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Scientology’s sneaky strategy: Suck up to police departments through ‘Drug-Free’ campaigns

 
Our man who keeps an eye on Scientology front groups, Rod Keller, is watching Scientology’s increasing involvement with law enforcement. Here’s his report…

Scientologists received a remarkable request recently from Clearwater member Patrick Clouden. Clouden is a large donor to Scientology, and in particular to the Foundation for a Drug-Free World. The flier he put out says that the Clearwater Police Department has asked Scientology for help dealing with the increase in the use of synthetic drugs in the city, and volunteers are being asked to come to meet at the storefront headquarters on social reform row on Fort Harrison Ave. (This is the same police department that Scientology protested in 1997, during which they taunted the chief with the chant “Sid Klein, What’s Your Crime?”)

 

 
The Clearwater police recall the contact with Scientology differently. It was Scientology that approached the police, and not the other way around, the department tells us in a statement:

The Foundation for a Drug-Free World Florida approached the Clearwater Police Department asking what it could do to help address drug problems in the community. We shared with the representatives a concerning trend related to synthetic drugs or “spice.” The foundation created a drug awareness pamphlet on synthetic drugs and distributed it in the community. The Clearwater Police Department welcomes any attempt by any group to try to put a dent in the drug problem. Our officers see the effects of synthetic drugs on a sometimes daily basis on the streets of Clearwater; any effort to warn potential users about the dangers is welcome.

 
The Scientology booklet on synthetic drugs is one of a series produced in the Truth About Drugs series, and describes the dangers of synthetic marijuana, known as K2 or Spice. Clearwater is not alone in seeing an increase in use of the drug, variaties of which are legal in some countries where marijuana is not. The drug is linked to seizures, kidney damage, strokes and is generally seen as an unsafe alternative to marijuana.

 

 
Seeking the sanction of police officials is a growing trend among branches of the Foundation for a Drug-Free World. Bernard and Meghan Fialkoff recently won Scientology’s Freedom Medal for their work with the Foundation, which bestows significant prestige within the Scientology community.

 

 
The remarkable aspect of their work is that the Fialkoffs have recruited New York City police officers to distribute the booklets and participate in presentations to school assemblies. The New York branch has branded itself Foundation for a Drug Free World of the Americas, and the staff pose in the photo below with the seven division “org board” of their branch.

 

 
The Fialkoffs recently hosted the annual Drug Free Hero awards banquet, honoring police officers and others, with speakers including New York State Senator Tony Avella and James J. Hunt (below), Special Agent in Charge of the New York District for the Drug Enforcement Agency. New York is moving up the chain of law enforcement officials from local police to the feds, and Scientologists in other states are taking notice. New York may be providing the blueprint for the leaders of other branches to receive their own Freedom Medals.

 

 
In Florida, in addition to seeking the sanction of the Clearwater police, Scientology is recruiting county law enforcement. In May, Deputy David Mireles from the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office presented Scientology’s drug program at Southeast High School in Bradenton, Florida. He is seen below with Drug Free World Florida’s president Lynn Posyton.

 

 
In California, the Sacramento branch of the Foundation has long enjoyed the support of the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department. Members of their Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM) group participated in an event at the org in 2016, below.

 

 
This year they are also moving up to higher level officials, and will host DEA Supervising Special Agent Rebecca Caseres tonight at the org to recognize the United Nation’s International Day Against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking.

 

 
Scientology has encountered resistance from school officials for their drug education programs. Santa Monica High School recently canceled the program after it became known that the Foundation for a Drug Free World is actually a part of Scientology. Their answer to expand the program in the U.S. may be to recruit law enforcement at the city, county or federal level as allies.

 
— Rod Keller

 
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Amy Scobee responds to Marty Rathbun

Amy Scobee put out a self-published book in 2010, Abuse at the Top, about her experiences in the Sea Org and her escape from Scientology. It’s a fine book, but it reached a limited audience.

She also spoke out on the “Truth Rundown,” an epic series in the St. Petersburg Times that also featured former church official Marty Rathbun. Although this was an effective newspaper series, it was a regional newspaper.

Several years later, Amy’s mother Bonny Elliott was dying of cancer. Leah Remini had the foresight to send a camera crew to interview Bonny during her final weeks in order to get on tape her thoughts about being disconnected from Amy, and how the two of them had defied Scientology to defeat this toxic policy.

Last year, Leah took that footage and convinced the A&E Network that it should be the seed for an entire series about how the Church of Scientology rips apart families and harms its members.

Amy and her mother Bonny were featured in the opening episode of the series, which reached more than 2 million viewers nationally. It was the most-watched premiere for an A&E series in two years. And not only was the series a huge success, it literally changed the way Scientology is being talked about in the national media.

Now, Marty Rathbun, as part of his bizarre series of videos attacking Remini and others who speak out about Scientology’s abuses, is saying that Amy Scobee and Leah Remini somehow foisted a sham on the American people. Why? Because, he says, Amy had already told her story in 2010 in her book, and so in 2016 when they presented her story on television, it was somehow manipulative and untrue.

“It begins with episode one, which is literally from beginning to end a manufactured story,” Rathbun said on his most recent video segment. “Amy Scobee told her story in 2009. That’s seven years before that, OK? Amy Scobee wasn’t in need of somebody to do a program — she wrote a book in 2009. But according to episode one, Amy came to her to resolve this problem of being disconnected from her mother, in 2016. Except that Amy’s been connected with her mother since 2010. So in other words they literally manufactured and made up this story.”

Can you follow Rathbun’s logic? Amy reunited with her mother because the two of them were brave enough to defy Scientology. Leah Remini managed to get Bonny on camera to talk about that experience before she died in 2015. But Rathbun says it’s “manufactured and made up” to create a television show and present their story.

We asked Amy about it, and she sent us this response…

“Sad. Marty must have been paid a pretty penny to sell out his soul like this. My mom and I wanted to warn people of Scientology’s disconnection policy which destroys families. And we did.”

To review: Bonny Elliott’s dying wish was to warn the public about how Scientology rips apart families. Thankfully, Leah Remini made that happen. And now, Marty Rathbun calls that a sham.

Meanwhile, at his website, a few diehards who still support him are rooting him on.

Imagine the warped mind that would write this:

“How could Leah do anything for Amy, aside from just air her β€˜story’? Disconnection stories are aired all the time and it doesn’t resolve them….Why Amy would want to participate in a sham is something only she could answer. It’s really a shame.”

 
——————–

Rathbun videos now featured on Scientology smear site — what a surprise

And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Rathbun’s series of videos about Leah Remini is now an official addition to the Church of Scientology’s site that is set up to smear Remini and her show guests. Also included is a brief segment from a home video of Rathbun’s wedding.

Well, we suppose we shouldn’t be too surprised…

 

 
——————–

Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,793 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 2,550 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,896 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,390 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,430 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,142 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 668 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,757 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,897 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,217 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,192 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 548 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,850 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 957 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,359 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,232 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 813 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,318 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,562 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,671 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 26, 2017 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
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  • It’s probably been mentioned, but the raid is off.

    Scientology cancels planned mock FBI raid on downtown building June 26, 2017, Tracey McManus, Tampa Bay Times

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      “Shaw said the filming was part of a short documentary ‘that focuses on what Scientologists do around the world to help better society, including assisting law enforcement and the justice system crack down on
      crime.’ ”

      Are there unicorns and leprechauns in this documentary too?

  • TexasBroad
    • salin

      Yikes. Where are you, Roswell?

    • Sherbet

      Are somebody’s cans getting squeezed?

  • AntoniaW

    Christ, the astonishing ineffectiveness of Scientology and “the Tech”. I won’t say anything about Marty 7 on Mike Rinder, other than that it’s even lower than he’s yet sunk, because at least 30 of you have said it all below with great eloquence.

    But re safe pointing: even that always ends up as a fuck up. A UK example: we have an elderly peer, Lord Duncan McNair. He trades a lot on his peerage; in fact, it’s almost all he has to offer. If you’re a British snob, you’ll know that he’s only a 3rd-generation peer, so the currency isn’t that rare or valuable. Anyway, McNair is a Scilon and has operated a number of small UK business enterprises. One of these was Strategic Resolution, operating out of 30 Shelley Road, East Grinstead, RH19 1SY: http://strategicresolution.co.uk/political_background.html

    At the same address we find the wonderfully named Safe Point Consulting: http://www.marketingplusmore.co.uk/marketer/517721/safe-point-consulting

    – but this indefatigable $cilon has his main profile as President & Non-Profit CEO of Alchemy Business Management (arf arf, alchemy indeed…):http://alchemybm.com/our-team/ , whose website states, “He is currently consulting to the Global Network for Rights and Development, an international NGO that has UN contracts for ensuring that aid funds are properly used. (www.gnrd.net) as their UK Public Affairs Advisor and internationally as an education and political PR consultant.”

    GNRD, or Global Network for Rights & Developments, is so mired in investigations & allegations of fraud that it’s hard to know where to start, but here’s the obvious place: http://al-bab.com/blog/2016/01/gnrd-scandal

    So a full-on British Scilon with 20 years experience in “safe pointing”, so convinced of the merits of the Tech that he’s even associated with a company called Safe Point Consulting, can’t keep his sorry arse out of the mud. GNRD, btw, adopted vicious smear tactics against a British journalist who started to investigate them, including publishing allegations online that he had tried to pay for gay sex in the Yemen. A very dangerous rumour to spread about someone working in the Middle East. Sound familiar?

    – Sorry about this long rant, just couldn’t help myself.

    • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

      *face-plant* British peer, wish he’d take a long walk off a short one!

      • AntoniaW

        Too right.

  • nottrue
    • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

      Woah! These turn arounds are making me dizzy.

      • Sherbet

        Seat belts and shoulder harnesses will be provided to anyone who insists on watching Marty’s videos. These safety measures should reduce incidents of whiplash.

        • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

          Nope. Not watching anymore vids. I feel like i’ve just spent an hour on the waltzers after a few Vieux Carre’s. Got the major spins.

        • JaxNGold

          I didn’t watch any past the first two. Simply can’t. It pisses me off beyond belief and that lying prick isn’t worth my time or energy.

          • Sherbet

            You’ve watched two more than I did.

            • JaxNGold

              Good. You saved yourself a headache.

    • Sherbet

      I wonder if he needed a little A-1 Sauce to help him eat his words.

      • Lolow 0708

        castor oil, the little sh#@

        • Sherbet

          That’s gotta hurt — all those words and all that castor oil.

          • Lolow 0708

            one can only hope.

          • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

            He’ll be doing more than a ‘little’ s**t with all that oil. I’d give it few minutes if i were you!

    • TonyOrtega

      Nice find.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      SHhh-Bap! Mutty refuting Mutty, in his very own words…again!

      What’s that now, something like thirty cited instances of PT Mutty calling “past tense” Mutty a liar?

    • Mockingbird

      His words go down like acid. Never smooth.

  • chukicita

    I think Mycroft posted about this downstream but now I can’t find it because Disqus.

    The cameras didn’t show up at the big FBI raid reenactment. Neither did the actors.

    “Scientology spokesman Ben Shaw said late Monday in a statement: “You
    didn’t see the filming because, as it turned out, the video team found a
    better location for their production.”

    Shaw said the filming was part of a short documentary “that focuses
    on what Scientologists do around the world to help better society,
    including assisting law enforcement and the justice system crack down on
    crime.”

    Shaw said Monday’s shoot related to a 2016 FBI raid on a Florida
    doctor convicted for Medicaid fraud, although he did not provide the
    name of the doctor….”

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/today-scientology-to-film-mock-fbi-raid-on-downtown-building/2328504

    • Sherbet

      Sounds really plausible.

      • salin

        “Really. Believe me.” πŸ˜‰

        • Sherbet

          Scientology’s go-to alibi: “We’re filming a documentary.”

    • Observer

      Pffffffffffffffffffffft

    • chukicita

      It says “Ben Shaw” but I hear the quote in Ken Delusion’s voice.

    • Gus Cox

      I wonder if it was that scientology doctor who got his license suspended for prescribing controlled substances to Lisa McPherson without ever seeing her? Or maybe the guy who got nailed for Medicare fraud who now runs a sleep apnea company… what’s his name? Oh, yeah, Vic Tipnes.

      Probably not.

      • chukicita

        I’m thinking if this is a Scientology production it’s probably acting out some CCHR dream about blowing up mental health doctors .

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    I saw that Chris Shelton posted this. Don’t know if it’s already been posted here:

    http://www.westword.com/news/howdycon-draws-scientology-critics-to-denver-9197877

    • Sherbet

      Nice. But it implies all attendees are former scientologists.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I see that, though he includes “Regular commenters” in the first paragraph.

        • Sherbet

          It doesn’t really matter, anyway. It was a nice piece.

      • Jimmy3

        I used your name when I did some online courses. You are officially-sorta an ex.

        • Sherbet

          That’s OK. What’s a little cultishness among friends? Do you need my credit card number to pay for any other courses?

          • Jimmy3

            No, that’s kind of you to offer, but I just use your name on checks. Sherb “Boing!” O’Sherbetson.
            (I know that’s not your middle name, but the boing is because they bounce. They haven’t said anything about it yet.)

            • Sherbet

              Remarkably enough, that IS my middle name. You must be psychic.

    • Missionary Kid

      I talked to Alan Prendergrast for a while while we were eating, and he caught the spirit of the gathering very well, I’d say.

  • Kim O’Brien
    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      It’s Beautiful!

      • Kim O’Brien

        it really is

    • salin

      I want one!

      • Sherbet

        Too bad it wouldn’t fit on a T-shirt, because I would definitely want one.

        • salin

          I’d get the Tshirt – even if the images were so small that they are hard to see. A mug or refridge magnet- too small. Think how much bigger a tshirt image is… starts seeming promising in that relative view.

          • Sherbet

            It could be vertically cut down the middle with one half on the front of the shirt and one half on the back. Or I could gain 87 pounds and the whole thing would fit on one side.

            Anyway, HowdyCon is over, so I think T-shirt options are history.

            • salin

              Pshaw – take HowdyCon off and just say UB 2017. Fresh sell for another 6 months.

        • Liberated

          The image is available on everything from coffee cups, business and post cards, and everything vistaprint has to offer.

          • Sherbet

            Is there a clear file of it somewhere?

            • Liberated

              Yes, on my vistaprint account – but you’ll have to ask Dice about downloading the image for yourself.
              I’m not sure.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks.

            • Liberated

              I have a 12’x18″ on my closet door. It’s a rough draft from staples.
              It took a while to get it just right.
              I guess I could get smaller ones made up, that was part of our plan – just don’t know how to send them to everyone.

            • Sherbet

              It’s OK. I just like seeing it pop up here in the Bunker from time to time. I don’t really need to have it printed anywhere.

          • PerpetualOutflow

            Placemats might be the right size.

            • Liberated

              Maybe ….there’s also posters in several sizes.
              This one is vinyl – 2.5′ x 4′

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Is there a link to order it on VistaPrint or do we have to download our own images and pick the product we want?

        • Liberated

          I just checked vistaprint, you can get a T-shirt.
          It’s under clothing & bags.

    • Kristen

      How nice!!!

      THat would be a great traditional gift to give the organizer each year. Maybe even rent a photo booth for the main get-together?

      • Kim O’Brien

        well ..i eff’d up and gave ppl the wrong address by one number ( fat thumbs )

        this should have been at HowdyCon πŸ™

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Don’t beat yourself up. Please? You did a wonderful, fabulous, stupendous and lovely job!

          • Kim O’Brien

            i won’t . my ex catholic is showing πŸ˜‰ it really is fantastic though . i love looking at all the avi’s . so creative

          • Sherbet

            That’s what we all heard.

            • Observer

              You heard right

        • salin

          It SHOULD be at future HowdyCons. Like a “time capsule” of the Bunker in 2017. Also sets a ritual for future HowdyCons – not nec. the same idea/type of image, but capturing the sense of the community in that year.

          • Kim O’Brien

            perfect

        • Supper Powers

          Falls under the category of “shit happens”. Sounds like you are a world class party planner, Kim!

          • Missionary Kid

            Kim is a WORLD CLASS PARTY PLANNER. Every place she chose for gatherings, all of the little goodies that we got, (pins and plastic cups) and the people who appeared were fantastic.

            We had posters all around with the various shoops that Observer did.

            The bartenders and staff at the bar/restaurant where we all got together Saturday night had a good time and they REALLY paid attention to the talks and performances.

            I ate so many of the plentiful hors d’oeuvres (what a friend of mine calls horses’ ovaries) that I couldn’t eat much of the dinner. I apologized to the staff when I had so much left on my plate. My stomach’s big, but my eyes were bigger.

            • Supper Powers

              Oh this is so great to hear!

          • Liberated

            We decided UPS …is evil and part of SMERSH.

    • Supper Powers

      Fridge magnets! To hold up our favorite caek recipes!

    • JaxNGold

      So cool! I couldn’t make it to HowdyCon this year but at least my avi is there! ❀️

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      I see me!

    • Rasha

      Found me!!!! ^_^ This is sooooo coool!!!!!!!

      • Rasha

        Can’t believe I’m on there with you guys!

        • Jimmy3

          Are you the cat or the bird?

          • Sherbet

            She’s right beside that person over there.

            • Jimmy3

              That’s a dog.

            • Sherbet

              *putting on glasses* Oh, right.

            • Rasha

              I’ve been using the wrong avatar all this time??????

            • Sherbet

              *putting on glasses again* Is that you under aquaclara? You’re good.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I found me!

      • Sherbet

        I found you, me, and lots of people I can’t put a name to.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      The old me!

      • Rasha

        Keep hitting F5. It takes a while sometime….

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Whatchu talkin’ bought, Willis?

          • Rasha

            Refreshing your avatar. That’s the Bunker, right?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Yeah, this Hubbard doll cracked me up and I knew it was time for a change.

          • Sherbet

            She’s kidding you.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ha! You’re right. Ol’ Hubturd getting slow.

            • Rasha

              -_^

    • Liberated

      I thought of something, if it had been any day but a Friday they would have delivered it.
      They had the right address when I called and could have taken the extra two minutes, but they were looking forward to punching the clock to start their weekend. IMHO !

      • Kim O’Brien

        i think we should just have next years banner delivered one day late . one purpose . like a tradition ( kidding ..LOL )

        • Liberated

          I already thought of that.

    • MrsLurksALot

      This is really awesome!

    • Sandy

      My dear bird has passed away since. So nice to see him memorialized like this! Thanks.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Sorry, Sandy. How old was he?

        • Sandy

          he was 13. His name was Peaches. We were best buds.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Aww, that’s sweet.

    • Noesis

      That is awesome.

    • Juicer77

      Applause!

    • nice, makes me feel a little like I was there πŸ˜‰

      • Andrew Robertson

        Me too!

        Andrew

  • Supper Powers

    I just finished the second half of Marty’s 7th diatribe. It was clear he is an awful human being in the first half when he went after his friend. In the second half, that he used his friend’s disconnected CHILDREN as a weapon is unforgivable. It’s loathsome. It’s truly Scientology at its finest.

    ❀️ Rinder ❀️

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      You’ve been watching the rue master’s vids? No wonder you’re drunk.

    • ReneeG

      I just watched it (thank you Hibernia Eugenesis, I refuse to click on the original) and I felt very sad. I feel for,Mike and Christy; how awful to be betrayed in such a cruel fashion. David Miscavige is flailing around, trying desperately to do whatever he can to save his ever diminishing empire, and destroying lives as quickly as he can in the process. He destroyed Marty’s life (with Marty’s puzzling participation) and is trying to use Marty to slime as many people as he can until Marty is all used up. It didn’t have to be this way, Marty. It didn’t have to be this way.

      • Supper Powers

        Yeah, you right.

      • Puget Buckeye

        I’ve also been waiting for Hibernia’s videos. I won’t click on the original.

  • Princess Poopypants
  • AntoniaW

    O/T but I loved this comment on Mike Rinder’s blog by I Yawnalot, because it seems to encapsulate the texts of Scientology so perfectly: “Step right up for the greatest disappointment on earth…”

    • Rasha

      Vokka!!! …with audio! *^_^*

    • chukicita

      Is that DMs drum kit?

      • Observer

        Hahaha!

      • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

        Don’t care who it belongs to, i wannit!!

    • Rasha

      Seriously, nice lighting on the skull. ^_^

      • daisy

        Oh thank goodness , other people see the skull too.

        • Rasha

          XD

          • XD 9 Springfield here.

            • Rasha

              If it don’t accept a nail coil or a straightline rail, it don’t go shhhhBAP!!… -_^

            • Roger that.

        • Observer

          Haha!

        • GfldedKim

          .πŸ˜‚

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Shame on you, Marty. How can you look into your wife’s or child’s eyes and pretend to be an honest, good husband and father?

    • Jimmy3
      • Rasha

        Let the nightmares begin…..

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Let the nightmares continue…

          • Rasha

            O.o

            Good point….

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        TC should have practiced the withdrawl method.

        • daisy

          So should of his parents. Sorry I am bitchy , I have been wearing a bra and pants all day.

          • Sherbet

            Job interview?

            • daisy

              Why on earth would someone wear pants to an interview ?

            • Rasha

              *clink*

            • Sherbet

              Depends on the job.

            • daisy

              Yes that is right . I wear depends .

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Jinx.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I always wear Depends on the job….just in case.

            • PattyCakenfeld

              Belinda Blumenthal fan?

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            You get them in the right positions this time?

        • Jimmy3

          He does his own stunts, you know.. for his last trick, he made the audience for The Mummy disappear. /jig

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            He’s stunted alright.

    • gtsix

      TR-L motherfuckah! (I’ve heard kids can tell when you’re lying, and wives don’t care as long as their Bentley is fully loaded)

  • Supper Powers

    OK, I am drunk, and as I look around with my hands on my hips, bobbin’ my head, I have to say….

    Humpf…. Ain’t we sumpin?!

    Sounds like HowdyCon really was awesome!

    • Rasha

      *miss*

      *miss aigin again*

      *clink*

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous
      • gtsix

        We’re not drunk as long as we keep drinking.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Oh my GAWD, that makes so much sense right now!

      • Rasha

        I ain’t drunked, but this glass will be….

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Mah girl! [cli–wait, where did I put my glass?]

    • daisy

      We will show them how to drink next year. Yes we are sumpin .

      • Supper Powers

        Daisy Mae, you an me is walkin’ in arm in arm and we will show ’em how it’s done!

    • Missionary Kid

      It was awesome. It was better than the Bunker because we didn’t have to use any emoticons, and a lot of hugging went on.

      I offered to buy Derek the poster of himself, and he said that he’d rather that I bought it for myself. I did, and had him autograph it. I was touched when he wrote on it that I was the uncle he never had. I was touched, to say the least.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Great memory to keep from Howdycon.

        • Missionary Kid

          It was one among many, but one of the best.

      • Puget Buckeye

        That’s very sweet.

  • Missionary Kid

    I kinda embarrassed Chris Shelton’s fiancee when I told her, in front of Chris, that she disappointed a lot of women when it came out that they were engaged, but I also told them that a lot of people were happy for them.

    • daisy

      You have given us the impression you were older. That picture of you belies that.

      • Kestrel

        A pile of dirt called him gramps.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Wow, that’s rough. I’m laughing though.

          • Kestrel

            He’d find it funny.

            I hope.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I think so. Remember when some folks around here thought Jimmy3 was an old guy too?

            • Kestrel

              How strange. I thought he was twelve.

            • gtsix

              15 1/2

            • Jimmy3

              I cast the Mummy Curse on all of you

            • gtsix

              I said you look young! Fabulous skin, a zest for life, the usual . Pbbblllt, ingrate.

            • Jimmy3

              Oh, thank you. My skincare secret is Charmin.

            • gtsix

              Pardon me if I refrain from squeezing, I respect personal boundaries.

            • Rasha

              J3’s a guy???

            • Rasha

              …couldn’t pass that one up. I drun going sleep. night Bunks.

            • iampissed

              I think your ok.

      • Missionary Kid

        Hey, I earned all my wrinkles. It took me 72 years. πŸ˜›

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      You have no idea how many times I’ve looked at that ice cream website to see those photos of the lemon blueberry. First thing I’m going to do next visit.

      • Missionary Kid

        A group of us went back the Sunday, and we all were blown away again. Saturday, when I listened to one of the owners talk with Kestrel, he said that he was given a food award for his ice cream, and when he appeared to receive it, every other person who introduced himself was a well-known chef with years and years of experience. The way he told it, he felt humbled to be in the presence of such an august panel.

        He told them that he’d only been making ice cream for a short time, and that he was a former IT guy who went through Penn State’s Berkey Creamery program. Of course, the program takes a s scientific approach to dairy products. It’s been doing that since 1865! http://creamery.psu.edu/

        • gtsix

          You went twice! Gah! (Had an orange push-up today… ahhh childhood)

          • Sherbet

            The wooden stick used to make me skeeve if it touched my teeth.

          • Missionary Kid

            I wasn’t planning on going, but the some of the group that met for brunch on Sunday decided to go on their own, and I tagged along. It was great to have my high opinion of the ice cream validated.

            • Sherbet

              HowdyCone

            • Missionary Kid

              That would be a good name for the experience.

            • Kestrel

              I’m going to share your reviews with my friend when I catch up at work. Thank you, Kid.

            • Missionary Kid

              Please do. There were at least 6 of us, and the feeling was unanimous. I have to figure out a way to post pictures of the speakeasy I took, too. Please insert your own name instead of Kestrel on the one I wrote earlier when you give it to him. You are also authorized to use my real name.

              I grabbed Claire and Mark Headley and Aaron Smith Levin and told them about Frozen Matter, as well as about the speak easy in the back and showed them the pictures. I wanted to encourage all the people who live in the Denver area to try the ice cream or other frozen goodies. A business that provides that much pleasure deserves success.

            • TexasBroad

              It was excellent!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          What flavor did you try the 2nd visit?

          • Missionary Kid

            It was a rhubarb port. I can’t remember the exact name. I liked the lemon blueberry that I had the first time better, but I wanted to experiment. It still was excellent. Yes, I licked the bowl again.

            By the way, they make waffle bowls on the spot for your ice cream, too, if you want one.

            • iampissed

              It’s so much fun now that I can see your face.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Hey …just to remind everyone .

    Colin sent the pins ( love )
    Sherb sent the fortune cookies ( ate more than 5 )
    The bunker came up with the idea for the Bunker cups
    Dice and Liberated did a great banner
    Tony batted his eyelashes and got some amazing guests
    Dibythesea ( with one N πŸ˜‰ hooked us up at the hotel patio with a great wine and apps table
    Texas Broad ( aka ..the ” other Kim ” ..;) got amazing cupcakes and a cake for Chris and his fiancee
    Redfisch printed out some wonderful posters
    Obs did the HowdyCon logo
    Dice made the web site
    No ones check bounced πŸ˜‰

    Total group effort for HowdyCon . Love all youse guys

    • Jimmy3

      When is it

      • Kim O’Brien

        tomorrow Jimmy . It’s tomorrow

        • Jimmy3

          Settin my fitbit alarm

          • Kim O’Brien

            dinner on the west side , then at the Curtis club at 5 with a field trip to the org , then roof patio of the hotel ..then Harvey’s Bar ( Henry’s ? ) ..then The Irish Rover at 6 , then Ophelia’s Soap Box , then my place for dinner for a couple of peeps

            but don’t tell anyone

    • Rasha

      What were the fortunes in the cookies???

      • Sherbet

        I can answer that! There were 5:

        Captain Howdy says Hello
        Buy the Ducati
        Your lucky number is 47
        You’re so glib
        Call me

        • Rasha

          #^_^#

        • GfldedKim

          That’s great Sherb! Such a great idea.

        • Vaquera
          • GfldedKim

            Awesome. So funny.

          • Sherbet

            I suppose that one needed to be explained a few times.

            • Vaquera

              Nope

            • Sherbet

              πŸ™‚ Did our Proprietor enjoy the joke?

        • Kestrel

          They were great, Sherbet!

          • Sherbet

            It was either that or a live mouse for you.

            • Kestrel

              That would have worked, too, but the Irish egg rolls were a good alternative.

          • iampissed

            They were.

            • Sherbet

              You guys make me happy. I like knowing I was there in spirit.

            • iampissed

              Everyone was.

            • Liberated

              btw…..I think it was really nice of you to go to HC.
              You’re good people !

            • iampissed

              Thank you. Really it was my pleasure.

      • iampissed

        Yes I posted one. And they were tasty to.

    • iampissed

      Everyone did a great job….it really was a group effort!
      ETA: And Kim did a wonderful job as much as she acts like it was nothing.

      • Kim O’Brien

        totally

        • iampissed

          Totally!

    • Juicer77

      J3 and fly trivia πŸ™‚

      • daisy

        Was the trivia about J3 and Fly or did they make up the game ?

        • Juicer77

          Lol either way is great! They made up questions.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Thanks so much Kim. So nice to meet a sweet person who is a firecracker!

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    So, wait: where is Marty on his A to E right now? D, maybe?

    • gtsix

      After trashing all his friends and filming 9,472 2 minute videos, bitch should be on v. So yeah, that dipshit is still on A. Man’s knees must be sore, he should be fine though , doesn’t seem to have a strong gag reflex.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    O/T
    A $cientology joke finds it’s way into a potty-training article.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2017/jun/26/parents-toilet-training-newborn-babies-elimination-communication

    Seems about right – poop, meet poop.

    • GfldedKim

      THAT. IS. HILARIOUS ..what a find.

    • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

      “Elimination communication, which sounds a bit like a Scientology
      procedure, is, in fact, the age-old technique of training a baby to use a
      toilet from birth”
      Apart from the faecal connection, are they quite sure they didn’t get inspiration from Elron somewhere down the line? When it came to the name anyway.

    • Rasha

      oooooh…. that image is ripe for shooping, if ya know what I mean….

    • Missionary Kid

      I don’t remember witnessing it, but my mother used to say that the small Chinese children didn’t wear underwear, but that the parents would hold them out and whistle, and they’d eliminate. Of course, this was out in the country.

      • Kim O’Brien

        hippies do that too πŸ˜‰

        • Nat-leficent

          I have seen this ^^^^^

          • Sherbet

            I don’t want to see this.

            • Nat-leficent

              Neither did I XP

            • Sherbet

              I remember the Summer of Love hippie invasion in Boston where the flower children allegedly wore flea collars because the only bathing they did was in the fountains.

              But that might have been an apocryphal story.

      • Jimmy3

        Glad I don’t have to wait for the whistle anymore.

        • Kestrel

          Glad I never stood next to you at a train station.

          • Jimmy3

            That you know of.

      • EmmaDaoust

        They have split pants – crotchless, so to speak.

        • Missionary Kid

          Thanks for the added information.

          • EmmaDaoust

            Don’t mention it, Kid, I sure wish I hadn’t.

      • dungeon master

        My mother said her grandfather ran around in dress like garment (and no unders or diaper) until he was 4. The little kids just went potty wherever outside. Rural Missouri, I think was where they lived.

    • iampissed

      That’s going to come in handy with my 26 yo. THANKS!

  • WhatAreYourCrimes

    “These revelations come not from the church, but from one of the individuals Leah Remini sought to recruit…”

    What a simplistic lie.

    How dumb does the asshole scientologist leadership think their viewership is? Rathbun was bribed to drop his lawsuit, turn on old friends, and recite scientology’s talking points.

    Who are these videos really for? Even the most steadfast member of scientology knows this is all bullshit. Who would want to remain a member of such a lying cult?

    • Missionary Kid

      Of course, since $cientology members only hear what the organization wants them to hear, the members don’t know that it’s bullshit.

      Several exes mentioned that the Bunkaroos who never were in $cientology knew far more about $cientology than they did while they were in, because their information was so restricted. It truly is a prison of the mind.

    • AntoniaW

      Precisely. Except, perhaps Marty demanded a payment from Miscavige before the “Monique” law case hit the public stage. And they worked out a deal together, scorpion to scorpion. The only question is, what was the channel of communication between Rathbun and Miscavige? Presumably not lawyer-to-lawyer given the circs. People with deep knowledge of the $cilon hierarchy will perhaps know who might have picked up the phone to whom; what channels were still available even after Rathbun’s apparent defection?

      For sure, a deeply dishonest deal was done; its fruit became visible step by step after the lawsuit was dropped; money laundering is incredibly easy.

      Also, all of this is so bleedingly obvious that ultimately, it won’t help the Co$ one jot.

  • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

    Right Bunkeroos. It’s 3:38am in these parts, so i’m gonna read for a bit then bunk down for the night/morning whatever! Not like i’ve gotta get up early, i’ll just have a lie-in (nothing new there). Ah sleep, ’tis a beautiful thing’.
    TTFN!
    https://youtu.be/38wIuDAq2yg

    • Puget Buckeye

      Nighty night.

      • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

        Goodnight, see you in the morning *welsh accent*. ;0)

        • iampissed

          Mine is a S. Calif accent…..interesting idea….what is your inflection?

          • EmmaDaoust

            Once again, my eyes… I read “what is your infection?” I thought, well that’s a bit rude. LOL

            • Puget Buckeye

              A little penicillin and you’ll be as good as new.

            • Jimmy3

              S. Calif accident

          • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

            Actually, mines a Bristolian accent, think Meriadoc Brandybuck (kind of). That phrase with a welsh accent, is a line said by an old woman in Bedknobs & Broomsticks. I used to do the impression frequently when going to bed, gave everyone a giggle!

            • GfldedKim

              Loved that play when I was kid. Fun memories.

            • Liberated

              Shipshape and Bristol fashion. Just love that phrase.

            • Bagpuss is my co-pilot!

              Gotta make sure I’m tied to the bed securely when the tide goes out, or I get one hell of a rude awakening! ;op

        • daisy

          I had a worker in with a Scottish accent so thick I could barely understood what she said. I loved it .

          • stanrogers

            The Cymry aren’t under the impression they’re speaking English when they’re speaking Welsh. The Scots, on t’other hand…

            • daisy

              All of my grandparents were straight from Scotland . It wasn*t until yesterday I realized it was an accent and not just drunk talking.

            • Jimmy3

              tghere cna ne pnly onew

            • daisy

              Now put an argumentative and angry tone to it and it is like a family reunion.

            • Liberated

              When I hear Scotland I think of trainspotting …is that weird ?

            • daisy

              I think of Ewin McGreggor on a daily basis so I am a bad one to ask. He is in this season of Fargo . It was really good.

            • Liberated

              Yes, EM is definitely ok. Fargo was great, I get so wrapped up in it I forget the last one was the season ender.

            • Puget Buckeye

              That’s not a bad daily thought to have. If you know what I mean. πŸ˜‰

    • iampissed

      Night

    • Eclipse-girl

      Sleep well, my friend

  • salin

    Reminder – Click the Recommend/up vote for Tony’s reporting for the day, and the ensuing divergent conversations in the comments section of the UndergroundBunker. 1900 comments+ and still hovering under 150 recommends? Really?!

    IMO the best Space Opera can be found in nature. This image was captured in Alberta, Canada last night (June 25) http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=136493&PHPSESSID=0d4g21eusj00g99k50j83bndj4

    • Puget Buckeye

      Thanks for the reminder.

  • Eclipse-girl

    I had a long post, and ended it with this song.

    Lost the post. Just enjoy the song. It had nothing to do with nothing.
    Just a fave song from 1972

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIDycPLqTmE

    • Eclipse-girl

      I hate the fact that I can’t see who upvotes me. Don’t know if this is DISGUST or just using and iPAD

      Pan,
      you and I once hada talk about music.
      You are very aware of Gram Parsons.
      This woman was / is more obscure to me.

      You were well aware of her, weren’t you?

      • Panopea Abrupta
        • JaxNGold

          This song always breaks my heart. So beautiful.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Don’t ask me why but Gram’s voice just melted me.

          I do not think I have heard more heart breaking duets than Gram and Emmylou. Johnny and June came close.

          πŸ™

          I am grateful that people still sing his songs.

        • Supper Powers

          I upvote the Earle family; Steve, Stacey and Justin Townes.

        • Glen

          Pan, I remembered that you mentioned RM as someone in your amazing circle of friends. Wordsmith, detective and carpenter that you are. a think your wonderfulness as a dad is what stands out most to me. Thanks for your great contributions.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6HloRYZGc

      • Jimmy3

        You can’t see them on mobile anymore. You could years ago but they broke it.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I hate it when THEY break things

      • Liberated

        I have an iPad and can see everything, you should be able to see upvotes in notifications.

        I also have a kindle and can see when you joined – Oct. 19 , 2013.
        You have 16,188 comments and 50,093 upvotes – damn girl….that’s good.

        • Eclipse-girl

          It is never about that shit.
          It is about empathy, compassion.

          Something that has been said many times before:
          Many of us watchers had our own issues / troubles / abuse. Enduring that stuff in our lifes has made us more empathic than some, perhaps overly so.

          I do not believe in ‘woo.’ But I believe that i can sometimes sense when another person has been though a a lot of difficult stuff and they are not talking.

          • Liberated

            I’m confused, I was talking about the fact you can’t see upvotes. That’s all.

            • Eclipse-girl

              You mentioned my comments and upvotes. That is the stuff I was talking about.

              Some people (ME) have a hard time with compliments

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Well I think you’re a wonderful person that is very empathetic and fair to people on here. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. I for one appreciate you and never pass without reading your comments. You’re a great asset to The Bunker. Thank you.

            • Eclipse-girl

              You are too kind.

              πŸ™

        • iampissed

          I think what is being talked about is that if you are on a desk top you can tag on the upvotes and it will show you who did it by aviar. I work of ipad and I don’t see it. I also can’t down vote. I’m use to it.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Down votes were removed by DISGUST or so I was told

            • iampissed

              Thanks…I’ve never been able to…long standing. But I hear people talk about it.
              Again I’m good.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Someone accused me of down voting posts. I’ve never done that but according to him..

          • Liberated

            I can see avatars and upvotes on an iPad.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I lost an account. I joined in ?June of that year. It was during the publicity of Leah’s leaving sickentology.

      • Supper Powers

        I upvote this

        • Eclipse-girl

          You are aware of Ms Keith? Or Gram’s powerful heartbreaking voice?

      • iampissed

        It’s “I believe” an IPad thing. When I am on a desk top seems to work…just,my 2CW.

  • Karen

    I’ve never been in the COS, but I have been keenly interested in the history and news of Scientology since the abuse within the “church” came to light a few years ago. Of all the shows I’ve watched, interviews with past and present members, reading Ms. Remini’s book, and the two movies, I have to say that the one that stayed with me the longest was “My Scientology Movie”. The reason it has lingered in my mind is because I really felt like I was watching Marty Rathbun on the verge of a mental break. He really came off as quite mentally/emotionally troubled to me, especially how he tried to promote the techiques, while not want the movie to focus on the abuse. As someone on the outside, it felt very much akin to someone trying to promote the tenets of the Catholic Church while refusing to speak about its long, shameful history of pedaphile priests and the extent to which the church protected them. Honestly, I couldn’t help but feel sorry for him at the time – he looked so lost. However, now, I pity him for a different reason. His new videos hurt scores of people who considered him a friend, and prove that he is never to be trusted again. When the day comes that he leaves the church again, which I believe will eventually happen, he may find himself all alone.

    • Missionary Kid

      Very well put. It is sad, isn’t it?

    • Eclipse-girl

      I have been trying to find that Theroux’s movie
      Have not succumbed to finding a torrent.

      May I suggest a reading selections?
      Russell Miller’s Bare Faced Messiah
      Lawrence Wright’s Going Clear

      Welcome and your observations / opinions are spot on

      My pity, concern is for Monique and their son

      • Karen

        Thanks for the reading recommendations, and for the welcome. 😊

        I have Wright’s book waiting for me on my Kindle, but hadn’t heard of Miller’s. I will check it out.

        I have thought about Marty’s wife as well. I believe I read she was never in Scientology, so I wonder what she makes of Marty’s flip flop. Especially considering the harassment they endured by “church” members.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Miller’s bio is a good read. LRon led an Unusual life. I found it enlightening about the creep that was.

    • chukicita

      You put that really well. Watching Marty through Theroux’s film was not comfortable, and I don’t even know the guy. The control he was trying to exert in the recreation of a scene with a actor playing DM was not just inappropriate for someone in an advisor role, but it also revealed how easily he slipped into that power, and how much he felt it belonged to him, and how he seemed to want to make the production into his personal message to DM.

      I don’t believe Theroux did that on purpose, but maybe it wasn’t something Marty wanted to recognize. Maybe he felt his strongest moments were left on the cutting room floor, even though the film’s goal may not have been to stroke his ego.

  • NerdHerd

    Reading some of the comments on Marty’s blog for his 7th installment.

    “remoteviewed | June 26, 2017 at 7:24 pm | Reply

    Asking Mike to back up any of his assertions with documentation of any kind is an adventurous exercise.

    I did and was 86ed from his blog.

    As far as silencing critics of the Church. All one has to do is read the Wired article Alt Scientology War
    https://www.wired.com/1995/12/alt-scientology-war/

    to see how incompetent he was as the head of OSA.”

    I saw Scientologists at War. It showed an extremely stressed out Mike Rinder, looking like HELL. If remoteviewed paid attention, DM was most likely screaming at Mike, YSCOHB, and his usual “motivational” practices. If you want to give blame for Mike’s failure, it lies squarely on DM’s tiny shoulders. If you look at before and after pics of when Mike left the COS, he looked 500% healthier and less stressed within a year.
    And what has Marty ever confessed to? Besides generalities about Lisa McPherson’s death at Flag, he has never really opened up about ops during the 80’s. Methinks Mr. Rathbun would probably go to jail if all his dark secrets came out.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Do not feel bad about being 86ed, You are in very good company.

      • TheMirrorThetan

        I think he mean’t remoteviewed says he was 86’ed from Mike’s blog.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Marty blocks post that he doesnt want to deal with, as you know.
          That was what I thought it was referring to.

          ETA: it is past 11:00 pm – just consider me loopy and lost.

        • Robert Eckert

          He said “Mike” when he meant “Marty”

    • Glen

      Thanks for posting that link to the old Wired magazine. I had known some of this story in bits but had never seen quite so comprehensive a piece before. I think it is safe to say that $ci has really badly lost the internet. I often use the metaphor of “kryptonite” to describe the effect of the net on $ci. I really liked the use of the metaphor “Vietnam.”

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Geez, just looked at the number of comments. No wonder it’s been so hard to keep up with all the gems today. It’s been an exhausting tone scale-like rollercoaster of comments that inspired everything from wild head shakes of incredulity and boisterous guffaws, to pity, concern, sympathy, admiration, and hope. Good night all. See you at 7.

    • iampissed

      I think you summarized it up. NIGHT.

      • Puget Buckeye

        Nighty night.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Puget Buckeye

      Is it morning where you are?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        No, I’m still near Howdycon visiting my Mum in Wyoming. Just a bit of insomnia.

        • Eileen

          I just visited Devil’s Tower in Wy. Amazing.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Beautiful country.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    It was so nice to meet all of you in Denver.
    Kim, thanks for everything! You are one amazing Hoochie Mama!
    Observer, thanks for your splendid photos.
    Hopefully, I can get some my photos posted tomorrow, but they probably won’t be as good.

    • Observer

      Quite a few of yours came out better than mine.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Really nice to meet you after all these years! Wish we have had some more time but you looked awful busy.

        • Observer

          Likewise! πŸ™‚

        • Obs rules! She works hard for that filthy Pharma lucre!

    • Jimmy3

      They will probably be better than mine

      • Puget Buckeye

        Yeah, your pics are generally fuzzy.

        • Jimmy3

          Hah! Observer took this. So your insult bounced off my rubber and stuck to an innocent glue girl.

          • Puget Buckeye

            Awkward! Sorry Obs! Anyway, your OTHER pictures are fuzzy.

      • Glen

        That’s hard to believe. Your “plane window” series was superb.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        I am jealous of your fitbit!
        How many miles did you do today?

        • Jimmy3

          Proud to say I got all the miles that were on my path today. Every one I encountered, I did.

          • Eivol Ekdal

            2 inches at a time?

            • Jimmy3

              Gotta crawl ‘fo you ball

          • Puget Buckeye

            You know a lot of people named Miles?

      • Eivol Ekdal

        So what the hell was your fucking excuse for not being there? It better be good CSMF!

    • Liberated

      Thanks for providing the live feed….you’re the best.

      • EmmaDaoust

        Yes, Eivol/loviE, it was almost as good as being there.

    • It was great to meet you! You were the hardest working man in ASCbusiness! You were everywhere making things happen!

  • Puget Buckeye

    I’m out. Eivol and Jimmy have worn me out.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Goodnight Bunker

    • Baby

      I just walked in the door.. OMG poooooooooooped

      • Sherbet

        You’re so funny. You just got in, and the first thing you do is check the Bunker! Shouldn’t you be petting dogs?

        • Baby

          They attacked me at the door..and Mac brought one of them to the Airport to pick me up Sherbie…xo

          • Sherbet

            DoggyCon

            • Baby

              ha .. Yep Sherbie

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Welcome home Sugar Britches! Bet the pups went crazy:)

        • Baby

          NUTS… Hi honey.. it was so good to finally meet you babe.. xo

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Ditto, Doll face.

            • Baby

              XO

  • Supper Powers

    Birds fly backwards from your mouth. Marty.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BHj9_Qt0k1M

  • FloydianSlip

    Long time reader, never post….. But a fire is getting awfully close to Gilman Springs Road this evening. I think that area is under voluntary evacuation at this point as fire is over 1200 acres and only 10% contained at this point. Things may be getting tense in the hole.

    • OOkpik

      Welcome to the Bunker, FloydianSlip. *chuckle*

      Thanks for the heads-up. I wouldn’t mind Miscavige’s prison compound being burned to the ground but I do hope people are safely evacuated first, should it come to that.

  • MollyMeldrum

    Does anyone know when Alanzo shuttered his blog? Curious to know if there’s any relationship between Marty’s video series and his disappearance.

    • Jimmy3

      Yes. He posted a a positive endorsement of Marty’s initial video segments, until the next day Tony proved Marty was directly contradicting a court document.* He was blatantly lying. Alanzo deleted and tried to retract his approval, and he caught criticism from several people. Then he deleted his blog that night. It was about 2 weeks ago.

      Edit: the testimony was another day. This particular lie involved a court document he was central to. It’s hard to keep them straight. But that’s still what happened to Alanzo’s blog.

      • MollyMeldrum

        So the blog died of shame. Good.
        Thanks for the lowdown πŸ˜‰

      • OOkpik

        IIRC Alanzo also came under fire by a commenter for insisting that Marty should answer as to whether or not he submitted Dani Lemberger’s private email to Marty to a Scientology attorney in a case against Dani & Tami or the Dror Center. If it transpired that he had engaged in such treachery, Alanzo claimed he would be done with him. Alanzo’s blog went down right after that.

        Nobody likes a traitor.

        • MollyMeldrum

          But the email stuff was ages ago (couple months?). I read some of his posts on that and the blog continued on. Last posts I saw were these bizarre mini radio plays with nauseating voices (acted by him). Fking childish as all hell.

          ETA: stopped going there after that.

          • OOkpik

            It was only a a matter of weeks ago that I saw the posts I mentioned and within hours the content disappeared. Perhaps he had taken some of the later posts down or my poor old brain has finally turned to mush. Either way, I’m glad I missed the bizarre radio plays.

            • MollyMeldrum

              He must have revisited the subject (sounds like a commenter forced him to).
              In any case it will be interesting to see his next move, now his face is undeniably caked in egg. Writing’s on the wall – his boy is EXACTLY what we all said.

            • Jimmy3

              No, you’re right. The email complaint was part of the “oops” retraction that I was talking about. That was all in his last post. But it seemed to me like he killed the blog after he got he some comments he didnt like. Probably was a combination of all of it.

            • OOkpik

              Whew! It doesn’t take the question of my sanity out of play, but it helps. Thanks.

            • Jimmy3

              Don’t worry, I’m sure it’s a fine mush.

            • OOkpik

              Mush by any other name…

              eta: BTW, I missed you like I missed me at HowdyCon last week.

            • Jimmy3

              <3
              Im pretty sure I was in the wrong city

            • OOkpik

              It’s OK babe. Just don’t let it happen again.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Marty. What do you think will happen when Miscavige is done tormenting and using you to destroy yourself and his critics? If you have an ounce of brain matter left, wake the fuck up. No money, no settlement, no deal is worth helping let a stunted psychopath utterly and completely destroy you.
    Miscavige’s word is shit. He is the king of lies. You know that. He will find a way out of the deal…WAKE UP.
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    Okay, Iam back to normal now.
    Even if he brought it on himself.
    I got my skerrick of pity for Marty out of my system.
    Back to my usual cranky, bitchy, cynical self. πŸ™‚

  • Newiga

    Good morning/afternoon, early crew!

  • Jeb Burton

    Just grabbed my TBT, saw “Scientology film plan dropped without notice”. Sub fheadline, The church tells Clearwater police it will tape a mock FBI raid at a downtown building. Then it doesn’t. Look forward to reading that after my shower.

    • OOkpik

      They thew out a red herring and filmed elsewhere, apparently. Another sneaky Scientology strategy!

  • I don’t know if more than 2.000 comments is some kind of record, but I’m going to pause, for a moment, in appreciation for Disqus. This script was simply not designed for that volume of comments and copes incredibly well, day after day.

    I think many of the problems that are blamed on Disqus are down to this huge volume of comments maxing out the memory assigned to browsers in tablets or old computers.

  • HeatherGraceful

    Maybe it was BONNY who needed a chance to tell her story!

    Whatever. Amy is a legend, and nothing she said was misleading whatsoever.

    Poor Mosey.

    • Jerseygram

      And her poor child.

  • April Brown

    This JUST happened here in my town Newberg, OR. They were distributing these pamphlets at the police department open house. I picked up a couple and right away noticed the ridiculously out of date, unsubstantiated and blatantly false info and lack of valid source citations. When I flipped it over I just knew that this was a Scientology org. I went to Foundation’s website and then immediately wrote the chief of police. I advised that they needed to check their LRH propaganda and I received a timely response and apology and I was assured that the materials were immediately pulled and destroyed. I will be checking at the next event.

    • MollyMeldrum

      Excellent.

  • Wryturman

    Rats!
    Co$ OSA’s (or whoever in the org does ASC cleanup-I’m a ‘never-in’) got my Ask the Yelp Community question about the whereabouts of Shelly Miscavige pulled off all the Narconon Yelp pages I’d found and posted it…this from Yelp:
    “I’m writing to you today to let you know that the Questions you posted were reported by the Yelp Community due to concerns about their tone, and that our moderators have removed them.

    Concerns about a business’s philosophy or practices can be raised in Yelp Talk. You can read more about our guidelines for asking Questions and posting other content on the site here: https://www.yelp.com/guidelines.”

    Oh well…if even one person saw it and wondered, it was worth the time…and it felt damn good doing it, too!

  • madame duran

    β€œHow could Leah do anything for Amy, aside from just air her β€˜story’? Disconnection stories are aired all the time and it doesn’t resolve them….Why Amy would want to participate in a sham is something only she could answer. It’s really a shame.”

    Can you imagine the same logic being applied to survivors of child abuse? “We hear these stories all the time…the incidents occurred so long ago…obviously, some children are still being abused today and the problem hasn’t been resolved…so what’s the point of publicly talking about it?”

    How quickly these Marty suck-ups forget the motto of “something CAN be done about it”. I guess they don’t want the general public to be forewarned. I guess they’re not interested in alerting the authorities to step in. I guess they approve Scientology’s approach of keeping quiet and DO NOTHING to end the disconnection policy. Perhaps they want the pain of those who suffered at the hands of Scientology to linger on without address or remedy. The Cult of Scientology wants to discredit stories like Scobee’s by saying they never happened or that they are of no significance. We know Scientology won’t do anything to initiate internal change and bring healing to those negatively affected by its policies. Leah isn’t playing along with that, hence the cult’s outrage with her.

    I’d really like to know what these Marty followers are doing that’s much more effective than “Aftermath” in exposing the cult and holding it accountable. Would their strategy be “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em”? If they want to dwell in hopelessness, defeat and misery, they don’t need to look any further than Marty himself. There is no sham when action involves breaking the silence, exposing the abuser’s crime, warning others of danger and bringing about long denied justice. THAT is the point of re-telling the same story repeatedly. The only ones complaining about “Aftermath” are cult sympathizers and perpetrators.

  • Philbyification

    MARTY RATHBUN FOR PRISON 2017! πŸ˜› (Fawn Hall he is Not!)

  • Phoebequeen

    Damn, that is some cold thinking.