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TOM CRUISE PENTHOUSE IN SCIENTOLOGY’S SPIRITUAL MECCA? WE HAVE THE PLANS

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[Tom Cruise and the building he’s said to be making his home, The Skyview in Clearwater]

Last year in September, a developer submitted new plans for a ten-story condo building in Clearwater, Florida that he’s been transforming for several years. That developer, Moises Agami, is a wealthy Scientologist from Mexico City whose family has donated millions of dollars to the Church of Scientology in recent years. And the building he’s redeveloping is right in the middle of Scientology’s Clearwater campus, just a few blocks from the spiritual center of the worldwide organization.

The changes to Agami’s plans for the building, which are reflected in detailed drawings submitted to the city that we have obtained, show that the structure’s top two floors, which had once been set aside for five separate condo units and a rooftop bar, are now going to be turned into a playpen for someone very wealthy — a double-level penthouse including a private building entrance, a massive nine-car private garage, and even a car elevator.

The Underground Bunker has learned that when a Church of Scientology official was asked by area developers about the changes, the church official admitted that the purchaser of the new super-penthouse is actor Tom Cruise.

Agami submitted those new plans on September 2, 2015, which happened to be at the same time that gung-ho Scientologist Tom Cruise was in the middle of a fire sale of his own properties. Beginning in 2013, Cruise has put at least six expensive dwellings on the market that we know of, and in September 2015, when Agami was submitting his plans, Cruise put up for sale his main residence in Beverly Hills.

In 2013, Cruise put up for sale two New York City properties, a $3 million apartment and a $28 million townhouse. In March 2015 he put two more homes on the market, a Hollywood Hills estate for $13 million, and his Telluride, Colorado compound, at $59 million. In September 2015 he listed his Beverly Hills mansion, which sold for $40 million, and in December he offered his house in southern England, at about $7.4 million.

And the question we kept hearing was, if he’s selling so much, where is he buying?

We first heard the suggestion that he planned to buy something in Clearwater about a year ago (and we weren’t the only ones who heard about it). It was a remarkable suggestion, and one that went along with other signs that Cruise is just as dedicated to Scientology as he’s ever been. Cruise could obviously live anywhere, but it really says something that he’d want to live in the town where the Church of Scientology has its spiritual headquarters — which is also its one truly profitable revenue maker.

Former Scientology official Marc Headley has told us that the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, where wealthy Scientologists must come to pay for certain high-level courses, brings in more money than the rest of Scientology’s worldwide facilities combined. And as Scientology dwindles, with empty facilities around the globe, we’re increasingly seeing signs that more emphasis is being placed on the Clearwater headquarters by church leader David Miscavige at the expense of Scientology’s other destinations. Could Cruise coming home to Clearwater be part of those plans by Miscavige? And is that why his son Connor has been seen living in the area? (Not to mention, it would be nice of Tom to be near his mother, who lives nearby.)

We emailed Moises Agami to ask him about the changes and whether they were for Cruise, and we also sent the same question to international Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw. Neither has responded.

Agami’s plans that he submitted to the city, meanwhile, show that his project has gone through a dramatic change, and with one very wealthy person in mind.

According to Agami’s permit application to the city, the building on the northeast corner of Cleveland Street and Osceola Avenue was first built in 1960 as a four-story bank. In 1971, it was expanded to nine floors, and became known as the AmSouth Bank building after its tenant, which left it, planning to make upgrades, in 2008.

 
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[The AmSouth Bank Building, before redevelopment]

 
That facelift never happened, and the AmSouth building sat empty after 2011 in a downtown that was already on life support. Scientology surreptitiously moved into the town in 1975 under a false name, the “United Churches of Florida,” buying the iconic Fort Harrison Hotel and the Clearwater Bank Building in what was characterized at the time as an invasion. Tension between the church and city has existed ever since as Scientology bought up more and more property and the central district of the city became a dead zone except for the constant flow of “Sea Org” trainees scuttling from building to building or in Scientology buses.

Today, the church owns many properties in the area, calling the overall complex the “Flag Land Base.” And right in the middle of its footprint is the old AmSouth building, which has been renamed “The Skyview” by Moises Agami.

 
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[The Fort Harrison Hotel, on Fort Harrison Avenue, is the spiritual center of Scientology’s “mecca,” the Flag Land Base. A sky bridge connects it to the giant “Flag Building” across the street, which is better known as the “Super Power” building. Wealthy Scientologists who come for expensive upper-level counseling stay at church-owned lodging, like the Sandcastle and the Osceola Inn. Sea Org workers get training at the Coachman building. And a new set of storefronts advertising Scientology’s “social betterment” organizations has opened along Fort Harrison Avenue north of Cleveland Street. Management offices are housed in the West Coast Building, which was recently rededicated.]

In 2006, the AmSouth building became part of a $200 million downtown redevelopment plan by Mexican Scientologist Elias Jafif, who intended to replace the building with a 33-floor condo tower. Six years later, with no progress on those plans, Moises Agami took over the building and announced plans for The Skyview.

Instead of replacing the building, Agami planned to gut it and fill it with 52 condo units, many of them with harbor views. There would be a restaurant and shops on the ground floor, as well as a bar and pool deck on the top, tenth floor. And he planned to keep the old bank vault in the basement and turn it into a “man cave,” with cigars and pool tables and sports on TV.

 
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Saving on teardown and construction, Agami would be able to offer the condo units at between $300,000 and $350,000 for two bedroom, two bath units of about 1,300 square feet. And the look of the project would come from the Mexico City-based architectural firm Gomez Vasquez. In other words, it was intended to be a hip project, not too highly priced, which might actually bring some life to a wheezing downtown.

Moises Agami himself was an “OT,” a high-level Scientologist whose family has quickly become one of the biggest donors in Scientology and the most generous in Latin America.

 
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[Moises Agami, featured in a Scientology magazine about his business success]

 
In 2013, Moises, on the left, was recognized with the rest of the Agami family for reaching the status of “Platinum Meritorious,” which requires cumulative donations to the International Association of Scientologists of $2.5 million.

 
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Just two years later, at the Maiden Voyage celebration in the summer of 2015, the Agamis, this time with Moises in the center, took home a trophy for reaching “Diamond Meritorious with Honors” and about $7 million in donations.

 
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And at last year’s IAS celebration in England, David and Monica Agami represented the family as they took home the big trophy for “Patron Laureate,” which requires a total of $10 million in donations. (And with at least $7.5 million of that coming just in the previous two years.)

 
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This is a family, in other words, that has pumped a lot of money into Scientology’s coffers in a very short period of time. And here is Moises and his wife, earlier this year, celebrating the opening of the new Scientology Media Productions studio in Los Angeles, which eventually is supposed to broadcast Scientology’s message to the world on television and on the Internet.

 
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After announcing his plans for The Skyview in 2012, Agami said he hoped to have it completed in 2014. But delays pushed that back, and its completion date was then set for January 2016. But last year, construction was slowed again when Agami decided to make major changes to the building.

Originally, Agami planned for the ninth floor to contain three condo units, and the tenth floor to contain two units and a bar with a pool deck that he called the Sky Terrace.

 
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On the north side of the building, meanwhile, there would be a simple parking lot, with enough room so each unit in the building would get 1.25 spaces.

 
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In the new plans submitted last year in September, major changes have come to those top two floors and to the parking lot. Now, the overall number of condo units in the building have been reduced from 52 to 40, and the number of parking spaces in the lot is reduced to 45. Over that lot, there will now be a structure connected to the condo building with a sky bridge. This new rendering, of the parking structure, is looking from the same general angle (from the north) as the previous image…

 
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That new parking structure will, on its western half, contain an “amenities” deck — a community pool, a playground for children, and a kids’ club.

 
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But it’s what is on the other side of that wall to the left in that image, on the eastern half of the parking structure, that is really remarkable.

Plans of the building show that it will be a private garage with a car elevator and its own private air bridge into the condo building.

 
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We had to look very carefully at this next drawing to make out that the elevator will carry a car up to a large space marked off with multiple parking spaces (“private enclosed garage”) which leads to a passageway (“private enclosed walkway”) that leads over the air bridge into the condo building.

 
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We wanted to make sure that we were actually seeing what looked like a massive private garage for a single tenant in the building. And then we found it, the description on the drawing itself…

 
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Let that sink in. A nine-car garage, accessed by a car elevator, that is all for a single resident, the owner of the penthouse unit of The Skyview.

Here’s another view showing the two halves of the parking structure, which in this drawing is on the left. We’ve shaded yellow the area that is private and accessed by the car elevator, and that has its own private entrance into the condo building. The brown area and the colored amenities deck is the area accessed by the other tenants in the building…

 
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And here’s a closer look at that private wing in the condo building itself, that leads to the private garage. You can see that there’s a small office lounge, and also a… a flight simulator?

 
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After Top Gun gets in a few laps around the virtual airfield, he can then go up the elevator to the ninth and tenth floors, which have now been transformed into a double-level super penthouse, with pool. We’d love it if one of our tech heads could turn these plans into 3D renderings so we get a better sense of just how posh this place is going to be.

The ninth floor penthouse…

 
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The tenth floor penthouse…

 
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And the small rooftop area…

 
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You can see why Tom might be anxious to move in. But construction has not been swift. We found that Agami did receive a permit approving his changes, but those upper floors don’t look very far along, as you can see in this photo snapped this week for us by Mark Bunker…

 
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And Mark remembered that in the past, before the construction had begun, he managed to get some rooftop footage of the view from the old AmSouth building. So we not only have detailed plans of Tom’s penthouse digs, but we can even show you what he’s going to be looking at from his perch. He’ll get a nice view of the Intracoastal and the Gulf beyond…

 
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But surely, Tom’s heart will skip a beat when he looks south and gazes upon the works of his best man, Scientology leader David Miscavige. What a lovely view of the Fort Harrison Hotel and Super Power!

 
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We think Tom is going to love the place.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on October 21, 2016 at 07:00

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  • Come to think of it, could this be the beginning of a trend? If it works for TC, will Miscavige try to move as many as possible of the ‘whales’ to a isolated and controlled geographical area and into buildings where they can be ‘supervised’?

    Will Clearwater become a luxurious org, the size of a city, whose purpose is the same as the more modest places – to separate the occupants from their money?

    • ze moo

      Sounds like Las Vegas but with more prostitutes and no comped rooms.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      what are the odds dm will install hidden cameras EVERYWHERE! and already have a ‘special staff” 24/7 installed when tc moves in?..

      • Installing indentured servants who report everything that that their principal says and does seems to be SOP for ‘handling’ celebrity members.

        The fact that TC’s residence is packed with surveillance is already documented.

        Moving him in to Clearwater can only make matters worse – and more bizarre.

    • Robert Eckert

      in Guyana?

  • Spike Robinson

    Hey diddley ho Bunkerinos – totally O/T –

    Former Scientologist Rex Basterfield talks about the lasting effects of Scientology mind-programming:

    http://openmindsfoundation.org/real-life-stories/continuing-influence
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e849f2d5ed5b7f5fd58be8dc64a7ee57ebdd45ee954be5f7a64518e437699b6.jpg

  • Hamtaro

    There once was a fellow named Tom
    Who liked to live close to his Mom
    So he bought two whole floors
    Near the Clearwater shores
    But Jack Reacher 2? Still a bomb!

  • Jimmy3

    No helipad because COB is afraid of helicopters.

  • ze moo

    Jack Reacher gets a ‘thumbs down’ review from the UKs Evening Standard.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/film/jack-reacher-never-go-back-film-review-everybody-s-gunning-for-tom-cruise-a3375581.html

    “There was some emotion in it, I was surprised’.

    “Meanwhile, Cruise sporadically narrows his eyes like a Thunderbirds puppet and emotes in the direction of a pretty, farcically unpredictable teen, Samantha (Danika Yarosh).”

    • Graham

      Isn’t the story line something about the Reacher character saving his daughter? Touch of irony there eh Tommy?

      • Tracy Schmitz

        kind of like the irony at the recent jack reacher premiere a young girl around the SAME AGE AS SURI! (and actually resembled her a bit with her dark hair) was holding a small pink poster saying she wanted a hug from him, and the female reporter pointed her out to tc and he went over to hug her…. one wonders DID ANY PART OF HIS BRAIN register the irony of this? AT ALL?!

  • Mymy88

    I don’t know if this is true. I don’t know if this really happened. I don’t know if this is considered a gossip online news rag, but here it is:

    “While walking the red carpet to promote his latest action flick, Jack Reacher 2: Never Go Back, a reporter stopped the 54-year-old to discuss David Miscavigeβ€˜s infamous organization.

    When asked about Louis Therouxβ€˜s controversial 2015 documentary, My Scientology Movie, Cruise stopped in his tracks for a moment. Once he recovered, the actor chose to praise the religion and not directly address the film.”

    If you want to read more from this article the link is: http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/tom-cruise-scientology-interview-penthouse/

    • TheLurkingHorror

      Kudos to that reporter. I so hope more reporters will start doing the same thing. I’m tired of Cruise and other Scientology celebs getting the ‘kid glove’ treatment.

  • J. Swift
    • Graham

      Now that’s just plain spooky!

      • J. Swift

        Hey, let’s not kid ourselves. Downtown Clearwater became a Scientology mausoleum years ago. The place is just another CST vault.

    • Techie

      Even for the author of A Modest Proposal that is a pretty horrifying vision, J. Swift. More like something from Edgar Allen Poe. The Pit and the Penthouse.But as I think about it, it seems less and less likely that TC is going to spend much time in Clearwater. To us it looks like a really extravagant place but it is probably more like a hangout for TC whenever he is in town for something than a permanent residence. He is going to be in LA often for shooting. There must be someplace for him there. And it is not a floor of the Celebrity Center or the 8th floor penthouse in Big Blue. That’s not his style.Much more likely that he has other places to live that we just haven’t heard about. Can you imagine moving out of this and into a condo? http://cdn.pursuitist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/tom_cruise_beverly_hills_home-800×514.jpg (edited out of control HTML, please refresh)

      • grundoon

        The Pit and the Penthouse

        rofl

  • Glibby

    Can anyone figure out how to get into the bedroom behind the kitchen? Through the bathroom? Just curious.

    • Jimmy3

      You have to grease yourself up and jump through a hole in the oven. You need to be able to do your own stunts.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Haw!

  • Chee Chalker

    I do not see any plans for an oiliness table. OSAbots reading this….make this right!
    P.S. Can you please inform me of the date and time of the next Mrs. Tom Cruise search?

    I want to send in my resume and a headshot
    I figure Tom and Dave can have one floor and I’ll stay on the other

    • Missionary Kid

      Snickersnort!

    • Liberated

      Don’t hold your breath, Davey is very particular about finding Ms. Right.
      Like he always says “pimpin’ ain’t easy”
      In my opinion, I don’t think he has the slightest intention of finding TC a new stepford wife,
      “Tom’s mine all mine”

  • chukicita

    So no one else thinks this little apartment isn’t just something Tom’s buying for Connor so he won’t have to stay at the Quality Inn when he’s in town?

    • Good point.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      With two separate floors and enough elevated parking for the entire family, it could serve as a home base for Tom Tom whenever he’s in town and a cushy place to crash for every other Cruise family member as well.

  • stillgrace2

    I am not a psychic nor do I claim any super powers beyond “manifesting” the occasional parking space. However, my “gut feeling” or “intuition” is something I have come to trust over my many years. Feelings of sadness and an uneasy kind of mild dread hit me when I examined the blueprints for this two-story penthouse early this morning. These feelings persisted into this afternoon with an added sense of pure loneliness.
    I know TC is a bit of a tool, but I don’t wish this for him or anyone.

    • Sherbet

      Somebody way down thread referred to TC as Howard Hughes. Who cares if he can look out over the ocean in the distance? To me, peace, serenity, restfulness all come from being close to nature, not seeing it from the balcony. Cruise is still a Rapunzel of his own making, and the condo is an enclave with lots of walls to keep him in and keep the world out. THAT sounds lonely.

      • Observer

        Not just keep the world out, but his own daughter. He’s neglected her for years; I don’t see that changing because he has a spiffy new penthouse. I can’t seem to drum up any sympathy for Big Being #3.

        • Baby

          Not a tear from me Obs.

        • Sherbet

          I agree. He’s a jerk.

      • stillgrace2

        Well said, Sherbet. That resonates.

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    I think the whole condo thing is just……weird !

  • Out and about

    Will there be a bedroom for Suri?

  • outraged

    Yea, hope Cruise enjoys all that new space available to play with his daughter.😠

  • OOkpik

    Tom is one of those guys who cannot stand being alone.

    As he continues to alienate more of the people around him and as the public becomes more aware of the criminal behavior of the “religion” he wholeheartedly supports, he is getting shouldered off his pedestal. He is fast losing his luster in every way possible. To him, the world is becoming an increasingly lonely, threatening and dangerous place.

    What is he to do but fold up his tent and run to the only group offering him a “safe” place to fail fall?
    He will soon discover that even feigned ignorance is not bliss. It’s out of the frying pan into the fire.
    There is none so blind as he who will not see. He’s royally screwed now, poor phucker!

    • ze moo

      TC gets his ego fix in the clampire, but mostly on the movie lot or movie planning stage. Does he have any real friends? Yeah, Hollywood is full of ‘friends’ when your doing well.

  • OT: How bad is it that 10 pound Tyrion ate 1 ounce of rat poison 2 hours ago? We are at the vet and have been waiting about ten minutes. I want to advocate for my pup but I don’t want to piss off the staff. Anyone have experience with pet poisoning? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e55334ed53db5dd1a29b98f6f18f53d5643aec520a672ec413eebbaae57a06b4.jpg

    • stillgrace2

      I have had experience, Nat. You are in the right place. A good vet is the first step.

      • They just took him to make him puke, so that’s good. I tried to induce vomiting with peroxide and then mustard at home but it didn’t work.

        • OOkpik

          For future reference the packaging will tell you what to do in case of accidental ingestion. A call to your vet is even better. πŸ™‚

        • sizzle8

          Next time I’ll send you some of my “baking”!

        • noseinabk

          I went to let my kids lab pup out one day and he decided to go nuts and chew up some hostas. I had to keep upping the peroxide to get results. I didn’t know how much he ate and felt awful thinking they may come home to a puke or poo filled kitchen or worse. Bratty dog.

        • Ella Raitch

          Poor puppy. Sounds like it will all turn out ok

      • Thanks, I feel better now that they are treating him

        • edit – my math sucks

          • Luckily those bait cubes are small.

          • OOkpik

            Not to be alarming Nat, but the cubes generally have different, faster-acting and more lethal chemicals than the standard warfarin pellets. The same calculations may not apply.

            Puppy is lucky to be where he is, thanks to Nat’s quick action.

            • Yes. Apparently this poison wasn’t a blood thinner it was a neuro toxin, so good thing he puked most of it out. They also gave him activated charcoal and steroids.

            • noseinabk

              Our local dollar store sells little plastic squares with bait in the corner. These are great for the garage since I know my lab would need to work hard to get at it and he ignores them so they must not be enticing.

          • Robert Eckert

            An ounce is 30 grams or 30,000 milligrams, 600 times that 50mg dose, so unless her dog weighs 600 kg (1300 pounds) an ounce should be plenty to make him very sick indeed.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          My good thoughts are with you and your pup.

    • OOkpik

      He’s where he should be now.

      By the photo, it looks like you have taken quick action. Knowing what he ate is so important to treatment.

      He may be given an emetic or have his stomach pumped and possibly be administered a blood thickening agent to counteract the anti-coagulant in the rat poison if it contained warfarin.

      I think he will make it.
      ((Hugs))

    • LongtimeLurker

      Hugs.

      • P.S. His sister is a pug.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Gasp! ; )

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh Nat, I am so sorry. So glad he is at the vet. He is in good hands.

    • Oh no! i hope everything is okay.

      • Looks like he will recover

        • That’s good. Poor guy. He’s supposed to eat the rats not the poison πŸ™

          • Ikr? It was my fault for not double checking that the back gate was closed. Poor pup.

            • Nah don’t blame yourself. It was an accident and they happen.

            • Ty

            • I went with my friend and her ex one time to ASPCA because they wanted to adopt a puppy. So she is interviewing all of us and she gets to the my friends ex and asks him if he’s had any dogs. The convo went like this:

              Ex: “Yeah.”
              Volunteer: “What kind?”
              E: “A mut.”
              V: “How old?”
              E: “He died.”
              V: “How old was he?”
              E: “4”
              V: “That’s very young. Was he well taken care of?”
              E: “Yes he just ate poison.”
              V: …
              E: “From under the sink.”
              V: ….
              E: “Like not on purpose. He was well fed and stuff.”
              V: …
              E: …

              At this point my friend and I were staring in disbelief at each other.

              V: “You can go home now. We’ll call you if we need more information.”

              We about slapped that idiot across the face when we walked out.

            • Lol!

            • daisy

              Accidents happen, do not blame yourself. Make a drink , put on jammys and relax.

        • daisy

          Oh thank God, it could have been serious. So happy puppy and you ok.

        • Juicer77

          Poor pawpy. Glad he will be OK.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Holy crap, I hope the little lion is OK! Wishing him well, and wishing his mama peace of mind…

    • Observer

      Yikes! It depends on what kind he ate, I would think. I hope he’s okay.

    • daisy

      Unfortunately yes. If it is rat poisoning, DO NOT WAIT ! SHE NEEDS VITAMIN K INJECTION RIGHT NOW. BE RUDE!!!

      • So, they made him vomit and gave him fluids and activated charcoal and meds for home. The vet said watch him closely for the next few days. Hopefully he’ll recover. Thanks for the advice πŸ™‚

        • daisy

          Oh I am so glad he didn’t need the needle. Mom had a neighbor who poisoned both of our , gs ( whole long sad story .One cocker died before they figured out what was wrong , moms died, and my other cocker lived . You can make most dogs vomit with about 5 cc hydrogen peroxide if you need to in A pinch, Big sigh of relief he is ok.

          • Sorry to hear about the pups — luckily the vet was able to get Tyrion to vomit out most of the poison before it was absorbed into his bloodstream. Some may still be in his intestine but they sent me home with bonding agent and steroids to give him.

          • Mymy88

            I hope your mom’s neighbor gets cancer in the most painful place possible for doing that.

            • daisy

              He moved and I rarely think about him, if I can help it.

            • daisy

              Thank you for the sentiment. Although my family believes he did it on purpose, I choose to believe it was a sad accident. My brother had numerous arguments. with him. I hated the drama and smiled and waved anyway On the day my brother died we were snowed in . He came over with his little shovel and cleared most of the drive before several other neighbours joined them. I hated that he was careless , so I only wish a sprained ankle. I loved those puppies.

            • Mymy88

              I sure hope he didn’t do it on purpose. Was it anti-freeze?

            • daisy

              No it was rat poison. If we knew at the time we could have saved them but we didnt know.It was very sad, The 3rd dog lived until age 18 .

            • Mymy88

              OH wow. That’s so so terrible. I’m sorry you had to go through that. That’s just awful but I am glad the 3rd doggie made it.

    • Mymy88

      Awww poor pup pup. I hope she recovers really quickly.

  • sizzle8

    Where’s Suri’s bedroom?…….oh, wait!

    • Comment of the year.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Oh that little PTSD is so cute. He’ll put her in the RPF in the garage when she’s nine months pregnant.

  • Elizabeth Lavet

    I was watching the Jason Beghe interview done by Mark Bunker. It was interesting that Scientology actual got his YouTube channel taken down at one point, along with some other detractors. He does a good job — Mark is a little hard to hear but all eyes are on Jason Beghe and he lets him talk freely. Jason makes the strong point that he realized, looking around, that there are no real CLEARS. He also talks about curing mental mix up by bring the person to present time. That coming to present time fully is powerful. I think that is part of the harmful effects of Scientology, a past focus in your mind. Through auditing you conjure up pictures and happenings of the past, no real intention, no intent to learn something other then open yourself to past events. It is pretty easy for a person to allow their mind to make pictures, one does it all the time in Shamanic journey work, but that is with an intention. In Scientology, my experience was that no matter how many times I ran the mental conjured scene it often did not resolve into happiness or discharged emotion so there is this scene that is left fully charged that their technique encouraged me to pull up but I have no idea what to do with it. In other words, I think Scientology keeps people focused in the past sometimes, instead of living fully in present time. One of the commentors had said he thought this was a war because L. Ron Hubbard stated something about wanting our minds. (not a quote). This is a free country. People can basically say anything they want, with limits, we don’t have to go along and do not have to believe them. When they ask about our sex lives we can say that is private, I don’t tell anyone about my sex life, next question please. One of the problems with scientology is that they lie and indicated they can help you and the person wants what they are offering. It is very quickly clear you will go no further unless you go along, or is that true. I refused a lot of things and they let me take the beginning study and communication course anyway. I refused to sign their contract and walked away to come back another day, my mistake. I wonder what impact it would have on those still inside if people just refused their bullshit, said no and were willing to walk away. IF we took one of their cheaper classes and refused to write any positive review of it, as they demand. Refused to watch their movie if they insisted on locking the door. Told them it is BS when they say you are more likely to be hit by a bus if you walk away after seeing the film. If we told them firmly we can see what we choose to see and choose to do what we want afterward staying fully present without getting hit by a bus, we have self determinism, everybody does, including them. I wonder if we went in and modeled self determinism, the ability to just say no, refuse to be manipulated by their bullying or whining, if that would have an impact on them. Maybe the world does not need to be saved. Maybe they need to save themselves by just saying no. Wonder what it would do if we calmly, without malice, modeled that for them? Just a thought. Probably the worse they would do is ask me to leave, which I would gladly do but I am not sure they have a right to do. Their buildings are open for business and to the public. I am a public. It is only in their head that I am bad or good. What I think of them should not matter, if what they have to offer is worth anything at all.

    • Scientology is domestic violence inside your head and you can’t call the cops. sorta!

      • Elizabeth Lavet

        You go in mentally prepared to stay calm, realize you are a good person that has everything you want, you don’t need them, can say no, can say nothing, can say move on, can say “I don’t want to discuss it” and walk away to play another day. Can say no thank you. You do not have to take the mental punches. You can have a list of answers that are calm. The strength of a person is being able to say their own truth calmly without depending on the outcome. Scientologists rage a little, they act like asses, they act like nice nice, your friend. It is all a con. My job would be to stay in my own truth and stay courteous. Exercise my rights to say no and be interested at the level I want to be interested, to refute what they say for me, not to change them. What I model for myself hopefully would have an impact, not telling them they are wrong. I have never seen a CLEAR and don’t believe there is such a thing, maybe they do, maybe they have. My job is not to argue with them but to put my foot firmly down and know where I want to place it.

        • As long as you play along, everything is fine… then after 30 years you see the damages, like broken up families, ruined kids – now adults. Broken dreams and suicidal thinking. Good you didn’t take the ride! – How far did you go?

          • Elizabeth Lavet

            I did take the ride. I am mad at myself for the very first time I gave in and did or said something I really did not agree with and went against my beliefs. What I am talking about is going in for small classes and not playing along. From the minute I stepped into an org. there were so many opportunities I could have said what I was really thinking but I wanted something from them. They knew what that was and made sure I spent as much money as they could possibly get from me before they would let me do what I wanted. I don’t ever want to be in that position again. I want to call a lie a lie and them liars if that happens. I want to question their behavior. I want to go in to take a class and not play along. Somewhere early on they asked if I have any upsets with Scientology, I assume that is the routine, and I will say Yes, just yes. They will say what are those, and I will say what they are and what they left me thinking about Scientology, even though my friend recommended I come in and take the $25.00 communication course or study course. I only took a few classes inside the Church of Scientology. I feel like they took my power away, did not give me power. I want my power back. You want to go with me?

            • so what was it that you wanted from this? If you can put words on it. What i wanted to find out was the “Scientific” knowledge to his Pavlovian claims in Dianetic and then The Thetan part, what on their terms somehow plausible.

            • Elizabeth Lavet

              Dice, you are a much deeper thinker than I am. You know, it does not matter “what” someone wants when they go there. The wanting distorts a persons willingness to bend their actions and those actions impact slowly their thinking, at least I see where it had an impact on my ability later to fight for myself or not. In reality they will tell you that you need something, or find out what it is you want, and then tell you they can help. I thought I was a very principled person. I blew off things, allowed them to stand that I knew were wrong, so I could get what I wanted and also stay in the game long enough to see if they had anything of value to offer me. I was very ignorant, I had had some outside auditing but knew very little about them. The lesson I take away from this is to trust myself, if something does not seem right, either confront it or walk away or both, because it is not going to get better ignoring it. I am glad I ended it when I did. I was there long enough to see they could not help me if they could not help themselves. They were abusive and they lied, I really hated that.

            • I agree… there are many entrances to this rabbit hole!

            • Elizabeth Lavet

              I realize I did not answer all your question directly. Some other time.

            • that’s ok… it’s a long story for most of us πŸ™‚

            • chukicita

              Why on earth would you want to do that when you know they are just going to parrot back what they have drilled, which is that if you are having issues with Scn then you are doing it wrong and it is your fault and you will need to do this action or buy this service to fix yourself. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
              The best revenge is living well and in peace.

            • Elizabeth Lavet

              Thanks for reminding me of those. Most of my experience was more clearly their bad behavior. Just facing my own fears I guess, practicing saying no, and in my little way protesting their behavior. Everybody has to live their life as they see fit. I do understand getting on with ones life and appreciate your encouragement that I do that. Might heed your wise words.

            • chukicita

              I totally get wanting to face your own fears and proving to yourself that you can say no. Just suggesting that there might be a healthier way to achieve this. If you decide to do this, please don’t go alone, okay?

      • Liberated

        I agree.

        • What is your experience with this cult?. if i could ask.

          • Liberated

            It’s ok to ask, there’s just so much to say I’ll begin with one aspect.
            I walked into a mission in 1975 and I consider that the stupidest thing I ever did.
            I did a couple courses and spent money for life repair and got screwed, but most importantly I was bullied into a dreadful marriage with an abusive drunk ,but he got away with it because he was a class 4 auditor and those around me always defended him. I never saw him audit anyone.
            So I really understand when someone compares the cult to domestic abuse and even “gaslighting” that is so true.
            I could go on and on…but that’s enough for now.
            I have developed a profound interest in characteristics of the sociopathic and malignant narcissist personality. It rings true for me, but now I’m free. I’m so sick of being told to forgive,
            the only person I care about forgiving …..is me.

            Hope I didn’t bum you out too much my experience was not pleasant.
            I’ve always wanted to ask you, “were you in sea org?

            • wow! thanks for this… no matter how short, i got the big picture!
              I’m all with you on the Not forgiving and I don’t care anymore. This kind of persona was concentrated and nurtured in that cult!

              No i was never in the SO, but we had them running around every day (AOSH), since they lived a few blocks away from the local org. So i have been following these people since 1980 and seen what it does to those in the SO. This is where the real Cult is! A Class 5 org is just nifty, nifty compared to the SO. But then i also take, that you have seen the weird change this group undergo over the decades, as it ended up like something completely different that i signed up fore.

              My biggest problem in all this was that, everybody i knew, was a freaking scientologist. lol… I disconnected totally from them, when i found out, that they are not harmless or nice people he he.

            • Liberated

              Exactly, everyone around me was cult addicted, or should I say pretended to be.
              I realized early on the person had gave the most money and was OT could do anything.
              I hated these people, they were arrogant and hateful, I knew they were not nice people either and I always felt isolated.
              I swear, I have never met one person in that god awful cult that could communicate, not one.

            • LOL *Shakes hands – High five* πŸ™‚

            • Liberated

              High five…..back at ya!

            • Elizabeth Lavet

              Liberated, I guess you could identify with Larissa that Chris Shelton interviewed. Why would they want you to get married and him to get married?. I kind of thought they viewed marriage as something that would take away the persons time from the Scientology work.

            • Liberated

              Yes, I identify with all the sad stories of young girls who were bullied to marry a fellow cult member.
              It was different back then, I was public ,it was just a mission and nobody was full-time staff, in fact the place was only open 3 nights a week. Everyone had real jobs.
              I really could never figure out why there was such a push to marry, I suppose they thought you would be easier to control if you were “connected up”

            • aquaclara

              Well said. And I hope that you can find time to bake some brownies, let them cool just enough, scoop out some vanilla ice cream to put on top, grab a spoon and a beverage (I do find that a nice glass of white wine goes with brownies), sit in the comfy chair, and remind yourself how special you are.

              You didn’t actually do anything wrong, you know. I mean, it wasn’t like they had the flashing neon “cult:enter here” signs all lit up and you walked in anyway. They trap people.

              So enjoy your sweet treat that you so totally earned, and tell yourself you are worth it!

              Had I not grown up in Clearwater, and had Scientology opted for a bakery scam rather than those truly odious books or tests, I might well have been there, too.

            • Jimmy3

              I like everything about this idea.

            • Liberated

              Thanks, I’m gonna be just fine.

            • Liberated

              Thanks, I’m gonna be just fine.

            • chukicita

              That last part. Never, ever go into a store called Blinky’s Muffins, okay?

            • aquaclara

              Now you tell me. πŸ˜‰

            • LongtimeLurker
            • Liberated

              Thanks man, I needed that.
              Whenever I see your wombat I think of Paddington Bear. Can’t you just see him in a bright blue raincoat, a shiny yellow hat and red rain boots?

            • LongtimeLurker

              !!!! I wish I had a stuffed toy wombat so I could dress him like that!

              I love Paddington. Had one for years, with the outfit and everything.

              Hugs.

            • Liberated

              I have to tell you this, there’s a song from the 70’s by “The Steve Miller Band” called ” Last Wombat in Mecca”.
              I used to own the album “Your Saving Grace” and listen to it all the time.
              If I knew how to provide a link I would.
              I’m sure you’ll find it on utube, I just did.

            • LongtimeLurker

              What? I’ll go look!

              This might help;

              1 – when you’re on the page or video you want to link to, copy the address from your browser address bar (top left); highlight with the mouse then copy it, Control + c on a computer.

              On a tablet or smartphone, tap & hold on the address to select and then choose ‘copy’.

              2 – type your comment, then at the end hit Return and paste the copied address;

              Control + v on a computer or on tablet or smartphone tap & hold until ‘paste’ appears

              You need to hit return after your text otherwise the link might not work.

              Then hit ‘Post as Liberated’ and it probably still won’t work, because Disqus.

              3 – if that didn’t make sense, tell me what device and Operating System you’re on and I’ll be more specific.

              4 – if it did make sense and now you’re offended because you already knew all that, and I misunderstood the problem, forgive me.

              5 – where are you? Is it crazy late there?

            • Liberated

              No my dear ,you never offend me and yes I’m the dumbest person in the world when it comes to computer stuff.
              It’s crazy late here, and I’ll tackle this info tomorrow. Thanks very much.
              I have an iPad.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Pleasure, treasure.

              Let me know how you go.

              If needed, I can do better instructions (with pictures). ; )

            • Liberated

              It’s a deal.

            • Contamminated

              The wombat pix are so cute…is it a pet?

            • LongtimeLurker

              They’re so cute.

              Almost everywhere (maybe everywhere?) in Australia it’s illegal to keep them as pets (they’re indigenous and endangered).

              But there are people licensed to rescue injured or orphaned indigenous animals and get them ready to return to the wild.

              Wombats and kangaroos get hit by cars in the country, but the joey (the baby) can sometimes survive, get rescued and be hand-reared. Those ones behave a lot like dogs, and are really human-focussed and social.

              In the wild, not so much. They’re not too aggressive, but they wouldn’t be friendly.

              I want to move to the country and get one of those licenses. Except I don’t like the country.

              Here’s a gif of a hand-reared wombat and a video of one in a zoo playing with its keeper.
              F5
              https://media.giphy.com/media/6ltdfzUvMpKqA/giphy.gif

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnBRd_K47w

            • JJ

              Well at least he does his own laundry…

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah…but he doesn’t fold it and put it away.

              Lucky he’s so cute.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Wait…where are you? I didn’t just tell you a bunch of stuff you already knew did I?

              Sorry.

            • Contamminated

              I’m in the high desert outside Los Angeles. I asked because you always post the sweetest pix of the lil babes, so I thought perhaps you had a hands on source of your own! Thanx for the response, info & pix!

            • LongtimeLurker

              I knew that didn’t I? Sorry. Lack of sleep.

              No, I so wish I had a wombat source.

              One day, one day.

      • Elizabeth Lavet

        Dice, I do realize that for some people, especially if they do not prepare, going back inside could be traumatic and open them up for more manipulation. Very angry people could cause more harm than good. I hope those people wait.

        • Not sure i am following you! I would never set my foot in there again, not even to test myself. I can only behave or tolerate them using the keyboard?

          • Elizabeth Lavet

            Gotcha, It is good you know that.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I think cruise and bm are ready to tie the knot.

  • burythenuts

    Ok, I should probably actually READ all this first….but I will go with me first instinct.

    BARF!!!

    • ze moo

      TC is worth hundreds of millions. Now, my question is does he own the building? And where is his ‘primary’ residence? For tax purposes of course.

    • noseinabk

      Tom must need more access to that free slave labor. He also needed to reinforce his bubble with concrete apparently.
      Maybe he feels the need to double down because some doubts are creeping in. Hahahahaha. Nah.

    • Kim O’Brien

      Where the heck have you been ??! πŸ™‚ Nice to see you . ( refresh for a funny that Andrea posted ) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6767fbde7c64a4b0402249a7455bcbe3149fc8f1cdb40243787655c80105aed.jpg

  • exccla

    I think there’s a good chance that tom won’t end up living there or if he moves in, he won’t stay there long. It might take to long to finish it and tom may lose interest in it or the cherch.also congrats to ReallyMGM on the grandchildren. Yes, I too am jealous.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Ya know who lives in condos ?

    Divorced , single dads …who rarely see their kids . They also drives cars that are cool …and only have two front seats . One for him …the other one for anyone other than his child .

    Trust me when i tell you that by the time those two decisions are made by him ….the kid is waaaaay better off. They grow up to be awesome …and they have a 14 year old daughter who is even more awesome .

    • Vaquera

      I was a divorced single mom…whose kids lived with me in a condo…and I drove an SUV.
      Just sayin’. xo
      add: and they also grew up to be awesome. πŸ™‚

      • Kim O’Brien

        ” lived with you ” ..is the difference . My dad had a three bedroom place ..one was his bedroom …one was for his boxing bag that hung from the ceiling …and one was his office . He lived alone ….drove a sports car . He was on a softball team and used to take me to watch him play .. so he could use me as bait to pick up chicks . This might be a trigger for me LOL

        • Vaquera

          I just threw up in my mouth a little.
          But you’ll always have that Texas jail.

          • Kim O’Brien

            LOL ..true πŸ˜‰

        • iampissed

          I’m sorry it triggers something for you.

          • Kim O’Brien

            no worries πŸ˜‰ a condo in Clearwater near scientology …is just icky , no matter what LOL

      • iampissed

        Glad they did…so did I!

      • Always Amazed

        I have a lot of friends who live in condos from all walks of life.

    • jazzlover

      Daddy and ex-husband issues aside, howzabout you take a step back from making offensive, blanket statements? Not all of us single dads abandon their kids. Life is not cookie cutter.

      • Kim O’Brien

        yeah …cuz that was directed at ALL single dads and not Tom fucking Cruise ( who never sees Suri ,…fucking DUH ) How bout you put your issues aside and try to appreciate that you might NOT be a father like that …cuz my Da …my step-father …is actually pretty amazing . I have said so many , many , many times …cuz i know that life is not a cookie cutter . Oh ..and jazz still sucks

        • jazzlover

          If you were a guy, I’d call you a “dick”. Re-read what you wrote and see how it sounds. Learn how to write what you mean.

          • Kim O’Brien

            “Ya know who lives in condos ?Divorced , single dads …who rarely see their kids”

            if that is not you …then shut the fuck up . If it is you ..still shut the fuck up

            • jazzlover

              Stay classy.

            • Kim O’Brien

              what a nasty man

            • jazzlover

              You’ll never know.

            • Kim O’Brien

              gross . even in an argument you need your imaginary sexual prowess validated . Under an assumed name

              gross

            • jazzlover

              It’s telling that you think that’s what I meant.

            • Anony-Lurker

              Wow, back a couple of days and you’re back to fighting with people, just as you did with me the first times I posted.
              So I ask you again, is there anyone you can actually get along with? I don’t have to wonder who the real “Dick” is??? Hmmm

            • jazzlover

              Howzabout you butt the fuck out of things you have nothing to do with, you anonymous loser πŸ™‚ You don’t have to wonder who the real “dick” because it’s clear that it’s you. Tracking me? LOL. Get a life.

            • Anony-Lurker

              I and the majority of others you don’t like are part of your irrational and insane blitzkrieg.
              You are a little man with narcissistic qualities who attacks others as a means to raise your self esteem which does seem to be very much lacking. A particular dislike like for women is pretty evident too so many in the Bunker.

              Oops, you remind me of a presidential candidate. Okay, enough said.

            • jazzlover

              LOL. Rage on, ig’nant one. If you believe I have a dislike for women based on my sticking up for men (in this particular instance), (1) you’re even more stupid than I thought and (2) you have no pride. Get real. “And a partridge in a pear tree.” You know nothing about the type of person I am, or what others think of me. You are the common – small-minded and irrelevant.

              Learn English.

            • Anony-Lurker

              Or you’ll deport me Donald? LOL

            • jazzlover

              Give up. You lack the mental acuity to win this. I could toy with you all day, but you’d learn nothing. Get over it. You’re wasting my time and yours. Not that I expect you to understand any of that. Alpha male doesn’t become you. You don’t realize how “basic” you sound, do you? “And a partridge and a pear tree.”

            • Anony-Lurker

              My god, you are like Trump…
              Napoleonic complex and all (also known as small man syndrome). I bet you peek over at the next urinal, just to compare…lol

              I will admit that I had no idea Misogyny was part of the complex. I’ve been hit on by creeps like you. I know your type well.

            • jazzlover

              I’m not gay, so I guess you’re safe. If you happen to be a woman (I suppose stranger things have happened on the net), I wouldn’t touch you with Kim’s dick.

              Don’t hedge – God is spelled with a capital “G”.

            • Anony-Lurker

              Go away Donald, you’re just another misogynistic, homophobic,creepy little man
              I know there a few left who you’ve not yet antagonized…only a few though. Go argue with them for a while. Sure beats you living your pathetic little life.
              Lol…Always the short ones with those very fragile egos and tiny little fingers…

              “I’ve forgotten more music than you’ll ever know”…jazzlover 2016

            • jazzlover

              I was away. You replied to me Einstein. And yes, I’ve forgotten more about music than you’ll ever know. Starting to get the feeling you miss me, Oracle. LOL

              “And a partridge in a pear tree”. Anons: the smartest guys in the room — said no one ever –oh, except for yer number 1 fan, the mental 12 year old, Marissa Sigmond.

            • Anony-Lurker

              Wow, I thought I told you to go away, you little misogynistic (legend in your own mind) creep.

              “Ive forgotten more music than you ever knew” jazzlover (sic) 2016

            • jazzlover

              I love the smell of cowardly passive-aggression in the morning. Why would I listen to an inferior? You keep addressing me. You just can’t keep away for whatever reason.

              The girl from wherever she’s says she’s from depending on which way the wind blows smarter than this “boy from Queens”? I don’t think so.

              You are harassing me and quickly entering the zone of “cyber-bullying”. I would tread lightly if I were you. But hey, it’s great not to be.

            • Anony-Lurker

              Right Donald……

    • JJ

      And older retired couples tired of yard work.

  • Observer

    If anyone needs a laugh to clear out the Cruise miasma: the Comedy Wildlife Awards.

    http://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/

    • noseinabk

      Awww, that baby elephant. And those Owls. Cuteness overload.

  • nottrue

    How can TC call scientology beautiful when it alienates him from his daughter. That is why he will always be a jackass in my book. Nothing could ever keep me from my daughters

    • aquaclara

      Yes. Well, that and his general allaround jackass ness. This is exactly why he is a jackass.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I held the new condo floor plans under a black light and I think this hidden detail may confirm that Tom Cruise will be moving in… πŸ˜‰
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c3ef418e3fedb52b6915e78fae8fffafe414c1ce5ddabee560bb6b425ff3bc2.png

    https://youtu.be/U1Iy_6-uuj4?t=46s

  • nottrue
    • jazzlover

      He forgot to mention the US.

  • nottrue

    It would be nice if you could look out the window. Tom calls this shit beautiful …. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b38e81bb10e780fdcf63251c6baf81c72b5d14e654ffb8e77235dfd1f0f99396.jpg

  • Vaquera

    A heads up for all of my fellow “theater kids,” Hamilton’s America (the making of Broadway’s Hamilton) starts now on PBS.

    • iampissed

      Thank you, theater geek here.

  • noseinabk

    Off topic. A few people here have posted about the pipeline protest and the disgusting charges against journalist who cover it. Just hit home for me. http://www.wgal.com/article/55000-gallons-of-gasoline-spill-into-susquehanna-river/7027298
    The susquehanna moves so swiftly ( the undertow is killer in some spots, personal experience ) that I bet I will see the effects of this next time I cross the conowingo damn. The amount of trash that washes down is already shocking and now this mess will move directly to the Chesapeake bay. Sad part is that at the damn it will sit at is home to many eagles ,ducks and fish.

  • Always Amazed

    I can’t imagine TC would chose to live in FL as his primary residence, but being his circle of friends seems to be getting smaller and smaller, maybe he has no reason to live anywhere but in Creepywater, FL. Time will tell.

    • It’s the smell of swamp that is attracting him!

  • Jimmy3

    Grey skies are going to Clear up
    Put on a happy TR face

  • aquaclara

    TC’s cars will have a far nicer home than Sea Org members at Flag. I hope they learn this and take notice.

  • Mymy88

    Meh, I’m so damn lethargic and bored tonight. How about posting some good music, people! Yes? No? Whatever? lol

    • OOkpik
      • Mymy88

        Hmm, let me guess… Is it the DNA structure for a cobra?

        • OOkpik

          By gum, I think you’re right!

          Maybe this will tide you over
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=N00hhd_OQRs

          • Mymy88

            Hmm, yeah, soulful, get into it… bluesy… feellin it… good song for sure.. listening now.. Wolf Den. Thanks

          • Mymy88

            Okay, Wolf Den… I liked it. What else ya got? Lay it on me.

      • daisy

        weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

      • Chee Chalker

        I want to go to there….

      • LongtimeLurker

        But…how…?

    • Mymy88

      C’mon! someone out there has to have something. I like all kinds of music.. let’s go! I need a pick-me-up. Some good music would do it. I know it would. Pretty please?

      • Spike Robinson
        • Mymy88

          Hmm, time for some down-home Spike Robinson… listening now…

          • Mymy88

            Oh LORD!!!! lololololol Spike! U be so cray cray guh!!! lol.. I’m loving it!

            • Mymy88

              Oh damn. Such a dark turn.

            • Mymy88

              HAHAHAHA LITTLE DAVEY… little davey… LITTLE DAVEY… little davey… still listening..

      • noseinabk
        • Mymy88

          Okay.. listening to Drifting Away.. Not heard that in a long long time… Yep… that’s perfect for my mood tonight.. I wanna get lost in the music. Thanks.

    • Jimmy3
      • Mymy88

        Hmm, this might be interesting, or something… here I go.. Logan.. click…

        • Jimmy3

          It’s the greatest movie ever shot. I know this from the teaser trailer.

          • Mymy88

            Yeah, exactly the movie one needs to see when feeling like they need their spirits lifted lol.

      • Mymy88

        Oh fuck Jimmy, I feel so much better now! LOL

      • Chee Chalker

        I don’t know what that’s about, but it looks good

        • Jimmy3

          It’s loosely based on the graphic novel (code for comic book) Old Man Logan, which is an entirely different kind of superhero story. Wolverine is losing or has completely lost his regenerative powers. Xavier doesn’t have the mind he once had. Basically, they’re old. But they still need to do super hero shit.

    • noseinabk

      Edit: Failed link.

      • Mymy88

        Linky no worky. Maybe it’s my laptop.

        • noseinabk

          No, it is me. On my tablet everything wants to open in an app so can’t get a good link. Was trying to post Over the Rainbow
          Song by Israel KamakawiwoΚ»ole

          • JaxNGold

            I adore his cover of that song. It’s so incredibly beautiful. Such a shame he passed away at such a young age.

          • Mymy88

            Oh okay, thanks. I’ll go find it on YouTube now (Over the Rainbow Israel Kamakawiwo’ole.. damn that last name was even hard to type.. I’d don’t even want to know how to probounce it lol).

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Iz

            • Supper Powers

              Iz.

          • PerpetualOutflow
            • Mymy88

              Real nice (Over the Rainbow). I love it.

            • noseinabk

              Thanks. Never liked the song until I heard his version. I listened to it multiple times in order to inoculate myself to hearing it played as my daughter walked down the aisle. Didn’t work.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Love his version too. It’s one of a kind. He was so talented. Left us way too soon.

          • PerpetualOutflow

            Will post

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)
      • Mymy88

        Yeah, familiar with this song (Shake It Off), it’s a good song, but damn, Taylor acting like a nasty heifer in that video lol. Listening now.. thanks for posting.. (BTW sorry I not got back to yet about the stage hypno thing, I’m still trippin on it.. I think it’s the key analogy I’ve been looking for)…

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          It’s my favorite country song….

          • Mymy88

            I love country. What else ya got?

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              Madonna’s “Who’s that Girl?” πŸ™‚ : ) : )

            • Mymy88

              “Madonna’s “Who’s that Girl?” πŸ™‚ : ) : )”

              I know, I know. All work and no play makes Mymy a dull girl. Music is my play.

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          You’ll have to ask Mockbird for a good analogy. Gotta go watch another movie.

        • noseinabk

          Mama’s Broken Heart
          Song by Miranda lambert

          Goodbye Earl
          Dixie chicks

          • Mymy88

            Whew, those two video’s were funny as hell! I don’t know which one was funnier. I’ve seen Mama’s Broken Heart video before, LOVE IT and the song and Miranda’s voice of course. A neighbor liked the video so much she had me watch the video on her phone lol. Her daughters were going to a Miranda concert that night.

            I’d heard Goodbye Earl before but never saw the video. Excellently funny! LOVED IT. Thanks for posting.

            I also allowed myself to get a little sidetracked and watched a couple other Miranda videos, ‘Only Prettier’ and ‘White Liar’. Excellent in every way and both so cutely funny.

    • Supper Powers

      Maybe Nat will host one of her online puzzles.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Here is some good music. πŸ˜€
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

      • noseinabk

        Bratty kid tried to request this at a homecoming dance.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          Haha. πŸ™‚

      • Mymy88

        You are unbelievable! I’ll get you back for that LOL!

        • TheMirrorThetan

          *Trying to look innocent*
          What? You are not a fan of 80’s music? Its the best. πŸ˜›

          • Mymy88

            Ha ha, sure I like 80’s music. “Spin me round round round like a record baby round round round.” They guy that sang that song said it is totally traumatic cringe worthy for him to have that on his resume but I liked it. It’s probably just a reminder of a really bad time in his life. I don’t really know a lot about him.

            Same thing with Danny Elfman. He said he LOATHED the Weird Science video. Huh? I liked it. BTW the music track with Nightmare before Christmas is sublime. I can’t count the times I watched that movie because for me the music is a very important part of the overall great experience of watching it. I love the Ooogie Booogie Man and his song!

            Sometimes artists are unable to view their work objectively, but ICK! he’s Bhodi Elfman’s uncle (Bhodi – the horse whisperer). That is some fucked up painful irony for me, truly! But anyway, Danny Elfman in an interview “tried” to put a lot of space between him and that video by saying he was barely aware of what the video was going to be like when production was finished. He was very busy and was like “yeah yeah yeah, I trust you, whatever, let’s do this, I’m busy”. So I guess the video should not technically, really be considered “his work” but just the song. But they go hand in hand and I liked the video and of course I love the song! Hey! Did he ever think that maybe his song is so good it breathed a lot of life into the video, kind of like the video married up lol!

  • What’sup

    Often, when one whale beaches itself the other whales follow.

  • Sunny Sands

    Those Skyview condos where TC is buying are very near the Clearwater Marina. Multimillion dollar boats dock there. I think Tom is trying to get closer to his only son, and one way is through boating. I know it sounds corny and old-fashioned, but who else does Tom have?

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Tom on the widow’s walk waiting for C-Squared?

      • Sunny Sands

        I was thinking more of Connor driving to Tom’s place, then they walk together to the marina.

  • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

    Scientologist versus Conspiracy Theorist …who do you think would win?

    • Supper Powers
      • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

        That’s creepy. Is that a conspiracy theorist look?

    • Eivol Ekdal
      • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

        But we love them both! C’mon…

      • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

        …and i love chess , btw. I would totally beat you.

      • Mymy88

        “Scientologist versus Conspiracy Theorist …who do you think would win?”

        Miss Tia. Gah! Did I just say that! That’s incredibly mean. I’ll try to be better.

        ETA: ooops sorry, this reply was meant for meerkat (wogsy)

  • Hey Bunker,
    Tyrion says thanks for keeping his mama calm at the vet today and he promises not to eat rat poison again. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1adb60dc28064915053c64a49b62282f21f4484614ca3fe8881eaac24653bb43.jpg

    • Mymy88

      OMG he’s the cutest thing ever. My little doggie looks a lot like him.I’m so glad he’s going to be fine.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I’m glad Tyrion is OK, Nat. He is such a big eared cutie-pie.

    • Jimmy3

      “Mama… where dem bissits at?”

    • Supper Powers

      Aw, buddy! You better sleep next to your mom tonight and reassure her you’re doing ok!

    • JaxNGold

      Aww…what a precious little baby ❀️

      So glad he’s okay!

    • LongtimeLurker

      Yay! Nawty widdle guy.

    • ReallyMGM

      Glad he’s ok!!!! Isn’t he the one that ate the pen and inked the bed a year or so ago?

      • Yes! XD

        • ReallyMGM

          LOL He’s a pistol! Glad he survived to make you crazy another day. I am convinced that thing about pets lowering your blood pressure is a myth!

    • Contamminated

      Glad he’s feeling better.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Sorry about the deletions folks. Am trying to post more music but the link I’m copying isn’t working when I type it in or try to copy it. Any suggestions from you tech geniuses? Wish I could have a quick mind meld with you.

    • Mymy88

      What’s the name of the song and the artist? I’ll see if it’s on YouTube.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Thanks! It’s on YouTube. Look for Hello Adele Reggae Cover by Conkerah

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      I need more info. What video is it?

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Reggae cover of Adele’s hello by Conkarah

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          What happens when you put in link and press post? Does it come up blank?

          • PerpetualOutflow
            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              It appears the video is private – does this link work for you? This makes me feel like going to Jamaica and smoking a joint.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmnDEUD9NyI

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Yes, that’s it, thanks! And yeah, LOL, it can have that effect.

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              Did you try to post this same one? Same link?

            • PerpetualOutflow

              I tried to post this music video, but you may have found a version of it that isn’t private?

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              I see. If it’s the same video, you posted a private one that is not available to the publc.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Thanks, that splains it. But what is the short cut for copying and pasting in Discus? I typed in the links I posted because they wouldn’t appear when I tried to paste them in.

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              You could 1) click on the youtub link then press CTRL C
              then
              2) Go to Disqus then press CTRL V to paste it in Disqus

              edited for clarification
              eta2: you know you clicked on link when the link turns blue.
              eta3: Hope that helps : )

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Tried that but it didn’t work.

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              You mean clicking on link did not work? do you have a PC?

              eta: if t doesn’t work , blame the reptilians.

        • Mymy88

          Really really nice! (Reggae cover of Adele’s Hello by Conkarah). She sounds a little like Rhianna.

    • noseinabk

      Eric Idle – “Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life” – STEREO HQ
      3:11Β Β·Β YouTube

      Testing

      • noseinabk

        Nope. 😐

  • PerpetualOutflow
    • Jimmy3

      Shaggy was a thoroughly underrated National Treasure.
      http://youtu.be/5K5Dm-o_MEs

      • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

        I saw him in concert. He was pretty awesome.

        • Jimmy3

          What happen. Where dat guy go

          • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

            He’s probably on some fucking island living his life. smoking endless joints.

          • Draco

            He’s still around:
            In 2015, his single “Habibi (I Need Your Love)”, featuring Mohombi, Faydee & Costi peaked at 66 on the Billboard Hot 100, as well as charting in several international territories. Shaggy then featured on the track “Black and White”, from Kylie Minogue and Fernando Garibay’s EP, Kylie + Garibay.
            In 2016 he collaborated with French singer MylΓ¨ne Farmer on “City of Love”.

            • LongtimeLurker

              You’re a fount / font of unexpected knowledge.

            • Draco

              Not really…lazy Saturday morning…just googled him πŸ™‚

            • LongtimeLurker

              Oh. : )

      • PerpetualOutflow

        I don’t get his attraction to “cous cous” perfume.

  • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

    I’ve been doing math calculations at work all day, and I’m burnt out. All I have to say is Fuck Tom Cruise. I love Christians and Muslims, praying is awesome and conspiracy theorists…well…

  • Supper Powers

    I’m in bed, reading and half asleep and just realized I forgot there’s a pretty ripe banana in my purse. Do I just leave it there overnight?

    • Qbird

      How ripe—like black ripe & soft?

      • Supper Powers

        Yellow with a spot of brown. As of this morning anyway. It could look the way you describe by now. God, I’m freaking lazy.

        • Qbird

          don’t worry none. It’ll be there in the morning waiting for you & probably everything will be just fine.

          • Supper Powers

            PO almost had me convinced to get up. Almost. I wonder if I was OT 8 if I could remove the banana from my purse from the comfort of my bed.

            • Qbird

              yeah… magical things.
              I wish i could fly.
              I wish rainwater was beer.
              I wish OT levels were… real & true.
              To sleep, perchance to dream. πŸ™‚

            • PerpetualOutflow

              If you were OTVIII, you’d have that banana flying around the Van Allen Belt by now.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Evacuate it immediately or you will be sorry later.

      • Supper Powers

        How sorry? I’m smooshed beneath this down comforter wth one eye and one hand peeking out. I’m not inclined to face the 50 degree air.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Well, do you want to smell that every time you open your bag in the future? That smell has an uncanny way of lingering. A few minutes of sacrifice now will save you from that painful engram. πŸ˜‰

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      If yoU care about your purse, throw it out or put it in fridge and add it to your smoothie in the morning.

      • Supper Powers

        Damn it. I care. I care very much. Fine. I’ll get up.

        https://media2.giphy.com/media/pwHBncQbG9FPa/giphy.gif

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Haha!! That’s hilarious. 😊

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Can you imagine if he spent the night in your purse what he would smell like in the morning?

        • Draco

          Good choice. Overripe bananas have a tendency to leak. And that’s just ugly.

  • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

    Okay guys, my other half is bitching about me being on the Bunker. I leave you with a Kitten pic f5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66abdda99050d2c7af87983a57b5ac3614f26e2806f4ba59995ab253572431ac.jpg

    • Supper Powers

      Yes go snuggle people that are right there with you! Night.

    • OOkpik

      She’s a beauty!
      <3

    • Liberated

      Oh I love Siamese , I used to have a seal point named Simon.

      • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

        She’s a blue point, I would never have ever imagined that I would be a happy cat owner, πŸ™‚

    • Snippy_X

      I approve this message.

  • Fink Jonas

    Off topic; I just went by big blue…LRH’s way is closed there is a trooper on each entrance and the cops are keeping guard, all the attendees are wearing the Sea Org uniform and they are sitting on the middle of the street. a giant screen was erected,I can hear the leader Sherman speaking on the laud speakers, I believe they are making them watch the IAS event, but why in the middle of the street? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a509931a7bb793475fb7a02c365e998f134a383bf7e508dc90769547029f377b.jpg

    • Draco

      Their version of a street party? Must be very annoying for the neighbors…

      • Fink Jonas

        I was thinking the same , the speakers were loud you could clearly hear DM talking.

        • Draco

          Ugh. Can you imagine trying to sleep, or watch your favourite TV show, and having DM’s voice droning on in the background for 2-3 frigging hours?! And they ALWAYS play his events at super high volume. This must be a part of their “Friday night graduation FUN” they have been advertising.

    • outraged

      They want to make speck tickles of themselves.

    • OOkpik

      Punishment!

    • Liberated

      That’s cold.
      I can’t understand why they don’t just stand up and slowly walk away forever.

      • LongtimeLurker

        It must be part of the endless rollercoaster (you would have a much better idea than I, obviously).

        One minute you’re sitting outside, on a blocked off street, cold, in your ill-fitting fake navy uniform listening to a speech you’ve heard six times already and thinking “…hang on, this is really not working for me…”

        But then an hour later you’re high on Auditine, or from yelling at a subordinate, or enjoying a good crush regging, or thinking you’ve genuinely helped a public, or reading about the last Ideal Org opening, or about next week’s CCHR protest, or whatever it is that floats your boat (healthy or otherwise).

        …and so you can bury the negative feelings about the stupid outdoor Miscavige film night.

        Maybe?

        But god yeah, imagine if half a dozen of the attendees just stood up and walked off. Slowly, like you said.

        Awesome.

  • sizzle8

    Tom Cruise, the sperm donor. It would be a dishonor to use the word ‘father’ with him.

  • Lady Squash

    Beautiful building plans. Hard to imagine TC living there. Not much privacy. But maybe that isn’t important to him anymore. Maybe he’s trying to simplify. Entering a new phase. We’ll see I guess.

  • LongtimeLurker

    The issue of The Simpsons comic that Tony retweeted about (#179) has a brutal parody of Scientology.

    It almost reads like the writer had a personal bone to pick.

    …personal bone…ooo-err

    eta – not the latest issue.

  • Dave Reams

    Sad that Cruise does not aspire to follow the example of LRH and live a simple life in seclusion in an old motor home.

  • coonellie

    Very OT. First time I will not be voting for one of the presidential candidates on the ballot. I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror. I’m depressed. No such thing as the lesser of two evils. Sigh. I just pray that our nation will accept the result (and, please God, not Trump).

    • LongtimeLurker

      For the first time in years, I’m hella glad I don’t live in the US.

      I think it’s no secret here that I’m left-wing, but I’d be pretty unhappy voting Democrat this election. Not that I believe the more extreme claims against Hillary Clinton, there’s more to it than that.

      Our (Australian) system is ass, but it’s a different kind of ass, which at least allows for smaller parties to have some influence. Although that can have downsides, obviously.

      Of course there are European models that are even more genuinely representative *gasp*.

    • ReallyMGM

      I NEVER discuss politics but this has turned into the saddest mess I have witnessed since I registered to vote years ago. I know lifelong friends who are no longer speaking to one another. Worse, I know families who have gotten into screaming matches over it and not speaking. November 8 will come and go, and I hope these friends and families can find peace again.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Brother against brother.

        It’s like the Civil War. Without the cool accents and uniforms.

      • coonellie

        As a Christian, I will pray for the peace of the nation and the wisdom for the the President. That is my duty and I take it seriously. I will support whoever holds the office of leadership even if it means I will no longer have the freedom of free speech.

    • OOkpik

      I’m curious. I do understand thinking (knowing) that neither candidate is what you want as a leader but if you want most that it not be Trump, wouldn’t it make sense to help weight the scales against him?

      • coonellie

        What most people forget is that the US is a Republic. The electoral college votes in the the President, not the popular vote. Tipping a vote for president doesn’t exist. Think George Bush. I’m taking about my conscience. Trump is a…well I can’t even express how awful he is, but Hillary is just as bad, in a different way. My vote doesn’t count as far as the presidential election goes.

        • OOkpik

          Thanks for this. I have so much to learn.

  • LongtimeLurker

    New Post, Bunker peeps.

  • Fink Jonas

    Sounds like Kundun in the making.

  • HeatherGraceful

    Needs an oiliness table.

  • Don’t forget the volleyball court!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=via8G0cqQME

  • Jonathan Cummings

    Tom Cruise might as well move to the center of Scientology life. Scientologists seem to be scarce these days in LA, unless of course you work for the Sea Org.