “zombie law”, so I’ll have to ask for a short continuance for the sake of both our honours. (You know, I’m not entirely sure they thought that one through. It may not be a law that sees a lot of enforcement, but I think it’s sort of a handy one to have on the books just in case.)

            • gtsix

              For the sakes of our honour, we shall delay.

              It would not do for either of us to behave as boorishly as Hamilton or Burr.

              Here… have a muffin.

            • stanrogers

              Why, thank-you. No need for the horseradish.

  • itsIBBy

    Helllooooo Bunker!

    Digging the groovy 70’s vibe of that brochure. Not so much digging its premise though >:(

    Jealous of all you lot going to howdy con. Its on my bucket list

  • pluvo

    OT/ from exscn. net

    Type4_PTS: “Is that the ASC Special Briefing Course?”

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?43979-Marty-Rathbun-raises-his-head-and-starts-squawking/page33

    • Kestrel

      According to the warrior, we only need one book – the ASC Bible.

      • stanrogers

        Okay, but how is the Advertising Standards Canada guidebook supposed to help here?

        • Kestrel

          It should prove more helpful than anything Source came up with, eh?

      • Harpoona Frittata

        But now that it’s being torn apart by one of the great literary critics of our times, I just don’t know where to turn!

        Hopefully, the next time I show up at the barn to get sheared *baaa* one of troika will be able to direct me to a new source of certainty *baa baaa* because I’ve never had an original thought in my wooly head before and now is no time to start!

    • grundoon

      Really interesting off-topic post on that thread, from “Gib”

      I wish we could add the Campbell/Heinlein letters that I’ve mentioned before on my other thread. I really wish somebody with better writing or talking skills would go thru those letters since they are copyrighted and not found on the internet unless one pays a few bucks. A few excerpts:

      1. letter 5 Apr 1951 to John Campbell:

      “Incidentally, how do you class yourself? Released? Clear? Or what? How about your chronic sinusitis? Is it gone? Is your eyesight any better? How about that unallocated fear that used to trouble you? You’ve told me a lot about other cases, but not much about yourself.”

      2. letter to John Campbell dated 14 Nov 1951:

      “I read your 3000-word-plus discussion of mind investigation with much interest. I bought Dr. Winter’s book and found that it seemed to support my own decision to wait and see. Your letters are stimulating but not too illuminating, i.e. , I gather that you no longer agree with much that Ron said in Dianetics but it is not entirely clear what you believe. (I had the same difficulty with Ron’s letters written before he wrote his book.) Perhaps it will be necessary for you to write a book, thereby arrange your thoughts in order, for me to get what you are driving at.”

      Edit to add. From my research, I believe John Campbell was Hubbard’s first auditor to train, and Heinlein is actually the first “critic” or critical thinker of Dianetics. Really wish I would have read those letters at the same time when I read Dianetics back in 1987.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    OT. I might be a little bit in love with Senator Martin Heinrich.

    • Jimmy3

      I went to middle school with a girl named Heinrich. They probably know each other. I will hook you up.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I will start shopping for a dress immediately!

        • Jimmy3

          Never mind. Her name was Hendrick. I’m sorry. But buy that dress anyway. I can probably get you a NASCAR driver. Same as a Senator here.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Is a NASCAR driver a bit like a polo player? In which case I thank you and I accept.

            • Jimmy3

              They both wear uncomfortable helmets and ride around with sticks. So yeah, basically the same thing.

    • MarcabExpat

      Are you talking about the Sessions hearings? I’m so mad I have to be running around today, I wanted to see his questioning. I’m still hungover from celebrating Comey Day.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Yep! He and Senator Angus King have kicked arse.

        • MarcabExpat

          Nice. If any arse ever deserved it, it’s that evil twin of Foghorn Leghorn.

          (I say this as a native of Alabama who has been hearing his name since childhood, with disgust.)

          • Mark Foster

            Ah, dear Β¨BeauregardΒ¨ , the Hillbilly Hobbit…What a piece of work that guy is…

            • Liberated

              Don’t ya love his righteousness indignation….I do declare ?

            • Philbyification

              He has “criminal ears”! lol

        • salin

          And now it’s Senator Franken’s turn! Whose last turn at questioning Sessions led to Session’s recusal from the investigation. (edit reCusal not refusal)

          • MarcabExpat

            YESSSSSSSS

          • stanrogers

            I wish he were free to be full-on “Franken and Davis” Al Franken in chambers. Some people just deserve that, you know?

            • MarcabExpat

              I love his Dignified Senatorial Takedowns. The ones where he throws Truth at the perpetrator with a face that reads “I’m So Right, I Don’t Need To Be Funny.”

            • salin

              Made me think of this Franken Senatorial moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqwmNw3SIVs

            • Liberated

              Kamala Harris is doing a pretty good job of guestioning.

            • salin

              She is doing a great job.

            • MarcabExpat

              I loved her approach during the Comey hearing, where she basically had him make a list of all the stuff he couldn’t say yes to out loud. Swift concise and deadly effective.

            • Liberated

              Tom Davis is no longer with us.

            • stanrogers

              Hasn’t been for years; died at 59. But that’s when Franken was his smart-assest.

            • Liberated

              Ok

          • gtsix

            Honestly, when he was running… I was quite perplexed for my home state. First a wrestler for Guvner, then a comedian for Senate.

            I am so glad I was so very wrong.

            • salin

              Well, I thank your home state. Recently my home state just gives us weak/dense vice presidents every couple of decades.

            • Liberated

              Now now…don’t talk about Danny boy like that.

            • salin

              You say potato he says potatoe *shrug*

            • Liberated

              I was going to do a potato-e joke too, but you beat me to it.

              People kind of eased up on DQ when Sarah Palin ” could have been vp “….Danny started to look almost smart.
              I went to HS with Mrs. Quayle, but I’m younger of course.

            • salin

              Some fellow alumni joked at our five year reunion (when Quayle was VP), that our degrees were now worth less (he is also a DePauw alum). But you are correct per Palin. I would also prefer that he were currently VP over Pence.

            • Liberated

              You went to DePauw ?

            • salin

              Yep. Had to get away from the hometown U.

            • Liberated

              Ok I’ll cut you some slack.

            • salin

              When my older brother went to Wabash, I wanted to be part of the first coed class at Wabash. Good thing I didn’t wait to get my degree until they went (still haven’t) coed.

            • MarcabExpat

              I never liked him on SNL. As a Senator he’s godlike. Fierce, well-spoken, incredibly informed, navigates political waters like he was born to them. Amazing.

          • Science Doc

            Franken is on Judiciary. This is Intelligence.

            • salin

              I thought I heard him (I have the hearings on in the next room over.) Oops (brief embarrassed blush)

          • EmmaDaoust

            Senator Frankensturn? Sessions Sessions?

      • Science Doc

        Sessions is not on the side of the angels.

        • gtsix

          Sure he is. The fallen ones.

        • MarcabExpat

          O do not mistake my meaning when I say “celebrate.” I’m hoping he goes out like Don Giovanni.

    • Vaquera
      • MarcabExpat

        With that kind of beauty, what a relief that he’s not one of the Siths of the Senate.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        He trained as an engineer so he’s pretty AND clever. Me likey. We couldn’t marry, sadly: he occasionally and unironically wears bolo ties πŸ˜›

        • MarcabExpat

          You’re going to let a bolo tie stand between you and Aragorn Of The Senate?

          • gtsix

            His current wife might object.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Therein lies the rub πŸ™‚

            • gtsix

              I said “might”. She “might” be in to sharing. Never know til you ask. πŸ˜‰

            • stanrogers

              And let’s not be coy about it: not all rubs are bad.

            • Kim O’Brien

              Off Topic – i have it on very good authority that there is going to be a live link / you tube channel ( ya know – something fancy ) that will be available for all those unable to attend HowdyCon. And not just for Saturday night either .

              HowdyCam .

            • MarcabExpat

              i think i love you

            • salin

              woohoo! I am going to be so deep in procrastination.

            • Liberated

              Yay !

            • Philbyification

              Excellent News Kim! Thanks and Congrats on your new job!

            • EmmaDaoust

              TV dinner.

            • EmmaDaoust

              I knew you were going to say that.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            I guess I could always tear it off with my teeth. If forced.

        • Vaquera

          So does the proprietor.
          add: Wait. Maybe he was being ironical.

    • FredEX2

      Me too.

    • outraged

      But it is possible that somehow or another I maybe possibly did that and afterwards perhaps around the corner or in the basement saw and overheard something that I do not remember or at least forgot.

  • Tony Ortega

    With the help of Roger Boswarva and Lauren Wolf, we think it’s pretty certain now that Marty is saying “EWEN Cameron” at that point in Part 6, and not “YOU AND Cameron…”

    (Ewen Cameron was an Australian official at the time of the inquiry.)

    So it’s not likely that the name “Cameron” is going to help us figure out who he’s talking to during filming.

    • outraged

      What do you mean, “talking to?” lol
      I thought Marty was babbling to the infamous ‘other’ and/or the camera operator.
      (btw: I am not physically able to listen to Marty speak. It’s the rue in me.)

    • FredEX2
    • Science Doc

      I guess “I love you” and “I love Ewe” are two different things.

      • gtsix
        • Robert Ramsay

          Shaun !

        • EmmaDaoust

          Speak ta me, boy, whatcha tryin’ ta say? Your gums are flappin’ but no noise is comin’ out.

      • salin

        Doc, ewe rue!

        • Liberated

          Oh no…John McCain’s on – bet money he goes off on Hillary Clinton again.

          • salin

            In that exchange, Session’s speech started to become more garbled. Maybe whatever McCain had last week is contagious.

      • Princess Poopypants

        We had a guy show up on CC property with a leather jacket that said “Phoque Ewe”.
        Needless to say, he was kicked off property immediately.
        Those Scientologists can’t take any kind of joke!

    • Supper Powers

      In my mind, Miscavige is the one there, perched up in a high chair while Marty swallows hard and does as he’s told.

      • Liberated

        A really high-chair.

    • Philbyification

      Is he mixing it up with Dr. (Donald) Ewen Cameron of “MK-Ultra” Fame? LOL

    • Bob Crouch

      He’s talking to who he’s always talking to: Himself!

    • Kestrel

      I thought he was saying, “Hugh and Cameron.”

  • Joe

    Based on these hearings, I feel like the U.S. is becoming a cult that I never agreed to join.

    • Science Doc

      I’m not moving to Arkansas.

      • Kim O’Brien

        that needs to be a bumper sticker

        • Supper Powers

          Arkansas is my favorite state. It’s gorgeous.

          • Kim O’Brien

            – this is one of my favorite jokes about Arkansas. And the best part is …they don’t get it

            An infinite number of Arkansans, in an infinite number of pickup trucks, firing an infinite number of shotguns at an infinite number of road signs, will produce all the great works of literature. In Braille.

            • Supper Powers

              That got a chuckle out me.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Let’s hope McCain has had a good night’s sleep.

      • Mark Foster

        McCainΒ΄s wife is supposedly getting an ambassador appointment…

        • Kim O’Brien

          to the Vatican no less . And no …that was not a joke

    • Philbyification

      “becoming”? Where ya been Joe?

  • Rasha

    Didn’t watch Marty, and had a busy day, so I’m padding my day by watching BABYMETAL and then heading home. Have to say, I love today’s post. May be on lata, but if not, party on, Bunks!!!!

    • Juicer77

      Xoxo

      • Rasha

        ^_^

  • Jimmy3

    Memory is a funny thing. You can’t answer very basic yes or no questions because you don’t recall, but when the right question is asked by the right person, holy shit, you can recite exactly what was said and by whom, and when, and what they were wearing, and what color their socks were, and which of their shoes was untied, and all this detail just comes rushing out. It’s a trip.

    • Philbyification

      50 Shades of Ronnie @ Iran/Contra…..Some things a person “can’t recall”.

    • Vaquera
    • Supper Powers

      Is it possible he is lying about not remembering? Just a thought.

      • Mark Foster

        The Hillbilly Hobbit??? LIE? Oh, nooooooooo!

      • Jimmy3

        What’s that now? What are you on about?

      • gtsix

        He doesn’t recall whether he was lying about not remembering what he was lying about.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I’m trying to find what was leaked with regards to Sessions 20 minutes after Comey completed his closed session testimony last week. Any ideas?

      • Kim O’Brien

        3rd meeting with a russian that he just ” forgot ” about .

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Ahh, they’ve been referring to the third meeting during today’s testimony. Thanks Kim and Jim πŸ™‚

          • Kim O’Brien

            Jim’l fix it . ( but not in THAT way )

      • Jimmy3

        He reportedly told them that Sessions had met with the Russian ambassador in secret more than he had disclosed. An additional meeting he refused to admit to.

    • ExCult.Jan
  • flyonthewall

    Boys are at camp. Got a postcard from the oldest today. It reads in part:

    “Dear Mom,

    everyone in my cabin camp is an asshole except for the counselors. …I only want to go home. I still like camp but I hate everyone in it.”

    Nice. You got 2 more wks buddy! lol

    • Supper Powers

      I love this so, so much!!

      • flyonthewall

        he’s a real ppl person *shakes head no*

        • Supper Powers

          Maybe he’s discerning.

        • Observer

          I feel him.

          • Sherbet

            I thank my lucky stars my parents didn’t have the extra money to send me to camp. They would have had to find a special camp for antisocial dorks, and I don’t think there are any around. Not back then, anyway.

            • Kestrel

              I don’t know when it opened, but Camp Trump is just the place for antisocial dorks.

    • OOkpik
      • 3feetback-of-COS

        oooh you beat me to it…. shows our age.

      • GrangerFX

        I used to listen to this as a kid. Another of his I liked:
        https://youtu.be/vBf4oe3UA4s

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Aww, that breaks my heart! Just wait – he’ll be refusing to come home by the end πŸ™‚

      • Marshall

        I was going to say the same thing! Usually by the end they love it – at least that’s how my kids were.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      I think you’d appreciate this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjiWS__Mp0

      • gtsix

        Heh, I created a parody of this.

        Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah, greetings from Camp Marijuana. ‘Shrooms are good here, Pot is better, I’m so fucked up I can hardly write this letter.

        (there were more verses, but that’s all I can remember)

        • Sherbet

          Well, no wonder you can’t remember with all that stuff in you.

    • Rasha

      Rasha has a friend who went on a “company retreat”, with hiking and other outdoor activities. Told me that when she would fall behind the other chattermouths during hikes, they would call, “Hey! Why are you falling behind?? Why don’t you catch up?”, she would mutter, “Because I hate all of you and I’m hoping for a bear.”

      This is why I love her.

      • flyonthewall

        Ha! Side note – I just watched Pixar’s Brave last night. That was all about bears.

    • Mark Foster

      Nice one, Phil πŸ™‚

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner
    • chukicita

      This made my day.

    • Juicer77

      πŸ™‚

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Thank you for one of the best and most fun weekends I have had in years. We laughed and laughed, and ate, and laughed. You are the perfect-est host in all the lands πŸ™‚

        • Sherbet

          When are you going to finish with her and send her back to the US?

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            We would love to keep her forever πŸ™‚ I’ll genuinely be so sad when they go back. She’s very special.

            • Sherbet

              And it all started with a blog about scientology. Serendipity.

        • Juicer77

          *blushes*

    • Kim O’Brien

      Leah is emasculating soooooooo many warriors , just with a billboard . In public

      i am fucking loving this

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Look at her face! Nobody can deny she is utterly gorgeous, but that face means serious business, too.

        • Kim O’Brien

          pretty sure she has a collection of balls underneath her sink . I know I do . They are like trophies . I had Skip’s balls bronzed and mounted . They are small . And old . So it was pretty cheap . Leah has the $$ to get them gold plated with a light to shine underneath them . Like an art show . I would pay to see that

          • FredEX2

            Kim will you be my friend. I would feel safer if you were my friend. πŸ˜†

          • mark

            Is anyone else worried about Kim? πŸ™‚

            • Philbyification

              No. I hope they have a lino floor so Leah’s heels will be heard coming toward them. Pre-ball buster shrinkage activator…..Works Great! lol

            • Kestrel

              I’m not worried about Kim. I’m worried about pissing off Kim.

          • TheMirrorThetan

            Under your sink?
            You are supposed to keep them on the mantle above the fireplace.
            That way they can provide a nice conversation piece for your guests.

    • Supper Powers

      And the Liquor Locker delivers for free! Dang!

    • Supper Powers

      And the Liquor Locker delivers for free! Dang!

    • Ann B Watson

      Absolutely Made My Day & Night. XXOO 😘😘😘Andrea.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Y. E. S.

    • PattyCakenfeld

      Whee!

      I’m pretty confident the show will be nominated, right? Since she’s one of the exec producers and its main public face, Leah would likely give the acceptance speech. Up yours, Misc-not-havingness. (Although sadly, the category is part of the Creative Arts awards which aren’t televised.)

      I’m very curious to see what the competition will be; Anthony Bourdain’s show has won the last couple of years.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Wouldn’t that just be the cherry on the cake? They certainly deserve to win big come award season.

    • Rasha

      I prefer the one with Mike and Aaron… Just sayin…

    • Sherbet

      Not too shabby for a has-been actress who’s desperate to remain relevant (or whatever the church said about her).

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Here’s the perfect song to accompany that billboard or television ad spot! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA

    • Gus Cox

      Yay!!!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Grant Cardone: “I’m telling you man, I can use the N-word now. I just got permission to use the N-word. That’s all I want, that’s one of the stamps I want. I need a brother to tell me that I have permission to use the N-word. I’m gonna have an “N” permit card. I’m gonna carry it around with me everywhere I go.”

    https://youtu.be/GGMBw_tCzfA?t=25m53s

    • Kim O’Brien

      and now i’m fuming

    • chukicita

      Oh please please please someone give him a card and tell him to test it out on my block.

      • gtsix

        If not you, I can give him some recommendations on DC areas to visit. He’d get a mighty welcome.

        • Mark Foster

          Or even parts of PG County, eh?

    • Observer

      Cardone is fully asshatted.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Isn’t he gross, Obs?

        • Observer

          He is truly a festering pustule on the backside of humanity.

          • Sherbet

            Does this mean neither of you wants to sign up for his seminar?

            • Observer

              Yes.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Oh, sorry. For a moment there I thought you said “sign up for his ritual humiliation” and my hand was halfway to the phone. Phew!

            • Observer

              I will ritually humiliate you for a fraction of what he charges.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              There’s an acronym for that!

            • Observer

              ??

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              I was thinking S&M, but in hindsight I’m not terribly sure that’s an acronym πŸ˜€

            • Sherbet

              Same thing, but you’d get a discount for the ritual humiliation package, because Cardone gets something out of it, too.

      • Full asswardrobe.

    • Jimmy3

      Hah. He doesn’t know that ‘knob’ begins with a silent ‘K’. What a knob.

    • EmmaDaoust

      What a fucking dick.

    • Mark Foster

      Grant Cardone: FUCK YOU
      ETA Left a comment: AT 26 minutes: No, you clueless tool, you can´t call anyone ¨nigger¨. You are rich in arrogance& ignorance.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Bravo, Mark! His super-fans probably think it makes him badass. Everyone else knows it makes him an epic, pathetic arsehole.

    • Supper Powers

      Reprehensible.

    • Kestrel

      Yeah, I’d like to see him whip that card out in some of the places I’m familiar with.

    • GrangerFX

      We should send Grant the card and a one way bus fare to Harlem to try it out.

  • Ann B Watson

    Omg. What a Trip! I remember Neil, and I had to pick myself off the floor because these images gave me giggles galore and love the descriptions and the far out styles of hair & dress.But what I howled at the most was how each portrayal including ” with the opposite sex” say that with a straight face while in the Sea Org ,can be made easy by Scientology Tech. Whoops we need one more series of shots, with your smiling Registrar so ready to put their hand in your financial dealings for the rest of your life. All made so easy with Scientology Technology! Thank you Tony for the ride back to Ron’s World of Illusion!

  • Vault Digger
  • Sherbet

    OT: I love my husband, but he’s talking back to the network news, and I can’t stand it.

    • Vaquera

      Ha! I was doing that during today’s hearing. With the NHL and NBA championship games over, I needed an outlet.

      • Sherbet

        It must be contagious, then.

        • ze moo

          It is mostly a guy thing.

          • Sherbet

            Along with repeatedly changing channels.

            • Philbyification

              lol Does he make you turn his smelly socks right side out b/f washing too? lol

            • Sherbet

              Not any more!

            • Philbyification

              Good cuz it Can be Deal Breaker! lol Along with Crocs w/ a “Team” on them!! ;/

            • Sherbet

              Ugh. I’m counting my blessings. No Crocs here.

            • EmmaDaoust

              I’m all over that too.

            • Sherbet

              Well, equality and all that. Brava, I guess.

            • EmmaDaoust

              Actually, considering I got rid of the tv 2 years ago..

          • EmmaDaoust

            No. No it’s not.

  • Bob Crouch

    “Captain” Dave will be glad to hear that now in part 8 Marty is earnestly laboring to defend Dave from those accusations that he slaps people around. How does Marty do it? By building a case that there is insufficient evidence that Dave slapped a pre-clear when he was 12 years old. Evidence? Marty does not like the source of the anecdote. Well, that should settle hundreds of brutality claims (including Marty’s) against the cap’n once and for all! Well done, Marty–spoken like a true “inch wife!”

    Along with Marty’s reminder to Dave (in part 7) that he ought to be given credit for getting the FBI off the cult’s back and his expert testimony that the RPF is just “rehabilitation” (sort of like a spa or a Malibu 12-Step retreat), Marty’s own “rehabilitation” and public self-humiliation are progressing swimmingly!

    • Ann B Watson

      Ha, Getting the FBI off the cult’s back is not that difficult. I did it in 1979 when I was invited to an interview with them at the JFK Federal Building in Boston. Basically they thought and said as much that I was nuts. Score one for the cult back in the day. πŸ’”

  • EmmaDaoust

    Patience, Tony said, all will be revealed.

    Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
    And stars fill my dream
    I’m a traveler of both time and space
    To be where I have been
    To sit with elders of the gentle race
    This world has seldom seen
    They talk of days for which they sit and wait
    All will be revealed

    Talk in song from tongues of lilting grace
    Sounds caress my ear
    And not a word I heard could I relate
    The story was quite clear

    • Sherbet

      What is that, Emma?

      • Observer

        I’m not Emma, but it’s Kashmir by Led Zeppelin

      • Puget Buckeye

        Lyrics of Kashmir, Led Zeppelin.

        • Sherbet

          This is what I miss for not being a Led Zeppelin fan.

          • Jimmy3

            You have definitely heard it many times over the years. You would recognize the sound immediately, but not the title.

            • Sherbet

              Yes, I just found it on YouTube and said, “OH! That!”

            • EmmaDaoust

              Yes, one of the top songs to have sex by with those pounding rhythms building up into Plant’s usual orgasmic screaming.

              Oh God did I just say that out loud.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Yes, yes you did.

            • EmmaDaoust

              The syntax is all wrong.

          • Puget Buckeye

            It’s never too late.

            • Sherbet

              I like some, but never was much of a fan. I don’t own any LZ music.

            • ze moo

              The first recorded earworm was stairway to heaven. And maybe some Beatles stuff…

          • Observer
      • Jimmy3

        Kashmir by Led Zeppelin. Popularized by Puff Daddy when he sampled it for the hit movie Godzilla in 1998

        • flyonthewall

          and Godzilla pure muthafuckin filler
          to keep your eyes off the real killer

        • Observer

          Pretty sure it was popular before Puff Daddy came along. I had the album when I was in high school. :-p

          • Jimmy3

            Hey, whatever. Your narrative is your narrative.

            • Observer

              Maybe I should do a vlog…

            • Jimmy3

              Nah, just record one long video. Then release it in hundreds of 4-5 minute segments, one per day.

            • Observer

              I don’t think I’m capable of talking that much. If only I were trying to get back in the good graces of a miniature despot!

            • EmmaDaoust

              Feck off.

            • Jimmy3

              I don’t know what that means.

            • EmmaDaoust

              It’s Irish.

            • Jimmy3

              I’ve heard it before. But I still don’t know what that means.

            • EmmaDaoust
          • flyonthewall

            but you were one of the cool kids

            • Observer

              If only you knew…

        • Mymy88

          I love that song. I’ll have to go listen to that version. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JYuOZnAqQCY

          • EmmaDaoust

            Yes, these kids are amazing.

          • Rasha

            Zeppelin did a fair cover of this recording, I have to say. Not the best, but almost as good…

        • EmmaDaoust

          Ya. Puff Daddy popularized it. pfft.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • ze moo

      The Koss head phones he is wearing were very good in the mid 70’s. Not top notch, but good.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        IMHO, his eyes have the vacant look of someone in the grips of senility.

        • ze moo

          Or too many Quaaludes…

          • Sherbet

            At least his mouth is closed for a change. Thank heaven for that.

    • KKat

      OMG, that is funny LOL.

    • GfldedKim

      The girl sitting on the bench with LCon looks very familiar..

    • PeaceMaker

      Thanks for zooming in on that, I had noticed in the photo that he looks like he was recovering from one of his strokes.

    • Kestrel

      “This sounds exactly like I wanted it to. Why didn’t somebody tell me it was shit?”

    • Boston Terrier Dad

      it’s like an old grumpy grandpa whose hat doesn’t fit right and he couldn’t give two shits because it looks better than his thinning unbrushed hair and it keeps the sun out of his cataracts, dammit.

  • Jimmy3
    • flyonthewall

      The case supervisor must also approve

  • Observer

    Kim, I request that you please turn Denver’s thermostat down next week. The forecast is a little too toasty for my taste (and hot flashes).

    • flyonthewall

      isn’t denver in the mountains? They’re supposed to be all snow capped and shit, how is the temp in the mid to high 90s?

      • Observer

        Denver’s weather is schizo. It could be snowing on Friday.

      • Rasha

        Actually, the weather is expected to be pretty mild in Danvers that weekend. A quick trip down to Salem or Marblehead, and everyone….. should……should…….

        …….”Denver”

        …aw shit. Guess I’m not gonna be there. Still, might have some fun in Danvers.

        • flyonthewall

          i want to go to Danvers

          • Sherbet

            I’ve been there thousands of times. There used to be a cool abandoned mental hospital there, but now it’s condos.

            • flyonthewall

              same thing happened to the old city hospital here. Is a shame. Junkies need a place to pipe or shoot up. Killers need somewhere to dump corpses. Nobody thinks of them

            • Sherbet

              I know. A sad commentary on a community that won’t accommodate its junkies’ and killers’ needs.

          • Rasha

            Nah, it’s all drones and polka music. I think one guy has a carp you can pet, and there’s the Endicott Pear Tree, which may be the oldest living cultivated fruit tree in North America.

            Also, in 2006, there was a pretty big chemical explosion, so there’s that.

            • EmmaDaoust

              It’s Polka Time!

            • Sherbet

              And malls. You left out the malls.

        • Sherbet

          Guess what silly Bunkeroo planned a family cookout for Saturday, June 24? Now I can’t plant myself in front of the computer and watch for HowdyCon drone flyovers. Not until night time, anyway.

          • Rasha

            Nooooo!

            ….having shrimp skewers?

            • Sherbet

              No, already cooked, on a platter. Steak, chicken, and a bunch of vegan options for those who swing that way.

    • Jeb Burton

      Howdycon should be fun. A bunch of menopausal women and old guys doubling up on their viagra medicine. Can’t wait.

      • Supper Powers

        Your insults aren’t even alrming anymore. You’re just a big snooze.

        • Jeb Burton

          I think you mean alarming. But I’ll work on it. Was just trying to be funny. Either I bombed or you have no sense of humor.

        • Observer

          When I was 16 my dad told me he wished I’d never been born. Since then I’ve been insult proof–after something like that nothing else can touch you. (My dad and I are good now.) Jeb can keep congratulating himself on his “zingers”, but they have no effect on me, and never have.

          • Supper Powers

            That will toughen ya up! Jeehsus.

            • Observer

              Indeed.

          • villagedianne

            A guy I know said his father told him, “The night I made you, I shoulda jerked off.” My friend joked about it, but I think it really hurt him.

            • Observer

              It’s devastating.

      • Jimmy3

        Yeah. You will be the only limp dick there.

        • Jeb Burton

          I’m Cialis. Ready anytime, anywhere. Sitting in my bathtub on the hill right now.

        • Observer

          He’ll never show up within 10 miles of anywhere I am.

          • Jeb Burton

            Bullshit. I would go 9 miles of anywhere you are.

            • ithilien

              that was funny

      • Chee Chalker

        Oh snap….Jimmy done burned you good

      • Kimmy3

        Hey, this bitch is still in heat. Watch your mouth!

        • Jimmy3

          How you doin?

      • EDN/laineybin

        Completely unnecessary and mean.

        • Observer

          That’s our Jeb!

      • villagedianne

        Sadly for you, there is no Viagra for the brain.

    • villagedianne

      Damn hot flashes. I’m still getting them too.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    “Everyone wanted to be a dancer as a way to get out of the RPF.” So they kind of expected to be ordered to do the RPF any moment?? How scary is Scientology!
    No need to go that far back on the time track: Mr. Bojangles was safe in his cell when he did his tapdance for his new friend in a New Orleans jail:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5voM2HExV_Q

    • Princess Poopypants

      I was on the Childrens RPF and to get off of it, I signed a billion year contract and joined the Sea Org elite!
      It was the ONLY way to get off that fucking RPF. (I have decided I have a right to swear).

      • ze moo

        Please answer the ad when Lawyers start advertising a class action suit against $cientology.

      • flyonthewall

        is you really a princess or is that just like an honorific title?

        • Princess Poopypants

          My real name was way too happy so I took an honorary noble title. Self-assigned, of course.
          Bow to the princess.

          • flyonthewall
            • Princess Poopypants

              You have that shit on speed dial, don’t you?

            • flyonthewall
            • villagedianne

              Your pic reminded me. There is a deer park in Japan where the deer are so tame you can pet them. The park is open all year except for rutting season, when the deer are not so tame.

            • flyonthewall

              oohh!

            • flyonthewall

              how you been? Doing Howdycon this yr?

            • villagedianne

              I’m good. How are you and the family doing?
              I won’t be at Howdycon this year. If you are going, I’m sure you will have a great time.
              At least I got to go last year. The way things are going with Scientology, I wonder how many more Howdycons there will be.

            • flyonthewall

              we’re good, thnx. Oldest son is a challenge πŸ™‚ He’ll be ok. Hope you and your’s are good. We won’t be going either, wish we could, is sounding like a star-studded event. Yes, we will always have Cleveland. If that’s true, we’ll have to have one last big blow out party!

            • villagedianne

              We’ll always have Cleveland.
              Great idea about the blow out party. On the beach at Clearwater?

            • πŸ™

          • Sherbet

            We have a Princess Squishy here, too. Same dynasty?

            • Princess Poopypants

              Only if she invites me….

      • Rasha

        You can say “RPF” here.

      • gtsix

        About fucking time you started using motherfucking colorfull goddamn adjectives. A Princess must represent her people.

        So damn glad you stuck around.

    • Jeb Burton

      I would of killed it in Scientology. I get down of the dance floor. Nobody does a better robot than me.

  • J. Swift

    Marty Rathbun is quoted extensively in the book Going Clear and was featured prominently in the film Going Clear. This raises the question: If Going Clear is so awful as Rathbun is now claiming, then why did he so willingly and freely participate in the book and the film? Shouldn’t he have declined any participation whatsoever given that he is such a man of conscience? Rathbun’s four year old critique of the book rings as hollow as his soul.

    For the record, Marty Rathbun admitted destroying evidence in the Lisa McPherson case; this arguably saved the Church from felony manslaughter charges. This was obstruction of justice. Thus, we see Marty’s schizophrenic range: He can destroy evidence in a felony investigation to protect David Miscavige and the Church of Scientology; turn on Scientology leader David Miscavige for eight years in Going Clear and dozens of other projects; and then rise to defend David Miscavige against charges made in projects in which Marty willingly participated.

    And even more schizoid is this: Why is Marty Rathbun defending David Miscavige, the very same man who, Marty alleged, tried to get Marty framed for the murder of his brother Bruce?

    According to a public post Marty Rathbun made on his blog, David Miscavige ordered Scientology attorney Eliot Abelson to work on a way to get the Garden Grove Police Department to re-open the case of Marty’s brother Bruce who was found murdered in 1981. As Mark Rathbun wrote in a public letter to Abelson: https://markrathbun.blog/2010/08/13/murder-outs/

    I have been interviewed by a detective John Maciel of the Garden Grove Police Department. Det Maciel informed me that a private investigator working at your direction and you personally ran an operation to have the good detective re-open the 29-year old case regarding the murder of my dear brother Bruce. It was done using the most sleazy type of innuendo and outright known falsehood in order to mislead Det Maciel
    that I should be considered a suspect.

    Marty wrote in the same public letter that he, Rathbun, put himself at risk of criminal prosecution for certain unspecified acts:

    As you well know, I am not the vindictive type. In fact, as you are acutely aware, I went out of my way in my first public interview to not mention your name so as to not expose you to possible criminal
    prosecution and disbarment for previous acts I witnessed you engage in. You know what that means. But, I will spell it out for Miscavige, because I know he cannot even conceive of such an ethic level. It means that I put myself at risk of criminal prosecution alone for acts that you participated in and as an attorney had a higher level of duty, and thus responsibility, in not engaging in.

    Marty has shown that he is a chameleon capable of changing stories and narratives to fit his particular needs.

    Marty worked for years to expose Miscavige and now he is defending the very man who tried to frame him for murder. This all shows that Marty is fully programmable and thus can reverse course and blindly follow orders when it is in his best interests to do so.

    • Observer

      “As you well know, I am not the vindictive type.”

      ETA: What, then, were the impotent threats of rue?

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a457b7c98925b4f3754f9c9bbd92b13aeecbbc22a0c56886bdecee0346a81d90.jpg

    • ze moo

      Something very schizophrenic is going on with Marty. I await more info, but if Marty were to go to the Federal authorities, he could shut down Miscavage and the Clampire.

      • J. Swift

        ze moo, Marty no longer has the power to do anything concerning Scientology. He destroyed any power he had when his wife fired her lawyers and shut down her case against Miscavige & Company.

        Marty’s mission now is simply to Fair Game leading journalists, critics, and exes as a hatchet man, a role he knows well from decades of doing this work for Scientology.

        • chukicita

          Marty is a distraction.

          I keep thinking about Bob Minton and Nibs and others who have had unexplained shifts in perspective. That seems to be somewhat of a pattern in Scn, Inc.

          • villagedianne

            These shifts in perspective are not so unexplained. The were all subjected to viscous unrelenting pressures and fair-gaming. Maybe it’s not so surprising that they caved. Maybe it’s surprising that they held out as long as they did against the onslaught.

            • Poor Nibs. I know a very Hubbardian character (he’s a developer who owns the building my studio is in) and his oldest son is a wreck of a human being from growing up with a monster for a father. You can tell the son’s a sensitive person, but he acts out and is in and out of the justice system. He always crawls back to his father for some menial job that he hates until he goes off again and the cycle repeats.

        • Serena Romeo

          I don’t think Marty gave up his right to talk to federal authorities just because his wife dropped a harassment lawsuit.

    • PeaceMaker

      Or maybe Rathbun is just simply schizoid – and doesn’t need anything more than the demon of Hubbard in his head, to drive him to whatever it is he is doing.

      As I’ve voiced earlier, I suspect that Rathbun may now think that he needs to save the subject of Scientology from the onslaught against the CofS, and may do things seemingly in alignment with the interests of Miscavige if it serves the “greatest good of the greatest number of dynamics” by preserving the “tech” that he thinks is mankind’s only hope to escape this prison planet – and salvaging his hopes of leading some new “middle path”. Or at least I think that reading of the tea leaves, is as good as any other.

      • Supper Powers

        Or, he’s just a dick.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Marty probably submitted a folder of his “genius” to Wright & Gibney to be used in the film. As they should have, they deposited it in the circular file and now he’s bitter that he handed them all that “genius” and they didn’t use him and his Hubbardian philosophy. He wants all of this to be about him and it never will be.

      • So Hubbs like. So like the butthurt that Sourceβ„’ displayed when the APA spurned his work of incredible genius.

    • gtsix

      Is he following orders? Or is he choosing to do whatever is in his best interests?

      • J. Swift

        IMO both. Marty is following orders because it is in his best interests.

        • Juicer77

          He *thinks* it’s for his own best interests. He’s getting played, big time.

    • Noesis

      Is it possible that Marty cannot make a living doing anything else besides Scientology so has decided to make himself a sort of expert witness / paid commentator on the subject…and that these videos are but the first wave of his beneficent wisdom?

      He’s got his books and Youtube clicks to sell, church crimes to conceal and a never-ending offering of delusional drama-queenery to behold.

      The most benign explanation extant for Marty’s turnaround may be that he is assuming a unique marketing position as a paid semi-neutral commentator on Scientology. In this role, he could take money from anyone in exchange for his observations.

      His multi-media elevator pitch is “I was there…and it really wasn’t so bad.”

      Just ask (and pay him) and he’ll tell you all about it.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/442586fd66021f5c5f1a49ea2226178a7d336a63d6b86ca9bcf0fe1a3c4a254d.jpg

      • J. Swift

        Judging from the low stats on these overt products he calls videos, Marty would starve if this were his only income.

        • Noesis

          True, but think of it as a line extension.

          He’s already got the “bad Scientology” stuff on Youtube and Amazon.

          Now he can have the new and improved “good Scientology” stuff to sell to a different niche market, or to anyone who is just confused.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Marty is fully programmable and thus can reverse course and blindly follow orders when it is in his best interests to do so”…and even when it’s not, it seems.

      Mutty’s cravenly self-abasing demonstrations of fealty to the tiny tyrant are cringe worthy in the extreme. If Mutty’s puppet mastered performances continue to go south as badly as they have so far, then the finale is sure to find him on his knees before lil davey, performing in private for one last time.

    • sizzle8

      Bottom line, Marty’s not right in the coconut.

    • mockingbird

      With his resume of destroying evidence, obstruction of justice and lying, Marty Rathbun is qualified to join the Trump administration. They really want racists that are anti gay and Christian supremacists so he needs to bone up on that.

    • Boston Terrier Dad

      Marty can’t tell his son that he sells used furniture!! He was the Inspector General of a multi billion dollar corporation, dammit!! ‘Make Marty Great Again’ the way you did it before. That repeat tech works for Travolta, after all. Gotta keep doing it the same way you did it when you had your greatest success…

  • Gus Cox

    That brochure is just brilliant – a full display of the Fatman’s mastery of photography and his grasp of the culture outside the Bubble.

  • nottrue

    TC” Ok now I’m pissed..Here I come.. Who wants to interview me… ” … . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0a65748e214bbe5d7848412cd5ec7e65d783b009dce6a072fd5f19b1cb240ef.jpg

    • EmmaDaoust

      You can’t handle The Tooth.

  • Chee Chalker

    Another blurb from Marty’s blog:

    “I was able to spend some quality time with my old comrade Jesse Prince. Jesse was the last man to security check David Miscavige at LRH’s direction. Jesse got his withholds and duly reported them to LRH. Unfortunately, the report never made it because it went through Broeker who was implicated in Miscavige’s crimes. So, LRH was kept in the dark and the rest is our own dark history. Because Jesse was unwilling to choose sides in the Broeker/Miscavige power struggle he was targeted for extinction by DM. But, you can’t keep a good man down – and Jesse is a Phoenix if there ever was one.”

    • flyonthewall

      nice find

      • That phrase that keeps coming to mind when I see the current administration doing criminal shit out in the open is coming in handy during the Martypocalypse: “You know we can see you, right?”

    • gtsix

      Jesse kicked cancers ass, Rathbun is but a squashed mosquito. Don’t fuck with the Prince.

  • FredEX2

    O/T but I think I found a pic of the same PI. The one walking away as the train leaves who had his huge lense focused on the door to the specific car of my train…and the other one…same shape, looks the same except in one pic he has a hat on. Both have white hair, white mustache & beard. Both have the same build, but …what do you guys think? Same guy?
    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ede42953082a2dac7803b69cf8490ca3c7574e98dd822a1841e009b1115530b9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e92255563cbd0b843f801fd6dbc4f6c0d65568a4d05d120f13ece8703272c72.jpg

  • nottrue

    Bring them on.. Leah is not afraid of anybody.. …. https://twitter.com/LeahRemini/status/874743627720687616

  • susan black

    A favorite of the bunker, Grant Cardone, is on tmz. He wants a pass to use the n-word. What a fool.

    • susan black

      I was going to comment, but changed my mind after reading a sampling of the comments. I had to come to the bunker to disinfect myself.

      • Supper Powers

        Smart move.

    • chukicita

      Will *someone please* give this man a pass and tell him to try it out in Compton?

      • Supper Powers

        How about at the local Target or Applebee’s? Nobody puts up with that shit except rappers and reality stars.

    • mockingbird

      Just be a slave for a few centuries then you get your pass, ass.

  • MM

    Having watched his new ‘interview’ videos it was predictable that Marty’s channel would eventually show up in my YT feed. Interesting choice though as to the particular video they are recommending:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88753c4806840ab23b09ca016e905967507349ddd282f0199cee1c830e20313e.jpg

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Aaron S-L is really, really going after Danny Masterson in his live Q&A videos.

    • Supper Powers

      And the. Amusing part is Danny won’t go after him for slander if it’s true! So Aaron, being confident the allegations are legit, is nailing Danny’s balls to the floor. I like it.

      • Philbyification

        Me too! Gnarly! πŸ˜‰

    • Philbyification

      Yes. I would have hoped he showed Lisa Marie more respect. Did you hear that part Betty?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I did, but Aaron was racing through the questions at that point (he had 100 people watching and asking questions live during that particular video) so his answer might have come across as hasty but only because he was speeding-answering, I think.

        • Philbyification

          One would hope. It was harsh, dismissive and lacking in humility. Lisa Marie has been through hell. ffs I DID like the Masterson slams and will continue to listen to Aaron’s vids. Very Informative indeed.

  • J. Swift

    At 20:47 I ask Jesse Prince about how LRH ordered him to sec check David Miscavige:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfwhaQnQX1c

    • Philbyification

      Thanks for posting this one!

    • Supper Powers

      It’s so great to have these recordings. Thank you.

    • Philbyification

      Is this the Jesse that was with Brooks and Minton when they helped Magoo escape?

      • Robert Eckert

        That’s right.

    • mockingbird

      Messiah Marty Rathbun has put Jesse on a list of not credible people. When Marty Rathbun said innuendo and rumor are used he spread innuendo and rumor. When he said sophistry is the use of fallacious arguments he used fallacious arguments. When he said a narrative is being used to paint everything one way and leave out all other ideas he tried to use a narrative to paint everything one way.

      See a pattern yet ?

    • Noesis

      Damn…Jessie is fabulous…one of my all-time favorite ex-Scientologists.

      Thanks for doing this interview.

    • Serena Romeo

      Very good interview, Jesse should definitely write that book, he has so much firsthand experience to share and is a good speaker as well.

      • Robert Eckert

        I believe he has been working on a book for some time.

        • Serena Romeo

          Yes, my mistake. I had read on his blog that he was working on one for years but I think he had to overcome health issues so it had to be put on the back burner. I’m glad to know it’s still in process. Such a nice man even after all he’s been through.

          • Robert Eckert

            As with Mark Bunker’s much-delayed film, I cut Jesse Prince all the slack he needs. They’ve earned it. I know that writing a book even under the best of circumstances is long hard work (I’ve been writing a novel for over three years).

            • PeaceMaker

              It’s too bad there’s not actually a Troika and Psych-Pharma paymasters to give Jesse a hand getting the book done. Perhaps current events will spur him to get his side of the story out there.

    • Serena Romeo

      Jeffrey Augustine is a skilled interviewer. He knows how to actually listen and let the guest speak and asks questions that prompt fresh anecdotes. I especially appreciate how he will gently stop the guest to explain Scientology acronyms or terms to the layperson listening in.

    • Missionary Kid

      I’ve had the privilege to meet Jesse, and he truly is a nice guy, a prince.

  • Vaquera

    Why are people commenting about pretzels?
    Twisted minds want to know.

    • Kestrel

      Downthread, Tony suggested he had something of note to add to the discussion when we stopped twisting ourselves into pretzels trying to figure out what Martyr Athbun is doing.

      • Vaquera

        Danke

        • Kestrel

          Bitte.

      • Juicer77

        He also mentioned some additional evidence he’s gathering.

    • They are tasty.

      • Vaquera

        So are Dodos

      • J. Swift

        Dodo, you probably should do the Bunker-only Sourdough Nibbler Fixation Rundown. Given that you have $900,000 in Bunker training award credits you might as well do the rundown.

        • Heh!

          • J. Swift

            The rundown begins now. You have to turn over to my care all of your sourdough nibblers, dipping sauces, cheeses, and other related paraphernalia.

    • Jimmy3
    • Observer
      • EmmaDaoust

        When you can snatch the pretzel from my hand, it will be time for you to order the next round of beer.

    • FredEX2

      Bc Tony said we were turning ourselves into pretzels trying to figure out this Marty stuff, and he didn’t think we were ready for what he really thinks it’s about. So as soon as we stop guessing and are ‘ready’ he seemed to hint that he would then tell us what HE thinks all these videos are leading up to… πŸ™‚

    • Puget Buckeye

      They go good with beer.

  • Philbyification
  • J. Swift

    In Part 9 of The Awfulness & Lies of Marty Rathbun video series, Mr. Rathbun claims that Judge Swearinger was not interfered with in the Wollersheim case. Rathbun says that nothing like interfering with a judge could have happened given the controls that were put in place after the purge of the GO.

    Oh really?

    In his book Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior, Rathbun spends Chapter 22 going into great detail about how Scientology worked to get attorney Earle Cooley’s partner lawyer Harry Manion close to Judge Londer
    in the Christofferson-Titchbourne case in Portland. This was done in order to influence Judge Londer in favor of Scientology.

    Christofferson-Titchbourne was awarded $39,000,000 by the jury after Cooley’s disastrous legal miscalculation of resting without calling witnesses or presenting evidence. The Battle of Portland was on. Ken Hoden was brought in and protests were held.

    Rathbun admits that he and Earle Cooley urged Manion to “accidentally” run into Judge Londer. The meeting turned into Manion being invited to the Judge’s home for dinner. This was all highly improper and David Miscavige sanctioned it as Rathbun details in his book. As I read Rathbun, it was due to Scientology’s behind the scene efforts that Judge Londer overturned the $39,000,000 award.

    IMO, we need to invoke HelluvaHoax’s famous law:

    HUBBARD’S LAW OF COMMOTION:
    “For every policy there is equal and opposite policy.”

    And create a new the Marty Law of Commotion: For every claim Marty makes, he makes an equal an opposite claim somewhere else.

    • Kestrel

      How can someone who has been posting articles on the internet for years not understand that coming up with a new story does not erase the old story?

      • salin

        My big question since these videos emerged: who is the intended audience?

        Not his blog readers (as the contradictions reject his own earlier writings and videos);

        not indies from the point that he defends policies that are not just “the tech” – bombing the idea that Scientology works – but is badly managed/mangled under DM’s management;

        obviously not critics (call out to fellow “ASC members” – no one has yet – after years – told me the financial obligations, the code words, or even hinted at the paths to super powers – what a crock! πŸ˜‰ )

        scientologists? He would need serious public “rehabilitation” to be allowed to be viewed given the years of status of High Enemy. Could be the point of the project – but I think that he has been so well vilified within the Co$ structure that I don’t think that is the audience.

        Maybe the general public – to have a non Co$ (heck a former critic!) give an alternative narrative on the internet in the post ‘Going Clear’, and in the current time of the ‘Aftermath’ series? I think this is the purported audience. But the videos are so easily discredited by his own earlier writings and videos – and the number of other on line media items that echo his earlier writings (per from a critic perspective) that this is a poor PR effort – if that is what this is per the intended audience.

        It strikes me that if these videos are intended to be effective – the intended audience, is an audience of one.
        The whole unfolding drama strikes me as very conflicted and on some level, perhaps, tragic.

        • mockingbird

          Maybe Marty Rathbun finally realized the glue that holds cult members minds shut is often comprised of contradictions from the cult leader. It is certainly true in Scientology as Hubbard contradicted himself thousands of times and for Trump supporters as Trump likewise contradicts himself thousands of times.

          Marty Rathbun may just be trying to graduate to the big leagues and move on up a little higher.

          • Bavarian Rage

            My thoughts exactly. The more this guy unravels the more cult leader traits he exhibits. Except that he appears to have alienated any potential would-be following. I used to be sympathetic to him back in the day – of harassment and lawsuits. Obviously I was woefully ignorant of his unhinge-ation and giftedness in self contradiction. A tragic, head scratching case study in one’s departure from mental stability.

        • The tragedy always seemed to be just below Marty’s surface bravado. Not anymore. It’s like an oil slick. You can’t even see the color the water used to be.

          • salin

            Such appropriate imagery.

    • flyonthewall

      like Trump tweets?

      • J. Swift

        Yes except Marty only has three followers.

        • flyonthewall

          and like Trump, half of them are fake.

          But Fly, that would mean 1.5 of his followers are fake. How can .5 of a follower be fake? *shrug*

          • J. Swift

            Marty’s three followers: Mike and Virginia and Scott.

            • mockingbird

              WOW. That’s a group that would have a very hard time passing any thorough mental health exams, particularly if they were honest about their beliefs . No judgement- when I was in Scientology I was in the same boat.

            • Bob Crouch

              If the TSA ever adds mental detectors they’ll be back to the old Greyhound

          • Puget Buckeye

            Maybe it’s only a thetan looking for a meat body right now. So it’s no quite an entire person. Just a theory.

        • KKat

          LOL :-0

        • sizzle8

          Interesting who is commenting on his Facebook page (Mark Rathbun) and still supporting him.

      • Supper Powers

        Check your mail Flyboy.

    • salin

      And in this odd, and increasingly disturbing situation – those same claims have been made by the same person. Seems like Marty is pretty committed to creating cognitive dissonance with his own long time readers and associates by creating a parallel narrative that is at points contradicted by his earlier narrative, that would by context contradict his narrative when he was a highly positioned Co$ ‘warrior’ (his word.)

    • Chee Chalker

      In search of another contradictory statement of Marty’s I watched several of his videos today (Yes I am a πŸ˜‡).
      Marty also spoke about how they ‘convinced’ the coroner to change her mind. (ETA in Lisa McPherson’s case)

      Of course, Revisionist Marty won’t debate anyone on these claims of his – he’ll just do what he does – create his own narrative and announce it as ‘fact’

      • J. Swift

        Revisionist Rathbun is a great title. I think that could be a new name we can make stick.

        • Noesis

          The avatar “Face” over at ESMB knew Rathbun while they were both in the Sea Org and dubbed him “Spinnin’ Marty” many years ago because of his duplicitous, self-serving nature which manifested itself decades before he ever left the church.

          • MarcabExpat

            No wonder he idolizes a certain sci-fi salesman.

      • Kestrel

        You know, there was someone who used to do that. Said he did research and everything. If only his name was at my fingertips.

        • Chee Chalker

          Rhymes with cupboard?

          • EmmaDaoust

            Rhymes with con?

          • Kestrel

            You know, I think you’re on to something there.

    • Noesis

      People who are paid to make claims tend to be flexible on the details.

      • salin

        Such a strong analogy to the internal political dramas we find unfolding around us each day in the US.

    • mockingbird

      Is this a law of Martyology ?

      • Puget Buckeye

        It’s the law of pretzel logic.

        • mockingbird

          Mmm pretzels .

    • Shivani33

      Here lies Mark Rathbun. A weak man who tried to make himself important via Scientology. Here he lies and lies and lies.
      Ah, no. Not an elegy, just another chapter.

    • PeaceMaker

      Thanks for starting to debunk Rathbun’s claims about the Wollersheim case. I’d like to see a thorough review of the evidence and testimony for Scientology’s actions in the Wollersheim case and against Judge Swearinger, particularly as regards the claims by Vicki Aznaran that he referred to. It would be interesting to see it conclusively proven that he knows a lot less about the totality of what was actually going on than he realized.

      I just checked on the supposed “fact” that Rathbun was so adamant about, that scanners can’t pick up cell phones. An internet search quickly turns up the real facts that over-the-counter scanners could, before 1994 – and that modified or special scanners could afterwards; Gold Base’s remote location may also have been on more easily monitored analog cell services, much longer than elsewhere. If one of his most confident assertions is so easily falsified with unquestionable technical facts, that doesn’t bode well for the rest of his case. This is like listening to one of the flat earth videos that Chris Shelton debunked very recently, how ironic.

      p.s. I like your Marty Law of Commotion – he’s following in his idol’s vein, alright.

      p.p.s. I owe you a public admission that I have to eat crow over the issue of dating these videos. But as far as I’m concerned, our agreement to respectfully disagree is still on as regards the central point of whether Rathbun is doing these videos for the CofS or for his own quixotic purposes (my theory).

      • Serena Romeo

        I saw definite tremors of his head at the end of video six (3:51 mins). That combined with speech anomalies I never saw in his other videos- stumbling, long pauses, lip smacking…it reminded me of someone with Parkinsons or some other neurological issue. But then I also noticed that he said the same words, in the same cadence as Mike Rinder did to Sweeny when he was denying that he’d been beaten by Miscaviage– “never happened… never ever ever happened.”
        Whatever the reason, it’s tragic to watch the degeneration of a human being who was, at one time, doing some good things while trying to steer a different course. Likewise I feel deeply for those who knew and trusted him and have been harmed by his words and actions.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I would like your comment on this conjecture:

      It could be considered that Marty(r) is now fulfilling the terms of the agreement. The primary danger to Miscavige has always been the credible testimony of those who witnessed and/or participated in his rise to power and the ruthless exercise of that power. And few would be as credible a witness as Marty(r) Rathbun who was second only to Miscavige at the top of Scientology, for many years.

      In any agreement that may have been made, the vital thing Marty(r) has traded is the promise to not testify. But that testimony is only as valuable as his credibility. We do not know what consideration Marty(r) may or may not have received, but one wonders how he could ensure his own coin. Promises are not enough.

      So, perhaps, Marty(r) is engaged in discrediting himself. He is busily engaged in eroding his credibility as a potential witness. Demonstrating in public complete somersaults in thinking and memory, so as to build a reference resource for DM’s legal team should Marty(r) ever be forced to testify.

  • Fink Jonas

    Compared with the photographs they put out nowadays; with halos or a white light surrounding the subjects , those photographs fall short from representing an “up tone” state of mind, it looks like a drunken party with all those beer bottles on the table, even Source doesn’t look “up tone” On the power of Source photograph.
    “Go to parties” …ha! like that happens once you are in. All the lies on that pamphlet Jeezz.

  • Mick Roberts

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Love it – they’re not paying it attention, but not avoiding the question. Perfect response as it’s accurate to EVERY video thus far!… he’s pulling a near 180 on every item discussed thus far so the idea of HIM talking about anyone else’s “credibility?!?!” πŸ™„πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

      • Mick Roberts

        Right, they’re not avoiding the question. Wish Marty wouldn’t avoid Tony’s question. The silence seems to be giving a pretty clear answer. He could put this issue to rest immediately if he would simply respond……unless he doesn’t have a reasonable answer to the question…..

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          But that is exactly the issue… like you said – he doesn’t have a reasonable answer so he relied upon his fanatics to offer up alernate theories like hacking.

          To be honest, I initially thought there COULD be other reasons, but his silence & then his “reply” to Dani when asked said it all for me! Esp considering Dani was one of very few people who stuck up for him post-court case & last year. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice… not going to happen!

      • FredEX2

        😘..

    • Bob Crouch

      The other question I would like Marty to answer: If the book was so awful why did he return to be part of the film?

  • WhatAreYourCrimes

    L. Ron Hubbard was as crappy at staging a scene for a photograph as he was crappy at churning out sci-fi schlock at a penny a word. Genius, my ass.

    Seriously, look at that crap. This must have been his “hip to the younger generation and feelin’ groovy” stage.
    Porno sets from the 70’s had more artistic merit.

    • NerdHerd

      LOL ol LRH was good at polishing turds and marketing them. THAT IS IT.

  • mockingbird

    Some of you already know Marty Rathbun is getting tore a new asshole over at ESMB.

    • Supper Powers

      Tony Ortega is my only cult leader. I only read his stuff.

    • Jimmy3

      That’s okay. We are healing him with rainbow butterflies and sparkly pixie magic here.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Oh, let’s not waste the sparkly pixie magic on him. Can’t we save it for ourselves?

      • salin

        damn, J3, keyboard laughing/while swallowing incidents are only supposed to happen with am coffee.

      • FredEX2

        Namaste. Give love a chance.

        (FredEX2 releasing the turtle doves )

    • sizzle8

      Tearing a new asshole into an asshole creates a moebius strip of assholeness.

      • FredEX2

        That about covers every possible place you could tear one. πŸ˜†

    • MarcabExpat

      Every time I start to roll my eyes and worry we’re getting too much drama in our Bunker, I look over at ESMB for some perspective and let out a sigh of relief.

  • nottrue

    Neil looked Hip back then

    • FredEX2

      That’s true nottrue

  • Karen

    I was just thinking about how hard this must be, for those who considered Marty a friend, to see him return to promoting the lies of Scientology. Or, even for those who didn’t really know him, but who somehow benefitted from the fight Marty fought for so long against the “church”. I know there must be a lot of anger and frustration when you watch the videos, and I’m sorry for that. I hope you can find comfort in knowing that the light is shining brightly on the destruction Scientology has caused to people and families, and you now have allies outside of the church, like myself, who care and will stand by you in your fight. ❀

    • Supper Powers

      Hmm. You look trollishly familiar.

      • Karen

        I’m not a troll. Just someone who has become interested in the issue over the last couple of years, but especially since watching Aftermath. Sometimes when I write a supportive comment in here it’s followed by someone attacking me as a “troll”. I know it might be hard to imagine that non-scientologists care about this issue, but there are people like me who do.

        • FredEX2

          Come sit by me. I’m in the doghouse this week. I need a friend who isn’t annoyed with me yet.

          • Puget Buckeye

            I up voted not because you’re in the doghouse. But because I know what it’s like to need a friend. I hope the smart people here can identify the people who were following you. Listen to your spidey sense.

            • FredEX2

              😘…

          • Supper Powers

            Been there, too. People will get over it. Have some wine.

            • FredEX2

              Oh yes please. Something red. I’ll get the glasses.

          • Liberated

            Why are you in said doghouse ? News to me.

            • Robert Eckert

              It was a brief spat and all ruffled feathers have been plucked.

            • FredEX2

              Lol. That’s about it.

        • Supper Powers

          No, it’s not your comment and it’s not an attack. Your comment is nice. I really do remember you being here during a rather heavy troll traffic evening about a month ago. Then you went away.

          • Karen

            Yeah, I just checked my history. You called me a troll about a month ago. πŸ˜‰ I wish I could convince you otherwise, but since watching Aftermath I get why you might have trust issues.

            • Supper Powers

              I think you’ll be ok.

          • MarcabExpat

            There’s a troll here today, definitely.

            • Supper Powers

              Hi Marty! *waves with one finger*

    • Especially those who confided in him (he once offered ‘independent auditing’ to ‘repair’ the damage done by the CofS) and are now pondering the implications of that Israeli email.

      I think that’s the point of the exercise. To insure UTRs (and everyone else if possible) can’t bring themselves to trust critics, look at what’s on the Internet and think about it for themselves.

  • Chee Chalker

    If genius is the ability to see analogy, certainly madness is the ability to see analogy where none exists.
    – Mike Nesmith

  • FredEX2

    I don’t think Marty Ratburn is working for Miscavige, I think he’s working WITH Miscavige.

    (FredEX2 assuming pretzel position )

    • TexasBroad

      I used to be able to do that.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Me too. Now someone would have to call 911 to get me untangled. Very undignified.

    • Bavarian Rage

      It’s hard not to, isn’t it? While we concurrently pledge to ourselves not to do so (so that Proprietor will spill the beans sooner), we look down at ourselves only to discover that we’re already half pretzelled again!

      • FredEX2

        I’m trying.

        (FredEX2 zipping lips …until Chinese food delivery is here πŸ˜† Gimme that spicy Kung Pao Chicken !)

        • Supper Powers

          That’s my favorite hangover food.

  • flyonthewall

    we can handle the truth, we’re ready.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dNIQVYGXbM

    • FredEX2

      Fly, see truth below πŸ‘‡

      • flyonthewall

        I don’t doubt that TXBroad used to be able to do that but pics would be better

        dox or stfu, as they say

        • TexasBroad

          LOL. One exists, somewhere.
          But I won’t be posting it on the internet. πŸ™‚

    • Supper Powers

      Here’s the troot. TO is paying Marty to act like a loon just so the stats at this blog go straight up and vertical when we lose our minds.

  • Chris Mann

    Well, I was a Marty fan, and then a Marty hater, then I figured he can say what he wants to say and I’ll check it out regardless. It’s generally worth reading/watching, for me anyway.

    It’s like this blog, I don’t agree with a lot of it, but I can read it now and then just to see what you guys think.

    We don’t all have to agree on everything.

    On his recent videos I think he makes a few solid points that just might be worth looking at. To avoid argument I’ll just leave it at that.

    In these new videos he seems to have what in Scientology you would call a “comm lag”. It basically means there’s a bunch of stuff in your mind your communication has to filter through before it comes out your mouth. His speech is not as easy to understand as in the past. If you compare these videos to something like the videos of Mike and Marty fishing and talking it’s apparent there has been some major change in Marty.

    I don’t know what’s going on. Maybe he’s been talking to Miscavige and they reached an agreement. Maybe the Church made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Who knows.

    As far as betrayal or back-stabbing I think for that to be true there has to be sides. The good guys, anti-Scientologist and the bad guys, who are I guess anybody who doesn’t toe the line. To see the truth you have to get out of that viewpoint. When you are at war like this you are always right and the enemy is always wrong. Your facts are always correct and the enemy’s always lies. Do you guys get this? That was one of the points I thought was legitimate.

    • Gib

      why on earth would you be a Marty fan and then a Marty hater, that has nothing to do with scientology. The only truth is that there are no clears or OT’s, Hubbard said he failed, and there is no OT9, incomplete Bridge.

      Doesn’t matter what I say or what anybody else says about the above I just stated, find out for yourself, go and search and do a due diligence if there is a clear or OT.

      • Chris Mann

        I don’t know if you’ve been around for the whole thing. It started in 2008-2009. You’re repeating some stuff you read somewhere, which is fine, but I was in it.

        • Gib

          so was I

        • pluvo

          “You’re repeating some stuff you read somewhere,”

          That is an “enemy line” you are forwarding to discredit the sci critics in a generalized way. It is also patronizing. (I was also in).

          • Chris Mann

            OK, that was a little rude I guess. I felt like Gib essentially ignored everything I said and “replied” with a non sequitur comment about no OT’s.

    • pluvo

      Why would you be a “Marty hater”? One just needs to observe what’s going on, no need to “hate”.
      Btw, I think to label all people who don’t agree and show the out-points as “haters” is just a tactic trying to discredit and divert.

    • Chris Mann

      On the “fan” and “hater” thing- when I left the Church I was into what I thought Marty was doing early on, and then disagreed with him later on. It’s not that I literally hated him.

    • Juicer77

      In your opinion – why do you think Rathbun won’t answer the Lemberger email question?

    • MarcabExpat

      As to your last paragraph:

      Holy fuck just no. When facts are VERIFIABLE they are simply that and the opposite are lies. The research was done, and his story doesn’t hold up. Marty is lying through his teeth. This is not a “two sides” issue. That is his LEAST legitimate point. Why are you even making this argument?

  • NerdHerd

    Ahhhhhh how Farty Bumburn gets his ego in a twist. Been watching his videos refuting bits of Lawrence Wright’s novel. A large part of his assertions are based on “I was involved in that operation and that’s not what happened.” Its come out a number of times that Marty might have known most of what was going on, Miscavige operates on his own unbeknownst to his underlings. Poor Farty, you really think you were the be all end all #2 of SCN at the time, but you were only one of a score of underlings who may have been involved.
    Farty needs to get over himself. He only knew a portion of what was going on. Micromanaging megalomaniacs like Miscavige generally don’t give up or share control and will not tell their underlings everything that’s going on. Until Bumburn gets that through his thick skull, he will never see the relevance of Wright’s narrative and will always find fault. Farty, is it Wright’s investigation work, sources, and other materials his book is based upon that are wrong, or is it the preconceived notion you knew everything that was happening with the COS might be wrong? I think the latter is more likely to be the truth as Mr. Bumburn is still upset he is not being quoted as source……

    • PeaceMaker

      Rathbun also probably misses the extent to which things were compartmentalized, and farmed out to lawyers who then hired operatives like PIs, in part to deliberately create “plausible denial”. Mike Rinder has spoken to some of that, admitting that even as another top executive he didn’t know everything that was going on.

      And, I don’t know how responsibilities were broken down exactly, but he wasn’t ever even an OSA executive, was he? So what makes him think that he would have known about all of Scientology’s “special” operations?

      It seems like his ego drives him to assume that he was at he center of everything. One possibility, is that he was actually viewed as unreliable and unstable, and deliberately not told everything.

      I wonder if this might even point to the possibility of a layer of GO-style operations that just went further underground after Operation Snow White broke, and are yet to be fully uncovered.

  • Gib

    Hubbard’s promo piece sounds like Dale Carnegie

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

    • PeaceMaker

      I think that the communication course borrows heavily from Dale Carnegie, probably via one of Hubbard’s uncredited collaborators who had taken some course. Carnegie was more successful than Hubbard ever was, and his work has stood the test of time much better and continues to be popular with professionals to an extent that Dianetics and Scientology can only dream of (though they sometimes claim it, falsely).

  • willloomis

    I think I may know the guy in the white sweater standing behind Hubbard on the Power of Source record. He’s an LA music producer named John Ryan who told me at one point he was married to L Ron Hubbard’s daughter! My manager recommended I meet some different producers back in 2010 and Ryan was one of them. I remember going over to his place and seeing those green Scientology books and asking him some questions about Scienology, (I became a scientology watcher in 2006). I never worked with him but over the years i would get call’s from him usually trying to sell me on a tour i had to pay for or radio airplay i had to pay for, but I would always answer his calls to see if I could get an interesting Scientology story. I think I’ll give him a call this week and see if he’ll talk about the Power of Source record if that is indeed him, it looks like him.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      The bear in the white sweater is Russ Meadows, the flute/bass player in the band.
      Back row – Russ Meadows, Laurel Watson, Tony Strawn
      Front row – Annie Broeker, Dan Auerbach, LRH, Dede Reisdorf, David Rousseau

      I also found this: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/the-apollo-stars-power-of-source-1974-audio.59849/
      (refresh) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/779a064a4e24e1e9ccca44587afb36d265bdd5ad75a5ee33855ede5ced90955d.png

      • Missionary Kid

        I contacted a person who was a $cientologist when the album was made, and they thought that they had heard that Annie Broeker had died, but they were uncertain. Does anyone else have better information?

        • Intergalactic Walrus
          • Missionary Kid

            Thank you,
            The Bunker has so many resources. I called the person and let them know that their recollection was right about Annie.

            • Tory Christman

              Thanks, Missionary Kid for letting me know. πŸ™‚

        • stillgrace2

          Annie died from cancer a few years back. sciloons didn’t even tell her family until 6 months later. Marty Rathbun has much to answer for regarding Annie Broeker. Tracking her down like he did. Monster.

          I wish, I wish … Annie had pulled a Claire Headley and sat on her purse on the floor and just refused to go back! What lovely children Annie could have had with her beloved.

          Geez, I can’t go on, I feel my BP rising.

          • Missionary Kid

            I called them and told them. Thanks for the information. Really nice how they informed the family…NOT.

            The person said that the EP of $cientologists is that they either get out or die. So many die of cancer.

            • stillgrace2

              Yes, many do die of cancer. Miscavige had Annie leave Int Base when she became ill. She died in an apartment somewhere. I can only hope she had someone to care for her.
              She was the one that did the day-to-day caring for LRH before he died. You’d think that would count for something in that world. But, you know …. Miscavige.

            • Missionary Kid

              I doubt it would have made any difference. The only person that LRH wanted to be taken care of was himself, and I’ll bet that what he did for his wife was to keep her quiet.

            • stillgrace2

              You don’t think she died with no one to watch over her, do you? I hope not. In the last stages of cancer – when you die from cancer – you need help: pain meds and someone to wash you, change your sheets, feed you, dispense those pain meds, give you water, give you companionship and an ear to listen. I hope she had that. She deserved that.

            • My theory is that the apparently high cancer mortality is down to the way in which Scientology discourages people from just going to the doctor.

              By the time they are diagnosed it’s too late – and even if they get an early diagnosis, they are more likely to be passed on to Scientology’s quack doctors.

              In that sense, Scientology is responsible for the deaths of a great many people.

            • Tory Christman

              In the 90’s I went to see Dr Denk to ask him “WTF is going on? Why are
              ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.these Scientologists dying?”
              I’ve written this before, but for anyone who missed it, here’s what he said:
              “ALL The Scientologists who tried to handle Cancer naturally are Dead.
              Some who used some natural, some medical…some died, some lived.
              Those are our “Stats” at the “Shaw Health Center”.
              Sad…and true. May they all R.I.P. <3

            • pluvo

              Agree. There is also the factor of stress regarding to weaken the immune system and regarding to cancer. In the Sea Org (and Orgs) there is a continues artificial emergency and thus stress due to the constant statpush. There is no time given for relaxation and sleep is regularly deprived over years.

            • MarcabExpat

              That, and a lot of such deaths happen to people who’ve been on the Freewinds. IMHO that’s not a coincidence.

            • Tory Christman

              That person is *me*. Sadly…I have witnessed *waaaay* too many $cientologists
              dying far too young. The “EP” (End Phenomena, final product) seems to be either:
              Get OUT Or
              DIE.

      • stillgrace2

        Homer Schomer – now that’s a name!

  • Sibs

    Tony, you tease!

    Don’t mind me, I’ll just hide here in the corner and wait to see how this all ends up.

    I mean, I’m not trying to be a conspiracy theorist pretzel. Remember when we all had high hopes for Mosey and her baby? I’m just hopeless trying to hang on to that and I don’t like where this is going. Haven’t liked where this has been going for a while.

    • Jimmy3

      You a soft pretzel with jalapeno dip

      • Sibs

        I don’t really have a reply so I just wanted to say hi, Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy!

        • Jimmy3

          Hiiii <3

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Well this is comical. I went over to Marty’s Place to view Chapter 8 and after it was over YouTube thoughtfully recommended a video they thought would complement my previous viewing experience. Here it is:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f7d0a78b53422d5076f87e5abf6ff5cb4241acb36f118fb5f274d6565490f9d.png

    (And no. It is not a TV ad for Scientology.)

    • Missionary Kid

      How do I get it to run? Please give us the url for the video. Should I just search for “Going Clear, Part 8” on YouTube?

      • Juicer77

        If you don’t want to give him the viewer numbers, Mark Foster has posted a mirror version with the comments open. Anyone have the link handy?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        It is at Rathbun’s blog. Just type his name into google and the blog should appear in the search results.

  • OTD:OutTheDoor

    I am dying to find that groovy Pizza Hut and order up red wine. Anyone want to arrange an outing?

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Why is she bent over staring at her toes while he dances?

  • RexAinsfree

    Marty’s video # 16: ” jk! “

  • sizzle8

    it just sounds right!

    ‘Wonder Woman shows I can be a (good) trouble-maker’

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40266804

  • Mockingbird

    Marty Rathbun’s Going Clear part 9 is up. Blech.

  • GrangerFX

    Who is Marty making these videos for? It is not the Scientologists. They would not be allowed to watch videos from one of the biggest SPs on the planet. It is not for the anti-Scientologists who are not fooled for one instant by his drivel. It is not for people who know nothing about the subject because none of it would make sense to them. So who is left? The well informed but still undecided wogs? Isn’t that kind of impossible? I guess Marty still has a few fans left somewhere but even those must have their heads spinning by now.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I think they are just an extension of the Aftermath smear videos. The timing seems coincidental.
      Granted I only watched the first one and then decided scratching my arse and yelling at clouds was a more productive use of the 6 minutes of my remaining years, however long they may be. πŸ™‚

    • Tory Christman

      Imnsho…and experience from working with the top secret OSA International Internet Mafia, Marty is doing *exactly* what their program is all about:
      1) Distract off of *anything* they don’t want see. That usually starts with facts about Hubbard, “dave” and C of $/any abuses or front groups
      Marty’s Bullshit is a 100% Distraction. I’m surprised to come on the Bunker and see how much of it is about “Marty”. Who cares? Really. If you are waking up and lurking here, reading about Marty or listening to Marty’s BS will not help you, at all. Please lurk earlier on many other key issues Tony has exposed.
      Learn the FACTS about L. Ron Hubbard, the Con man. David Miscavige, the abuser. C of $ and their endless rip offs. Their Front groups and why they are phony, also. Learn the FACTS.

      2) Degrade any activists and people who expose facts they don’t want known.
      Ahhh Marty has attacked Tony, Karen, now Lawrence Wright? Good Gawd. Why is he being discussed
      over and over.

      3) “Slime the area so no one wants to post there”. Seems like a long shot, until they get their product. Look at “ARS”-Dead. ESMB, still around, but not much. Xenu.net…always a good reference web site, as is Tony’s.

      Just thought I’d ask. I’m sure it’s not popular….but I’d rather remind you all of their game…just so you Keep in Some of the exposure they don’t want seen. πŸ™‚

      • TheMirrorThetan

        I agree 100%.
        It is just shiny tinsel meant to distract from the important things.
        And that is what they love.

      • Bob

        Tory, that’s just what I was saying. Marty is irrelevant and a wasteful distraction.
        Thanks for pointing this out.

    • Robert Eckert

      The videos are for an audience of one.

  • GrangerFX

    Marty denied that there is a snipers nest up on the hill above Int base. He said he should know because he was deeply involved with security at the base.

    • MarcabExpat

      I think there’s general agreement among escapees that it was a lookout. This is the same one that got a close-up in the latest drone video.

  • Tory Christman

    Hey Kids! Long time no see…..but good to be back here at the Bunker! πŸ™‚
    Amazing to see those gawd awful photos of Hubbard. I remember newly “in”,
    I think in 1970 or so I saw these videos. I had joined in 1969 at 22, having quit college
    to become a “Dianetic Auditor”. Of course seeing this knucklehead photos and insane
    videos, with Hubbard in his black cape…I remember it like it was yesterday.
    I sat there a bit stunned, as of course all I’d heard was how *great L. Ron Hubbard is”.
    Watching the video…he looked like a nutball.
    I remember thinking: “Dear God…PLEASE don’t let my parents ever see these idiotic videos
    and photos”.
    Funny now you’re all getting good laughs about them, years later. Much love to you all πŸ™‚
    Tory/Magoo

    • Robert Hanna Moore

      The body language and facial expressions in the Apollo Stars pic! Every. one. looks. miserable.

    • Newiga

      Good to see you, Tory!! xxoo

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      Hello Tory!
      I’m watching your new video on Andreas and your escape at this moment.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxAke6qx7uk

      • Tory Christman

        Thanks for sharing it, LR. I was going to wait until tomorrow to share it, as most are already in bed. We can do both πŸ™‚
        To see the actual escape story…for anyone interested, just go to YouTube, and type in:
        ToryMagoo44+Escape. It’s a 10 part series, and from all who have watched it, they seem to like it.
        I say give it a shot. πŸ™‚

        • Stephanie Loving

          I’ve watched all 10 parts and it encapsulates the evil actions of the cult. And how good people can prevail, survive and live to tell the tale and make a difference. The story of Andreas and Tory is inspiring. Thank you again Tory for telling your story.

      • Stephanie Loving

        Thanks Lousy Ratatouille!! I love Tory’s videos.

    • pluvo

      Toryyy……!!!!

      Nice to see you back πŸ™‚ .

      • Tory Christman

        Thank you, pluvo!! πŸ™‚

    • Juicer77

      Always lovely to see you, it’s like ray of sunshine. πŸ™‚

    • Ann B Watson

      πŸ’›πŸ’›

    • Stephanie Loving

      Going right now to watch your new video up at your youtube website. So happy to see you Tory! Always exciting and fun to hear from you. You are the real deal.

  • Vault Digger

    Did someone ask for a pretzel?

    • Newiga

      J3?

      • Vault Digger

        Yes. I may be contorted and inside out, but I am full of doughy goodness.

      • Jimmy3

        No

        • Eivol Ekdal

          What’s for breakfast Champ?

          • Jimmy3

            Thinking about eating this pretzel guy.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      FYI – Dodo prefers sourdough nibs.

      • Vault Digger

        An inferior snack IMO.

  • Edward Whalley

    What always pops out at me when I see or hear or read something by Hubbard is how amateurish and ordinary his stuff really is when the rubber meets the road. However,given half a chance…

    I can imagine how it would be if someone mentioned say, fashion design in his presence.

    (Slightly doped-up sounding drawl, big smile,hat on head…)

    “Now, there’s really no trick to do what these Frenchmen do,did some m’self’ waiting to come back from Europe.” He sketches vaguely on a napkin a woman with a flat hat and bell-shaped dress.

    http://www.dior.com/couture/var/nfsdior/var/dior/storage/maison-dior/mazarine/images/medias/history/le-new-look/new_look_tailleur_bar_vzg_03.jpg

    “Sold the notion to one of the froggers for the price of a glass of cheap plonk, and let me tell you all French wine isn’t worth more than ten cents in my book, you’d be better off drinking mouthwash…well,what do I hear my wife asking for her birthday next year…”

    The dress in question is the Dior New Look, one of the most famous, profitable, respected and influential works of haute couture in history. Someone who could prove they sold the sketch to Dior before 1947 would be in line to be awarded …well let’s just say, quite a lot.

    “Of course I let him have it. Little queer, just wanted to gyp me anyway…comes of being 1.1…..”