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Scientology to federal court: A judge calling our members directly? Are you nuts?

[Tampa attorney Wally Pope finds himself between two headstrong figures]

The last time we checked in on the Garcia fraud lawsuit, Tampa federal Judge James Whittemore sounded like he’d lost all patience with the Church of Scientology. He restated, in no uncertain terms, that he was fed up with the bickering on both sides and was taking over the process of selecting a panel of arbitrators from a list of 500 Los Angeles-area Scientologists submitted by the church under seal.

But once again, the church is risking the judge’s wrath. It filed a motion yesterday questioning the judge’s intentions, and we’re almost starting to feel sorry for church attorney Wally Pope, who no doubt must be submitting this stuff under the insistence of his diminutive client, Scientology leader David Miscavige.

If you remember, California couple Luis and Rocio Garcia filed their fraud lawsuit in 2013, claiming that the church had lied in order to get large donations from them. In 2015, however, Judge Whittemore sided with Scientology, saying that the Garcias were required by contracts they signed as church members to submit their grievances to internal Scientology arbitration, and he stayed the lawsuit. But in the two years since then, the two sides have been unable to seat a panel of arbitrators, who must be church members in good standing. So Whittemore stepped in and decided he would select the panel, and ordered the church to turn over the list of 500 names and phone numbers.

Scientology complied, but now it has filed a new motion asking the judge, essentially, to rethink what he’s already very forcefully indicated that he’s going to do.

Just as we had, Scientology is anticipating that things aren’t going to go very smoothly if Judge Whittemore (or his clerks) begin randomly calling Los Angeles Scientologists and asking them to serve as arbitrators — and at the same time, instructing them not to go running to the church, which is under strict orders not to contact any of the people on the list.

Can you imagine? You’re a paranoid, indoctrinated, and fully frightened Scientologist, already dreading the next visit or phone call from church vultures who want you to donate more, more, more, and out of the blue you get a phone call from Florida and it’s supposed to be some judge asking you to sit in judgment of the church and not tell anyone about it.

Does that have Xenuriffic disaster written all over it or what?

The church sure seems to think so.

Defendants have expressed to the Court their concerns that direct contact to Scientology parishioners from a civil court about Scientology justice proceedings may cause alarm of such individuals, who did not assume their identities and contact information would be disclosed to a court without notice, as well as about the practical problems that may arise from this process. It also raises ecclesiastical questions, because parishioners may raise questions about such contacts with appropriate Church officials. Indeed, it is possible parishioners may decline to discuss the matter until contacting such persons.

Ya think?

Of course compliant Scientologists, already scared witless by a lifetime of security interrogations and other Scientology scare tactics, are going to freak out in this situation.

In his last order, Whittemore had suggested that Scientology’s attorneys notify church officials of what’s going on so they aren’t caught blindsided. This assumes the quaint notion that David Miscavige isn’t already being kept informed of every minute detail of what’s been happening in this case. But Wally plays along and pretends that this isn’t the case…

Defendants are under an injunction not to discuss this matter or the Court’s directives, even with Church officials, some of whom are on the list presented to the Court. Defendants are uncertain what it is they should or even are permitted to say to “Church officials,” let alone what the Court requests that the defendants instruct such officials to say to a parishioner who is contacted by the Court and then seeks advice from such a Church official.

Did you catch that? Among the 500 names submitted to the court are church “officials,” which is interesting — you’d think with millions (*cough cough*) of Scientologists to choose from, they could have avoided submitting the name of executives, who clearly shouldn’t be on an arbitrating panel.

Wally (or rather, his client) goes on to bring up “religious” complications whenever possible because, you know, this is a church and it’s all churchy and stuff. Like, how can a church member go on an arbitrating panel if they’re deep into the really religious activity of running around a pole? (That’s what you do in the very religious Scientology course called the “Cause Resurgence Rundown,” for you beginners.)

A parishioner who is on a particular intense course of religious counseling or study may seek advice whether he may interrupt that activity to participate in religious arbitration. Such religious questions are far beyond the competence of this or any court to answer, and must be referred or left to the discretion of the religious authorities.

Four uses of the word “religious” in two sentences! That’s gotta be a record.

Even though the judge has already reacted angrily at the notion, Pope once again suggests that Judge Whittemore employ a prophylactic measure in order to protect the sanctity of Scientology from becoming infected. He’s written up a cute letter that the court could send out as if it were coming from Scientology’s International Justice Chief, Mike Ellis.

“I am writing to inquire whether you would be willing and able to participate in a religious arbitration concerning a dispute between two former Scientologists and several Scientology churches concerning claims made by the former for refunds of donations made to such churches,” begins the letter, which we have for you in full below.

Will the judge go for it? Well, he’s going to need to do something about nutty Scientologists freaking out when they get a call from a federal court. But it’s hard to see this judge submitting to Scientology’s suggestions after the heartburn he’s clearly already experienced in this case.

Please give the motion and the letter a good look, and let us know how you think the judge is going to react.

 

GARCIAMotionClarification

 
GARCIAIJCLetter

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

We got this great shot from our friend Kate Bornstein, who had this to say about the photo she snapped: “Today is a huge music festival. People are pouring out of the subway at 125th & Lexington. To get to the festival, they all (hundreds of them) have to walk by the org in East Harlem on 125th between 2nd & 3rd Aves. No body routers, no one handing out fliers, empty org.”

 

 
Kate certainly has a point. After all, this is the reason that you spend the big bucks to have a storefront on a major street — for the foot traffic! And then when it comes, no one is out there with tickets for a Dianetics movie or handing out personality tests? How out-tech.

Meanwhile, San Diego is getting cleared, two people at a time…

 

 
Actual caption: “Community Charity Coalition – Inspiring the Next Generation. On Wednesday, May 24th, over 100 guests gathered for the May Charity Coalition luncheon in the Church of Scientology’s Fort Harrison Crystal Ballroom. Guests were treated to a 5-star meal and an afternoon of inspiration on how greater coordination between like-minded charities help improve the community….Accomplished actress and humanitarian Kelly Preston addressed the guests on the importance of volunteering within the community. Ms. Preston gave an example of her own volunteer work with the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a non-profit watchdog organization that investigates psychiatric abuses in the field of mental health.”

 

 
In Florida, local muslims hold a vigil to honor the men in Portland who were killed trying to stop bullying of Islamic passengers on a train. But hey, the Scientologist sees an opportunity and takes it! Human rights, yay!

 

 
Actual caption from the Norwoods Mission in Johannesburg: “This young man, Corbyn Muller, joined staff today. When I asked why he decided to join today he said ‘Well I should join now instead of 5 years from now’ Corbyn has joined the ranks of the Norwood Mission staff!!! We are proud to have him as part of the team! Feel free to join him!”

 

 
Corbyn has no doubt made mum proud…

 

 
Oh look, the new “Ideal Org” building has been purchased for Santa Barbara in nearby Ventura at $6.25 million, and once again they go for the space-age office building look, and in a location with zero foot traffic.

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,770 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,527 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,873 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,367 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,407 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,119 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 645 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,734 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,874 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,194 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,169 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 525 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,827 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 934 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,336 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,209 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 790 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,295 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,539 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,648 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 3, 2017 at 07:00

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  • Jgg2012

    “direct contact to Scientology parishioners from a civil court about Scientology justice proceedings may cause alarm.” Having drug rehab centers that have no physicians on staff (Narconon) also causes alarm, not to mention unnecessary deaths.

  • Gary

    Tony, thanks for posting the info about San Diego. I grew up with Henry, best buds since 5 yrs old when our families moved in a few doors apart at the same time. So many memories together. I got him into Scientology when we were 18 at Stevens Creek mission, (a totally rocking place at the time). He moved to San Diego shortly after, which broke my heart.

    He was a great drummer recorded a 45 with a local band, tried to market the “fan club” an inflatable bat with your teams logo on it. I was his best man at his wedding and subsequently we went about our lives. After I got out I met with him a few times. I thought he might come around and see the lies and deception, his daughter had a short-lived trip into the SO around that time too. He later disconnected due to the normal pressures to do so,though I thought maybe he was UTR and one day I might hear from him.

    He is a great guy and I can hear him sharing his success story. I wish him the best and do hope he sees the truth down the road and still has something to his name. I would be so great to reconnect somewhere down the road and share the stories before I forget them all.

    • Marshall

      Thanks for your input Gary. I’m interested in Henry’s age if you’re willing to share. Seems like he’s been plugging away at going clear for a long time if he started at 18.

      • Gary

        57. He was clear before and had it revoked.

        • Marshall

          Ahhhh had to redo everything! Thanks!

    • Keep wishing Gary. I hope so to. Story telling is best around a campfire. I’m looking for a rack that will go on the end of my RV. There I will have my tool box and campfire. I would love to hear your stories.

    • Gary, did you read Mike’s post today?

      • Gary

        Yes I did. Empty as usual. Thanks!

  • flyonthewall

    “Oh my f&^^%# God!!!”

    A censored expletive taking God’s name in vain in a “church” promo. That pretty much sums it up for Scientology. Wonder how this promo would be received by their interfaith partners if they ever saw it?

    I’m surprised they even censored it. Why bother?

  • Anonymous Confused Person

    “Sincerely, Mike Ellis”?

    “Sincerely”? Since when is that a word used in Scientological correspondence?

    • burythenuts

      It is probably code for “You will NOT be available for this arbitration or tiny boots will kill your dog and grandma”.
      And besides, the “much love” shit might just make the Judge completely lose his mind and bring the hammer down.

      ML, 🙂
      Bury

  • nottrue
    • Tony Ortega

      Just like Boston and Miami. They’ve given up on the idea of downtown buildings with foot traffic.

      • Science Doc

        Works for Amazon.

        • Eivol Ekdal

          Do they plan on using drones for body routers?

          • Science Doc

            They’re already drones.

      • Kestrel

        And Dallas.

    • Sherbet

      I wonder what the staff will do all day. Seriously.

      • Science Doc

        Good surfing by the breakwater.

        • Sherbet

          Their pants and vests will get pretty soggy.

          • Science Doc

            Well everyone should wear a vest surfing by a breakwater.

            • Sherbet

              Preferably, not one that will pull the surfer under. Wet wool probably would do that.

            • Science Doc

              Golden Age of Surfing Tech, inspired by Ron introducing long boards to So Cal while he was hanging with Parsons.

            • Sherbet

              While he was hanging ten with Parsons.

      • balletlady

        FILE!…..Someone has to file away all those documents they are constantly asking parishioners etc to help with.

      • chukicita

        Write letters to people who bought Dianetics three years before they were born, including a cryptic big brothery reference that the addressee has been watched and followed.

    • GrangerFX

      Having zero foot traffic is a very good plan. When there is foot traffic and body routers, anyone with a camera or eyes can see them fail. When your building is behind a fence and (sporadically) maintained vegetation, you may not notice that the ideal org is just an empty shell.

      It would be a fun project to setup a camera in front of each ideal org and record 24 hours of time lapse video to see just how many people actually go into the building. It would underscore that Scientology is the hollow religion. All buildings and no people.

  • JaxNGold

    “…because, you know, this is a church, and it’s all churchy and stuff..”

    Hilarious, Tony!

    • April

      Tony’s snark today was almost palpable. And the CO$ totally deserves it in this case.

  • Charles Eichelberger

    Damn. It’s not enough that they bought Larry Hagman’s estate in Ojai, they had to ruin another building in my town. And just so you know, there is a construction company (Granite), Movement Mortgage, and Career Care Institute there. The only access to it is a small street that runs parallel to the freeway and you are correct, there is no foot traffic unless they want to hit up the runners from the local cross country team from high school that run by there. The only thing I can think of that is nice about it is the fact that people driving the 101 can see the signage from the freeway. Other than that, a real turd of a place.

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    “…Kate certainly has a point. After all, this is the reason that you spend the big bucks to have a storefront on a major street — for the foot traffic! And then when it comes, no one is out there with tickets for a Dianetics movie or handing out personality tests? How out-tech….”

    Wow this is an amazing missed opportunity. A boss over the salesperson department normally would send out their most handsome “body-routers” to lure in people of this age, the perfect newcomers that handsome “body-routers” normally can entice into Scientology with their good looks!

  • Joe

    Wow, it’s almost like their arbitration is completely unworkable. I think the judge is getting very close to saying screw it and let the suit proceed in court. I mean the record is clear that he tried very hard to make arbitration a viable option but it seems like if they can’t have a transparent and fair arbitration process without risking the eternity of 3 scientologists, them it really is unworkable just like the Gracias said 4 years ago. It’s clear the Attorneys fear DM more than the judge but I think they’re forgetting that a federal court can exert just as much power as a “church” when need be

    • Puget Buckeye

      If the church keeps on like this, throwing up road blocks and stalling, I wonder if the judge will eventually find them in contempt of court? At some point, he’s going to have his fill of this nonsense.

      • Quick empathy

        It’s like when my kids​ kept asking for the same thing over and over again. It would tick me off! Not only would I restate that the answer is “no” but then they were in trouble for annoying me!

  • burythenuts

    I was in downtown Clearwater yesterday and I looked up at the ‘crossed out cross’ on top of the SP building and I thought of the Garcias,… and then started chuckling under my breath a bit.

    Hubby says: whats so funny?
    I said: You want to buy that cross up there? After all, about 17 other people have.

    His response: Blank Stare at me as he almost hits a SeaOgre who jaywalked in front of us.

    Sea Org guy must have been OT (hahaha…NOT), because he stuck out his hand and just like that our car just stopped and it didn’t hit him. It was almost as if my husband used his brakes.

    • Science Doc

      Sea Orgers should carry disability insurance so they can pay their freeloader debts when they get hurt and can no longer save the planet.

    • Juicer77

      Hi, Bury! 🙂 Hoping against hope that the Garcia case will open the floodgates of refund requests.

      • burythenuts

        Hi there,
        I am hoping for the refund floodgates too.

        But what I really want is the IRS to finally revoke that religious tax exemption based on the fact that this ‘religious’ refund policy that helped these jackasses get that religious tax exemption is, and always has been a SHAM.

        Yes Tony, That sentence was for you

        And to Wally Pope and minions…when it comes to grammatical errors (both intentional and unintentional), you guys are amateurs!

    • I_scream_truck

      Was the lack of Scilons still noticeable in the area, or are they starting to ignore the ban?

      • burythenuts

        Still very noticeable. Some were waiting for the bus in the usual spot at the Flag building. Saw only two more on the street. (excluding the jaywalker).
        One was on the corner of Fort Harrison and Cleveland (in front of the Coachman building) talking to a female Detective.
        The other one was going in the back door of the Coachman building.

        All were blonds! There must be a run on the imports from the Viking nations.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Maybe that Jaywalker was DM in disguise trying to get his FOOTbullet crime stats up?

  • Quick empathy

    Look at all those young people walking by the scientology building. I guarantee you that every one of them have been on the internet and probably access it everyday. Can you imagine them being involved in anything that would try to censor their access on the internet?! HAHAHAHA

  • John Prince

    With all the negative Press flying around about co$ These Days, Now’s the BEST time to piss off an already pissed-off Federal Judge, Right? Way to go captain, just brilliant 💡

  • Mockingbird

    Sometimes I know Tony Ortega is trolling David Miscavige. He mentioned a “prophylactic” measure…and obviously we respond by wishing Ron Hubbard’s father used a prophylactic himself.

    It’s just too easy, some days.

    David Miscavige is entirely impotent in the face of some challenges. The judge has set up one for him and he can’t stand it. The sensitive snowflake er ecclesiastical leader can’t stand the idea of not having absolute control of everything and everyone. Any sane and intelligent person in his position would have had a gag settlement long ago and minimized his exposure. He would have given most or even all the money back and buried this case like so many others. But arrogance and overconfidence are in his makeup.

    A chip off the old block from Hubbard himself in that regard. Human beings for some odd reason like confidence in leadership and unfortunately the crushing certainty of extreme narcissism fulfills that role far too often. He has confidence ! Yay ! Unfortunately, he doesn’t have competence, honesty, sanity, compassion, empathy or basic human decency. But he sure believes in himself. So, we will too ! After all – what could possibly go wrong ?

    • Puget Buckeye

      Oh, I believe in him all right. I believe that he is his own worst enemy. I believe that his handling of this case could be a large part in his undoing or the undoing of the church. I’m a true believer!

      • Mockingbird

        Oh boy. That’s not the kind of true believer he wants.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Trust me, he doesn’t want me. Definitely, doesn’t want ME!

  • Quick empathy

    Judge to scientologist: I would like to talk to you about participating in arbitration. This is to settle a legal dispute between 2 former scientologists and the church. Scientologist:. Thinks to themselves: Hummm. Expensive sec checking and possibly being declared an SP. Lose my family, friends and possibly my job. “Ah, judge, I don’t think I’m able to participate. Thanks”.

    Of course there is perjury, not like a scientologists haven’t done that before.

    • Oh don’t worry. There will be do-gooders leaping out of the woodwork to do their duty. I feel for the Garcia’s. Hope they are doing OK.

  • Quick empathy
  • GrangerFX

    This is my favorite current topic. It illustrates that the COS is completely disconnected from reality to the point that its own lawyer cannot even explain why the cult cannot follow simple instructions. At this point, Judge Whittemore should find that the cherch never had any intention nor ability to implement its own arbitration policy. Arbitration is fundamentally incompatible with their teachings and beliefs. Thus he should throw out the arbitration agreement and move the proceedings to jury trial. This of course would set a precedent mean that all future lawsuits would have to be resolved in court. Alternately he could move that the issue be resolved with standard professional arbitration. The reason is simple: The COS is admitting that simply contacting them directly “raises ecclesiastical questions”. What would full blown arbitration do?

    • John McMillan

      Hold on a minute…isn’t communication the universal solvent?

  • Every single day I take puppy for a walk and thank my lucky stars and those that got out before me and the ones looking in from their own world, never bought in and simply care about others. I’m still wrapping my wits around it but just want to say thanks all you guys. I really wasn’t sure it would turn out OK. I’m planing the decals for my new rig. SCIENTOLOGY an industry of money on the drivers side. In the same color and font as their scare Mobil. On the passenger side, the one the staff smoking outside can see, I’m designing a Winny the Pooh scean. Piglet will be drifting holding his runaway balloon almost to Owls house (which will of course have a library of my heros book spines showing). Winny will be down below holding a Call-Me sign. That’s my plan OSA. See I can do something to ease the suppression. Happy Saturday my friends 🙂

  • Bob Crouch

    The most telling item in the proposed letter: “Don’t call anyone about this; only the IJC.”

    It sounds like an effort to assert the supremacy of the scientology “justice” system over any justice system such as–you know–the one we are all subject to in this society.

    But it also sounds like another bite at the apple of subverting the judge’s order that said that a person chosen on the panel is to talk to NO ONE. So this is advising: “if you have questions, don’t call the court; call the cult–an interested party, of course!”

    • chukicita

      The “I will instruct you” line was amusing, too. He’s basically saying out loud that he will control their conclusion.

      • Christinadina

        that was my favorite part! “don’t worry – we’ll tell you what to say”

      • Bob Crouch

        Now that you mention it: “I will instruct the arbitrators…applying scientology policy to the dispute in a NEUTRAL and FAIR manner, as required.”

        Really? How would THAT work out?

    • Kestrel

      Does anyone actually get through to the IJC?

      “Your honor, we instructed The Elite 500 to contact the iJC. Over the last three months, the IJC has yet to hear from anyone. Excuse me? No, the IJC does not have voicemail. Nor email.”

      • Andrew Robertson

        “Did you use Telex? That is the only technology mandated by L Ron Haddock for official communication, Come up to present time!.”

        Andrew

        • Ann B Watson

          Oh no not the dreaded Telex Machlne. Marry him to the PBX @ Asho and I can assure you if I am near either one….does anyone have the Manuel for Ann to Word Clear Again?! In Sea Org 1974-78 Asho Fdn. I flunked both during my time and during bull-baiting I was laughing so hard at the impressions of me trying to work those and do not forget the Pitney Bowes Folding machine, it about folded me! Good to meet you.❤️

  • nottrue
    • Ha ha… Exit!

      • Liberated

        Reminds me of the movie “The Shining “….lonely place.
        Maybe it’s full of ghosts.

    • Sherbet

      Mike talked about the windows being blocked, saying it would have been great advertisement for the public to see bustling people going about their scientology work. Obviously, there’s nothing going on and no people inside, so the windows had to be covered.

      I’m reminded of a circa 1960s quote from Mad Magazine: “If communism was such a big success, why don’t they put up a picture window instead of an iron curtain?”

  • chukicita

    Kelly Preston at a charity luncheon, holds up as a model of volunteerism her extraordinary commitment to a hate group.

    100 people at that lunch? I hope they had some wine at that meal. Or Macallans.

    • John McMillan

      More like a 100 sea ogres in civies.

      • chukicita

        I’m thinking there was probably a mimeograph sent to the strip mall of Scientology front groups up the street, and to Tampa org and the outposts. Each of them is a “charity.” As would the Scientology schools in the area, and the boosters clubs for them are separate 501c3s. Keep the SO in uniform passing canapés to the whales.

        Saving the world, one hors d’ouvres at a time.

  • Bob Crouch

    It’s pretty hilarious: The lawyer letter intimates that scientologists may not be able to serve as arbitrators because “religious” activities may just keep them too busy. So what if this were a garden variety jury duty summons? Last time I checked, “cult” obligations did NOT qualify as an exception!

    Now “felony” did; but does “potential felony serving a cult?”

  • chukicita

    I keep going back to the phrase, “it’s not an ecclesiastical requirement” in that letter so blatantly not actually written by bikin’ Mike Ellis.

    Why would anyone think it would be an ecclesiastical requirement to serve on an arbitration penal? How would doing that get you brownie points on Target Two, or whatev?

    Conversely, what *are* ecclesiastical requirements?

    • Liberated

      Just be thankful he doesn’t wear bike shorts !

    • Graham

      In the words of Father Ted, “That would be an ecumenical matter”.

    • Kestrel

      It can’t possibly be a Scientology ecclesiastical requirement. The organization’s member hadn’t already contributed their fixed amount donation for the privilege.

    • GrangerFX

      It could replace the picture of the white grand piano she has hanging over her white grand piano.

  • UhLasare

    Chris Shelton’s latest Sensibly Speaking Podcast, with Jeffrey Augustine, is really good. Recommend you listen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPNqDOx8xU

    • Supper Powers

      Ugh. I couldn’t get through it. It makes me uncomfortable when people keep interrupting the person they are interviewing. I like them both so much, but couldn’t get through it.

      • UhLasare

        I didn’t have that issue at all, although that often bugs me. This was just so packed with good info. The way that the IAS and the IASA work in conjunction with the Sea Org was explained in a way that I never heard so clearly before, and understand a little better how the scam has been organized.

        • Supper Powers

          Jeffrey is a vault of knowledge.

  • Science Doc

    Pope should have instead filed a motion for summary covfefe.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner
    • BlueHeronBay

      One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn’t belong.

      • Puget Buckeye

        One of these things does not belong.

        • BlueHeronBay

          Thank you. I hit post before I finished typing the second line. GMTA.

    • Sine qua non

      But are the tables wide? Or is it just a wide range of skinny tables?

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      The Hotel Preston? Scientology books? Sleep with one eye open love. 😀

      • Sherbet

        Gee, even Camelot Castle didn’t think of offering that perk.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          I’m truly surprised they don’t. I wonder if the combination of The Light Box & Blubbard’s writings crosses some sort of line in the Geneva Conventions? 😂

          • Sherbet

            You’re right. It would be too cruel.

        • MarcabExpat

          Nah, that’d be out-exchange!

      • Robert Eckert

        Hotel Kelly Preston?

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          I sure hope not. lulz

          But yes, that’s what my lame joke was inferring. 😀

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Judge Whittemore should have denied religious arbitration in 2015. The case law precedent is clear, religious arbitration is allowed despite the First Amendment separation of church and state if the arbitration system is well established with known rules, arbitrators and prior rulings. Scientology still has none of the required elements. In addition, the church is playing a dangerous game with this motion. It is confirming that the Garcias were right about the church’s contempt for the court order, and it arrogantly assumes that Judge Whittemore will not simply overrule his prior opinion and order commercial arbitration (which is what he should do).

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***

    Good day Bunkerettes and Bunkeroos,

    Showing off one more time before bed.

    Detroit is leading the way, it can still be done and they did it.
    51 ads flagged for removal in one day, it can be done.
    Detroit is clear of Craigslist ads for today.

    What’s up with Chicago and 25 ads “Deleted by its author”?

    Flag the lies, whack a few bait & switch ads : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

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  • Bob Crouch

    Says the San Diego cultie (sounding like a 15-year old texting): “Oh my f@@@ing God.”

    Just when I thought that God had absolutely no place in this “religion”…

    • Kestrel

      “Oh my f@@@ing Me!!!”

  • Bob Crouch

    Corbyn’s got it figured out: Better join now than in 5 years. Who knows if there’s anything left to join by then…

  • Yesterday, it was widely reported that Lea Remini is joining Kevin Can Wait Season Two as a series regular. Today, it is being reported that the woman who played James’ character’s wife on the series is leaving the show. Sources say it was a matter of the show going in a different creative direction. This indicates Leah may have a bigger part in the show than previously thought

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/erinn-hayes-leaving-kevin-can-wait-1202453205/

    /

    • Observer

      Leah’s stats are straight up and vertical!

    • Sine qua non

      I never once watched King of Queens when it was in production/first run, etc. Not that I had anything against it-I just didn’t watch a lot of TV (other than sports) back then. However, I have started watching reruns of it for one reason-Leah Remini! At first, I was just curious as to what this courageous woman was like. But now, I watch KOQ reruns whenever I can. She is a really good actress, I think! So funny, so spunky. I think she’s far underrated. No offense to Kevin James, but I enjoy her character more than his. (Kevin, if you’re reading this, I’m sure you’re a great guy and I like you, but I thought you should have helped around the house more, etc! Also, you should have let Leah take you clothes shopping!)

      If she is on Kevin Can Wait next year, I’ll watch it. If not, probably not. (Again, no offense, Kevin. I might watch, okay? Now I feel guilty!)

      My point is, Leah rocks! I can’t imagine how she can do so much so well. But one thing is certain-she’s great because she’s Leah Remini. And she’s great because she survived and ultimately left Scientology, not because she was in it.

      The same goes for Mike Rinder and all of the other former Scientologists, whether in the public eye or not. I am in awe of your ability to heal and speak truth to power. It amazes me. I was never in, so I can’t say, but I could not have endured and come back like you have.

      Yeah! And oh yeah, Wally Pope: shame on you for working for this horrible cult. You have plenty of money. I used to live in Florida, and I know you don’t need any more money! How about standing up for real justice and dumping your “client”? You might even sleep better at night.

      • Jeb Burton

        Yeah. Her character was like a real wife. Annoying and bitchy.

    • The AV Club has a story on this that contains a bit of speculation in the headline.

      http://www.avclub.com/amp/256281

      /

  • Jgg2012

    btw, the judge will not actually call them. His law clerks will. So, its not that intimidating.

    • Observer

      I expect the cherch will continue its long tradition of lying to the members about that.

    • burythenuts

      Sure it is. A WOG is calling.

  • Shivani33

    Judge Whittemore has been informed that the (nonexistent) religious arbitration process is scientologically far beyond his competence, or any court of law’s competence to adjudicate, and therefore, the laws of Scientology may only be open to interpretation by the internal government of Scientology itself. This is Miscavige with his tenth-grade education talking here via his mouthpieces. He might as well be standing atop of a roof and yelling, ” you’re not the boss of ME! So nanny nanny boo-boo!” I don’t want to spoil the endgame response from Judge Whittemore by estimating what it’ll be like. Really, this pleasure ought to be his.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Newiga

      “He tried to tell me how L.Ron had discovered the best way to teach! 30 years as a teacher, I think I got this!” LOL!!

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        At a dinner table where two seasoned educators told him of their successes and then hubbard in his next lecture pronounced that as his research. It is called dinner table aggrandizement rights.
        Of course hubbard probably added in his authority supporting control factor to state that the ONLY reason anyone gives up a study is because of a misunderstood word.
        Yah right saviour of this sector of the gal_ux_see. Is that why he failed a number of his college classes? Bloviator indeed.

        • Newiga

          Hubbard was a pompous quack and a down-right a-hole.

  • The Hotel Preston offers the book What is Scientology on its Spiritual Menu along with Bibles, The Torah, Quran, Eight Noble Truths, etc.

    https://twitter.com/IndieScieNews/status/871107256762245120

    • GrangerFX

      If you choose that last option you get a note scrawled on a napkin in lipstick that reads “It’s bullshit!”

  • J. Swift

    IMO, Scientology’s latest legal proposal is a blatant attempt to bias and intimidate Scientologists. Given the fact that the IJC signs SP declares, a letter from the IJC carries a veiled threat. Hence, this proposed letter telegraphs an implicit threat that screams to Scientologists “STAY AWAY!” from any participation in arbitration.

    Judge Whittemore can now reasonably and fairly conclude, based upon the claims submitted by Scientology itself, that there can be no fair arbitration and that the matter must go to trial.

    In my view, Judge Whittemore will send this to trial in order to protect Scientology parishioners who may be involved in, “a particular intense course of religious counseling or study may seek advice whether he may interrupt that activity to participate in religious arbitration.” Wally Pope has handed the judge enough rope to hang Scientology’s arbitration procedure.

    Scientology has overplayed its hand by admitting that being contacted by the court about serving in arbitration can cause such panic, alarm, and distress amongst Scientologists that the court has no right to interfere in, or hamper, the spiritual progress of Scientologists.

    • “Judge Whittemore can now reasonably and fairly conclude, based upon the claims submitted by Scientology itself, that there can be no fair arbitration and that the matter must go to trial.”
      I bet the judge is a good poker player.

    • PeaceMaker

      J., to that analysis I would add, that the involvement of the IJC would also telegraph to Scientologists that the arbitration is being monitored from the highest levels of their “ethics” enforcement apparatus – and that there is only way possible way to rule, that “SPs” have no rights and that the “greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” is always whatever supports the CofS.

      As I wrote previously, I suspect that since Judge Whittemore has been citing a precedent where a judge who modified an arbitration was overturned on appeal, that he will try to stick as close as possible to the original agreement and find some way to appoint 3 arbitrators even if they have to come from outside of Scientology, rather decide the matter judicially. Scientology certainly seems to be demonstrating how it is impossible for scientologists to be part of any arbitration as the “wog” world understands it.

    • What, you mean the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology has come right out and said that obeying the laws of the land is incompatible with being a $cientologist?

      Ooops.

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        Do as the founder did…that should work.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    An Australian clam explains Tiger Woods’ problems – yep, it’s the psyches! SMH
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d19ad05576efc25f8dd0c17ca09d78e0dbb7f71cf5da149c7388927aef28cbd.png

    • Supper Powers

      It must be utterly exhausting to be this paranoid.

    • Observer

      Someone should ask this clam why the Tasmanian Aborigines are now extinct.

      • Sherbet

        He’ll claim Margaret Mead conspired to keep them down.

    • Science Doc

      Tiger Woods has had about seven back surgeries. Some of them small, but the most recent one was a fusion. I’m always on opiates for at least two weeks after a fusion, and I don’t like opiates. I don’t know what his toxicology will show from the police and or defense tests, but self administered prescribed pain medication will be on the list. As far as girls coming into the picture, people who knew him at Stanford say nothing changed in his tastes.

    • Jimmy3

      I looked it up and there is no record of Jack Nicklass setting a record with 17 slams. Also I’m pretty sure that’s a tennis reference. To hit a grand slam is a thing, winning all four majors in a year. But they call them Majors, not slams.

    • Quick empathy

      WTF?! I must be crowded inside his head.

    • Sherbet

      As a “Yank,” I’m insulted at his flawed “knowledge” of what we think or do or how we connive. Rather, I would be insulted, except for the fact that this poster is obviously unhinged and his theories laughable.

      How did “all the girls come into the picture at a fast rate”? Woods has money, status, and talent, is attractive, and is a horndog who happens to enjoy women.

    • lynn

      to bad he can’t figure out one particular yank who was more than apt in the “art of killing the esteem within one.”

    • JaxNGold

      Jesus. If anyone is in desperate need of meds, it’s this fool.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Silly non-Oatee, anyone who has advance Oatee suppa powers like me can easily see just from that arrest photo that Tiger’s BTs are in complete restim! It’s a wonder that he hasn’t tried to off himself with a seven iron or some such, given how bad of shape he’s in case-wise.

      If we can’t salvage him by getting him into $cn and up the bridge, then the next best thing may be to hire a succession of young and beautiful $cilon girls to give him regular touch assists. There’s no way he’d turn down that sort of help!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    “No doubt you have heard about Dianetics and Scientology” so in the remote chance you are stupid enough to buy this BS, then you’d better make sure to “read it in the privacy of your own home”! BWAHAHAHA!
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73527fcd7ed282cf22ace0c128ba736b86b62b5c14948fcb9514073a53f7ff57.jpg

  • Liberated

    London Bridge is closed down – a van plowed into pedestrians.

    • Graham

      Also reports of gunfire.

      • Liberated

        Now they’re saying stabbings too.

        • Graham

          Another incident nearby in Borough Market.

          ETA: Borough Market is 4 mins walk from London Bridge.

          • Liberated

            Oh my god…how close are you?

            • Graham

              Safe at home in Oxford. Watching things unfold via BBC 24 hr news.

            • Liberated

              Good. Stay safe.

            • Graham

              Police shouting to get people further out of the area, even though the initial incident with the van happened an hour ago.

    • Graham

      23.36 UK time: ‘Donald Trump is being briefed’ which would seem to imply it is a terrorist incident.

      Police searching for 3 suspects possibly armed re the 2 incidents on the bridge and nearby market.

      • Liberated

        Yeah, I heard our pres. has been informed…..I feel so much better !
        eye roll – eye roll.

        • Graham

          A third incident now being reported. No details.

          ETA: Gone midnight here. These incidents are still unfolding. Way past my bed-time so I’m signing off. BBC News giving updates for anyone interested.

        • Sherbet

          Yeah, he’ll jump right into action and Tweet something.

          • Liberated

            Oh sure, he’ll find a way to blame Obama.
            Hope this doesn’t interfere in his golf game, boy will he be mad if he has to leave Mar a lago.

            • Sherbet

              //snicker//

              Except it’s not that funny for us, is it.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • It sucks when you come back and find out that were a Scientologist in your previous life

  • nottrue
    • Sherbet

      I saw two punctuation errors in the letter Gatzke sent to the schools.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sturdy tek iz reeele, gud no?????///???

        • Sherbet

          Itz’ the bestest!

    • Graham

      This assault on Ireland is bizarre given that there are virtually no Scientologists in the country.

      • Ireland is a good base for an EU-wide lobbying effort. I suppose it looks ridiculous when you are promoting an organisation from a country where it has hardly any members. Consequently, you have to at least talk Scientology up to make appear more influential than it is.

        It does make you wonder if they have other motives – but what could they possibly be? The days of ‘safe pointing’ an entire small nation, with the ultimate aim of taking it over, must have died with Hubbard. Surely, only he could be that out of touch with reality – and they have Clearwater, now.

        We may even be entering a period when the organisational collapse has reached a point that the things they do don’t make any sense even in their own terms. – and the danger of that is that they become unpredictable.

        • Graham

          Yes, I did wonder whether they’re trying to use Ireland as a ‘back door’ into the UK and/or Europe.

          “Surely, only he could be that out of touch with reality”. As you’ll recall, it was only a couple of years ago that Slappy Dave gave a big presentation to the sheeple about all the wonderful things which they were doing in Ireland, which bore no relation to reality whatever.

          • I don’t mean the false presentation – it’s possible (but by no means certain) that Miscavige knows what nonsense that really is. I mean whatever cunning plans he thinks he is laying.

            Even Miscavige wouldn’t be deluded enough to think that Ireland would serve as a backup in case the situation in Clearwater changes… would he?

  • balletlady

    About that 500 name list the Judge wants….is Xenu going to be on that list or are intergalactic phone calls prohibited???

    Law Clerk: “Hello Xenu” we are requesting that you…….”

  • $cnMonkeyNut$

    Dear Judge Whittemore, If you are worried about First Amendment issues cramping your ability to rule against this fraudulent organisation, allow me to provide you with a quote from the founder of the ‘religion’, L Ron Hubbard himself:

    “Scientology… is not a religion.” ‘Creation of Human Ability’, 1954, p. 251

    Hope this helps, should defendants again start whining about their ‘religious rights’ being curtailed–their own founder states quite clearly that the nature of their operation is non-religious. I suspect the defendants counsel will soon be needing quite a lot of this… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8fe044eb116fc76a842d0d295fe113fb262aa0fde2c5a423cba0ceac541bc398.jpg … because that’s what their ‘clarification of the court’s opinion’ sounds like to monkey–the waaahmbulance might even need to be called! Should you require any further quotes repudiating Scientology’s status as a religion (there are many), or the actual aims of Scientology (making money only), they are all documented by the ‘church’ as the ‘scripture’ of their ‘Founder’. Quite a lot of them can be found here. Sincerely,monkey.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      How dare you use scientology quotes to tell the truth….you now must study the policy on ‘telling acceptable truths’ and that is simply not acceptable because it is the whole truth.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        But… but… but… there are so many… monkey can’t understand why some aren’t let free, from time to time… I mean, shouldn’t a ‘church’ be proud of it’s flounder’s ‘scriptural’ spoken and written word? Stuff like this:

        “The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly.” L. Ron Hubbard A MANUAL ON THE DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955

        … for example 😉

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          Ahh yes, now I understand why hubbard claimed hisself as ‘mankind’s greatest friend’. It all makes complete and utter ruin to my uniformed belief that hubbard was showing signs of malignant narcissism. Thanks for the ‘cram’
          I have one question though. Is that and the high crime of uhmm criticizing scientology in a court of law, on the newly released, PTS and Justice free course, right after the demand for the 500 list ?
          I know scientology cannot interfere with the selection but they could demand’ emergency right now order’for all members to do the 5 item course within one week. Of course there would be no mention of the Garcia course but rather just a shore story that scientology is being attacked and everyone must know that checksheet item #3 ‘man cannot be trusted with justice’ policy. That way they skirt the direct mention of the Garcia arbitration issue.. Of course, I don’t know of such action as a fact, so it is again supposition speculation on my part but not at all removed from the conniving that goes on my scientology management and so sadly egregious with their hired legal help.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            Happy to help, dchoice ;)Whilst I appreciate that you’re speculating–I don’t think your hypothesis to be beyond the bounds of possibility, given the Co$’s consistently nefarious past behaviour. I would only dispute one thing about the hypothetical ‘PTS and Justice Cramming Course’… there’s no chance anything after the ‘personality test’ would ever be provided by the ‘church’ for free–I reckon it would be at least one intensive at $12,500/intensive!

  • nottrue
    • Sherbet

      A Babtist, huh?

      • Liberated

        Spell much ? Are they intentionally trying to look like idiots ?

        • Sherbet

          And I guess L. Ron was a Babbleist.

    • Observer

      Someone needs to word clear “coolest”

      • EmmaDaoust

        Nothing says elegance like a thumbs up in an evening gown.

    • John McMillan

      I need a shower.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Coolest $cilon Baptist minister? Nope, he’s the ONLY $cn Baptist minister!

  • Gene Trujillo

    I gotta say, Chris Shelton looks a lot better in a 70s denim suit than he did in an SO uniform.

  • Sherbet

    Was Chris Shelton at HowdyCon 2016?

    • BlueHeronBay

      Yes. https://www.flickr.com/photos/132611082@N08/sets/72157669794817636/
      [ETA: Many thanks to AegerPrimo for putting the album together.]

      • Sherbet

        I had forgotten. Thanks. It was fun looking through the pictures. And I loved SugarPlumFairy’s post about being off topic. Miss her. :’-(

        • BlueHeronBay

          Sherb, I realized as soon as I posted that I really don’t have the $#@%!! rank to answer this. I was not there. But I also loved the pictures as they were being shared, and I loved your gift popcorn packs. :-).

          • Sherbet

            Thank you. I wasn’t there, either, so I guess neither of us has the effin’ rank to ask about HowdyCon. Except that this isn’t scientology, so we can ask and say whatever we want!

            • BlueHeronBay

              Thank you.

            • Robert Eckert

              I ate the popcorn, but kept the package for the memory.

            • Sherbet

              That’s so nice! Will you be going this year?

            • Robert Eckert

              wouldn’t miss it!

    • $cnMonkeyNut$
      • Sherbet

        Lookin’ good, monkey! And, oh, yeah, there’s Chris.

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Thanks, Sherb 🙂 (It was great to meet Chris at HC–I’m just sad I can’t make it this year, too.)

          • Observer

            🙁

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Sorry, Observer–unfortunately with the flight prices going up by about 30-40% since the idiotic Brexit nonsense, I just can’t justify the expense… next year, hopefully, I’ll be able to save enough. (Also, slightly busy co-creating and -delivering a course about autism for people on the spectrum and their friends, family and carers–it will end before HowdyCon 2·0, but as the funds aren’t there… yes, 🙁 )

            • Observer

              You will be sorely missed

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank you, Obs–I will miss seeing all of you guys, too–guess I’ll just have to settle for the vicarious Bunker experience this year. Hopefully Shorpy can set up his periscope thingie again! I should have salted enough away to cover the exorbitant air-fares by 2018–I might even try to make a bit more of a trip of it than last time as well, come for a couple of weeks, something like that. Until then, I’ll just be sitting in the jealous corner, over here 😉

            • GfldedKim

              Would love to take that course. Teacher for students on the spectrum.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank you, Gflded–I’m co-producing the course with a mental health professional. The idea is that one of the people delivering the course (me in this case) has lived experience of the condition (I’m on the spectrum) to help the course participants develop strategies to be better able to interact with the world around them. We’re currently half way through, and as it’s the first time we’ve delivered the course, we’re having to design it on the fly! (Got a meeting about the next session on Monday). It’s taking a lot out of me, but if I can help someone then it’s all worth the stress 🙂

            • GfldedKim

              This is so wonderful. Good for you for putting yourself out there to help others! I am sure this will help many. The idea of engaging people and giving them much needed tools for success warms my heart. Thank you for doing this. ❤

          • Sherbet

            I’m sure everyone will be sad you won’t be there. There’s always HowdyCon 2018, wherever that will be.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Very true (and the RL intrusions won’t be as bad as they are at the moment… see my reply to Obs 🙂 )

            • Sherbet

              You have an interesting vocation. Bravo to you.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank you, Sherb–just want to help people 🙂

            • Vaquera

              Austin?!!

            • Kestrel

              That works for me!

            • Vaquera

              So you’re volunteering to be the organizer?

            • Kestrel

              Sadly, I don’t live in Austin and I don’t have the skills at pulling a party together that you do.

            • Vaquera

              I hate throwing parties. I’m always afraid no one will show up. True fax.

            • Kestrel

              I can’t believe anyone would miss one of your parties.

            • Sherbet

              I’m sure the location will be selected by a secret ballot and an ad hoc committee consisting of Tony. Just like this year.

            • Vaquera

              Ya think? The guy does come up good ideas every now and again. 🙂

            • Sherbet

              He sure does.

              Edit: I have two guesses where it will be in 2018.

          • Kestrel

            I’m sorry to hear that.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Me too, mate–hope you guys have a fantastic time… post pics! 🙂

          • Vaquera

            Me, too.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              There’ll be 2018–I’m determined to get to it, now 🙂

          • Baby

            Monkey I will miss you so much..sigh… You were so funny last year. Plus you laughed at my jokes. Now what will I do?

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Sorry, Baby–I’ll be there in spirit 🙂 (and I’m sure you guys will keep the Bunker updated, so I’ll be able to vicariously experience all the fun!)ETA: I’ll have to start saving more up for HC III–not going to miss that!

            • Baby

              Well latch your spirit on to me Monk… I’ll take you everywhere with me.. xoxo Yes start saving. xox love me

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank you, Baby–I know it’ll be loads of fun and hope everyone has a great time… I’ll have to try harder on the selling my body endeavours to get to HC III 😉 (the BigPharma® checks aren’t even keeping me in peanuts any more!) monkey xoxo

            • Baby

              xo

      • downtherabbithole

        Monkey your smile makes me want to hug you (((Monkey)))

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Thanks, rabbit 🙂 hugs to you too (((rabbit)))

      • K2P2(KnitNut)

        Two Awesomes! 🙂

  • downtherabbithole

    Sending prayers to those in London.

    The madness of these events is too much.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Scientology finds itself between a rockslam and a tough judge.

    In the calculus of Scientology, a “Member of Scientology in good standing” cannot but side with the management and dictates of the organization. If a member in ‘good standing’ does not side with the management and dictates of the organization, then he cannot possibly be a member in good standing.

    Should the Judge or his representative contact someone on the list of “Members in good standing” that has been provided, there are a number of possible outcomes:

    The contacted “member in good standing” has been prepared by agents of the organization to agree to be an arbitrator for the judge, knows what is expected by the organization and is prepared to rule for the organization regardless of the evidence presented, knowing that the organization will cause them to “lose eternity” if the member votes against the organization. They will be prepared to lie to the clerks or the judge to ensure their selection as one of the arbiters.

    The contacted “member in good standing” has no foreknowledge of the contact and discovers at the moment of the call that a Judge proposes to conduct an arbitration that could go against the organization. Knowing that Scientology policy prohibits “standing in judgement of Scientology” the member refuses and hangs up. A microsecond later they are on the phone to OSA or their Ethics Officer shouting WTF? And gets pulled in to be quieted about it.

    The contacted “member in good standing” is really a lapsed member, under the radar or generally disgruntled about Scientology. They may agree to be an arbiter, but cannot do so and retain their UTR posture. They likely know about the lawsuit, but may refuse in fear of losing contact with family members still in the organization via the practice of ‘disconnection.’ So will probably refuse.

    The contacted “member in good standing” is really no longer a Scientologist and has been contemplating what they can do about the toxic organization. They will agree to be an arbitrator because this gives them a chance to strike a blow against the organization. They probably don’t have many family or friends still in, so disconnection is not the something that haunts them.

    Scientology knows that “members in good standing” will refuse out of hand if contacted by the Judge without preparation by ethics officers or OSA. They cannot know all the ‘under the radar’ members in the L.A. area, but will have, in violation of the Judges requirement, not faithfully selected the ones on the list “at random” but rather through close inspection of staff and public ethics and auditing history and interrogation of staff members who have interacted with public over the years. Anyone that Scientology thinks *might* be UTR will have been kept off the list given to the judge. But they cannot be sure. To comply fully with the judges order will completely insure that only “don’t give a fuck under the radar Scientologists” will be selected as arbiters.

    Anyone that Scientology is unsure of complete loyalty will likely be off the list. In addition, any that ARE on the list will likely have family members and friends or employers that can exert pressure, some kind of personal leverage through disconnection or disclosure of disreputable withholds (crimes) in Scientology’s archives.

    So: Scientology tries to further game the system by helpfully including for the judge a letter from the IJC preemptively giving Scientologists leave to agree to be arbiters, and inviting the urgently necessary contact with IJC so that they can be ‘hatted’ on their duty to rule against the Garcias in the arbitration.

    This reveals so much. Scientology is desperate, desperate enough to violate the Judges orders and stack the deck against the Garcias.

    And there is another wild variable in this case: The chance that being a part of the Garcias arbitration will expose members in good standing to unjust and fraudulent practices of Scientology of which they had no knowledge. So there will be some kind of leverage against every Scientologist on the list.

    The Judge or Clerk could estimate the nature and breadth of this manipulation by contacting EVERYONE on the list and asking them, under oath and penalty of perjury, quite complete questions about their history in Scientology, family connections, former staff membership, previous trouble with the organization, debts, advancement in the organization, etc.

    I am betting that there will be NO “Scientologists in good standing” on the list that can be trusted to give a balanced arbitration based on the evidence, and that Scientology’s attempted manipulation of the process will stand out for the cynical totalitarian self-important asshattery that is their wont.

    • Kestrel

      The process to find “Scientologists in good standing” who are willing to participate in the arbitration may be a key indicator. The judge and his staff may realize that no person submitting themselves to the Cof$ arbitration process has any chance of reaching a fair conclusion.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “If a member in ‘good standing’ does not side with the management and
      dictates of the organization, then he cannot possibly be a member in
      good standing.”

      Elron explicitly forbade it and it’s such a serious high crime within the cherch that SP declare and expulsion would be the certain penalty.

      But imagine how confused and frightened that rank-and-file $cilons will feel if they get cold called by the court’s clerks without first being notified and told what to do by lil davey’s minions!

      $cilons know that thinking or acting in any other way than abject submission and unquestioning obedience will bring the pain, so they’ve been very well conditioned not to do it.

      No $cilon who wishes to remain in good standing with the cherch would ever even consider agreeing to become an arbitration board member without the express permission of one of lil davey’s hench toads.

      In $cn, the words “fair,” “impartial” and “unbiased” have no real meaning; there’s only Elron’s Way or the highway.

  • OT: Meme the Cat got another bird for me today… It looks dead but it’s unharmed and i put it outside in a empty birds-nest and checked it some hours ago, where it was sitting on the edge and lurking. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bf35006f43e42b46d65358e4582979b7dc480ffe5fc959b017996021ac68acf.jpg

    • Puget Buckeye

      Perhaps plotting revenge against Meme?

    • PeaceMaker

      If your cat is an outdoors cat, I think that the research indicates that they kill something like two for everyone one they bring home as a trophy. One of several reasons that, unfortunately, it’s better to keep our feline friends indoors. The last determinedly outdoors cat that we had, only lived about 3 years after we adopted her as a young cat. I invested in an outdoor enclosure for the ones we have now, so that they can get their taste of the wild without risk of doing harm or being harmed.

      • Yeah i though about that… We live in a city but when i start seeing feathers around the block i might have to do something. :-O
        eta: especially here when the birds are chicks and they are easy pray

  • outraged

    I have the feeling Scientology is not welcomed in NYC.
    And New Yawkers have no need for body routers.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Observer

      Emily, nooooo! Take a break, walk out of there, and just keep going…

      • Marshall

        I was thinking the same thing – I hate seeing Emily there. Makes my heart ache for Phil and Willie.

    • GfldedKim

      She looks exhausted..😢

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      It is not “real,” in that the Hubbardian idea of “clusters” actually exist or that “cumulative clusters” actually
      exist.

      What is real, is that Hubbard actually wrote this fucked-up imaginary nonsense and sold it to his followers as if it were real.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Why does it say “1898-Impact Horse Accident”? That’s odd.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Trying to make an example for the student: In the accident with the horse, the force of the accident pushed some already existing clusters of body thetans into a new larger cluster that take their identity from this new incident. It’s a cluster identified by 1898 horse accident, but the component clusters might have previously identified by “civil war cannon explosion” and “Pyrrhic Victory at Marathon, two separate previous incidents.

        • Puget Buckeye

          I’m going to thank you for answering my question. But you just made my head hurt. Just when I think it can’t get any weirder.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            There is no end to Scientology weirdness. They have monetized weird.

            It’s just turtles all the way down.

      • TexasBroad
    • EmmaDaoust

      “Where two or more body clusters are gathered in my name…”

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Compared to LRH’s lunacy, Santa making the rounds in June doesn’t seem the least bit crazy. I’d like to overhear that conversation though 😉
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/480bf31f2e9774f0c1cc80caffd08f4b0637402f247c09cfc6abfe46ffd54373.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3706473326dc172ea0153fe20ba56cbdc3cc18edfefe5f21b2200452df127757.jpg

  • lori banister

    To all of our fellow bunker friends in the UK-I’m so sorry your country is under such attack. Blessings and love to you all.

    • Ann B Watson

      Thank you Lori. Please to all fellow Bunker friends in the U.K. all in my thoughts and prayers. Stay Safe & Love to you all. 💛

  • Opticheart

    Why does the court have to abide by Scientology rules? Jewish women have to obain a Get or Gett to be divorced but the divorce still has to be sanctioned by the legal system. Muslims may wish for or want to abide by Sharia law but there is no Sharia law in the US and honour killings are rife in different cultures but illegal. Mormon’s use to have polygamy until the main church disavowed it. It is still illegal to be “legally” married to more than one spouse. So why can’t Scientology bend to the legal system like other religions have?

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    I think the Judge is going to react thusly:

    He will reject Scientology’s efforts to game the arbitration by having the Judge provide some false “IJC authorization” to the “members in good standing” he contacts.

    He will then contact the “members in good standing” on the list provided by Scientology, and will rapidly discover by their reactions that either they have been pre-contacted either individually or broadly by Scientology against his ruling or are so suspicious of the contact and aware of the Scientology policy about “sitting in judgement of Scientology” that they will refuse and then contact Scientology to find out WTF is going on.

    In any event, the Judge will discover that, as the Garcias have stated, it truly is completely impossible to have a fair arbitration in Scientology. Thus he will rule that arbitration within Scientology is factually non-existent and that documents signed that require such arbitrations are a fraud.

    Then the trial will be restarted and Scientology will settle with the Garcias, having wasted everyones time and money.

    • Puget Buckeye

      I hope you’re correct and I can see those steps definitely happening. The most important thing to me in your scenario is the judge ruling that the arbitration is non-existent and the signed documents are a fraud. To me, that sets a very very damaging precedent. That would open the door for others who want to file a suit but have been holding off for fear of the arbitration.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Then the trial will be restarted and Scientology will settle with the Garcias, having wasted everyones time and money”…except for the cult’s lawyers, who’ve been chortling quietly to themselves in suppressed glee ever since the whole ordeal began as they count their fat stacks of $cn blood money.

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        And since scientology doesn’t have a heart it pumps, powered by an fiduciary extortion machine commonly known as registrars, blood through its piping into hidden foreign accounts per the advice of the Panama entity guiding SOR. I’ll try to recover the document showing this.

    • “the Judge will discover that, as the Garcias have stated, it truly is completely impossible to have a fair arbitration in Scientology. ”
      I believe he knew this, and let them prove it on the record.
      Rope. Enough.

      • Baby

        My thoughts also Shorp..

  • AntoniaW

    O/T, and nothing like as important as the excellent Garcia case developments, but: here in the windswept Tropical Paradise of North Cornwall, our favourite clams Mappin, Mappinova & Stourton continue to exercise The Tech in the running of their hotel business:

    ““please please stay away”
    Reviewed 2 days ago NEW
    I am shocked…and disturbed…by my stay here.
    Filthy…disgraceful…and downright scary..
    I will update a more comprehensive review when I have recovered from my ordeal.
    I will never return…or recommend this hell hole to anyone.
    If anyone chooses to believe the wonderful reviews…good luck.” https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186245-d227560-r489649680-Camelot_Castle_Hotel-Tintagel_Cornwall_England.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT

    – I can’t wait to see whether the poor customer recovers sufficiently to post a more comprehensive account.

    • EmmaDaoust

      I love the obviously planted reviews. “We weren’t forced to buy Stourton’s lovely poppy paintings, we would have bought them if we had seen them elsewhere.”

    • Baby

      ” Perhaps you could reclaim the cost of your stay through the small claims court, especially if you explain you were wrongly threatened with arrest.”
      ………………………….
      This was an answer to a question..but couldn’t find the question Antonia..ha..

    • Graham

      Keep us updated Antonia!

  • sizzle8

    Didn’t the judge specifically say that he didn’t want scientologists employed by the organization?

    • Kestrel

      I don’t think he said that. I think he wanted it noted which of the 500 were employees.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      And does including “Field Staff Members” go against including those being employed by Scientology.

      Because almost ALL Scientologists have been field staff members at some point.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Actually, the Judge could call me.

    I’m still in good standing. I have over $32,000 in my IAS account, I have my card and I have never been informed I am not in good standing.

    I think that if they want me not to be in good standing they have to refund my IAS payments.

    Fair is fair.

    ETA: I think that would be a great ruling. That if Scientology or the IAS retains any moneys donated for membership status, then that person is still in good standing and can be an arbitrator in this case.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Now, wouldn’t that be a hoot!

    • Kestrel

      Do you live in the greater LA area? You could already be on the list!

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Alas, I am not. But I could imagine that he might search further afield.

    • Sherbet

      $32,000? My hope and wish is that the Garcia case helps free up the money the church is hanging onto and that people like you will get a refund. Not tomorrow or in 3 months, but eventually.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        They could also throw in the $14,000 I have never used on account for services and the balance of almost $200,000 they defrauded me of over 27 years.

        Or Miscavige can give me a pound of his flesh. I get to choose which pound.

        • Sherbet

          I’m so, so sorry. Probably not as sorry as you are. I hope there will be recourse.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Makes incredibly simple and logical sense!

      Speaking of money on account with the cult, I wonder how much the actual total is vs. how much they’d report if forced to?

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        I have seen one estimate as it being in the 100’s of millions of USD.

    • Graham

      Have you suggested this to the Garcias?

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      But wait. Did DM call you and ask you if you would help keep him out of jail by using perjury? I didn’t think so. So that is the prerequisite to be in good standing and ‘randomly chosen’ for the non random list.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    You think I could get the Judge to attach my “Doubt Formula” to that letter? Just as a favor?

  • TheCommodeDoor

    (yes you are….)

    https://youtu.be/oy1N3ntOoNc

  • outraged

    Scientology to Judge:
    “You think we are PEOPLE?”

  • This case keeps developing into ever more fascinating legal chess game. I hope real Judge will win.

    • Disingenuous Malfeasant

      Do you think real Judge will call the same scienos after the “arbitration” to see if they are still in good standing? Would seem a diligent step all things considered.

  • Baby

    I have company ( again) . .. so will be just zooming in and out. Don’t want to ignore my guests.

    See some of you at HC.. Yay.

    • Song translation:

      The Sound of Sunday

      I’ve seen lonely people carry on, you know
      You go between ruins and dreams of people that hope
      You know about me, I know about you
      But where is the sound of Sunday?

      In my country I can see grain flourishing
      With arms stretched To the eternity

      My country…

      I’ve seen skies full of misery, you know

      And I’ve seen fake faiths make just trouble
      What do you know about us? What do you know about me?

      But where is the sound of Sunday?

      In my country I can see mowing the grain
      With hands stretched To the eternity

      My country…

      I’ll leave you a smile, goodbye
      And a new anger in the face, goodbye

      The tenderness that, goodbye
      Makes the heart in my throat to me

      In my country The grain is still yellow

      With arms stretched

      To the eternity

      My country…

      In my country

      I can see good flourishing

      Taken beatings

      Have never been rendered

      In my country…

      Which sound makes the Sunday in your place?

  • John McMillan

    Each and every time DM makes another dumb ass move like this, I can hear his lawyers chuckling with delight in the background as they contemplate more lawsuits coming their way.

    • Noesis

      Scientology is a great client – almost limitless money, a philosophical bent toward billable hours and a business venture that is a virtual crime wave of torts and extortions.

      It’s a defense attorney’s wet dream.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Cash cow.

    • chukicita

      I feel the wind from 47 million blinks. Hurricane season’s here.

  • Fink Jonas

    The control machine reveals itself. Everyone is under the church’s control on this one, even the judge, but he has shown he is awake enough to fight back.
    Question when people achieve OT8 or even the state of Clear, do they ask themselves , is this what I was expecting? Or do they just buy it regardless?

    • John McMillan

      I think it depends to what degree they have been hypnotized.

    • Liberated

      Buy it just regardless.
      It’s the only game in town, or so they think.

    • Noesis

      Almost every Scientologist I knew, including myself, doubted the “results” they achieved when they attested to Clear and other upper grade chart “states of being”, but assumed they were an anomaly and that everyone else got the “real” gains.

      This phenomenon has been associated with the idea of pluralistic ignorance and is heavily suppressed by people still involved in Scientology because to admit doubt is to subject oneself to abusive ethics and peer pressure.

      Once one gets away from “the bridge to total freedom” and has the actual freedom to discuss their real Scientology experience with others, they learn that all of the people they used to think were doing great felt just like they did, but were afraid to say so (until after they left.)

      Lol.

      • The same goes for ‘Ideal Orgs’ (and the less-than-ideal ones, for that matter).

        Everyone thinks that it’s only their org which is empty and failing, and all the others are ‘booming’. because they have only seen their own, and believe the Scientology propaganda. In actual fact, they are all empty, and everyone in them thinks that this is, uniquely, their fault.

      • Fink Jonas

        Perfect thank you , I learned something new, “pluralistic ignorance ” fits the bill

    • Puget Buckeye

      I think that’s beautiful. Thank you.

    • Lolow 0708

      I’m almost finished reading A Piece of Blue Sky. Great read. Slightly o/t but next week James Corden (Late Late Show) is airing three nights filmed in his home country of England. Among his guests are Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Ed Sheeran (the ones I remember). I have never liked Tom Cruise and like him a lot less since following these blogs. While I wouldn’t pay to go see him, I admit to being a bit curious as to what he will do. He’s using his new movie junket to announce the new Top Gun 2. That’s 2 Top Guns I’ll never see. Bah humbug!!!

  • outraged

    Knew that Miscavige mugshot reminded me of someone.
    Am I the only one who sees the resemblance?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b00f903c88ac8bdde7494da8f48a4b13bb878e303c6e11424bad4f5ad567209.png

    • cactusflower67

      An unfair comparison and an insult to the memory of Roald Dahl and Gene Wilder.

  • Baby

    NIGHT ALL.. lots of love…
    Judge to Scientologists:

  • Baby

    I had no idea about London.. until I came here. I was relaxing reading a book..

    Absolutely Tragic. OMG… I am getting sick of these terrorists .. SICK.

  • iampissed
  • It’s so unfortunate that the transcripts of the Ontario Snow White case have never made it to the net. (The last time I looked into it, it would have been complicated and expensive.)

    Group not part of church trial told June 3, 1992, Toronto Star

    The Guardian’s Office violated the teachings of Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and thereby became “something different and distinct,” Rinder told Mr. Justice James Southey, of Ontario Court, general division.

    By 1973, when Rinder joined the Sea Organization – the elite group that runs the church – the Guardian’s Office did not answer to any part of the church, he said.

    Rinder was a member of a team sent in 1981 to the world headquarters of the Guardian’s Office in East Grinstead, England, he said. The team was to clean up the office’s management practices and ethics, Rinder testified.

    Heh, of course the Guardian’s Office didn’t answer to anyone (except Hubbard), they were the management of Scientology.

  • John Prince

    So. .captain pissypants says to Federal Judge “You’re not Competent to deal with our “Religion” ..leave that to us experts ” 🤓 I’m anxious to see how religiony Judge Whittmore’s response might be 😒

    • Puget Buckeye

      I think the judge is getting pretty fed up with the church. He’s already said fine, this has gone on too long, give me a list of 500. Now the church has the chutzpah to recommend a letter from the IJC? Hey DM, not a smart move, pissing off a judge.

    • John Prince

      “FAR beyond the competence of this OR ANY OTHER COURT”. .to quote the captain “ganz genau”《exactly》
      I like tossing in a German term now and then ’cause We’re such scientology fans over here 😅😂😎

  • GrangerFX
    • Kimmy3

      Oh how religious and scholarly of him.

    • cactusflower67

      At least he’s right about something. A rare moment for him.

  • Shivani33

    I just ran across today’s show hosted by Graham Norton, and Tom Cruise was a guest. Norton showed a photo of Cruise in a car with the politician, Jeremy Corbyn. The snap was taken when Corbyn’s car hit a reporter, apparently. Not surprisingly, Cruise turned Norton’s questions about it into a joke.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Wait, Cruise JOKED about someone getting hit by a car?!? Did he get out to help? Because you know, he’s the only one who can.

      • Shivani33

        I can’t stomach watching him and only read about it, but the impression that I got was that Cruise wanted to avoid the topic of being in a car with Corbyn and tried to use hahaha as a distraction. He is distinctly more comfortable across the pond, where he hasn’t gone apeshit on tv and where people don’t ask him about Matt Lauer, Oprah’s couch and “have you seen Suri?”

      • Graham

        I think the car accidentally ran over a camera-man’s foot.

  • VIDEO – NBC Nightly News: Fight Over Land in Florida Between Church of Scientology and City

    http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/fight-over-land-in-florida-between-church-of-scientology-and-city-959623235696

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  • TheLurkingHorror

    Seven days without electricity. It feels good to prop my feet up back here in the bunker again. 🙂

    Heartfelt condolences to our British friends. I so wish the madness would end.

    • JaxNGold

      Yikes. Why so long without electricity? If you don’t mind me asking…

      • TheLurkingHorror

        WInd storm blew through last Saturday night. I think I heard there were around 190,000 people without power. It’s taken a long time to restore power and there are still a few thousand (I think) whose power still hasn’t been restored. But, it could have been worse, it could have been July. 🙂

        • Robert Eckert

          We endured that in March, when it got cold.

        • I was going to ask also. For a moment I thought perhapes you are a Thousand Trails member.

        • JaxNGold

          Damn. Glad all is well now. It’s funny how we take electricity for granted. Yesterday our power was out for a whopping 2 hours (lol) because a power line was being repaired. Felt like forever. My 4 yr old kept asking me why the lights didn’t work and he was flipping switches all around the house trying to get them to work.

  • Charles Eichelberger

    So does anyone think I should put out a welcome sign like “Welcome Office of Special Affairs”? Or maybe the disconnection sign? I really want to give them a proper welcome.

  • OOkpik

    To all the bereaved, injured and frightened people of London today, I send “prayers” for you from Canada. I hope you find strength and comfort in the kindness of friends, loved ones and strangers alike.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9520806989c2904b2eb9a6d54f1a8e8ed4b640afa8a6773a0c1fbd162d0ac39.gif

    • TheKremlinCandidate

      Ramadan Bomb-a-thon… are we really surprised?

      Please… lots more to come. Buckle up, liberals.

    • Newiga

      < / 3 Sweet London.

    • Oh dear. I don’t have radio or TV. I only head the local coyotes steeling a yard dog. I’m so away. Seems to be the only way I can have time to think. I think now. That is something that never used to happen under LRH rule.

  • Bert Allen

    The proposed letter will not be acceptable to the Judge for the obvious reason that if the recipients follow the directions in the letter the COS can then vet each one before instructing him/her on what each’s response is, “Yes” or “No.” Thereby insuring a finding for Defendant in the arbitration.

  • Phatpharm

    I know I’m a day late with this post. I don’t know law very well so I have to ask this question. Can a “contract” be legal if it is proven there is no way for it to actually be executed. It would seem that Scientology kind of rushes people to sign things with out really allowing someone to be represented by someone on the parishioner’s side. It seems like a contract that could never be fulfilled. Is our law system that broken? It would seem that Scientology is proving that the Garcia’s have a legitimate complaint. I just don’t see how the legal system is just not tired of theses games that waste time and resources.

  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .

    “Scientology parishioners “ ROFL! That always cracks me up. 🙂 As if the Gambino Mafia has “parishioners.” LOL.

    • Phatpharm

      Sorry it’s the Christian ingrained in me. It was the only word I could think of because I’m tired.

  • littlefish

    I wanna kick that guy right in the teeth for preying on Portland.

  • Kaarli Makela

    I say it again and again ..
    Rule ONE is Don’t Piss Off The Judge!
    Always …
    DMs lawyer must have bought himself a box of Depend undergarments, where normally that would not be a consideration.
    SO … regarding:
    “Defendants have expressed to the Court their concerns that direct contact to Scientology parishioners from a civil court about Scientology justice proceedings may cause alarm of such individuals, who did not assume their identities and contact information would be disclosed to a court without notice … ”
    AND:
    ” … parishioners may raise questions about such contacts with appropriate Church officials … may decline to discuss the matter until contacting such persons.”

    As a former Paralegal, I am just a second guesser, but I can picture these things jumping off the paper to the Judge.
    “NOTICE” is a Legal Term, and is easily satisfied by Publication parameters set by Law for all Legal Notices. BTW, that would be well served through the many publications and communication systems the church has at its disposal. While they’re at it … the ‘appropriate church officials’ could add to this Legal notice that there would be an Amnesty of Confession for any and all participants who are called. In fact that might be a legal requirement the church has no choice BUT to add.

  • richelieu jr

    Hey, I know that new Scilon Office Building, and what is more ( seriously, this is too good to be true, but it is!), my GF used to call it “The Death Star” or, alternatively, “The Venturan Death Star: Home of Vedet’s Personal Imperial Accountants and, Anne D. D’entité, dds”, as in, head up towards Santa Barbara, though the Orange groves to the south towards Oxnard, and it you reach the Death Star, The I have a very bad feeling about…. your sense if direction..” (chuckle-chuckle, hardy har-har!)

    But when I saw it ( this may even be on Video, I will look, I said,

    ´ That’s no moon.. it’s a space station….´
    GF, ´Some sort of… Star of.. Death..?´
    Moi, ´ Si l’on veut… but .. that’s no Death Star, it is t even round..
    Look at those harsh angles! But it’s no Borg cube, more like a bunch of 1950’s Borg wannabes (I lay be adding a bit of colour and dialog here, sorry ;-)), “Resistance is.. fu– fut– fu… few, few, really very few people do not, bè aise you know.. the Net, common sense, our strange dialect, hungry car-salesmen hard sell , and that thousand-yard stare that even Jim Jones was smart enough to put on some Gaddhaffi-Duck glasses to hide…

    That’s no Death Star, l’y dear… Scilon BaseStar!”

    And so it turns out to have been!

    I am like some fucking modern NostrilDamnUs, You guys !

    Respect!

    (Quickly, before a bunch of little Bastardian Sci-ons come swarming out handing us home-made pamphlets!)