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Around the globe, Scientology relies on guys like this to promote L. Ron Hubbard to your kids

 
Rod Keller keeps a vigilant watch over Scientology sneaky front groups, and takes us around the world this time…

A new flier from Foundation for a Drug Free World quotes four local officials from four areas of the world in support of the distribution of Scientology’s drug education booklets. Attempts to reach the officials for comment were not successful, but we do know about some of Scientology’s activities in these areas. Scientology uses a variety of tactics in these countries to promote their anti-drug message and to gain allies for future expansion or orgs and missions.

 

 
Eastern Cape is one of the nine provinces of South Africa and both Eastern and Western Cape are the territory of Robert Van Der Feyst (see above), a one-man touring drug education campaign in local schools. There is little doubt that the quote from the Department of Education was elicited through one of his talks. Van Der Feyst speaks under the banners of several Scientology front groups. He is Narconon, he is the Foundation for a Drug-Free World, and he is The Way to Happiness. In most countries Narconon runs drug rehab centers while the Foundation for a Drug Free World does education. Since the Cape Town Narconon closed many years ago, Van Der Feyst is an independent operator, and is the sole presence of Narconon in southern South Africa.

 

[Van Der Feyst speaking for the Foundation for a Drug-Free World, May 2016]

 

[Representing Narconon and The Way to Happiness, March 2017]

 

[Locational Assist training, May 2017]

 
We asked Shelley Ashurst, a former Scientologist and staff member in Johannesburg, to explain the photo of Van Der Feyst training students to perform Locational Assists.

That’s straight Scientology auditing and has nothing to do with anti-drug lectures. That assist is not a locational assist – it’s what’s called a Havingness Assist, and the commands are all wrong. It’s squirrel tech. The havingness assist is very often run on a PC after an auditing session. The basic theory is that the PC has “blown” (lost) charge on his case and that process is run to rehabilitate his “havingness” after a session. This guy is being subtly indoctrinated into SCN without knowing it.

A locational assist consists of the auditor pointing out various objects in the PCs surroundings and getting him or her to look at these things until there is a change or improvement in the PC. A locational is run on anyone who is highly agitated, very upset, drunk, emotional etc. Very often such a person is considered “not in Present Time” (out of PT) and a locational assist is run in order “to bring the person into PT.”

Scientology doesn’t appear to be upset about the use of squirrel tech in South Africa. The photos are posted on a Narconon Facebook page available to all users.

Alifereti Naqeleca Waqa fills a similar role in New Zealand. The native of Fiji is on staff at the new Auckland Ideal Org where he runs the Volunteer Ministers, Youth for Human Rights, and the local branch of the Foundation for a Drug Free World. Rather than visit schools, in New Zealand Scientology relies on literature tables at public parks and markets. The quote on the flyer from a member of the New Zealand Parliament likely comes from one of Waqa’s events. The Mangere area is a suburb of Auckland, and has been represented in Parliament by William Sio since 2008.

 

 
Tunbridge Wells is a borough in Kent, England close to Scientology’s Saint Hill facility in East Grinstead. Drug education out of Saint Hill features the Jive Aces, Scientology’s swing band. The tactic in England is to engage local politicians directly. Band members posed with East Grinstead mayor Dick Sweatman as he signs a drug free pledge in March, 2016.

 

 
Adrian Hayman is one of the Saint Hill volunteers, seen below with his Foundation for a Drug Free World motorcycle. The quote on the flier apparently comes from one of the 48 borough councilors for Tunbridge Wells, probably in connection with a Jive Aces event.

 

 
Scientology in Panama is represented by a small mission. We were unable to locate the Department of Curriculum and Educational Technology, but the quote was most likely solicited by Foundation for a Drug Free World volunteer Jorge Gianareas, below.

 

 
— Rod Keller

 
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NBC proves that it still has no idea when it comes to Scientology

On Wednesday we told you to expect the big national networks to get into the Clearwater land story because it was so easy for them — a public land purchase, public records, and officials willing to go on the record.

Cleveland Street tavernkeeper Clay Irwin told us he was interviewed by NBC’s Lester Holt for what he thought would be a segment on Dateline. Instead, what aired was a 2-minute piece on the nightly news about the land deal. Irwin didn’t make the cut.

But that’s not why he’s fuming mad after it aired. What bugs him is that NBC somehow flipped the script to make Scientology not the bully in the story, but the victim. Here, take a look…

 

 
With help from Scientology attorney Monique Yingling, the network framed the story as one of Scientology being discriminated against when its huge $15 million offer for a piece of dirt was ignored. What the network didn’t tell you is that the Clearwater Marine Aquarium’s plans to use that land for a downtown expansion was undermined by the church. That’s why the aquarium had a vacant lot to sell, because Scientology had gone out of its way to ruin the aquarium’s hard work to make a downtown wing happen.

And that’s why, anyone should be able to see, that the aquarium was not interested in rewarding Scientology for its bullying behavior by handing over that prime piece of real estate to the church. Not when the city had plans for it that might actually, all these years after Scientology’s original underhanded invasion, begin to resuscitate the dead downtown.

The aquarium, by selling that parcel to the city for its assessed value ($4.25 million) stood up for the people of Clearwater and spurned Scientology’s $15 million offer for what would be another off-limits crowd-killer.

How do you turn that story into one in which Scientology was victimized by discrimination? Apparently, some networks are still shitting their pants when it comes to covering the Church of Scientology. What a shame.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Several readers forwarded us links to a story in Australia about Scientology finally giving up on its attempt to open a new Narconon drug rehab center in Yarramalong, where the church’s plan ran into stiff opposition from locals. Scientology’s property-buying arm has put a parcel it paid AUS $3.8 million up for $4 million after giving up hope on overcoming that local pushback. That seems like good news for people in Maryland who are opposed to a similar plan there, where Scientology paid about $5 million for a parcel that it has been unable, so far, to get a zoning ruling it needs to open a rehab. Could the church be forced to sell there, too? We asked our man Down Under, Bryan Seymour, for his thoughts on what happened in Yarramalong.

“A tiny community and their council won. When they challenged Scientology directly and rejected their celebrity enticement, they then defended their decision before the Land and Environment Court — and Scientology lost,” Bryan says. “Scientology will try again — they have $3 billion war chest. But the press here will be watching.”

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,771 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,528 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,874 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,368 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,408 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,120 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 646 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,735 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,875 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,195 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,170 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 526 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,828 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 935 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,337 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,210 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 791 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,296 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,540 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,649 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 4, 2017 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Graham

    “Adrian Hayman is one of the Saint Hill volunteers, seen below with his Foundation for a Drug Free World motorcycle. The quote on the flier…..” I can’t see a flyer? Just some guy standing next to a motorbike with “DRUGS” written on it.

    • Tony Ortega

      The flier that appeared at the beginning of the story.

      • Graham

        Ah thanks. Yes I see it now. I see the devious crooks never actually state the name of the person who is supposedly quoted.

  • Robert Hanna Moore

    Thanks, NBC, you’ve validated the millions of concerned citizens who now get their news from sources like Tony.

    • Night Nurse

      And there is more of us here, every day.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Missions? Impossible
    Post # 54 in an ongoing series and hey,
    you’ve guessed it – we have found yet another Cleared state.

    For Salin … here ya go 🙂
    Not as pretty as the Aurora Borealis, but it sure shimmers and shines.

    Indiana
    A saga of several attempts, all doomed, to provide Indianapolis and/or Anderson
    (about 40 miles to the North East) with a Mission.
    Here they are in alphabetical, not chronological, order.

    Media exposure has been devastating here also, even several years ago:
    Watch Tommy Davis lie about numbers here.
    You should gimme a call, Tommy – I have some real #’s for ya.
    You shouldn’t have dripped outta college – you might have learned to count, finally:
    http://www.indianapolisrecorder.com/religion/article_1275f068-144d-58c1-9f19-df237af55c5d.html

    The first Mission of Anderson, operational from 1975 to 1989, is closed
    https://indianadb.com/company/113746/church-of-scientology-mission-of-anderson-incorporat.html

    Marlene Palmer was the Mission holder.
    Rex Layton, now 64 and living in Lapel, In., was the secretary.
    He is also a pulp-fiction aficionado:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RDr1Z3RszdQ

    And then the next Mission of Anderson, with Maggie Jerrim running it, closed again.

    Mission of Indianapolis – closed several times:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57905f3a6eec33f0712798efae182af540e5763a0fbdce67da99a29d859dcae3.jpg
    It was listed in “What Is Scientology” in 1979 as being at

    3848 North Pennsylvania,
    Indianapolis

    a private residence:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86d15b23945a14ea68c14ee5bce04024dae87990d0c6a0dabf6a2f81760ddfb1.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff3aa1a9d9a9f2414a08f72b63b619f9df18ab43c3f07c87ce319fe5b2fca41e.jpg

    It was then listed for the IRS in 1993 as being 40 miles away at
    109 East 9th St.,
    Anderson,
    Indiana
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/987df3af7ccba0f741388d7365082f7f7a1ef0bcf907f312ac935b5f58f4c59d.jpg

    and a more recent variant of the Mission of Indianapolis (2009-2013) closed again:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd1e22ae20f2201f026a582c5600c5a5d088ea3751fd9df9f2e2fbd7311c6baf.jpg
    Now it was located at 6451 Rockville, Indianapolis, a private residence
    and at
    3921 N. Pennsylvania,
    Indianapolis
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a989252d4cfb071f3faadd30a1eb3252bab4d4699b6144f047769c16227f4ab.jpg
    another private residence

    OT VII James R Speiser was Mission holder this time around
    (he’s the one with the glasses):
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1dca220d432c9b836c6de2b0593486e9c8a3db09653fa92ba0e85cbe3ed13a4b.jpg
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/james-r.-speiser.html
    He’s a veterinarian (chiros, dentists and vets, eh?) and Sterling Management Wise guy:
    http://practice-management.sterlingdvm.com/content/james-r-speiser-dvm

    He is also on the OT Committee at Cincinnati’s Ideal Org:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/936112afce199daf49df0a91ee36f94806727b3dadb0f64e7ff056f0ddfc86b6.jpg

    The Mission of Greater Indianapolis, operational from 1989 to 1997, is closed
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a55cb0bf36b5c82755ab843fcfbdbf55696de7c58b0f07080fe6b091726c995.jpg
    Larry Jerrim, headlight designer, now aged 67, was Mission holder and ran it
    while his wife Martha (Maggie), now 59, ran the Mission of Anderson (phase 2)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3c3b8b75e6acb28dd7ed174f924bb5dbe4de0b9a3db6d163d4db27da24bd5d5.jpg
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/l/larry-jerrim.html

    Watch Mr. Jerrim and that “nice man” Heber lie about a lawsuit in the following article.
    And, yes, they do reveal medical details from one of those oh so sacrosanct priest-penitent
    confidential PC folders. Tsk tsk.
    A dentist (yet another) and his wife got conned but sued and won:
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library-item.php?iid=3380

    Or see here, as they deal with the fallout from Time magazine and Behar in 1991:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d51ce2d5755e6fc0aa21203d4841741a8e7d18066c56cb95c311dc4339c48a90.jpg
    From much more, here:
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/images/thecompiler-1991a-11.pdf#page=1

    Mission of South Indianapolis (existing from 2005 to 2008) is closed.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c337de841630b0f88cd05a37b537acccaad0ff4c9f520f33edb0967b98ce338f.jpg
    Speiser was joined in this particular failure by Ernest Lehman in his dotage – briefly.
    The famous screenwriter (The Sound of Music, The King and I, West Side Story, North By Northwest)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Lehman
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/e/ernest-lehman.html
    died shortly after the Mission opened.

    Speiser was also joined in the venture by Carl Smudde, dentist and OT VIII:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0dbfe303f6a2692a938f69811e5170b8f99173f359f9d2bb34593c127946433c.jpg
    He’s the one with the glasses.
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/c/carl-smudde.html
    I believe he was a good dentist and a kind man.
    He was also perhaps the largest contributor to fund the creation of the Cinncinnati Ideal Org
    (per a Bunkeroo, on another forum)

    Mr. Smudde died of cancer, aged 66, in 2012.
    He was buried in a Catholic ceremony while still a $cientologist.
    http://www.tribstar.com/obituaries/dr-carl-a-smudde/article_c697a2cb-6dab-58e9-9151-de5dcfe9b5ef.html
    He may not have heard that Jesus was an implant.
    Or, perhaps, he found solace in Jesus as his death neared?
    Xenu seems a little more, er, clinical, DC8s, inexistent volcanoes and all that bosh.

    No Missions left to close.
    Indiana is Clear.

    And that brings us right up to 24 states without a single Mission.
    Straight up and vertigo 🙂
    47X

    Missions Haiku
    Apple blossoms fall –
    Confetti at the wedding
    Of lilac and gale.

    $cientology, like this plant, is a trap.
    It is good to chronicle so much fail.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/374c9b39f3a9bfb5372874d8101409ba2a1c0c3e2627ab81c779487bf1ed54e5.jpg

    • Graham

      Pan, I hope you don’t mind my linking again to the Hagemo ‘Debbie Cook’ style e-mail you unearthed yesterday. It strikes me as a ‘classic’. This is what all Scientologists should be thinking. Even without abandoning any of Hubbard’s weird crap, why cannot more of them see how Miscavige has kidnapped Scientology for his own ends?

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab85827ce10bc022b4cf32d011c601c8670eff5768600a243bdd955bc75fb83a.jpg
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5d0c10600d8cefdfc26c412fdb9c4765d06ddbf3c199f3256984d3f9a3d3f8d.jpg

      • Rasha

        Just throwing in here, as a never-in, that although any disaffection with Miscavige is a good thing, it doesn’t change the fact that Hubbard made it all up to con people and smash his name into history, to make money, make more money and make people to produce so as to make money, that the “Tech” has depleted people’s savings, destroyed families, as well as people.

        Miscavige pirating Scientology is just one man using another man’s poison “the wrong way”. If one were to distill the “good bits”, if any, it would be the equivalent of talking to a therapist or a friend anyway, without the need for a dictator like Hubbard or Miscavige getting fabulously wealthy while gathering intel on people and…..

        Sorry. I just needed to say. Dissing Miscavige while supporting Hubbard is not very beneficial. Who’s waiting in the wings to fight for control when Miscavige drops his tiny breakfast sausage of a body?

        edit for autocorrect correction. Is ‘gethering’ actually a word???

        • Graham

          What this e-mail does is to actually USE Hubbard to diss Miscavige. Even from within the bubble, what Miscavige is doing should be seen as wrong.

          In practise criticising Miscavige is like pulling on a thread. Keep pulling and the whole thing starts to unravel. As we’ve seen, for most Scientologists becoming Indie is just a step on the journey of de-compression. Hopefully the Hagemos are now further down that path, but seeing that Miscavige didn’t make sense even on Hubbardian terms was a giant first step for them.

          • Rasha

            I agree. My view from the outside is considerably different from those who are/have been inside. It’s brave just to stand up to the leadership and disagree, especially to one as controlling as Scientology.

            • Jenyfurrrrr

              Totally agree Rasha – the took the scariest first step by calling out the little usurper. Once out of the bubble, it likely won’t take long for the rest of the cards to fall. But I do understand how it’s hard to stomach any of the Hubbardian 💩. Sadly letters like those, using “source” to point out his hipocracy have been far more effective at popping the bubble for so many. Thankfully (& sorry if any indies are offended, I just personally hate the idea of LRH & his sick ideas directing anyone’s life choices) most don’t seem to stay independent anything for long. They discover the true source for the few things they found effective while in and go that direction.

          • MarcabExpat

            Beautifully put, and besides for the two of them, that email can “pull the first thread” for any still-in who reads it. And this stuff definitely gets passed around.

            • Philbyification

              How to embiggin that H letter Marcab? Can’t read it…

            • MarcabExpat

              Click on it…

          • Jenyfurrrrr

            Graham – being a never-in myself, I understand from where Rasha comes with that looking like only a partial recognition BUT after watching & learning for years now I think you are spot on with the “pulling on a thread” analogy! Even the seemingly most die-hard indies when they first leave tend to see the whole truth after a time. It typically takes people a period of time to become fully “in” so it makes sense that it will take some time to feel on being fully “out” after so much indoctrination & while learning to think for one’s self once again.

            This letter is super powerful (just as Debbie Cook’s was for SO many!) because it allows those still in to see that even their diminutive leader doesn’t follow “source” even on the surface. It’s a great first step & I’d truly rather see someone get out even if they claim indie status, than to see them in the CO$! They’ll soon see how fractured the indie community has become because without withholding info & authoritarian policies, Scientology just plan does not work when it can be openly subjected to scrutiny.

      • Juicer77

        I sure hope this couple put their resignation in writing to their own Org, and to Flag or anywhere else they have PC folders and monies deposited. As Jeffrey Augustine said in Chris Shelton’s Critical Thinking podcast: you take a legal route into Scientology, and you should take a legal route out of it.

        • ze moo

          The ‘I quit’ statement is important for legal reasons. You are ending all contractual obligations to the Clampire.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        “Even without abandoning any of Hubbard’s weird crap, why cannot more of
        them see how Miscavige has kidnapped Scientology for his own ends?”

        That really is the 3 billion dollar question, isn’t it? You’d think that true believer $cilons would be even more concerned about lil davey’s very long list of off-policy and out-KSW actions over the decades than anyone else!

        Once the real story of Elron’s demise became public, along with the details of the palace coup which put lil davey into a position of absolute power and control, you’d think that dedicated $cilons would have risen up en masse to “put ethics in” on this sociopathic pretender, but that just didn’t occur.

        Similarly, when Debbie Cooke’s “letter to the loyal” made the rounds and corroborating accounts of lil davey’s physically assaultive behavior and numerous first-hand reports of his false imprisonment of the entire top management team were revealed, you would expect them to have raised the alarm and catalyzed a very serious investigation in order to determine the veracity of those extremely serious allegations. But again, no such internal investigations were launched and no substantive reforms resulted.

        And if all that was somehow not enough to convince those who truly care about the cherch to get off their good postulates and DO SOMETHING about it, then the fact that $cn membership is collapsing at a frantic rate and his Ideal Org program has been an abject failure sure should have done the job!

        But no, $cilons seem completely morally comatose and totally blind to the very clear objective facts of his many failures. In other words, the $cilons remaining in the corporate cherch and under the sadistic thumb of Dear Leader exhibit the most craven and cowardly behavior imaginable, even in the face of massive evidence of his serious crimes and suppressive acts against $cn and $cientologists.

        Indeed, if this level of moral cowardice is what you can expect to attain as the standard result of spending huge sums in order to become a “homo novus,” then I’d gladly pay NOT to have those conscience-destroying experiences. Seriously, if $cn is honestly believed by its adherents to be the most important and effective system of spiritual advancement the world has ever known – capable of returning us all to our god-like native state, with super powers for all – then you’d fully expect those folks who truly believe in it to actually “stand tall” in protecting it from the utter destruction that lil davey has wreaked upon their cherch!

        The question of how folks could allow themselves to become this completely duped by, and subservient to, someone who is not only very clearly a sadistic sociopath, but also the one person most responsible for the collapse of their religion – both in terms of actual cherch membership and its public image – is worthy of deep and ongoing inquiry because it is relevant to understanding that phenomena in its much broader scope, as it is at work in just so many other situations and with so many other groups and organizations.

        In a nutshell, the question boils down to an inquiry into why we so very often fail to perceive true evil when it’s right in our faces and fail to act upon that knowledge even if we are able to perceive it. In totalitarian states, where silence is coerced under the real threat of imprisonment, torture and death, the answer is not that hard to understand. But in the case of sub-cultural groups whose evil behavior and system of injustice is NOT the same as that of the larger, more encompassing culture, then the question becomes much more difficult to answer.

        For true believer $cilons, it’s not some abstract academic question either; it goes to heart of determining whether or not they’re going to allow what they hold most dear to be utterly destroyed while they stand by and do less than nothing to stop it. True believer $cilons really are the Good Germans of our own era.

        • ExCult.Jan

          50 upvotes

      • Ang Madog

        Ah, well maybe that answers my questions. I’m from Indiana, so maybe I was born clear 🙂

      • richelieu jr

        I really do think it is imperative to underlineyet again, ‘internal vs external effects aside, that Davey’s did not usurp Hubbardism for his own ends’. His And Hubbard’s ends are identical: Rip’off as many people as possible, build a slave work-force and ruthlessly destroy anyone who refuses to tell him how god-like, unique and wonderful her is.

        Oh, and avoid Taxes.

        This only difference I can see is Hubbard was bit more creative and inconsistent, whilst Davey’s has his Napolean Commlex down to the point where he can just call it NC (or.. TC..)

        Only two substantive differences besides that:

        Hubbard tried to avoid Taxes, DM succeeded.

        Davey’s wants to feel tall, and Hubbard wanted people to pretend he didn’t have that pulsing, pustulent, sentiment sebaceous Cyst on his head.

        All L’il Davey’s did is (like only Hubbard and Charles Manson before him) recognize this lunacy for what it truly is: A CONTROL MECHANISM.
        Then when that nasty, smelly, vindictive and deluded Fatso in the wcollodore cap started nodding off, DM took the wheel.

        The destination is still the same : keep’the scam going, grinding upon lives for fun, money and fuel, and make sure his back little heart stops beating before the whole pyramid realizes it is offer than him and the point is right up his ass.

    • Rasha

      Outstanding work, Pan, as always. LOL at Tone-40 Tommy’s “numbers”… XD

    • salin

      Thanks Pan, you know I have been awaiting this installment!

      Since I fell down the rabbit hole (from the media coverage of ‘Going Clear’ ‘ s Sun Dance debut) I tried to find regional information. I found the Missions on Rockville Rd and Pennsylvania street, though the latter was harder to find and soon there after disappeared in general searches. The Rockville Rd kept showing up until sometime late last year or this year. Had no idea that there had been several attempts in Anderson – a pretty small blue collar/manufacturing city just under an hour outside of Indianapolis.

      Wondering about the dearth of scientologists – I one asked our dear DoDo about that – who told me that some Indy based Scientologists (as you have found the money trail) were involved in the Cincinatti Org (that is quite a drive for the local ‘Church Services’!) In jest he suggested that the very large presence of Eli Lilly (big Pharma) might have had a suppressive impact upon those Scienos trying to set up shop in Indiana.

      Sadly, in this same time frame (early 2015 to now) a small Narconon facility, I believe, was opened up in South Bend, Indiana – so some backdoor attempts are still happening.

      Thanks again for this series – very interesting/informative. Hugs to the Pan family – wishing you a fulfilling Sunday to you all.

      • Liberated

        Hi salin,
        Pan’s info sent me down memory lane….the first and most influential mission was Anderson, that’s where I started and drove from here three nights a week for course.
        The people worked at Guide Lamp (delco) and made a pretty good living to pay for courses.
        The truly dedicated moved on to LA and then to CW.

        There was a mission not shown on E. 52nd around the fairgrounds….it was started by people from California – Davis, it lasted a few years but like all the rest fizzled out.
        The people actually thought they could make a decent living and pay for their O T levels…their children certainly suffered, which was sad. The bridge was so much more important !

        I stopped paying attention in the middle 80’s …..oh yeah, there’s a very important highly trained
        OT 8 living in Kokomo now, her OT 3 hubby turned into a crack-head etc.

        Guess he needed another drug-rundown.
        I’m actually embarrassed I was involved in this god awful cult…you’re a smart girl never to have been influenced at all.

        • salin

          Liberated,

          I appreciate your response and context. I probably have driven near that former mission on 52nd street many times, as I worked a mile east of the Fair Grounds off of 38th and often drove to College Ave or Illinois St to pick up food for lunch – often using 46th, 54th and sometimes roads in between.

          Between around 2006-2014 I spent a bit of time in Anderson for work. Watched the manufacturing core get gutted when the car industry took hits the economic meltdown (2008). I can’t imagine the compounded injury to those families were they also having their savings drained by Scientology courses, IAS regging, etc. I am so glad to read that those missions kept closing down.

          Sad to read about the OT couple in Kokomo – harsh, emotionally traumatic reality. But that would be true with or without Co$ (the assessment of harsh reality.)

          Liberated – you found a light that went on despite the indoctrination. Be proud of that, rather than embarrassed. As I continue to read, learn, and reflect on contemporary societal trends that create susceptibility to extreme indoctrination methods, my admiration for those who get pulled in, and then find the way to “wake up” and walk away – despite the cost, continues to grow exponentially.

          I will claim that I think I am kinda smart, but that has nothing to do with my never falling into the influence of Co$, or a similar group. I have no idea whether I would have been drawn in – had I ever had any encounters but despite growing up in a new age-y type college town (other groups but no Co$) and living in some purported hot spots of Co$ activity (DC, and the SF Bay area) I never encountered it, and if I ever met members, they did not disclose it or try to recruit me.

          All that said – I am very glad that we have met at – and continue to have times to interact at the UB. Have you ever been to the Saturday am Farmer’s Market in Bloomington? It’s a treat.

          You have an open invite – I’ll buy you coffee (your choice of vendor), a breakfast or lunch, and at least one purchase (veggie, plant, – and now organic meat, eggs and cheeses) from the market. And no, I don’t work for the B-ton Visitor’s center – just would love to meet you and sending a hopefully enticing invitation.

    • Arthur Pewtie

      You say Tommy “dripped” out of college, I don’t know if that was a typo or deliberate but it’s funny either way.

    • chukicita

      Thanks, Pan – your carefully researched series is showing a pattern of short life expectancy for any Scientology mission. Bet that stat is conveniently left out when they’re selling Mission packs.

    • ExCult.Jan

      “He’s the one with the glasses.”
      So the dog must be the Clear.

    • madame duran

      The Mike Kasle quote from the newspaper clipping made me laugh:

      “Because of [Scientology], he says, he has lost his ‘superiority complex’.”

      LOL!!!
      Oh dear…I just peed a little in my shorts.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Lol – I caught that too & thought DM’s stats should have gone WAY down when one of his own missed out on the “Big Being” valence he tries so hard to promote!

    • James R. Speiser’s Boston Terrier deserves better!

  • Little Brother Joey (3-7-77)

    While I do approve of their choice to advertise their group on the side of a bitchin’ motorcycle, I can’t help but think that a few parts of it could have been thought through a little better. Mostly the fact that “The truth about” is conspicuously smaller and in a color that doesn’t stand out too well against the bike, making it much harder to read. And so the casual observer is left with only a fraction of the message, and arguably NOT the part they want to advertise. It reminds me of those DARE pencils we’d get as kids that said “Too cool to do drugs!” But as you sharpened them down the message became “cool to do drugs!” and then finally just “do drugs!” It’s never good to sabotage your own message.

    Which of course brings us back to the bike. I like to imagine that, at a glance, most people will just spot the bright white DRUGS that is so proudly written for them to see. From there, they’ll obviously deduce that this is either a mobile narcotics vendor ready and willing to hook them up, or it’s some kind of helpful pharmacy delivery service for them to rob for prescription meds. Either way, they’ll wind up vastly disappointed.

    Aww well, party on Adrian!

    • Marshall

      Reminds me back in the day when my father worked at a company that was making electrical components for the “new” electric stoves. Someone came up with the brilliant idea to make their slogan “Let’s Pass Gas”. It was a short lived slogan 🙂

      • Little Brother Joey (3-7-77)

        Not the legacy that person in advertising wanted, I’m sure. But a memorable one nonetheless!

        • Graham

          Reminds me of the Italian power generating company which needed a shortened version of their name for their web address, and decided to call it GenItalia.

          • Kestrel

            That took balls.

          • chukicita

            I still can’t get over Insul-Tech.

            • MarcabExpat

              Sounds perfectly Standard to me…

          • MarcabExpat

            Or Grampian Television, so re-named after someone noticed the problem with their original name, Scottish Highlands and Islands Television.

            • Robert Eckert

              Canada briefly had a Canadian Reform Alliance Party

            • MarcabExpat

              God bless Canada, says I.

            • Philbyification

              Antoinin Scalia School Of Law lol

      • Someone told them it stinks?

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Right up there with the now-classic, very short-lived national ad campaign for UPS, which featured the slogan, “What can Brown do for you?” Well, it sure seems like some smart, well-paid individual within that huge organization should have figured out the obvious scatological implications there, instead of having to learn from the consumer public what a shitty idea that was!

        • Marshall

          For a while I worked for a competitor of UPS and they were ALWAYS referred to as “Big Brown” :o)

          • Harpoona Frittata

            It’s the kind of unforced error that you could readily expect to have legs which is, of course, a totally shitty deal for UPS, but still one that you’d also expect for them to have anticipated and, for that reason, refrained from committing in the first place!

    • mark

      conspiracy alert: the pencil was meant to be a subliminal way to get them to do drugs so the organization would always have a public to work with and continue to get funding.

      Naw, probably just an honest mistake. should have printed it the other way so it would end up “too cool”

  • Rasha

    Wow, nice group of stories today! Firstly, given the fragility of Scientology’s grasp on people, I’d love to be the person that walks by one of the group talks, and say, “What a load of crap! That’s just Scientology! There are no facts to back any of it up!” and just let that little weed spoil their garden.

    Second, seeing Scientology unable to confront, shatter, or even get past “No” from a small community is so happinessing. Hmmm. Maybe Lord Hubris’ Safepoint and Infiltrate Tech is being called out? Y’think?

    Lastly, I was glad that Clay wasn’t pissed about being left out of the final edit on NBC, rather it was how they spun the story that riled him. He seems like an honest guy who sees the emperor has no clothes, and is all like, WTF? I do wish him safety and success in his business and livelihood.

    … and I assume that motorcycle has “The Truth About” written elsewhere on it, because in the picture above, it’s the equivalent of a white, windowless van with “KANDY” spray painted on the side…

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      +10!!!
      I loved that his issue had nothing to do w/his segment and everything to do with the way they flipped it! NBC has long been the “playing it safe” network that lobs softballs in an MLB Playoff game, so not surprising but so sad that with all the groundwork laid for them, they still bend over & call it “politically correct.” (And this, ladies & gentlemen, is what happens when corporations dictate the “news!”)

  • MarcabExpat

    Was the NBC segment longer when it actually aired? This one is two minutes.

    And yeah, if I were Clay Irwin, I’d be furious too. Or a City or Aquarium staffer. Or any other non-clam in Clearwater.

    • Tony Ortega

      Could have sworn the video I watched last night on NBC website said 5 minutes. But that’s the entire segment, 2 minutes. My mistake. Fixed.

      • MarcabExpat

        Thanks. I only asked because sometimes there is a switcheroo; at least I’ve noticed that on CNN.

  • Ann B Watson

    Team Narconon it is not even funny to me anymore. When I was ordered not to write anyone from Narcanon back as Letter Reg & some letters slipped through to me, I did not respond then and I was also told of course Narconon is part of Scientology but we do not let those in conditions such as would have them needing Narconon ,know that. This was years ago in 1974 & here they come back to lie and harm those who genuinely need help. As for NBC their journalistic cloak which is proudly waved by them seems to have gotten tangled up in the cult’s Dark Religious Cloaking. NBC you have just made me love Tony all the more and you are Fools. See the Truth and report what you see, don’t slink around pretending you know the Truth when it is right in your faces and still you are blinded by what money? Power? Keeping dm around to continue to scorch the earth and all on it? Miss Ann is steaming!. Finally If I was not moving
    the week of HowdyCon I would be there with all of you who I love respect admire and know it would be so amazing to be with you. 💛💜❤️💛

  • davegrille

    Although it has taken many sharp hits,it is perplexing why Narconon can still continue to operate in all these countries .Why they are forced to announce in their advertising and brochures that their treatment does not conform to medical or other clinical best practice standards.

  • Sorry to veer off the subject so soon, but I can never hear or see “Tunbridge Wells” without thinking of

    “The Rutland Weekend Songbook, sometimes referred to as Rutland Times, is a 1976 album by Eric Idle and Neil Innes featuring songs from the BBC comedy series Rutland Weekend Television.

    It was described by Allmusic’s reviewer as “really … as funny as it ought to be. An effortless parody of the last decade or so of British television’s most treasured conceits”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rutland_Weekend_Songbook

    and the song “Twenty-Four Hours in Tunbridge Wells” an hilarious take on “New York, New York” from the musical “On The Town”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Town_(film)

    the song begins at 10:00 (but the whole album is worth a listen…if you want to laugh your ass off):

    “We’re on our way to Tunbridge Wells
    Tunbridge Wells has its magic spell
    We’ll spend all day in Tunbridge Wells
    And smell all the Tunbridge Wells smells.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vDUx8nA7AA

    • cactusflower67

      I’ll do one better than that: here’s the video of the Tunbridge Wells song from Rutland Weekend Television: https://youtu.be/V5-KABA87qs

      • My eternal gratitude.

        • cactusflower67

          You’re very welcome. RWT was a great show.

          • Now I must find to watch.
            Utterly brilliant, and as you know, also debuted the Rutles.
            I found the album in a bargain bin and it is a treasured item.
            Thanks again for the video. So funny that when they get there its closed.
            “24 hours to while away in Tunbridge Wells.”

          • Joy. Youtube has some episodes.

    • PeaceMaker

      Tunbridge Wells is also one of the many locations across the UK where the was once a Scientology mission – that long ago failed.

  • doktorzoom

    Love this blog. Great post.

  • Wow. Did Mike Rinder really visit the San Diego Ideal Org?
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-org/

    • MarcabExpat

      He couldn’t get a helicopter to fly him over Int, so he had to settle for strolling into an overly costly empty building 🙂

  • chukicita

    The truth about the Truth about Drugs:

    On the flyer in the story, there is a quote not from a person, but from a Department of Curriculum and Educational Technology, Republic of Panama.

    My cousin runs a school in Panama. While there is a Direccion Nacional de Curriculo y Tecnologia Educativa within MEDUCA, the government body that oversees education, there is no one currently in the position of director. To my cousin, it sounded a little off that anyone would be issuing the kind of statement that is quoted on the flyer.

    • FredEX2

      Chuki, That’s bc in Scientology …it isn’t true unless it’s written…and some Scientologists interpret that to mean…if I write it…that will make it true. Thus, propaganda becomes ‘facts’. ( and a definition of ‘fake news’ )

  • Juicer77
  • Tony Ortega

    Hey, oldtimers. in 1986, if you were in Los Angeles and for some reason did something to displease Scientology, and a woman from the church named Simone and another person showed up at your door to do the creepy intimidation thing, which Simone would that have been?

    • Tony Ortega

      I’m hearing Simone Welch? Does that ring a bell for anyone?

      • Candy Swanson

        Sorry, Tony, I’m now almost as old-timer as it gets, but still feeling my oats. I left the scn stage 13 years earlier.
        OMG, wasn’t this the same year the old man was killed, er, died?
        I’ll come join you, Rasha, if I’m invited. (Sorry about my wicked swedish sense of humour…always happens these days when I have some time off away from my Lord and Master). Yikes, see what the bunker does to me?
        I’m joking, Tony.
        I’d love to hop over to the Howdy Con of the century party Thursday nite if there’s enough beer to go around?
        I’d be soloing, not like down in San Diego a couple of years ago. My, but, that was fun! Thanks for having us!

        • John McMillan

          Anytime anyone refers to Hubbard as “the old man”, I want to puke.

      • grundoon

        Simone Welch was one of the names in the “RPF Insider Newsletter #1” list posted anonymously in 2004. They purportedly were “right now here in the RPF, or recently graduated, or who has recently blown or has been SP declared or ‘Fitness Boarded’ out of the Sea Org with a ‘probational SP declare’.” She was from Switzerland according to another RPF Insider post.

        Her name appears at 12:55 in this list of SPs videoed off a Chruch computer screen in 2014 –
        https://youtu.be/NitY5oiPT9s?t=12m55s

      • grundoon

        In 1987, Simone Welch was doing PR at Bridge Pubs, according to this SF fanzine. Also, this WOTF apologia by SF author Algis Budrys. Rachel Denk probably would know her.

    • Rasha

      Barsinister?

      Sorry, I’ll go sit in the corner and make breakfasts…..

  • ze moo

    Hello I am Ze Moo and I am the head of the Division of the Department of Curriculum and Educational Technology and Half Life 2 Training, I’d like to talk to you today about Drugs. Drugs are bad….Now, pull my finger…

    There, I have as much training and expertise as any $cieno drug educator. Except that I do play Half Life 2. I have to wonder how the front group scam works. They get various clams to buy the booklets, at a very inflated price, and then they get local money to go out and pass them around. Amway is jealous.

  • Tracy Schmitz

    so is lester holt to blame as well? or is he just the “clueless highly paid simpleton whose job is to read outloud?”

    • FredEX2

      Morning Tracy. Looks like Lester Holt passed the story off to Kerry Sanders who actually reported it on NBC nightly news.

  • HTC

    What a bs piece by NBC. No where in the clip did they say what the cult wanted to do with the land. That the land would be used exclusively by the cult and not available to the public. I honestly don’t know how Monique sleeps at night.

    • Missionary Kid

      I haven’t watched the clip posted here, but the one I saw on the news last night had a diorama of a park-like setting with a large pool in the middle and a building on a part of it. It also had the mayor laughing at the suggestion that the city was bigoted. They didn’t mention that the $cientology Potemkin village that they briefly showed, with no one on the sidewalks, was a tourism killer.

    • mark

      ” how Monique sleeps at night.”
      here’s how, A nice big pillow stuffed with lots of soft money, laundered with the blood, sweat and tears of SO members.

    • John McMillan

      By the look of her I doubt she does. Every hour sleeping is one less billable hour, although she probably is as good at doctoring her stats as the midget is.

    • Observer

      She doesn’t. She sleeps during the day, like all the other vampires.

      • HTC

        and probably hangs upside down…

      • HTC

        After much consideration Obs, I feel the need to defend vampires here…she is much worse.

    • Night Nurse

      On a mattress stuffed with $100 bills, no doubt

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    “…NBC proves that it still has no idea when it comes to Scientology…”

    If NBC listens to Yingling but doesn’t include the details of the rest of the story, then you Tony need some promoter of your hard backstory reporting here.

    How do the upper behind the scenes “news” peddling influencers work?

    Who’s in NBC’s editing ear on a story like this? (Someone up the ladder of news editing influencing is in NBC’s ear, I’d love to hear who the new Scientology paid for news story influencing persons are.)

    How do the bigger league news editors in NBC operate? Who are these top NBC editors listening to? Who does the final edit to run with this or that inclusion of all the details.

    Scientology has influence news story peddlers, who obviously influenced NBC’s editors omission of important details that Tampa Bay Times has reported on this same story.

    There are controversial historical acts of Scientology in Clearwater, that ought NOT be forgotten nor edited OUT of the Scientology version of history.

    NBC didn’t get the relevant history, period.

    Mike Rinder’s edited opinions for one, ought to be always included in this story, for one.

    Tampa Bay Times’ reporting totally edited out.

    You are right to point out NBC’s shoddiness, which to me points to influence news peddling/news story editing that Scientology is engineering just like Scientology throws big money at legal dodging tactics of the highest level.

    • lynn

      someone is throwing something at NBC lately…The hiring of Greta S, Grant Cardones spot on the business show yesterday morning, and now this. Trying to be progressive & diverse is one thing for a news channel like msnbc, but this is getting ridiculous.

      • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

        Big League news influencing the final edit of stories, just like this article by Tony lays bare.

        So much can’t be politely actually reported of the behind the scenes influence peddling in the media, I suspect.

        When Vanity Fair was writing blistering good coverage of Scientology, even John Connolley of Vanity Fair being hired by Scientology to edge in on Marty Rathbun’s goals’ story, I hope burned Connolley for a short time there.

        Dabbling with Scientology’s agenda, ought be exposed in how this Big League media story influence peddling is being done to NBC, me as a layman well informed Scientology watcher would like to see exposed.

        Who the damned people working from Scientology’s big League “team” influencing NBC’s editing need exposing.

        That’d be “news” on how the big boys and girls at NBC get to their final story edit.

        Brooke Gladstone’s “On the Media” radio show potential small segment story, maybe, someday, once enough of this Scientology Big League news-story influencing accumulates for a story, maybe.

        • ron_burgundy8957

          The editing process at the major networks is always interesting to observe. I’ve been watching NBC Nightly News the last few days. Lester Holt is the main anchor, but he was off last week. I noticed they used the time to bring in a few substitute anchors and mess around with the formula. Lester is a registered Republican (though he often gets himself into trouble with Trump like interrupting him during his most recent interview and the debate fiasco). I find the stories tend to be less progressive or controversial under him. However, this past week, it’s been Silicon Valley progressive right and left (technology, healthcare (Science R+D), in-your-face career oriented feminism, collaboration, analytical surveillance oriented policing, etc.) This is opposed to the classic New York liberalism that is generally pitched as a helping hand (healthcare, minimum wage, etc). Why did this make the cut? I’m a believer that the Church of Scientology is allowed to fester to piss everyone off not just at them but at religions in general. By allowing Monique to sound off about discrimination, they get the desired effect. Scientology also comes across as visually appealing or nice, something an NBC program wants to showcase. Put another way, the Scientology sets, I mean holy sites, are made for TV. Since Scientology checks all the right boxes, the “objective” editors clear it for primetime.

          • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

            “…. Why did this make the cut? I’m a believer that the Church of Scientology is allowed to fester to piss everyone off not just at them but at religions in general. By allowing Monique to sound off about discrimination, they get the desired effect. Scientology also comes across as visually appealing or nice, something an NBC program wants to showcase. Put another way, the Scientology sets, I mean holy sites, are made for TV. Since Scientology checks all the right boxes, the “objective” editors clear it for primetime….”

            Excellent answer, thankyou!

    • John McMillan

      NBC disgusts me. What a joke.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Here’s the Truth about Drugs around here.

    Canada is about to legalize marijuana. Our government wants to do it right. Our society has finally admitted that keeping it illegal is a bigger problem than making it legal and controlling it.

    I remember those morons down at the cult office telling me, “We don’t do drugs”. I asked, “But alcohol? Tobacco?” This got us into ever deeper realms of stupid. Like me, those people, every one of them, realized how foolish they were and got out, never to return.

    • April

      At least the Mormons aren’t hippocritical about the whole “we don’t do drugs” thing. Tobacco and caffeine are both forbidden, as well as alcohol and any other mood altering substances.

  • Missionary Kid

    Adrian Hayman’s motorcycle looks like it’s used for delivering drugs, and advertising it.

    • I was just about to comment on that

    • joan nieman

      It most probably is Mk!

  • AngryNotSoOldHippy .

    Wow, how filthy. Scientology crims getting near children. 🙁 Are schools that stupid? Yes. Some of them.

  • Robert Eckert

    Jim Carrey speaks up for Kathy Griffin and promotes an upcoming show, no mention of the lawsuit, at all:
    http://rare.us/rare-news/jim-carrey-shared-his-takes-on-the-kathy-griffin-hullabaloo-and-whether-comedians-should-be-provocative/

  • Kim O’Brien

    Hey guys 😉 Can i get some help with a HowdyCon issue ? The Saturday dinner was going to be cash at the door , but now we need to do a PayPal account so people can RSVP AND pay ..by June 16th . The venue will order the food for the dinner , on the 18th . That way , we have an exact headcount with a couple padded extra ( just in case ) Will someone put themselves in charge of setting up that account and the logistics for getting the $$ to the venue account that night ? Pretty please ? I will ask Tony to put it on the web site once it is set up , and I will go into the HowdyCon web site and put a link to the account there as well . If someone is willing to do it , please email me kimob924@gmail.com

    • Would it help if i just pointed to the right pages on PayPal – it’s not that hard or time consuming!

      • Kim O’Brien

        just sent you a FB message .

    • iampissed

      How many are RSVPed now?

      • Kim O’Brien

        it looks like about 55 or so …but here is the problem . I am getting RSVP’s from people that I am not familiar with . They are not going to the site to rsvp , but are sending me emails . According to THAT head count …it is about 75 or so . If i give a head count for 75 ppl , and only the real 55 or so show up , I am on the hook for the remainder . I think some twats are trying to up the head count . The venue is going to do their food order , based on the rsvp count . If everyone pays $$ before the event – on the pay pal account – then there is no issue .

        • iampissed

          I emailed ya.

          • Kim O’Brien

            emailed ya back 🙂

            • iampissed

              I emailed you back again.

  • Missionary Kid

    OT, but on Leah’s show. from The Federalist,
    https://thefederalist.com/2017/05/31/leah-reminis-bonus-episode-proves-shes-mission-destroy-scientology/

    TELEVISION
    Leah Remini’s Bonus Episode Proves She’s On A Mission To Destroy Scientology
    Leah Remini and Mike Rinder want this second (and previously unplanned) season of their A&E show to do something more than just give Scientology a black eye.
    Bethany Mandel By Bethany Mandel
    MAY 31, 2017
    Actress-turned-activist Leah Remini may be the worst thing to happen to Scientology in its short but tumultuous history. The first season of her groundbreaking and immensely popular series for A&E, “Scientology and the Aftermath,” will come back in the fall for a second season. Because the network was so eager to get another fresh episode on air, Remini and her partner, former Scientologist spokesman Mike Rinder, produced a bonus episode, which aired the evening of Memorial Day.

    One would expect an episode sandwiched between the two seasons to basically function as a teaser for the second season. With the exception of commercial interludes featuring clips from season two, however, that was not the case. Season two appears to focus on instances of sexual violence and child abuse, crimes which if found to be genuine could land Scientology and its practitioners in legal hot water.

    Remini and Rinder were clear both in season one and the previews for season two what they want to accomplish with additional episodes. More than just give Scientology a black eye, they want this second (and previously unplanned) season to do something tangible. Remini and Rinder want to take down Scientology.

    The Pair Has Already Scored Points
    The pair are already making headway with their goal. Millions of Americans are watching and talking about the series, and in this week’s special bonus episode, one of the six special guests showed just how damaging daylight can be for Scientology’s bottom line. Australian television journalist Bryan Seymour has been covering Scientology on air for more than a decade and in that time its yearly income plummeted by a third in Australia.

    Remini and Rinder spent the episode speaking with six of the most outspoken individuals trying to expose the group, including journalists like Seymour, a professor, a lawyer, and a person whose former job was to destroy Scientology’s opponents. Remini and Rinder explained in season one several times the risk those coming forward on camera were taking, and this bonus episode collected some of the worst horror stories about what Scientology does to those who take it head on.

    Seymour told Remini and Rinder about a recent incident involving several Scientology members who served as bouncers at an event in Australia while Seymour was producing another television special about the group. The bouncers waited until the cameras stopped rolling, he said, then leaned into Seymour’s ear and said “We know you grew up in an orphanage. We know they gave you drugs. What’s wrong with you? Why don’t you kill yourself?”

    Prepare for More Dirty Firebombs Ahead
    It appears several of the individuals coming forward in season two will be new to the world of Scientology watchers. The show says the publicity surrounding the A&E special motivated them to come forward with their painful stories of abuse. It’s unclear if the victims will remain anonymous in the series, but A&E’s cameras intentionally obscured the identities of several in the season two teaser trailers. Why might these individuals, some of whom say they were victims of sexual violence, wish to remain anonymous?

    Outside of the usual reasons those who suffered sexual crimes may want to keep their identities hidden, there’s the reports that Scientology devotes itself to the total destruction of its opponents. Remini and Rinder spent the entire hour and a half of their Memorial Day special explaining how. These victims likely fear the character assassination and mind-games Scientology is best at — and famous for, thanks in part to Remini and Rinder.

    While explaining the cruel comments hurled at Seymour to upset him, Seymour explained: “That’s what Scientology is. It’s not some crazy sci-fi cult with a few celebrities. These are the people who plan the destruction of its critics and plan the total subjugation of its followers. It never stops with them.”

    Viewers need do no more than Google the names of those who appeared in any of the episodes to understand just how low Scientology will stoop to delegitimize critics, including name-calling, character assassination, and in the case of Remini, even a negative interview with her father. Atop every search for names of those appearing in the A&E episodes is a paid ad linking to a hit website written and hosted by Scientology.

    The collective effort to take down the cult of Scientology is picking up steam with the second season of the A&E show. Remini and Rinder say they want to expose its abuses for a wider audience. What can regular Americans do to aid in these efforts? Outside of sharing these stories on our social networks and contacting lawmakers, there’s another way. Remember those Google ads? It costs Scientology money every time you click. Just saying.

    Bethany Mandel is a Senior Contributor at The Federalist and a freelance writer on politics and culture.

    • Rasha

      “Dear Tommy Davis,

      “I was just going over your résumé, and wanted to ask you one question:

      “In your whole career, what accomplishment of yours, in 10 words, would you say had the greatest impact?

      “We’re guessing it starts with ‘You don’t have’… Any old hoo, we’ll check in again after Season Two of Aftermath. Have a nice day. ;)”

      • John McMillan

        Watch it Rasha, you’re making me angry….real angry.

        • Rasha

          XD

  • BraveBloggers

    My question in both the cases of Robert Van Der Feyst (representing his 9 regions) and the gentleman from New Zealand, who both apparently are running approximately 3 large (front) groups which are represented as having so much impact on the world as a whole, as reported and lauded in the alleged numbers (combined or individualized by area) in church propaganda is this:

    If their respective areas of responsibility are doing so well, and these out reach programs are massively impacting humanity…how is that the heads of not just 1 or 2 but 3 different groups has the time to sit in and lecture a relatively small amount of students, or sit at a table to hand out information at what appears to be low number attendance situations?

    Most personnel responsible for movements which actually have large followings and actually help populations representing the numbers cos alledges, have not only staff to assist at the ground level, but are usually tied up in the management of the helpful organization. Board meetings, budget planning and the like.

    That’s not to say that true managers/founders never get boots on ground, as they do. But, the photo evidence here is so damn telling. And, it seems not to be an isolated occurrence as Mr. Keller (and cos/the groups themselves) continue to provide similar quality photos of situations which do not back up the alleged numbers regurgitated to believers at the 5 annual events, in addition to any number of articles and emails self saturated by cos.

    I’m loathe to quote hubbard but didn’t even he say look don’t listen? I’m looking and it looks like inflated propaganda.

    /Steps off soap box rant and tips cap to Mr. Keller for his continued work.

    • ze moo

      Way to Crappiness and Truthiness about drugs is actually a franchise MIscavage hands out to his most loyal minions. Once those minions fail to get or keep stats up, they are thrown overboard and someone else gets the job.

      I don’t that much money is available for the low level ones who pass out the booklets or give the speeches to the unsuspecting, but they must get something for that. Probably some cheap ‘speaking fee’ to pay for gas.

      If there were real money were involved, Gavin Potter and Micky Chan would be there.

      • BraveBloggers

        Oh there’s money involved alright, it’s just flowing in the opposite way most helpful organizations are are ultimately designed. As opposed to $ in and then back out again, with some staying within the organization to pay for rent/staff and the ultimate product which goes out to help the community, Here it flows up lines, correct? By over charging for the “helpful” brochures printed in-house, not paying for proper staff and science/medically approved regimens at narcanons and the like.

        I see the “stats” being essentially +++ positive income/PR being DM’s target as opposed to say, meals delivered to the needy, persons provided resume writing assistance, trained K-9s for the disadvantaged et al., that other community assistance programs offer.

        I know the deal, it just irks the crap out of me to see this obvious cash grab held out as a paradigm of social assistance.

        Happy Sunday to you Moo, I hope you know that wasn’t directed at you. I just hate to see any group try and feather their own nest on the backs of others and then walking over those backs, breaking them and performing indefensible actions under the protective eaves of helping others.

        My gag reflex has been activated. It shouldn’t continue to shock me, but I’m only human. Time for some gardening.

        Edit: I left out a few words due to the UGH going on in my brain bucket.

  • flyonthewall

    going to see Squeeze My Cans today at 3p central. Any STL suppressives want to go and meet up, I’ll be there.

    • BraveBloggers

      Please throw some positive postulates at the Cardinals if you’re in proximity to their home for me. Enjoy the show.

    • Marshall

      Have a good time – I really enjoyed the show. Is Fly Lady going with you?

  • nottrue
    • BraveBloggers

      Drops the mic! Owned.

      • MarcabExpat

        I’ve said this before but Kirstie is literally unable to tweet without setting herself up to be owned.

        • BraveBloggers

          Yup. And she’s an opinion leader just as intended by hubs. Perhaps it works on many of those in the bubble, but as with many other practices used, it brings the exact opposite reactions in those outside the bubble. As many have said, continue to say and is evidenced here, the advent of the Internet/social media allows for the dog to bite its own tail in full view of those watching and capable of seeing.

          Thank you for the tweet. Happy Sunday.

  • Rasha
    • Harpoona Frittata

      Hilarious! Perfectly framed pic!

      • Rasha

        Jumped right out at me.

    • MaxLuvsDaBunk

      Brilliant, rasha. And with your succinctly phrased and framed highlight, i couldn’t help but notice it looks like, ummmm how shall i phrase….oh to heck with gracefulness….. it looks like big lumps of feces coming out of the top of his head.

  • nottrue

    ” They said we were angry and had grouchy personalities. What do they expect when they feed us day old donuts ” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd940c7c5392dc3ee667075f62678f38c693927552fefa40d8fc45b61f8af40b.jpg

    • Observer

      No fresh-baked Monique Muffins for you!

  • chukicita

    OT: So a relation is a fan of this 78-year-old Italian tennis clothing designer, and had one of his logo T-shirts on.
    Can you see why I almost dropped my covfefe?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c93162fd4219f47d5a5efbd8fbd9ad211de6fdbc66af29c1d6600fed5d1c0bac.png

  • Candy Swanson

    Wow oh wow. Bunker’s on a roll! Seems like I’ve been missing out.
    Finally having some time to myself, away from the fray in Rivercity…finally time to read these comments, always my favorite part.
    Ever since the fat bag of puss who reminds me too much of Hubbard in every possible despicable way landed on the white house, I’ve been rollar coaster crazy. Needed last nite and following morning off!

    • Candy Swanson

      Looking forward to Thursday nite in Denver, if I can make it happen. Picnic’s already got me that Saturday. (But I know the bunker party will be the best one of the three, that Saturday night!)
      I’d started that event as a surprise birthday party here in Rivercity for a mutual friend of mine, Tony’s and Paulette’s for June 11th, with Janis’ help, and it morphed into wrong date, wrong party, wrong location. Ah, well. Such is exSO politics.
      Bent’s surprise birthday party is now on June tenth here in Rivercity and you’re all invited if you’re friends with B. C. It’s his 75th and it’s fully catered, plenty of A/C, free booze and a jazz band, at my favorite event hall in his gorgeous building. Best of all, it’s all fully sponsored by his business.
      Please RSVP to me directly, if you’re able to make the drive all the way out to Riverside next Saturday nite. Especially you, Tony, if you’re in the neighborhood.
      Aloha!

      • flyonthewall

        i know Bent, we go way back. I will be there

      • gtsix

        Yeah… “surprise”

  • PerpetualOutflow

    What a pathetic piece NBC. I guess $cientology doesn’t need SuMP after all since it has NBC to carry its water.

  • whingeybingey

    Hardly anyone trusts the mainstream media anymore, anyway. The more cowardly a news source is the less public influence they end up having. I doubt the public will thank NBC for their spin on this.

  • joan nieman

    I cringe at the persistence of a cult pushing the ignorant and simple Way To Happiness flyers. I shudder at the desperate families that pay obscene amounts of money to Narconon. The greedy cult continues to rob, rape and destroy lives.The day they were recognized as a religion initiated their power and fed their immoral strength. The hand that gave them this privilege needs to take it away.

  • madame duran

    Re: NBC news clip

    No mention that the Cult of Scientology owns a considerable amount of property in downtown Clearwater already.

    No mention how the cult’s domineering presence spooks non-Scientologist tourists and residents alike, making the city centre unwelcome to them and transforming it into a virtual ghost town (save for the colony of Sea Org members that work there).

    No mention of Scientology’s secretive tactics to influence the city council vote through approaching city council members one-by-one at the Fort Harrison hotel (Scientology property) instead of conducting an open presentation at city hall, bypassing consultations with the general public, limiting press access, inviting only a select group of downtown business owners to meet famous Scientology celebrities.

    No mention of Scientology’s attacks against the CMA (CEO David Yates in particular), the city of Clearwater and downtown businesses (boycott) after losing the bid.

    Partnership? What partnership?
    All I see is an organization that seeks to control others then bashes them when it doesn’t gets its way.

    NBC, your coverage of this story is pathetic.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Great! Also no mention that the new development they planned, is not for the public.

      • madame duran

        YES!! Very good point!!

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Like who the heck do they think they are anyway? People are finally becoming wise, and see through them. Yea, foot-bullets, just keep coming.. xx

          • madame duran

            The people are becoming wise DESPITE the fluff reporting from some media outlets. It’s a shame that NBC persists in following soundbites and conflict-driven narratives instead of actually investigating stories for full context.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Thank goodness. A pox on NBC.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        I noticed they cut off the interview clip at the Aquarium RIGHT as Yates was sharing it, while also failing to mention the interference & smear tactics they used on the aquarium immediately following. They made it sound like CO$ “offered” more than 3x as much $ without explaining that they’d already had value assessed and contracted to sell to the city at the APPRAISED value & the Criminals of $cientology tried to thwart that contracted transaction… interestingly they missed over 60% of the story!

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Right!

    • stillgrace2

      No mention of the trees david miscavige ordered cut down illegally in Clearwater and the sidewalks he had demolished illegally. No mention of the permits scientology didn’t obtain when they erected the huge tent and the illegal signage they displayed on the tent. Sigh.

      • ze moo

        Soon to be a new reality show. ‘Neighbors from Hell’.

        • stillgrace2

          It gives new depth and meaning to “The Psychopath Next Door”, doesn’t it? I feel bad for Clearwater residents.Their town was hijacked. I support Clearwater taking back their town.

    • GrangerFX

      No mention that Monique Yingling was involved with a cult kidnapping according to Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun.

      • Philbyification

        Or SILENCERS.

    • Just Sayin’

      The Mummy starring Tom Cruise, release date Jun 9, 2017. Part of NBC/Universal, first step in creating Marvel style universe of monsters as reboot to aging properties at theme parks. I’m just sayin’.

    • John Prince

      You’re being alittle too nice to them,calling their “coverage” merely pathetic..I’m accustomed to sharper critique from You, Madame 🙄 However, You’re words Ring true as ever🎯

  • Bleuler

    OT to todays post, but relevant to clam-media. How much pictures have they released of their event at APA this year? Maybe I just missed it here on the blog. Several of my colleagues were there and I asked them if they noticed any clam presence, which they did not. Must have been much smaller than it used to be.

    • ze moo

      I have not seen any clam pics from this years APA convention. They are usually posted in Advance or Freedom mags. Odd that no ‘special edition’ of those have come out.

    • PeaceMaker

      As I posted the other day, there’s a picture on the CCHR Facebook page, and three in an piece posted to NewsWire and its affiliates – here is the one where the Scientologists are in a plaza of some sort, and it appears that they had 50 to at most 100 in attendance

      http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3357663
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/91cc3321765b0e8d8b80afac4458952218aa49c3c753b36d59ae664a4954d46a.jpg

      • gtsix

        Looks like NOI is taking over.

        Had people at the APA conference, no one saw them at all. (One of our peeps goes looking). Noseeums

      • Bleuler

        Thank you. It looks very small and unimpressive, despite them choosing the pictures that really does not show the real crowd-size.

  • Supper Powers

    What scares me is all the corporate sponsors on the back of that Narconon shirt. I can make out other narconons as sponsors, but is that Walgreen’s on there?

  • nottrue

    She must have watched AfterMath.. Keep the money I’m out of here …. https://youtu.be/QJOwaBqt70g

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Love it. Keep “wondering what happens to people” and maybe someday you’ll wake up.

  • otviii2late

    Squirrel locationals in South Africa? Where are those Squirrel Busters when you need them?

  • RadioPaul1

    We need a video for Narconon SA like this one
    https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=7keDiEG4s7k

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Won’t show for me.

    • MarcabExpat

      Something wrong with your link there.

  • One of the main purposes of these drug lectures, aside from their attempt at ‘safe pointing’, is recruitment. Back in 1969 several Scientologists arrived in the small Canadian town I lived in when I was a kid. They were there to do a lecture for Narconon. It was there I was recruited into the cult and didn’t wake up for over 40 years.

    Scientology is still using these tactics of drug lectures. My sister who is still in Scientology and now OT8 has been doing these lectures for years. She’s the one on the right in the photo below. The girl on the left is the head of OSA Canada.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ce0ac24adc64ecd961cd46f18ca594a62224896374e767aa326bd9107966aa2a.jpg

    • ze moo

      While TAD may (but probably does’t) disseminate to lots of people, does anyone really pay attention to them?

      http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104382/blowing-smoke

      • Take one person, sign them up for the cult through a drug lecture. A few friends and family follow. They talk to a few others and some of them get in. Years later some of them have kids. The kids get in. Over decades that one person can turn into quite a number of Scientologists. They need to be stopped. Period.

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          This!!! It’s especially poignant when looked at from the human point of view vs numbers… meaning, what if YOU or YOUR child was the “one” that gets signed up? It’s a much bigger deal in that case! Perspective is everything.

  • Supper Powers

    OK, the list of corporate sponsors on the back of the Narconon shirt is bugging me. I cannot make out any other corporation except Walgreen’s. If someone in SA can recognize regional business logos or if someone can post a better res photo, would you mind doing so?

  • Looks like another cultic group is due to join the choir invis-ibule!

    Gentle Wind Project was legally dissolved in 2006, and their websites gradually faded away, but they were still hanging on to their main one at http://www.gentlewindproject.org, the site is now gone, and in another month, the domain will hopefully expire.

    Only one mention in the Bunker, I think:

    Where it all began for us: Rick Ross, David Koresh, and the Church of Scientology November 30, 2015, Tony Ortega, Underground Bunker

    Wikipedia

    I think their big scam was expensive healing hockey pucks, containing holy hair, dead skin, or fluids from their founder. Yeah, that was the one!

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.religion.scientology/Gentle$20Wind$20Project%7Csort:relevance/alt.religion.scientology/wGKM0wqfRcA/-ZK5eZrrMCUJ

    Critical site: http://www.windofchanges.org/

    • Holy Puck!

      The Gentle Wind Project sells “healing instruments” that they claim were designed by benevolent space aliens who communicate telepathically with their leader, John Miller. One of these instruments is a hockey puck that sold for $300 to $450. (Newer puck models sell for as much as $5850, and other designs go for even more!) We have obtained an early model puck and photographed the insides. There’s not much to it:

      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Gentle-Wind/

      • Wow! $5,850 for a hockey puck with a bit of sand in it. Hubbard could have taken lessons from this guy. His e-meters are way under priced.

  • Squints

    Can anyone tell me what is on that chalkboard? The first one.

  • DoveAlexa

    This NBC bullshit makes me happy that traditional TV is dying. The owners of news stations are so smug about their power, but it’s tick tock for them too.

    • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

      But their organization, probably all gone too, their organization to send out reporters to cover stories, at least they had their organization to get their stories covered whole side of the large media organizatons is being lost.

      That back organization and money, to get news stories covered, is being lost when big media like NBC fall down on their job, and reflects NBC’s top shows’ editors’ ignorance.

      More widely read and smarter editors in the world, I’ve thought, is a bigger behind the scenes problem.

    • gtsix

      I’m not, as this hatred of news folks just allows rumor mongering hate filled fucks to create lies and call it facts. The news was important. Now shit crazy freaks like Alex Jones gets a press pass. 22 year old bloggers without editors get a job at a “news blog” and couldn’t report their way out of a dumpster if I set it on fire.
      And dead in the heads just sit and moan about MSM. Destruction of an entire industry in less than 30 years because news no longer has to have an educational component.

      • stillgrace2

        There is some access to reasonable reporting in some docu-series, like Aftermath and Netflix’s new offering “The Keepers”, which I confess to be currently on my fourth binge-watch of this brave and honest look at the catholic church’s culpability in moving pedophile priests around with full knowledge of their transgressions. Oh, and then there’s a nun who knew about the abuse who ended up with a huge hole in her skull. This series is not for the feint of heart.

        I used to think I was as far away from the Catholic Church as I could possibly be.

        Not true anymore! I’m beyond Target Two now. Thanks for letting me vent.

        • April

          Thanks for the heads up on the Netflix “The Keepers” series.

          • stillgrace2

            Gird your loins, April, my friend. It’s a doozy. It has exquisite and beautiful music and it is so well-done! I can’t wait to see if it scores Emmy-wise. Subject matter is tough, however.
            REALLY tough, especially for people like me that attended all-girl Catholic High Schools.

      • April

        Traditional tv is dying though. “Cord cutters” numbers are increasing, especially among millenials.

      • DoveAlexa

        There was news before traditional tv, and there will
        be proper news after. Tv didn’t invent reporters, or journalists, but it
        did make ad revenue more important than the results of a journalist’s
        work.
        I honestly wonder what sort of news will come out of the
        subscription/patron based online mediums like netflix and smaller
        seperate sites. Smaller sites (not all one man jobs) can have all the
        proper journalists and editors as well as competition with each other. A
        smaller site with patrons may just also have more reason to report the
        truth in order to keep their partons.
        Also, believe it or not, people my [much detested] age and other’s online really do pay for things. As well, people my age are still going to school, and care about the truth.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      This is just rank opportunism and photo-op b/s.
      All victims were brought away by emergency vehicles the previous night.
      Police shot the perpetrators.

      Now all the VMs are is ghoulish cult tourists doing selfies where innocent people have died.
      Vile bastards.
      It makes my blood boil.

      Anything can be and is turned into PR.
      Quasi-Trumpian in it’s ignorance and uncaring narcissism.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ab5469584a0e8b6ce3f8889a1f0a3dcaec67813138d5b2ffd953ec3ca8bd237.jpg

      • Sherbet

        That’s what I was thinking. What are these yellow-shirted goofballs supposed to be doing to help anything?

        • Philbyification

          Fake news Hoaxers. Same as Newtown.

          • Sherbet

            No, sorry, it’s not the same. The VMs are posers, feeling all noble and warm and fuzzy, creating photo ops for the church, because they look like they’re doing something useful. As someone else posted here, in a natural disaster, if the VMs were handing out water and blankets, then maybe they would be accomplishing something. In London, after the fact, nada.

            • Philbyification

              ABLEchild’s BS at the Newtown Comm. meetings sowing disinfo about the shooter being on psych drugs is “hoaxer fake news” to me. Also their Swiss cheese hoaxer documentary and hoaxer book was complete crap. They did Nothing in Newtown either. They are vile and lame. The anti-Leah vids are hoaxy and LRH was the biggest hoaxer of them all. Semantics. I understand what you are saying though. Leah talks about Katrina and those crummy WTH booklets in her book with funny colorful language. Thanks Sherb. I had to get some raspberry sherbet the other day as your Handle was making me crave it! Yum!

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Ugh, these self-lobotomized useful idiots seem ready, willing and eager to use whatever natural or man-made catastrophe that draws the world attention to exploit what amounts to a free advertising opportunity for their cult “product placement” promotion. Utterly shameless for sure, but motivated by the cult’s much more encompassing magical thinking belief that just thinking “happy thoughts” is sufficient to bring about actual positive effects in the world

        Like everything else in $cn, the superficial appearance of providing help and support is the entire purpose, NOT the actual provision of effective support and relief efforts. As a result, these folks are more like volunteer ghouls than they are recognizable as ministers of any faith that’s truly concerned with social betterment of any kind.

    • Observer

      Once again they have creepily, revoltingly inappropriate grins plastered on their ignorant faces.

    • Puget Buckeye

      The smiles bother me. Very inappropriate.

    • Horrible carpetbaggers out for the photo op. This is so gross I can’t even…

    • I_scream_truck

      The quotes around volunteer ministers are appropriate, at least.

    • Draco

      Happy smiley scilons at the scene. Why are they there? This happened last night – they are simply posing for a photo where nothing is going on right now. It’s not like a flood or earthquake where you can help the day after it happens.
      Go home, people, you turn my stomach.

    • Newiga

      Note to Sickentology: Disasters and tragedies are NOT photo ops!!!!

      • Marshall

        Unfortunately, that is exactly what they are. Once again, Scions don’t care how this looks to everyone else just how it will look in their slick videos that are being produced.

    • Science Doc

      Disgusting

    • Yellow-bellied scum.

    • How can they smile? Fucking crazy idiots!

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      [Ignorant], exploitative, shameless grinning bastards.[ETA]

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      Clear off you lot! You so-called helpers!

    • Rasha

      Big smiles everyone!

    • GrangerFX

      Vultures.

    • Graham

      F*** these bastards and their shitty smiles. Standing near a place where people were knifed to death less than 24 hours ago and they’re treating this like some jolly picnic outing. What are they doing? This time they haven’t even bothered to beg freebies from the local Asda so they can look like they’re distributing emergency aid.

    • Sherbet

      Someone should tweet JAW and ask him exactly what the VMs were doing long after the tragedy occurred and the people had been hospitalized or dispersed.

      • madame duran

        You might as well ask the same question of a brick wall (though I’m inclined to believe the wall would be better able to respond).

        JAW disseminates (regurgitates, spews, babbles…same thing). His role is not to think or engage with critics. When a passing reference is made about Scientology, he tries to lure newbies by inserting himself into conversations then directing them to Scientology web links. Once a person shows their resistance or displays knowledge of the cult scam, he retreats like the coward. He’s no match to their awareness. He certainly won’t engage with people like me who have publicly outed him as a hypocrite. JAW chooses to sheepishly hide behind his fiancee, a twit named Gemma (I kid you not…her real Twitter handle is @gemthetwit). That’s his way of “confronting”. A total wanker, he is.

        • Sherbet

          I know all about JAW and Gemma. I understand he’s a brick wall. But people who read his tweets might have an “aha moment.” (I really hate that cliche, but it seems to fit here.)

    • EmmaDaoust
    • Philbyification

      Bleurg!

    • GfldedKim

      😡. I. Just. Can’t. These “people” are despicable.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Interesting how in ALL their pics, they’re grinning & hamming for the cameras either WELL after the fact or while everyone else is hard at work w/selfies & PR the LAST thing on their minds!

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Why the fuck do these useless twats think a huge douchey smile is appropriate?

  • GrangerFX

    NBC sounded just like a Scientology video with their dumbed down sing song presentation of their fake news story. I rarely ever watch any stories from the mainstream media any more but when I do I find them depressing as hell.

  • ExCult.Jan

    Group hug to our beloved British Bunkeroos. Xo

    • BraveBloggers

      ^^^^
      This!

    • MarcabExpat

      Times a million.

  • Positively pleading to be done (though it’s probably an underestimate)…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d6caf95e05db965dee8cf22e9b0b9b52d9818a34e773dfe65f84c03136ca993.jpg

    • BraveBloggers

      I like how you shoop fairly by low balling the numbers. You are talented and kind. 😘

    • Techie

      My wimpy windows calculator comes up with 3.5153041e+43 for 77,000,000,000 to the fourth power. Seems a little low when you consider the daily video production from the SuMP and the 12,000,000 folks who get up every day and tell themselves that they are making a difference in the world. Oh dear, a flying pig just flew in the window and told me the SuMP is silent and the 12,000,000 are more like 12,000. And probably a majority of those wake up every day and tell themselves they have got to get out of this mess before their entire lives are wasted. So your estimate looks a little better now. May it trend to zero, leaving only a token noise level from the fake academics and the damaged few who cling to the Hubbard canon amidst the wreckage.

    • gtsix

      The ECCCC has it right: recycle!

    • GrangerFX

      “Are the WTH booklets edible?” – Everyone in Venezuela.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      ” Chocolate Whizz-Way” LOL.

      • Thanks to Whoopi Goldberg for that gem 🙂

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Squirrel tech:

    Havingness assist:
    – Look around the icebox and tell me what you could have.
    – That beer!
    – Thank you.
    End of session. (Beer allowed.)

    Locational assist:
    – Look around the room and find something you want to touch.
    – That beer!
    – Thank you. Now go over there and touch it.
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d62f7ef4bad4e2a96de7663b372fd72e90c065d8da568352e01f9aa84cf60a01.gif
    Time for a break. (Beer allowed.)

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • HTC

      She’s trying hard to believe she’s famous enough to be an inspiration to somebody, anybody.

    • Observer

      Please! Go back in! Cover it up!

      • Shivani33

        Her facial expression, when magnified, looks like an ad for a product being sold to sufferers of urgent constipation.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Coming out, umm, of her dress? Coming out as a Scilon? Coming out as a lesbian? Wtf is she referring to?

      • Newiga

        My thoughts exactly. *confused*

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        When someone offers you a ‘boob assist’ you don’t ask questions 😉

        • Harpoona Frittata

          (titter, titter)

      • Shivani33

        She’s coming out as a headhunter and also would like to bag a rich and stupid sugar daddy who is close to kicking the bucket. For a trophy.

    • iampissed

      That needs a disclaimer.

    • I_scream_truck

      You guys! Does anything look freakishly large to you in that picture?

      Yeah, her fingers are going to claw out of a grave in my nightmares.

      • MarcabExpat

        Hahaha, oh what a tangled we weave, when first we Photoshop our… love handles.

    • John McMillan

      Stacy STFU!

    • gtsix

      Sing for your supper, stacy. Joy is lapping you at this point. What’s a … singer to do?

      • Juicer77

        Nice artistic pause… (snicker) XD

    • John McMillan

      Who the f*ck is Stacy Francis?

      • madame duran

        Ha ha ha. So funny. The question should be on her gravestone.

      • April

        I’ve never heard of her outside of this blog.

    • Observer

      This is a seriously stupid pic.

      • UhLasare

        It’s bizarre. Her face and body language don’t match what she’s trying to project, I think.

        • madame duran

          Like a constipated kewpie doll trying to act sexy.
          “Oh, I’m so fragile and feminine and…HEY!! LOOK AT MY TITS!!!”

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Her hands look wonky and her face has the look of someone in pain. Can’t believe this was the one pic they chose out of lord knows how many prints. If this was the best one I shudder to think what the rest of the contact sheets looked like. :/

        • April

          I think the hand placement is to disguise the fact that she has no waist. Either that, or her waist has been photo edited away.

      • madame duran

        If she were my mom, I’d be embarrassed.
        As it stands, I’m not related to Stacy Francis and I’m still embarrassed.

    • MarcabExpat
      • JaxNGold

        LOL!! They both have the same exact expression.

        Awful pic of her. I’m embarrassed.

        • MarcabExpat

          I think the bear has better claws.

      • Juicer77

        ROFL

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Killin’ me here!

        • MarcabExpat

          One softly, the other loudly.

    • Bob Crouch

      It’s my understanding that the cult is considering coming out with a new line of real estate to hit its marks up for and invigorate its fund coercion drives. It will be dedicated to the likes of Stacy, Joy, Jenna and Bodhi: The Ideal Celebrette Center

    • Qbird

      HOLEE TEETS!!! wtf IS this photo suppose to convey!?!

      • Techie

        Looks like one from the lineup at the Mustang Ranch – http://www.lasplash.com/uploads/5/THE-GIRLS-AT-THE-LOVE-RANCH-5-hackford.jpg (legal in Nevada, but not the look you want when the goal is to inspire someone besides a “customer”. The exploited ones in the lineup look just as happy to be there as Stacey does.)

        • Sherbet

          The one on the right — is she for men who go for a PTA mom vibe?

          • Graham

            Mrs Robinson; are you trying to seduce me?

            • Sherbet

              Oh, she’s yours, then. Got it.

          • Liberated

            Looks like a pic of Helen Mirren from the movie Chicken Ranch.

            • Sherbet

              It does look like Helen Mirren.

      • Betty

        Covfefe.

    • Rasha

      “…as I grow with grace and a willingness to be cause and willingness to have effects…”

      SMH.

    • Bob Crouch

      Those thetans clearly are the product of an implant station!

    • Sherbet

      Diana Ross is probably thinking, Shut up and quit quoting my song!

    • Observer

      Her facial expression reminds me of someone, and I finally realized who: the Lady of Shalott.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/08c2b851bc7563e105bd7bb874158efef23ffebd6e1dbed76bf23865ae8bd9ad.jpg

    • Bob Crouch

      “…as I grow with grace and a willingness to be cause and willingness to have effects…”

      Statements like this never cease to amaze me! Here’s a group that offers to IMPROVE, if nothing else, one’s COMMUNICATION skills! Using as its “Source” the incomprehensible, self-indulgent, logorrhetic ramblings of a writer on drugs, no less.

      The “end phenomenon” is readily apparent: No one outside of the cult will have a fucking clue what you are going on about. And I suspect, neither will those inside the cult. At least, they will not admit it for fear of not appearing “heavy” and “hip” enough. Or simply, for fear of Knowledge Reports, Ethics and other costly detours on the “Bridge to Total Who-knows-what.”

      Incidentally: “Grace” is clearly squirrel tech! There is NO such thing in scientology. Not toward others, nor toward oneself.

    • Elegant Mess

      Is she hiking up her Spanx while simultaneously trying to soothe gall bladder pain?

    • Rasha

      Her knees are as big as her head, and her fingers are 13 inches long. Her feet are over a foot long and her hips are as straight as a board…. AND WHO SHRUNK HER HEAD????

      • Sherbet

        It’s the weight of the wig. It’s compressing her skull, bless her heart.

        • Rasha

          Yeah but the knees…..

          • Sherbet

            Pilates does wonders.

            • Rasha

              LOL

            • Sherbet

              Did you catch the thread down there somewhere? A few of the Mass. Bunkeroos are hoping to get together sometime for lunch. I know you’re elusive and all, but we’d like to include you. However, this isn’t happening any time soon. I’m holding up the works with stuff, and also I have a commitment for a Maine get together with some other folks and am trying to pin down a date for that.

            • Rasha

              I did, and I am kind of elusive. Don’t let me hold anything up. -_^

            • Sherbet

              OK. I fully understand.

            • Rasha

              Total hugs!!!!

            • Rasha

              Hope the Maine trip is to Acadia… Rasha’s favorite place in the whole world…

            • Sherbet

              I’ve never been there. I should put it on my bucket list.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    *Reads aloud* D-R-U-G-S

    I can only read the bottom line. This means I need glasses.

    • Bob Crouch

      He was conducting his fierce and hypnotic Spelling Bee Rundown. Don’t look in his eyes when he does that, or when you come to you’ll find yourself wearing a fake navy uniform and some dick will be screaming humiliations at you.

    • MarcabExpat

      Or drugs.

    • Puget Buckeye

      You must have pulled in the bad eyesight. Maybe you need some auditing. How much money you got?

  • 77,000,000,000? That’s a lot of waste paper 🙁

    • Kim O’Brien

      Glad you are joining us ! It is no longer cash at the door …so please go here to ensure your spot

      https://www.paypal.me/HowdyCon/41.26

    • Kari Harris

      Lotta trees have died for LRH’s bullshite

  • Bob Crouch

    “Department of Curriculum and Educational TECHNOLOGY.” I seriously doubt that Panama’s gov’t has a department of that name that could have supplied the testimony–unless the cult has taken over Panama!

    So I call BS on the department, the testimony and a cult that would blatantly lie to its marks!

  • I_scream_truck

    Just in passing, the “washed up” Leah Remini’s career has been on the upswing since Aftermath — 6 IMDB credits so far this year.

    For comparison, in 2017:
    Kirstie Alley: 0
    Juliette Lewis: 0
    Jenna Elfman: 1
    Nancy Cartwright: 1
    Kelly Preston: 1
    Laura Prepon: 2
    Erika Christensen: 2
    Catherine Bell: 4
    Elisabeth Moss: 6

    • madame duran

      Those zeros…as empty as Lewis’s head and as round as Alley’s mouth gorge.
      The ones…as straight as the stick shoved right up Elfman, Cartwright and Preston’s anuses.
      The twos…as two-faced as Scientology’s stance on homosexuality (“gay-friendly” Prepon) and other religions (Erika “You can be a Scientologist and a _____ too” Christensen).
      The six…as curved as the evasive replies Moss gives in interviews regarding Scientology.

      Got nothing on Catherine Bell. She’s forgettable.

  • Bob Crouch

    Rod is way too nice: Every time he pinpoints a person who allegedly “solicited” a quote, he probably found something quite different: The cult operative who MADE UP that quote! Let’s face it, if I REALLY had a Senator vouching for my business, would I really quote them, anonymously, as “some guy in the Senate?”

  • Kim O’Brien

    Hey guys …HowdyCon update for dinner Saturday night.

    It is no longer cash at the door …so please go here to ensure your spot

    https://www.paypal.me/HowdyCon/41.26

    • Jeb Burton

      Sounds shady to me. It really is Howdy con.

    • Kestrel

      Done.

    • TexasBroad

      Done! I’m getting so excited!

      • Kim O’Brien

        me too ! i am so glad you are able to make it !

    • Missionary Kid

      I signed up early, and sent you an email. It’ll be good to see you again, and I’m looking forward to seeing you again, but on your home turf.

  • Tracy Schmitz

    OFF TOPIC: the public face of scientology and the most dedicated scientologist the leader (with a medal to prove it!) knows will be appearing for yet another round of ROYAL BUTT KISSING from hollywood in the form of TC appearing this coming week June 6, 7 and 10th on the tonight show with fallon tuesday night, late night with james cordon on wednesday and the graham norton show on the cable BBC channel saturday night.. yes, one will feel the butt kissing from anywhere where they are around the world, it will be so intense and sickening! suri? scientology? nope and double nope! “these are “entertainment talk shows, not the proper place”! excuse anyone!…

  • Tracy Schmitz

    OFF TOPIC #2: YET ANOTHER back and forth argument on youtube with someone defending cruise.. now the latest is when boycott of cruise is mentioned, this person posted the following below: (of course i made the HUGE difference between gal gadot and cruise and their not remotely the same analogy!):

    Here is a test for you and let’s see how courageous you are, why don’t you do the same with other actors, an example, tell people to boycott wounder woman and any other DC movies where Gal Godot appear in, because of her support of and service in the Israeli army which block food and medication on millions of people in Gaza or the killing of thousands of children, why don’t you start doing that as well if you are not a hypocrite.

    • Robert Eckert

      sigh… all food and medicine that Gaza ever receives comes through Israel.

      • Kari Harris

        Sounds like they did as much “research” as LRH did 😀

    • Kari Harris

      Gal Gadot is a beautiful, brilliant REAL LIFE heroine. Tom has never served his country nor has he done anything else of any REAL consequence (making movies and photo ops don’t count). Plus I think she could kick Tom AND Dave’s butts at the same time while still being the hottest woman alive.

  • Gina Smith

    “Apparently, some networks are still shitting their pants when it comes to covering the Church of Scientology.” I giggled since it’s not often Tony uses strong language but there really isn’t a better way to describe what’s happening.

  • Puget Buckeye

    Sorry if this has already been posted. Our friend Reza is in the news again.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/london-bridge-attack-cnn-host-182049119.html

    • madame duran

      Is he eating his own brain this time?

      • Puget Buckeye

        If that’s the case, I’m afraid he may go hungry.

      • daisy

        He has a brain ?

  • Today is Sunday. LRH said handle your pending on Fridays, well f**k you Mr Hubbard and your minions. I handle (well sort of) mine on Sunday. Here is the first post it: Tony on the Jim & Sam show was asked: “where do they put all those folders?”. Tony with no comm lag answered: “… In CF.”. I love you Tony but you must get up on your lingo. CF and PC archives are 2 different things. There are PC, personell, treasury for advance payment or payroll, Ethics and OSA files. There is also CF. CF is there cozy place to be, where they send you sweet letters from my darling friend Ann Watson. This is where Heber got his millions count. (((Hugs Heber))))

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Glad you mentioned Heber Jentzch, former long-time cherch president, who’s one of $cn’s most well known members of The Disappeared – a group of high-level cult execs, which includes Shelley, who’ve not been heard of for years.

      Just because they’ve been removed sight, it doesn’t mean that they should ever be forgotten!

      Does $cn actually murder people? Not as a regular practice at least. You see, lil davey the sadistic would much prefer to keep them alive so he can continue to torture their souls.

      • GfldedKim

        I think they are gone. Forever. So scary and sad.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          It’s been a long, long time since some of them, such as Heber, have been seen or communicated with, so he may very well no longer be alive.

          However, accounting for The Disappeared, whether alive or dead, is an act of respect and humanity that we should never ever give up on.

          It makes me really sad to think that someone like Heber, who dedicated his life to $cn for decades and decades, could be summarily disappeared by the Diabolical Munchkin without any one of his fellow co-cultists raising the kind of hell about it that Leah had the courage to demonstrate when her friend Shelley was disappeared.

          • GfldedKim

            Absolutely agree. Never give up on The Disappeared. Never..

  • daisy

    To all our UK bunker buddies , I am so sorry for what is happening in your country . Stay safe and heartened by the good volunteers and service workers. My prayers and thoughts are with you. Ricky Gervais a staunch atheist once said* Sending prayers , All this time I have been sending money.* I will support the Red Cross , probably not as much as Ricky.

    • Jimmy3

      But no touching

      • daisy

        When they are down , it is the only time I can catch them.

    • Jeb Burton

      Don’t worry. Scientology will be there with touch therapy, water and food.

  • Kim O’Brien

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad0110ee90a4e48a9d24a04d115e6c388339b08b5c22cac5c107369c7fbdb641.jpg

    A lovely Bunker poster mailed these pins to my house . This is the best cult ever

    • Puget Buckeye

      Can anyone join? Like even if they can’t make it to HowdyCon?

      • iampissed

        There is always next year….hope we don’t have to say that to much.

      • Kim O’Brien

        the cult ? of course . we don’t even need your credit card …just say funny things every once and a while. we are pretty laid back .

        • Puget Buckeye

          Cool. I’m in!

      • Jeb Burton

        You don’t wamt to join. These people are anti-religion and anti every thing that is good. They are a cult according to a nationally recognized web site. Their leader is a known prostitute pimp, who woriked for a paper that openly embraced the sex industry. And most of these Howdy Con people are stinky hippies.

        • Kim O’Brien

          make sure you RSVP on the paypal account

        • EmmaDaoust

          Jeb’s Just Jealous.

          • Observer

            He didn’t even go to the Clearwater TUML book signing, and it was practically in his backyard.

          • Jeb Burton

            I’m not jealous. Who wants to go to Colorado? All there is there is mountains, clean air and pot.

            • Rasha

              Good point. I mean, who would — wait, wut?

            • EmmaDaoust

              I’ve been to Denver and you’re absolutely right, Jeb, it’s a terrible place. The mountains get in your eyes, the air makes you breathe, and when I went pot wasn’t legal. And the people? The people have this attitude like they’re a mile above everybody else.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Stinky hippies? What do stinky hippies smell like? Patchouli?

          • Jeb Burton

            And worse. Like cabbage and granola.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Well then, Jeb. You’ve settled it for me. I’m definitely in!!!!!

    • iampissed

      That’s going to be a collators pin for sure.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Do they have a SpyCam embedded in ’em?

      • Puget Buckeye

        Or GPS? So the Proprietor can keep track of his followers!

        • Supper Powers

          Jinx.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i think that was the ” tampon cam ” . No one sent tampons in the mail , so i think we are safe

    • Supper Powers

      That’s actually a Tile painted all pretty. Watch out!

    • Sherbet

      I didn’t see the bear until my second look at it. Very cool!

    • Newiga

      This is a cult? I thought I joined a sect!!! O_o

  • Kim O’Brien

    If anyone has any other posters or a banner that they want to print out …we can tape them to the wall at the dinner

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Really sorry I can’t make it this year, haven’t been able to save up enough–thanks for all the organising you’re doing. *whispers* Talk nicely to Shorpy… you never heard it from me… I wasn’t even here! 😉

      • Kim O’Brien

        i keep playing the lotto . there is still hope i can bring you and several others 🙁 going to miss your face

      • Kim O’Brien

        i need to know what type of lotto ticket to buy . How much would i have to win to make it so that you could come to HowdyCon ?

        not kidding …lemme know . the blind WW2 vets that i strip for , might buy a lotto ticket too

        • daisy

          I cannot believe I will not be able to be at a party that you are throwing .It is going to be fantastic. Lots and lots of pictures.

          • Kim O’Brien

            videos even

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          The flights would be around the $2k mark, I’ve no idea how much the accommodation and food would be… guesstimate another $1-1·5k 🙁 I really want to come to Denver and see you again, hoping your lotto numbers come up…

      • K2P2(KnitNut)

        Monkey, too bad you can’t go. Me neither. 🙁 Maybe another year we can raise a beer glass!

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          These things happen, KnitNut… at least we’ll be able to keep an eye on the revels from here 🙂 I’ll be saving up for HC III (and booking the flights this year if possible, to make them fractionally cheaper!)

          • K2P2(KnitNut)

            Now that sounds like a plan. I do intend to be in the Bunker a lot that weekend, so I’ll see you here!

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Brilliant–we can put our music on loud and raid the liquor cabinet! 🙂

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      Kim, I hate to have to say it out loud, but I won’t be coming this year either. 🙁 Like Monkey, I’m really sorry to have to miss HowdyCon 2. I know how much time you’ve put in to organizing and coordinating the weekend. If I were single, I’d be there in a heart beat, but . . .
      So many special people will be there, that once it starts you will forget all about us. 🙂 I sure hope there will be lots of pictures and updates, as I will be checking the Bunker regularly!!
      Hugs!

      • TexasBroad

        Hugs KnitNut 🙁

        • K2P2(KnitNut)

          Thanks, Texas B. – hugs back.

      • Kim O’Brien

        just tell him you are running to the yarn store . in denver 😉

        there will be tons of pics and we will make sure to have a cocktail for you !

        • K2P2(KnitNut)

          OMG. LOL. Why didn’t I think of that! Wonder how long it would take me to run to Denver? 🙂 Have someone drink a nice dark draft beer for me. Hug!

  • John McMillan

    If it was me who was in the position to go to trial instead of taking a money settlement, I don’t care how much the midget offered me, it could be a billion dollars, I would consider it my duty and responsibility to those who have suffered and are suffering to splash the headlines to the world of the evil this organization has perpetuated.

    Fuck you DM.

    • Sherbet

      I’ll be the first one to say my duty and responsibility might go right out the window if someone were to hand me a billion dollars.

    • Kim O’Brien

      I would take the billion and help the victims . And maybe get a boob job ( prolly not ..but nice to have the option )

      • Kestrel

        [Adds “Help Kim O’Brien get a boob job” to the list of things I’d do with a billion dollars.]

  • Panopea Abrupta

    For those Vulture Ministers at London Bridge today,
    splashing their yellow jackets around in photo-ops,
    and across Twitterlandia via JAW’s gleeful ignorance,
    perhaps you should heed this.
    There is more love and generosity of spirit contained
    in the family’s response to tragic loss than is dreamed
    of in your cruel brain-dead “philosophy.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e0853e8c11857d8a9d5246dac6270dc6d830b8dae26ab6a8c498959e63ecdb9.jpg

    I burst into tears when I read it.
    May no parents here ever lose a child.

    • GfldedKim

      Respect. Sadness.

    • iampissed

      And the caption should read…..who the fuck are you and why are you here. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/000e24682655bd77447068b95ec3cf01922a4cd3f3f0b5ca0a59a800ec3da8ec.jpg

      • scottmercer

        Making the cross look as much like a Christian cross as they are able.

      • Kestrel

        “We just need to take a quick picture and then we’ll be gone. I promise. Hey, got any bottled water we can have? Sammiches?”

      • MarcabExpat

        LOL the excellent look on that one guy’s face.

    • Rasha

      No words, but feel the need to burn a bit brighter and hotter to try to make up for this lost flame. Tomorrow is Double Red blood donation day. Wish I could give more.

      • Missionary Kid

        I gave last Tuesday. I’m up to 40 “gallons” (donations are actually measured in metric terms), but I cheated. My blood bank gives double credit for platelet donations, and I did it for years until the scar tissue in my arm got too great for the machine to tolerate. Also, when you do platelet apherisis, you can, in an emergency, donate within again in 48 hours, but that is rare, and the normal waiting period to donate again is only 3 weeks, instead of the 8 week waiting period for whole blood donations.

        Everyone, please donate.

    • Sherbet

      The Archibald family is full of grace, not necessarily in a religious context, but in the sense that they can rise above hate and violence even in their grief. I’m stunned.

    • And may all those that lost one recover. Tears with you Rosa

    • Rasha

      *gets in line for free helmet sizing*

    • Yup. Fun stuff watching this fall apart 🙂

    • MarcabExpat

      HA! Love the storefront. And is that a disgruntled apostate out front? 🙂

  • Rasha

    Not to be mean or anything, but has anyone else googled “Sean Bean death scenes”?

    • MarcabExpat

      Yeah. That’s a special rabbit hole.

  • Pezza
    • Observer

      Five grand?! Good luck, buddy!

      • Pezza

        I actually got my first edition first printing copy for 50$. Most first editions go for 200$ min and depending on the printing get higher. I’m waiting to see if someone can tell me if the signature on the one being sold in the link is authentic.

        • Eivol Ekdal

          Looks real to me and I am an expert, I used Google.

      • Rasha

        Shit. Did I overpay? I bid 6k Thetabucks.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Oh, OH…I bid minus three dollar 😉

    • Heh. Lol

  • nottrue
  • Ang Madog

    I don’t understand people who are out but still believe in LRH and/or the “tech”. It seems like a lot of ExCoS blame DM for ruining the church, while still thinking LRH was on to something. What?!?!

    The e-meter is junk science and “tech” is talking to a trained therapist and not having to go in debt to do so. In fact, every good thing I’ve seen exCoS talk about (and give credit to CoS or LRH) I learned growing up in my own family, regular public school, life, the Catholic Church, or therapy.

    Independent/Squirrel groups baffle me. People saying the CoS “helped” them in any way baffle me. LRH was crazy and “auditing” is an expensive therapy session with an untrained and unqualified therapist (and I use that title very loosely).

    Are people just that brainwashed that years later they can’t accept that they have been duped?

    • iampissed

      Simple answer yes….sometimes folks need a place land. That’s my 2CW.

    • bixntram

      Ang, I share your bafflement. I just don’t get all of this emphasis on the phony “tech.” I’ve gotten help in my life from all the things you’ve listed and a few others (therapy and AA meetings in the past, going to Confession and hell, even taking a public speaking class). It’s all good. I think scientology prays on those who are lonesome, insecure and gullible for a quick fix (people born or raised in it are a different category) You take a test and right away, they tell you “we can help you with that.” Then they sweet talk you and offer you a whole new social life with a new set of friends (“friends” who will disconnect from you in a flash if told to do so).

      One thing I’m curious about: do independent scientologists also avoid websites like this, Russell Miller’s book, etc. or anything else critical of LRH? Do they dismiss it all as a bunch of lies, just like the robots in the church do?

      • Puget Buckeye

        O/T bixntram. I noticed your name and avatar. Are you a fan of Bix Beiderbecke?

      • I_scream_truck

        I’ve gotten help in my life from all the things you’ve listed and a few others (therapy and AA meetings in the past, going to Confession and hell, even taking a public speaking class).

        Other low-cost life and mood improvement options are: exercise/runner’s high, music, sex, travel, love, friendship, quietude/meditation, laughter, hobbies, aisles of various self help books, Miss Manners, and Oprah. I’ve had awesome “wins” from all! (With special ungratefulness and no thanks to DM.

        • Puget Buckeye

          And chocolate.

          • I_scream_truck

            Yes! How could I forgot food? 🙂

    • MarcabExpat

      I think it’s because “the tech” is what first got them in and made them feel, at least in the early period, that they were benefitting. It’s such a happy emotional rush getting those first wins (and ironically one of the best analogies is that of getting high). You get mistreated later, after you’re firmly on the hook. So people don’t like being mistreated, but they still long for those wins they have fond memories of. Sure, a lot of it was bogus, but when someone’s in real emotional pain or confusion, even just being listened to can be helpful. So they get very fixated on repeating the “good,” even after things are irretrievably bad.

    • Kari Harris

      Its kinda like heroin and chasing the dragon. You are always looking for that first huge high. You can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to replicate the feelings you had before. Its the friendly outward appearance and love bombing that sucks new people in, then they get a few big wins from the beginning material, THEN they’re hooked. Now that its so obvious to younger people that the tech doesn’t work (mainly from being so horribly out of date and SCN’s blatant inability to evolve due to LRH), its virtually impossible to get new people in that aren’t the children of existing members.

    • PeaceMaker

      Ang, it’s a complicated construct, and I suggest reading as much as you can until you can start to make sense of it, but let me suggest two quick points:

      People almost innately seem to like to imagine that there was somehow an earlier, better time, and Scientology underwent a complex evolution from a young organization bursting at the seams with young baby boomers trying to help each other out to one struggling with numerous internal and external challenges, so it’s easy for those involved to engage in a sort of nostalgia, and find a scapegoat for what went wrong – and, that serves the process of denial about their having been mistaken all along.

      Dianetics and Scientology do mix a few arguably beneficial elements often initially delivered to people too young to have much chance to experience anything else, engages in concentrated hype and pressure to get people to attribute anything positive in their lives to Hubbard’s work, and requires people to sacrifice so much that they really have to justify it to themselves – so yes, a pretty powerful and lasting impression is created.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I don’t care what they believe as long as they aren’t harming others.
      Most of them seem to trickle off and eventually stop believing in the tech and LRH anyway.

    • Missionary Kid

      It always takes a while to decompress and leave something that one has accepted as a guide for their lives. It’s human nature, too, to try to resist all of the changes that are necessary for totally rejecting the bullshit that has been poured into one’s personage.

      I really left my fundamentalist Christian upbringing at least 40 years ago, yet small things still pop up occasionally from my subconscious. While my beliefs weren’t generally toxic, like those of $cientology, they were part and parcel of the controlling environment that I came out of.

      People don’t get involved in something unless they feel that it has something to offer to them. While the tech is total bullshit, it borrowed from existing knowledge of psychology and counseling. I am convinced that initially people get something to make them feel that their lives are better because of $cientology, but that they spent the rest of their time in $cientology trying to duplicate those “wins” .

      To add to the whole experience of someone entering $cientology, they are encouraged to attribute their new insights to $cientology, when those insights have mostly come either out of themselves, and often could be reached at much less cost and effort and more rapidly by a licensed therapist.

      The goal of a good therapist is to have their patient fire them, because they don’t need them any more. The goal of $cientology is to keep the followers contributing money and following LRH or DM’s dictates for the rest of their lives.

      Because someone has invested so much time, effort, and money into $cientology, it is hard to admit that they’ve been duped. It’s the sunk cost fallacy: because they’ve invested so much into $cientology, they can’t admit that what they did had no value.

      What people sometimes miss the most when they leave $cientology is the certainty that they experienced. Some people continue to act just as certain about their new set of beliefs, and some are just assholes that have to be right, and are unable to admit that they were wrong about their past beliefs.

      • Ang Madog

        I’m just figuring Discus out, so sorry for the late reply. I was brought up in a non-denominational Protestant church, and later in life converted to Catholicism. Since hearing about Scientology (through the A&E show) and obsessively watching and reading everything I could … I found it really disheartening that most everything that could be attributed to a “Cult” (Googling Scientology will lead you to Mormonism and Jehovah Witness) could also be found somewhere in the history of Catholicism or Christianity. I was agnostic from 16 through college. I think I may need to go back there.

        • Missionary Kid

          I am an atheist, and from my nickname, you may deduce that my parents were missionaries. It is a relatively small, fundamentalist denomination.

          I’m not one to try to convince you to become an atheist or agnostic (I was one for 40 years). It’s your decision My reasoning for leaving Christianity started with my not feeling in tune with what I was being taught, and then discovering the problems with fundamentalism by reading secular history and learning science.

          One of the things that I took from $cientology is the way that they elevated LRH in their history, making him smarter and more powerful as time went on. I now believe that the same thing was done with Jesus. The different gospels and other writings that have come to light, to me, show that the attitude towards proof was vastly different two millenia ago. My reasoning is that it was similar to accepting urban legends as true.

          I’m not saying that the bible is false, but that it is composed of myths. Myths aren’t untrue, but are just stories told to illustrate a point. The bible was written for, originally bronze age, then iron age, people. There are many human stories that are still valid for today’s world, but there are also ones that have no relevance.

          I discovered that the Gospels were written well after the Epistles that Paul wrote, and are the result of oral history. Most of what hell is comes from Dante, and the Jews don’t have hell.

          Catholicism has some advantages over Protestantism, and vice versa. Both have engaged in ethnic cleansing against the other, as well as other religions. During the latter Crusades, the Roman Catholics attacked the Eastern Orthodox Christians.

          In history, the aggrieved party always well remembers the slights and attacks, and murders by others. The Jews and Muslims remember the Inquisition, the Armenians remember the Turks killing many of them. The Jews remember the Holocaust.

          Both Protestants and Catholics in general do not prohibit their flock from reading or listening to someone who expresses a different view. A cult prohibits looking or hearing opposing views. When I was a fundamentalist, opposing views were cast in a light that were unfavorable, but I wasn’t prohibited from looking. I was steeped in dogma, however.

          Looking at Lofton’s 8 criteria (I’m just listing the criteria. You need to read his full explanations), they don’t really apply to most Christianity, although there are parts that do apply to a degree.
          (1) Milieu Control.
          (2) Mystical Manipulation.
          (3) Demand for Purity.
          (4) Confession. (This is public confession).
          (5) Sacred Science.
          (6) Loading the Language.
          (7) Doctrine over person.
          (8) Dispensing of existence.

  • flyonthewall

    Got back from Squeeze My Cans. It was good…really really good.

    • iampissed

      Tease

      • flyonthewall

        some of us value brevity

        • iampissed

          And your little dog to.

    • Kestrel

      What was your favorite part? Was there a Q and A after the performance?

      • flyonthewall

        My fav part was when she was doing OTVII and auditing the BT’s in her vagina. That was a for real part too, not making that up. The vagina thing was hilarious like a lot of the show was but Cathy really made auditing BT’s real for me. As a never-in, I imagined auditing BT’s and dismissed it as insanity and silly but when she reenacted it, I saw a real person and their pain, fear and all the insanity that Scientology brings a person. It was so fucking scary and creepy watching her do that and go insane while her kid is yelling through the door asking if she’s done yet. Gave me the shivers.

        It wasn’t all so serious though, there was a lot of humor sprinkled throughout. She did mention Tony as one of the people she read on the internet when she first got the guts to look online. I wasn’t sure that a single person on a bare stage with just a chair would keep my attention but I was with her the whole time and so was everyone else. She’s a brilliant performer. She did have a Q&A afterwards and was very warm and personable. I asked if she did volunteer work for OSA to get on the OT levels and she said no, basically the only thing she had to do was give money, which surprised me.

        I got a pic too. 🙂

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5992476605f947b446e1cbe7423152331e5617a99061d018bc08f235f8b70ff4.jpg

        • Sherbet

          Hey, where did you get the shirt, fly?

          • flyonthewall

            best thrift store find ever!

            I forgot to say thank you for the great show Cathy!

            • iampissed

              Bring to west coast

            • Sherbet

              You must have hooted when you found it in the thrift shop.

            • flyonthewall

              my brother in law found it and got it for me cuz he knows I’m obsessed. When he told me what he found, I sent Flylady to his house that night to get it so I didn’t have to wait until I saw him next. So yeah, I was just a bit excited. 🙂 It served me well in LA when I toured the Scientology sights too, they thought I was one of them until they realized who I was with.

            • Eivol Ekdal

              Did I see you in the movie Commando?

            • flyonthewall

              Let off some steam, Bennett

        • Puget Buckeye

          That is very cool.

        • iampissed

          You do know I hate you in the most loving way.

        • Thank you for the great report Fly bud!

          • flyonthewall

            YW. She’s doing a special thing at Howdycon too. You guys are in for a treat, I’m jealous. I didn’t ask her about it but whatever she does is going to be awesome.

            • I am not going this year, unfortunately. So that makes two of us.

              I asked Cathy to put the show on YouTube twice. Last year and just now. I think she will do it eventually, since she used the word yet. Can’t wait.

            • flyonthewall

              Oh! She’s going to turn it into a musical cabaret show! I just remembered that. Maybe when the show has run its course and is over she’ll put it on youtube? I don’t imagine she would when she’s still putting it on, might depress attendance at the live shows.

            • Ha! Cool! That’s her point too re: depress attendance, on the other hand, it might increase the interest by wider exposion and boost the live shows attendance.. I don’t know.
              Sent her that great pic of you two a few minutes ago.

            • flyonthewall

              Cool, thnx man

              Yeah, could go either way with youtube really, hard to say. Could also be an artistic integrity thing. Plays are meant to be experienced live and in person, seems like it’s against the spirit of the medium to put it on youtube.

            • Welcome. Yes, I can see that point.

        • Kestrel

          Thank you, Fly.

        • Fly Lady

          Thanks for letting me go with you. It was fantastic.

          • flyonthewall

            a little arm candy never hurts

            • Juicer77

              Awww

          • Supper Powers

            Sorry I couldn’t make it. Hope to visit y’all this month!

            • flyonthewall

              i hate you

            • Supper Powers

              I’m very hateable. I understand. See you soon!

          • Thank you for keeping him out of trouble.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Great review and pic Fly. Really makes me want to see it!

        • TexasBroad

          Thanks for the review – so glad you go to go!

        • John Prince

          Cute Babe, that Cathy 😍. .nice t-shirt Fly. .

    • Missionary Kid

      I read through all of your comments on this thread. Thank you for letting us know how you enjoyed the show. At least I’ll be able to see her at HowdyCon II.

  • Sherbet

    Keep your damn Sappiness booklets, fake Ministers. Per Variety: ” ‘One Love Manchester’ raises $2.6 million in donations in three hours.” This was for the people affected by the bombing at the Ariana Grande concert a couple of weeks ago.

    • John Prince

      Jolly good News!

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Harpoona Frittata

      “We are done yet.” Yep, stick a fork in that cult, it’s soooo done 😉

    • Bob Crouch

      I wonder what tin-foil hat Larry means by “major target of” etc. Has he had the Rothschilds send private detectives after him, harass him at airports, blanket his neighborhood with leaflets about being a dangerous cult member, tried to get his wife to divorce him and his family to cut him off? Perhaps the Rothschilds have picketed his work place and followed him with a gaggle of cameras, at least? Set him up for a crime? Made his pets disappears?

      Surely, as a “leading champion” for spiritual freedom, with a billion year slavery contract always ready to be signed, at least a few of these things must have been done to him?

      If not, we all know who does these sorts of things. It’s been well documented not just feverishly fantasized about. And the name Rothschild somehow just never came up!

      About the worst thing Larry has to worry about is that he may flip the TV dial to the wrong place or accidentally click a forbidden link online. In that case, 44 years of donations will be quickly forgotten; his “eternity” will vanish quicker than you can say “SP.” And THEN some of these things may indeed hapen to him. And still, no Rothschild in sight even then!

    • Len Zinberg

      And all along, I thought it was the psychs, but Larry is saying it was the Rothschild banksters, those wealthy, wascally Jews. As it turns out Larry isn’t alone in this belief. Stormfront echoes it, as does Farrakhan. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mAwjQpOalM
      And digging further, it turns out that Hitler himself, or rather, Nazi propagandists claimed the same thing. Larry, Farrakhan, and Hitler all make the same claim, and Farrakhan adds “You better not open your mouth to call me anti-semite.”
      STAND is doing a hell of a job “exposing” bigotry

      • Harpoona Frittata

        I can never listen to more than a minute or two of Minister Farsekhan’s increasingly demented gibberish, but I really do feel sorry for the big crowds of NOI folks who have to suffer through it, and especially for the women in those bizarre costumes.

        • I’m not sure that the guys in the “Fruit of the Loom Islam” stuff have it any better.

          https://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/tOWX_VLLJxAvNYLLoqVspw/o.jpg

          Nation of Islam is to Islam as Scientology is to Science.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            Great analogy!

            I’m sure that lil davey – ever sensitive to superficial appearances of all kinds – thought it would be great PR to cozy up to the NOI in order to have plenty of pics of black and white folks getting together in fraternal alliance. That way he can say, “Hey look, we’re not an almost lily white religious group which believes in racist ideology”.

            The trouble there is that if you scan the crowd pics at their big events, it’s like a Trump rally, with the very few black folks in attendance strategically seated so as to be easily noticeable. But if you check out some NOI crowd pics, it’s the exact opposite! It’s like these two completely racist groups found a way to deal with their horrible racial separatist reputations that allowed each to continue on exactly as before, but with the mutually beneficial result of being able to pose as not being what they actually are.

            Strange days indeed! I’d love to hear the story of how Minister Farsekhan first had the revelation that the totally racist “white devil” Hubbard had something important to offer his followers. Did he get the audio book version of DMSMH from some thrift store dollar bin and start listening to it as a sleep aid, only to wake one fine to morning to the revelation that Elron’s concept of the engram, as encysted moments of pain and unconsciousness, completely resonated with his understanding of the very deep-rooted pain and suffering of his people? I sure wouldn’t be surprised if his initial interest was sparked in some similar way.

      • Stupid Farrakhan, it was “12 (((bankers)))” not 5 (((Rothschild Bankers))).*

        * https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/get-to-know-the-memes-of-the-alt-right-and-never-miss-a-dog-whistle-again

    • Thank you for this link.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Thanks for posting this! Excellent review that also touches on how horrid her experience was!

      • Call me Jen. I need to talk.

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          I’ll call as soon as I get home. Nee bonked her head on the playground so I’m at school then off to urgent care (she’s fine, they’re just extra careful w/head injuries) so I’ll call the moment I get home. Hope everything’s ok, lovely! 😘

  • chukicita
    • Bob Crouch

      A few more exec’s will go to the Hole for this one for sure!

  • Observer
    • Puget Buckeye

      Maybe it’s simply not his color.

    • salin

      How did you even get the robe on, let alone tied? My dog (and his predecessors) would have acted as if this was the best game of tug or war – ever” just putting the robe on – don’t think we could ever get to the point of tying the belt on the robe.

      • Puget Buckeye

        What you don’t see is the full set of pajamas underneath. Top AND bottoms. And slippers, too.

      • Observer

        We have dachshunds–it would never happen, besides which you couldn’t see them if we did manage to get the robe on.

    • Wait. That looks like me !

  • salin

    A reminder to click “recommend” for today’s Underground Bunker Post (*applause*) and the ensuing comments – including Pan’s disappearing/clearing mission series. The recommend is like an upvote. As an enticement – a recent (May 27) real space opera rather than the induced fabricated past/life space opera induced as reality by L Ron: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=135971&PHPSESSID=6jv2mc9qs1afimfdetfcht9rm7

    • And if you want to shop… UseTonys link 🙂

    • Yes and order from Amazon 🙂

  • TexasBroad

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d3ca4775246de297573efeff6f6d20f269bdc8e9b1e4c8a7597a53bfb07a0e1.jpg
    All is well now, but we had quite the storm tonight.
    Not my pic – grabbed from twitter as storm rolled in over downtown Houston.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Holy cow! I hope you at least got some good rain out of it.

      • TexasBroad

        Almost 2″ in an hour.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Double holy cow.

    • Robert Ramsay
    • FredEX2

      Wow! That’s quite a storm…and picture. Glad you’re ok.

    • TheLurkingHorror

      That is a nasty looking storm!

    • Oh what a dramatic pic. Glad your OK and enjoying. 🙂

    • Juicer77

      Glad you are ok. Looks like an upside-down ocean!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Glad you’re okay hon. I hate when we get those doughnut hole storms like that. *shudder*

  • Zucchero – Wonderful Life

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H4wgcXh1u4

    • Newiga

      Such a beautiful cover. T_T

  • outraged

    That smarmy guy up there needs to come with a warning message.
    Beware: This asshole is not what he seems. He is WORSE!

  • Taffy Sinclair

    So weird “Squirrel tech” goes unpunished.

    • Missionary Kid

      What are you referring to?

      • Quoted paragraph in gray box above and paragraph immediately below that.

        • I don’t see your gray box or the paragraph. Pls explain. This world has been thru enough. Let’s not complicated it.

    • Juicer77

      That is astonishing. Truly. Has Missmanage lost control or just doesn’t care what the minions do?

  • Jimmy3

    I like to picture doing it in the batmobile and my bed is a batmobile in for real life

  • Kaarli Makela

    Awwwww sheeeesh!
    ‘So I’m in beautiful New Zealand, the land that time forgot … so lovely, so varied …
    And all I want to do is go inside some building and … do Scientology!’
    That’s just tragic! :p blah!!!!

  • rayne troika sheep troll

    digusting

  • richelieu jr

    OMG- “Dick Sweatman”?

    What is with these Scilon monikers?

    As soon as the woman who leaked the NSA documents (because, you know, Bad Monkey!), “Reality Winner” (I seriously light actually have an infarctus or an orgasm if her middle name was “Show”, 0r she turned out to be TV!), I said, with a name like that, she has to have at least gone ‘clear’.