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Scientology is No. 1 with No. 2! Or, how the Church of David Miscavige stinks up Clearwater

 
We’re getting very excited about Thursday’s city council vote in Clearwater, Florida which may be that town’s last opportunity to rescue its downtown from becoming Scientology’s fortress against the outside world.

The council will be voting on whether to purchase a 1.4-acre parcel for $4.25 million that lies between City Hall and a couple of important Scientology landmarks, including the Fort Harrison Hotel, the centerpiece of Scientology’s “Flag Land Base.” The city wants the parcel to help build tourism and pedestrian traffic downtown. The last thing Scientology wants are outsiders near its facilities, and church leader David Miscavige has offered $15 million for the parcel if the city will vote against buying it.

One of the ways that Scientology tries to sway locals (and it appears to be working, judging by our conversation with one local business owner, Leif Oskarsson), is by claiming that, against all visual evidence to the contrary, the church is actually a boon to the local economy and the tax-exempt organization still somehow pays more property taxes than anyone.

Well, we’re not so sure about that. We had a look at the city of Clearwater’s latest financial report, for the year 2014-2015, and it lists the top ten property tax payers in town. Here they are:

 

 
The county’s list for 2016 is a little different, but still no Church of Scientology…

 

 
As for just the downtown development area of Clearwater, Scientology does dominate, and if you added together its $37 million in assessed property here, it would crack the top ten for the whole city…

 

 
So these figures would suggest to us that despite its tax-exempt status, the church does own a significant amount of property that is taxable, at least. We’d love to hear from some local experts who can help us drill down into these numbers even more.

But we also wanted to show you another ranking that we found in the city’s year-end report because, well, it made us chuckle.

Here then is the list of top users of Clearwater’s sewer system…

 

 
Hey, at least the Church of Scientology is number one at something in Clearwater.

 
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Ron Miscavige strikes back

After being slimed for nearly a year with attack websites set up by his own son, Ron Miscavige is putting up his own website to present his own side of things.

 

 
Give it a spin and let us know what you think.

 
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Chris Shelton on loaded language

Says Chris: “On this week’s Sensibly Speaking Podcast, I talk about loaded language, one of the key control mechanisms of any destructive cult and perhaps one of the most powerful of the weapons in Scientology’s arsenal. I give some examples from Scientology of how they redefine terms to actually control how people think and act. It’s crazy stuff, but hey, that’s Scientology.”

 

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Actual caption by manager Karen Renna (Patrick’s mom): “MICHAEL D. ROBERTS booked a supporting role in the film A STAR IS BORN starring BRADLEY COOPER & LADY GAGA. Hearty congratulations!”

 

 
Says our tipster: “In the Mystery Science Theater 3000 reboot, Episode 3, ‘Time Travelers,’ there’s a scene with a woman working on an android’s head, you hear the quip, ‘Ah, now she’s testing the android’s body thetans with her E-meter, and now it owes her a $100,000.'”

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,721 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,824 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,318 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,358 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,070 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 596 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,685 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,825 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,145 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,120 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 476 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,778 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 885 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,287 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,160 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 741 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,246 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,490 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,599 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 15, 2017 at 07:00

E-mail tips and story ideas to tonyo94 AT gmail DOT com or follow us on Twitter. We post behind-the-scenes updates at our Facebook author page. After every new story we send out an alert to our e-mail list and our FB page.

Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Sherbet

    Who’s got the text of lrh’s constipation engram, the “Oh, this cannot be borne” narrative?

    • daisy

      Wanna make a bet this guy screamed every time he had a hard s**t. Hypocrite silent birth crap.

    • Observer
      • Rasha

        So Dianetics is basically prunes, but costs hundreds of thousands of dollars?

      • Sherbet

        That’s the one, Observer.

      • Roger Hornaday

        Die-of-ethics was hatched, not born.

        • GrangerFX

          Squeezed out and pinched off really.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Dianetics is based on something LRH found in the toilet the morning after taco Thursday.

    • Jimmy3

      The bulk of these “commands” the engrams contain are not computable in any way,
      since they are contradictory or demand unreasonable acts. It is the impossibility of computing
      them and reconciling them to thought and existence which makes the patient aberrated. Let us
      take an engram which comes from one of Mother’s bowel movements. She is straining, which
      causes compression, which brings about “unconsciousness” in the unborn child. Then, if she
      habitually talks to herself (a monologist) as an enormous number of aberrated women do, she
      may say, “Oh, this is hell. I am all jammed up inside. I feel so stuffy I can’t think. This is too
      terrible to be borne.”

      This may be in the basic area. The dream mechanism of the mind (which thinks in puns
      mostly, symbologists to the contrary) may bring forth a dream about hell-fire as the engram is
      approached. The pre-clear may be sure that he is going to descend into fire if he goes on his
      time track toward this engram. Further, he may think his time track is all jammed up. This will
      mean, perhaps, that the incidents are all in one place on it. So much for “This is hell,” and “all
      jammed up inside.” Now let us take a look at what happens with “I’m so stuffy, I can’t think.”
      The pre-clear sniffles because he thinks this means a cold in his nose. And as for “This is too
      terrible to be borne,” he is filled with an emotion of terror at the thought of touching the
      engram, for this command says it is too painful to bear. Additionally, engrams being literal in
      their action, he may think that he was too terrible to be born.

      The emotional reaction to hell, from some other place on the track — as contained in
      some other engram — may say that “going to hell” is loud sobbing. Hence he does not “want”
      to recount this engram. Further, he is terrified of it because it is “too terrible to be borne.” That
      Mother was only discussing with her ambivalent self the necessity of laxatives is never entered
      into the computation. For the reactive mind does not reason, it thinks in identities, seeking to
      command the analytical mind.

      There is only as much data as is in the engram and the analytical reaction to this
      unthinking thing is utterly literal.

      • Sherbet

        Good Lord.

        • Jimmy3

          I know. I’m confused too. I’ve never before heard a woman ask to have Hubbard recited to her.

          • downtherabbithole

            Hurts my brain. Please pass me a glass of wine.

          • Sherbet

            That’s pillow talk in the Elfman house.

            • Jimmy3

              It’s pillow talk here too. But more putting my face in a pillow to muffle my cursing and shouting.

          • I did that without her asking.
            After 2 minutes she said, “Can’t we just have meaningless sex now?”

    • Observer

      Danny Masterson is getting on the plane now

      • Ohh! Danny… Ohh! Danny

      • Noesis

        So is Jenna Elfman.

        It will be a menage a twits.

    • Jimmy3

      Oooh! I found one! Let’s see.. Maybe some choooocolate?! Reese cup??! Lemme see…

      It’s… it’s… wtf is this?… It’s a balled up receipt and a bill for service…? You want me to pay you for hiding Easter Eggs??

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I was in East Grinstead on Thursday and Friday. Damn, I just missed out on all the fun of the egg hunt.

  • Juicer77

    O/T – watching the new MST3K and giggling at the instrumentals playing during the “fact breaks.” XD

  • Cheap & Nothing Wasted

    So $cientology produces more shit than anyone else in Clearwater.
    And that’s a surprise?

  • Silence of the Clams

    I sincerely hope the City Council isn’t driving new BMW’s next week.

  • nottrue

    Crime and Investigation… Perfect…UK . .. https://twitter.com/CI/status/853292063949037568

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Speaking of BS, it looks like Hanan Islam has a new health scam going that includes something called Quantum Theta Healing (the purif?). Anyone know how that fraud case against Rizza & her turned out?

    From her website: https://www.4truehealth.com/quantum-theta-healing

    “The only difference between a person fighting hair loss and someone fighting cancer is the length of time and the depths to which the infestation of fungus and other pathogens have gone to. They are all the same; stemming from the same source”. Dr. Hanan Islam

    “Participating in the Quantum Theta Detoxification​® Healing Retreat boosts your body’s own immune system and other defenses to positivly addres symptoms such as cancer, arthritis, diabetes and autoimmune disorders, as well as many other chronic conditions.

    Quantum Theta Detoxification​® Healing Retreat is NOT a vacation. It is a private retreat with housing for 9 people at a time, delivered over 4 days of intense therapy. This retreat is designed to give the seriously infected body all the nutrition and detoxification it needs, along with the most cutting edge healing technologies possible, to allow the body to regain its highest and best balance and immunity level, in order to positively protect itself from any pathogenic invasions present.”

    This “treatment” includes coffee enemas but don’t worry because they are “Licensed by Turtle Healing Band” so it must be legit. SMH
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98b2b0f0cf4c5871992abf50c78723e71ae601f756564524f7348c53c9953e72.png

    • Juicer77

      Oy.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Anyone who has experienced cancer can verify that there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between fighting hair loss and fighting cancer. Dangerous quackery!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Idiot people and their idiot ideas.

    • Science Doc

      Someone needs to tell her that sodium chloride is a rock called halite.

    • Missionary Kid

      I don’t care if it’s salt from Mars. NaCl is the same thing. Plant based minerals instead of rock based? A mineral is a mineral, regardless of where it comes from.

      There is a difference in the stuff that comes with plant based minerals. The minerals are the same. It’s the plants, which have a lot of fiber in them that, in the long run, can be beneficial, but it takes a while (weeks) to take effect. The other benefit is that when a person eats a lot of plants, they’re filling up and not eating the crap that has a lot of salt in it.

    • Science Doc

      Went to the website. An ignorant, uneducated Scientologist wrote a pastiche of pseudoscience mumbo jumbo.

    • dungeon master

      I consider this false advertising at the least, and criminal abuse of vulnerable people. Hair loss and cancer cured by the purif and/or Dianetics (And caused by the same fungus and assorted pathogens). SMH. Because Ron tells me so.

      If you sit quietly your blood pressure generally goes down. Why couldn’t the cure be a slice of bacon and wait 15 minutes??

      Charlatans and crooks!!
      Edit for auto correct

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Can the FDA or FTC step on this, for making and advertising false health claims?

      • abdaman

        She says her product “addres [sic] symptoms such as cancer, arthritis, diabetes and autoimmune disorders..” I think she intentionally worded that very carefully. It “addresses” the symptoms of your illness but doesn’t cure it. “My client never made any claims of curing anything” I can see her lawyer saying in court. >:|

        What is UP with this couple? They have got to be scientologist shills

      • MrsShark

        I would say yes Class Actions like these get filed all the time

  • MrsShark

    Does “supporting role” for A Star is Born mean Michael Roberts
    got the role as Groupie Number Four?

  • Baby

    Miscavige..

    You are NOT buying a parcel of land..

    YOU ARE BUYING A CITY.

    We know it and YOU know it. You presented a park to ” Beautify the City.” You will call the PoPo on those who aren’t Scientologists. You even have a sign stating that if you do not leave when asked to do so you will call the Police. Funny if you aren’t a Scientologist you are ASKED to leave.. Some City Park.pffffffft

    Wait.. How about Mark Bunker going to the Scientologist Pizza joint.. Hmmm they ran out of Pizza.
    ( Before Bunker) Rev. Mama Dee, Bury and I went to this Pizza place. ” Would you like water and Olives?”

    ” Sure ..Why Not..” UH ya might have warned us that we were being CHARGED FOR THEM ASSHOLE. IF this creepy smarmy jerk with the OT necklace hanging around his neck flirting with ALL of us ( Sickening) ..is representative of ” Revitalizing the Downtown..ghost town.. Clearwater citizens are in for a real HOOT.

    You informed the City that you were expecting 10 MILLION people to your Super Power Opening..bawwwwhahahha . So a restaurant opened up right before the opening and it was empty.. Yep.. We walked by it. EMPTY.

    And then they closed. Weird how that happened eh? Shit I could go on.. If the Council falls for this Bullshit. Well.. ( Just fill in the blanks..) Who knows they may get to meet Tom Cruise in Person.. Really think about it TOM CRUISE. love baby

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6dd37e8cd2524f379f085aec8105245126587c8c791fd23dd231de49cfe40533.gif

    • dungeon master

      New reality show/drama on tv next season – Truman Show Clearwater. Kind of like Truman Show meets Stepford People. Oops. Edit to clarify content.

  • nottrue
    • ombrifuge

      He must be on his way down if he’s now doing all the cooking for them.

      • Graham

        Chef sounds so much more cuddly than Fuhrer.

      • Robert Eckert

        without a rucksack, too!

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Ann B Watson

      That is one of the Creepiest looking Orgs Mission that I have seen.The black columns very Temple of Osiris, the gold cross & church same old as in days past,but the entire building makes me queasy. Especially the darkened entryway. dms world lies beyond watch out! Thank you IWalrus. 🖤💖

      • Sherbet

        Is that what is called Beaux Arts style? The building looks interesting to me, although therein lies scientology, and that ain’t good.

        • Ann B Watson

          My memory of architecture class in college has been lost long ago, but I would think it is Beaux Arts. Not my most favorite style like Rococo too much wedding cake! Yes when Scientology lies within & without no good will come of it. 💛

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I love that old flatiron building, though. It’s the original Transamerica building, in SF’s financial district.

        • Ann B Watson

          I hear you. Have a flatiron in Boston, Mass my hometown and New York City. It is the SF one I do not care for. I think the black columns key in something else entirely. If the cult was not owner I might give it some love. ❤️❤️My late Dad would kill me fot not knowing the history. Wall Streeted from way back.

        • Ann B Watson

          Miss Ann is starting to🤦‍♀️ I have my page thing on newest & I just wrote a comment to you in discussion & it disappears! Snort!!! Hi 5 feet, here is what I wrote. I hear you about Flatirons. In my hometown Boston there are two and another in NYC. My late Dad was up there in Wall Street stuff and would scold me for not knowing what the SF one was before the cult moved in. When I really think it is not so much the Beaux Arts style as it is those darn black and gold columns in the front. Morgues and I are not friendly because I was locked in one at BB so there is something about those columns that remind me of something Scientology and very low in a condition. Weird. When I get back to San Francisco I will go look at it, but any router better watch out for me. Thank you I love your posts.😍😘

    • Baby

      I want to hug that poor guy and tell him to live his life outside the Bubble.. Look at that smile. So sweet.. He’s just a baby.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        He probably was relieved that someone finally talked to him instead of just ignoring him or yelling at him to “F” off. The body routers in Hollywood are so ill-tempered especially the older ones. He must be new. I wonder if they will even let him keep that book. What a life. 🙁

        • Baby

          tragic life..

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          At least he got to claim a stat, right?

    • Rasha

      When they find out from reading in the Bunker what the guy at their front door did, he’ll be in trouble….

    • Harpoona Frittata

      As the walls continue to close in on $cn, this “skinny” org in San Francisco is going to become more and more the norm, until the whole scam becomes as two-dimensional as a Hollywood film set facade! Now that’s a real “Ideal Org” 😉

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • downtherabbithole

    Dear lord does your body retain water when on antibiotics? My freaking toes look like mini sausages right now.

    • downtherabbithole

      Sorry random thought after looking down at my feet

      • GfldedKim

        Drink lots of water!!

    • ExCult.Jan

      Are you also taking antiinflammatories?

  • Jimmy3

    Grocery list:

    Antibiotics.
    Sausages.
    Milk.
    Antibiotic sausage milk.

    • Rasha

      *slowly puts down glass*

      …haha…. ha… I’ll just… haha….

      *checks online… wth……*

      • Jimmy3

        I was hoping it was a real thing, but I was too scared to be disappointed. You don’t know how many problems this would solve.

      • downtherabbithole

        If the glass has wine in it you can pass it to me

        • Rasha

          *pours a new one, hands it over*

    • Baby

      Poor Jimmy.. sick?

      • Jimmy3

        Nah, I was just kidding around. But I am done with all that now.
        Have a good night, Bunkerfolk

        • Rasha

          …too late…

          *confronts open fridge*

          It’s your last day, milk!! Come out with your Best Buy Date up!

        • Baby

          Well.. I will miss you.. xo

    • Science Doc

      You’ve never had the sausage milkshake at Sonic?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        They really have such a thing?

        • Science Doc

          No, but if anyone did….

  • WhiteCentauress
  • Science Doc

    If Miscavige was President of the United States, would he fly back to Clearwater every weekend to play Cause Resurgence Rundown, or would he fly out to not Hemet for some Musical Chairs action? In either case, would he release his tax returns?

    • Panopea Abrupta

      He would nuke the Bunker
      He would annex the Isle of Islay.
      He would outlaw the Tampa Bay Times.
      And the Internet.
      We would see Mission Earth on curricula everywhere.
      Tom Cruise movies would run 24/7 in the gulag.
      Where Alex Gibney, Louis Theroux and Leah Remini were incarcerated.
      ETA
      No visas for Farsecians, Marcabians or psychs

      He never had a First Lady

      • Science Doc

        The current Cabinet could help with most of this. Ben Carson would be stuck in the elevator.

        • chukicita

          Is he still in the cabinet?

          • Robert Eckert

            Yeah, somebody closed the drawer and he can’t figure out how to escape.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Nonsense. He had a first lady. And a third. Just not a second.

    • abdaman

      not hemet, lawwwll

  • nottrue
    • Jimmy3

      “When I opened my eyes, my wallet was missing. I’m sure it wasn’t the cat.”

    • Sherbet

      There is so much hooey in that article.

    • downtherabbithole

      I see green dogs with fuchsia whiskers.

      • Sherbet

        I see a reporter who has no idea how to Google scientology.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Very good, now visualize that pink n’ purple kitteh suddenly growing big sharp claws and huge curved incisors, then pouncing on you before you have a chance to turn and run…THAT’S $cientology!”

  • Jeb Burton

    Hey Tony, quit pushing the wife beater and child abuser Ron Miscavige. He is a piece of scum. Not everybody who speaks out needs to be praised.

    • Hamtaro

      Hey Jeb, pls tell us all the story of your life, from the exalted peak where you live. Where people have no faults and never sin. Pls also provide the zip code, so I can tell my kids to move there. Then kindly fuck off.

    • Graham

      Try word-clearing ‘self-righteous’. And try reading what Tony actually wrote. There was no praise there that I could see.

  • GfldedKim

    O/T Is there a way to block someone on this site? Not sure how to accomplish that ..

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Yes, there is.

      • GfldedKim

        Can you tell an old lady how?

        • Kestrel

          Sure. Have her stop by.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          If you hover your mouse pointer over this person’s comment you will, on the right hand side see a small dash and a triangle pointing downwards. Is you left click the triangle, you get the option to flag the comment or block the user.

          • Kestrel

            Who are you to imply that Gflded is old?

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I am Johnny Tank! Be careful, or I will moon you!

            • Rasha

              …this is true.

            • Kestrel

              Hate to break this to you, but that doesn’t shock anymore, and I’m pretty sure a number of commenters will egg me on.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Maybe that’s what I want 😉

            • ExCult.Jan

              Go. Go. Go. Go.

            • chukicita

              I’m cryin, fowl!

            • Graham

              Promises, promises.

            • GfldedKim

              I said I am old…😂😂😂

            • Kestrel

              You could have been a kind-hearted soul who was asking “for a friend.”

            • GfldedKim

              Nope! ”Twas for this old lady! But thanx for stickin up for me! 🙌

          • GfldedKim

            Thank you! On an iPad but found the carrot!

          • Jimmy3

            I’m hovering over ‘Jeb Burton’ and it’s telling me to click if I need antibiotics. Is that normal?

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              If you are hovering over Jeb Burton, you are either Superman, or you have OT powers. Go write up your success story.

            • Kestrel

              Is it normal that you may need antibiotics? I’m going to go out on a limb here (kestrel humor) and say, “Yes.”

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I wrote something like that, but erased it. I didn’t want to be the one who said it, lol.

            • Kestrel

              I’m glad to take the bullet for you. It’s not like it would be the first time I’d been shot at.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              It was an obvious… observation… Someone was bound to say it.

            • Kestrel

              You can also count on me to pick the low-hanging fruit.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I must remember to keep my distance from you at HowdyCon, or maybe wear pants. My low hanging fruit prefers not to be picked at.

            • daisy

              That is not what you told me ,

            • Jenyfurrrrr

              Damn – I was going to suggest a piñata game if you came in your usual uniform!
              PS – SO glad to hear you’re making the trip!!!

            • Its prophylactic.

            • Rasha

              Your browser is either cooler or more well-informed than mine. Is that a plug-in?

            • Jimmy3

              Good Lord Almighty, I hope not. I don’t want to find out what kind of socket that plugin requires.

            • ExCult.Jan

              Do NOT plug in.

          • Ann B Watson

            Thank you Johnny. You are a renaissance man of the computer age. ❤️

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              No problem, Ann! I’m just happy to help.

            • Ann B Watson

              It is appreciated.

        • Rasha

          Hope it wasn’t me. But it’s more important that you know how. ^_^

          • GfldedKim

            Neva!! You have me laughing every day!! ❤

            • Rasha

              HEART

              …gotta learn those emoticons…..

  • WhiteCentauress

    Hey, Tony, time to ban Jeb!

    • Jimmy3

      He seems crankier than usual lately, but he’s actually a good guy, and often very funny.

      • Rasha

        *clink*

        *clink clink*
        *clikn clndkledy clklndilku8*

        *lcnklclsikinflkycluyngk*

        • ExCult.Jan

          *wipes chin*

          • Rasha

            XD

      • GfldedKim

        He is very rude. Sorry but I don’t have the patience for his occasional “funny”

        • Jimmy3

          That’s fine too. You can block him, as I’m sure many others have. I would be upset if he was banned tho.

          • GfldedKim

            I blocked him. Helps my blood pressure. 😂

            • Rasha

              ShhhhhBAP!!! ^_^

          • But you’d get over it. Right?

          • WhiteCentauress

            Found out how to block, and did it. Never even thought about blocking anyone before, but like gflded said, “It felt good.” I was fifty before I touched a computer, so still struggle with new stuff.

          • What’sup

            Me too. Jeb’s okay by me. He dishes it out but he can also take it.

            And yeah, sometimes he’s hilarious.

            • Jenyfurrrrr

              True that! I get annoyed, but I’ve had teenagers so I can tune out easier, and he does sometimes have good stuff to add. But my biggest peeve are those who dish it but can’t take it and I gotta say he takes it just as well.

        • downtherabbithole

          I recall an encounter I had with him once and it was not pleasant. I have since learned to let some of his comment roll away. There are times/comments he that make a point. Today is not one of those days however.

          • GfldedKim

            Fairly new to the Bunker..I have been bothered by his comments many times..today was the last straw for me..so I blocked him..no worries.

            • downtherabbithole

              As you should if he bothers you.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I blocked him ages ago.

            • GfldedKim

              I would have but I really didn’t know how..felt silly asking..thank you for helping me figure it out.

        • Rasha

          Tony has a fair policy on banning, so you get the rudesters. Stating a view, however unappealing, is okay, but there are some lines that shouldn’t be crossed, and those get addressed.

          Ignoring/collapsing Tech is usually enough, but there is blocking for a reason.

          • GfldedKim

            That’s what I did. It felt good! 👍

            • Rasha

              I’ve collapsed several comment threads in my time. Just sayin’… -_^

            • chukicita

              I am an open collapser, without apology. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

        • chukicita

          Jed has good days and not so good ones.

          • Observer

            There is a Jed who posts here who is nothing like Jeb. At HowdyCon last year he had something like “Jed NOT Jeb” on his name tag.

            • WhiteCentauress

              That was an impulse typo. I’ve corrected it. I can see why he wore that tag.

            • chukicita

              Oops! Thanks.

          • WhiteCentauress

            As do we all. No need to trash Tony. I got in my protective mode, which Tony neither needs or appreciates.

      • Observer

        I disagree. He’s an ass.

        • Jimmy3

          Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. Except for you. I just banned your opinions.

          • Observer

            Oh, bite me.

        • daisy

          Oh now I have to go back and edit my comment about you calling him an idiot. I thought you said it with affection.

          • Observer

            I don’t hate him, but there’s no affection. At all.

        • lol

    • flyonthewall

      GIVE US BARABBAS!

      • Rasha

        GIVE US JIM BACKUS!!

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Ahem – there is Jed, and then there is Jeb. Burton is Jeb. Jed, on the other hand is a very nice guy, who was at HowdyCon last year. Let’s not go mixing them up 🙂

      • WhiteCentauress

        Jeb. Sorry. I was still angry at Jeb for attacking IntergalacticWalrus two days ago.

        • GfldedKim

          Me too

          • Jeb Burton

            I still think dead kids are off limits.

            • Robert Eckert

              They should never be mentioned again? The very fact they once existed should be not-ised?

      • Observer

        ^^^^^

      • Noesis
        • GfldedKim

          😂😂😂

        • Jeb Burton

          Didn’t he load up his family and move to Beverly?

      • WhiteCentauress

        I won’t make that mistake again. 😉 Besides, I’m blocking his ass.

        • I shall alert the media.

          • WhiteCentauress

            No need. Apparently I’m nobody. 😉

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          Just his ass? That’s where the nicest stuff he says comes from! 😜 He always gives Tony a hard time, but he’s always here so he can’t hate it too much. And yeah, he has to live near all the ace craziness and deal w/it so he comes by it honestly…
          NOW if we start banning verbose posters that get on nerves, I’m in trouble!

      • Now you have me trying to picture who Jed was at HowdyCon.

        • Ask OSA for the labelled group shots.

        • The poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          When you say things like that, you make it sound like you were at HowdyCon last year. And I thought I remembered all who were there…

          • Robert Eckert

            I drove Shorpy down to Cleveland. He brought the e-meter, the goldenrod declares, and the big picture of Tony.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I’m just playing with the big guy. He can handle a joke 😉

        • just another guy out there

          I told you the story about Mingus pulling the gun on his trumpet player.

    • GfldedKim

      Jeb was my issue. Do not know who Jed is. Thought it was a typo..I blocked Jeb..no worries. Carry on..

      • WhiteCentauress

        Mine, too. I read the posts about blocking. Will do that. Sorry.

        • GfldedKim

          No sorry needed

    • Robert Eckert

      Tony very rarely bans anybody. Jeb’s a longtime poster here, we know he’s a never-in Clearwater resident who comes by his bitterness honestly, some days he is noxious but whatever.

      • WhiteCentauress

        I got carried away. He was dissing Tony. That made me angry. I realized so many had not read the post because they had already blocked him.

        • Jeb Burton

          You mean that hack who poses as a journalist?

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            You’re such an ass. But apparently so am I because I’m laughing at your comment as I type this.

    • Jeb Burton

      I agree. The guy never goes with the flow. Always has a opinion that differs with the bunkerites. I only want people that all agree with the majority.

      • flyonthewall

        Jeb, I like you. Do you want to come over my house and bang my sister?

        • flyonthewall

          what’s the matter, she not good enough for you? Fuck you then

          • Since he won’t…..ahem.

      • Don’t whine.
        People can disagree without being disagreeable.
        I really don’t know your history or anything, so that’s not necessarily directed at you.
        Except for the whining part.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I’ve been out of the loop lately. Whose whiskey did you piss in now, old man?

    • iampissed

      All I see is a little gray man.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Jeb’s an asshole, but he’s our asshole. You can’t choose your family, but you make it work and you recognize that a melange of viewpoints and personalities are what keep this place interesting.

      • abdaman

        we have a communal asshole? ouch

        • Robert Eckert

          That’s why the Bunker has such lower sewerage fees than Scientology.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Who doesn’t?

  • downtherabbithole

    Damn I can smell that one of my neighbors are barbecuing and they failed to invite me. What ever happen to good neighbors for goodness sake.

    • chukicita

      Just walk over with a bag of chips, and get a plate.

      • downtherabbithole

        Well I did make a trifle for Easter dinner, I could just tell the family that I dropped it on the way to the car.

        • Give up the trifle for the barbeque.

      • Jeb Burton

        No chips. A six pack works much better.

      • iampissed

        Beer unlocks many a door.

  • Science Doc

    Science Doc’s five point plan for Clearwater.

    1. Change name of city to Wogtown.

    2. Declare Wogtown a psychiatrist sanctuary city.

    3. Select the squirrel as the official animal and symbol of Wogtown.

    4. Elect Mike Rinder Mayor of Wogtown.

    5. Seize all of the abandoned cult buildings and repurpose them for the public good.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)
      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Johnny that’s how I picture you (that sense o’style) but without the pants… because… well you’re always talking about needing pants!

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Now THAT’s a strategic plan for CW I can get behind! Although I loved “Clearwogger” as mentioned above! (Argh wanted to credit who posted it and because I’m a walking/talking brain fart, I can’t find it again!)

  • Shivani33

    I love Science Doc’s plan for Clearwogger. And would anyone object to a Clearwater Nudist Club? Eta, it could be called Clearwankers.

    • Science Doc

      Medical cannabis dispensaries are a must!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        You’d have to be high to live there.

    • Jeb Burton

      Are you sure you want to see me naked?

      • TexasBroad

        See! I think you’re hilarious. But then, I have a history of having some affection for cantankerous, ornery people. Please tell me you yell at people to get off your lawn – it will make me happy.

        • Jeb Burton

          I work hard at keeping my lawn perfect. Let me tell you about these little rug rats next door.

        • daisy

          Yep Jeb is an ass, but a funny one. Obs once said after he insulted someone , do not mind him , he is our idiot. I think she said it with affection. edit ( nope I was wrong , not said with affection )

          • Jeb Burton

            I am not your idiot. I am my own idiot. Wait a minute. That’s not right. I am nobody’s idiot.

            • Liberated

              All right, how many days has it been since girlfriend said ” I’ll be right back, dear. No need to wait up ?”

      • Shivani33

        Well, without my contacts, when looking in a mirror, I still look 24, so you naked would be mighty fine, too.

        • Jeb Burton

          Without your contacts, i still have abs!

  • iampissed

    A simple wish/thought/prayer….may the SO have bacon in their beans.

  • TexasBroad

    Please go hug a small business owner. They are likely in hell right now.

    • daisy

      taxes ?

      • TexasBroad

        %^$##%^!! taxes.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Taxes is an anagram of Texas.

    • Jimmy3

      Fucking guy runs a fertilizer yard. I’m never hugging anyone ever again.

  • Shivani33

    Listening to Chris Shelton discuss the loaded language of Scientologese, it looks like the language developed by Hubbard has a bigger emphasis upon exclusion than on being inclusive. There’s so much emphasis on being wrong and on creating an “us and them” and having words to define and name enemies. He must have wanted to isolate people. That could be because secretly, he knew that his pizza was rotten.

    He liked to hear himself talk. He reminds me of the origin of the the word “charlatan,” which though French, came from the Italian word “ciarlatano,” and ciarlare means “to babble.” Ciarlatano’s Pizza.

    • abdaman

      The main goal of creating “slang” is to create a language that only a small number of people can understand in order to exclude (excluding the many way more important than including the few) according to one of the foremost slang experts in the US

  • Observer

    More OTness: In furtherance of my quest to be banned (see Shorpy’s post) here are couple more pics. One of them was slightly out of focus, but my new PS plugin made it into a thing of beauty. Squeeeee!

    Combining OTnesses: we just watched the new MST3K movie Reptilicus, and they perfectly captured the spirit and humor of the original series. It was amazing.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0358958a2ce6a61e427cbedc28cd8018055d833c7bf9acc1bf42f8937fcce52.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ffbed1e494b1020f9e0a032711aeb95d6301b5f80bf575b932784205848556a.jpg

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Lovely, but I’m here for the alpacas.

      • Observer

        I didn’t get down there today. Maybe tomorrow.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Awesome.

    • Baby

      Gorgeous Obs.. I’m jealous.. sigh.. damn palm trees and cactus ..sigh

    • daisy

      I make jig saws out of your photos.

    • Can’t wait!

  • What’sup
    • Baby

      Hi honey..where ya been?

      • What’sup

        Was super busy at work but slacked off a bit this last week so been able to get here more often. How you?

        • Baby

          better each day.. thanks boo.. xoxo

    • JaxNGold

      LOL!

    • GrangerFX

      Aplogies if I have posted this before.
      I was out walking in my community and this stranger stops me on the street, points up at the white lines in the sky and starts raving about chemtrails. “That can’t be natural!” So I whip out my flight tracker app and proceed to identify each jet in the sky including their airline, route, destination speed and, most importantly, altitude. I was able to determine where the moisture rich bands of air were in the sky by which planes left ice crystals in their wake caused by the air pressure, heat and turbulence of the jet engines. Science bitches!

      • What’sup

        You should have just sprayed some vinegar at them and told the guy to relax.

      • Missionary Kid

        I got into a heated discussion with a neighbor who is convinced that chemtrails are real. He insisted that I watch a video of people testifying in front of a California county board of supervisors. I said that isn’t evidence. They aren’t under oath, they aren’t cross examined, aren’t subjected to a scientific review, and I said that I didn’t need to watch it.

        It was stupid of me to get into a discussion with him. I forgot that this is the same guy who has, in the last year, become a flat earth advocate.

  • Baby

    Just kissed Mac goodnight and he asked me if I had Mouthwash in my bathroom.. Jeeze..

    OK off to find another movie.. Watched ” Kama sutra ” on Netflix.. who knew it was about Sex? sigh.. I’m no prude but sex on screen is boring to me.. Finished it.. but afterwards I was like MEH..

    • What’sup

      And getting the sex off the screen takes a lot of cleaning. That stuff streaks.

      • Baby

        OMG hahahhhahhahaa ..

        I had sex on the computer once.. but I hurt my back..

        OK movie time..xo

      • daisy

        howl

    • It’s okay, Baby. I hugged lady Dodo last night, tried to undo her bra and asked for a password, cause it was hard. She laughed and asked me what for.

      • daisy

        You meant it was difficult , right ? Nat says we cannot post porn. I do not like it either.

        • WhiteCentauress

          Psst….Daisy…..I got it. 😂💦

          • daisy

            The unintentional ones are sometimes the funniest.

      • Look for the postit note.

      • Baby

        Hahhahaha .. Now THAT made my night Dodo.. funny.. I can just see her..she is so beautiful..

        Wait..that didn’t sound right.. I promise I never saw her with her bra off..

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Need to remember this. Might use it on my next girlfriend. lol

    • abdaman

      O.o Do they actually show anything? I wonder if real couples ever try any of that weird shit. it seems so embarrassing, hanging upside down with your vag out (i’m sure that’s one of the moves, lol)

      • Baby

        Nah.. plus I skipped through the sex parts..

  • WhiteCentauress

    There was an ad for “giving to your church electronically” on the left. It sounded like something Scientology would do. I clicked on it and did a screen shot. They might think it was a big joke to put an ad here. I’ve seen Scientology ads on Chris’s YouTube videos. Just curious, if anyone knows.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ae8e365c47e25a073f6e71f632d4c35c988357e04a483bcbadf595261f586b7.png

    • Robert Eckert

      The software that makes ads pop up on Disqus, Facebook and Youtube threads is kind of dumb: if you look at a lot of Scientology stuff, you will get a lot of Scientology ads the same as if you look at a bunch of gardening stuff you’ll draw ads for gardening tools. It never occurs to the computer program that people might look up things that they despise.

      • I’ve been seeing ads for that dumb magic water pipe since the article.

      • WhiteCentauress

        Oh, okay. At least the rug I looked for at Amazon has stopped stalking me. It showed up for about a month, and I didn’t know how to stop it. I have ad blocker, but I don’t run it on Tony’s site. Thanks.

  • The tamale lady came by tonight. Everything’s gonna be alright. Yay tamales.

    • Jimmy3

      You know the weather in Mexico?

      Cold today, hot tomorrow.

      • I see it.

      • Baby

        Cold Today…
        Hot TAMALE

        Hello? You better not block me Mr.

        • Jimmy3

          Who said that?

        • Rasha

          …chili today ^_^

          • Baby

            hahahhaha Yes.. Damn it only took 3 of us Rashie..ha

  • Jimmy3

    Slow night, eh?

    • Jimmy3
      • daisy

        ???

        • Jimmy3

          I blocked everyone except you. Now we can finally be alone together.

          • D’oh! I thought I was you’re special friend! Okay, then. Four way with fat beagle.

            • daisy

              First time she has moved all day. Her porn not tranferable to new computer so she has been depressed.

          • daisy

            Full disclosure I am all talk .

            • WhiteCentauress

              And it’s all funny…😂😂😂💦

            • daisy

              smile emoji

            • WhiteCentauress

              Imagining that. 🤓

            • Jimmy3

              Welcome to the block party.

            • WhiteCentauress

              Ha! Knew you couldn’t stand it. 😁 If we’re all blocked, how are you seeing us? Hope you charged your iPad. It’s 10%.

            • Jimmy3

              Block party guest list:

              White Centauress

            • WhiteCentauress

              I would never block you. 👵🏻 Going to change my name to something more intimidating now.

            • Jimmy3

              Kicked out of the party for being too kind.

            • WhiteCentauress

              That was the old me.

            • WhiteCentauress

              It’s just “Centauress” now.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              The snake in the headdress brings the whole ensemble together.

        • He can’t see you. We can talk about him now.

      • TexasBroad

        Lol

    • I don’t think anything’s happened all day. La, la, la . . .

      • Todd Tomorrow

        What would you open in Clearwater, Artoo?

        • Baby

          MY MOUTH

        • Liberated

          I would open a miniature golf course.

          The last hole would be the ” Hole “…..a big LRon head with his mouth open and his rotten teeth showing. Get the ball in his mouth before it closes again !

          A hole…that if you miss it, a mean little dwarf pops up and punches you in the face.
          Next hole ….if you miss…you get electrocuted by an e-meter.
          The 3rd hole is the hardest….get the ball in the volcano before 10 body thetans jump all over you.
          Then when you get pissed off…you have to go to the cashier, I mean reg….and pay for the whole course again.

          Then if you ever do complete the entire game…you get a plastic bowling trophy and a piece of paper with your name on it !

        • A beer.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    A nice, $cientology Museum Of Death would maybe drag some new life into downtown.

    • daisy

      my bucket list – Howdycon
      Graceland
      the museum of death
      Mappin Castle
      Oh and any liquor store or pharmacy without a guide.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        How about we invest in an old cattle trowler and reenact tossing $cions overboard. We could hire retired Casa Bonita divers.

      • Jimmy3

        I used to think a bucket list was supposed to be of things you wanted to actually fill up a bucket with. So my list was just bourbon.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I think I’ll try opening, Shoot an SP’s Shooting range in downtown.

  • daisy

    SNL- Sean Spicer skit , genius

  • TexasBroad

    Dear PriyankaVerma497 and disqus_nMykuieYLE:
    Thank you for liking my recent comments even though you make no comments at all. I am a little unsettled by the descriptions you provide in your disqus profiles (“upright love with young women only mesh sex video, sex photos every woman look here’ and “Hot beauties wishing love waiting for you here” but I’m sure you’re both fine, sincere people and not creepy at all.

    • Jimmy3

      How come pervbots never upvote me? I want some of that upright mesh love too. Well… I think I do. I’m not entirely sure what that is.

      • TexasBroad

        If you have to ask…

        • Jimmy3

          …then my skin will probably chafe? I know. :/ I have very sensitive skin.

      • TexasBroad

        Oh! I forgot the best one! israelmsnchez – “young woman chats sex live request for 1 double All the same, you’ll want to do there then.”
        Seriously…this just started. But it isn’t anything to worry about, right?

        • Jimmy3

          The man has a point tho. I will want to do there then.

          But if it continues and it bothers you, I suggest turning your profile private.

          • TexasBroad

            It only bothers me if it SHOULD bother me for some reason I don’t know; otherwise, i really don’t care. In addition to my fondness for onery, cantankerous, grumpy old men, I’m good with pervbots too. Who wouldn’t want to do there then?

            • Jimmy3

              I feel like I was born to do there then. All I ever want to do is there then.

              But I should correct myself, because I wasn’t clear in my last comment. By turn your profile private, I meant turn your profile private sexy request 1 time triple double car wax optional.

            • TexasBroad

              I’m in a post-taxes mood. I don’t want to do there then now. I might want to do there later

            • Jimmy3

              On a serious note tho, Disqus and its overlords are actually pretty decent at removing creepy spam bots. When we started our little channel, we’d get fucked up bot spam like that in the middle of the night/early morning. Some of it was really sick. But I’d remove it immediately and ban the account, fully expecting the same script to return, and it just wouldn’t. Different ones would pop up, but never for long.

            • TexasBroad

              Mine are just upvotes on a few comments though. I assumed it was nothing to worry about, but I am disqus/social media/technology challenged sometimes, so I just wanted to run it past the Bunker to make sure.

            • Jimmy3

              Nah, you should be fine. They’re not targeting you. They are scripts. Bots. Written vaguely to catch unsuspecting people with a broad appeal. Hey wait…. wtf.

            • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

              I remember those creepy spam bots……they really were sickening, especially at 3 or 4 AM in the morning. eww

        • Baby

          Are you getting your fans on here? Or another site?

          • TexasBroad

            There are other sites? Lol. Here, Baby. Just in the last week.

            • Baby

              I will keep an eye open.. I never get perves.. I’m too old..hahahah

            • Fixed.

            • Baby

              EEEEEEEEEEEEEEk

        • califa007

          Sounds like one of those random sentence generators. A column of nouns/subjects, followed by a column of verbs, followed by a column of objects/nouns. Can also have columns of adjectives or adverbs. Randomly choose one from each column, add a period, and voilà!

    • Baby

      Tell them to ” Squeeze Your Cans ” Broad..xo

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      OK….that’s creepy/smarmy.

      • TexasBroad

        Just bots, says J3. Random upvoting bots. I only saw those descriptions by going to their profile pages after seeing their unfamiliar names in my notifications. I don’t really get the point of it.

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          Well I guess it’s just par for the course for a lot of the internet. I don’t get the point of it either.

          • PJK

            I think it’s called dragnetting. The idea is to cast a wide net (post comments on as many sites possible that use Discus) with a link or message with a link in the hopes that someone will click on it or visit the site being “advertised”. They probably get a fee for every click-through they manage to generate. There’s always someone who clicks on these things just out of curiosity, so even if the percentage is small the absolute numbers are sufficient to earn some money. Any halfway decent script kiddie can write a script to automatically post these types of comments, so the initial investment is quite low.

            The other group of people who use these tactics are people with more malicious intents: they want to use known exploits in popular browsers to give you some malware. This malware can take several forms from rootkits to ransomware and is intended to directly make money of you (either from stealing your identity, to getting access to your financial details or even to hold your data to ransom by encrypting your harddisk(s) and unlocking them for a fee).

            The best course of action is to ignore the contents of these messages and never ever clicking on embedded links.

    • Ann B Watson

      Miss Ann noticed this Disquis liking my comments and I said wtf I do not know who you are. Very creepy & I do not send them any love ever!❤️ to you.

      • TexasBroad

        Love back. Happy Easter Miss Ann.

  • JJ

    Listening to Chris here.
    People who value Scientology to the degree it becomes the focus of their lives and the modus from which they operate and view the world around them. View of background personality issues.
    past history of communication issues, insecurity, need to be accepted, desire to be accepted by and associated with “higher value people”. Need to be exclusive, secret languages and we are “in” “better than” “superior to”…etc. A desire to be “right”. Valued by fellows. Need for structure, and guidance. Tendency for close minded thinking and real comfort with bias, “us vs them” thinking. All of nothing thinking. Easy dismissal of objections. Lack of critical thinking abilities. A neediness and insecurity that makes the pathway to “brain washing” easier.
    You find them, they find you, together you locate your ruin/needs, they offer the cure/workable scenario perfected denial, for a fee. Together you find the way to become a better more able superior you. Best approached by denial, emotional suppression, great enthusiasm and degrading everyone and anyone who does not agree with you on your New Life Path.
    Sounds like any new path in life that tells you it has the solution for life’s troubles but comes with strings of varying degrees of tensile strength.
    Language, the very way we describe the world we see. It really is a given that to control the language of a situation is in many way to control the object of a thing. And it isn’t done in just Scientology. If something has no word, no term defining it, it doesn’t exist, right?
    I’m thinking the more complex it is the more likely it is you can be sucked in. Hubbard has what, 85 million books about how to live your life the Scientology Way…? Stop Thought starts with Stop Talk?
    But that is all just me nattering…Clearly.
    OTO ah yes, what ever happens to you is your fault ie I can rape, main, kill and you brought it on yourself. Hmn that why is Hubbard upset seven year old girls don’t want him sucking face with them? Isn’t it their fault it they don’t like it?
    You know there is some aspect of this in Gypsy communities. The concept of stealing s sometimes seen as the victims fault. ie if you get stolen from it is your fault. Not sure if it is agreed when they themselves as an individual is stolen from…
    Cause, as absolution. No wonder DM doesn’t do sec-checks, when you are a sociopath, you don’t have the conscience that says you have done a wrong/overt. Doy!

  • daisy
    • JJ

      Pahaha!

    • Baby

      night sweetheart.. thinking of your Mama… kisses..

  • Sarah James

    When tom cruise moves to clearwater – do you think he will run for mayor or just be top movie star of the village?

    • JJ

      I don’t think he’ll be home very often. Just a place to store his motorcycles and duds between movies.

      • Baby

        He may be home..
        BUT.. His Lights won’t be on. They never are.

        • JJ

          Gah what if it is the other way around? The lights are on but he “isn’t” home…Android…

    • Shivani33

      Tom has a very, very tight jaw. He could be the head nutcracker. If he loosens up, a position could open up for him at The Enturbulation Amusement Park, where he’ll be a real sensation with his Gravity-Defying Face. Two dollah only for four balls.

    • Liberated

      He’ll never be mayor…but I can see an M Night Shyamalan movie in the making.
      I mean, all the essential weird parts are there.

  • Over the years i have come to the conclusion that only Scientologist have a Reactive Mind and they are trying to remove it, but they can’t.

    • Liberated

      The only way to remove it, is to leave.
      Blow man blow !

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Just a random thought….how can the CoS produce more sewage in Clearwater than a HOSPITAL ???? (Morton Plant Hospital is third on the list) Hospitals produce a lot of sewage due to around the clock use of bathrooms/showers not to mention other sources of sewage, like leftover food from patients and staff. That’s just weird. Since their numbers are dwindling, what on earth are they doing to produce that much sewage? Rice and bean diet? Throwing contraband down the sewer?

  • MostEthicalPimp

    I must share my parking lot OT phenomenon! Or is that SP phenomenon? This blows just “getting spots closer to the store,” out of the water! It’s like I moved past OT IX, parking in magnitude. It must be all those IAS donations finally kicking in! I was at a paid lot where you need to buy a parking stub to display on your dash. Anyway, I was waiting for a family to leave to get their spot near the exit as any OT VIII release is entitled to! But before they left the wife came up to my car. And handed me, her parking pass and said “Here, we’ve paid for the whole day, someone might as well use it!” I gave the acknowledgement “Oh, thank you.” Thanks only to my TR training!! To park as along as I needed would have been $20+. PS, I saw the attendant was looking at people so I did go up to the machine and pretend to buy a ticket and return to my car to “place it on the dash.” My ability to perceive him could only be due having my 88 precepts fully recovered thanks to Super Power!!! PPS. I will be money ahead after this happens five thousand more times!

    • Liberated

      What a wonderful win…you pulled it in man !

      Don’t ya love when something good happens in a person’s life, the cult takes the credit, and when something awful happens in someone’s life….well, sorry dude, you must be PTS.

    • JaxNGold

      Lovin’ the snark! Lol…you sold me on this one. Can’t wait to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to find good parking spaces and experience kindness in others.

      It just kills me that $cientologists actually believe these so-called “wins” can only come from Hubbard’s “tech” by paying obscene amounts of money to the cult. It’s just so absurd.

  • OOkpik

    Hmmm. This looks like a good spot to wait for this morning’s post.

    Happy Easter, Bunker.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8959fed0afc5a77298db1b507da8ccc1dcd27e502ad7489e73fd998fd3457177.gif

  • John Prince

    How can 5% of Clearwater ŕesidents produce so much Shit?..
    Of course! They’re the last idiotic followers of elron 👽💆

  • What’sup

    I see you, Jimmy. You’re up early.

    • Jimmy3

      I’m up late workin for my man. Today’s his big day.

      • Robert Eckert

        The Easter Leprechaun, who has a pot of golden eggs? (Actually, they’re not gold, but gold foil wrapped around chocolate, which is even better.)

      • “I’m up late waiting for my man” Fixed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hugY9CwhfzE

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          I sent you a message on an old thread – did you get it?

          • With the pic? Yes.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              That’s the one.

            • I remember now.
              I actually have a perfect memory. Its just that its extremely short.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I know an organization that can help you with that.

            • With what?

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I see what you did there.

            • Where?

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Good morning and happy Easter!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiM_whAa9U

  • Kristen

    A “church” generates more poo than a hospital. Gobsmacked.

  • Iconoclast Six

    Eww. Thetan poo.

  • janedoe2

    The church put up a copy cat Underground Bunker site to slime Tony. I typed in his address with “.com” at the end by mistake and was taken to their look alike site meant to dead agent and slime Tony. Tony’s address is “.net” and they bought the same with “.com” so as to make it look like that is his site. It is similar to what they did when they bought out CANN and made it into their site. Tony, is there any way you can buy your site with “.com” so as to kick them out?

    • Qbird

      tonyortega.ORG <— I believe. dunno what .net would yield. ha

      eta: tonyortega.NET = a Tony Ortega Visual Artist. moar ha!

      • janedoe2

        My mistake. It is “… .org.” Is there a way Tony could buy the rights to all the sound alike web sites so that the church can’t take one to slime him and make it look like it is really his site?

        • Qbird

          Hi again JaneDoe2. I do not know how all that works specifically… buying domains & what not. Guess a person just has to sift thru the b.s. and find their way to the actual website that contains TO’s work. You found the right one, so cool! That nasty bit’o work has been up for a long time & is easy to ignore… OR
          allows a pserson to see exactly how this {{church}} operates.

  • Peter

    According to Mickiewicz’s idea, Clearwater/Tampa will be as Orwell (1984).
    People of this town will write at each other denunciations (they write also now), and in this town there will be a police of thought (it is also now – the ethics-officer).
    Interestingly, what people will live there?

  • Peter

    As occupy the city.
    “The mayor of Clearwater, Gabe Cazares, was notified that such important downtown locations had changed hands, and then he noticed something strange — the “United Churches of Florida” were guarding their new properties with men carrying night sticks and cans of mace. When he asked them about it, they said they had “to protect themselves.” It seemed bizarre for a sleepy vacation beach town. Eventually, later in 1975, Cazares was tipped to the truth: His town was under invasion by the Church of Scientology. ”
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/03/02/new-today-memoir-with-shocking-claims-by-notorious-scientology-spy-merrell-vannier/