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‘We’ve talked to the FBI’ Leah Remini says in first podcast, calling for Scientology raid

 
Now this was a lot of fun. Leah Remini and Mike Rinder dropped the first episode of their new weekly podcast ‘Scientology: Fair Game’ at midnight, and we eagerly devoured it.

Numbered in the grand Scientology tradition as episode zero, for an hour the duo we got to know so well in their three-season A&E series Scientology and the Aftermath picked up pretty much where they left off last year, with Leah expressing exasperation over the things Scientology gets away with and Mike calmly explaining how things work both in Scientology and in law enforcement as far as “fair gaming” Scientology’s perceived enemies.

 

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The show started off with Leah asking Mike to define “Fair Game” and explain how Scientology targets former members and anyone else who dares to speak out publicly about its abuses. Which includes themselves, of course, and their show. Leah jabbed Scientologists like Ed Parkin who have crowed that they got Leah off the air.

“Ed, keep it coming, because the lawsuit will be huge,” Leah says.

As for what they’ve been doing since the series ended, Leah says that they’ve continued working.

“We’ve met with the FBI, we’ve met with police departments. We’re talking to further victims. We’re putting those people in touch with the authorities….We’re all being Fair Gamed, constantly,” she says.

For an example of how Scientology evaded law enforcement in the past, Leah asks Mike about what happened in the Lisa McPherson case. Mike explained how evidence was destroyed, witnesses were rounded up and drilled on what to say, and some were sent out of the country.

And records of everything Scientology does is kept in paper files. Leah stresses this point, that she’s tried to encourage law enforcement to raid Scientology as the FBI did in 1977, because the paper folders contain written evidence of all of Scientology’s abuses.

And we were intrigued to see them get into a more recent example of sending someone away, the case of Danny Masterson’s missing auditor, Angie LaClaire. Mike surmised the same thing we have, that Angie is probably cooling her heels on Scientology’s private cruise ship, the Freewinds, a place where she’s beyond the reach of American law enforcement agencies, and where we have some actual evidence that Masterson witnesses have been sent.

Some other highlights:

Leah says Danny Masterson was an asshole and mistreated his Scientology handlers.

Mike says that Masterson might decide to turn on Scientology and tell the truth.

Leah says she’s perpetually in shock by what Scientology continues to get away with, citing the recent news that three Scientology churches had received PPP loans from the Small Business Administration. (And so did two Narconon rehabs, four Scientology schools, and the Citizens Commission on Human Rights.)

So what can people do? Mike recommends writing Congress, but they’ve also set up a new website which is in the beginning stages: fairgamepodcast.com

So wow, this is a great new format for these two. Not only can they go into Scientology abuses past and present, but Leah can be herself and let a few f-words fly. We’re digging it.

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Bonus items from our tipsters

Saint Hill has its first graduation since March!

 

 
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Source Code

“All sorts of disastrous things will occur If you become an expert Dianetic auditor. Then we’re all in trouble because we will start curing everything, you know, and knocking out psychosis and neurosis and doing all those poor doctors out of their jobs. And you don’t want to do any doctors out of their jobs. But I say this in all sincerity, this leads you in to the fact that you can heal, and that is not your profession. You’re trying to clear people, and these processes will heal people, even badly run. They’ll cure migraine headaches and arthritis and lumbosis and medicosis and all kinds of wild illnesses. But it doesn’t necessarily follow that it’s uniform. In other words, you don’t get one for one for one, you see, for the excellent reason that the whole reactive mind is the reason for very severe illnesses. It’s the whole mind. And you can key out parts of it and make somebody quite well, you see. You can key out some very specific illness like that and have it go away but don’t be too surprised if it comes back. So therefore, ‘cure’ is not well used. It’s ill-advised as a word.” — L. Ron Hubbard, July 21, 1966

 
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Overheard in the FreeZone

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“He is part LRH-Tech genius in some ways but he has also a lot of Justin Craig the Gangbanger, Ex-Con, and thug still in him. I can grant beingness to all of that, we are all works in progress, and he admits he has not regained all of the wisdom or charisma or writing ability that LRH had. He may be the same being, he may not, but his universe and his personality is not at all the same. ”

 
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Random Howdy

“He’s found the right balance between non-sequitur sesquipedalian punster and heartfelt commenting.”

 
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Full Court Press: What we’re watching at the Underground Bunker

Criminal prosecutions:
Danny Masterson charged for raping three women: Arraignment scheduled for September 18.
Jay Spina, Medicare fraud: Sentencing is set for August 27 in White Plains, NY
Hanan and Rizza Islam and other family members, Medi-Cal fraud: Next pretrial conference set for Jan 12 in Los Angeles

Civil litigation:
Luis and Rocio Garcia v. Scientology: Oral arguments set for August 30 at the Eleventh Circuit
Valerie Haney v. Scientology: Forced to ‘religious arbitration.’ Hearing on motion for reconsideration set for August 11
Chrissie Bixler et al. v. Scientology and Danny Masterson: Sept 4 (CSI/RTC demurrer against Riales, Masterson demurrer), Oct 7-19 (motions to compel arbitration)
Jane Doe v. Scientology (in Miami): Jane Doe dismissed the lawsuit on May 15 after the Clearwater Police dropped their criminal investigation of her allegations.
Matt and Kathy Feschbach bankruptcy appeal: Oral arguments were heard on March 11 in Jacksonville
Brian Statler Sr v. City of Inglewood: Amended complaint filed, trial set for Nov 9, 2021

 
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Scientology’s celebrities, ‘Ideal Orgs,’ and more!

[The Big Three: Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Kirstie Alley]

We’ve been building landing pages about David Miscavige’s favorite playthings, including celebrities and ‘Ideal Orgs,’ and we’re hoping you’ll join in and help us gather as much information as we can about them. Head on over and help us with links and photos and comments.

Scientology’s celebrities, from A to Z! Find your favorite Hubbardite celeb at this index page — or suggest someone to add to the list!

Scientology’s ‘Ideal Orgs,’ from one end of the planet to the other! Help us build up pages about each these worldwide locations!

Scientology’s sneaky front groups, spreading the good news about L. Ron Hubbard while pretending to benefit society!

Scientology Lit: Books reviewed or excerpted in our weekly series. How many have you read?

 
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THE WHOLE TRACK

[ONE year ago] Evidence that Scientology is adopting an anti-vaxx strategy, and with political aspirations
[TWO years ago] From Sands Hall’s excellent ‘Flunk. Start.’ — the paradox of ‘Keeping Scientology Working’
[THREE years ago] As Leah Remini’s second season approaches, more Scientology survivors are opening up
[FOUR years ago] Scientology goes shopping for a new top cop in L.A., and a new video from Chris Shelton!
[FIVE years ago] Scientology’s speechwriter, the word of God, and a Hubbard bio that will never see the light of day
[SIX years ago] Surviving Scientology podcast: Former treasury employee Mat Pesch spills the beans
[SEVEN years ago] Neil Gaiman’s Nephew Fights for Scientology Marriage Rights in the UK
[EIGHT years ago] Why Do Scientologists Accept the Xenu Story?
[NINE years ago] Jamie DeWolf, L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson, Spins a Spine-Chilling Performance About His DNA

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley (1952-2019) did not see his daughter Stephanie in his final 5,667 days.
Valerie Haney has not seen her mother Lynne in 2,005 days.
Katrina Reyes has not seen her mother Yelena in 2,509 days
Sylvia Wagner DeWall has not seen her brother Randy in 2,029 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his grandson Leo in 1,049 days.
Geoff Levin has not seen his son Collin and daughter Savannah in 940 days.
Christie Collbran has not seen her mother Liz King in 4,247 days.
Clarissa Adams has not seen her parents Walter and Irmin Huber in 2,115 days.
Carol Nyburg has not seen her daughter Nancy in 2,889 days.
Jamie Sorrentini Lugli has not seen her father Irving in 3,693 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 3,009 days.
Dylan Gill has not seen his father Russell in 11,575 days.
Melissa Paris has not seen her father Jean-Francois in 7,494 days.
Valeska Paris has not seen her brother Raphael in 3,662 days.
Mirriam Francis has not seen her brother Ben in 3,243 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 3,504 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 2,542 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy and daughter Jessica in 2,255 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 1,780 days.
Charley Updegrove has not seen his son Toby in 1,310 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 5,870 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 3,010 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 3,330 days.
Roger Weller has not seen his daughter Alyssa in 8,185 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 3,304 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 1,660 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin and daughter Taryn in 5,963 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 2,069 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis in 2,471 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 2,343 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 1,926 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike and daughter Emily in 2,421 days.
Mary Jane Barry has not seen her daughter Samantha in 2,675 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 13,784 days.

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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 21, 2020 at 06:00

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