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Leah Remini’s ‘Troublemaker’ will become a Lifetime movie: Who plays Tom Cruise?

 
It’s Leah Remini’s world and we’re all just living in it. The King of Queens actress continues to surprise us after she defected from the Church of Scientology in 2013, wrote a bestseller about it in 2015 (Troublemaker: Surviving Scientology and Hollywood), and then rolled the dice last year with an A&E television series, Scientology and the Aftermath, that became a huge hit for the cable network.

Season two of her series — which she executive produces — is being filmed now, and Leah has also been reunited with her King of Queens co-star, Kevin James, on his CBS series, Kevin Can Wait, where she will become a regular cast member in the show’s second season.

And now, as if that weren’t enough, we received confirmation that Leah will be producing a Lifetime movie version of Troublemaker that we cannot imagine is going to make Tom Cruise and the gang very happy.

If you’ve read the book, you know that its most important scene takes place in a castle outside Rome where Cruise and Katie Holmes were married in 2006. Leah noticed that Tom’s best man, Scientology leader David Miscavige, was there without his wife Shelly, and was getting a little too friendly with his female personal assistant. When Leah dared to ask about it, she was told by Sea Org majordomo and church spokesman Tommy Davis that she didn’t have “the fucking rank” to ask such a question.

Can they say “the fucking rank” on Lifetime? We sure hope so!

It turned out that Shelly Miscavige had vanished from Scientology’s secretive Int Base more than a year before, in late summer 2005, and to this day we believe she’s been banished by her husband to a small California mountain compound operated by Scientology in total secrecy.

The night of the big wedding, all Leah knew was that she had witnessed Scientology’s “pope” doing things he shouldn’t have, and so, like a good Scientologist, she turned him in, daring to write a “Knowledge Report” on the church leader. For her trouble, she was later ordered to Scientology’s spiritual headquarters in Clearwater, Florida, and was put through three months of intense interrogations and mental conditioning until she rescinded her observations about Miscavige. Oh, and she was billed for that mental torture, to the tune of about $300,000. It took her several more years before she completely cut off ties with the church, but that experience definitely began her disillusionment.

So you can see, there’s plenty of material for a Lifetime movie, and we can hardly wait to see it.

Let the speculation about who’s going to play Tom Cruise begin!

Leah is on such a roll. And all she had to do is walk away from a stifling organization that claims it helps celebrity careers.

 

 
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Man who wrote three books about Scientology complains his story isn’t getting out

We’re not sure there’s a lot to say about Marty Rathbun’s new video, which makes accusations about an “anti-Scientology cult” run by three “farmers” who are leading a bunch of sheep. We’re mostly impressed by how well Marty cleaned up for this thing. “Love his new threads,” Lawrence Wright tells us.

 

 
We did want to address his complaint that documentarians always leave his most interesting material on the cutting room floor. Marty Rathbun is a top former Scientology official who, since going public as a critic of church leader David Miscavige in 2009, has self-published three books about Miscavige and Scientology. He’s also authored hundreds of posts at a very well-read blog that for years was watched closely by journalists and former church members.

This is not a guy who was unable to get his story out.

We have previously published an overview of the entire arc of his blog from 2009 to 2017. In that piece we did our best to give Marty his due and explain what were the big themes of his website.

As for his books, we covered those closely as well.

In 2012, we reviewed Marty’s first book, What is Wrong with Scientology? Healing Through Understanding. And here’s one of the things we said about it:

It’s well written, and, for independent Scientologists, probably an inspiring book that dares to challenge not only Miscavige but also Hubbard himself — a sacrilegious notion that will make it incredibly risky for church members to have a copy in their possession.

Later that year, Rathbun published his second book, The Scientology Reformation: What Every Scientologist Should Know, and again, we gave it a thorough review, praising Rathbun for new revelations about Tom Cruise and Nazanin Boniadi, for example. We found this book to be an effective companion to what Rathbun had been doing on his blog at that time:

For the past three years, Rathbun’s blog has reached deep into Scientology and is finding an audience among longtime members who have reached similar conclusions about Miscavige’s obsession with empty new buildings, a Super Power edifice that never seems to open, and eternal hard-sell fundraising for the IAS. Now, in one hand-held volume, Rathbun is attempting to put that message into something that can be smuggled from church member to church member. It may have a devastating effect.

And then in May 2013, Rathbun came out with Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior, and we had mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, it contained really fascinating material about Rathbun’s personal background, and it also had some of the best material ever about the final years of L. Ron Hubbard’s life. But we found it curious that Rathbun still considered his time as a church enforcer as a righteous project, and he still hadn’t come to grips with the harassment campaigns he had helped the church visit upon its perceived enemies.

Rathbun apparently sees himself as something of a legendary character, from his electro-shock prenatal memory, to his charmed life on the basketball court, to his rise in the Sea Org, to his brilliant fights in the courtroom. It’s David Miscavige, ultimately, who let him down, not Hubbard. But even today, Rathbun is still a “Scientology Warrior,” even if he does anger some of his fellow independent Scientologists by criticizing some of Hubbard’s policies and treating some of Hubbard’s space opera as “metaphor.” As in his first book, Rathbun once again feels compelled to tell us that the genius of L. Ron Hubbard’s notion of a “Clear” is a human being who simply knows his or her “basic personality.” Rathbun is supremely satisfied that this is what Hubbard gave him all along. Rathbun knows himself, and that is enough. But after getting through this book’s 326 pages, it’s even clearer to us that Marty Rathbun hasn’t even begun to understand himself or what he did in the name of Scientology.

He didn’t like that assessment too much, and he told us so. But then, Marty never did have a difficult time speaking his mind. So, complaining today that he’s been ignored doesn’t really reflect that reality.

So what’s really going on? As with all things Rathbun, the speculation will run rampant.

 
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HOWDYCON ANNOUNCEMENT

 
Wow, we’re getting close to the start of HowdyCon 2017 in Denver. And we had a slight change in logistics from our caterer for our dinner on Saturday night, June 24. If you plan to go, make sure you have confirmed with Kim O’Brien, our coordinator, and visit our HowdyCon website where she has instructions for how you can pay for the dinner fee that night. You need to do that right away to make sure you’ll be included in the Saturday night festivities, which include:

— London-based Australian journalist Steve Cannane talking about his book Fair Game
— A spoken-word performance from former Sea Org official Claire Headley
— Cathy Schenkelberg performing for us scenes from her one-woman show, “Squeeze My Cans”

You don’t want to miss out, so please visit the convention page and get in contact with Kim.

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,774 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,531 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,877 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,371 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,411 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,123 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 649 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,738 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,878 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,198 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,173 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 529 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,831 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 938 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,340 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,213 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 794 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,299 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,543 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,652 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 7, 2017 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • On yet further close scrutiny of Martyr Athbun’s video (sound muted, naturally):

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c59435124cea7ed53e3ef525504855cb06a1512af9acaafb2bcb38eb9b997c4a.jpg

    • Sherbet

      I wish we could attribute Rathbun’s unraveling to whatever is in that glass. But it just isn’t that easy.

    • Techie

      Talking Heads, from the album Stop Making Sense,

      You may ask yourself
      What is that beautiful house?
      You may ask yourself
      Where does that highway GO to?
      You may ask yourself
      Am I right?…Am I wrong?
      You may say to yourself
      MY GOD!…WHAT HAVE I DONE?

      Same as it ever was – same as it ever was – same as it ever was – same as it ever was…..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

  • OOkpik

    Little Beau Peep
    Has lost his sheep.
    How can he be so pious
    To blame their spree on Farmers Three
    And confirmation bias?

  • nottrue

    I have never seen a TC movie Ranked so bad..But he is a Farmer with many Sheep https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2712164350d6a39215a4029dba65d77f8249f727064fdd0a2f408d8b228a6fdd.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      ppl were laughing at the preview when I saw it play b4 GOTG2

      • GrangerFX

        I think they were bringing me my food at the time and I missed it. I love these new dining theaters with the reclining seats.

        • mark

          Cinedines are great eat dinner while watching the move just like home only when you wake up at the end the dirty plates are gone and you can’t rewind to see what you missed.

    • Sherbet

      He looks like he’s mummified. The seriously sincere trademark scowl is passe, Tom.

    • GrangerFX

      Whooos your Mummy?

    • lynn

      clearly, the SO hasn’t had a chance to rate this..just wait.

    • Kestrel
      • Sherbet

        The ads will read: “Rollicking! A studio’s dream! What comes next??”

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Ha!

    • Observer

      This makes me happy.

      • MarcabExpat

        Did you read the Guardian review yet? Oh man. Oh, man.

    • PeaceMaker

      Thanks for that information about reviews.

      The premise for the movie looked weak and contrived, so I’m not surprised. The film’s release was delayed, putting it up against weak completion, which may have been intentional, though it’s possible that the much better received Wonder Woman could give it a run for the money even though that film has already been out for a week. The question will be, regardless of critical reception, how it does at the box office, especially in the overseas market that is crucial to gross revenue. Cruise’s fortunes have been on a slow decline, and this might be the year that he goes in steep decline, with another seemingly weak (and also delayed) release scheduled for the early fall. I think that like other Scientology actors – and unlike his recently Academy Award-ed second ex-wife – he’s been neglecting his acting craft, and that his youthful appeal and run of good luck (the MI franchise) may have come to an end.

      EDIT: Add a note about Cruise’s next release, including this interesting analysis:

      ‘American Made’ Is More Important For Tom Cruise Than ‘The Mummy’
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/06/05/american-made-is-more-important-for-tom-cruise-than-the-mummy

  • I_scream_truck

    If Karen De la Carriere is, as has been speculated, the third leg in Marty’s farm milking stool, that’s awfully rich considering that she, as a friend, helped support him financially during lean times.

    (I believe I’m remembering Karen’s comments correctly; please chime in if not.)

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Karen supported Marty financially to the tune of many thousands of dollars at a very difficult time in his life.

      • Ann B Watson

        Plus she is an Angel with a tremendous heart. There is only one Karen. Love You Andrea💛

    • Joe

      I think Karen is seriously the sweetest lady. Him taking financial advantage of her kindness seriously irks me to this day.

  • GoneToPlaid

    I’ll just leave this here
    Jonathan Coulton – Tom cruise crazy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEzaBzVve8

  • Shivani33

    “Three farmers and three sheep hopped onto a troika to go to a cult meeting. But due to overpopulation and tax-evasion, the farmers, sheep and troika were thrown into a volcano. The troika reincarnated as a four wheel-drive ute. The farmers reincarnated as pharmacists. The sheep reincarnated as a delicatessen franchise.”

    “That was almost there, Marty-Mark,” said the producer. “I need more commitment from you and less narrative. Take 46!”

    David Miscavige gestures to the producer. “Get that bastard some Fixodent Plus.”

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Re. today’s article, I am reminded touchingly of Jack and Rose clinging to the detritus of the Titanic. I wonder which one is Rose in this tangled tale of unrequited love?

    • Sherbet

      In this telling, Jack has his hands around Rose’s throat, and she’s about to be tossed off the plank so Jack can float to safety.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Overboarded, and thrice overboarded!

  • TonyOrtega

    Have to admit to being pretty stunned that the publications that watch this site so closely haven’t jumped on 1. public statement by Donna Fiore, 2. Rebecca Minkoff shilling for Scientology, or 3. today’s news about Leah.

    What are they waiting for?

  • flyonthewall

    Marty has only scratched the surface of this “troika”. Who are their paymasters? How high does this conspiracy go? Be careful, Marty. You’re playing a dangerous game

    • Observer

      You know he’s going to take this as a threat, right? More dark, ominous, flatulent muttering shall proceed forth.

      • flyonthewall

        I thought it was a pretty obvious riff on cliche spy movie lines but if he takes it as a threat, that would be quite amusing. Mwhahaha! *twirls mustache*

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      “Marty has only scratched the surface of this “troika””

      Hang on. Could the troika be a Hubbardian head cyst?

    • Shivani33

      That’s Marty Ninja Assassin.

    • GfldedKim

      Very

    • Kim O’Brien

      pretty sure it is George Soros

      • flyonthewall

        I concur. Congrats on the new job btw!

  • xenuYESxenu

    Finally, Mr. Rathbun seems more than ready to go off the deep end and he is telling us so. Thank you, for the warning 😉

  • John McGhee

    Will probably get no upvotes for this, lol, but what the hell; I’m a blunt sonofabitch. Always maintained since I first joined the “ASC” circa 2011 that Marty has never been one of us, not even when he was helping the Underground Bunker. He was always a wrong ‘un; unpleasant and shallow; toxic even. Apart from the proprietor all he ever hung out with were residual koolaid-heads or lrh apologists. The contributors on his blog are freaks, indie auditors and nutjobs who he cannot even bring himself to address by their names, even when they’ve bootlicked and supported him, but rather addressed them collectively as his denizens or minions. So why should his recent stunt come as any surprise; I was dying for him to fuck up as expected and he came through trumps 👍. Gerry Armstrong had his number years ago too. Scum always floats to the top.

    • Sherbet

      I’ll upvote you, not because I know Rathbun any better than you, but because he’s always been a mystery to me (a never-in). I avoided his blog, where I was definitely an outsider.

      I think he’s got “issues,” not just that he’s an SOB.

      • John McGhee

        It’s a miracle!!! 😂 nice one, Sherbmeistress

    • gtsix

      Oh, we know you’re just trolling for upvotes, as that is the only reason anyone is here at the bunker, to troll for clicks. So I’ll give you upvote, Mr. McGhee, if that’s who you really are!

      • you blunt sonofa – (sorry, i’m getting carried away now)

        i’m only letting you borrow this upvote until payday

        • gtsix

          No backsies!

    • you blunt sonofabitch. take this upvote and like it.

      • John McGhee

        😂 I will then; thanks, succulent

    • Baby

      Dear Mr. McGhee..
      Mr. Rathbun asked me to dinner once, but going to Paris with him was a bit much.

      • John McGhee

        And you’d be too much for him, B-bunk

        • Baby

          He would absolutely die from my immaturity.. Cause I don’t understand his big pretentious words.. BleK …

          • John McGhee

            You’d be fine, Baby-bunk; all you’d have to do is just throw in the word, “narrative” every couple of minutes and you’d be elected.

            • Baby

              Got it.. It’s not a word in my vocabulary.. so

              You have a Narrative day ok John? xo

    • PeaceMaker

      John, I think that’s a good description of the dynamic. For a while Rathbun was on the same tack, or at least attacking the same enemies, and people assumed that he was an ally – and were taken aback, even feeling betrayed, when he continued following his own agenda.

      In the same vein, even if he’s not really an ally, it’s worth keeping in mind that he still might be useful to the critical cause again someday. I think, for instance, we’d all like to see him really come clean about what he really did for Scientology, regardless of what his reasons might be for spilling the beans.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      You silver-tongued smooth-talker, you! <3

      • John McGhee

        😂😂😂 i-doll, what are we gonna do witcha

        • Baby

          With her tongue?

          • gtsix

            Say what now?

          • John McGhee

            Now now, Baby, don’t bring it to the gutter 😁

            • gtsix

              Shush you, this getting good!

              Go on Baby, we’re listening.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Aaahahaha! What the flagnog, you crazy baby?! 😛

            • Baby

              I thought I would get a reaction from you..hahahha

    • I’ve always been fascinated by the insight which Marty provides into the character of Scientology ‘higher management’.

      You have to be a nasty piece of work to hold down that job – but how many of the required qualities do people bring to it, and how many are down to their Scientology indoctrination. I suspect that the higher you go in the organisation, the more of it is down to you.

      We didn’t see much of the Inspector General – but we have been able to observe Marty Rathbun quite closely – closely enough to know that he’s not a especially clever nor particularly capable person. That observation probably extends to the likes of Miscavige.

      Their power, such as it is, probably derives from their social situation which they achieved though luck (being in the right place at the right time) and a fundamental ruthlessness.

      • MarcabExpat

        Fantastic analysis, all around.

        You have to be a nasty piece of work to hold down that job – but how many of the required qualities do people bring to it, and how many are down to their Scientology indoctrination.

        Which, IMHO, explains the radically opposite directions in which Marty and Mike have gone since they got out. Marty, who joined as an adult, fit in so well because, well, he fit in so well. He enjoyed it — he said as much. Mike, who was second generation, was thoroughly indoctrinated, but never seemed to really relax and relish his role in the same way. He just thought he needed to do all those things because he was told it was vital to do them. He rose to his rank because he was remarkably capable but also because he was indefatigable and sincere.

        But (to pick up on your well-chosen phrasing) Mike did not have that core of “fundamental ruthlessness.” There is a selflessness there, and a compassion that easily blossomed as the toxic brainwashing was rinsing itself away. That, and a willingness to confront his past rather than turn it into a virtue.

        Mike would never have proudly called himself “a Scientology Warrior.”

        • And Rinder is wise to remain silent on the whole Marty affair. There is nothing Miscavige would like more than to draw him into a manufactured ‘controversy’ and distract both Mike and his readers form the good work done by his blog.

    • AntoniaW

      Ah. People like me who have held back, fearing that the poor guy is being blackmailed, might hear a different voice here. Very interesting and very sad.

    • MarcabExpat

      He hung out with Rinder, though. They were buddies.

      • John McGhee

        Until Mike went koolaid-free. They’ve not spoken in 28 months.

        • MarcabExpat

          Well yeah. But back in the day, they were major support systems for each other. Marty was part of Mike’s wedding.

          • John McGhee

            Yes, and so too was the, now dubbed, ASC a major support system for Marty and look what happened there.

            • MarcabExpat

              I don’t think we’re actually holding opposite opinions — I was just noting that at one point, he did in fact hang out with other exes who are now “clean.” But I guess yeah, they weren’t all the way “clean” at the time.

            • John McGhee

              I’m with you, yes, they were pre-clean

    • Betty

      I never trusted him as far as I could throw.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Rathbunto: Hast ever such rogue been more unfair maligned?

    Youtubus: Nay and nay again! The knife is sharp and wounds.

    Rathbunto: You prance and swirl, never faced the blade as I.

    Youtubus: Yet sit you on my throne, crowned and fed,
    rabble far hence, the ears of friends set open.

    Rathbunto: Fie friends! As well be foes if trust fortune.
    Remembered blood feast takes hold my soul, such sweet!
    For chance be wished mine glory be relived.

    Youtubus: No paper grants your hapless quest, be calm lip smacker.

    Rathbunto: No calm can sooth the tortured heart I fear.
    Nor ease the frown of futures certain judgement.

    • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

      Damn! Move over Shakespear.
      I agree with everything! (even though i have no idea what you just said).

      [I own five Shakespear plays, his sonnets & a few movie adaptions, but the language still makes my brain feel like an over done artichoke. xp]

    • Shivani33

      Adding a touch of Sir Walter Scott. “Oh! What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.” I have a much older brother who is very like Rathbun and who leaves a trail of destruction in his wake, and there is no cure. Some of my earliest memories are of watching my dad struggle to get him to simply tell the truth.

  • Baby

    Again.. will have to get caught up on reading everything.. So behind..
    Love the Post Tony.. OK going out to dinner..shower and find something that’s not on the floor to wear.. xo love baby

    I am a hot mess..I’m not used to running this much… Dang.. It’s like a marathon this week.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/374b39ba347c459b0f02f1a6901e630d99c51a47ea7bc137d1f35eafb8605bed.gif

    • Observer

      You’ve got a tiny little behind.

      • Baby

        OMG…….bawwwwwwwwwwwhahahhahaa.. NO ONE has ever said that to me Obs.. awwwwwwwwwww

        Edit..unless you were talkin bout the rabbit..

        • Observer

          Psst…it’s a wombat

          • Baby

            Bawwwhahhahahhaha… I didn’t think that a rabbit could do the laundry.. but now that it’s a Wombat..it makes so much sense.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      What the hell are you talkin’ ’bout, Baby? You’re forgetting how many of us have actually seen your behind. It’s tiny!

      • Baby

        WTF .. Miss Betty boo.. I sound like I was fishing for compliments.. Gah.. I wasn’t I promise.. but I’m going to edit it out.. ugh… ( Love you)

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Nooo, it really didn’t sound like that, I promise 🙂 But you still have the cutest arse, even in Bobby’s boxers! x

          • Baby

            Oh you.. Jeeze..ha

  • OOkpik

    Little Beau Peep
    Has lost his sheep.
    And now it’s his belief
    That a Troika rules to fleece the fools,
    And other cult covfefe.

    • MarcabExpat

      THIS COMMENT IS THE WINNER

  • FredEX2

    More of Miss Lovely enjoying the day. Hey OSA! Over here🙋Now you see me…now you don’t!
    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/554f3cdf1fc2c300ea3b88e695b6a1f3e6fa39f7e08342064b12da92c03e15d6.jpg

  • Quick empathy

    Well Marty is getting the response he wanted to his video…… attention. He is a petty little attention hoe. Nobody pays attention to me anymore! Waaaa. Disappear, care for your family and STFU. Comments off on your website. Coward. Oh and I looked up how to tell if someone is lying. One of the things is throat clearing or swallowing. Dryness of the mouth and throat. Hmmmm. Maybe after he drinks some water he can try telling the truth. Naaaa, not possible. It’s not comfortable for him.

    • HTC

      hell with water I think he’s drinking the koolaid.

  • Baby

    OK leaving.. Has anyone thought of this.. if so.. I apologize.
    OSA … heads up…

    Kathy Griffin Photo taken by Shock Artistic Photographer Tyler Shields.. He is a Scientologist.

    Kathy has ridiculed and criticized Scientology to millions of people via her Televised Comic Specials/ Shows so she’s an SP ..

    Tyler is not supposed to acknowledge her. But he worked with her on the photoshoot. Doesn’t that warrant a punishment? If not OSA you are NOT following Policy right? RIGHT?

    • FredEX2

      I suspected as much Baby. Mentioned before that Kathy has mocked and parodied Scientology a number of times in her comedy shows…and I know having been ‘on the dark side’ temporarily…that they do not like her…and leading her down a path of self destruction is one of their tactics when trying to destroy an ‘enemy’. Encouraging her to do that photo shoot would be an ultimate feather in his cap.

      However, it will backfire…afterall he agreed to take the photo. No one ‘made him do it’ …

      • Baby

        Either way if called on the carpet Freddie.. he may take Credit for it..

    • PeaceMaker

      This brings to mind a question that I’m not sure you’re asking – but am not sure has been asked.

      Did the scientologist photographer suggest or at least encourage the photograph that has now gotten SP Kathy Griffin in hot water? That almost sounds like a classic OSA op….

      • Baby

        Peace.. I just answered below to FredEx that either way if called in Shields would use it as a Get out of Jail card..

    • MarcabExpat

      BUT, Baby… if he’s a Scientologist and she’s an SP, could this not be a very deep dead-agenting game? hmmm? Hmmm? HMMM?

      • Baby

        Oh we have such RUETHless Bunkerues.. I don’t think Kathy or Tyler thought there would be such backlash Marcab..

  • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

    I have refrained from commenting on Marty for a few months, but since his video I feel I need to comment.
    Marty was one of my husband Gary’s best friends in the SO before he became anything in the SO and he was a nice guy back then. We have not seen him since 82. He is also my EX- Brother-in-Law – he married one of my sisters and then they got divorced. That sister is still in at Int/Gold. I wanted to give Marty the benefit of the doubt, but I no longer can.
    Marty – what has happened to you? You now have your own son, could you even imagine that one day he may disconnect you? Do you even know what that is like? But not only that – I almost lost 2 sons and thankfully got one out. Can you imagine living 23 years with your beloved son, loving him, nurturing him, giving him a good life, going to all his sports games, supporting him in everything – and then he walks away from you? Gary and I reached out to you a couple of years ago for help as we were on the brink of losing 2 sons and not only that – my side of the family had disconnected from us – even though we were doing everything we could to be in good books with the church so that this did not happen – they all disconnected from us while we were onlines at AOLA – all on orders from the top – I have the proof in emails…….I am doing what I can to fight back. I am not going to lie down quietly and just “accept” this – my son is too important to me. We have been a happy family…….and hopefully he will one day come back to us.
    I can understand that one may need to walk away from the “fight” ESPECIALLY if you have nothing in it for you – i.e. no family who has disconnected from you – so why don’t you do that – just walk away quietly, but NO, you have to pull some weird “make-wrong” on all of us who have been suffering due to many reasons all by the church and their tactics. What the hell is wrong with you? I am so disappointed in you. You had the chance to be a big hero in all of our eyes, and you were on your way to being that, but no you decided to fight us instead, and worse call us a cult….it is so laughable and ridiculous.
    I made my own decision to talk out. No-one coerced me, no-one offered me money, nada…….all on my own and I am happy I am doing it as the church is doing harm to others. More harm than good. Scn is despicable and needs to be brought down.
    How will history view you Marty?

  • nottrue
    • Observer

      Go Mark!

      I sure wish he’d come to HowdyCon.

    • pluvo

      Basically she is right. E.g. Izzy and Mary Anne Chait are Jewish. And they are OT8. They don’t stop being Jewish… ! But that they can’t do “other practices” is true too. She doesn’t say that and maybe doesn’t know it.

      • Quick empathy

        There is no way that they can be true Jewish followers that go to Temple and observe the holidays and rules of the Jewish faith and be a scientologist. The beliefs in scientology and Judism are in opposition. You can’t believe both.

        • pluvo

          You are right. But fact is they are still Jewish. We are not disagreeing. My point is about the slippery Scio PR.
          E.g. I know of a wedding of two Sea Org members in a Catholic church in Mexico. It was a big PR action.

          • Quick empathy

            I see what you are saying. Scientology so wants to decieve people that they can’t even come out and stand up for what they believe. If you can be any religion and still be into scientology then scientology is a club and not a religion. As for the Catholic wedding of the two Sea Org members….. somebody’s Catholic grandma is rolling over in her grave!

    • Gus Cox

      Damn right, Mark Foster.

  • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

    I have made a long comment about Marty but it keeps getting kicked out as “reported as spam”….how weird is that? I have posted it twice now and it disappears……….

    • gtsix

      I saw this…. and there were no links in it or anything. Have you tried making smaller paragraphs. It is a wonderful post, and I tried to say this in response:

      Hey Rathbun: this is our WHY

      eta: spelling

    • GfldedKim

      Very odd..I tried responding and it would not allow me to..

    • nottrue

      It was a really great comment..I was the 1st one to upvote it. I just checked and it is gone. It is not even in your profile

    • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

      It seems all right on my end. i can see both posts, 45 minutes ago & 10 minutes ago.

      • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

        Thanks. That is so weird. Did you refresh your page and if so, is it still there?

        • Click on your icon at the top left of the comments page and you will see a list of all the comments you have made, so can confirm it’s there (it is for me).

          You can also set Discus to show ‘latest’ posts – when you have it on ‘Best’ (top right of the same page) a new post (which has no upvotes) can go to the bottom of the pile when you refresh – so it seems to have disappeared.

          • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

            Yes they are there but marked as “detected as spam”. I also have it set to latest comments.

            • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

              Both of the comments I posted are under my profile but marked as spam, but not showing up on here.

            • nottrue

              They are gone and it is not right.. It was a great comment

            • Oops… replied to wrong comment – see above.

            • The only reasons I can think of is that Disqus has detected too many links, or certain keywords in your comments that make it think they are spam.

              If your comments were manually flagged by a visitor (which sometimes happens when you touch a nerve) they would be marked as inappropriate – but we would have the option to click a link and read them anyway.

              The administrator can look at the comments marked as Spam and tell the system that they are not, at which time they will reappear. So, if you are sure that they are in the Spam queue, it’s down to our proprietor to fish them out and assure Disqus they are legit – maybe you should email him.

        • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

          No problem. I had refreshed a couple of times and it was still there, but, after i saw your reply i went to refresh again, accidently put my laptop in airplane mode, which shut the wifi off, turned the Bunker into ‘page not found’, and after i’d fixed everything and checked again, both posts were gone. So gawd knows what happened!?

    • GfldedKim

      I do not see it anymore. It was a wonderful comment. ❤

      • Robert Eckert

        You can click on her name to bring up her profile, which is open, and see the comment there.

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      I saw your post too and it was gone after I refreshed.
      I tried to make a copy of it. I think it was this post:
      Quote:
      I have refrained from commenting on Marty for a few months, but since his video I feel I need to comment.
      Marty was one of my husband Gary’s best friends in the SO before he became anything in the SO and he was a nice guy back then. We have not seen him since 82. He is also my EX- Brother-in-Law – he married one of my sisters and then they got divorced. That sister is still in at Int/Gold. I wanted to give Marty the benefit of the doubt, but I no longer can.
      Marty – what has happened to you? You now have your own son, could you even imagine that one day he may disconnect you? Do you even know what that is like? But not only that – I almost lost 2 sons and thankfully got one out. Can you imagine living 23 years with your beloved son, loving him, nurturing him, giving him a good life, going to all his sports games, supporting him in everything – and then he walks away from you? Gary and I reached out to you a couple of years ago for help as we were on the brink of losing 2 sons and not only that – my side of the family had disconnected from us – even though we were doing everything we could to be in good books with the church so that this did not happen – they all disconnected from us while we were onlines at AOLA – all on orders from the top – I have the proof in emails…….I am doing what I can to fight back. I am not going to lie down quietly and just “accept” this – my son is too important to me. We have been a happy family…….and hopefully he will one day come back to us.
      I can understand that one may need to walk away from the “fight” ESPECIALLY if you have nothing in it for you – i.e. no family who has disconnected from you – so why don’t you do that – just walk away quietly, but NO, you have to pull some weird “make-wrong” on all of us who have been suffering due to many reasons all by the church and their tactics. What the hell is wrong with you? I am so disappointed in you. You had the chance to be a big hero in all of our eyes, and you were on your way to being that, but no you decided to fight us instead, and worse call us a cult….it is so laughable and ridiculous.
      I made my own decision to talk out. No-one coerced me, no-one offered me money, nada…….all on my own and I am happy I am doing it as the church is doing harm to others. More harm than good. Scn is despicable and needs to be brought down.
      How will history view you Marty?
      Unquote

      • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

        Thanks Lousy, that is it! Thanks for doing that.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Yes, I could see it also. Until I refreshed. Then gone. I’m happy you copied it. It’s worth saving.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Discus doesn’t like long comments and often does odd stupid things with them.

  • FredEX2
    • OOkpik

      I thought it was a Scientology fund-raiser as I skimmed by.
      These are fun, Fred. Hope you and Miss Lovely are having a great time. <3

      • FredEX2

        Yes we are! And people have asked about the book…so of course I tell them just a little and direct them to Tony’s website where they can get one too…😊

        Hmmmm…thought I spotted a PI ….could be imagining it…I am in Fantasy land right now. LOL

  • Cheap & Nothing Wasted

    William Mapother should play his cousin.
    There is after all an amazing similarity in looks!

  • O/T: Billy Sheehan comments on Chris Cornell’s passing and I have to say I don’t disagree. I’m actually most surprised by the part I made bold

    “When you see a warning on a pharmaceutical that says, as a side effect, ideations of murder and suicide, I would think twice before… I just can’t believe that stuff is on the market, and there’s gotta be a better way,” he continued. “I’m not sure what that better way is, but we’ve got an amazing world with a lot of intelligent people and incredible science, there’s gotta be a better way than these particular substances, which are just so dangerous. You accidentally forget and have a drink on top of it and you could die. And more people die now from pharmaceutical drugs, taken according to the directions, prescribed lawfully and legally, than traffic accidents. An amazing statistic.”

    *gasp*

    http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/billy-sheehan-blames-pharmaceutical-industry-for-chris-cornells-death-its-a-terrible-unnecessary-loss.html#h1EQqlCzcokVVtm8.99

    • flyonthewall

      could just be that it’s enough for him to plant a seed of doubt in people’s minds about pharmaceutical co’s and drugs. He doesn’t have to come right out and shill for Scientology but just getting that doubt in people’s minds and making them receptive to something else might be enough for him

      • valid point, but in the past, iirc, he was never shy about openly praising the tech, Truth About Drugs, and was in the Narconon All-Stars

        probably a nothing burger but after all the publicity the church tried drumming up about “how they can help” literally the day after Chris passed i’m just happy to see that he’s “not sure what that better way is”

      • fwiw, metalheads can be idiots but we’re also pretty smart sometimes … (i only wiped the comment in the middle because it was irrelevant to this topic) you’ll notice a fairly impressive amount of upward thumbs at the site linked. most “good comments” only get a few:
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3372ae8830d8be45b35e9ddd6a8cbaafc13043a55e3382273d1854d1d0fed1fe.png

        eti: coincidentally, these two guys are that site’s fly and Jimmy.

        • flyonthewall

          Nice! That’s very comforting

  • Orglodyte
    • April

      Damn. He’s hot.

    • I_scream_truck

      Just for fun, all the roles should go to ex-Scientologists! I don’t care if they can’t act.

  • Jimmy3
  • Faux Gibbler

    I actually defended Marty for the way Louis treated him. I didn’t think it was fair b/c lots of Scientoligists who blew were high ranking members and when that’s all you know… plus as Leah said, “you think you are doing the right thing”
    Boy do I regret it now!

  • flyonthewall

    No I ain’t gonna work on Tony’s farm no more

    • Jimmy3

      No more picking up hoes here?

    • John McGhee
    • Observer

      Like you ever worked any.

      • flyonthewall

        I worked on a baby farm. That counts. I harvested 4 babies and then I quit. I said I said, this is bullshit man! And I quit and that’s the story of when I worked on a baby farm

        • Observer

          Now you just play with Legos.

  • Kim O’Brien

    You guys are not going to believe this but Tony Ortega’s blog just helped me land a job . During lunch with the owner and a couple of other people – talk turned to politics and our current shit show of a president . That led into a talk about tax free status for churches .

    The owner said “ I can’t believe that even Scientology gets included in that , they are a scam …and the way they got tax free status was totally shady .“

    I had just taken a sip of water and did one of those OMG , half choke on the water and laugh thing . She then got this odd look on her face and asked me if i was a Scientologist …and since i have NO FILTER ( ugh ) …I looked at her and said “ Are you crazy ? “ ..and we cracked up . I then asked her

    “ Do you know who Tony Ortega is ? Do you read his blog ? ” She said yes . I told her i was the woman planning HowdyCon and that is why i wont be able to work June 21,22,23.

    I got the job

    • Jimmy3

      Congrats. This blog has only ever gotten me fired from my weed route.

      • Kim O’Brien

        it’s all about time management Jimmy 😉

    • Observer

      Congratulations!

      • Kim O’Brien

        i think it is going to be great . No way that random thing happens for no reason 🙂

        • Philbyification

          It’s a Small World After All! Congrats Kim. “The Universe is the Great Leveler”! 😀

    • Sherbet

      Excellent! Will you have to relocate?

    • Marshall

      Wow – that’s a pretty powerful cult we have here!

      Congratulations

      • Kim O’Brien

        does that make me a farmer ? LOL

        • Marshall

          You could be inching up on Marty’s list!

          • Kim O’Brien

            good to know he is still a douche canoe . god ….i thought he went away . He is like herpes

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      Great! Congrats, Kim!

    • Night Nurse

      Best of luck to you on your new job!

      • Kim O’Brien

        🙂 thank you –

    • John McGhee

      congratulations, this ASC can work like a fraternal organisation then.

      • Sherbet

        Yes, I’m working on the secret handshake and salute. But it will be so secret, I won’t be able to share it with the rest of the ASC.

      • Kim O’Brien

        it was so random . I really liked her already , but that was just too awesome . I am at the right place

        • John McGhee

          Definitely at the right place; it can be a lunchtime conversation topic with no lead-up 🙂

    • Puget Buckeye

      That is just about the coolest thing ever. It just goes to show what a person can “pull in” when they belong to the right cult! Good for you!

    • Glen

      Cool story, sis. Congrats.

    • TexasBroad

      I love this story so much!!!
      Congratulations KIM – that’s wonderful!!!!

      • Kim O’Brien

        i actually texted Tony . Like a dork LOL

    • nottrue

      Do you have to move to NYC now

      • Kim O’Brien

        nope . I will work from my home office in Denver

        • nottrue

          Perfect

    • gtsix

      Congratulations!

      Imma get A HowdyCondean to buy you a drink from me.

    • Effing epic! Congrats!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Atta girl, Kim!!

    • GfldedKim

      Wonderful news. Good for you!

    • JJ

      It’s who ya know!

    • Ann B Watson

      Congratulations Kim. To you and Tony both. HowdyCon sounds like such a great mix of some of the best bunch of posters I have met on my journey. Y’all are lightning fast and you make me laugh and cry and just be me. I love that. With all in spirit in Denver🌅

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Congratulations, Kim–that’s great news 🙂

  • Dale

    Marty can’t seem to outgrow the long ingrained habit of explaining the world to people. Stop treating people like morons Marty.

    • Observer

      He’s the ultimate mansplainer. He doesn’t limit himself to mansplaining to women; men, children, pets, small woodland creatures…he mansplains to them all.

      • Puget Buckeye

        But my problem is even after he mansplains, I don’t understand his mansplainations!

        • Observer

          That’s because you’re not him, and therefore incapable of comprehending his vast wisdom.

          • Puget Buckeye

            I am a wog.

  • J. Swift

    Karen and I have a very good friend named LA Citizen. He sent us over some recent photos of IJC Mike Ellis. In this first photo, IJC is seen riding an electric-powered bicycle. That electric motor helps IJC when he needs that extra boost to propel his 315 pound ecclesiastical carcass up the very slight inclines around PAC Base.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef2ed50f97bee5eaae27b0513074333b860a6f381d34590ccbc09d8e416e104d.png

    • John McGhee

      He is getting a tad more than rice and beans then. Magic beans perhaps

      • Observer

        I can’t stop snickering at this

      • Marshall

        I really have NO business making fun of anyone’s weight but he really does look ridiculous!

        • John McGhee

          Oh same as you; I’ve no issue with people’s weight, but I am taken aback when it’s a scientologist especially when the freaks told me I needed auditing just because I found big women attractive. Hypocrites

          • daisy

            Hey sailor .

            • John McGhee

              Hi Daisy

            • Kitz

              Damn… You got here first… 😉

      • Betty

        I would hate to be riding behind him then.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      ^^^This being your “last terminal” should be enough reason to blow today UTR’s/Still-ins. This guy is who decides your fate?

      Oh honey……No. :/

    • ze moo

      He must at cause over MEST, he doesn’t topple over and crack his head.

    • daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, this is recent, so he’s still alive? impressive. i swear i heard a gasping wheeze as the pic opened.

      #NobodyWalksInL.A.
      #succulentduckisaterribleperson

      • J. Swift

        very recent….

    • J. Swift

      Another photo from LA Citizen. Your only terminal is this toadying old bootlicker who does whatever OSA or Miscavige tells him to do.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91af525210ca7d30029f7ce2bad7648729efd62af749d22057d60b3b847c20c3.png

    • Len Zinberg

      It’s totally surreal that this is the person Scientologists vest with the power of determining which families remain intact, and which are torn apart. I sure hope he remembered to bring his defibrillator, along with his lunch.

    • Lionel Drinkwater

      Having El Gordo as the IJC just doesn’t cut it. Scientology should hire a jaunty and svelte British fellow who wears glasses and a bowler hat to play the IJC:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b89593593d5e724081e3b62b372e0336ac23f11af362cce6ba174344049aeba9.jpg

  • lars hanson

    Dale…… YOU nailed it! He’s got that really arrogant way about him doesn’t he? Where he’s going to explain to everybody how the world works!! One minute he saying it’s all a scam and then the next minute he saying that it’s legit….. can’t have it both ways Marty…… still lying aren’t ya?

  • lars hanson

    by the way Marty…. if you look really hard at the video you’re in….. you can see the strings being pulled by the 4’13 “little dictator”! Nice try Marty!!

    • Gus Cox

      I wonder if he’s getting paid a lot of money. What settlement?? There’s no settlement for dropping Mosey’s suit!! We’re just paying him big bux to do some vids for us, totally unrelated!!!

  • nottrue

    Here would be the perfect DM but he is not an actor.. He is or was a disney executive.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80318c4db1cf3115cdea862ca7ee368263c7581f694d3879dde6c988eefd3edd.jpg

    • Observer

      Ricky something. I can never remember his last name.

    • ze moo

      The very definition of a shit eating grin.

  • Glen

    I just can’t bring myself to watch the Marty video. And on other filmic fronts, The Mummy with TC is set to launch on Friday in movie theaters. The movie reviewers were able to see it in advance and a lot of reviews have come out today. I’m going to divide this post up in several parts to give a brief sampling of the reviews.

    My favorite one is the one from The Guardian that Andrea posted this morning:

    “Be afraid, for here it is … again … emerging waxily from the darkness. This disturbing figure must surely be thousands of years old by now, a princeling worshipped as a god but entombed in his own riches and status; remarkably well preserved. It is Tom Cruise.” —Peter Bradshaw, The Guardian

  • Glen

    Some snippets of film reviews of The Mummy:

    “It will be argued that this one was made not for the critics but for the fans. Which is no doubt true. Every con game is played with suckers in mind.” —-A.O. Scott, NY Times

    “The Mummy does what it’s supposed to do with little originality and almost no life.”
    —-Daniel Eagan, Film Journal International

    “Falls apart at the end, rattling its bones through a series of shockingly violent clashes with Ahmanet. Ultimately, despite her awesome powers, this goddess is reduced to participating in a love triangle with mere mortals. How pedestrian.” —Katie Walsh, Tribune News Service

    “The Mummy is, in so many ways, everything that is wrong with the IP era of film. So much so, that it is a shocking experience.” —David Poland, Movie City News

    “A messy and muddled product lacking even the carefree spirit of the Brendan Fraser Mummy trilogy.” —-Jack Coyle, Associated Press

  • Stephen Hutcheon

    Perhaps the Church has something big on Marty, that Marty would be embarrassed about it or he could get into trouble for? ‘Perhaps’ he has recently been reminded of it, hence his change of face – obviously, it goes with out saying this is a wild guess
    While on wild guesses, and just for thought, how do we know that David did not kill Shelley in one off his well documented fits of rage…accidentally of course…but murder is murder…oh and the way to happiness says you can not do that.
    And yes OSA I know you are reading this too…hello to you!…I am back…want to chat?..or even better come and see me in person.

    • ze moo

      Trying to guess what hold, if any, Miscavage has over Marty is an exercise in futility. Their association was long and they could have committed every crime in the book. What crime could Marty have done that lets Miscavage off the hook and has no statute of limitations?

      • chukicita

        They might need a spreadsheet.

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      Oh, I highly doubt that the cherch could motivate Marty via fear. But I think it could via offering him power.

      • Puget Buckeye

        And I think power is something that Marty values very much. I would watch him in videos when he would talk about his position in the church and the things he had done. He would come across as arrogant or proud. But not proud of what he had done. He was proud of the responsibility he had, the position he was in, the difficulty of the tasks he was able to accomplish.

        • Anonymous Confused Person

          And, I would wager, proud of the deferential treatment he received when he was in a position of power. The problem was that not enough people deferred to him as the new “Marty Luther” of whatever it was he was trying to be. If your goal is to be worshipped, why not go back to people who will (at least pretend to) worship you?

          • Puget Buckeye

            And you would win that wager.

  • Glen

    More reviews:

    “Universal is counting on “The Mummy” and its successors to make it a competitor with Disney/Marvel and Warner Bros./DC and their ever-expanding world of comic-book-based characters. Guys, you might want to have a backup plan.” —-Cary Darling, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

    “…there are quite a few laughs to be had, some of which are definitely intentional.”
    —-Luke Y. Thompson, Cinema Runner

    This movie’s a mess. —=Bill Goodykoontz, Arizona Republic

    “This Mummy plays like a wan assemblage of underdeveloped concepts.” —-Bilge Ebiri, Village Voice

    “A corporate initiative masquerading as entertainment. They should have kept this under wraps.”
    —-Jordan Hoffman, Popular Mechanics

    “The Mummy tries a fresh spin on the classic monster with a gender-swapped villain and Dark Universe connections but winds up a stale action reboot.” —-Molly Freeman, ScreenRant

    “It’s tonally unsure of itself, the plot is littered with gaping story holes, and the general stupidity on display undercuts the pivotal efficiency required to make blockbuster movies of this kind hum and spin their wheels.”
    —-Vincent Mancini, FilmDrunk

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      That’s all because there was no scene where he was hanging on to a plane in the air.

    • JJ

      Glimmer of hope in the air, the CoS itself has purchased the rights to Village of the Dammed in which Mr. Cruise will star surrounded by a lifelike cast of fellow Scientologists. Filming will begin in April on location in Gold.

      • Glen

        And SUMP will spring to life for the final edit.

  • Glen

    Sorry to take up so much bandwidth. This is the last batch. I didn’t include the few lukewarm reviews and I don’t think there was much in the way of positive reviews. It has achieved a dismal 27% on Rotten Tomatoes so far.

    “This latest remake or reboot (does anyone truly know the difference?) feels less alive than undead.” —-Jake Wilson, The Age (Australia)

    “This big budget action adventure lumbers into cinemas and begs to be put out of its torment. Long before it ended, so did I.” —-Chris Hunneysett, Daily Mirror (UK)

    “This may be Tom Cruise’s worst starring vehicle ever…” —-Scott Mendelson, Forbes

    “It’s hard to muster anything like desire for another Dark Universe flick after seeing this limp, thrill-free debut.” —-John DeFore, Hollywood Reporter

    “The Mummy” is a dated, empirically dismal, laughable excuse to kick off a franchise, and it should have remained entombed.” —-Rodrigo Perez, The Playlist

    “The Mummy is a literal-minded, bumptious monster mash of a movie. It keeps throwing things at you, and the more you learn about the ersatz intricacy of its “universe,” the less compelling it becomes.”—-Owen Gleiberman, Variety

    “Even Tom Cruise cannot outrun this movie’s problems.” —-Matt Singer, Screen Crush

    “The Mummy is defiantly not ‘about’ anything other than promoting its own franchise, and if that’s all this series has to offer, why would we want to see any more of it?” —-William Bibbiani, Crave Online

    “An out-of-the-gate stumble that doesn’t even have the sense to sport its own so-bad-it’s-fun personality, barely qualifying as horror, adventure, fantasy, thriller, or even Tom Cruise vehicle.”
    —-Robert Abele, The Wrap

    “Obviously the worst movie that Tom Cruise has ever made.” —-David Ehrlich, indieWire

    “A depressing watch, and not only because it’s an awkward, misshapen mess. It’s also because it finds the last classic movie star giving up and giving in.” —-Matt Prigge, Metro

    “As a story to speak to our hearts and minds, it’s an utter failure, and perhaps so too even as a disposable corporate product.”—-Peter Canaves, Groucho Reviews

    “Unlike the old movies that supposedly inspired it, “The Mummy” has no atmosphere, no menace, no romance.” —-Newark Star-Ledger

  • nottrue
  • outraged

    Alright! OMG!!! Woot Woot!!!!

    The Scientology MOVIE!!!! This is AMAZING!!!!!

    Who will play DAvid fucking Miscavige?

    Leah, You Are Our Savior!!♡♡

    • Jimmy3

      And what is the crate budget for a Lifetime movie?

      • outraged

        Very little. Shot inside one living room.
        Furnishings all taupe.

  • Silence of the Clams

    Oh Marty…..

    How utterly embarrassing for you. Poor guy just couldn’t bring himself to sign the divorce papers. The new duds and Miscaviges post production efforts havent helped either. You are swimming in a sea of your own filth at this point. Sadly, your wife gets to see your dark side now.

    • chukicita

      I think now she knows why he didn’t want her to Google him.

      • GfldedKim

        Kinda hope she wakes up and gets out with the precious baby…

  • Snippy_X
    • Chee Chalker

      I’d rather be a sheep than a clam

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Why am I hearing Simon and Garfunkel all of a sudden?

  • Chee Chalker

    Well one thing we know…..if Marty is indeed back in the fold, it means Miscavige was wetting his pants.
    He wet his pants about Mosey Rathbun’s case and now he’s wetting them some more with Season 2 coming up.

    The best the Co$ can do is a non Scientology lawyer with dry eyes and a critic who has publically called out David Miscavige for 10 years and admitted Scientology was a waste of time.

    And remember – those are its supporters

  • Observer
    • Jimmy3

      Why?

    • outraged

      that is so gross.

      • flyonthewall

        that child’s physical deformity is the cause of a lot of pain to the parents and calling him gross doesn’t help anything.

        • GrangerFX

          He should have read the license agreement.

          • Philbyification

            Cuddlefish? LOLOL

        • Jimmy3

          The More You Know
          The More You Grow
          Into a giant, hideous caterbaby

          • flyonthewall

            yuk it up, fun boy. I hope when you have children, none of them are born with revoltingly hilarious deformities

            • Jimmy3

              Thank you. That’s gotta be the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me.

        • outraged

          sue me.

      • Suzy

        He will morph into a beautiful butterfly one day

        • outraged

          hahahahaha

    • Kari Harris

      Is that a parody of that human centipede movie?

    • Observer

      If you’re wondering, that’s what happens when a baby crawls in front of you as you’re taking a panorama shot. (not my pic)

      • (shhhhhhhhucks … we were just getting warmed up)

      • Jimmy3

        Is that how you will justify your sickening “research” at your capital trial? You know that baby will testify against you.

        • Observer

          I don’t gotta justify nothin’, buzzkill.

          • Jimmy3

            I kill buzzes to enhance my own. It’s selfish, I know.

            • Observer

              Jerk!

        • daisy

          His parents have invoked their executive priviledge

  • MickeyBoy

    Thinking outloud regarding the current state of affairs on Mr. Rathbun – I wonder if Scientology found and/or fabricated some dirt on Monique Rathbun during the lawsuit and presented it to the Rathbuns in the form of “drop the lawsuit/ take this payoff/ do a little schill for us or we’ll be forced to bring out the dirt during the trial”. Maybe the information could have affected the outcome of the trial, been embarrassing, and/or hindered an adoption process. That would explain some of the sudden turn of events for Mr. Rathbun. No evidence on my part, just speculation. Congratulations to Leah, Mike, and Tony on the impact that you all are having on this organization!!

  • LeakLurkLol

    OT 9 – The Troika Revealed
    Tony Ortega, Mike Rinder and Leader of the ASC, Jeb Burton
    It’s always worse than you think

    • Observer

      😂😂😂

    • XD

    • salin

      Welcome to the comments section, LeakLurkLol. Biggest belly laugh of the day per the declared ASC Leader. To capture that – I am guessing that you have been reading the comments section at the UB for some time.

  • GrangerFX
  • daisy

    Ok I have waited a long day holding my exploding head. WTF is happening in your silly silly country.There I am good now.

    • Fuckifiknow

    • JJ

      We’re being replaced by pod people…Soon even we won’t know the difference.

    • flyonthewall

      we are just bringing about the Apocalypse, which everyone secretly in their heart of hearts wants. You’re welcome

      • Jimmy3

        But first the Apocalypse has to be fully deregulated.

    • Jimmy3

      We’ll know when all the best and brightest meet for the Make America Grate Again Convfeferance

  • flyonthewall
    • daisy

      Oh honey you are my screen saver. One day is here.

    • Jimmy3

      Haven’t seen it yet but I heard there’s chicks

      • flyonthewall

        *nods* hot ones too. I’m going this weekend, try to stop me

        • Jimmy3

          I tried. Did it work?

          • Ooooh. MESTfail.

          • flyonthewall

            i’ll let you know

    • chukicita

      I already do, fly.

      • flyonthewall

        Awww, and I thought you just had something in your eye

        • chukicita

          well, there’s that.

  • FredEX2

    Life can be a jungle…and no one knows that better than “The Unbreakable Miss Lovely”…~after being Fair Gamed for years…she has nothing left to fear…even when confronted by a charging bull elephant…during the Jungle ride at Disneyland…;)
    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b47c60a41a9ca5f1b13b12ec851eaddf851aca01dd7c47611da67d1c6156d090.jpg

    • downtherabbithole

      Nice to see you enjoying yourself. Wishing you happy days.

    • salin

      I am so enjoying the combo fun of seeing the cool things you are seeing/doing and the smiles brought by TUML hitting all these cool places. More, please!

      • FredEX2

        …😘

    • Glen

      Thanks for the reporting. I feel like a kid again going to Disneyland for the first time.

  • Suzy

    Did I miss something – who is filming this? Who is Marty talking to? And did he say there is a mimosa problem? PS . BaaaaaaaH

    • The Head of Atheism makes a mean Mimosa. Cristal and fresh squeezed schadenfreude.

      • daisy

        OOOhh make me one please these pretzels and snark are making me thirsty

  • Suzy

    My take on this is that Marty is having a little tantrum that he is not regarded as the Top Authority

    • chukicita

      Everything’s a hierarchy.

  • May be Mark Rathbun is not unemployable after all. I hope I’m wrong in my sarcasm, but.. Sort by Best and think.

    Happy for Leah and all her work. Thank you.

    • salin

      I keep trying to hold ‘generous’ interpretations for his public statements (blog/now videos), but it is getting harder to do – reaching the point to move from ‘hard’ to ‘arduous.’

      Leah’s news has gotten suppressed in other conversation today. Should declare Marty (and his video) a SP to the ASC? Oh, there is no policy, no organizational arm to enforce. Heck there has been dissent of opinion expressed here today. The Troika is failing in their effective cult administration.

      Leah’s trajectory (season two : Aftermath; and tv movie of Trouble Maker) has the potential to get so much more attention and awareness about Scientology – and of other controlling destructive groups. Standing, applauding the potential, flicking my bic, and hoping for many encore performances.

    • mockingbird

      He is unenjoyable though.

  • Anna

    If you freeze the video when Marty’s hands are in the air his nails are perfectly mannicured! My nails have never looked as good! As an aside, many medications can cause dry mouth, uncontrolled swallowing and other involentary movements. Not pointing fingers, but antipsychotics are one class of drugs that have this
    type of side effect. If I were in his situation-I would drug myself into oblivion.
    For his child’s sake, I do hope he can make peace with his whole life narritive (good and bad) and concentrate on the two best things he has done: marry Mosey and have his beautiful son. Anything else in his life should take a big back seat to his family’s welfare. He needs to get out of his head!! Ann

    • daisy

      I like a lot of this post , but there are too many reasons other than drugs for a dry mouth . P.S. I know you are just speculating like all of us. I just want to correct the record for other readers.

      • Anna

        I agree-I was stretching it. As an aside, I am a big proponent of mental health services and I hope ate to see someone suffer. Marty’s erratic behavior has been troubling for a long time. Now with a child under his care, he especially needs support. He just doesn’t want to admit he has lost the plot! Daisy, thank you for the balanced comment!

        • daisy

          The mental health abuses Sci inflicts on its members is a big reason for many of us to be here. I have no opinion about the nails as a friend recently was aghast that I had never had a manicure.

    • Quick empathy

      Marty on antipsychotics. I wish it was as simple as that. If he is on antipsychotics he needs to go back to the doctor and have his meds adjusted.

    • Vaquera

      Dry mouth is also caused by nerves in anticipation of being on camera. Cue Marco Rubio.

  • Liberated

    This is completely o/t…I just returned from a birthday party for my little boy – except he’s not a little boy anymore.

    It was a cookout at his home – and as I admire all his wonderful friends…I say to myself – no matter how hard it has been…I did something right.
    He has exactly the kind of life I wanted him to have, I made sure he had a great education, he has a four year degree from a good university – got a good job straight out of school.
    He married a wonderful girl and they have a beautiful home and are happy.

    His birthday is actually tomorrow – but he is going to Chicago and hanging with friends, going to a Cubs game at Wrigley Field, going sailing on Lake Michigan and having a great time.

    Now, if I had listened to those idiots at Delphi….they said ” home school your kid “…which I took in one ear and let out the other. I didn’t listen to one thing they said…and I knew I was right.

    To hell with Scientology…they will destroy your life…they know it and they love it !

    • chukicita

      I’m glad you listened to yourself. I bet your boy is, too.

      Except we have to have a talk about the Cubs…

      • Liberated

        Yo, girl…ya got a problem with da Cubs ?

        • chukicita

          born a Sox fan is all…

      • Chee Chalker

        You must be part of the ACC
        Anti Cubs Cult

        • Liberated

          That’s exactly what I was thinking.

        • chukicita

          Does the North side have a baseball team?

          • Chee Chalker

            Cubs are the North Side team and he White Sox are on the South Side
            And occasionally one lives with traitors who live on the north side yet root for the wrong team

    • PerpetualOutflow

      In addition to being a loving parent, you gave him the priceless and lasting gift of a great education. Congratulations to you for your strength in resisting their pressure and ill advised suggestions on his future!

      • Liberated

        Thank you love.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Your sacrifices paid off big time Mom!

    • daisy

      I cannot imagine the joy a parent must get knowing that you have raised a happy child. Good for you Libs, for knowing that .

      • Liberated

        Sometimes I feel like such a loser… but I had a great kid…and that makes everything ok.

        • daisy

          Any body that cares about other people are not losers.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Make no mistake about it–those are not the actions of a loser. Quite the contrary. We all make mistakes. Focus on the fact that when it came to what was most important, your vision was clear, your judgement was sound, and you did not waver.

        • Chee Chalker

          That’s the most important thing.

    • Glen

      Living right, parenting right….what a good thing.

    • salin

      Mom? Check. Prioritizing nurturing child to success/independence? Check. Despite the Co$ and money draining experience – you hit the high marks for your son. Admirable!

      • Liberated

        Merci – my dear !

    • Chee Chalker

      I can vouch that he will have a great time at the Cubs game! It supposed to be warm tomorrow, so the beer will taste extra good!

      • Liberated

        You know what..he has never had a bad time at Wrigley Field.

    • OOkpik

      Congratulations, Lib, for being the the wind beneath his wings and a very Happy Birthday to your beloved son. Well done to both of you. <3 <3

  • Andrew Robertson

    Mr Rathbun’s latest blog entry is now allowing comments!

    Andrew

    • Quick empathy

      Waaaa? I KNEW he was reading the Bunker!!!!! Marty you stinky lurker.

    • Jimmy3

      Can’t be baaaaahthered at the moment.

      • Vaquera

        Oh, shut the flock up.

    • Chee Chalker

      Maybe someone will have the time and energy to go through this ‘interview’ when all of it has been
      released and point out all the contradictions and lies Marty tells.
      It’s kind of amusing that the only place this video is being released is on his own blog.

      I think Miscavige’s goal was to completely undermine Marty’s credibility. Neither side can trust
      him anymore.

      If I were to post at Marty’s blog (but i won’t waste my time) my questions to him would be
      “Let’s assume EVERYTHING you said in this video is true……my questions to you (Marty) is 1) have you witnessed David Miscavige beat people up? 2) did you beat people up on instruction from David Miscavige? 3) did you order evidence to be destroyed in the Lisa McPherson case?”

      Marty can attempt to create the narrative that the ASC is a bad cult and that people who earn money for exposing Scientology are not to be trusted, but it truly is a waste of time. Even for the group it is directed toward – those who are still in.
      Are they expected to now all of a sudden believe Marty again? After being told for 10 years that he is the Number One SP?

      I see an episode of Season 3 of Aftermath in Marty’s future……

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Looks like he has posted a second video for which the comments are enabled. They are still off for the intro vid.

      ETA: LOL, guess I stated the obvious. Apologies Andrew.

    • Douglas D. Douglas
      • MarcabExpat

        No comments on the videos, but the 2nd blog entry posting the video is allowing them.

        In theory, anyway. In practice, either he’s not letting any comments get through moderation, or nobody’s been masochistic enough to bother attempting to comment.

      • Puget Buckeye

        “Bias Disclosure” Now there’s a loaded phrase. Preach to the choir much?

  • Gus Cox

    I have to say, Tiziano Lugli might just make a dandy Tom Cruise lol

  • mockingbird

    Marty Rathbun is the Judas of Scientology survivors.

    His biggest offense to me is that he has tremendous personal knowledge of the abuses and crimes of Scientology because he carried out many of them himself for years.

    He knew it then and knows Miscavige is still committing crimes every damned day now. For Marty Rathbun to add insult to trauma by denying the harm Scientology is causing people is denying those people their very humanity.

    And he knows it and doesn’t give a fuck.

    So, he can choke on his mystery sandwich (a McRib?) And stick his alternative narratives way up his butt. He is lying and denying the truth every time he floats his ASC bullshit.

    Marty Rathbun, the real question is what else are your crimes? The ones you are already committing are obvious and despicable.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Mockingbird, Did you hear me gasp out loud? “The Judas of Scientology survivors” sort of says it all for me. Actually, your post says a lot. Here, I’ve been questioning his grasp on his sanity and the conflicts that are going on in his mind. But how can a human being, knowing what he knows, behave the way he’s behaving? Unless he truly doesn’t give a fuck. I’ve just had a major mind shift here. Thank you.

    • salin

      Mockingbird – Speak! You just threw me over the tiny last little space on the fence (about one millimeter) I was still sitting on.

    • daisy

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • disco george

    I only watched enough to know that homedude sounds like a first-semester grad student who is trying to use all the right words in class discussion but didn’t actually do their reading (been there, done that). Ugh.

    • Liberated

      disco…really?

  • downtherabbithole

    Mr Rathbun has chosen his path. Where it will lead him, who knows.

    His story is one of too many others who have suffered greatly from the COS.

    Regardless of his once “high” position within the COS, his story and experiences have no higher value than any other persons who have suffered greatly.

    Sure he may have knowledge unknown in the public domain, but does it really matter anymore? The train has left the station and Mr Rathbun missed the train.

    Isn’t he pretty much irrelevant at this point?

  • Gus Cox

    All I can say is:

    Leah Remini FUCK YEAH!

  • Baby

    Have you RUED this yet? Just checking in before going to bed…yawnnnnnnnnn …. love baby
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwCysSCw4g

    • Baby

      Hmmm just noticed.. ( Tony ! I am NOT gossiping) He’s not wearing a wedding ring.. ( Of course I’m not either) but MAC always does.. Just wondering..

      • Puget Buckeye

        Oh my. That could be rather telling.

        • Baby

          Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

          • Puget Buckeye

            That adds a whole other wrinkle to mindset, motives, a shit load of other stuff. Oh my.

            • Baby

              Don’t tell Tony I brought it up.. he’ll have a hissy..

            • Puget Buckeye

              Brought what up? I don’t know what you’re talking about.

            • Baby

              That’s a loyal Buckeye!

            • daisy

              Baby at the risk of blowing smoke up your butt , I just smile when I see your little orange avi. It makes me laugh the way you talk to Tony .

            • Baby

              Hi Daisy… I miss hanging out with you darlin.. Yeah..I gotta keep in line Daise..

            • Robert Eckert

              I think he heard :p

            • Baby

              Oh those mouthy Bunkerues.. Jeeze… xoxo hey Rob..

      • Philbyification

        Well, I AM and just spread it!! lol Thanks Baby!

        • Baby

          Hahhahahahahahhaha … wink..

          • Philbyification

            Bwahaha snortNchortle !

      • Robert Eckert

        But David Miscavige wears his all the time.

        • Baby

          Oh Yes .. cover your ass always Robert..ugh

    • I think anyone who posts a comment on Marty’s blog should assume, just to be safe, that their IP address will be turned over to OSA.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        He has disabled all comments, both on the blog and the videos. No Confront, no Shatter, no Balls.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          I thought his new video Going Clear I was allowing comments?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Just checked. On the blog it does allow comments, but at this point none can be seen.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              It’s official. No comments allowed in the He-man Woman ASC Haters Club

      • My assumption is that OSA might let Marty see posted comments.

      • Baby

        That is a given ISN..

    • Hmm. Even at full screen, Marty is crisp, and the background is nicely out of focus to throw the attention on Marty.

      That’s not cheap blog quality camera work.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Exactly. I posted extensively about this upthread.

      • Baby

        I absolutely agree RM…. SUMP thin is up.. eh?

  • mockingbird

    I think a list of questions for Martty Rathbun is a great idea. Posting them online and daring him to answer is tempting. I bet he either would not answer or would pivot in his answer to something else.

    • Baby

      He won’t answer ASC .. he stated on his blog..Bird..

    • Kari Harris

      AWESOME suggestion! Marty has been dodging questions about the COS for years, talking about only a handful of instances. On one hand I wondered if he was staying quiet about deeper subjects, probably thinking that the gag orders the COS had him sign would get him taken to court by the COS OR he’d get arrested if he came forward with everything. By not coming forward completely 100%, it tells me that he has only scratched the surface of the entire truth.
      I want to tell Marty, if you don’t have anything new or truly relevant to the discussion, move on with your life and enjoy your family. There’s nothing wrong with that. Going online and keeping the pot stirred with your non-information without allowing for any questions or debate shows the weakness of your position.

    • Deb

      He answers nothing, and is offended by your asking.

      • JaxNGold

        Yep. Apparently, he thinks no one has the “f***ing rank” to ask questions.

    • gtsix

      Why waste your time? Such silly. Mark don’t give 2 fucks about any questions.

  • downtherabbithole

    OT: I popped in the other day & saw Johnny Tank had posted.

    JT – It was nice to see you again and is good to know all is well with you. Take good care.

  • iampissed

    Well just watched the whole thing. Marty I read your book waaaaaay before Going Clear.
    Hell Blown for Good had a bigger impact for me then Going Clear. It’s Clear you are not.
    ETA: Hell Marty what would Crazy Legs think.

  • JaxNGold

    I am so goddam tired of Marty’s drama. Whatever his reasons for doing a complete 180, we’ll probably never know. But what irks me the most is how he turned around and shit on so many people who supported him for so long, turned hateful and then went cuckoo with this imaginary “ASC” bullshit.

  • downtherabbithole

    Stepped outside to get some fresh air only to come across nasty June Bugs. Those darn critters creep me out almost as much as the COS.

    • JaxNGold

      Me, too! Ugh, so gross. I’ve had a serious bug & spider phobia since I was a kid.

      • downtherabbithole

        And stepping on one them and the nasty crunching noise they make it just too much!

    • Puget Buckeye

      I used to hate those! You’d step outside and they’d smack you in the face if you were standing under the porch light. Then I moved to the Puget Sound area and got introduced to earwigs and slugs so big they could feed a family of four! The next time Noah loads up his ark, I’m going to give him a list of what to leave off!

      • downtherabbithole

        Yikes

      • downtherabbithole

        Was going to google earwigs but thought perhaps that is not a good idea after all.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Not only are they creepy but they move really really fast. God was having a bad day when those were invented.

          • downtherabbithole

            Damn it – I could not help myself and googled earwigs. I sincerely hope I don’t have creepy dreams/nightmares featuring bugs tonight.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Step away from the google. Step away from the google.

            • EmmaDaoust

              And for the love of all that is good and holy, DO NOT look up Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan.

  • BEETEE

    Is this Marty – following out his threat of “You will RUE the day”…

    Is this video supposed to make us “RUE THE DAY”???

    • Paul V. Tupointeau

      If not the _whole_ day, maybe the 6:52 it took to watch the vid 😉

  • Quick empathy

    Well my last comment for tonight is LEAH ROCKS! Too much talking about that lunk head and not enough talking about how Leah is awesome! She’s my hero!

  • Kari Harris

    Does anyone else want to scream GET TO THE POINT when listening to these videos from Marty?
    I get the general idea that he is trying to get people to come up with their own point of view versus listening to one point of view. After pondering this for a few hours tonight, I came to the conclusion Marty’s head has been up his hindquarters for so long that its cut off the oxygen from his noggin. Sad to say he’s got a fatal case of analcranitis. If he’d pull it out, breathe the fresh air, he’d realize that those of us in Wogland CAN think for ourselves 🙂

    • downtherabbithole

      Does he even have a point?

      ETA: Just more rambling nonsense

      • Kari Harris

        He acts like he has one and will reveal it, but POOF! NOTHING! NADA! ZIP! ZILCH! ZERO! Wish he’d realize that he’s just another guy, not some uber-intelligent being.

        • downtherabbithole

          The delusion is strong in this one

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          This has been his playbook for some time. It’s tiresome. And when that grows stale he simply attacks someone.

          • Dale

            And he uses the element of cryptic, like, “the troika”. Some of us don’t exactly know who the other 2 are. But that’s the point, right?

    • Phil McKraken

      There is no point to get to. You are right that he’s high on his own ass fumes. For a while on his blog, he was going through his post-Scientology philosophical exploration phase, and it was about as trenchant as college freshman late night stoned out dorm room recitation on Camus vs Sartre. I have no idea if he went back to the fold due to genuine self-re-indoctrination or outside inducement, but I strongly suspect it’s the former. He always seemed to me to be a “seeker” personality, which is more likely in Scientology adult joiners than in those inducted in childhood due to their parents’ membership (e.g., Rinder, Miscavige). Seekers gotta seek.

  • Vaquera

    Rathbun: Going Clear, Part 1
    Initial comment: I’ve never noticed someone so obviously looking down to read off of paper notes in his lap during an “interview.”

  • Vaquera

    Rathbun: Going Clear, Part 1
    Second comment: I sat a seat in front and one seat over from Marty during a screening of Going Clear, pre-general release. I spoke to him both before and after the film. He was preening from start to finish. He was proud to be there.

    add: During which, as you all now know, he called me a groupie.

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    The subject is Scientology. That subject’s author is L. Ron Hubbard.

    I lament no one getting all the stories out of the people still alive who lived Hubbard facetime firsthand.

    Terri Gamboa and Janis Grady, they have so much info their heads, and Terri’s views and history just ought to be voluminously interviewed out of her. Steve Cannane did do the first chapter on the Gillhams.

    Terri’s info would just so put Marty historically in his place. (Other people like Terri and Janis with way more significant firsthand Hubbard history, need their info gotten out–the subject still is Scientology, and Hubbard is the main person of historical interest.)

    The narrative used to be surrounding Hubbard.

    It always disappoints me that attention is diverted off of getting firsthand history out of people still alive who had way more Hubbard facetime. (Or people who were in the Apollo ranks who received despatches from Hubbard, who are still alive and who should be interviewed or write about all their years of “LRH traffic” they dealt with interacting with Hubbard, the specifics, as tediously dull and administrative as those interactions with Hubbard were—and the people like Melanie Murray who still someday could talk, things do happen—there are just a boatload long list of people with Hubbard significant interactions who could talk for the history record with info that would give such good background to Hubbard’s detailed final 20 years of private and public writings.)

    Even though the subject is looney, the Hubbard entourage firsthand participants’ firsthand stories are so much more important to get out of those people before they croak.

    And the people who were firsthand with Mary Sue in the end, too! Leslie and Neville Potter, Hett Saunders and Ginny Hof!!!!

    There is so much more details of final years of Hubbard history to show Marty’s views fit into a much bigger picture of the full details of all that Hubbard had going on in the final years.

    • Kari Harris

      Chuck, that would be one hell of a book idea. Your posts are so insightful and perspective so very appreciated.

      • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

        Yea, all these recent two decades of ex member battles and embroilments, when the subject is Scientology, and the main guy is Hubbard, gets lost. Miscavige’s era has been distracting. The Apollo vets at least lived on the same boat as the old goat Hubbard.

    • Gib

      totally agree Chuck, but I think even more face time with Hubbard is revealed in the 1949 personal letters between Hubbard and Heinlein, and between Campbell and Heinlein found on the Heinlein archives website which costs a few bucks to read, and the contents of those letters are not searchable on google. You ought to read them Chuck, much history is told in those letters. Even the scholars miss it, for Campbell was Hubbard’s first auditor in training, and even he left Hubbards dianetics as he told Heinlein Hubbard was wrong. Campbell was probably the first squirrel, and Heinlein was probably the first “critical thinker” of Hubbard’s engrams idea.

      I give the links on my tread on ESMB, Dean Wilbur

      • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

        I started once to get to them, but then got diverted. What’s the link?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Anyone with a brain knows not to do Scientology.”

      Love that line, but unfortunately, some seem not to have received the memo.

      I think that your continuing concern with seeing that the first person accounts of those who worked with Elron directly and other Scn insiders are recorded in some form in order to preserve the historical record is a very worthwhile effort. There are a few, very key missing pieces to the story which would be especially valuable to collect, such as Pat Broecker’s account of Elron’s last days and lil davey’s weaseling his way into power.

      I think that when folks like Marty won’t tell the whole story of their involvement in the cult’s worst deeds and most heinous behavior, then it’s also important to document in real time events like these as they occur and to generate active discussions, like this one, which can also serve to preserve the historical record, even when the subject won’t talk or just lies.

      • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

        Well at least we are miles further with more history laid down, since 2006 onwards to today, compared to prior to 2006, due to all the books and ex member books and the chat site postings I have to appreciate all that’s been added since 2005 onwards by ex members still.

        I kept editing my post, so I’m sorry if that line got lost.

        Even though it is clear that Hubbard is no Jesus, I still feel that all of the Hubbard Apollo era “disciples” do their duty and write their Hubbard warts and all stories to conclusively pile on ALL of the full Hubbard firsthand details so as never to usher in any future depiction of Hubbard as some great human history Jesus , ever, in future human history. (Things are going to go on LONG after we and the next 10 generations are all dead, people today who lived near the old goat Hubbard ought to sometimes think about.)

        Example is the Norman Starkey talk that went with the Ron Miscavige Snr smear site, Starkey’s glowing Hubbard memories, and tears coming to Starkey’s eyes when Starkey was talking about Hubbard’s influence on Starkey, boy, that made me retch. The full load of Apollo vets even in that photo I posted, not a damned one of them would agree with Starkey I have a feeling! (And those in the photo are alive, sitting there, just unplucked hindsight views waiting to answer all manner of deep long issues relating to Hubbard and the final years of Hubbard’s life that those in the photo were upclose, 1st, 2nd, 3rd hand observers with their on the scene views of it all.)

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Elron’s writings and recordings on the subject were vast and difficult for any inititiated scholar or journalist to get their arms around. But what makes their jobs even more difficult is the fact that much of his most important policy, doctrine and tech is confidential and was intended to be seen only by certain sub-groups within the cult, such as all the GO material on how to fair game the cherch’s many perceived enemies.

          Mike Rinder has provided huge insight into the inner workings of the cult’s secret police/interrogation unit while he was in charge of it, including posting some of the key confidential policy directing its operations and by providing first hand accounts of how those operations were implemented under his direction.

          More of the same, coming from other high-ranking $cilons, is exactly what’s needed there. Specifically, the accounts of folks working directly under Marty would be particularly important to gather, especially if he continues to refuse to come clean about his involvement in pivotal events.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    It has been a busy day for me. I will likely post this again tomorrow so many who have already turned in for the night will be able to see it. If this point has been made already, my apologies. I don’t have time to review over 1600 comments.

    I will leave it to others to parse Marty’s pearls of wisdom. Me, I’m a visual guy. And I was struck by how, uh, familiar Marty’s latest video looks. He did not have a recognizable “style” in the past, but here is an example of about the best he was able to achieve on his own. A screen grab from a 2012 video:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e59233ff6dacb4407e2611ef0f4abe9f6d37ec0f57220ab1756e474870f589f6.png

    Note, typical of home video, that the background is in clear focus, and the subject himself is not as crisp and clear. Home video cameras, unless wielded by very skillful owners, don’t know where to focus. Also note the busy, untidy background. Bad lighting on Marty, too.

    Now contrast that with his latest efforts:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/592878108c777be1fcfc17b7197107ca71b8bf033d2a6665d915ad03426ce388.png

    This is a totally professional looking production. Deep background in soft focus. A few artfully placed props. (Nothing placed directly behind the subject’s head.) Lighting to make the subject pop out from that background. Crisp but “casual” wardrobe clothing.

    And it is a rather familiar look. I would go so far as to call it a “house style” for a group that makes a lot of videos like this. Here are a few examples of what I am talking about:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7e08f26d2912f0ea7fbda81fffa0f4b7ae6eea33cda6ff44302025b6a760953.png

    There it is– deep background. Soft focus. Minimal props. “Casual” clothing that looks a little too much like wardrobe. These are, of course, still frames from Gold Base smear videos.

    This could all be coincidental, of course. Maybe whoever worked with Marty on this works in the same way. Maybe Marty’s video was intended to mimic the Scientology house style. Maybe. But if it was shot at the behest of the little man who orders these up, it is clumsy and unaware. Better to have shot with a home video camera with fixed focus and less production value. The high gloss makes the whole thing seem artificial. it’s like an empty message presented in a shiny package. You know– like Scientology.

    • iampissed

      Yes my thoughts and others also
      ETA: A whole lot of key and fill there.

    • MarcabExpat

      Jeff Hawkins didn’t think it was coincidental, either. In fact he said something to the effect that they might as well have put Golden Era credits on it.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I thought this must have struck others. I tend to be very observant of what things look like, and it was uncanny to me. So I went out and found examples.

        • iampissed

          Nice post

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Thank you.

        • MarcabExpat

          Yeah, your comment was excellent display and more than definitive enough for me — and easy to understand for those who might not have understood what was meant by “house style.” Nicely done.

          ETA: and “uncanny” is just the right word for it.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            There’s just so much about this. I have worked in the Industry, so I know how the most “casual” video has to be worked over and worked over– especially if the client is demanding. Look closely at that slash of light on the back wall, and the plant in the corner. The light is produced not by a source from the side, but rather by an instrument from the front that is either shuttered or has a gobo to create that effect. The giveaway is the shadow of the plant– falling in the “wrong” direction. That plant has been lit as carefully as any Hollywood starlet.

            I am also amused at the overuse of Parsons tables. They are a cliche of “elegant living,” and exactly the sort of thing that the Dainty Miss would insist upon.

            • MarcabExpat

              This is awesome and now I want Marc Headley to chime in and the two of you to dissect this thing frame by frame!

            • Puget Buckeye

              I was watching that video and trying, in my little head, to figure out where the window would be if this was a real room. I found myself being distracted by that question and would forget to listen to the wisdom that was being spoken!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              For me it was “Blah blah blah blah blah,” as I noted the “impossible” shadows from the plant, and the fact that the lamp on the table is supposed to be the light source for the side of Marty’s head, yet miraculously leaves the bookcase in the dark.

              IT’S AN ILLUSION FOLKS!

    • Puget Buckeye

      Thank you for putting into words what’s been nagging at me. In the past, various videos have that “home grown” look. Like you said, untidy background. This most recent video looked like it was filmed in a furniture showroom, very staged.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I believe it was shot on a sound stage, or at the very least a room that was cleared out and carefully staged.

        • MarcabExpat

          Aaaaaaaaaaaand now I’m going back and noticing all the parsons tables everywhere and I’m dying.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Also lamps with big shades and skinny stands. In metal.

        • Jon Hendry

          That looks like a pretty big, empty room Marty’s in, in the Golden Era-style shot. Not realistically big and empty.

    • Kari Harris

      Unless Oracle, Alanzo, or Mosey won the lottery, I doubt Marty made these videos by himself. And DD OMG your observation skills are Jedi level. Watching the video again and comparing it to the house style videos, the sound/lighting/equipment used on them seem identical to me.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I love that the Bunker has so many people with so many skill sets. This just happens to be my play pen.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • EmmaDaoust

      Speaking of shiny, in the home vid he’s sweating and glowing, hair is mussy; in the “pro” piece, he’s got make up on, hair styled.

    • Prim

      If I were a travel agency I’d look up his flight information and find out if he traveled to LA recently. But I’m not, alas. That’s how COS tracks people, by being travel agents.

    • Dale

      These are not things I would have noticed. But now that you’ve pointed them out, it does begin to look more like Marty made a package deal with Scientology. Previously, I scoffed at those theories.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Not saying this proves anything. But it does make one think…

    • J. Swift

      Excellent work Douglas. I can add this: The table lamps are very similar in Marty’s video and one of the Golden Era videos. This may seem trivial unless you’re a lighting guy like me. Table lamps are sold in collections. Basically these two lamps have very similar narrow bodies and gauzy shades. They look like they were ordered from a collection in a catalog. One in brass finish and one in silver finish. The brass finish has a bamboo colored shade while the silver finish has a white shade. Exactly what a hotel room designer or set designer would order. These cheap table lamps blend in as props. They also blend into hotel rooms and are meant to be innocuous.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8887941fac3e8c05abf72688b33a60169a86d908bfd5d112176fa6bdc385140a.png

      • J. Swift

        There are also three red books in Marty’s video and another Golden Era video. Books are used as props to suggest studiousness and the quiet repose of one’s private den or study. The five film sets Douglas has posted are all visually quiet and the Kelvin temperature appears to be the same in all the shots. My guess is that they were lighted using Kino Flo, or an equivalent, compact fluorescent fixtures. The lighting is well done and the lighting sources are not cheap.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbeffa5ec38c99f9097e204ffdc76cb7bfb3c121d78d9c64324ca8dd5cc4826e.png

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          This was not done on the fly with a Lowel kit in a hotel room, that’s for sure!

          • J. Swift

            No kidding. This video even went through post production. It has been digitally cleaned up.

  • Tony Ortega

    People, please stop emailing me and pointing out that Marty is not wearing a wedding ring in his new videos. As far as I can tell, he wasn’t wearing one in photos I’ve seen from the past several years. He’s not a wedding ring kind of guy.

    • iampissed

      Ok….I didn’t do it.
      ETA: And please don’t respond just because I was stupid enough to do so.

    • iampissed
      • Phil McKraken

        It’s twue! It’s twue!

    • MarcabExpat

      LOL half an hour past midnight and you’re answering emails about Marty Rathbun of all people.

      Hey, at least you’re not him and getting bombarded with questions about that rude Ortega dude when you’re totally trying to make important points with your expensive new videos.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Yeah, but did you notice that in his latest videos there are NO SHADOWS AROUND HIS NOSE? That takes a really, really professional crew with mad skills and the right kind of equipment.

      Just sayin’.

      • TonyOrtega

        No question it’s a pro shoot. But not enough evidence yet to say it’s Golden Era.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I would certainly not draw that conclusion. Any competent film crew could have shot it. There is a striking resemblance to the preferred house style of CoS, though.

      • Jon Hendry

        Maybe he has a vampire nose.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      That is both hilarious and sad that people would even notice that he wasn’t .
      And you got multiple emails about it.

    • Baby

      Well who would have even noticed it.. Dang.. that person was extremely observant and very bright.

  • Mick Roberts

    This may have already been posted, but for those interested in another podcast with Leah Remini this Friday….

    • downtherabbithole

      Well I will consider this my birthday gift. Happy Birthday to me!

      Thanks for sharing Mick

  • TheMirrorThetan

    If netflix sends me an email pimping this shit again, I am dumping those fuckers for good.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/594a0a6235b5428dd76c88b8d524f02a25d8b7e498273f57859835be61e7f309.png

    • EmmaDaoust

      I’m now getting ads for The Camelot Hotel on my Facebook page. Yay.

    • Baby

      and I’m still getting Gay Sex movies.. ( for real) and I don’t even like straight sex movies.

  • EmmaDaoust

    O/T: Great piece in The Walrus about artist Adam Makarenko who builds miniature worlds, planets, outer space, in his Toronto studio.

    https://thewalrus.ca/imagining-exoplanets/

  • Vaquera

    Night nights
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=spctmJo9BPg
    The Aquatic Life of Steve Zissou

  • Sarah James

    LifeTime movie, hope they show tom cruise playing hide and seek.

  • FredEX2

    Just a few more pics to share from “The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’s” big adventure to the happiest place on Earth~Disneyland, California! What would the end of a big day be without a spectacular parade…
    F6
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7ccdf3d81dac36f05d2210b1fff006c17e2a9b0e8b5a579327db43259bd8b2c.jpg

    And fireworks!
    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7b56cc7a8aa42822358673e46465e9a43a126022d8dfd47769c09eae92c4a43c.jpg

    It was fun to share some fun with y’all here at the Bunker.

    Good night everybody.

    …Good night Miss Lovely, ~Paulette Cooper…wherever you are…thank you for the example of Unbreakable strength, grace and courage in the very midst of Evil…You’re one of my heroines. May goodness and light follow you and may you be blessed always.

    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3176eed73fd110abd7b23eb3c31332a819cfc6a7d4656b517b7e8d0fd35e97a.jpg

    Love,
    FredEX2

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Did you know they call the fireworks at Disneyland “the kiss goodnight?”

      • Elegant Mess

        I ❤️ Disney factoids. Thank you.

      • FredEX2

        No but that’s a good name for it. Very nice show with music and everything. 😘

    • Baby

      Oh Freddie.. how fabulous.. I’ll never forget my vacation to Disneyland.. Wait.. DisneyWorld.. yawnnn.. I can’t sleep, but my mind has been for 3 hrs.

      Fabulous pictures.. WOW

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      That’s awesome that you brought Miss Lovely! 😋I L❤️VE Disneyland! I haven’t gotten to take my little ones yet but can’t wait to! Did you do CA Adventure also or just the main park?

      If you’re headed to SD, the Zoo is opening an amazing Africa-Sahara section so check if that’s open yet & if so, it’s definitely the one to visit (vs the Wild Animal Park, which is also great)!

      Hope you’re having an AMAZING time & doing all the fun things you’ve been looking forward to! 😘

  • Mockingbird

    I think for some reason Marty Rathbun is serving David Miscavige.

    His current actions are in my mind designed to serve the interest of David Miscavige in a manner that Miscavige can have plausible deniability on. Marty Rathbun is trying to sweep aside all the hundreds, possibly thousands, of allegations of crimes and abuses against the Scientology cult – including those against Miscavige himself as cult leader -by discrediting the ex Scientologists, critics and journalists that have disclosed these allegations.

    Marty Rathbun is acting like he is just innocently correcting the record or sharing facts or something. As if the fact that his narrative that a few memes are recycled over and over and from three people is something with which he will discredit all criticism of Scientology is just a happy coincidence for David Miscavige.

    It’s absurd on its face. Anyone with even a slight knowledge of the true history of Scientology knows it’s a criminal organization with many convictions and statements by judges and investigators that firmly establish a rock solid record of crimes and abuses.

    Hubbard’s doctrine makes it clear these acts are required and history shows they are routine. From Snow White to hundreds of other reported incidents of fair game and far too many crimes to list. The Scientology Money Project, Lermanet.com, Let’s Sell These People A Piece Of Blue Sky and my own blog have a wealth of evidence of the crimes as does The Underground Bunker and The Unbreakable Miss Lovely.

    These aren’t memes – they are the true experiences people have had. His pathetic attempt to turn hundreds of court cases, personal accounts, and other pieces of individual evidence into a few memes circulated by sheep are entirely unconvincing and transparent.

    I didn’t write about my experience because it fit some stories by someone else and I am sure hundreds of other people didn’t either.

    And it’s clear these accounts come from hundreds of sources.

    Marty Rathbun is trying to silence all these stories and discredit them all whether true or not with a sweeping statement. The ultimate hasty generality.

    And his troika, the most pretentious word he could find in his thesaurus for three, like Hubbard he uses fancy words to imply his statements are from a smart authority, it’s likely he includes Tony Ortega and Karen De la Carriere in this group. The third member ? Hmm. That has a few possible candidates. Chris Shelton is one.

    I have communicated with all three of these people at various times and never felt bound to follow them in any way. So…

  • EmmaDaoust
  • Mockingbird

    I just saw Marty Rathbun’s latest video. He is zeroing in to discredit Lawrence Wright and Going Clear. He uses a lot of pretentious words to try and make a Scientology double speak statement that will only appeal to bitter enders aka hardcore diehard Scientologists.

    To anyone else his statements will be illogical idiocy. I am not saying it to insult Marty. It’s to point out these words are crafted by Scientologists for Scientologists.

    Marty has a plan his two videos make clear. He wants to dismiss ALL criticism of Scientology, including court cases, criminal convictions, thousands of personal accounts, libraries of books on cults and the entire history of Ron Hubbard by simply calling it a narrative and saying it is being pushed by a troika.

    He says the narrative is based on Going Clear and so he then targets Going Clear and Lawrence Wright for discrediting. He use fallacy after fallacy.

    He uses the composition/division fallacy to try and lump thousands of claims into one. He uses hasty generalization to act like everything is just memes getting recycled.

    He acts like everything is from an anti Scientology narrative that is not representing everything. It’s such a vague way to try to shift attention from the claims against Scientology to attack the attacker.

    Then Marty Rathbun will just attack the attacker and never address individual claims against Scientology. He never will. Not in depth and not ever acknowledging the real criminal convictions and solid evidence against Scientology, particularly if it paints David Miscavige in a bad light.

    That’s Marty Rathbun’s game now. Shift everything to one thing, then act like the source is wrong, genetic fallacy, then just attack, attack, attack. Ad hominem. Marty Rathbun ultimately relies on ad hominem the recourse of a man with no defense because his position is indefensible. Just like Miscavige and Hubbard. Congratulations Marty Rathbun, you are in their company.

    • Shivani33

      Rathbun does not look to be the one who controls the dialogue or the product. Miscavige hangs himself on words, too, in an attempt to sound intelligent, and he drank this in from Hubbard’s entrails. I think that these videos are solely Miscavige’s micro-managed operation. Rathbun presents himself in both videos like an unconvincing automaton, a schill who doesn’t buy what he’s half-heartedly selling. In fact, his presentation is so lousy that, in the real world, he wouldn’t have this job. He is so boring and toneless that he would put birds back to sleep who have just woken up hungry.

      If Rathbun’s own ego structure was being supported or rewarded by his given task, he’d evince some enthusiasm, but instead he’s staggeringly unengaged and the opposite of large and in charge. Even his muttering in the Intro video about having editorial control could’ve been part of the script, used to imply that Rathbun has influence over the project. But instead he looks like he’s been living in the broom closet.

      It could be that Rathbun has no game left at all right now. He had a good spot for himself for awhile, writing, blogging and acting as if he was the guru of his own little cult and the star of his own show and trying to be the star and co-producer of other people’s shows. Whatever has happened, these days Rathbun presents as if he is owned, lock, stock and barrel. In fact, Rathbun doesn’t even seem to have even his own anger left.

      • Mockingbird

        Your comments on his look, lack of emotions and the disclaimer likely being a full reversal of truth seem to hit the mark. If someone else is writing the pretentious drivel Marty now spews it’s certainly got his style.

        But Miscavige has like similar ideas in his own speeches as well. If they aren’t having Marty give some input into his performance someone is going far to make this seem Marty like.

  • Nat-leficent

    He’s sooo awkward and lame:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHLOEjxWy68

    • daisy

      To be fair James is not funny,

      • Nat-leficent

        True, but Cruise sucked even with Letterman. He’s fake and sucky.

  • WhatAreYourCrimes

    Marty, did you sell out? I am glad I never posted on your blog.

    If so, have you supplied scientology with the data you have collected on people in the past from your “squirrel” auditing?

    If you did sell out, Miscavige will burn you.

    By the way, Miscavige is a lousy editor and should have edited out your lip smacking and throat clearing.

    • MaxLuvsDaBunk

      Those can be body language signs of untruths. Perhaps he is in a terribly tangled web now and spewing what does not actually ring fully true to him.

  • PattyCakenfeld

    Yeah, I’m gonna have to skip bunker comments for a while until Rathbun’s videos are over. He’s exhausting and sucks all the air out of the room.

    • Jimmy3

      Whatever you may think of him personally, he is a very intriguing character to a lot of Scientology watchers.

      • PattyCakenfeld

        Of course. I’m just not one of them.

    • Juicer77

      Fair enough. Give it 1-2 days at most.

    • I used to have a Christmas cactus in my living room (in the UK) It had spread all over a large food container I had planted it in. It looked ratty, but I could never bring myself to throw it out.

      One freezing Christmas morning (which marked the end of a very bad year for me) I got up and, on the way to opening the curtains saw that it has blossomed with dozens of red flowers.

      It was so unexpected and beautiful.

      They lasted almost three days indoors. It did this every year thereafter. It still does, after I gave it to someone who re-potted it, and uses to delight her kids.

      • Nice story. I’d love to know how my big indoor fern is doing but the guy would prob have a stroke is an SP phoned. I’m quit sure all my clients were phoned by WISE when I got declared.

        • That gives you an opportunity to buy a Christmas cactus 🙂

    • Juicer77

      Do the flowers smell good? 🙂

      • MostSpecialAgent Joe McClaine

        The night bloomers are the most fragrant, presumeably to attract insects in the dark.
        These don’t smell much. It’s a subtle lemony/fruity type smell, if you get closer enough.

      • Like fragrent powder

  • daisy

    3 am – time to covfefe . If you can use * rue* for months , I get a week at least.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Nighters!

    • FredEX2

      Sweet dreams Daisy 😘

  • Jon Hendry

    Lol. Got an email from someone looking to connect on LinkedIn. Not someone I know. Checked out their LinkedIn page and saw:

    New England Chapter – Board of Directors

    Company Name Foundation for a Drug-Free World

    Dates Employed Jan 2009 – Present
    Employment Duration 8 yrs 6 mos

    *DELETE*

  • Baby

    Here’s Bunkerues headed for HowdyCon.. Can’t wait.. night all.. love baaaaaaaby xo

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f1bfcf66598b89bdceb7c9f509412bd340c197b47eb102bc8cbfb384ba64c63.jpg

    • Baby

      Thanks John M… I knew you would appreciate that one.. love you sweetie..

    • 0tessa

      They block the road to … Scientology!

      • Baby

        Ohhh yes 0 …. The road to the Bridge..

        FABBBBBBBBBULOUS..

    • Juicer77

      🙂 Wish I could be there. I have such a long list of peeps to hug!

      • Baby

        Oh honey I wish you were going too.. sigh.. xo

    • Ann B Watson

      Baaaa, Baaa, I’m the black sheep wandering in the back and probably heading in the wrong direction! Huge hugs and Love to you Baby and all the Bunkerues and we Rue Nothing, It is All Good! ❤️💜💚💛❤️

      • Baby

        ❤️💜💚💛❤️

  • After the introduction, another video, “Going Clear” part 2 has appeared on Marty’s site, and it looks as if he is doing his TRs again – he has the stare…

    It’s a hatchet job on “Going Clear” aimed at Scientologists (especially, I think, UTRs) to prevent them from approaching people like us. It’s also being drip-fed to distract the agenda from things like Leah Remini’s film.

    It’s far too little, far too late, aimed at a tiny audience. It’s evidence that Miscavige is scared that his own people are coming to places like this and that Marty has comprehensively sold out (and got the dirty end of the stick).

    For me, those issues are settled and I don’t care to let the poor man’s antics distract my attention any more unless something really new emerges.

    • chukicita

      Is it really for Scientologists? Marty’s been SP for a long time; erased from Scientology websites, etc.

      I think it’s for critics. To distract and divide.

      • MarcabExpat

        I admit it’s a diversion of sorts, but what critics can he possibly divide at this point? Everybody’s long since decided he’s a puppet. The handful of sycophants who didn’t fade away from his blog aren’t worth fighting for, and he’s a laughingstock in the critic community now.

        It has to be aimed at somebody. Maybe the UTRs who were never at his blog before don’t have all the backstory that we do, but might only now be coming to the point where they dare to watch/read Going Clear. That would be a milestone for them, and maybe DM thinks it’s worthwhile trying to neutralize the effects of that.

        I just can’t figure out who the message would be aimed at, if not those folks. No one else is even making it through the videos without loud mockery.

      • Also, I think the campaign is aimed at a growing number of UTRs who are sticking their heads up over the parapet to see what perspectives critics have to offer.

        If they are presented with the prominent critic who, they know that some of their comrades went to for advice telling them that the critical community is ‘a cult’, that make all the difference.

        It’s certainly distracted us here – but not opened any rifts as far as I can see – in fact it’s probably increased unity because Marty is so obviously being operated like a glove puppet.

        I still think this is to keep the rot at the heart of Scientology under control, and this view is supported by the fact that videos are published only on his blog and comments are switched off, so that those pesky critics don’t spoil it all.

        The only people that will take this line up, are that minority who still worship Hubbard, and they were there all along anyway.

        If it were to cause dissension among critis, that would be a bonus for Miscavige. I don’t think it is the primary aim.

  • Kari Harris

    Marty is some kind of enigma. Plot twists galore. First he’s a sympathetic character who’s being attacked then POOF magically transforms into something stranger and darker. O.O Nobody can say except COB and his possible knob polisher if he’s being funded by the COS. His appeal to old school always ins is apparent. And the haunting similarities in video and audio production quality between Marty and COS made videos doesn’t bode well — this may be the smoking gun connecting Marty to Davey Boy.

    Was thinking about this earlier when DD first posted the different still shots from COS videos to highlight the similarities to Marty’s video if someone could analyze the video files to see if there is any similarities between them. Some photos/videos encode information like geotagging, etc into the file when it’s made….maybe there’s something to connect the dots.

  • Fink Jonas
    • MarcabExpat

      Well, bless his heart, I hope he gets the part.

  • chukicita

    I think it is important to remember, as we form notions of troikas and power struggles and such, something Tory reminded me of the other day.

    When Tory was helping out OSA, their goals for online ops revolved around *divide and conquer*. Split critics into groups, and pit them against each other.

    Confuse people as much as possible, so that it’s too much effort to look deeper, and they’ll go on to something else.

    Make places where Scientology is talked about uncomfortable places to post. Spread dirt. Dev-T.

    Let’s be careful not to let Marty frame the argument. Mysterious promises of “forthcoming information” that never occurs has been going on for years. Kind of like Scientology itself.

  • ScieNAHolgist

    Re: Troublemaker Sean Spicer as Tom Cruise.

  • Kaarli S Makela

    Something tells me that if Johnny Depp were to play him in a Lifetime movie, it would drive TC around the BEND!

  • WhatAreYourCrimes

    I would love to see Matt Damon play Tom Cruise.

    He would not only nail the impersonation, but he would find some subtle nuances in Cruise’s character that even Tom Cruise isn’t aware are there.

    Matt Damon, portraying Tom Cruise, would utterly baffle David Miscavige’s “useful idiot”.

    Please cinema powers, make this happen!

  • Meepthorp

    I finally watched the Marty Vid- Ugh! Looks like anything that Marty thinks is outside his own agreed-upon narrative will not see the light of day in this video series. He starts off with a truth, except he generalizes that truth to everyone, then goes off the rails with a Breitbart-style conspiratorial view of all people and things critical of Scientology. Then as if that weren’t enough, he sets up the series to be the Quintessential Dead Agenting of any high profile Critiques of the scientology organization, outside of his own, which apparently no longer includes any critical thinking at all. This video series has FAIL written all over it, and that is why, more than anything I suspect. the organization is behind it. Marty, get help. Like tRump, you are undermining your own self by opening your mouth at all at this point.

  • LindaFromNewYork

    I think Tom Cruise….should play Tom Cruise…LOL