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Scientology buys ‘.org’ and ‘.net’ sites to battle anti-disconnection billboard in Los Angeles

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Twice, the Church of Scientology managed to head off Phil and Willie Jones as they attempted to get a billboard put up in Los Angeles about the organization’s toxic “disconnection” policy. The couple, former church members who live in Las Vegas, signed contracts with Outfront Media and Regency Outdoor, but both caved to pressure from Scientology and rescinded the contracts at the last minute.

Phil and Willie pressed ahead, and found a third company, Lamar, that was willing to post their message on a billboard in the Echo Park section of Los Angeles. The billboard was put up Monday morning, and then a media frenzy descended on the couple as they held a dedication ceremony on Wednesday. The billboard simply asks Scientologists to call their loved ones, in defiance of disconnection.

And now, we learn that Scientology had a backup plan while it was trying to keep the billboard from going up. Phil and Willie’s billboard directs people to a website they set up to discuss disconnection. Its URL is StopScientologyDisconnection.com. But last night, Phil realized that Scientology has bought up the same URL — with the suffixes .org and .net — in order to catch web surfers who type in the wrong thing.

Although the ownership of the alternate sites is hidden behind a proxy, the content of the websites makes it clear that it’s Scientology who owns them — they link to the main scientology.org mothership. Both website domains were purchased late in the evening of February 29 — the day the billboard reached its funding goal after we first posted news about the project and our readers helped raise the first $10,000.

The Scientology site mimics the style of the Jones billboard, as you can see above, with portraits of Scientologists and, instead of “Call me,” the words “Meet us.”

Clicking on the portraits takes you to a page at the scientology.org site where you can watch video testimonials that Scientology began making in 2009.

Clicking on the “What is Disconnection” header takes you to a page at scientology.org that lays out Scientology’s argument that disconnection is voluntary, and a sensible thing to do in the face of antagonism from someone.

But hundreds of Scientologists who have left the organization in recent years tell us that disconnection is a ruthless tool used to enforce discipline. If you fall afoul of leader David Miscavige and his dictatorial rule, you may find your family ripped apart as the church demands that members cut off all ties from a person declared “suppressive.”

The examples are voluminous, but one of the best was the document that Sara Goldberg presented to Tampa Bay Times reporter Joe Childs, and then to documentary maker Alex Gibney for his film Going Clear.

Sara’s son, Nick Lister, had been declared suppressive because he had associated with one of the church’s enemies, former spokesman Mike Rinder. But Sara sent a letter to the church’s “International Justice Chief,” Mike Ellis, explaining that her son had problems and she really needed to take care of him. Ellis told her he couldn’t approve it. She would need to disconnect if she wanted to stay in contact with her daughter, who was very loyal to the church. Here, see for yourself…

 
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Let us translate for you: “You cannot see or talk to your own son.”

The Church of Scientology forced Sara Goldberg to choose between her two children. She refused to give up on her son, and so she was declared suppressive, and her daughter then disconnected from her.

Scientologists and their families face this Orwellian nightmare every day. If they dare to question the church in any way, they may find their family ripped apart.

Another amazing example we provided here at the Underground Bunker: You can actually hear it as a woman, Sylvia DeWall, is told that she’s being kicked out of Scientology because she admitted to watching Leah Remini on Dancing with the Stars, and she watched a Lawrence Wright interview. She tells the young ethics officer that getting kicked out of the church will cause her marriage to split up, because her husband was a loyal Scientologist. The young ethics executive tells her she needs to answer for her actions.

These are not unusual cases. They happen in Scientology every day. And that’s why Phil and Willie Jones wanted to raise awareness about disconnection with a billboard not far from the church buildings where young people work around the clock for pennies an hour, cut off from friends and family and the outside world.

Phil tells us he noticed pretty early on that the alternate URLs had been purchased by someone, so he kept checking to see if anything would be done with them…

When I registered the StopScientologyDisconnection.com site I had the thought that I should register the .org and .net as well because it would be just like Scientology to scoop them up for their own opposing use. At the time, though, we were running on fumes, so I just did the .com site. It was only about a week or at most two weeks and the other two were purchased under hidden domain ownership. I kind of figured it must be Scientology but there was no way to know for sure.

I kept checking periodically to see what might be put up there. After a while I thought maybe they just took them so that I couldn’t have them. Then today I did one of my periodic checks and bingo, there was Scientology in all its glory.

As frustrating as it might be I don’t think it really makes much of a difference. The few people who end up going there won’t ever likely go into an Org or join Scientology.

On the other side of the coin it’s just great fodder for us to point out how Scientology spends time and money to try to cover up their dark practices like disconnection.

Scientology’s response to the news explosion this past week isn’t making a difference. Most news sites print the Scientology statement verbatim, but some of them vetted our statements before airing. Even so there isn’t one person who has said, “Well, the Scientology statement sure makes sense. I think I’ll side with them”. All the feedback we’ve gotten has been very positive and supportive. Our message is definitely getting out there.

Here’s what Phil’s actual website looks like…

 
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THE BILLBOARD TIMELINE

January 31: We reveal that Phil Jones — known as “Sid” here in the Bunker — has been working with a TV production company while he tries to reach his disconnected kids.
February 28: We post a notice about Phil’s GoFundMe page to raise money for the billboard. When the story hits at 7 am, there is $70 in the kitty.
February 29: Less than 24 hours after we posted the notice, our readers have helped surpass the original goal of $8,200 — the billboard is funded.
March 2: Phil announces that he’s signed a three-month contract with Outfront Media for the billboard, and he tells us that he’s thinking of having some kind of dedication event.
March 5: Outfront Media’s New York office cancels the contract that its Los Angeles office had signed. Phil vows to find another company.
March 9: Phil tells us that Regency Outdoor has signed a contract and the billboard will be on Hollywood Blvd, just a block from David Miscavige’s personal office and residence.
March 12: We identify Scientology’s media buyer who is trying to derail the billboard.
March 15: Regency Outdoor now caves as well in the face of the pressure being put on by Scientology.
April 4: Lamar Media puts up the billboard on Glendale Avenue in Echo Park.
April 6 is the Wednesday when Phil and Willie hold their dedication ceremony and the press shows up in droves.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 9, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback and Kindle editions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Skabetti

    Mark Bunker update just now on his film project:
    https://www.gofundme.com/828upves?viewupdates=1&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cta_button&utm_campaign=upd_n

    Whoops. Looks like Vaquera beat me to this (below). And I don’t know how to remove a comment here, so it’s a repeat. Goodnight and hugs, all.

    • Qbird

      no need to delete this link or post, I missed Vaquera’s post.
      but if you want to… click the edit on your post, highlight it, then, oh, whatever you want, leave a dot or 2 or a note. Pretty easy Skebetti. Click save edit.

      • Skabetti

        TX.

        • Qbird

          gotta leave a dot, dear, then save, et voila.

          • Skabetti

            Note to self–A dot. Okay, a DOT.

            • Qbird

              try it… go up to that last comment, highlight & delete everything but the “Thanks”.
              Tks will be dot.
              eta: then refresh — comment will change.

            • Skabetti

              Will do. I just tried to add pink marshmallow bunnies as my avatar. CAn you see it?

            • Robert Eckert

              Marshmallow bunnies, ack. There is no need to delete repeat comments especially about important things: now that there are usually a thousand comments every day, lots of people miss things and are grateful if you put them up top again.

            • Qbird

              I see it! Yay!

            • Skabetti

              OK, good (and the dot doesn’t go away, right?).

            • Qbird

              right. now F5. Tah Dah!

            • Baby

              Oh so cute.. love the color!

        • Qbird

          ya done did it! Now, don’t worry ’bout editing. πŸ˜›

    • Baby

      Ska… I missed Vaquera’s so all is good..thank you..

  • Observer

    I wonder how many calls Lamar has received so far…

    • Dice

      Thats right… I will start up my Call Center πŸ™‚

    • They did post CALL ME.

      • Observer

        TouchΓ©!

      • Dice

        you have a link? been looking at their sites but haven’t seen any signs – so to speak!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Dodo means the billboard itself, Dice. He’s making a little jokey joke.

          • Dice

            Ahh! of course. DOH! bed-time…

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Thanks for the hard work, Dice.

      • MaxSpaceman

        by Chris Montez ? or by Blondie …

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I’d love a post on whatever has transpired.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    OT. This commercial interruption has been brought to by……me. Yes folks, the full album is almost here. Been almost a year since we were in London, but the record label asked for MORE songs recently, so we wait until those are complete.

    https://youtu.be/FCw0uQQJQog

    • salin

      Cool ‘commercial break’. Fernando has an impressive range. The video is a great teaser for the release. Kudos – Well Done.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Thank you…although, I’ve only been there as cheerleader on this one. Lot’s of other folks doing the long hours in sessions.

    • MaxSpaceman

      the man’s a great tenor

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        He’s getting there, isn’t he? I can remember the first time I ever saw him perform. Singing off of a balcony at the Portofino Bay Hotel at Universal Studios. That was about 10 years ago. Ha! Gotta start somewhere. He’s really worked his ass off for it.

        • MaxSpaceman

          are you an engineer on the recordings?

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            I don’t engineer anymore. Used to…..

            Now, I just bring the pom poms and cheer. Maybe jazz hands if appropriate.

    • Baby

      Oh buddy.. thank you for sharing.. I know that you are so proud of this project.. Fabulous singer.. He is so personable and very handsome..

      David Foster.. well that’s the ticket, eh?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Yeah, big time if David Foster likes you, huh? My step mom just about melted at Fernando’s concert a few months ago. She was crying tears of joy as she described how much his music meant to her….that got him crying. It was wonderful!

        How’re you, Baby? Rodents all taken care of yet?

        • Baby

          Awww sweet mama..

          Thank God Yes.. Hubby crawled under deck../ house today.. to take measurements of something..( God Knows) and he said all is clear.. and OMG knock on wood.. Good Bye!

          I finally calmed down.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Hooray!

          • Aslan’s Own

            I’m SO happy to hear that. You handled it a lot better than I would have!

            • Baby

              Uh.. No I didn’t Pie Lion.. I trapped myself in the office..crying, screaming.. like a maniac.. almost made my hubby sale the house.. and I still get spooked when I go into the kitchen..

              and my eyes go right to the spots I saw it.. and I still don’t open the cupboards and dishwasher even though they are blocked…

              Should I go on? I would have left, but company was on the way… xo

            • Aslan’s Own

              I absolutely do remember that, and I was cringing just reading it. I can’t even imagine. I think I meant that I would have probably moved to another state to get away or something. I wasn’t thinking too clearly. It was 3:30 am, and a couple of hours before that my mother had called me aout an emergency with my brother. and I was waiting for a call back, so I came to the Bunker to take my mind off of it while I waited. )

            • Baby

              When I said ” NO I didn’t ” I meant.. you and I would have handled it the same..ha.. I’m sorry about the emergency honey.. xo

            • Aslan’s Own

              Oh! I read it completely differently so I’m glad you cleared it up. I was afraid that maybe I had sort of offended you by minimizing your experience (which I totally don’t!!!) Like I said I would have gotten in my car at the first sighting and kept driving until someone I trust gave me the all clear…and even then, I’m not sure I’d come back! And I’m pretty much the same with cockroaches (which I know they give a very pretty name to down there, but they’re still gross!).

            • Baby

              Me offended by you? OMG.. NEVER.. My daughter is absolutely freaked out by the ” Palmetto ” bugs.. Yep.. cockroaches x47 ugh..

            • Aslan’s Own

              Oh good. You were so kind to me when I first started commenting and you were “Glibby” — you completely cracked me up (and continue to do so — I LOVE your posts) but I’ve also come to see how incredibly compassionate, empathetic, and authentic you are. I can’t wait to meet you some time – hopefully soon – and share a pie (pies??) together. But not in your house, unless I see some sort of notarized document from the exterminator!! πŸ˜‰ xoxoxo

              ETA: Turns out my brother has congestive heart failure and a-fib. Heart cath tomorrow. I think he’s much sicker than any of us (including him) realized.

            • Baby

              Oh sweetie.. sending prayers..positive energy your brother’s way..that is some scary shit..I’m sorry..

              You are so sweet honey.. thank you for your kind words.. One day we will meet.. No more pies for awhile for me.. Good God whenever company arrives I gain 2# a day..

              You know Key lime Pie is Florida’s thing and everyone asks for it..

              Exterminator is coming thurs I think for our yearly ant remedy.. I will get him notarized for you..hahaha Love you Pie Lion.. xo baby

            • Aslan’s Own

              No pie for me, either. I’ve just gained back 20 of the 30 pounds I lost last year…… πŸ™

            • Baby

              ugh.. I am so hungry right now.. tired of salads.. sigh

            • Aslan’s Own

              I am too. I’ve been trying to eat a lot of fresh fruit, but I really fell off the wagon. When I’m extremely anxious and depressed, I eat the way alcoholics drink.

            • Baby

              You should have seen me during the ” R word ” Fiasco.. Dairy Queen Blizzards all day every day.. ( Fer Realz)

              Lion .. I have really been in a slump lately.. like the way you described not that long ago.. I hate it.. Not as bad tonight.. but this past week was horrible. sigh ; /

            • Aslan’s Own

              I’m so sorry to hear you’re depressed. It’s the pits. I’m convinced that depression and anxiety rank right up there with other serious diseases, and the hard thing is that a lot of people don’t “get it” and think the person is just being lazy or choosing to feel that way. Who in the world would choose to feel like that?? Do you feel like it’s situational, or maybe the meds aren’t working as well? (Please don’t answer if you feel that’s too personal and it’s really none of my business.) I used to work for NAMI so I got used to being with people who just openly talked about things like that, and I even told my story to cops, med school and nursing students ,nursing staff, and college, high school and middle school kids. If someone had told me that I would publicly be talking about the worst times of my life, I would have said THEY needed help!

              I totally get the Dairy Queen. I have Binge Eating Disorder, (just the latest of the ED’s I’ve had during my life) and I gain about 10 pounds a month during those times. Among MANY other things like multiple cheesecakes, frozen pizza, gallons of ice cream, cookies, etc. coffee cakes and anyhing else you can possibly imagine, I used to go to a premium ice cream place and buy TWO large chocolate malts or hot fudge sundaes and pretend one was for someone else, and then just take them home and eat them. Then that made me hate myself more than I did, which perpetuated the cycle.

              So I TOTALLY get it. If it helps to talk about it (even to a stanger who’s a lion) I can give you my email and/or phone number and I’d be happy to do what I can, even just listen. I promise I’m not OSA. xoxoxo

            • Baby

              I swear we are to peas in a pod.. I led discussion groups through NAMI.. I was working in Mental Health.. I have always had anxiety, but the depression came after Jude died.

              Now it is happening more often .. My youngest daughter is a Narcissist and I see that it is affecting my grandchildren. I would love your e mail.. I am not one to talk on phone.

              I don’t think my meds are working as well as they did either.. I gotta check with my Dr. about that..

              I know you have the ” Funk Days..” I’m like feeling detached .. and a pervasive sadness. If I had a choice I would sleep all day.. but don’t.. but I would.

              I think the real problem is..That if I took medication to take the sadness away I would be a total zombie. So therein lies the problem.

              I continue to be steeped deeply in grief.. and attempting to appear normal, but it is such an effort lately.

              I wouldn’t wish Anxiety and Depression on anyone. Thanks for listening..

              Oh you know I’m right with you in the Binge eating desserts.. Gah..I always had that problem. So I’ve learned to live with it. I space it out a lot..

              I will eat a large pizza by myself and everyone knows it.. but the next day I watch it.. for a week.. and then.. Bam.. Katie Bar the door..

              But I don’t worry about it.. It’s the anxiety and depression that I have to cope with. sigh.. love baby

            • Aslan’s Own

              I remember you talking about your twin’s death and how it affected you and I felt (and feel) so sad for you. The grief must be almost unbearable. I know how exhausting it is to try to hide it and appear “normal.” I’ve lived trying to do that and finally it got so bad I couldn’t even pretend anymore. It has gotten so bad that I can’t even look for work, so there are times where I do just lie on the couch in sweats, sleep as an escape, don’t leave the house for days, etc. Unfortunately, it’s easier b/c I live by myself.

              You led groups with NAMI! We are in the same pod! I worked there for 5 years and would have stayed forever except our new Exec. Dir. was a really malignant narcissist and my friend and I were her targets because she came in knowing nothing and we’d been there for years and knew a lot. She made our lives so miserable that we would end up crying and it got to where I was having panic attacks just walking into the office. I had to go into an IOP Anxiety program for a month — I felt like I should have filed for workmen’s comp because it was mostly because of her. For our own mental health we had to leave. Ironic that she was leading NAMI. She had no interest or knowledge of mental health – she just wanted the “prestige” of being the Exec. Dir. of something. Horrible.

              Please feel free to email. I’m at maryd717 at comcast dot net.

              A lot of the words might not apply to you but this picture reminds me of our attempts to appear like everything’s OK but under the surface there’s deep pain.

            • Baby

              Well.. You get me, Pie.. I haven’t been the same since the R word trauma. I will e mail you..thank you xoxo love baby ( Love the FINE)

            • Aslan’s Own

              I love the FINE picture too. It really captures it.

              I was at the hospital all day today – my brother went in for a cardiac cath to see if they would put a stent in, but it turns out he’s got two arteries that are almost completely blocked, so he needs a double bypass. He’s very high risk because of diabetes, kidney problems, HBP which has cause pulmonary hypertension, etc. etc.

              Also, he really wasn’t “waking up” from the anesthesia in the time frame he should have been. Turned out he had too much CO2 in his blood so they were trying to fix that.
              When I left this afternoon the doctor said that he might not even be accepted for a bypass because of his high risk, so it was seeming a little bleak.

              I called his room a few hours later and he was very alert, had had dinner, and the doctor came in and said he had to have a double bypass, so yay! Normally wouldn’t be happy he has to have bypasses, but the alternative wouldn’t have been good.

              Anyway, sorry for all the off-topic stuff. My mind and emotions have been all over the place today and I’m in that exhausted but wired place.

              Please do email me whenever you want to. I’d love to hear from you any time and we can encourage each other.

            • Baby

              Oh sweet Pie.. long, long day.. sigh.. Yay is right.. just said a prayer for him..

              Yes I will.. I had a better day today.. I made myself get up and put make up on and combed my hair and got dressed.. That is moving forward..xoxo love me..

              ( Yes, we will be good support..)

            • Aslan’s Own

              I’m glad you had a better day. I really do know what an effort it takes just to get up and get dressed so that’s great! And I’m REALLY impressed with the make up!! πŸ™‚ I think you’ll be able to help me with that!!

            • Baby

              Yes.. I have been so distracted lately to e mail.. sorry pie.. I’ve been watching Netflix lately and it’s on my computer.. but Yes.. and today I went on a bike ride from .. 6-8:30 .. to get out of house..

              and it has improved my mood. No boxers on until I get home from bike ride.. and up and showered.

            • Aslan’s Own

              Wow! Good for you! You’re doing a lot better than I am in that respect.

              I’d be a lot better off if the internet (and Netflix) hadn’t been invented — or if someone physically prevented me from using them! I have no self-discipline right now, and that’s what I use to escape…

            • Baby

              I love Netflix, TV and internet.. yes I can escape for hours..

              I literally have to say.. ” Take a shower.. get dressed.. brush teeth..
              when I’m really bad or I don’t do it.. and cocoon on the couch and pig out..

              But I am working every day to be somewhat productive .. because of hubby.. He works almost daily and it’s not fair to come home to a woman who doesn’t work outside the house ..or in..

              So I really really try.. even when I don’t want to. xo

            • Aslan’s Own

              You’re doing better than I am! I need to list out the things I’m going to do and then check them off. I don’t do well without structure…… πŸ™

            • Baby

              I woke up at 6 PM if that tells you how I’m doin.. smooches.

            • Aslan’s Own

              Oh dear. I would have too except I had to get up and meet an old college friend early this a.m. I was starting to fall asleep when I got back around noon, but I didn’t want to sleep through church, so I set an alarm and then didn’t fall asleep anyway. πŸ™

            • Baby

              well at least you made an effort to see an old friend..that is good.. and church..

              I did nothing..ha.. but I was in a sugar coma.. Made Carmel Corn last night until I literally passed out from sugar.. Ugh.. so today I getting rid of sugar in my system.

              Hubby is a terrible saboteur.. he said when I woke up.. ” There’s tin roof sundae ice cream in fridge I brought home for you today.. ” ugh..

            • Aslan’s Own

              Man, we really are two peas in a pod. I was in a sugar coma this afternoon after I saw my friend. I haven’t had any sugar for a year b/c that’s a gateway drug for me! But I’ve been bingeing on other things and a week or so ago I got back into sugar in a BIG way and now I can’t stop. Today, chocolate, candy, etc. It’s bad enough that I get it for myself – I’d weigh 500 pounds if I had someone else bring it into the house!!

    • Snippy_X

      Wow – beautiful!

    • Linda Clement

      What a wonderful voice! Every note seems to issue straight from the heart. I love these songs, and the band’s musicianship is first-rate. Please let us know when the CD is available. ^^^^^^^

    • Juicer77

      Woo hoo! How amazing is this voice…

    • Aslan’s Own

      I could listen that aria all day every day.

    • daisy

      I am still not exactly sure what your role in this music is ? Not sure what cheerleader means.. Is he a friend , work mate , relative ? The man has wonderful voice. I hope to hear more. As a Canadian , we are so proud to claim David Foster as one of our national treasures. If they have his backing I am sure we will hear more in the future. I cannot wait to claim I know you. I am joking I already claim I know you. Sincerely well done.

  • Dice

    This is from one of my Co-tweeter @shast

    “It’s a sad man my friend who’s living in his own skin, and can’t stand the company. B.Springsteen”

    It does gives association to our friend – DM

  • Dice

    Haven’s seen Fred G. Haseney posting his blog here today, but someone tweeted his excellent photo-story on the billboard. So let’s have sneak preview https://jennyatlax.wordpress.com/2016/04/09/reconnecting-the-disconnected-and-declared-call-me/

    • MaxSpaceman

      Stellar report from Field Ops, Fred G. Haseney presiding.

    • Baby

      I just posted on his blog.. asking him if he notified Tony concerning his fabulous pictures and on the ground reporting.. Thanks Dice.

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      Great report.

      • Baby

        It is isn’t it.. I am just in a great mood Phil.. Their foot bullets just continue.. They do NOT learn anything from their mistakes.. Gah..

        You and Willie make the cutest couple. You’ve been together for a long time, eh..? I’m sure it hasn’t been easy…sigh.. but your love has stood the test of time. Congrats.

        • Sid (Phil Jones)

          Together since August 9, 1972. She has a great tolerance for bad humor. I think she laughs at me laughing at myself more than at my terrible jokes.

          • Baby

            Hahahha.. She must be related to my hubby..ha.. Long time..

    • Juicer77

      So great – extra special kudos to Fred for talking to the people stuck in traffic, explaining what was going on.

  • Matt Charman

    The most common errors are typing in .com instead of .org or .net – far less likely to do the reverse. Even the auto-complete on Internet Explorer etc. tries .com first. If Co$cientology want to waste their money on domains that will get zero traffic, all I can say to that is “LOL!!”

    Meanwhile, the billboard is cool! πŸ˜€

    Got to wonder though… isn’t the Co$ ripping off of the billboard imagery a breach of copyright, or Intellectual Property? πŸ˜‰

    • Dice

      been thinking that too and contacted a lawyer about it. Waiting for an answer on Monday.

      • LongtimeLurker

        I would love to see Warner Bros, Sony, DC, Marvel and Fox rip the crap out of them for all those times they use copyrighted illustrations of proprietary superhero characters on their crappy fliers.

        • daytoncapri

          Hmmm…now that would a diversion of Scn’n attention. Might be useful in the narrative to the public of what they are trying to pull with the billboard. Might even inspire Warner Bros et al to take a serious look.

        • Dice

          I agree – they are using their property in a commercialized way and should be reported like someone did once here, when they where using VM and a NGO logo (can’t remember what NGO) and “she” did get a positive response!

    • Qbird

      Yeah, ripping off other’s creativity & designs is par for the course.
      booby-heads

    • daytoncapri

      Once, I had advocated scarfing up the alternate domain addresses at my place of work. We investigated and decided it really was not worth the time and trouble. We were fine with dot com.

  • Baby

    It is time for a beautiful Bunker song.. well, Our Official Theme Song by Hole.. and Company ( Mr. Hole and LWrong) .. We’ve had a good day.. Scn. Ain’t got nothing on Bunker Love..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThyMMoOVDyw&list=UUOTK4ae6wrPbRbYynM95mjA

    • Baby

      Yes I upvoted this.. I love it… ( Plus it helps my ratio..)

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Ha! You’re funny, but looks don’t count for everything.

        • Baby

          OMG.. you put the corn in Corny.. Jeeze.. Hardy har har..

      • LongtimeLurker

        My ratio is Pi. How’m I doin’?

        • Baby

          PIE is better…

  • madame duran

    Dear Media Reporters,
    Two things I need to get off my chest regarding the news coverage I’ve seen (thus far) on the billboard:
    1. Stop describing the sign as an “anti-Scientology” billboard. It’s an “anti-disconnection” billboard. The “Call Me” message, while in defiance of Scientology’s disconnection policy, doesn’t call for Scientology’s destruction nor does it dictate what its adherents should believe. The goal is to restore family communication. How is it anti-religious to desire or strengthen family relations? Would it be “anti-Catholic” for Catholics to befriend lapsed relatives/friends or non-Catholics? Of course not. I have yet to see the numerous demands for reform within the Catholic Church referred to by mainstream media as “anti-Catholic”. So why are criticisms of Scientology labeled as such?
    2. Stop overusing the word “controversial”. How is asking your children to contact you a violation of community standards or sets off a firestorm of divided public opinion? Scientology’s “disconnection”, on the other hand, has caused many real-life family breakups which led to long lasting emotional/psychological damage to thousands of people. The billboard is bringing attention to the controversial church practice of shunning. Is this approach UNCONVENTIONAL? Yeah, you can say that. But “controversial” to speak out on abuse? There are bigger issues, people and news topics that are more shocking than the words “Call Me”.

    • Baby

      f5

    • FredEX2

      One of the very best comments on the forum today. So well said!

    • Skabetti

      Hear, hear!

    • TexasBroad

      “Controversial” drove me crazy too!

    • Graham

      Well said. WTF is “controversial” about asking to connect to a loved one?

  • nobodyfromnowhere01

    To Tony, Phil and Willie and all the wonderful people on this site. I have been a long time reader (since the Village Voice days) and of course, the Underground Bunker. I have never posted because I didn’t think I had the right to do so. Please let me explain! My only experiences with this cult were back in the mid 80’s in Australia. My (then bf) now husband and I walked in once, after having seen a ‘free intelligence test’ sign (it could have been a personality test, but at this moment I really do not remember). I remember being asked questions and holding the cans, and watching the needle flip. Geez….when I think NOW how silly I was! I actually believed that machine could read my mind. All I can say is this – if I wasn’t so deathly afraid of getting the crap beaten out of me by my father – and if I had the cash – I probably would have joined. They just looked so happy (as compared to my miserable) and I wanted some of it. My hubby even bought me a paperback copy of their book – uggh, I was so bored, I couldn’t get passed the first few pages!!!
    Fast forward to now….
    In 1995 my father survived a heart attack. In 2009 I lost him – he was assaulted at the age of 74, and died of his injuries. Our relationship had improved 99 percent in the interim – I still ‘feared’ him, but it was fear of losing him to his bad heart. So I kept my mouth shut. I no longer had a ‘father’, I had a ‘dad’, and it was amazing.
    Which brings me to the reason why I am posting today…
    This disconnection sign, Willie and Phil, and all the folks who are desperate to see their loved ones, is doing my head in. When my dad died, my mother and sibling basically turned their backs on me. My dad was always there for me, if I needed any help with my son – I could call on him any time and he would be there. (My son has been living with chronic illness and disability, and I have been his primary carer for 21 years – it’s his birthday to day and it’s just me, daddy and my him, no-one else). When I asked my brother for help, he told me – and I quote – ‘you got to be fucking kidding me, go hire someone’. My mother basically called on her poor nerves card – it has been a lifelong thing with her, but it stings badly now.
    To the disconnected – please, please, please ring your family. I would do anything to see my dad again. Anything. Don’t leave it to late – they won’t be around forever – if they have gone to so much trouble to get a hold of you, they are doing it for a reason….THEY LOVE YOU

    • LongtimeLurker

      Hey, welcome. There’s caek and a wombat snuggle pit somewhere. Also a nail gun and I think a bar. I’ve been away and they’ve moved stuff, but ask around, you’ll find what you need.

      I’m glad you connected with your dad, I missed that opportunity.

      iirc, in the 80s in Aus they were using “personality test” or at least that was the case at their Russell St Org in Melbourne.

      • daytoncapri

        Good to see you LL. You have been missed.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Aw schucks. Thanks.

          How have you been?

          • daytoncapri

            Me?..doing great, finding humor, smiling, healthy…no Scientology in my life now.

            The wife and I recently had breakfast with the wife of our fair-gamed friend.
            She and her husband are separated for awhile, but not forever. She is ok, he is not. She misses him terribly. Sad, persistent topic.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Dammit. Sorry to hear about your friends.

    • TexasBroad

      Welcome! Life if funny. Glad you bypassed the COS, very glad you had your “Dad” (Anyone can be a father, it is something else to be a dad), and very glad you popped in! Now that you’ve ventured in, be sure to come back. πŸ™‚
      ETA: When I replied, your post didn’t have the last two paragraphs (Dis-sucks), so I wanted to add that I’m sorry for your pain and thank you for your comment — love IS the reason Phil and Willie push forward and also the reason any response or reaction by COS falls so flat. Happy Birthday to your son!

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      I totally get this. The last few years when my mom was still around I was glad to be able to tell her we were done with Scientology. We had a great relationship for those last few years before she passed away. I treasure them. Good for you for ‘having a dad’ after all those years.

    • phoebequeen

      Oh hon. So glad to see you post now. I was a lurker for years too. A story about disconnection had tears down my face as I posted for first time last year. I was never in and didn’t feel I had right either. But, we are all here for each other to learn and support .
      Happy Birthday to your son. As a mom, it is hard for me to understand putting others before my son. Never . My be so hard.
      Glad you repaired your relationship with your dad. It is so important to do. I know of this myself. Please stick around. Great people here as I am sure you already know.

    • OOkpik

      You are definitely a Somebody and as worthy and welcome as anybody to be here.
      Thanks for sharing your story. I’m sorry for the hardships you have endured and that your mom and brother remain distant. I hope that will change for the better. ((hugs)) .
      Happy birthday to your son. He’s lucky to have his mom and dad in his life.

    • Juicer77

      Welcome, Nono. (I refuse to call you “nobody” πŸ™‚ Of course you have every right and are more than worthy to comment here. I’m glad you had those good last years with your dad. Happy birthday to your son, too!

    • Dice

      Thanks for posting this!

    • Qbird

      From long-time lurker to Nono,
      online with strangers in good company.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/729e302f48df2705aaec60291e5ef80d0fa78b6604b87f91e9764e26c5f9a26c.jpg

      A ballerina orchid for you & we’ll be seeing you around.

  • Baby

    night everyone..kick ass.. I have been here almost all day.. I am so excited that Scn.. continues the foot bullets..

    • TexasBroad

      Rockabye, sweet. Can’t wait to see what tomorrow brings.

      • Baby

        Oh Broad..sweet..I know.. I just woke up..ready to start the day… xo

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Oh, my! After viewing this photo of Miscavige at the Atlanta Ideal Org opening, I’m thinking if this CO$ gig falls apart, he could have a future as a “Price is Right” girl! πŸ™‚
    (refresh)

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Or a flight deck airman.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I love how he is a foot closer to the camera, trying not to appear as short as he really is. Hehe

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Don’t forget the 1.5″ of pompadour also.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            I wish I could forget it, but I can’t! πŸ˜‰

        • Susan B.

          But the perspective caused by him standing at that distance only makes the photo worse, distorted, like he’s a cartoon character or his image was pasted into the photo. How come I enjoy making fun of this guy and hearing others do the same????

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            I don’t quite understand that wide stance of his either (it does remind me of Larry Craig though). If I was a clam and got the “honor” of having my photo taken with The Big Cheese and this was the result, I’d be disappointed. No wonder they shoop the hell out of the official PR photos. The more candid the photo, the more he looks like a goofball.

            • LongtimeLurker

              The wide stance is to make you believe he has a large package. So you (not you specifically) will subconsciously start to think of him as an Alpha Male.

              I have no evidence of this, but I wouldn’t put it past him.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              David “Big Package” Miscavige? I doubt that very much. LOL

            • LongtimeLurker

              Omg, I missed that – it rhymes!

            • Draco

              My thoughts too πŸ™‚

    • Observer

      BAD TOUCH! BAD TOUCH!

    • Clown shoes detected.

    • hansje brinker

      If I am looking at a picture from Madame Tussauds. You know, that wax museum.

    • Snippy_X

      Do you know the name of the woman on the left? Latasha …

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Natasha Territo Manuel. She’s ED Foundation for Atlanta. Her son Devin and his fiance also are on staff there. His photo is shown in today’s Bunker.

        • Snippy_X

          Thank you. That’s very helpful.

  • Susan B.

    I have to say: the anti-scientology movement is awesome!!!!!!! You are all amazing!!!!!

    OSA: call HOME!!!!!!! Mom, Pop, Sis, Bro, the Dog, the Cat, Gram & Gramps, Uncle & Auntie, all of you Cousins –your people miss you!!!!!! There are holes in their hearts that only you can fill. You are special and unique!!!!!!

    • The hole does not exist.

      Uhm… wait….

      • Susan B.

        OK, let’s change that to “there are empty spaces in their hearts that only you can fill.” Better? : )

    • Dice

      I have a Cat with a Chip – I holds the password to all my accounts. I am so clever πŸ™‚ NOT?

      • Susan B.

        I don’t understand your reply. Did you intend it for me? Can you enlighten me? : )

        • Dice

          Sorry… it was joke based on your comment πŸ™‚ Pointing at OSA that probably would love to know where i keep my passwords by now. But i agree it did look a little odd. Thanks for your reply!

          • Susan B.

            : ) No worries. This place is a fun outlet for cleverness. Thanks for your reply to my reply. By the way, I still don’t get it. But I’m sleep deprived right now. I’ll check again tomorrow to see if I get it. lol.

  • Spike Robinson

    Good night, dear Bunker friends! I’m glad I chose to spend the day popping in more than I usually do … I must visit more often. I leave you with my ‘Disconnection’ song, in honor of Phil and Willie and with love to Max Spaceman (with a BIG hug), and to all of you, my favorite quote, ever:

    “A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.” ~Margaret Mead

    I love you all; thank you for being the wonderful creature that is the Bunker!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CN6btKuMAs&index=14&list=PL8j2WW1O3SCcG8LHm3FRplP-3CfLBxFLJ

    • phoebequeen

      Awww…

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Bwahaaahaa…”we will, we will defrock you, defrock you…we will, we will defrock you, defrock you.”

  • phoebequeen

    SOB! These sneaky , ass fuckers. Just when you think nothing this sleeze balls can do to shock and dismay, they come up with something brand new. In hindsight, how could we not see this one coming?

    • Simi Valley

      This is actually an old trick of theirs.

      • phoebequeen

        I know, I sometimes see a different web page when I type in Tony Ortega on bing. Sometimes, it’s the sciobots and they have “The truth about Tony Ortega.” I just laugh at their immature attempts. Their days are numbered.

        • Simi Valley

          Any lowlife cheesy disgusting thing you could possibly think of (and prolly some that you haven’t thought of) are not beneath them.

          • phoebequeen

            True dat. They are some of the vilest humans on earth.

            • Anonymouse

              But, but, but, aren’t they the most ethical people on earth??!!?? /sarcasm

  • LongtimeLurker

    Apologies if someone already said this.

    I wonder does Phil know that you can report them for “abuse”.

    Yes, it probably won’t work, but since it just requires an email and the evidence is pretty clear (visual similarity, similar wording, registration within a week of the original) it might be worth a shot.

    They’re registered by a proxy, but it’s through godaddy.com.

    The email is abuse@godaddy.com

    I mean, they probably won’t get taken down, but it might make a CoS staffer have a bad day responding to emails, get fed up with all the crap and blow.

    So that’d be worth it.

    • Dice

      I know about this abuse@ but it is for complaints about spamers and mallware and other nasty stuff i wont even describe her.
      There are other people who uses that option and you can see one group here http://www.senderbase.org/

      You can always report to the ISP but it has to be about breaking their rules, so if you read goddady’s set of rules and find a Β§ they are breaking or misuses we can report them.

      You can see some cases here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1266539

  • Newiga

    Chris Shelton has uploaded a new Critical Q&A video. Check it out. πŸ™‚ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE2jnX5rV6M

  • Graham

    Why does Scientology spend so much time, energy and money on distributing “The Way to Happiness” if it’s then going to ignore its words of wisdom?

    5. HONOR AND HELP YOUR PARENTS.

    In spite of all, one must remember that they are the only parents one has. And as such, no matter what, one should honor them and help them.

    The way to happiness includes being on good terms with one’s parents or those who brought one up.

    • hansje brinker

      That’s why it is a cult. Twisted and hypocritical.

    • richelieu jr

      You seem to have some major MUs there, @disqus_OYFT3FT1Fo:disqus ! Let me see if I can help!

      1) “Honor Them (with the hefty contribution of their retirement savings) to the IAS!

      2) HELP them (stay IN ETHICS by snitching constantly, even when there is nothing to say, just to keep them on their toes– REMEMBER– They’ll do the same for you!)

      REMEMBER– No rumour or slander is too little for CoB!

      (actually, not much is, really? He could have saved a bunch of dosh by outfitting his little CoBbies’ Dream House wit Barbie Furniture. The taste might be a bit upscale for him, but then again, there’s always JEM and Cyndie, right?

  • OOkpik

    Freedom of communication is essential for a rich and fulfilling life.
    stopscientologydisconnection.com

  • Fink Jonas

    I just can imagine the amount of pressure that Lamar Media most be getting from the mafia cult to put the sign down; probably law suit threats, bribery, injecting fear by telling them they will loose business since Scientology is so powerful they will influence every body in Hollywood not to do business with Lamar Media to… you loosing us as costumers and you know we pay boku cash for our ads, even if they don’t intend to use Lamar Media for anything. I love to be a fly on the wall just to hear what they saying.
    OSA must be spinning their heads to the point they will need a real exorcism not just BT exorcism but a real face spitting-cross -grabbing-priest-slapping exorcism.

  • Len Zinberg

    Scientology once again is behaving like the fascistic organization it really is; paying lip service to the concept of free speech while in actuality doing everything it can to silence its critics and subvert speech it fears.
    It’s been said that the remedy for bad speech is more speech. Scientology now has 2, count em, multi-million dollar media centers…every Scientology facility has dozens of interactive video screens from which pour endless Scientology propaganda, yet ONE BILLBOARD throws all of their massive plans for “planetary dissemination” right into the crapper!

    It would all be ludicrously funny, if it wasn’t so sad.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I am just curious to see if they will use the media centre to release anything to the public. The result of the two recent TV ads at Superbowl and Oscars had people going “What?”
      I can’t see how anything they do is going to go down any better.
      Just try to imagine a half hour show done by them on any topic. How are people not going to go WTF?

      • Len Zinberg

        My sense is that they’re relying on an assortment of front groups that stay far away from any mention the word “Scientology” as a recruitment tool. I don’t think they’re having much success, though.

  • xenuYESxenu

    Please somebody close to the Jones family help them with the logistics of their wonderful and very important media arrangements. The early announcement of the billboard contract was a really bad and crucial mistake. Not securing the most important domains for their website is the second dangerous stumble. They are up against the probably most ruthless and evil business in the world and they should not be alone with important decisions. I would be glad to do it, but I am an ocean away πŸ˜‰ Please form a group of volunteers around them to protect and to aid. All the best!

    • bonnydoe

      I think they handle everything outstanding πŸ™‚

    • Dice

      I understand your concern, but sometimes it’s a good idea just poking around and find out what works and then get organized. I don’t think there was a “master plan” in the beginning but it looks like one is forming and Phil is absolutely not disorganized and there are many people around that do their functions. But hey! i think you would understand that “who is who” and “who does what” is not being posted here! This is the Internet and it works in mysterious ways and is hard to predict. Anonymous was also not an “organized” group with a leader! But they are still out there!

      This video might explain what you see.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfoeFzCWrDE

      • Skabetti

        Fantastic! Music, too.

        • Susan B.

          That was mind blowing! Nature is miraculous. It was like looking at live micro-organisms under a microscope or some flowing gaseous formation in deep space. I once saw birds like that in Ohio flying in a wide band from one side of the sky as far as the eye could see to the other. I ran to describe it to a neighbor and she laughed because I was making absolutely no sense I was so flummoxed. : )

          • Skabetti

            Sometimes there are no words. You just have to experience the moment.

            • Susan B.

              Yup!

    • Skabetti

      Thanks for your concern and your caring heart. Obviously, you know the force P&W are dealing with. We have a sort of understanding here that we don’t criticize but support them. I think P&W are being careful, and there’s a lot going on behind the scenes we don’t know about. Any errors made initially ended up turning to their advantage. If P&W hadn’t announced their initial plans, we wouldn’t have seen the cherch block them twice before they were able to accomplish their goal. The media loved it! And they had to announce their plans for the final unveiling so people would show up. That brought the media again. As the saga continued, the cherch shot itself in the foot over and over and gave them a lot of free PR. Any comedy of errors is mostly on the cherch’s part. Stick around, as there undoubtedly will be more where this came from!

    • Susan B.

      It will be OK. : ) Phil and Willie’s intentions are good and that goes a long way. (Unlike the CO$, full of lies and just a front for DM to have power, money, prestige, cushy lifestyle.) I’m guessing that they already have one or two people helping them behind the scene. Too many cooks spoil the broth. And to have a group of people means setting up meetings. Ugh, meetings. Streamlined is better.

    • richelieu jr

      You are singing my song @xenuYESxenu:disqus

      I, for one, am not at al surprised about the press turnout, and especially not for the few hundred bucks that could have secured the website situation? IT is too much for neophytes in the throws of events and emotions to handle on their own (though they seem to be doing a rather brave job of it, considering!).“
      I write all the media outlets where I knew someone and sent a few friends as well.

      And sadly, I had the bittersweet pleasure of having been right about CoS’s reaction and the Billboard companies’ capitulations.

      Surely someone on these boards is a flack ad could spend a few hours taking care of this for them?

      v

    • I think you’re being overly critical and I think that they are doing a fine job. The billboard is up, and most of us Millenials know enough about navigating the intarwebz to be able to get to the right domain.

      • xenuYESxenu

        I am not critical. I am trying to be supportive πŸ˜‰

        • No you’re not being supportive. You tried to use “supportive” as a veil to cover what you were really saying, but it’s transparent. You’re calling their decisions mistakes and begging for someone to help them, the implication being they can’t do things on their own. Also your little quip about how you”would do it, but you’re far away,” (paraphrased) implies that you feel you are more capable than they are. Whether or not you intended it that way, that’s how it comes across. Go ahead and toss around all the smiley faces you want, but that doesn’t make it any better. :/

          • xenuYESxenu

            I am sorry for you, Derek.

            • No need, my parents really are the ones who owe the world an apology for me.

    • aquaclara

      Why so mean? If you want to help, jump in and do something. If not, go follow the rule from all our grand moms. If you can’t say something nice, STFU. I paraphrase a bit…..

  • Lady Squash

    The Church is soooo creepy!!!

  • Obnosis

    So who is watching Hulu’s original show The Path? It’s a drama about a
    cult-ish movement The Path, with The Ladder that everyone must ascend,
    confidential levels (β€œthis is 10R business, you’re an 8R”), helping
    people at disasters, a power-hungry pscyho charismatic leader who
    represents the original founder, Ignorants and Deniers, etc. It’s like
    Scientology with some new age and other stuff thrown in. Any
    ex-Scientologist will get a kick out of it and see it as a parody rather
    than a drama.

  • Pineygrrl

    Vera, will you PLEASE for Gods sake talk to sister Pammy. How many years now? You have become what you despised in our father LOUIS HERMAN BUCKLEY.