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As Clearwater votes, here’s a reminder of how L. Ron Hubbard had Scientology invade Florida

[Hubbard in Queens, NY in 1973, photo by Jim Dincalci]

It’s a big day for Clearwater, Florida as its city council votes tonight whether to purchase for $4.25 million a 1.4-acre parcel of land that’s key to its redevelopment plans downtown, and to defy the Church of Scientology, whose leader David Miscavige has said he’s willing to pay $15 million for the same empty lot.

Tonight’s vote will be the latest test of the Gulf Coast town’s resolve in the 42 years since Scientology literally invaded the city to make it a permanent base of operations. Since then, Scientology has taken over more and more properties downtown, turning it into a creepy ghost town while other nearby Tampa Bay communities have thrived.

Tampa Bay Times reporter Tracey McManus has been doing great work informing residents in the area of what’s at stake and what’s really behind Scientology’s offers to buy the parcel and pay for its own version of downtown redevelopment. She recently quoted, for example, from Scientology scripture to show how the church is really determined to make Clearwater a “Scientology city,” something our own Rod Keller had also pointed out from church literature.

But we wonder if it still hasn’t sunk in for some locals about how Scientology really thinks about Clearwater and what it’s doing there. We thought, perhaps it’s best if they heard directly from the man himself — Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

In 1975, Hubbard was tired of running Scientology from sea. Since 1967, he’d been operating the organization from the bridge of the Apollo, the flagship of his little three-ship armada which plied the Mediterranean, Atlantic, and then the Caribbean, getting kicked out of more and more ports and countries. That period was interrupted by the ten months Hubbard spent hiding out in an apartment in Queens, New York with his medical officer, a young medical school dropout named Jim Dincalci, and a bodyguard. They hid in Queens from December 1972 to September 1973 while the Apollo was in drydock in Portugal and while French agents were looking for Hubbard to question him. They eventually returned to the Apollo, which made its way to the Caribbean in 1974.

After another year at sea, Hubbard was ready to get back to land, and once again he turned to Dincalci, asking him to set up a place for him and his wife Mary Sue and their personal staff to stay as they returned to the US.

Hubbard had already chosen Daytona, Florida as a temporary home as he considered several other places for a permanent base, eventually settling on Clearwater.

And a tape recorder was running as Hubbard gave Dincalci instructions for how to maintain secrecy as he found a place for Hubbard and Mary Sue finally to come back to land. We checked with Dincalci yesterday, and he tells us the tape is genuine. It’s bounced around places like WWP for years, as has a partial transcript. We cleaned up the audio a bit, and tried to improve the transcript. We didn’t have time to turn the transcript into captions for our video, but you can still read along with the transcript as the audio is playing.

It’s a revealing recording because it’s rare to hear Hubbard speaking to a single person and not to an audience. You can really tell the difference. Also, it’s educational to hear the way he barks at the poor little “Commodore’s Messenger” who comes into the room trying to bring him some proper maps. You really get a sense of what it was like to be around LRH in private as he tears into the young girl.

After getting settled at Daytona, Hubbard would then begin the invasion of Clearwater itself, which was referred to as “Project Normandy” in Scientology papers. Under a fake name, the United Churches of Florida, Hubbard’s agents sneaked into town and bought up two of downtown’s landmarks, the Fort Harrison Hotel and the Clearwater Bank Building. The takeover of Clearwater had begun.

Residents of Clearwater, listen to the way L. Ron Hubbard speaks about sneaking into Florida. This is the man current church leader David Miscavige worships and does his best to emulate.

 

 
Hubbard: I’m sending you out tomorrow on a Flag Project Order, un-numbered. Uh, you will have the original here. And the mission purpose is as adverbally briefed. And the major target is to accomplish your project within three days. Primary target the transport, some money, and proceed. And the vital target is to accomplish the project flawlessly and within three days of arrival. And operating targets obtained 49, 99, money from B. Livingston. Ah, obtain your air tickets, proceed, reach your project. Telex completion, stand by as briefed. Ah, telephone com, and telephone RONY [Relay Office New York], obtain their number. You have to obtain their number, obtain RONY’s number. And on completion of the project send the following telex: “Date to R, got it.” That’s all. And you will leave your phone number and address as a message to M. Full name, at, and that of course, that M, ah, is just a name, is just a letter to be on here. But ah, it would be something on the order of ah… Kima Douglas. (To Commodore’s Messenger) Oh my god no, will you put down that. Get the road map, the road maps. Go on pick that up. Fast … Fast (To Dincalci). The ah, you give it to Kima Douglas.

Dincalci: I didn’t get that last part you mentioned, to M. I didn’t get it…Get what that was exactly.

Hubbard: What are you…

Dincalci: Kima.

Hubbard: All right, that’s just a code.

Dincalci: Code, code word, OK.

Hubbard: That means Kima

Dincalci: I didn’t know this, what this is for I got the first…

Hubbard: I’ll give you all about this.

Dincalci: Oh, OK.

Hubbard: I’m just reading you your project orders.

Dincalci: Oh, all right.

Hubbard: Now, you have to leave that at the Miami Springs Hotel, Motel. Pardon me, the Holiday Inn. Miami Springs, 1111 South Royal P–O–I–N–C–I–A–N–A, Poinciana Boulevard, at Miami Springs. And the phone number is 885–1941.

Dincalci: Holiday Inn Motel, Miami Springs, 1111 South Royal Poinciana Boulevard

Hubbard: Brother, now hear me. Kima Douglas, Holiday Inn. That is very secret. She doesn’t even know about it. Kima Douglas, Holiday Inn, 1111 South Royal Poinciana Boulevard, Miami Springs, and the telephone number, you get it?

Dincalci: 885–1941

Hubbard: That is right. And you will leave her your address and phone number. All right, that gives the thing, now the reason why…

(Sound of Hubbard typing.)

Hubbard: That’s all, now this merely permits you to go through lines. There are no other copies. And so you don’t tell anybody, anything. You understand?

Dincalci: Yes, sir.

Hubbard: Now that serves as a…That will let you draw the money on your airfare. Now you’ll have to listen carefully because all of this is verbal.

Dincalci: OK.

Hubbard: And the reason it’s verbal is because of security. And you’re an expert on that.

Dincalci: Was trained well.

Hubbard: Yes, and the number of notes you take should not be anything, spread around.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: But you can take some notes if you want to. You got to have that address. You got to have that. So that you can get your money without my running you around with a messenger and all that sort of thing. Now, you want to pack up your gear. But you won’t be coming back to the ship.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: You understand.

Dincalci: Yes, sir.

Hubbard: Now, that stuff which you don’t want to carry, make sure that it’s perfectly packaged with your name on it, and so forth. Other crews’ moorings will be handled similarly. All right?

Dincalci: Yes, sir.

Hubbard: They won’t lose any of your books or things that I care about. In other words, move out, put it in cardboard boxes. Nail it down, fix breakable things so they don’t break.

Dincalci: All right.

Hubbard: Got it. And then your travelling gear. Take what you will need with you for a couple of months. Now, what I want you to do — this is in a high security level — what we’re gonna do is do something which doesn’t look like it’s very high security, so you have to watch it. Ah, there’s nothing out for me, any place. But there’s some people who would love to serve some subpoenas on me, the off beat. And even if they did, that wouldn’t be a total catastrophe because it would simply be protested. And the line of the product would simply be out-ethic, fill out an interrogation or something. It’s just nuisance value. IRS is snarling around one way or the other. And they might sometime in the future, if they don’t grant them non-profit status, why, I…it’s very doubtful if they would ever call me as a witness because it would be almost a fatal move on their part. They tried to in the Hawaii case. At Charleston, simply to delay the case they knew that they had lost everything so they decided they would do that, delay the case and….And they lost it, they lost the case. It was a strategic maneuver on their part, but it was an asinine maneuver. So they can sometime do asinine things too. So we just make it difficult for them. Now, a certain number of crew, particularly aliens and so on, are being put over here on the beach. Not here, and ah, we’ve got the place. It’s all in hand and that’s a staging area and they’re going to be moved from there to a permanent base which we don’t have. We don’t have any permanent base. But we’ve got about five that we’re dickering with. This is, we’ve got some but we want something better. We want it, a better price. Ah, they can be there as long as three months. But this is very touch and go because the ship will be going on then, you see.

Dincalci: Yes, sir.

Hubbard: So we’ve got to have some place to land as a permanent base. Now these cats very often don’t expedite rapidly unless I’m on the lines, right? So I’m gonna be on the lines. But nobody’s gonna know about it, because it’s a very small handful. And this place is at Daytona. And, Daytona’s not in season yet. And the motels and things are all empty up there. And I’m counting on the fact that probably the apartments are too. Now, listen carefully. There will only, there will be about seven in my party with Mary Sue. So you probably have to have about three apartments or something. The longest you will want these things will be about sixty days, but that sounds like vacation time.

Dincalci: Yeah.

Hubbard: So it’s just tourist vacation, good roads and good weather.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: Now ah, the name you use is immaterial at this stage of the game. But what did Brunell know us as.

Dincalci: Ah, Larry Harris, Frank Morris, and Don Shannon.

Hubbard: All right. Now you could give him as a reference, say you want to have his address. They don’t even ask…don’t even ask them for anything around when we we’re trying to really rent a place it was just some stinking bankers with the place, that we we’re trying to handle, that were getting nosey. Ah, we were on tenterhooks here trying to get one place, but you’ve got him as a reference, see? There’s no lead goes back to that.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: Now, if you figure it out, you got to have some place to cook. Um, a place for Mary Sue, a room for Mary Sue and a room for myself. So probably that your ideal scene would be an apartment for us, with one or two other apartments for the other people right next to it.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: And it’s pretty empty at Daytona Beach, which is why I’m saying Daytona Beach. It’s also empty in St. Petersburg, but I don’t want to be down there.

Commodore’s Messenger: They’ve got a bigger one than this but they’re looking for it, just gotta find it. This one goes down to here and then it continues…

Hubbard: And that’s all they got?

Messenger: They’ve got another one but they…

Hubbard: There’s not even any map of Miami on this. What the hell are you talking about, man? There’s usually maps of Greater Miami and the bigger cities. What is this, the eastern seaboard?

Messenger: …actually doesn’t have…

Hubbard: Montreal! Oh, for Christ’s sakes. Oh, for Christ’s sakes! You go down and tell those guys to take the Florida map out of the San Chappy(?) folder, mission folder.

Messenger: All right.

Hubbard: And so on, that’s worthless, man.

Messenger: Yes.

Hubbard: That’s Philadelphia! Get outta here.

Messenger: All right, I’ll go and get that one.

Hubbard: Mmmm. It shows where Miami is located.

Messenger: Yeah.

Hubbard: I want a detailed map of the Miami, Greater Miami area. That’s what I’ve been running into all night … I was just looking at it up here a few days, a day or two ago but… All right, regardless of all that, I was just verifying Miami Springs’ proximity to the airport. All right. Oh, you get the kind of setup this could be.

Dincalci: Now you wouldn’t be, you or Mary Sue wouldn’t be using your regular names then?

Hubbard: Well not necessarily. But you don’t have to tell anybody what our names are.

Dincalci: All right. I’m renting it.

Hubbard: Yeah.

Dincalci: OK.

Hubbard: You got a reference. What’s the matter?

Dincalci: Ah, if I’m still gonna be there it’s ah, well I just have to be known by another name, that’s all.

Hubbard: Not at the moment.

Dincalci: That’s fine.

Hubbard: It doesn’t matter. You can rent it under one of the names of the people that are coming.

Dincalci: One of those being Frank Morris or…

Hubbard: Something like that.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: See, that will cover your bets.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: You didn’t have any real trouble, you usually have the first, last month’s rent or deposit of some kind or another.

Dincalci: Yes, there is, there was one problem on that of the electric bill. I gave a, an address for it to go to but it never, it didn’t get there, I didn’t tell ‘em to…

Hubbard: Did you pay it?

Dincalci: It was never paid.

Hubbard: What did you do, did you ever get a check?

Dincalci: I never got it back. I never got the bill. We sent a letter then to the electric company but nothing…and told them to send it to this other address that we had. But there wasn’t anything that came from it.

Hubbard: Well that’s consolidated, that is, do you think maybe Brunell’s looking for you?

Dincalci: No, but they might have gotten on to him because it was his tenant even though we signed an agreement that we would pay it. And he wouldn’t have anything to do with it. It’s just a, it’s a piece I don’t know. I’m not sure of him, he’d say, yes, it would be OK or…

Hubbard: (Unclear) him in it.

Dincalci: Mmmm… I could even ask him if it would be OK as a reference.

Hubbard: No. You ask him did he ever get the electric bill. “We never got our electric bill, so I’m just calling you up asking how you are,” and so forth, “But nobody ever sent the electric bill.”

Dincalci: All right.

Hubbard: You didn’t send the electric bill. Nobody sent it to the address. Is there anything about it? If there is, why, send it on to…You’ll have to have some address with…

Dincalci: Right. Good.

Hubbard: I wouldn’t cross names. So I don’t know what address you got considered.

Dincalci: There is, I had, we had one address. And I think for Empire we have another box. I could have him send it to that.

Hubbard: Mmmm.

Dincalci: That would be, he would never correlate Empire with that. It’s a completely, it’s, there’s no way to trace…

Hubbard: Have we ever traded anything on that, Empire. We still have it.

Dincalci: We still have it.

Hubbard: Well, all right.

Dincalci: And we have this box the G.O. set it up later. And it’s there, for Empire.

Hubbard: All right, all right fine. What, pull ‘em up, you’d have to pull them up anyhow. He’ll probably say no, we never heard from him. See, but you probably won’t need any reference. I wouldn’t volunteer any reference. I’d pull him up anyhow.

Dincalci: Yeah.

Hubbard: So, all right. And ah, tell ‘em you’re just passing through and you’d thought you’d call him out. Down for a vacation. And, be OK if we use him as a reference. You know, he could do that. I wouldn’t give him any, any address before I asked him that.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: All right, so anyway, you know what kind of a setup is, is, would be needed. Well it’s actually what kind of a setup is there and available. Now four or five motel rooms, right up against the Neptune, no. So you have to locate where the Neptune is and then you have to go over a few blocks away from there but it’s right at the bottom of Daytona. It’s at the south end of Daytona across the bridge.

Dincalci: OK.

Hubbard: Now this puts me on a comm line because I got about six messengers I can trust. The little I.T.’s, no, well that’s, what…

Dincalci: You want it within, like bicycle distance or something like that? So they can…

Hubbard: Yeah, walking distance.

Dincalci: Walking distance.

Hubbard: Yeah, so that they can disappear out of the scene when, with traffic, reappear. Now that I say, it doesn’t look very secure. I think you will find it very secure. Now, I’ll have to look up my, order of spectacles or something of the sort. Ah hell, don’t think I’ll even bother with wearing them. The main thing I’ve got to work out is I’ve got to get them into some permanent quarters, you see, and I really don’t dare be, be far, very far off the lines. And ah, the ah, probably there’s, for sure should be a telephone. Except that of the manager. So this possibility that you can get a phone connected up…

Dincalci: Yes.

Hubbard: I’m not afraid of my own people. It’s just, um, you’re good. Put me in the firing line to have some subpoena server come up and hit me, something like that. We’ve got quite a few actions, well we got about three or four. One of the guys said he’d love to serve me, he’s a complete nut. So let’s make it difficult. So, there’ll be about seven in the party. As soon as you got it, you got your orders there. But you don’t, you just, you just say, got it. See, well this lets me fire…

Dincalci: Right, and then you would go to that.

Hubbard: And a day later, Mary Sue fires. So I would go to that, that motel.

Dincalci: The address of the place is there.

Hubbard: It will be there and your phone number.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: So as soon as I get there, why, I can give you a ring, see. And ah, so Mary Sue will come the next day after me because we don’t fly on the same planes. That’s the reason for that.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: And ah, then the rest of the party can come in there. Maybe we stop overnight at the Holiday Inn, catch another plane, while waiting for Mary Sue and then ah, go up. (To Commodore’s Messenger) You decided to run your message. And all people play back these tapes. I’m thinking that’s also hell of a live. Well, we’re getting somewhere now. Your two minor accounts in map form. There you are. There it is, boy. That’s it. That’s it, right there. (To Dincalci) Now, what you do, is you go in here and don’t take a ticket for Daytona.

Dincalci: No.

Hubbard: You just take a ticket for Miami. And when you get there you buy a ticket. I think go to Daytona.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: Right.

Dincalci: On other airlines.

Hubbard: Oh, it doesn’t matter. Ah, you won’t have any trouble with that. Piece of cake. Now, I think there is a Daytona here. Now, I think there is a map of it. Well, to tell you the truth. Miami, Saint Augustine, Orlando…

Dincalci: It must be part, part of that mission.

Hubbard: Well. (To a third person) No, no, no, no, no, no. You don’t need a pass. (To Dincalci). Ah, they’re all strung out. Daytona’s all strung out along the beach. Here’s Orlando, there’s Daytona, see. And it’s, it’s not in South Daytona. It’s in Daytona. It’s just across the bridge there, at the lower end.

Dincalci: Across the bridge.

Hubbard: Well, you spot where it is, see.

Dincalci: Yes, sir.

Hubbard: All right, and ah, get something fairly posh. Don’t get a dog place.

Dincalci: Like we had here.

Hubbard: No, well, no, no, no. I’m naturally critical of those places

Dincalci: The first one was really nice.

Hubbard: The first one, middle class, oh boy.

Dincalci: Posher than the first one then.

Hubbard: Well yeah, if you can make it. Mary Sue’s not well. Give her a decent environment.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: don’t know what they’ve got there. But they may have “condomiums.” And people frantically trying to rent condomiums. But they overbuilt the living daylights out of those things. They started in Daytona.

Dincalci: Aha.

Hubbard: I don’t care what you spend for this thing for a couple of months. See, I don’t give a damn at all. It’s out of my pay, not the company. This whole thing’s a personal mission. And ah, you give the first and last month’s rent. We don’t care what, too much personal business

Dincalci: Yeah.

Hubbard: It’s off season, for Daytona. Orlando has sorta started and ah, so on. But they really don’t start till the end of December that high up in Florida. And then they really think they’re gonna have a big season. Pay off all their mortgages and so forth. Um, not, this, this year. Ah, recreation travel has dropped 50 percent.

Dincalci: Oh?

Hubbard: That’s automotive, recreation travel. It’s dropped off. And ah, hotels going broke all over the place, being foreclosed. It’s an untidy scene. But ah, they’re being very unrealistic and blowing their concern on this. Guy was foreclosed yesterday yet business is going to go on as usual. And, uh, that, get the biggest door to door if you can, see. I don’t say you have to get three apartments. They’d probably be the easiest thing to get, vacation apartments, see. I don’t say you have to get that. You might be able to find a house, see, ah I don’t care. You might be able to find anything …… it’s what’s there.

Dincalci: Right, another motel.

Hubbard: Well they don’t have usually kitchenette facilities.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: Kitchen facilities.

Dincalci: Kitchen, yes.

Hubbard: Motels are not usually very posh.

Dincalci: That’s true, especially on the beach. People go there for a vacation.

Hubbard: We don’t want to be on the beach. Go inland if you can.

Dincalci: OK.

Hubbard: Go on the beach, you can. It doesn’t matter, make sure it’s well up the beach. Or down the beach.

Dincalci: All right, sure.

Hubbard: Now, that puts me on the communication lines, very tight. And ah, telex traffic has been set up for that base. For telex, G.O. telex’s can roar in there for Mary Sue, you see. And ah, a messenger can go for a walk on the beach. Piece of cake.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: Then, there will probably be a messenger on duty at the place. There’ll be I.T.’s and so forth on duty over at the other place. This is not the final, the final setup.

Dincalci: Yes.

Hubbard: But ah, the G.O.’s requested me not to go near the base. Ah, not to go in the base. Or be housed in the base. Ah, because they have some idea that IRS might suddenly get enthusiastic. Or something, whereas, there’s no sigh of this, and they wont. Because if they did they would just be showing the worst faith that anybody ever heard of. And we can hit ‘em and ride ‘em while they’re cowering. They’d love to hit us, but they won’t, they go on out. But it’s the subpoena thing Mary Sue said, she doesn’t want that. Because it causes trouble. Their lawyers have to go on. With getting subpoena withdrawn and all this sort of thing. So they asked me not to be too available in the first little while that I’m in the U.S. What we’re setting up from there is a, is a different setup. Which I hate to trouble you with. Before we get a permanent base, then I’ll know more about the other setup.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: You’ll see. But it’s a more complex setup, but communication lines are on. So with this ____ why, we will just be very careful with local security right now. Won’t say anything to anybody. That’s why I wrote those orders. So you can get your money and go. And ah, customs is not going to take a tape on you.

Dincalci: Yep.

Hubbard: Um well, I don’t know if you have anything to play a tape on.

Dincalci: I could ah, oh I would like to listen to it one more time and then…

Hubbard: All right.

Dincalci: Erase it, even.

Hubbard: Well, you can take it with you, who cares. It’s not in writing.

Dincalci: Right.

Hubbard: I don’t know what they would say with a TC-55 coming in.

Dincalci: Oh no, I don’t, I don’t know whether it was bought here.

Hubbard: Couple of these were bought in Las Palmas. And one was bought in New York as you recall.

Dincalci: Oh, that’s right, I can verify that.

Hubbard: I don’t know which one, but they’re all older than two years. That’s all customs ever worries about.

Dincalci: Oh really, I didn’t know that.

Hubbard: So, personal property.

Dincalci: I see this has a little..

Hubbard: Which way…

Dincalci: This little thing, this. That wasn’t on, originally. I bet ya that’s it right there.

Hubbard: I don’t know where the third one is.

Dincalci: Ah.

Hubbard: (talking to a third person) Faster(?), where’s the third TC-55. Nearly…with these Las Palmasons. I cant even guarantee they’re in their original cases.

Dincalci: This is number one here, that has a look of it.

Hubbard: Mmmm.

Dincalci: See that’s the case you said didn’t fit. Completely different case.

Hubbard: Well, anyway…

Dincalci: This is three.

Hubbard: Is this the one. I remember we, we bunged up one side of it. These have been in and out of their cases in LRH A.D.

Dincalci: Oh, I see, yes, could have been put in a different one even.

Hubbard: And they have, they have a battery operated cartridge. Which you can just buy those pen lights for. You don’t want one of these.

Dincalci: The rechargeable.

Hubbard: Rechargeable’s, you want the the pen light if you want to take one. I’ll see if I can’t settle it. This matter may not be of…All right, regardless of that you could listen to it again. And do as you wish. So, that is the extent of it. Are there any questions on this?

Dincalci: No, ah, lets see. I get the place, I go back down to Miami and put the … which is Palma. And leave the message with Kima.

Hubbard: Right.

Dincalci: I could, I was looking at a name. I want to keep it pretty legitimate. I could put it into Kima Douglas’s name. Or, because that’s not a, that’s not a, it’s a new, it’s a brand new name.

Hubbard: Yeah, that’s right, but ah, be on the same aircraft.

Dincalci: Oh, I see.

Hubbard: You could, but then it wouldn’t take maybe, wait for you to, you could say you were his secretary.

Dincalci: Mr. Harris’s?

Hubbard: No, Kima Douglas’s secretary. If you want to put it that way.

Dincalci: Yeah.

Hubbard: If you wish. Yeah, those, those are the new ones. Yeah, that’s the original. Do they have numbers on them?

Dincalci: Think so.

Hubbard: Mmmm.

Dincalci: Think so, inside by the battery, I think there’s a number….

 
The quality of the tape deteriorates after this point. We hope to get a transcript of the rest at a later date.

As for tonight’s vote, we can all follow along as the city council meeting is streamed live. We’ll see if we can embed the video here when it happens.

The meeting will be at 6 pm, and the parcel vote appears to be last on the meeting’s agenda.

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

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Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 746 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,251 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,495 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,604 days.

 
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  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    THANK YOU all Bunkers buddies for such nice comments. Brings tears to my German/Irish eyes.
    I wanted to get across that it wasn’t really about me, but to give a good example of the devious ways of the cult. Plus helps me heal better for my bad deeds.

    • April

      You did a great job speaking. Bravo!

    • Rasha

      Dee gets a huge hug ANY TIME!!!!

      • Taffy Sinclair

        luv her.

    • iampissed

      That is a wonderful statement…Your bad deeds were not yours.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Well, that’s only a half-truth, haha

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          What I mean is, I was a grown woman, naive of course and brain washed, but still responsible for at least half.

    • Observer

      You had a bunch of us crying

      • ReallyMGM

        raises hand

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        OMG, I was so surprised when people there were telling me how moved they were. Wow, is all I can say.
        They had some excellent, excellent speakers, that got good, (forbidden by mayor) applause.

        • iampissed

          They had forbidden food…well it is 420 day.

    • downtherabbithole

      To get in front of a room full of strangers and speak your truth was very power Dee. I am happy it heals you and give you some peace.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I just hope that it may help others to speak out. Thanks. I had only an idea of what I was going to say.

        • downtherabbithole

          To inspire others is something many of us in our lifetime may never realize. Be sure in the knowledge that you have inspired others. Some you may not even know such as myself.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Getting older, wiser and less afraid helps. A big Hug to you dear!

    • You are loved love.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Thanks bro. I had some loving help with me….. I asked and received.

    • WhiteCentauress

      My hero. 😍❣️

    • Missionary Kid

      You did something that was needed: exposed the deviousness of $cientology. You were speaking truth to deception. Yay, Dee.

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        Very needed and so well done.

    • Intergalactic Walrus
      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Zowwie!

    • Jimmy3

      I liked you more than Pizza Rant Lady. And I liked her a lot.

      • Sherbet

        Jimmy, we’ve formed a Pizza Rant Lady Fan Club, and we’d like you to be president.

        • Jimmy3

          What kind of coupon options do I get?

          • Sherbet

            Free Cheez Bread Snacks on Tuesdays. But they’re out of pizza. No pizza.

            • Jimmy3

              Tuesday is one of my No Carb Days. No deal.

            • Sherbet

              OK. How about the Dunedin Tax Lady Fan Club? Or the Bedrooms and Bathrooms on Cleveland Street Guy Fan Club?

              Never mind. I’m being really mean to the good citizens of Clearwater.

    • madame duran

      You didn’t have any notes to read from but you were equipped with a perspective that no other speaker had…that of an EX-Scientologist who regretted being a part of the cult but is now committed to exposing its crimes. And it’s all on public record!! May your words reach those still “in” who have doubts and give them hope that change is possible.

    • chukicita

      Dee that could not have been easy, but I bet it felt great. Love you, lady!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I was escorted to my car by an officer, nice! I gave out a big Wahoo when they voted and whaooed all the way home.

        • chukicita

          Police escort! I love the image of you wahooing all the way home!

          What you said about money and power…hit the nail,

        • Missionary Kid

          I’ll bet you get recognized all over now, with kudos from the locals. Just stay safe.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            I don’t go out much and am in a safe neighborhood, but are known by many. Thanks

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          A huge hug and thank you for what you have done Dee. You action reaches deep and wide It warms my heart and bolsters my optimistic faith in humankind.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Love you lady, too!

    • Sherbet

      You said one thing that’s very important: That all the church means is money, money, money.

    • I’m not always serious around here but when I am I mean it and you are a Rockstar. Seriously.

    • Ann B Watson

      Dee one of my heroes Always. 💛💛

    • outraged

      Thank you for your courage and honesty.
      It was wonderful and heart breaking to hear you cry.
      People need to know the truth. Bless you.

    • oknow

      A thousand up votes!

    • Rasha

      DEE DEH!!!

      …can I tackle hug you? If I can tackle hug you I will..

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Anytime love!

    • TexasBroad

      Giant bear hug Dee!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Thanks, one for you too love!

    • salin

      Your message was perfect – and to those voting – very personal. I imagine each of them wondering if someone has been sent to spy on them, wondering how far – beyond money would the Co$ go, if this drug on any longer. I think the nail was already in place – but perhaps being held by a shaking hand. You delivered the hammer – head on while missing the tentative hand holding it in place. As always, but particularly in this moment: You Are Awesome.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Thanks Salin, yes!

  • I was surprised that Co$ didn’t have a long line of “No” people.
    I think he knew his only chance was a backdoor deal.
    Is a lolsuit coming?

    • iampissed

      Waiting is.

      • Paul V. Tupointeau

        Upvote for SIASL reference :-)))

        • iampissed

          Dam your good….I’ve hung out with these folks, a lot more fun there then Scientology.

        • Taffy Sinclair

          What’s SIASL?

          • Robert Eckert

            ‘Stranger in a Strange Land’, classic sci-fi by Heinlein, a guy learns Martian ways and sets himself up as a guru

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Thanks!!!

          • Paul V. Tupointeau

            Heinlein’s book Stranger in a Strange Land.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Don’t come knocking if you ain’t grokking..”

    • Jimmy3

      He did send Travolta…

      • knock knock knocking on your sphincter

      • What’sup

        He spent the whole time on the oiliness table. No help at all.

        • Jimmy3

          That was part of their backdoor plan.

          • What’sup

            Assholes.

          • Missionary Kid

            Snickersnort.

      • Chee Chalker

        Just more proof that if you need anything done in Hollywood, you call the A Team –
        The Elfmans!

    • Taffy Sinclair

      backdoor, indeed.

    • PeaceMaker

      Indeed. As I’ve noted elsewhere, I’m surprised that Miscavige didn’t at least trot out a line of entheta-proof loyal OTs, as a show of force and numbers.

      Among other things, in politics, if you can’t show that you can get voters out, you’re not going to be considered a serious force.

      It occurs to me, it will be interesting to see if they organize something like a demonstration over this, just to show that they are still to be reckoned with. They would probably have bolster their numbers with staff from flag to avoid embarrassing themselves with poor turnout, though.

  • What a buoyant evening in the Bunker! The Tiny Tosspot thwarted by wogs! “But I waved millions at ’em!”
    I’m pleased to add that our HowdyCon tickets have been purchased and accommodations secured. All my favorites better be there. You know who you think you are.

    • iampissed

      “You know who you think you are” classic Bunker.

    • Tony Ortega

      Right on!

    • Taffy Sinclair

      I’m still trying!!! But I may be there!!!

  • A $10.75 million dollar “Fuck You!”

    • downtherabbithole

      Best comment of the evening

      • Nah – Dee’s comments are. But thanks.

    • Missionary Kid

      Fuck you, Davy, and the cult you rode in on.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Everyone who’d like to see Mike Rinder as the next mayor of Clearwater, raise your hand!

    https://twitter.com/MikeRinder/status/855214445601017856

    • iampissed

      Me…Me….Me

    • MarcabExpat

      Him or Mark Bunker! And put Dee on the City Council, please.

      • machiabelly

        Make it a triumvirate with Aaron!

        • MarcabExpat

          YES Aaron would be like the New Sheriff In Town!

    • Ann B Watson

      I raise my hand and my heart for Mike Rinder to be whatever he wants because he deserves all love and support for his work against the evils of the cult. Waves of Love Mike..💛💛💛💛

    • pluvo

      Mike Rinder’s article “Clearwater on the Brink” which is succinct, very telling and disclosing the real intentions of Miscavige and Scn in Clearwater was certainly also read by many. http://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-on-the-brink/

      Excerpt:

      You can be certain that if Miscavige and scientology wanted to be PART of the development of downtown, they would have all their buildings open and accessible — not protected by Security Guards, cameras, Private Investigators and frosted glass windows you cannot see in. Their buildings are forbidding and somewhat creepy and it makes all of downtown Clearwater dark and creepy. You cannot see ANY activities of scientology in Clearwater — except their isolated “PR office” designed to present props and stage dressing as “good works” in the lobby of the old Clearwater Bank building — about 500 sq ft. And the empty Potemkin Village storefronts along N. Ft Harrison. That is it. You cannot enter or see in the Super Power Building. The Ft Harrison. The Oak Cover. The Sandcastle. The old Lee Arnold building. The Coachman. The WestCoast Building. Or ANYWHERE else that is a scientology property.

      Scientology is a secret kingdom that wants no outsiders seeing what is happening. From scientology’s perspective, the less “wogs” (non-scientologists) there are in downtown Clearwater, the better. This
      “Redevelopment Plan” is heading in the direction of guaranteeing that. Scientology ONLY wants scientologists in downtown Clearwater. While Miscavige has plenty of money to buy everything within 5 miles of the Ft Harrison hotel — there are not enough scientologists within 50 miles to keep two restaurants busy, let alone an entire downtown retail district. In case nobody has noticed — most scientologists in downtown Clearwater stay INSIDE the scientology buildings. And the majority of them are scientology staff with no disposable income.

      And finally, why are these meetings being conducted without the citizens of Clearwater being able to participate in the fact-finding and decision making process of their city? The Tampa Bay Times recent editorial (Scientology should discuss Clearwater plans in public) made this point eloquently.</blockquote<

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Can you imagine, as mayor Rinder’s name would be on every city document. Every time they did anything with the city they’d be associating with an SP. The whole damn church would be PTS! Bwawawa!

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          They all are PTS and Hubbords the SP

          • Missionary Kid

            Thank you, Dee. I wish I could be there to provide security for you. I’m sure that you will have the people of Clearwater thanking you.

  • Supper Powers

    I just got back and see I missed Dee preach! Any video?

    • MarcabExpat

      It’s comin.’ Clearwater city server is mega-slow tonight.

      • iampissed

        I wonder why.

        • MarcabExpat

          Gee, I just can’t imagine.

  • Tomorrow, COB renames OSA back to the Guardian’s Office.

    • MarcabExpat

      Hahahahahaha.

      • I imagine him sort of like a Philly Scarface with Shermanspeak:

        “Talk about a disappointment. Or to put it another way, I tried to go legit and buy the property from them, but they decided contrawise. Now I’m left with only the option to take it to the limits of the law and beyond, the way LRH intended.”

        • MarcabExpat

          Somehow when I replayed that in my head, a healthy dose of Three Stooges found its way in.

        • chukicita

          Say hello to my little frie… oh maybe not

    • Ann B Watson

      Oh My RMmycroft, Your comment struck me as funny & probably true. COB does not brook insubordination of any type. But I get the feeling there is a pinprick in his skin and his supposed power is slowly draining away. Who knows those Come Back Ron mega mansions in the RTC compounds may be the last stand. This power is draining away each second from the empty Ideal Morgues all over the world, it has already drained the $Winds down to zero and Aftermath2 is coming. I spent so many years terrified of the GO in and out of the cult. But guess what, after last night GO stands for Go F##K Yourself World Wide. The layers of Lies about expansion,Disconnection Fair Gaming, KSW, and the deaths of so many talented golden spirits who were caught in the cult’s web and could not get free, all the pain and suffering the cult has now caused is coming into the Light. Like flowers buried in a garbage dump pushing through the muck to shine with the sun,we will never stop the Truth from shining through. 💛

  • Filmmaker Lexi Alexander is NOT happy with the person who gave her address to the Church of Scientology Celebrity Centre.

    https://twitter.com/Lexialex/status/855237830796128256

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I think that they have been reduced to buying contact lists and randomly contacting people. Too many people who have never even been near a CO$ are getting phone calls, email & snail mail from them. The end is near, my friends.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • iampissed

    Tony please put up Dees speech tomorrow.
    ETA: or sometime soon…I know it’s been a long day. Ya done good.

  • nottrue
    • WhiteCentauress

      LOL I love that she’s wearing red.

  • dchoiceisalwaysrs

    about a couple of things in the tape

    Hubbard…” …Now, a certain number of crew, particularly aliens and so on, are being put over here on the beach. Not here, and ah, we’ve got the place. It’s all in hand and that’s a staging area and they’re going to be moved from there to a permanent base which we don’t have….”

    Smuggling aliens….of course it is hubbard style…still happening I bet..

    Hubbard again ” You decided to run your message. And all people play back these tapes. ..”
    That is why he had the tapes made…

  • A True Prince
    • WhiteCentauress

      I was thinking of an oldie, too….🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶”Who’s Sorry Now?”🎶🎶🎶🎶

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Yep, with all that celebrity, money throwing, slimy meetings,. Right!

  • chukicita

    That DM didn’t bother to show – or even send a nonclandestine representative to this public meeting only underscores his disdain for the community that he calls “wogs.”

    He probably dropped a ton on fancy presentation materials, and the celebrity baskathon and a new tie to wear for each council member he met with individually.

    Stats are down, Dave. Who ya gonna blame now?

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      There was one guy from the left that read from his computer so fast, I didn’t understand a word. Oh the war room is working tonight and all are on rice and beans, eh?

      • WhiteCentauress

        Bet Davy is still eating fine. 😡

        • Susan black

          But his gut is probably churning, heh heh.

          • WhiteCentauress

            I’m SO hoping he won’t enjoy his specially prepared, flown-in-fresh dinner.

        • Taffy Sinclair

          2 meals per meal 😉

      • Jimmy3

        And opening the windows in the war room would be a sign of weakness.

    • Jimmy3

      Statisticians. They’re no better than psychiatrists. Always trying to control reality with numbers and graphs and charts. A scourge on all 8 trillion of us humans.

  • chukicita

    I like to think that somewhere, Gabe Cazares and Bob Minton are enjoying a cigar.

    I hear their laughter in the wind.

    • TexasBroad

      🙂

  • KimP

    A great ending to an otherwise awful day. So glad I came by here to hear to read the comments. I will take what I can get on 4/20

  • Rasha

    Tell me to go to bed.

    • iampissed

      GO TO BED!

      • Rasha

        * ….hovers to bed…… *

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Me too! Oh, must wait for the local news first.

      Then take two pills instead of one.

      • Rasha

        Hear you, Love, but get a good night’s rest…. ^_^

    • Jimmy3

      Go to bed. Thank you.
      Get up from bed. Thank you.
      Go to bed. Thank you.
      Jump on bed…

      • Rasha

        ….don’t make me post another Perfume video.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Tell the ashtray to go to bed. Now, thank it. Thank it w/ all your cause!!!

      • Rasha

        Yes. Yes you do. I am out of my league.

        Still…. whoa.

        • Rasha

          thanks for the music vid earlier, though… awesome…..

          • Rasha

            you guys…. check it out….

      • iampissed

        DAM
        Looks around…well she’s not a redhead.
        ETA: Or is she.

        • Rasha

          Yeah, I’m just gonna….

          …’night, kids….

          • iampissed

            I’m not talking to you….go to bed.

            • Rasha

              -_^

      • Rasha

        Fine. I’m outta here…:P
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfYis6VuXY

        • It’s like Japanese Techno remix of ABBA.

          • Rasha

            Ah luv mah Perfume. And Apocalyptica. And Rush. And….. oh, everything! Rasha needs sleeps!!!

          • Jimmy3

            It’s like a Saiya-jin’s fever dream.

            • Speak English already

            • Jimmy3

              Abba salutely knot.

      • WhiteCentauress

        I see you are an art lover. 😉

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Oh my xenu, she looks like me before I went blonde!!!!!

        • sizzle8

          Maybe Observer can photoshop you in.

          • Taffy Sinclair

            That would be sweeter than Christ on a cracker!! But I’m not shy my real pics are on here. I would be honoured to be shooped by Obs 🙂

  • madame duran
    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Well, they didn’t show why I was very sorry to the citizens of CW, they did get a few words in about the scios being pushing, but not the greed, money and power I said. Whatever it was OK, but lacking.

      Oh, just read it and they put in more than showed on TV.

      • madame duran

        The “why” part was covered in your statement to council which is really the part that mattered. The news article did mention in one sentence that Scientology was about power and greed. All the main points got covered. Perhaps Tracey McManus from the Tampa Bay Times would interview you so that you could speak at length? A pipe dream (hey, it’s 4/20 after all!) but I’d like to see it happen, if possible.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Yes, thanks madame

  • Watching that council-meeting gave me a strong sense that Scientology has finally lost the initiative in Clearwater—here were ordinary citizens exercising their democratic rights in public, and in the end there was absolutely nothing Miscavige could do about it.

    I’m sure he’s already in conference with his coven of overpaid shysters, cooking up some legal caltrops to throw in the path of the land deal, but I’m guessing there’s no real chance of going back to the era of dirty tricks and backroom deals for Shortarse.

    • PeaceMaker

      I think this is a sign that Scientology is losing the initiative – period. Among other things, they no longer have large numbers of energetic public members they can call upon to support their efforts, though it will be interesting to see if they try to mount any sort of protest.

      And I think anything they try through legal channels or under the table, will end up backfiring on them when the public finds out about it. Or when law enforcement gets wind of it. I’m not sure that they will be able to resist following SOP and trying some of the sort of investigations and harassment that they did in previous eras in Clearwater, now targets will be watching for it and may respond more aggressively.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I had a scio sitting next to me and we had little talk. I motioned her to get up to speak and she left after mine. I could feel the coldness, as she realizes she’s next to an SP.

        • WhiteCentauress

          Hopefully she could feel your warmth, your fire, your inner glow…🤗 Thaw out her cold heart.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Hopefully, I was nice to her. Asked if she was OSA, said no. Said I used to be. Probably scared her, hope not.
            Anyway, didn’t stick around after my comments.

    • If people care to use the democratic systems in place what can they do? Order a ‘security guard’ on a bike to ride into the meeting and video everybody. There’s nothing in Scientology about coping with this kind of situation, because it depends on ignoring the wider world in order to insure that members don’t realise that Scientology does’nt work (as it didn’t work in this case).

      If they can’t win in Clearwater, of all places, after throwing everything they had at it, times have changed.

      What’s required now is for official agencies to realise this and start to behave like the people of Clearwater. Properly inspecting Narconon facilities would be a start. Asking the IRS to wake up is probably still a bit of a stretch… but the time when they can take action without being attacked by vexatious litigation is getting closer…

  • GrangerFX

    ‘In denying the church the land it wanted, the council “apparently believes (Scientologists) are not deserving of a swimming pool and other amenities for their children,” Shaw wrote.’
    They don’t get their baby milk factory either.

    • madame duran

      Wait…Shaw is able to talk after the beatings? Surely he lost most of his teeth by now.

    • madame duran

      Where is that quote from? The cult still feels it deserves the land and is focused only its use for Scientologists. Clueless. As if Clearwater residents should cry because the Kool-Aid gang lost a swimming pool.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/live-clearwater-city-council-set-to-vote-on-land-coveted-by-the-church-of/2321083

        Cripes! The CO$ really does think the rest of the world is stupid! SMH

        Shaw [CO$ spokesman] blasted the city as “arrogant” for wanting to keep the aquarium land out of the church’s hands, calling it “manifest obstruction” and a statement by City Hall that Scientologists are second-class citizens…

        …”Whose votes do not count? Whose money does not count?” Shaw asked. “The bigotry against Scientologists is barefaced.”

        In denying the church the land it wanted, the council “apparently believes (Scientologists) are not deserving of a swimming pool and other amenities for their children,” Shaw wrote.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          I think he’s lost it, more than just the land. he may be on his way to Hemit.
          I hope I threw him for a loop as he was the head man of my mission for last two years and retired me. Also got me back in to view the smoke and mirrors. haha. Good on you Ben with a deserved a vacation!

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            He’s probably already there! :O

          • He’s weathered worse.

            Category:Ben Shaw

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Yes, the Lisa trial was the worst for him, he said.

        • mandymarie20

          Barefaced bigotry? I think this is a bit more of a ‘barefaced’ threat than anyone fighting the takeover of Clearwater https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b28a14a794e762731ecfb9443d99ef591b33ae2bed59a55403251f8da4ee7775.jpg

        • “[..] and other amenities for their children,” Shaw wrote.

          Category:Cadet Org

          • WhiteCentauress

            Their hypocrisy runneth over.

        • Helen Van Patterson Patton
          • Todd Tomorrow

            Was an elated long day and this just made my stomach fill up with acid.

            • Helen Van Patterson Patton

              Sobering reminder, eh? Well, don’t be too dismayed –The unanimous vote is something to celebrate!

        • scottmercer

          Their votes DON’T count. I’m sure they don’t get time scraping paint chips to do something as woggy as voting. Plus, 50% of them can’t vote because they’re from Ukraine, Venezuela, Taiwan, etc. etc. etc.

        • Sine qua non

          Yawn Yawn Yawn. The world is onto your evil schemes, COS. You are a destructive, abusive scam and everyone knows it,.

        • madame duran

          Why is this dum-dum mad at the city? Doesn’t he know that it was the AQUARIUM (i.e. the seller) that offered the land to the city for a set price and the city simply agreed to take it?

          A criminal organization that works outside of public consultation and tries to bribe city officials should be the last to comment on “manifest obstruction”.

          Side questions:
          Why is Ben Shaw still around to give official statements and why does he still have all his teeth? Inquiring minds want to know.

      • WhiteCentauress

        Oops…🙊

      • GrangerFX

        Sorry I figured everyone had read the news stories you linked down thread.

    • mandymarie20

      What church has a pool? If a Christian Church was buying land for a pool, people would think they were hypocrites and not really a religion, perhaps like a certain ‘church’ we might know? Churches usually are buying buildings for education, charity, outreach and worship – not skinny dipping with Mini Miscaviage

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Several local Christian churches have pools that they use for baptisms. They look like this and I’ve got a hunch that they cost ’em a whole lot less than 15 million dollars!
        (refresh)

        http://theadvocatechurch.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/Bryson-Baptism-4.jpg

        • mandymarie20

          We don’t do full baptisms like that in my area, so I completely flaked on that. Thanks for the reminder. I’m pretty sure that’s not a 15 million dollar pool, and if it is, I’d ask for my money back.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Yeah, my church just has a font, but on a hot day, this type of baptism could be popular 🙂

            • mandymarie20
            • Intergalactic Walrus

              That looks very ecclesiastical. Jesus didn’t turn water into kool-aid, did he! 🙂

            • WhiteCentauress

              That is sooooooo redneck. Believe me, I know. 😜

              Edited to say, “The fountain, not you.”

            • mandymarie20

              While I have not attempted the Redneck Fountain, some might consider me a partial redneck. But I wouldn’t wreck a perfectly good soaking kiddie pool by altering it. You can’t fix it once you’ve put a hole in it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6trGocstHI

            • WhiteCentauress

              That was actually very cute. 😉👍

            • mandymarie20

              I imagine Jesus can diversify, but as long as he keeps the wine coming, I’m happy

            • abdaman

              He turned it into odoul’s

            • Missionary Kid

              If you believe that, you’re a part of the descendants of the Women’s Christian Temperance Union, usually a Baptist, or of that ilk. 😛

      • Missionary Kid

        In the church I grew up in, they had a baptismal pool that was at the very front of the church, usually covered by some doors. In front of that, the choir usually sat, and in front of that, the stage that had the pulpit on it. They only filled it for special occasions.

    • PeaceMaker

      Waah. What a lame, shameless attempt to pull heartstrings and play the victim.

      And if Scientology really thought that their children deserved to get to use swimming pools and other amenities, they would leave them time to be children. Reports are that the recreation facilities at their existing hotels go mostly unused, because Scientology leaves the parents no time to waste on “thetans in little bodies,” or for “dilettante” pursuits like swimming and playing when even children could be “on course” and earning “certs.” And of course when it comes to the children of the staff and Sea Org who work at those flag facilities…the stories about their childhood deprivations, make one shudder.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        You got that right. More BS PR.

        • PeaceMaker

          And, typical Scientology acting out Hubbard’s (plagiarized from Freud and psychiatry) precept that criminals accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of. If Shaw has children of his own, he certainly should be feeling guilty about how little time he gets to enjoy with them and how joyless their lives are; and if not, he ought have pangs of guilt about the situations of the children of fellow staff members.

          • Missionary Kid

            Projection, thy name is LRH and DM.

    • Now where are they going to drown dogs?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Don’t tell Shaw but….
      I’ve also heard that the Clearwater council uses a P-Touch!

    • Supper Powers

      But, what about the children?!?

      Oldest pathetic plea in the book.

      • mandymarie20
        • WhiteCentauress

          I’m hearing that in Nancy Cartwright’s voice. 😝

      • madame duran

        Specifically, it was only the SCIENTOLOGY children.

        The city council made a significant decision to benefit ALL children of Clearwater (and the adults too!).

        ETA:
        In a roundabout way, the city may have prevented the untimely death of Scientology kids drowning in said pool from lack of adult supervision. I’M BEING SERIOUS!!!

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Shaw needs to toughen up….13 years old kids/Sea Org kids don’t need a swimming pool. Their stats are down and that is why this all happened. Mr Shaw, when you speak you need to use the R of the public… it is that you are spinning bullshit ..

    • GrangerFX
  • Ivan Mapother

    Thank you Clearwater for finally pissing in Scientology’s pool.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      And contrary to urban legend, it did not turn red!

    • Supper Powers

      I’m sorry, you’ve been misinformed. The church has been denied a pool for their children.

      • abdaman

        But not the crap!

    • mandymarie20

      Pretty sure they pulled a Caddyshack, too.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxiXGr9nFM

      • PeaceMaker

        “It’s not big deal.” That was hilarious!
        Sadly, my next thought is that because of Miscavige’s mess, staffers somewhere are being berated, screamed at, perhaps hit and otherwise abused, and facing two or three days without sleep as they deal with the “flap.” And, perhaps even worse….

        • mandymarie20

          That’s the problem where all of this is concerned. Knowing DM was thwarted is so satisfying, yet you know that someone, or more than one someone, is probably being punished. I don’t know if bittersweet is the right word, but it’s definitely a mixed bag. I hope too many people don’t have to suffer too long because of this.

  • Supper Powers

    Was Mark Bunker on the scene?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      No. Tony said Bunker had to work.

      • Supper Powers

        That seems rather sad.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Didn’t see him, but he may be with Rinder in CA or wherever they are.

      • Supper Powers

        I missed your live preaching and can’t wait to see the video. Sounds like you really had a cathartic moment and told Miscavige & Co where to stick it. Good on ya, darlin.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Tony said Mark had to work so couldn’t make it

      • Todd Tomorrow

        On the film?

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          I hope but no idea

    • Liberated

      No, he had to work.

  • iampissed

    Night all…unlike Rasha…I’m out …high five!

    • Taffy Sinclair

      much love, pissed, Iam

  • Cedilla

    Elizabeth Moss on Colbert now at 12:07.
    Interesting.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Kate’s Mum?

    • abdaman

      Anything interesting happen?

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    9 more comments and it will be 2222.

    • iampissed

      Do we close then?

    • iampissed

      Ya done good….

    • Missionary Kid

      Dee, you are on the Channel 8 news. It’s abbreviated, but they got the interview with you outside on the video. http://wfla.com/2017/04/20/clearwater-votes-to-buy-lot-coveted-by-church-of-scientology/

      • Missionary Kid
        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Yes, saw it at home, thanks. Hey, you saw it, wow.

          • Missionary Kid

            I’ve posted it so everyone could see it. (The corrected version). Now everyone in the Bunker can see your lovely visage.

            This has to be the biggest “Fuck you, COB” that the city council could have given.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Yes, it as. Good on them.

    • Missionary Kid

      I posted the wrong spot for Channel 8. Here’s the correct one. http://wfla.com/2017/04/20/clearwater-votes-to-buy-lot-coveted-by-church-of-scientology/

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Got it and thanks so much. You guys/gals are just so fast and Super.

    • Chee Chalker

      Hi Dee! Caught your segment….🍾👍. You looked and sounded great!
      If I may ask…..why did you feel the need to apologize to Clearwater?

      • Missionary Kid

        Because she was a part of the deception that brought $cientology into Clearwater in the first place. We all forgive her.

        • Chee Chalker

          Oh I see
          Of course she is forgiven!
          She’s more than simply sorry….she is actively making amends by speaking out against the crimes of Co$

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Got that right Chee and MK. My goal and purpose for rest of my years, since finding out the real evil, also realizing that I was safe to speak out, been at it supporting all those that do since finding the Bunker.

            Time for me to sleep haha

            Oh and thank you very much for forgiving. Now maybe I can forgive myself.

            • madame duran

              Forgiving oneself is sometimes the hardest thing to do. Just remember though…you can enjoy the healing gift of forgiveness only if you are open to receive it.

              You realized the damage caused and you’re sincerely trying to correct it now. Your efforts are acknowledged and you deserve a second chance. Dispel any negative thoughts, guilt or shame…do yourself a favour and make the choice to accept this free gift. Hugs to you again!! 🙂

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              I did try to find some I hurt and found a few. Thanks for the free gift.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Good question Chee. Too deep for this time of night and some wine. To wrap it up…. I ratted on so many of the citizens, their supposedly enemies of the organization, which helped them get stronger in the city.

        • Chee Chalker

          Enjoy your wine! Well deserved!
          Get some rest. You’re on the side of the Bunkerians (angels) now

    • Todd Tomorrow

      We love you Dee!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        And I love y’all too! I don’t know what I’d have done without the Bunker and Tony’s Village Voice.

  • TexasBroad

    11:03pm my time and I just got home from work – insanely crazy day that kept me away from here (and from food mostly…I’m starving!) Council meeting crept into my thoughts all day but I couldn’t check— the only thing I know from scrolling the first ten comments now is the result !!!!–YAY -Congratulations, Clearwater. I can’t wait to scroll and read the rest!

    • iampissed

      It’s my last post for tonight….unanimous!

      • TexasBroad

        Squeeee!

      • Missionary Kid

        Hope you’re not pissed at the result. 😛

        Happy dance to follow.

  • Missionary Kid

    Channel 8 report on the Clearwater City Council vote. http://wfla.com/2017/04/20/clearwater-votes-to-buy-lot-coveted-by-church-of-scientology/
    Only a small part of Dee’s comment at the podium, but a short interview outside is included.

    • Missionary Kid
      • WhiteCentauress

        QUOTE: But, Joe Corvino, who is not a Scientologist, feels the city made a mistake. If the Clearwater Marine Aquarium could get $15 million for the property rather than under $5 million, doesn’t it make more sense for the aquarium to go with the better offer?
        “We’re making an emotional decision on something that could be very…Just strictly financial,” said Corvino. “Everyone can win in this discussion.”

        So, is this “not a Scientologist” a Scientologist?

        • WhiteCentauress

          His Twitter is locked. 🤔

          • Taffy Sinclair

            He is suspect.

        • Not a Scientologist Butt

          They forgot the “but”

        • Andrew Robertson

          Look on the bright side Joe (who’s not a Scientologist). The Church has saved 15 million dollars of their parishioners money which they can now spend on their many humanitarian projects!

          Andrew (not a Scientologist too!)

        • Juicer77

          He brings up a valid point that many citizens have probably wondered about. I was not aware the Aquarium gets so much grant money every year. From a strictly business viewpoint, that $15 mil could have done a lot to improve the Aquarium’s facilities.

          What Mr. Corvino refuses to see is that business decisions are never purely for business reasons. When considering a big purchase/offer like this there are monetary, community and social ramifications that will affect how that business is seen by the public ever after. Take the money and run is convenient and easy, but it’s not necessarily smart business practice for long-term success. I’m sure John P. Capitalist will weigh in at some point. Looking forward to his take on this.

          • Graham

            If the City had declined to buy the land in order to leave the way free for the Aquarium to accept Slappy Dave’s £15 mill offer, what are the chances the fake-church leader would then have reneged on the deal and offered a much lower amount?

            • Juicer77

              110% Or pulled out of the offer altogether.

        • madame duran

          Disagree with Joe Corvino’s “everyone can win” statement. The non-Scientologist residents of Clearwater weren’t a consideration in Scientology’s plan (not even a vague promise of a trickle down economic effect was given). The only stated beneficiaries were the Aquarium, downtown businesses and Scientologists. How is it recklessly “emotional” for the people to get angry over being left out of a major decision like that? Avoiding public consultation leading up to council’s final decision and not bothering to show up for the meeting to defend its position just underlined how much the Scientology cult wasn’t interested in honest engagement with the public. The public had every right to be infuriated with Scientology’s efforts to shortchange them for the cult’s own selfish purpose.

          The Clearwater city council did the right thing by representing the majority who were being ignored in the process. Not everything of value comes with a monetary price tag. The end goal of the “Imagine Clearwater” project goes beyond financial matters. It’s about realizing a VISION and putting PEOPLE first. I believe the Aquarium will do well in funding itself, especially since it has supported the community at this vital juncture for the city’s future development. I think this moment should be part of their fundraising campaigns–a theme of mutual support (“We stood up for Clearwater; now Clearwater, please return the favour”). Yeah, continue to build healthy coalitions while the anti-social cult retreats into itself. Things are looking hopeful again for Clearwater…and I love it.

    • scottmercer

      I enjoyed the pre-video advert: “Hello, I’m Dr. Frank, author of What’s Wrong With My Thyroid.”

      • Missionary Kid

        I’m wondering if that Chiropractor isn’t a clam.

        • Taffy Sinclair

          Thyroid problems treated by a clam Chiropractor? Are there no clam-baked endocrinologists???

          • Missionary Kid

            Oh, but chiropractors can cure everything, just like auditing and going up the bridge can.

            I see a lot of dead people.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Don’t forget the introspection rundown!! Cures everything under the sun with death! Not making light, just hate these sick fucks.

            • Missionary Kid

              I told the story, IIRC, yesterday, of watching my chiro cousin tell his grandson it was time for his adjustment, and the terror that the kid showed. I knew I couldn’t interfere. I could tell that the kid loved his grandfather, but was terrified of his treatment.

              I have no remorse over the fact that my cousin died a couple of years later of a disease that he claimed was cured by a chiropractor when he was a young man, decades before. That’s what got him into the scam.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Wow!

            • Missionary Kid

              To me, it was state sanctioned child abuse.

            • Intergalactic Walrus
            • Todd Tomorrow

              They forgot, bitch.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I always thought they were complete quacks until one day I had an adjustment (cracked my neck) and I heard out of my left ear for the first time in 14 months. When I was a child I had a bad case of swimmers ear that scared my ear drum causing a flap of tissue to grow over it. I had two micro surgeries, one on both ears but eventually it would just grow back. My buddy the chiropractor fixed it. People don’t know how miserable ear problems are. You not only are vertigo and nauseated a great deal but you are always are turning your head to hear people. My friend has been solicited over the years by the sneaky $cions to join practices taken over by WISE etc..Has some great stories. The only real thing that has never done a god damn thing is acupuncture. I went three times a week for years and it never worked. I lived near one of their prestigious teaching schools in the U.S. So I had a supervisor and three students working on me at the same time. Felt like a human pin cushion. Twice they left needles in my head.

            • Missionary Kid

              I don’t have much trouble with adjustments for possible nerve damage, but the opposite can be true, too. There are a lot of reports of people with permanent damage from chiropractors. To treat someone for what is a chemical problem is, IMO, pure fakery.

              My cousin, IIRC, had a liver problem. That’s definitely chemical. I don’t know what condition his grandson had, but the treatment was obviously painful.

              I also know that there are different schools of chiropractic. Some advocate what I call high force manipulation and others don’t use methods that are so violent.

              You’ll be interested to know that the practice of acupuncture in China was advanced by Chairman Mao because the Communists didn’t have enough medicine for the “barefoot doctors”, so they relied on acupuncture, which had been around for centuries and used it with the medics.

              My mom was an RN in mainland China for nearly 15 years in remote provinces before the communists took over. I asked her if she’d heard of acupuncture when she was being a nurse and midwife. She said, “Never heard of it.” My conclusion is that it must have been a big city thing before Chairman Mao had it spread.

              I believe that it works for some people, and a lot of it is, in essence hypnosis. I have used acupressure on myself to relieve pain, and it works for me.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I would get bad leg cramps in wrestling and acupressure was the only thing that worked.

            • Missionary Kid

              I used to get cramps when I was working in the sun here in the desert even though I was drinking a lot of water, but I found that drinking Gatorade actually helped. What I’ve found is better is Pediolyte, or, what is cheaper, the stuff that Costco sells.

              I would get trigger finger and cramps at night. By taking Pediolyte at the right time, I’ve eliminated them.

    • Cedilla

      Dee at 1:23.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      So, I’m guessing that this is one of the 10 commandments that LRH did not steal for his ‘Ways to Happiness’ pamphlet. That’s too bad because it could have saved them a lot of embarrassment.
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      • Missionary Kid

        Thanks for posting that here. I shoulda done it.

    • Newiga

      Dee <3

  • Robert Ramsay
  • Chee Chalker

    Ich bin ein Clearwaterian!

    • Liberated

      Lol

  • TexasBroad

    Heart swell and happy dance.
    Dee, I remember the day when you first posted your real name at VV (so long ago that I don’t remember what you posted under before that — what was it?) and then so many did after. You’ve always been on my “I hope I get to hug” list, but now I may just have to get in my car to make it so!
    There are days that belong to the Ex’es solely… my congratulations and respect to all.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Wow, you do go back a ways. I believe DeElizabethan was what I used. When I put out my real name it’s there also. Probably can remove it now. I did it when someone else did and felt real good.
      Were you TexasBraod then, can’t remember.
      Thank you so much.

      • TexasBroad

        I found VV in 2011 (??) and read every post and comment every night (that used to be easier) but didn’t delurk until the TUML book tour in 2015.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          I got on in early 2012 right after Debbie Cook’s email came out which showed me the Way.

  • Good ol’ Jim Din. After leaving Scn he began work with forgiveness and has gotten a psychology degree, written books and done a tremendous amount of good for people and the world.

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    Signing off and getting some sleep. Big Hug to all.

    • Newiga

      Big hug to you. You are a star. 🙂

    • OOkpik

      Right back atcha. <3

  • Baby

    Teenage Grandkids in bed.. scooting in for one second..
    One of the stars of the evening.. Reverend Dee.. Thank you Dee.. You are so respected and loved. Great Job..

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    • Newiga

      Have fun with your grand kids. They are so lucky to have a grandma like you, Baby! 🙂 xoxox

      • Baby

        Awwwww Weigie thank you.. xoxoxo

    • ExCult.Jan

      Your smile lights up the whole Bunker, Dee!

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • John Prince

    Hip-Hip HOORAY for the commonwealth of Clearwater, Fla. 💪✊👏👏👏👏👊…
    who’s afraid of the Big, Bad Wolf?..why should CW care if 5 % of it’s Population threatens to boycott City Functions ? Nobody wants to see those creepy weirdos in their goofy fake-naval / waiter costumes around the Vicinity anyway! The vote to begin reclaiming Downtown Clearwater is clear Signal that Those Superwogs mean Business..not scio-buisness 😎
    FUCK YOU captain pissypants ..If only your best-bitch tom “i-do-my-own-stunts” crooz could have come to your rescue. .then you wouldn’t have to piss & moan and appeal when you shoot yourself in the foot

  • Bavarian Rage

    May Clearwater councillors and aquarium management sleep soundly tonight, knowing some things, like integrity, can’t be bought…at any price. Today some folks other than Scientologists really “Stood Tall”.

  • Missionary Kid

    Elisabeth Moss was on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. She was pleasant enough, and promoted The Handmaiden’s Tale. The parallels to Trump are scary.

    • ReallyMGM

      I read the book ages ago, years before the first movie was made and botched. I am sure this one won’t be worth a damn either. It is one of the best books I have read from a writing/literature point of view, not just popular fiction. I was underlining sentences as I read. Imagine a poetic dystopian novel! I can not see how it can ever be replicated in a film though.

      • Philbyification

        The Best Books Never can be in my experience. “Ages ago” lol yep….It made an impression One never Forgets.

        • ReallyMGM

          It is like trying to make a Faulkner novel into a movie. I don’t think a single one has been done successfully. (James Franco keeps trying with laughable results.) Some great literature just can’t make the transition and shouldn’t. And what is wrong with reading anyhow?

          • Philbyification

            Nothing at All! I am a Out and Proud Bibliophile. I’m a member of BAMBLA lol I wanna hold, touch, smell and feel them, then devour them….lol Exquisite.

  • Graham

    How would you feel if you’d commanded Kirstie Alley and Jorm Travolta to come and overawe the local citizenry, summoned individual council members to your lair, tried to make local traders feel special by inviting them to a closed meeting, offer to pay triple the going rate for the land and still end up snubbed? What a massive public humiliation.

    Will ‘bad loser’ Slappy Dave now try taking the Aquarium to court because they failed in their duty as a non-profit to get the best price? Or will even he be aware of the irony of trying to do that using his own ‘non-profit’ tax free dollars?

    • Vault Digger

      I think the Scilon Celebs need to get back on course and locate their withholds and overts, either that or the Tech doesn’t work.

    • Juicer77

      IMHO he’s just thinking he wasted his precious, precious time on a bunch of wogs who aren’t worth it. I’m sure there will be backlash from the Co$. No doubt he’s lined up Blinky and her minions to file suit after suit and throw wrenches in the Imagine Clearwater redevelopment project.

      • Philbyification

        Winkin Blinkin and CLODfoot, with a shot-up, Easter Ham dragging behind each on a line, lookin like a tattered rag after all that Running in Circles!$ ( if that LRH recording was anything to judge by…) Splains alot Ricky..(chortles and smirks)

    • Supper Powers

      Thy got fair market value.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Q: Who is a big dick with a minuscule dick and is alternating between foaming at the mouth rage and crying into his plonk right about now?
    A: A petty little bitch who for once did not get his own way today. 🙂

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. Big news from Clearwater, FL last night.
    But remember this is a small battle in a very big conflict.
    All we can do is keep bringing the facts to people in a spirit of kindness.
    Extra shots of espresso this morning since we were all up late watching a City Council meeting.
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    • Ann B Watson

      Lovely Post Juicer77, Thank you. 💛

  • OOkpik

    What a fun day in the Bunker with the “secret” tape of LRH’s scheme to invade Clearwater, Clearwater growing some, Reverend Dee showing some, Michael Tilse celebrating 14 years of Scientologylessness (ha!), and so much more. Love you, Bunker.

    Totally off topic:
    Meanwhile, things became tense at the Washington DC eagles’ nest when one of the eaglets got it’s leg wedged securely between some heavy branches and would have been doomed without timely intervention. It was rescued and taken for vet care for a few days.

    Mama eagle stayed with it right up to the point when a floodlight came on and one of the rescuers was about to crest the edge of the nest. Then…the video feed went dead!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/779ca8b8e2932f796ad1d8fc7767b4d26f8b328d9cd6a78234818b0489f7b0f1.png Updates on nestcam site:

    Live Feed Temporarily Unavailable
    April 20, 8:30PM EST – We are trying to assist one of our eaglets, which was just rescued after having some problems. It is now being checked out. We hope that everything goes well and that we can provide live nestcam feed soon.

    → Live Feed Temporarily Unavailable ←
    Late this afternoon (April 20) DC 4’s leg became lodged in a Y-shaped stick on the edge of the nest. The eaglet was unable to free itself, so the American Eagle Foundation, in cooperation with the US Fish and Wildlife Service, arranged for the eaglet to be rescued. Initial examination of the eaglet on the ground by a USFWS eagle expert found that the leg did not appear to be seriously injured. However, the eaglet will be taken to a veterinarian tomorrow where a radiograph of the leg will be taken to absolutely confirm that the leg is generally OK. Hopefully, the eaglet will be returned to the nest to rejoin its sibling and parents in a few days.

    Eta: Rescued! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2017/04/21/a-baby-bald-eagle-hurt-itself-so-climbe

  • I am knackered.

    • Newiga

      *pours a fresh cup of coffee*

    • I’ll alert the media.

  • Philbyification

    Congrats to CW for “blowin it on”!! lol

  • John Prince

    What? ..no Party -Post after last night’s Big Win in Clearwater? 😎
    You Cats were up Late last night, admit it !