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DREAM LAWSUIT: ‘God of Pop’ Kuba Ka vs the Church of Scientology. THANK XENU, IT’S ON!

 
Later today, we will be Skyping with God.

Well, that’s the plan, anyway. We’ve been having a devil of a time making progress since Tuesday, when the “God of Pop,” Kuba Ka, announced on Twitter that he was “officially leaving the Church of Scientology,” and we first heard from Kuba’s cousin and office manager, Patrick Stepniak, who emailed us and indicated an interest in the Underground Bunker telling the story of what was going on. We had a few short calls with Kuba’s business partner, actress Vikki Lizzi, before we finally got a chance to have a lengthy talk with her late last night. She tells us that they are planning to file a lawsuit against Scientology’s Hollywood Celebrity Centre for how shabbily the God of Pop has been treated.

After all these fits and starts, later today we’re finally supposed to Skype with the man himself (and his mother), which we’re very much looking forward to. But there’s so much background material to go through to understand what’s going on, we thought we’d write an initial story for today about just who is Kuba Ka for those of you who may not have heard of this entertainment superstar who was poised, he says, to become the next “messiah” and celebrity face of the Church of Scientology until it all went wrong.

 

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According to his website, Kuba Ka is descended from Alexander the Great, is Egyptian and Italian, and is an Egyptian god who is also Christian, Muslim, and Jewish. And, until earlier this week, a Scientologist. But he’s also a Polish guy named Jakub Stepniak who was not unknown in his native country, where he’s still remembered with some fondness as a smiling skinny kid on the make.

There’s a lot of nonsense about Stepniak online but we were happy to find a serious interview by Polish journalist Boris Kossakowski that was dated August 31, 2015.

Kossakowski explained that Stepniak was from Gdansk, Poland, and began making a name for himself in 2000, organizing charity concerts to benefit stray dogs and cats. But that run of publicity ended in 2004, and Stepniak told Kossakowski, “I still feel pain. I cannot accept what happened in Poland.”

 

[Jakub Stepniak in 2003]

And what did happen? Kossakowski asked, suggesting that Stepniak’s disappearance from the scene had been something of a mystery. Stepniak explained that he had been inspired in part by Poland’s first lady at the time, attorney Jolanta Kwaล›niewska, who, he said, had helped support his efforts. But then, he claimed, she had forced him to cancel a Christmas 2004 charity concert because it had conflicted with one of her own events. She then supposedly told him, “You have no place in show business.”

That incident was so traumatizing, Stepniak said, he suffered from PTSD for years afterwards. In 2007, he moved to the US and tried to start over, focusing on getting his body into shape. “To be honest, I still do not feel comfortable with myself,” he said. “I am constantly struggling with PTSD — fitness allows me not to invest energy in sadness, anger and depression.”

Kossakowski asked him where the idea of declaring himself “God of Pop” had come from. Stepniak replied that it had come from a conversation with Frank DiLeo, who had been Michael Jackson’s manager.

“It was like this. We were sitting with Frank DiLeo in the hotel. He said, ‘Kuba, I will make you a god.’ I liked it,” he said. Unfortunately for Stepniak, in 2011 DiLeo died after that conversation, but most of the marketing of Kuba Ka tends to begin with the idea that he was chosen by DiLeo to be his next great project after Jackson, who had died in 2009.

“Frank had great tastes: Chains, leather, royal style,” Stepniak said, which has inspired him to wear lots of Versace ever since.

His other great influence, he told Kossakowski, was Caitlyn Jenner, whom he found to be an inspiration. He also told Kossakowski that he was troubled by some of the reactions he was seeing back in Poland to his pop star transformation, but he hoped his native country could come to embrace him again.

“The Polish Internet is awful. People even say that I changed the color of my skin! It’s absurd. It hurts me so much. They do not understand why I’m changing. They do not understand what my art work is about myself. I believe that Poland will someday be proud of me – people will see my music videos and change their minds. This is my cry of freedom. I lived many years in fear, in silence. Now I have decided to live in love. The previous decade was a decade of fear: World Trade Center, George Bush. And now is the era of love, the Caitlyn Jenner era!”

 

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Vikki Lizzi tells us that she met and got to know Kuba Ka in 2011, which was also a year of tragedy in her life, the death of her boyfriend, Grease actor Jeff Conaway. And while she tried to recover from that blow, she did what she could to guide her new friend in Hollywood.

“He’s a little bit innocent, and very naive. When I first met him several years ago, he knew nothing about this town, and I had to guide him through every manager, every PR company, every label. It was always the same thing — they would take advantage of him,” she says.

Vikki — whose birth name is Victoria Spinoza — could be seen out with Kuba at various events as he developed his image and put out music.

 

[Vikki Lizzi with Jeff Conaway and Kuba Ka]

 
Conaway had his own history with Scientology, and it left her wary, Vikki says. So when Kuba first got involved with it about six months ago, she says he tried to hide it from her.

“He knew how I felt about certain things. He knew I was going to advise against it,” she says. “But this was something Kuba really had his sights set on. I decided to be open and give it a shot with them.”

As his March birthday neared, Kuba wanted to put on a major event at the Celebrity Centre that would be something of a coming out for him. “They were grooming him to be their new messiah. They were grooming him to be their new Tom Cruise,” Vikki says.

Scheduled for March 28, the event would raise money for charity, and it would be styled as an ancient Egyptian masquerade. (Here’s video of Kuba Ka announcing the event on March 5, saying that it would benefit Syrian refugees. “It’s a very special moment in the history of the world.” You can also hear Kuba say that it will be his 26th birthday. At least one Polish publication, however, listed him as being 29 years old in 2015, which would have him turning 31 now.) The party was going to be hugely expensive, and Vikki says they had spent months getting the details right and using her connections to get major figures to commit to being there, including royalty.

During that period of planning, however, Vikki says she became increasingly concerned by some of the requests being made by Scientology officials. “They wanted him to move to the Celebrity Centre. It was something they kept on and on about,” she says. They also wanted him to turn over medical records, she claims, and they wanted him to meet privately with John Travolta.

“They wanted him to meet John Travolta in a secret room. Kuba said, ‘No, I’m not going to do that’,” she says.

Another problem arose when Kuba said he wanted the charity ball to benefit a children’s hospital, and that he wanted some of the ill children to attend the event and watch him perform.

“When Kuba brought up the idea to bring the children, the looks on their faces. Why would you want to do that? they said.”

On Monday night at a meeting, she says, they were informed by the Celebrity Centre executives that the event was cancelled — just over a week before it was scheduled to happen.

The news was devastating for Kuba, who had to be hospitalized, she says. And after spending several days trying to find a last-minute replacement venue, late last night Patrick Stepniak issued a statement that the event has been postponed. (We sent a message to Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw asking for a statement about why the Celebrity Centre canceled the event. We’ll add her response here if she sends one.)

“This has now cost so much money. And it’s created severe emotional distress for Kuba and Michael,” she says, referring to MJ Powers, another associate in the “Kuba Ka Empire.”

On Tuesday, Kuba decided to return all of the books and materials that the Church of Scientology had sent him during his six months of involvement. “Kuba was so brokenhearted. He didn’t want anything left in his apartment to remind him of them,” Vikki says, adding that the experience was emotionally difficult.

“They were following him tonight. And they were following me. He’s really afraid tonight,” Vikki said during our late-hours phone call.

She consulted with her attorney about filing a lawsuit, saying that tens of thousands of dollars were lost because of the party cancellation, and they became even more determined to sue after the way they were treated when Kuba returned his books and they were treated rudely by security personnel.

And there’s another odd angle to the story that we’re looking forward to asking Kuba about tonight if our Skype session goes off as planned.

We told Vikki that we had been watching Scientology social media and could see that besides promoting Kuba Ka, the church has also been bringing along another new celebrity who has been trying to get more notoriety — the singer Princess Joy Villa.

Vikki tells us in fact that Kuba Ka and Joy Villa were planning to reveal their joint project — a song about human rights — at next week’s ball.

 

[Kuba Ka and Joy Villa, photo posted December 11]

But now, Vikki says, Kuba believes that Joy was stealing ideas from him and was also writing him up in “Knowledge Reports” to Scientology’s ethics department.

Kuba even says that Joy’s big recent fame-making moment at the Grammy Awards, at which she showed up in a “Make America Great Again” dress styled on a Donald Trump campaign poster, was actually Kuba’s idea.

“He’ll tell you all about it,” Vikki says, and we can hardly wait. (We sent an email to Joy asking her to comment on her friendship with Kuba Ka, and if she gets back to us, we’ll add her comments to this story.)

In the meantime, we’ll give you some sense of what the Celebrity Centre is missing out on with this video of a previous Kuba Ka performance at a Hollywood club. Seems like the theta energy is off the charts to us.

 

 
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Another fun chat with our friends at KABC 790 in Los Angeles…

 

 
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Less than three months to go — see you in Denver!

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,699 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,802 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,296 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,336 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,048 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 515 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,633 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,803 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,123 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,098 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 454 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,756 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 863 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,265 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,138 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 719 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,224 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,468 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,577 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on March 24, 2017 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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    • iampissed

      WTF

    • Liberated

      Meme needs a cape…..Super Meme !

      • or a gold chain

        • Liberated

          That’s even better lol

  • outraged

    Wow. Time Out for Cruise.
    This is HIM!! Definitely. A blind about Tommy Boy.
    Apparently the new chick is a no-no.

    http://blindgossip.com/?p=84199

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • outraged

      What is this…improv?

      • Sherbet

        It’s too sad to watch.

        • Qbird

          it’s horrible.

        • outraged

          very very sad.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Kuba’s girlfriend.

      • DangDadgummit

        poor attempt at a reality show

        • outraged

          VERY poor.

    • DangDadgummit

      Yikes!

      poor lost soul Jeff Conway (r.i.p.)

      • Qbird

        well scientology certainly didn’t help Kenickie with his drug addiction.

    • Jimmy3

      This is too awkward for a God to enjoy.

      • Jimmy3

        The only funny part is when the weird guy shows up and says “ahh.. The cuff fantasy again, huh?”

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I did like “that’s my brother he’s Canadian”

          • Jimmy3

            She says he’s a comedian. But Canadian would’ve been funnier.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I thought because he said,”kilo”. I guess i’ll have to watch it again.

            • Jimmy3

              Hah. But even Americans measure coke/heroin in the metric. Weed is usually ounces/pounds, but coke is always grams. Not sure why that is. I’ve never thought about it before.

            • stanrogers

              Only in small amounts. I direct you to an authority:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzrkDGxZexA

            • Jimmy3

              I’m sure he means car keys.

            • stanrogers

              Um, yeah. Customs is always seizing those.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              They do always take my key fob.

            • stanrogers

              They’re probably just concerned you may be trying to smuggle fobs.

            • daisy

              That is a real Canadian epidemic.We need to build a wall.

            • Jimmy3

              Thieves Steal Anything.

              I was being a smart ass once while a security guy was rifling through my carry-on. I kept saying “Nope. Nope. Not there. Did you.. Did you find anything there? Ok. No, not that pocket. Nope.”

              So he told me to be quiet and dumped the whole thing out. Not carefully.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Good lord if you only knew what I did for a living.

            • WhiteCentauress

              DEA ?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Lets just say I represent my own small pharma..

            • abdaman

              Bc sold in much smaller quantities. If you had an ounce of coke you’d be dead. Even an 8th would be way too much 3.5 grams I think?? But then why do they call it an eight ball for coke only?

            • daisy

              The whole world other than the USA are metric.

            • WhiteCentauress

              I thought England did, but they’ve converted, it seems. I found this. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d3a632129a9b1b3cf478c5952771db1d4742f32278b2205d7b95ebf84a2b52a.png

            • Juicer77

              Brits can’t decide. True fax.

        • daisy

          What was that? Feel free to make something up .

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I promise I won’t post anymore vids tonight but go to 5:38
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP2Bmny2_k

    • daisy

      I hate Tom as much as anyone, but he was right .

      • DangDadgummit

        Dagnabit !

        • Dagnabit

          Dadgummit!

          • WhiteCentauress

            Are you two related?

            • Dagnabit

              Dagnabit!!

            • DangDadgummit

              Dang. Dadgummit !

            • Todd Tomorrow

              They just retweeted that.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He brought it in though.

        • DangDadgummit

          He must’ve pulled it in yes ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Oh right,”pulled it in”. Not my day today.

            • Dagnabit

              Dang!

  • Vaquera

    Deโ€™Aaron Fox. Just sayin’

  • Hermesacat

    Could it mean one’s been leading a sheltered, uninformed life if one’s never heard of this Kuba Ka dude before? If he was slated to be the next Michael Jackson, surely I should’ve heard of him before now, shouldn’t I?! Heh heh.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      We’re you ever involved with a Polish pet rescue group?

      • WhiteCentauress

        I actually like that about him.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I actually work with Greyhound rescue so I was attracted to that aspect of him too. But something isn’t adding up. Can’t put my finger on it but something about the company he keeps. j. villa and a girl who would smuggle drugs into her boyfriend’s rehab.

          • WhiteCentauress

            That’s a great cause. I hate how they run them until they’re not “useful” any more, then just discard them. Kind of like Scientology.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              It’s like $cientology in that “it just gets worse.” I sent you a welcome to The Bunker note the other day but not sure you ever got it so, “welcome.’

            • WhiteCentauress

              Thanks.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Sometime we’ll have to explain to you why Jimmy3 said you might be Jenna Elfman. It has to do with your avi. Ok, I have time. Jenna Elfman is a total waste of a human being. Ex;
              http://www.divided-by-zero.com/showthread.php?2795-quot-AIDS-is-a-state-of-mind-not-a-disease-quot-Jenna-Efman
              Anyway, she has her own youtube show where she said.”If I could lay in bed all day and watch Netflix I’d blow a horse” So…

            • WhiteCentauress

              Ewwwww…..I was actually wondering about all of the horse references….so thanks for explaining….I think. Ewwwwww…again.

            • TexasBroad

              Next time you see Missionary Kid, ask him to give you the link to all the odd Bunker references. It quite long (and is hilarious) – he’s been collecting them for quite some time.

            • WhiteCentauress

              Oh, I need that. I hope “blowing charge” is included. Every time it’s mentioned, everybody “laughs”, and I just don’t get the joke.

            • abdaman

              Lol you just madE blowing charge pornographic, love it! ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Sine qua non

      I never heard of the dude. Looks weird to me.

  • daisy

    Is Micheal Pena a sci ? I hope not I really like Dax. I think I would like CHIPS

    • DangDadgummit

      long-time Scilon

    • WhiteCentauress

      It’s his picture on the wall at LAPD.

      • daisy

        Oh yeah , i thought he might be. Thx.. I had boycotting movies.

    • Liberated

      Funny you should say that…yes, he’s a clam and he was on the daily show last night and I’m saying to myself ” gee I’ve always liked that guy, too bad he joined that horseshit cult.”

      I guess I’m being prejudiced, but I can’t help but like the person less when I find out it’s true.

      • DangDadgummit

        he’s the only clam whose clam-like-ishness doesn’t come through in his acting seems like to many people who favor his performances

        • Liberated

          Yes, as long as he doesn’t start proselytizing his “beautiful religion ” he’ll be ok.

      • daisy

        I do not know him or his work . I just like Dax Shepherd in interviews.

        • Liberated

          He was in the movie “Crash” but so was Paul Haggis at that time too.
          He’s actually a pretty good actor, I hope he stays himself and doesn’t go ego crazy like all the rest.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Would the clam’s pull one on us and send us this story to “pull it in” and make us look silly. Did the Skype ever happen? Something smells like rotten clams.

    • Vaquera

      Yes, it happened.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Is it down thread?

        • Vaquera

          Uh-huh

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Really, I looked twice. Let me go see if it is on Facebook.

            • TexasBroad

              Tony Ortega Mod โ€ข 2 hours ago
              Two hour discussion with the whole gang. Really a lot of fun. And Kuba said some things I can’t wait for you all to hear.

              Will be burning the midnight oil again to make it readable for the morning.
              59 โ€ข Replyโ€ขShare โ€บ

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Yes, Tony said they talked for two hours and he is working on the story for us now…

  • Couch_Incident

    Just read a “Rick and Morty” comic involving multiple dimensions. Then read this. Not sure which is more surreal…

  • Amy

    I remember Vikki from celebrity Rehab. She was an enable for Jeff, and I believe got caught smuggling drugs in for him. She had her own dependency issues, which I hope she has gotten under control.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Me too but I remember many of those people had pilot fish trying to appear on the show to get their 15 minutes. She just inserts herself into situations like joy villa. you know any attention either bad or good is attention. I think they should have celebrity narcaloon w/ one of their quack Dr’s.

    • abdaman

      I remember her on there too! She was in rehab at the same time as him. Then they both busted out and went home to get high. Jeff waived his pills in front of the cameras face….then he died just a little while later :-/. If I had to bet I would say she is not clean….

  • TexasBroad

    DM – ‘What?!!!? What did you say? He wants to give the money to an ACTUAL charity?!!??
    Shut that *%&%*# down!”
    All day, I’ve had that feeling you get when you are watching a scary movie and the scary music starts and you are screaming “No. Don’t open that door!!! and everyone knows there is danger except the person in danger. I’m not sure KUBA has the big picture yet. Very glad he talked with Tony.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Late to the party today. Did the Skype thing ever happen?

    • Vaquera

      Yes

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Sorry, I saw your reply below.

    • Yes. Tony says he will have the story about his “fun” two hour discussion with the “entire gang” tomorrow

      • mandymarie20

        I’m curious how this went down. I didn’t think it would happen. I don’t want to go full on conspiracy, but I thought this was a trap or blackmail. I thought Kuba was using it to get what he wanted from Scientology.

  • Daverator

    I watched enough Kuba Ka videos to realize he’s just another idiot who thinks he’s gonna be a big star if he fakes it long enough. I doubt he was ever serious about Scientology. He probably thought that they’d give his career a boost and when it went sideways, he bailed. Now he’s just fame-whoring some more in the aftermath, looking for more attention.

    Dude needs to give it a rest.

    • Jimmy3

      But you watched his videos. The God community thanks you.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Anyone heard from Aergroprimo?

    • daisy

      About a month back Dodo said she seemed fine on her FB. Hopefully it is just a break, a long one.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        No drama I hope. I hope she and her family are ok. Baby didn’t go off on her I hope. You know how she can get after a few drinks.

        • daisy

          ???? You must be kidding. I have never seen Baby go off on anyone .

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Wasn’t she banned recently?

            • daisy

              Baby was here today. She has been ill.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I know sweety, i’m just stirring the pot. I can honestly say I love Baby.

            • daisy

              Please don*t tease the daisies .

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Happy Birthday Sweet Pants!!!

            • FredEX2

              Daisy? It’s your Birthday?! Hope you had a special day. Best of everything in your future. This one’s for you!
              https://youtu.be/DtjCXPxhMuc ๐Ÿ˜˜

            • Liberated

              If I had any skills I would play the Beatles song…” You say it’s your birthday ”
              But I don’t.

            • Liberated

              Don’t fuck with Daisy it’s her birthday.

            • TexasBroad

              Nobody puts Baby in the corner!!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Dice told me.

            • Liberated

              I’m gonna tell Dice you said that….yer busted!

      • Liberated

        Hey D…are you on FB?

        • daisy

          No , I barely am on the computer.

          • Liberated

            God, I was hoping you’d say that…me neither.

  • Mirnaminkoff

    Man, I never stopped being amazed by the strange characters drawn to Hollywood like moths to the flame. I guess that’s why Scientology fits in so where there, the ultimate meat grinder eager to chew up the hopeful and naive.

    • Liberated

      Excuse me, is your name from “A Confederacy of Dunces?”

      • Mirnaminkoff

        Correct! I’m not sure how many people ever pick up on that.

        • Liberated

          Mirna the Minx…are you kidding me?

          • Mirnaminkoff

            Under appreciated literary heroine imho. Of course, a few years ago the creepy Masteron – Scientology 30 something celeb crowd tried to appropriate the title of the book for one of their stupid projects. Not that they ever read the book by JKT, but probably took it from the Swift quote. Still neither of those men’s names or work should be put in the same sentence as Scientology – the irony is too great.

            • Liberated

              Now I’m really pissed, I did not know that.

              Mr. Levy goes belly up on Levy pants, so he starts Levy shorts. Whoa.. Jones!
              How dare those cult-addicted morons think they can steal such literary genius?

            • ReallyMGM

              COD is a brilliant book and one of my very favorites.

              I did laugh out loud at the mental picture of the Danny Masterson Scion trying to “word clear” the words and thoughts of Ignatius J. Reilly with his LRH dictionary and his clay table.

            • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

              My valve!

        • Jimmy3

          ‘Minkoff’ has a different connotation around here.

        • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

          One of the best books ever!

    • outraged

      Everything about it is appealing, everything the traffic will allow.
      https://youtu.be/4lakGIwI9u0

  • Vaquera
    • TexasBroad

      KUBA wants Peace with @Scientology.
      Exclusive interview for Mr. @ TonyOrtega94

      Ummm…..

      • WhiteCentauress

        He’s like a babe in the woods. I feel for this guy…..

        • Juicer77

          At 31 (yes, we have dox) he ought to have more sense. He probably does have a good heart but he has a long history of charitable work purely as an avenue to fame. SMH

      • Jimmy3

        Shhhhhhh

        • TexasBroad

          Better “shhhhh’d” than smited.

          • stanrogers

            He’s trying to give up smoting. It’s not easy.

            • TexasBroad

              AH! Smoted…not smited. That was vaguely bothering me but not enough to catch it. I learn so much here. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • stanrogers

              I got my grammar from this song when I was a yute:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YprGi7uGMQg

            • TexasBroad

              Lol!

      • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

        For Scientology, Peace is down-stat and down-tone. Only wogs want peace. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Well, he could have given an “exclusive” to one of the sites that pay for this celebrity type stuff. Especially with the Travolta angle. I tend to think the fact that he talked to Tony, adds credance to his story. And it looks like he’s going to drive Bunker comments over 2000 tonight.

      • WhiteCentauress

        Very astute observation. I think he respects Tony, and that gives me a bit more respect for him.

  • daisy

    Thanks everyone for your best wishes.. Jimmy I love all your incarnations but I am slightly worried you can see me at all times. I often pick my nose . I love my bunker mates . Hugs to all and even Jeb just cause I think it would irritate him.

    • Jimmy3

      I do too. So I dont judge.

      • Liberated

        Hey, yer majesty….”A Clockwork Orange ” is on TCM.

        I don’t even know why I’m telling you that.
        Your will is strong!

        • Jimmy3

          A little bit of the ultraviolence never hurt anybody.

          • stanrogers

            Well, not until you viddy the red, red krovvy.

            • It occurs to me that Burgess must’ve borrowed from Palare when he created Nadsat. I loved the language in the book and movie.

          • And Milk Plus. 2% preferably.

          • John Prince

            Right,Right!

      • John Prince

        Congratulations on Your ascendance to God-hood ๐Ÿ—ฟ (touches Forehead on Ground )..
        Do You hang out with jakub now?

    • The very happiest of birthdays to you, Daisy. I hope Fat Beagle was nice to you.

      • daisy

        She wasn*t nice , but she wasn*t mean. She did let my pet her 2ce, so she is warming up to me.

    • John Prince

      Oh? Happy Birthday Daisy ๐ŸŽ‚. . (Who knew? )

      • daisy

        Jimmy apparently , It is mildly disconcerting. I do not remember mentioning it .

    • ReallyMGM

      Happy Birthday! ๐ŸŽ‰ Hope you had lots of cake! ๐ŸŽ‚

    • Newiga

      Happy birthday, Daisy! xoxoxoxoxo

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Birthday?? Best wishes to my Daise- Daise!!!๐ŸŽ‚

    • Juicer77

      Happy birthday.xoxo

  • John Prince

    Poor little jakub was hospitalized with trama after co$ scratched his birthday party? and Now he’s suing them for it? With REAL Lawsuits about Wrongfull Death,Forced Abortion, Fraud etc. raging everywhere, I fear precious-snowflake-jakub * will have to get at the end of the long line. If he was traumatized for YEARS after the Polish First Lady told him he had no place in Show Business, (she was obviously right!) ,what will become of him when scibots start skinning him alive? Oh Dear, OH-H MY ๐Ÿ˜Ž this will NOT end well for jakub, no Sir,
    Best Case Scenario : he’ll crawl back to Poland and lick his wounds with his stray dogs& cats. .. Worse case?
    I’ll leave that open

    *thanks again, Madame D..i’m still blowin’ snot-bubbles laughin’ at THAT one!

    • WhiteCentauress

      Harsh.

      • John Prince

        Forgive me! Sometimes I just have to blurt out the ugly Truth. .it’s always been a weakness of mine ๐Ÿ˜Ž

        • WhiteCentauress

          I think Tony will shine a light on all of this tomorrow. Can’t wait. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • John Prince

          This is why I refuse to twitter. .You never know what assholes are lurking out there. .
          I might even run into donald trump..wouldn’t want to say the wrong thing and Start WWIII

          • WhiteCentauress

            Donald Trump should “refuse to twitter.”

            • Sine qua non

              Ya think? As if! Oy.

  • New Independent Scientology Podcast: Scientology Outside The Church

    https://twitter.com/aogreatplains/status/845467837871411200

    • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

      The New Improved, freshly washed, fluffed and folded, springtime fresh podcast.

  • F_Randy_Hullabaloo

    He reminds me of Borat. And, isn’t Kuba Ka such a delightfully wacky, whole-tracky name?

    • WhiteCentauress

      Yes.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      In Polish it means Bob.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • WhiteCentauress

      I need a translator. (For real). What is he saying?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Sold to “it”? Is he talking about being sold to the Cherch or…?

  • Ryan V

    As a massive Lady Gaga fan, still can’t get over his ties to Laurieann Gibson, lol…. here’s a thread I made earlier today where you can clearly see how the Little Monsters feel about all of this, lol…

    (As a reminder, Laurieann Gibson was Lady Gaga’s choreographer/”creative director” for her first two albums, but Laurieann left on very, very bad terms)

    http://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/226307-scientology-vs-laurieann-gibson-protege-kuba-ka/?page=1

    • Jimmy3

      I enjoyed this. You have pleased me.

  • Taffy Sinclair

    Why, o, why are my TR’s so fukkin’ brilliant??? Oh, cuz I’m a badass bitch.

    I understand if any of y’all’s is jealous…..

    • WhiteCentauress

      I think everyone’s asleep but you and me.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Agreed, we’re insomniacs!

      • Taffy Sinclair

        I like u centauress, yr pretty cool.

        • WhiteCentauress

          A cat and a centauress can be friends, no?

          • Taffy Sinclair

            Centaur is half man half horse, so a kitty can be the centaur ‘S pet. But yes, Def can be friends๐Ÿฆ„๐ŸŽ๐Ÿฑ

            • WhiteCentauress

              Cool. Now we need to think of eleven more things to say..let’s do it for the Bunker. ๐Ÿ˜‚

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Im actually watching Louis Theroux movie rite now on youtube!!! Have u seen it? If not, we can talk about somthin else ๐Ÿ˜€

            • WhiteCentauress

              I rented it on Amazon. It was really enlightening…

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Im renting it too

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Omg, I’m at the hole re-enactment scene!!

            • WhiteCentauress

              I couldn’t find anywhere to buy it. I think I would like to have watched it more than once. The Scientology watchdogs did exactly what was expected, by stalking and “confronting” him. They really are quite predictable. My son thinks I’m obsessed, but it’s just such a unique study in human behavior that I’m fascinated.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              You study psychology? I’m in college, it’s my minor

            • WhiteCentauress

              It’s so ironic that you’re a “dreaded psych”….how cool is that? But no, I’m a retired teacher, and that’s one of my interests. Human behavior is so predictably unpredictable.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Well, I think it’s the psychiatry they hate, but whatevzz. Oh, AND pharmaceuticals๐Ÿ˜ are u a new scion watcher, or been at it for decades, like me? Btw, I love meeting new people, yr very fabulous

            • Taffy Sinclair

              They hate me too๐Ÿ˜‚

            • WhiteCentauress

              But you seem so nice….๐Ÿ˜‚

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I am.๐Ÿ˜Š

            • WhiteCentauress

              I got HBO to watch Game of Thrones, and watched Going Clear. Been reading and listening to everything I can find since then.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Good!!! Keep at it! I tell everyone I know about this farce cult!! Hairdresser, housekeeper, landscapers, grocery store baggers, everyone!!!!!!

            • Taffy Sinclair

              & i wont stop

            • WhiteCentauress

              Bravo.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              May I ask, do you have an org in yr city, or mission?

            • WhiteCentauress

              Nearest one is sixty miles away. I’ve never seen an org or met a Scientologist.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Insomnia is abitch amh, right??? So, my city recently closed it’s “mission” cuz NO ONE EVER CAME!!!!!!!

            • WhiteCentauress

              This ideal/idle org looks shabby and deserted in the pictures. Hey we just surpassed the 2000 comments mark, and I was so into the conversation that I just now noticed. Our job is done here. It was a lot of fun, and thanks for the insights and information.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Thank you, centy! Glad to have met’cha! Going 2 sleep??

            • WhiteCentauress

              Yep. I’m 72, so need my beauty sleep… ๐Ÿ‘ต๐Ÿป

            • daisy

              I needed it in my 20*s. You are very talented. I say the art below.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              , which org u talking about?

            • WhiteCentauress

              …….

            • Taffy Sinclair

              g’nite

        • WhiteCentauress

          Can we talk? I wanted to request that you remove the foul language from any replies to me personally. I have eight grandchildren, seven of whom can read. I don’t want them to wander by the computer ar see my posts on the iPad with FUCK in capital letters. Think of the low esteem everyone holds Kirstie because of her obscene language and gestures. I think you’re young (if you are a college student with a small child), and realize you think it’s cool to curse and drop sexual innuendos. Just please don’t do it In reply to me. I hope I haven’t hurt your feelings, but I felt like this needed to be said. Linda

    • WhiteCentauress

      If I knew what TR’s were, I might agree.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Training routines, like bull-baiting, etc…

        • WhiteCentauress

          Scientology is a whole ‘nother language. I totally get what bull baiting is, though. You see it over and over. How many “religions” train you to be rude?

          • Taffy Sinclair

            God only knows,,,, I mean, xenu!!

          • Liberated

            Good point…I remember when I did it, I hated it.

            • WhiteCentauress

              You kept the “self” they were trying to erase….kudos.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Did you like learning not to blink? When I was a kid I tried all sorts of strange things like trying to learn how to use my non dominant hand all day long. But what benefit do they claim does that skill provide?

          • pluvo

            It’s actually not about training to be rude. Training routines were originally for auditors (Scn practitioners) and to train them that they can master the sessions and are not thrown of from reactions of the “pre-clear” (the person who is receiving Scn auditing). The bull-baiting is drilled so that the auditor keeps on calmly with the procedure asking or repeating the questions and is not becoming the effect of the reactions of the “pre-clear” which could be detrimental for the “pre-clear” and also the auditor.
            It is also used as drill to confront all kinds of things in life and to be “cause” instead of effect of one’s own reactions.

            (This just to explain in case you are interested).

            • WhiteCentauress

              Oh, I’m interested. My son and grandson would say obsessed. Thanks.

            • ithilien

              but in reality, the tr grads are manipulated and bullied out of tons of money, forced to do slave labor and rat out anyone and anything to keep their place yeah seems to work well.

  • Taffy Sinclair

    Well, as My friend the glamorous & glorious White Centauress said, time for bed, bitches!!! I kid, of course, but !!! I cannot wait for kuba’s innerview w/ tone-loc!!ยฐ I may have to skip my morning date w/ the milkman 4 this!!!!!๐Ÿ‰

  • Juicer77

    I figured it out. Kuba Ka is the Change.org of humans.

    • Graham

      So. Did last night’s Skype with ‘The God’ not happen?

      • Juicer77

        Apparently it did. Upcoming story promised.

        • Graham

          Just re-sorted from ‘Newest’ to ‘Best’ and seen Tony’s comment. Story should be out at 11am UK time, just when I’m due to be off for the week-end. Travel plans duly delayed by at least an hour!

      • Yes, it happened. Tony said he will have an article about his “fun” two hour discussion with Kuba Ka and “the whole gang” on Saturday, 3/25.

        • Graham

          Thanks ISN and Juicer. You’ve saved me from trawling through 2000+ comments!

  • Two tweets from Kuba Ka that may reflect alleged representations made by the Church of Scientology to him.

    https://twitter.com/Kuba_Ka/status/845553742799765504

    https://twitter.com/Kuba_Ka/status/845553986484617216

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Ok, who wants to help him set up a Go Fund me page. I’m really busy the next few months but maybe someone else could help her. His red underwear bill alone must be in the thousands a year.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8tsDdbXdE Auto-tune, underpants, music machines. Now I know he’s got a girlfriend and grabs his basket a lot. Is it just me or is my gay-dar” parting in the streets”. And he just had his 23rd birthday in 2013? WTF?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Are you referring to Vikki Lizzi? I don’t think she is his girlfriend, just his friend/associate.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I thought she moved from Conway to her, I mean him. I’ll re read the article.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          I’d venture to guess that Mike Powers dude is closer to him, if you get my drift.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Her involvement just makes this seem strange. She actually is prettier than she was without so many illegal drugs running through her system. Ok, I’ll admit I watched that train wreck of a show Celeb rehab with dr. Drew. She was just as much of a codependent mess as Conway.
            And what is up with this comment. “โ€œThey wanted him to meet John Travolta in a secret room. Kuba said, โ€˜No, Iโ€™m not going to do thatโ€™,โ€ she says. This infers that he’d have to blow him or something or this is something he fears as “he’s been taken advantage of” since he arrived.”
            Also, E! infers that his career is on his parent’s credit card which explains the $cions involvement. Without auto-tune he can’t carry a tune which is maybe/probably more common these days than I realize but something is missing in this story. In some photos he looks like his makeup is trying to cover up the fact he’s crowning 40. I don’t know I Walrus it’s that gut feeling like i had about marty. Something isn’t quite right.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              “Something isn’t quite right.” I say that while reading every article about the CO$. I guess that goes with the territory, doesn’t it? I watched that Celebrity Rehab too. She was smuggling in drugs to Conway IIRC. The first time I saw her on Kuba’s Facebook, I about fell off my chair. I’ve read so many things about Travolta’s creepy sex life that I wouldn’t doubt this “secret room” story. A few years back a guy wrote a book about his encounters with JT. Seemed a little hinky but then other guys started posting their encounters with him usually in gym showers, locker rooms, saunas. One guy’s description of Travolta’s technique to get him interested in sex was beyond bizarre. And totally believable. Don’t forget that Spanky said in Going Clear that the CO$ used it’s resources to clean up his messes.

        • Is the comment “to her, I mean him” meant tio smear Kuba Ka on the ground he is purportedly gay, or on the ground he is purportedly trans?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Just trying to piece together why a six month involvement with $cientology could be that eye opening. I don’t think he’s trans. As far as I know there has ever been a transgendered person in $cientology. Yet, like other right wing Christian sects gay people (not that he is, don’t care) sadly are still drawn to these in this day and age.

            • chukicita

              “As far as I know there has ever been a transgendered person in $cientology.”

              Kate Bornstein, white courtesy phone.

            • Robert Eckert

              And Denise Brennan

            • ithilien

              people always want to be accepted by groups that they feel are exclusionary, and don’t want them. they aspire to acceptance

    • I don’t understand the repeated speculation I see in the UB comment section concerning whether Kuba Ka is gay. Who cares? How is it relevant?

      Is there some allegation that the Church of Scientology discriminated against him because of his purported sexual orientation? After all, it is only organizations and persons like the COS who would care.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        It matters if it is just another example of chewing up gay people and stealing their money. Her comments about the secret room and him being afraid of Travolta are, well as odd as this story. Although illegal in California $cientology still claims it is still able to rid people of their gayness through (sorry, so tired) eversion-sp therapy. Always amazes me how $cientology seems to attract gay people unless, of course, they are blackmailing gay actors. They have to know especially by now how the cult treats and truly feel about gay people. I was under the eroneous perception he was dating Conway’s ex-girlfriend until I reread the article.

      • Ben Franklin
        • Todd Tomorrow

          Good lord Ben, too early. I bet he drives a really big truck. The coffee cup dish is a hoot i mean who gave that idea a thumbs up.

          • Frodis73

            Lmao

          • Ben Franklin

            Hey, I just wanted to put that whole question to rest for people who are still doubting what seems to be the obvious.

      • Robert Eckert

        Sad thing is, he is apparently trying to appeal to women, although he doesn’t know how.

      • ithilien

        its supposed to be a big put down…you know ex scientologists.

    • madge filpot

      Oh dear. Poor guy.. he really has zero clue how he comes off and nobody, apparently to be a guidance counselor. There are so many other ways he could be a good influence and help. All the best to the laddie.

    • Frodis73

      FYI, he pings my gaydar as well.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-89/
    I forgot all about Regraded Being yesterday and it’s such a good episode! I read it while having breakfast and I’m going to read the comments over there now.
    Good morning to all!

    • Juicer77

      Thanks for the reminder!

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. Today we are all Bunker royalty, so pull up a throne! f5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cafd5eb13f04178f0ea74a8035a944dbda2b4313e6143d9d048cc270aaf25e5f.jpg

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I just logged onto Facebook to find Leah Remini is trending at #3. Not bad for someone who, according to the CO$, is washed up without a career ๐Ÿ™‚
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c940faf164e3631a090809a2f594fe32aff76875391ee21542de84d4ffcfe271.png

  • Good morning early birds.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Mornin’ EE.

    • OOkpik

      G’morning, Eivol.

  • Tony Ortega

    Running late this morning.

  • Douglas D. Douglas
    • Ben Franklin

      I didn’t know that Matt Lauer is that kind of rich. That would mean he is probably worth at least $500 mil if the $200 mil divorce figure is true

    • he he… it looks like you went to a News stand and set up this photo shoop. You did, didn’t you ๐Ÿ™‚

  • madame duran

    I actually liked that KABC 790 radio interview without Jillian on. Her constant interruptions of Tony with her rapid yakking annoys me.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      She’s too perky for me.

  • Newiga
  • PickAnotherID
    • chukicita

      That’s like my normal face.

      • PickAnotherID

        In high school I had a science teacher that just explained how hydrogen combines with oxygen to create water. She gave me that exact look when I asked, “Then why doesn’t a hydrogen bomb just make a big puddle when it goes off?”

  • FredEX2
    • Todd Tomorrow

      LOL

    • MarcabExpat

      Actual true photograph of us all right now.

      In 20 mins I have to leave and be gone all morning, so I predict that the new post will be up in exactly 21 minutes, naturally ๐Ÿ™

      • chukicita

        I’ll hold your spot, hon.

        • MarcabExpat

          Thanks girl. You know I don’t want to rush through it once I sit down. I’ll bring you back a raspberry sundae, promise.

          • chukicita

            Yes, plz!

  • Tony Ortega

    Sorry for the delay. Jamming as fast as I can to finish up.

    • Science Doc

      Make the Bunker Great Again.

      • Will there be a Joy Villa dress for that?

        • Science Doc

          Nightgown.

        • MarcabExpat

          There will be a Kuba Ka costume for that. Hopefully with gold wings.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I’d bet she is finally trying to actually delete someone from one of her numerous social media accounts. You know the type that tries to add the guy who buried her Grandmum.

    • MarcabExpat

      Cut yourself some slack, we haven’t nearly finished buttering sufficient popcorn yet.

    • Frodis73

      I shiver with anticipation.

    • Chee Chalker

      Forget it…..I’m going over to another blog I found….Moving On Up into the Stratosphere
      You’ll rue the day you made me wait !

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        ha ha, Even Superman takes time to lift a mountain of information.

      • MrsShark

        You are up waiting too?

      • MrsShark

        Remind me to tell You what Mr Shark said when I showed him
        Kubas video. I’m still laughing

        • Chee Chalker

          If it wasn’t ‘now is the time on Sprockets when we dance’ I will be disappointed

    • Jeb Burton

      Giving me time to read “Who is Tony Ortega?”. Wow, I had no idea.

      • MarcabExpat

        Right? Alternative Tony Ortega is one scary dude.

        • Science Doc

          It’s like that episode of Star Trek where Spock had a beard and Sulu was bad.

          • MarcabExpat

            I love how even in the parallel universe they couldn’t bear to make Spock actually evil.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Is this click bate?

          • MarcabExpat

            If you’ve never hunted it down, I can’t say I recommend it. Not even interesting, just dreary.

      • STAAD (aka Freedom magazine’s secret identity) had an article into Google’s research into hate filters. So I dropped the first three paragraphs of their page on Tony into Perspective and Google rated it 38% toxicity or so.

        https://www.perspectiveapi.com/

        • WhiteCentauress

          I’d give it a 95% toxicity.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • chukicita

      In Just. Seven. Days.

  • Richard

    A Catholic, a Scientologist and Tony Ortega are talking in a bar. The Catholic says “The closest I can get to God is when I pray at night.” The Scientologist says “The closest I can get to God is when I come out of an auditing session.” Tony Ortega says “Really, fellows? I was on the phone to him last night.”

    • MarcabExpat

      *APPLAUSE* and a round on the house!

      No wait, I mean the entire house owes Tony a round right now.

  • Science Doc

    I bet it’s going to be about Scientology.

    • MarcabExpat

      Now now, don’t make any statements you might rue.

  • Sejanus

    That first picture of KK is like some bad gay porn Dr Strange

    • Susan black

      He’s got a touch of Elvis, doncha think?

      • Sejanus

        He was touched by Elvis?…lol
        oh wait misread…whew.
        Thought Travolta had called dibs.

        • Susan black

          more like Elvis’s love child.

          • Sejanus

            If the King had impregnated a rottweiler…
            with a chromosome disorder.

            • Susan black

              don’t hate on the god, kuba ka. he’s so cute in his red panties.

            • Sejanus

              Skeevy Skivvies.

    • Science Doc

      Dr. Strangelove?

      • Sejanus

        Travolta wanted to give Kuba’s kawk some Strangelove

      • ithilien

        dr. strangeglove

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    What’d I miss?

    • Science Doc

      The sound of one hand clapping.

    • TexasBroad

      Good morning, hon. Tony finished the post last night and now he’s sitting at his computer screen eating his oatmeal and watching us squirm.

      • MarcabExpat

        He’s waiting for us to get the comments up to 3000. C’mon, we can do this. We have the power.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        ๐Ÿ™‚ I’m sure. I really conked out. I thought you would all have had the party and gone by now.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      The clickity clack of Tony’s keyboard going faster than a military roll on the snare drum. Quick someone get Tony a glass of water…but place it far from that keyboard.

  • dchoiceisalwaysrs

    Is this a joke or something? Must be coz I keep laughing while reading all the ad lib commentary.

  • Tony Ortega

    OK, sorry for the wait. Here we go.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      yay!

    • PickAnotherID

      But, but, we haven’t hit 3,000 comments here yet!

  • Techie

    Kuba probably has it right, Scientology could use a dose of good old time religion. But it will never happen. From the many works of L Ron Hubbard: “Make money. Get other people to make more money.” “You never reward a downstat. If you reward downstats all you get are more downstats.” (Downstats, people with chronically down statistics, people who are not producing and contributing to society, like suffering children, political refugees, homeless people). “Make the able more able.” (Code for don’t bother with the unable). It is cooked into the very soul of Scientology, part of how they get by from day to day. They think they are the illuminati, the elite, the nascent gods of a new civilization. Hubbard told them this so they would willingly give him more money than he could ever dream of making as a fiction writer. And it worked, but it leaves a lingering residue of deluded suffering “elites” who know nothing better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3W-1q4n8Gw

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Tony, your interview was brilliant. I am very sorry to hear about your ex-father-in-law. I hope his family is considering a lawsuit. The scientology harrassment playbook must be fully exposed.

    I think Leah should devote one episode to teaching ex-members and their families and friends, journalists, and the like, on how to deal with scientology harassment. The first step should be to say no to any journalist or other person you (meaning the student) do not know. Explain that you want to research the person, and, if the research pans out, you will call them back. Police departments, universities, local and state governments, and the media, should be directed to watch this episode if they are confronted with a situation involving a scientology-paid P.I., or other harasser.

    On top of the Leah show, there should be a brochure entitled “The Way to Protect Yourself and Loved Ones from Scientology Harrassment.”

  • Christine Tucci Angell

    There is nothing about this that is boring, I’ll tell ya that. From the beginning of the article to the end of that video, I was held captive by the insanity of it all. Scientology is truly its own planet.

    • Betty

      Yes but if they would just stay there.

  • ithilien

    surprising the church would be involved at all with Kuba Ka, since Miss Vikki was quoted in an article claiming that her previous boyfriend jeff Conaway awoke once to a groping John Travolta. wouldn’t that make her an SP, and Kuba PTS?

  • indie8million

    “โ€œThey wanted him to meet John Travolta in a secret room. Kuba said, โ€˜No, Iโ€™m not going to do thatโ€™,โ€ she says.”

    This makes me wonder if, if what they say is true about Mr. Travolta, that the Cherch is setting up private gay meetings for him. Sort of like a parent would prefer that their underage son and his friends drink and smoke weed at home so that they are safe and out of harm’s way.

    Wouldn’t that be an interesting twist? If so, no wonder JT won’t look at anything negative.

    Just conjecture.

  • raindog308

    Wow, all those months watching Celebrity Rehab finally pay off. Vikki Lizzi…the pill-popping enabler of Jeff Conaway. First, I’m amazed she’s still alive. Second, I’m not surprised she’s found another B-list celebrity to glom onto. Sometimes, the Scienos’ attack videos on their critics just write themselves.