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Remembering another Scientology ‘warrior’ — with the help of Mark Bunker

[Dennis Clarke, mastering chewing gum tech]

On May 9, a Scientologist named Dennis Clarke died in Hawaii, where he’d been in failing health for some time. There was some discussion on the usual forums about Clarke’s extensive history in the church. He had been a Freedom Medal winner for his work as president of CCHR, the Scientology front group that agitates against psychiatry. Later he had become disillusioned when the church he had served for so long provided no help after he had had a stroke that left him partially paralyzed.

Hearing about Clarke again evoked for us another time and place — the rough pickets outside the Fort Harrison Hotel in the early 2000s, which were caught on tape by Mark Bunker. It was a time when Lisa McPherson’s death was producing terrible press for the church, and when the Lisa McPherson Trust, funded by businessman Robert Minton, was regularly picketing Scientology’s most holy site.

Those were very different times. You can see in Bunker’s videos that the few picketers were swarmed by aggressive Scientologists, who shouted at them and shoved them. And none was more imposing or intimidating than Clarke, who was huge. We couldn’t help being curious about what Bunker thought of the news that his old nemesis had gone to his reward. So we asked him.

“Well, I’m sorry to see him pass,” Bunker told us. “I heard how he was discarded by Scientology and in bad shape in his last years. I have long said there is only one Scientologist I have met and not liked and that was Clarke. He was a bully and a tough guy whose behavior I could not entirely blame on L. Ron Hubbard. If you watch my video on Scientology and the Clearwater police, you will see what I mean. I have several examples of him punching people or trying to provoke a fight in that video. What I don’t have on tape is the time Clarke showed up at the LMT back door when Jesse Prince was there with his girlfriend. Clarke told him, ‘Get out of my town, n—–‘.”

Here’s that video Mark is referring to, which in its last third contains “Dennis Clarke’s greatest hits.”

 

 
“The LMT years, 2000 to 2001, were the most fascinating years of my life, largely because of the interactions I had with many Scientologists who came out to handle me,” Bunker says. “Most of them I enjoyed seeing. They would say the most outrageous things in front of my camera, words that never once bothered me. Dennis Clarke was different. His violence made it impossible for me to forgive him. You can see in the Mad Picket video how out of control he could get. He was forced by the police to leave the protest over his outbursts.”

It’s also great to see Bunker in action in that video. We asked him how things were going for him lately. After moving back to Clearwater, he’d run into a string of bad luck that had slowed down his work on his feature-length documentary, Knowledge Report.

“I am doing better. My health has been on an upswing and I have been putting my life back in order, coming up on one year at my latest job, where a few had even heard about Wise Beard Man before I entered the building. As of two weeks ago, I also now have a three day weekend allowing me to work more on the film,” he says.

We’re glad to hear it.

 
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Clearwater land swap with Scientology

Tampa Bay Times reporter Tracey McManus has a new piece today about a land swap being considered between the city of Clearwater, Florida and the Church of Scientology. No, the swap does not involve the 1.4-acre parcel the two were just wrestling over a couple of months ago, so calm down.

But Mayor George Cretekos did admit to McManus that he’s not entirely comfortable with the idea of swapping parcels with the church so soon after the bruising fight they all just went through, and good for him.

We talked to Cretekos recently and asked him what we were asked by many readers: What would keep the city from selling the City Hall-adjacent parcel that the city paid the Clearwater Marine Aquarium $4.25 million for, but that Scientology leader David Miscavige had said he would fork over up to $15 million to own? Cretekos assured us that he was committed to the city’s “Imagine Clearwater” plan, which is why it bought the land from the aquarium.

Eventually, he told us, the city would produce a “request for proposal” regarding the 1.4-acre parcel — outlining specific desires for how they wanted the land used — and then open the bidding to anyone, including the church itself. But even if the church did offer a bid, it would have to abide by the RFP and deliver what the city wants for the land use.

Anyway, that’s down the road. For now, McManus has described a different swap so that the city can get a parking lot near some new apartments and the church can get some small parcels near the “L. Ron Hubbard Hall” it plans to build.

As far as we know, no dolphins will be harmed in the transaction. But we’re glad to see Cretekos isn’t going to accept it without some additional vetting.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

It’s a Mathers sighting! Actual caption: “With my friends from Kazakhstan & Russia at Flag.”

 

 
Actual caption from Scientology front-group pusher Kerri Kasem: “Off to do my radio show and then on a plane to New York. Hosting the DrugFreeWorld.us event with Rebecca Minkoff!”

 

 
We’re not entirely sure what the theme of the fundraiser is here from the KC folks, but it’s pretty freaky.

 

 
Meanwhile, in New Zealand…

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25 at the Residence Inn Denver City Center. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,768 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,525 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,871 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,365 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,405 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,117 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 643 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,732 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,872 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,192 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,167 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 523 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,825 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 932 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,334 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,207 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 788 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,293 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,537 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,646 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 1, 2017 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Observer

    I’m not seeing TC’s mummy movie no matter how many times they shove the trailer down my throat. >:-(

    • Kim O’Brien

      i have the scream , on my phone. cracks me up every time

    • Liberated

      Me either.

    • iampissed

      I’m in.

    • Jimmy3

      I’ don’t care about TC, and munmy movies are pretty damn suck. But I do want to see how they tie it into the other movies and Dr. Jekyl. I think a modern Jekyl/Hyde movie could be good.

      • EmmaDaoust

        You know what sucks? Dracula movies.

        • Jimmy3

          I see how you wrapped that.

          • EmmaDaoust

            It will never be said that I could walk away from a bad pun. I know, all puns are bad.

      • chukicita

        I’m waiting for the It remake. And ordering a box of Depends.

        • Jimmy3

          We all float down here!

      • Observer

        TC could play both roles since he’s had so much practice being a nice guy to people he works with on movie sets, and a monster to those unfortunate enough to be part of his private life.

      • Missionary Kid

        I don’t need, ” a modern Jekyl/Hyde movie”. We’ve got DM and Trump.

      • A bit of Dr Jekyl in “Penny Dreadful.” Not a lot, mind you, but then again it did have pretty much everything else and the kitchen sink…

      • flyonthewall

        did you ever see Edge of Sanity? Anthony Perkins is Dr. Jekyll and it’s freakin wild. He smokes crack (they pretend like it’s something else but it’s totally crack) and turns into Mr. Hyde! Shit you not, it’s crazy

        he kills hookers and stuff as Mr. Hyde. So funny

    • Phoebequeen

      Me either. I turn the channel when Greta comes on too. I saw where she went to Libya a few weeks ago and I had to wonder if she wore a yellow shirt?

  • EmmaDaoust

    Today is World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day. Brought to you by Kleenex.

  • Vaquera

    I’ve had lemon drop martinis and a half lb of bacon for dinner tonight. Is that so wrong?

    • Sherbet

      If that diet could make me as slim as you are, pass the gin.

      • Vaquera

        These are Titos, but I get ya.

    • AntoniaW

      Well, you wouldn’t be happy moving to Saudi.

      • Vaquera

        Yeah, it’s a southern thang.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Sounds good to me. You have the important food groups in there.

      • Vaquera

        Slab of meat….the most important meal of the day. (Apologies to the proprietor)

        • Puget Buckeye

          But you had fruit as well. And now you won’t have to worry about getting scurvy. Not only delicious but preventative.

          • Vaquera

            True, it was fresh lemon juice. Thanks for the justification.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Happy to help. Simply “girl math” if you know what I mean.

    • daisy

      Only if you had too much mix , otherwise it sounds like a lovely meal.

    • Phoebequeen

      sniff, sniff, sniff….yum…bacon.

      • Vaquera

        OMG. It’s local pepper bacon that I bought at the farmer’s market over the weekend. Amaze.

        • Phoebequeen

          Mouth starting to water. Every thing is better with a little bacon.

        • Missionary Kid

          Often, stuff that is made by someone individually has so much flavor that it spoils one for the regular, supermarket bought product.

          I’ve been watching “A Chef’s Life” on PBS, and they have featured a lot of different farm products that are locally produced. The one on curing hams, as well as a description of how fatback is made and used had my mouth watering. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/dining/vivian-howard-north-carolina-chef-and-the-farmer.html?_r=0

          I was lucky to spend summers on a farm and eat fresh products from the garden and chickens and eggs and milk (I didn’t like it, because it was skim milk – they sold the cream). I flew in to visit my relatives years ago, and the person I was with had never had peas fresh out of the garden. They blew him away.

          • Vaquera

            I grew up spending multiple weeks every summer on my grandma’s farm in the Ozarks. She even named a cow after me. Made mud pies in the the pig’s pen, gathered eggs, milked the heifers, picked the veggies and followed the chicken’s bodies as they flapped around the yard after Grandpa chopped off their heads on a stump…..for Sunday dinner, ya’ know.

            Favorite part was making fruit tarts. Grammy always said, “The messier the kitchen, the better it tastes.” She was the best. We had regular flour fights which was heaven for a seven year old.

            Add: They had a water hand pump in the kitchen sink and an outhouse a ways back. Good times.

            • EmmaDaoust

              Hmm, a cow named Cowgirl. 🙂

            • Vaquera

              Hi honey. Well, you know my first name (and I know you will keep it on the DL), so just add “bell” to the end and there you have it. Cracked me up when she’d go out to the field to called her in for milking. “________bell. Oh, _______bell!”

            • EmmaDaoust

              Adorable!

              There’s no point in saying have a great time at HowdyCon, because I know you will. Have a drink for me! You know, I can’t believe it’s 2 years since the Toronto conference.

            • Missionary Kid

              The John Deere tractors that my cousins had are now classified as antiques. They were getting some real protection from the elements when they had an umbrella on them. I learned how to drive on them, with a hand clutch and hand throttles and right and left brakes. You could get it up to about 25 mph on the road. When there was mud, I was always careful not to lean too far over the tire, because it wasn’t fun to get hit with a mud clod.

              After he retired, my grandfather leased his farm and had a Ford (Also called a Fordson) tractor. When I was little, he would put me in his lap and let me steer.

              On my uncle’s farm, I had the job of feeding and getting the eggs from the chickens as soon as I got up. I hated to do things before breakfast, and I always got pecked, and I disliked it.

              Killing chickens was an excuse for my cousins to get out the .22 and shoot their head off. The ones they shot were the ones that were not in the coop.

              Since I was the city kid, I was the one who had to run ahead and open up the gates. Some of the equipment was run by belts, and some by Power Take-Offs. Farming was, and still is, one of the most dangerous professions.

              They had a Belgian Mare that we would occasionally ride, but she was barn sour. Going away from the barn, you might get her up to a trot, but going back, a gallop was easy. Then she’s try to wipe you off on the barn door post. We rode her without a saddle, and, since I was a kid, and she was so wide, it was almost like doing the splits. The Belgian was used to pull the rope that operated the pulley system that lifted the hay bales off the wagon and up into the barn.

              We had electricity and running water, but no air conditioning, and the hot, humid nights were something else. I slept in the same room with my two cousins still at home, and we had one fan that would oscillate back and forth, but I’d wake up in the middle of the night and find it running continuously at one cousin or another. I’d usually turn the oscillator back on, but once or twice, I did just point it at my bed.

            • Vaquera

              Barn sour…a ever pervasive problem. I get you.
              Shooting domestic pen chickens with a .22 is just plain mean. Sorry.
              My dad used to get $.25 a day for riding on the back of the neighbor’s field oxen each summer.
              Then again, that was in the 1930s. My Gram was happy to have him away from her hemstrimgs.

            • Missionary Kid

              The horse was barn sour because we never had time enough to ride her as much as she needed because my uncle had us working nearly all the time, except for Sundays, when the day was pretty much taken up with Church, Sunday Dinner, and church activities.

              I should have been clearer. The chickens that were shot were running loose in the barnyard, were pretty wily, and couldn’t be caught. They lived off of the spilled corn kernels and would peck at the cobs in the crib through the spaces between the boards meant to dry the corn. IIRC, they would roost in the rafters of the barn and open sheds.

              Shooting chickens in a coop wouldn’t be a good thing. There’s too many other things to hit accidentally. My cousins were very careful to make sure that nothing that could be damaged behind the chicken.

    • Liberated

      Sounds like covfefe to me.

      Oh shit I spelled it wrong.

      • Vaquera

        Is that different from covfefe?

        • Liberated

          The first time, I corrected.

          • Vaquera

            S’ok. New words are hard. 🙂

            • Liberated

              Word !

    • Eclipse-girl

      I have spent the last three days conveying my daughter and her partner from one apartment to another. I am glad they felt they could call on me during some trying times.

      I would have sucked down the pitcher of maritinis and eaten all the bacon.

      • Vaquera

        I’d have fried up the other 1/2 lb just for you.
        Lovely to see you, dearie.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I am always around. Just silent these days, but the smell of bacon is not something I can not resist.

          • Vaquera

            You are always welcome with open Bunker arms.
            And fried, smoked pork. xoxo

            • Eclipse-girl

              You know how to make me drool.

    • April

      As long as you eat reasonably healthy most of the time, a little splurge now and then isn’t going to hurt you. Now, if that’s your dinner every night, there might be a problem. 😀

  • Phoebequeen

    Howdy kids. Just zipping through and catching up. Always trying to catch up.
    Holy crap, that video is something. Had not seen it before. There is truly something vile in the air down there. Those people are nuts.
    Also, not sure if you guys happened to see the giggling and vomit inducing statement by Donnie’s White House press person, Hope Hicks, but it sounded just like something from these whackadoodles. Good Lord.

  • Liberated

    Al Franken for president !

  • Taffy Sinclair

    I need somone to talk to right now, I’m afraid I’ll do something stupid…

    • Missionary Kid

      I hope that the “something stupid” isn’t harmful. Can we help? Draw on your avatar’s 9 lives.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Never, I love life.

        • Missionary Kid

          In a way, I look at cats having alternative lives that they seem to go through each day, not ending them. I didn’t mean to imply you were thinking of ending your life, but shifting it, like cats do daily.

        • FredEX2

          Sending you some ((hugs))❤️

    • FredEX2

      What do you mean Taffy? Everything ok w/You?

      • Taffy Sinclair

        No, it’s bad. I’m really hurt by the one who was supposed to be my protecter. It sucks!!

        • FredEX2

          I’m sorry you are hurting. Always hurts the most when people we are closest to & trust let us down. Things always seem better with a hot bath and a good nights sleep. What can you do to comfort & take care of yourself tonight?

        • Missionary Kid

          Betrayal is a bitch.

          • Taffy Sinclair

            Damn right!!!

            • Missionary Kid

              The experience that really pissed me off was when, after discovering something, I was told, “I didn’t tell you because I didn’t want to hurt you.”

              I figured out, quite rapidly, that the person that they were trying not to hurt was themselves, not me. I would have been pissed, but not as pissed as I was to have been mislead.

              I’d rather be told something critical to my face than to find out that someone is hiding something.

        • Liberated

          Believe it or not I know how you feel.
          Talk to me.

          • Taffy Sinclair

            Happy to talk to you. My husband is a cheating dog and I HATE HIM!!! He even tried to get our son to lie for him!!!

            • Liberated

              He’s a rotten fucker..to hell with him.
              That piece of shit I was married to for way too long lied to my son too.
              They say horrible things about you to diminish what they’ve done and try to get others to agree with them.
              Fuck them ….I hate them too.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              why does he LIE!!!???

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I need to ask the dudes here…. is any, ANY pussy THAT GOOD????

            • Liberated

              No, no pussy is that good, and that’s not why they do it.
              They do it to make their sorry-ass selves feel good about themselves.
              Hurting you makes him feel like he’s cool, like a “real man”…tell him he’s an immature piece of shit!

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I dont get it! I go get weekly spray tans, I get hair extensions, blue contacts, I’ A FUKKIN BARBIE for him!!! Did I neglect somethig????

            • Missionary Kid

              It sounds like he was trying to remold you into something you weren’t. Possibly, he was trying to make you an extension of himself or in the image in his mind, and when he did, he didn’t like you because you weren’t you.

            • Liberated

              Don’t you dare criticize yourself, I mean it. You’re a beautiful girl, and that has nothing to do with it.
              He’s the one that’s insecure…I’d bet money you’re a lot better looking than him.
              No one will ever be beautiful enough, cause that’s not the problem.
              He just wants to make you feel like it is. Fuck him.

            • FredEX2

              Taffy dear, it’s time to do things for yourself…not him. Find the things in life that make YOU happy…you shouldn’t have to be a ‘Barbie’ for anyone. Be you. You are enough. One shouldn’t have to try so hard to make sure their mate loves them. It’s good to take care of yourself… but do it for you.

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Never change your looks for anyone. Do it for yourself or not at all.

            • Missionary Kid

              AMEN!

            • Syd

              No girl – listen to this….. He is doing that because he’s a loser and he just HAS to have new or strange P in his life to make him feel desirable. I don’t care if you were having sex with him 3 times a day, it’s not that – he needs MULTIPLE people to convince him he’s worthy. HE has the problem, not you! My ex-husband pulled this shit with me but I was too stupid to admit it to myself and I played the fool for way too long. We finally got a divorce and he is now with the biggest loser of a wife I could have ever hoped for and I have a fantastic husband. So….Karma I guess. You will be OK and you’ll be much happier in the long run – I promise.

            • Missionary Kid

              He, like all liars, would rather avoid problems by lying about them, and doing what his 12 year old self would like to do.

            • Liberated

              Cause he can’t face the truth.
              Has he made you feel like you deserved it somehow ?

            • Taffy Sinclair

              yes

            • Taffy Sinclair

              he is out fucking her RIGHT NOW!

            • Liberated

              He’s a rotten cock-sucker !

              Throw his sorry ass out !

            • Taffy Sinclair

              sadly, propery laws don’t work like that,,,,, and he has all the muscle… typical story of a subserient housewife

            • Missionary Kid

              1) Get a good therapist. 2) Get the biggest asshole attorney you can.

            • Liberated

              Yeah, I know how that goes, but at least start thinking about it.
              They just love to make you feel dependent.

              The fact you’re seeing the truth and talking about it means you are on the road to your own freedom. Sometimes the hardest things in life are blessings in disguise.

              No one was more trapped than I, and I’m pretty sure I’m a lot older than you.
              My life changed when that scum-bag I was married to stopped walking thru my door.
              What I realized was once I saw things for what they were there was nothing I could do about, the change just happens. Really.

              And I finally found myself.

            • Missionary Kid

              To find oneself is, hopefully one’s destination.

            • Liberated

              It is. I was buried but now I’m not.

            • Missionary Kid

              Kinda like Jesus, huh? 🙂

            • Liberated

              Shut up.

            • Missionary Kid

              I hope I didn’t offend you. I was just riffing on the resurrection that takes place when one finds themselves.

            • Liberated

              Yeah, I know…shut up anyway.:-)

            • FredEX2

              Call a locksmith & Change your locks. Toss out his suitcase with a note.

            • Missionary Kid

              Be careful of that. State laws can cause you problems later on. My advice is to consult an attorney, immediately.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I hear you, yes there are laws. But the spirit is right!!!

            • FredEX2

              That’s the part of cheating that hurts the most…not so much the sex…that’s bad enough…but it’s the betrayal of trust. Lying to one’s mate, even without sex…is being unfaithful. I know it hurts. But it’s not your fault he chooses to do these things. They lie bc they know it’s wrong. And they’ll deny it even if you catch them in the act.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I’ve caught him talking/texting!! Yr so right!!

            • FredEX2

              Oh I’m so sorry. I know this one too. If I tell you some stories will it help?

              PS: When someone cheats in a relationship…it is an issue with THEM…not you. Even some of the loveliest women have had men in their lives that have been cheaters. Like Christy Brinkley, Halle Berri, Elizabeth Hurley,…etc. I know you must be hurt, but don’t blame yourself or let him blame you or make excuses.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              evidently, it IS me

            • Missionary Kid

              Look, the task that someone tries to achieve is to convince the other person that the problem isn’t with them, but the other person. It is demeaning, destroys a person’s self-image and trust. There is usually a lot of projection involved.

              It is similar to what Co$ does in accusing everyone else of their own crimes. I later realized that their accusations were a preemptive strike to keep me on the defensive, and to keep me from being myself, because I can be quite introspective when criticized.

              I have to take responsibility for my own failures, but I made the mistake for a while of accepting the word of a liar. I realized later that, to them, they weren’t lying. They believed everything that came out of their mouth when they said it. I labeled this person the “Queen of historical revisionism” because past circumstances were always remembered in their favor, and they didn’t take responsibility for things they did.

              I now understand better what I was wrong about, but I also know that I wasn’t the only guilty party.

            • Liberated

              It’s not either !

            • iampissed

              If I might….when evidently is used…it isn’t.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Taffy, I know you don’t know me, but I’d like to respond. If you’re saying that it IS you and not the cheater, wrong. You’re NOT the one who went outside the marriage, you’re NOT the one who kept secrets, you’re NOT the one who lied or asked others to lie for them. YOU DON’T OWN THIS. The fault lies with one person and one person only. And it’s not you. I understand that you feel betrayed. But don’t let that weakened state let someone else convince you that you did something wrong. My 2 cents. I send you hugs.

            • FredEX2

              No it’s not. A cheater will say cruel things and blame others…especially their spouse…to try to justify their actions and ease their guilt. NOT you.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              i know yr right, fredex… I apprciate you!

            • Missionary Kid

              PROJECTION, just like LRH and DM and Co$.

        • Eclipse-girl

          ME: being an asshole, and an older woman –

          My partner should protect me but doesnt always. He does not know all of my buttons after all these years. (30 +)

          No One Protects Me But Me. Not Partners or Siblings. They can be very close but still not get my experience through life.

          I came close to divorcing my husband because he could not stand up to his sister, and the things she said. I realized I loved the person for who they were. And that we all have failings. A part of who they were was a person who avoided conflict. He is passive – agressive – but I have trained him ( and I hate that idea) that he does not get away with that shit with me.

          ETA: Did not know about the texting and other BS. My apologies. Lieing (lying) is not something that I can condone or was done to me

    • daisy

      Do nothing right now. If it stupid definitely do not do it. Your post was scary and upsetting , talk to us.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        I’m sorry. I’m hurt by someone who’s supposed to love me

        • daisy

          (((((( hugs )))))I am not sure how to help you. Hurting yourself or others as you know will not help. I am sorry they did that to you. I hope you can sleep and deal with this in the morning. Good luck and the I send warm thoughts and prayers.

        • Ouch well if it makes you feel any better I’m pretty sure sleep and hugs will help. Just think of those SO members that get hurt and they think its just a key-in from their reactive bank or later a BT. Its almost refreshing now to feel pain like that now but not yours 🙁 ouch. XOXO

      • Taffy Sinclair

        I will do nothing but go to bed, sorry, Daise

        • iampissed

          Promise!

    • And? Oh I see down line. (((Hugs)))

    • Eclipse-girl

      Its 2 hours late and several dollars short. You were hurt. (((HUGS)))

      SLEEP. Then think about it again.

  • daisy

    Discus you SSSSSSuuuuuuCCCCCkkkkkk 15 min to load

    • This might have been your lucky break 🙂

  • Taffy Sinclair

    You guys rock!! I’m glad I can count on my bunker-mates for real talk!!! Love y’al!!! I have some suitcases to pack 😉

    • Missionary Kid

      Why not make him pack? Whatever you do, (((((HUGS))))).

    • Puget Buckeye

      Good God, you’re giving me flashbacks. I hope you have a soft place to land for the next few days/weeks. One little piece of advise that someone gave me, and at the time it seemed really silly. Please, please, please be careful when you’re driving. It’s very easy to let your mind wander and to replay things in your head. Be mindful and take care. My heart is hurting for you.

      • Missionary Kid

        Totally OT. Does Puget Buckeye mean you’re originally from Ohio, and now live close to Puget Sound? Don’t answer if it reveals more than you want.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Yes and yes.

          • Missionary Kid

            In a two day visit to Washington, It was sunny just about the entire time, and I was sprinkled on only for about 10 minutes. It was also beautiful.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Only 2 days? What part of the state did you visit?

            • Missionary Kid

              Seattle and Whidbey Island.

            • Puget Buckeye

              It is beautiful here and I love where I live. Very proud to be Ohio born and raised. But I wouldn’t trade living here for anything. I fit in just fine. Birkenstocks and all!

            • Missionary Kid

              When I’m in Portland, OR, I feel that somehow, I’m in a time warp and it’s the 1960’s and early 70’s.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Maybe that’s why it feels so comfortable. Sort of the sweet spot.

            • Missionary Kid

              Portland seems pretty tolerant, but the white supremacists have taken advantage of it. I believe Portland will work it out.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Yeah, did you hear that they’re thinking of changing the rally or what ever the hell it was from Portland to Seattle? Our bike cops are ready. Bring it.

            • Mooser42001

              There’s a current in the Pacific which moderates the climate in the Puget Sound region, but I forget its name.

            • Missionary Kid

              How to win a bar bet with a fact. If you go directly west from the northernmost point of Maine, you will cross right through the runway of SeaTac Airport.

            • Missionary Kid

              To add, Portland OR (45.5231° N), is further north than Portland ME (43.6615° N)

            • Puget Buckeye

              I dig Portland. “Keep Portland Weird” Love to take the train there for the weekend.

            • Vaquera

              Portland appropriated that phrase from Austin.
              But in the end, they are on an emotional par.

            • Missionary Kid

              Another sign that is still sometimes seen is, “Don’t Californicate Oregon.”

            • Puget Buckeye

              I would love love love to visit Austin. Have a drink along the river and watch the bats. They fascinate me.

            • Vaquera

              My 2nd favorite city in the USA.
              Luckily I get to visit relatives there on a regular basis.
              Ok. Now you have me craving taco trucks. Damn your village! 🙂

            • Puget Buckeye

              Sorry.

            • Vaquera

              Pourquoi?
              add: Oh, I get it. Tacos.

            • Vaquera

              Now my tummy is growling for Torchy’s. Derek, dude, you know what I mean.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Oh man, you’re gonna switch languages on me? OK if I stick with English? I didn’t mean to make you crave tacos. Nothing worse than a crazy craving at this time of night. That just means you’ll go overboard in the next day or two. Or dream about tacos. With juicy steak bits. And sweet tomato. And spicy onion. And cool letttuce. And creamy sour cream.

            • Vaquera

              Admit it. You’re a taco pusher. Dude, I just need a single. Something spicy to tide me over. I’ll pay you tomorrow. Promise. A soft shell, some shredded lettice, crumbled cotija, bbq cabrito.

            • Robert Eckert

              Only problem with Austin is, it’s surrounded by all that Texas! *ducks*

        • Wow! You are OT MK.

          • Missionary Kid

            People often give clues in the name they pick. I’m definitely not OT. I’ve just seen a fair amount of avatars. I guessed on the order of where they’re from and are now. It could easily be reversed.

    • Take care. Hope you have a safe place to land. What about son?

      • Taffy Sinclair

        he’s loved thoroughly by Both sides of fam…. he/s good!

    • Puget Buckeye

      Wanna really fuck with him? Take the can opener.

      • Vaquera

        Are you kidding? Taking the remote control.

        • lol

          • Vaquera

            To the TV, the cable box, the Roku and the Apple TV.
            Not my first rodeo.

            • I hear you 🙂 or just the batteries ha ha

            • Puget Buckeye

              Brilliant!

            • Vaquera

              You can replace batteries at the local mini mart. You have to consult Amazon/internet to replace the hardware.

            • True…I once had a woman taking my computer and all the CD’s with her.. Worst night ever!

            • Puget Buckeye

              This isn’t your first rodeo, is it?

            • Vaquera

              I won’t deny that I own a couple pairs of spurs IRL.
              add: and in emotional life

            • Missionary Kid

              Batteries can be replaced. Before leaving, change all the presets and programming.

            • Just flip one battery

            • Vaquera

              Ha! Devious. I like you.

            • Or this one… Change the Language on his phone to Greek!

            • Missionary Kid

              He’ll replace them, and they have the direction they’re to be put in in the compartment. It’s harder to reset parameters if you don’t have the exact controller.

            • Missionary Kid

              Oh, yeah, cancel the cable/internet/satellite.

        • Taffy Sinclair

          Naw, I’ll take his oxycontin,,, then what!!! bitch!

          • April

            Don’t do that! Oxycontin is a controlled substance. If the cops somehow catch you with it in your possession without a prescription in your name, you’re going to jail.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Take both.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          And all the car and house keys she can find. especially the spares.
          And his phone, tablet chargers.
          Don’t take the phone or tablet themselves though.

          • Missionary Kid

            Actually, it works better to take the hidden, spare key, and file down some of the points on it. The key won’t work.

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Good idea. But if she wants a super quick revenge just snatching them is quicker. 🙂

            • Missionary Kid

              True. If one doesn’t have a file, they can scrape it on a curb. Keys are usually brass or aluminum, so the rough concrete surface will wear away one point fairly rapidly.

              If she’s leaving the house, a small squirt of super glue in the key hole will immobilize the lock.

            • Liberated

              You know way too much about this subject.

            • Missionary Kid

              A long time ago, I repaired locks. I’ve never done the super glue trick, but I know of someone who did it.

            • Liberated

              Oh, sure.

            • Missionary Kid

              😛 or 🙂

            • An informal syndicate of gamblers was once seriously annoyed with a UK chain of betting shops because they had refused to pay out on their bet.

              They comprehensively superglued the (very expensive) locks on dozens of premises. The managers could not open until they had called a locksmith to drill them the locks out and change them.

              Nasty!

    • Don’t forget the Scientology Cat… j/k… play it safe for god sake!

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Scientology Cat is at cause over MEST, litter boxes, and divorce. LRH wrote policies on all 3!
        And Scilon Cat goes where I go !!

    • Missionary Kid

      I’m wondering if some of the blame is going to be pushed on her rumored -to-be-$cientologist photographer. He didn’t have to take the picture.

    • GrangerFX

      Trying to paint herself as the victim? That’s not going to go over well.

    • Chee Chalker

      “I’m sorry…..I crossed the line……but I was bullied” ?
      Either she’s sorry or she’s not

      I’m losing more respect for her by the minute

  • MostEthicalPimp

    So my mom still gets e-mail from Scientology!!! Here is the subject line: [Name], Your Passport to a Summer of Excitement and Inspiration is available now!

    • Liberated

      Sounds like Delphi summer camp.
      Do they think your mom is 12 ?

    • Missionary Kid

      $cientology can help her with that…NOT.

    • Newiga

      Eeeew, ick! Scientology summer excitement sounds like a level in Dante’s Inferno.

    • Ann B Watson

      Yuck X One Billion! 💞

  • Aharon Friedman

    I used to be good friends with Dennis when I was on the Board of CCHR. At one point, he disappeared, and it turned out he went to Hawaii, and was selling solar panels. After he had a stroke, he and his son (then 18) were living out of his car, until a friend (I believe encouraged by Mike Rinder) gave him an apartment.

    After a while, he came to Clearwater as he was entitled in there to receive a stay in a convalescence house. I would drive twice a week from Sarasota to visit him, and be with him. He would dump on me all the bitterness he had against the cherch and Miscavige.

    One day I noticed a strange behavior. Realizing he was having a stroke I reeled him into the AC and asked the nurse to bring me a bucket of ice and call an ambulance. I doused him with ice to create hypothermia, as that would stop the development of the stroke. By the time the ambulance arrived he was back to normal. The neurologist informed him that I saved his life.

    Three days later Kathy True of the infamous OSA went to visit him. She convinced him to write a report on me. He wrote one, in which he blamed me for saying the things he said to me. As a result of his report and the report of another “hero” I was declared.

    This was Dennis Clarke, a tortured soul, a person with no conscience.

    • Glen

      This is an amazing story. Trying your best to do the right thing might be why you got into scientology in the first place, I don’t know. But you knew how to be a friend and you knew how to remain calm and purposeful in an emergency medical situation. Kudos to you. I’m sorry that you were on the receiving end of betrayals and falsehoods but I hope that in the long run it has worked out to your ultimate benefit. Good luck.

  • willloomis

    Why do Sea Org members get $46 a week after tax when its a 501c3 tax free organization?

  • ComeToPresentTime

    Bummed to hear about health issues for the Wise Beard Man. His videos were my gateway into finding out the truth about Scientology way back when, even before the Anonymous campaign and the Cruise video. Hope he can get enough free time to finish Knowledge Report and release it to the world.