An actual email conversation, edited lightly only for clarity.
The Bunker: We’re wondering if there’s some relationship between L. Ron Hubbard’s concept that “life is a static” and your description of hyperspace and quantum physics that you have at your website for ProtectPro Technology. Are Scientology concepts compatible with the products you are selling?
Norbert Heuser: Thank you very much for contacting me and your interest in our products. Where do you live? How did you find out about me if you do not mind me asking? My work has no affiliation with Scientology or Hubbard whatsoever. My work is based on quantum physics and I consider both my German countrymen Burkhard Heim and Max Planck as my ‘mentors.’ Scientology is a religious philosophy. My products are designed to help this planet on a physical level (quantum physics) to improve conditions starting to help health and improving water quality etc. ALL MY PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY TESTED BY THE BESA INSTITUTE. I take the liberty in giving you a bit of a crash course as written below to explain the different products to you as far as it concerns ProtectPro Products and their protection from electromagnetic radiation and covering other issues.
The Bunker: Thank you for that generous amount of information, Mr. Heuser. We’re in New York, and a link to one of your videos was forwarded by one of our readers. We’re interested in the fact that a Scientologist in Clearwater was working in a field like quantum physics, and it just made us wonder about it. Do you find that other Scientologists have an interest in your products?
Heuser: My HQ and studies is in Germany as well as the production. People who realize that for example electromagnetic radiation (and other issues) screws up the life on this planet reach out to me. Scientologists or not, I do not know and I do not ask. And to 99 percent of our customers I do not know them and do not know how they found me. Many through my seminars and many more so through my talk shows in Europe and the USA. My products are not geared for Scientologist, they are designed for mankind.
The Bunker: The explanation of your technology is very interesting, the distinction between the Reference Space and Hyperspace. And because testing devices that might detect radiation are in the Reference Space only, they won’t be able to detect any changes that your technology makes in Hyperspace. As you say, “This type of measuring device can only measure the values in the physical Reference Space. It cannot measure changes in Hyperspace…The natural harmful radiation on earth is still there, but it no longer has a disruptive, harmful effect.” If standard measuring devices can’t detect any change in radiation caused by your products, how does a customer verify that they are being protected? Do you provide them with something that will demonstrate the change in Hyperspace to verify that the product is working?
Heuser: The average customer cannot verify it him or herself. Besides they never verified that these gadgets they are using are not harmful. And who verifies that your car has the horsepower as advertised etc.? On our website are 1500 pages of the BESA Institute which has scientifically tested all our products and certified.
The Bunker: It’s interesting that BESA’s analysis appears to be measuring skin galvanism — very much like the Scientology E-meter.
Heuser: No, not at all. It measures the energy on Chinese acupuncture (ting) points.
The Bunker: OK, thank you for clearing that up. We find you listed in Scientology WISE directories for a couple of different Clearwater businesses, KS Audio and Planet Music. Are you still in the musical instrument and audio business?
Heuser: No. By now I am not really sure what this is all about and where you are going with all this?
The Bunker: We’re interested in how you arrived to this point, selling technology that you say will protect people from 5G. We find it interesting that you’re a Scientologist in Clearwater who has operated businesses in the WISE network. And we are intrigued by this statement on your literature: “C 19 the biggest false flag operation ever in history.” We assume you mean “Covid 19” when you say “C 19.” So you’re proposing that it’s the effects of 5G technology that are causing the pandemic, not a virus? How is Covid 19 a “false flag operation”?
Heuser: What has the one to do with the others? If I would run a restaurant now it would make more sense to you? I never said that you are making this up I guess and you try to put words in my mouth. Sorry I will not continue this conversation.
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“Age is hooked on to the body, normally, by the thetan himself as self-expression. And it is held in place in terms of engrams and secondaries. It’s held right there, man. Anything that is wrong with a body is held into it and on it by the thetan who has that body. That’s it. As long as he believes he can’t grow a new leg, he won’t have one, either.” — L. Ron Hubbard, September 20, 1962
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“FESTIVAL: Completions are up! The Ringmaster was gone for a while but made it anyway. Ten lions failed to report to their pedestals. A difficult knot will now be tied in their tails to give them enough problems. Then they’ll be able to audit. Somehow the show went on and went on very well. TODAY we are going to shoot the roof off.” — The Commodore, September 20, 1971
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“I find Mission Earth insanely good, the only thing is that Hubbard uses so many unusual words, man was he a writer! you have to use study tech all the way through, then read it for a second time and the second time you can enjoy it much more, it’s so deep that earthlings cant appreciate it.”
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2001: The National Mental Health Association issued a press release on September 17 criticizing the placement of a Scientology phone number on Fox News during coverage of the World Trade Centers disaster. “The National Mental Health Association (NMHA) today is warning the public and media to beware of representatives of the Church of Scientology who are claiming to be mental health professionals assisting individuals in New York City. ‘This is a very important and sensitive time,’ said Michael M. Faenza, President and CEO of NMHA. ‘I urge the Church of Scientology to stay out of mental health. The public needs to understand that the Scientologists are using this tragedy to recruit new members. They are not providing mental health assistance.’ Faenza said Fox News had been broadcasting an 800 help line for ‘National Mental Health Assistance’ and the network was unaware that the number was being answered by the Scientologist’s center in Los Angeles.”
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“Seeing as how there’s no objective reality in Scientology, everything is a game. The Thetans created the MEST universe so they could have a playground to play in.”
Full Court Press: What we’re watching at the Underground Bunker
Criminal prosecutions:
— Danny Masterson charged for raping three women: Next hearing set for November 10. Trial tentatively scheduled for February.
— Jay and Jeff Spina, Medicare fraud: Jay sentenced to 9 years in prison. Jeff’s sentencing to be scheduled.
— Hanan and Rizza Islam and other family members, Medi-Cal fraud: Pretrial conference October 7 in Los Angeles
— David Gentile, GPB Capital, fraud: Next pretrial conference set for November 19.
— Joseph ‘Ben’ Barton, Medicare fraud: Pleaded guilty, awaiting sentencing.
Civil litigation:
— Luis and Rocio Garcia v. Scientology: Oral arguments were heard on July 30, 2020 at the Eleventh Circuit
— Valerie Haney v. Scientology: Forced to ‘religious arbitration.’ Petition to US Supreme Court submitted on May 26. Scientology responded on June 25.
— Chrissie Bixler et al. v. Scientology and Danny Masterson: California Supreme Court granted review on May 26 and asked the Second Appellate Division to direct Judge Steven Kleifield to show cause why he granted Scientology’s motion for arbitration. Oral arguments scheduled for Oct 5.
— Matt and Kathy Feschbach tax debt: Eleventh Circuit ruled on Sept 9 that Feshbachs can’t discharge IRS debt in bankruptcy. Dec 17: Feshbachs sign court judgment obliging them to pay entire $3.674 million tax debt, plus interest from Nov 19.
— Brian Statler Sr v. City of Inglewood: Third amended complaint filed, trial set for Nov 9, 2021.
— Author Steve Cannane defamation trial: Trial concluded, Cannane victorious, awarded court costs. Case appealed on Dec 23. Appeal hearing held Aug 23-27.
Concluded litigation:
— Dennis Nobbe, Medicare fraud, PPP loan fraud: Charged July 29. Bond revoked Sep 14. Nobbe dead, Sep 14.
— Jane Doe v. Scientology (in Miami): Jane Doe dismissed the lawsuit on May 15 after the Clearwater Police dropped their criminal investigation of her allegations.
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THE PROSECUTION OF DANNY MASTERSON
We first broke the news of the LAPD’s investigation of Scientology celebrity Danny Masterson on rape allegations in 2017, and we’ve been covering the story every step of the way since then. At this page we’ve collected our most important links, including our four days in Los Angeles covering the preliminary hearing and its ruling, which has Danny facing trial and the potential sentence of 45 years to life in prison.
After the success of their double-Emmy-winning, three-season A&E series ‘Scientology and the Aftermath,’ Leah Remini and Mike Rinder continue the conversation on their podcast, ‘Scientology: Fair Game.’ We’ve created a landing page where you can hear all of the episodes so far.
LEAH REMINI: SCIENTOLOGY AND THE AFTERMATH
An episode-by-episode guide to Leah Remini’s three-season, double-Emmy winning series that changed everything for Scientology watching. Originally aired from 2016 to 2019 on the A&E network, and now on Netflix.
SCIENTOLOGY’S CELEBRITIES, from A to Z
Find your favorite Hubbardite celeb at this index page — or suggest someone to add to the list!
Other links: SCIENTOLOGY BLACK OPS: Tom Cruise and dirty tricks. Scientology’s Ideal Orgs, from one end of the planet to the other. Scientology’s sneaky front groups, spreading the good news about L. Ron Hubbard while pretending to benefit society. Scientology Lit: Books reviewed or excerpted in a weekly series. How many have you read?
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THE WHOLE TRACK
[ONE year ago] How should we judge the rejection Scientology received in the heartland this week?
[TWO years ago] Garcias answer Scientology’s cross-appeal, COSRECI coughs up dox, and a new church vid!
[THREE years ago] Scientology ‘disconnection’ and the incalculable damage it does to children
[FOUR years ago] Of course Jada Smith was a Scientologist, says principal who ran her Scientology school
[FIVE years ago] Marty Singer: Cat White asked Jim Carrey to marry her and he turned her down
[SIX years ago] L. Ron Hubbard, would-be conqueror: Scientology’s fable about Rhodesia is a riot
[SEVEN years ago] Sneaky Scientology finds another way to get access to high school students
[EIGHT years ago] JENNA HILL RESPONDS TO BARBARA WALTERS ON SCIENTOLOGY EDUCATION
[TEN years ago] Scientology Has Marty Rathbun Arrested
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Bernie Headley (1952-2019) did not see his daughter Stephanie in his final 5,667 days.
Valerie Haney has not seen her mother Lynne in 2,429 days.
Katrina Reyes has not seen her mother Yelena in 2,934 days
Sylvia Wagner DeWall has not seen her brother Randy in 2,454 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his grandson Leo in 1,474 days.
Geoff Levin has not seen his son Collin and daughter Savannah in 1,365 days.
Christie Collbran has not seen her mother Liz King in 4,672 days.
Clarissa Adams has not seen her parents Walter and Irmin Huber in 2,540 days.
Carol Nyburg has not seen her daughter Nancy in 3,314 days.
Doug Kramer has not seen his parents Linda and Norm in 1,644 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 4,118 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 3,434 days.
Dylan Gill has not seen his father Russell in 12,000 days.
Melissa Paris has not seen her father Jean-Francois in 7,919 days.
Valeska Paris has not seen her brother Raphael in 4,087 days.
Mirriam Francis has not seen her brother Ben in 3,668 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 3,929 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 2,966 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy and daughter Jessica in 2,680 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 2,205 days.
Julian Wain has not seen his brother Joseph or mother Susan in 560 days.
Charley Updegrove has not seen his son Toby in 1,735 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 6,286 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 3,435 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 3,755 days.
Roger Weller has not seen his daughter Alyssa in 8,610 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 3,729 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 2,085 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin and daughter Taryn in 6,388 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 2,494 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis in 2,892 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 2,768 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 2,351 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike and daughter Emily in 2,846 days.
Mary Jane Barry has not seen her daughter Samantha in 3,100 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 14,209 days.
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Posted by Tony Ortega on September 20, 2021 at 07:00
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