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Scientology loves to gladhand Florida politicians, even though it usually has little effect

Rod Keller continues to keep an eye on Scientology’s sneaky front groups. He has another dispatch for us on how the church is trying to influence Florida legislation…

This week Florida Scientologists were flooded with requests from two front groups to contact their senators and representatives regarding a number of bills being considered to modify the Baker Act. The act allows qualified doctors, nurses and police to bring a person they believe is a danger to themselves or others for involuntary psychiatric evaluation.

As we reported in February, Scientology is lobbying the legislature against allowing advanced registered nurse practitioners to initiate a Baker Act examination. Now they have found a proposal they support – requiring examination of children to be done faster, and establishing a panel to study why so many people are given a Baker Act examination in Florida. Scientology supports any action to curtail psychiatry, and opposes any expansion.

 

 
Scientologists Diane Stein of the Citizens Commision on Human Rights (CCHR) and Gracia Bennish of Youth for Human Rights visited dozens of Florida legislators earlier this month to lobby for restricting the Baker Act and against its expansion.

 

 
Senator Victor M. Torres represents the area around Kissimmee, Florida and is Vice Chair of the Children, Families and Elder Affairs committee, which voted on the Scientology-favored SB 1580. He stands between Stein (left) and Bennish (right) in this photo.

 

 
Senator Keith Perry represents a district around Gainesville, and sits on no committees related to the legislation.

 

Representative Evan Jenne represents Hollywood, Florida and also sits on no committees related to the bills.

 

 
Representative Chris Latvala represents Clearwater, and his district includes the Flag Land Base. He is not a member of the committees considering the bills.

 

 
Representative Barbara Watson’s district is in North Miami, and she is also not on the relevant committees.

The fate for all of the alternate and opposing bills related to the Baker Act is that they will probably all fail, despite several receiving unanimous votes of support in committee. The Florida constitution limits the length of the legislative session, and this year it ends on May 5. In an April 9 article Jim Saunders of the News Service of Florida describes the large issues remaining for the session, and sources in the legislature agree that the budget will take up enough time that few other issues will receive attention before the session expires.

Scientology is opposed to HB 645, to allow advanced registered nurse practitioners to execute Baker Act certificates. The bill passed unanimously in committee. HB 7011 is a very similar alternative, and passed committee by a 10 to 8 vote. The senate version, SB 1756 also passed a subcommittee vote unanimously.

HB 1183 would require children to be examined within 12 hours and would establish a panel to review the Baker Act. It passed a committee vote unanimously. A similar bill in the senate, SB 1580 also passed in committee unanimously. The Scientology-supported SB 1580 in particular has a rough road to passage as it must be approved by both the Judiciary and Appropriations committees before reaching the Senate floor, and the latter committee’s time will be consumed by budget negotiations.

 

 
Scientology isn’t letting on that it knows these bills are probably doomed to die in committee. The point for Scientology is not whether or not these small adjustments are made to the Baker Act. Instead, they can present their lobbying efforts to public Scientologists to show they are leading the fight against the “psychs” and to assure them that their contributions to the International Association of Scientologists (IAS) are being well spent. A three-day trip to the capital city of Tallahassee by two Scientologists is an inexpensive way to justify millions of dollars in donations sent to the IAS. This is why only one of the PR photos shows a legislator responsible for the Baker Act legislation. It’s not relevant to their effort whether they lobby the proper legislators; the photos alone serve their purpose.

 
— Rod Keller

 
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Sneaky, sneaky Scientology

We received this from one of our readers….

My husband and I were sitting to eat snacks at the LA Festival of Books when a man with a clipboard approached us. He asked us if we would be willing to fill out a survey for a publishing company. My husband said yes, so the man gave us both surveys and pens. As I started to fill it out my husband asked him, “Is this in reference to fictional characters?” to which the man replied, “Yes, I believe so. I’m just helping them get these surveys out.”

As you can see in the picture, I was moving right along until I hit…”High confront.” Hmmmm. I asked the man, “Is this publishing company related to Scientology?” He replied, “It’s a local publisher.” Double hmmmmmm. I again asked, “Related to L. Ron Hubbard, right?” He sighed a little and said, “Yes, Galaxy Press.” I stopped, folded the survey up, and politely said, “I’m not going to be finishing that, sorry.”

My husband was wrapped up in his survey, and I didn’t want to make this man go “High confront” on me so I just sat there. Then the man said, “What gave it away?” I pointed to the item and said, “High confront…the rest of the world doesn’t talk like that.” I was expecting him to do anything, from giving me the silent treatment to demanding to know what my crimes are, but surprisingly he started to make small talk with me that was completely unrelated to anything Scientology-related. This reaction made me think that perhaps he wasn’t a Scientologist, and really was just helping a Scientologist friend out with this task. It was pleasant and went on until my husband finished his survey, and gave it to the man who then walked away. I explained what happened to my husband who said, “Shit, did I put my contact information on that thing?” Luckily, he didn’t.

And as far as this survey being about a fictional character? I don’t think so. All items sound like ways Scientologists would describe old Elron.

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,729 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,832 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,326 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,366 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,078 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 604 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,693 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,833 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,153 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,128 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 484 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,786 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 893 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,295 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,168 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 749 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,254 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,498 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,607 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 23, 2017 at 07:00

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The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • iampissed

    All the rest get shelter pods.

  • iampissed

    Good question…what if he dies?

  • Tony Ortega

    I know our politics are completely polar opposites, but I like going on Jim’s show.

    • Sherbet

      Did you get a free survival kit or bottle of Heart and Body Extract?

      • Tony Ortega

        No, but he’s sending me a crossbow to keep the neighbors out of the bunker when the shit hits the fan.

        • Sherbet

          He sounds personable and interesting, but his ads are beyond weird, like products Ted Kaczynski would endorse.

        • iampissed

          Im Seeing a silent auction at howdy con.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Jim’s being quite respectful and knowledgeable.

    • iampissed

      Who are you talking to?

      • ExCult.Jan

        The whole congregation.

        • iampissed

          But he likes going on Jims show…it’s all good.

        • iampissed

          We dont have one.

          • ExCult.Jan

            We don’t?

    • Sine qua non

      It appears he is an evangelical, but hey, we all see things differently. I think it’s terribly important that we make a point of communicating with those who see important issues differently than we do (I get lots of practice with my dear HUSBAND, sadly!) because we all need to live on the same planet (until we go to Target 2 at least) and besides, we can all learn from one another. So good for you, Tony.

  • daisy

    The Path actress is on Chris Hardwick , maybe she will talk the Path .

    • beauty for ashes

      Hi smooshie face. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • daisy

        shnugglle

  • iampissed

    Well that was a Hit and Run…LOL.

  • outraged

    Isn’t that Martha Stewart up there in the polka dot shirt?
    I had no idea she crossed over to the dark side of the force.

  • Sherbet

    OK, done here, iampissed.

    • iampissed

      Thanks…Sorry folks for the tech stuff it’s what I do and I don’t get much of a chance
      to do it.

  • ExCult.Jan

    Nice, Tony! Covered a lot.

  • iampissed

    Good interview Tony, it was clear and came thought well.

    • beauty for ashes

      God, I’ve been here a long time. If anyone hasn’t seen it, or has memory problems like me, Hey ~I should watch it again I probably totally forgot it by now ! Excellent!

    • April

      “They said I was the next Amy Poehler. But… it just doesn’t work that way.”
      “I didn’t want to do improv any more. They told me I was disconnected.”
      lol

  • WhatAreYourCrimes

    Rod Keller, you are a saint. Keep up the good work,
    Do you have a site or whatever, for a supporter like me to throw you a few bucks?

  • mrssandoval

    Gosh, here I am again, telling y’all my personal shit. Sooooo, as someone who’s mentally ill, who has had substance abuse issues, I fully support the involuntary holds. I do not believe in taking away one’s right to an autonomous life; however, I do support those laws that hold people if they’re a danger to themselves or others.

    At one point in my addiction, I didn’t want to live anymore. I researched and found that barbiturates are used for euthanasia. Do you have any clue how hard it is to score barbiturates?!

    I planned and planned, wrote my note, placed a DNR on myself (they’re not honored in suicide attempts), swallowed a bunch of anti-nausea meds, opiates, barbiturates, and slit my wrist for good measure. I called everyone to tell them I loved them, and laid back until my plan would take me away.

    One week later, I’m in a very sanitized hospital room and I call out “God?” to the doctor fiddling with my wrist stitches. He told me he’s not God, I’m alive, and I’m on a psych hold. Fuck!

    That psych hold is what got my meds straightened out, and it gave my husband conservatorship over me, ensuring I’d actually take my meds. I thought taking them made me weak, and that my addiction wasn’t noticeable. I’m not weak, and any addiction is noticeable.

    What these fuckoids don’t understand is these meds SAVED MY LIFE!! I shudder to think about those inflicted 100 years ago, or those living in conflict. It’s so scary to think of these lifesaving meds as nonexistent; it’s so scary to know there’s people out there who’d try to take me off of them; and what’s worse, there are people out there actively judging me for this?!

    Remember that Tom Cruise/Matt Lauer fiasco?! I’ve never watched a TC movie since. Asshole.

    • Liberated

      I think you’re a pretty strong person to tell your story. Thank you

      This arrogant group thinks they can judge and condemn people for receiving real help and they claim ” only they ” have the answers for a person’s despair.
      Well, just look what they did to Lisa McPherson.

      • mrssandoval

        Liberated – The Lisa McPherson case hurts me deeply. I can’t believe that can happen, in America, without serious prison time!

        I hope that by telling the stories of my life, maybe just one person won’t feel so alone. Maybe I can help someone in need. Maybe, like me so many years ago, will stumble upon this and know that there’s someone in this world who gives a shit.

        When one is born with a mental illness, cos cannot understandโ€”nor are they equippedโ€”to handle it. I cannot imagine Lisa’s despair and fear as she was held captive. How many others are out there that have felt helplessness from the cos?

        Just know that someone believes you, knows you need more than a sauna and vitamins, and is willing to help you if you need it!

    • Sine qua non

      Good for you for getting REAL medical help! I became an accidental Bunkerite and Scientology expert while researching ECT on the internet. I was considering having it because I’ve struggled with depressive issues for years, and there’s no better way to make Scientology ads pop up on your screen than to repeatedly Google “ECT” (Electroconvulsive Therapy, which, by the way, is very effective for many people like me who just don’t get relief from normal antidepressants.)

      Anyway, Scientology’s terror and hatred of Psychiatry is the real insanity. LRH ripped off and convoluted psychiatric tenets and twisted them into his branded “religion” which only brainwashes and tortures people. I guess he just couldn’t handle the competition from legitimate health care providers, so instead, his “religion” turned the goal of destroying Psychiatry into dogma. I thank God I was never unlucky enough to get sucked in.

      As for those judging you for getting help for your medical condition-remember, the only judgement that matters is what you think of yourself. Period. I think you’re doing the right thing, and it sounds like you realize the wisdom of getting real health care, too. Best to you. I’m glad you’re getting support. <3 <3

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Love to you, too, Sine ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Juicer77

        So very well said.

      • mrssandoval

        Sine – Why do you guys always manage to make me start to cry?! That’s a good thing, though, and I love the people on here!!

        There’s nothing wrong with ECT, and it’s not like the way it was portrayed on “One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.” At least, it’s not like that anymore!

        I was in a facility for people with disorders that aren’t harmful, nor did anyone have any psychosis. A woman in her late 60s had tried every drug that has ever come out for as long as she can remember, to no avail. Her last stop was ECT, which she did with fantastic results. Did it cute her? No, but it made meds work, and gave her a life! I, for one, fully support anything that alleviates one’s physical and/or mental suffering.

        Mental illness has always been highly stigmatized. I was diagnosed in 1985/1986, and my parents never told me. Their reasoning was that I was just different, and no one needed a label for that. Plus, my dad felt that being different was being extraordinary, so he never saw it as a problem. Prozac wasn’t yet invented, and so I’d have to take small doses of Valium whenever my anxiety caused a lot of insomnia.

        I’m eternally grateful for Paxil. It’s a harsher antidepressant, but it works and it saved my life! I have a disease, not unlike diabetes, that needs medication and care. I loved using it to weed out would-be suitors; if they were serious about me, they’d have to accept my illness!

        Good for you! I’m rambling about me, but good for you! Did you do the ECT? If not, I wish you light, love, and luck!! You’ll be just fine. I’m glad you found this site; together we will take this cult down! You’re in my thoughts and prayers, Sine!

        • Sine qua non

          No, I did not do the ECT. Here’s why: I, a depressed night person living on one end of traffic snarled Metro Atlanta, would have had to have driven thrice a week to the other side of Atlanta for at least two or three weeks to arrive by 8 AM for outpatient ECT sessions. I would have had to have been up by 6 AM. I know this is lame, but I can’t do that. Not unless it’s for paid work. So, I’ve just stayed on my meds, and I’m muddling through. My sense of humor, dark though it may be, is my best ally, but I think the medication helps too. If I ever find a place that does afternoon ECT, though, I may give it a shot. It’s nothing like it was portrayed in “Cuckoo’s Nest (as you said) and is effective for many who are not helped by antidepressants.

          It irks me a bit how ECT is always portrayed as the “last resort” treatment option for depression, when it probably ought to be tried much sooner for some who are seriously depressed. I do think the Scilons have done a lot to stigmatize it though, scaring away many people.

          Anyway, don’t feel badly about taking Paxil or whatever your M.D. recommends if it helps. Please. We have got to do something about getting rid of this mental illness stigma. It prevents too many people from getting effective treatment. Sigh.

          Hang in there!

          • mrssandoval

            Sine, you’re my soulmate!! You, too, suffer insomnia?! I feel like the last person on teegeeack who’s awake every single night! Sigh. I have meds, but my mind will race right through themโ€”and I get the good meds!

            And no, it’s not lame when you have insomnia, and that has to work around your schedule. I stopped my allergy shots because if it! Not like that’s the same, but you get the idea.

            There’s nothing wrong with ECT. I got Graves’ Disease (hyperthyroidism) after my son was born, and I have to get that under control. I was going to do ECT, but then this happened.

            It’s still quite common and very effective, especially to those who are medication resistant. Stupid cos saying they’re doing it to kids, making it sound like the last scene in “Cuckoo’s Nest”, making it seemed forced, further stigmatizing an already stigmatized disease(s) is beyond disgusting. “Matt! Matt, Matt, Matt, you’re glib; you’re glib, Matt!” Wonder if high school dropout Tommy knows what glib means?

            I hope you feel better. My heart goes out to you. Atlanta is a lovely city, though, and I’m jealous of you. I’m stuck in Seattle, trying to work on my marriage. Talk about insult to injury!

    • OOkpik

      Man, that was rough!
      I so admire you for accepting the help and for speaking up and sharing your story. You never know who else might hear your story and seek the help they so desperately need. I’m glad you’re here. (((Hugs)))

      • mrssandoval

        Thank you, OOkpik! I’ve told ALL of my sad stories on here, as if this is a support group! I just love the people on here, hate the cos stance on psychiatry, and want to reach out to those affected by this cult. My heart breaks every time I read a story or a comment on here about the abuses of this cult. I do hope that by lil’ ol’ me speaking up, someone else may get the courage they need to get help, speak out, speak up, anything!

        Again, thank you. It truly means the world to me!!

        • OOkpik

          <3

    • ReallyMGM

      One in every five adults in the United States experience a mental illness. Illness is NOT a weakness.
      Your story gives strength to me and many others.

      ETA: I am part of the 20%. I have PTSD from being in a F4 tornado when I was a kid. Our home was flattened with us in it. Over 120 people died that day. I was trapped under the wreckage for at least an hour. (We lived in a rural area.) We were not hurt physically. I never got early treatment (didn’t exist), and I covered my symptoms up. No one, including my parents, friends, and husband, knew I had panic attacks and depression until I had two massive panic attacks out of the blue years later. It was just like the balloon finally burst. A good psychiatrist put it all together.

      It is very hard to talk about what happened to me during and afterward, and I don’t share my entire story with many people. I have found most people doubt PTSD experiences.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh my God, what an awful time in your life. What a strong woman you must be to have come through it. I have buckets of admiration for you and for your husband – and for the kind clinicians who cared for you in your time of greatest need. Thank you so much for opening yourself up here. I’ve got tears in my eyes at how brave you are. You are inspiring.

    • Juicer77

      Thank you for being brave enough to share this. I’m so glad you got the help you needed and are sharing what you’ve learned with others. I, too, deal with mental illness and am thankful every day for those “evil psych meds.” Involuntary holds need to be kept lawful, they save so many lives.

    • SarahDB

      Thank you for speaking your truth even though it’s about such a private subject. This helps others to know they are not alone! (((((((((HUGS)))))))))

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      You are very courageous. Your voice should be the one these legislators hear.

    • Ann B Watson

      You are a Brave soul and thank you for this post. I do not believe in judging anyone except Ron & dm because they knowingly committed high crimes on myself and so so many more. When I was at my wits end my last few months in the Sea Org I was told to stand Quartermaster duty almost every night. At a complex as large as Big Blue this was 1978 there should be two night watchpeople, but of course I was the only one assigned. That particular night I was doing the rounds and an office door was ajar. I happened to be right there & heard a person say Do not worry about Ann Bailey my maiden name because if she drops the body she will be back in 21 years anyway. Whoa that is when I saw that the teachings of the Cult of Scientology always regard a human being as raw red meat unless they morph into a slave Sea Orger or celeb whale eager to keep feeding dm. I realized it did not matter to the Sea Org if I was alive or dead and this was like the sword of Excalibur through my heart. I so wanted to believe the Sea Org was above cruelty, punishment,shame and degradation amoung
      many other terms I could use. They are are the source of all the horrors they pretend to ignore. I will never stop calling out for the cult’s implosion. It has hurt and destroyed so many lives. I send you love and support I am honored to meet you mrssandoval ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œโค๏ธ

    • Kristen

      Thank you for sharing your story. I’m so glad you got the help you needed and you’re here today!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Something to make you smile. Pete Griffiths and Captain Billy Drummond yesterday – F5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d1d431d5a23fc180df6436713f82672ccea03e7fbbb52e03c6d762c9ad8f3e76.jpg

    • Marshall

      Didn’t know Capt Billy’s story before. Watched a couple you tubes from the Dublin event. Thanks!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        He’s a sweetheart ๐Ÿ™‚

    • ReallyMGM

      These two never fail to make me smile. ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ€๐ŸŽฉ

      My dad wears a cap like Pete’s every day. Different tweeds/wool in winter. Cotton with pattern or plaid in our God forsaken Southern summer heat. I frigging love those hats and give him new ones every chance I get!

      I hope eventually make a gathering to meet everyone!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Infuriatingly Scientology’s National Affairs Office has managed to spin a positive story in today’s Irish Journal. They been sending the same small group of Irish Scientologists – accompanied by photographers, a professional video camera, and even a rep from Scotland’s Edinburgh org – to Sheriff Street, a deprived part of Dublin, for weeks now to visibly litter-pick (while being filmed, natch). John McGhee and our friend have kept them under close supervision but that hasn’t stopped their perseverance, and now this happy-clappy article.

    Yes, it’s great that any volunteer group should attempt to beautify an area, but we know very well that this is simply a PR exercise orchestrated by the new NAO. Having said that, if all the NAO has managed to achieve in the months since its opening is one positive article I suppose it could still be classed as a big fail, but the Irish press are so clued up on Scientology’s shenanigans thanks to Pete, John, John Duignan and the Irish SPs that I hate to see them taken in. I guess they have to be fair and balanced.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/scientology-sheriff-street-3346465-Apr2017/

    • I see what you mean he he!
      “I would like to start up my own Church where everyone can benefit from paying no taxes.. Lets call it Taxfreetology โ€“ get volunteers to do all the work for free!”

    • OOkpik

      It is a real shame that their helping the community is blackened by the cherch’s unsavory motives. SMH.

    • Vault Digger

      This is the author of the article if anyone wants to pass on their appreciation https://twitter.com/michellehtweet

    • Vault Digger

      The author of that article liked this tweet that was directed towards her. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d63961d4bab75d83cfdd8bd7e823a9c63419bcb105eafe5032a36c384dbe5f6c.png

    • Juicer77

      Any good they do should be reported, just like the bad stuff, even though we know it’s done with ulterior motives. Thankfully there are smart people educating the public on what those ulterior motives are! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Here is the link for a replay of Tony’s earlier live interview on the Jim Paris show (discussed below): http://podcast.gcnlive.com/jimParisLive/0423172.mp3

    • Ann B Watson

      Dice! Thank you! Lovely kitty too.๐Ÿ˜ป

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. This cat is obviously NOT into gladhanding. ๐Ÿ™‚ Coffee is on, help yourself to a donut. (refresh for gif)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff167918f57fb8c5bc13730573a404a5359d8a2e1e4850cf70692c9df7bfa6aa.gif

    • Ann B Watson

      How you make me Smile each new day with coffee, Cats kittens I adore them all and your presence which happens to be calming btw….๐Ÿ˜˜โ˜•๏ธ

      • Juicer77

        Aw. ๐Ÿ™‚ Tell that to Mr. Juicer, he says I’m high maintenance!! The nerve!! XD

        • Ann B Watson

          And you may tell Mr. Walter that if he thinks there is only one high maintenance wife on the planet & he says it is I, then I just found another one so now there are two of us lol 35 years married can be funny and otherwise all rolled into one! Love U & yours. Meow says my Jade Cat…โค๏ธโค๏ธ๐Ÿ’–

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Thank you for the coffee. https://youtu.be/gIXw-3H48yU

      • Juicer77

        LOLing! Cats being cats!

    • ReallyMGM

      This is Lily and my husband. She doesn’t pull this crap with me.

      • Juicer77

        Lol they have a special bond!

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    That survey clearly is designed to fish for “neutral” documentation that LRH is the original superman and Indianna Jones. (I also doubt that scientology, including all of its front groups, even those ostensibly run by women, will ever get a clue about their failure to use female pronouns.)