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Leah Remini: In Scientology, all sickness comes from enemies of the church

The second episode of Leah Remini and Mike Rinder’s podcast “Scientology: Fair Game” went live this morning, and we have it embedded here for you to listen to.

Not surprisingly, in the wake of such tragic news as the cancer death of Kelly Preston and suicide of Benjamin Keough, Mike and Leah say they’ve been getting a lot of questions about Scientology and sickness, depression, and death.

And the most powerful statement Leah makes in the hour-long episode is that for Scientologists all ailments, including cancer, only happen because they have been exposed to something that opposes their church. You are sick because you have become a “potential trouble source” (PTS) and you are connected to “suppression” — something or someone against Scientology.



Mike explains that if you go through Scientology auditing to root out what’s making you PTS and you still aren’t getting well — like if your cancer doesn’t magically go away — then you have to go even deeper into auditing and looking for some other cause, perhaps in a past life. “It’s always the belief that if you find the right thing, it will resolve.”

The onus is always on the person to discover what’s making him or her PTS, not on the ailment itself.

After a Scientologist reaches OT 3, Leah explains, they will then be ridding themselves of body thetans, which it turns out are clinging to us. On OT 7, she said she was supposed to go into solo auditing with herself five times a day, talking with these unseen entities. And when you’re sick you’re trying to find the body thetan that thinks it’s cancer and is causing the disease in you.

“What are you?” you’re supposed to ask the body thetan, according to Hubbard’s instructions.

Eventually the body thetan is supposed to realize it’s not cancer and then go away and find another body, Leah says.

Hey, isn’t this a twisted way of practicing medicine without a license, she asks?

Timed to go with the podcast is a terrific lengthy essay that Leah and Mike posted at Mike’s blog yesterday, going into depth about Scientology attitudes about medicine, mental health, death and dying. It’s the kind of post that Mike puts up on occasion that you should bookmark for future reference. It’s a goldmine.


Bonus items from our tipsters

Clayton has a cognition…



Fun with graphs!


Another success story…



Source Code

“I know it’s fashionable for the newspapers to say I never went to college and there are several colleges at this particular time that are wishing that I hadn’t gone there. But I can also assure you that you give them another decade or so, those colleges I haven’t even done more than go to a prom at will have some plates on ’em. You know? Man is silly, you see?” — L. Ron Hubbard, July 28, 1966



Overheard in the FreeZone

“At one point, about 2 weeks into the Rundown, I found that as I ran around that tree, there were literally blue sparks and loud crackings of electrical energy, between myself and that anchor point. I felt like I was recharging, as a being, and as I ran, like a turbine, my energy levels increased and I spotted the cause of this energy – me. I could swing my body around that tree with next to no effort – and while running more than a marathon daily, I was full of energy, life force and zest. The rundown has nothing to do with the physical body — and is all about you, as a spiritual being. So simple, but so powerful.”


Random Howdy

“Someone please find the e-mail they sent out telling the clams how to go to the dentist and get their gold fillings extracted for cash to donate. That is the ultimate example of what Scientology really is for me.”


Full Court Press: What we’re watching at the Underground Bunker

Criminal prosecutions:
Danny Masterson charged for raping three women: Arraignment scheduled for September 18.
Jay Spina, Medicare fraud: Sentencing is set for August 27 in White Plains, NY
Hanan and Rizza Islam and other family members, Medi-Cal fraud: Next pretrial conference set for Jan 12 in Los Angeles

Civil litigation:
Luis and Rocio Garcia v. Scientology: Oral arguments set for August 30 at the Eleventh Circuit
Valerie Haney v. Scientology: Forced to ‘religious arbitration.’ Hearing on motion for reconsideration set for August 11
Chrissie Bixler et al. v. Scientology and Danny Masterson: Sept 4 (CSI/RTC demurrer against Riales, Masterson demurrer), Oct 7-19 (motions to compel arbitration)
Jane Doe v. Scientology (in Miami): Jane Doe dismissed the lawsuit on May 15 after the Clearwater Police dropped their criminal investigation of her allegations.
Matt and Kathy Feschbach bankruptcy appeal: Oral arguments were heard on March 11 in Jacksonville
Brian Statler Sr v. City of Inglewood: Amended complaint filed, trial set for Nov 9, 2021


Scientology’s celebrities, ‘Ideal Orgs,’ and more!

[The Big Three: Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Kirstie Alley]

We’ve been building landing pages about David Miscavige’s favorite playthings, including celebrities and ‘Ideal Orgs,’ and we’re hoping you’ll join in and help us gather as much information as we can about them. Head on over and help us with links and photos and comments.

Scientology’s celebrities, from A to Z! Find your favorite Hubbardite celeb at this index page — or suggest someone to add to the list!

Scientology’s ‘Ideal Orgs,’ from one end of the planet to the other! Help us build up pages about each these worldwide locations!

Scientology’s sneaky front groups, spreading the good news about L. Ron Hubbard while pretending to benefit society!

Scientology Lit: Books reviewed or excerpted in our weekly series. How many have you read?



[ONE year ago] Scientology uses actor Jason Dohring as bait in what ends up as a false imprisonment case
[TWO years ago] Scientology in Europe: ‘A scapegoat always had to be found when something went wrong’
[THREE years ago] Bryan Seymour takes a Scientology field trip, and we’re the better for it
[FOUR years ago] As Stacy Murphy lawsuit heads to crucial hearing, two Scientology entities settle
[FIVE years ago] From Cradle to Slave: Nora Crest starts her video series with frank talk about Scientology and sex
[SIX years ago] Scientology’s fight with Ryan Hamilton delivers dox: The Eric Tenorio affidavit and more
[SEVEN years ago] With Leah Remini Under Attack on Twitter, TV Actor Christian Stolte Was a First Responder
[EIGHT years ago] “Tom Cruise Worships David Miscavige Like a God”: A Scientology Insider Gives First Full-Length Interview to the Voice
[NINE years ago] VIDEO: Scientology Spy Comes Clean to Riverside County Board of Supes


Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley (1952-2019) did not see his daughter Stephanie in his final 5,667 days.
Valerie Haney has not seen her mother Lynne in 2,012 days.
Katrina Reyes has not seen her mother Yelena in 2,516 days
Sylvia Wagner DeWall has not seen her brother Randy in 2,036 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his grandson Leo in 1,056 days.
Geoff Levin has not seen his son Collin and daughter Savannah in 947 days.
Christie Collbran has not seen her mother Liz King in 4,254 days.
Clarissa Adams has not seen her parents Walter and Irmin Huber in 2,122 days.
Carol Nyburg has not seen her daughter Nancy in 2,896 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 3,700 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 3,016 days.
Dylan Gill has not seen his father Russell in 11,582 days.
Melissa Paris has not seen her father Jean-Francois in 7,501 days.
Valeska Paris has not seen her brother Raphael in 3,669 days.
Mirriam Francis has not seen her brother Ben in 3,250 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 3,511 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 2,549 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy and daughter Jessica in 2,262 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 1,787 days.
Charley Updegrove has not seen his son Toby in 1,317 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 5,877 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 3,017 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 3,337 days.
Roger Weller has not seen his daughter Alyssa in 8,192 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 3,311 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 1,667 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin and daughter Taryn in 5,970 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 2,076 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis in 2,478 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 2,350 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 1,933 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike and daughter Emily in 2,428 days.
Mary Jane Barry has not seen her daughter Samantha in 2,682 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 13,791 days.


Posted by Tony Ortega on July 28, 2020 at 07:00

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