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Scientology’s pitch to Clearwater: Let us buy land for hotel, and we’ll gussy up downtown

Rod Keller continues to get us crucial information on Scientology’s latest takeover attempt in Clearwater, Florida. Once again, he’s worn away some shoeleather for us…

This week Scientology leader David Miscavige met separately with members of Clearwater’s City Council to discuss his plan for a business district in the downtown area. We have notes made by the officials, and they include some changes about the project from what was reported earlier. The Tampa Bay Times reported that city officials had earlier been told by Miscavige that property owners in the four by four block area would be required to sell to the church or a group of wealthy members, but after a public uproar, Miscavige is now singing a different tune, denying that he wants full control over the area in his meetings with the council members. “Mr. Miscavige reported that he did not have intent to control or exercise oversight of Downtown Clearwater as had been reported in the press,” says councilman Bill Jonson. [Please see our correction, below.]

“Mr. Miscavige spoke first of his frustration of not being able to roll out his ideas to the public on a timetable he had wanted to, because of the newspaper stories that he said were largely inaccurate,” says councilman Bob Cundiff. The city, county, state and federal buildings in the district are not for sale, and we haven’t found any business owners who have been approached to sell. David Miscavige did not ask the council members for a mandate to sell properties in the district to the church.

Instead, Miscavige had two main points to cover with the members. First, he presented his plan to renovate storefronts, recruiting retailers and creating a vibrant shopping district along Cleveland Street, and to build a movie theater complex along Myrtle, supposedly with some involvement from actor Tom Cruise. Second, he wants to purchase the property owned by the Clearwater Marine Aquarium (CMA) on the waterfront. That property is not in the business district, as Mr. Jonson noted: “I told them that this was outside of the scope of the ‘retail strategy’ presentation, and that since this was a proposed Council agenda item the same presentation would need to be made to the entire Council at the upcoming public meeting.”

But the two projects are undeniably linked. Councilman Hoyt Hamilton told the Tampa Bay Times “He didn’t come out and say it, but it was more of that his funding resources would be much more amenable if the (aquarium) property were to be available to the church,” Hamilton said.

That’s the deal Scientology is offering the city – renovations for downtown in exchange for letting the church acquire the aquarium site. All the city has to do is decline to purchase that empty lot and it will likely go to the highest bidder, which will be Scientology.

 

[Aquarium property sits between the Oak Cove and City Hall]

Miscavige has a theory as to why the aquarium is only being offered to the city at this point. Mr. Cundiff reported “He said he has offered the CMA a large amount of money for the property, but they are still reluctant to sell to the church. He said that he thought they would not sell because someone on the CMA board was a born-again Christian and hated the Scientologists. I told him that I was a born-again Christian, and hated no one. I told him that CMA should feel free to sell their property to whomever they wish, as should anyone who wants to sell property.”

David Yates, CEO of the Clearwater Marine Aquarium denies the fairly outrageous charge of hatred and discrimination. “This is untrue, and we currently have an offer before the City of Clearwater to purchase the property, as the City has conveyed to us multiple times their desire to own the property,” he tells us.

 

[Scientology’s Oak Cove hotel]

Scientology’s plan for the property is to build a hotel for visiting Scientologists with more amenities than the adjacent Oak Cove. They want to make staying at the Oak Cove more attractive with the addition of a swimming pool. “He said the hotel is a first class hotel, and is completely taxable, but has no amenities for the people from around the world who stay there. He would like to use the CMA property to build, according to the artist conception he showed me, a secondary hotel on the corner of Osceola and Pierce, with a swimming pool complex, and whatever amenities the hotel guests needed,” says Mr. Cundiff.

 

[Empty storefronts along Cleveland Street]

In exchange Miscavige is offering to renovate the storefronts along Cleveland Street. Councilman Jonson says, “The retail strategy is focused primarily on facade improvements along Cleveland. [Scientology] paid for the designs and offers financial assistance to pay for the facade improvements to be done to private property. [Scientology] retained Gensler Architects to design possible facade improvements for all existing businesses along Cleveland. Additionally they designed facade enhancements to now vacant storefronts. The facade designs generally follow the architecture design of historic buildings and create interesting facades for the existing generic building faces. Also present was Irwin Miller from Gensler in LA, Scott Dobling from Hybridge Commercial Real Estate in Tampa, and Wade Robinette from Retail Strategies in Birmingham Alabama. They said, ‘Cleveland Street has a lot of potential. We see massive potential.'”

 

[Lucky Anchor Irish Pub]

But not everybody wants a new building facade. The Lucky Anchor Irish Pub on Cleveland just finished thousands of dollars of improvements as a sports bar and not in the style of a historic building. “They would have to reimburse me the money I just put into it,” says owner Clay Irwin. Facade grants in other cities are usually matching grants, but in Clearwater the church is offering to pay for them entirely. “The church is considering paying up to 100 percent of the facade improvements,” says mayor George Cretekos. Mr. Jonson notes, “my personal observation is that the retail plan will be up to the downtown property owners as to whether to implement along with the decision of the entire community to shop.”

Former Scientologist Aaron Levin-Smith thinks the public will not support the district, but Scientologists will be forced to. “The language the church is using is not that this will attract a ton of non-Scientologists to the downtown area. Miscavige believes if he tells all the local Scientologists to shop in this area, after he personally selects and approves the businesses that will be in the area, it will be a win-win for David Miscavige and for the Scientology public. The downtown shopping center will be part of David Miscavige’s crown jewel. He will absolutely order all Sea Org members and all Scientologists to shop in the area.

 

[Tampa Org staff members with Irwin at his Cleveland Street pub]

“He will try to put businesses down there that would make going to Clearwater Mall or Tampa International Mall, or Dunedin unnecessary. The win for public Scientologists is that they would no longer have to go to other towns for their entertainment and shopping needs. The win for David Miscavige is he’ll look like he saved downtown Clearwater,” Smith-Levin says.

 
— Rod Keller

 
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story said that the Tampa Bay Times had published a story that was “largely false” because it said that Scientology leader David Miscavige required properties in the special business district to be sold to the church or its wealthy members or cooperative owners. That is what city officials were told before Miscavige, this week, changed his story and said he wasn’t trying to acquire the properties. The change in story was by Miscavige, and not because the Times got its story wrong. We regret the error.

 
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Adoption threat? Not so fast, attorney says

On Thursday, in the comments section of our story about Marty Rathbun’s December 2014 deposition, a comment was left by someone who had created their Disqus account to leave only that remark. They asserted that they had some knowledge of Rathbun and that his 2016 turn against his attorneys had something to do with the November 2013 adoption of a child.

That suggestion was then picked up over at the ESMB website and became a running talking point. Rathbun, the theory assumed, had changed direction so radically because the adoption was secretly being threatened by David Miscavige and the Church of Scientology.

Ray Jeffrey, Rathbun’s former attorney, tells us that’s extremely unlikely.

At the time that they adopted their son, the Rathbuns were each represented by Ray Jeffrey, Marc Wiegand, and Elliott Cappuccio, and the legal team was litigating Monique’s harassment lawsuit against the church. In January 2016, Monique fired the legal team and then, a few months later, dismissed the lawsuit. Marty Rathbun went on to badmouth Jeffrey at his blog.

We asked Jeffrey if this dramatic turnaround could be the result of Scientology threats regarding the adoption.

“It’s so farfetched I just can’t give it any consideration at all,” he tells us. “Remember, David Miscavige and the church were subject to the jurisdiction of a Texas court, somewhere they didn’t want to be. And we had in place an injunction that protected the Rathbuns from the church. Miscavige and Scientology would be taking an extraordinary risk to threaten the Rathbuns’ adoption. In Texas, it’s a crime to make such a threat — it’s called blackmail.”

Ray explained that if the Rathbuns had been threatened at that time, it would have been the best thing possible for their lawsuit, and so the church wouldn’t risk it. “Even if Miscavige had something negative on Marty, or were going to claim that they had something on him — even something they had a legal right to reveal — that’s called blackmail. I can’t think of anything that would have been more helpful to Monique’s case than to have a threat like that made,” he says.

“People must forget that David Miscavige was still trying to get out of the case. Why would the church risk making a criminal threat when the Rathbuns were represented by experienced litigators, with an injunction in place, and before a good and conscientious judge? It doesn’t make any sense at all.”

And yes, Jeffrey understands that the church doesn’t always act rationally: “They might have shot themselves in the foot by suing Debbie [Cook] and Wayne [Baumgarten], but this would have been so much more beyond that. I don’t think Scientology would gamble that Marty would not tell us about such a threat. It’s just not credible.”

Thank you, Ray, for helping out with that point.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

We meant to post this yesterday, and you might have already seen it. But if not, it’s fun to see Mark Bunker in action, bullbaiting the council. His segment starts at about the 5:30 mark…

 

 
L. Ron Hubbard’s birthday is March 13, and it was celebrated by Scientology with an event in Clearwater, Florida on March 11. But last night tape of that event was played in the other orgs around the world. Things looking a little sparse in Venezuela…

 

 
Cake in Los Angeles…

 

 
…and Portugal…

 

 
…and Budapest…

 

 
Meanwhile, here’s the actual caption from Joy Villa: “Friends Birthday party tonight! trying on different looks…winner or nah?” Is the MAGA queen suddenly too shy to mention LRH to her new fans?

 

 
Let them eat ice! (AOSH Europe)

 

 
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HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans. (And thank you, Observer!)

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,694 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,797 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,291 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,331 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,043 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 510 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,628 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,798 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,118 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,093 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 449 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,751 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 858 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,260 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,133 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 714 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,219 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,463 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,572 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on March 19, 2017 at 07:00

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  • Newiga

    ” The win for David Miscavige is he’ll look like he saved downtown Clearwater,” Smith-Levin says.”

    I’m sure someone already cracked the “Make Clearwater great again” joke? *ducks for cover just in case”

  • Bleuler

    Regarding the “record breaking” attendance in Venezuela, is there not very severe rationing going on (at least according to The Economist). How did they get access to all that cream and flour? And if Org members “donated” it, why aren’t they thereat least eating delicious caek?

    • Observer

      Illegal smuggling?

      • Kestrel

        In Venezuela, a land The Way to Happiness made into a paradise of sanity? Pish posh.

    • flyonthewall

      if they have hookups in the military they’d have no problem getting food staples

      • Observer

        Excellent point.

        • flyonthewall

          Thank you Obs. You know quality commenting when you see it

    • dungeon master

      Maybe it’s a mocked up cake – boxes covered with drapes, letters and candles (stuck in play doh?). Looks like a set piece to me, not food.

  • Jimmy3

    There is some strange hoodoo out there today… Does anyone else feel this? What is that?

    • Newiga

      If you drank the milk from the Bunker fridge, that might explain it. The milk had gone off days ago…

      • Jimmy3

        I thought that was yogurt? wtf

        • Newiga

          Oh ick… x( Make sure the way to the toilet is clear because the hoodoo is about to go down.

          • Jimmy3

            I have a bad feeling about today. It’s not right.

            • ExCult.Jan

              Still hungover from St Shamrock Day?

            • Jimmy3

              No. I’m as clear as any Scientologist today. I just have a weird feeling.

            • Elegant Mess

              No need to worry about that. Just get nekkid and run around. It’s no pants time!
              (Sorry, might still be drunk from yesterday.)

        • Rasha

          Ah, damn. That’s sealant. Sorry about that. The fridge was actin’ up, and… well, hey I tried.

    • outraged

      Perhaps it is in the air.

      https://youtu.be/RUMqLAs4frc

    • I concur. The squirrels outside my window are all aggro and bunchy. It has begun . . . (cue ominous music and Morgan Freeman VO).

    • Rasha
    • scottmercer

      I’m only a few miles down the road from the Valley Org opening, so it might be that for me.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous
  • Lousy Ratatouille

    O/T Just discovered ‘Angry Grandpa’.
    Scientologists’ turn from 3:45, ‘John Travolti’ lol.
    (maybe turn the volume a little bit down, a lot of swearing)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF07TOPe2CI

    • Grandpa be all salty an’ shit.

    • MarcabExpat

      I would like to see the video where he gets thrown off the airplane for speechifying during takeoff 🙂

  • sizzle8

    Wasn’t there a plan to build a fancy LRH memorial building?
    Chuck Beatty to the White Courtesy phone….
    I wonder if the aquarium property could be it.
    Remember that the loooong game is to make Clearwater the First Scientology City.

    • LRH Hall is supposed to be across the street from Stupor Power. I’m not sure why they want this property so badly. It backs up right up against the causeway wall. I suppose they could move city hall and combine the two properties and then they’d have room to develop . . . something.

      • Roger Hornaday

        “Stupor” Power? Indeed! Stupor Power is stuporous!

  • Newiga

    What on earth is that weird cape/coat in the LA cake picture? Or is it the cake? O_o

    • Those are racing silks for a jockey. It’s the LRH Birthday Game™ theme every year.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Because DM is jockey-sized?

      • Newiga

        Aaaaaa! Of course. -_- Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was tacky OT fashion.

  • EricS

    So, let’s see if I have this right…

    Scientology is going to pay for facades, on private businesses along Cleveland street, with tax free money it acquired fraudulently?

    Maybe they will acquire new funds fraudulently by getting donations from their public to pay for some, or all of it, plus a few million extra?

    And would it be too far fetched to figure that they would also be likely to use their own private slave army (sorry… navy) to do some or all of the work?

    Sounds like business as usual to me.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    As befits such an auspicious occasion, we will now sing.
    Please open your hymnals to page 47:

    Peas in the Valley

    There will be peas in the Valley for me some day
    There will be peas in the Valley for me, COB will say
    There’ll be sadness and sorrow tho’ no trouble I’ll see
    Only peas in the Valley for me

    Not all Valleys are the scene of fraud.
    Meanwhile, back in Patagonia

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/db408734f474e33d9418b522d47418128020cec52001448fce2d62c53a5f77a5.jpg

    • Observer

      I have always wanted to visit the Patagonia region. I have seen pics of landscapes there that look like they can’t possibly be real.

  • UhLasare

    Does anyone know if Chris will upload his live Q&A to his channel? I was at church. No donuts for me though. 🙁

    • i am lurking if it will comes up, but i am sure it will.

  • NewSciWatcher

    I know this is a ceerious forum, but I just love this prank call back from Anonymous protests scientology days. For those that haven`t heard it yet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efw8Nihw7uY

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Nice that at least one of the clams had a sense of humor.

  • nottrue
    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Let the regging begin.

    • salin

      So they have to bus members in. Again. There aren’t enough Scientologists in the Valley to fill up the audience?

      • Kestrel

        Short answer: No. Long answer: If there was a need for that org they would have built it years ago. The IAS would have loaned them the money, the flood of new members would have filled their rooms to overflowing, and they would have paid the IAS back and sent even more money uplines to build new orgs in cities where their presence is negligible.

        But you knew that.

        • salin

          Heh. I did. Thanks for the chuckle.

          I am enjoying the juxtaposition of Kirstie’s twitter rants yesterday including the 10 million members, and the next day seeing celebrants being bused in to a very populous area in order to up the optics of lots of scientologists.

  • Observer

    The Clearwater city council needs to word clear “acceptable truth.”

    “Handling truth is a touchy business also. You don’t have to tell everything you know — that would jam the comm line too. Tell an acceptable truth. … So PR becomes the technique of communicating an acceptable truth — and which will attain the desirable result.” -L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 13 August 1970 Issue II PR Series 2, in the Volunteer Minister’s Handbook

  • Juicer77

    Popping in to say… Clearwater knows that there are about 10K Scis worldwide now, right? And they’re broke paying for upper level services at Flag. Plus the emotional trainwreck of upper level auditing and regging. These folks won’t be in any shape to swim or shop. Utter foolishness, Davey Boy. You need to find some handier way of making a utopia for Cruise and his “friends.” Because we all know that’s exactly what you are trying to do.

  • Glen

    I don’t quite get it. Maybe we are just hyper aware in the bunker but I don’t understand how thoroughly disproven information is put out there as fact and is not immediately challenged. ( I’m trying to avoid political comparisons at this point) Alley’s tweets that say there are 10 million $cientologists in the world is just so amazingly far off. I mean, even taking the highest end of any projected membership figures, 50 thousand worldwide, how can anyone pump that up to 10 million?

    The Elfmans are still using the completely debunked figure 70% success rate at Narconon. These sort of claims are just so out of the ballpark. Even within the bubble and subject to the propaganda films and statements that $cientology puts out, it is just so unbelievable as to be ludicrous.

    Someone here recently posed the suggestion of tracking the actual numbers of people that are coming in and out of the Idle Morgues. The very low numbers it would yield would be revelatory in putting the lie to the claim of fantastic expansion.

  • Richard

    You wogs just don’t understand how important Clearwater really is for Scientology. Here are some remarkable top secret pictures that show that the town is just a springboard for greater things to come with the imminent release of OTIX and OTX… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d640c6451e2156ee43ed40cde07be48bbe63a7e7b7fccbe2643cc117a103e2db.jpg

  • Juicer77

    I just can’t with Joyless Villain today. Who the h*– cares what you are wearing to some idiot function. Get a real job, you tremendous idiot. Away with you.

    • Newiga

      *applauds*

    • Observer

      Bandage dresses make the wearers look like partially unwrapped mummies (in my warped perception, anyway)/

      • Newiga

        and I was about to add that at least she’s wearing something normal-ish this time.

      • Juicer77

        If one is going to attempt to rock the tats, one could go for something with more style.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      The Juice is feisty today! ; )

  • Panopea Abrupta

    It being the Sabbath,
    my dearly beloved brothers and sisters of the ASC,
    while we rue the day,
    let us read from the Gospel According to Panopea.

    Please rise.

    And it being in the Age of Aquarium,
    when the Wogites celebrate with caek,
    yea, even unto popcorn and libations,
    verily they did so with shoop and with meme
    and one-liners that were more seaworthy than
    the COB liner, the Asbestos Albatros.
    For the Feast of Howdycon being nigh,
    they were pleased with glad tidings of Princess Leah.

    But the Clamites turned the clear water into whine.
    And COB of Hemet made false promises.
    And he saith that he would build there an Inn.
    But the wogs might find no room at the Inn.
    And they would lodge in the stables.
    Jenna of Netflix was green with envy.
    And while some would build a Wall,
    But he having already con structed a Whaling Wall,
    so he sayeth that he would build a Mall.

    But the Clamites came there unto the Valley,
    being brought in chariots from afar,
    that it might seem like unto a multitude and a throng.
    And they found parking.
    And they took it as a sign.
    Yeah, the Gilded Lily of the Valley, Felliniesque,
    and whales likewise, a small pod,
    who spouted and breached and clapped their flukes.
    And the Clamites clamoured.

    But upon the applebox
    stood a bitter Lord,
    Dainty Dave,
    Dapper yet Daunted.
    It is not told if the applebox was
    Spartan or Cox’s Orange Pippin
    for orange is the new bleak.

    And he spoke in riddles and alternative facts.
    So that he multiplied the crowd at this inauguration,
    The Miracle of the Loads of Wishes.

    And the Wogites laughed.
    For the Clamites were as a Vice crying in the wilderness.

    This is the Word of the Lard.

    Ramen

    The Bunker has a new apprentice organist:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe46c5ade38318f21bbcecde92231db11f7bcc80bccbba9e7a25cdfb3fbf0f73.jpg

    • John Prince

      Obviously the next Beethoven!

  • nottrue

    Wonder if they are at Valley.. ..I think she sleeps with that medal on . . https://twitter.com/Joy_Villa/status/843516340472184832

    • MarcabExpat

      SO GLAMOUR

    • Observer

      Shut up, Joy.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Mr. Miscavige also made clear his one nonnegotiable demand: The offices of the Underground Bunker on the corner of Internet Boulevard and Exposé Avenue must be razed to the ground and its denizens driven from Clearwater at midnight by Scientology mobs at armed with pitchforks and torches.

    “The Bunkerites are far worse than the Born Again Christians who hate us,” complained Mr. Miscavige. “And so we in Scientology wish to drive them into the pounding surf of night and watch with considerable glee as the tide sweeps these horrible SP’s far out into the inky blackness of the ocean.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aac416b0ee7acf6e7afad178109a8f9feb826e0ddd9422c217e6cbae50530304.png

    • Juicer77

      You can kiss my @–, Missmanage. The Bunker is everywhere and nowhere.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        “COB’s vision is for Downtown Clearwater to become a Scientology Utopia,” explained Ken Delusion. “A giant implanting pageant will be staged each Sunday to fortify the resoluteness of hardcore gung ho Scientologists while scaring off the pantywaists and theetie wheetie dilettantes, i.e. public Scientologists who don’t have the money to stay in the IAS status game.”

        http://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/03/30/55196e5f0acde13473db3891_going-clear-xenu.gif

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Sweet Elron in the Sky, with the spirit of our Grate Flounder to guide us, nothing is impossible! Cult City, USA WILL become a reality…just as soon as we bribe the rest of these very useful idiot CW city council members, that is!

        • Kestrel

          They only way scientology, inc. is going to clear Clearwater is to replace all of its residents with clears. Now, if only there were any clears…

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            BE DO HAVE

            COB has to BE the landowner of 100% of Downtown Clearwater in order to drive all SP’s and other sources of suppression from Flag Land Base. After all, as the Founder has written, “Scientology cannot thrive in an atmosphere of suppression.”

            After the wogs and SP’s are purged from Downtown CLW, COB can finally DO what it takes to make Clears — and that is to build a new hotel with amenities such as a swimming pool. As proven by actual survey, the WHY for no Clears in the past 67 years has been the lack of a hotel with amenities at Flag. This is true in present time and it was true before Flag came into existence. Swimming pools are that important in Florida.

            Once the new Flag hotel with amenities is opened, and the projected date is 2047, then Scientology can finally HAVE Clears.

    • Newiga

      Warning: I’ve hung OT3 materials nearby as scareclams (an ecclesiastical version of scarecrows). You wanna risk pneumonia?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
        • Newiga

          My cognition? Clams have a bad fashion sense and there’s hardly any bodies to count in the borgs and other Scientology buildings.

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            What did you say about Scientologists having bad fashion sense? OT Juliette Lewis can’t hear you from the the stage.

            http://www.dlisted.com/files/b88iae.jpg

            • Quick empathy

              No that is just GROSS!

            • Chewkacca

              She going to do a pussy fart.
              WAAROOUNK!

            • JJ

              Vagina Monologues the musical?

        • stillgrace2

          Sheesh! LRH can’t even cross a “T” correctly or consistently! He’s too much of a big being to bother with dotting “i’s” right either.

          • Kestrel

            “T” at the end with a swirl. “T” in the middle looks like a “Y”. Now, about those “C”s…

            • stillgrace2

              IANAG– (I am not a graphologist) but I get a ‘creepy” vibe when I see his handwriting. Notice how his writing rides up across the page.

            • Kestrel

              I’m not either, but I think there is something about rarely dotting your “i”s that’s some kind of tipoff. My mother studied that stuff back in the 60s and accurately determined that a customer was writing a hot check by the handwriting.

            • stillgrace2

              Graphology can come in handy at times. Good for your Mom.

            • Liberated

              I think it’s creepy too. Reminds me of the “serial killer scrawl”

        • Observer

          What’s an “eognixion”?

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Wouldn’t that be nice?

    • madame duran

      You realize that the ocean’s expanse is vast and it can easily overwhelm and erode the land, right? SPs be comin’ at ya like a tsunami (pretty much like it’s happening now). From “internet fringe” to fluid, global-encompassing presence…I say that’s an upgrade.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      I’m sure he would love it dearly and gloat late into the night over such a triumph, but the real question remains: What is his royal tinyness willing to do in exchange?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        12 February 1967 PL ‘Admin Know-How, the Responsibility of Leaders.’

        …always push power in the direction of anyone on whose power you depend. It may be more money for the power, or more ease, or a snarling defense of the power to the critic, or even the dull thud of one of his enemies in the dark, or the glorious blaze of a whole enemy camp as a birthday surprise…

        What COB is willing to do in exchange for the CLW City Council pushing power in his direction by allowing him to buy the land is to gift CLW with sterile and unimaginatively dull facades. This is blue chip exchange in COB’s opinion.

        http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Storefronts1-e1436850472215.jpg

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Welcome to $cilonville, may the farce be ever with you!

          Did I get the rumor right, is TC going to back the new proposed theater complex and start his own film festival, to be named Clamdance, in homage to Robert Redford’s hugely successful Indie film fest?

          I sure hope so! What CW really needs more than anything to grow and thrive in upcoming decades is obviously more of everything $cientology…that’s the ticket!

  • ron_burgundy8957

    Key passages:

    “Scientology’s plan for the property is to build a hotel for visiting
    Scientologists with more amenities than the adjacent Oak Cove. They want
    to make staying at the Oak Cove more attractive with the addition of a
    swimming pool. “He said the hotel is a first class hotel, and is
    completely taxable, but has no amenities for the people from around the
    world who stay there. He would like to use the CMA property to build,
    according to the artist conception he showed me, a secondary hotel on
    the corner of Osceola and Pierce, with a swimming pool complex, and
    whatever amenities the hotel guests needed,” says Mr. Cundiff.”

    “In exchange Miscavige is offering to renovate the storefronts along Cleveland Street. Councilman Jonson says”

    “The downtown shopping center will be part of David Miscavige’s crown
    jewel. He will absolutely order all Sea Org members and all
    Scientologists to shop in the area.”

    From City Council Meeting

    -Members invoked members rights to speak constantly, essentially chiding the dissent about civil liberties, human rights, and the constitution. Of note, recently elected member, a college professor (Cundiff), droned on about the “right to privacy” (still looking for that) and supposed transparency. All citizens are citizens, apparently even if they were brought in as a result of Operation Normandy (thanks for point that out Mark Bunker).

    -Doreen Caudill wanted everyone to know that there are great things to do in the downtown area already! You can do yoga in a park that hasn’t been fully renovated or dine at poorly rated restaurants. Oh and theres a nice beach! Get the brownies!

    Personal Opinion: Miscaviage is continuing Operation Normandy with his most recent attempt at a land grab. The lack of press transparency and clandestine meetings were no accident but a calculated effort that the “dissent” had gone away. Sadly, it backfired and the council was left to talk down to people and virtue signal. Miscaviage hopes to create an even larger number of Clearwater residents who are Scientologists by expanding capacity to bring people in and hold “courses.” Some would buy homes, enabling them to legally vote. Council has no problems because these people will soon go broke as there are limited jobs in the area, huge financial obligations with the church, and crappy pizza they have to eat. Thus, creating a greater need for “community” services such as clinics, WIC centers, education, etc.

    • Juicer77

      Order them to shop there…. Um, I thought he didn’t control these “volunteers”? Dave, your slip is showing, big time.

      • EmmaDaoust

        Order them to shop there — in all that free time and with their huge salaries.

        • Juicer77

          ^^^

    • madame duran

      Where in that first quoted paragraph do you see any mention of services geared towards non-Scientologist Clearwater residents? There’s NOTHING. Miscavige expects Clearwater to have an economy entirely built on the presence of visiting/residing Scientologists. So what happens when Scientologists blow? What about the needs of non-Scientologists? If the Toronto Star newspaper in Canada can notice the undesirable transformation of the city’s downtown made by Scientology, then why can’t Clearwater’s city council get a clue? This whole thing makes me so upset and I don’t even live in Clearwater!

      • ron_burgundy8957

        Because they secretly want the anarchy

  • Knowing something of Shortarse’s Lucullan appetites, I can already imagine the adverts for this hole-in-corner takeover of still more downtown CW… (remember, never tell a Chanel vendeuse “you can lose the attitude, you’re just a shopgirl”): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60d36e2431ef02b5203f5fc96058386bb0c7c9501c7638ca767d3ecfaa0466bf.jpg

    • Newiga

      Silent Hill vibes…. Also: Lafayette Book Nook, LOL!

      • I still get more of a The Prisoner ‘village’ vibe—Silent Hill needs fog, which I gather is quite rare in CW 😉

        • Newiga

          Fair enough. 🙂 Besides, Miscavige would make a poor Pyramid Head.

          • Observer

            The creepy nurses would feel right at home, though.

            • Newiga

              Stuff of nightmares… like much of Scientology.

        • Observer

          Not if you count all the Scientologists’ brain fog.

          • Just as long as it stays in there, and doesn’t get out into the council chamber…

            • Observer

              Too late!

    • MarcabExpat

      It’s a shoop, but seriously I wonder how far off it is from some of the actual schemes.

      (Also, ISWYDT.)

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Totally killin’ me here, especially the fine-print bottom note!

      Bring it back! Bring it back! Bring it…

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    Reading today’s TBTimes, found in the Business section by Robert Trigaux : “Four issues bubbling to top of our priorities” Second one:
    (This I will quote at the April 20 th meeting for the record, for those not reading this.)

    Welcome to ScientologyVille:
    So this is what abdication feels like. Downtown Clearwater, long under the thumb of a well-financed and growing Church of Scientology, is throwing in the towel and will let Scientologists take charge of much of the city core’s economic development.

    It’s a disturbing, astonishing turn of events. Just wait until the world stops fixating on Trump long enough to clue in to Clearwater’s surrender. A few newspapers already are paying attention, as this’ Toronto Star’ newspaper story from this month notes: “In this down-on-it’s-heels resort town, one thing is for sure: (Scientology) an occupying power and avaricious property-gobbling enterprise.”

    This is just the beginning. Clearwater was long shunned by expanding businesses and others because of the over-whelming presence of Scientology. Now it may win too much attention as the city that couldn’t, the downtown that failed to hold it’s own. Is downtown Clearwater about to become the Scientology version of Vatican City?

    Heads up. Tampa Bay. the broader region may not remain immune to the radical rebranding of one of the three cities that make up the Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clarwater metropolitan areas. Businesses, Millennials, retirees, tourists: They will all take notice. Some, perhaps many, will ponder alternative destinations.

    Perhaps the ‘Toronto Star’ headline says it best: “Scientology’s Florida kingdom like something out of a Stephen King novel”.

    (Wow, with my eyes and help of a magnifying glass, it is done)

    • Newiga

      Thank you for posting this, Dee! <3 xoxo

    • stillgrace2

      You rock, Dee. Thanks for reading this to the bunker.

    • madame duran

      Original Toronto Star article – Scientology’s Florida kingdom like something out of a Stephen King novel by Rosie DiManno (March 7th, 2017):
      https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/09/scientologys-florida-kingdom-like-something-out-of-a-stephen-king-novel-dimanno.html

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Thank you so much. Tweeted and FB posted.
        Plus share with couple local ppl

    • Ann B Watson

      Thank you Dee. Info most revealing. 😘

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      It’s really sad (& scary) how the city council has varied between just giving up and bending over to openly letting the CO$ bribe or coerce their way into whatever they want!
      Does the public at large down there feel as disturbed by it or is it more just those who are exes or more aware of Scientology that are even aware it’s happening? I’ve noticed in recent TBTimes articles that more people (not just exes, like it used to seem to be) seem to be commenting and bothered by it, so I’ve hoped that means the public at large is becoming more aware. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to you and others who DO know and/or have been involved before to see that evil organization taking over the city even as their public profile is sinking faster than ever before!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Thanks Jenny. The citizens have been aware of the cult since they moved in, late 70;s They had all sorts of protests. Only some of the old timers continue to protest by mail or whatever means. They’ve had it with the city planners for so many years now and no energy left to fight much. Of course lots of new people since then who do not know the history, even the city government. Since they are told by the cult that it was long ago and they have since changed, which they have not.
        The good news is that so many former members are speaking out. They have to listen some and look around the world. However, they also want peace in the city and will give the cult benefit of doubt. Some wimps, huh?

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      PS – The lone councilwoman who refused to attend the meetings w/DM has my ultimate respect- I hope they aren’t starting their usual dirty tricks ops on she and her family now!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Oh Doreen. Thought the same, until she admitted at the meeting that she already had talked to DM and that she has been a regular at events in the Fort Harrison. I’m sure she’s been had, imo.

  • Jeb Burton

    After reading our city council is listening to this lunatic idea for downtown, watching the Sunday morning political shows and I think my hot water heater is on the fritz, I’m ready for some me time. Time for a Jeb Martini. 4 shots of vodka, half a shot of vermouth, served dirty over ice. No, I am not a purist. Then head outside, It’s 73, I have my Jeffrey Archer Clinton Chronicles novel, no heavy reading, my walkman radio tuned in to the NASCAR race, thats stock car racing bunkerites, I know youve never heard of it and then chicken fajitas for dinner. I know, nobody cares, but the old lady is out shopping and I have no one to talk to.

    • Have fun!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      In short, the kind of normal Sunday of rest, relaxation, feasting and the enjoyment of adult beverages that none of the poor $ea Orgy slaves down the road from you have enjoyed in a very, very long time 😉

      With CW continuing to turn into ZombieLand before your very eyes, you really do have to remember to follow rule # 32 “Enjoy the Little Things!”

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      Go Junior, Go Jimmie, Go Harvick! 🙂

      • stillgrace2

        Hey Jeb- Joy Lover’s a NASCAR fan that’s a bunkerite, too! You are not alone.

        • Kestrel

          AND she’s not a Kyle Busch fan!

          • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

            LOL Definitely Not!

      • Jeb Burton

        I love you. Let’s go racing boys! I love Suarez.

      • Quick empathy

        My favorite driver is Dale Jr. And anybody that wrecks Logano! Hahahaha

        • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

          Love, Love, Love Junior! (And anybody that wrecks Kyle! HA!)

    • Liberated

      Are you sure she’s coming back?

      • Jeb Burton

        I wonder that every time she leaves the house.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      No no no. It’s not a martini unless gin is involved.

  • nottrue
    • salin

      It looks so crowded. So expanding.

    • Newiga

      Expansion of what? Egos? Scientology war chest?

      • salin

        IAS coffers (and the sucking dry of scientologists’ wallets/lines of credit)

        • The sound of brains being sucked dry, like a straw in the bottom of a stubborn milkshake.

      • Harmless Weirdo

        Those individuals’ net worth, is my guess–in a negative direction.

      • abdaman

        I think she’s referring to the gentlemen standing behind her

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Will the bookstore behind the Scientology storefront still be allowed to sell just ANY newspaper and to sell just ANY book and put it in the window for display?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e599a66b8e5b1473a501e71a0a0ce3f1e31d8ba6ed7c7f28dcf8856a98411e67.jpg

    • Quick empathy

      I would move to Clearwater and open a bookstore just so I could put that book in the window! Then I would have book signings from Tony Ortega, Lawrence Wright and other fabulous authors!

  • Roger Hornaday

    Whether you want to believe or not believe the Clearwater Mayor is in the pocket of the church of scientology, you have to admit his attitude is rather, shall we say, ‘accommodating’?

    • Ben Franklin

      At this time I don’t believe he is in their pocket, but I believe he is very sympathetic towards CoS as the mayor himself, I believe, is a member of the orthodox church, so he is probably tried to show CoS that he can relate.

      • Roger Hornaday

        Why should he try to show them he can relate? This isn’t a popularity contest.

        • Ben Franklin

          The mayor talks about CoS as an organization that is just misunderstood. I remember watching a video clip where the mayor was suggesting that the only problem with Scientology is that they do not have good public relations otherwise they are just a misunderstood organization in his opinion.

          • Quick empathy

            Doesn’t the man know how to use the internet? Maybe we can send Kristie over to convince him to vote scientology’s way….

          • ombrifuge

            It’s about time he did some proper research on it then.

      • ze moo

        Clearwater has a lot of hard choices to make regarding its downtown. Either abandon it to the Clams or turn it into Hipster land. The Beer Pub and the Aquarium are the only things really going on down there. I don’t think that anything the city does is going to matter. Locals will not spend any time down there aside from the Aquarium and Beer Pub. And those attractions are not enough to do any thing for the city.

        The welcoming stares of the Sea bORg will not change anything. The only ‘destination’ tourists are clams going to flag for flagellation.

        The locals will not abandon the local malls and movie theaters. No one wants to go Phils Nails in the clam land.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CZUEVVpvA

    • Observer

      I think he’s afraid. He knows what happened to Gabe Cazares.

      • Roger Hornaday

        Yeah.

    • Jeb Burton

      I did talk to him by e-mail. He told me he was watching Leah’s show. I hope he isn’t as clueless as he seems to project. We will see when the vote comes up.

    • Ann B Watson

      Hi Roger, Very good to see you. Love your posts always.💛

    • Like a cheap motel.

  • nottrue

    Kiristie explains voting..Scientology Royalty at its best.. .. https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/843550470140510208

    • flyonthewall

      now she tells me. Thnx kirstie

      • Newiga

        xD *chokes on her nightcap*

    • stillgrace2

      Trump hit on Kirstie??? Really?

      • Kestrel

        I’m trying to come up with an inoffensive analogy involving Trump dumping his wife for Kirstie, but let’s just say you don’t trade in your Bentley for a Yugo.

        • Keeping Scientology Waning

          Or a YoYo.

    • Quick empathy

      Seriously who has become ridiculous? She is one trashy foul mouthed bitch. Such notable high standards of a scientologist. The most ethical people in the world.

    • Chee Chalker

      Ah, that’s what I love about Kirstie….sheer class!

    • Observer

      You know that’s what your candidate expects of you, don’t you, Kirstie?

    • Newiga

      139 characters of pure class.

      • stillgrace2

        Trying to figure out what her 139 characters actually mean is very challenging. She does like to shock people, but this is just abstruse.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      OMG!

    • outraged

      IDIOT.

    • Gflded

      Really?? Wtf..

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Classic Krustie! Making $cn grate again…one silly ass tweet at a time!

    • Liberated

      Just when I think that chick can’t get anymore disgusting, she tops herself again.

      Maybe she and Jenna can go on a double date….sounds fun!

      Wonder if her kids are proud of their vulgar mom?

    • abdaman

      What I want to know is where are all these people that actually believe you are required to fellate the winner of an election. Apparently I need to start running for office.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Incroyable.

    • This should have been a reply to Joy Villa.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Such advanced communication.

    • madame duran

      So…is Kirstie expressing regret for voting for Trump?

    • If she does will she get to watch Netflix?

    • JJ

      What in the fuck a ding dong is that?!

  • nottrue
    • GrangerFX

      They have not figured out the whole idea of YouTube have they?

      • One day, they will discover it is called Periscope on Twitter

    • ze moo

      I see the minions have brought many shrubbery for their masters enjoyment. Now, cut down this Oak with a herring!!

    • Quick empathy

      I want drone footage of the crowd so I can do a count!

    • Ben Franklin

      Opening of the “largest church of Scientology in North America” but no media is invited? Scientologists don’t even wonder why there is no media there?

  • Elegant Mess

    Funny. I had a cake made for a photo shoot that looked remarkably like that cake from Portugal. It was made of fondant and florist’s foam.

    • Quick empathy

      A fake cake for a fake religion. (Edited for spelling!)

  • Ok! Chris Shelton just posted a copy of his Q&A #100 from this morning when he did it live
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeDrc2WhYCs

    • outraged

      He’s seems so cool.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Just a note, Chirs says they give you a bracelet? Heck, I and most, had to buy it. Oh maybe he did pay for it, eh? Another good video.

      • stanrogers

        Think of it as giving without being out-exchange.

      • Ben Franklin

        Do people in the Sea Org have to buy the bracelet too? How much did it cost when you bought it?

        • Liberated

          The cult never gives away anything, the clear bracelet is purchased by the “clear.”

          The only thing they do give away are those stupid gigantic bowling trophies, and look what those things cost.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          I believe so. My cost, don’t remember, but near couple hundred in ’79. Sold it for scrap gold in 2010. Before I went back for that year of life-changing discovery!

  • Vaquera
    • Wow! park 16″ from the curb for a perfect take off LOL

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Looking more and more ideal every day from where I’m sitting!

    • salin

      Wishful thinking: someone posts a sign beneath the Free Personality test sign that says “This is how Scientology starts their scam” with an arrow to the personality test sign.

    • stanrogers

      Nothing bustles in Winnipeg until mid-May. Then it’s more “madding” than “bustling”, really, as everyone scrambles to get things done before The Mosquitoes come. (And yes, in Winnipeg, one capitalizes “The Mosquitoes”.)

      • Vaquera

        “Madding.” That’s a new one for me.

        • stanrogers
          • daisy

            Are you a Manitoban , or just one who knows it*s climate ? ( I lived there for 30 yrs and still complain about the weather and bugs ) I saw the movie so I am thanking the director for not changing the name of the book.

            • stanrogers

              Air Force. ‘Er Majesty sent me there a couple of times. I recall it being very slightly warmer and less windy than CFS Alert (from which one can throw rocks at the North Pole) in winter, and it was difficult to tell the aircraft from The Mosquitoes during their feeding season. I was never there for the flooding ceremonies, which I take it are a local religious tradition of sorts, like perogies and Slurpees.

            • daisy

              Ah the floods * sniff , so many memories .

    • I’ve been there quite a few times. Always dead. They bought a building a few blocks away (to your left of this photo) some years ago which is a crumbling ruin. It never gets mentioned in the lists of buildings purchased but never renovated. It likely never will get done.

    • Observer

      Curse you and your wog provable facts!

      • ya, well, i just want you all to know that paying your PTC dues on time every month is going toward a good cause

        • iampissed

          OK…I’ll bite PTC?

          • You didn’t hear? We all decided to change the name of our cult from the ASC to the PTC (pro-truth cult) … I blame Observer.

            • iampissed

              No didn’t hear that…I’m now up to date, for 5 mins. Thanks for trying.

            • 😉

    • iampissed

      Did ya go?

      • No 🙁
        I didn’t hear back from anyone else in our crew in time to coordinate the field trip, and didn’t want to go alone ‘cuz, you know.

        • iampissed

          Well maybe the next time they open we can get something going.

          • iampissed

            Sounds like 3D brought a six pack and scored a place across the street.

          • ExCult.Jan

            Like a GoFundMe for a plane flyover with a Call Me banner.

            • iampissed

              That is so tempting.

        • iampissed

          Hell ya I know…I would have thought about it, but I had a ball cock to replace.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Sure, I’d rent $camatology my empty employee parking lot for the weekend…for only $237,754 + cleaning deposit and BT removal fee.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    “We have the right to disagree with eachother,” Allright, I can agree with that.
    Here’s another round of TR Bullbait for the council members of Clearwater.
    Start:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UzriTIeZdQ&list=LLE5AXz6WwQVTCVFRFoOpa9w

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      The 80s was not entirely kind to our musical icons, but Tina has always been the real deal.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I am playing hooky from the family. You will never guess where I was.

    Across the street from the Ideal Org dedication in the Valley. Photo attached– I have seen Miscavige and live to tell the tale. Heard him, too. And… took twenty minutes of really terrible video. I cannot upload from this mobile device. We are about to go into the movies. I will tell all late late tonight or tomorrow. (Tell the proprietor I sent him some email.)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc4f9ec7be72c33403b58339b6767912ad31e80f7bcdda2993482ffba6af6d36.jpg

    And yes, Miscavigge is in there.

    • Observer

      Shrub tech is ineffective.

      • iampissed

        Funny I thought maybe the small brown spot was just a recreation of that wonderful
        meal we saw a few days ago.

        • Observer

          lol

      • Shrub tech gave DDD cover!

        • Observer

          I’ve always been a glass-half-empty kind of gal…

          • salin

            I am challenged by that – I waiver between half-empty and half-full. Cynically optimistic predisposition. It’s a disposition that kinda sucks. Always disappointed, but always understand and anticipate the disappointment.

            • Observer

              I always prepare for the worst, and I’m usually the only one prepared for the worst when it happens. I have saved so many people’s bacon at work, both in this job and previous ones. In the most dramatic instance (at a previous job) I saved the company weeks of time and thousands of dollars in rework by pointing out one simple thing that was about to go wrong. My boss, who was a Navy veteran and only regretted that she couldn’t send any of us to the brig for displeasing her, then gave me the only mediocre job review I have ever had in my life, because of my “negative attitude” in pointing out potential problems before they happened.

            • salin

              There is great value to finding red flags – as only then is there the possibility to acknowledge and work to find workarounds – or alter goals/paths to goals. That supervisor who dinged you, I would guess ultimately had a price to pay by being responsible when outcomes fell short of goals.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Not actually Shrub Tech. I was on an apartment building balcony looking through a tree.

    • stanrogers

      He has to look you directly in the eye to kill you. Otherwise it just causes a minor bursitis flare-up.

      • Observer

        Hahaha!

      • Joe

        So he’s like Medusa, but with worse hair?

        • Sine qua non

          Not worse-just more moussed (hair.)

          • Peter

            I think that in Dinky Dave’s case, the right would might be “moused”. Or, perhaps, “ratted”?

    • Observer

      Next time they’ll fly the attack dogs in from Clearwater.

    • salin

      Thank you D3, sending virtual hugs, you have given us pics of “progress” when nothing was happening, pictures of decline (the big money donation photos, pulled off the wall and dis-respectably laying on the floor or balanced between the wall and the floor – but no longer on the wall in a place of appreciation for the Huge donations. Now, when family time calls, you still find a way to drop by to capture the big moment. *Sending great appreciation.*

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        KISMET. That’s all I can say.

        • stanrogers

          I prefer Yahtzee.

    • iampissed

      Cost per head averaging not good.

      • salin

        no prob. undoubtedly the regging conducted on the crowd not only paid the rest of the cost, but also scored a surplus. Very sad for the costs of the attendees – mortgage payments, college savings, retirement savings, etc.

    • iampissed

      Did you happen to notice any road cases. Were they marked….just asking.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        They were all inside the fenced enclosure. And me with no wristband…!

    • chukicita

      Thank you for being there!

  • nottrue
  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Just a few more to whet your whistles. The ceremony did take place in the big lot. So there was traffic flowing past through the whole thing. And the parking was clogged for blocks.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f6328d5a5638c7543767e0e0838ed3089294860ab3b18f9586e77e67286aa1f8.jpg

    • Elegant Mess

      Oh, that poor camera operator, stuck in the cherry picker. They has no shade!

    • Kestrel

      Nice crowd, but they weren’t expecting enough to fill the parking lot.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yep. About a quarter of the lot is sectioned off.

  • nottrue
    • salin

      That’s a lot of bused in peeps. Then again have to run the pic through the “where is the photo shop apparent” filters.

      • Quick empathy

        The love the look for the bad photoshop game! It’s like Where’s Waldo except really easy!

    • Quick empathy

      How many people do you think were there?

    • MarcabExpat

      The applause doesn’t sound like very many people…

    • AntoniaW

      I think that the demographics are interesting. If we count grey heads, balding heads & bald heads, how many others fill the space? Hat people are cheating but must be assumed to be balding, or they wouldn’t need to cover their delicate scalps.

  • Kari Harris

    If a couple adopts a child, they have to submit an application and undergo an extensive background check. If someone were to release information about how Marty covered up a situation during his tenure at COS, if he were to be arrested and get a felony on his record, and his crime was before the adoption application, it can be questioned in court and said child taken away. It may be blackmail, Ray *could* use that in the former lawsuit, but ultimately, the child could still be taken away with Ray trying to assist. I’m not claiming to have any special knowledge of this specific situation, nor am I an apologist for Marty (I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate).

    • Ben Franklin

      There are two assumptions attached to this theory, 1) that the agency responsible for handling adoption did not do a satisfactory investigation of Marty before granting adoption 2) that the Church of Scientology is holding some secret explosive evidence against Marty. If there is anything explosive that the church is holding against Marty, don’t you feel like the church would have put that out in public by now. After all the church had been trying every possible way to ruin the guy for years. I agree anything is possible, but, where is the evidence. Why speculate on something like this just based on a personal hunch. What if you are wrong, then what?

      • Kari Harris

        There probably will never be evidence, I can only speculate on behavior/actions/probabilities. And its just a theory, if I’m wrong then I’m wrong. And yeah, I think Dave would double down in a grand master game of Chicken with Marty.

      • Kestrel

        If they throw mud at him from something he did while in scientology, they will get mud on themselves.

        • Ben Franklin

          I am talking about after he left, not when he was still in the Church. I believe that if CoS had anything extremely damaging to Rathbun they would have posted it on one of their smear sites already.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Seems like anything the cult has against Martyr would also implicate them.

    • Robert Eckert

      Except that the adoption was over 3 years before the ending of the case. Nobody has offered an explanation for holding fire for three years.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Good point. Do you know if the adoption was finalized before the they filed their lawsuit?

        • Robert Eckert

          Tony could pin down the dates more precisely but I seem to remember that at the time the adoption was thought to be the motive for *filing* the lawsuit.

        • Robert Eckert

          No I don’t. But it certainly didn’t take four years.

    • Kim O’Brien

      stupid

      • Kari Harris

        How so? Only reason I know about adoption law is that I am adopted and saw what my parents had to go through. Rational thought involves weighing both sides, which you obviously haven’t done

        • Kim O’Brien

          both sides of what ? some imaginary idea in your head that DM is sitting on a lock box full of felonies that Marty did that he has been keeping in said lockbox for years and years , just in case Marty did not drop dead from a heart attack or get in a car accident or have a stroke ..but then met a woman who would actually speak with him , let alone google his name and get into a relationship with , have her fall in love with him ( NO ONE could see THAT coming ) adopt a child and in the middle of a lawsuit and under a court order , violate said court order and threaten Marty with the stuff in the lock box so the adoption will not go through ?

          Yeah , sounds totally like rational thought that involves weighing both sides . Whatever

          • Kari Harris

            Don’t you think that Senor Corn COB has been holding onto info and concocting revenge plans? And trust me, using family to shut people up is the #1 technique used to leverage undue influence. All I’m saying is that its a strong possibility.

            • Kim O’Brien

              all i am saying is that just because you can imagine it , that does not make it a ” strong possibility ” to anyone other than yourself or anyone else who decides to just imagine it . kinda like scientology . IMO .

  • Douglas D. Douglas
  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I use my awesome abilities at cognition to postulate many, many balloons.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ae99fee4c39377882908ef83af8748278100ef7091134cc293457bdc12da5acc.jpg

    • salin

      Dang, D3, you got pretty close. Seems their confront/disperse of SP viewers tech was pretty weak today. Or – you just are so awesome that they couldn’t detect your presence.

      • stanrogers

        The trick is to wrap a towel around your head. Like the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, they assume that if you can’t see them, they can’t see you either.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yes, I am just that awesome.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Balloon Tech, Shrub Tech and cult curb monitors…sounds like a whole lot of fun!

      Was his royal tinyness there to lead the traditional group ribbon yanking ritual?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        You bet! With Her Royal Governess right in there.

    • iampissed

      Well at least they weren’t metallic, I’ll give them that.

      • daisy

        I thought metallic ones were better ( cannot remember exactly why – maybe birds do not swallow them as easily ,do less harm to wildlife ) I do not buy rubber ones anymore , I am a girl of my convictions , just cannot remember what those are ?!

        • iampissed

          Hey daisy…your fun. To be honest a ballon release is a bad idea no matter the type.
          The metallic ones can do bad to power lines the rubber ones are just pollution.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Go Oregon Ducks!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    There was actually a pretty decent crowd. But what else is there to do on a Sunday afternoon in the Valley???

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a4415aaf4b935908aff1fa1393d3937f26d53e3d4d8bc437990f6865498ec80.jpg

    (Oh, and they bussed people in from all over the place, too.)

    • Observer

      About how many buses would you say disgorged Scientologists from afar?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I have no idea. I was in and out– hiding in plain sight mostly.

    • They’d better have had a crowd after all that regging and bleeding of bank accounts.

    • MarcabExpat

      In the video newiga posted, it looks as though DM is up against the front of the building, and the audience is across the street. Is that right, or am I misreading it?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Across the street. In my video you can see cars passing behind the speaker stand.

        • MarcabExpat

          Wow, great work. Thanks for playing hooky!

  • And now L.A. is cleared for sure! Nothing can stop ’em now! Straight up . . . and . . . vertical? Anyone? Personality test? Please? Bottled water? Wanna use the rest room? What? Oh, the gas station’s over there . . .

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Must share one little story and then I must go. Running late now.

    I was on the sidewalk with all the uptone people with wristbands. Feeling very out of place– long wig, ratty cap, tattered jacket. Basic homeless attire. And a snappy looking guy in a crisp black suit comes striding toward me, glances down, stops in his tracks and picks something up from off the ground. As I pass him, I see it is a partially smoked cigarette. He smartly taps on the end of it and tucks it into the pocket of his suit jacket! This is true!

    • salin

      *standing ovation* both for the blend in to the background costume, and for the orally shared anecdote – well dressed dude (by the action guessing a staffer in best duds – scoring by capturing a partially smoked cigarette (how sad).)

      • Liberated

        Wow, an OT….cause over matter- energy-space – and cigarette butts!

    • Quick empathy

      Bravo, bravo!!!!

    • iampissed

      Rental.

    • MarcabExpat

      Amazing, amazing story. Sums up the day, really.

      (and your description of yourself sounds as though you raided the Hubbard Collection for Blending In and Being Totally Inconspicuous. Very well done!)

    • Quick empathy

      Ok I’m adding to that bookstore. We will provide items that appeal to tourist, local and even scientologist! DM bobbleheads, caffeine gum(for the sea org members that never sleep), exact replica of Freedom Medal of Valor that Tom Cruise received, postcards showing empty buildings, streets and eyes of scientologists. Oh and this just in…..Half smoked cigarettes imported from Tampa!!!!!

    • Ella Raitch

      Breathtakingly fabulous anecdote SMDH

    • John Prince

      Such a poignant,moving tale…(sniff) Queerwater sounds like the best Solution to me..no need to scrounge half-smoked butts off the sidewalk with so many shisha lounges and Free Clove cigarrettes everywhere.. thanks for this sad glimpse into the secret, head-shakingly Pathetic life of a scibot, though, makes ME feel all warm and cozy inside at least,hearing how desperate these sorry bastards really are!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Getting the fisheye from movie goers around me. I am NOT one of those guys who use the phone during the movies. Radio silence… now.

    • iampissed

      Thank the whatever you like that ya are.

  • Observer
  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • FredEX2

      I just spent 10 minutes counting each person in the photo and I came up with 387 people…~I rounded up a little to allow for the people that are inside. Interesting there was a yellow ‘caution’ ribbon instead of a red one this time. Sounds like fun was had by all there…including the safe-pointed LAPD Deputy Chief Green who spoke to the crowd of millions.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        What are the chances that Green carpooled to the event with Danny Masterson? SMH

      • iampissed

        My estimation was about 250, looked like a quarter shot. 250 * 4.

      • chukicita

        Crime scene tape yellow.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          (involuntary snort) Crime scene indeed, if these fools only knew!

    • Quick empathy

      Well lookie there LAPD rears it’s ugly again supporting scientology.

    • Quick empathy

      Looks like a crowd scene from the Walking Dead!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Looks like a going-out-of-business sale at an old Montgomery Ward store.

        • JaxNGold

          Montgomery Ward…lol!

    • iampissed

      Strike is always quick.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    No one at the meeting with Miscavige thought it was necessary to ask who would do the construction and would scientology pay wages for its members involved in construction compliant with US wage and hour laws. It’s a forgone conclusion that Sea Org members will be working on and in the renovated Cleveland St businesses. The city government of Clearwater is setting itself up to become a part of one of the biggest scandals involving Scientology since 1977. The more Sea Org members involve themselves with the actual public, the more likely questions will be asked. The architects and construction companies at that meeting should be asked what they would do if they were told that minors were working on their project late at night, without pay.

    I am so f’ng tired of the cowardice of public and private officials who continue to help create the myth that Miscavige and scientology are legitimate. I will lump scientology public in with them. These people know that their “church” is destroying the lives of minors, and they do nothing. A time is fast approaching when their silence and inactivity will shame them and their friends for years to come.

    • PeaceMaker

      Don’t forget about their foreign workers – some of whom are illegal – who will surely be put on Scientology’s construction projects. I wonder if it is also legal to put them on work that takes jobs away from Americans.

      Human trafficking is likely to be another of their big scandals. I wonder if the new season of Aftermath will cover that…..

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Great point that needs to be addressed! Slave labor should not be condoned for a variety of good reasons.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Quick empathy

      That makes me want to cry! And I’m not a crier! How could anyone think it is acceptable to put anything before family? Lara I hope your Mom wakes up and realizes that her relationship with you is more important than scientology.

    • ExCult.Jan

      So sad that birthday wishes to your Momma sound more like a eulogy.

  • Took this photo about 20 minutes ago, with real camera. Still learning.

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    • Observer

      :-O

      • Love your HowdyCon shoop with Cathy, btw!!

        • Observer

          Thank you!

          • Jimmy3

            I love it more than Dodo does.

            • Observer

              It’s nice to know I have the poultry vote.

            • daisy

              LOL

            • Jimmy3

              The poultry hex is no laughing matter

          • ExCult.Jan

            I love it more than Dodo times J3.

    • iampissed

      Friends are wonderful.

    • MarcabExpat

      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Blissful.

    • outraged

      DSLR? I have one sitting in a camera bag for a YEAR! It belonged to my dad and I need to document two paintings I want to enter in an art show. And I am a photographer, and a computer person, and very left brain, but have NOT got the guts to use that EOS.

      I did do something today I feared and put off for months. Hmmmm….that turned out easier than I thought….hmmm…you are inspiring me. :-}

      I love the photo. Particularly the vertical fence line down the left, the sunset/smoke stack (?) across the bottom and then creamy blue sky filling the rest. Very nice composition and colors but yet off balance enough to make it compelling. A bit of pathos with a dash of light.

    • Nice.

  • Jimmy3

    I knew it. Someone put a hex on me. Which one of you did it?

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Probably me. I’m always doing shit wack af.

    • Observer

      I’m gonna guess fly.

      • Jimmy3

        Last time I felt like this was after I lit a bag of dog poop on fire outside a gypsy tent. She put the poultry hex on me

        • Observer

          That explains a few things

          • Jimmy3

            I need to know whether it is turkey or chicken to reverse it

            • Observer

              Can’t help you there.

            • daisy

              Why can*t you do fentanyl like normal people.

            • Dead funny.

            • daisy

              iswydt

            • iampissed

              As Dodo said.

            • JaxNGold

              Lol

        • picture of pile of shit – steaming.
          Love dumb person. Happy Sunday
          J3

    • 🙂 Keep guesking

    • Vaquera
    • Kestrel

      The “yogurt” kicking in? It could be a long night.

    • Ben Franklin

      Nah. I think it is just the aftermath of St Patrick’s day

      • Jimmy3

        Are you a doctor or a gypsy?

    • OOkpik

      I am Spartacus.

    • It was one of those Big Beans.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rg0Z520ZVw

    • FredEX2

      Fly did it…he went that way 👉

  • chukicita

    Jeff Jacobsen has kindly put up some research from the mid-90s taken mostly from local news items about the first 20 years or so of Scientology’s occupation of Clearwater: http://clearwaterisscrewed.blogspot.com/2017/03/a-history-of-clearwater-scientology.html

  • PeaceMaker

    The information that the CofS wants the parcel of land next to the Oak Cove for a luxury hotel, presumably another “build it and they will come” project they hope will serve new whales and celebrities, is very interesting.

    I wish now that I had hopped on this first thing this morning, and hope this hasn’t already been asked, but are there any relatively recent reports, about just how much they are utilizing the Oak Cove and their hotel/motel properties in Clearwater? I’ve seen claims that the Oak Cove is mostly empty, which would be expected if traffic is falling as everything else declines, but I wonder if there are any firsthand accounts available. I have also wondered if Scientology provides Clearwater or the state of Florida with guest occupancy information or at least gross lodging revenues when they pay taxes on their commercial operations, and what those numbers look like over the last few years.

    • Ha ha ha, PM, I’d rather sit home and see the Valley Opening fail or the LRH best friend fail. What you talkin about PeaceMaker? So glad you had a ‘normal Sunday’. We here in gettin out of no-where land can’t otherwise answer your question. ((Humf))

    • I did listen/watch the most of it… interesting. Nice to sit back here and not be taken (or maybe I am. At least I’m looking with my eyes wide open 🙂 )

    • Sunny Sands

      Their gross revenues would be reported when they file and pay sales tax to the State. Gross revenues would give an indication of occupancy rate, but, unfortunately, those numbers are not public.

      • PeaceMaker

        Sunny, thanks. It looks like Pinellas County has their own Tourist Development or “bed” tax, too.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    The LAFD showed up to kiss the CO$’s ass too? UGH!
    BTW – The Northridge earthquake was in 1994!
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    • MemeticTheory

      “All my hard work,” eh?

      I must assume the fire department called out Jennifer Susan by name 23 years later for her valiant touch assist volunteerism.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Magic hand? SMH
    “But officer, that wasn’t what she said it was. It was my magic hand. I’m a Scientologist!”
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    • grundoon

      There’s also the Thetan Hand, but that’s confidential. (HCOB 16 SEPTEMBER 1978 ISSUE III, NOTS 31, by L. Ron Hubbard.)

      One day Jesse Prince, a highly trained OT, demonstrated the power of the Thetan Hand. He was picketing along with Bob Minton when a car full of OSA operatives drove by to stalk and harass them. This is their success story:

      Now this time there was a brave OT 8 with them, Gerard Renna! Jesse was truly impressed by this show of force and waited like a fan of Michael Jackson in the middle of the road to see a star. Well, Gerard displayed true OT abilities and rolled down his window to engage his fan waiting in the road for him. What happened next is the stuff dreams are made of. Jesse, being an ex OT himself, employed some little known but often used L Ron Hubbard OT tech peculiar to NED for OT’S. He used the “Thetan Hand Technique”. To mere mortals and Wogs it looked like Jesse slapped the dog-shit out of Gerard! But to those of us that have gone up the “Bridge to Total Freedom” we knew the real deal. In an instant Jesse had saved Gerard at least $20,000, clearing away pesky BT’s and Clusters that otherwise would have to be reckoned with at great expense.

      The “Thetan Hand Technique” is yet another of LRH’s brilliant discoveries for handling BT’s and Clusters that just won’t listen. The procedure is as follows: You run across a recalcitrant BT or Cluster that does not respond to “Who are you? What are you.” You’ve tried to date/locate to no avail. You scream “Get out! Get out you fuckers”, as piloted by Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard in Creston, CA (similar to Las Palmas?) just when Ron was almost done losing his mind. In these extreme cases, the only cure is “Thetan Hand”. This is an extreme technique only to be used when all else fails or patience is lost.

      To say the least, this was a brilliant stroke and the drive by protest was ended on that whack. Afterward Jesse commented that he really didn’t know he had it in him to execute Ron’s tech so brilliantly. Bob and Jesse deserve major commendation awards for their commitment to tech. What could have ended a boring day proved once again, with L Ron Hubbard aboard as Commodore, that anything can happen.

    • grundoon

      The “magic hand” quote is from “Is It Possible To Be Happy?” – a sappy December 1954 blurb by L. Ron Hubbard, reprinted in A New Slant On Life (1965).

      • JJ

        I thought they were against magic hands and you get written up for using your magic hand…esp while thinking about David Miscavige while you do it…?

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Liberated

      Poor girl!

    • Vaquera

      That business card would have been great in tomorrow’s bonus tips.

      • Tony Ortega

        Preach.

    • nunyabidnes

      So, what marketable skills outside of Scientology did you learn in your courses? Can you put that on a resume for a non-Scientology job?

    • FredEX2

      Hey Diane,
      Since you say on your card that ‘you’ll talk to anyone’ for us ‘about anything’…how about you tell everyone in Scientology who have disconnected from their loving parents, siblings, children, other family and friends and loved ones…to “Call Me”…
      F5
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e7af89c98ac181d2d0582fe630a8dfc9fc2a7c2f2efd33cb63cc7ad9d56adb6.jpg

    • grundoon

      Diane Klein the author, who did New OT VIII in 2009? What courses does an OT VIII still need to take?

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Brainwashing is like shampoo. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat…

    • Bob Crouch

      She’s done ONE course and is ready to do ONE more some time soon. And she’s already a “consulting scn” i.e. some kind of expert.

      That sounds a lot like Hubbard whose second-to-none “expertise” rested on imaginary research and diarrhea of the pen and mouth!

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Well….I guess that leaves out the disabled because you have to be “able”. Disgusting.

      • EmmaDaoust

        Which is actually a good thing, because the last thing anyone with any disability needs is Scientology.

    • grundoon

      This is 100% LRH Dissemination Tech.

      THREE METHODS OF DISSEMINATION

      … The three methods are (1) “I will talk to anyone”; (2) Illness researches; (3) Casualty contact. These are the major proven methods of dissemination. There are other methods such as street contact, industrial contact, and the old time psychoanalytic contact, but they are not well proven in use. Auditors seem too shy to accost people on the street; although industrialists show some interest, they seldom show cash; and although the psychoanalytic contact, where one simply sits in an office with a sign outside the door and waits for the flies to walk into the spider web, is very definitely in use in Scientology as it was in psychoanalysis, it still is not successful. It builds a limited and constricted practice without any third dynamic appeal. It does very little good for Scientology.

      No. 1 “I will talk to anyone” … The gist of this plan is to place in newspapers an ad which says, “Personal counselling. I will talk to anyone for you about anything. Phone Rev. So-and-so between hour and hour.” …

      Actually in many cases their problems evaporate in the phone call itself. If the minister simply asks them to repeat the problem several times or asks them what they could do about this. If it is the purpose of the minister simply to solve the problem of the preclear thus phoning, he can of course cancel out his clientele with the greatest of ease. This however is not his purpose. His purpose is to get this individual into a weekly group processing unit…. He should actually undertake, and importantly free of charge, the actual commission of executing the communication. He should not talk to the person in such a way as to ease the problem. This may be the last problem this person has and it would be a disservice to simply solve it as easily as that. One makes something of the problem, not makes nothing of it. (If auditors have any fault it is a one way flow in making nothing out of things instead of occasionally making something out of them.) The minister receiving the call should then credit the fact that this is a pretty big problem and should undertake the commission of completing the communication. He should be interested and alert. He should require a personal interview from the person calling. … Thus at the interview the minister places in the hands of the person material relating to the work of the church group which the minister is actually conducting every Sunday morning. …

      But the main point is to execute the communication of the individual without charge, fee or donation and to get that individual to come to the Sunday morning church group. There he will of course be given an opportunity to join the church at some small membership fee and will be made a part of the group. Of course it stands to reason that any auditor who has a fairly good sized group which is undergoing free processing will get from the group many candidates for (1) personal auditing, and (2) a basic course in Scientology for which charge can be made.

      L. RON HUBBARD – OPERATIONAL BULLETIN NO. 14 – 24 January 1956

      Method 2, “illness researches,” and method 3, “casualty contact” also are quite wonderful.

  • Sunny Sands
    • Ben Franklin

      Wow, they make it look like there were a million people in attendance. Isn’t there a street in front of the Org building?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        They are across the street! There was traffic between Miscavige and the ribbon.

    • Douglas D. Douglas
      • Ben Franklin

        No wonder they don’t allow media in these events because the truth would come out that these events are not attended by thousands and thousands of people as the church claims. Even CoS rarely posts videos of the crowds, instead they prefer photos because they can photoshop the photos.

      • pluvo

        The crowd looks penned-in.

    • Robert Ramsay

      Count the heads it will tell the true story. I would suggest to Dave ( Hi Dave! ) he buy a product called Massive if he want’s to pretend. Good luck.

  • Off topic, again. Trainwreck is the most realistic romantic comedy I’ve seen so far.

    • Liberated

      Wasn’t LeBron James funny?

      • He was! And so everyone else. I laughed, cried a little, cringed and am 25 minutes more to go.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    The Deputy Executive Director at Church of Scientology Inglewood wears a Grant Cardone “I’m committed” bracelet. This joke writes itself…
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    • daisy

      It should say – I need to be committed ( and for longer than 72 hrs.)

      • EmmaDaoust

        She’s on fire!

    • daisy

      Yeah time to be a prick !

    • daisy

      Always good to be reminded to wear a cup , Especially with all the ASC members running around .

    • daisy

      No more events .Does that mean no more Sherman speeches ( sigh of relief by everybody )

    • daisy

      Almost 2 am break time. 10 min everyone .then back to work. Those muffins don*t bake themselves .

    • daisy

      If lost return to – never mind ,dump me in the nearest garbage can. So much fun , i little picture , off to RL again

  • Sunny Sands
    • madame duran

      Oh, dear…it’s that darn Google search again, helping people to get informed. Blasted Internet!!

      • Joe

        Like I always say, it’s amazing how Hubbard in his infinite wisdom neglected to foresee the advent of the Internet. It’s like the Wicked Witch of the West foreseeing everything but a bucket of water.

    • ReallyMGM

      YAY! 🎉 Critical thinking gets through to one.

      ETA: The psychiatry “museum” is on the syllabus of most the health care programs at the mill-degree colleges in LA. The museum’s Instagram account is filled with group photos of the classes. Not only are these kids paying tuition for a useless degree, their so-called qualified instructors call this healthcare.

    • JJ

      Figures the people who most need psychological help are the ones who most refuse to get it…

    • pluvo

      SCIENTOLOGY – An Industry Of Deceit
      – Just came into my mind when reading this.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Observer

      I feel fantastic once I open my eyes in the morning after having them closed all night (once I have my coffee, anyway).

  • Tony Ortega

    Hey, how’s everyone doing. I got sent some cool photos from today’s event in the Valley, but I’ve spent most of the day far from the computer and dealing with various family things. But I can see y’all have been keeping busy, so I appreciate that.

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Oh you SO are lying….you were still nursing a hangover from St. Patty’s Day….I can see your bloodshot eyes from here. It took you this long to crawl home without jaywalking.

      Just kidding…….I think. Actually I think it’s good to get away from your computer and do family things, good for you. It’s a beautiful day here in the Wasatch range, blue skies, temps in the high 70’s, bulbs putting flowers up just in time for our annual April blizzard and hard freeze to kill them all off. Ah, life…..

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Couple of random notes while we wait to eat.

    The very first thing the ceremony started off with was… The 20th Century Fox fanfare. No joke. Followed by the theme from ET the Extraterrestrial(!) and then on to a medley of film music. Because… North Hollywood.

    There were four speakers. Deputy Chief LAPD, Deputy Chief LAFD, an educator and a Rev. Bishop from the Missionary Baptist Church. So it was a star studded event…

    • Robert Eckert

      What are LAPD representatives doing there?

      • madame duran

        Either looking for Shelly Miscavige or Danny Masterson. To bring in for questioning, I’m sure.
        *rolls eyes*

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        They were there to talk about the awesome, awesome contributions that Scientology has made to the community. With a straight face.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Food arriving and now getting fisheye from relatives. PHONE AT THE TABLE!?! Catch you all later.

  • Sunny Sands

    Joy made her final dress selection, and it wasn’t the bandage dress she was considering earlier. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9484792cfeea7974904cac750d17de5c894a7772c8caa161819cacf129080e0d.png

    • Harmless Weirdo

      Pity. I actually thought the bandage dress looked good on her. Then again, she also hadn’t yet put on her usual garish makeup, or thrown on a bunch of random, clashing accessories, so I guess it wouldn’t have mattered. Oh, well.

      That said, the clown outfit she chose was appropriate for today’s circus.

    • daisy

      I count 6 cultures , 3 sexuality symbols and 4 african nations represented. Anybody do any better ? OOps missed one dentist .

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        You are truly hilarious…that really made me laugh…so hard I started coughing and couldn’t stop.

        • daisy

          Thank you. I didn*t lie , I was a bad nurse .I made people choke all the time., usually the wrong drug , but glad to do it this way too.

          • EmmaDaoust

            Hey, we got enough bad nurses (Wettlaufer) making us look bad up here, daisy. Don’t sell yourself short.

            • daisy

              So nice to see you . They voted for Trump nothing makes us look worse ever again.

    • Observer

      No, Joy. no.

    • Vaquera

      The bandage dress was in consideration for last night’s LRH birthday event, but she ultimately chose a green ensemble. The rainbow, flow-y shirt is what she wore to the Valley opening this afternoon.
      (And this concludes my WWD portion of the evening)

    • Quick empathy

      What is that tiny head growing out of her shoulder?

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        OMgosh !!! THAT is funny…I didn’t even notice that !! It’s on her left shoulder…Satan maybe?

        • Quick empathy

          That’s the one who told her that outfit looked good! Hahaha

          • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

            🙂

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Boho Cheap?

      • beauty for ashes

        Did you see all the Louis Vuitton suitcases she has? those things are spensive!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      The full ensemble…(F5) Slick how she slipped the #maga hashtag in there. I underestimated your game, girl.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8db823152a3c29e2c9778d95b8ee54feab0d028db3f920e1d2747212494c5962.png

      • Joe

        Nice dress, who shot the parachute?

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          Laugh

      • JJ

        We can move to Mudville. There is no joy there…

      • beauty for ashes

        That yellow skirt is hideous. It’s scarier than the “Yellow Wallpaper”

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          It looks like a giant doily. Or a tree skirt. The whole technicolor outfit says, “a unicorn just exploded all over me.”

          • beauty for ashes

            The skirt definitely says ickyfuzzed thrift shop curtains. or outdoor bathroom curtains, where one wall is that green fiberglass and has one tine window and that is what the curtain is made of. Nightmarish I’m telling you. This girl’s wardrobe is really a cry for help.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Yes! That skirt could’ve been the bathroom curtains of the house I grew up in circa 1970s!

      • ReallyMGM

        Red carpet reporter: “Joy, Who are you wearing tonight?”
        Joy: “”Trash from the dumpster, held together with colored duct tape.🤑 See my tongue ring?”

    • madame duran

      In case there’s any doubt as to which “church” Joy Villa belongs to…
      Nice image to re-post for Joy’s newest fans during season 2 of Leah Remini’s “Aftermath”.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      I’ve always been both terrified and revolted by clowns, and pics like this one of Joy affect me in exactly the same way.

      • beauty for ashes

        i just finished writing something about that feeling downthread. Also it’s an uh oh somebody’s not okay feeling.

  • Taffy Sinclair

    OMG!! I just realized I own a solid crystal ashtray!!

    It has yet to be screamed at,,, esp. in tone 40 😉

    Should I do it?!?!?!

    Cuz I’m finna do it!!!

  • Kim O’Brien

    If anyone lives in NY and wants to go to Darren’s ( Flying High ) service – his sister posted on Facebook

    The wake will be on Wednesday, March 22nd at the
    Moore Funeral Home
    54 West Jamaica Avenue
    Valley Stream, NY 11581
    (516)825-0036
    Hours will be 2-5pm and 7-9pm

  • Username

    Oh DM… is Joy Villa the new rank and file of Hollywood celebrity? Stacey Francis? Krusty? Your biggest star is on his third marriage and lost custody of his only biological child. How the mighty have fallen. No wonder you want to break camp in Hollywood and fortify Clearwater into what we hope is not the next Jonestown. Scientology… the most dysfunctional cult on Earth.

  • Harmless Weirdo

    Well, however messed up traffic may have been around the Valley Org this afternoon, I think the neighbors can all rest in the assurance that it won’t happen again. Now that Valley’s officially an Idle mOrg, it will go back to being as deserted as it’s been for the last six years–just no longer an eyesore, hazard, and attractive nuisance. Having a completed Idle mOrg in one’s neighborhood could almost be seen as an advantage, if you like things reeeally quiet.

  • Vaquera
    • Joe

      This totally made me read her Wikipedia page.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Patsy is one of my all-time faves.

      • Robert Ramsay

        Don’t forget K.d.Lang

        • Liberated

          Funny you should say that…I’m watching an old Roy Orbison concert from the 80’s and k.d. is singing back-up. I love her voice, one of the best voices working….haven’t seen her much lately though.

          • Robert Ramsay

            Brunswick house/toronto ….alberts hall 1980 ..ish. the band had set up and
            left the stage. girl in a pleated skirt / cow boy boots walked up on
            stage …no one else. she started to sing and the hackles went up on the
            back of my neck. I’ve never forgotten it.

            • ReallyMGM

              And people question my sanity when I go to concerts every weekend. Some are big names, but usually not. Most are older or coming up.
              I’m so glad my mom forced me when I was in Jr High out of the house one night to go to a concert with my friends saying, “Go to that concert, the tickets are free!” Ray Charles was awesome.
              I am pretty certain the first real concert I ever went to.

            • Liberated

              Your mom sounds pretty cool.

            • ReallyMGM

              She is. Examples of her coolness:
              1) Literally saved me and my brother’s lives.
              2) Called me at 11 pm on a Saturday night last year screaming, “Turn on PBS RIGHT NOW. Tell me who this is and all about him.”
              It was was Joe Bonamassa playing the Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks concert. She is a Joe groupie.

            • EmmaDaoust

              And the Brunny is turning into a Rexall drug store.

          • Vaquera

            I saw her sing back up with Orbison in NOLA in the ’80s. Also saw her warm up for for Dwight Yoakum at the Hollywood Bowl in ’88. She killed it and I felt poorly for Dwight that he had to follow such a powerhouse.

            • Robert Ramsay

              🙂 Hallelujah

            • ReallyMGM

              Buckley’s will always be my favorite. Hers is exceptional, too.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              In my mind, his is the definitive version.

            • ReallyMGM

              I like about everything Buckley did. Even the weird bootlegs.

            • Liberated

              You know what’s funny, people have been talking about Patsy Cline tonight, wasn’t it you? I love her voice too, both she and k.d. have such natural uncomplicated voices, it just seems to flow out with no effort at all.

              I either read this or saw k.d. on charlie rose when she compared her singing to that of Patsy’s and said she thought she was Patsy Cline in a past life.
              For real.

            • ReallyMGM

              Natural, uncomplicated voices.
              Patsy Cline was in the days before Autotune, backing traclks, Pro Tools and the rest of the digital technology to make everything perfect. By the time K. D ca,e along audio engineering had come a long way, but she didn’t need the “help” so many need.
              Last week I heard the isolated vocal tracks of Grace Slick on “White Rabbit” and it was incredibly good. Very pure, uncomplicated, too.

        • ReallyMGM

          Her duet with Roy Orbison is one of the best. Two great voices, together.
          Changing video, hope it works.
          https://youtu.be/vmisOxCHEiw

      • John Prince

        Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran,Richie Valens,the Big Bopper. .Patsy Cline sure checked out in Good Company, didn’t She?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      The first time I got my heart broke I’d ride my mountain bike to an abandoned train station and listen to Patsy on my discman (remember those) and lay in the sun between college classes. There would always be a tramp(rail road) drinker hangin’ out.

  • denise

    Anyone interested in seeing the Theatre production of “Squeeze My Cans” should check out the Stageworks Production in Tampa Bay coming up March 30th thru April 2nd.. This is a hilarious and scary portrayal of one persons experience in Scientology. Here is the link for tickets and further info

    http://stageworkstheatre.org/event/squeeze-my-cans/

  • Gib

    Dianetics and Scientology from day one after publication of the Original Dianetics book has been bait and switch.

    The last line in Dianetics is something like “better build a bridge”

    Nothing DM says to the CC is true, suckers.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Clearwater, FL — Not much info on this one yet, but according to authorities, 23-year-old Alex David Pagan was taken into custody Wednesday afternoon after he called police and reported that he had tried to have sex with a 4-year-old girl.

    Police say Pagan was babysitting the 4-year-old girl and a 3-year-old boy when the alleged incident occurred. Pagan reportedly told police that he became aroused after walking in on the girl as she was using the restroom. He said he then attempted to have intercourse with the child, but was unsuccessful. The relationship between Pagan and the children is unknown at this point.

    After investigating his claim, police arrested him on a charge of attempted capital sexual battery on a child under the age of 12. Thanks again, Dakota.…
    Edit; Any clam ties?

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    We need some Jedi to head for Clearwater.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi7KPDi_yQI

    • beauty for ashes

      I trust you this is awesome, so I upvoted you.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I thought it was awsome! Maybe it will help bleach out the bad memories for those who went through the Bohemian chairs in the hole.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Boy, 10, Fatally Shoots Self After His Mother Sent Him To His RoomJanuary 6, 2017 at 10:54 pm by Morbid

    CLEARWATER, FL – A 10-year-old boy died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound after he got into trouble with his mother and was sent to his room.

    According to reports, Ian Sevostjanov was getting ready for school Thursday morning when his mother disciplined him for a “behavioral issue.”

    After arguing with his mother, he was sent to his room where he used a gun to fatally shoot himself.

    Ian was pronounced dead at the scene despite first responders doing “everything they could” to save him, said Clearwater Police Chief Dan Slaughter during a news conference Thursday morning.

    Authorities were initially vague about what transpired in the apartment Ian shared with his parents and brother, but now say the boy’s death is being investigated as an apparent suicide.

    Police are still investigating Ian’s death and determining how he got his hands on the family’s gun.

    “We’re trying to definitely approach this taking care of all our responsibilities, while also being respectful that there’s an emotional trauma that’s occurred,” said Slaughter.

    He went on to add that this should serve as a lesson to gun owners that they need to ensure firearms are not within easy reach of children.…
    Edit; Jan 2017

    • abdaman

      🙁

    • John Prince

      The Chief of Police in Queerwater is named “Slaughter”? isn”t that a little. . you know. .. (what’s the Word i’m looking for? ..my English is really slipping here! 😵)

    • Graham

      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Was this family part of a well regulated militia? What well regulated militia fails to instruct its members about gun safety? “Well regulated”: wise words which seem to have been forgotten.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    This pig is a fucking disgrace!

    “Deputy Chief Green began by pointing to the need for lectures on drug education, domestic violence and gang awareness and how Valley Scientologists have been pivotal in creating such initiatives with Clergy Councils and Police Stations throughout the basin.

    ‘Together, we’ve reached at-risk kids and adults with vital intervention and education before they become victims or suspects. And now, we have changed the course of over 25,000 lives across the Valley.’” GAG!

    ETA: They are claiming 5000 in attendance.
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef60aab4568ffceccfff46a2e18b6d7534efc0c5b3ad1df20fd36931d2506a84.png

    • John Prince

      You’re being WAY TOO BENEVOLENT to this Pig, calling him a disgrace 💩💩💩💩
      fucking scilon in a police uniform, is it any wonder why it’s impossible to get the LAPD to move on the clampire? LAPD IS co$ in disguise 🤓

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Living the faith? What a joke!
        “You are not only forging a public trust, but you are safeguarding our future. And that’s what I call: ‘living the faith.’”

        • John Prince

          he’s probably spearheading the donkey-dan Rape investigations! ..to serve and protect indeed 😠

  • EmmaDaoust

    Cat nap. Sleep well.
    https://youtu.be/psGDf2VrvK8

  • Faux Gibbler

    And this is a non profit church is all that I keep thinking while reading this.

    Also, what is the “ESBM” website?

    • Ben Franklin

      ESMB stands for Ex Scientologist Message Board. It is basically a website forum where people post comments and discuss all things Scientology see: http://www.forum.exscn.net

      • Faux Gibbler

        Gotchya. Thank you.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    What the fuck has this POS been smoking?

    “I know your tenets are based on a core philosophy of helping others and that extends to your level of preparedness,” said Deputy Chief Richmond. “As a non-governmental group you are especially vigilant to
    disaster preparedness and crisis management. The community can depend on you, and that’s a big, big deal. In fact, it’s your biggest asset.”
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a086ee0b809c675cc8c4e709216f2403a66e96411aa8831c1ea0fbc840f9dfd.png

    • Faux Gibbler

      What is the ESMB website?

      • Ben Franklin

        check your previous comment, I already answered the question there.

        • Faux Gibbler

          😲🤣👍

    • 4 ribbons?

    • Graham

      Did this safe-pointed moron actually see the “forty truckloads” or is he just parroting what the Scieno’s told him? He has the smile of a man who has just been handed a nice fat brown envelope full of Benjamins.

    • pluvo

      As a non-governmental group you are especially vigilant to disaster preparedness and crisis management

      What the hell is he talking about? He is indirectly minimizing the work of governmental groups. Does he read from Scio script? What an idiot – or he got a big check and has to flatter.

    • Snuzey

      Surely he must be a Scion himself to be putting ‘ness’ on the end of words like that? In which case he will be happy to say whatever they tell him.
      If he isn’t… well the only other option is that it was more like “40 truckloads” of $$ to his bank account thank you very much.
      Fool / wanker (delete as appropriate)

  • Faux Gibbler

    And David M would urge Scientologists to shop in area???

    And what if DM don’t get his way? He could “encourage” to not shop there.

    I hate this cult.

  • Dave Reams

    I don’t understand why Dave wants to keep the Scientology whales in the Clearwater Aquarium. Wouldn’t it be easier to keep them on the Freewinds?

  • Faux Gibbler

    Next they’ll be running for government positions. Remember in the 80’s or 90’s when that one cult tries poisoning a whole town because one of their members was running for office?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Baghwan Shree Rajneesh. In Oregon.

  • Spike Robinson

    Great article, as usual, but that first photo, the one of David Miscavige, is all wrong; here’s a correction for you: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/884ca8fcf17a62a581e43f227824af7c808aa33bbbf33a13b2eb3f72f3acec81.jpg

  • SunTrx

    Wow, you can get in trouble for a lot if you are a scientologist…and looks like you can send in an e-form to report somebody. (e-snitching)
    http://www.rtc.org/matters/