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Florida man sues medical sleep testing company after its dapper CEO forced Scientology on him

Vick_Tipnes

[Blackstone Medical Services CEO Vick Tipnes]

Another lawsuit against an employer accused of forcing Scientology on an employee was filed this week, this time involving a Florida man who alleges that the CEO of a Tampa medical company harassed him and ultimately fired him because he wouldn’t subject himself to Scientology courses.

We’ve seen this kind of thing numerous times in recent years, including a dentist in Oregon, a chiropractor in Florida, and a plastics company in Pasadena. This time, the employer is a man named Vick Tipnes who maintains a somewhat eye-opening page about himself at his company’s website. Tipnes writes that he was born in London but moved to Florida as a child, and then worked as a car salesman as he looked for business opportunities.

In 2012, he founded Blackstone Medical Services, which tests patients and sells equipment for sleep apnea. Since then, he’s been celebrated by local publications as a successful entrepreneur, and writes about his success with blog items at the LinkedIn website, posts inspirational photos of himself to his Instagram account, and appears to be a fan of Scientology entrepreneur Grant Cardone.

 
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In June 2014, Hillsborough County resident David Bunting went to work at Blackstone Medical as a “physician sleep advisor.” By that December, he alleges, Tipnes began bugging him about getting into Scientology.

“Mr. Tipnes was apparently a member of the Scientology cult and wanted to indoctrinate Mr. Bunting into it as well,” writes Bunting’s attorney, Noah Storch. Bunting wasn’t interested, and declined his boss’s suggestion. By February 2015, however, Tipnes was complaining about Bunting’s low “call volume,” but then admitted that what really bothered him was that Bunting hadn’t agreed to start Scientology courses.

Mr. Bunting objected that he already had a religion and was not looking for a new one, and that in any event, he took no major life decisions such as attending a new Church without discussing the matter with his wife, lightly. Enraged, Mr. Tipnes told Mr. Bunting, “this should be your decision, not your wife’s.”

That May, Bunting complained, he was lured to a breakfast with Tipnes where he was assured Scientology wouldn’t be discussed, only to be hit with another hard sell about taking courses.

 
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Over the next two months, Bunting says he was forced to participate in Scientology exercises at his workplace, and then in August was told he had to take a Scientology sales program that he was “contractually bound to do if he wanted to avoid financial penalties.” Bunting objected to the program, which would have had him proselytizing Scientology to customers. Tipnes also wanted Bunting to approach his wife about getting involved in Scientology.

Finally, on September 1, 2015 Bunting was fired because of his objections to Scientology, he alleges. He then complained to the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which gave him a notice of right to sue Blackstone Medical.

Bunting is suing for religious harassment and retaliation, and is requesting a jury trial.

We left messages yesterday for both Bunting’s attorney, Storch, as well as for Vick Tipnes. We’ll let you know what we hear back from them.

 
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Here’s the complaint…

Bunting v. Blackstone Medical Services: Complaint

 
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  • Alice Graves

    Wow – is that pregnancy quote for real or did someone shoop that to make him look bad? If it’s real I hope it goes viral so the unsuspecting public knows what a slime bag this guy is. Sheesh!

    • I like to know the origin of that image too. Google can’t find it!

  • Anyone wearing a jacket in such a delicate shade of salmon-pink can’t be a completely covetous creep full of cupidity, surely? It only needs a couple of finishing touches to complete le tout ensemble… (re-starch tutu as a matter of urgency):

    • Observer

      That getup suits him surprisingly well

      • beauty for ashes

        LOL Now he looks like a Joy Villa backup singer. I bet they would share clothes!

        • thetastic

          But Joy doesn’t wear clothes!

          • beauty for ashes

            You’re right except tutus, sculptures, headdresses, childrens costumes, and industrial materials.

    • Rasha

      Oh! Look at the pig in the tutu! ….And Snortimer is there, too!!! YAY!!!

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        LOL

    • Rodger Dodger

      let the shoopage commence:

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I have the sadz. I couldn’t wait to see Joy Villa trainwreck snowfence underwear peeking out.

      • Oh, I’m sure it’s in there, somewhere 😉

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      I think the winter and summer colours clash, but the tie and ruffles are okay. Hey, sometimes I get my man? for all seasons confused. I question ‘man’ as I don’t see any male who needs to use strong arm tactics or excessive mental pressure to convert others for the purpose of dominating the upcoming ‘clear planet’ as a man of strength. Maybe liberty and compassion are the omitted ingredients which have been substituted via indoctrination with narcissistic traits. Yet again, maybe it is true, scientology is a good fertilizer for bad seeds such as malignant maniacal megalomania.

      • I don’t think Vick’s exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer: how else to account for his abysmal lack of sartorial—and general—judgement? Now you’ve got me wondering if I shouldn’t have given him a pair of tourmaline earrings to balance out all that pink… 😉

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          shoop Aug 5 re re re revised ? sure why not it is consistent with KSW, errrrr fixing the unfixable.. lol

  • JaxNGold

    Is he seriously posing next to his car with a cigar? And that pregnancy quote — how crass. This guy thinks he’s something else. The first thing I thought of when I saw the pics was Nat’s shoop of Cardone and Mathers that read “douche level: lethal”. LOL.

    • Joe

      Yeah, when you have multiple photo shoots of yourself that include you sitting on a luxury car and quoting YOURSELF, that’s an entirely new level of douchebaggery.

    • FredEX2

      Yeah, really Jax. Totally crass.

      And besides, if he’s pregnant he shouldn’t be smoking anything, especially a cigar.

  • nottrue
  • Vick’s latest venture is Action Figures of himself, which future entrepreneurs can gaze upon in order to motivate themselves.

    • Princess Squishy

      Usually those companies that promise to make a figurine look like you don’t create a very good likeness, but this one nailed it.

      • beauty for ashes

        Amazing, he even has the same ill fitting clothes! And he has KSW down~ speak no evil ( unless in a KR) see no evil( no entheta for you!) hear no evil (don’t listen to critics)!

    • thetastic

      Love the red jacket!

      • It’s traditional.

        His official job title is ‘Primate portable fund collection facilitator and client interface’. He usually works with an organ-grinder.

  • Vaquera

    Vick wears an obnoxious watch and his Porsche’s license plate says Theta 8.
    https://instagram.com/p/BHCvNwjgJzr/

    • Vaquera

      Screen shots for those who might have problems viewing the video.

      • Rasha

        HAHA! NO, That’s fine, Boots! I’m good without hav– oh…oh, okay… no, that’s fine….

        ;P

      • Rasha

        The problems I have watching any videos of this guy have nothing to do the the computer. ^_^ Just sayin’.

      • Observer

        Theta 8 my money

        • Qbird

          ISWYDT

          • Kestrel

            Thank you. I totally missed it.

      • beauty for ashes

        That watch is just gross. I already lived through swatches, I don’t need this.

      • George Layton

        I wanted a watch like that when I was 8 too.

      • FredEX2

        Vaquera, you are so awesomely stealthy. 😎

        Oh wait! I actually thought you went on your lunch break ( time on watch ) and located his Porsche & got a pic of his plate.

        • Vaquera

          Bless your heart. 🙂

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I notice that he was “Vic” (without the “K”) when he was arrested in 2005 for “patient brokering”. It appears that he has used several aliases over the years. Hmm…
    (refresh)

    • Liberated

      This character is perfect, he is exactly the kind of person that fits right in……….self-serving, smug and will do or say anything to exploit those around him for his and the cult’s own selfish end.
      The end always justifies the means in the CO$ !

    • thetastic

      Holy shit. What a shyster.

    • beauty for ashes

      I thought his name sounded like an Americanized one. I guess he is trying to hide more than his heritage.

    • aquaclara

      That’s a lot of names for not all that many years. Hmmmm.

  • Mark Allen Shreck

    OT, and not sure if discussed before – I skipped over this one a few days/weeks ago, but went back and read it today. Either all Exes get the same playbook (like all who encounter UFOs), or something is amiss: <<<heavy sarcasm*
    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/scientology-in-taiwan/493493/

    *for clarity 😉

  • Qbird

    Much success & ML to you too, Vick!

    • Missionary Kid

      Somehow, that’s a mixed message. I’d assume that what he wants is what the finger tells him she wants to do to him. 😛

      Yes, I know, that’s a twisted interpretation.

      • Kestrel

        Nice try, though.

    • beauty for ashes

      You win the internetz! 🙂

  • sizzle8

    The last thing this creep is after is spiritual freedom.
    He just found a network of ‘marks’ and is working the room.
    Ingratiating himself by FSMing, getting those kickbacks is all part of the scam.
    His obsession with being admired shows a hell hole where a soul should be.

  • So how does this scam work?

    Presumably, an employee takes ‘training courses’ which are billed as a kind of professional development but are actually Scientology. Their Scientologist employer hopes that the indoctrination will take so that, eventually, they will start paying for their own courses, become believers, and be fleeced like all the others.

    If they don’t, they will be dismissed on a pretext in any case (so the chap in this case had nothing to lose by going to law at an earlier stage) and be replace by a new prospect.

    This should be a red flag for Scientologists. It shows that they can’t recruit people in the old-fashioned way – they now have to resort to subterfuge – and it’s ‘out-exchange’. People get their basic courses for nothing (which, according to Scientology’s own doctrine, is something that corrupts both parties).

    I wonder how many people actually become practising Scientologists in their own right as a result of this kind of manipulation – and how many are going through the motions to keep a job that they can’t afford to lose. This kind of dispute might be the tip of a nasty iceberg.

    • Rodger Dodger

      i’m assuming the employer is a FSM, therefore able to collect their 10% on every employee that got hooked

      • That makes sense. The rest are ruthlessly discarded. Only a very few must go to law. How many others are forced to give over a significant part of their wages just to keep their jobs?

        Still, some people are conned into doing basic courses and Scientology isn’t getting paid for that.

        (Edited because I originally missed the point)

        • sizzle8

          10% of services that they do at any org – not at the employer’s place.

          They’ll also ‘lend’ the employee $ and charge him interest.

      • Mark Allen Shreck

        what an awkward situation…to be able to hold their continued employment in return for continued participation. Heck I have enough trouble when my boss reminds me of the memos on the correct TPS cover sheet to use…

        • Science Doc

          I need you to come in on Saturday…

          • beauty for ashes

            Yeaah… just go ahead and do thaaat. **slurps coffee**

    • Suzy

      When I was much younger and thought I was deserving of abuse, I would have gone along with much monkey business to keep my job. There must be so many Scientology company employees out there who are feeling trapped right now.

      • That’s what I’m wondering. Having an employer like Vic combined with Scientology’s doctrine of ‘blame the victim’ can’t do much for you self-esteem, which might lead some people to put up with outrageous treatment.

        I have seen good people trapped in an very similar situation by an employer who turned out to be a very nasty piece of work indeed. If you add Scientology into the mix anything could be happening.

    • beauty for ashes

      They would also be a source of income once they started paying for their own courses, because of the referral commission, as I understand it. 30%?

      • Scientology only makes any sense at all if you follow the money. Yes. That’s surely the motivation for this kind of behaviour. I hope the courts will make Vic think twice in future.

        • sashiebgood

          I guarantee you that Vick does not have the insight to see that he’s built his own pyre on this one. he will claim religious persecution if he can get someone else to foot the legal bills, if not, he will claim bankruptcy and attempt to disappear in the wind with a new name. I truly hope Mr Bunting will win this suit, but I have serious doubts about his ability to collect should he win. this slimy bastard will pull every trick in the book.

          • The IAS (nominally Scientology’s legal defence fund) wil abandon Vick. If his business is truly profiable and resasonably well resourced, he will delay, and hope the problem goes away. If it comes to trial (especially before a jury) he will settle and try for a gagging clause so that he can continue to run the scam afterwards.

            If he’s truly posing, and the business is unsteady, he my well fold it an try to hide the assets until he can start again, at something else.

            Either way, I hope the complainant is sufficiently angry &/or principled to decline a settlement, put the case before a jury and establish case law in a federal court that can help others in a similar situation.

      • Simi Valley

        Where did you get 30%? Back in the day it was 10% to 15%, depending on whether the sucker bought training or auditing.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Back in the late 90’s I was working for Sutter Health, a very large and supposedly not-for-profit California hospitals and medical services organization. Somehow, some clown with a new take on a very thinly disguised EST-like encounter group scam got top level management to chump big-time for what amounted to a weekend-long mass confessional, where you and your fellow co-workers were encouraged to divulge your innermost secrets as some sort of team-building, staff training exercise that lasted 8 hours or more on each of two consecutive days.

      Tuition was paid for by Sutter and everyone at my Sutter hospital workplace was leaned on heavily to attend one of these free weekend sessions. Having successfully escaped cult indoctrination before, I could smell the BS a mile off and politely declined attending every single time the subject was brought up, which ended up being a lot! Many of my more submissive and less informed colleagues were not so lucky.

      As the clubbed baby seals arrived back to work on Monday after their “Art of Living” weekend-long free seminar, the mood was initially one of dizzied euphoria as everyone gushed about how good it felt to finally be honest with each other about who they were (e.g., closeted gays, wife beaters, adulterers, petty thieves, drugs users) and what they’d done that was burdening their conscience (e.g., showed up at work high and/or drunk; padded their time cards; had sex with fellow employees on company time in vacant exam rooms).

      But, just as you might have anticipated, all the happy talk quickly vanished and folks who thought that “what’s said in the group, stays in the group” found out how very wrong they were to believe that one. Rumors about what he did to her, and who’d been thieving all the really good narcs from the nursing station, spread through the hospital like wildfire.

      That “Art of Living” period of group think-enforced public confession didn’t last long, but boy howdy, did the repercussions from it live on. I was just glad that it never became an ‘on company time’ mandatory staff training thing or it would have been impossible to avoid attending.

      Once a cult member, never again a cult member!

      • If it’s scary how these manipulative groups can captivate people, it’s scarier still to see it imposed on people – and the kinds of consequences that you describe.

        It must have been kind of satisfying, after the storm had past to have been immune to the whole thing. Well done for standing firm.

        I wonder if there were any consequences for the managers who made such an obvious and disastrous error of judgement.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Thanks. Nothing like being an ex-cultist to give you the OaTy perceptual skills needed to spot mind control BS at a 1000 yds.!

          The clown who was running those “Art of Living” seminars didn’t have his contract renewed and I think he abandoned that scam and moved on to something new. To my knowledge, no heads rolled in upper management.

  • FredEX2

    ~A fun tutorial below from Vic Tipnes on how to be more able. Evidently it’s all about the ability to really ‘observe’…ummmmm OK then. Thank you Vic. Now I can ‘really’ observe things for what they are and not what I want them to be…I really wanted you to be ethical and respectful and tolerant of others who may have different beliefs than you. But after taking a closer look…as you suggest…that’s really not the case, hmmm?

    I must have the Super Powers y’all talk about Mr. Tipnes! ~And I feel a little less stoo-pid now after watching your video and observing things as they really are, like you suggest….like I’ve ‘really’ observed that when Scientologists claim to be ethical, respecting and tolerant of others differences in opinion…or religions….that’s really not the truth either….is it?

    http://youtu.be/Qw32rPUjg1A

    • Qbird

      Scientology is the syrup poured onto this shit. Con-front reality! observe

      Not gonna watch any more of this guy’s shtick.

      http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3209/9882/original.gif

      • FredEX2

        Awwww c’mon Qbird. It’s fun to watch him talk just to count how many times he says ‘like’

        …like really, like ya know…

        …sorry… I’m hungry and need a Snickers…

        • Qbird

          there is a finger for each ‘like’, Fred! XD

          • FredEX2

            LOL ! That’s about right. 😄

    • madame duran

      Seeing things “as they really are” doesn’t mesh with the cult’s mantra of “what’s true for you is true”. The former suggests that there’s an objective reality/truth that exists independently of one’s subjective opinion or perspective. This ability to swing from one position to a completely opposite one is the kind of deception Scientology uses to “bait-n-switch” people. Say one thing, mean something else. Go from “freedom through self-determinism” to trapped slave of inflexible Hubbard policy/tech.

      “Pouring syrup on shit don’t make it pancakes” is an ‘old’ saying? I thought it was the idea of putting lipstick on a pig (i.e. trying to beautify the exterior of something doesn’t change its essence). Oh, the eloquence this guy has. As crude as his expression may be, he certainly does have a point. I can think of many examples where this logic can be applied.
      “Putting on a ministerial collar doesn’t make you a religious minister”
      “Dressing up empty church buildings doesn’t mean you have membership growth”
      “Spewing a lot of words and dishing out a bunch of quotes doesn’t make you smart”
      “Calling yourself ‘Mankind’s Best Friend’ doesn’t mean that everyone likes you”
      I could go on but I don’t want to spend the rest of my day on here.

      The more I look at him, the more I’m tempted to call this oily snake “Guido”.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      And here he is with more pearls of “Just the tip, Tipnes” wisdom, just ten days after that video, but looking a whole lot scruffier and as if he’s been “really beat up,” just like he’s gratuitously blathering about in it.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeHdX8ZyFHQ

      Like that white porsche of his, one suspects that Vic may have been driven hard and put away wet one too many times in the intervening time between those two vids being made 😉

  • PTS

    Vick, all you need now is a gorgeous blonde to boost your image.
    There you go, you great big hunk…fixed.

    • flyonthewall
      • beauty for ashes

        OMG ~those children are still dressed like children! I remember that!

    • Qbird

      hahahaha!

    • Kestrel

      No way he lets her drive.

      • Observer

        I bet she can’t even see over her dashboard irl unless she’s sitting in a booster seat.

        • madame duran

          I didn’t take that as a joke but rather as a statement of fact.

          • Observer

            It was intended as such.

    • Allie

      Where’s the Ray-bans? Don’t all “cool” dudes wear Ray-bans?

    • Draco

      Made me LOL 😀

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Ha ha ha, I just knew it was going to be Queen of the Valley before I fully opened the image…good one.

  • $cnmonkeyrob$

    Oooo! Oooo! Can monkey have a go at Vick too, please?F5/Refresh

    • FredEX2

      ^^^^^^^^^^

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thanks, Fred–glad you liked it 🙂

    • beauty for ashes

      Wow that shoop was like, POW! lol
      No wonder he looks like his butt hurts!

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thank you, Beauty–that’s pretty much how it happened 🙂 I’d removed the text (for the second time… it was quicker reloading than clicking undo a bazillion times…) and once the offensive tripe had been re-expunged, the monkey version just popped into my evil little mind!

    • Missionary Kid

      Nailed it.

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thanks, MK 🙂

    • Perfect 🙂

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thank you, Mark 🙂

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      Good job, Monkey! . . . . He is a real turn off.

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thank you K2P2 🙂 I know–and with so many pics going begging today, I thought this in most need of purging of his ridiculous and insensitive banality and replacing with something more appropriate!

    • Spackle Motion

      OK, for a minute there I thought this came from a site called vacuous twat. Nice touch.

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        Thank you Spackle–couldn’t leave initials like that hanging without doing something with them 🙂

  • beauty for ashes

    Can Someone clarify something for me> On women’s jeans the zipper is on the right side, isn’t on the left for men’s? cause those acid wash jeans look real suspicious to me. Of course they could also be *jeggings* ~ tight cotton/ spandex leggings printed to look like jeans. Here they are modeled by exquisitely long legged Conan O’Brian . F5

    • George Layton

      Maybe they are painted on.

    • April

      Oh, my.

    • Spackle Motion

      That is a frightening picture. make it stop……

  • aquaclara

    According to the filing, Bunting apparently “failed to demonstrate proper enthusiasm in his new, unwanted role as prophet of Scientological precepts and principles.”

    Go, Bunting, Go! Wishing you luck with your case, and uhm, here. You’ll find that we have quite the proper enthusiasm for anti-cult, anti-WISE precepts and principles., and would love to hear how you survived the onslaught of pressure from Vick and company.

    It had to be a miserable working environment. I see on the service completions list that Jiten Master of this Blackstone company has been an avid Scientologist and WISE member for many years, pushing his dental marketing stuff via a bunch of different companies. (Google says….) Standard Solutions, Inc. 2963 Gulf-to-Bay Blvd. in Clearwater, Golden Valley Development Co. 611 S. Fort Harrison Ave, a dental office listing on Eastland Blvd in Clearwater, and even a listing in the UK.

    There is nothing so relentless as a Scientologist with a target in sight.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      In a subsequent statement, Bunting clarified his principled points of concerns in being coerced by his employer to pander for $cn services, “Of all the products that our medical supply company sells, the only one that I could recommend in good faith in association with Scientology are our douche nozzles *holds up clear plastic bag containing ten of said item*, so I’m not completely sure if I was fired for refusing to be dishonest or for being TOO honest”

  • Commodore H. McCringleberry

    “Its like doing your own brain surgery. One day the light come FUCK up snickers bar. Everyone assumes GIGGLESHIT its all rainbow brownie fun and sea green games bathroom stall. But nobody starfish FUR has the balls raining from to the CLOUDS do it like BLOOD!!!! themselves.” -Vick Tepnes

    • FredEX2

      Ummmm. Hold on. Let me get my Cheerio’s decoder ring and see if I can decipher that word salad.

    • beauty for ashes

      Mad libs Vick Tipnes quote generator game!

  • nottrue

    He looks Gay to me….Of course there is nothing wrong with that

    • if he is… he is an insult to the community!

    • Draco

      That thought occurred to me as well. And if he is, he has to work extra hard to stay in CoS’s good books. Because in THAT world, there is everything wrong with that.

    • ‘Looks gay’ doesn’t mean anything in 2016. In fact the idea that straight and gay people somehow dress differently went out of style in the late 80s and early 90s. Everyone dresses however tf they want now.

      • Juicer77

        I am wearing a baseball shirt and baggy capris today. Nice and comfy 😉

        • I am wearing a plain red shirt and dark blue jeans.

    • Graham

      Nothing wrong with that, unless you are a Scientologist, in which case being gay is regarded as 1.1 on the Tone Scale. If so at least you can take consolation from the fact that you are WAY above Slappy Miscavige who’s permanently down at minus 8 [hiding] with only ‘being objects’. ‘being nothing’, and ‘can’t hide’ between him and Total Failure.

    • flyonthewall

      he is metrosexual

    • Robert Eckert

      Naw, to me he looks like a hetero of a particular kind, who would have worn gold chains around the neck in a slightly earlier decade.

  • Missionary Kid

    This is not a commercial, but a plug for my favorite fish taco chain that has just opened in the Tampa Bay area: Rubio’s.
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/retail/rubios-coastal-grill-californias-famous-fish-taco-chain-is-coming-to-tampa/2288321
    I hope you enjoy it like I do. They have Taco Tuesdays, where the tacos are cheap. I love their bowls and salads, too, that are made with chicken, steak, and shrimp and veggies.

    • It’s against the Bunker Law to advertise delicious food – it’s called Undue Influence!

      • Missionary Kid

        If ya don’t like the food, say so.

    • chukicita

      Thanks for the heads up! They look delicious.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’ve met with Science Doc several times to eat at a Rubio’s.

    • Juicer77

      Aaargh. How I miss good Mexican food here in the UK. Anyone who goes there please send pics. And don’t gloat or I will end you. 😉

      • Missionary Kid

        When I was in Europe, nearly 40 years ago, I made some Mexican dishes. I didn’t know where to get the corn meal for the corn tortillas, so I made flour ones. I did it both in Holland and in Sweden. To them, it was exotic food.

        When I was in Spain, I loved the food, but a tortilla in Spain is totally different than a tortilla in Mexico, and I didn’t see any Mexican restaurants there.

  • beauty for ashes

    Okay I swear last joke on this subject. I’ve had this song in my head ever since reading this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaRd4d8hOY

    • Liberated

      Thanks for that. Now I’m happy.

      • beauty for ashes

        *air kisses* MWAH! MWAH! MWAH! 🙂

    • Kim O’Brien

      LOL ..i love that i am going to have this playing in my head for the rest of the day 🙂 …

  • TinyTyrant

    What a guy! The perfect mixture of success and hair products! Sometimes, the surface has to be sprinkled with glitter because there is nothing underneath. His name appears to be another term for “tool”.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I wonder if he was an “entrepreneur” on daddy’s dime?
    (refresh)

  • FredEX2

    Isn’t firing someone because they refuse the Boss’s religious overtures and his pressure to participate in his beliefs…a form of prejudice and workplace harassment similar to when someone refuses the Boss’s sexual overtures and the pressure to participate with him,…and then firing the employee who refuses his advances?

    • Liberated

      I agree.

    • Mrs. V.

      Yes it is.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Indeed it is. Proving it in a court of law, however, is another thing entirely ;(

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    I have only time for two words on today’s post:
    1. Douche
    2. Nozzle

  • $cnmonkeyrob$

    Deary, deary me… Vick really lines himself up for this kind of thing…… fish, meet barrel…F5/Refresh

    • Graham

      It does look suspiciously like a Porsche Cayman, the roofline of which is quite distinctive- just at the place we can’t see because he’s standing in front of it. [Actually many petrol heads would say the Cayman’s a better car than the 911, but if you’re a poseur the much more expensive 911 shows you’ve ‘arrived’]

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        (*sotto voce* It is, in fact, a 911 [monkey got it wrong, too]–Vaquera posted pics of the license plate downthread… damn! {and yes, the Cayman is a better handling car [so I’ve been told] than the 911, but Porsche underpowered the engine on purpose so it wouldn’t be faster…})[ETA]

    • chukicita

      Or so you don’t see the rental plates.

    • Qbird

      Does an expensive car & a fine cigar make your dick bigger?

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        … or just make him look like a bigger dick?

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Sleep Apnea is a common disorder in which breathing may stop and resume several times in the night.
    It can lead to high blood pressure and chronic tiredness.
    $cientology is an uncommon disorder in which thinking may stop and rarely resumes.
    It can lead to high blood pressure, bankruptcy, divorce and chronic tiredness.

    Breaking News 08/05/2016
    Reuters Budapest

    Papal Shower Case – Suspect Detained
    with our religious correspondents Krishna Murphy and Swami Anand Bananas

    A Portuguese citizen, Joao Bacalhau, has been held for questioning in Budapest
    in the matter of pig manure been thrown at the Punching Pontiff and his body-guards.

    This matter which shocked all 47 million Hungarian $cientologists made headlines
    worldwide. The August and Most High Leader had previously been assaulted with
    violin music and spoon-bending.

    “Pork and clams ( Porco A Alentejana) is a traditional Portuguese dish.
    When the detectives understood this, the case was on it’s way to being solved,”
    said Balint Balassi, spokesperson for the Nemzeti Nyomozo Iroda – the National
    Security Organisation.

    Mr. Salt Cod protested his innocence. He says he was on a pilgrimage to Fatima
    and has witnesses.

    And in other news, there is now a type of beans for whales.
    With stats like these, they will need ’em.

  • Look – he has his own website and all vicks.com

    • madame duran

      Vicks VAPIDRub, more like it. Shoop away.

  • Hamtaro

    The only way that Vick Tipnes and Grant Cardone could ever be of any benefit to society is if they made a gay porno together. It would feature lots of working out together, having hot sex on the trunks of fast cars, etc.
    Their porn names would be “Dick JusttheTipnes” and “Grant Hardone.”
    It would be titled “The 10XXX Rule”
    I’m sure Elena would be happy to direct.

    • flyonthewall

      they could be ground into cattle feed. That would help

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        It would help the world… wouldn’t necessarily help the cows much–all grease and no nutrition in the pair of them!

      • daisy

        Talk about your empty calories.

    • Draco

      Just as long as no-one does any ball scratching…

  • Draco

    “There are only 2 types of people – those who help you and those who hurt you, nothing in between.” Wake up, Vicky, there are BILLIONS out there who don’t know you exist – and if they did, they would have no interest in either helping or hurting you. F5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeHdX8ZyFHQ

    • pluvo

      He is parroting Hubbard’s animosities and reflections about social/antisocial personality traits and the ‘data’ from the PTS/SP course.

      • Draco

        Yup – things are only black or white – nothing in between.

    • sashiebgood

      I would have been happier not knowing this guy exists, I hate when Tony’s posts make my misanthropy flare up.

  • If one more person posts that he looks gay, which has happened a lot already, I am going to send you a box of 25,000 rainbow-colored, dick lollipops.

    • flyonthewall
    • $cnmonkeyrob$

      He looks really, really…;)(does monkey still get the box of rainbow dicksicles?)

      • I am climbing in a box and mailing myself to you.

        • $cnmonkeyrob$

          Awesome… FedEx yourself overnight, and we’ll be able to go to Brighton Pride tomorrow 🙂

          • Holy shit how awesome would that be.

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              It would be a good laugh–it’s a very… vibrant and energetic (shall we say) event, certainly 🙂

          • Juicer77

            (Psst… will we need to send out a search party afterward? 🙂

            • Draco

              Just follow the rainbow coloured dick lollipop trail – all 25,000 of them!

            • Juicer77

              LOL

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              (Thanks, Juicer–monkey will send a BunkerSignal if assistance is required 🙂 )

    • Snippy_X

      ok.

    • randomity

      Hey Derek, how did you happen to see that Mappin thing yesterday? I went to facebook and couldn’t see anything. Do you need to be a friend of Mappin or something? By the way, for me that was the biggest scientology news of the week, thanks.

      • Here is the link. His entire Facebook is public for anyone to comment from what I can see. I definitely don’t advocate for everyone here that is active in comments or lurking to post thousands of comments with links to and pictures of the “Call Me” poster. Definitely not, that would be potentially a bit rude.

        https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle/posts/10153583698246277

        • salin

          Whoah. I think I posted about his cray-cray post, but I don’t think there were so many responses. It is as if they are writing from a different dimension. Well, in a sense I guess that is true. Thanks for posting the link, it was worth reading others responding to it with there ‘superior’ Homo Novi perspectives.

    • chukicita

      Covered in glitter.

    • Lucille Austero

      We would do well to keep in mind that douchebaggery is not a gender specific trait 👍👬👫👭

      ETA: 🌈

      • daisy

        I think Becky with the good hair above demonstrates you statement perfectly.( yes daisy can throw in a pop culture reference now and then despite being born in the dark ages )

    • daisy

      They come in colours !!

    • Juicer77

      I hope you didn’t take my “fancy” comments as anything other than directed at his fondness for expensive toys.

    • George Layton

      Gay? Hell, he doesn’t even look light-hearted.

    • sashiebgood

      he does not look gay to me, he looks like a self absorbed asshole who probably watches rape porn.

  • Lucille Austero

    Perhaps this Tipnes douchebag might consider parting with some of that Grant Cardone 10x money to purchase the professional services of a copy editor. What a massive tool.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Here is a video of the “scene of the crime” – Blackstone Medical Services…

    https://www.facebook.com/1beckyfarias/videos/vb.1385941946/10210136870443350/?type=2&theater

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Looks like some kind of boiler room operation. Typical for scientology.

    • FredEX2

      Appears to be operated more like a hard sale call center. And it also appears that Vic Tipnes changes his company name and moves around town more than most businesses. A ‘red flag’ that not all is as it seems?

      Good thing it’s not just us and OSA and media that read this website and the comments every day. Plenty of info here to pique the interest of certain ‘other people’ 😎 IMHO ~Hope his books aren’t cooked or his equipment isn’t outdated and ineffective or that Dr.s and patients aren’t being bamboozled into getting something they don’t need or doesn’t really work…or Insurance Companies aren’t being charged for unnecessary testing or ummmm… ~something…like religious prejudice and harassment at the workplace isn’t going on there. That would just be wrong.

  • chukicita

    The Cardone University/Trump University/VickTipnes business model has to sell you the idea that the guy who is talking to you on that video from the cockpit of his expensive car while driving through a tony real estate development is a real-life Wall Street Wolfing EntreprenOOer. You’re supposed to be thrilled to ride along.

    He might toss in a glimpse of his trophy wife, maybe poolside with a cocktail. Enjoying the finer things in life.
    And after a few platitudes, perhaps with a vulgarity-using twist on an old sales teething biscuit from Les Dane, you’re sold a dream.

    If you do everything I say, you can be rich and all your problems will disappear. Don’t worry about the people you’re ripping off because they’re just in your way.

    PROTIP: If you are making lots of money and don’t want to have to change your name every five years, would like to stay out of jail and sleep nights, then YOU DON’T HAVE TIME TO BE MAKING STUPID VIDEOS AND TAKING HEADSHOTS WITH CIGARS AND EXPENSIVE PROPS THAT MAKE YOU LOOK RICH.

    You don’t have time to rent the luxury car. To stamp “47x” on everything you sell. To develop a personality-based brand based on being a colossal penis. THAT IS A FULL TIME JOB IN ITSELF.

    So if you’re doing that – and Cardone alone has hundreds of “products” for sale – what else are you doing that actually makes the money you are appearing to enjoy? That ish takes significant time to manage and nurture.

    • Ben Franklin

      Fraudsters always want to appear wealthy, rich, and successful to build initial trust with their victims.

  • Observer

    First John Goodwin, now Tom Cruise’s sister. Is Facebook the newest FSM?

    F5

    • daisy

      Don*t know , don*t wish to.

  • Meme the Cat… is about to Ferk with Vick! – F5

    • Juicer77

      GET HIM, MEME!!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Why so low on the tone scale, Vick? A bad week? Oh yeah, that must have been because you were SUED!
    He sounds like a low rent Cardone, even trying to affect his accent and dropping an s-bomb every other minute. Gag!
    (refresh)

    https://www.facebook.com/TipnesVick/videos/276593276051539/

    • madame duran

      Why does he speak in metaphors so often? Could it be that he can’t give examples based on ACTUAL BUSINESS SCENARIOS due to lack of experience? I guess he’s too busy clearing his lane of rocks, beer bottles and boulders.

      • Graham

        Has this guy ever actually driven a car? Here in the UK we’re cursed with too many pot-holes in the road but I’ve never come across any roads so littered with rocks, bottles and other sundry debris that I’ve had to get out of the car and do a clear-up job before I could proceed. What a really pathetic attempt at a metaphor.

    • Observer

      “I personally” as opposed to “I by proxy”?

      • beauty for ashes

        *spits food everywhere* rapier sharp wit Madame!

    • FFS he took two minutes to say “follow the course.”

  • Snippy_X
  • DoveAlexa

    He seems like the kind of guy to have a rip off Andy Warhol pop-art portrait, then insist it’s genuine even though Warhol died in ’87.

  • nottrue

    • Graham

      Bugger! Just been on the web-site and tickets all sold out. Not prepared to pay 7x the face value to some poxy ticket re-seller. Grrr!

      • There was a tiny London cinema which showed it first, some weeks ago, one night only. Tickets were £12. I was going to go, but couldn’t afford the coach fare so close to another trip to the capital. Wish I had, now.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I’m jumpni’ on the bandwagon. Scientology, Insanity and Clearly not a Religion, will start filming this weekend. I’ve already called Marty and he’s in.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • chukicita

      He looks like he’s pooping a Porsche.

      • Juicer77

        XD

      • Graham

        Better than crapping a Caddy, shitting a Silverado, defecating a Delorean, dumping a Dodge or excreting an Edsel I suppose 😉

        • Juicer77

          So poetic! LOL

          • Graham

            I did wonder if I’d gone too far with the Edsel. And frankly I’m not sure what a Silverado is; I got that one off some petrol-head list site. I’m guessing it’s something like Marge Simpson’s Canyonero.

            • Juicer77

              Pretty close.

      • Royce Harlow

        Yes. This picture is highly unfortunate.

      • Way worse than a party pooper.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Chucky, OT VickTPines has to wear 1990’s Mom jeans because he has lady hips as you have noted. And yes, his lady hips are an item he is trying to handle in session.

        • chukicita

          Wow! But can Scientology help with his being a weaselfaced douchecanoe?

    • Mockingbird

      Ouch. That warrants a shoop.

    • Liberated

      Ok Mr. Deville I’m ready for my close-up, this is my best side and I’m wearing my favorite stone-washed jeans, my favorite dip-shit watch and my hair is “perfect”.
      Do ya think I’m sexy?

      • FredEX2

        Yep. Too sexy for his hat.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I was just going to say I haven’t seen those type of jeans in awhile.

        • Liberated

          No one has. I used to buy them for my kid in the 90’s.

  • outraged

    Dear Mr. Miscavige,

    If one day you don’t have those barriers, large potted plants and/or people holding umbrellas, you can always try this:

    https://youtu.be/UDGKqWyzuRs

    • Graham

      He could walk sideways I suppose. But do bear in mind he’s a clam, not a crab 😉

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I hate when I have to do that.

  • Bwaaahaaahaaahhaaaahaaalololololol!XDXDXD

    • Pretty sure you are laughing.

        • Robert Eckert

          Stopped at a traffic light the other day and hear this woman absolutely shrieking in the car next to me, and at first I wondered if she was being abused and I should call the cops or something, but then it eased down into a more recognizable laughter and I could tell she was just helplessly broken up over some joke I will never know.

    • Kay

      He is laughable……ITA !!!! Just that jacket alone….

  • Kay

    I know he is based in Florida, but seriously, a fuchsia jacket? That is two sizes too small? Pics of him leaning against a luxury car etc.? Very “religiousy” ….not. Methinks he thinks he is in an episode of Miami Vice.
    His inspirational stuff is nauseating, BTW. I hope he has to pony up a ton of money for doing this to an employee.That pregnancy quote was extremely offensive, but then again crudeness seems to increase the longer people are in the cherch.

  • Spackle Motion

    Dapper? More like fapper.

    • Perfect.

    • Observer

      Thanks for that image

      • Oh, come on, he’s not bad to look at in an oily prettyboy kind of way.

        • Observer

          He’s…too oleaginous. Plus, I’ve never been attracted to pretty boys. I like nerds.

  • “Whenever you see Milwaukee, make sure to obtain Milwaukee’s Best Ice.”

  • More “inspirational” wisdom XD
    https://i.imgflip.com/18i67e.jpg

    • Kay

      Hahahahahhah HA HA HA !!!

    • flyonthewall

      he’s a breeder!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Victor?
    How unfortunate a name for such a loser.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/12/Business/14_from_Tampa_charged.shtml

    And this should be brought to the attention of the jury, Vick –

  • pilgrim

    Vic tells us what he’s really about on his own LinkedIn Summary.

    • Juicer77

      LOL

      • pilgrim

        We’ll know he was here reading comments or that OSA told him about it if he fixes it. 🙂

    • Rasha

      Nice catch

    • April

      Freudian slip?

    • sashiebgood

      MacDill Air Force Base? is that a thing? I’ve heard of MACGILL AFB. that seems a Hubbardism right there… “oh, no, I didn’t work at MacGill, I was at Mc DILL! Much more prestigious. oh, you’ve never heard of it? Well, it’s very hush hush, we people in the know all know about Mac Dill.”

    • Ella Raitch

      This post is just perfect for you, darling!

  • Kay

    Response to his really offensive pregnancy remark:

  • Supper Powers

    Fly and Supper on our play date!

    • Rasha

      ^_^

    • flyonthewall

      the reason I don’t show my teeth when I smile is cuz I have no teeth

    • Kim O’Brien

      HI ! both of you have beautiful eyes . You must work out 😉

      • Supper Powers

        I don’t think Mrs Fly would approve, but I sure am happy being a Fly Girl!

        • flyonthewall

          u are part of my harem now

          • $cnmonkeyrob$

            (sorry… can’t help myself… 🙂 )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qdkZ0ariy4

            • flyonthewall

              my new favorite clip

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              Glad you like it 🙂 (for those not in the know, the character in the clip above is Papa Lazarou from The League of Gentlemen, a late 90s BBC comedy series–very dark and deliriously funny.)

            • flyonthewall

              I DON’T KNOW YOU THAT’S MY PURSE!!

            • $cnmonkeyrob$
            • flyonthewall

              I changed my mind, this is my new fav clip

            • Ella Raitch

              I liked it at the start but have to admit it pushed a little too dark for me. About the time this came out we moved to a smallish town and were constantly asked ‘Are you local’. Cracked us up, no end. There is also a collection of residential villages called Royston Village, that still reminds me of the show every time I drive past.

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              I think that the darker it got, the more I liked it… must be a monkey thing :)PS Do you know who Royston Vasey is?

            • Ella Raitch

              no! Didn’t know it was a person!

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_%27Chubby%27_BrownWell… some call him a comedian… personally, I find him about as funny as herpes (one of those ones… like Jim Davidson…)

            • Ella Raitch

              Ok…yeah, I know Jim Davidson…..ugh

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              I liked the fact that the programme-makers had Roy ‘Chubby’ Brown as the mayor of the town (and let him be as foul mouthed as possible on the beeb!), still don’t like his brand of humour but liked the zen-like circularity of the pun–Royston Vasey, mayor of Royston Vasey!

            • Rasha

              …omagarsh….

            • beauty for ashes

              I’m just going to leave this here for Rasha. Nobody else watch this okay, I want it to be a nice surprise in the morning.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uyePGUv6Mk

            • Rasha

              ^_^ !!!!!!!

              VERY HUGZ, BEAUTY!!!!!!

            • Rasha

              Warning: O/T stuff follows: I love this, not only for the childish foolishness and fun, but also as an example of the nature of communication. Communication is not words.

              Ultimately, communication developed as a survival tool, and was refined to extend into ideas, maths, creativity, humor and orgianization as survival became more and more ensured. Unfortunately, most of the emphasis was put on words for communication, and less on gesture, posture, expression, timing, position, movement. That’s what makes this so cool. As he said, it became more of a Charlie Chaplin/Buster Keaton act, both of whom were masters of nonverbal communication. We talk with words, but we speak in so many other nuances.

              Words help though. Especially in Bunker posts. VERY THANKS, BEAUTY!!! ^_^

              …and a stapler is just a very simple Nailgun… just sayin’

            • beauty for ashes

              One thing I notice we both share~ we want to express, not just that we are laughing, but HOW we are laughing.
              And yes, totally the stapler fight I thought you would think is funny. *because nailgun*
              I’m glad you enjoyed this as much as I did! Also check out when he is on America’s got talent.

            • Rasha

              Will do!!! ^_^

              …and, yep! You got it!!

            • beauty for ashes

              Oh and Edinburg Fringe festival is now on my bucket list!

            • Rasha

              That looks so GREAT!!!!

            • Spackle Motion

              He took dental hygiene lessons from LRH, from the looks of it.

          • Supper Powers

            Well if there are more sandwiches like the one you shared with me, OK!

        • Fly Lady

          i know mrs. fly… she’s pretty cool. i think she’s ok with it!! i wouldn’t have had 1/2 a hot salami if you didn’t come over. 😉

          • Supper Powers

            Never had a better hot salami sandwich! 😉

      • Rasha

        LOL

    • Observer

      Whoa, you did get a haircut!

      • flyonthewall

        our ac finally died for good and it was like a swamp in the house so there was no delaying the haircut anymore. Now my brain is much cooler

        • Fly Lady

          yeah, but I think it suffered irreparable damage… sorry.

    • daisy

      OH How beautiful are you. Those are the nicest teeth and blue eyes. Fly you are the cutest, like the new do. Have fun and find a lake.

      • flyonthewall

        Thnx daisy. A friend loaned us a nice window unit so at least one room of the house is not a sweltering hellhole. I think the worst of the summer is past *cross fingers*

    • Love this!

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      Great photo!

    • Ella Raitch

      Kisses both of your cheeks muah muah muah. What a gorgeous photo!

    • beauty for ashes

      You guys!!! Ahhhhh Adorableness Alert!!!!! <3 <3 <3

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • Jimmy3

      Holy shit that’s sexy parking spot

      • flyonthewall

        back dat ass up! *beep* *beep* *beep*

    • Kim O’Brien

      gee …was he hypnotized into being a douche or does it just come naturally ?

      • That’s all natural, baby!

      • Royce Harlow

        It’s a superpower.

    • Beta Theta… It’s a Volkswagen Dude!

    • He spelled it wrong. He spelled it Theta B.

      • Rasha

        That’s what I read, too.

  • Jimmy3

    “SCIENTOLOGY IS LIKE AN STD. YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO WHILE YOU WERE GETTING IT ON, AND NOW EVERY BATHROOM TRIP IS ITS OWN WALL OF FIRE, BUT YOU WOULD STILL LIKE TO SHARE IT WITH EVERY ABLE BODY YOU CAN. EXCEPT NO ONE WANTS IT BECAUSE IT’S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH RISK AND PEOPLE GET ITCHY JUST THINKING ABOUT IT, SO YOU CAN’T SPEAK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY, AND SOME EVEN WORRY ABOUT HOW HORRIFIED THEIR SPOUSE WILL BE IF YOU DARE MENTION IT, BUT YOU SAY YOUR SPOUSE DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO KNOW, BUT THEY WILL KNOW, THEY WILL, BECAUSE THE CASH IS GONE AND THE RASH WON’T GO AWAY, AND THEN SUDDENLY YOU ARE IN A COURTROOM RECOUNTING ALL THE PEOPLE YOU’VE FUCKED.”

    How to make this fit on a douchey meme?

    • Rasha

      Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C, open pic of a certain douche, Ctrl-V, Alt-F, S.

      • $cnmonkeyrob$

        (… can you do that as a mouse demo?… monkey’s aren’t so good with keypress chains… 😉 )

        • Rasha

          Move cursor here… right click…. scroll to … here…. left click… move…… Ahhhh…… No. No, I can’t.

          ….new name?

          • $cnmonkeyrob$

            Thanks… that’ll do… I’ll figure something out!
            Yes, one that will be slightly less embarrassing when shouted across various crowded locations of a public nature… 🙂

            • Rasha

              You had me at “shouted”. Not that I have a problem with the old name….. even shouting. ^_^

      • Jimmy3

        It’s too long. I need an editor. Preferably a hot Mexican editor.

        • George Layton

          Preferably a hot STD-less Mexican editor.
          FIFY

        • 😉

          • daisy

            See now you were the only one that caught that.

          • Jimmy3

            Love it
            You’re hired

            • Just don’t try to force me to do scientology

    • Graham

      It might make a rather nice needlepoint sampler?

      • daisy

        lol

    • Put it in a comic strip form

    • madame duran

      What you need is a giant billboard. Preferably near FLAG or the Celebrity Centre.

  • nottrue

    Fucked up the view….

  • Inspiring. That’s our Vick.

    • Jimmy3

      Worst Vicks:
      1). The one who abused and murdered dogs
      2). The douchey one who posts douchey inspirdouchinal platidouches on instagram
      3). The one your creepy elderly neighbor is always offering to rub on you

      • But, you do sound a little congested, dearie . . .

  • Rasha

    The whole attempt at the je ne sais quoi squint just ain’t working. Je ne sais pas is more like it. BTW, there’s some snot or something on your tie, dude.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I think it is so funny when, usually dude’s think that a 499$ lease on a sports car is somehow going to get the layman or a chick to think they’ve arrived financially. I was at the petrol station and some guy kept looking over at me. I thought what the fuck is he looking at me for? Then it dawned on me he’s trying to make me feel less for not making payment’s on a sexy Mercedes. I wanted to say.”Well at least mine is paid” for but just chuckled to myself.

    • Mockingbird

      Joke’s on him, my cardboard box is fully paid for !

      • flyonthewall

        woh, Mr. Fancy Pants has a cardboard box! What’s the matter, pee blanky not good enough for you!?

        • Mockingbird

          I am living the high life !

    • Maybe he just liked the cut of your jib?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        At first I did think he was cruising me (actually, could be) but then just the vibe. I drive a 2001Celica and I felt he wanted me to know how much better he was than me.

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Vick, A little Stourton paint job and that car will have some class. You might even get a Knighthood out of it.

    http://www.tedstourton.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/1.jpg

    • daisy

      Now this Is a parade float I might ride in. The only way I would ride in the other is tied up in the trunk.

      • Kay

        LOL !!!!!!!!

        • daisy

          I love that you are such a cheap laugh.

          • Kay

            THAT is HILARIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • daisy

              ISWYDT.

    • Flower Power! Weed… Weed…

      • flyonthewall

        do you feel the need? The need for weed

        • Remember Harold Hedd ? F5

          • flyonthewall

            i do not. Underground comics, I should of read more of them 🙁

    • Missionary Kid

      Janis Joplin’s Porsche was far better looking, and only sold for $1.76 million. http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/10/luxury/janis-joplin-porsche-auction/ It was on loan from her family to the Rock and Roll Museum in Cleveland until last year.

      That Stourton paint job looks like a fucked up camouflage job mixed up with a little old lady’s 40 year old print dress that ran through a garbage disposer.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        LOVE JJ’s Porsche! Thanks for the link. Had seen pics but that video was fun to watch.

        • Missionary Kid

          On my way to Howdycon, at the Cleveland airport, they had a mural of it on the wall that was a part of the publicity for the Rock and Roll Museum. I already knew it had been sold, and I don’t know where it is now. When I went to the museum, they were sad it was gone.

          The auction had been on TV, and Janis’ sister and brother said that it was time to sell it. I hope the new owner displays it somewhere. I haven’t been able, upon a cursory search, to find out who owns it now.

          • Jenyfurrrrr

            Yeah that’d be a total bummer if the new owner was someone who just wants it in their massive rec room to show off at dinner parties! If I see or find anything, I’ll find you and post a link!

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks.

        • Missionary Kid

          The mural was on an airport wall leading out of the airport.

  • Mockingbird

    I expect to be blocked on Facebook by John Mappin and his crew. I posted the following comment on his thread attacking Steven Hawking.

    I don’t understand why dozens of ad hominem attacks on a claimant would be used. That is the genetic fallacy and any high school debate student would lose for it. Using ad hominem is admitting you have no ideas to defend your claim.

    If Hawking has the claim that FTL is impossible he can’t prove it. But if you claim FTL is possible then the burden of proof shifts to YOU as the claimant.

    If a person claimed to recall whole track space opera with FTL and other super technology then it would be very easy to prove your claim. Just recall the designs for a FTL vehicle and create it. Or even any advanced technology at all. Even one item.

    • Ha ha… They would have no idea what you wrote.. Not even me has a clue 🙂

      • Mockingbird

        In debate ad hominem is personal attacks. Like if someone says Scientology is a fraud and Hubbard attacks the person instead of facing the claim. It’s not acceptable in a debate. You deal with claims, not the person making them.

        The genetic fallacy is acting like the source of a claim is an issue. It isn’t. Anyone can make a true or false claim.

        By telling the Scientologists this I undercut all the insults they pile on Stephen Hawking. The insults are irrelevant.

        When Mappin claims FTL is possible he has taken on the burden of proof. That means proving his claim is his job. He frankly can’t meet the burden and by referencing the while track space opera I deal with the proof all the Scientologists believe in.

        • FLT?

          • Missionary Kid

            Your dyslexia kick in? Faster Than Light.

            • htf should i know? TTL?

            • Missionary Kid

              😀

          • Mockingbird

            Faster than light. In science fiction it’s means of traveling faster than light.

  • Mockingbird

    One of the Scientologists on Mappin’s feed has claimed Stephen Hawking has a long way to go to catch up to Mr Trump. I…(sobbing)….

    • Kay

      Aaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh…………….

      • Mockingbird

        I am still alive.

        • Kay

          That’s good. I don’t think I will survive this election some days…truly.

          • Mockingbird

            None of us will if a madman uses nuclear weapons.

            • Kay

              Very true…unfortunately.

      • Kim O’Brien

        when i was a kid …i watched Mikhail Baryshnikov dance on PBS . It was the most beautiful thing i had ever seen …i was amazed . It made me cry to think that I was actually part of a species that could actually dance like that …like love and art in motion . It was the first time the word
        ” transcendence ” actually spoke to me ( if you know what i mean )

        Those people that Mockingbird is talking about …make me feel like that …only the total opposite .

        I’m with you ….Aaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhh. This is why we can’t have nice things ;(

        • Kay

          ITA !!!!!

        • flyonthewall

          my oldest daughter turned ten recently and I’m taking her to see Cirque de Soleil on Sunday for her b-day, daddy/daughter hangout. I hope she has a similar moment as yours

          • daisy

            Just spending time with her father all to herself will guarantee it.

            • flyonthewall

              🙂

          • Kim O’Brien

            oh WOW ! That is so cool Fly …what a great outing . I hope it takes her breath away …

            • flyonthewall

              it better, for how much I paid per tkt! 😉

            • Kim O’Brien

              😉 good dads are good

            • Fly Lady

              he’s the best!! all the kids fight over which one loves their daddy the most!!

            • Kay

              Yes those tickets are really really pricey…….you are a good Daddy, she will love it !!

            • beauty for ashes

              Just don’t give her mushrooms. **punches myself in the face** Ignore me I am just jealous.

    • $cnmonkeyrob$

      There, there…*pats Mockingbird on the back*… it’s all right… you’re safe here now… all the woo and nonsense has disappeared into the electronic æther…
      … you have closed the tab, right?:)

      • Mockingbird

        I keep looking for a response or to be blocked. They don’t know what the genetic fallacy is or what to think of me. I expect ad hominem attacks.

        • lynn

          that is an argument that’ll ruin your weekend.

        • $cnmonkeyrob$

          Ah–ok… we’ll be here when you’ve finished attempting to enlighten the benighted natives of Mappin. Good luck, Sir!(FWIW–monkey is of the opinion that they cling so desperately to their woo, they’ll either:{a} not understand–and ad hom you instead;{b} not understand–and block you;or {c} try to understand… fail miserably… and ad hom and/or block you!)

    • lynn

      apparently, Insanity has no limits.

    • lynn

      All the Trumpies & Scientologists should buy an Island, clear it, then build a wall around it…with all of them on it.

    • Kay

      LOL !!! Plus, “I am gazing off into the distance with a dreamy look in my eyes because”
      A. I think it looks SOOOO sexy
      B. I actually need strong glasses, so I am not at all sure where the camera is
      C. I am pondering the fact that good scientologists have total power over MEST, so instead of
      sharing this information to help peeps with their sleep apnea, I am making machines to make
      money off of them…lots of it. I’m no dummy.

    • Observer

      “Finally! I thought I’d never get that wedgie out!”

    • Mockingbird

      Ouch. Not very nice. 🙁

      • Neither are you. Why single me out? Do you want to explain why you are calling me out but not other shoopers. I’m really interested in your answer.
        Edit: Actually, what I really mean is fuck you, you longwinded hypocritical cretin. I don’t give a fuck what you think of my stuff. Hate on it all you want you tl;dr troll.

        • Mockingbird

          I meant being a D bag isn’t very nice !?

          • Supper Powers

            No you didn’t. You were criticizing Nat. Just own it.

            • Mockingbird

              No. Sometimes I answer a shoop as if I am talking to the person in the shoop. I have done the same thing with shoops of David Miscavige.

            • Supper Powers

              Your answer to the shoop doesnt even make sense. It’s hard to believe you.

            • Mockingbird

              I in the past at the Underground Bunker have answered OT8isGrrr8 as if I was answering David Miscavige himself with questions, insults ect.

              I realize that every comment I ever made isn’t memorized and analyzed by each person. It’s easy to see how this can happen.

              I answer OT8isgrrr8 one way and Jeffrey Augustine another even though they are the same person.

              I can see how this habit wasn’t apparent.

              My answer to the Scientologist in the shoop is because his real and shooped sayings aren’t nice. He in reality and fiction comes across as inconsiderate. That is the common denominator his sayings have.

        • Mockingbird

          I meant HE wasn’t very nice !

        • Mockingbird

          I was answering the dude in the shoop. He’s not nice.

        • Mockingbird

          Mockingbird a few seconds ago
          I in the past at the Underground Bunker have answered OT8isGrrr8 as if I was answering David Miscavige himself with questions, insults ect.
          I realize that every comment I ever made isn’t memorized and analyzed by each person. It’s easy to see how this can happen.
          I answer OT8isgrrr8 one way and Jeffrey Augustine another even though they are the same person.
          I can see how this habit wasn’t apparent.
          My answer to the Scientologist in the shoop is because his real and shooped sayings aren’t nice. He in reality and fiction comes across as inconsiderate. That is the common denominator his sayings have.

        • Mockingbird

          I didn’t mean to attack you or your work. I should’ve realized it wasn’t clear that I was referring to the Scientologist who made the original post and his shooped ones too. You are free to have any opinion.

          • Dude, I am so sorry I went off on you. Please forgive me. I was being irrational.

  • Mockingbird

    One of the Scientologists remarked that Hawking has a cult developed around him. It’s sad.

    • flyonthewall

      I’m sure they meant to say new religious movement instead of cult

      • Mockingbird

        Yeah, if Scientology is a cult I am a bigot. They aren’t bigots though.

  • funnybroad

    Does this mean that all these other employees are taking Scientology courses?: https://www.blackstonemedicalservices.com/about/

    • Mockingbird

      Poor people.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        If they aren’t poor yet they will be.

  • Kim O’Brien

    you just know that this is the type of guy to have mirrors in the bedroom at every angle , so he can watch himself fuck . Ugh ….plus the stone washed jeans . Why are these guys trapped in an episode of Miami Vice ?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I bet he makes a lot of love to himself.

      • Kim O’Brien

        and he’s the best he’s ever had …

        • He cheats on his left hand with his right.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            He carries a picture of his right hand around in his wallet.

            • flyonthewall

              what are you guys talking about?

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              onanism (or masturbation, if you like 🙂 )

            • flyonthewall

              ooohhh right right, i know what that is

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              think the general implication is Vick’s basically a bit of a wanker

            • $cnmonkeyrob$
            • Go get mommy’s purse and I’ll give you a treat.

            • flyonthewall

              The last time I did that you were gone when I came back and didn’t return for 3 days but I see no reason not to trust you, brb!

            • Mommy’s friend needs some more of the candy that Mr. Jenkins in 455 sells in those little baggies? Here’s some money, now scoot!

            • lynn

              good grief! Trying to save my keyboard & now I have rasp ICEE in my sinuses.

          • Franklin Adams

            Naw, he pulls a “Stranger”. He’ll sit on his left hand til it goes numb and then rubs one out.

            Thank Dave Chapelle for that lovely image.

          • daisy

            You need to go on the road and make money at this.

        • Missionary Kid

          Or so he thinks.

  • More deep wisdom from Just The Tipnes . . .

  • This story was too delicious. I’m not getting any fucking work done!

    • Rasha

      IKR???

  • That photo of him in the red jacket, as well as some of his executive’s images look like they were shot at the Ybor City Cigar Factory Ideal Org. Anybody been there to corroborate?

    And their sleep expert looks like a real egghead.

    God, this story has turned me into a mean 14 year-old.

    • flyonthewall

      are you going to put him in the Burn Book?

  • I’m a terrible person. He’s probably saved many lives.

    But, egg.

    • Kay

      No you are not terrible, you are human and this bait was just too much to resist, truly. He makes himself a pretty big target by his behavior and presentation. Personally I was wondering if he wears SPANX under his clothes, so I’m far worse than you are.

    • FredEX2

      I am a terrible person too. I’m not nice today either. I’ve been saying bad things, laughing until I get the hiccups and poking the bear, mocking Vic and entheta has been expressed. Must be the heat.

      Oh. Hi OSA https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/648a79c9615542255e52551a12a12ead7c2d5e3cf1402091f0c2049f7cb5a602.jpg

      • Rasha

        Rasha needs laughs today. I really love that medicine.

  • flyonthewall

    I may as well throw my ring in this hat. f5

    • WARNING: Object in mirror may be shallower than it appears.

    • Jimmy3

      Jesus, fly… We were only having some fun at his expense. It was lighthearted teasing. You didn’t have to make it personal.

      The fuck is wrong with you?

      • Oh, look, my ride’s here. Gotta go!

      • flyonthewall

        TBI. I was hit by a roadside bomb on my way to 7-11 to get smokes. I’m a hero

        • Franklin Adams

          I’ll give you an ACM with a Valor device, but be warned, it’ll likely be like two of mine and get downgraded to a handshake and a pat on the head from a field grade officer.

          • flyonthewall

            I’ll take it! I hope I didn’t offend you. Thank you for your service, sincerely.

            • Franklin Adams

              Naw, don’t worry about it. I’m E-4 mafia (even though I left at E-5, which is a sacrilege but I figured it’d speed my medboard up if they were paying me more, when I realized that HRC hadn’t put a flag on my records yet), we’re the sarcastic bastards who run the service.

            • flyonthewall

              I didn’t understand most of that but I trust you that it makes sense

            • Franklin Adams

              Its just my rank, I was a Specialist, the last junior enlisted rank before you’re a Non-Commissioned Officer and have to start being slightly responsible. NCOs have to set an example. Specialists do not, they just have to be able to be good at their jobs.

              Its paygrade E-4. I did go to the darkside and got promoted while I was waiting on my medical evaluation board so I could leave the Army and get something out of it (like VA benefits and my GI Bill) after I got injured because it usually speeds things up. It takes the Army medical department between six to eight months (in Army time, so its more like a year) to process a medboard, unless you somehow start making more money, they usually prevent that by putting a flag on your records so you can’t be promoted or demoted, my personnel officer did not do that on mine, so I had an opportunity to turn six to eight months of babysitting new trainees at a reception battalion into two or three (Again, Army time, it wound up being six).

              Anyway, the “E-4 Mafia” are Specialists or Corporals who do the dirty work of keeping the 17 and 18 year olds in line and not letting them get too crazy to the point it attracts attention from officers or very senior enlistedmen like first sergeants or sergeants major, making your life difficult. Like most jobs, the less interference from supervisors, the better. Shit gets done, they look good, you avoid attention, and everyone gets to be a big happy fucked up family and the junior enlistedmen usually get to have a bit of fun doing it.

        • Fly Lady

          jesus, I just bought you “smokes” this morning… how many of those things do you need??

          • Franklin Adams

            Uh-oh. You’re gonna need that ACM now.

          • flyonthewall

            A LOT, like 32 at least

            • Fly Lady

              one “smoke” for each of the teeth you don’t have?

      • Rasha

        …silly Fly.

  • flyonthewall

    do you think he knows we’ve been making fun of him all day and is crying right now?

    • I imagine he cleaves to the old chestnut “There’s no such thing as bad publicity.” I’m pretty sure that he just sees this as a sales opportunity, if he can stay in his lane, that is.

      • flyonthewall

        I’m gonna hurl a beer bottle at him!

        • That’s cruel . . . unless it’s empty.

          • daisy

            You are on fire today.

    • OOkpik

      Roadkill doesn’t cry.

    • Nah. The theta — it protects big beings like him XD
      Also he hasn’t even granted us any “beingness” whatsoever so our petty jokes and shoops have no effect on him. How can they? We are WOGS beneath notice donchaknow

      • flyonthewall

        is there some way we can trick him into granting us beingness?

        • Hmmm, probably just follow him on Instagram XD

        • Franklin Adams

          I just want some of his havingness. Like that Porsche would be better off if I had it and not him.

  • flyonthewall
  • Franklin Adams

    I love how in almost all of his pictures he trying to look like some schmuck from America’s Next Top Model, the whole not looking at the camera thing. He’s so fierce I want to cry. Or maybe that’s allergies.

    • Snippy_X

      Blue steel.

      • daisy

        This is a true story. I was coming home from work one day in my 1st car. It was a Honda mini I bought for 300$ . It was so small ( I wouldn’t fit in it today ) ugly and dirty. Somehow I made a turn and ended up in a luxury car parade. I couldn’t get out of it so I just smiled and waved til I finally got to my apt. across the city.

        • Missionary Kid

          The contrast must have been hilarious.

          • daisy

            I hope so or I was embarrassed for nothing.

            • Missionary Kid

              I love the way you just owned it. I’m sure you got a lot of smiles.

        • Snippy_X

          Bet you made a lot of people laugh that day.

        • I once blundered into an informal hill climb competition being held for custom cars, being held after a show in Cornwall. Unfortunately, I was driving a mini with an 848cc engine and 3 other people on board.

          I pulled back the window and apologised. They just looked at me, and decided that the fastest way to get rid of us was to make it a joke and let us ‘compete’. They waved a huge starting flag, I selected1st, and set off.

          I made my way up in 2nd gear and recorded the 2nd slowest time of the day (the slowest was a vehicle with a V8 engine that blew a gasket just after the start and crawled past the finish line). We got the biggest cheer of the day though.

          • daisy

            Great story. I often think Thank God you cannot really die from embarrassment . I take these things in stride now though.

            • One of the advantages of getting older is that you acquire the confidence to be able to laugh at yourself. That leaves no place for embarrassment.

            • daisy

              I am not so sure if it is confidence or inurement, either way I will take it.

            • I find that being too tired to bother has the same effect as confidence, so why quibble : -)

  • Installing Linux on my pc. Shit is crazy.

    • Good luck.

      • Yeah, I need it.

        • Missionary Kid

          Which flavor of Linux are you using?

          • Franklin Adams

            Systemd ate him probably. That or anaconda’s strangling him at the moment if he’s using RHEL, CentOS or Fedora.

        • The ubuntu theme still gives me cold sweats XD

          • Franklin Adams

            Same here, but with Fedora’s default in KDE.

          • Missionary Kid

            Have you tried another distribution?

          • Franklin Adams

            Unity drove me off ubuntu completely. I don’t like GNOME 3 for most of the same reasons. It might be decent on a tablet but on a desktop computer, it is not.

    • Franklin Adams

      Have fun with that. I can help if things go weird. What distribution?

      • Willy now. Eta – Kubuntu. Still installing.

        • I recommend Lubuntu, expecially for an old PC. I’ve tried Kubuntu. The K stands for Klunky.

          • Franklin Adams

            For older hardware, I’d never recommend KDE. KDE is full featured and you can tell. KDE is what I use, and it flies, but I have crazy hardware and I compiled it from source, since you have to do that on BSD for everything, even if you’re using ports its still just pulling the source code and compiling but automatically.

            • I tried Kubuntu it out because it was promoted as suitable for older hardware (and people give me a lot of older hardware). It’s not. I don’t know how it runs on up-to-date stuff because I’ve never tried it, but I glad you and KDE get along.

              In my experience Lubuntu is perfect for hardware designed to run XP (and earlier (although you may have to use the alternative install disk for very old machines with low memory)

            • Franklin Adams

              KDE runs like a dog on anything older than Windows 7 era, well KDE 4 and 5 anyway. It may be slightly faster compiling it from source, such as in Gentoo and on the BSDs but I still wouldn’t recommend it over Xfce and LXDE for older hardware.

              My first Linux DE was KDE 2 because CDE was still encumbered, and KDE was closest to it, my first computer was an AT&T UNIX Sys V workstation with some 4.4BSD bits and pieces that AT&T had grabbed (and then proceeded to sue Berkeley over, while continuing to use a bunch of Berkeley’s packages regardless) so CDE was what we used but that was a long time ago.

            • I noticed Linux much later, and liked the early iterations of Ubuntu. I don’t know what the GUI was, back then, but it was based on drop-down menus with written labels and was simple and easy to use.

              Unity, and all the other frantic attempts to build a GUI that will work on mouse driven PCs and tablets are always an annoying, graphic-heavy compromise.

              I just want something that will enable me to do what I want to do without requiring a super-computer or having to navigate through endless icons.

              At the moment, I’m running Unbuntu, Lubuntu and Windows 10. I go to Lubuntu whenever I just want to write, without having to fight the OS.

              PS, of course I use Android too… but that’s just another (Google) GUI running on Linux. Almost everyone is actually using Linux, today, and they don’t know it.

    • Snippy_X

      Take some random photos of the install.

      • Mint. Didn’t work out.

        • OOkpik

          Try this.

    • Ella Raitch

      Good for you. Recently bought a 2nd hand netbook and have dual boot windows 7 and Linux Mint. Very happy with the results. Mint much better for a newbie transitioner than Ubuntu.

      • Franklin Adams

        Mint’s probably the best if you don’t have UNIX experience. Plus it comes with non-free codecs (somehow) out of the box.

        • Ella Raitch

          I put Ubuntu on my old one and was ok with it, but Mint seems more ‘seamless’. When I switch back to win7 it is soooo clunky, but Linux has that newOS performance. Loving it.

      • Liberated

        I thought about you today, I was in this market and saw mandarin oranges from Aus.
        I said to myself ” I know someone from Aus., wonder if Ella R. likes these oranges”
        Made me feel worldly for a moment.

      • For those with old machines (ie Windows XP era) Lubuntu is good. It’s a version of Ubuntu with a much simpler user interface, and makes an old PC productive again – expecially if you only want to access the web.

        • Franklin Adams

          Yeah the minimalist Desktop Environments, like LXDE which is what Lubuntu uses, tend to make older x86 computers seem a hell of a lot faster. Xfce is also good for that, Linus Torvalds himself used Xfce for a few years until he got off the PowerPC box he’d been using.

          Really, your best bet for speed on an older computer is to use something that compiles everything from source code (and supports PAE) like Gentoo or a BSD, but its a pain in the ass to install and extremely daunting for a non-technical user, shit up until FreeBSD 10, you had to manually mark the system partition as the boot partition, either during install or immediately after installing it before you restarted.

          I’m a FreeBSD user for my Unixlikes nowadays and it works like a dream if you know what you’re doing. It could easily be the stuff of nightmares if you’re new to UNIX or unixlikes though.

          • As I say elsewhere, people give me a lot of old hardware.

            Since XP is no longer supported by Microsoft it’snow full of security holes, I install Lubuntu and pass them on to folks who (for example) want a PC for the kids to access the web and do their homework.

            Lubuntu is quick and easy to install (easier than Windows) and, being based on Ubuntu has good support for hardware. I’ve installed it on a number of laptops, now and it has never failed to connect to WiFi, something Linux occasionally has problems with, due to propitiatory Microsoft drivers.

            Horses for courses 🙂

    • aegerprimo

      Good luck.

    • salin

      Had to buy a wired keyboard today. The antiquated desktop computer still works – but the keyboard died this morning. Though the computer still works, replacing peripherals, like a keyboard, show how obsolete the computer is. Lots of wireless keyboards, one wired-in keyboard. Fortunately, it worked.

      I had good luck (short term – sooner or later the old desktop will die), hope you have the same in the Linux installation.

    • Jo

      Linux is good, my PC never failed me, until my battery blew up, well I think it was that.

    • beauty for ashes

      Upvote this if the following conversation gives you a feeling of mild terror mixed with sudden onset dementia.

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        Should I take the chance to do a down vote? I might prove I am demented. hell it’s only the bunker anything goes right?

  • Jimmy3

    Maybe I’m just low on blood sugar because I ran out of dick lollipops, but does anyone else think this Vick guy may be 1.1? His name even rhymes with dick.

    • FredEX2

      Jimmy, I hope Derek doesn’t see this.

      • daisy

        I think he is riffing on Derek*s earlier comment.

        • beauty for ashes

          Nobody should say anything that could be construed *free candy* around Jimmy.

          • salin

            uhm. LOL!

          • Jimmy3

            Wtf
            How did you get out of the van?

            • beauty for ashes

              technically my foot is still in the van, so I’m not really escaping. heh heh heh. just gonna back into this ……nice orange shag carpet lined ……rusty old van now.

            • FredEX2

              OMG LOL!

  • daisy

    Just got home from a blood drive in our little town.( I go for the free pop and cookies ) and there were at least 20 kids this D-bags age waiting up to 2 hrs to donate blood on a Friday summer night. RL saving my faith in the future. I have to get out more.

    • Jimmy3

      Because they think they’ll get shitfaced more shittier and more facier if they have less blood
      We all did the same thing every time the Red Cross came to our school

      • daisy

        Now why didn’t I think of that. I did put supply free liquor on the comment card though.

        • Jimmy3

          You have a lot to learn, padawan. What you should have done is rolled up that comment card, dipped it in embalming fluid and smoked it right there in front of those vampires.

          • daisy

            Where were you in my 20*s ? Oh yeah being born.( I am sorry J3 I should have left that set up for you ) I know the local undertaker so I will try it next time.

    • Liberated

      Yes but your B – blood is precious.

      • daisy

        I know ! I have blood ! I have the best blood ! People say I bleed the best !Everybody says so ! BELIEVE ME! (Watching too much CNN )

        • Liberated

          You go girl!

        • salin

          Lol. Have you been practicing channeling Trumpspeak? It’s hilarious!

          • Franklin Adams

            If it was Trumpese, she’d have to end every post with a single word and an exclaimation mark.

            For instance, “My third Eastern European wife worked illegally in the US, making me a hypocrite. True!”

            “The bleached muskrat on my head told me he’s voting for Hillary. Sad!”

            • daisy

              I edited .

            • salin

              Even after the edit, I caught the rhythm/theme. Very well done.

            • salin

              But if in a speech, rather than a tweet – where the single (often monosyllabic word is used to conclude) – she gets the essence of Tumpism.

            • Franklin Adams

              True. Essence of Trump, now thats something I don’t ever want to smell.

            • daisy

              Letterman once said – Donald weighs 180 lbs. 10 lbs were cologne.

            • daisy

              wrong person but thanks for the up vote anyway.

  • I follow some TV critics on Twitter who were just Tweeting about a press event for a new show called “Chance,” costarring Ethan Suplee. I know Ethan’s a Scientologist, but his name rarely comes up (obviously he’s no Nancy Cartwright). Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if he is still a dedicated member? I found some completions and photos online but little beyond 2009 or so.

    • daisy

      Was he a scientologist before the TV show he did with Jason Lee ?

      • I believe he was, since the Scientology Completions list shows him doing the Purif in 1993, 12 years before “Earl” debuted.

        • Jimmy3

          Jason Lee and Ethan Supplee were in Mallrats together, and that started production in 1994. I always kinda assumed they were friends before that.

  • Snippy_X
  • beauty for ashes

    I want some ice cream.
    ETA~next time I say this threaten me with a reg cycle.

    • daisy

      I want Vodka . What*s the point ? ( actually now I am having embalming fluid and smoke cravings thanks to J3 and Fly )

      • beauty for ashes

        I need some affirmation. That it is only human to crave ice cream with smashed oreos in it.
        Eff it. Going in!

      • Jo

        Red wine and Lego, sounds good. I’m in.

      • Supper Powers

        Seriously.

    • outraged

      me too, b&J’s, lots chocolate, caramel, reeses, lol

      • beauty for ashes

        You deserve an indulgence. 🙂

  • Asillem4

    Vick looks like he’s auditioning for the cover of a romance novel…badly, but giving us a look-see @ how sexy he thinks he is anyway.

    • outraged

      Vick looks like blood’s dripping from his fingers.

    • salin

      Going back a couple of decades (per romance novel vacuous figures), Vick is no Fabio.

  • outraged

    The Scientology Caption jokes are already starting, but need new and better input.
    My mind has gone on a cruise – for the moment.

    http://dlisted.com/2016/08/05/the-caption-this-contest-for-august-5th-4/

    • daisy

      Too late for that wall. The aliens are at the border.

      • daisy

        also.. Even the illegal aliens want out of the country before Trump gets elected.

        • Supper Powers

          *wine everywhere*

        • daisy

          lll

          • daisy

            Is Shelley in there ?

    • daisy

      Sorry Xenu, Trump is our new overlord.

    • daisy

      Another new alien wife delivery for Trump . Sign here

    • It’s wet!

    • Missionary Kid

      Damn! Another Battlefield Earth promotion.

    • PTS

      “Excuse me, sir, I don’t care if you come from Mars, that sign says ‘resident parking only’ and you don’t have a permit.”

  • Mockingbird

    Here’s something John Mappin posted that combines his admiration for God Emperor Trump and many Scientology ideas.

    Begin quote:

    THE TRUE ANATOMY OF THE ANTI-TRUMP MIND SET – OR – SIGNS OF CRIMINALS – PARASITES – THE LAZY – AND TOTAL FAILURES.

    If there is ONE thing, that our recent meetings in Switzerland with a number of the most influential people in Europe, which included several powerful private international bankers, has demonstrated, it is this:

    Donald Trump has a POLARISING quality on countries, groups and individuals.

    This has peen pointed out by some commentators as a negative factor.

    We don’t see it that way, in fact Trump’s ability to polarise and sort the wheat from the chaff may be one of the greatest things about him and may well prove to be his greatest local and international asset.

    For Trump has flushed into view, some quite ghastly elements of society. Elements and characters that for years have operated silently behind closed doors preying on the decent impulses of the majority, and previously when these characters did finally emerge from their shadows, their true function has been, skilfully been blurred to public view and effectively perfumed with the public relations scent of a thousand left wing and communist mouth pieces and Madison Avenue based media firms.

    Trump has started to flush these elements into view and we are only now beginning to seeing their true vicious and very ugly colours.

    The people of this world breakdown into essentially two groups.

    1. Those who wish to create something out of nothing…and

    2. Those who wish to make nothing out of something.

    In the first group you will find life’s great pioneers, adventurers, artists and those who have built and shaped our world for the better.

    In the second you will find the Criminals, Despots, Parasitic elements and their followers and those who have operated so long in that vein of activity that they have arrived at its logical end… TOTAL FAILURE.

    There are those who WIN in life and there are those who are dedicated to a path of LOSS.

    But it perhaps has never been so easy, thanks to Donald Trump, and since the announcement of the Trump Candidacy, to spot WHO exactly has and prefers the catalytic and inspiring tendencies of a WINNER and to see who, and to what degree, favours and pushes the TOXIC operating strategy of the LOSER.

    It is this simple concept of – SOMETHING FOR NOTHING – that gives us the clue to observe the obvious.

    One of the surest signs that one is dealing with people who are dedicated to the path of LOSING is the concept and demand that one is due something for nothing. This is the hallmark and brand of a criminal and it is this idea that has been cleverly woven into communist philosophies and socialist agendas. It has destroyed individuals, families, groups companies and entire countries.

    It has been pushed into our society so hard that the entire governmental educational establishment forwards it, and woe betide anyone who questions is core idea and its harmful philosophy.

    This is the concept that lies at the root of all the failures of Socialist governments around the world, it lies at the heart of the Global Debt Crisis, at the centre of the economic catastrophe called the European Union and is in it’s finality is the principal justification and core function of War.

    THE IDEA “THAT ONE IS OWED SOMETHING FOR NOTHING”.

    AND THE INTENTION “TO MAKE NOTHING OUT OF SOMETHING”.

    Trumps candidacy has changed all that because for the first time in over a century the great people of America, The Greatest Superpower on Earth have been challenged to WIN again.

    The Old Socialist and Communist guards and gatekeepers to the halls of power whose job, was all but done, in their goal to degrade a modern culture to a point of no return have been caught off guard because has Trump has lit a dormant touch paper in peoples minds. His call, To Make America Great Again and the desire to WIN of the America people is proving to be, by far, the more powerful impulse of the two.

    In the last few days those who have been lurking in the shadows for decade have now exposed themselves and their henchmen are now hard at work to destroy Trump. They use their traditional channels media and those that they own politically. But their tune and melody is an old one and decent people have stopped believing it.

    Their work so far has only highlighted the fact of their existence and has strengthened Trump.

    It’s a testimony to how smart good people really are.

    By far the most powerful and enduring legacy of Donald Trump is the simple fact that his is an idea that has found its time.

    CRIMINALS – THE PARASITES – THE LAZY – AND TOTAL FAILURES – Those who seek to make NOTHING out of SOMETHING … Oppose him.

    ADVENTURERS – THE BUILDERS OF OUR WORLD – TRUE ARTISTS – AND TRULY CREATIVE BEINGS and those who love to create SOMETHING out of NOTHING… Love Donald Trump.

    When the Democratic party starts to realise… just how far Trumps philosophy and ideas have already permeated the socialist and democratic base and how his ideas alone have destroyed years of socialist and communist brainwashing and grooming of the general public in false and unworkable ideas…it is then that you can truly expect a display of enmity by the entrenched powers that has not ever been displayed in the modern history of this world…expect quite some fireworks!!

    By our estimates and analysis, that realisation, will be in about four to six weeks time, but it could happen at any moment. It’s just a shift in thought and a recognition of a reality shift that has happened already with the people, but the type of mind blindness that such characters wear due to their brainwashing protocols is quite extraordinary. It takes some time for them to adjust their mental eyes and analytical capacity to sanity and to brightness.

    To be fair to them, Trump, is a very bright and execptionally sane light and when one has lived in the socialist caves and catacombs beneath the halls of power it can take time to adjust to the brightness.

    So indeed, Trump is exposing man’s polarities and THAT may well be his greatest gift. A gift not just to America but to the whole world and its entire economic system.

    Each of us needs to decide which of those two impulses to validate in ourselves and others and we need to observe very closely the actions of those who had and have in reality actively planned the enslavement of the entire world through their socialist chicanery and whose plans have been severely halted and interrupted by Mr Trump.

    By their actions you shall know them.

    It promises to be a very very interesting few months indeed.

    ———

    More news subscribe at Camelot Castle TV Network end quote

    • daisy

      MB go to You tube type in Real time with Bill Mahr new rules June 3 2016 to see Trumps twitter re Stephen Hawkings. I wish I knew how to link .

      • beauty for ashes

        here ha go babe, but I’m pretty sure its a joke.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7z2lZr22ew

        • daisy

          Oh I am silly, but in my defense it is hard to tell the jokes from the truth anymore.

          • beauty for ashes

            The Trump part was very plausible as truth. Except the event horizon joke which was way over Trump’s head to make. That’s what made me pause.

            • daisy

              I just assumed he plagurized that part.

            • beauty for ashes

              the fake tweet hilariously got his theory wrong. I can’t even explain it. It’s beyond me, I knew I shouldn’t have had that sugar now I’m crashing, and I bbuu nerm fweep.

        • Mockingbird

          Thanks

          • beauty for ashes

            bien sur monsieur!

      • Mockingbird

        OMG. If Trump genuinely believes he is smarter than Hawking it’s not really a surprise but it’s still disgusting.

    • Liberated

      I’m speechless, this Mappin character is truly insane.
      I wish the people in his “audience ” either on line or live in person could see before and after photos of Lisa McPherson as this asshole is spewing his hateful speech.
      Polarizing is good, what ?

      • Mockingbird

        He is actually quoting a lot of Scientology phrases and fitting himself and Trump into the big beings and degraded beings view Hubbard presented.

        I may take the time to write a blog post on it and refer to the corresponding Scientology references.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Trump has flushed into view, some quite ghastly elements of society.
      Elements and characters that for years have operated silently behind
      closed doors preying on the decent impulses of the majority, and
      previously when these characters did finally emerge from their shadows,
      their true function has been, skilfully been blurred to public view…”

      Wow! Who knew that Twumpy has been working so hard behind the scenes to investigate and expose the dark heart of $cientology!?

      I’m seriously going to have to reconsider my view of him now in light of all this!

      If this screed is the representative product of a fully enlightened OT mind, then I’ll pay NOT to be audited!

      “Trump has lit a dormant touch paper in peoples minds.”

      Stop it, puleeeze STOP IT…before I’m forced to lapse into my faux Sherman valence and commit further literary atrocities 😉

      • Mockingbird

        Obviously John Mappin like Trump is a conspiracy theorist.

  • Supper Powers

    Phew. I’m finally decompressing after my visit with Fly. His Lego Room is serious! It is organized by color and in bins. The Lego creations in his house are really jaw dropping. Cool stuff! And does Fly know how to impress a gal named Supper Powers! He had lunch ready for me and I do not exaggerate when I say it really was the best sandwich I ever ate. I finished before he did (I win!), but spilled all over the floor in my enthusiasm. His kids are stinking cute and smart and I loved meeting them. Mrs Fly was out but I look forward to seeing her next time I’m in the Lou. So much fun to have real world convo with an insect!

    I will not deny it. I’m a Fly Girl.

    • Liberated

      This is totally O/T, I love the pearls you wore in the photo of you and fly. Pearls are my favorite.
      So pretty.

      • Supper Powers

        That’s sweet of you to say. Thank you. I am a pearl person. I gave Fly’s daughter a lil bracelet with 4 pearls on it. She giggled and I think she liked it.

        • Missionary Kid

          His daughters are cute and smart and well behaved, yet they’re still kids, with all the creativity that comes with discovering the world as they grow up. The Flys have done a great job of raising their larvae.

          • daisy

            Oh , so they have met in in RL. I just assumed it was a computer romance .

            • Baby

              HowdyCon sweetie

            • Missionary Kid

              If you’ve seen the HowdyCon pictures, they’re the ones that took turns wearing the shark costume.

            • daisy

              I was actually kidding because the couple talk to each other on this blog. I saw the kids pictures at Howdycon, they were adorable.

            • Missionary Kid

              I B 2 serious. 😛

            • Baby

              apparently me too Kid.. Jeeze.

            • daisy

              It had more to do with the joke than the interpretation.

            • Baby

              hahahhaha Boo Hiss.. xox

            • Baby

              The whole Fam Damily is Adorable!

              You know we don’t allow kidding here Miss Daisy! f5

            • Fly Lady

              sometimes it is.

    • daisy

      So much fun . I am jealous. I would be intimidated preparing lunch for you, good for Fly .

      • Supper Powers

        Supper Powers is about the people you break bread with. In this case it was fucking delicious, too.

    • Fly Lady

      I am sorry I missed you, maybe we’ll take you up on your offer to visit your place! all the bunker types I’ve met thus far have been great, except one. And “they” know who “they” are. ;… fly baby says thanks for the bracelet. p.s. fly keeps complaining that his organs have been pushed “out of place”, any idea on how to fix him?

      • Supper Powers

        Please come visit! Would be good to have you. As for fixing that Fly, use a swatter on him and hope for the best!

      • Missionary Kid

        A Lego surgeon can do it.

    • Baby

      Oh how fun Supper.. I love when Bunkers meet in RL.. Always a treat!

  • Fink Jonas

    “This should be your decision not your wife”……….they already 3rd partying them to try to split them apart, already being so authoritarian and they guy hasn’t even agree to be indoctrinated, Scientology has no respect for any human life.
    On the complain #14 they call them straight up “a cult” , I never seen a court document before that calls them a cult straight up, Scientology is gonna complain big time about that one; “we are the fastest coolest growing ‘religion’ in the world” we are not a cult, oh gosh I can hear the cries already.

    • Baby

      I know Fink..that is a scream.. I wish I could have seen DM’s reaction when he saw that..hahhaha

      • Fastest groaning!

        • Baby

          hahahah I just got this.. I’m slow this morning..

  • dchoiceisalwaysrs

    It appears that 1964 and its revisions up until 1991 of the CRA were very good years. Too bad Orwell didn’t title his book Jan 24,1986 also instead of 1984. Is dead,deceased and shedding the mortal coil the same kinda win as freedom is delusion? Apparently only the individuals attainment of OTV will tell.

  • Qbird

    I wonder how many ppl Blackstone Medical Services has helped?
    Are there a lot of testimonials on their site?
    :::My ‘puter gives fair warning:::

    Went to FB, but really, there is not a lot there… only one testimonial…
    that’s kinda weird.

    • Qbird

      crap, I didn’t mean for this to be so big, my apologies, bunker.

      • Baby

        Oh Q.. We old people out here ..the bigger the better!

      • Franklin Adams

        Looks normal sized to me Qbird.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      I wonder if that would be more accurate in its advice to say…’…you not proceed NOR try again later if that is what they actually mean?

      • Franklin Adams

        Its clunky. The whole statement is.

        They actually mean try again later, because it could be a false positive. It probably isn’t, they’re probably flinging bad code or malware either through their ad provider, an intentional compromise by a hacker, or poor design that’s being flagged as malware.

    • It’s possible for this kind of malware to be added to sites by third parties who have (for example) broken the administrative password and gained covert access to the site.

      The other alternative is that it was deliberately installed by the owner to compromise other computers.

      Considering the character of the site owner, either is possible. However, I doubt he’s smart enough to deal with malware, and it’s more likely he just used an easily broken password and got hacked.

      The rules are, at least 8 characters including upper case letter, lower case letters, numbers and special characters. Absolutely no dictionary words. Ideally use a random string of characters.

  • Baby

    I was watching videos on youtube and on the right hand side it says

    RECOMMENDED FOR YOU: ” Battlefield Earth ”

    I am still laughing..

  • OOkpik
  • Er… the complaint reads, “COMES NOW the paintiff, DAVID BUNTING […] by and through her undersigned counsel.

    her undersigned counsel?!

    • Graham

      Something for Scientology to use when they appeal. “Your Honor, the complaint contained errors, so is thus invalid.”

    • Franklin Adams

      All he has to do is say something kind of stupid, like he identifies as a woman on the first Wednesday of the month every other month, and its all good. A court’s not even gonna touch that lest it set some sort of precedent.

      I doubt that even a Florida court would toss a case or allow an appeal over an error like that since it has nothing to do with the facts of the case. Then again, its a Florida court, they do very dumb things sometimes.

      • I thought at first it was some kind of legal convention where the state is feminine… but no, there it is, the plaintiff David Bunting is referred to as “her”.

        My concern is that, although no court in their right mind would entertain argument about an obvious typo, that’s not going to stop Scientology lawyers abusing the process to achieve their favourite outcome – another pointless, expensive delay.

        • Franklin Adams

          I’m sure they’ll try it, no judge will go for it (outside of Pinellas County anyway), But my idea about self-identification could definitely head it off before they even try it. Might raise an eyebrow from the bench, but they’ve likely heard weirder.

          ETA: This is Civil Rights, so its a US court. Didn’t notice that at first. Different ballgame there. Not sure what I’d do actually.

  • Well folks, here we goats again, and wtf is with that fugly pink blazer? (oh sorry, ‘salmon’)? Does scientology do this to peoples, like suck all manner of style or taste out of your very soul? Man that is just so weird. Did someone say Cardone-clone? Ugh. Plaintiff should have done his homework, defendant reeks like every shill cult sucks in, anyone check and see if this a ‘WISE’ enterprise? Would not surprise me in the least if it was. No doubt we’ll see more of this sort of action somewhere down the twisted road of fated cult over, and over again, joyful like food poisoning, the gifts that keep on giving… iya.

  • littlefish

    oh my god his self made memes. he’s like michael scott. let me put something vaguely inspirational on a photo of me. what a ding dong.

  • Gus_Cox

    Oh, gawwddd. What a douchebag. He and Cardone should be butt buddies.

  • Kristen

    For some reason, my brain keeps screaming “GIGANTIC DOUCHE!!!”. Wonder why that is?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Mine too.

  • joryGKenneth

    I puke when I come across people like Tipnes.