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To counter Leah Remini’s return to A&E, Scientology recruits her father in smear attack

[George Remini, 69, and his wife Dana Connaughton, 36]

We’ve been documenting how the Church of Scientology’s personal attacks on actress Leah Remini have been rolled out since word was announced that A&E had approved a second season of Leah’s series, Scientology and the Aftermath.

For weeks, we’ve watched as Scientologists who knew Leah or were friends of her family dutifully sat for slickly filmed interviews, attacking Leah for being bossy or rude. Two things especially struck us about them: The complaints were so trivial they were comical, and as Scientologists, the subjects of the videos weren’t really in a position to refuse becoming part of the church’s smear campaign.

Then, yesterday, in the hours before A&E aired a two-hour special episode of Scientology and the Aftermath, we noticed that a new and very different kind of video had been added to Scientology’s attack website. It was highlighted in a way that made it obvious that Scientology’s operatives were very excited that they had landed such a big fish, and just in time.

The video features George Remini, 69, Leah’s estranged father, and his 36-year-old wife, Dana Connaughton (who suspiciously has a difficult time pronouncing the name “Remini” in the video), and it looks very different from the other vids posted on the website. The couple is sitting at their dining table, and George, who was never a Scientologist, rants about how his famous daughter had described him in her book, which came out a couple of years ago.

If you’re familiar with Leah’s book, Troublemaker: Surviving Hollywood and Scientology, you know she opens it up by “dead agenting” herself. She knows Scientology will likely come after her with “noisy investigations,” and so she admits right up front to her own transgressions and misdeeds.

She admits to having fought with nearly everyone she has known, being self-centered, and skipping funerals. (“I don’t deal well with death,” she writes.)

“The same goes for every single person in my family,” she adds. “My dad sold cocaine (and committed various other crimes), and then served time at Rikers Island.”

Leah doesn’t name her father at that point, but this is the line that has apparently set him off, a couple of years after she published it. And so he did a video for use by the Church of Scientology.

George’s former wife and Leah’s former stepmother, Donna Fiore, confirmed for us that it was, indeed, George Remini in the video. And she also confirmed what Leah wrote about him.

“That’s it. It’s true,” she says. She was married to George when he was arrested on a felony weapons charge and spent four months in jail. “It was the 90s, and everyone was doing something,” she adds.

Fiore told us that she was shocked to see George’s appearance in the new video. She hadn’t seen him in 14 years. “I spoke to him on the phone for the first time in four years last week. He was fuming over Leah’s book,” she says. “He looks like death.”

Fiore notes that the page containing the video also features an angry email she wrote to Leah, but it was something she wrote just ten days after the death of her daughter Stephanie, Leah’s half-sister. It was an emotional time, she points out. “We’re an Italian family, you know how it is,” she says. And she disagrees with George, who complains in the video that Leah didn’t offer to help with Stephanie’s medical bills — “Those bills were already taken care of by a prior source and had nothing to do with Leah. And she did pay for the memorial,” Donna says. Donna adds that she has no idea how Scientology has a copy of her email to Leah.

After we pointed out the video to Donna, she called the Church of Scientology to ask about her email being included on their website. “I said, ‘Are you looking to interview me, too?’ Oh, they were very excited,” she tells us. “They offered to send down a film crew from Washington DC or fly me there that night.” She tells us, however, that she was just winding them up and has no interest in being filmed.

The video lasts for 18 minutes, and George and his wife make the same accusations about Leah that she made of herself in her own book. Which, somehow, George only recently found out about.

Scientology leader David Miscavige is no doubt beside himself that his minions convinced Leah’s father to trash her on video. But the accusations against Leah amount to little more than what we’ve heard in the other videos. Leah was rude. Leah was full of herself. Leah didn’t go to a family funeral.

But Miscavige just can’t seem to comprehend that these attacks only confirm what Leah presented so effectively last night on A&E. Scientology ruthlessly goes after its enemies with the same tactics it’s used since the 1960s.

Someone will inevitably make the point that portraying Leah’s family this way, as a group estranged over perceived slights and angry accusations, somehow diminishes criticisms of Scientology’s “disconnection” policy.

It’s bunk. Families are what they are. They’re loving support systems and they can also be deep wells of sorrow and bitterness. Some of us are tight with our kin. Some of us would rather be solitary. But that’s the point — those are decisions we make ourselves.

Disconnection is about an organization requiring that a parent never see their child again, or siblings separate forever, and for reasons of political leverage and extortion.

Opening a window onto the Remini family’s private washing doesn’t change that in the slightest.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,766 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,523 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,869 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,363 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,403 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,115 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 641 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,730 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,870 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,190 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,165 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 521 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,823 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 930 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,332 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,205 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 786 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,291 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,535 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,644 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on May 30, 2017 at 07:00

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The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
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  • Do not watch Aaron’s video at work! It’s NSFW in the sense that I hate it when people are all “why are you crying?”

  • The video showcasing Leah Remini’s father underscores one of the greatest failings of Hubbard’s “tech:” the complete lack of any provision for long-term strategic thinking.

    In Hubbard-land, you always go for the short term gain and you never think about any long-term consequences. Hubbard decreed that every single stat for the business would go up every single week against the results from the week before or you got hauled off to “ethics” where you got harangued and sec-checked. Over time, the pressure to achieve impossible “upstat” results perverts the system and ultimately causes the business to collapse. The pressure to get a stat this week makes people extract money from customers harshly, and turns a customer into a former customer, and all too often, into an enemy.

    By comparison, the businesses we invest in at Global Capitalism HQ report financial results (“stats”) every three months, and even that period of time many people (particularly in Europe, where they report results twice a year) see as driving too much short-term thinking. And in real businesses, seasonality of various sorts mean that results often fall from one quarter to the next, without saying anything negative about the health of the business.

    So, too, does the Hubbard playbook screw up in the area of PR. The pressure to achieve “victory” over one’s “enemies” plus the mentality of “go for the short term win” ends up causing the cult to shoot itself in the foot consistently. Bringing Leah’s father into the mix is yet another example. You can imagine Miscavige cackling with glee as his minions report that they’ve been able to convince Leah’s father to make a video, after he’s read the stories here that mock the cult’s previous efforts to “dead agent” her. And then when this blows up, like all the other schemes to dead agent Ms. Remini, one can imagine the tempertantrum. The only thing missing from the aftermath is any ability on Miscavige’s part to understand why this sort of move nowadays backfires 100% of the time. Hint, Dave: it’s because you can’t think two moves ahead and figure out how either your enemies or the rest of the world will respond.

    • ze moo

      The psychopath lives in the ‘now’. They play checkers while the rest of the world plays chess.

    • I think this flaw arose because Hubbard did not think ahead. The development and complexity of Scientology can be completely understood as:

      a) A series of ad hoc responses to internal and external challenges
      b) The gradual decline of his mental health
      c) The imperative to make money

      The vendetta against psychiatry and psychology, for example, arose because of what those professions said about the book “Dianetics” and how they declined to publish his ‘results’ in learned journals.

      Scientology’s first repressive phase occurred after Hubbard went to sea – because he was afraid that popular ‘executives’ might be able to challenge his position of absolute power, and he would lose control (as he lost control over the Dianetics Institutes).

      When there wasn’t a challenge that Hubbard felt personally, there wasn’t an issue. He didn’t worry about what would happen to Scientology after he was dead because that would not affect him. Besides, if he had introduced a method of transferring power in an orderly fashion, it might have used against him. Hubbard wanted the idea of deposing him to be unspeakable and unimaginable.

      As a consequence his death resulted in a power struggle and purges (in which Miscavige consolidated his power) which did great damage to Scientology.

      The obsession with ‘statistics’ is part of a system to drive people to maximise income at all times. If Scientologists are burned out and leave (or are thrown out) they could easily be replaced, back then. It’s also build into the system of ‘states’. If your stats are up, you move to a state of ‘power’ or some such – but it’s impossible to maintain, because nobody can sustain a good week for ever, nor go on increasing their profits for ever.

      Miscavige inherited this mad, made up system which was designed to only to keep people under constant pressure to make money for the leader after he had already fallen for the con himself.

      Miscavige seems to genuinely believe that Scientology will work if you apply it to the world, if only because he has known nothing else in his life (he has certainly had no meaningful education).

      If you were hired by him to give strategic business advice you could explain your observations about short-term thinking to your hearts content, and all Miscavige would hear is an Orwellian “Thoughtcrime!”.

      Hubbard said “Attack the attacker” so that’s what he does, because Hubbard is still his guru. If this does not seem to work, it is the fault of his minions who are not carrying out ‘command intention’. Scientology remains infallible, no matter how often it fails.

      Ironically, if Miscavige was a crook who knew that Scientology was nonsense, he would use other, more subtle and effective means to silence critics. The fact that he always applies orthodox Scientology and always seems to expect it to work, speaks volumes.

      • MarcabExpat

        Superb summary, and all so true.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Excellent analysis! My sense is that lil davey believes that $cn works, but just like so many others have privately thought in the past, it just doesn’t work on him.

        Beneath all of the crimes and huge overts he’s committed which have prevented him from getting audited for years, there’s a deeply suppressed certainty of his own essential unworthiness and irreparable brokeness that no amount of auditing could ever fix. If he wasn’t in such a position of power and control over others, I could even feel sorry for him.

        • It’s all speculation, but I don’t think he’s the kind of person to feel guilty about anything – especially after years of being subject to corrupting influence of absolute power over those around him.

          It’s my sense that he now thinks he is above it all, and superior to all others.

      • SarahDB

        Makes me wonder, if DM really believes the way to handle “entheta” is to follow LRH’s playbook, why did he give up his own progress “up the bridge” and stop getting auditing? LRH was auditing himself all the time according to people who worked around him. Interesting that he follows LRH in terms of dealing with the world, but not in terms of making himself, “more able”.

        • Sherbet

          The old “do as I say, not as I do” routine?

        • When Miscavige seized power from Hubbard, he became, in his own mind, a ‘Big Being’. He transcended the normal ‘Bridge’, assuming an OT level that no-one else will ever be deemed to have come close to.

          Besides, I believe that he fears that others will do to him what he did to Hubbard, one day This is one of the reasons why he has decimated Scientology ‘management’ and reserved all power to himself.

          Consequently he:

          a) Can’t trust anyone else to audit him
          b) Can’t take his eye off the ball long enough to be audited
          c) Micromanages everything
          d) Reserves his special attention for anything that might make him look bad, personally

          I don’t hear of TC doing very much auditing lately, neither. He went through the motions for a while, then became ‘Big Being No3.”

          In contrast, Hubbard had to at least go through the motions of auditing himself, as it was the ‘research’ that resulted in new doctrine and policies.

          These allowed him to address issues in Scientology – for example, if he thought some members were getting out of hand ‘new research’ would result in stricter ‘ethics’ policies, which would function to rein them in.

          When Miscavige took power he could not do this – the words of ‘Source’ were frozen when the old man died. He had to resort to cruder mean to hold power.

          • SarahDB

            Makes sense what you said, big beings in their own minds, rather pathetic.

    • April

      I’m going to go ahead and guess that Dave is a terrible chess player.

  • RK

    The Church may think that this “scoop” of Leah’s non-Scientology father is awesome, but normal people will just see it as it really is – the kind of drama that every normal person deals with over the course of their life. But we all know that the general public is not the audience that they are trying to reach, but rather it is their own members that they are trying to keep in the fold.

    I watch Leah’s show last night. More than ever, it served to cement my growing understanding that the Church of Scientology is not a group that anyone should associate with and the damage that it has had on my life. The harassment and attacks should now be expected and local law enforcement should take steps to protect its residents from the invasion of privacy. Leah has normalized the presentation of information about the Church’s practices and, by presenting the information in a very balanced way, the general public will be able to read articles about the Church and its tactics with certainty that this data comes from a valid source and with it have growing understanding that the Church does not offer any community benefit. Gone are the days of Scientology news being focused on the antics of its celebrity members – the marriages of Tom Cruise. If the upcoming episodes address what is hinted in the teasers during last night’s show, then I have a story to tell.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Even if it doesn’t, you should consider telling it anyhow…the time is ripe for exposing the cult, right down to its last, most stubborn BT!

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    I’ve just watched this new episode The Merchants of Fear on Rutube and it’s great, it’s very informative, it’s emotional. Mike and Leah are a great team and they had six wonderful guests!
    “Thank God for the Internet!”

  • MarcabExpat

    “iTunes has a new episode for you to download…” AAAAAAnd down the rabbit hole I go!

  • Mockingbird

    Scientology in response to last night’s episode regarding dead agenting and fair game must, must insist we never do such immoral and low things. Now, here is a dead agent pack and video on Leah Remini and we are redoubling our efforts to fair game everyone involved in this terrible show that lies and says we use dead agenting and fair game !

  • Mockingbird

    Scientology reminds me of the kid in school that spreads every nasty rumor imaginable about everyone else and you figure out never to listen to regarding character of other people. The alarmist gossip that eventually everyone ignores.

  • These new posh Narconons sound perfect for the likes of the loathsome David Duggan:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/29e1dde88f0ef28191948298cb866255cf79caec8bf8871e1edf69fd822dc235.jpg

    • John Prince

      ..would You pass the Grey Poupon?

      • I prefer Moutarde de Meaux. At least it’s not owned by Kraft 😉

        • Andrew Robertson

          Don’t be mean to Kraft. They make Vegemite, the ambrosia of the Gods.

          Andrew

          • I prefer Marmite.

            • Sherbet

              Boys, boys. Don’t argue. You say potayto, and I say potahto. There’s a variety of mushy, yeasty bread spread to suit both of you connoisseurs of the foul stuff.

            • (Actually, I’ve been buying Sainsbury’s yeast extract lately; less salt, and a lot cheaper!)

            • Sherbet

              I knew you’d find an economical way to spoil a perfectly good piece of toast. Bravo!

            • Juicer77

              LOL

            • Actually we both say ‘potayto’, – it’s just that the guys who wrote the song were stuck for a rhyme that involved variant pronunciation, and made that up.

            • Sherbet

              I know. Tomayto/tomahto is a thing, but the potato…not so much.

      • mark

        A conversation some years back in a restaurant.
        Customer: Do you have any Poupon Mustard?
        young male server: No
        Customer: What kind do you have?
        Server: Squeeze On.

    • GrangerFX

      Drugs are just a stepping stone towards licking gold bullion.

    • They love the smell of vulnerability in the morning. It smells like .. revenue.

  • flyonthewall

    Critics may have beef with each other sometimes but I think we can all agree that Mother Love Bone rocks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9n9gW1wCks

  • nottrue
  • Good gawd, the cult never ever seems to get it. They’ve proven everything everybody ever said about the once they left.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Here is my question if Hubbard were alive today; Do you think he’d change Scientology PR policy or would he keep demanding that everyone pound those square pegs into round holes?

    • I think Mary Sue was the only one who could talk him into the humane changes that were ever made so perhaps if he was lucky enough to have her with him still but alas there is karma or he ‘pulled it in’.

      • gtsix

        Funny, when I think “humane” I don’t think of the Head Guardian.

        • Yah I know. She did help keep/give parents rights. Family time and weekly days off ended after she was banished.

    • Liberated

      He would never change anything, that would be admitting he was wrong and that’s something he would never ever do.

      • Juicer77

        ^^^

      • sizzle8

        He might change it but he would lie and say that someone issued the previous policy under his name and without his knowledge.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        No , he changed things through the years. Of course, it was never him who was wrong it was everyone else!

  • nottrue
    • Sherbet

      The Herald considers itself a prime muckraker.

  • Glibby

    I wonder what’s with all the stuff blocking the view of George Remini in the video. There’s like a candle, a statue, a stuffed animal, a vase. I wonder if they were trying to block his view of the camera, or the camera’s view of his body or what.

  • davegrille

    The move involving Leah’s father will not benefit the COS

  • TexasBroad

    Excuse me Dave…what does YOUR dad have to say about YOU?

    • Mick Roberts

      ^^^THAT^^^ is a 3 billion dollar question!

    • flyonthewall

      where would you like me to send your chicken dinner?

      • TexasBroad

        🙂
        Personal delivery please. Say June 23rd, Denver?

        • flyonthewall

          no I can’t go for that

          • TexasBroad

            Can’t blame a Broad for trying. 😉

            • flyonthewall

              that was my clever Hall and Oates ref. It’s kind of my thing

            • Philbyification

              Nooo! Not another Earworm Fly! Replacing with “One Night in Bangkok” O o O no can do….arg…

            • Sherbet

              //Administering “It’s a Small World” anti-earworm tech to Philby, stat//

            • Kestrel

              I love you, Sherbet, but this is not a moment when you are on my “favorite people” list. Of all the friggin’ songs to choose from!

            • Sherbet

              Our local ice cream truck is playing “Small World” this summer. I’ll be certifiably insane by Labor Day.

            • Kestrel

              Is there anything I can do to comfort you? Something legal?

            • Philbyification

              Agony, I thought we were friends!? “You spin me right round Baby right round like a record Baby”….lalala 😀 Take that….lol

            • Kestrel

              That’s certainly better than Sherbet’s choice.

            • TexasBroad

              NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
              Dammit!

            • Philbyification

              OK Broad. How bout, “Get regular with Relax, Start every day the Relax way” lol

    • Sherbet

      Bing-effin’-o.

    • April

      “Ruthless,” and not in a nice “highly competitive personality” way. More like the “destructive and without morals” definition of the word.

    • MarcabExpat

      COMMENT OF THE DAY.

  • Interested2

    Just watched it on rutube. I am so damn moved by Mike. A good man made to do evil because he had been taught those principles from childhood.

    Is there someone out there who can get main stream tv here in the uk to broadcast all of the series. At peak times. It is not enough that the crime and investigation programme shows it. This is a programme that virtually no one goes to unless interested by something.

    BBC if you have the balls….. This is a great follow up to panorama.

  • outraged

    Occurs to me that this applies to Scientology as well as Mr. Trump:

    “…unstated premise that a thing will not exist if only you refuse to identify it, that A will not be A so long as you do not pronounce the verdict, ‘It is‘. Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality”

    THIS⬆ is Scientology’s disconnection policy. An attempt to deny the truth of family.

    • April

      That’s an example of magical thinking: “… it denotes the belief that one’s thoughts by themselves can bring about effects in the world or that thinking something corresponds with doing it.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking
      Commonly seen in folks with schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, and schizotypal personality disorder.

      Another example of magical thinking is the CO$’s “postulates.”

      • This is a delusion common to many fringe ideas https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/it-works-by-rhj-wishful-thinking-in-fringe-ideas-and-its-influence-on-scientology/

        Of course, not everyone who falls into that way of thinking is diagnosable – typically, they are ordinary people, conforming to the ideas and behaviour of the group they have joined. Social influence can lead sane people into believing things, and behaving in ways that would lead to a diagnosis of serious mental illness if they did so as individuals.

        Sometimes, however, the guru is teetering of the edge of mental illness (but still functional).

        • April

          Of course, not everyone who falls into that way of thinking is diagnosable – typically, they are ordinary people, conforming to the ideas and behaviour of the group they have joined.”

          That’s why I mentioned the CO$’s “postulates” separately from the list of diagnoses. I did not intend to conflate the two.

          • I wasn’t suggesting that you did. I just find it fascinating how sane, clever and capable people can be led to think and behave in such strange ways.

            There is individual mental illness and there are toxic social situations. Both produce the same kind of dysfunctional behaviour, but for totally different reasons.

            • April

              Ah okay, that makes sense.

      • outraged

        The quote is from Atlas Shrugged….

  • Jgg2012

    “George and his wife make the same accusations about Leah that she made of herself in her own book.” Don’t those involve things that were true when she was still IN Scientology?

  • Glen

    Mike Rinder posted on his blog in response to the perception that Leah was perhaps mean spirited or goading him:

    “Leah doesnt come across in any way as hurtful or mean-spirited in person. Believe me. She is one of my closest and dearest friends and is like a sister to me. It’s not offensive to me, in fact, in many ways that Brooklyn attitude is very similar to the Autralian sense of humor and friendship. Constant “button-pushing” happens with those you are closest to.

    Tommy Davis has never left the fold. He left the SO to live a life of privilege, but he never stopped brown-nosing Miscavige.”

    • Supper Powers

      Anyone who thinks Leah is mean spirited towards Mike isn’t paying attention. They clearly have a strong affection for one another and a bond that only fighting for justice together can forge.

      • April

        They have great chemistry together. I’d totally watch them on a buddy cop tv show.

        • mark

          … and this fall, from the producers that you Shirley and Watson, a new twist on the cop show, Brooke and Ozzy. A no non-sense lady with a heart of gold from NYC and a well-mannered, shrewd investigator from down under, take on the world of destructive cults…

          • April

            Quit teasing me. That would be freaking awesome!

      • Glen

        I absolutely agree. I think they are not only wonderful friends but are clearly helping each other to heal while they are fighting abuses.

      • Liberated

        I love their banter, I sort of think “Hepburn-Tracy” when they go at it.

        How can anyone not be amused ?

    • April

      In Australia calling your friend a “cunt” is considered a term of endearment, so I totally believe Mike has no problem with Leah’s so called attitude.

      • Glen

        I totally get it. I am tempted to respond to you in an endearing way but I’m sure I would just embarrass myself.

        • April

          Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.

          • Glen

            I like you very well, you #**^!

    • littlefish

      100%. I have found that NY natives are very similar to Aussies & Brits when they are blunt, and like to “take the piss” out of the people they care about. If they’re exceedingly polite it means they probably don’t like you that much. ALSO, I think that they both probably respect one another’s boundaries and know what can be said and what maybe wouldn’t be met with appreciation. When you work so closely with someone on something so emotionally draining, you’d have to trust the people you’re with implicitly.

  • ‘Merchants of Fear’ seems to have had a devastating effect on the clams already — at least in San Diego, it has: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/448260ba9351f54f8952105b57c472d7b307c71915f454e0d33d4db36ebd67e7.jpg

    • April

      I guess the print would be too small to say “you’ve been duped.”

  • iampissed

    My Lord can’t SOMEONE frame a shot.

  • GrangerFX

    One thing is becoming very clear if you compare the cult’s response to Leah’s series compared to documentaries filmed two, five, ten or twenty years or more ago: They no longer have enough members to pull off the kinds of fair game operations that they used to. Ten years ago, there would have been a crowd of protesters out front of A&E headquarters. Five years ago, there would have been a handful of loyal clams confronting them at every opportunity. Two years ago, they would have sent their own film crew to record Leah and Mike so they could make their own anti-documentary. Today all you see is PIs that are not even COS members following them around conspicuously and taking pictures of them. Scientology is the hollow religion. All they can do now is buy big empty buildings, hire contractors to refurbish them, hire wogs to staff them and do their dirty work with PIs they find in the yellow pages. All they have left is the money. Time for the IRS to step in before it all gets funneled into the Nation of Islam or sent to a bank account in the Cayman Islands.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Excellent observations! For those of us who’ve been watching this killer cult closely for awhile, the “weak tea” turnout for counter-protests, picketing, attending the annual Psych Bust, etc. all evidence the same thing: Either cult members can no longer be leaned on to show up for these public displays of thetanic solidarity OR the numbers just aren’t there to make a decent showing, so the Puppet Master I/C no longer coerces their attendance. Either way, the cult and Douchious McFuckface are definitely slippin’.

      For those who are familiar with Malcolm Gladwell’s excellent book, The Tipping Point (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tipping_Point ), you may very well have already suspected that phenomena is at work here, based on the quickening pace of the cult’s decline in membership and public presence.

      Regardless of how much money you have squirreled away, or the number of very nicely restored historic buildings that you own, if your cult has no new members coming into it, then it’s on its way out. Before it implodes completely, though, I expect lil davey and his small coterie of bitter-ender celebs and whales to create one or two “Fortress $cientology” enclaves, where the rich and pampered can continue to exorcise the imaginary space alien spirits that they’ve been conned into believing in, out of sight of the real world and away from all those horribly enturbulating SPs.

      • GrangerFX

        They are renovating the Trementina and Petrolia bunkers so you could be exactly right.

  • Ronn S.

    A simplicity finally occurred to me why Scientology is so frantic, feverish about smearing or hushing (or destroying utterly) their critics. THEY have something [a lot] to cover up

    Great start to this year on the teaser premier. All the guests did awesome on camera. Loved the show and looking forward to more hard hitting episodes. Great job! A+

  • Glen

    http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/30/scientology-and-aftermath-leah-remini-previews-season-2/

    This is a link to a strong article in Entertainment Weekly about Leah and the upcoming season. Here are the first couple of paragraphs:

    “Few shows have packed more tension into eight episodes than the first season of A&E’s Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, which last year saw the King of Queens star (and ex-Scientology member and advocate) transition from the world TV comedy to publicly examining the controversial church. The 46-year-old partnered with one of Scientology’s former senior executives, Mike Rinder, for a deep dive into the religion, using riveting expository interviews with past parishioners and high-ranking church officials to highlight allegations of coerced abortions, brainwashing, sex abuse cover-ups, and the destruction of its followers’ families.

    Season 1 ended on a bit of a cliffhanger, however, as Remini and Rinder met with lawyers to explore serious options to take legal action against the multi-billion-dollar organization; as season 2’s summer premiere date looms, Remini and Rinder bridged the gap between episodes on Monday night when they co-hosted the two-hour Merchants of Fear interview special, during which they spoke with several journalists who’ve investigated the church in the past and offered an extended sneak peek at what season 2 has to offer.

    Read on for key takeaways from Merchants of Fear that are sure to prime viewers for season 2.”

  • Bob Crouch

    Leah’s felonious biological father is unhappy about the truth being told about him? Therefore (?), I guess we will all have to re-appraise disconnection, fraud, cultic undue influence as well as Leah’s bio in general.

    Following the same logic, perhaps we have been taking too dim a view of the holocaust as well. It turns out that Hitler loved his dog! Shouldn’t that buy him some, ahem, brownie points and a more lenient appraisal in the history books?

    This kind of “logic” makes it painfully clear why CoS prefers its minions, the ones it directs its propaganda to, uneducated–just like Ron, Dave and Tom!

  • J. Swift

    Scientology is using a guy who did jail time on a weapons charge to Fair Game someone?

    And what about this?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e52f2624e241185b52b4036b7c7f44f289523b7926bb4eb935275c901ebf0b28.jpg

    • J. Swift

      George Remini’s cousin was Fat Georgie, a made man in John Gotti’s crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Remini — Great work OSA. Maybe next you can get El Chapo to make a hate video for Scientology.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/648fbdb6018fd25a7f43c712972b635afa8de3e527781b0bfffcac291a93a221.png

      • Observer

        Captain Miscavige looooooves criminals.

      • FredEX2

        OMG!

        • J. Swift

          Fat Georgie was a made man in the Gambino crime family. Maybe David Miscavige is actually looking for some new mob connections now that all of those NCG’s in OSA Intel are getting up there in years?

          • FredEX2

            Jeffrey, I think he’s had those ‘connections’ for a while now…and uses them. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were true.

            • J. Swift

              FredEX2, I beg to differ. Family is everything to La Cosa Nostra. Family and honor are sacrosanct to the Mafia whereas family and honor mean nothing to Scientologists. Except for Anthony Pellicano who was a wannabe and was never a wise guy (although he pretended to be), no self-respecting mobster would ever have anything to do with Scientology. No Catholic Mafia member would ever use child labor or force women to have abortions.

              As an organized criminal syndicate, doesn’t even have the basics morals of the Mafia.

            • FredEX2

              Yes, I agree.

      • MarcabExpat

        Dayum!

      • I’ll never get over the creativity of gangsters when they come up with pet names for each other. He was fat, and he was called George so – Fat Georgie.

        In the UK London gangsters were just as brilliant. The Kray twins got into trouble for killing an associate called Jack McVitie, who always wore a hat and was known as (wait for it) Jack the Hat.

        They really aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer, are they?

        • J. Swift

          Fat Georgie was fat. Dana Connaughton also looks like maybe she picked up a few pounds since she was pinched in 2013.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f47c9a0cdb10a5c2a657ac07584279ed05f7e2ab3545fb7a1b31862c4d017f8.png

          • I wonder what happens when there are several fat gangsters in the same group.
            Do the rackets stop while they struggle to come up with a suitable name for him.

            Boss: OK guys… we already have Fat Georgie – now we have a fat guy called Brian – what are we going to do?

            Soldier 1: Whack him?

            Boss: That would be easier, yeah, but we’re short on staff at the moment – anyone else?

            Solider 2: Does Brian wear trousers?

            Boss: Er… yeah…

            Soldier 2: Let’s call Brian the Trousers

            Boss: OK Brian the Trousers it is (aside to soldier 1: I want that guy whacked – he’s too smart for his own good)

    • gtsix

      Jail, not prison.

      • J. Swift

        Fixed. Getting the papers…

    • Observer

      Is that his wife?

      • J. Swift

        Just someone who was arrested on drugs charges… more later.

        • Sherbet

          Speaking of drug charges, I still haven’t figured out why Denise Miscavige wasn’t exiled for the embarrassment she’s caused Dave.

          • J. Swift
            • iampissed

              That would be the one.

            • Sherbet

              That’s the embarrassment, right there.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Sweet Xenu in chains, those BTs have really done a number on lil davey’s twin sis!

            • Sherbet

              She’s the poster child for cognitive dissonance. An arrest for trading drugs for rental payments? But she’s ethical! She’s Dave’s sister! And the church eliminates drug problems with narconon and TWTH. So, obviously, this flap didn’t really happen.

            • Liberated

              I hate the fact Kyle Brennan’s father called Denise the Druggie before he called the police when his son lay dying.
              What could that nit-wit possibly do to help ?

            • Sherbet

              I had forgotten that, Liberated. Another despicable act by this criminal enterprise.

            • J. Swift

              Denise Miscavige has “No Case Gain” written all over her.

            • grundoon

              Like sister, like brother.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Yep, it would appear so, just google her name, plus “arrest record” to learn more!

        The family who gets busted selling hard drugs together, stays together 😉

        • MarcabExpat

          Oof. They did NOT think this thing through before saying yes to Dave.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            No kidding! I wonder if Dear Leader’s secret police unit simply failed to delve into this pair of convicted drug felons’ past or if they were fully aware of it, but just decided to go with what they had and hope the blow back wouldn’t be too bad?

            Either way, they’re screwed and then tattoo’ed now 😉

    • Meepthorp

      Good work, the name, location and age all match. Must be her. Can’t wait to hear more. Looks like she’s scamming the old crook.

    • It could be in Scientology’s DNA to be connected to criminals:

      L Ron Hubbard:
      1. Convicted of fraud and sentenced to 4 years in jail in 1979, in France.
      2. Fined $50 and given probation for leaving his daughter in a vehicle.
      3. Unindicted co-conspirator in an international information infiltration and theft project called “Operation Snow White”
      4. In 1948 L. Ron Hubbard is arrested for writing bad checks in San Luis Obispo, California.

      • Puget Buckeye

        And that’s just the stuff he was caught doing. Let’s not forget trying to steal the money meant to buy the boat(s), being a bigamist, and probably a bucket load of other stuff I can’t remember. (Sneaking in comments while I’m at work. Shhhh)

      • J. Swift

        George Remini and his legal problem with a gun makes him eligible to join PI Dwayne Powell in the ultra-exclusive Gun Club for Scientology Goons:

        http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2189795.1429340640!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/scientologist19n-6-web.jpg

        • Philbyification

          A SILENCER people. What more do ya want? A “loaded insinuation”? No need. ffs!

      • Mark Foster

        Number 3 is actually domestic espionage-and it was the largest domestic espionage operation in US history.

    • chukicita

      Here’s some more interesting info. Dana has had several businesses registered in NJ. One was sued for breach of contract in 2009 (George is also named in that suit) by another company, hilariously named Insul-Tech, and by 2011 Denicola Designs was defunct.

      Leah left the church publicly in June 2013. Dana seems to have spent April 23 – June 3, 2013 in jail.

      That same year, a new business called Galexy [sic] Construction, LLC was registered in NJ as a one-person company, with that one person being Dana. According to Manta, buzz, etc., the company is estimated to be making $100K/year. Its address is also a USPS branch.

    • Jimmy3

      Would it kill you to smile? Jeez

      • FredEX2

        It looks like it might. She just hasn’t found her way to happiness yet.

  • Her estranged father? He sounds like a crook and I wonder how much time he was actually present. The fact that he even thinks he has any right, as an estranged parent, to speak on anything related to Leah is disgusting.

    Were my parents to speak out against me, I would simply respond that they have no idea who I am and they never have because they never cared about anything except Scientology. To them, my personal growth and identity were lower in importance than Xenu and his body thetans.

    I encourage Leah to do the same in as public a manner as possible. I know that the tactic is usually not to respond to these attacks. However, in this case Leah is presented an opportunity to offensively discredit the Church. Rather than being flustered and on the defense. In fact, I would encourage her to post a link to the attack page itself on Twitter and hopefully the general public would catch on. The outcry and embarrassment might just be enough to force Miscavige to shut the pages down after worsening Scientology’s already terrible case in the court of public opinion.

    • Juicer77

      You’re right, this pitiful salvo from the Co$ is not worth the effort except to let it stand as the ridiculous example it is.
      IMHO Missmanage will never let up or remove the pages, he CANNOT admit that he was wrong. He may even think he’s winning in whatever twisted alternative universe he lives in.
      PS I’m glad you have real family now who love you for you who are. IOU one giant hug – can’t get to HowdyCon this year to collect, but I will keep hoping. 🙂

    • ExCult.Jan

      He won’t shut down the pages, that would be admitting LRH was wrong.
      But, it would further Leah’s goal of shedding light on the cult’s intent to cause harm.

    • seconded..

      Plus, as others pointed out, Captain David “he is NOT Insane!” Miscavige has just made the views of parents a topic, let’s see how he likes being reminded of Ron Sr…

  • Sherbet

    I wonder what Dave would think if Jennifer Lopez wrote a tweet or posted on FB how supportive she is of Leah Remini, how truthful and brave she is. If I recall from “Troublemaker,” Jennifer was in Dave’s crosshairs as a possible prized parishioner and feather in the church’s cap.

  • Noesis

    One of the best things about being involved in Scientology, then leaving after finally discovering the hoax nature of the organization, is that one becomes a bit more able to spot nonsense / fraud in the larger world because so much of that nonsense / fraud has the same odor as Scientology did (and still does.)

    I’ve commented several times on the blood testing start-up Theranos and how it has undergone extreme controversy after the Wall Street Journal (and others) began looking into the claims of the company versus the counter- assertions of several folks who used to work there or who had invested / partnered with the company.

    Theranos had it all – hundreds of millions in VC / private equity money, a $9 billion valuation, a hip, glib, black-turtleneck wearing, female, Stanford dropout as its Founder/ CEO (a trifecta of Silicon Valley tropes) a Board of Directors that was a virtual who’s who of political and corporate powerbrokers, a “technology” that was going to revolutionize the diagnostic blood testing industry, an absolute avalanche of positive press…and apparently very little (that was real) to actually back up its many “scientific” claims as well as some pretty clear sleight of hand to keep those claims alive even in the face of very heavy contrary evidence.

    I have no financial interest in this start-up but know some of the folks who do. It has been a case study in how deception, hubris, fraud, politics and popular tropes can converge (deliberately or accidentally) to steer otherwise intelligent folks down a yellow brick road (or even a “bridge”) of lies to part them from their money while pretending to have “solutions” to real world problems that previously did not exist.

    Most of the original Theranos BOD members resigned when the scale of the scam began to become clear. New information from depositions recently taken of those BOD members is beginning to come out. Just like in Scientology, the “Board” did not do a good job of governance or fiduciary oversight (to say the least.)

    I thank L. Ron Hubbard for showing me what a clever deception looks like and how it operates…up close and personally.

    Thanks Ron!

    Your “legacy” helped me avoid the Theranos con and several others just like it. LOL.

    For those that care, the WSJ is still unraveling the details of the apparent Theranos fraud. Below is a link to one of the most recent articles: https://www.wsj.com/articles/court-documents-shed-light-on-theranos-boards-response-to-crisis-1496136600

    Here are two earlier article with some background: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/05/theranos-silicon-valley-media and http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-exclusive

    Beware of “happy horseshit” in popular media – it is frequently not just wrong, but often the exact opposite of the truth.

  • Newiga

    Aaron Smith-Levin <3 You had me in tears, man. Not because you cried but because brothers. < / 3

  • Mick Roberts

    Hmm, based on Tony’s breaking story about Danny Masterson a few months ago and some of the Aftermath Season 2 teasers last night, what do y’all think might be going on in that little thought bubble of this guy right about now?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5cb8d96e5cd3c5cebfee96b470dcb2a98e27ceacbbe502f1dfffb295a3a2be0d.jpg

    • Sherbet

      I hope it’s something like, “Oh, crap! I’m in trouble now!”

    • Liberated

      Feet don’t fail me now !

    • Observer
    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Do I look aboriginal enough in this pic? I sure hope so, because I’m going to need to disappear into the Australian Outback for, umm, a few years at least when the new season of Leah’s series starts!”

    • Jimmy3

      I think he’s one of those mouth-breathing club kids who just has a steady loop of shitty techno music playing in his head at all times. So all he’s thinking is, “unsf unsf unsf unsf unsf unsf unsf unsf unsf….”

    • ExCult.Jan

      It’s already perfect blank.

    • GrangerFX

      “There is no such thing as bad publicity.
      There is no such thing as bad publicity …”

    • Glen

      “Dude, just go buy a fucking book and read it and decide for your fucking self what it means. I don’t have time to have this conversation with you.”

    • $cnMonkeyNut$
  • Harpoona Frittata

    Infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists have long been concerned about the possibility that some extraordinarily lethal new virus could jump species and infect us with some sort of virulent super bug for which we have no cure, leading to a world-wide pandemic which could result in the death of hundreds of millions.

    However, the possibility of just such a species-jumping disease having a beneficial effect has never been seriously considered before. That’s all about to change, though, as the scientists at the BDC (Bunker Disease Control) announced in a recently published paper, which provides definitive proof that the Colony Collapse Disorder (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder ), that’s been devastating honey bee colonies world-wide, has jumped species to impact more and more groups of $cientologists with similarly catastrophic effects.

    One by one, formerly thriving $cn missions are disappearing, leaving local members of the faith to prey to Xenu on their own and to engage in the kind of self-regging behavior that inevitably leads to penury or psychosis…or both! While the collapse in the honey bee population is truly a valid cause for alarm, due to their key role in pollinating our food crops, the collapse of $cn colonies (or Cult Colony Collapse) is a welcome development because this pernicious and parasitical cult has been destroying families and harming individuals for almost seven decades now.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Scientists expect Season 2 virulence against the diseased colonies to increase by a factor of 47, with global eradication not only possible, but imminent, according to the BDC.

  • FredEX2

    So Miscavige / Scientology approved of and resorted to posting 2 CRIMINALS speaking in a hate video to try to smear and discredit Leah? Whoops! ~Oh Xenu in a kayak! They might want to ‘investigate’ their own ‘people’ before doing this ridiculous stuff. Someone should write a screenplay of all the stupid things they do. Goodness knows there’s plenty of it to write about. Might make a funny sitcom…like the bumbling ‘Three Stooges’…or a comedy on stage. These guys seriously need to loosen up and laugh at themselves. So embarrassing.

    • Kestrel

      This would have been a good time to, oh, I don’t know, hire a private investigator to make sure neither had any skeletons in the closet.

      • FredEX2

        Yep!

    • Puget Buckeye

      Isn’t there a saying that goes something like “you’re judged by the company you keep”?

    • EmmaDaoust

      “What’s that Mrs Yingaling, ma’am? You wanna pay me how much to talk crap about my good-fer-nuthin daughter? Well, Mr DeMille, I’m ready fer my close up!”

  • Shanester

    First of all, I just watched the Merchants of Fear special with Leah and Mike Rinder, and all I can say is: thank you for bringing truth to light. (And with such great interior design!)

    Off topic, but what is with The Los Angeles Times? Even when they finally do say something about Scientology, it becomes clear from the article’s details presented as facts that the writer and editors are not performing real research and have unquestioningly accepted the cult’s own statistics.

    I was scratching my head as I read the Times’ article about the City of Clearwater’s purchase last month of the downtown parcel coveted by Scientology for its own clearly selfish reasons that provided no public benefit whatsoever. The Times gets the big picture right. Or at least mostly right. But the details are frustratingly wrong, and the whole story comes off as a disagreement about a church, possibly maligned unfairly, being bullied by the big bad government.

    I mean, seriously:

    “So it was in Clearwater, a city of 110,000 that is now Scientology’s international headquarters. County records show that the church owns 66 properties in the city, where an estimated 12,000 Scientologists live.” Scientology’s headquarters are near the city of Hemet in unincorporated Riverside County, California. The notion of 12,000 Scientologists in Clearwater is almost laughable.

    “The church is one of the largest taxpayers in Pinellas County and is widely regarded as a good steward of its properties. A 2014 Florida State University study found that it brought $917 million into Clearwater that year.” Wow, The Times is embarrassing itself with this uncritical reprinting of highly questionable statistics.

    “In early March, the church upped the ante: Scientology leader David Miscavige personally raised the church’s offer to $12.5 million. The aquarium said no, citing an agreement with the city.” This is an amazing way of stating the facts while completely failing to mention any history whatsoever of why this would be the case, and which would provide needed context for how the whole situation began in the first place.

    “Many downtown business owners were said to favor the plan or at least were willing to hear Miscavige out.” Oh, really? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember there being only a couple of business owners who supported David Miscavige’s $8 million facelift plan — and both of them were Scientologists!

    “Again, the aquarium declined, prompting the church to question the aquarium board’s fiduciary responsibility.” Wow, thanks for the utter lack of context, Los Angeles Times, and implying that the Aquarium may indeed have been lacking in responsibility.

    In summary, I thought I would be glad to see the Times, at last, saying something about Scientology, even if it was a story that had taken place 3,000 miles away. Was the Times finally showing some backbone? It kind of seems the answer is: not really. If the Times doesn’t even bother to distinguish between the cult’s “spiritual” headquarters in Florida and the actual headquarters in LA’s own backyard — not to mention the cult’s enormous presence in Hollywood — then maybe the Times should continue to maintain its weird radio silence. I’ve always wondered how much influence Tribune Media has maintained over its hamlet in Los Angeles.

    • Juicer77

      Tony has been saying this for years. The LA Times is so far in the Co$ pocket they can count the grey curly hairs.

      • ExCult.Jan

        eww

  • Jimmy3

    Guess who’s got two thumbs but forgot to use them to set the DVR?
    ^—– this guy

    • flyonthewall

      watch it on russian commie youtube, that’s what I’m fittin to do

    • Juicer77

      I bought season 1 on Amazon. Episode 9 showed up this morning.
      Confession: I was snoring loudly at 2 am UK time. #Sheepish

      • Marshall

        I was so excited that it showed up there since I had already bought it last season. Watched it getting ready for work and at lunchtime 🙂

    • April

      If you’re not using those opposable thumbs, you should seriously consider giving them to my English Mastiff. She seems to think that a good way to open a door is to head-butt it.

  • Tony Ortega

    Early warning: We’ll be talking with John and Jillian at KABC 790 in LA at 5:33 local time (8:33 New York)

    • Jimmy3

      Those two seem to have a thing for you.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        They can’t have him.

      • flyonthewall

        Nerd Orgy 3: The Chemistry of Love Lust

        eta – I changed it to Lust due to pressure from the studio execs. Bastards

        • Jimmy3

          Can’t wait. I loved Nerd Orgy 2: Bare Booties and Square Rooties

          • Supper Powers

            Damn it, Jimmy3! I nearly dropped my phone in the tub!

    • ExCult.Jan
  • Night Nurse

    “Children of Affluent Families” are also potential whales.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Well I’m a mess. In the last couple of hours I have watched Len Zinberg break down on Aftermath and Aaron Smith Levin break down recounting his assault. How courageous it is to put yourself in a situation where you know you are going to be vulnerable yet do it anyway.

    • TexasBroad

      I can’t quite get my words right, but there is something victorious in that vulnerability.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Major victory to escape the robot factory with heart, soul, and mind intact. *pumps fist*

      • Juicer77

        Perfectly said.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        No, that’s perfect.

    • Night Nurse

      It’s called “Being A Hero.”

      • Juicer77

        Welcome to the Bunker 🙂

        • Night Nurse

          Thanks! It’s good to be here!

      • ExCult.Jan

        And being a hero is something night nurses know something about!! Welcome!

        • Night Nurse

          🙂

      • Jimmy3

        Rosario Dawson??? I love your work!!!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Nice to meet you 🙂

      • flyonthewall

        i just read an article about this baby killing nurse that was about to be released from prison in TX but they indicted her for more murders at the last minute. Also hello and welcome

        https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/texas/articles/2017-05-25/nurse-in-prison-for-killing-infant-indicted-in-another-death

        • Rasha

          Charmer, you.

          • flyonthewall

            *blush*

      • TexasBroad

        Welcome Night Nurse!

      • Glen

        Welcome, glad to see you here.

    • Juicer77

      *hands tissues*
      I just finished Aftermath. Going to wait until tomorrow for Aaron. Good night, sweet lady!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Good night, J-J 🙂

    • Yeah, do NOT watch Aaron’s video at work.

    • Yeah, do NOT watch Aaron’s video at work.

  • HTC

    Just watched the video and can’t stop laughing. It’s Leah’s fault her dad got cancer…so rich!

  • beauty for ashes

    It’s surprising when you’ve been away from scientology for a while how much you can forget.
    Mark Ebner can feel hurt and angry from scientology ‘s dead agenting, and not make a joke.
    Janet Reitman can drop her straw mid sip, when she hears about level of surveillance scientology had on her.
    Len Zinberg still atones for behavior decades long since changed.
    Hubbard was REALLY defensive!
    Leah is still a little bit rude to Mike. ( I still love her and think she’s amazing for this)
    Mike Rinder still stops and freezes in horror and shame at the memory and understanding of the things he did, and would have done under the guidance of Hubbard’s orders. You know, Mike said I probably could use some therapy. One technique I have learned, is to actually listen to that awful feeling as if it were a voice telling you something you need to know or learn. In Mike’s case, I just felt like, if he really listened, all it was saying was,
    ” That was something I did that was awful, especially because I wasn’t listening to my own intuition, and I will NEVER EVER do that again.” At least that’s what I thought.
    Now back to working on the epic Dowton Abbey coloring book avec ma mere. Y’all have no idea how time consuming it is! Miss you guys! <3 <3 <3

    • Sherbet

      It’s good to see you, beauty. How is ta mere doing?

  • Glen

    I have to confess that after sampling a couple of those $ci hate videos a while back for some first hand knowledge of what they were about, I’ve never gone back to see any more. They are so vitriolic or silly or sad in a purposely hurtful way. “Vile,” I think is the term that Leah has used. They are designed to further victimize the victims (although I prefer to think of them as mostly survivors and heroes). They are predictably ad hominem attacks right out of the $ci playbook.

    But today I went back to check out George Remini and Dana Connaugton. I feel bad if this has caused Leah even a moment of discomfort or pain. But, beside that, this really is more like comic relief. Is this all you got? George comes off as sort of a pathetic asshole. Leah should surely be thankful that he has been such a limited presence in her life and that her stepfather now is a true father for her. And Ms. Connaugton (is that really her as a dope selling jailbird in the mug shots?) is beyond belief as she chimes in, “She’s not tryin’ to help nobody” and “So look what she does to her own family.”

    If $ci and their tactics were not at root so hateful and twisted, they would be downright hilarious.

    • April

      Leah owes her dad not one fucking thing. He lost the right to cry foul when he abandoned Leah’s mother with 2 little girls and a newborn baby, then had nothing to do with their upbringing, financially or otherwise.

      Leah obviously takes good care of her mother, who absolutely deserves it. Her sisters are well taken care of, or are able to take care of themselves financially.

  • MarcabExpat

    Just finished Merchants of Fear. It’s amazing how this piece walks a line and reaches out to two audiences at once: the public, who don’t understand why Scientologists act as they do or how internal ops work; and still-ins, who think they understand how things work and won’t listen to a word of commentary that can’t be backed up with references. The same content does double duty in bringing home reality to both demographics. Amazing.

    This is the closest thing we will get to a Debbie Cook email that’s about secret ops instead of finance. It won’t reach the same number of members because of course it’s staged by SPs instead of a member “in good standing” who can sneak that message past the censorship curtain. But any UTR who does dare to watch it will have no way to refute the point-by-point presentation of Co$’ vicious goals, in the words of Source himself.

  • J. Swift

    Scientology seems to have erectile dysfunction in the Fair Game department on this latest video. It’s quite pathetic, a real embarrassment.

    • Kestrel

      Impotent and ineffective.

      • Inconceivable!

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Inevitable?

        • Glen

          Inane

      • Puget Buckeye

        Illegal

      • gtsix

        Inelegant

      • Puget Buckeye

        Illadvised

      • ExCult.Jan

        Inept

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Incontestably idiotic!

    • Supper Powers

      Laying off the Macallans may help, but I kind of doubt it.

    • Sherbet

      If the church experiences entheta lasting four hours or more, they need to contact their lawyer.

      • Supper Powers

        You win.

        • Sherbet

          I have news for the church. This entheta is going to last waaaay more than four hours.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
  • Finishing watching last night’s episode. Thank you to all for live blogging!
    Intel Mike Rinder has is all over his face and hair. Kudos and Love to you and Leah.

    This is good.

  • outraged

    Was this posted, and aren’t they a bit late to the party?
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-scientology-clearwater-2017-story.html

    The Church of Scientology wanted a vacant lot. So did the city of Clearwater, Fla. One of them won

    • Supper Powers

      Yeah, newsflash LATimes. Good work.

    • Glen

      It was posted earlier. Although it was the rare appearance of a $ci story in the LA Times, it was careless with facts and context. Tony was less than impressed.

  • Marshall

    Since I watched last night’s show on Amazon there were no teasers for next season included. Can someone give me a brief idea what the tease was about Masterson?

    • outraged

      My officemate was very upset that he did not know about last night. He is NOT on these blogs…wonder how much A&E promoted the show? He LOVED Leah and has been waiting for the next episodes. He was shocked this morning when I told him about last night.

      • mandymarie20

        If they have Direct TV, it’s already On Demand in the Missed It section.

    • Glen

      Marshall, here is a link to a story today in Entertainment Weekly that briefly gives an idea about some things that are coming up in season 2.

      http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/30/scientology-and-aftermath-leah-remini-previews-season-2/

      • Marshall

        Thanks!

    • chukicita

      I am hesitant to jump to the conclusion that it’s Masterson. There are certainly other offenders who fit the description in the clip.

      • burythenuts

        Me too, but…
        I do think it is.

        • chukicita

          Bury Bury Bury! (((Hugs)))

    • UhLasare

      I also have season 1 through amazon, so missed it, but it is at the end of last night’s episode on rutube.

      • UhLasare

        Well, I thought it was all at the end. I guess it’s sprinkled throughout.

  • UhLasare

    It’s unreal how good last night’s episode. I’m blown away by what it accomplished. Just finished it. Will read article now.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    For you, Leah.
    Thank you, mille grazie.
    Lei sei un dono.
    You are a thousand times the daughter this guy never deserved.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/822639d96e982ef18a9d77b1acbb013f9f918cda2d0627f6018360db8b458d4d.jpg

    • chukicita

      ^^^
      So well said!

    • April

      Well done meme. I score it 10/10. 11/10 with rice.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Leah Remini is extraordinarily popular because of her brassiness and honesty. Miscavige thinks that labeling her a nasty woman will alienate her fans? Maybe 40 years ago it would have mattered. Not today. Miscavige is outdated, boring and ridiculous. Leah is definitely changing the national/international conversation about scientology. I hope she also is able to free more than a few of his victims.

    • ExCult.Jan

      ‘Nasty woman’ is a bad thing? Hell, no.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymtW_WsOME

      • April

        I’ve told plenty of people who were treating me poorly to go fuck themselves. Does that make me a nasty woman? It definitely makes me a less than ideal CO$ “parishoner” or Sea Org recruit.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Thanks to COB’s recent policy of not being very selective at all when it comes to Fair Game, OSA is pleased to report that it’s stats for hate videos is straight up and vertical.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b1d6c79ce08c51df26b0847d48f53d3faad1c810c84cd2b45c8e5a296cdf982.png

  • burythenuts

    Just watched the new Leah and Mike show!
    It rocked!

    Not one thin dime….uh….oops.

    • gtsix

      Bury!

      Many many thin dimes. Double oops.

      • burythenuts

        8.67 million 0.10= fuck you tiny boots 😀

    • Sherbet

      Hey, you. Hiya from grim and cloudy New England.

      • burythenuts

        Hi Sherb. I think of you so often. ( you are always scolding Howdy in the most loveable way)

        • Sherbet

          It was a lovely game. How are you? Keeping healthy and busy?

          • burythenuts

            Busy as a Colorado beaver!

            • Sherbet

              Excellent!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Bury!! I’m so glad I popped back before bed. The Bunker just isn’t the same without you here every day. You’re so missed.

      • burythenuts

        I love u 2 Betty Bear! Sorry, at some point I want to return in a meaningful way. But 2 day is not the day! Soon I hope.

        Edit: but I do have to go to Clearwater for work the next few days…..snort!!!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Careful what you wish for, you silly $cilons!

      Wollersheim didn’t get one thin dime, he got 87 million of them 😉

    • MarcabExpat

      Upvoted because O HAI THERE :-)))))))

    • Mick Roberts

      Well, Miscavige was actually proven right. They didn’t give them one thin dime. They gave them 870,000,000 of them. So all you SP’s better be careful with your false claims that Miscavige was wrong before OTVIIIisGrrr8! chimes in to set you all right!

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Legally speaking, we never gave Larry Wollersheim one thin dime; we wrote the check to his attorney.

    • Bury! So lovely to see you down here!

  • TexasBroad

    If any PIs show up at HowdyCon, can we play Pin The Tail On The Tail?

    • chukicita

      Y’all need to love bomb your tails. They hate that.

      • TexasBroad

        I see no need to be anything but nice to anyone. Particularly a paid PI…would be interesting to sit and have a chat. 🙂

        • chukicita

          I’ve gone out and offered a bottle of cold water on a hot day. Hydration is important.

          • TexasBroad

            If we are in the hotel for the evening, I’ll offer Maker’s Mark. 🙂

            • Rasha

              You. Are. A. Saint. ^_^

            • TexasBroad

              Oh, i’m quite the sinner…but I try to be a nice, fun one!

            • April

              What’s that saying, something like “if you’re going to be bad, make sure you’re really good at it.”

              My philosophy is that anything worth doing is worth doing to extreme (with moderation of course).

          • Supper Powers

            Are you able/willing to tell us why they targeted you?

            • chukicita

              I’ve told it before. Hard to type on this stupid tablet. My crimes involved asking difficult questions, then picketing.

            • Supper Powers

              Picketing. What a crime! God, those people are loons. Sorry you went through that. Glad you stuck around.

            • chukicita

              Heh. I wanted to do a social impact assessment of Scn on the community of CW for a college project. I was posting to a.r.s. at the time, but wanted to keep an open mind. I’d heard good and bad things about Scientology, but I thought an academic exploration of the real impact might be useful. An OT who was posting ‘good news’ kindly offered a tour of Flag. I took him up on it. During the course of the tour, I asked questions about the RPF, about how much money it took to advance spiritually, about why there were so few people of color in uniforms downtown, about the disparity between information put out by the church about itself and that from more neutral sources (such as the census), about the history of bad relations between the church and its local creditors, etc. (I was also totally creeped out by a muster that I wasn’t probably supposed to see)

              He didn’t like these questions and at the end of my tour, he was threatening me with a noisy investigation. Shortly after, the Dean of my college received a Kobringram accusing me of posting hate on a.r.s. Because I worked at the University, in addition to being a student, this threatened my job as well. I was a single mother at the time. I did not lose my job, but only after University lawyers got involved, and letters from other a.r.s. posters, including some distinguished scholars, were written on my behalf. This was among the motivators for me to picket. I was at the first “internet picket” in the mid-90s in CW, and experienced PIs sitting in front of my house, digging through my trash, etc.

              Needless to say, the lack of reliable information made it impossible to complete the social impact assessment.

            • Supper Powers

              Holy shit. Im so sorry. I want to hear your story with Chris Shelton or Jeffrey.

            • chukicita

              Haha! My story is but a tiny potato.

              Occasionally I’d go visit the Lisa McPherson Trust folks when it existed downtown CW. One time when I was there, Stacy asked if I would come to a birthday party. They were trying to have a party for a child who had just been disconnected from by one of the parents. I’m like, I don’t know this kid, and I’m sure they don’t know me. She said, it doesn’t matter, come anyway, sing, eat cake, help celebrate their birthday because this kid needs to know people care right now. So I did. It was really humbling.

              THAT is the kind of story that needs to be told. The stories those brave folks who worked daily in the belly of the beast can tell are far more important than mine.

            • Supper Powers

              I have a feeling we would be friends IRL. I like the way you think.

            • chukicita

              Mutual admiration here. 😀

            • Robert Eckert

              I assume that was back in her Lisa McPherson Trust days

      • April

        Buy ’em a cup of coffee, ask them how their bunions are doing?

        • chukicita

          Exactly.

  • nottrue
    • Harpoona Frittata

      I love how nonchalantly he said it and how unsurprised everyone else on the panel was when he said it.

      • Puget Buckeye

        That’s what’s so so so,…..I don’t know what word to use. Creeping around and following people and noisy investigations are SOP and to be expected. Who the hell does that? What CHURCH does that? Sinister.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    “He looks like death.” that he does.

  • Liberated

    Is Tony on the radio yet ?

  • flyonthewall

    Watching Leah show now for real. Don’t feel sorry one bit for Mary Sue. She hardly did anytime in jail at all and had fancy lawyers and a nice big fancy house to go home to when she got out. She was a fucking witch and did black magick with Hubbard. Blood Ritual? Any family tragedy she suffered was her own fault for being the devil’s whore. That’s the price, bitch. Hope you burn in hell

    • Arthur Pewtie

      But how do you really feel?

      • April

        Yeah, Fly seems like he’s holding back on his feelings here.

    • Supper Powers

      I tend to agree. It’s not like she got mixed up with the wrong guy. She was willingly compliant.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Even her dog led a nice life.

      • flyonthewall

        fucking dog lived better than most Sea Org slaves

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I was going to say the same thing. In Bel Air w/ a pool.

      • Liberated

        Her dog was clear.

    • Glen

      Wasn’t the blood ritual woman not Mary Sue, who came along later, but rather Sara?

      • flyonthewall

        I think you’re right. Still, Sara was not down with the scam though and told Hubbard to fuck off. She also left a clear record of the truth about Hubbard. Sara is cool in my book

      • Robert Eckert

        It was while he was with Parsons, and that’s where he met Sara, but I think the Whore of Babalon [sic} was a different woman altogether

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiuqLqipt5A
    “Mary Sue was beautiful” Partied without”drugs or alcohol”
    “had bigger balls than Ron..”

  • ExCult.Jan

    Tony’s on air NOW!

    KABC 790 AM
    http://www.kabc.com/on-air/

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Tony is was on for a little bit…
    http://www.kabc.com/the-drive-home/

    • ExCult.Jan

      Tony: Leah and Mike explained the policies behind retaliation

    • ExCult.Jan

      Jillian: This makes the ‘religion’ really look awful…. sinking their reputation

    • ExCult.Jan

      Dang – phone line cut out
      edit: right after pointing out that Leah’s father made the same allegations as the first page of her book published 2 years ago

    • Glen

      Tony’s phone connection tanked, interview cut short before it really got started.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        poop

        • Glen

          Eloquently stated, yes, disappointing.

    • Ok what button on that page is the right one? last time i was listening 1/2 hour on something from last week.

    • I hear no Tony on that page… I’ll just wait it out until they podcast it.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Tony’s phone cut out early on.

        • iampissed

          I hear Maseratis do that.

      • iampissed
        • Arrgrggg we are all going to diee

      • Eivol Ekdal

        The phone connection crapped out shortly after the start of his segment.

        • so that’s maybe why i heard all these jingle-bells and what have you 🙂

          • Liberated

            Hey, what’s the deal with you abandoning your religion? You could’ve given a girl a heads-up.

            What am I gonna do now…I’ve invested in all this pasta.

            I demand a refund !

            • No Refunds – sorry!

            • As we say in our church – You noddles are floating and we can all go home now!

            • Liberated

              Wait a minute…I’m confused, do we have to disconnect ?

              I am a bitter apostate. Long Live …Linguine !

            • noddles always stay together –covfefe

  • iampissed

    For some reason,I would like to remind everybody to go to mikes page and read the open letter.
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-open-letter-to-my-family-by-mike-rinder.
    Mike you do it for your family, sanity and I hope as a Wog. I can help you clear the planet.
    Yes indeed…..Something Can Be Done About It.

    • GrangerFX

      It does underscore the futility of using logic to reason with the cult. It just goes nowhere and takes a very long time to do so. None of it will be heard or considered except to extract more fodder for future attacks.

      • iampissed

        True inside the bubbles nothing is heard, outside the balance is tipping.
        As it happens time will compress.

      • April

        There’s also a chance that Mike’s one or more disconnected family members may begin to have doubts about the CO$ and read it. If they’re not full-on drinking the koolaid, they’re more likely to be receptive to what he’s saying to them. Also, he has no other way to reach them because they won’t accept his calls/letters due to the CO$ disconnection policy.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    I am still listening to KABC hoping they will get Tony back, not likely. So many adverts! It’s like 5 minutes of talk and a 10 minute ad break and they are all the same ads. Morongo! Morongo!

    • iampissed

      Hey don’t call me that….brings back my high school dazes.

    • chukicita

      Mofongo? Mmmm, yes, please!

  • Philbyification

    So this Greasy Criminal( and piss poor excuse for a “Dad”) and his Moll are supposed to Change the way Decent Folks think of Leah? Not Hardly. Even the Clams know it’s BS! LOL What a Fat Bitter Bastard!

    • April

      That’s why it was such a good idea to take a “warts and all” approach regarding her own behavior when writing her book Troublemaker: Surviving Hollywood and Scientology.

      Nothing the CO$ has thrown at her so far is any worse than what she’s already described about herself in a book so widely read that it made the NY Times best seller list within a month of its release date. https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2015/12/06/

      The CO$ using Leah’s father, who abandoned Leah’s mother with 2 young girls and a newborn baby, who has a felony conviction on his record, who described Leah no worse than she’s already admitted, tells me that the CO$ is desperate and David Miscavige is so afraid of Leah that he’s pissing in his shoes right now.

      • Philbyification

        Best book I’ve listened to in Years! Very Compelling. Leah addressed her biological Father very clearly in it. Her tone told more than any words could. That’s All they got? HAHAHAHA!

      • ExCult.Jan

        Oh, and whose current wife is 10 years younger than his daughter Leah. Creep.

  • Observer
  • madame duran

    All manner of celebs taking note of “Aftermath”…

    https://twitter.com/ChloeGMoretz/status/869697677608579072

    • PerpetualOutflow

      How those remaining must long for the good ole days when $cientology was actually growing, however slowly, classrooms were filled, buildings weren’t empty, celebrities were joining, and they weren’t a laughing stock in pop culture. You know, the days when there were still some interesting, creative people involved in contrast to the dweebs, hangers on, and scared zombies of today that they are embarrassed to be seen with and they would never want to socialize with. The days when they were wealthier and more influential, far less pressured, had their families and friendships intact, and thought they would soon have OT powers. The days when, as some contend, $cientology was actually “fun.”

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Before you insane SP’s accuse OSA of hacking someone’s phone in order to ruin the interview, we in RTC wish to say that, yes, that is exactly what happened. We did it. But you’ll never prove it.

    • chukicita

      Wait, we don’t do that anymore.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        “COB never slapped, hit, punched, choked, or kicked anyone — and he certainly never talked to Dwayne Powell,” declared Karin Pouw. “We in Scientology deny everything except our own OT fabulousness.”

    • Ben Franklin

      With a dose of truth serum and a lie detector, I think we can get to the bottom of it.

    • Mick Roberts

      Never prove it eh? Still haven’t caught up to Present Time with your 21st century technological knowledge? Let’s see if we can find any evidence here……ah-ha!

      I present to you, Exhibit A. I rest my case….

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/14398f702f9f7e9041aaa7ac720c0809f10fc028e4167136b7e2655ac5f6fd80.jpg

      • Puget Buckeye

        Gotcha!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Owning up to your sins is the very first step on the path of redemption, so if you can promise that you will…errm, umm, pfft, sorry there, wrong religion.

      There IS no forgiveness for $cn, but then again, this killer cult NEVER, EVER apologizes, admits error, makes amends, or in any other way shows contrition for its acts or compassion for its victims. So, confirmation that Elron’s will continues to be done is hardly required.

  • Ivan Mapother

    Teegeeack’s sweetheart, Jenna Elfman, has just begun her last half hour on network television. She now get back to her equestrian pursuits on a full-time basis. Good luck Jenna an ML.

    • Ben Franklin

      She might get back into dancing

      • Puget Buckeye

        Instead of Dances with Wolves she could do Dances with Horses?

        • Missionary Kid

          ZING!!!

          • Puget Buckeye

            Thanks Kid (may I call you Kid?). That’s my first Zing!

            • Missionary Kid

              People often call me Kid, Mish, and MK. Just don’t call me late for lunch.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      “Dear Jenna,

      The fillies have given me an ultimatum. Every time you visit I’m so drained that I can’t keep up my obligations. It’s either you or them. I’m so sorry, but I have to disconnect. I hope you manage to get your netflix somehow.

      ML, Silver”

    • We can only hope it’s her last half hour. Wow, this last show she did really sucked! That should put a fork in her “career.” Hope it doesn’t mean she’s going to do more videos with Bodhi.

    • April

      She’ll have plenty of time now to devote to her true love, Netflix.

      • I’m sure she’ll find a stable relationship.

    • mandymarie20

      Good thing she has a “highly successful” podcast to fall back on.

  • With the affluent kids ad, Scio’s becoming more upfront about just going after wealthy people, and therefore maximizing profits. Why go after poor schlubs who have to scramble to get $35,000 when you can charge more like a quarter million or so?

  • Mick Roberts
    • Mick Roberts

      Ron exclusively told us that, “This is their mantra. (They) don’t address the issues brought up by people like Leah and Mike (Rinder) and of course myself.”

      “(They) just character assassinate them,” Ron added. “The church are top notch professionals at doing this. Of course this is policy as laid down by L Ron Hubbard and is still being adhered to today and always will be adhered to.”

  • UhLasare

    OT: In watching last night’s special for a second time, I am again struck by how creepy the purif promotional video is. Each time I’ve seen it, I’ve been disturbed by the woman who is talking. I don’t know if she’s a never-in actor, or a Scientologist – I wouldn’t be surprised to hear she’s a Scientologist – she’s got a strange, haunting look on her face – she looks fragile and unwell. Her voice and words don’t match with her image. It just leaves me with a bad feeling. Does anyone know her story?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6ff2a828c2ed1e4645900bc9349f1f74f2a850538d4b452d367bd634d76ea91c.png

    • looks like this “i’m not a scientologist but..” young woman that just got older

      • Liberated

        People die on the purif.
        It’s medically unsound and created by a quack.

        • April

          I was wishing last night that Leah or Mike would point out that the purif involves potentially lethal megadoses of vitamins and niacin.

          • Liberated

            Maybe she will on season 2.

        • what has that got to do with anything? People die all the time, just ask David
          Did i ever tell you i was on purif 4 1/2 time? It cleans out Dead BT’s

          • Liberated

            Yes you told me, but 4 1/2 times ? Yikes !

            Did you get sick ?

    • Liberated

      She kinda freaked me out too.

    • just another guy out there
      • UhLasare

        You’re saying Lissa Uvizl (Anti-shirtless lady) is the women in the pic above? Looks like it might be.

  • Missionary Kid

    I’m willing to bet that George Remini didn’t actually read Leah’s whole book, or even the relevant passages, but they were read to him by someone who put them in the most antagonistic way.

    He obviously isn’t a reader, because most parents would read a book by their child from cover to cover when it came out. He was ripe for maipulation, and OSA manipulated him. In addition, his wifemay be jealous of Leah, and that could well contribute to his anger.

    • Puget Buckeye

      We gotta leave early to beat the traffic.

  • Quick empathy

    Off topic…just getting caught up on The Voice finale. In one of the skits that the judges do Blake told Adam that he has created the Church of Blake Sheltonology. He held up a picture of one of the scientology buildings but instead of Scientology it said Sheltonology! He said they are calling the church BS, for short!!! I laughed out loud! Hilarious!!! That’s right scientology, you are the butt of jokes!

    • Puget Buckeye

      In reading your linked article, the church’s response mentions “deprogramming attempts”. That phrase was mentioned earlier in these comments. It seems to me that deprogramming is a good thing and attempts to deprogram are good. So the church basically upvoted Leah and Mike’s program. Is my logic correct? And what moron wrote their response?

      • Deprogramming was something done a long time ago. Not very successful so i guess they dropped it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprogramming
        Scientology keeps referring to it just like 1950 psychiatry.

      • Deprogramming was (and is) a very bad thing.

        When the moral panic about ‘cults’ first broke, people could not understand why their kids underwent such a radical change of personality. The only model they had to understand this was the recent ‘brainwashing’ activities practised by the Chinese in the Korean war on Western POWs.

        These people were harassed, physically beaten, plausibly threatened with death and deprived of food and sleep. Some eventually complied with orders to read out daft ‘statements’ condemning their own governments.

        There arose a popular belief that these POWs had been forcibly ‘converted’ and were now ‘true believers’ in communism. This was ideologically convenient to some Western politicians, so it was encouraged. I fact, they knew it was nonsense.

        In 1956, the psychiatrists Lawrence Hinkle and Harold Wolf , of Cornell University, undertook an exhaustive study of brainwashing, with the support of the government and full access to the secret files of the CIA as well as some former communist interrogators and their prisoners. Their declassified, but conveniently overlooked, report refutes the effectiveness of all efforts to brainwash anyone – especially through inducing altered states of consciousness. Where thought-reform techniques do seem to have produced results, they argue, we are merely witnessing behavioural compliance brought on by threats and the experience of physical abuse

        Ref: 1994 “Brainwashing and Totalitarian Influence”, pgs 457 – 71 in Encyclopaedia of Human Behaviour , Vol 1. San Diego Calif.: Academic Press.

        The situation for cult coverts was also significantly different – they were not regularly beaten to a pulp by their guru, for example.

        That’s when a new (well-paid) ‘profession’ arose – the ‘deprogrammer’. The logic was that since these people had been ‘brainwashed’ it was morally acceptable to ‘brainwash them back’. Kids were snatched, held against their will and had brainwashing’ techniques applied to them until they complied and pretended to be ‘normal’ again.

        It didn’t work. Lots of them went back to the cult, confirmed in the belief that the outside world was corrupt and evil. Even when it did, the trauma inflicted was far worse that of the cult (which they typically left after at most a year or so, in any case). The practice ended basically because kidnapping is morally wrong and very illegal indeed.

        There are insights into the cult experience to be had from the few accurate accounts of Chinese ‘brainwashing’ – for example the use of sleep and food deprivation in extreme cases. However, the idea was dismissed in 1956 and, since then, psychologists and social psychologists have come up with better concepts with greater explanatory power for the ‘conversion’ of people to fringe beliefs. Here is a selection: https://scicrit.wordpress.com/understanding-the-scientology-mindset-series/

        The ‘brainwashing paradigm was popular during the rise of ‘cult’ groups because it provided a simple explanation for a complex phenomenon. Unfortunately it also provided a justification for the use of force, and gave rise to a small group of greedy entrepreneurs (the ‘deprogrammers). These people did far more harm than good and damaged the reputation of others who campaigned against ‘cults’ for a decade. Scientology, especially, used ‘deprogramming’ as a stick to beat critics.

  • Shivani33

    One of the most devastating moments on The Merchants of Fear was what Bryan Seymour said. The Australian tv journalist had resolved to maintain an unruffled and polite demeanor while investigating Scientology, its facilities and its membership, not wanting to let himself be provoked into any yelling matches with those Scientologists assigned to handle his guided tours. He told how one of the Scientologists came and said into his ear (not verbatim) that “we” know that you grew up in an orphanage and that they gave you drugs, and why don’t you just commit suicide. Bryan said that this almost broke him.

    • Liberated

      What’s that Cruise said…it’s a really beautiful religion.

      • Shivani33

        Beautiful religion helped Cruise to be “clear” many times. Like how he banished his teenage niece away from her entire family because she kissed a boy on Cruise’s property. Then there’s how he “clearly” has rejected Suri for several years. What a pip.

        • Liberated

          Pip’s not exactly the word I would use, but I understand.

          • Taffy Sinclair

            There are several words, & I should know thanks to LRH thesaurus clearing 😉

            • Liberated

              Wait..thesaurus clearing…did you just make that up ?

      • Taffy Sinclair

        No, it’s a gorgeous religion, old & true; started in 1982!!!!

        • Liberated

          I’m really trying to upvote you but it won’t work.

          • Robert Eckert

            I upvoted for you.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Sure, it’s a “beautiful religion”. A religion that has staff for him to cook, clean and cater to his every need for pennies an hour. A religion that sees to it that his airplane hanger is remodeled to the nth degree. A religion that “auditions” potential wives for him. A religion that requires staff bow and scrape and call him “sir”. A religion that thinks he’s third from the top in importance. A religion that gives him that God awful ridiculous medal for whatever the hell he did. Yeah, it’s fucking beautiful.

        • Liberated

          You forgot one…they’re not allowed to make eye-contact with the fucker, as they’re pimping out his ” mest.”

          • Puget Buckeye

            Oops my bad. I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks for the reminder.

  • Helen Van Patterson Patton

    I was reading Tony’s older article with Donna Fiore. http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/24/scientology-continues-to-handle-the-black-pr-of-leah-reminis-defection/

    In it she says

    These people are really stupid, Tony. They really are,” says Donna Fiore. They’re provoking Leah now, and if she opens her mouth — I mean really opens her mouth — it would be disastrous for them.

    That was in 2013. Looks like she called it.

    • Glen

      I followed your link and read that story. It was uncanny. I bet they had no idea how huge a disaster it would be.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Can anyone explain exactly how the gambit that Ford pulled in the Wollersheim case made it impossible for Scientology to use the 1st amendment defense?

    I really didn’t understand exactly what he was saying.

    • Good. So it wasn’t just me.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      I thought what he was saying was that $cientology was using the First Amendment defense, but he found a way around it by urging the judge or jury to set aside the religion argument and consider that they were dealing with the same set of facts but in the context of the mafia. Would they rule the same way? He thought that enabled them to see it for what it was.

      • Shivani33

        Another point was that Scientology kept justifying its fair game policy as a core value of the religion to be used repeatedly against Wollersheim after he quit the organization. Scientology worked at trying to destroy Wollersheim’s business and livelihood after he was no longer part of the cherch. Even on appeal, Scientology kept declaring that fair gaming is part of the religion. The judge spoke to discourage Scientology from using this practice and said it is not a valid religious practice to be protected by the court of law.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Wow, had never head that. Yet another example of brilliant foot bulletry.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Still wondering if that was what it was. I don’t have a way to rewind to review exactly what he said.

        But it does make some sense. “Would these exact actions, these behaviors be actionable if done by anyone else, not being defended as being religious?”

        But it seems that courts cannot bring themselves to use that standard. Whereas Juries might not have the same difficulty. True, much can happen on appeal also. But perhaps this is why Scientology has not allowed (I think) any trial to reach a jury for many years.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          I remember seeing something with Wollersheim (can’t remember if it was a video or something he wrote) after he won in which he said that it was all there…everything anyone would ever need to defeat $cientology in court. He said they and their attorneys wouldn’t need to reinvent the wheel but could literally utilize all of the work and learnings from his case to win theirs.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Yes, I remember a long article he published once. I don’t remember much. It might still be up. He had published it on alt.religion.scientology and also at FACTnet.

    • Eivol Ekdal
  • Todd Tomorrow

    This piece of shit absent father really pisses me off. $cientology shows once again they are beneath contempt.

  • Missionary Kid

    I’ve been away from the computer for most of the day. On my news feed, I got two articles about Leah’s show. Please excuse me if these have been posted before.

    The first is from Entertainment Weekly. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/30/scientology-and-aftermath-leah-remini-previews-season-2/ The headline reads Leah Remini previews LAPD, Paul Haggis involvement in season 2 of Scientology series That article starts out with a video and Few shows have packed more tension into eight episodes than the first season of A&E’s Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, which last year saw the King of Queens star (and ex-Scientology member and advocate) transition from the world TV comedy to publicly examining the controversial church. The 46-year-old partnered with one of Scientology’s former senior executives, Mike Rinder, for a deep dive into the religion, using riveting expository interviews with past parishioners and high-ranking church officials to highlight allegations of coerced abortions, brainwashing, sex abuse cover-ups, and the destruction of its followers’ families.

    Season 1 ended on a bit of a cliffhanger, however, as Remini and Rinder met with lawyers to explore serious options to take legal action against the multi-billion-dollar organization; as season 2’s summer premiere date looms, Remini and Rinder bridged the gap between episodes on Monday night when they co-hosted the two-hour Merchants of Fear interview special, during which they spoke with several journalists who’ve investigated the church in the past and offered an extended sneak peek at what season 2 has to offer.

    The second article is from International Business Times, which has its own video.from IBT. http://www.ibtimes.com/scientology-aftermath-season-2-everything-we-know-so-far-about-leah-reminis-ae-show-2545473

    The headline reads, ‘Scientology And The Aftermath’ Season 2: Everything We Know So Far About Leah Remini’s A&E Show and the article starts off with Leah Remini has said the Church of Scientology stole years of her life and cost her millions of dollars, and now she’s fighting back. The actress teamed up with Mike Rinder, a former senior Scientology executive and fellow suppressive person, to help others like them get their stories out there and take the church down in an A&E series titled, “Scientology and the Aftermath.”

    The show is returning for a second season after airing eight successful and drama-filled episodes in Season 1. Remini, 46, and Rinder are setting their sights even higher in Season 2 of “Scientology and the Aftermath.” They hope to continue giving people an outlet to tell their stories, while also taking legal action against those committing wrongs, according to Entertainment Weekly.

  • Mick Roberts

    And as I say good night to the Bunker, I leave you all with this tweet from the most powerful man in the world (posted 35 minutes ago and still up) for you all to ponder…..

    • And what a covfefe it’s been.

      • Puget Buckeye

        I once went to a covfefe. They ran out of ice. Lost the recipe.

    • Missionary Kid

      With that spelling, are you sure he isn’t a $cientologist?

    • Joe

      Please Xenu, let it be a stroke.

    • Shivani33

      When a borderline personality goes up the bridge and reaches dementia. With a side of sauerkraut.

    • Puget Buckeye

      Excuse me while I word clear covfefe.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Then clay demo to a supervisor pass 3x.

        • Puget Buckeye

          Swell. Do they at least have the colored Play Doh?

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Play-Doh is out-tech. It hardens, preventing reuse.

            Plasticine is the only ‘Standard Tech’ material.

            • Puget Buckeye

              Fine. I don’t want to play anymore. I’m going to take my COLORED play doh and go to sleep. I will dream of covfefes romping through fields of lavender. And very very UNstandard tech. 🙂

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Awww. Sorry. Don’t go away mad.

              There are multiple colors of plasticine, the greasy play clay that never hardens. Comes in sticks usually, 5 colors in a package.

              Poor Organizations had to make do with the grey green stuff. Made it a bit harder to show differences. When they did the clay table processing on Key To Life, they made sure to have bright colors in a variety.

              “Covfefes romping through fields of lavender.” Why am I reminded of unicorns?

            • Puget Buckeye

              Don’t worry, I’m not going away mad. I was messing with you.
              Yeah, unicorns and rainbows and covfefes.
              Good night.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              G’Nite

            • Liberated

              That’s was kind of beautiful.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Any idea about what “covfefe” was actually supposed to spell?

      • Tony Ortega

        coverage

        • Puget Buckeye

          How do you know that? Is that an insider word?

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Wow, that actually is quite a ways from “covfefe.” I couldn’t even intuit it.

          • Not so far away (in mobile phone keyboard sense) – if you miss the ‘a’ in the original.

        • Mick Roberts

          Well, despite what he was trying to sahjivi

        • Liberated

          I was gonna say something else.

          • GrangerFX

            So was he apparently.

        • Newiga

          Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I thought he was trying to speak Spanish. 😀

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      You have unwittingly captured the exact moment when the deep state swiftly replaced the real DT with an imposter. This tweet is the only evidence left.

      They finally had grown an acceptable chia wig and had to act fast.

      • Liberated

        Now that you mention it…his likeness would make a great chia pet.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          I claim copyright and trademark on the Chia Trump. (TM)

          • Puget Buckeye

            Uh, hasn’t it been done? Sorry to burst your bubble.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Shoot.

    • GrangerFX

      Sudden stroke?
      #covfefe is now a thing. Thanks Trump! Making Twitter great again.
      https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/30/covfefe/

      Urban dictionary added:
      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Covfefe&defid=11630863

    • GrangerFX

      I have figured it out! He was playing scrabble and all he had was covfefe. They said it wasn’t a word so he Tweeted it and so now it is.

      • MarcabExpat

        It’s the law. If the President tweets it, it’s no longer not a word.

    • Newiga
      • Storm Chaser

        “Something you say when you’re an imbecile, who may or may not be the leader of the free world. I’ve got a lot of bad covfefe.” Nailed it! lol

        • Newiga

          I present POTUS! May gawd have mercy on us all!

    • Interested2

      Jeee. And this from the most powerful man(child) in the world.

    • MarcabExpat

      I really really want every single correspondent at Spicer’s next presser to ask him how to spell covfefe. All of them, one after another. I am mean

  • MostEthicalPimp

    I think, I’ve figured out DM’s thinking on his new strategy for Narconon. He has come to the realization that the problems Narconon was having were because they were taking in Down stat DB patients who are knowingly sabotaging LRH’s perfect drug rehab program. So the solution is to get up stat patients…

  • Elendira

    One of the Miscavige’s new front groups should be: Graphs without Numbers are Meaningless International

  • Storm Chaser

    Really CofS, stop with the hate/smear campaigns already… you’re embarrassing yourself with these pathetic attempts to discredit your critics. We’re all on to your dirty tricks. Before casting shade on others, one should take a good look at their own dirty laundry, imho.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    “Families are what they are. They’re loving support systems and they can also be deep wells of sorrow and bitterness. Some of us are tight with our kin. Some of us would rather be solitary.”

    A-Fucking-Men. Its funny how people we meet in life can turn out to be a better family to us than blood kin.

    I hope George enjoyed being used by a nasty cult on its way out, and what attention and benefits he got out of them were worth it.

  • AntoniaW

    Somewhat O/T, but: as a Brit, I find the antics of our home-grown bottom feeder, JAW, particularly objectionable. There is a truly vile glee with which he broadcasts the anti-Leah smears that is both disturbed and disturbing. I think that our Proprietor’s general advice is that as both he and his unfortunate moll are paid propagandists, they are best ignored. But really, is there no way of getting through to him, no means by which we can tuck him back under the Icelandic bridge he emerged from?

    • Glen

      I applaud your sensibility but for whatever has brought him, he is a true believer in a turbulent social media age. I don’t think censorship nor awakening will reach him until there is a fundamental realignment in his soul. I personally just don’t see that happening. One can hope but some things we just have to live with, unpleasant though they may be.

    • That’s the central problem with the ‘true believer’. You can’t ‘get through’ to someone who spends their life in fiercely defended social isolation, and has been taught a number of strategies to avoid engagement and deny the validity of different points of view without even hearing them.

      He may not even realise how he comes over, because it does not occur to him for a moment that he is not speaking the absolute truth at all times. In fact, hostile comments probably only confirm him in the belief that the wider world is corrupt and attacks Scientology because they are afraid of its supposed potential to do good.

      The only opening will come when he falls foul of internal politics, and maybe starts to look at what critics say online -and then reaches out,. Why?Because he can’t tolerate another sec check, or think of anything else to ‘confess’, or won’t disconnect from Gemma. Even then, he might continue to toe the line.

      As for his activities on twitter – it’s simply a waste of time to reply to someone who will just block you. He’s preaching to the choir, and nothing you say will be visible to them, let alone make a difference. He’s so obscure already (how many members of the general public do you think follow him?) that all you do is draw attention to him.

      • AntoniaW

        Yes, I do see the sense in this.

  • ” Families are what they are. They’re loving support systems and they can also be deep wells of sorrow and bitterness.”

    “Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family.
    In another city.”
    (George Burns)

  • Emily

    I have watched all of these jokers hypocritically claim Leah is a terrible person for the past few months – but this is the first testimonial that has infuriated me to such a degree. Leah is under no obligation to financially support anyone, least of all her absentee father. It is highly likely some or all of the CO$ contributors were under some degree of duress, or at least have their own reasons for wanting to protect the church, but George is just being an asshole.

    I did chuckle when Dana said ‘He’s not tryin’ to help nobody’ then George raised double negatives.

    • Pittctycitizen

      I just watched a few minutes of it. What a piece of crap her “step-mother” (and I use that very loosely) is. She was in charge of the interview It is especially sad given the little of bit of coming together that Leah and her father did on her old reality show. I never, ever understand how someone can sell their soul to anyone or anything to dish dirt on someone else especially your own child.

  • Satellite Feed

    I never take seriously anything that the cult of scientology says. Their attacks are always reactionary and devoid of any ethical, moral, or spiritual high ground. What they don’t understand is that their so-called attacks empower whomever they attack.

  • Phoebequeen

    Wow, I haven’t read the book yet , so I didn’t really know about her being estranged from her father. Strange all around. I saw the show. Was excited it was 2 hours. Very interesting take with the reporters and now , they are facing the people that when in, made it their goal to mislead and worse.