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Dungeons & Dragons and Scientology collide: Can we get a saving throw on that engram?

 
Larry Elmore has been called the best thing that ever happened to Dungeons & Dragons art (although personally, your proprietor is more of a Trampier man), and we wondered what Elmore’s legions of role-playing fans might think if they knew that for the past four years, he’s been helping out the Church of Scientology.

This Sunday, Scientology will host its annual “L. Ron Hubbard’s Writers and Illustrators of the Future” contest awards ceremony at the Wilshire Ebell Theater in Hollywood.

Back in 2012, we dispelled some of the myths about the contest. Contrary to what some of its participants may like to believe, the contest is very much a Church of Scientology owned and funded project whose sole purpose is to promote Hubbard’s image and pretend that his reputation as a science fiction writer is really on par with the contest’s illustrious judges.

The contest was started in 1983, during the period when Hubbard was in hiding from process servers and government investigators but had put out his doorstop of a science fiction novel, Battlefield Earth, and was trying to rebuild his reputation as a fiction writer after being out of the game for many years. Six years later (and three years after Hubbard’s death), in 1989 an illustrator’s contest was added, and each year the quarterly winners are invited to a lavish ceremony in Los Angeles where a writer and an illustrator are named that year’s overall winners. Particularly on the writing side the list of judges has been top notch, with such names as Algis Budrys, Frank Herbert, Anne McCaffrey, Larry Niven, Robert Silverberg, Theodore Sturgeon, Roger Zelazny, and Orson Scott Card.

Larry Elmore joined the list of illustrator judges in January 2013, after we had exposed the troubling links between the contest and Scientology’s notorious abuses. In our 2012 article, we reported that in 2004 Barbara Ruiz, who ran the contest then for Scientology’s Author Services Inc. (Hubbard’s literary agency), was seen helping to operate “The Hole,” the prison for Sea Org executives that Scientology leader David Miscavige created that year. One of its prisoners was Mike Rinder (now co-star with Leah Remini on her A&E series, Scientology and the Aftermath), and he was one of three sources who identified Ruiz as one of the people running the bizarre prison.

Later that year, Ruiz helped run the 2004 writers and illustrators contest, and then she vanished. We’ve received no reports of her whereabouts since. She’s just one of many Scientology executives who were made to disappear by David Miscavige.

Despite our report directly linking the contest with Scientology’s abuses, Elmore joined the contest as a judge, which means like the others he gets to enjoy a trip to Hollywood where Scientology spends money like it was going out of style. (At least a few participants have pointed out that the spendy richness of the contest and its ceremony are a little too obvious. Not to mention the giant portrait of Hubbard that hangs over the stage, accepting the fulsome thanks of every winner, as they are so obviously instructed to do.)

But Elmore tells us that he hadn’t heard about our reporting, and that he has no association with the church. “I am not aware of any of this. I am only a judge at the Writers and Artists of the Future Contest. I have no other affiliations with them. I am not a Scientologist, and I have mentioned to them that I have no interest in any of that stuff,” he said to us in an email this week. “I know that they have a ‘reputation,’ but it seems that the particular contest for new artists and writers is on the level. Unless proven differently, I really do [believe that]. But keep me informed, OK?”

We assured him that as far as we know the contest is very much on the level, and quite prestigious. But it only exists because the Church of Scientology spends fabulous sums, and with the purpose of burnishing Hubbard’s reputation by having his name in proximity to a legend like Larry Elmore.

From 1981 to 1987, Elmore worked for TSR and produced some of the most well known images for Dungeons & Dragons, particularly in its Dragonlance line. He’s freelanced since then, and like most artists he’s probably never been paid what he deserved. But taking money from Scientology, especially when it’s tied directly to brutal treatment of Sea Org employees? We were disappointed to hear that he was unaware of our previous reporting.

But we told him we’d appreciate it if he might ask the contest’s Joni Labaqui about Barbara Ruiz and her disappearance.

Here’s Elmore with fellow judge Nancy Kress and illustrator-winner Michelle Lockamy in 2015…

 

 
We also found this photograph on his Facebook page. It’s a picture of Elmore with Sea Org member and Galaxy Press official Emily Jones, daughter of Phil and Willie Jones, who are known for putting up billboards to protest Scientology’s “disconnection” policy that keeps them separated from Emily and her brother Mike.

 

 
It’s a shame that Galaxy Press — which publishes Hubbard’s old fiction in new editions and employs Sea Org workers — would use Elmore like a prop in this fashion.

The 33rd Writers and Illustrators Contest awards gala will happen Sunday night at 6:30 pm Pacific time, and will probably stream live as it has the past few years. We’ll be watching.

 
UPDATE: As part of the lavish weeklong ceremony paid for by Scientology, the writer finalists take part in a workshop. And in case you had any doubts about what was really going on, here’s a photo from this week’s activities (caption theirs)…

 

 
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Aaron Smith-Levin: How to get someone to leave Scientology

Says Aaron: “I discuss Scientology’s confidential ‘Clear Cognition’ and how telling a Scientologist what it is might just lead to them leaving Scientology.”

 

 
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Countdown to Denver!

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,705 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,808 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,302 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,342 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,054 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 521 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,639 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,809 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,129 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,104 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 460 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,762 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 869 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,271 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,144 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 725 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,230 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,474 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,583 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on March 29, 2017 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Shivani33

    Here’s some response to Aaron Smith-Levin’s excellent video.
    From necessity, I’ve thought a lot about what techniques are used to keep people involved, entangled and dependent upon “spiritual leaders” and the endorsed, required practices which are dispensed to achieve prescribed goals. A long con game has inherently nebulous, unachievable goals. There’s a system set up to put a seeker beneath someone else’s authority, someone or something with more presumed qualification or spiritual rank, who can decide what the disciple’s level of worthiness is. The student can get stuck in a hard double bind of being told that only the student can do the work of self-improvement, yet also being told repeatedly that his work is not good enough and that there are so many levels ahead. The futility is kept invisible; only you never arrive. People see this at different levels on con game spiritual paths and still stay put, caught up in dependency.

    Personally, one has an inner struggle about maintaining the ability to distinguish between unworthiness and its miseries versus simple, receptive humility.

    Unworthiness can be low self-esteem, accompanied by a kind of neediness which can be exploited by spiritual pretenders. Unworthiness is not humility, though. Unworthiness is hungry for attention, reassurances and soothing self-validation.

    There’s even a little scrap of food thrown in for the unworthy ego. A placebo is given, saying that the seeker is special and superior, because he is miles ahead of anyone who is not at least trying to do this “spiritual” work. This is designed to make you feel better about surrendering to every type of imposition, maybe even to be self-congratulatory about it. For me, this superiority is just the flipside of unworthiness. It’s still self-involved imbalance and easily exploitable.

    Along with the unworthiness factor, there’s another essential aspect to the long con entanglement. It is the fear of abandonment. If you do not surrender yourself to the rules, you will be condemned and expelled. If you don’t avoid and condemn those who disagree with your path, you are not dedicated enough. Whether you are being abandoned or you’re the one who is abandoning others, the result is the same. There is more isolation. There’s more unresolved pain, increased inner and outer conflict. In the name of religion (and politics) otherwise unconscionable acts can be encouraged and justified.

    I feel that a sense of unworthiness and the fear of abandonment are among the last illusions to encounter when realizing who & what has gotten a stranglehold on anyone’s freedom. I include smug superiority as the flipside to unworthiness. At least this is my own experience, and I keep trusting that people are able to leave behind abusiveness disguised as spirituality, to see through the mental and emotional distortions, both without and within.

    • OOkpik

      Thank you, Shivani, for this well-written and thoughtful post.

  • WhiteCentauress

    Here’s my contribution to “Dungeons and Dragons”Day at the Bunker. I thought it looked like Joy Villa, even though I did it in 2014. Now I hope the dragon takes a small bite out of her https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4a47e17693488ad37015450cb7011aa97aecb340655e3fdfd7dbcbef1a0dc4fc.jpg

  • Rasha

    Gotta bail out early, Bunks. Much to do, got some poetry (such as it is) done, and now need to do laundry. May be in later, but my Uncle left me some damn fine wine, and that cork’s been pulled.

    Aaron’s video is so awesome. Funny how educational and erudite people become when they freakin’ leave Scientology….

    Just sayin’. ^_^

    • Syd

      Girl, look at what I just posted…be careful with that laundry!

    • daisy

      Oh I am sorry, I will write the poem out tomorrow. I forgot honey

      • Rasha

        Oh! I found it, Dayz! ^_^ I just write these things out and leave them laying around wherever. But thanks! ^_^ *hugz*

  • Syd

    Gah!! Which one of you has OT powers? I just washed my rust jeans (shut up) and turned an entire load of laundry orange……. any suggestions??

    • WhiteCentauress

      Learn to love orange?

      • Syd

        It’s not even pretty orange, it’s dingy orange – I can’t love that ☹️

        • WhiteCentauress

          Try Oxi-Clean. It gets out a lot of things other stuff won’t. I use a lot of it.

          • Syd

            I’m about to try the lemon juice & I’ll throw some oxyclean in as a booster. Thanks!

    • Jimmy3

      Do you still have the water? You bottle that and you make a fortune in the spray tan market.

      • Syd

        Well, it was a Trumpy color so would have been a gold mine – but it’s gone.

        • Jimmy3

          Some time you’ll have to tell why you have “rust jeans”. I understand you’re laundratized at the moment, so no pressure now. But when you’re comfortable enough.

          • Syd

            Because all the cool girls wear rust jeans, that’s why! My jeans are ruined, my bras are orange, back to the cool girls sticking magnets on my back brace……

    • Rasha

      Big fan of Nailgun Punk, so I don’t see a big problem. ^_^

      Lemon juice helps….. how big was the load?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        That’s a very personal question, Rash.

        • Rasha

          You! Sit over th- I mean, stand over there! *stern look*

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            I’ll go stand in the bar.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Who do I gotta show my ass to to get a drink around here?

      • Syd

        Medium – ruined about 4 shirts, a couple pair of pants and a couple of bras (don’t judge, I was being lazy). I’ll try the lemon juice…I guess a whole plastic lemon?

        • OOkpik

          I suggest you zest it first. πŸ™‚
          Oh, and warm or cold water.
          eta: Vinegar works just as “well”. Miracles help.

          • Syd

            Zest as in bath soap?

            • OOkpik

              Zest as in lemon. I was joking. Sorry. (not)

            • WhiteCentauress

              But don’t try it on the plastic ones.

            • WhiteCentauress

              As in little tiny specialty grater for rinds. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

            • Syd

              You can’t really expect me to think straight right now…… πŸ™‚πŸ™‚

        • Rasha

          Honestly, I haven’t tried it, but I’ve heard it does a good job…. There’s always OXY-Clean (or whatever it’s called), though I don’t know how an oxidizer helps clean clothes of an oxidized metal… They’ll smell nice with lemon, though! ^_^

        • Rasha

          Nailgun Punk, babe.

    • DangDadgummit

      dang! dadgummit!

      • Rasha

        I was going for “Goldarnnit”, but I’ll go with your reply.

        • Dagnabit

          Dagnabit!

          • Rasha

            ShhhhBAP!

            • DangDadgummit

              golldarnnit !

            • OOkpik

              Shitfuckdamn! OOpsie!

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Orange is the new bleak.

      Don’t think.
      Twice.
      It’s Alt-Right

      • Syd

        πŸ™‚

    • Todd Tomorrow

      ….

      • Syd

        I know……it was the Jenna Elfman bashing. Wait, this is HER fault!

        • DangDadgummit

          dang straight it is πŸ™‚

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Now you put them in I mean pulled it in.

    • Robert Eckert

      Funny, my brother was just reminiscing about the time he came home from college (45 minutes away) in desperation because he had done his laundry for the first time and had turned all of his socks and T-shirts pink. He had always assumed that Mom was just being fussy when she talked about the importance of separating whites from colors, and learned to his shock that she meant it. And: by some eldritch magic, Mom turned all his socks and T-shirts white again!

      • Syd

        πŸ™‚ wish I had your mom’s secret laundry magic right now!

        • OOkpik

          A little bleach for whites only.

      • I wish I had know that when I did JuJitsu, I once washed my gi (the ‘angry white pyjamas’ everyone wears) and then discovered that a pair of bright red knickers had been left in the machine (don’t ask).

        For a couple of weeks (until it finally washed out) I had to wear a light pink gi.

        • Robert Eckert

          Just put a Hello Kitty patch on it, and go with it.

    • daisy

      They used to have a product at Walmart – I think it was call Magic 7 or something like that . I would ask about it. Try Oxy-clean

      • Syd

        I just threw them in with some lemon juice & oxyclean….we’ll see if this works. Thanks for all the suggestions!

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Tequila!

      • Syd

        I’m pretty sure that was why I washed rust jeans with light clothes to begin with.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Tequila is a housewife’s best friend – not in this case, obviously, but… Cheers!

          • Syd

            So true – I think I’ll give my old friend a visit right now….

    • Syd

      The lemon juice & oxyclean didn’t work ☹️ – thanks for the tips though, much appreciated.

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • Jimmy3

      Guarantee his immunity, and then hang him for treason. Your feet are immune from the ground, traitor.

      • Jimmy3

        Don’t get me wrong, tho. I want to hear his testimony first.

      • daisy

        Chant – Lock him up ! Lock him up !

        • Jimmy3

          No. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants and traitors.

    • daisy

      How slimy is it that he will take the fifth if he doesn*t get it . He was the National Securuity Advisor for F**K sake . I am with Jimmy . Hang him right beside Trump.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Is it too early for Princess Joy to start working on her “Mike Pence” dress for next year’s Grammys?

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Must be some bad stuff. Very suspicious.

    • Robert Eckert
  • Rasha

    Okay, everyone. Rasha’s got stuff to do, so all Bunks need to stop commenting for a few hours. Just knock it off for a bit.

    Here – I’ll try to be back later….. just…. stay busy…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3RBn3MG8ms

  • Rasha

    …and click the heart.

    • Jimmy3

      No. (F5)

      • Rasha

        No. (F3)

        • Jimmy3

          I made a typo below. I just wanted people to refresh before they read it and had a chance to judge me. But the important thing to remember is that if we stick together, we’ll be okay. We can do this. Nothing but green pastures and Bob M.F. Evans.

          • Rasha

            Jimmy. Stop. Commenting. For just a bit. I specifically told the Bunker to not post until I got my [redacted] chores done. If it’s easier, we’ll refrain from judgement until your insurance company provides you with a loaner avi…. Now, I got Perfume blasting in the background and I’m working on Nailgun Punk, so when I’ve finished, I’ll let you all know when it’s okay to post……

      • Vaquera

        “So, they said, ‘Have you ever used an F5?’ (hahaha) I looked at ’em and you know, I would have thought what a beautiful thing because maybe one day it’ll be like that. You know what I’m saying? Maybe one day it will be that…’Wow! F5s! They’ll just read about those in the history books,’ you know? (hahaha)”

        • Rasha

          (so giggling!!!)

        • Jimmy3

          I don’t fool around with that. I don’t hesitate to put ethics in on anyone. But whatever. You see things.

          • Jimmy3

            YOU DONT THINK I LIKE TO ROMP AND PLAY??? I’ll go fucking anonsparrow on this board without a moments fucking hesitation. How does a moment even fuck a hesitation?????

            And I say, hey, do you really want to find out? We have that responsibility to say, hey, let’s really get it done.

            • Vaquera

              Have a breakfast taco. It’ll all be ok, dearie.

          • WhiteCentauress

            Tom?

        • WhiteCentauress

          I’m hoping F5 is code for Scientologist.

          • Robert Eckert

            It’s an in-joke among long-timers. In the early days of Disqus, you could attach pictures but people who clicked on the new-comments above/below would not see the picture, sometimes would just see a blank post if the poster did not remember to add “F5” reminding everybody that it was necessary to refresh the screen (F5 button on Windows laptops) to see the picture.

            • Jimmy3

              “In the early days…” Disqus fixed that only months ago. It’s still a plausible rouse…

            • Robert Eckert

              Not even a year ago? Somehow the era B.L. (Before Leah) seems longer ago.

    • salin

      Here is a Green comet (what a cool shot) as a reminder that the real space opera happens in the sky – not in the mind (and Click the recommend!)

      http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=134138

      • Rasha

        Gorgeous….

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Ever have one of those days and you can’t quite figure out why? I’ve tried to psych myself out of this funk but it keeps lingering. Mike Nickol’s once said β€˜The champagne is flat and the caviar has run outβ€”will it never end’? But in my work i have to be aware of what is happening in the news. When trump’s name gets mentioned my stomach gets a sick, sinking feeling. I can’t do this for the next four years. I’ll get an ulcer.

    • Get yourself and the dogs some good food, music, movie and talk to positive, creative people.
      It will pass.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Just not having much luck with that today. I haven’t tried the movie yet so I’ll do that. Cheers.

        • Hugs.

        • Robert Eckert

          You know the best kind of movie for this kind of mood? A really really dumb comedy. I won’t suggest one because what one person finds dumb and funny, another finds dumb and insufferable, but you know what you like.

    • Robert Eckert

      It looks like you might not have to.

    • WhiteCentauress

      I get out in Nature when I’m like that. Coming to the Bunker helps. If all else fails order this pin cushion.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b86d50defcb6258e0f4198d5252ff4b9e6a0fb00376fd7b910dbce8e79c1625d.png

      • Rasha

        UNSEE!!!!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Love the little hands.

        • Mick Roberts

          The hands aren’t the only thing that’s “little” on that doll…..just sayin’…..

    • Syd

      Doing something mindless for a bit helps….watch a movie, relax & listen to music maybe? Hope you feel better soon.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Thx.

    • Liberated

      I’m having one of those days too.
      It’s almost over.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Thank god. Opted for a couple valiums a hot shower, one more dog walk and remembered I forgot to really eat today.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      When I feel that way, I try to focus on all I am grateful for. Count my blessings. Give it a try.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I tried that first. Todd to self” So many people don’t even have the luxury to be alive”. That was sort of covered in my quote above,” The champagne is flat and the caviar has run outβ€”will it never end’? I appreciate it 3feet.

    • chukicita

      One day at a time. It is like the fight we have here, a relay race. It is ok to pass the baton. You can’t always see it but others are helping, too. We are not alone.

    • daisy

      (((( HUGS ))) I do not think you will have to.

    • littlefish

      I can listen to reporters discuss the day’s events but the moment I hear Dear Leader’s voice I have to change the radio or tv station. I just can’t do it.

  • Huh. A food and diet site covers the Purif, and links here and Narconon Exposed. Not bad for the venue, but they could have stressed the danger more.

    http://www.delish.com/food/a52284/scientology-purification-rundown-detox/

    • WhiteCentauress

      Word is getting out. Notice he called auditing “hypnotizing”. Sounds like he’s looking forward to Leah’s Season 2. Thanks. That was interesting.

    • Rasha

      ^^^^^^^_^

      SO HAPPEH I checked in!!! *hits “replay” again*

      *stops headbanging* …Thanks, Dodo!!!!!!! ^_^ *resumes headbanging*

      • Rasha

        …this is so good…..

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Um simply? I do!!

  • Noesis

    Have been airborne all day and have not read through the comments. It’s likely this has been remarked upon several times but I’ll add my thoughts anyway.

    The two L. Ron Hubbard’s Writers and Illustrators of the Future finalists studying in the pic below have fairly pained expressions on their faces. Their body language reeks of M/U’s, Skipped Gradients and Lack of Mass.

    They also look like they violently disagree with the drivel they are reading (which is identified in the caption.)

    Maybe they will have to do 5 or 6 intensives of FPRD so they can “handle” their disagreements?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba401c79f8ba9109d828db76e72033b1e1ca2f4ad3afcf23a3e7ed352ddaed4b.jpg

  • chukicita

    Just got home from seeing Squeeze My Cans. It flew by. Cathy is comfortably engaging and very entertaining. The story is hers, and its authenticity shows. The house was more than 75 percent capacity, I would say. There were enough groans and laughs at certain points that I’m sure there were some exes in the house.

    One of the biggest laughs – and there were lots – came when she was reenacting her first foray onto the internet to look up Scientology. It was tense and she recounted learning about what really happened to Lisa McPherson, and other people she knew like Greg Basham. Then she said almost under her breath, “who is this Tony Ortega and how does he know all this,” and about half the crowd burst out laughing.

    So I guess I wasn’t the only Bunkeroo in attendance.

    Because the house manager is an old friend, I came early to help with security. It was pretty peaceful, just one bearded guy with a backpack who arrived too late to get in and did not have a ticket but asked if he could sit in the lobby and read. He left about five minutes after the show let out and about 30 seconds after I held up my camera and started taking pix. House mgr told me there had been lots of phone calls after today’s cover story in the Times entertainment section, many wanting to know if there were tix available.

    Y’all are gonna love this show at Howdycon!

    • Jimmy3

      Whenever I’m late for something and don’t have a ticket, I just hang around and “read”. That’s why I’m mistakenly on the No-Fly list.

      • chukicita

        The guy looked kind of like Fly. Only his beard was lighter.

        • Jimmy3

          Don’t trust him. He never had a ticket!

    • Baby

      Oh Chuck so glad that you got to see it..

      I went to the Drs and I yelled at him for giving me Cipro.. and told him about all my side effects.. and I went PPPPPffffffffffffffffft to him..

      and he laughed and said.. ” Did you just spit on me..? ” Well, I had to tell him quickly about being banned from Clearwater Library.

      I told him I was a critic of Scientology.. He said.. ” Stay away from them they are dangerous.. ”

      He then said.. ” Haven’t you ever read TONY ORTEGA? I laughed so hard I almost fell off the examination table. Small world eh?

      • Jimmy3

        Pffffffffffffffffffffftftftffff

        • Baby

          Yep.. I gotta stop doing that..

          • chukicita

            No, never stop doing that!

            • Baby

              Awwwww.. Well, apparently I have done it to Mac more than once and he said that I was
              ” Immature” when I don’t get my way..

              Well, that and stomping my foot.

          • Jimmy3

            Girl, you’re my friend when I’m in need, baby

            • Baby

              I will spit on anybody any day for you Jimmy..

            • Jimmy3

              Closer than my peeps you are to me.

            • Baby

              I am closer to you than the 2 mms in your name.

            • Jimmy3

              What if they have peanuts innem

            • Baby

              That just means they are boys..

      • chukicita

        Nine out of ten doctors recommend Ortega. And the tenth is Minkoff.

        • Baby

          that dude reading..hahahha PI trying to catch who was in crowd.. so obvious.

        • Jimmy3

          That is truly a great line. Worthy of remembrance. Lou, write that down for me.

      • Vaquera

        True story?

        • Baby

          Happened 2 days ago.. had to go in for my yearly Paxil review..

          I love my Dr. but made him quite aware that I will kill him if he ever gave me Cipro again..

          • Vaquera

            You’re great Bunker PR, Babydoll. (Babydoll was the name of my first horse.)

            • Baby

              Awww Babydoll how cute.. .. I told you I was horse crazy until I saw Snot coming out of a horse’s nose in 5th grade

              That did it for me.

            • Vaquera

              Horsey colds happen.

            • Baby

              I know.. but Ewwww I just couldn’t get past it.. Now every time I see a horse I look right at his nose first.. sigh

            • PerpetualOutflow

              And Jenna did it for the rest of us.

        • Baby

          Promise.. I’m way too old to lie.. the next day ( Yesterday ) colonoscopy and EG .. See how much fun I’m having.

          I told my Dr. about my tests and he said.. ” Well don’t let them use the same scopes..make sure they change them..” Hardy Har har… He’s a trip.. He always wears an Island Shirt and is really short

          ( Shorter than me..and Round ) he reminds me of Twidle dum and Twidle Dee..and shit it just dawned on me he may be reading..sigh

          • Vaquera

            Hee hee hee

          • chukicita

            Wave!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Hey Doc! Boy, do we have stories!

            Good to see you here Baby.

            • Baby

              Thanks Sweetheart.. I slept all day on the Chaise Lounge Mac got me at Home Depot.. outside on the deck..

              It was like a scene straight out of Beaches..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Hopefully in the shade?

            • Baby

              Actually it was.. I was under the covers.. and just passed out .. It was so breezy ..I got cabin fever being in all the time..( still can’t drive) so

              Now I will be outside stark Nekked under the blanket..hahahhahaha shhhhhhh don’t tell..
              ( No one ever ever comes by..so I’m safe..)

          • PerpetualOutflow

            Hahahaha…Baby we have missed you.

            • Baby

              Oh thank you PO.. miss you too honey..

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Kisses

          • EmmaDaoust

            LOL Baby!

            • Baby

              Hi emmie.. You always get my humor..hahhaa

            • EmmaDaoust

              You’re the living end, Baby! I’m not around much, but it’s good to see you, and I’m glad you’re starting to feel some better. xo

              ETA: P.S. Hi Baby’s doc!

            • Baby

              OH you are so wonderful.. OMG if Doc is reading I’ll just die..

              He started reading Tony at the Village Voice..

      • daisy

        It has been so lovely that you have been around more. ( I even watched – Galaxy of the Guardians from your recommendation , oh and Fly*s )

        • Baby

          Thanks Daisy.. OK now.. Did you like it? Tell the truth..

          • daisy

            I didn*t hate it. I am not a fan of special affects action. I loved the humor and sweetness. I wouldn*t watch it again but I am glad I watched it once. I can see why other people liked it . I loved the mouthy racoon. We had 5 of those in our shop. It cost a lot to relocate them.

            • Jimmy3

              Just YouTube search “guardians of the galAXy 2 trailer” and come back and say you won’t watch it again.

            • Baby

              Well Daisy.. You are a trooper for watching it.. I loved the mouthy racoon too..

              Hey you are talkin to someone who never watched Star Wars or Star Trek.. so I get what you are saying..

            • DangDadgummit

              break down and binge watch ’em all :))

            • DangDadgummit

              Catch Passengers with Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt.
              Not a special f/x movie. A 2 character study.
              You may very well enjoy the heck outta it.

            • daisy

              I saw the trailer . That did look good. I will watch it on Netflix

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Nooooooooo! He really said that?

        P.S. Cipro is nasty.

        • Baby

          Yes.. He said that.. That man knows everything about everything.. He hates Scientology.. and he said.. ” Please tell me you will NEVER go back there.. ” Ehhhh

          He asked me to have a beer with him once..I think he was puttin the moves on me.

          Cipro is so nasty.. My wrists both have tendinitis. I would be involved with a class action suit if I wouldn’t have to involve my Dr. I just can’t do that to him.

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Babe, you’s a bad baby!!! Loves it!!

        • Baby

          Bad..to the bone I’m afraid

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Did you go with hubby or anyone else? What did they think of the show?

      • chukicita

        I was by myself, hubby had rehearsal. Cathy got a standing ovation.

    • Thank you for seeing her and for the report Chucki!

    • Taffy Sinclair

      I so wish she would come to my area!!!

  • Vaquera
    • Baby

      Cool song.. Would like it better without the young kid Scattin .. Me No LIkey

      • Vaquera

        (Psst – it’s called beat box)

        • Baby

          ” Would like it better without the young kid Beat Boxing..”

          • Vaquera

            There you go. Your grandkids will think you’re totes hip.

            • Baby

              Girl..I put the Hip in the Hokey Pokey

            • chukicita

              That’s what it’s all about.

            • Baby

              wink.. Ya betcha.. xo

  • Jimmy3

    Tell me why you don’t want to see this movie and I’ll tell you why I should have your Canadian citizenship.
    http://youtu.be/2cv2ueYnKjg

    • Baby

      Can’t wait! I love Chris..oh and baby groot..

      • DangDadgummit

        Passengers, then, will slay you πŸ™‚

        • Baby

          Thanks Dang.. I will look for it..

          • DangDadgummit

            More chemistry between Jennifer and Chris than from all the chemtrails over Tiaville, Ohio.

            • Baby

              hahahha

    • daisy

      It does look good. I forgot how much I liked the music too.

      • Jimmy3

        I’m gonna use your name on a passport anyway. I can pass as “daisy” if I shave.

        • daisy

          You would more likely be able to pass as daisy if you didn*t shave. I wouldn*t leave now , I think it is about to get fun down there.

          • Jimmy3

            I was talking about my face, but if you think I should go all out… I don’t have as much experience with Canadian border security as you.

            • daisy

              Do not shave anything and sometimes you have to demand the search.

    • Old music usually lasts better than old food.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdic9mmjmBI

      • Jimmy3

        I’m ready ok, Dad? I know. The ramen packets and the stuff. It’s all right.

  • Baby
    • chukicita

      Sweet dreams!

      • Baby

        thanks curly.. xo

    • Rock Stars. So happy I met every one of them!

      • Baby

        The Bunkerues are a feisty bunch eh.. ?

        • Indeed. Hugs and kisses, Baby!

          • Baby

            Hugs and kisses to you too sweet Dodo..

      • Vaquera

        Right back atcha, Dodo.

      • Baby

        me to and you and your lovely wife and friend.

    • daisy

      Bunker Babes . Good looking bunch

      • Baby

        We are missing Daisy on our bed!

    • Goodnight, dear Behbeh!

      • Baby

        thanks Artie.. xoxoxo can’t believe I slept that long..

    • Jimmy3

      I keep clicking but it doesnt play.
      Wtf happens

      • Baby

        you silly..

        When you click we all start playing strip poker..duh

        • Jimmy3

          Who wins? More importantly, who loses???? Who— you know what, don’t tell me. I wanna see it myself

          • Baby

            Hahhaha.. I personally dealt the hands.. so Thank God it wasn’t me..shhhhhh … ( only the boots were left on ..)

    • Vaquera

      There’s your trouble.

      • Baby

        Trouble with a Capital T..
        With Rhymes with Texas..

    • Vaquera
      • Baby

        OMG ..I never saw this before.. If I did I totally forgot it..How cute.. I’m afraid if I would go to Denver you guys would be doing this with me 24/7 ..

        • Mick Roberts

          Late to this party, but I’m assuming that’s you, Baby, snuggled up on that fella who seems very happy to have you on his chest. But if you don’t mind me asking, what are the Bunker names for all of the other people in those two pictures (3 other ladies on top and the 2 guys on the bottom)? I only came to the Bunker 2-3 months ago, so I guess I missed all of the first Howdy Con posts.

          • Baby

            Sorry Mick.. unwritten rule at Bunker.. we don’t identify ..

            • Mick Roberts

              Ahh ok, gotcha. Thought this might be posted already from last year or something.

  • Gib

    loved your vid Aaron.

    When I first doubted, one of the first things I had to verify was there a “clear”, and then “OT”. Nope, I couldn’t find any. And yep, I got pissed. LOL

  • outraged

    An article about Scientology on CNN? Just found this on my phone.
    Scientology: What exactly is it? – CNN
    https://apple.news/APq9_fAQXTPi_CoGUJhunig

    • Todd Tomorrow

      “Why is the church so controversial?” He mentions everything but the numerous abusive practices. What a piece of shit this self proclaimed religious scholar is. He could have just walked across the hall and gotten some info or file footage from Anderson Cooper.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      CNN has sold its journalistic soul to the highest bidder. It’s evident throughout its “coverage,” but this is yet more evidence of how very low it has sunk. Sadly, like $cientology, it appears as though it’s too far gone now to save. Adieu CNN. You had your moment but you blew it.

  • More Scientology alliance building with the Christian religious right? More safe-pointing?

    https://twitter.com/Franklin_Graham/status/847641091666886660

    EDITED TO ADD:

    In my opinion this is not a fluke, but is instead part of a consistent, long-term effort. For cumulative threads on Franklin Graham and Greta Van Susteren, see:

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?43567-Scientology-Member-Greta-Van-Susteren-and-Christian-Minister-Franklin-Graham

    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-member-greta-van-susteren-and-christian-minister-franklin-graham.132719/

    /

    • Liberated

      Puke.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Franklin Graham and those two have been thisclose for quite a while. I remember he even got some blowback from some of his followers when he congratulated her on Facebook about her moving to MSNBC. Many were appalled by her being in the CO$ and his endorsement of her but he doesn’t seem to care because they apparently give him money. He’s just another huckster, cloaked in religion, out to make a buck.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Cult or cultist donations work wonders, sadly even within Christendom. Wake up Franklin. This is shameful.

    • anonsparrow

      I wonder what they’re smiling about? Actually they both look a bit frightened..

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        She always looks like that. She got some bad plastic surgery when she made the move from CNN to Fox. Her eye-job was so horrible that she debuted looking like those white actresses in old B&W movies that wore tape to pull their eyelids back to play Asian roles. It never quite “settled” correctly and she has looked like crap ever since.

        • anonsparrow

          Dam. I hear ya. She should be scared. Supporting Miscavige and nowhere to go.

          “Oh was that your forced abortion?” ” I just report the news i don’t really get into it.”

          • anonsparrow

            Same for Monique Yingling.

            • anonsparrow

              Oh I’m sorry that was your family? Gosh, I’m sorry.

            • anonsparrow

              I thought that maybe, just maybe, that when Monique Yingling’s husband passed away.. She might be like.. you know what.. this is stupid. I’m done sticking up for these people..

              But NO.. She soldiered on.. In the name of hell who are you Monique Yingling?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Who knows, maybe she has a thing for COB. Can’t you just see her scribbling “Monique Miscavige” over and over again on her legal pads? Hehe

            • anonsparrow

              I think she’s just greedy but I can definitely see her scribbling that over and over because she’s confused with greed.

            • anonsparrow

              All work and no play.. hehe

            • anonsparrow

              All protests and no lawsuits make Monique Yingling go CRAZYTOWN!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Makes her rich but her nervous tick of blinking adds to her body language as a habitual liar.

            • anonsparrow

              That’s so fucked up though. Ok I’m going to Israel to weigh in on another Scientology lawsuit. Lol. It’s hard to fathom.

            • anonsparrow

              Right now Tony is going “ok please stop saying her name”..

              Just kidding buddy.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Her sister is a psyche. That probably keeps her awake at night. How much $$$ does she have to keep throwing at the CO$ because of that? There is a campaign to get her off of MSNBC. She ruins the whole flow of their line-up.

            • anonsparrow

              Oh the nerve of these people.. πŸ™‚

            • Todd Tomorrow

              She donated money to her wog sister’s political campaign at one time. People say they are close..

    • anonsparrow

      That’s a snapshot of Wall Street. No future.

      • anonsparrow

        Hang on one sec I think I might have a future.

        • anonsparrow

          Nope. Sorry.

          • Snippy_X

            One cool thing about your future – no one can call it, not even you.

            • What if someone called him today and he waited to answer the phone until tomorrow?

            • Snippy_X

              Mostly that doesn’t change much, excluding maybe a rare witch here or there. Still, it gets fuzzy yo. You so know that man.

            • Time can be warped and so can he πŸ™‚

    • There’s another reason for them to suck up to this group. If ever the IRS question their tax exempt status, they will have allies who will present this as an attack on religious freedom, and support them because they fear it is the thin end of a wedge that might be applied to their own concessions.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      When Franklin Graham heartily endorsed Trump, he was officially dead to me.

  • Scientology extracted over $53 million in ‘donations’ from Russia in the past three years.

    “The Church of Scientology could have extracted about 3 billion rubles (over $53 million) in donations made to its Moscow and St. Petersburg branches, Russian media report.”

    “The Russian Izvestia newspaper reported on Friday citing expert sources, that documents seized during the search suggest that in the past three years, the Church of Scientology brought in to the United States about 3 billion rubles in “donations” made in Russia.”

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201703311052146829-scientolgists-russia-53-million/

    /

  • OOkpik
    • Jimmy3

      Aww. Unfortunately, blurry children don’t last very long.

      • OOkpik

        Jimmy! You’re nekkid! Did your shamrock go blurry?

        • Jimmy3

          :(πŸ’š)

  • mrssandoval

    Don’t get mad at me, y’all, but I’ve always been an honors studentβ€”even going to a dedicated school since 4th grade. When you say “honors student”, nerd comes to mind, right?

    Anyways, the only reason I know what that game is is because of a group of nerds in the 6th grade. They’d dress in medieval garb, and say things that no one has uttered since the 16th century. They called me a name that I had to look up, in a dictionary, before the web. I still hate those fools.

    On another subject, I’m shocked that Mr. TO has never been at least nominated for this illustrious award! Fuck an Olympic gold medal for my country, I want that lrh award! Do comments count as writing?

    I literally wrote a short story about my being afflicted with panic disorder and co-occurring depression. It was handed out at a NAMI (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) convention, where my parents donate lots of money. Should I enter it? I mean, their seemingly endless fascination with psychiatry ought to give my story a chance, right?

    • So your saying Tony should enter the writers and illustrators contest? Hmm!…. that would be interesting, but i think you need to write fiction and not facts to do that!

      • mrssandoval

        Bahahahahaaa what about this guy, the one who thinks this is all on the up & up? And why is this awards ceremony fancier than, say, a Pulitzer? A Nobel prize?

  • Newiga
  • Fink Jonas

    “A special workshop” how boring, torturing those creative people. Who want to see LRH wearing fedoras

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Morning Bunker,

    A lot O/T but for those of you following the US political landscape: Michael Flynn has been offered asked for immunity to talk. And you’re all smart enough to know what that means. (Muwahahahaha) After former FBI agent Clint Watts testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee yesterday, I’d recommend a basket of lawyers. πŸ˜€

    Edited: Had that backwards, guess I should coffee first, then Bunker.

  • Vancouverite

    Aaron -(thank you for thinking of ways to get people out. Love you and your wife) I’m thinking that if one is speaking to someone who has attested to clear, one could ask/discuss the abilities gained in DMSMH as a way of waking someone up. It might also help addressing people who haven’t attested. I attested to Clear several times, each time with “full certainty” but every time I read and re-read DMSMH (on various courses) I always had MWH phenomena (gak, hate the jargon) while reading DMSMH – and sometimes I’d even question the Supervisor about the various bits that detailed the supposed gains I was to have had. “Oh WOW! You’re CLEAR! You have PERFECT RECALL of everything that ever happened in your life?????” “but..you still wear glasses, I thought that was psychosomatic?” etc. I’m a careful UTR due to things, but I’m venturing some of these ideas and floating them when I can. I want to ask people, “OH COOL! You’re OT TOO? So can you exteriorize at will?”

  • Gus_Cox

    Hahaha, the clear cog: I made it all up. OT VIII cog: I made it all up.

    Who really made it all up: L. Ron Hubbard.

    What a tool.