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How Humira, the world’s best selling drug, is helping to finance Scientology into the future

[Bob and Trish Duggan with Scientology leader David Miscavige]

The always reliable Jeffrey Augustine has scored another fascinating document for us that we are happy to share with you today.

It’s a tax document showing that the richest Scientologist donors in the world, Bob and Trish Duggan, recently found a way to make sure that millions more will be going to the church each year, and with no end in sight.

That’s the conclusion we’ve come to after looking at the tax document Jeffrey found and sent to us recently. It’s a 2015 tax return for the Bob & Trish Duggan Foundation, and it has some eye-opening numbers.

We’ve written numerous times about the Duggans and their amazing largesse to Scientology. Bob is currently worth about $2.8 billion, according to Forbes. His wealth zoomed in 2015 when he cashed in by selling Pharmacyclics, a company that had multiplied in value thanks to a successful cancer drug. Each fall, the Duggans are given a huge new trophy to celebrate how much they’ve donated to the church. This past year, we estimated that they’ve now given something like $80 million just to the International Association of Scientologists, only one way that a church member can give money. Forbes claimed that Bob Duggans’s total giving to the church has reached $360 million, but they didn’t explain how they reached that figure.

And now, it appears that the Duggans have found a new way to funnel money to Scientology. After talking with Jeffrey and looking through other records of the Duggan Foundation, this is the picture we’ve been able to put together.

According to tax records, the Duggan Foundation has been around since at least 2012, but for both 2012 and 2013 it reported no assets or income at all. But in the 2015 return which Jeffrey obtained, it has a remarkable new valuation.

On December 24, 2015, the Duggans moved 1 million shares of stock from the pharmaceutical firm AbbVie into the Foundation, with a valuation of about $59 million.

AbbVie is the maker of Humira, the rheumatoid arthritis medication which in 2014 became the world’s best selling drug. In 2015, AbbVie acquired Pharmacyclics from Duggan for $21 billion.

So, on the last week of 2015, Duggan moved 1 million of his AbbVie shares, worth about $59 million, into his Foundation, and estimated conservatively that its annual investment income from that seed money would produce about $2.9 million in annual “distributable income.”

With only a week left in the tax year, the Duggans didn’t have time to distribute any of that money. But they made it clear who would be eligible to receive it in the form of charitable grants:

“The Foundation restricts its contributions to 501(C) organizations that are churches of Scientology and affiliates social betterment organizations,” the document states.

Jeffrey points out that since the Duggans socked away that AbbVie stock to generate income for the church, AbbVie stock has gone from about $59 a share in 2015 to $72 today. If that income generates only a 5 percent return, as the 2015 document conservatively estimated, that’s about $3.6 million annually for donations to Scientology initiatives. We’ll be very interested in about a year to see the Foundation’s 2016 tax return, and find out what it says about which Scientology entities receive those donations.

Let’s put that Duggan generosity in some context of what other wealthy donors are giving to the church. When you see a Scientologist like Jim Bridgeforth get a big trophy like he did this past fall for moving up to “Diamond Meritorious” status…


…that $5 million in donations he’s being recognized for is a cumulative total and may have taken him 20 years to achieve.

With their Foundation, the Duggans have set aside pharmaceutical stock so that it may reliably generate around $3 million every year for the church, without doing anything at all.

That’s not to say that Scientology leader David Miscavige won’t be hitting up the Duggans for even more money every year, but it allows for a steady flow of millions to the church year in and year out, and without any “regging.” (Scientology officials who hound members for donations are “registrars” or “regges” for short.) We don’t know if this new arrangement has anything to do with the 2016 death of Charmaine Roger, the registrar who was assigned personally to the Duggans. But we can imagine that it’s an arrangement that will make things easier for both sides.

The upshot? The better AbbVie does selling Humira and other drugs, the better the Church of Scientology does. That’s pretty ironic for a church that openly hates the pharmaceutical industry and pushes for a “drug-free world.” And we also can’t help wondering how the people who run AbbVie feel about it.

Here’s the document. Our thanks again to Jeffrey Augustine!



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  • MostEthicalPimp

    Everytime, Bob Drug’em makes money off drugs and not Scientology. He is calling LRH a lair.

  • Noesis

    As an aside, Forbes lists Bob Duggan (in 2017) as # 782 among the world’s richest billionaires.

    Imagine having a net worth of $2.8 billion and only ranking 782nd among your “peers.”


    On a different list, the Forbes 400 Wealthiest Americans (also 2017) – Duggan is listed at #264.

    Imagine the drool that comes out of wee Davey’s mouth when he sees those listings.

  • Storm Chaser

    Wonder where the Duggans put all those ginormous trophies? Hope it’s not In the same treasure room as their cheetah.

    • Noesis

      One of the trophies is used as a cheetah feeding bowl.

      I understand they like raw meat – to eat – not to reg.

  • downtherabbithole

    OT – Being technology challenged , I have a question/issue I hope someone can help me with.

    When I try to view some daily post on my ipad and there is document attachments, I continually get “a problem occurred with this webpage so it reloaded”.

    This always occurs when I scroll down to read the daily comments and has become so damn annoying.

    I am lazy at times and do not wish to sit at my desk (sitting up right & stiff) to read the days news and much prefer to laze on my couch.

    Does anyone else have this issue? If so, what is the solution so I do not have to sit at this horribly uncomfortable hard chair.

    • Rasha

      I do get this on my iPad and iPhone. I think it’s an O/S versus doc embedding tool thing.

      Just a guess on Rasha’s part.

      • downtherabbithole

        Bangs head on desk.

        ETA: Wondering if I could move my couch into my office….

        • Rasha


          • downtherabbithole

            Well then because I have to sit in this god awful chair, I am going to eat the cake treats (mini cakes) my auntie sent home with me and just bask in that glory.

      • Observer

        Yep, me too. Never happens on my computer. Some days it’s a lot worse than others.

        • EmmaDaoust

          Then I’m kinda glad I didn’t fork out the $ for an iPad or an iPhone and can continue to suffer with my old adenoid android.

    • Gflded Kim

      Yup. All the time. Very annoying

    • Gflded Kim

      And I can never watch any of the videos posted. I have to go to YouTube

    • Rasha

      While we’re in Technology Corner, anyone know the best way for me to find my very first comment here in the Bunker, without having to work backwards, a page at a time, from newest to oldest?

    • Liberated

      I have the same problem – I sit on a sofa with a cushion in the small of my back.
      Sitting in a hard chair, well I just can’t do it for a long period of time.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      If Dice’s advice doesn’t work, all I can say is yes I still occasionally have that issue on iPhone & iPad & the best I can offer is “Welcome to Disqus!!!” Definitely try Dice’s link below, but I still have the issue during busier times on Disqus (AM shortly after the post, afternoon/evenings between 3:00-6:00pm PT because that’s premium end of workday time for people everywhere in the US.

      My solution? Large glass of wine or (since it’s summer) margarita or another fun summer drink that’s a bit stronger 🤣- also makes our posts so much more fun! 😋

  • Townhouse For Sale – Downtown CW

    Name: Chris
    Publication Date: 10 Jul 17

    Townhouse for sale by owner – 3 bedroom 3 bath, 1 car garage, living room, kitchen and office with guest bath, pool. Walking distance to downtown CW and CW Academy. Selling price reflecting some needed updates. $179,000

    Probably not Tom’s, right?

  • flyonthewall

    AH-HAA!!! I GOT YOU YOU BASTARD! “Wings beneath my wind” eh? That supposed to be like you’re farting on me, right? Haha so funny. Not!

    • Observer

      Take a chill pill, man. 💊

      • flyonthewall

        it just now dawned on me what he meant and I didn’t want to let him get away with it

    • EmmaDaoust

      Just now you’re getting it?

      • flyonthewall

        this is not a race

        • EmmaDaoust

          hey don’t shoot the, uh,

    • Jimmy3

      You’re beautiful
      You’re beautiful
      You’re beautiful
      It’s poo.

  • Just musing about the Detroit Idle Morgue.
    Scientology should just sell it. It is in a prime location, and is one of those 30’s (?) very well built buildings.
    And with things hoppin’ in downtown I’ll bet they would come close to doubling their investment.
    Of course nothing Scientology makes sense, but I’m going to predict that they will sell within 6 months.
    And I’ll go one further. They will acquire a suitable property out in the far ‘burbs, and use that as a pretext. That and the changed nature of downtown Detroit.
    That is all.
    I’ll check back in 6 months to pay off the bets.

    • EmmaDaoust

      The building in Toronto is on primo real estate and it’s falling apart and they haven’t paid taxes in aeons. They should sell. Why don’t they ever listen to us, Shorpy? If they paid attention to all the good advice we have for them here in the Bunker, they’d be expanding x47. Groan.

    • PeaceMaker

      Boston has ended up doing something very similar to what you speculate about – though I believe they’re still waiting for the older building they bought and then gave up on trying to renovate, to finally sell, so that they can renovate the newer office park property which they bought later, an they’ve been stuck in temporary quarters ever since they sold their original building. San Diego did a variation of that, and there may be another case or two. I suspect that a number of the orgs that got in over their head with historic buildings, are going to do the same and buy newer office park properties that are cheaper to renovate. Several orgs have recently foregone the idea of historic downtown properties, and just bought an office building for their new “ideal” orgs.

      • Yeah, some of that went into my thinking.

  • Cheap & Nothing Wasted

    Their foundation is on “Druid Road”?
    Then there’s hope, as the Druids have been extinct for centuries!

    • iampissed

      If I might….Druids are people, so not extinct. There are modern Druids. If you like look up Isaac Bonewits. Interesting read.

      • Rasha

        Lonestar: “Great. Just what we need…. a Druish Princess….”
        Barf: “Funny… she doesn’t look Druish.”

        • iampissed

          Cultural ref I dont get……love ya you know. But Pissed no get.

          • Rasha

            From Spaceballs. Captain Lonestar and his co-pilot Barfolomew find that they’ve rescued Princess Vespa, daughter of Roland, King of the Druids.

            Being a Mel Brooks movie, there has to be Jewish jokes all over. ^_^

            Only link I can find on short notice – the audio is not good, but….


            • iampissed

              Thank you.

      • PeaceMaker

        Original Druidism went extinct in the middle ages. No original teachings or writings survive, so the various modern incarnations are based on what can be gleaned of them from secondary sources, and almost certainly fall short of actually recreating their beliefs and practices. But it could probably be argued that they are not too much farther off the mark, than say modern Christianity is from whatever Jesus actually preached and intended, even if Christians can claim a continuous lineage.

  • Observer
    • iampissed

      How did you feel about tubular bells?…….and thank you for denver wish we had, had more time.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Hey you! So I emailed you then forgot to check email for the last week between some family visiting and my 2nd oldest having another accident in my car (he was safe, my car… not so much 🙄😭) Been looking for your posts so I could say say HI – I miss you, friend!!! And I’ll get my scattered brain/arse on email & in the AM! 😘

  • Todd Tomorrow
  • Pia Pill

    Okay; O/T but maybe this has already been addressed. I don’t watch TV as I have said in the past (DVR Leah’s Aftermath show and watch other stuff on my Android). Anyway, with the death of the actor from True Blood (Nelsan something at 39 ….), I NOTICED this because of his age …. then last evening I was adventuring through YouTube and Steve Mango’s YouTube channel (maybe Tony had one of Steve’s YouTube clips on a recent posting????) and literally stumbled upon one of his postings where he explained he did one of the “sauna programs” (whatever they are called with this actor!!!!! Since the actor’s Father was saying Nelsan was an Alcoholic and he was trying to “quit on his own” …. does this WREAK OF SCIENTOLOGY INFLUENCE?????? Just wondering if anyone has discussed this. It is really sad for his family and children! Just saying … (I am going back to my corner now; am reading about Trump Jr emails …..) 🙂 Pia

    • Pearl Wisdom

      Yes, I posted yesterday that I had seen Nelson Ellis (True Blood) at a Christmas Show at Celebrity Center, Hollywood about 5+ years ago and wondered if he was in. I also stated how I was a member for over 25years and left the crazy group. I joined up to find “total freedom” from drugs and alcohol; but nope. 3 Purification Sauna Rundowns and lots of $$$$ later I was still an alcoholic. So I quit the Cult and joined AA. (been clean and sober 5 years. Yes, AA -It’s working for me AND NO, Scientology DOES NOT HANDLE ALCOHOLISM or DRUG ADDICTION as their “technology” is based on a Loony who died on drugs himself – LRON. Scientology does not believe that Alcoholism or drug addiction are diseases but are moral lapses or mental blocks (i.e. those pesky bt’s) causing it all. Also, they DISPISE Doctors who prescribe anything to help alcoholics/drug addicts; since drugs are bad thus lots of untreated and unhandled alcoholics and addicts. You See, Scientology does not allow for any of its members to “mix practices”. meaning, you cannot attend another church and worship God; you cannot do Yoga classes and say “Om”; you cannot go to AA, or NA, or any other program as Scientology says “They ALONE have all the cures and answers to Drug/Alcohol Addictions. Well, Nelson is proof the Purif did not work for him. His dad wrote in the paper how he died trying to get himself off Alcohol without any help and that is the reason he’s dead. That’s Scientology at work.

      • Pia Pill

        I must have read your post …. then somehow stumbled onto Steve Mango’s videos. This is SO VERY SAD!!! Another life gone way to soon …. glad you made it out and so very proud that you had the tenacity to believe IN YOURSELF and pursued your goal in getting off alcohol. I have my own demons; art, jewelry, makeup (anything with color really) and SODA believe it or not. I have tried to kick my soda habit going on over 30 years (it’s the caffeine that I am after …. I don’t drink coffee). I will back off and stop drinking it all together then slowly creep back in …. but since I have had vertigo, sometimes I can not EVEN LOOK at a soda because it just makes me want to throw up …. it has been awful but I have scaled back a LOT!!! First it was exclusively diet soda …. then the last few years I switched to “leaded” sodas but I really don’t drink that much anymore …. I drink a lot of water with lemon now. ….

        Sorry for the rant; but I am in awe of you. Congratulations on the 5 years and counting. It is AMAZING what we can do when we put our minds to it (as my mother used to say …..). Me; my go for it moment was deciding to become a Jet Engine Mechanic (did that for about 10 years part time) …. long story but so glad I did it …. (that is where I learned how to SWEAR) 😆

        Congratulations again

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      I saw a video Steve Mango posted (didn’t watch but saw description) on YouTube where he said Nelson was actually his “twin” for much of his early training.

      • Pia Pill

        Oh; I missed that one! This one was about the sauna stuff (or maybe it was and I just misunderstood that he was only talking about the sauna stuff ….) 😊

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          It may have been the same one – I remembered seeing twin, but he may have said that was through his purif. I’ll see if I can find it again – it just popped up when I was looking for another video by someone else.

    • Using Cold Turkey and sauna to quit alcohol has been described as very dangerous by an addiction expert (in a Danish newspaper article).

      I would hope that everyone with a medical problem got qualified help as opposed to the ignorance based quackery dished out expensively by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology (with a proven track record of killing victims in narCONon).

      • Pia Pill

        Understood! Hope his family (if they are NOT Scientologists) will look into this further and hopefully take measures to do some PSA to prevent avoidable deaths as this one may well have been. This is so very very sad ….. 😕😢😡

  • FredEX2

    Hi there OSA.
    July 4th in Seattle within 30 minutes of posting a comment and including a photo of Tony’s book “The Unbreakable Miss Lovely”on the Bunker…this guy shows up and takes my photo straight on…then walks past me and goes over to some security volunteers and points in my direction then leaves. I notice the earwire in his right ear.


    Yesterday evening it was still daylight and the weather was nice so decided to go for a walk on the beach where I live…and this woman was trying to take my photo when I was coming up from the beach back to the stairs up to the street. I looked up just as she stared straight at me ( there were numerous people still out enjoying the evening…but she was startled when I recognized her and shook my head…) She fumbled with her camera and nearly dropped it she was so freaked that I had clearly ‘made’ her…so she took off at a trot nearly runwalking like a scared rabbit obviously hopping to evade me…which only made her more obvious…and she clipped thru the crowds on the sidewalk and dashed around the corner to another street probably thinking she had lost me…lol…Imagine the look on her face when she got to the end of the parking lot and there I was in my own car motioning for her to go ahead and pull out in front of me…she looked freaked and hesitated….but I just kept saying…with a big Cheshire grin…Mike and Leah style “No you go…no you go”…lol…so of course she finally knew she was caught and by then I already had her photos and plates and car make & model etc…and she pulled out and screeched away as if in a NASCAR race…as I laughed. Got videos and other pics…so do the authorities 🙂 Won’t post them here…but told by an unnamed source to post this online here for OSA. Come on guys. Really?

    Here she is starting out at a clip as soon as I spotted her. I watched the videos several times last night with a couple of friends and we were laughing…counting all the ways she gave herself away.

    • Rasha

      She demonstrated “Confront and Shart” Tech in action. ^_^

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        I swear I don’t recall the part where she SHARTED!!! And if you blame it on spell correct Rasha, then I’m really gonna LOL because it means you’ve used an unofficial word so much they added it to your personalized dictionary (which only makes me ❤️ you more!!!).

    • daisy

      SMH What you go through , and with good humor . Good for you for not being intimidated. What a bunch of bully assholes. Keep enjoying the summer Fred. big hugs

    • iampissed

      Your more important then i am….I’ve promised cookies.

      • FredEX2

        Cookies are always a good choice. 😉

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Glad you went to the cops. Seattle cops have confronted their PI’s in the past and from what I witnessed they wanted nothing to do with the police.

      • FredEX2

        More than cops. 🙂

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Good for you!

    • FredEX2
      • Liberated

        You tell ’em..girlfriend.

    • Puget Buckeye

      FredEX2, I’m so sorry that you encountered this at the 4th of July fireworks. You and I were have such fun chatting back and forth and I had no idea this was going on. It looks like this guy is wearing an ID badge of some sort.
      And the lady taking you pic last evening….creepy. No one should have to put up with that crap.
      I’m not familiar with your background but please know that there’s someone here thinking about you.
      As I like to say “tap into your inner bitch” and fuck being polite.

      • FredEX2

        He was wearing a tag but he wasn’t police or security there. There was a heavy presence of police there. I was in an exclusive section that you had to have tickets to get in and he just wore a tag…but no one else was dressed as he was in any of the security, volunteers or police. OSA and their security force have arm badges and name tags that make them look official so they can be mistaken for security or police. It also helps give them an appearance of ‘credibility’so they can infiltrate easier if need be. I was only about less than 5 miles from the Seattle Org. Maybe more like 3 miles away. 🤓

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          At least they were brilliant & one of the two was someone you’d actually RECOGNIZE – staff getting a bit thin there OSA?!? 🤣😂

          SOOO proud of how you handled yourself GF! 😘

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh no, FredEX2. Damn, you should not have to put up with this. I am glad you reported it, videos and all.

  • Observer

    The Faculty is on SyFy, and DJ Donkey Punch’s face is filling the screen. 🤢

    • JaxNGold

      That sick son of a bitch.

      Last night I was flipping through channels. Not much was on. So I started watching the cliche chick flick My Best Friend’s Wedding. A scene came up with Masterson in it – a young Masterson. Never knew he was in that film. Had to change the channel.

      Can’t wait to see that son of a bitch get what’s coming to him.

      Edit — typo

      • Puget Buckeye

        He’s in that movie?!?

        • JaxNGold

          I was wrong. It’s his brother Chris. They look a lot alike. My bad.

      • stillgrace2

        I think that was Chris, not Danny?

        • JaxNGold

          Not sure. You may be right. It just looked so much like him.

          • JaxNGold

            You’re right. Just looked it up.

  • Noesis

    Did someone post evidence (not just speculation) that the Duggan’s are divorced?

    This is usually not a difficult fact to check but I can’t find confirmative evidence that they are divorced. Some indications (including a March, 2017 Forbes article) still show them as a couple.

    If there is strong evidence that a divorce has occurred, could someone post a link or pointer to the comment where that evidence is noted?


    See screenshot below of a portion of the March 2017 Forbes article indicating Bob Duggan’s marital status as: Married:

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I can’t find any record of a divorce in Ca. or Fl. on a public records check. It is a service we have at work that does background checks. Seems like they would have done it earlier in their lives.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Can you still go to Reno or Tijuana to get a quicky divorce?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I think it’s just as easy to have your spouse killed in Tijuana.

          • Puget Buckeye

            Do they own real estate any place else than Clearwater?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Yes, in Ca.

  • Bob Crouch

    Another interesting aspect is that Elron consumed copious amounts of drugs to inspire his “research.”

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Giving his son speed so he could “inspire” his own research was clearly one of his finest moments. A close second was kidnapping his infant daughter to be taken care of by mentally challenged folk.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Do you ever wonder if LRH knew, deep down, that he and his behavior were messed up? I ask that because I think he did. I think he knew he and his ideas were perverse. He didn’t openly talk about the way he treated his children, he didn’t talk about his second wife, he didn’t openly talk about all his interactions with Parsons or his infatuation with Crowley. I think he knew, deep down, he was whack. And he spun this tale of Dianetics and Scientology to account for his eccentric proclivities.

        • NerdHerd

          From his massive dislike of “psychs,” you’d almost think he was analyzed by one and had to face the truth of his own mental issues. Then, he decided to totally disregard that opinion and declare all psychs evil. His mental condition mirrored the condition of his teeth for a reason.

          • Puget Buckeye

            I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he came across a “psych” during the course of his illustrious military career. It may have been at that time, he realized he was “different” and decided to just roll with it.

            • NerdHerd

              Agreed. It makes sense that he got a few psych evals after the f-ups he made in the Navy. The US MIL knew he was full of shit

            • Supper Powers

              He sought out psychological help from the military in a letter. They refused. Later, the APA and/or AMA rejected his theories of Dianetics causing, I speculate, a narcissistic injury. Then it was game on for Hubbard. Rejected by psyches, he made them his enemy. Like any good borderline does. Not that’s what he was, but it sure smelled a little like that disorder to me.

            • Jenyfurrrrr

              Supper said it well – and yes there is plenty of evidence that even as he became successful w/Dianetics & beyond, he continued to beg the government for additional disability and “possibly psychiatric help is needed” it’s truly shocking how he openly wrote the government telling about the many bad physical and mental conditions from which he suffered as he told the world he hadn’t the answers to everything!!

        • daisy

          He tried to peddle dianetics as an approach to the mental condition . He was widely panned and ridiculed for his theories. Not being taking seriously for his great insight damaged his fragile ego.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I do not think Ron had that sense of insight or introspection.

          I have seen too much evidence of a narcissist, psychopath, etc.

          He knew it was all a con.

        • Liberated

          IMHO..I think everyone knows exactly what his/her true motives really are.
          Hubbard wanted to be a god – cause deep down inside he knew he was a bad person.

        • PeaceMaker

          I’ve give it a fair bit of consideration, and can chip in for what it’s worth.

          I suspect he may have been bothered by some of what he did, but buried or dismissed it with justifications, partly borrowed from Crowley’s “do what thou will shall be the whole of the law” philosophy along with might-is-right and end-justifies-the-means utilitarianism, that allowed him to dismiss any harm he did to others. It’s also possible that he was enough of a psychopath, that nothing bothered him.

          I don’t think that we will never have too much insight into the morass of his mind unless some truly revelatory new information surfaces someday.

  • Gib

    Bob Duggan has recently purchased a stock and invested in a company known as stock symbol PLSE,

    Bob Duggan ought to do some due diligence on the E-meter and observe if there ever was a clear or OT.

    Jeez, what a tool!!!!! being used by scientology and DM

  • ziddina

    If insanely wealthy imbeciles like these can afford to support cults like Scientology (and fundamentalist idiocies), then it’s time to tax those fuckers at a 90% tax rate.

  • daisy

    Fat beagle got out today. The woman who brought her back asked when she was going to have her puppies. She was about to ask me the same question but realized I was menopausal. Diet kibble for daisy and her dog tomorrow. She did say she was a high quality dog though.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Send her to me, I’ll whip her into shape right quick. You, however, are on your own.

    • Supper Powers

      Fat beagle needs her own account. I want to know what she is really thinking when she is intently ignoring you or running from you.

      • daisy

        She is a scientology dog who is desperately trying to disconnect from me .She has a crush on the JW dog next door .

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          You never cease to crack me up!!! Diet kibble for Fat Beagle but Miss Daisy looks beautiful and is PERFECT! 😘

          • daisy

            Thanx sweetie

            • Jenyfurrrrr

              Anytime, lovely!

        • Liberated

          So, just swat the dog next door with a rolled up “all along the watchtower” pamphlet.

        • JaxNGold


        • Puget Buckeye

          Well sometime you just can’t help who you fall in love with. Besides maybe it’s just animal attraction.

      • Liberated

        Yeah, Meme has her own account.

    • Puget Buckeye

      You’re going to put yourself on diet kibble? Harsh.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      How did you “bring this in,” Daise-Daise?? What are your crimes?

      • daisy

        loving too much ( hangs head and wipes away a tear )

  • EmmaDaoust

    Don’t forget to click the heart!

    Good night everybody!

    • Puget Buckeye

      Thanks for the reminder. Clicking. Nighty night.

  • Puget Buckeye

    Time to say goodnight to the Bunker and the screen. I’m out.

    • JaxNGold

      Nighty night 😴

  • NerdHerd

    Hubs on the sofa back in the day might have saved the world from his personality disorders 😁

  • OOkpik

    Three+ hours until Tony’s next post. *sigh*

    • Liberated

      Points for playing Hank Williams – are you aware of the tremendous influence he had on so many artists of today?
      Bob Dylan used to listen to him early on and said when he sang the lyrics of a song he sounded like he was crying – I can see that.
      Did you ever see the movie about him starring Tom Hiddleston ? I never did, just curious if you did.

      • OOkpik

        Good morning, Lib.
        Hank Williams left a great legacy. I don’t recall having seen a movie about him but do enjoy revisiting his songs now and then.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I think if I didn’t know who Hank Williams was, I would have probably liked it more but maybe not. It was kind of boring. I like Hiddleston in just about everything but he was bland in this. His musical numbers made you wonder what all the excitement was about. It did make me google his wife’s music though, not as bad as I was preparing myself for. I wonder if anyone thought about casting Hank 3…

    • EmmaDaoust
      • OOkpik

        Aaaaw, sweet! HOOTERS! Party time. <3

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Random notes: Hank Williams Jr is godson to June Carter Cash.

      No idea why I thought of that. 😀 Good song.

  • Markthehungarian

    Over on Mike Rinder’s Blog, one of the commenters mentioned that Bob and Trish Duggan are divorcing. Is there any truth to that?

    • Graham

      Someone mentioned this early on today’s post, claiming they were already divorced. When I asked for dox, answer came there none and a google search came up with nothing. Disappointing that someone would make a claim like this and make no attempt to back it up.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Not that I want to spread this rumor further. But would it make sense to move assets to a foundation? Sure you’d loose the ability to gain from it legally but it would still be in your possession. IDK if it would be that beneficial though.

    • Juicer77

      No dox that have been produced. I would take it with a grain of salt until we have more info.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • John Prince

    Is the IRS picking up on any of this ? Co$ is an official share holder in a pharamcuetical Company? Does THAT Sound like a “donation” or more like uncle bob has discretely set them up in BUSINESS? The Gift that keep on giving, eh ? How wonderfull that pope davey can continue to line his pockets while the clampire crashes and burns😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

  • Iconoclast Six

    With all the word salad that he self-published, I note that L. Ron never said a thing about “a fool and his money.”

  • Scream Nevermore

    It will be awkward if my doc tries to prescribe this for my RA. What price my refusal to buy Scientology-supporting products then?? 😀

  • Jgg2012

    Could it be that Big Pharma is trying to infiltrate Scientology? Yes, the Duggans are sending them millions, but there could be fine print that allows a reversion. I want to see what happens when these empty orgs Duggan has funded are not being used.

  • Once again, the bigger story was missed.

    “Abbott gave out free samples of Humira to seniors in 2003 while
    it lobbied Congress to get the drug’s $15,000 to $20,000-a-year costs
    on the Medicare dole. It wasn’t even Halloween. (P.S. — it worked!)”