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Welcome to your Scientology nightmare, people of Clearwater, Florida

[Scientology funder and gladhander Jim Mathers welcomes you to the future]

 
Rod Keller fills us in on the latest tug of war between the residents of Clearwater and the Church of Scientology…

On February 6, commissioners for the City of Clearwater, Florida approved the “Imagine Clearwater” plan for the downtown waterfront district. The plan calls for the demolition of City Hall and the Harborview convention center, reworking the waterfront into a concert and event venue. The 50-year-old Harborview has been an eyesore for many years and has failed the original purpose as a convention center. Officials claim that City Hall is unsuitable for its purpose, being too small to house all city departments and too expensive to maintain. Rather than rebuild on the same site officials are leaving the downtown area and building a new City Hall elsewhere.

 

 
In 2013 a referendum passed to redevelop the entire site as the new home of the Clearwater Marine Aquarium which had experienced a boom in the aftermath of the movie Dolphin Tale, based on the story of Winter the dolphin who is on display at the aquarium. Scientology began working behind the scenes to oppose the plan and in 2015 the aquarium decided not to pursue that location. Scientology offered to purchase parts of the property in 2016 to develop additional hotel facilities, but that offer was not accepted.

The plan concerns itself with the blocks East of Osceola Avenue, between Drew and Court Streets to the North and South.

 

 
What the plan doesn’t really emphasize is that the parcel is surrounded by the Scientology buildings and properties that make up the “Flag Land Base,” the “spiritual mecca” of Scientology, which arrived in Clearwater surreptitiously in 1975.

In this view, with north at top, the area that the city wants to redevelop is on the left, near the bridge, and you can see that it’s surrounded by Scientology’s key properties, including the Fort Harrison Hotel and Flag Building, as well as the Skyview, a private condominium project whose double penthouse is reportedly being developed for Tom Cruise so he can live right in the middle of Scientology’s mecca.

 

 
Scientology spokesman Ben Shaw told the Tampa Bay Times this week that despite Scientology’s offer on the properties, Scientology has no plans to expand in downtown, which is provably untrue. Funds are being raised for L. Ron Hubbard Hall, a space to hold Scientology’s events and a museum to the founder.

 

 
The plans include an open space, seen here in front of the Hall on the right and the Flag building to the left. The open space will feature 21 monoliths representing the 21 precepts of the booklet The Way to Happiness by L. Ron Hubbard, and a globe representing planetary clearing, which is the stated purpose of Scientology, to become the dominant philosophy on Earth. The planned site is between Court and Franklin Streets west of Fort Harrison Ave. Scientology also holds property north of the Sandcastle that could be developed into more hotel space for visiting Scientologists.

A Scientology magazine predicted that by the year 2000 Clearwater would be recognized as the first Scientology city. Many years later that prediction is coming true. The church is planning a large event hall, it owns numerous hotels, restaurants, an energy plant, parking garages, warehouses, a fleet of buses and vans, apartment complexes and condominium towers. It has a large security force, it operates schools and tutoring centers. There are Scientology doctors, dentists, chiropractors and a new drug rehab center.

 

 
At the same time as City Hall is relocated from the downtown area, city officials believe they can ignore the Scientology dominance and revitalize the district. From the Tampa Bay Times:

Still, none of the five City Council members said they believe Scientology’s substantial presence is a relevant factor in strategizing for revitalization or recruiting private investment. If the city can reshape downtown’s waterfront into a viable attraction, they say, the business community will follow.

“We’re trying to draw people downtown regardless of the elephant in the room,” said council member Hoyt Hamilton. “If you put the right project down there, people are going to come no matter what.”

This is far from the first plan for the waterfront area. Before the aquarium plan was conceived, an abandoned 2004 plan for the area proposed building a monorail to connect downtown with the popular Clearwater Beach tourist areas. These plans fail because Scientology works behind the scenes to oppose them and because Scientology creates an unwelcoming area without shops and restaurants open to the public.

If the Imagine Clearwater plan fails and the concert venue becomes the next white elephant for downtown Clearwater, there is only one party poised to bail them out and purchase more land along the waterfront – the Church of Scientology. The church’s plan is to oppose downtown revitalization, to continue expansion, and to cement Clearwater’s status as the first Scientology city.

 
— Rod Keller

 
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HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,661 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,258 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,298 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,010 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 477 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,595 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,765 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,085 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,060 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 416 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,718 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 825 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,227 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,100 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 681 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,186 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,430 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,539 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on February 12, 2017 at 07:00

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The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Congrats Joy for using Scientology and Trump as a vehicle to a stardom.
    You are famous now. Proceed wisely.

    • outraged

      yeah, well, screw her. lol

    • Frodis73

      She is also trending on twitter. At least we are exposing the sci connection.

      • daisy

        My twitter heroes !!

  • Liberated

    Travolta is on next at grammy’s…….oh boy!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Well isn’t this special? Joy gets a shout out from Milo Yiannopoulos! :O
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ee46b15bd3b24c9ea1519044a85c7603f3f49ca7adfc5f1a2d89d943a6cb73a1.png

    • Harmless Weirdo

      Oh, ew. Given the choice between catching gonorrhea or being praised by that neo-Nazi piece of shit, I’ll take burning piss any day. At least it’s treatable.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Why the hell is Travolta at the Grammys?

    • Observer

      He had a singing career in the 70s, unfortunately. I loathed his music.

    • Frodis73

      He said something about a tribute to the Bee Gees.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Yeah but he just introduced Keith Urban who is SP adjacent, isn’t he? Hmm… I’m wondering if the CO$ bought another commercial spot tonight.

    • Jimmy3

      They’re honoring Saturday Night Fever Dream II: The Massage

    • Liberated

      They’re going to be honoring The Bee Gees and Saturday night fever.

  • Frodis73

    JT is hitting the plastic surgery too much. His eyes re barely open.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Geez, don’t they rehearse with the announcers to make sure they can read the teleprompter?

  • aurora50

    Anything ‘meta’ about Travolta introducing Keith Urban?

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Joy Villa is a dedicated Scientologist and we in the Church of Scientology approve of her Trump dress. We in Scientology also believe in making America great again by freeing Americans of their Reactive Minds. Accordingly, the State of Clear is on sale for only $190,000 when you use the code GrammySpecialClear at your local Ideal Org.

    • Observer

      Are there additional discounts if I were to, say, show up in the courseroon in a Trump dress?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Yes, if you showed up in a Trump dress you would get the SRD for 50% off.

        • chukicita

          Lace up!

    • Ben Franklin

      Trump is a walking demo of the reactive mind. Twitter is his outlet.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Sounds like you’re a hater who doesn’t want to make Scientology great again.

        • Ben Franklin

          I was under the impression that Scientology’s only goal is to make “me” great again. You know, the Operating Thetan that I once was. What’s up with all these distractions? Does LRH know about this?

  • Edward Whalley

    I’d like to start a “WOG Tour of Clearwater”. It would be for WOGs only, of course, and this would be written (in big goofy letters) on the jitney. Having a few dozen gawking tourists several times a week, walking through, and taking pictures of, all these lovely, wonderful buildings would probably drive them to distraction, as would the problem of avoiding/disseminating/explaining themselves every time someone with a Hawaiian shirt and a camera shows up. Nothing worse than what people do with the Amish; all above board and very very respectful….

    Sigh. It would probably be closed down in a week. But still…

    • CK

      Think of all the NDAs they’d have to sign! That and resisting the lure of free stress tests.

      • Edward Whalley

        On which side? I’d have a before tour briefing explaining what they might see.

        “A stress test? How quaint. Is that a real E-meter? Ooh, may I touch it? I bought this e-meter kit….Can you help me with it?”

        “Wow, are you like, Sea Org? Did you ever work for Tom Cruise? ”

        “You’re at the Sandcastle! Neat! What OT are you?”

        And of course “Is it true that…? No, really, you don’t have to lie to *me*, no matter what you’re told…”

        And the hats! The gaudy rice farmer hats!

  • beauty for ashes

    at least we don’t have to cringe at her parts. blerg.

    • daisy

      There are people in underwear , yellow hair and pink tuxedos and still not as bizzare as John T.being himself.

    • chukicita

      She wore the same underwear two years in a row.

      • Keeping Scientology Waning

        Spanx, size OT.

      • beauty for ashes

        I noticed that too 🙁

  • Keeping Scientology Waning

    Guess JT is not cause over Ophthalmology.

    • JJ

      Sad.

  • Ben Franklin

    I am thinking there is no way Jim Mathers can be a vegetarian.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    We at Celebrity Centre International just got an emergency call from Stacy Francis. Stacy has gone Type III because Joy Villa stole the spotlight at the Grammy’s while Stacy got treated like a degraded being by wogs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCw2MHOQ3Z0

    • Observer

      Can’t. Stop. Laughing.

    • madame duran

      Oy.

    • Jo

      Stacey too happy being happy. Never seemed happy, lol.

  • chukicita

    Did Travolta just display on international television that there is no such thing as Clear?

    That he couldn’t *see* the teleprompter? Joking about how large the font is on his phone?

    Clears are supposed to be able to throw away their corrective eyewear.

    • daisy

      I even caught that in my sleep deprived state. They just lie as if they didn*t know that facts can be checked. I just do not get that

    • CK

      Since he’s OT VIII, what comes next? The bullshit plaques?

    • Jimmy3

      It was supposed to be a joke to make light of his previous presenting flubs, IMO. Seems obvious but I dunno how many picked up on it

      • daisy

        Oh Jimmy you are my hero, I didn*t know that.See how easy it is to admit to valuing the truth of a statement even though I clearly wanted JT , to look like the ass he is. See how easy that is OSA.

      • chukicita

        I’m sure Adele Dazeem was all ears.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Hey grammys, a second celeb has to admit he can’t read your prompter? Come on. Fix the damn thing. You’re lookin real bush league.

    • CK

      He said he forgot his glasses.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        A second younger announcer couldn’t read it either

      • PerpetualOutflow

        There’s no excuse. All they have to do is increase the font size, and they should know that ahead of time for each announcer.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Jimmy3

      LOL

  • Sunny Sands

    I was going to leave a comment about Joy Villa at The Hollywood Reporter, but they closed comments on the article about 45 minutes after they posted it. It seems the topic is too hot for THR to handle.

  • Jimmy3

    What is this shit. It feels like Enya has kidnapped my brain

    • CK

      Haha. I was just reading my TV Guide description. “Excellence in the recording industry.” Says who?

    • TexasGirl

      If I knew what Enya was all about I would agree with you. I thought it was kind of awesome. If you’re into that kind of thing.

  • Keeping Scientology Waning

    Was that a song?

    • Jimmy3

      Enya’s ghost ninja clan just invaded our collective cerebellum and no one will complain because Beyoncé is hot

      • Jo

        Ninja’s singing quietly, sail away, sail away.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    How long until Kuba Ka starts claiming that Beyonce stole his act for the Grammys?
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f19c9db20d14116400f2cf8f1bb114487a13f8149cc30ac26900dc933a48824.png

    • Frodis73

      3,2,1

  • JJ

    Opening a Scientology: The Happiest Religion On Earth Center in Clearwater when there are more people leaving the CofS than joining it seems a bit…late? If they wanted to get in on that ‘bring your family to the show and rides and food on a stick’ explosion that is theme parks, they should have started in the eighties.

    Will now take submissions for Scientology theme park rides:

    Ride and Lose: centrifugal toboggan guaranteed to make your wallet fly outa your pocket.
    Psychiatry House of Horrors: A ride so terrifying you’ll never take aspirin again and will go home and throw away all you q-tips and Vicks vapor rub.
    Couch-coaster: Scariest roller coaster ever. You sit down and don’t go anywhere but images of Tom Cruise leaping about hysterically, with sound track, play in 3-D wrap around.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    CO$ commercial just aired in LA.

    • CK

      Was it the Super Bowl ad?

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I think so but it was so short that it was almost over before I realized what it was. Total waste of money.

        • daisy

          Oh no , it was totally worth it for us.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            I was hoping for a MAGA tagline at the end 😉

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Scientology scores again with our Grammy ad! Thank you COB!

    • daisy

      Oh I missed it Sir. I will go to the flea ridden trailer myself. No need to send someone with me.

  • Frodis73

    The die hard MAGA folks are proving once again they are cult members by some of the nasty comments online. I for one am totally shocked.

    • Ella Raitch

      They are just wetting themselves over this dress. It’s kinda sad.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I’d like to see their faces when they find out that a $cientologist was wearing it.

        • Ella Raitch

          I’m doing my best on twitter 🙂

          Wanting to hear the sound of pennies dropping

          • madame duran

            Pride will keep them from acknowledging their error. I’m pretty sure the vast majority of those buttkissers will not support her music career. Joy will use the Grammys for attention-seeking; Trump supporters will use her for a petty political point. Monday will come and everyone will forget about her as they start another work week. SMP will still be empty.

        • madame duran
          • Intergalactic Walrus

            DRUDGE headlining THR article and her photo resulted in their comment section being overrun with Trump fanatics. Everywhere else the reaction is totally different. Even most ardent Trump supporters do not support the CO$. I can’t wait for her cult connection and commercial to get exposure and the sh#t to literally hit the fan. Hehe

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Hope that happens sooner rather than later. Would hate for this to give the $cieno criminal enterprise any undue sympathy within the Trump Administration.

      • Frodis73

        It was a smart move on her part that is for sure. I wonder how sincere she is, she one of the sci’s I would have guessed did not back trump. They are bragging about buying her stuff. Lol, they might want to listen to her first though. She is beautiful, but she is not that great of a singer imo.

  • nottrue

    Scientology Ad 6:10 PST during Grammys.. Los Angeles ..Same as Super Bowl

    • CK

      Such majestic, sweeping music for the world’s most hollow org.

  • Evey Hammond

    Joy Villa at the Grammy Awards Making America Gag Again. On Facebook, none of the commenters knew who she was. Or, they made fun of her. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grammy-awards-a-pro-trump-statement-red-carpet-974968

    • Evey Hammond

      Late to the party, but I had to say something

    • Jo

      Mad bow tech, again.

    • TexasGirl

      If it wasn’t for this forum I wouldn’t know who she is either. I seriously don’t know how she makes it to the red carpet at the Grammys.

  • Tony Ortega

    At 10 pm Eastern (a half hour from now), I’ll be going live on the Jim Paris radio show. I don’t know what to expect. I think this is the site… http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jameslparis

    • daisy

      Should we expect more media lies ?

    • BlueHeronBay

      Mr. Paris and Co. seem to be….um…very supportive of the current Administration:
      http://www.talkstreamlive.com/
      ETA: Good luck.

  • aurora50

    It’s a little surreal watching the current Grammy set (not sure who they are…I’m feeling SO old) with images of flooding, whilst on my laptop is live streaming of the Oroville Dam in imminent collapse…those poor folks trying to evacuate…

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Finally, some REAL MUSIC!

    • CK

      The ol’ BB King staple. Have seen Gary Clark live a few times; one of the few genuinely talented artists tonight.

      • chukicita

        William Bell wrote that song, and it was Albert King who recorded it.

        • CK

          Albert King; you’re right. I knew that.

          • chukicita

            ‘S ok.

  • daisy

    Beyonce you are a goddess and I rarely listen to you sing.

  • chukicita

    Full potential ad just ran in Tampa Bay market.

  • Sarcasmo

    Joy Villa in Trump inspired dress at Grammy Awards. Lot’s of comments saying things like “I’d stop listening to her music, but I don’t know who she is.”

  • Observer
    • Ella Raitch

      Interesting that he was previously willing to overlook Scientology but no more.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • CK

      What gets people more in a tizzy, that she’s a Scilon or #MAGA?

    • Observer

      And they all believe it. No verification necessary.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        The CO$ is fishing for Trump lemmings. That dress is the bait.

    • Frodis73

      I have not seen one person say anything like that. Not to mention that guy is a freaking scary af total nut job.

    • madame duran

      Nobody is calling for Villa’s death. Opponents are either turned off, laughing at Joy, wondering who the hell she is, or calling attention to her connection to Scientology. These rabid, blodlusty Trumpists are just wishing for something violent to go down.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      The headline was incorrect. What it meant to say that was “Joy Villa Murdered Fashion.”

      • Ben Franklin

        more like “Joy Villa Murdered by Fashion”

    • Harmless Weirdo

      That guy is a complete nutjob.

      I can’t remember where I first read it, but somebody much saner and smarter than this dude said, in effect, “If you want to know what Trump and the alt-right are really up to, and what they fantasize about doing, look at the wrongs and bad intentions they accuse the left of.”

      Or, in short, this dude’s projecting. In friggin’ Cinemascope.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Good that the designer put ‘RUMP’ on the back of the dress so she knew which was the front.

  • Frodis73

    I love Adele. Such a class act just now.

    • CK

      I guess. But for a live show and multiple rehearsals, you’re supposed to run a tight ship.

      • Frodis73

        I am talking about how she handled it. Also, as somebody who has done countless live shows where you are doing the same thing over and over again, shit happens. Sometimes it is your fault and other times it is somebody else. Either way, you can’t control it. It is how you recover that counts.

        • CK

          Fair point.

    • daisy

      My exact thoughts !! Are you listening Mariah , so what if you fuck up admit it and go forward. I am of course talking about the little stuff and the stuff I care about.

  • beauty for ashes

    I just always want to give her a little helpful advice, I can’t help it. Fixt it for you Joy. F5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfebf5b578826c0558cad07cb39940d6d0db3f24bd37511083f86d3de32e497a.jpg

    • chukicita

      Now she looks like she’s trying to be that Conway woman.

      • Observer

        Only less desiccated and terrifying

        • chukicita

          Not a stretch.

    • daisy

      Not bad , you should do one of those fashion critic shows.

      • beauty for ashes

        No too much fashion eats your soul.
        ETA ~ Didn’t you watch ” The Devil Wears Prada?” 🙂

    • Frodis73

      That train wreck is not fixable.

      • beauty for ashes

        I got to the point where I couldn’t take anymore. I should have painted flames on it instead! the top looks like a cheap apron.

        • madame duran

          The top part looks like a piece of an actual flag (the ones that have grommets on the hoist). The dress designer is Andre Soriano in case you cared.

          • beauty for ashes

            That’s the same as all the other ones, right? sounds familiar. Well now she can hoist the dress on a flag pole later and use it like a flag again. Full circle.

            • EmmaDaoust

              With her still in it.

  • CK

    Is Joy Villa the best Co$ can come up with? WTF happened to Beck or Chick Corea?

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Neither Beck nor Chick would wear the dress.

      • Juicer77

        XD

  • Frodis73

    Holy shit if this story is real. I just saw this in my twitter feed. If true, I hope he wins lawsuit against the church. what BS. Esp the pat about visiting is dead father’s grave.

    https://www.gofundme.com/370juxs?rcid=bbbeea24e008419badf36f8d5fd716d9

    • Observer

      Hopefully he’s reported it to the EEOC

    • Liberated

      Yes it’s real…Dice posted it last night.
      Can you believe it?

      • Frodis73

        Yes, no. Lol, you know what I mean. I’d love to hear more of this story. Maybe he will talk with Tony…

    • hmm.. it’s not moving. still looks the same

  • CK

    Fix Hetfield’s mic!

  • madame duran
  • daisy

    The BEE GEES. Yes I am the person who loved disco.

    • Liberated

      Most people do, but most won’t admit to it.

      You are brave!

    • Ben Franklin

      How many times have you danced to this?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

      • daisy

        I haven*t even walked like that in my life. I think I just appreciated the tight pants of the era. we have got to get that back in fashion . Thank you for posting this before I had to listen to the young folk on the tube.

        • Rasha

          …The tight pants explain the high voices…..

          • beauty for ashes

            Hey, is Rasha asleep already? ** poke poke** oops it is pretty late!

      • ReallyMGM

        Damn…I have it in VINYL. I am a relic.

    • beauty for ashes

      “the Barry Gibb Talk Show” theme song form SNL is stuck in my head now. Thanks Daisy. Can I blame you cause I want cookies too?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek5B6ZcfTuY

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • Jimmy3

    Ohhhhh are you seeing this

    • daisy

      YES !!!!! How great is this !! Hey will you walk my duck if I can go to Howdycon ?

      • Jimmy3

        I’d have to see a quack first. I don’t trust he’s really a duck.

        • daisy

          I saw a quack once. He had his license pulled for a short a short while for coming on to his patients. I was hurt, he never tried anything with me.

    • beauty for ashes

      No what?

      • Jimmy3

        Q-Tip just eviscerated Trump on the Grammys

        • beauty for ashes

          damn. prolly can’t summarize then. okay.

        • Ben Franklin

          Q-Tip is still alive?

        • daisy

          What was said ? I was busy talking to this junior pine cone .

  • Jimmy3

    Tribe Called Questioned Your Bullshit On National Television

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • Sibs

    Hehehe, I just saw a post on Facebook from someone who has no interest in $cientology, and just had to run here to ask, “Okay, what did Joy Villa do now?”

    His tweet that posted on Facebook was, “I dunno who this Joy Villa person is, but suffice it to say she supports a fascist and hateful man.”

    • Missionary Kid

      Go and look to earlier posts. Her dress at the Grammys, in big letters stretching vertically, says, “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” and on he hem that covers the floor, again in big letters, “TRUMP”.

      • Rita G

        When she turned around all I saw was RUM…

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I saw RUMP, then noticed there was lettering…

          • Rita G

            When I saw it I thought it was too bad the P was not showing!

      • Ella Raitch

        Nice to see someone’s dragging his name across the floor like a dirty mop

    • Juicer77

      Which one?

  • Dօnald J Trump ✓ ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Believe Me folks, I might have to invite this Joy Villa to the White House, so for once I’ll be able to say …

    ‘I’m not the craziest person in the room’

    … and it will be true.

    • Frodis73

      No Donnie, that will NEVER be true.

      • beauty for ashes

        <3 <3 <3

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Another CO$ commercial in LA, just now! Ugh!

  • Jimmy3

    Adele just double reverse Kanye’d herself??? Beyonce must be getting sick of this

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I think Joy Villa was pitch perfect tonight. It’s the absolute nexus of Scientology, Trumpism, and the Princess herself. A visual celebration of self delusion, narcissism, talentless promotion, wretched excess… and all played out on television and in social media by starry-eyed supporters who HAVEN’T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.

    • Tony Ortega

      It was a genius bit of publicity. She’s showing up everywhere. But then, what does she do with it?

      Are there going to be a wave of stories in conservative media: “Joy Villa tears the lid off of the music industry’s intolerant left!”

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        A big, shiny, empty box that has everyone fawning with adulation. It’s the coin of the realm in this fact-free era.

      • Missionary Kid
      • Rita G

        Over at Huffington Post people are commenting they don’t know who she is. A few tried listening to her music and remarked they were sorry they did.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          She is being “discussed” on Billboard by people who obviously know nothing about her beyond that enchanting dress. It’s so SHINY!

          • Rita G

            A friend (Trump supporter), on FB posted a link about it. So I PM’d my fundamentalist friend and let her know Joy is a scientologist along with a pic of that horrific orange snow fence dress she wore in 2015. Tee Hee. My messages will be interesting tomorrow.

            • Juicer77

              Please, please give us an update when you can. 🙂

            • Rita G

              So far she hasn’t seen it, but I will update when she does. 🙂

        • Frodis73

          A few were bragging on twitter they bought her music and loved it. Lol. We all have different tastes, I get that. Joy just does not have a great voice and her music is boring.

          • Rita G

            Nothing to write home about IMO.

      • J. Swift

        If Joy Villa is to become a conservative hero then they can have her. Seriously, if conservatives embrace Joy Villa then they must embrace her Scientology and Scientology’s relationship with the Nation of Islam. She is like a poison pill or a Mata Hari in a Trump dress.

        This is the Tom Cruise Conundrum: At what point does a Scientology celebrity become a significant liability?

        The minute Joy Villa opens her mouth about L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology she opens the door to the forced abortions in Scientology and Hubbard’s secret teachings about Jesus. Evangelicals and Catholics in the conservative movement will want nothing to do with her.

        • Frodis73

          You would think so, the ones I have been talking to don’t give a damn about the forced abortions or the scientology.

          • Ella Raitch

            It’s hard to change someone’s mind when they’re in the throes of jubilation….but you can plant a seed for next time. And more people read than comment.

        • Ella Raitch

          And you just know that somewhere along the line this will all come up in a sec check, because it’s bound to bite her on the ass.

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          It’s simpler than that….the minute she opens her mouth to SING they will want nothing to do with her.

      • Juicer77

        You just know Mismanage will work this little stunt into his upstats for the year.

    • daisy

      I am living in your head tonight.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So that’s what all that racket was…

        • daisy

          Oh that was so good.

    • Frodis73

      Great summary.

    • Juicer77

      ^^^

  • Observer

    In other political trolling news (if it doesn’t make sense Google pics of Mitch McConnell):

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/833e13568bc86cf2bb7f670c83b68449a58ae57552c511195692f8dcdaba3d91.jpg

    • Frodis73

      Ew to Mitch. He creeps me out.

      • Observer

        And he looks like a turtle.

        • Frodis73

          100%. That mouth and his beady eyes. Xenu help me.

  • Frodis73

    Joy’s love by the right may be short lived…if this works right…

    @McAllisterDen @The_MonkeyMike @TomiLahren she's not a trump supporter. She had an agenda and wanted attention and you idiots ate it up. pic.twitter.com/MCn5q3ygdj— Nasty Woman (@NastyWoman20) February 13, 2017

    • Frodis73

      Also saw some that were offended by her older outfits. Lol.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Not to be outdone by Joy Villa’s attention getting Trump dress, HRH Kuba Ka announced that he will be debuting his patriotic Mike Pence booty shorts tomorrow in Hollywood at the intersection of Desperation Ave & Talentless Blvd 😉
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/582d022c0e52297779c1a66ee05af1f47e123ea1b215557eb4b464a45f3f6c99.png

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      From the Hubris Collection…?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Desperation Ave & Talentless Blvd

        i.e. the Celebrity Centre International in Hollywood.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Right around the corner from The Boulevard of Broken Dreams Clams…

    • beauty for ashes

      So many things look like they don’t belong. It would appear that all the self tanner is draining to the top of his head.

      • Juicer77

        XD

  • JaxNGold

    Did you guys catch Tony’s interview with Jim Paris tonight? It was pretty damn good.

    • Missionary Kid

      Paris is out there, but Tony certainly garnered his support. The more that is known about Co$, the worse it appears.

      • JaxNGold

        I’d actually never heard of him before and all I know is that he does some kind of Christian radio thing and whatever else. But the interview was good and Tony was excellent as always. I agree — the more people get the word out, the better.

    • Frodis73

      Unfortunately, I cannot listen. Hope it will show up as link later.

  • Fink Jonas

    whatever happened to My Scientology movie?

    • Ella Raitch

      Coming soon – Andrew Perez tweeted about it last week

    • Ella Raitch

      Tweet says releases March 10

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Bill board has posted a story about Princess Joy’s darling, darling dress. The comments have been pretty uniformly supportive of her bold, brave support of Trump in big, bad H O L L Y W O O D.

    Oh. And the comments thread is proudly hosted by Disqus. So if you are posting here, you are logged in already.

    (I’ve posted. How about you?)

    http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/grammys/7686250/joy-villa-trump-make-america-great-again-dress

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Regardless of her politics I think the dress is cheap looking and really unattractive. The top of it is reminiscent of my Mom’s 4th of July apron. You can do wild outfits at the Grammy’s if you are Lady Gaga and it helps your career. This dress is a career killer. (if indeed she HAS a career) Just my opinion.

      • Frodis73

        Good point. People expect Madonna or Lady Gaga to do stunts like that, but not some nobody that is unknown. It was a brilliant idea for the short term for her though as a lot of new “fans” said they were buying her “music”.

  • J. Swift

    Regarding Joy Villa’s dress and the support of American Conservatives: The strategy I see is to make sure Conservative Evangelicals and Catholics know the following:

    1. Joy Villa is a Scientologist

    2. There are forced abortions in Scientology’s Sea Org.

    3. L. Ron Hubbard secretly taught that he was the Antichrist and that Jesus Christ was a pedophile and a lover of young men and boys: https://scientologymoneyproject.com/2016/08/31/scientologys-secret-teachings-about-jesus-christ/

    No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned is a brief period of time in which an archenemy of Christ, referred to as the Antichrist, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This Antichrist represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the “light bearer” or “light bring”), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief Antichrist period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed, which would make it impossible for the mass Markabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events….

    For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure he has been made
    out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You
    have only to look at the history his teachings inspired to see where it all inevitably leads. It is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting. It is a good joke that the Galactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the Beast and other emissaries of the “Prince of Darkness.” Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Kabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite
    nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

    4. L. Ron Hubbard denied the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ when he said there was no man on the cross:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WfNHHn410M

    • Dave Reams

      Touché !

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Remember these two clams? http://www.mikerindersblog.org/has-scientology-finally-changed-its-tune-on-gays/ They wanted to get married in an Org. They are getting married in June but not at the CO$. Why? Is the Austin Org all booked up? Their big donations didn’t even grease the wheels for them to have the first CO$ gay wedding? 🙁
    https://www.theknot.com/us/greg-paige-and-tim-d-agostino-jun-2017
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a2b69f63a9838178314f9304fb922c09bd5a1b3003d760b8b9de962fd2e1752.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c6012de1d4b996db696330ea6290666e3c0d2686fab83831be55e03cd6379edf.png

    • Ella Raitch

      Nice one IW

    • Juicer77

      Are they kidding?

  • Chris got a new hairdo :-O
    https://youtu.be/0bJPsOWCqFk?t=19s

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. We don’t “reg” here. Have a muffin and some coffee. Come and go as you please. Ask questions. And if you need a good laugh, don’t forget this classic episode of the Dead Authors Podcast featuring a very special guest! Click on the little “Pod” button to the left of the title to play… http://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-1-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andrew-daly